SECURING AMERICA WITH FRANK GAFFNEY - FEBRUARY 15th, 2026

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Real America’s Voice — Securing America with Frank Gaffney

Episode: Securing America with Frank Gaffney — February 15, 2026
Date: February 14, 2026
Host: Frank Gaffney
Guests: Dede Logison (President, Save the Persecuted Christians), Mike Arnold (Founder, Arise Africa), Stephen Osemigi (President, Save Nigeria Group), Doug Burton (Journalist & Analyst)
Main Theme: The ongoing genocide of Christians in Nigeria, government complicity, the global implications for religious freedom, and urgent calls to action—both in Nigeria and the United States, particularly Texas.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the severe and underreported persecution of Christians in Nigeria—characterized by the hosts and guests as an ongoing genocide—and examines the international response, the role of the Nigerian government, U.S. foreign policy (especially under President Trump), and the broader threat of radical Islam and Sharia law’s spread beyond Nigeria. The panel features firsthand accounts, policy recommendations, and warnings for American listeners, explicitly linking the Nigerian crisis to concerns about Islamization within the United States, with a focus on Texas.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Global Stage: Christian Persecution (00:30–02:53)

• Frank Gaffney introduces the crisis:
  “By some estimates, over 380 million Christians are being heavily persecuted around the world...one of the most egregious examples is in Nigeria, with seeming complicity of the government.” (00:34)

• Dede Logison recaps participation in high-profile events focused on religious freedom:
  “We have been in Washington, D.C. for the International Religious Freedom Summit and...the National Prayer Breakfast. Particularly, Nigeria this year had a huge entourage of people coming for concerns because what's happening in Nigeria, Frank, is genocide.” (02:53)

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2. Firsthand Testimony: Mike Arnold’s Nigerian Mission (04:45–09:47)

• Mike Arnold recounts his mission work and shocking experiences in Nigeria:

  • Describes Nigeria's transformation from economic growth and peace to chaos: “When I first started going in 2010, it was the only nation on earth where radical Islam was being pushed back ... it was stable, relatively peaceful.” (05:09)
  • Personalizes the crisis: “Met a principal ... Ms. Hanatu ... She had three daughters. The jihadis came in, Boko Haram ... killing men like goats and they started abducting and raping the women and children.” (05:29)
  • On being recruited by the Nigerian government for PR and his resistance: “They paid my way... And up to the moment I opened my mouth, he thought I was going to say, there’s no genocide. ... I spoke it ... it flipped the global narrative.” (07:23)

• Debunking the Official Narrative:
  Arnold refutes the “herder-farmer conflict” explanation:
  “They’re not yelling, ‘where’s my cow?’ They’re yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’ when they do it. I mean, it’s clearly a jihad, but they’re just trying to ... muddy the water.” (09:21)

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3. Media Framing and International Response (11:29–13:51)

• Stephen Osemigi highlights mainstream media neglect and thanks leaders for calling it genocide:
  “The mainstream media had ignored this genocide, laboring it as a climate change issue ... we want to thank President Trump ... for finally calling this crisis what it is: a targeted Christian genocide that has taken the lives of more than 300,000 people in the last 10 years.” (12:44–13:36)

• Scale of Crisis:

  • Over 11 million displaced.
  • Specific examples of ethnic cleansing (e.g., 120,000 Nigerians still in refugee camps in Cameroon since 2009). (13:40)

• Recent Atrocity:

  • “Three days ago, these terrorists ... killed more than 177 people ... men, women and children ... because they did not comply with a demand for Sharia law.” (14:30)
  • “When news agencies report it, they say it is farmer-header clash. It is bandits. No, it is a jihad.” (15:17)

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4. U.S. Government’s Role and Policy Recommendations (17:22–20:00, 33:12–36:22)

• Arnold & Osemigi urge direct intervention:

  • Osemigi: “To finish the job...take out the terror camps that are known...invite the United States to set up a base of AFRICOM in Nigeria.” (18:08–18:56)
  • Cites recent U.S. airstrikes under Trump targeting ISIS as “a bold step” but calls for more sustained action. (15:50, 18:20)

• Sanctions and Legislative Action:
  “Thanks to Secretary Rubio ... for sanctioning sponsors of terrorism ... appeal for Ted Cruz’s bill to be passed to codify these efforts in law.” (19:40)

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5. Linking the Nigerian Crisis to U.S. Domestic Concerns—Sharia in Texas (42:28–47:05)

• Dede Logison details the alarming influx of foreign Islamic influence and attempts to establish Sharia-compliant communities in Texas:
  “Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey ... pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into the state of Texas to stand up mosques. ... They even tried to stand up Epic City, which was going to be a community run under Sharia law.” (43:08)

• Urges support for “Proposition 10” to ban Sharia in Texas:
  “If they can do it in Texas, they'll do it everywhere.” (44:08)

• Mike Arnold draws parallels between Nigeria and Texas:
  “Nigeria is like a petri dish. If you take radical Islam and put it in what should be a secular democracy and let it go unfettered, what does it become? And it becomes genocide.” (44:17)

  • “Not all jihadis come with a mask and a machete. ... It's extremely well coordinated, extremely sophisticated, extremely well funded. ... They are 100% intent on conquest. Putting a black flag over the Texas capitol.” (44:31–45:18)

