STINCHFIELD TONIGHT JANUARY 23RD, 2026

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – Stinchfield Tonight (January 23, 2026)

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Grant Stinchfield
Air Date: January 24, 2026
Episode Theme: Challenging Left-Wing Narratives on ICE, Media Bias, and Political Accountability

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Stinchfield Tonight" on Real America’s Voice delves deep into the viral story of a five-year-old boy connected with an ICE arrest in Minneapolis, the mainstream media’s portrayal of law enforcement, ongoing political hypocrisy, and the broader narratives shaping contemporary American politics. Grant Stinchfield is joined by guests including Curtis Houck (Media Research Center), John Strand (J6 defendant and congressional candidate), Jennifer Horn (Morning Answer), and Greg Hartley (body language expert).

Throughout, the episode emphasizes media bias, double standards in law enforcement, political desperation among Democrat leaders, and cultural observations, all through a lens of American patriotism and skepticism toward “mainstream” narratives.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Viral ICE and the Five-Year-Old Boy Controversy ([03:44–10:00])

• Stinchfield lays out the timeline of a widely-shared image: A five-year-old boy, son of an illegal Ecuadorian immigrant, was left outside in the Minnesota cold after his father fled ICE agents.
  • The left-leaning media claimed ICE “detained” the boy and used him as "bait." Stinchfield asserts this is "fake news": The father abandoned his son, ICE agents took care of him, then tried to return him home but were refused entry—so they fed him at McDonald's.
• Grant Stinchfield:

  "You have this Democrat congresswoman from Minnesota, Angie Craig ... I can't even believe you’re a congresswoman and so dumb to not realize you’re being duped unless you’re pushing the propaganda on us on purpose." (08:08)

• Stinchfield claims near-total media bias—93% negative coverage of ICE—per a Media Research Center study.

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2. Media Bias & Political Narrative ([10:00–15:23])

• Curtis Houck (Newsbusters, MRC): Analyzes media priorities, showing disproportionate coverage of the ICE incident relative to other serious local violence.
  • Notes how the “bait” narrative was debunked—even the Washington Post corrected its story.
  • Critiques Rep. Angie Craig and her primary contest, highlighting performative politics.
  • Points to a lack of coverage for victims of illegal immigrant crime ("Angel Moms") and the statistical misrepresentation of immigrant crime rates.

  • "Every time a conservative brings this up ... they get hit with, ‘illegal immigrants commit less crime than native-born citizens.’ That’s a complete joke because all illegal immigrant crimes should not be happening, period." (12:26)

• Stinchfield advances the point with a local example of underreported minority-on-minority crime.

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3. Protests, Double Standards, and J6 Comparisons ([15:35–22:56])

• Stinchfield draws a parallel between Minneapolis protests (including church disruptions) and treatment of January 6th defendants.
• John Strand (J6 defendant): Joins to discuss differences in “equal justice under the law,” accusing the Biden DOJ of punitive double standards.

  “We are not seeing equal justice under the law. Americans’ skin crawls at double standards ... The egregious treatment ... it’s disgusting, it’s abhorrent. But our reaction is not to say you should treat these folks storming a church ... as J6ers were treated." (18:56)

• The topic broadens to law enforcement and due process, with discussion of an ICE memo allowing home entry via administrative (not judicial) warrants.

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4. Public Forums and "Trump Derangement" at Anti-ICE Events ([23:03–25:40])

• Stinchfield recounts Ben Berkwam’s confrontation at a Baltimore anti-ICE library event: refusal to allow recording, accusations of disruption, and claims of being ejected from a public forum.

  "They don’t want it videotaped because they want to hide what they’re saying from the American public. If you believe in what you're saying, there should be no problem putting it on TV." (25:28)

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5. Gavin Newsom at World Economic Forum: "Desperate and Disingenuous" ([28:34–35:43])

• Segment focuses on California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s awkward trip to Davos and his public statements:
  • Newsom’s “knee pads” comment and comparison of Trump to a Tyrannosaurus Rex ridiculed as politically desperate and tone-deaf.

  • Jennifer Horn: “What you see from Gavin Newsom is a guy who is desperate ... He’s like a pick-me guy. And I think what you’re seeing is him implode because he doesn’t know what he stands for.” (31:13)

  • Newsom’s touting of universal healthcare for all, regardless of immigration status, is critiqued as emblematic of fiscal irresponsibility and subject of ongoing investigations.

