SEN. ERIC SCHMITT & DR. MATTHEW MEHAN ON AMERICA'S FUTURE, POLITICS, PRINCIPLES | CHARLIE KIRK SHOW

Summary

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Episode Title: Sen. Eric Schmitt & Dr. Matthew Mehan on America's Future, Politics, Principles
Date: May 21, 2026
Guests: Dr. Matthew Meehan (Hillsdale College, Author), Mitchell Brown (Signal Polling), Mike Davis (Article 3 Project)

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Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show dives deep into recent American political shifts, analyzing the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) 2024 “autopsy” report, Republican strategy, the aftermath of major legislative changes, and cultural renewal through storytelling. The episode highlights the perceived resurgence of American strength and values under President Trump’s administration, the importance of effective political messaging, anti-fraud efforts, and the necessity of fostering patriotism among the next generation. Special guests include pollster Mitchell Brown, legal analyst Mike Davis, and Dr. Matthew Meehan, whose new book on American fables seeks to restore national gratitude and purpose.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The DNC 2024 “Autopsy” Report and Democrat Disarray

• Release and Reception:
  The long-withheld DNC autopsy report was suddenly made public, marked by spelling errors and contradictions. Critics assert it reflects deep organizational dysfunction.

  • “It seems the reason, the biggest reason they didn’t want to release it is it seems really bad. In fact, they’re releasing it with an apology.” — Blake (15:50)

• Failure to Address Critical Issues:
  The report is faulted for omitting explanations for major 2024 decisions—Kamala Harris becoming the nominee without a primary, Biden’s dropout, etc. (15:12)

• State Party Neglect and Grassroots Collapse:
  Democrats are criticized for shifting funds away from Obama-era grassroots organizing, compared unfavorably to the GOP’s rebuild of local party structures.

  • “They admit they have pulled money from Obama era grassroots efforts and now they’re paying for it at the ballot box.” — Charlie Kirk (18:52)

• Turning Point Action’s Strategy:
  Kirk and cohosts boast of replicating and surpassing former Democratic grassroots best practices, crediting innovation and sustained local investment for Republican gains.

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2. GOP Growth, Messaging, and the State of American Politics

• GOP’s Steady Ascendancy Since 2009:
  The episode details how Republicans have overtaken Democrats in Senate, House, governorships, state legislatures, and “trifectas” since 2009.

  • “Senators, R +13. Congress, R +41. Governors, R +5. State legislators, R + almost 1,000. State trifectas, R +13.” — Charlie Kirk (30:08, 32:14)

• Toughness and Social Issues:
  The GOP is portrayed as drastically more combative compared to past decades, claiming victories on contentious social issues like transgender policy.

  • “Every single social issue, basically going back to 1960, it was some slow frog boil to where the left would win. And this is a case where they actually tried hard and they got smacked in the face and the public said no.” — Blake (32:14)

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3. Economic Reality, Political Messaging, and Voter Concerns

• Affordability and Inflation:
  Mitchell Brown (Signal Polling) outlines that the chief voter concern remains high prices and cost of living, especially in swing states.

  • “The main issue here was one that they didn’t address… it was that issue of prices.” — Mitchell Brown (40:00)
  • “People need to be heard… these swing voters… thought their life was easier and cheaper in 2019 than it was in ‘24.” — Mitchell Brown (43:42)

• Republican Strategy for 2026:
  Caution is urged against telling voters “everything’s great” too soon:

  • “Are we at risk of repeating the same mistake the Democrats made [by] telling our voters everything’s great, you’re living in the golden age and you’re richer than ever?” — Charlie Kirk (43:39)

• Micro-Targeted Messaging:
  Effective GOP candidates must localize and personalize messages (healthcare, tariffs, economic recovery) to persuade the diverse 2026 electorate. (47:02-48:05)

• Tariffs and the Iran War:
  Tariff policy and foreign engagements, especially the recent Iran war, have measurable impact on polling and voter satisfaction in critical swing states. (48:31)

  • “Those states that have been traditionally Trumpian voters who… have felt some of this brunt at home now.” — Mitchell Brown (48:31)

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4. Fraud, Accountability, and Governance

• DOJ Crackdown on State Medicaid Fraud:
  Breaking news of mass indictments in Minnesota over Medicaid fraud is hailed as a major Trump administration anti-fraud initiative, aiming to restore integrity to social programs.

  • “We are announcing criminal charges against 15 defendants in Minnesota for fraud schemes that targeted over $90 million in taxpayer dollars.” — Assistant AG Colin McDonald (74:16)

• Political Implications and Investigations:
  The segment ties alleged political protection of fraudsters to prominent Democratic figures, notably Rep. Ilhan Omar and MN Governor Tim Walz.

  • “It’s just not believable that Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz did not, at a minimum, know about this widespread fraud.” — Mike Davis (80:55)

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5. Restoring Patriotism Through Cultural Renewal

• Dr. Matthew Meehan’s 'American Book of Fables':
  With America’s 250th birthday approaching, Meehan joins to discuss his new book blending nursery rhymes, fables, and founding documents to inspire American gratitude and patriotism. (102:07)

  • “For our 250th, this is a 395-page hardback heirloom coffee table [book] with tons of illustrations… nursery rhymes, fables, and stories help to explain the Declaration and the American way of life.” — Dr. Matthew Meehan (103:07)

• Patriotism, Gratitude, and Upbringing:
  Direct instruction, engagement with history, and local stories are urged to inculcate love of country in young people.

  • “Kids need to learn the Pledge of Allegiance… stop at the roadside historical marker and just read… that’s part of patriotism too.” — Dr. Meehan (106:00)

• Live Reading – “American Morning”:
  Meehan reads an original poem reflecting on America’s journey, urging a grateful, forward-looking optimism:

  • “If we could do what our fathers did before, then what on earth would we be grateful for? The sun now shines on us to play our part as holy as we orient our heart.” — Dr. Meehan (117:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “They admit that they have pulled money from Obama era grassroots efforts, and now they're paying for it at the ballot box.” — Charlie Kirk (18:52)
• “GOP: R +13 senators, R +41 Congress, R +5 governors, R + almost 1,000 state legislators, R +13 state trifectas since 2009.” — Charlie Kirk (30:08, 32:14)
• “This is the golden age, he says…get ready for an incredible future because the golden age of America has only just begun.” — Charlie Kirk quoting President Trump (08:01)
• “Patriotism is not just fife and drum, Revolutionary War and the Founding Fathers. The full virtue of patriotism…is every one of your fellow citizens who came before.” — Dr. Matthew Meehan (106:20)
• “If the Supreme Court actually has the courage to follow the law…This is such an easy question. We did not fight a civil war and grant birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists.” — Mike Davis (92:20)
• “Each line of [American Morning]…is a part of the steps of our history all the way up through the space race.” — Dr. Meehan (119:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic Highlight / Quote | |-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:02 | Opening: National resurgence under Trump, celebration of American workers | | 12:48 | Introduction to the DNC autopsy report | | 18:52 | Kirk on DNC’s admission of grassroots neglect | | 27:28 | Discussion of Turning Point USA in the DNC report | | 30:08–32:14 | Breakdown of GOP political gains since 2009 | | 40:00 | Mitchell Brown: DNC’s campaign failures and economic realities in swing states | | 43:42 | Empathy-first messaging: “People need to be heard…” — Mitchell Brown | | 48:05 | Impact of tariffs and Iran war on midwestern voters | | 55:07 | Young voters and antiwar sentiment after Iran conflict | | 74:16 | DOJ press conference: Fraud indictments in Minnesota | | 92:20 | Mike Davis on SCOTUS and birthright citizenship | | 102:07 | Introduction and overview of the American Book of Fables with Dr. Meehan | | 117:04 | Live reading: "American Morning" poem | | 120:35 | Reflection on patriotism, hope, and America’s future | | 123:54 | Closing encouragement to spread gratitude and patriotism through Meehan’s new book |

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Conclusion

This episode painted a portrait of a pivotal time in American politics, contrasting the Republican party’s claimed organizational successes with Democratic Party struggles and analyzing the primary issues gripping everyday Americans: affordability, cultural identity, and effective government. The conversation stresses the war for information and values, warning against overconfidence, and concludes with a hopeful, culture-changing vision for America’s 250th birthday, anchored in gratitude, history, and optimism.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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Somebody appears on the scene and everything changes.

[Charlie Kirk]

I am with you.

