SEN. JOHNSON ON COVID DEATHS, CHRISTIAN REVIVAL, MEXICO GRAVES | AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE W STEVE GRUBER

Summary

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Podcast Summary: America’s Voice Live with Steve Gruber

Episode Title: SEN. JOHNSON ON COVID DEATHS, CHRISTIAN REVIVAL, MEXICO GRAVES
Podcast: Real America’s Voice – iHeartPodcasts
Date: May 20, 2026
Host: Steve Gruber

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging episode, host Steve Gruber covers significant issues at the intersection of politics, faith, and current events. Key discussions include:

• The growing movement for Christian revival and heritage in America
• Senator Ron Johnson’s revelations about pediatric COVID vaccine deaths and alleged government data suppression
• Investigative reporting on mass graves in Mexico and cartel retaliation
• The rise of graduation events exclusive to illegal alien students at U.S. universities
• Hantavirus concerns and alternative pandemic preparedness strategies

Gruber’s tone is urgent, patriotic, and at times combative, tapping into conservative anxieties about government overreach, religious expression, border security, and media bias. The episode features live interviews, pointed monologues, and direct listener engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Christian Revival on the National Mall

(02:00–06:00)

• Gruber recaps a weekend “national jubilee” event in Washington D.C., where thousands gathered for prayer and a re-dedication of the U.S. as a Christian nation.
• Trump administration officials (Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, Mike Johnson) led public prayers and patriotic speeches highlighting America’s Christian heritage.

Notable Quotes:

• Marco Rubio (03:16):
  “America, from the very beginning, has occupied a unique and exceptional place in world history... Our nation, more than any other, was shaped by this Christian idea.”
• Steve Gruber (04:07):
  “America is a Christian nation, not by coercion, but by history...by the providential hand of Almighty God himself.”

Key Point:
Speakers frame the Biden administration as overtly hostile to Christian beliefs, citing federal investigations of pro-life activists, surveillance of Catholic congregants, and efforts to marginalize Christianity in public institutions—a narrative bolstered by a recent task force report on anti-Christian bias.

Todd Blanche (Acting Attorney General) (05:33):
“It was much more than just rogue agents… It was actually a systematic culture issue at the Department of Justice to target Christians…”

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2. Christian Clubs vs. Islamic Groups in Public Schools

(06:15–11:17)

• Gruber interviews Marco Hunter Lopez, a conservative Christian student from Wiley East High School, who testifies to Congress about alleged double standards: Christian clubs face bureaucratic obstacles, while Islamic groups are welcomed with less scrutiny.

Quote Highlight:

• Marco Hunter Lopez (07:14):
  “When our club has guest speakers ... all these lengthy processes. I often have to miss my lunch period ... But on the other hand, the Islamic group got favorable treatment.”
• On threats faced:
  “I had people saying they were going to be at my house waiting for me... and they were going to shoot me. ... But I wake up every morning with victory, with Christ.” (08:08)

Discussion Point:
School administrators allegedly display favoritism toward non-Christian religious groups and dismiss death threats against Christian students. Gruber connects this perceived bias to a larger cultural conflict regarding religious freedoms and Christian heritage.

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3. The Founders and Christian Roots

(11:17–12:05)

• Gruber contends that America’s founding fathers established the nation on Christian principles—not mere “religious pluralism”—and warns of leftist attempts to erase this history.
• He names Patrick Henry, John Adams, Benjamin Rush, and even Thomas Jefferson as examples.

Quote:

• “Our Constitution was made only for moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.” —John Adams, cited by Gruber

Contrast:
He contrasts these ideals with policies he claims “mock biblical sexuality, redefine marriage and family, and treat unborn life as disposable.”

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4. COVID-19 Vaccine Deaths & Data Suppression

Feature Interview with Senator Ron Johnson
(14:53–24:39)

• Discussion centers on Johnson’s recent release of an FDA memo on 10 pediatric deaths post COVID vaccination.
• Johnson alleges that government officials deliberately suppressed safety signals in vaccine data, masking the true scale of adverse outcomes.

Highlights:

• On data suppression:
  “Their algorithm that analyzed the VAER safety system was going to hide and mask safety signals... They decided to use the algorithm that they knew ... was going to hide safety signals, and they're clinging to that to this day.” (16:40)
• On media coverage:
  “I cannot get the story broadcast... I can't get an interview on [mainstream media].”
• On Dr. Fauci:
  “At a minimum, he lied to Congress. At a maximum, he was part of the COVID up, of the fact that his... genetic therapy injection was killing people.” (19:10)

Key Insights:

• Johnson argues that the Biden administration ignored or concealed early evidence of harm.
• He and Gruber claim mainstream media is complicit in not covering such stories.

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5. Republican Senate Politics & Election Integrity

(20:20–24:39)

• Gruber asks Johnson why the Republican majority isn’t more assertive. Johnson laments GOP divisions and the constraints of the filibuster, warning that Democrats would eliminate it if given the chance.
• Johnson wants more strategic use of power before the 2028 elections to prevent Democrats from “nationalizing” control.