• Stephen Osemigi issues a stark warning from direct experience:
  “What I would like President Trump to do is ... send delegations to Nigeria ... go to the camps yourself ... Focus on the internally displaced. 85% of them are Christians and they are counting on President Trump and the Americans to save them.” (35:00)

  • On the danger of Sharia: “They stone people to death. They burn people on the street... I want to warn the people of Texas, if you don’t want what’s happening in Nigeria to happen here in America. Vote yes.” (46:20–46:47)

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6. The Role of the Nigerian Government and Internal Factions (36:49–38:40)

• Doug Burton clarifies:
  “There is a jihadist faction within the government of Nigeria itself. ... The US Government and its intelligence agencies ... currently are not investigating the key group that is part of the jihadism and the killing of Christians and that is the Fulani ethnic militia.” (36:49–37:40)

  • Urges the U.S. to support democratic elements and Nigerian civil society: “The role of the United States is to support the zealous pro-democratic voters in Nigeria and the diaspora.” (38:30)

• Dede Logison: “It was the capture of the Nigerian political administration that has enabled the jihad ... President Muhammadu Buhari ... filled every administrative post ... with Fulani leaders.” (38:40–39:18)

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7. Closing: Call to Action for the U.S. (especially Texas) (47:05–48:04)

• Doug Burton:
  “It’s a civilizational fight all over the world. ... Sharia is being enforced in Nigeria. ... All the countries neighboring Nigeria have Islamist insurgencies. If insurgency conquers the state in Nigeria, it will spread.” (47:05–48:04)

• Frank Gaffney Closing Words:
  “No crime against humanity has remotely compared to what is being done to 380 million plus Christians. ... What is being done there will be done here ... We are fighting this with everything we've got.” (39:36, 41:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dede Logison:
  “What’s happening in Nigeria, Frank, is genocide.” (02:56)

• Mike Arnold:
  “They're not yelling ‘where’s my cow?’ They're yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’ when they do it. ... It's clearly a jihad, but they're just trying to, in these benign terms so people won't pay attention.” (09:21)

  • “They paid my way ... and up to the moment I opened my mouth, he thought I was going to say, there’s no genocide. ... I spoke it ... it flipped the global narrative.” (07:19)

• Stephen Osemigi:
  “The mainstream media had ignored this genocide for so long, laboring it as a climate change issue...no, it is a jihad.” (13:10, 15:19)

  • “We do not want to be associated with ... the jihadist group. We want the US to be based in Nigeria, work with us ... to secure the region. That is how to finish the job.” (18:20)
  • “[If] you do not want what’s happening in Nigeria to happen here in America. Vote yes.” (46:47)

• Doug Burton:
  “There is a jihadist faction within the government of Nigeria itself. ... The US Government ... are not investigating ... the Fulani ethnic militia.” (36:49–37:40)

  • “It’s a civilizational fight all over the world.” (47:05)

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Recommended Action Steps

• For U.S. Government / President Trump:

  • Continue and expand targeted measures against terror camps in Nigeria.
  • Invest in independent census and aid programs for the displaced (IDPs).
  • Support legislative efforts sanctioning terror sponsors.
  • Send high-level investigatory delegations and avoid being swayed by lobbyists promoting the "farmer-herder" narrative.

• For American Listeners (especially Texans):

  • Support Texas Proposition 10 (ban on Sharia law).
  • Recognize global patterns reflected at home: “What is happening in Nigeria, can happen in America.”
  • Engage with bansharia.com and support initiatives combating radical Islam’s spread.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Christian Persecution Overview: 00:30–02:53
• Mike Arnold’s Nigeria Experience: 04:45–09:47
• Press Conference & Media Critique: 12:44–15:36
• Policy Recommendations / Actions Needed: 17:22–20:00, 33:12–36:22
• Discussion of Sharia in Texas: 42:28–47:05
• Closing Calls to Action: 47:05–end

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Tone & Style

The tone is urgent, passionate, and assertive, blending firsthand witness, policy advocacy, and warnings. The hosts and guests speak directly, using clear and at times emotive language, and frame the events as part of a global existential struggle for religious and civilizational survival.

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This summary encapsulates the critical content and spirit of Securing America’s February 15, 2026 episode and is intended to inform and activate listeners who have not heard the episode itself.

Transcript

[Dede Logison]

This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.

[Stephen Osemigi]

Foreign.

[Frank Gaffney]

Welcome to Securing America with me, Frank Gaffney. The program that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country we love against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And the glory is to God. We are looking forward to in this hour an extraordinarily important conversation about God's kingdom here on earth and the challenges Christians are facing in numbers unimaginable. By Some estimates, over 380 million Christians are being heavily persecuted around the world. And we're going to take time today, a full hour, in fact, with our friend and colleague Dede Logison, the president and CEO of a tremendously important organization, Save the Persecuted Christians, to explore one of the most egregious examples of this horrific persecution of Christians taking place not only in plain sight, but with the it seems complicity of the government of the nation in which it's occurring. That would be Nigeria. And we have several remarkable guests who are going to speak with great authority about what is happening there. But before we do, I want to turn over the mic to Dede to sort of set the stage for the conversation we're going to have by reminding us what this plague of barbaric mistreatment of individuals worldwide simply because they follow Jesus Christ entails and what it will mean not just for, well, the people involved most obviously, and not even just for us, but for Judeo Christian civilization more generally. Dede, thank you so much for joining us and thank you for the great work you do, especially over the past week. I know you have been wildly impactful at the International Religious Freedom summit in Washington, D.C. the National Prayer Breakfast. I want you to give us a quick flavor of your exploits in the past week or so.

