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Testimony Speaker
I got healed yesterday by Jesus, of course, but through Mr. Shuttlesworth. He prayed for cataracts. He just all of a sudden spoke it out. And I've been believing for a cataract removal for a while and praying about it and stuff. And yesterday when he called that out, I just put my hands on my eyes and we went out for lunch afterwards. And all of a sudden I said to my wife, I said, I can see perfectly clear.
Jonathan
Like, it's amazing.
Testimony Speaker
This morning I brought my glasses. I put my glasses on to come here. I didn't recognize my wife in the lineup because I couldn't. Everything was blurry. I took them off, put in my pocket. I brought them back to my truck. Hallelujah.
Jonathan
We are raising up a family in this church. We're raising up a family in Pittsburgh. We're raising up a family in Tex.
Co-Preacher/Minister
That don't just know about God, they know God. They've handled his power. They've seen his power flow through them. You're coming out of here today carrying fresh fire, fresh anointing, never to take another backward step.
Jonathan
Now, who does the Bible say is the accuser of the brethren? Who? Who's the accuser of the brethren? Satan's the accuser of the brethren. So anytime you get thoughts that are beating you up, it's not God. Even if God had a corrective word, the Bible says prophecies for exhortation, edification, and comfort. So even if God, like I've had people correct me that are above me in the ministry and when they. If it's somebody doing it by The Holy Ghost. It'll go like this. You're doing this. Don't do that. Do this instead and God will bless it. It never leaves you in a state of feeling condemned. Can you say amen? So I said, camila, I said. I said, what are the other thoughts you've had? Well, they were all minor like that, you know. I said, well, number one, do you understand that it's not a sin to have a wrong thought? And I told her, well, I'm going to tell you, because I. When she said what she was battling, I was thinking, how many people battle the same thing as adults because nobody instructed them out of the Bible. If it's wrong to have a wrong thought, everybody's going to hell. Because I told her, I said, you know me as your dad. You said those bad thoughts. I said, I have bad thoughts every day. I had somebody driving in front of me on the way to church, going about 16 miles an hour. I contemplated murder, but I didn't do it. Bible says, be angry, but sin not. It's not wrong. So I told her, I said, the Bible says that Satan came to Jesus and said, bow down to me and worship me, and if you do, I'll deliver unto you the wealth and kingdoms of this world, for they've been delivered unto me to give to whomever I choose.
Co-Preacher/Minister
And.
Jonathan
And Jesus responded out of the Bible. Now to respond, what did he have to do? He had to. He had to contemplate the thought that Satan put in his head. Bow down to me now. I said, what would have happened if Jesus ran to the disciples and said, pray for me. I just had the most demonic thought that I was tempted to. It's not a sin. It's not a sin because your flesh is going to kick up suggestions like running the person off the road in front of you so you can get to church or whatever your flesh. The Bible says the flesh wars against the spirit and the flesh profiteth nothing. It'll give you ideas that are contrary to the peace and satisfaction of the spirit. Can you say Amen? So then, what does the Bible say to do with those thoughts? The whole of successful Christianity is learning to take captive thoughts that are against the Bible. You learn what's scriptural? What does God say about me? What does God say about my future? What does God say about my health? What does God say about how long I'm going to live? Do you know. Do you know how God says how long you're going to live? Does it say, like I was taught in church, we could all die at any time. How many know we could all die tomorrow. There's churches all over America that today they're going to hear that you could die tomorrow. I'm not dying tomorrow or today. I'm going to live a long, full life, just like the Bible says. And I'm going to be blessed and I'm going to fulfill everything God called for me to do. Can you say amen now? Where is it rooted? So then I started to teach my daughter in the pool. What I'm going to teach you out of the pool, which is the crux of Christianity is this. Everybody say, joined with Christ. Now who is Christ that you're joined with? Go to Revelation, chapter 1, Revelation 1, verse 9. John said, I, John, am your brother and your partner in suffering and in God's kingdom and in the patient endurance to which Christ Jesus calls us. I was exiled to the island of Patmos for preaching the word of God and for my testimony about Jesus. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day. And suddenly I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet blast. It said, write in a book everything you see and send it to the seven churches and it lists the seven cities for the sake of time. When I turned to see who was speaking to me, I saw seven gold lampstands. And standing in the middle of the lampstands was somebody like the Son of man. Now, how does Jesus look? Because you have to see Jesus out of the Bible. You can't have, you know, a religious. I haven't seen the Chosen series. I'm not against it or for it. I haven't seen it is all I'm saying. But if it's shaped by TV or, or a CBS miniseries of Jesus, that he has a British accent, which is fine, but he didn't. He didn't have an American one either. He spoke Greek at the time because they were Roman occupied and he knew Hebrew. So if you're. How do you see Jesus when people say we're supposed to be like Jesus, what do you see Jesus as? Do you see him as a slumped over, sad weeping over the state of Pittsburgh? How many know God's weeping Jesus? When he sees what's happening in our country, he weeps. No, actually, not only is he not crying, they don't allow any tears up there from anybody, period. Can you say Amen? Do you see a defeated Jesus? Do you see a depressed Jesus? Do you see a broke Jesus? Do you see a Jesus that masks up and gets vaccinated? I mean, think of people said that if Jesus was alive, I believe he would take the vaccine. Well, I would lay off the crack. Amen. No, you know, if you see Jesus as subject to sickness and subject to depression and very sad, then it's going to affect what you think a Christian is. Because a Christian is based on being like Christ.
Co-Preacher/Minister
So I want to show you from.
Jonathan
The Bible not only who Jesus was, but, you know, one of the ways you knew people were messed up during COVID was if they said, a pastor I'm talking about, I believe if Jesus was alive today, he would do this. It's like you believe if Jesus was alive today, you know he is alive. I didn't straighten that girl's legs out. Jesus straightened her legs out. I didn't heal that girl's neck. Jesus healed that girl's neck.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Jesus is alive and he lives forevermore.
Jonathan
And I want to tell you, he's.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Not defeated, he's not broke, he's not under oppression. He is victorious. King of kings, Lord of lords, and he reigns forever.
Jonathan
Can you say Amen? I want to show you what he looks like from the Bible because John tells you. When I turned to see who was speaking to me, I saw the Son of Man. He was wearing a long robe with a gold sash across his chest. His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow. And his eyes were like flames of fire. His feet were like bronze refined in a furnace. And his voice thundered like mighty ocean waves. He held seven stars in his right hand. And a sharp two edged sword came from his mouth. And his face was like the sun in all its brilliance. When I saw him, I fell at his feet as if I were dead. But he laid his right hand on me and said, don't be afraid. Everybody shout, don't be afraid. I am the first and the last. I am the living one. I died, but look, I live forevermore. And I hold the keys of death, hell and the grave. Can you say Amen? So how does Jesus look? He. He looks in such a way. I'll tell you how he looks. Go to 2nd Thessalonians 5:8. 2nd Thessalonians 5 8. Sorry, 2nd Thessalonians 2:8. So this is talking about the Antichrist at the end of the tribulation. How's the Antichrist going to die then? Shout that wicked be revealed. Whom? The Lord. How's Jesus gonna. What's he gonna do to the Antichrist? Fight him? Arm wrestle him? No, he'll consume him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him with the splendor of his coming. So you see this vision? Not vision, you know, Jesus came and showed himself to John. John said, when I saw him, I felt like I was dead at his feet. And that's why when people have a problem with people falling under the power, and I'm not, I don't even know that I'm going to lay hands on anybody today. But when people fall out under the power, what is. I don't believe in that. You don't know Jesus. You think if you meet Jesus you're going to shake his hand? Nice to meet you. John knew him. John was the disciple that he loved most. And he said when I saw him, I felt like one that was dead at his feet. I'm telling you right now, the reason most Christians live a defeated life is they see a religious emaciated. You know, there's churches, Protestant and Catholic. Where do they have Jesus on the platform? Where is he? If I was the devil, that's how I'd want you to see Jesus too. That was a. That was the only defeat he took. But he did it on purpose.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Satan didn't usurp him. He came to die my death so.