Quote:

• “This is a moment of truth... There aren't enough Republicans. Not John Thune's fault.” (21:59)

• On Trump’s continued influence:

  • Gruber: “President Trump is stronger today than any president in modern history with his own party... If people think Maga is dead, they’re missing something...” (22:59)
  • Johnson: “It is all about turnout... We need a large tent and we need to make politics additive, not subtractive.” (24:28)

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6. Mass Graves Investigation in Mexico

Feature Interview with Oscar Ramirez, RAV Correspondent
(25:53–29:29)

• Ramirez details the dangers he and fellow investigators face after exposing cartel mass graves in Jalisco, Mexico.
• Cartel affiliates have issued death threats against both investigators and their families due to this reporting.

Quote Highlights:

• “We found a body... and after we found this body, a lot of people... armed... were telling us and asking what we were doing there.” (25:53)
• “They have been instigating...directly to me...threatened my life again, to stop exposing these...mass graves...” (26:57)
• On cartel crackdown:
  “Marco Rubio and the Trump administration are pressuring Mexico like nobody else in history... Trump administration wants to destroy the criminal organizations in Mexico.” (28:22)

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7. Graduation Events for Illegal Alien Students

Guest: Emily Sturg, Campus Reform Reporter
(31:52–34:27)

• Some universities have begun holding separate graduation ceremonies for illegal alien students; Sturg and Gruber criticize this as divisive and unfair to taxpayers and U.S. citizens.

Quote Highlights:

• Emily Sturg (31:52):
  “So far I've exposed 10 universities for hosting these illegal alien graduation ceremonies...while these universities...are deciding to make these ceremonies private...because they don't want Tom Homan or ICE to show up as unwelcomed guests.”
• On resources:
  “Over 20 states...provide these discounted in state tuition rates to illegal alien students...money that could go to American students.” (33:22)

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8. Hantavirus Response & Pandemic Preparedness

Guest: Nicholas Hoelscher, Epidemiologist & McCullough Foundation Admin
(35:43–41:22)

• With a new hantavirus (Andes strain) outbreak in headlines, Gruber expresses skepticism about public health authorities after COVID-19.
• Hoelscher reassures listeners that human-to-human transmission risk is negligible and that early media panic is overblown.

Key Insights:

• “When looking at 22 studies, looking at 22 outbreaks, they found no credible evidence of efficient human to human transmission. So we believe it does not pose a large risk of a pandemic whatsoever.” (37:44)

• Discussion of research on hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin’s antiviral properties, and relevance for pandemic kits—tied to skepticism of government guidance on vaccines and treatments.

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9. “What Makes America Wonderful” & Listener Comments

(43:33–end)

• Light-hearted segment on lambs being used as natural lawnmowers in Washington, D.C., as an example of American ingenuity.
• Gruber reads listener commentary on Thomas Massie’s loss in the Kentucky primary, reflecting party loyalty and the importance of unity for the movement.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Steve Gruber on media coverage:
  “It’s supposed to be the relentless pursuit of truth, not the relentless pursuit of ideology. Maybe I went to a different school of journalism.” (18:41)
• Marco Hunter Lopez on faith:
  “I know nobody can proclaim anything over me because I wake up every morning with victory, with Christ.” (08:08)
• Oscar Ramirez on cartel threats:
  “They have been instigating, particularly directed to my social media...threatened my life again, to stop exposing...the mass graves.” (26:57)
• Emily Sturg on higher ed:
  “It's absolutely a slap in the face to taxpayers...It's a slap in the face to American students...” (33:22)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:00 – Christian jubilee event coverage and Rubio’s speech
• 06:15 – Marco Hunter Lopez discusses religious discrimination in schools
• 14:53 – Senator Ron Johnson interview: COVID pediatric deaths & data suppression
• 25:53 – Oscar Ramirez details cartel threats in Mexico mass graves investigation
• 31:52 – Emily Sturg on illegal alien graduation events
• 35:43 – Nicholas Hoelscher on hantavirus, pandemic preparedness, and public health skepticism
• 43:33 – “What Makes America Wonderful” and community listener feedback

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Summary

This episode weaves together sharp criticism of perceived anti-Christian bias in American institutions, skepticism about governmental and media narratives—especially regarding COVID-19—and the struggle against cartel violence at the border. Through interviews and monologues, Steve Gruber and guests portray America at a crossroads, championing faith, transparency, national sovereignty, and traditional values as solutions to contemporary challenges.