  • Grant Stinchfield: “He admitted, by the way, on that very stage to giving over a billion dollars in federal money to illegal immigrants. ... He’s a disaster and he has nothing important to say.” (33:10)

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6. Minnesota: Outlandish Headlines and Somali Community Focus ([35:45–50:54])

• Introduction of "The Somali Waltz," satirizing political focus on Minnesota's immigrant communities.
• Stinchfield plays a cultural clip where a Somali woman compares her experience to “bananas and rice,” ultimately using this as a metaphor for cultural friction and misunderstanding.

• “Bananas and rice. I love bananas and I like rice. Just not together. And I hate fraud. Especially fraud being committed.” (50:54)

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7. Body Language, Behavior Analysis, and Media Personalities ([38:17–47:16])

• Greg Hartley, body language and behavior expert, joins for a review of recent video clips:

  • Don Lemon: Shows “certainty” when allegedly in on protest plans; “uncertainty” when denying involvement, as evidenced by body language (brow movement, hand gestures).

    > “When a person raises their brow, they’re asking for approval ... When people are telling something that’s not true, they’re often uncertain because their brain knows the truth and their mouth is trying to say something else.” (39:05–41:34)
    

  • Greg’s quick tip: Large hand illustrators signal honesty; lack thereof may indicate dishonesty.
  • Analysis of confrontational body language between a Green Beret and former MPD officer Fanon: “The SF guy is under absolute control ... The guy who’s red-faced is fighting off fight-or-flight. You’re more liable to make a mistake.” (44:25)
  • Brief segment on quarterback Fernando Mendoza’s “goofy” on-field demeanor.

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8. Medicaid Fraud in Minnesota: Dr. Oz Investigates ([47:16–50:54])

• Dr. Oz, now described as Trump’s Medicare administrator, investigates suspicious Medicaid billing in a Minneapolis office building.
• $380 million in taxpayer money allegedly bilked by “400 businesses” in one building, observed by “watch groups” that videotape investigators.

• “When was the last time the head of Medicare or Medicaid would put together a video like this as such a great communicator?” (47:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Stinchfield on ICE coverage:

  “93% of the coverage has been negative. I want to bring in now ... Curtis Houck.” (09:12)

• Curtis Houck rebuts immigrant crime statistics:

  “That’s a complete joke because ... all illegal immigrant crimes should not be happening, period.” (12:26)

• John Strand on justice:

  “Americans’ skin crawls at double standards and unfairness.” (18:56)

• Jennifer Horn on Gavin Newsom:

  “He has no moral base, he has no integrity in his leadership ... It’s so disingenuous.” (31:13)

• Greg Hartley on body language:

  “Large illustrators mean the person is being more honest. Lack of illustrators is a good indicator that you’re not being honest.” (41:34)

• Stinchfield satirizes cultural misunderstandings:

  “Bananas and rice. I love bananas and I like rice. Just not together.” (50:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• ICE viral incident context and media coverage: 03:44–10:00
• Curtis Houck on media priorities: 10:02–15:23
• J6 comparisons, John Strand: 15:35–22:56
• Anti-ICE event confrontation: 23:03–25:40
• Gavin Newsom at WEF: 28:34–35:43
• Somali community segment: 35:45–50:54
• Body language review with Greg Hartley: 38:17–47:16
• Dr. Oz investigates Medicaid fraud in MN: 47:16–50:54

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Episode Tone & Style

• The episode maintains a combative, assertive, and at times sarcastic tone, reflective of the host and guests’ stance against leftwing narratives and perceived mainstream media distortions.
• Language is informal, highly opinionated, and occasionally pointed—meant to resonate with a conservative, populist audience.

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Conclusion

This episode threads together the recent ICE incident in Minneapolis, the broader themes of media manipulation, law and order, and Democrat leadership failings, all underlined by a call for “real news and honest views.” The guests, through sharp commentary and occasional humor, reinforce skepticism toward mainstream reporting and advocate for more transparency, accountability, and traditional American values.