Jonathan
That I can live his life.
Co-Preacher/Minister
I was buried with him, that I.
Jonathan
Might be raised with him and live a new life.
Co-Preacher/Minister
But he's not on the cross anymore and he's not in the tomb. He's alive. And he came back to say, I'm alive and I live forevermore.
Jonathan
And I have the keys of death.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Hell and the grave. If you're thankful for it, go ahead and do what you're already doing. Give Jesus a mighty hand clap and a great shout.
Jonathan
He'll destroy him by the breath of his mouth and the splendor of his coming. And then that even gives you. Which I'm not going to get into today. But the Bible says all scripture is God breathed. So when you speak God's word, you're loosing the same thing that Jesus is going to use to destroy the Antichrist. That's why demons can't stay in a service where the word of God's being preached under the anointing. Because it's God's breath being breathed out of your lungs when you preach the word of God. If you want to know the truth about the matter. God's word spoken out of your mouth is as powerful as God's word spoken out of his mouth. Because it's God's word. Can you say Amen? And that word's in you. That's why the Bible says One of the weapons you've been given is the two edged sword of the Spirit. Somebody wrote on Twitter this week, they said, what's the most powerful thing that God has given us to withstand the devil? And I wrote back the scripture because Jesus only spoke three of them and it sent the devil himself on the run. That two edged sword is in your mouth. You've been made like Christ. Galatians 2:20. Galatians 2:20. I'm crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live yet not I, but Christ lives in me. And the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Let me see, new living translation just out of curiosity. Galatians 2:20. My old self has been crucified with Christ. Now how many times does Paul have to tell you to reckon yourself or consider yourself dead to sin? If you read all these verses and you still going around, going around calling yourself a recovering addict, recovering alcoholic, then that's your problem. Because you've heard the Word and you've still decided to in your mind that you're dragging the sinner forward. Almost like Jesus gave you a shower. You're still the sinner, but he cleaned you up and gave you a little power to make it to heaven. The Bible doesn't say that the sinner is dead and now you've become a new creature.
Co-Preacher/Minister
If any man be in Christ, he is a the old life is put to death.
Jonathan
Behold, all things become new. I've told this story a lot. I'm going to keep telling it, you know, to know that my aunt Linda could vouch I had braces on my legs. I used to kick her son with these special shoes I had. He'd pick on me, but I had these metal shoes that they gave me to straighten out my legs. And he would say, he would say, if we wrestle, you can't kick because I had these shoes that were like steel plated on the bottom and they tried a bunch of non surgical procedures to straighten my legs out.
Co-Preacher/Minister
None of them worked.
Jonathan
And I had a severe speech impediment. You know, I never got healed in somebody's meeting. All that happened is that old song we'd sing in church. Jesus on the inside, working on the outside. Oh, what a change in my life.
Co-Preacher/Minister
That's another tell you too, if the.
Jonathan
Devil has his way, he'll get you focused on how far you have to go. Oh yeah, you've made a little progress. But I mean, think of that lady I prayed For New Mexico, when I left their kids legs was just as deformed as when I started praying. But at some point in that year.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Those legs became strong and walked.
Jonathan
Because if you stay with the power of Jesus Christ, it'll start to overwhelm.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Everything that's contrary to the word of God. Life.
Jonathan
The Bible says the kingdom of God.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Is built on increase. First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn on the ear.
Jonathan
You know, watch, watch me in Adoles. We didn't have a house when we started this church three and a half years ago. We also didn't have a plane we chartered. But look what's happening now. This building full. Now another property for the Bible school.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Now a third property for the church. Now Texas, now Arizona, now la, now three churches. Because everything with God grows. So the devil knows that. So he tries to get you to quit, tries to get you to say, well if it would have worked, it'll work by now. But I'm telling you, if you'll stick with it, God will overwhelm and it'll keep growing and it'll cause your cup to overflow. You will have the best five months that you've ever had.
