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From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast the News Agents Dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs and the newsagents USA listening to the newsagents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. Jeff Crewair analyzes and debates the critical issues facing our nation in Ringside Politics Jump in the ring with Jeff Crewair as he squares off against the liberal media in Ringside Politics his blow by blow analysis will keep you up to speed with what's happening in our nation and around the world. This is politics with a punch. Ringside Politics with Jeff Crewer starts now. Good day, everyone. Jeff Carrera here. It's Ringside Politics on Real America's Voice. What a show we got for you today. Awesome guests, interesting clips, lots of topics. So let's get started. Want to welcome our friends from Pluto TV, channel 240, Dish Network, channel 219, the Roku channel, all the platforms associated the Real America's voice app, AmericasVoice News, Samsung TV plus, channel 1175, select TV channel 106. Our friends on Amazon, Fire TV, Apple TV and online on Getter and True Social. Welcome aboard. You know, folks, when the election was stolen in 2020, we got busy here on Ringside, started our own plan, got people all over the country involved. It's called Project Keep the Republic. We're rolling with it still, folks. And why? Because it was inspired by the end of the Constitutional Convention. When Benjamin Franklin was asked, what kind of government have you given us? He replied, madam, a republic if you can keep it. Now, what does it take to keep a republic? Real, tangible action. Adopting the warrior ethos, placing the mission first, never accepting defeat. And we're never quitting. Organizing groups across the country based on the days of the week. 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This week it's the radio station I broadcast from where I serve as president and general manager. By the way, it's WGSO New Orleans, the voice of the Gulf South. Uh, you can check us out at 9:90am in region or wgso.com worldwide. I'm on during the week, 7 to 9 in the morning, 6 to 7 in the evening. We have a lot of our friends on there. So check us out and support a station all about free speech, which is what we are. Our main competitor in New Orleans is owned by George Soros. So that's what the battle is all about. Free speech versus those that want to take away our free speech rights. You know, folks the economy is still got a lot of work to do. President Trump's made great progress, but work is still needed. So the strategy remains the same. What is the strategy? Diversify. That's why I recommend to friends, Birch Gold, we've got a lot of things out of our control, a lot of our things out of our President's control. We need that safe haven for our savings. That's why Birch Gold, I recommend you can convert an IRA or 401k into an IRA and physical gold. And here's the best news. It doesn't cost you a penny out of your pocket. You gotta love that. So to get started, just text America to 989-898 to get a free info kit. Protect your savings today, folks, with Birch Gold. Text America to 989-898 and get your free info kit today. All right, let's check out some of the major stories of the week that we are following. And of course, I think finally we see maybe light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe we see justice, maybe we see a level playing field. Maybe we see a justice system that's not just targeted at Donald Trump and his MAGA supporters. Because now FBI Director James Comey has been indicted, according to the indictment, a two count indictment. He lied to Congress, perjured himself in a testimony and he's gearing up. He wants to fight it out in court and we'll see where it goes. Obviously, I think this should be the first of many. The justice system was weaponized against President Trump. It started with the Russia collusion, went all the way through the lawfare that Joe Biden put together to try to stop President Trump from getting elected again. Uh, it's the worst we've ever seen as far as our justice system in this country can never happen again. And for people to have any kind of confidence in the justice system, these kind of evil doers need to pay a price for their crimes. So we shall see what is going to happen. But hey, it's a good first step. The FBI also decided that they are gonna be firing agents who decided to kneel during the George Floyd protests. The reports are there are about 20 of them and better late than never. I guess. It couldn't have been done day one. They had to wait a few months and now we're at that point where they can be fired. You know, this is outrageous. We have agents like that. They should be non political, be nonpartisan. They shouldn't be playing the politics of Black Lives Matter. And George Floyd, that was all a hoax because we Know how George Floyd really died from drug overdosing. It wasn't the actions of that police officer. That guy was railroaded. Who knows if he's ever going to see justice. Those other officers were thrown in prison as well. Shouldn't have been. So we were lied about that part of the many lies that we have had to endure. You know what, we're also lied about January 6th. And we just found out this week The FBI deployed 274 undercover agents at J6. Were they just informing or were they instigating? I think the latter and the former liar who was masquerading as FBI