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We've never seen anything like this.

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I will fight for you. This was a man who's met his destiny.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

And I will win for you.

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He said he was saved by God

[Mike Davis]

in order to make America great again.

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His victory was the greatest comeback of all time.

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They're watching history, so buckle up.

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I don't think the American people have

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ever seen this before.

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A government that has moved this quickly

[Charlie Kirk]

and a president that has done so

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much when it comes to the border

[Charlie Kirk]

and energy and major investments from other countries.

[Blake]

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snapping Change to Washington, overwhelming the system

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with a volcanic eruption of action.

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Trump has a mandate from the people

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and he's using it. And they're just getting started.

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President Trump said on the campaign trail. Success will be my retribution.

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Despite the best efforts of those who would try to censor us, silence us, break us, destroy us, Americans are today a proud, free, sovereign and independent nation that will always be free. We're going to have one shot at this and no other president is going

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to do what I'm doing.

[Charlie Kirk]

America's back. Common sense is back. He is keeping his promise to you, the American people. Inflation is down.

[Mitchell Brown]

Growth is up.

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The numbers don't lie.

[Blake]

The economy is soaring.

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men and women in the United States military.

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This is a message to the rest of the world.

[Mike Davis]

The days of ripping off America and Americans are officially over.

[Charlie Kirk]

Between the attacks on Iran's nuke site and the Maduro operation, the US military recruitment at an all time high, this President will go down in history as a peacemaking president. Peace through strength. America is in charge and he's just got one filter and that is America first. Whatever they're doing, it's working. Zero illegal crossing, drug cartels, frustrated, less crimes. We have the most secure border in the history of this nation. If you think we're doing good now, you just wait for this coming year. The President isn't taking his foot off the gas in 2026. It's a new year. The stock markets are already making new record highs. The Trump archives are a series of near impossible feats as for the next year. The American people have so much to look forward to. The President will continue to build off of his historic accomplishments.

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2025 was setting the table that the

[Charlie Kirk]

banquet's going to be in 2020 26.

[Terrance Bates]

This is the golden age, he says

[Charlie Kirk]

make America great again because every American is invited. My fellow Americans, get ready for an incredible future because the golden age of America has only just begun.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

America, America.

[Charlie Kirk]

God shed his grace on. The.

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All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is May 21, 2026. We're here at the Y Refi Studios live in Phoenix, Arizona, and honored to be with you all. Looks like President Trump is conducting a press gaggle inside the Oval Office after signing an executive order reducing regulations on refrigerant and other cooling that they claim is going to save American taxpayers $2.4 billion. Which would be great. We're going to continue on. The big story of the news this morning, however, is that the dnc, led by DNC chair Ken Martin, has released their long awaited secret autopsy report. And boy, it's a doozy. It's a lot of fun, right? Word for it. Yeah. I think Blake's least favorite headline that Republicans are probably guilty of falling into is Democrats in disarray. Because it can often be hope and hopium and cope. But today it's really true. And so we're going to just have a lot of fun diving into this autopsy report. Now, of course, 2024, President Trump shellacked. In their own words, the Democrats, they lost every single swing state, wasn't even close. And they are trying to now do a postmortem, an autopsy on a dead body. That's what you do with an autopsy, obviously. And it looks like it's rife with errors, spelling errors, this sort of thing. Now, if you go back in time, Ken Martin was refusing to release this autopsy report. He claimed it was not ready for prime time. So let's take you back memory lane and show you a clip of this SOT3.

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And you've got this autopsy on the Democratic side that's never been made public

[Charlie Kirk]

on 2024 and everything that went wrong. Will you ever release that autopsy?

[Mike Davis]

We did hundreds of interviews with people to really get a sense of what happened not only in 2024, but with the Democratic Party for the last 20 years. And the point of that was to

[Charlie Kirk]

learn the lessons that can help him form the future election.

[Mike Davis]

We have an authoritarian in the White House right now. And what I've always said is none

[Charlie Kirk]

of us have a time machine.

[Mike Davis]

We can't go back and change the past. And so trying to relitigate the 2024

[Charlie Kirk]

election takes us away from actually our

[Mike Davis]

focus on 2026 and 2028.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that's their whole shtick here, is that it was going to be distracting. It was going to be a bad move for the party to look backwards. They wanted to look to the future. Ken Martin, obviously, spinning, spinning, spinning. But what's also notable here is that this has been released without an executive summary. There are annotations throughout that contradict the findings or say that there's no data to back it up. And it doesn't go into a couple of key topics, namely, how was Kamala Harris selected as the nominee without a primary, how was Joe Biden's debate performance done, and why did he ultimately drop out? All of that is missing.

[Blake]

Yeah, I mean, it's very funny about it, is it's kind of vindicated, not wanting to release it because it seems the reason, the biggest reason they didn't want to release it is it seems really bad. In fact, they're releasing it with an apology. So Martin, he actually said this is a statement. He has said, this does not meet my standards and it won't meet your standards. But I am doing this because people need to be able to trust the Democratic Party and trust our word. And if you go through it, there's actually just clown show mistakes in this. So, for example, they kind of do. The report includes this extended history of American politics from 2008, when Obama got elected, to the present. And in the 2022 election, it goes on this digression about the Senate race in Georgia, that was the Herschel Walker one went to a runoff and Herschel Walker lost. And it says it's bashing the Republican campaign here some reason. And it says this was a blatant attempt by the Republican power base to take advantage of name recognition and a tough economy to push through an unqualified candidate whose job would have been little more than rubber stamping the President's agenda. And CNN has a helpful annotation here. In 2022, Joe Biden was president and there's mistakes like this throughout. They'll just, it'll throw out these assertions and it's antated. There's no data to back this up. This contradicts claims elsewhere in the report. And when you dive into seems that this report was done by Paul Rivera, a veteran Democrat strategist, but apparently he hadn't worked on a presidential campaign in at least 20 years and he worked on this part time. So this was a lazy half done job by a guy who's been out of the game. And so if you go through it, the report, it's, it feels like an AI could have generated this like give me a plausible Democrat defeat autopsy and you know, just throw in whatever.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and it would have been done without the spelling errors, which is noteworthy. Let's go ahead and play. This is Ms. Now they're trying to break down the report as it's come out again. It's only been out for a couple of hours here. CNN had to cajole and basically do some actual reporting here to get this. They got the majority of the findings. So the DNC was sort of backed up against a wall, forced to release it, apologized for the way they handled it. I mean it's all the disarray is disarranging all over the place and it's glorious to watch. Sat 6 they argue that the reduction

[Mitchell Brown]

in support for and training for state parties has contributed to a shift in voter registration issues, organizing capacity for the state at the state level and persistent problems with their candidates to listen to voters. They also also say that regaining trust

[Charlie Kirk]

and confidence in the party where voters

[Mitchell Brown]

have an affirmative reason to support Democrats will take a comprehensive strategy and considerable

[Charlie Kirk]

effort over multiple cycles.

[Mitchell Brown]

So this is not some sort of short term, short term change they're seeing here saying that Democrats need to do it right now because the future could become even more difficult.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, so let me sum that up for you. According to the DNC's own disastrous after action report this autopsy. They admit that they have pulled money from Obama era grassroots efforts and now they're paying for it at the ballot box. They literally said lasting repercussions. So I just want to compare and contrast, compare that to what we've been doing at Turning Point Action. We literally went Back to the 2008 literature from the Democrats. We took their best practices that they've been building up over those years. This grassroots, low propensity voter outreach, turn out the vote. We call it ballot chasing Attorney point action. We rebuilt all of their systems and deployed them in states like Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan. Now we're doing it in Nevada, we're doing it in New Hampshire. So we've been building up the infrastructure that they bailed on and they went full national apparatus and they stopped investing at the state level and their messaging was all over the place. Right. So they lost trust here and there. This is, this is what I was trying to tell people. It's like we looked at this report this morning, the team, and they're like, we know all this stuff already. What's the big deal? And I was like, you have to understand, Democrats have an averse relationship with the truth. They don't like it, they like to spin. They don't want to admit to their far left activist base where they get all their energy from that they have been basically sucked down a rabbit hole of far left social issues. And one of the admissions in this report is that the they them ad worked on really, really well from President Trump. We knew that because Kamala Harris wanted to give, you know, prisoners sex change operations for on the tax taxpayers dime. That stuff we already knew. But you gotta understand, the left doesn't want to be honest with their own activist base and they don't wanna be honest about where the money went because there's a lot in the report that says there was misallocation of funds. But here's the thing, to Blake's point, it's an awful report. It's done poorly. There's. They can't even get their story straight when they're trying to lie. And that's ultimately why Ken Martin didn't want to release this disaster, this flaming heap of garbage. Anyways, Dems are in disarray. It's glorious. We're going to continue going through it. But first. Oh, I got one right here I want to tell you about. Strong Cell strongcell.com this stuff is an amazing breakthrough. Charlie, I'll never forget. I've told the story before, but I'll tell it again, travel all around the country with them. And you folks, you good folks out there would say, does it really work? Do you really love it? And Charlie would say, yes, I really do love it. It was one of his favorite supplements. Dr. Oz says it has some of the best metrics when it comes to healthy aging and longevity. But more than that it'll help cure certain different things that you might be experiencing right now. At least that's been my experience. I think it'll be yours as well. You owe yourself to give it a try. At the very least, give it four to six weeks to work to get its full impact and I believe that you're gonna see the breakthroughs you've been wanting and for. So go to strongcell.com promo code charlie for 20% off and a 90 day risk free money back guarantee so there's no risk in trying it. Give yourself the boost of nadh, the enzyme that makes it all possible. Power yourselves. We'll be right back.