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Transcript

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[Steve Gruber]

Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Grew. It is Wednesday 20th May, year of our Lord 2026. Let's get into today's top stories. As always, thank you for joining me here in Real America's Voice. Nice to see you. On a Wednesday, a recent FDA related analysis was released by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, including a Memo that referenced 10 reported pediatric death following vaccination. Yeah, I'll bring the senator on in just a few minutes to discuss that and a lot more. Also, I'll show you a shocking story involving our own RAV correspondent Oscar Ramirez, who's been receiving death threats after his recent investigation of the mass graves in Mexico. More on that as well. And then later as we head into the graduation season, some colleges and universities are going the extra mile by planning events that are exclusive to, you guess it, illegal aliens. That and more coming up on today's show. But first, I want to start with what we saw this past weekend, because it's very, very important. This past Sunday on the National Mall in our nation's capital, something powerful happened. Thousands upon thousands gathered to rededicate 250, a national jubilee of prayer, praise and thanksgiving. They lifted their voices in worship. They prayed for revival, and they rededicated this country as one nation under God. As we head toward our 250th birthday and leading the charge, Trump administration heavyweights like Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, and the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. Here's the message that Rubio shared loud and proud.

[Trump Administration Official / Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche]

Listen, it is no coincidence that America, from the very beginning, has occupied a unique and exceptional place in world history. Before the Christian west, most societies and civilizations, for that matter, thought in stagnant cycles. The flooding of the Nile, the return of the rains, the cycle of the harvest. History, for them, was a wheel to nowhere. It turned and turned, only to end up back where it began. But our faith calls us outwards into the limitless darkness of the unknown. It tells us to go forth and preach the gospel to the world as a witness unto all nations, unto the ends of the earth. From that command came America. Our nation, more than any other in history, was shaped by this Christian idea.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. For years, the radical left tried to scrub every trace of Christianity from the public square. They mocked us, sued us, and canceled us. But under President Donald J. Trump, we are done apologizing. Let me say that again. We are done apologizing or shrinking. America is a Christian nation, not by coercion, but by history, by the blood of our fathers, by the sweat of our pioneers, and by the providential hand of Almighty God himself. Our rights don't come from bureaucrats in Washington. They come from our Creator. And that's the truth the left fears most. Just weeks ago, the Trump administration's task force to Eradicate Anti Christian Bias dropped a bombshell report over 200 pages detailing exactly how the Biden DOJ and federal agencies waged a systematic war on Christians and our churches. Peaceful pro life believers slapped with heavy federal charges while attacks on churches and pregnancy centers got a shrug. Christian schools and adoption agencies harassed for daring to live the biblical truth. Parents labeled domestic terrorists for protecting their kids from radical gender ideology. And Catholics monitored like potential terrorist threats. This wasn't incompetence. This was Targeted persecution. Here is acting Attorney General Todd Blanche to explain.

[Trump Administration Official / Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche]

Is this just rogue prosecutors, a rogue FBI office, or was it a systematic culture within the Department of Justice and even beyond the Department of Justice under the last administration to target Christians, to target God fearing Americans? And what we found in that very deep, substantial report is it was much more than just rogue agent. It was much more than just a field office or a prosecutor. It was actually a systematic culture issue at the Department of Justice. To target Christians, to target people based upon their religious beliefs, extraordinarily disappointing. But President Trump said on day one that this was going to change, and I'm happy to report that it had.

[Steve Gruber]

The Biden regime didn't want neutrality. They wanted Christianity pushed into the corner or stamped out entirely. Then look at what's happening right here, right now in Texas. In Wiley School District, Wiley East High School allowed, encouraged a Y Islam group to hand out copies of Quran hijabs and Sharia law pamphlets. The principal there has celebrated World Hijab Day two years in a row, donning the hijab herself both times. Wiley's middle school offers a copy of the Quran in its library, but there's no Bible to be found. Coincidence? Conservative Christian student Marco Hunter Lopez says he's not aware of any other faith groups that have been allowed on the campus. And he says it's been an uphill battle securing a place for his Republican students club at the same school. He testified on Capitol Hill recently about his concerns. Here's part of what he said.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

When our club has guest speakers, including a state representative or a congressman, we have to submit two weeks in advance paperwork. We have to submit a week in adv. Advance background check. We have to submit their staff if they're coming. All these lengthy processes. I often have to miss my lunch period and skip lunch, skip a meal to fill these out. But on the other hand, the Islamic group got favorable treatment.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Okay, yeah.

[Steve Gruber]

What were the security protocols that were in place for the Islamic group?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

From what I know, None. None from what I know.

[Steve Gruber]

So typically you have to go through a lengthy background process, but this Islamic

[Senator Ron Johnson]

group didn't have it.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Correct. Obviously they didn't. Background check, you know, the organization because it has multiple terror links and they didn't, I guess they didn't check the Sharia pamphlets that they gave us or the crons with the Shahada card. They hadn't. They didn't. They were perfectly fine with it because the principal was there that day just looking at it. Perfectly fine.

[Steve Gruber]

You received death threats?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Yes, sir.

[Steve Gruber]

What were Some of the death threats. Could you tell us about that?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

I had people saying that they were going to be at my house waiting for me to get home and they were going to shoot me. I had people telling me to kill myself. A lot of different things. But I know nobody can proclaim anything over me because I wake up every morning with victory, with Christ.