Director Christopher Wray lied about this. Okay, so we had, we had FBI agents in the midst of this, probably Department of Homeland Security agents in the midst of it. We had metropolitan Police officers from D.C. dressed up in the middle of this, all of this to instigate peace loving Trump supporters who were there to protest a stolen election. And it was stolen. Okay, so we were lied to about George Floyd, we were lied to about the election, we were lied to about January 6th. Do we have a theme here? Yes. Bunch of lies. And, but we saw after Charlie Clark was killed, conservatives, MAGA supporters, Trump supporters are not violent. Okay, so they were there to peacefully protest a stolen election. I think all these agents, all of these people that were undercover instigated the problems that we saw. Antifa also was in the midst of all this. So we need the House to get to the bottom of it. We need to have a true committee investigating it. We need to have the videos released, we need to have the pipe bomber arrested. We need to get to the bottom of all the lies concerning January 6th. Representative Haley Stevens has filed a motion to impeach RFK Jr. This is ridiculous. I mean the better they do the, the more they go after him, right? I mean President Trump had to deal with all these impeachments. If the Democrats take control of Congress again, they're going to beach them again. So this representative is all upset of what RFK Jr. Is doing. He is doing yeoman's work, trying to put the health of the American people first. Thank goodness we have somebody in there who's not owned by the pharmaceutical industry, but she wants to impeach him. Now, of course they had the announcement with President Trump concerning Tylenol and the connection to autism. So what we have now is a bunch of progressive women on the left gobbling Tylenol to protest President Trump. We've known for years about the risk between Tylenol and autism. Tylenol even put put out a social media post back in 2017 saying don't take it during pregnancy. Yet women are doing this, liberal women are doing it, putting their babies at risk all because they hate RFK Jr. And Donald Trump. Speaking of hate, we saw it this weekend right inside of Dallas ICE detention facility attacked by another crazed leftist with anti ICE messages on his bullets. Another person motivated by the far left and their extremist rhetoric. ICE is being targeted all over the country. And this is what happens when you call people Gestapo, call people Nazis, call people Hitler and it is a disgusting trend in our country. This week Jimmy Kimmel went back on the air on abc. He was also not shown by Nextar stations and Sinclair stations until they were lented so now he's already on much hoopla, big ratings, they've already started to fall again. Okay? Because the bottom line is this guy's a far leftist. He's not funny. He just makes fun of one side. He only has guests on from one side. When you have broadcast airwaves, you're supposed to be fair and balanced and you're supposed to tell the truth. And he does neither. So the complaints about him were legit, were coming from people across the country. The liberals protested. He's back on. Let's see how his ratings do long term. And finally, some good news for the economy this week. The US economy grew in the second quarter 3.8%, surpassing expectations, surpassing all the doubts about the tariff, showing us that the Trump economic plan is working. And just think, folks, we could have had Kamala Harris as president. And more bidenomics. Thank goodness we're moving in the right direction under President Trump. Lot to get to as we roll on right here on Ringside Politics, right here in Real America's Voice. Jeff Corer with you. We'll be right back. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. 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Our aging infrastructure can't keep up and the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com A new NFL season means a fresh start and fresh styles. @nflshop.com you'll find the latest jerseys, hats and sideline gear to rep your team all season long. From rookies making their debut to legends, NFLShop.com has it all. Score exclusive styles you won't find anywhere else. And show up ready for every kickoff and big play fan like a pro. And shop now@nflshop.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The News Agents we're not just here to tell you what's happening. We're here. But why? From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast the News Agents dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And The News Agents USA listening to the News Agents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free Iheart app and search the newsagents to start listening. Lot to talk about with our first guest. Michael o' Neill is with us. He's a vice president for legal affairs with the Landmark Legal Foundation. And Mike, how are you sir? Welcome. Good to be with you. Jeff. How are you today? I'm doing great. Thanks so much for your time. And wanted to start off by getting your thoughts on this indictment of James Comey. I saw Andy McCarthy on a interview, sort of dissing it, saying he didn't think it was going to lead to anything, you know, of course, I guess the first prosecutor wouldn't bring the charges and that person was removed. And they got another one in there who did. I mean, I'm a layman. I'm no expert. You're the expert. Seems to me this guy committed lots of crimes. What do