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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
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And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the wealthbreak podcast, a real conversation about finance.
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Rodney Williams
Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone.
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Christina
I feel like sometimes being broke is.
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
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Travis Holloway
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
Hi, I'm.
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Joel Palowski
I'm Joel Palowski. I had lung cancer. So last night, Pastor Jonathan came. He's been coming all week. This has just been a very powerful week. But last night was different. I was diagnosed last September. Been dealing with that chemo and all the stuff, stuff that goes along with it. I came Monday, and I didn't want to come. I came Tuesday, and I wanted to be here even less. I came last night and I really did not want to be here. I came here to make my wife happy. That's really the only reason why I came. I was upset and tired and hurt, tired of dealing with this. As Jonathan was talking faith last night, I got up and I had. I don't have the machine with me. I haven't used it since. I got up and I walked up front.
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
Your love.
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Joel Palowski
So yesterday before I came here, I was on 4 liters of air or oxygen a minute. I'm on nothing right now, as you can see. And talking lung cancer is gone. My lungs are stretching and growing and. And changing. And I can feel it happening right now. I'm stronger than I was two hours ago, and I'm stronger than I was yesterday. And I'm going to be stronger tomorrow, and I'm going to continue to get stronger until I am as strong as I've ever been. I have not been able to touch talk like this in a very, very long time. I'm. And I'm talking months, okay? I run out of air. I couldn't stand. I could. I had to sit every time that I did anything with any kind of stress. I mean, walking from one end of my house to another was exhausting. That was two days ago. Right now. I walked in here today just fine.
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
We are raising up a family in this church. We're raising up a family in Pittsburgh. Raising up a family in Texas that don't just know about God. They know God. They've handled his power. They've seen his power flow through them. You're coming out of here today carrying fresh fire, fresh anointing, never to take another backward step. Well, who came ready to receive from the Lord today? I want you. If you have your Bibles, open them to 2nd Chronicles, chapter 26. Then when you get to 2 Chronicles 26, go to 2nd Chronicles 20. On the way in, I just felt like reading this again. Great to have you back, Brother Lowe. Missed you. I looked back and saw RJ on the drums, and I thought you took a zempic, and it went bad. When did. What month did you join me here? April of 2022. August of 2022, when we started the church. So Brother Lowe's been with us since August 2022. And you are a blessing. You're anointed. You know, when you preach, you can feel the spirits of the. That the people have behind you. And some people are annoying. And I like. I like Lowe, and I like Tony. The other guys, I'm still making up my mind about, but Tony and Lowe are great, and I really appreciate you. Second Chronicles, chapter 20. So the country's in major trouble. There's three kings getting ready that had joined forces to attack them. So if you had a. I went to a school Pastor Dean would know was called John Bapst in Maine. It was the number one academic school in Maine, which meant our sports teams were terrible. So this would be like if you were going up against a great sports team and maybe you could beat them, maybe you'd get lucky and beat them. But you're not going up against one, you're going up against three. So it's 11 on 33. And they know they can't beat them. So the king decides to seek the Lord. He calls everybody into assembly to go to the temple, and they fast and pray. And the Bible says, as they're fasting and praying, a man stands up and gives a message of prophecy and tells them that the Lord's going to deliver them. This is 2nd Chronicles 20, verse 13. All the men of Judah stood before the Lord with their little ones, wives, and children. The Spirit of the Lord came upon one of the men standing there. His name was Jahaziel, son of Zechariah, son of Benaiah, and son of Jeel, son of Mattniah, a Levite who was a descendant of Asaph. He said, listen, all you people of Judah and Jerusalem. Listen, King Jehoshaphat. This is what the Lord says. Do not be Afraid. Everybody say, do not be afraid. I want to ask you a question. Since when is the Holy Spirit worried about what the devil's doing? I'm going to tell you something for the rest of your life. I want you to remember it. Anytime you hear somebody preaching about there's things coming that we need to be prepared for, that's a thinly veiled fear. And that's not the Holy Ghost speaking. Go ahead and search through the Bible and tell me where. There's times where long messages were given by the Holy