Justin
My name is Justin and about 12, 13 years ago my mom's then boyfriend decided he was going to take me out, teach me how to shoot and made me take off my hearing protection. And you know it. All in all, I will admit it was a little bit fun until the tannerite came out and I wasn't allowed to put the earmuffs back on.
Jonathan
But.
Justin
Since then my ears have been almost constantly ringing.
Co-Preacher/Minister
And.
Justin
Tonight, starting in praise and worship, it started getting softer and softer and more bearable. And then as Jonathan preached, it got even quieter to the point where I. It was almost like it was completely gone. And finally when we're all lined up and getting prayed over, the second his hand touched the top of my head, it was gone. I could finally hear normal again. And it I'm thankful I'm not going to have to deal with this pain anymore. Thank you Jonathan. And thank you God.
Jonathan
And you know why you're going to have the best five months you ever had? Because it's scriptural. If you stay with the Bible, it.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Is not a life of defeat, it's.
Jonathan
A life of victory. For this is the victory that overcomes the world, even our faith. Can you say amen first John 4:17 KJV, please. Herein is our love made perfect. See, I even like scriptures like that. How many know none of us are perfect? I Don't think you read the New Testament a lot. See, it's getting quiet. Put Hebrews 1014 in the King James and then put Hebrews 1014 in the NLT. How many know nobody's perfect. How many know we all sin? How many know we all miss it every day? You keep talking like that, you're gonna end up in hell. That's a stupid message to tell people because the Bible. Paul was not writing these churches saying, hey, don't get on your high horse. Remember, you're just a sinner saved by grace. He was telling them the exact opposite. Hebrews 10:14. For by one offering he hath perfected, not will perfect. See, if anybody ever does get across into the. Into the. Into this reality, it's. It'll happen in heaven. How many know in heaven will be made perfect? That's not what it says there. It says, he hath perfected forever those that are sanctified now. Nlt. For by that one offering he has forever made perfect. Made. Has made. Future tense, present tense or past tense. Past has made perfect those who are being made holy. But King James also puts holiness in the past tense. And then there's a litany, other scriptures that ascribe holiness to the believer. This is what I was telling my daughter in the pool. I was trying to get to her anything that can. This is going to sound strong, but you're the 8am crowd, so I'm giving you strong medicine. I'm not giving you children's Tylenol. I'm giving you Tylenol 3 with codeine. Amen. People get drug jokes here. I said to her, anything that can't happen to Christ can't happen to you. Now, that has to be enforced because the Bible says you play an active part in that whatever you bind on earth is what. And whatever you loose or permit on earth is loose or permitted heaven. So why is God allowing this? Why are you allowing it? God said, whatever you take authority over, I'll back you from heaven. And whatever you permit, I'll allow it to be permitted. So then think of that. If that's true, and it is, if I was the devil, I'd get you into some kind of like. Like. Like weak acceptance of sin, sickness of, you know, I'd have you start just thinking, you know, I'm like me. Well, I'm going to turn 45 this year. Obviously, I can't keep this pace up. Your body's not the Same in your 40s as it was now. Let me tell you something. This isn't bragging, but I'm telling you, I'm stronger at 44 than I was in my 30s or my 20s, preaching and then taking these six days off. I felt like I could blow the doors off the back of that church yesterday with my voice. Because the Bible says, as your days are, so shall your strength be. So you're the one that's going to have to make up your mind whether you're going to believe all the commercials on TV that are sponsored by the pharmaceutical companies telling you, getting you thinking about cancer and prostate cancer and blindness.
Co-Preacher/Minister
And early death so they can sell life insurance and pills, or if you're.
Jonathan
Going to believe what God said, knowing.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Ahead of time, I'm telling you ahead.
Jonathan
Of time that those promises fly in.
Co-Preacher/Minister
The face of everything you're going to.
Jonathan
Hear out in the world. But you have to make up your mind.
Co-Preacher/Minister
I walk by faith and not by sight.