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[Martha Stewart]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mitchell Brown]

I found something.

[Blake]

I, I decided to just check it. Did you know we're in this report.

[Charlie Kirk]

What?

[Blake]

We're in this report.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, good.

[Blake]

Turning. So they're kind of complaining how Democrats need to change their engagement, their strategy. And it basically goes the party they're talking about. Democrats has to decide whether it will continue to rely on the tactic of dropping people into states as opposed to hiring locally. It's easier and cheaper for some to develop and deploy seasonal talent, even if it puts Democrats in a situation where cycle after cycle campaigns and parties have to find new people to go work the same turf instead of teaching people within the community and funding and empowering them to organize their neighbors year round. The Republicans do this differently. Turning Point USA is not a seasonal churn and burn ecosystem. They run programs around the calendar and across the nation and then they blast Koch funded entities. Which, man, I feel like that's a blast from 2010 that shows that this

[Charlie Kirk]

guy's like not in the game. Yeah, yeah, but that's, hey, that's great. We'll take it. There is this brutal report in the, in this autopsy and I just sent it to the team, so give them a second to get it up. But if you look at. So, so, so there's a lot of doom and gloom. Okay. There's a lot of people that are upset about this Massey stuff. There's a lot of people upset about Iran still have affordability issues. You know, President Trump made a promise that has been often mocked, but he'll go back to it. And that said, he said you'll get so sick of winning that you'll not know what to do with it. There'll be so much winning, you'll get sick of winning. And oftentimes when you're in the day to day, you don't feel that. But when you zoom out like the Democrats did and you realize just how much they have lost politically since 2009, it becomes fairly awe inspiring. What we've been able to accomplish by being innovative, by being pioneering, by being driven out of the mainstream institutions, mainstream media and building our own ecosystems, shows like this institutions like Turning Point, we've accomplished a lot. And this graph is absolutely brutal if you're a Democrat. So if you go back to 2009 and I'm just taking this straight from their autopsy, they had a 6040 advantage when it came to senators in Congress they were 256 to 178 governors. They had 28 Democrat governors to 22 Republicans. State legislature legislators, they had 4,082 Dems to 3,223 Republicans. And state trifectas where they control the governorship in both houses. I don't know if that would include judicial branch in that.

[Blake]

Usually it means both houses of the

[Charlie Kirk]

state legislature and the governorship. Yeah, the Governor's mansion they had 17, Republicans only had nine and then 23 split. And so fast forward to 2025. We have a six seat advantage in the Senate. So we have changed R plus 13 senators since 20 2009. We have a five seat advantage in the House and that means since 2009 it's R plus 41 seats we have. When it comes to governors, we now have a three seat advantage which means we've gone R +5 when it comes to state legislatures. I'll avoid the minutia and just say we've gained 800, almost 1,000 state legislators in that time. And then state trifectas were R +13, which is tremendous. We went from 9 to 22 where we can control both houses and the governorship. So that's R plus 13. That is a massive improvement over the Obama wave. And if you think back, Charlie was inspired to start Turning Point USA when he was a teen in Chicago watching the Obama mania sweep across his generation. And that's the result of all of our efforts and all of our labors. And President Trump. And this is the thing, President Trump does stuff every day. I mean, look, I'll give you guys a little insight here. He does stuff every day that drives me nuts. But I love the guy because he reinstilled the fighting spirit in the Republican base, in the activist base. Part of this was the Tea Party movement. We gotta give some credit to the Ron Pauls and the Tea Party leaders of the time. But President Trump took the baton and ran with it. And fought back like we've never seen any conservative modern American politics fight back, at least since Reagan. And look at the fruit of our work. Throw that graph up again. Senators, R13. R plus 13. Congress, R plus 41. Governors, R plus 5. State legislatures, legislators, R plus almost 1,000. Yeah, it's state trifectas. R plus 13. Yeah.

[Blake]

And some of that's, you know, it's even gone backwards, too. I think we were peaking. I think we had, you know, if there's 22 trifectas, I think we had 30 or 31 trifectas at the absolute peak. But really, yeah, we got really high at some points because we've lost a little ground in some of those in, like, Michigan. I don't think we have it anymore. We don't have as many governors as we used to, but yeah, it's such a different situation on the ground. We've rebuilt so many state parties to be much more. They have more of a killer instinct, they're much more combative. And it's not even just that we control more offices. I feel like we're so much better at getting Republicans at the state level to achieve things. This redrawing the districts that we've been doing across the south and in Texas and in Florida, that would not have happened 20 years ago. Getting everyone lined up to pass things like we've got constitutional carry in so many states. We're getting states to pass those education tax credits and vouchers and also a lot of great pro life legislation. We're getting stuff done in politics that just. The Republicans used to be these huge wimps who would not do these things. They have learned to fight so much harder. And of course, the transgenderism thing, I think that's one of the best examples. Every single social issue, basically going back to 1960, it was some slow frog boil to where the left would win. And this is a case where they actually tried hard and they got smacked in the face and the public said no, and they. And they rolled it back. Yeah, that's tremendous.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're absolutely right. I mean, you know, the old adage that Republicans are just Democrats five years you know, back, we're just. We're just a little bit behind them. That has changed. That has changed. You look at Matt Walsh, what is a woman. The taking down of the transgender insanity. We haven't seen that. That's new. Have hope we can get things done. You can just do things sometimes. We'll be right back with Mitchell Brown from Signal Polling. We'll be right back.

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[Mitchell Brown]

And well, how are you guys doing?

[Charlie Kirk]

Been traveling around doing polling for all of these campaigns all over the country. You're a busy man. So this autopsy report, I know you've been kind of going into it like all of us, diving into, what are the findings, big picture. What's your initial take?

[Mitchell Brown]