[Steve Gruber]

Amen. That's exactly right. You had a threat against your life, somebody saying that they were going to

[Senator Ron Johnson]

come to your house and murder you.

[Steve Gruber]

And your school's response was dismissive, completely outrageous. This is the left's version of tolerance. Every faith is welcome except the one that built Western civilization and this republic. But Christians are becoming emboldened more than ever before to stand up for their faith and against the destruction of our country under Joe Biden. Christians were the villains under Trump. That war on faith, at least from the federal government, is over. Our leaders aren't perfect, far from it. But this is why it's so important to have leaders who acknowledge and celebrate celebrate our nation as a Christian nation. Which it is. The loud screams Christian nationalism every time someone mentions God and country in the same sentence. But let's set the record straight with history they cannot erase. Our founding fathers weren't secular humanists dreaming up some godless experiment. They were overwhelmingly shaped by Christian thought and theology and morality. Patrick Henry, a founding father and governor of Virginia, declared this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians. Not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. John Adams, our second president, said the general principles on which our independence was achieved were the general principles of Christianity. He warned that our Constitution was made only for moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration, called the Scriptures the best foundation for civil government. Even Thomas Jefferson, not an evangelical, rooted our rights in the Creator. Read the Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The founding Fathers belief in separation of church and state was never intended to purge God from the public square. They understood that without the moral restraints of Christianity, liberty becomes licensed and republics collapse. Contrast that with today's left. They celebrate every other religion in schools and government while sneering at crosses and nativity scenes. They tear under God out of the pledge. They boot the ten Commandments from courthouses. Even the so called Christian Democrats are ashamed of their faith. Like James Talarico, who claims to be a Christian but has described God as non binary in defense of the LGBTQ agenda. Here's his take.

[James Talarico]

Many of our fellow Christians, specifically those who serve an elected office, they are attempting to use their power as elected officials and the power of the state, the power of the government, to force their understanding of Christianity down other people's throats. Specifically our Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, atheist, agnostic neighbors. And those are the exact neighbors who we are called to love as ourselves. And I don't know about you, Jamie, but I don't want anyone's religion forced down my throat. Certainly don't want it coming from a government, from a state. So why would I do that to anyone else? I think that's the basic test we have to apply.

[Steve Gruber]

The left sidelines Christianity and pushes policies that mock biblical sexuality, redefine marriage and family, and treat unborn life as disposable. Their tolerance is a one way street for open borders, for foreign faiths, iron fist for American Christians and more. Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to cover it. But friends, the tide is turning. Under President Trump, we're seeing a restoration. Churches are being encouraged, not investigated. Faith based initiatives are back. Thank God. This is our moment. The radical left tried to remake America in a godless image. They failed. Under Trump, we're reclaiming our heritage as a beacon of faith, freedom, and yes, a nation whose soul has always been Christian. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And that's the monologue coming up. After the break, I'll bring on Senator Rod Johnson to discuss a new analysis on pediatric deaths tied to the COVID jab. But before that, a quick announcement from my good friend Bo Davidson with some exciting news from Real America's music foreign. Fans. We are auctioning off a piece of musical history.