Ghost to tell people to get ready for what the devil's doing. I grew up in Pentecostal Church. I've heard probably a thousand messages in tongues and interpretation of tongues. Never heard one. Get ready. The Antichrist is coming, saith the Lord. But I've heard many. Get ready. Jesus is coming, says the Lord. God's not concerned about what the devil's doing. I mean, Jesus told you there's going to be trouble in the world. I'm not saying there's no place where God's people didn't know what was going to happen. In fact, we're going to read one right here. He says, don't be afraid. I know everything they're about to do. But the battle's not yours, it's the Lord's. Everybody say, the battle's not mine. The battle is the Lord's. You want to have three months of food in your pantry? You can do that if it's not done out of fear. There's nothing wrong with being prepared. And the Bible says God will cause your barns to overflow with grain and your vats to overflow with new wine. You don't have to play from behind. I got food in my refrigerator. We have food in the freezer. A Dallas shot an elk last. What was it, September, October, November. And we still haven't touched the meat because we're not home enough to thaw it out and cook it. I got a freezer full of meat, but I'm not making plans to have a big financial run out. And we'll live on the elk meat. You know, even. Even the stuff they tell you to get prepared for, it doesn't even make any sense. You should have a freezer full of food because the power grid could fail. Well, then so will your freezer and all the meat goes bad. So I want you to understand, when you read the Bible, even in times of national turmoil and calamity, God had a way to provide for all his children and all his people. Can you say Amen. I'm getting irritated that we saw this big victory last year at this time. If you remember, last year at this time, I stayed home for 40 days. The Lord spoke to me. Stay here. I didn't know that one of the opposition political parties would set up one block from where we were at and preach faith and it'll turn the nation in the right direction, which it did. And so we want a victory. The economy is not going in the wrong direction. Picture the economy like a big boat. I'm talking about the national economy. If it's heading in the wrong direction, it takes time to turn the boat around. But the boat is turning around. We had a victory. And I'm listening to a decent amount of full gospel people that should know better, getting people prepared, like we're about to go through year seven of the tribulation. We're not. This is not a time of defeat. This is a time of great victory. Can you say amen? And I'm not saying this off the cuff. Told everybody who could dig the message up after, after the. The new administration came in, I told everybody after giving that word on a new dawn, I then said, what should you do now that it's a new dawn? And gave, I think, 10 things that you should do. I told people what to invest in. If anybody would listen to me, they'd be up 83%, 60%, 120% on what they are right now. How can you have so much fear? See what got me started on this? The Bible says, don't be afraid. Fear is a paralyzer. You have people that are in fear. They say that the fear index is all the way on fear for investors. How? What are they afraid of? The stock market's hit 60, some record highs. There's no collapse in sight whatsoever. Everything's ripping. But if you have fear, you're going to be wearing a Trump 2024 hat, Trump 2028 hat, and you're going to be as broke as you were when Biden was in and, and Obama was in and both Bushes were in. Because it's not the president that does it. There's opportunity and things that are cleared out that give you the chance to do something. This is the time to be making moves, not cowered down in fear. Can you say amen? How many watched any of the nights that I took calls to talk to people? Whoever said that alarm. I'm glad you're awake now. Just hit snooze in case I fall asleep. So how many of you heard she's not watching that one lady that called up. Do you think with everything that's going on in the world, we should begin to develop our own currency? Lady, take a nap. Develop your own currency? You don't even have a job. You're gonna develop a currency that rivals world currencies. If you're not careful, you're gonna get around Christians that are so worried about what the devil's doing. An Antichrist, an Antichrist system. And you see what they're doing in Australia and the UK that's the beginnings of the mark of the beast. I know my dad's been preaching on it since the 1980s, but I'm the happiest preacher that you'll ever listen to because the Bible says, yes, these things must happen. But don't lose heart. Take courage and look up, for your redemption draws nigh. And I want to tell you that in the midst, you're going to see the world start to function on two tracks. You're already starting to see it. Australia, uk, and if you're watching from those countries, we love you. I haven't given up on you. But Australia, uk, France, they're all going in another direction. They're going in that Antichrist direction, but America rejected that direction. I mean, I'm really starting to see now why they shot Trump and thankfully just nicked his ear. Now that you're getting a bunch of people that were trading state secrets all getting ready to go to jail. People that were