I mean, one, it's 18 months post election. They have an autopsy that's inconclusive, doesn't have a lot of actual findings there. You didn't need 18 months to do this. I could have given you this in two days. There's been a lot of central elements of why they lost. One of them is, again, just how the DNC is currently structured compared to the rnc. DNC doesn't invest a lot anymore in their state operations. And so it's this wide network of dark money that really isn't traceable, while RNC has money in their coffers and is developing a ground game to get out the vote and to register voters. So on a serious and practical note, that is one thing there. Secondary. Again, it's pretty simple to boil down what their mistakes were. One, I mean, I'm in Wisconsin right now. I'm doing focus groups here. A state that again, Trump carried in 24, carried in 16, despite Democrats thinking this one was in the bag. Again, the main issue here was one that they didn't address and that the current administration Trump team does need to get in front of now. And that was prices. I'm hearing that again today. The same thing that again caused a lot of these rust belt states to flip in 24. It was that issue of prices. Secondary one was just how the Biden team was talking about that and hold DNC ad hoc. They were talking basically yelling at people. No, actually, everything was great right now. Your life's not more expensive. Everything's going really, really well. Don't worry about it. The numbers tell us so. But third, I mean, we had an entire party that wasn't willing to admit they had someone with cognitive decline sitting in the Oval Office until the whole world got to see it on a debate stage and then post that, instead of saying, hey, we need to clean up our act, let's immediately get to a convention style process where people can have a vote. They said, you know what? No, we're gonna throw that away. We are kingmaker. Here is your selection a woman that no one really liked.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hmm. Yeah, that's pretty good analysis, I would say. Mitchell, you know, you bring up this affordability crisis like I guess the first thought that came to mind. Now I want to just state my beliefs, but then let's talk about the politics and the messaging of it. Now, my belief is that, listen, we had gas prices pretty down, pretty far down. And then the Iran war happened. That was a political and a policy choice that was made by the President. There's going to be political cost to it. Right, Just from price at the pump standpoint. But you had nearly 30% of inflation over four years with Joe Biden. Massive money printing. It was a theft from the working class. Absolutely made things more expensive. Getting access to the American dream, buying a home, starting a family, all of these things, healthcare costs, education costs. But these things don't happen and they don't turn on a dime. They happen over time, they happen over multiple policies, decisions. And we are still climbing out of what Biden did to us. Now, I understand that when you are a low information voter, and I don't mean that as a pejorative, but you're working, you're raising your family, you're dealing with your everyday things. You're not looking at this as closely as we are on this show and your instinct is to just blame whoever's in power. But there has been great strides made on slowing the rate of inflation. It's down in the 3% as opposed to the 9%. There has been great strides in affordability and rents. Rents have come down. But again, these things are like turning the Titanic. They're not going to happen overnight. Are we at risk? And so now let me get to my question. Are we at risk of repeating the same mistake the Democrats made in 2024 by telling our voters everything's great, you're living in the golden age and you're richer than ever? Your thoughts?

[Mitchell Brown]

Yeah, I mean, this is a common refrain that I go through with with most of our Statewide campaigns right now is to you have to one lead with understanding again. So whether these, again, the voters aren't going to right here to explain macroeconomics or what inflation is or these things, but it's a understanding, I get it, that things are still high, that there's work to be done. Here are some of the reasons why it's still that high. Here's what we're doing to address it. So it's not ignoring the issue and saying, no, everything's fine. It's, hey, there are some structural issues that we are addressing. Here is a plan I understand and we are working for. It's again, people need to be heard again, especially when you talk to even just young voters again, that what we talked about of the again, trying to eventually start a family, own a home, these things. Again, when the issue is, yes, we're having strong employment, but it's not really people that are excelling. That younger group of people is not hitting that job quality and that salary intake to start a family and have a home. They're seeing some of these lagging vectors there. So when we're talking to these people, it's one understanding what's going on in their view. Again, always talking about it from there. Again, if you look back at it, someone who was great at this, again, Bill Clinton was a master of empathy. Whether it was feigned or real empathy is he always led with that. And I think it's something that a lot of other people and a lot of Republicans need to understand for this election cycle to not be bashed over the head with that. Because, yes, there was a few 60, 40 social issues that helped Trump win, being one being immigration, one being anything involving children, transgender stuff, kids in, in sports, those two were pretty much 60, 40 issues. But other than that, these swing voters, and it all came down to they thought their life was easier and cheaper in 2019 than it was in 24. So we need to buy Election Day, convince them that it's still better right now in 26 than it was right before the election in 24.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And you think about the Democrats that, you know, I've seen some of the fallout here. Just their early reaction saying, hey, we've started to invest in state parties and we're messaging on affordability. The problem is, is that obviously, you know, I'm a conservative, Blake's conservative. I believe you're a conservative. So it's like, we know that their ideas simply don't work. You know, you can promise free grocery stores, but somebody's paying for that and is it really going to make a dent in the problem? You can promise rent control, but then you realize rent control ends up drying up supply on the market and causing all other types of structural problems. The way you unleash affordability is you increase competitiveness, you get rid of regulations, you let the free market do its thing, and then you stop flooding the market with illegals and millions of people that are sucking up housing supply. You've got structural issues that affect healthcare. Right. Trump RX is in the most favored nation status. These are things that will have a material impact on that. But the question is what's the way to message it? Because Democrats are gonna message on affordability, but we know that their ideas ultimately make matters worse. They proved that during the Obama year or the Biden years and in the Obama years. So the question is, okay, yeah, we can relate to your pain, but how do we educate you that the solutions, just cuz they're mentioning the magic word affordability doesn't mean they've got any ideas that are actually gonna address it.

[Mitchell Brown]

Yeah, I think it's twofold. There's one. You also have the problem set that Donald Trump is not on the ballot. And so there is a whole group of people who can even skip a lot of midterm elections that are Trump voters. They're a unique, younger, working class man. Again, especially like in Wisconsin where I'm now. So that group of people, you have to have the challenge of not just persuading and showing them what you're doing to help them, but even getting that group to the ballot box. And that's where other Republicans have always struggled compared to Trump, not having him in the ballots. One thing there, the other people, it's finding individual audiences. Okay, for all. Say if you're running a Senate race here in Wisconsin or gubernatorial in Michigan, you have to understand, okay, what group of people is responding to health care. That's where they're feeling the most micro targeting though. Yes, exactly. So, okay, the Trump RX message, okay, that has to be played to this audience. That's who they need to hear this. Because maybe they aren't aware of it or they haven't seen it where it is. It's meeting people where they are and addressing it on a localized level. And without Trump on the top of the ticket, localizing these elections, making it about their state and affordability that way is a much better option.

[Blake]

So we mentioned gas prices from Iran, but another driver of affordability issues is the impact of tariffs. President Trump obviously has some has a plan there, but it does raise prices, at least in the short term. How does that play into things? Do, would any adjustment to tariff policy possibly create that short term shift? That is what we're looking at.

[Charlie Kirk]

And how are tariffs playing out? How are they like, what do people think?

[Mitchell Brown]

A few states, it's troublesome. Iowa, again, I do a lot of work in Iowa and past 14 months, every time you're there, those targeted ads are about what tariffs are doing to farmers and what they're doing to people in Iowa. And so Iowa, again, there's going to be a swing state this year. Again, look at this. There's a very tough gubernatorial election there and a Senate race that's going to be much closer than it probably should be. That state, it's playing here in Wisconsin, it's also playing but again, these, these states that are again, have, have been traditionally Trumpian voters who felt like they were fighting for him have felt some of this brunt at home now. And without that quick adjustment before the midterm, that is going to be something that every other Republican has to defend. And how they word that defense is going to be a challenge.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, this is really good insight, Mitchell. Stay with us right there. I want to keep getting into it because there's, there's so much to get into because, you know, they can talk about their autopsy report. We knew a lot of this stuff. It's fun to watch them in array but we have to be ready for the battle ahead. That's certainly true. I want to tell you guys about why Refi. We are here at the WHY Refi studios in Phoenix, Arizona. So let's talk about them. They are great people, great patriots. They support all the right things. They support students, they support investors. And they have solved a problem in the marketplace where it comes to private student loans. But they need your help to do that. They need investors to come and help capitalize these loans. And they are offering a rich, rich return on investment at 10.25%. And that interest rate is fixed. You can invest from one to five years, spread it out as you'd like. Your interest is calculated daily, paid out monthly. And you have the freedom to take that interest as income or reinvest it and then you can even donate it to organizations, churches, Turning point, wherever you want to take that income, they make it easy. So for complete details, make sure you review that private placement memorandum, scan that QR code and view the disclosures at your leisure. 87780 invest. 87780 invest or visit them [e-mail] we'll be right back.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So we are joined by Mitchell Brown as a pollster and partner at the Signal organization that's going all around the country polling grassroots voters to find out where they're at the current Mood. Mitchell, I know that we've talked about this in the past and I will tell you, Charlie was even worried about the state of young voters. Saw what was kind of the writing on the wall with Midnight Hammer, saw it with Epstein. How big is the Iranian war playing into everything? And how big is Epstein playing into everything? Obviously that that became front and center this week with Thomas Massie's race in Kentucky's fourth. But more broadly, how is that playing?