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Have a great day. I heart Radio. A new controversy is emerging over claims tied to COVID 19 jabs and their efficacy and safety in kids. A recent FDA analysis was released by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, including a memo that showed at least 10 pediatric deaths following the jab. Join me to discuss. This is U.S. senator Ron Johnson. Senator, nice to see you today. I'm glad you released this because without folks like you on Capitol Hill, we would just be in the dark all the time. Tell me about this report and how concerning it is to you. Because if it's 10, what's the real number?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yeah, my main concern is it dramatically understates the problem here. You know, in any of these analyses, you're going to have doctors doing the analysis. And by the way, it's very difficult to get autopsies during the pandemic. Medical professors didn't want to know. There are very few autopsies. The NIH or CDC FDA reviewed 96 autopsies of children and came up with about 10 they thought were possible or probable. Now, from my standpoint, when you look at the data, safety signals were screaming at you. Best way to describe this is currently on VAERS, you have almost 1.7 million total adverse events. You have 39,000 deaths. These are worldwide figures. Of the 39,000 deaths, 24% occurred on the day of vaccination or within one or two days. So the FDA officials always say, well, yeah, but VAERS doesn't prove causation. And that's true. But again, if you were perfectly healthy and you went and got a jab and you died that day or within one or two days, I know what I would be blaming. Now, there may be cases where people were in bad health anyway and that just tipped them over. And really the cause of death society, something else. But the bigger revelation, Steve, was what we unveiled three weeks ago, which is still not being covered by the mainstream media and that is that on March 1, 2021, Peter Marks, the head of CBER, the division within EPI that approves vaccines, then surveils the safety of them after Approval was briefed that their algorithm that analyzed the VAER safety system was going to hide and mask safety signals. 26 days later, he had a data run on a new algorithm that unmasked. They had 49 cases of extreme masking, revealed 25 safety signals, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction, Bell's palsy, different types of strokes. Next three months they got similar type of data runs with the new algorithm showing more safety signals, more different types of sudden death. They didn't pin a badge on Dr. Anna Sharman, who's the data mining expert that showed him this. They shunned her off to the side, they ordered her to cease and desist, and they decided to use the algorithm that they knew that they were warned was going to hide safety signals and they're clinging to that to this day. Peter Marks has gone off to work for Eli and Lilly and the entire world is in the state denial. Basically. The COVID cartel remains as powerful as it always was. I cannot get the story broadcast. I can't get an interview on cbs, abc, NBC, pbs, Mississippi, now cnn. I challenged Jake Tapper. I was on a show. Want to talk about something else? And Jake, I really want to talk about this. I'm going to send you the report. Read it, have me on. Haven't been invited back yet.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, and none of us are surprised. And I've never understood this as a journalist. It's supposed to be the relentless pursuit of truth, not the relentless pursuit of ideology. Maybe I went to a different school of journalism, but that's always been my impression. I want to ask you this quite bluntly. Is Anthony Fauci a criminal? We're past the statute of limitations, I realize, but in your mind, sir, is Anthony Fauci a criminal?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yeah, at a minimum, he lied to Congress, but at a maximum, he was part of the COVID up, of the fact that his, his injection, it's not a vaccine, it's a genetic therapy injection, was killing people. And he was part of the cabal that covered that up. Again, Steve, imagine you're somebody who's a little leery. Remember when it was under Trump, people, you know, the Democrats were going to take that vaccine, they couldn't trust Trump. But then all of a sudden Biden comes into office. Oh, yeah, everybody's got to get that jab. But let's say you want those people a little concerned about this experimental gene therapy. But you actually listened and believed to Peter Marks and President Biden and Wolinsky and this cabal telling you that, oh, this is safe and Effective. Any adverse events are rare and they're generally mild. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Get your child vaccinated so your child doesn't kill your mother, your grandparent. That's what the American public was being told. So they knew by March, they knew that there were all kinds of safety signals screaming at them.

[Steve Gruber]

Absolutely. And I applaud you, sir, for digging. Because absent you and Chuck Grassley and some of the others, we would know none of this. None of it. And I appreciate the hard work you're doing. I need to cover a couple of other things. One of the things that is just mind boggling to me in the Republican Senate majority, why is John Thune allowing the minority party to run the show and undermine this country? Because that's the way a lot of people feel. Where is the Save America Act? Where is putting America first? Why is John Thune not doing the hard work of being the Senate Majority Leader?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

He doesn't have the votes to end the filibuster. It's just that simple. And listen, there are legitimate reasons. I mean, if we're back in the minority, we want the filibuster to block the socialist legislation. The Democrats. I get that. The split in our conference right now, we all celebrated Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin when they bucked their party and preserved the filibuster. But the reality has changed. The minute Democrats have majority in the House, Senate and the presidency, they're going to end the filibuster. To accomplish their goal of turning America into one party nation. They'll pack the Supreme Court, turn D.C. and Puerto Rico into states. They'll nationalize elections, automatic registration, mail and balloting. There's a reason they flooded America with millions of illegal immigrants into sanctuary cities to plus up their numbers, get more members of Congress. You think a party that would subject America to that risk, to gain control of this country politically, would balk at changing a silly little rule here in the United States Senate? Of course not. So those of us like me who absolutely are certain Democrats on the field bus are saying, let's do it first. Let's try and prevent them from stealing the elections. Let's not let them nationalize elections. Automatic registration. Don't let them pack Supreme Court. This is our only chance of doing this. If we don't do it now, we don't get control of our elections, particularly for 2028. Again, this is a moment of truth. And there aren't enough Republicans. Not John Thune's fault. He doesn't have enough votes to end the field. Buster, right now, this requires a far more disciplined, a far better sales job coming from the president, United States, in terms of. This is why we must do this. That's why I told president when he proposed this, and I agree with him, immediately said, great. But first, lay out the agenda. What can we pass that is incredibly popular with American public, that with very narrow majorities in the House and Senate, we can actually pass legislation if we end the filibuster. We never really got that discipline list.

[Steve Gruber]

And if you can't do it now, then when? Because one last thing real quickly, sir. President Trump is stronger today than any president in modern history with his own party, period. It's not even close. We saw it again yesterday. Thomas Massie gets kicked to the curb after 14 years because he voted against the big, beautiful bill. He voted against border security. He voted against terrorists. And Trump said, you gotta go, Donald Trump. I think it was 27 for 27 yesterday. If people think Maga is dead, they're missing something important. And this is a warning for the Democrats. I'll let you weigh in. I only got about 30 seconds here. President Trump has real political clout with his voters to this day. And if he can turn them out in the midterm elections come November, the Democrats are in for a big surprise. Last word to you.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

He has to turn out the voters. I mean, we didn't turn them out after he won in 2024 for our Supreme Court election. That was crucial. Only 6% of President Trump's voters came out. So it is all about turnout. And I would caution everybody, just for example, with the primary In Kentucky, 45% of President Trump's ardent supporters, his fervent supporters, didn't follow his lead. They voted for Massie. So be a little careful. I mean, there's no doubt about it. You know, President Trump is the. You know, he is the leader of our party and his supporters. His support is strong in his supporters. But now 45% of people kind of bucked him and went for Thomas Massie. And Thomas Massie, I think, won young voters as well.