Transcript

[Grant Stinchfield]

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Welcome back everybody. You're watching this special addition of Stitchfield as they open up this new center at Fort Bragg. We will continue to keep an eye on that. But right now I want to begin Stitchfield. And let me tell you something. If you thought the lies of the left couldn't get any worse. Have you heard about this story with this five year old boy? This picture is going viral on social media. It is of a five year old boy, the son of an illegal alien. If you listen to the leftist media, the leftist media will somehow want you to believe that ICE kidnapped that little boy and detained that little boy, used him as bait, that little boy. But none of that happened. I'll get into that in a moment. None of it happened. Just watch this. Growing outrage in Minneapolis.

[Announcer/Ad Read Voice]

The images of a five year old boy returning home from preschool, detained by ICE agents taking the boy and his father into custody. Vice President J.D. vance in Minneapolis today defending ICE agents claiming they were protecting the child, saying.

[Grant Stinchfield]

What are they supposed to do? Matt Rivers in Minneapolis again tonight. Tonight, the haunting images sparking a firestorm. A preschool boy standing in the Minnesota cold, swept up in the ICE crackdown. You hear the drama. Haunting images. Do you know what's haunting the father? This guy. An illegal alien from Ecuador ran from ICE agents who were trying to detain him and left his kid behind in the driveway. One agent stayed behind while the other agents went and captured that man. They stayed behind to take care of that little boy. They even tried to return him home, but they wouldn't let him in the door. No one would open the door. So you know what these agents did? They took him to McDonald's. But if you listen to the leftist mainstream media that is literally weaponizing the fake news of the Democrats, you would get a completely different story. This is Ana Navarro.

[Jennifer Horn]

The fact that ICE used a five year old boy, Liam Ramos detained a five year old boy to bait his father into coming out. The fact that ICE barged into the house of an elderly US citizen and dragged him out of the shower in Minneapolis in his underwear in 14 degree weather. So if you want accountability, you need to get this rage. Channel it to.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Lies again. It's fake news and so yeah, the dopes will believe it and take to the streets. And that is what is happening. I want you to listen to how ICE describes what happened after conducting the arrest. My officer stayed with the child. They cared for him, took him to get something to eat from a drive through restaurant and spent hours ensuring he was taken care of again. My officers did that, not his father. My officers did everything they could to reunite him with his family. Tragically, when we approached the door of his residence, the people inside refused to take him in and open the door. What reason would that gentleman have to lie about all of this? None. You're here illegally under this administration. You're going to have to look behind your your shoulder, look over it. ICE may be coming and that means you know What? Your kids, you better find a place for them. ICE took care of this little boy humanely, compassionately taking him to McDonald's, for crying out loud. You have this Democrat congresswoman from Minnesota, Angie Craig, listen to this.

[Jennifer Horn]

So now ICE is using a five year old boy, A five year old boy. They took him and used him to lure his father out. You can look at this 5 year old and actually with a straight face, still support and be silent in the face of what the Trump administration and Kristi Noem is doing. I just can't even believe this is America.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I can't even believe you're a congresswoman and so dumb to not realize you're being duped unless you're pushing the propaganda on us on purpose, which that probably would make a lot more sense. Now the corporate media is simply running this fake news on behalf of Democrats. Do you remember when President Trump just a few days ago was holding up the pictures of these illegal aliens who were accused of some of the most heinous things. Rape of children, murder, burglary, going into somebody's house and taking their things. Awful, awful crimes. This is how NBC News played it. He's been holding photos of people he.

[Announcer/Ad Read Voice]

Says are undocumented immigrants, in his words.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Illegal aliens who have committed crimes in Minnesota. I want to bring in our senior White House correspondent, Gabe Gutierrez. Gabe, we don't know really anything about these people. We've seen some of their images, but we don't have their names yet. We hope at some point the White House will tell us who he's talking about. But this was new to everyone that was covering this news conference today. Well, Tom, look, this is the White.

[John Strand]

House trying to make a case.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You're accusing the President of the United States of lying about who the people are in the photos. If you'd go to a news conference and cover it, honestly, that ICE holes or Greg Bevino, one of the chiefs out on the streets hold. They talk about who they're arresting on a daily basis and they're very, very bad people. Now if you look, thanks to our friends over the Media Research Center. Take a look at this. They did a study, 93% of the leftist media, all they do is hammer ICE. 93% of the coverage has been negative. Negative. I want to bring in now managing editor over at Newsbusters at the Media Research Center. Curtis Hauck is back with us. Curtis, welcome to the program.