Jonathan
Interesting. Interesting that that mom with the kush, just smoke it shirt could receive a miracle for her kid. And I guarantee you it would be 10 times harder if she was a church lady. Because they teach against miracles.
Co-Preacher/Minister
They make fun of faith.
Jonathan
Oh, you're one of those faith preachers. You're one of those prosperity preachers. That's how Jesse Duplantis ended up with a jet is from not growing up in church. He didn't know you weren't supposed to be able to prosper. Nobody told him you can't be healed or have miracles. I'm telling you today, there is power.
Co-Preacher/Minister
In that Bible to change you from.
Jonathan
Whatever background you came from.
Co-Preacher/Minister
I don't care if you came from a bunch of hillbillies or ghetto crime. I don't care. There's nothing that you came from that won't be overwhelmed by the power of God. You know why? Because greater is he who lives in you. Hallelujah.
Jonathan
And I don't have it as a point in the sermon, but I should have made it a number eight. Point is that you know what else is? Being like Christ. Christ affected everywhere he went. People followed him for three days at a time to go hear him out in the wilderness. When you get full of Christ, full of the Holy Ghost like he instructed, you start to change where you're at. You know, even what we're dealing with here in Pittsburgh. That is a spiritual overthrow of invisible powers in this city. Can you say Amen? That's why you don't ever hear me. I don't know one person's name on the city council. I don't know one person's name on the message board. We don't battle against flesh and blood. We battle against spiritual rulers in the heavenly realms. And those spiritual rulers plugged up a move of God that Kathryn Kuhlman brought to this place.
Co-Preacher/Minister
But it's getting unstopped right now by the power of God. And the devil knows this thing's about to explode. The day will come at revival today Church Pittsburgh, where we have a thousand new people receive Jesus Christ on one Sunday. The devil knows it, but he can't stop it because he's not in charge.
Jonathan
The church is in charge. Can you say amen? First John 4:17, King James, we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because now I'm going to have you that third line. I'm going to have you all read it on the count of three, and I'm going to have you read it three times because I want you to get this scripture in your bones. 1, 2, 3, go. Second time. By the way, who's the he they're talking about? As Jesus is now, it says he was with his ribcage showing on the cross, it says, as he is. And I just read to you how he is now. So whatever you thought that I'm cocky or whatever, this will start to give you an idea why I walk like I walk and talk like I talk because I believe that scripture. If that scripture is false, then why believe John 3:16? If he lied on one or overstated anything on one, then why believe any of it? But he never lied. All of God's word is true. And the Bible says, as he is. Eyes flame of fire, hair white like wool, feet like bronze, refined in the furnace. Voice like the sound of many waters. As he is, so am I in this world. So I told my daughter that scripture in the pool. And I said, can you picture Jesus needing prayer for bad thoughts? I said, I'm happy to pray for you, but I'm just telling you, you're made in the image of Christ. You know, isn't it interesting that before they lost control of the public school system, they had to start teaching kids that they came from animals and lower life forms? What do they begin to behave like? Yeah, what you think you come from determines how you behave. But if you what now? How about the 1950s when they had kids bring loaded rifles to school for rifle club and nobody was ever shot in the entire nation because they were.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Teaching people that they were made in.
Jonathan
The image of God, that God created them. God created you in his image and in his likeness. He Created you.
Co-Preacher/Minister
And so people behaved like God. That's why the devil hates the preaching of the word of God. Because it puts the thought in your head and it's the correct thought. I came. I was created in God's image and in God's likeness. And as Jesus is, so am I.
Jonathan
In this world as he is. Not as he was. He is right now. And how is he right now? Pretty powerful. That if he shows up to say hi, people die. Hi, John. Boom. Oh, sorry.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Power.
Jonathan
Everybody say power. Yeah, but I don't feel like it. Let me tell you something. When that lady brought her kid with the deformed legs for me to pray for, I didn't feel like, hey, why don't you call Benny Hinn? I'm more of a sore backs, bad dreams kind of guy. That kid's legs are curled under and has to walk on its knees. I've never even seen that before. But you know what? You don't go by what you see and you don't go by how you feel. You go by what the Bible says. So I did what the Bible says. They'll lay their hands on the sick and the sick shall recover.