[Steve Gruber]

So let's look at the full picture

[Senator Ron Johnson]

here and understand that we need a large tent and we need to make politics additive, not subtractive.

[Steve Gruber]

Senator, always good to talk to you, sir. Thank you for being here.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Have a great day.

[Steve Gruber]

All right, after the break, a shocking story involving our own RAV correspondent, Oscar Ramirez, who's been receiving death threats after investigating mass graves in Mexico. He'll join me next. Now in a breaking Story earlier this year, Real America's Voice Espanol exposed the mass graves and secret cartel labs in Jalisco, Mexico. Since the report aired, our RAV correspondent Oscar Ramirez has been the target of death threats across all of his social media while he and his team continue to risk their lives to document the cartel's brutal reign of terror. Here to discuss this deadly price of telling the truth in Mexico, Oscar Ramirez. Oscar, nice to see you today. You put it out there every day. I mean, you've gone to the Darien Gap when it was dangerous, you went to the border when it was dangerous. You were all over during the Biden years. But now you're poking the bear of the cartels, and they don't seem to like it much. What can you tell us

[Oscar Ramirez]

to do this documentary to expose why the Trump administration has designated all these criminal organizations as terrorist organizations. And one of the biggest things is the mass graves, missing people that have been happening in Mexico. And we went to the part in the epicenter of more missing people in the country and in the continent that is Jalisco. We went to a particular place where we found a body. And after we found this body, there was a lot of people, you know, coming around the area. You know, we had a couple of guys that were armed that they were telling us and asking us what we were doing there. And we understood that we were making them uncomfortable. The whole criminal organization was present there around the neighborhood after that. And I came back, we were putting together this mini documentary to release on Real America's Voice News. And, you know, the collective group, the searcher group of these people that they have found these bodies, they told me, oscar, can you stand by a little bit? We're receiving a lot of death threats directly into our homes. And, you know, this inevitably, what trickle was to. Directly to me. And now they have been instigating, particularly directed to my social media, you know, threatened my life again, to stop exposing these, you know, the mass graves and stop exposing where they're hiding these people and where they're basically, you know, putting these people in. Back in the backyards and empty lands, empty parking lots and stuff like that.

[Steve Gruber]

But you have not slowed down, Oscar. You've put your head down, you've covered the story. The documentary is still in process. Can you. Can you cross the finish line? Do you feel safe enough to get it done?

[Oscar Ramirez]

Absolutely. Absolutely. We're not going to back down. Absolutely. In no way possible. This is what the Trump administration has demonstrated. The whole world, they're not backing down. And we have now the power to completely fight against these people. And we're not going to shut our voices. And Real America's Voice news goes to the places that nobody else wants to go and shows the reality that nobody else wants to show. So we're not backing down. We're going to put this documentary, hopefully this weekend for the production. And Real America's boys used to have it and for them to expose it as soon as they want to.

[Steve Gruber]

Last question, Oscar, because these cartels, they have a lot of money and a lot of firepower, as you've showed us as well in the past. What's it going to take to break the cartels?

[Oscar Ramirez]

You know, it's actually something that has never happened in history. Marco Rubio and the Trump administration are pressuring Mexico like nobody else in history. The most important thing, what they're doing is exposing the dirty politicians. They just recently exposed the governor of Culiacan, you know, Rocha, and he had to leave his presence as being governor because of these accusations. Also the Mayor Insunza, also that is involved in that area. It is, you know, historic what the Trump administration is doing. They dismantled five laboratories a couple of days ago. This due to the pressure and the intelligence of the American government giving to the Mexican government. They don't have no other option. There's no other negotiation. The Trump administration wants to destroy the criminal organizations in Mexico. They want to destroy these cartels, and they're going after them and they're pressuring the Mexican politicians to do so because they know they're dirty laundry. And if they do not, they do not comply. Excuse me, with what the American government is telling them that they need to cooperate. Well, they're going to expose them more. So there's a lot of events that they're doing over here right now.

[Steve Gruber]

As always, Oscar, keep safe and keep telling the truth. My friend. Godspeed. Thank you.

[Oscar Ramirez]

Thank you so much, Steve, for the invitation.