[Curtis Hauck]

Good to be with you, my friend.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Curtis. It was bad before this five year old story, but today it got out of control. Your thoughts on what we're seeing out there.

[Curtis Hauck]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, I'm still crunching the numbers right now for Newsbusters, but through this morning we were at over 10 minutes of coverage on this little boy alone, whereas we're only about four minutes in change through this morning when it came to the anti ice mob storming a church. So you can definitely tell there where the priorities are. And then the coverage, they've continued to use that bait word because the awfuls that seem to run the school district, all the people that were talking, other than the attorney you notice, are all middle aged, raging white women. They claimed they used the bait word and of course that's thoroughly been debunked. Even the Washington Post has ran a correction in one of their articles about Minneapolis that, that this is not true at all. Angie Craig, that clip you played there, she's in a tough primary against like a literal sociopath, Peggy Flanagan, who, whether it's trans. Right. She'll wear a trans T shirt. If she needs to suck up to the Somali, she'll dona burka. You know, it doesn't really matter. And when it comes to the narrative, the vice president was absolutely right to point out and the media will not lean into this. The reality that you look at, yes, there's been problems in other cities, we won't deny that, but there's been, you know, blue cities, but there hasn't been mass chaos to the same degree that we've seen in Minneapolis. And then finally on that last clip, you point out, you know this from being in local news, like when local officials say something. Yes. You don't have to necessarily trust what they say right off the bat. So you go look it up yourself. You know, news organizations have a way of looking up people's criminal records.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Curtis, I'm going to ask your opinion. I just, I'm going off the fly here. I wasn't going to bring this up today. There was a shooting at my son's high school yesterday, inner city Dallas, a shooting. A Hispanic kid in the parking lot of the school killed another Hispanic kid. Allegedly, it was an accident, shot him in the chest. The kid's dead. There's no national media coverage of this. If they really care about Hispanics, about minorities, why wouldn't they be talking about Hispanic on Hispanic crime or black on black crime? They're so focused on ice. We have kids killing each other in the streets. That was at my kids high school. I have not seen any coverage of that on a national level.

[Curtis Hauck]

You know, and that goes into perpetual victimhood. And that would also require the left to admit that in a lot of these cities and school districts they've been run by raging leftists for multiple lifetimes at this point. So because admitting that would lead them to say, well, these are, we've been engaged in institutional capture and as a result of that, these cities and schools have not really gone anywhere. So that would lead people to consider maybe we should let other people try running the show for once. And we can't have that. And also the other thing that's not being covered is the angel moms and the families that have been affected by illegal immigrant crime instead. Grant, anytime someone brings this up, the rare time a good conservative is on cable news, they'll get hit with the well, illegal immigrants commit less crime than native born citizens. I mean, that's a complete joke because you think about it, while all illegal immigrant crimes should not be happening, period. So those are all people that should still be alive that aren't. And this goes to the left's refusal to accept and value life. On this day, we mark the march for life. And you know, think about somebody like Tom Homan. He gets very passionate in talking about how gangs and coyotes have taken advantage of migrant children. Where is all the coverage of that, of the border agents showing compassion for those five year olds dumped in the desert?

[Grant Stinchfield]

They don't care about them. I really do believe that and it's not even hard for me to say anymore. They don't care. All they want to do is spur controversy and chaos and try to make President Trump and conservatives look bad. I'm going to run one more clip for you, Curtis, to get your response because apparently this bias has now made its way into sports as well. This is a reporter interviewing Amanda Anismova, who is a great American tennis player. Listen to the question. I've been asking a lot of the American players just how it feels to.

[Curtis Hauck]

Play under the American flag right now. And I'm curious how you feel.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, I mean, I was born in America, so I'm always proud to represent my country. And yeah, a lot of us are doing really well. Just to clarify a little, I mean.

[Curtis Hauck]

Sort of in the context of the.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Last year of everything that's been happening in the, in the U.S. does that complicate that feeling at all? I don't think that's relevant. I mean, what a joke. Curtis Media Research center found that clip for us. Your thoughts?