[Dede Logison]

Thank you, Frank. Glad to be here. We have been in Washington, D.C. for the International Religious Freedom Summit and immediately following that was the National Prayer Breakfast, all at the same hotel, the Washington Hilton, where President Reagan was famously shot upon exiting the building. So every year for more than 60 years, the National Prayer Breakfast has come together. The International Religious Freedom Summit is hosted to bring together people from many different countries to raise concerns about persecution for freedom of religion or belief, and particularly Nigeria this year had a huge entourage of people coming for concerns because what's happening in Nigeria, Frank, is genocide. And we have our friend Mike Arnold, former mayor of Blanco, Texas, who has an organization working on the ground in Nigeria called Arise Africa. He's also just published a book called called Epicenter Nigeria Radical Islam and the War for Global Order, which is available right now. Mike Arnold, we're so happy to have you here. You went to Nigeria at the invitation of the Nigerian government. They thought that you were going to be their friend, but instead you stood in front of the Nigerian press and told them how this is a genocide. Welcome to the show today. Mike, tell us, give us a little background on how you came to be at the center of this genocide. Accusations that President Trump is lobbying towards Nigeria.

[Mike Arnold]

Well, thank you, Deedee. It's crazy story. I'm just a simple country boy from the hill country of Texas. I was in Nigeria on a short term mission trip in 2019. Now that was my 10th trip over there. I've been doing mission work over there. When I first started going in 2010, it was the only nation on earth where radical Islam was being pushed back. It was fast growing economy, it was stable, relatively peaceful. And so in 2019, we were on this mission trip. There's been a lot of violence that I had heard reports of, but it never became personal to me. It was always distant. It seemed like an anomaly in Nigeria. But in Abuja, which is their capital, modern city, we took an unexpected detour, ended up in a camp for displaced people. To them, IDPs eternally displaced people. And I most horrific conditions imaginable. These people had been there for five years already, victims of the Gwoza massacre, which is in far northeast Nigeria, and met a principal, school principal there, a woman named Ms. Hanatu, that told me her story. Most horrific imaginable scenario for these people. She had three daughters. The jihadis came in Boko Haram. She said they were killing men like goats and they started abducting and raping the women and children. So she finally they, they escaped and ended up in this camp. And I promised I would tell her story. I had no idea what a rabbit hole that would be. As I started investigating. I've been back six times since then. Oftentimes level four do not travel warnings. I mean, I've been into the front lines, been all over and there's a massive scheme taking place, the Islamization of the whole nation through any means necessary, effectively. And, and it's displaced up to 10 million people that are living in these horrible conditions. The government denies them, the UN denies them. So I've been investigating this and producing a documentary film. In the midst of that, I connected with a fellow who ends up, he's the government's top spin doctor, international political, and on the surface he acted like he was helping me with this, but it never went anywhere. When the news started to break in the mainstream about the Nigerian Christian genocide. In September, this fellow reached out to me and asked me to come and do a fact finding tour. And I knew up front that this was, he wanted me to be the Jane Fonda of Nigeria. I don't know why he thought I would go along with that. And they paid my way. Nigerian government business class ticket, nice hotel. Got there after 30 hours travel. Thrust me in a room with three northern imams that are known to have terror ties. And for a photo op and then a live TV event. And then the next day, this big press conference. And up to the moment I opened my mouth, he thought I was going to say, there's no genocide. It was, I don't know why, but, you know, the truth is the truth. And I spoke it and thankfully had a waiting car to get me to the airport. And it blew up when I was over the Atlantic. Over 3 billion hits in 72 hours across all media. And it flipped the global narrative.

[Frank Gaffney]

And like I said, Mike, if I may, I just want to say thank you for being with us today and for this incredible witness to what has happened there. And specifically, could you just respond very directly? We've got about a minute and a half before we have to take a break to the proposition that if there is any kind of problem, it's just herdsmen that are having difficulties with farmers. This narrative has been persistent. It's been embraced by the US Government and many others, obviously promoted by the government of Nigeria. I, I, I think if, if they expected anything of you, it would be kind of an affirmation of that. The truth is different and you spoke it. But why is that narrative so persistent, sir?

[Mike Arnold]

Well, you ask any radical northern imam, they'll tell you it's a farmer herder conflict. I've heard it out of their mouth. The tribe that is driving the majority of this, if not all of it, is the Fulani tribe. They're not indigenous to Nigeria. They swept in from the Sahara with a Muslim horde, you know, in the 1100s to the 1300s, and started to take over. They are primarily a nomadic herding tribe, and the Christian settlers are primarily farmers. And so when these radical Fulani surround a village and burn it to the ground and kill everybody, that is technically farmers. I mean, herders clashing with farmers. But they're not yelling, where's my cow? They're yelling allahu Akbar when they do it. I mean, it's clearly a jihad, but they're just trying to, in these, in these benign terms so people won't pay attention.