profiting off of America, America's decline. They knew if Kamala didn't get in, there was. It's not about Kamala. It's about who her cabinet would have been. There's nobody to run cover for him anymore. All their connections are gone. And that miracle happened of an election that was never supposed to go that way. And now you're going to see people in power that made money off of enslaving America and breaking the economy down. There's no reason for anybody to be in section 8 housing in this country. There's people that want people poor because they're easily dominated. But God has turned the ship around, and it's going to continue to turn around. And I want to tell everybody in this place, get ready for the best years that you've ever had. Your best days are not behind you. We're not getting ready to come into some kind of terrible time. This is the hour of God's favor. This is the day that the Lord has made. I will rejoice and be glad in it. Everybody say, do not Be afraid. So the word of the Lord, anytime somebody gives you a word that's supposedly from the Lord and it instills fear, you know, and they'll never come out and say, you know, no preacher's gonna come out and say like, be afraid, you know, that the food supply, if there was some kind of shutdown, Walmart would be out of food within a shut up. It's not gonna happen. So what if Walmart was out of food? You know, you got these things, when you drive home, you're gonna see about 50 or 60 of them. But they're called deer. And those deer aren't just animals. They have meat on the inside. When you shoot them, you can cut them up. Now if you got a normal sized deer, somebody, I'm sure somebody. Has anybody been deer hunting here in Pennsylvania? If you get a normal sized buck, I don't want to see a buck because you don't see them much. It's always the women and kids. I've been noticing that deer aren't good parents because who takes their kids out to eat at 11.30pm? Adalus Mugalus and white tailed deer, that's who. So if you get like a normal sized doe, not a record doe, not even a dough to brag about? How much meat are you going to get off that dough? How many pounds? About 50 pounds. 50 to 70 pounds from what we're hearing from the crowd. And so that's one doe. How many of you have passed at least 10 doe in the last five weeks. Okay, so you get out and you pop a couple of them and load them in your Subaru Outback with your coexist bumper sticker and carve that thing up and you have meat. You know all those bodies of water that you drive by, there's things that live in them called fish. Can you say amen? So how do you get anybody with a brain worried about food? Yeah, but you're not allowed to hunt. They sell these things called suppressors. Can you say amen? No. I'm not teaching you to commit crimes. But I am saying you don't have to let your family starve to death. No, you're good. So everybody say, I'll always have enough. Why would any preacher try to get God's children in fear? They're going to do away with the dollar. I've been hearing that. Now think of this. Imagine being a preacher in your 60s that's been putting fear in people for 40 years. The dollar's going to collapse. Well, it hasn't for 40 years that you've been ministering. And even if it does now, you got about nine good summers left to say I was right. And you wasted half a century in fear. How many of you have known people that have been in fear about America's collapse, the dollar collapse, economy collapse for the last 20 years? Let me see now. As soon as somebody gets in that mindset, they don't prosper anymore. If you would turn the air conditioning up slightly. They don't. They don't prosper anymore. When I say slightly, I mean blasted. I want to see people shivering. I want to hear teeth chattering. And it have nothing to do with spiritual manifestations, just air conditioning.
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Christina
Hi, my name is Christina. I've been coming for a while now, and actually today I wasn't going to come because I was really tired. And it was real unusual. I even felt like it was depression. Yeah, I feel like depression was creeping up on me. Anyways, I came here and the, the. Even the worship was. I could feel like the. A shifting in the way I felt. Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth and Pastor Kofi both hit about depression and they, they said about the joy of the Lord and how it's our strength. And when Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth prayed for me, I felt like a weight lifted off me. And I feel liberated.
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
That scripture came to me while we were singing your sins. Jesus said, though they were many have been wiped out. And now God's going to put his spirit on the inside. You're going to be used mightily. I feel like when you first started coming, the devil tried to lie to you. Like this is other people's thing. Who do you think you are sitting here? You think you're gonna make it, But God has proved his word true. You're doing great. You're going from victory to victory, and it's never gonna slow down. In Jesus name, in Jesus name.
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Christina
I just encourage anyone who's battling depression, heaviness, any of that to come, to come join a service, and I guarantee you will not leave the same. I feel filled with joy. I know it's all God.