[Mitchell Brown]

Yeah, I mean, I think the Epstein one is more that's just a kind of a phase and a current thing. But structurally like the Iran war is a large component of the Trumpian audience. Those people who are more restrictionist and I Army vet, like most of my veteran friends or are an anti Iran war, they're anti getting into more conflict in the Middle east similar to Charlie. And while so many of my former army buddies found Charlie was talking like that, that's where you see the massive generational divide. And another telling thing from that Massey race is if you look at the age breaks in that vote there to where it is the boomers that's ousted Thomas Massie, it was no young voters. So again, he won every voter or every voting group he won a majority of under the age of 55 or, sorry, under the age of 65. Every group over there is where Galleria overperformed. And that's not unique to Kentucky. That is pretty much everywhere to where when things are harder for young people at home, they become even more restrictionist on their views abroad. And so when these young people who came wanting something different and were told, actually no, we're going to do that, but that group has repelled on that idea. So again, a quick wrap to this conflict is key. It can't be another point on there. We can't. If we already have to go out and do the work of persuading on the economy and inflation, we can't sit there and have to defend more conflict.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, that becomes a problem. Right. Because we've often said on the show you can always choose when to start a war, you can't necessarily choose when to end it. And it sounds like some of the reporting that President Trump has had some stern conversations with Bibi Netanyahu out of Israel, basically telling him this is how it's going to be. I think President Trump, his political instincts are probably kicking in and he's looking for an immediate get out of Iran. It feels like you can feel that momentum building, which I would be in support of, candidly. I think there was an argument to be made that this was the right geopolitical and national security decision. And it might have just been one of those things where politically it's going to have an impact. And when we talk about that race in Kentucky's Fort though, and you talk about the 65 and over, Golran won that group, but he lost every other group. How much did they punch above their weight class? Did they out index compare turnout rates between Gen Z and the over 65?

[Mitchell Brown]

Yeah. So I mean, naturally, when you're sitting in a Republican primary audience, it's much older and much wider, much more male. So when you're sitting there, okay, that's already a larger chunk of the audience there. They performed slightly higher, but in a slight underperform. So Massey overall did better. I'm talking about in relation to where those groups should be, not overall turnout amongst those groups, but percentage based on how many, what percent over 65 compared to what percent under 65. It was again about a 10% over performance of older voters being there compared to the younger voters.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fascinating. Blake, you got anything? I just.

[Blake]

So we're saying the President's instincts are kicking and he does have extremely strong political instincts. That's why he could essentially wing it in 2016, win the nomination, win the presidency. He's always been going, he's a good marketing, he's great at marketing. He's great at the sense of how things will play out. And so that's why we say he seems to be trying to wind down the Iran thing now, because I think he senses that it could be very destructive. But how quickly does the public adjust on something like that? Because what we've talked about with the Iran war is there's the effect of the price at the pump, there's the effect of economic stuff. But how much of a role does the bigger sense we know from a lot of young voters, swing voters, that they just feel let down by the fact that the war happened because they thought that was just not going to happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

No new wars yet.

[Blake]

No new wars and so forth. Do they get over that relatively quickly? Is that something they can move beyond or is that more likely to be stickier?

[Mitchell Brown]

Yeah. Well, the point that you make, again, Donald Trump has a great political intuition. It's the kind of the double edged sword here to where he is not running right now. So it's great that he can go out and say these things. But it's still end of the day, it's if you're running in Georgia, if you're running in North Carolina, you're running in Arizona, you, the candidate have to answer that. And again, Trump's allure and why he's always been so successful is he can hit an audience and talk to people in a way most other Republicans can't. And so without that, that's where it gets harder is it's, it's going to take a much larger effort from outside groups like turning Point like TP action, like the White House political team moving over and getting out there and doing everything they can to help these candidates in those seats. Because again, we can go out and do that and explain and persuade, but we need to get on it. We can't just be, hey, we're leaving these senators out to defend themselves.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, let's go round robin here and tell us how you like to our chances here, Mitchell, because it does feel like there's been a bit of a moment momentum shift. We were kind of in the doldrums and we've gotten our groove back a little bit after Indiana, after the vra, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, let's go to Georgia. Mike Collins, does he have a shot to knock off Ossoff?

[Mitchell Brown]

No, that's the toughest One uphill battle. I think you're much, we're much better suited obviously to keep the gubernatorial House there, but that's going to be a tough seat because of Ossoff's cash.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, Mike Rogers, Michigan.

[Mitchell Brown]

Mike Rogers. I would put us slightly above Collins in the chance to flip that seat.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. What do we think about keeping the House?

[Mitchell Brown]

Keeping the House again, obviously with we kind of left four more seats on the table by not having Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina draw there and we'll see how Louisiana files out. I think with, with that change there, we're looking at most likely we can, it's going to be within three this time. So again, it's hard to, to fully say, but I think we probably lose the House by one or two if I had to go bet on this today. And again, the issue though when we're talking about all these other Senate races, guys, is that we were virtually seeing a map with how we have North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, maybe one or two defends, but now we have to spend in Alaska, Maine, Iowa, Ohio and Texas in addition that are going to be actual battles that people can't overlook. So the fundraising, yes, it's been great. We need to fundraise more and we need to start in all of those. We can't take any of those seats for granted. Senate, Senate, I think we end up holding, probably lose one to two seats overall, but still have the majority.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, I don't disagree with many of your takes except for Georgia. I think some more structural changes have happened on the integrity, voting integrity side that are going to give us a little bit more of a benefit than we predict. That's my prediction. Mitchell Brown signal. Thank you my friend. Good to see you.

[Mitchell Brown]

Thanks guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Our two start in just a few minutes.

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[Charlie Kirk]

I don't need money for the ballroom. You know, I'm making a gift of the ballroom. This is the biggest misreporting that I've ever seen. The ballroom is being built. It'll cost. It was going to be 200 million. I've doubled the size of it because we need it.

[Mike Davis]

And it's being done in conjunction with

[Charlie Kirk]

the military and with the very much in conjunction with the military and Secret Service. We're on time, on budget. It's going beautifully, have all the money I need. We're making a gift to the United States. They came along and they said we want to make it the House, the White House overall more secure. And I understand that. Not for me because I'll be gone. You know, I'll be gone and you'll have somebody else in for hopefully hundreds of years. But that's what they're doing it for. The Boeing room is paid for. It's a gift. I mean, I want to make it clear because so many people say, I thought you were giving this away. And all of a sudden the money that they're spending is for security, having to do maybe around the ballroom and other parts of the House, but this is not for the ballroom. The ballroom is being a tremendous amount of what's being done with respect to the ballroom is for national security.

[Terrance Bates]

That $1 billion White House security request was added to the Senate's $70 billion reconciliation bill to fund the ICE and CBP separate from the Department of Homeland Security. The move is meant to circumvent Democrat opposition since the budget reconciliation process only requires a majority vote. Senate Majority Leader John Thune says getting enough votes to pass the funding plan isn't looking likely at this moment. Well, the issue of fraud when it comes to health care is also front and center in Washington. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Addressing that very issue just moments ago.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

When criminals exploit these programs, taxpayers lose billions and vulnerable children lose their access to care. Health care fraud now costs the United

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

health care fraud and improper payments at $100 billion annually.

[Charlie Kirk]

That fraud drives up health care costs for all Americans.

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It weakens public trust. It drains taxpayer resources and threatens the

[Charlie Kirk]

long term stability of both Medicaid and Medicare.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

If we fail to confront the fraud aggressively, these programs will not survive for future generations in the form Americans rely upon them today.

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And in other headlines, former Cuban President Russia Raul Castro was charged with murder and destruction of an airplane for taking down two civilian airplanes flown by a Miami based Cuban exile group. The U.S. justice Department says the soon to be 95 year old ordered the attack on those planes back in 1996 while he was Cuba's defense minister. Those are your days headlines. We'll have more headlines throughout the day here on Real America's Voice. For now, a quick break and then back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. There is a massive press conference happening in Minnesota. They are nailing the Minnesota State of Minnesota for fraud right now.

[Blake]

Remember when, like I remember the Nick Shirley stuff started to come out before that people saying nothing will come of this. This is all just going to be slop. Nothing will happen. And before that as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, no, I mean, so I remember when we had. I always forget his name. Ryan.

[Blake]

Oh, man.

[Charlie Kirk]

We were early on this. The Thorpe, Thorpe City Journal came out with some initial reporting on it, which is I think partly what inspired Nick Shirley to go to Minnesota. Now we didn't realize Nick's, you know, whole investigation was going to go so viral. But here's what's happening. The DOJ is doing a big press conference right now talking about the first round of indictments against the fraudsters. Go ahead and play. Sat 9. Today we are announcing criminal charges against 15 defendants in Minnesota for fraud schemes that targeted over 90 million in taxpayer dollars. The fraud here in Minnesota is shocking. Our cases today involve seven different state managed Medicaid programs that have been systematically pilfered by fraudsters who treated Minnesota run

[Mitchell Brown]

programs as their personal piggy bank.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pilfered as their personal piggy bank. That's a strong word from that is Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald who is in charge of the fraud division. Now that the Anti Fraud Task force which the, which President Trump has propped up, obviously it's being chaired by JD Vance and it looks like also FDG chairman, FTC chairman, who we had on the show, Andrew Ferguson. So that is just one of those big storylines that's happening. Representative Ilhan Omar has been asked about her ties to some of this fraud. This just happens. So 11, did you ask Minnesota Democrats

[Mitchell Brown]

to block the subpoena for the investigation of Feeding Our Future on the state level

[Terrance Bates]

House.