[Frank Gaffney]

Yeah, Mike, I want to hear a bit more about this and why the persistence is so nefarious as well. We'll get to that and much more with Dede Logison and our marvelous team of experts on Nigeria. Stay tuned. We're back and we are doing a very special program. One of the features of Securing America, I'm proud to say, each week is a segment or two at the very minimum, with Dede Logison, our co host, for a review of what is happening to Christians around the world. She is the president of Save the Persecuted Christians, an incredible leader in this space, both here in the United States, but truly worldwide. And we're catching up with her in the aftermath of a very productive week of conversations and briefings and press conferences and the like at the International Religious Freedom Summit as well as the National Prayer breakfast in Washington, D.C. and DeeDee, we're going to turn to another guest who played an outsized role, as I understand it, in those programs, really bringing light to what is going on in Nigeria, especially to Christians there. Over to you.

[Dede Logison]

Thanks, Frank. Our next guest is Stephen Asamwege, who is the president of Save Nigeria Group out of Minnesota. So the Save Nigeria Group out of out of Minnesota has been hosting a number of different press conferences leading up to the IRF summit and then hosted a press conference at the summit with some 50 different organizations participating, all on camera and including Prophet Isa Buba, who is very well known in Nigeria and he is a Fulani Christian who spoke very strongly on the genocide that's happening now in Nigeria. Stephen, thank you so much. You have pulled together an enormous group, a coalition of people working on Nigeria. Tell us how that went at the summit and how you're feeling about the summit coming out of it and the prospects for things really changing on the ground in Nigeria, especially with President Trump's support.

[Stephen Osemigi]

Thank you very much, Didi. Thank you very much, Frank. Very delighted to be here. Like, you know, my name is Stephen Osemigi and president and founder of Save Nigeria Group. So this week has been one of the major week for us as a Nigerian American group because as a matter of fact, one of the challenges we've faced in the past with the genocide against Christians and other minorities in Nigeria is that the mainstream media had ignored this genocide for so long, laboring it as a climate change issue. And like Frank and Mike spoke earlier as a farmer herder clash. We want to thank President Trump and the US Administration and the Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other leaders that are calling it what it is. It is a genocide against Christians in Nigeria. So we were delighted to be part of the International Religious Freedom Summit. And thanks to Senator Sam Bramback for the invitation. In that summit, same Nigeria group was invited to speak on the breakout section on the situation in Nigeria. And on the sidelines, we had, like you mentioned, a major press conference where we had a special guest, Prophet Issa Eh Buba, one of the biggest voices in Nigeria who came all the way to participate at the International Religious Freedom Summit. And the central conversation in that press conference was what the Nigerian Christians are asking from the United States President Donald Trump and the American public. And what he said there, if I can reiterate, was that the Nigerian Christians are grateful to President Donald Trump and the American public for finally calling this crisis what it is, a targeted Christian genocide that has taken the lives of more than 300,000 people in the last 10 years. As, as a matter of fact, 11 million people are in displacement camps across Nigeria and neighboring countries. Just as an example, there are 120,000 Nigerians living in Northern Cameroon. They are from Gwoza, a Christian community. They've been displaced since 2009 and they are still in Northern Cameroon today. They can't come back to their country because radical Islamic terror, isis, Boko Haram and the Fulani militia has displaced them and hoist the ISIS flag. When you get there, they burn American flags. They are chanting death to America, death to Christians. And they give you two options, convert to Islam or die. And their version of Islam is the radical version. So Muslims are also being killed, not just even Christians. Any Muslims that do not agree with them are massacred. As an example, three days ago, these terrorists went to a community in Kwara state and they killed more than 177 people. Three days ago, what was the crime of this community? They killed three days ago those this community was a mix of Muslims and Christians. They killed everybody there. The reason was that they, they gave them a letter a month ago that they wanted the version of Sharia law to be practiced in that community. And according to the terrorists, they did not comply. So they came on motorbikes at AK47 and mow down men, women and children. Associated Press, Reuters and other media finally are reporting it. But when they caption the news, they say it is farmer header clash. It is bandits. No, it is a jihad. Their goal is to wipe out the more than 110 million Christians and other groups in Nigeria because this is their plan. So at the summit we were glad to be joined by Dee Dee Larson. George Saw of Equipping the persecutor and many other organizations. And we are building a coalition of Nigerian Americans, working with faith leaders and other groups like the summit organizers, to bring our voice to the American public to say we need help. Some things have happened. On Christmas Day 2025, President Trump ordered airstrikes against ISIS. That was a bold step. And we want to thank President Trump for finally taking action, because we've had hearings in the past and press conferences, but President Trump took action. What we are asking in that press conference is that, please, President Trump and the American government come and finish the job. You've started something good, but it's an opportunity to indeed take out the terrorists which are plaguing Nigeria. So I want to thank you for the opportunity to be here, Stephen.

[Frank Gaffney]

Thank you. And let me just ask you on that point, what would it take to finish the job? And how would you characterize the role that the government of Nigeria is playing in this genocide? If they are part of the problem, how do we get from where we are today to where we need to be in finishing this Christian genocide and the jihad that is animating it?