you make of this, Mike? A couple things. First of all, this is an indictment. So this is a, this is something secured in front of a Grand jury, and this is in Alexandria, so this is the Eastern District of Virginia. Certainly not a deep dyed in the wool red area. So presumably the jurors are from the Washington metropolitan area. We know that this is a very blue, blue, blue, purple at best area. So you're going to assume that the jurors here are going to be even predisposed to not necessarily be on the side of the, of the, of the government in this case, of the prosecution in this case. So that's, that's to be said, again, it's a prima facie case. A grand jury indictment says that there's more evidence than not to say, suggest that the individual accused committed the crimes that they're being indicted for. In this case, of course, James Comey. So what, what are the claims? There's two, there's two charges that he was indicted on. And one was perjury. One was making a false statement in front of congressional testimony. And this was the testimony that former Director Comey made in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee when he testified that he did not authorize anyone in the FBI to leak information to the media. And then the second charge was obstruction of a congressional proceeding, which of course is tied with that perjury chart, is charged to that perjury indictment. Now, the facts of this are, again, this has kind of been played out over the past couple months as a lot of these records have been disclosed. And we saw kind of, what I've kind of surmised is a concerted effort around 2016 to move the narrative, the national narrative off the topic of Hillary Clinton's. Right. Issues. Remember, she, she had that unsecured server up in New York and a lot of people were talking about her 33,000 emails, right? 33,000 exactly. You know, the bleep, the bleach bit and the, and the whole, you know, smashing of cell phones. And she should have been charged with something. Yeah, I think this is part of, this was part of, again, a broader, a broader, a broader action on the part of a lot of the deep State folks, the FBI, Obama administration, Justice Department officials back in this area, the Clinton, the Hillary Clinton campaign particularly, they were stressing, the Hillary Clinton campaign was understanding that they were going to get a lot of this pressure and they wanted to change the narrative. The narrative, of course, being to this concocted scheme, this concocted theory that Donald Trump was somehow working with the Russians, colluding with the Russians. So ridiculous. Absolutely. And it was based on a phony dossier. There was a bunch of lies and then what about all the testimony they made before the FISA court? I mean, to get the authorization to spy on Carter Page? I mean, what about being charged for that? Is it passed the statute of limitations? I don't necessarily think so, because I think if you can link it to an ongoing conspiracy, and then there's, there's efforts to link this to an ongoing conspiracy as late as something in the Biden administration. So I don't, I think that those control some of the statute of limitations. I think this might be just the first domino to drop in this case. But here the case is fairly straightforward. Again, it's that James Comey said that he didn't leak information and that there's evidence to suggest that he did. And again, I would point again, the skeptics of this to look at an Office of Inspector General report from the Department of Justice. This IG report was conducted by an Obama era ig, Obama appointed IG who concluded that Comey had leaked sensitive records to the public. Now, if he lied about that in front of Congress, he should be subject to account for this. So again, Mike. Yeah, go ahead. And I appreciate you giving me a little more optimism about it. So why can't we ever get this in a venue that is not hardcore left or mostly left? I mean, why can't we ever do this in a venue of a red state? Why does it always have to be in the D.C. area? Well, this is a crime. This is crime. So it's locus of where the events took place. So again, you're talking about if he was doing some of this, if there was, there has to be a touch point to, to the venue and the jurisdiction where you're charging the individual in. So although obviously the testimony was on Capitol Hill, I'm assuming that there was, there was some activity that, that brought the jurisdiction into eastern, eastern district of Virginia. But look, if, if the prosecutors have confidence in this. Again, this isn't a DC Jury. This. I'm not, I'm not going to decry all of the Virginians here. I'm a, I'm a native Virginian. So I think, I think that the government will have a good shot here at securing a conviction in this case. Again, others are a little more doubtful. But let's let the play the criminal justice system play out. The arraignment's going to be on October 9th. And so we're going to see how this process plays out. Clearly. I'm sure James Comey is going to have the best lawyers money can pay for no Left lean lawyers are going to hesitate to come to rush to their friend James Comey's aide. So we'll see how this process plays out. But I think that we serious matters, obviously this is a serious issue when you securing an indictment is in and of itself something that represents a significant seriousness of the matter. When you look at the left wing judges in D.C. you know, the juries there, the super