[Steve Gruber]

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[Emily Sturg]

Yeah, that's the bottom line issue here is graduation should be a time of celebration of everybody. And look, this spring, as a reporter for the Leadership Institutes campus reform, so far I've exposed 10 universities for hosting these illegal alien graduation ceremonies. But honestly, I'm not shocked to see schools like those in the University of California system, Rutgers University, the University of Washington. I'm not shocked to see any of them hosting these events. Well, because I've been reporting them since, since last year on your show. But what's different this year? We're now a year into the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration. And while these universities are deciding to make these ceremonies private, they are committed to keeping them intimate because, well, they don't want Tom Homan or ICE to show up as unwelcomed guests. So they're being very secretive. They're being very smart about this. They're only revealing the location to confirmed attendees because they don't want these students to face deportation but that's exactly what should happen. Because we're talking about university students who are here breaking our nation's laws. They're stealing American taxpayer funded resources, and they're stealing classroom seats away from our American students at federally funded universities.

[Steve Gruber]

You know, you mentioned that it's paid for these graduations with taxpayer dollars. But many of these states, these sanctuary states, if you will, Emily, they also help foot the bill. These kids that are here illegally, these illegal aliens, get tuition at a fraction of the cost of people that actually grew up here. That's not right either.

[Emily Sturg]

No, it's not. And the Department of Education, the Department of Justice should be all over every single university that's hosting one of these ceremonies. Because chances are, if they're hosting one of these ceremonies, they're probably also providing taxpayer funded resources, scholarships, other things for illegal alien students too. Over 20 states at this point in time still provide these discounted in state tuition rates to illegal alien students. And I've reported household schools like the University of Michigan, for instance, spent over $100,000 on scholarships for illegal alien students, covering everything from technology to tuition to food to housing. Look, that's money that could go to American students. It's absolutely a slap in the face to taxpayers. But more than anything, it's a slap in the face to American students who are taking out student loans to pay these massive tuition bills. And then they see illegal aliens getting discounted tuition rates and getting these celebrations, getting their own private graduation ceremonies.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, private funding, private graduation, all of it. Emily, greatly appreciate the work you do every day. Thank you for being here.

[Emily Sturg]

Thanks so much for having me.

[Steve Gruber]

Of course. Don't go anywhere. America's Voice live will continue after a brief break. But first, a quick sneak peek at Real America's Voice special this weekend celebrating freedom in honor of Memorial Day.

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[Steve Gruber]

Well, you know, it's election season, so what happens? Well, there's some new virus to be frightened of. It's the hantavirus. Once again making headlines as health officials track the deadly Andy's strain of hantavirus. It's a rare version of the virus linked to possible, and I emphasize possible human to human transmission. It sparked new questions about whether the virus could be changing, evolving, and whether existing treatments like hydroxychloroquine may have some effect against it. That being said, many are now watching closely to see whether this outbreak could become a bigger problem. Joining me to discuss is epidemiologist and an administrator for the McCullough Foundation, Nicholas Hoelscher. Nicholas, nice to see you again. All right, so it's hantavirus today, it's Ebola tomorrow, bird flu the day after that. But look, the problem is during COVID they blew all their credibility. And so my concern, honestly is this. When a real pandemic comes along, people are gonna just shrug their shoulders and keep going when it really is dangerous because we've desensitized people. Is that a concern for you?

[Nicholas Hoelscher]

Yeah, it is a concern. And I say that because not only did they botch the COVID pandemic, but now they have actually botched the hantavirus outbre, really pushed some fear on that, and now it actually appears at this point in time, it's going to be a dead end outbreak. In fact, there's been zero confirmed cases in the United States and zero confirmed cases in those not on the cruise ship with this Andy strain. And so, yeah, we're not particularly worried and we don't really trust anything that comes out of the World Health Organization's mouth.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, and how could you? So the hantavirus, it comes from the fecal matter of rodents, right? Mice, rats, whatever. It doesn't transmit easily between humans. But also all of this hype and all of this feeding the news cycle. What's the truth?

[Nicholas Hoelscher]

Yeah, well, when we talk about human to human transmission, there's a shocking point that not many people are aware of. There's been a systematic review. So that's a study that looks at every single study on something. So there was a systematic review on the Andes strain, the same strain on the cruise ship, they looked at 22 studies. And when looking at 22 studies, looking at 22 outbreaks, they found no credible evidence of efficient human to human transmission. So we believe it does not pose a large risk of a pandemic whatsoever. Again, I'll reiterate, this is most definitively going to be a dead end outbreak.

[Steve Gruber]

But the truth is there are viruses out there that can be dangerous and maybe it's a bird flu, maybe it's something else, but there are viruses that can be dangerous and you have to be prepared for that. I'm not saying trust the World Health Organization. I'm with you on that one. How can you trust that organization? But I trust history and the fact that viruses do come along from time to time, that can potentially be very dangerous. What about hydroxychloroquine? What about ivermectin? What about these as potential cures for some of these illnesses?