[Stephen Osemigi]

Thank you, Frank. To finish the job, it means to indeed take out the terror camps that are known. The Nigerian government has people sympathetic to the. Some of them in the government are sympathetic to the jihadist plan, so they are part of the government, but they.

[Dede Logison]

They.

[Stephen Osemigi]

They are closeted jihadists. But there's another faction of the Nigerian government that loves to work with America. For example, the US Nigerian Joint Working Group led by Under Secretary Alison Volker was just signed in Abuja two weeks ago. They want. The group that wants to end the terror in the government are willing to work with the United States. And I think that is an opportunity already. We heard two days ago that there are American booths already on the ground. We are asking to finish the job. The known locations of the terrorists need to be taken out. And I'm also appealing to the Nigerian government to invite the United States to set up a base of AFRICOM in Nigeria. Because right now, AFRICOM operates from Germany. Nigeria is the largest, most populous black nation and a regional powerhouse on the southern part of Nigeria. We are natural American allies. We speak English. Thanks to the British, we are Christians and we want to come to America. I live in America. My family, they always want to visit. We are natural US Ally. We do not want to be associated with the military movement of the Russian group in the Sahel region and the jihadist group. We want the US to be based in Nigeria, work with us invest in Nigeria in order to have a secured operation base to secure the region. That is how to finish the job. And lastly the what the U.S. yeah. Okay, I. I'll stop so far. Yeah, thank you.

[Frank Gaffney]

I want you to finish that point but I need you to do it in 10 seconds.

[Stephen Osemigi]

Yes. So lastly the the people in the United States have put sanctions thanks to Secretary Rubio on December 3rd sanctioning sponsors of the terror. We would want to appeal that the the bill before the Congress. Ted Cruz's bill should be passed by the Senate in order to codify law.

[Frank Gaffney]

Thank you, Stephen. We have to take a break. We'll be right back with much more with Dede Logison and our team of experts right after this. Stay tuned. Please. Welcome back to check the news.

[Social Media Commentator]

This girl was going full main character mode at the Las Vegas casino and it wasn't even noon yet. Part 1. I haven't watched this. Roll it. I love Las Vegas. I think I dated her years ago.

[Mike Arnold]

Jesus Christ is our Lord and savior.

[Social Media Commentator]

Anybody who comments from Mojana, you got a wife like that or dated someone like that emoji hand. I'm okay with that. If they're kicking you out, give a speech on the way out. I've done it. David said that's my third ex wife. I hear you. I mean it's 11am.

[Dede Logison]

Together.

[Stephen Osemigi]

We all won.

[Social Media Commentator]

And why are you wearing black on a sunny day before noon?

[Mike Arnold]

That's.

[Social Media Commentator]

Those are evening Coach. Yeah. Got some people that dated someone like that.

[Donald Trump]

Now she wants to fight.

[Social Media Commentator]

She's not done, folks. They're dragging her out now.

[Mike Arnold]

Let me.

[Social Media Commentator]

Let me ask the comments to guess. Do you think she's done now that they've dragged her out or do you think she's going to make an attempt to come back in? If you guessed attempt to come back in, you are correct. Part two.

[Frank Gaffney]

Oh, this comes.

[Social Media Commentator]

Come back in. Thanks, Dimitri. Just go. There's like 19 casinos in one walking distance. Just go to another one. She's been warned a lot of times.

[Dede Logison]

O.

[Social Media Commentator]

Take down.

[Donald Trump]

And I know when I see one.

[Frank Gaffney]

One.

[News Analyst]

There is no reason to hit a woman.

[Doug Burton]

And I was just like really?

[Stephen Osemigi]

I could give you like 17 right off the top of my head.

[Social Media Commentator]

Next. Representative Thomas Massie says United Arab Emirates billionaire Sultan sent torture video found in Epstein files. He looks like it. I've never seen a nerdy sheik. Looks like a guy from accounting at IBM just decided to convert to Islam. Next. He's been talking. This is why they didn't want to release the Epstein files. Because it's going to take down like a zillion people and I'm here for it. He's been talking about whether he gets into heaven almost nonstop lately. Roll it.

[Stephen Osemigi]

You had talked a couple weeks ago.

[Frank Gaffney]

You were doing an interview and you.

[Mike Arnold]

Talked about how you hope to end.

[Stephen Osemigi]

The war and you brain because it.

[Mike Arnold]

Might help you get into heaven.

[Stephen Osemigi]

How does, how does this help? Does this help?

[Donald Trump]

I mean, you know, I'm being a little cute. I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. Okay. I really, I think, I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly an Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven, but that's sad.

[Social Media Commentator]

Is that the old video or is that a new video? He's talking about it again. How old is that video? It just. It's a new video on X. Next. Don't miss a thing. Follow us. See, I don't advise this. If I were you, I wouldn't follow me on social media. But if you like ignoring instruction, there's all the places. I have a lot of fun on X. I don't know if you'll have fun reading it.

[Frank Gaffney]

Next.

[Social Media Commentator]

Trump on upcoming midterms. Roll it.