[Charlie Kirk]

The House Republicans are considering investigating Feeding our Future. Now, your role in it, would you cooperate with that subpoena and provide documents if they request it here in the House Oversight Committee. Welcome to Washington. That's exactly what happens in the hallways and the byways and the steps. They get asked difficult questions that they don't want to answer and so they just bypass them altogether. She's got no good answers for it because Ilhan Omar is legitimately a scourge on our Congress. That's exactly right. She is a disgrace to the city of Washington D.C. and to the American people. She probably engaged in immigration fraud she's engaged in some other issues that are causing her complaints with the ethics complaints within the house. So Ilhan Omar has got I think some bad things in her future. She's gonna be continued to be investig. To help us break this down, we've got Mike Davis, the Article 3 project joining us now. Mike, welcome back to the show, my friend. Big news out of Minnesota with the fraud case. This is the first series of indictments brought by the doj. We were told nothing was going to happen. You are a, we're all cynical, Mike. You are an insider with this world. You know a lot of these people behind the scenes. Is, is more stuff going to continue happening?

[Mike Davis]

Yes, absolutely. This, combating this fraud is a top priority of President Trump. He's tasked his vice president to lead the effort. Along with Andrew Ferguson, my friends, who is the FTC chairman, we have Colin McDonald at the Justice Department who is leading the National Fraud Division, the new National Fraud Division. Todd Blanch, the acting Attorney General is fully behind this. Cash Patel. This is a whole of government approach. You saw Bobby Kennedy, the HHS sec, excuse me, the Secretary Kennedy from HHS at this press conference today along with Dr. Oz, the Medicare, Medicare and Medicaid CMS administrator. They're taking this extraordinarily seriously in the Trump administration. This is as they said at this press conference today, this is just the beginning of these indictments. There are many more indictments coming. I think it was like $90 million in fraud that they brought indictments for today. There is so much fraud across, across the government, particularly in these Democrat states. In Minnesota, it was these Somali pirates who were looting the Minnesota Medicare and Medicaid systems. It seems pretty obvious that the governor, Tim Waltz and his team were at a, at a minimum turning a blind eye and reckless in this. So maybe you should see investigations into these Democrat politicians who allowed this broad to happen. Ilan Omar, as you guys were talking about this, if you are a Somali pirates in Minnesota who defrauded the government, you're gonna have a very rough next three years.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, you nailed the, you put the nail, whatever the expression is, I'm losing it right now. But you hit the nail on the head there, Mike. And I think I did. An op ed actually came out this morning on J.D. vance and Ferguson. Their leadership in this anti fraud task force in how we're refreshing it is they are our instrument of justice. The American taxpayers are sick of getting fleeced by Somali pirates, other foreigners, but they're also sick of the politicians who enable it. And again I say this with caution, Mike, because I know you have to have some discretion here, but are we gonna see justice for the politicians that enable this? Because I truly believe that fraud is not a bug. It is a feature. And this is. This is all designed to sort of enrich and empower constituencies that vote Democrat. And we want to see actual leaders get indicted here.

[Mike Davis]

Let's just ask this question. How does Nick Shirley, a young, bold and fearless reporter with a camera going in, go into Minnesota and find and expose this fraud, but the governor of Minnesota doesn't know what's happening right under his nose? It's just not believable that Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz did not, at a minimum, know about this widespread fraud among the Somali community, the Somali pirates. And the reason he would turn to blind eye is obvious. He wants their support. He wants their political support. He wants their votes. He wants their political donations. I think the FBI, the Justice Departments, the inspectors general at hhs, cms, all these government programs, they need to open investigations on these Democrat politicians.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just real quick, some. Some breaking here. The Feeding Our Futures mastermind has just been set in South 13. Breaking news. A Minnesota judge has just sentenced the mastermind behind the Feeding Our Future fraud scheme, Amy Bach. She just got more than 41 years in prison. The scheme involved the theft of nearly $250 million in Covid funding. That money was meant to feed hungry children. 41.5. That's good, that. I mean, I was thinking it was going to be 4.1 years. That's 41 years. That's it.

[Blake]

We need stuff like that for a lot of the others, too.

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They include the highest loss amount ever

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mitchell Brown]

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[Charlie Kirk]

And the Democrats let it happen. And I'm sure some Republican politicians did as well. I know there's investigations in Ohio as well right now. Check this out, Mike. Since April 1st, the DOJ's Fraud Division has announced over 450 fraud enforcement actions nationwide representing tens of billions of taxpayer dollars.

[Mike Davis]

Yeah, the Democrat party is the party of, well, first of all, they're the assassination party, as we all know. And they're also the party of fraud. And that what they do is they let their low life constituents like these Somali pirates come in illegally, get on our public dole and siphon up the public dole, commit massive fraud and then get rewarded with birthright citizenship, get rewarded with these government grants, this lavish lifestyle. I am so pleased that President Trump and his team, Vice President J.D. vance, Andrew Ferguson, Todd Blanche, Colin McDonald, Cash Patel, Dr. Oz, Secretary RFK Jr. This is an all star team and they're to going, they're going after this fraud. They're going to put these scumbags in jail and wait till we start doing asset forfeiture. When we start going after these Somali pirates mansions and sports cars and bank accounts. It's, this is just the beginning. And this is not going to just happen with the Somali pirates in Minnesota or the Somali pirates in Ohio. This is going to be a nation wide effort. So the California, New York justice is coming for you guys. And it's not just the people who committed the fraud, the scumbag low lives who committed the fraud, it's the politicians. We need to remember this. And Dr. Oz talked about this at this press conference today. Remember they are looting Medicare and Medicaid. These are the programs for the most vulnerable American seniors. And these scumbags of all these are taking this money.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's criminal and it's evil. I completely agree. You gotta remember who's getting screwed here. You mentioned birthright citizenship. The President was asked about this. You and I were texting about this this morning because there was some Supreme Court decisions that were released. We were sort of wondering, you know, would they, would they surprise us with the birthright decision? Sat 12, birthright citizenship. And we're the only country in the world that has it. You step into our country and you're all of a sudden a citizen. You come In a certain way. This was not meant for Chinese billionaires to have their children become citizens of our country. And if this is allowed to stand, it will be a disaster economically for our country. And you'll have 25% of the people coming into our country coming in through birthright citizenship, and we won't have any, any control. This decision by the Supreme Court is a very big one. And, Mike, I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but I asked your opinion, and I guess you can be the bearer of bad news. I said, what's going to happen? Mike, what are you hearing?

[Mike Davis]

Look, if the Supreme Court actually has the courage to follow the law, which they should, if you have lifetime tenure and pay protection, that's kind of our constitutional scheme. This is such an easy question. We did not fight a civil war and grant birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists. 1.5 million Chinese birth tourists to come here, have their kids, go back to Beijing and become American citizens, and mail in their votes from Beijing. That's not why we fought a civil war. The Supreme Court justices know that. They know that subject to the jurisdiction in the 14th Amendments means people who were born here with loyalty to the United States, like the freed black slaves. And so it should be an easy case.

[Charlie Kirk]

Unfortunately, you said if. You said if they have the courage, they don't.

[Mike Davis]

They don't have the courage. And that's going to be obvious at the end of June when this comes out. They're going to come up with some.

[Mitchell Brown]

They're.

[Mike Davis]

They're probably going to say that a 1940 statute is what gives birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists and other illegal aliens. It's, it's their way of trying to weasel out of this. Their cowardly way to try to weasel out of this. Because I'll say this, we the people, as the sovereign citizens of America, are most crucial sovereign powers to control who comes and goes and who becomes one of us. And we never gave that away. We never gave that away to Chinese birth tourists. We didn't give it away after the Civil war with the 14th amendment. We didn't give it away to any Congress subsequent to that, including that 1940 law. But these Supreme Court justices are not going to have the courage to follow the law, and they're going to say that Chinese birth tourists have birthright citizenship under this 1940 statute.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is there another way out if we get stuck with this? If they rule against this, what's the alternative? 30 seconds.