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
As soon as you get in a mindset of fear, you stop prospering. One of the reasons this church has grown exponentially is I rejected all fear based on church, they used to call it when I was starting in the ministry, they called America a post Christian society. You never heard it come out of my mouth one time. Americans don't go to church. Americans don't read their Bible. You never heard. In fact, the whole reason I named my ministry Revival today Was like to that kind of speech that. I'm not talking like that. You're talking that the church is dying. I'm saying we're going to have a revival. Why? Because the Bible says that the last chapter of the church's history will not be written by the devil. I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. In the last days, saith God, I will pour out my spirit on all flesh. And so as soon as you get any pastor I know that started talking like that, even a little bit, everything went down. Anybody that talks like that about money, everything goes down. If the devil can get you in fear, worry and fear run counter to faith. Faith has a positive expectation. Faith believes that God has a plan for your life that gives you hope and a glorious future. Can you say Amen 2020, when the lockdown hit, you know, that was a time none of us in America had ever been through. Because I think about anybody from the Great Depression would have been gone. They'd have been, what? No, there'd be a few left. Not in your 90s. But nobody in America had ever been through something where they told you all business and economy was going to be shut down. They were saying that that virus would have a 4% kill rate. Ended up at like 0.2. I could pull the clips up. People who were medical professionals, everybody forgets this now. They said every hospital in March, they said every hospital in the United States will be full by the month of May. And people would be forced to administer palliative care to their loved ones at home. There wouldn't be enough room in the hospital. So you talk about fear. You couldn't sow more fear into society than that. Most of the preachers were afraid, shut their church down. I'm not dying. I remember one preacher I knew invited full gospel minister to come and preach, and he said, I'm not getting on a plane during this thing. I'm not risking my life to come and preach. People were in straight up fear. And I was hearing all that and it ran exactly opposite to what I preach. So I had a decision to make. Am I going to? Am I going to. Is this going to be a message I preach to people but don't actually believe? Or am I going to put my feet in it and actually do what the Bible says? Well, I thought, if I'm going down, I'm going down with the word of God. Can you say amen? But you're going to find out you can't. The word of God can never be shaken, it can never be destroyed, and it can never go under. And so it kind of was playing tricks with my mind because Adalus and I met these people in Scranton, Pennsylvania. No, it was here. They're from northeast Pennsylvania. We met them. And they own a firearms company, a firearms manufacturing company. So after they met Adalus, they liked her, and they liked that she liked guns. They sent her a Trump. 45. 45 that said Trump on it, 45 engraved. And then they sent her five AR15s. She got those on February 20, February 25, something like that. And then the lockdown hit March 10, March 13, whenever it was. So I started thinking, like, was the Lord getting me ready for the apocalypse? Maybe God sent me the guns ahead of time. And then we had a freezer full of food. She had just got one of her first kills hunting, so we had a freezer full of food. And I was thinking, like, wait a minute, maybe the opposite of everything I preach is about to happen. And I was hearing preachers say, you know, how many of you have ever heard preachers say stuff like, you should have a supply of food, and you should have plenty of firearms and ammunition, because if the food supply fails, you'll have food, and then you'll be able to defend your food supply? Well, I had heard people say that. And as I started thinking about how they shipped adoles, those guns, and then we had that food. So maybe we're. I thought, wait a minute. I have a funny feeling my God's plan for my life in the last days isn't to eat food out of my freezer, have a ride of hot a rite of potatoes and Hot Pockets and whatever else. And then if my neighbors run out of food, shoot them. I told you, the lady that was living across the street from me at the time, her name was ethel, she was 85 years old. I'm gonna kill her. I'm out of food. Do you know where any food is? Straight back the way you came, ma'. Am. I can't picture Jesus doing that. I don't see Jesus when a little boy gave him five loaves of bread and two fish, telling peter and them, you guys have swords? Good. Let's enjoy these five loaves and two fish. And if any of these 15,000 people that came to hear me preach, try to get any, cut them to pieces like a samurai warrior. No, see, I'm working that in in case we go on TV in Japan so that the analogies resonate. No. So notice, anytime you get in a mentality to defend what you have. That's not how faith works. Think of this, even the gospel. The gospel doesn't work in defense mode. We need to stand up for our rights as Christians. We need to defend our faith. It doesn't work like that. How it works is going into stadiums and advancing the gospel by preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to every man, every woman. And then by attacking, you're already defending. The best defense is a what? Good offense. You always get nervous. If the Steelers get a lead and they sit back and start running the ball and quit throwing more than five yards, you think, oh, great, this is how we lose. It's the same in Christianity. The moment you start trying to conserve your lead and remain a Christian nation, then you've already lost. You follow