[Donald Trump]

Can you beat history on these midterm elections? Carry the House and the Senate for the gop? Can you do it on the economy? Do you need more communication? Do you need more marketing? Do you need more help? I mean, the numbers are on your side. The question is, does the public know this? Well, you know, we have a fake news that doesn't get the word out. That's why I love doing an interview.

[Social Media Commentator]

Pause.

[Donald Trump]

Get the word out.

[Social Media Commentator]

Real brother, friend of the show. I went on a date so horrific, I apologized to the waitress and told her I was so sorry she had to go through that. The woman grabbed my hands and said, no, I'm sorry you have to go through that. Wow, the woman took your side. He should have married her on the spot. The waitress.

[Doug Burton]

Keep going.

[Donald Trump]

But so you ask a question. In 50 years, a president that won, even a popular president, somebody that said, well, I'm popular and I've done well. I mean, I think we have the greatest economy actually ever in history. Now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. That's said by everybody. We have the hottest country in the world. I guess I have to sell that because we should win in a landslide and we'll do everything we can to do it.

[Social Media Commentator]

Next is Lamas Attempted to pray in public as a show of force in Sydney, Australia today. And the police cleared them out. Roll it.

[Stephen Osemigi]

Guys.

[Social Media Commentator]

What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Wow, Australia found their nut. Multiculturalism working out splendidly. Are you doing. Pause? I would be interested to know what the crime is. Can I get a grock? Hey, I saw footage of Muslims being arrested in Sydney, Australia and thrown around by the police for praying in public. What law, I'm curious, would they be breaking by praying in public?

[Researcher]

Checking recent arrests in Somalia for public prayer.

[Social Media Commentator]

No, not Somalia. Sydney, Australia. Got it.

[Researcher]

Looking into Australia public prayer rests. Yeah, that footage is from last night in Sydney, Feb. 9, 2026, during a big protest against Israeli President Isaac Herzog's visit. Thousands showed up at town hall, mostly pro Palestine folks. And things got heated fast with pepper spray arrests, the works. The specific bit you're talking about. A group of about a dozen Muslim men knelt down for evening prayer. Maghrib, I think. Right.

[Social Media Commentator]

I saw the footage. What law did they break?

[Researcher]

Checking the latest on that Sydney protest arrest. Reason? They weren't breaking any law specifically against praying in public. Australia protects religious freedom and public prayer. Happens without issue normally. What happened is the protest itself was in a restricted zone under the Major Events act declaration tied to the Public assembly restriction powers. For Herzog's visit, the NSW government classed it as a major event, giving police extra authority to close areas, issue, move on directions, search people and disperse crowds in the Sydney CBD and nearby southern states.

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Okay, I got it.

[Mike Arnold]

Thank you.

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Next. I can't remember what this is. Roll it.

[News Analyst]

We have some news right now. Howard Lutnick, Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary and Jeffrey Epstein had a business relationship that was previously unreported. And we now know from the Epstein files this was actually first caught by cbs. And let's look at these documents because this is significant. Especially since Howard Lutnick previously claimed after 2005 he would never step foot in a room with Jeffrey Epstein again because of how disgusting Epstein was. That's not true. We have the files to prove it. Here are two signature pages. On the left is Howard Lutnick's signature. On the right is Jeffrey Epstein's. This is from 2012. The two of them signed agreements to acquire stakes and in a now defunct advertising company. Yep, 2012. Seven years after Howard Lutnick said he was so disgusted he would never see Epstein again. But Aaron, he's not in the same room as him. Okay, here's communication showing that Jeffrey Epstein had a five o' clock appointment with Howard Lutnick in 2011 for drinks. But Aaron, he may not have actually went here. Okay, here's an email between Matthew Gilbert and Leslie Groff. But look below, quote, good morning Howard. Jeffrey wished me to pass pass along this below to you. Nice seeing you.

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[News Analyst]

Keep the date December.

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Not often that you can diagnose a man with low testosterone just by looking at him. Continue.

[News Analyst]

4Th 2012 Trump's current commerce secretary has a lot of questions he needs to answer about this relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Especially after saying that he would never step foot in the same room as him, that he was so disgusted by him. But these documents prove otherwise. So let's see what happens. Spread the word, follow along for more.

[Social Media Commentator]

Not good for our friend Howard Lutnick. Next, horrendous crimes. Here's what people are protesting against, such as the distribution of child pornography, drug trafficking, burglary, fraud, human smuggling, even being in a gang like MS.13 or trend or being a known or suspected terrorist are considered non violent crimes by the media. Take Antonio Israel, la so Quintanilla. It was wanted back in El Salvador for aggravated homicide, extortion, possession of drugs.

[Frank Gaffney]

Thanks for watching.

[Stephen Osemigi]

Check the news.

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We'll be right back after these messages.

[Frank Gaffney]

We're back and Dede Logison and her trio of freedom fighters are wilhis and I'm going to press each of them into service to capture not only the experiences that they've shared with us and the insights, but also dede to talk about what President Trump having done some remarkable things, highly laudable things, specifically in Nigeria, but more generally on behalf of Christians being persecuted around the world, what he should know about what's happening on the ground in Nigeria and what he should be encouraged to do.

[Dede Logison]

Didi thank you, Frank. Stephen and Doug and Mike are uniquely positioned to give us their perspective on what President Trump can do in this regard. Mike, let's go to you first. Your recommendations.