left wing juries there and then the Virginia area, the D.C. area just gives a liberal such an advantage. I mean, you know, the home field advantage big time on all these cases and you know, at least this one is not in D.C. as you said, it's a little, a little different. But we'll see how it goes Real quick in our final minute or so. What do you make of the president wanting the Supreme Court to do something on this birthright citizenship issue? Mike? Yeah, that's great. Great. Sooner rather than later, it's imperative that we get a determination about what the intent was of those individuals of the ratifiers of the 14th, 15th, 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. This one in the 14th Amendment that pertains to birthright citizenship. And it's good that this is going to be hopefully, I think they asked the court to take it. I don't, I don't necessarily think the court has agreed as of yet, but sooner rather than later. Look, this, this is shaping up to be a big term for the, for the Supreme Court. We've got tariffs, we've got Section two of the Voting Rights Act. That's the redistricting based on race. We've got transgender individuals in Sports under Title 9. We have this potential case again, we're talking about here, which, which of course is birthright citizenship. So again, the Supreme Court is poised to take up their new term in a little over a week. Looks like there could be some real blockbuster cases in front us. All right. We'll keep our fingers crossed and, and hope for some good decisions by the Supreme Court. As you say, these are, these issues are monumental. We'll have you back on soon. Thank you so much. Michael Neal with us from a great group and that is Landmark Legal Foundation. All right, let's share with you some clips we've got for you today. The first one is just about Charlie Kirk and still can't just credit him enough for what he did. Just so impressed with his work, his knowledge, his insight. Here he's discussing how the left uses power. Let's check out clip number one. Let me kind of just make sure we all know what time it is so that I judge a politician based on how they tell the time. Not obviously that metaphorically. What time is it? Do you really still think we live in a country where live and let live is a thing? And this is what drives me nuts about some older conservatives where they say, charlie, why do you talk about the trans thing so much? I said, well, you still think we live in 1996. So you still think we live in a country where it's all about tolerance. So here's the spectrum, right? First, you must tolerate something. Mandatory tolerance. Okay, fine, sure, I tolerate it. Then it's mandatory acceptance. You must agree with it. But then it's mandatory celebration, like you must then, no, no. Then it's mandatory participation. What time is it? We are now transitioning from mandatory celebration to mandatory participation where that if you're a baseball player and you don't want to wear the patch on the sleeve in the Tampa Bay Rays, you're not allowed to play in the baseball game. Mandatory celebration, mandatory participation. So what time is it exactly? I won't interfere with your life and you won't interfere with mine. What a lie. Are you kidding me? They put guns on our head. We're like, oh, actually, I'm going to let you do whatever you want. Actually, they're the ones that are willing to use force against us all the time. And we're supposed to believe that we're still in kind of this live and let live atmosphere. Look, live and let live works if both sides agree to. Has to be a mutual detente. They crossed that a long time ago. Boy, sadly, he was so prophetic, wasn't he? About what he was facing, the dangers, the left, the violence. So sad. But on a bright note, we have a Cardinal Dolan talking about how Charlie Kirk is a modern day Saint Paul. I love the way he looked at his incredible life. Let's check out clip number two. So when I heard the tragic news, I said, I wonder who he was. And then all of a sudden, this overwhelming. This overwhelming sense of sorrow and kind of renewal. And I thought, I gotta learn about this guy. And the more I learned about him, I thought, this guy's a modern day Saint Paul. He was a missionary, he's an evangelist. He's a hero. He's one, I think, that knew what Jesus meant when he said, the truth will set you free. And to do it. Now, I understand. He was pretty blunt and he was pretty direct. He didn't try to avoid any controversy. He didn't even try to avoid confrontation. The difference is the way the mode, the style, that he did it always with respect. And not only was that a gracious kind of virtuous thing to do, it's effective because when your opponents see this guy kind of respects me, we kind of disagree here, but he kind of enjoys me and he's thanking me for being here and he's telling me he appreciates the trust I have in him and sharing my views. I thought, this guy can teach us something. I've been spending the last week reading about him. And so last night I was at NYU Catholic Student center, about 200 students there. This is what they talked about. This is what they talked about. And of course, he's right. He had that kind of respect for people on the other side, inviting dialogue, debate. And, you know, was so effective and so influential because he touched so many people and turned them around from the indoctrination toward the truth. All right, we want the truth. What about the truth about Oklahoma City and the bombing? So many things we've been told are lies about so many of these big events in American history. We've got a real expert on it next right here on Ringside Politics on Real America's Voice. We'll be right back. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time, save 25% at LG.com with code Fall24. 5. Bring the Boom X Boom. There's a lot going on in Hollywood. How are you supposed to stay on top of it all? Variety has the solution. Take 20 minutes out of your day and listen to the new daily Variety podcast for breaking entertainment news and expert perspectives. Where do you see the business actually heading? Featuring the iconic journalists of Variety and hosted by co editor and chairman Cynthia Littleton. The only constant in Hollywood is change. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Daily Variety and listen now. The US electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@propain.com A new NFL season means a fresh start and fresh styles. @nflshop.com you'll find the latest jerseys, hats and sideline gear to rep your team all season long. From rookies making their debut to legends, NFLShop.com has it all. Score exclusive styles you won't find anywhere else. And show up ready for every kickoff. And big play fan like a pro. And shop now@nflshop.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The News Agents we're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? For me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopan with Global's award winning podcast, the News Agents Dropping daily, covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And The News Agents USA listening to the News Agents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. Well, I've been holding 30 years ago, you had the Oklahoma City bombing that rocked the nation in April of 1995. And among the victims of that tragic event were two young, young boys, the grandsons of our next guest who has really embarked upon an incredible investigation into what really happened there. Digging a lot deeper than the official narrative. Her book, Shadows of Conspiracy. Let's welcome Kathy Sanders to the Ringside Politics program. Hey, Kathy, how are you? Welcome. I'm fine, thank you, Jeff. It's good to be here with you this afternoon. Yes. So you were you've been digging all these years to try to get to the truth, the official narrative. It was Timothy McVeigh with help from one guy, right, Terry Nichols. Is that the truth, Kathy? No, that isn't the truth. You see, just a few days after the bombing and after we buried my grandchildren, I had a dinner at my home with some of the parents of the 19 children that were killed. And one of the mothers alerted us that the bomb squad had been downtown before. We didn't leave her. And then we found a whole office full of people and we were concerned, what in the world would the bomb squad have been doing downtown before the bombing? I think they had prior nor prior knowledge. And I've spent 30 years investigating. Wow. So prior knowledge of what exactly? What are we talking about here? Timothy McVeigh part of a broader network? Was it even Timothy McVeigh? Was Terry Nichols involved? How vast of a network are we talking about here? Didn't they initially say it was some sort of person with Timothy McVeigh, that was middle Eastern looking. Am I wrong about that? Set it straight here, Kathy. You're right, you're right. You know, right after the bombing, the largest manhunt in American history was going on for John Doe number two. And in just a couple of weeks, the FBI says, hey, you know what? We made a mistake. There is no John Doe number two. And it's like what? There were 24 eyewitnesses that saw John Doe number two downtown the morning of the bombing, and not one saw him alone. Many of them described the same dark skinned man with the hat with the flames on the side and the tattoo on his arm. I don't think 24 people could be wrong. You know, the manhunt for John Doe number two. He even had a two million dollar reward on his hand. There was something just fishy to me about that. And I went to Stephen Jones, Timothy McVeigh's attorney, and I said, look, if you want to point the finger at someone else, I'll help you because I want everybody round up and brought to the party. And that's exactly what I started doing. I was an asset to the Jones team because no one wanted to help McVeigh. And they wouldn't talk to the defense team. But as a victim, I could go talk to them. Therefore, I was privy to all the documents. I learned about Carol Howe, an ATF informant that had warned her ATF handler. People at Elohim City, where she was planted, were planning a bombing. Wow. So you were getting all this other information together. The public wasn't getting it. Timothy McVeigh was executed in record time, wasn't he? Didn't he admit, didn't he admit to his role, though, in this bombing? McVeigh did admit to his role. I talking to Steven Jones, he told Tim, he goes, tim, I think you're lying. I, I think there's other people involved. And Tim said, well, how would telling the truth change anything? And Jones reluctantly said, well, I guess it wouldn't. And then McVeigh stuck with his story that he was the only one. Most people aren't aware he was given a lie detector test and he failed it. When it came to, did you act alone? He said yes. And he. That was his answer. All right, so you're the expert on this. Who was this other individual that was with him? Who was it, Kathy? Well, I'm not sure. There's. I