[Nicholas Hoelscher]

Yeah, well, hantavirus, obviously it is dangerous. You know, it does have a 30, 40% fatality rate, so you don't want to get it. And yeah, we have hydroxychloroquine, which, there's actually been a study looking at it, the other derivative of it, chloroquine, and it has shown potent antiviral activity against the Andes virus. And so we see that, and we also saw in animals, they even looked in animals, it did prevent replication of the virus. So in a real living model. And we know that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, across hundreds of studies exert potent antiviral activity against single stranded RNA viruses like the hantavirus, like Ebola, like SARS, CoV2, like all of these viruses, because hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin act as zinc ionophores. They allow zinc to enter the cell. And once the zinc is in the cell, it inhibits what's called RNA dependent RNA polymerase. You inhibit that on the virus, it won't be able to replicate. So this is some very promising research. We believe it will have some activity against particularly the hantavirus. But you know, obviously we would need some large scale human studies to confirm that.

[Steve Gruber]

So studies have been done here over years with both these medications you talk about. So unlike the COVID jab, they actually did research. What an idea. Actually look into it and see if it actually works. Before you line up billions of people to take a jab in the arm, what do you recommend for people to be prepared?

[Nicholas Hoelscher]

Yeah, so the wellness company does have a contagion kit that has both hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin in it. And so this is something very solid to have. Right. Especially if you go on a cruise ship, you get locked down, locked in by the World Health Organization saying you can't leave. You'd want to have it on hand, particularly given that we know it has broad scale antiviral effects.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. And that's just one of many kits available from the wellness company. The contagion kit comes in the black box. It has a whole assortment of medications.

[Real America's Voice Announcer]

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[Steve Gruber]

Locking people in their cabin, on the boat, that's about the worst thing they could have done. You know, the advice is just awful. Unbelievable. But thank you for being here and bringing some common sense to the conversation. I do appreciate it.

[Nicholas Hoelscher]

Thanks for having me.

[Steve Gruber]

And look, the wellness company been putting together the gold standard for these kits for years. The original one is right here in my hand. It's called the medical emergency kit. This was the original one that came out. The contagion kit comes in a black box. They have the best first aid kit you can get. Trust me, I've used it a few times because, well, maybe I'm clumsy, but they have a travel kit, a kit for kids, all sorts of things. Just go to TWC Health voice. You use the promo code voice, you're going to save 10% and you can find the kit that best fits your lifestyle. If you're going on vacation, you just toss it in your luggage. Again, that's TWC Health Voice promo code voice to save 10%. And look, I've got them here all the time. You should, too. Coming up after the break, we'll tell you what makes America wonderful. Plus answers to the America's voice question of the day. What are your thoughts on Thomas Massie losing the Republican primary in Kentucky? I'll be right back.

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[Steve Gruber]

What makes America wonderful. We do it every day in the hopes of putting a smile on your face. Now imagine getting all of your lawn needs and messy acres taken care of in a couple of hours while disrupting the noise of, you know, lawnmowers and weed whips neighborhoods around Washington, D.C. are doing just that. They are opting out of noisy mornings and afternoons filled with lawnmowers and all that noise, struggling with the overgrown yards and instead are opting to, you know, go natural, letting some hard working baby doll south down sheep take care of the problem. The company Lamb Mowers transports the flock to homes and businesses across the area, fencing them into the areas that need to be cut or eaten as the case may be. Your professional landscapers will find competition with these natural grass munchers who are very effective at clearing noxious weeds and grazing the grass right on down. With the job typically taking two hours, turns out the old ways can be better and people who have used lamb mower services have greatly enjoyed hiring these sheep to do what they do best, eat and fertilize the lawn. Oftentimes the service even feels like animal therapy in your yard. It's friendly and easy to work with, breed easily, brings smiles to the landowners. Even the neighbors get excited to see the baby doll sheep. Quite the opposite effect of the typical Loudmoors that might wake you up on a Saturday morning in your neighbor's yard and not make you so happy. What makes America wonderful is when companies with ingenuity can use the natural resources we already have to do something pretty cool. Look, they can live in my yard. I want a free ranging goat. Is that wrong? No, it's not wrong. What are your thoughts on Thomas Massie losing the Republican primary in Kentucky? Quinton writes, Kentucky Republican voters upon review felt a new candidate was necessary. Performance rate based primary based on the will of the elected while elections are important. 25:57 BS he will join Democrats for revenge. Maybe he already has. Boatrider615 While I acknowledge the Senator was elected to represent Kentucky, the moment he acted against the President who received the highest number of votes in American history, he lost support of the voters. Thune, you're next. Doug Kyle, I understand his reasoning, but he needed to manage his actions better. He came off as an obstructionist in key periods. Reasonableness versus combative. Negotiate and move forward, not dig your heels in and go against the team. Yeah, that was part of the problem. We'll leave it there for today. Really good to see you on a Wednesday. I greatly appreciate you spending time with us here on Real America's Voice. Remember to start your day with Daybreak. Ivy and I join you at 6am every morning to have hot coffee. Great coffee conversation analysis. Of course she's more popular than I am, but I can live with that. Don't forget to join us and send me an email. SteveGruber.com SteveGruber.com Send me an email. Let me know what's going on in your neighborhood. We'll talk soon.