[Mike Davis]

The other way out. Apparently, Congress is going to have to amend that statute to make clear we didn't give birthright citizenship to Chinese Birth Tours, which is not easy to do. You need 60 votes in the Senate, and then it goes back up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court's going to have to Decide if the 14th amendment gives birthright citizenship to Chinese Birth Tours. This is just cowardice on their part. I see it coming. I work there. I know these Justices. I know what's coming.

[Charlie Kirk]

Article 3 Project Mike Davis Great work. Thank you my friend. We'll see you soon. We're going to talk about America's 250 next.

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All right. In honor of America's 250th birthday, which we're going to be talking about, this segment, our friends over at Alliance Defending Freedom, great patriots, great organization. It's one of our most important legal institutions in the country. They're inviting you to commit to five days of prayer for America. Since its founding, America has been sustained by the prayers of its people. Through our highs and lows, Americans of faith have turned to God for wisdom, guidance and strength. And so as we all prepare for to celebrate 250 this summer years of freedom, ADF is asking believers like you and me to join in dedicating ourselves to prayer for our country, thanking God for how he has worked in the past and asking him to prepare us for what's ahead. So commit to pray for America by signing up today. For the next five days, you'll receive daily text messages and emails with specific prompts and insight about what issues are facing our country and how you can pray for them. Visit joinadf joinadf.com Charlie joinadf.com Charlie and sign up to pray today. Or you can also text them. So you can also text PRAY25083848 to opt in. That's PRAY25083848 to Opt in. All right. So do that today. Prayer is so important and sometimes it's overlooked and it and it's gotta be the bedrock of everything we do. I'm very excited about this conversation. Cause this book is just flying off the shelves right now. And it's by Dr. Meehan. Dr. Matthew Meehan. He's in studio here, right to my left here. And he's got one of the most beautiful books that I've seen. That's a nice it's really like one

[Blake]

you'd put on a table.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, absolutely. It's a coffee table book if you want it, the American book of fables. Dr. Matthew Meehan, you are the associate dean and assistant professor of government at Hillsdale College, D.C. and now you're also the author of the American Book of Fables. And apparently you are on track to be a New York Times bestseller. So we want to help do our part here to make sure that happens. So get your copy today. Welcome to the show. Dr.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Thanks for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Congratulations on the book. I mean, something of this scale and scope Is such a, such a process. You've got. You traveled the country. I love it that the, the front is kind of homage to the Southwest. So we're here in Phoenix, Arizona. So this looks like maybe Utah actually. Potentially. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Blake]

Well, what is this book? The American Book of Fables.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

It's. It's a. Basically a journey through the country with a madcap group of characters. Hugh Manatee and his.

[Blake]

Hugh the Manatee, his friends.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Yeah, exactly. They go around the whole country on a mission. That's a long story, but it's a book of. For the whole family. And yes, I wanted for a 250, I'm sort of a go big or go home. So this is a 395 page hardback heirloom coffee table with tons of illustrations. There's hundreds of pen and inks, oils and watercolors from a beautiful and brilliant illustrator. My dear friend. And this is our third book together, but it has a section for Littles which has nursery rhymes from the founding period all the way up to today. I wrote some new ones for the A250 and for the themes of the, of the. Of the book. Then it has, for middles, it has fables that are Aesop like, but they've been adapted. Instead of the lion and the tiger, now you have the bald eagle, the buffalo and the beaver. And then, then there's also a section for Biggs with primary sources from founding fathers and from brave settlers and their memoirs and their struggles and the Indian wars and all kinds of cool stories about the heroism of the American people who settled the country. And then each of those chapters, there's 13 chapters in honor of the 13 colonies. They go from the Everglades to Yellowstone to the desert west, they go up to end a glacier, west coast, et cetera. But each chapter has these Littles, middles and Bigs keyed to the region and then keyed to the Declaration of Independence. So each chapter takes a sentence or a phrase from the Declaration. And then those nursery rhymes, fables and stories help to explain the Declaration and the American way of life.

[Blake]

So can you either read it or a quick summary. What's one of the new fables you came up with that relates to America?

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

So I have one about two California seals, brothers and sisters and the starfish. In fact, I think I can show. I can find it here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, these the original paintings.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

These are the watercolors. The huge ones are, are 3 by 5 foot oils, but I couldn't bring those with me on a plane.

[Charlie Kirk]

You can Zoom in. I mean, these are beautiful illustration. Well, paintings and they're throughout the book. The book, like when you flip through it page by page, it's, it's genuinely beautiful to look at. The layout is beautiful. The pages are big and beautiful and. Yeah, big, beautiful book. I'm just not used to beautiful books. Usually, you know, you got paper books.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

It's even huge. It's huge.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Blake]

One huge, big, beautiful book. Tell the President about that one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. Well, you're gonna compete with, he's got some table, some coffee table books there too. So, you know, it occurs to me, you know, we are in America 250. There is this crisis of patriotism, especially with younger Americans. So for our audience out there, and I do want to. Blake's earlier question. I would love to have you read something, but the. How do you raise young people that are patriotic, that love America, that get it? What's your advice for them?

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

So I think you have to do patriotism just candidly and straightforwardly. The kids need to learn the Pledge of Allegiance. They need to go and stop at the roadside historical marker and just read and see men shed blood here for your liberty during the Revolutionary War or during the Civil War.

[Charlie Kirk]

A little easier to do out east.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Well, but actually when I go out west, I tell a lot of the local stories. The settlement is the way when you're in a western state. The struggles, the sorrows, the sacrifices and the beauty and bravery of settling the country. That is a local story. And those historical markers are part of patriotism. We think of patriotism as fife and drum, Revolutionary War and just the Founding Fathers. But, but the full virtue of patriotism, which anchors you back into that founding is every one of your fellow citizens who came before you, who gave you those goods. So I think you have to sort of, you know, think it through in that way. Like I, I, this sounds ridiculous, but a father, you take a cold glass of water on a hot day and you give it to a kid and you go think of all the people who sacrificed to build all the dams and dikes up into the mountains above Phoenix, right? So you have clean water. Like that's part of patriotism too. And then I think you, you mentioned it in the, the ADF plug before we got on. Religion is another virtue, right? Thank being thankful to God for what he's given you. And then piety, being thankful to your parents and grandparents for what they gave you. And so those three virtues together, like the three legged stool, and they support someone who is grateful and, and why We.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Why we care about patriotism is because in one sense, it. It's how we pursue happiness. If you're not grateful, then you don't have any reason to serve and help because you. You're like, thank you for all you gave me, everyone. And then you want to give back and do good. And people who have been given a lot of good and raised right kind of just do this. We kind of know it. But when, you know, like, when the. Frankly, the left starts to tell you everything that came before is sick and evil and vile and corrupt and oppressive, you actually have to push back and foster that gratitude. And this is why I wrote this book. I was very keen to do so.

[Charlie Kirk]

I love that. I think gratitude is one of the most powerful virtues, and it seems to change everything about the way you think about your life, what you think about your country, what you think about your family. And I just think when you look at the other side, that the civilizational arsonist, as I like to call them, they hate everything. They're embittered about everything. They're angry, and we get to be grateful for the providence of God, the blessings of this great nation, the greatest nation in the history of the world. And you're right. I think, like, if I had to sum up what I'm seeing in these pages, just sort of before me is this gratitude for the rich tapestry that is America from sea to shining sea. And I love how you have it broken down by regions and, you know, from the brackish blackwaters and the. You know, to the. Like I said, the Southwest on the

[Blake]

COVID They left to do a fable book about how those beavers that did the dams that were underpaid workers in April Phoenix.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Blake]

No, they had underpaid workers. And actually, one of the beavers, you know, said something racist, so he took the beaver's name off of that.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so Blake wanted you to read something. We've got two and a half minutes here. Is that enough time for you to

[Blake]

read or if you could summarize. I want to. I want to know what the.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

That one's a little long. That one's a little long for. For the air. But basically, I'll hold it up here up close if you can. Starfish get bored and come out of the ocean and cover the eyes of two seals, a brother and sister, and they just basically say, all you can see right, are the tubes of their feet. And it's like, basically. And it takes place in the Channel Islands, and It's sort of YouTube and channels. Right. That sort of, that you can become like totally addicted to social media and sort of lost.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so it's off the coast, like Santa Barbara.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Exactly. Which is the westernmost part right off of L. A.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

And so the starfish basically tell the brother, hey, you're, you're looking weak. You got to bulk up. So he's trying to like carbo load on fish. So he collects tons of fish that the starfish eat at night and they tell the, the sister who's going to eat the fish that he won't eat. You're looking pretty fat. You should really sort of thin down, sort of, you know, create. And basically eventually a witty fox reveals. So it's a kind of. That one's a pretty on the nose moral about the dangers of social media, that you can see only stars.