have several suspect that I believe that it could be. Quickly, I'll tell you. Jennifer McVeigh said she was laundering hundred dollar bills for her brother that came from bank robberies. And there was a group of men staying at Elohim City where the ATF informant was that the FBI had named the Midwest bank robbers. And I think it's very possible one of my strong suspects would be perhaps Richard Guthrie. I have several ideas, but why I pick on Richard Guthrie? He was arrested after the bombing, but not for the Oklahoma City bombing. And he told an LA Times reporter, I'm getting ready to blow the lid off the Oklahoma City bombing. And the next day, he was found hanging dead in his cell. Now, I don't know what Richard was going to tell him, but I think that the money that Tim's sister was laundering for her brother came from the bank robberies that the guys at Elohim City were involved in, because they were. We have about a minute, Kathy. Was the Iraqi government involved in this, you think? Is there any Middle Eastern connection here? No, I did not see one. One of the most poignant things I found, I called Danny Colson, FBI Agent Danny Colson, who was called in to be the lead investigator on the Oklahoma City bombing case. I found out he retired. I called him, I said, I want to talk to you. And this was 10 years after the bombing. He agreed to talk. I took all my evidence files and I met with him. I showed him my files when Carol Howe Howe in the ATF reports, where she warned him, these people are planning a bombing. I showed him Jennifer McVeigh's confession. I showed him this phone calls that McVeigh made to Elohim City. And Danny Colson told me, wow, he goes, you probably have more information than anyone. Anyone. Well, person does. You know what? The. The point of the story is that he said, kathy, I understand now. After the bombing, I was called in to be in charge of the. The bombing case, and I was put on leave. And that's where I stayed for 10 years until I retired. And he didn't. He wasn't privy to all the information I was showing him. Well, you do, really. You've done the public a great service here with your investigation and the book. We need to learn more. It's just another case where the public hasn't been told the truth about a major event in American history. And thank you for your courage in putting all this research together. Thank you for writing the book. We look forward to having you back on Kathy Sanders with us. The book is Shadows of Conspiracy, all about the Oklahoma City bombing. Thank you, Kathy. All right. You know, Kathy is exercising her rights as an American to write about an issue. I'm exercising my rights as an American to speak out. We do have free speech rights, thankfully. And we have a guest who has written about that. She's a clinical psychologist and best selling author. Dr. Chloe with us from the free state of Florida. And doctor, how are you? Welcome. Thank you, Jeff. It's great to be with you and the free speech community. Yes. So free speech is under attack here. Dr. Chloe. We certainly saw a killer, you know, take, take out Charlie Kirk, who believed in free speech. He was on campuses to promote free speech. I've been worried about what's going on in college campuses for years because it seems to be so one sided, such just left wing indoctrination. When I went to college, it was more of a debate atmosphere where all sides were welcomed. And I think there are a lot of people that don't want to hear from conservatives on college campuses. That's a threat to free speech, isn't it? Absolutely. In fact, they consider it a threat to their existence. Right. To hear from people that they don't like. And you're absolutely right, Jeff, that when you went to college and when I went to college, the skew of liberal faculty was certainly always stronger than to conservatives, but it's nowhere near it like what it is now. For example, in New England, the liberal to conservative faculty ratio is 28 to 1. And so we have these phrases like words or violence flying around to the point where people feel justified in using actual violence as, quote, self defense against speech that they don't like. As a psychologist, I think it's psychotic. Well, and I'm glad you've written about this and you know, you've talked about. Can I say that one of your books, How Free Speech Matters and How to Use it Fearlessly. Boy, Charlie Kirk was certainly doing that. He was fearless. He knew there were threats against him, he knew people wanted to shut him up. He went out there anyway and he lost his life because of it. We certainly see seemingly to me, a lot of left wing violence that is occurring now. They're, they're going after conservatives. The rhetoric that we see from some of these politicians on the left, Nazi, Hitler, you know, Gestapo, I mean, that just riles up people that are already deranged and they commit acts of violence. So these are real concerns for those of us who do believe in the first amendment, believe in free speech. Absolutely. I was at one of Charlie's events this past summer. I mean, what an amazing man. But to your point, as far as the politics of this, I mean, I think free speech should be owned by people on all sides of the aisle. It's for all of us. However, as I explain in my book, can I say that there is something unique coming from the left here? There's two things which I think are related. One is what I call dialogue intolerance. So liberals are statistically more likely than