[Mike Arnold]

Well, I'm on a small working group with Ambassador Brownback and we've put forth the list of policy recommendations. My initiative has made it to number one on that list and that is focus on the displaced. They can throw smoke in the air and, and muddy the water about what's happening in the north and who's shooting who. But they cannot deny the displace. There's 10 up to 10 million. There's no, there's no, no number. They acknowledged 3 to 4 million of them. These are the living victims and these are a ticking time bomb. There's open doors says between 50 and 60% are liable to be radicalized. That's 5 to 6 million more jihadis by 2030 with, you know, this, the machinery of the nation at their command.

[Frank Gaffney]

If we're not radicalized into Islam in the first place. And then into jihad.

[Mike Arnold]

Yeah, exactly. And so an IDP census, international, above reproach. Let's get in there and let's find out the reality. Because the intentional denial of aid to IDPs in this scenario constitutes genocide. And we need to get to the bottom of that.

[Frank Gaffney]

We need to move along. Thank you, Mark.

[Dede Logison]

Steven, back to you.

[Stephen Osemigi]

Thank you very much for the opportunity. What I want President Trump and the American public to know is that my home country of Nigeria toiled with allowing radical Islam. They bring in imams that even Saudi Arabia will not allow. They welcomed them in Nigeria and today we are facing a jihad. We are facing broad daylight violence. America must be warned. You cannot tolerate, you cannot accommodate Sharia and their violence. Stand for the right Judeo Christian culture of America protected. The UK is already far gone. If you tolerate these groups, they first start when they have minority. They are very peaceful, they are very nice. But once they start expanding and breeding and using their tactics, they get funding from countries like Iran and the rest of the. They will take over your cities. You know what is happening in Nigeria, it can happen in America. What I would like President Trump to do is to not just listen to the very good lobbyists like the DCI. $9 million that the Nigerian government has spent to lobby and change the narrative in D.C. send delegations to Nigeria. Like my brother Mike Arnold has said, go to the camps yourself. Send a team. Because the truth is, what is happening in Nigeria requires US audience attention. And we want you to please focus on the internally displaced. 85% of them are Christians and they are counting on President Trump and the Americans to save them.

[Frank Gaffney]

Could I just say to Steve, thank you not only for the clarity of that message, but also for what you're doing to bring together the Nigerian American community behind all this kind of effort. It's long seemed to me this is desperately needed and hopefully it will help ensure that the the words you're speaking will get to President Trump. Didi, back to Doug.

[Dede Logison]

Yep, over to Doug.

[Doug Burton]

Well, frankly, there is a jihadist faction within the government of Nigeria itself. They don't control everything and they can be removed. This government is playing a dual role. However, the United States can do a lot by engaging with the people who are trying to solve the problem, who are in the government. One thing we've Got to be aware of. It's crucial is that the US Government and its intelligence agencies and the Department of State currently are not investigating the key group that is part of the jihadism and the killing of Christians and that is the Fulani ethnic militia. The high officials in these agencies do not have a operational directive to investigate the Fulani ethnic militia because the government of Nigeria doesn't want it because these people are represented at the cabinet level. But this has to be done because most of the Christians who are killed every year are killed by Fulani ethnic militias. So the forces agreement between the United States and Nigeria has to change. By the way, this government can change. They're going to face elections, presidential elections in 2027. Of course there will be an effort to rig the election. All Nigerian elections suffer attacks of rigging. However, they're so big they can't be completely rigged. The popular vote is still extremely important. And Nigerian citizens will be standing in line sometimes all night long on the day of the presidential elections because they want a government that is accountable to them. So the role of the United States is to support the zealous pro democratic voters in Nigeria and the diaspora of Nigerians in the United states, which is 1 million people. They got to stand up and they need to make their voices heard.

[Dede Logison]

Yeah, Doug, I think it's important that we understand that it was the capture of the Nigerian political administration that has enabled the jihad in Nigeria to get as bad as it has. President Muhammadu Buhari, which preceded President Tinubu, he had eight years in office and he filled every administrative post, the judicial branch and other and the security agencies with Fulani leaders. And so you have Fulani leadership for all the way down top to bottom in the government. And that's what's now happening in the United States as they bring in their Sharia compliant politicians. Then Sharia starts being enforced upon populations that are not Islamic. And that is what we are fighting against here in the United States.

[Frank Gaffney]

Didi. That's a perfect segue to our next block, our final segment of this very, very important conversation. Not only does Nigeria matter because of its strategic importance in the most arguably dynamic continent in the world, but also because what is being done there will be done here because the same jihadists are following the same playbook and we're fighting it in Texas. And we're going to talk more about that with Mike Arnold, former mayor of Blanco, Texas and our other guests on the other side of this short break. Stay tuned for it, please. It's urgent. Welcome back for this final installment of an incredibly informative and very compelling conversation about the persecution of Christians happening on an unprecedented scale. No crime against humanity has remotely compared to what is being done to 380 million plus Christians. And those are just the heavily persecuted ones around the world. Our co host, Dede Logison, has assembled a remarkable cast of experts and freedom fighters and we're going to take stock with them about something that I'm now located in the state of Texas to try to help contend with, which is the effort to impose, or at least insinuate Sharia prior to imposing it in this state in the expectation, the jihadist expectation, that if they do win in Texas, they will win across the United States. We are fighting this with everything we've got. I encourage everyone listening to go to bansharia.com not only to learn about the importance of this fight, but what you can do to help with it and not least, how you could contribute to make our campaign to save Texas, Save America, impactful. Billions of dollars have been spent by our enemies to take Texas and the rest of our country. We're inviting you to spend $10, 10 for Texas. We have an initiative there at the donate button on bansharia.com please check it out. Dede, talk to us a little bit about what's happening here and why this is so important. You're in Texas as well now. Praise God.