Co-Preacher/Minister
And I said, father, just like you.
Jonathan
Straighten my legs out. Thank you for straightening this baby's legs out.
Co-Preacher/Minister
In Jesus name. Amen.
Jonathan
Kid looked the same.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Not my problem. You don't go by what you see. You go by what the Bible says.
Jonathan
I said, thank God for it on the way home. And then in a random grocery store.
Co-Preacher/Minister
There'S a testimony in that aisle that will go there this week. And that testimony will spread through that city. Because all God needs is somebody crazy enough to believe the word the way it's to supposed written. Don't alter it to fit your mind. Don't alter it to fit what American religion is comfortable with. Read it, believe it, speak it and have it Read it, believe it, speak it and have it Read it, believe it, speak it and have it.
Jonathan
Say it one more time. One more time.
Co-Preacher/Minister
See, that's why you can't get me.
Jonathan
To lift my hand. How many of you are battling depression? I refuse to battle it. I can't picture Jesus on a psycho medication. Psycho, whatever they call it. Antidepressants, serotonin regulators. I can't picture it. I can't picture Jesus saying, I wanted to go to Capernaum, but they weren't able to fill my prescription today. And so we're gonna have to postpone.
Co-Preacher/Minister
Can you picture that as he is.
Jonathan
So are you in this world?
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Podcast: Real America’s Voice | Host: Jonathan Shuttlesworth
Date: September 7, 2025
This episode of Revival Today centers on living a victorious Christian life rooted in faith, spiritual identity, and the tangible power of God. Jonathan Shuttlesworth, joined by a co-minister and several testimonies from his congregation, discusses how believers can overcome thoughts of defeat, experience transformation, and walk in the authority and likeness of Christ. The conversation is practical, lively, and often laced with humor, but always returns to biblical principles and the lived reality of miracles.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 03:27 | Jonathan | “If it's wrong to have a wrong thought, everybody’s going to hell...I have bad thoughts every day. I had somebody driving in front of me...I contemplated murder, but I didn’t do it. Bible says, be angry, but sin not. It’s not wrong.” | | 01:21 | Testimony Speaker | “...He prayed for cataracts...when he called that out, I just put my hands on my eyes...I can see perfectly clear.” | | 16:53 | Justin | “Tonight...the second his hand touched the top of my head, it was gone. I could finally hear normal again.” | | 05:47 | Jonathan | “Everybody say, joined with Christ… Now who is Christ that you’re joined with? Go to Revelation, chapter 1...” | | 07:10 | Jonathan | “Do you see a defeated Jesus? ...If you see Jesus as subject to sickness...that’s going to affect what you think a Christian is.” | | 24:13 | Jonathan | “As he is, so am I in this world.” | | 21:53 | Jonathan | “Interesting that that mom with the ‘kush, just smoke it’ shirt could receive a miracle for her kid...Because they teach against miracles. They make fun of faith...I'm telling you today, there is power in that Bible to change you from whatever background you came from.” | | 27:49 | Co-Minister | “Read it, believe it, speak it and have it.” | | 28:31 | Jonathan | “See, that’s why you can’t get me to lift my hand. How many of you are battling depression? I refuse to battle it. I can’t picture Jesus on a psycho medication...” |
Jonathan’s delivery is direct, humorous, and often irreverent—he pokes fun at mainstream and religious narratives alike but is ultimately pastoral, urging listeners towards boldness and personal faith. Spiritual triumph, miraculous testimonies, and practical teaching blend in a way that’s meant to both inspire and challenge.
This episode is especially powerful for those questioning their spiritual identity, wrestling with defeatist outlooks, or needing encouragement to stand firm amidst adversity. It’s filled with lived examples, scriptural grounding, and unapologetic calls to a faith that expects transformation and victory, not just survival.