[Curtis Hauck]

Yeah, that's a reporter with the Athletic, which was kind of its own nice sports media thing. Behind a paywall. And then guess what? The New York Times bought it. Oh, my gosh. And you can tell now that all makes sense. The soy boy that they sent there, his tone of questioning, the fact that he kept hammering away at it, it's down in Australia, which I think the people of Australia should. Maybe the question should be asked of the Australian players because of what their country has done in their refusal to protect their Jewish citizens when it comes to America. I mean, she's very grateful and she was kind of shocked, but I'm glad she kept her attitude just kind of shrugging her shoulders, which is what we should all do.

[Grant Stinchfield]

She didn't take the bait, and that's good news. Curtis Hauck, it's great having you on the program. You guys do such great work over there at Curtis Haug on X and at Newsbusters is the organization as well. Thank you, buddy.

[Curtis Hauck]

Thanks, Grant. Take care.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. So all of that pushing, the lies, the encouraging the chaos, drumming up, ginning up the outrage, this is a result of all of that. Take a look at this. That, folks, is at the Minneapolis airport now. You think they're garnering any support as they bother travelers who are just trying to make a plane? No, of course not. A hundred people were arrested there. They lined them all up and they arrested them as well they should. Now, remember, they also arrested those church disruptors, the ones that stormed that church in Minneapolis. This was one of the guys they arrested, by the way, which is so fitting. So, you know, Pam Bondi, you want to come and arrest me? You want to come and give me charges? So be it. And for all the people getting, you know, giving me death threats, threatening my life, kill me. Go ahead, kill me. Because you know what? As Fred Hampton said, you can kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution. Well, guess what? They got you. You asked for it. Pam Bondi and her henchmen came for you. But they're not really henchmen. They're law enforcement officers who are just enforcing the law and arresting you for going in and literally blowing a lid off of a church service, which is illegal. I want to bring in now to discuss all of this. J6 Political prisoner and now Republican congressional candidate in Florida. My good friend John Strand is back. John, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me on, Grant. Great to be with you, John. You know, I thought of you because I wanted to make this parallel, I think of what the left did to us. Really? You? I say us as if I'm on your team, but I didn't go nearly what you went through. Thrown in solitary confinement and held for a year after J6. We're not going to treat these people arrested like that, are we?

[John Strand]

No, nor. Nor should we.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, and that is the bottom line. I mean, let me play a clip. Roll, roll, cut. 29 for me, guys.

[Jennifer Horn]

The FBI came out of their way to Oregon to arrest my husband for four counts of walking on the grouse. Now, I believe there was some other things they were charging him felonies with, but it weren't. It wasn't even enough to. To arrest him. It's worth a fine maybe, but not that. Anyway, they took him away right then. He was mistreated in the sheriff's jail there in Washington County. Basically left naked on a concrete floor in a little concrete cell. No water, no food for 24 hours.

[Grant Stinchfield]

John, that's the wife of a J Sixer who told that story. I don't think that goon who was challenging Bonnie to arrest her is going to be lying naked on a concrete floor anywhere as he should not be. John, as you just said, what should happen to them that go into churches like this and disrupt and all of the other chaos they're creating?

[John Strand]

Well, grant justice should happen. That is the expectation and the demand of the American people. That is our birthright, liberty and justice for all. That's what we believe in and that's what this country was built on. The problem is we are not seeing equal justice under the law. Americans skin crawls at double standards and unfairness. So the egregious treatment of the DoJ, the regime under Biden that destroyed many lives and mistreated me and that woman you just showed and many others. It's disgusting, it's abhorrent. But our reaction is not to say you should treat these folks storming a church which apparently according to cnn is peaceful protests. But if you storm the Capitol, it's a deadly insurrection. The contrast here again, the double standards, the hypocrisy, this is what makes our skin crawls, Americans. So we want to see equal justice under the law. We want to see law and order in every state in this union. Again, that is our birthright, our expectation, and we demand that that be upheld. Because without law and order, grant civilization crumbles.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, I've got another clip for you. This one comes from ABC News and I find it ripe with hypocrisy, just as you spelled out the other examples there. If you could for me, guys, behind the glass. Roll cut 15 for me. We obtained memo from May shows that ICE agents could enter a suspected person's home without a judicial warrant, instead given administrative authorization according to the memo, Form I205, or the warrant of removal, slash deportation can be drafted and signed by an ICE official instead of a neutral party like a judge or a magistrate.