[Blake]

Right.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

And think that you're going to be sort of the famous influencer. Right. And sort of get lost in social media and then they, the algorithm tells you to abuse yourself. Right. So that's a very, that's one of the most modern ones. That's very new. But, but it works nicely.

[Blake]

So the moral of the story is get rid of the starfish.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

That's right. Yeah. Well, put them back in the ocean.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's great. So where can people pick up a copy here? Dr.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

So anywhere you buy a book this week, frankly, until Saturday's done, Amazon and Barnes and Noble are the places that would help us get on the New York Times bestseller list, because that's important. Because this, I don't want this to just be something for us on the conservative side of the aisle. Weave in the national parks and all kinds of beautiful things that I think will attract people who aren't on board with what we care about so that we can actually sort of extend the community of patriots. That needs to be a bandwagon thing, man.

[Charlie Kirk]

You got excerpts from George Washington, letter from George Washington to John Hancock. You got a letter from Samuel Ward to his son, which is a Civil War era.

[Blake]

And I'm gonna say for all the illustrations that are in it for as big, it's, it's a big well made thing. It's on Amazon. It's only 40 bucks.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Samuel Ward was a Rhode island delegate. I apologize. I was thinking about Seward.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Oh, yeah, well, they're, they're, they're all the stories keep pointing to Providence and how blessed the revolution was and the entire settlement of this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

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I heart radio. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. We have Dr. Matthew Meehan, Associate dean and assistant professor of graduates, government, Hillsdale College, D.C. and author of the new. And we're gonna, we're gonna help. We're gonna do our part here in this audience to help make it a New York Times bestseller because it's on its way already. And we want as many people to get this and be patriotic for America, love this country as possible author of the American Book of Fables. And we've got a little treat here for the audience. You're gonna do a live reading, we've got even some imagery to go along with it of one of your poems that you've written. This is an. This is an original. So you have stuff that you borrowed from different eras, letters from something old,

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

something new, something red, white and blue.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there you go. There you go. Something else of the new. Something red, white and blue. Floor is yours, sir.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Yeah, this is the Benedict sort of benedictory poem, the sort of send off poem. And it's about that, that issue of gratitude we talked about before. But it's called American mourning, which is a pun on you could mourn. You could take the black belt. You could be sad. Or you could see. No. A new dawn. America's morning, right?

[Mike Davis]

Which.

[Blake]

How is it spelled?

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

It's spelled like a new dawn. But if you hear what you want to hear. If you're a sad soul. Right. But you have to govern yourself. American morning. If we could till the earth as our fathers did and look on loam that providence long hid and drink from gin. Clear rivers overflowing through meadow traces full of bison lowing. If we could step beyond that blackest tillage and wander into hunting ground and village and smoke the peace pipe trading well for furs and find a spring before we die of thirst. If we could make a track without a rest and end at peaceful waters in the west and build the dams and raise the towers up and from them ring the bells for all to sup. If we could dredge the harbor and port the air and send our ships abroad to make things fair and rise beyond the curvature of earth and in one step both wax and wane man's worth. If we could do what our fathers did before then what on earth would we be grateful for? The sun now shines on us to play our part as holy as we orient our heart.

[Charlie Kirk]

Beautiful. Beautiful. And that was read at the rededicate event.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

The White House and Freedom250 made a beautiful video. I think some of it was in the B roll maybe, but it's. It was a video with. Using murals from the history of the west and they had a professional reader and. And they put it up during the dedication to God ceremony.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what does that. When you're writing about gratitude, but maybe dive in. I mean, I love poetry because it's sort of eye of the beholder and everybody gets something different out of it. What do you get out of your own words?

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Each line, it's 20 lines, five beat lines. So that you have sort of 250 honored even in the structure of the thing. Forgive me, I'm a poetic nerd, but. But each line is actually a part of the steps of our history all the way up through the space race rising above the curvature of the earth. The invention of flight. To port the air. We make airports. That's us. We made that. We did that. But also we sent our ships abroad to make things fair. World War I, World War II. Right. Like we actually sort of gave to the world from our store of riches and sacrifice. But it's also about looking back and seeing all that and going, oh shucks, I can't live like the cowboys. I can't live that old adventure. It's like, yeah, but you actually. That's the wrong way. You shouldn't be nostalgic. You should be thankful and then turn around and be that kind of soul for the next generation to look back and be moved. And so this sort of orient your heart, turn to the sun that rises in the east. Right. You have to reorient. And there's a whole pun that you have to return and face the sun in the end of the book in Glacier national is the going to the sun Road. And there's a pun there if you're a witty wise, like humanity is a stupid pun. The puns get more and more complicated by the end of the book. Going to the sun Road, which is a real place in Glacier National. It's beautiful. The sun of God and the son of optimism. American optimism for the future, but also American optimism for our future that rests beyond the grave. That's. I think that's the kind of thing that made America great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I love what you're saying because, you know, it says in scripture that God appoints the times and the place. And I do think there is a sense in our modern context that we are nostalgic for the greatness of the past. America is blessed with an incredible past and an incredible story, a founding story, but also, you know, World War II, the sacrifice of the Civil War, overcoming slavery and segregation, all of these things, these myths that are not their actual history, but these are our founding myths that it's hard not sometimes to not get stuck in them. And you look at your present travails and struggles and issues that we're facing now. And so much of the present vibe is that we are a nation in decline. And I feel for, you know, the youngest Americans, Gen Z, youngest voters that are being raised in a country where they feel this decline. They've internalized it in many ways. They've given in to nihilism. And the only way through nihilism is to find hope and purpose greater than yourself, greater than your present sufferings. And I guess that's why I resonate with what you're saying so much, because you seem like an optimistic guy. And there is a lot of reasons with God, all things are possible. And I think that is the American story at its most foundational level is that this is a providential nation that God has his hand on.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

And it is the duty of the poet, and that's my role in this book. It's the duty of the poet to represent these Goods that are old and true in a new way so that the next generation can carry on that tradition.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's why you have seals with algorithms and channels.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Yeah, I mean, we didn't even get to. I have a Grok powered character. Humanity versus an AI powered robotic elephant seal. About what is this human nature and what, you know, how do we actually engage with AI? That's this one right here. It's pretty ridiculous, but a lot of seals. It's actually a. Well, this is the west coast section you're working through so.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, as somebody who used to live in Santa Barbara, I could appreciate it that you just go tool around in, like, a boat and you see seals, like, climbing up on everything and see lions. It really is a beautiful part of the country. I mean, it's. There's that spectacular.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

That chapter. I actually call it Our west coast, because I know you. You guys are very good about, like. No, collects it fine. Sort of as a tactical retreat, but we're taking California back, baby.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

So I like that.

[Blake]

That chapter's hour in the LA Mayor's race.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Spencer Pratt. Steve Hilton. Get up.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

I'm looking at you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. Do we have a poem to Spencer Pratt in here? If not, I'm sure his.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Well, he could do a reading. Go for it, Pratt.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Well, this is fantastic. So let's give it one last shout out here, guys. Help get this to the New York Times bestseller list. Dr. Meehan. Well, Mr. Meehan. You're Mr. In this, but it's Dr. Matthew Meehan in the American Book of Fables. Gift here. I just want to say, I mean, I know this is a personal pursuit of yours, but the work that Hillsdale is doing, the scholarship, the quality of people that are produced and, you know, enabled, empowered through that institution, never ceases to amaze me. So this has been a real, real treat, and we're grateful to have you, sir.

[Dr. Matthew Meehan]

Yeah, thanks for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

I appreciate it. Get your copy today. The American Book of Fables. Get it for your kids and grandkids. Kids, please. And keep it around the house and make it go big, because we need more patriotism and we need more gratitude. So be grateful today. We'll see you tomorrow.