[Dede Logison]

I am in Texas, Frank. I have a guest who is a Christian convert from Islam who is an English citizen. He is hunted and in hiding in his homeland. So we've brought him to Texas to be able to tell his story and tell about the harms that Islam has brought to him because he's not allowed to choose his own faith as an English citizen. He has been denied access to churches by the bishops on the ground. And the police cannot protect him. And they will not protect him. They just tell him, don't associate him with others like you. And it's important for people to.

[Frank Gaffney]

He was very nearly killed.

[Dede Logison]

He was very nearly killed. Yes, absolutely. So it's very important for people who maybe don't live in Texas to understand what's happening on the ground here. Saudi Arabia, the uae, Qatar, Turkey, they are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into the state of Texas to stand up mosques. The Islamic community in Texas has grown by just. It's just exploding. And they even tried to stand up Epic City, which was going to be a community run under Sharia law. So the people of Texas, they're still trying. The people of Texas have responded to this by putting Proposition 10 up for a special election on March 3rd with early voting opening on February 17th. So it's really important that. Yes, and if they can do it in Texas, they'll do it everywhere. So over to Mike to tell us what. What are the. The fears in Texas about Sharia and why should people vote yes on Proposition 10?

[Mike Arnold]

Well, thank you very much. What I've seen in Nigeria. Nigeria is like a petri dish. If you take radical Islam. Islam. And put it in what should be a secular democracy and let it go unfettered, what does it become? And it becomes genocide. It becomes slaughter. It's totalitarian. Islam is not just a faith. It is a system. It's an ideology. People need to understand that not all jihadis come with a mask and a machete. They come with smiles and promises and political handouts and. But it's all part of the same. It's extremely well coordinated, extremely sophisticated, extremely well funded, and it's held on to. To death. I mean, it's their. It's. They believe that's how they get to heaven. And so they actually, absolutely are 100% intent on conquest. Putting a black flag over the Texas capitol. And so we might see a mosque here or, you know, a little Sharia office there or community there as isolated things. They see it as a strategic inroads and beachheads and milestones for conquest. And if we don't see it that way and approach it that way, we are doomed like Great Britain.

[Frank Gaffney]

Amen. Mike, thank you so much. Should we go to Stephen next? Quickly?

[Stephen Osemigi]

Yeah. Thank you. The lady named Deborah Samuels was in a higher institution in Sokoto, Nigeria, and someone accused her falsely of blasphemy. Her colleagues, her classmates, dragged her out, danced her in patrol, and set her on fire because they falsely claimed that she criticized the holy prophet. That is what Sharia means. And I want to appeal to the people of Texas to vote yes and stop Sharia in Texas. Because what we saw In Nigeria in 1999, the President Obasanjo of that time allowed 12 states of the north to practice Sharia. And they said it was only just for Muslims. Guess what? This. The law now applies to everybody in the state. They destroy businesses that they don't agree with. They stone people to death. They. They. They burn people on the street. And as a matter of fact, in the state of Yobe on January 1 this year, they said male and female cannot talk to each other in the public. That is what Sharia is. I want to warn the people of Texas, if you don't want what's happening in Nigeria to happen here in America. Vote yes.

[Frank Gaffney]

And you know specifically that it can happen here because you live in Minnesota and you're seeing it around you in the Somalia party in particular. Thank you, Stephen, so much. Finally, Doug Burton, your thoughts quickly on the fight here in America now against Sharia.

[Doug Burton]

Frank It's a civilizational fight all over the world. It's not just Nigeria. It's all over the world. I just want to. Just want to chime in on what Stephen said. Deborah Emanuel's. Deborah Yakubu's full name is Deborah Deborah Emanuel. I got a prize for reporting her tragic murder. She is. She's a martyr for this. What we have to do is realize that Sharia is being enforced in Nigeria. The 160 people who were killed on February 3 in Kwara State, they were faced with a choice to accept this new preaching in Sharia or there would be consequences. And the consequences was a mass slaughter of 160 people. There is nothing, there is nothing that will stop this kind of slaughter to be extended into the surrounding countries around Nigeria. All the countries neighboring Nigeria have Islamist insurgencies. And if insurgency conquers the state in Nigeria, it will spread.

[Frank Gaffney]

We have to leave it at that. Thank you, Doug, Stephen and Mike, as well as Dede Logison. God bless you all in your important work. Keep it up. Come back to us with updates and help us ban Sharia in the state of Texas. Vote yes on Proposition 10 on March 3rd. God bless you all. Come back soon if you would, next time. Until then, go forth and multiply.

[Dede Logison]

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[Frank Gaffney]

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