conservatives to disinvite a speaker, defriend on Facebook, drop in real life, distance in real life, or decline to date over political differences. They're also statistically much more likely, like we're talking double to eight times more likely to endorse or celebrate political violence. And as a psychologist, this makes perfect sense to me because when you have a violent offender, the first thing you want to do is teach them to use their words. So the left, I think that I try to be compassionate. I'm assuming that they mean well. They're shutting down dialogue because they are misinformed. They think the right is truly Hitler and whatnot. So then they don't want to talk. And as a psychologist, we know that when you don't talk, that's when you're more vulnerable to acting out with violence. So we need to reach them. How did this happen? I mean, how did it get to this point? I mean, I know a lot of people that have lost touch with their children because their children are more left wing. They've become alienated, friendships have been lost, and it's usually the left winger that is saying, no, I can't be friends with you if you support MAGA and Donald Trump. I've experienced that with people on the left. So how did this happen? And unfortunately, you only have about a minute. So tell us, Dr. Klon. Yes, yeah. To your point, you know, whether it be powerful politicians that are suggesting, you know, that MAGA equals, you know, Gestapo and slave trade, or large amounts of media where you hear, you know, Stephen Miller being called an absolute white supremacist. And so therefore they feel as if they are just simply being virtuous. And I think, unfortunately, vast majority of Americans who are liberal are being very misled, factually misled. And so I look to politicians and to general media as well as to most of academia, for truly, that's where the true misinformation, I think, is coming from. Yes. Dr. Chloe, your work is valuable. Thank you so much for your voice. Thank you for your courage in speaking out and thanks for being with us. You know, speaking of that left wing violence, it's not just here in this country. How about Italy? They didn't like the fact that you know Palestine hasn't been recognized by the Italian Prime Minister. Antifa went on a rampage. Let's check out clip number three. It and one place here in this country where they've certainly made their mark is Minnesota. So here's a little example of the next tourism video you're going to see for the great state of Minnesota. Let's check out clip number four. Welcome to Minnesota, where every moment is an adventure. From the tranquil natural beauty of our waters to the rich culture of our cities, Minnesota is where un unforgettable memories are made. Go inside now. Get in the house. Step into friendly neighborhoods that make you feel right at home the moment you arrive. Stroll through vibrant streets, soak in the energy of our dynamic nightlife, or indulge in a shopping spree at one of our world class boutiques. And behind it all is strong leadership and inclusive policies that create a place where everyone can thrive. Minnesota, we're ready to be your next adventure. I'm hopeful our friends in Minnesota are going to make some new decisions as far as their political leadership goes. We got a lot to get to as we roll on springside politics here in real America's voice. We'll be right back. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. 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Star player Matt Shaw was friends with Charlie Kirk, who was a fan of the team. After Charlie's murder, Erica Kirk asked Matt to come to the memorial. He did, and he missed a game to do so. Now we come back to the Mets, whose announcer is under fire for these comments. I don't want to talk about any of the politics of it, but the thought of leaving your team in the middle of a race for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes me as weird. Yes, it was so weird that a guy wanted to go to his friend who had been gruesomely murdered in front of millions. Weird. It's funny, that same announcer didn't think it was weird at all that a moment of silence was held for a career criminal who had overdosed on fentanyl while the players covered their faces outside while cardboard cutouts of people sat in the stands. Unbelievable. And finally want to give kudos to a smart bunch of dogs? Let's check out clip number six. Oh, girls, it's liberals. Liberals, liberals. Get them liberals. Didn't have to teach them later. It's born with it. All right, we're gonna check out our memes of the week. The first one is from Susan in the great state of California. And that is, yes, look at old James Comey there founding some seashells. Good one, Susan. The next one here is from John S. In Texas. And just what we're talking about there, Charlie Kirk Memorial versus the BLM Memorial. Well done. And our final one here from the team is Robert in Virginia, the leftist dilemma. How to take your Tylenol while mask alone in your car. All right, great. And now without further ado, one from the great outstanding rap team in Denver. We've got our next one ready to ship. All right, Excellent, excellent, excellent. Always deliver. They always deliver good ones. All right, thanks to our great team in Denver for their great work in making this show so fun and enjoyable. And thanks to all of you for joining us. We'll be back next Saturday to do it again. 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