God's directive, go ye into all the world and preach the gospel, baptizing them and making disciples of nations. The way forward in the kingdom is advancement, offense, all gas and no brakes. And you're a part of a church today at 8am where all gas and no brakes. And God's going to accelerate you more at the close of this year than at any point in your life. In Jesus name, if you receive that, go ahead and do what you're already doing. Give the Lord a great hand clap and a mighty shout. Hallelujah. Listen, all you people of Judah and Jerusalem. Listen, King Jehoshaphat. This is what the Lord says. Do not be afraid. Everybody say, I won't be afraid. Don't be discouraged by this mighty army. Let me tell you, could the dollar collapse at some point? At some point it will collapse. Because the Bible doesn't say in the Tribulation no man will be able to buy or sell unless they have US Dollars. It says, no man will be able to buy or sell unless they're given a mark in their hand or in their forehead. So the Bible already talked about digital currency that was biometric or implanted in the body in 92 AD. So these things must. Everybody say, these things must happen. Jesus talked about wars, rumors of wars, tidal waves. Men's hearts will be perplexed because of the strange tides and roaring seas. Sexual immorality, as it was in the days of Lot. So it'll be in the days when the Son of Man returns, as it was in the days of Noah. What was it like in Noah's day, men's hearts were desperately wicked and all they ever thought about was violence. That's why I get. I don't understand when I hear preachers say stuff like, I can't believe how much violence is going on. Would you buy a Bible that Was missing Matthew 24? The Bible told you in the world things aren't going to get better. They're going to get worse. They're going to get worse on a violent standpoint. They're going to get worse on every standpoint in the world. It's going to decay. But I want you to say something. I live in this world, but I'm not of this world. I live in America, but I'm not of America. I am a child of the most high God and my friend. That's what the Bible is trying to get over to you, that our economy is not based in America. Our economy has the open windows of heaven. See if I won't open the windows of heaven and pour you out a blessing that's so great you won't have room enough to take it all in. Try it. Let me prove it to you. Your crops will be abundant, for I will rebuke the devourer for your sake. And it keeps going. You live in this world, but you're not of this world. Let me tell you something. If the divorce rate goes to 89% where my sister pastors in Montreal, the divorce rate's so high they won't let the lady take the man's last name anymore to save the time of going back to court, to get it unchanged, to unclog the courts. I don't care if the divorce rate goes to 93%. I don't care if every kid's on drugs. Those things are not going to come in my house and they're not going to come in your house because your house is covered by the blood of Jesus. There has to be a mentality in the end time believer that the blood of Jesus has been applied to me. I'm in covenant with God. What happens to others doesn't happen to me because my life is not governed by crisis. My life is governed by Christ. Can you say amen? Say I don't have crisis, I have Christ. Somebody tell me all these fear mongering preachers. Tell me which one of these promises don't work in the last days. Tell me which one of these of these promises won't work this last hour of time. Tell me God's up in heaven, watching CNBC, hoping the economy's good, wishing he did it right. 2nd Corinthians 8, 2nd Corinthians 9, 2nd Chronicles 20. You know what the word of the Lord was? He said, I know they're coming. God told them what hill? They're coming up. I know what the enemy's doing. Relax. That's why I was telling them, don't fear. You think I'm worried about the devil? I'm going to tell you something. Your Christianity should not revolve around what the devil's doing either. Nationally. Family to you. I need prayer. Yeah, I know you do. But quit having your life revolve around the thing you need prayer for. My son's not serving the Lord. Commit it to God in prayer. And then the Bible says, don't worry about anything. Let me see the scripture. Don't worry about anything. But in everything, in prayer and supplication, make your requests. Be known unto God with Thanksgiving. Who said, amen, brother. Hey, thanks. I like guys like you when I preach Philippians 4. 6. Don't worry about anything. Don't worry about what? What falls under the guise of anything. Then why are so many Christians literally worried about everything? We were supposed to be in a recession, remember? They guaranteed it when the tariffs hit. These Trump tariffs are going to plunge America into the worst economy it's ever known. Well, it's almost November, so your prediction has about 60 days to come true. And it's not coming true. Can you say amen? I mean, you tell that kid things are going to get better. The economy is going to go in the right direction. You're going to have plenty of ring pops and popsicles. Don't worry about anything. So how come Christians seem to be worried about everything? You know what anything means? It means even things that are logical to be worried about. You're not wrong if your son's on heroin to be concerned about his life and safety. But there's a difference between being concerned and being worried. And I'm going to tell you. And then I'll also say, don't be concerned about anything.
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Christina
I feel like sometimes being broke is.
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Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth
A cycle and that we might have.
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Travis Holloway
To revisit that and we're not stopping at success stories.
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