[Curtis Hauck]

Experts say it could mean less extreme.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Accountability and more mistakes. Talk about due process. Okay, yeah, but you didn't get it. There was no outrage on the due process for you or accountability and mistakes on behalf of the doj. There was no ABC News reporters trying to help you out.

[John Strand]

Yeah, the only thing that you're going to get from the fake news grant is, is fake sympathy and fake compassion. That is a total inversion of what those things are supposed to mean. So, like, you've done a great job showing tonight, the media is portraying ICE actions, ICE law enforcement to be abusing people. Meanwhile, you have radical leftist protesters who are literally storming a church, violating private property and terrorizing people in worship to try to make their point that what we. We shouldn't uphold the law. We shouldn't have border control and sovereignty and standards related to who's illegally allowed to be in the country. So Americans see through this and we're sick and tired of the lies, the hypocrisy and cruelty. Or mercy to the wolf is cruelty to the sheep. So why aren't they still talking about Lake and Riley and Jocelyn Nungaree and truly innocent people who have literally been murdered because of illegal alien crime. And they're not calling for law and order to be upheld to protect American citizens. They just want to have the right to storm a church and cause a bunch of ruckus and make their point and say, oh, we're the compassionate people here. It's absurd. So America's not buying it.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I'm not going to say this just because you become a buddy of mine. That is part of it too, though. But this is the kind of common sense straight talk that I believe we need in the United States Congress. John Strand, you're running for Congress. Where can people find you real quick? Give. Give the address so people can help you out.

[John Strand]

Absolutely. Join the [e-mail] the mission here is to reclaim the Republic. We need a constitutional reset and grant. It's simple. I'm running to restore courage, common sense and Judeo Christian values back into government so that we can actually end fraud, waste and abuse like what we're seeing here and deliver on what Americans actually need, which is security, law and order, affordability and accountability. We need accountability back in the government Grant. We are going to bring [e-mail] I.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Know you'll be sincere in that endeavor. 100%. John, thank you for coming on tonight.

[John Strand]

Always a pleasure. God bless you, Grant.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. You too. So you want to see the absolute lunacy of how it unfolds? I want you to take a look at this. This is my buddy Ben Berkwam, who goes to an anti ICE meeting at a library in Baltimore, Maryland. Watch what happens to him. I'm going to ask you to step out, and then we're going to have a discussion.

[Greg Hartley]

I'll sit.

[Grant Stinchfield]

No, I'm going to ask you to step out. I'll stay so that we can have a discussion. Right, but then you just close the door and say, I can't come in. The two media that you see in.

[Jennifer Horn]

The back represent the MAGA movement, the.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Trump movement, and by our own media.

[Jennifer Horn]

You cannot video.

[Grant Stinchfield]

We're going to continue this meeting without.

[Jennifer Horn]

Being disrupted by Trump.

[Grant Stinchfield]

That's right. I will not be disrupted by the trouble tonight.

[Curtis Hauck]

No recording. Trust me.

[Grant Stinchfield]

What the hell is wrong with you? Fascist out now.

[John Strand]

100 fascists out now.

[Greg Hartley]

I totally agree.

[Grant Stinchfield]

No fascists. It's a public forum.

[Jennifer Horn]

It's a private event.

[Greg Hartley]

So you have.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Excuse me. Please don't touch. Please don't touch my stuff. Please don't touch my stuff. Please don't touch me. Please don't touch me. I'm not.

[Greg Hartley]

If you're.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I'm not.

[John Strand]

I've. I have not looked for any immigrants, man.

[Grant Stinchfield]

This is Trump derangement syndrome in full force right there. Well, you were trying to attack me, man.

[John Strand]

If no one's illegal.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Wait a second. If no one's illegal, I can't. Why can't I be here tonight?

[Curtis Hauck]

By our people and submitted to city hall. Thank you. There are a few rules to make sure things run smoothly. We ask that everyone try to keep their testimony brief.

[Jennifer Horn]

All.

[Announcer/Ad Read Voice]

You know, to destroy families, to rip people apart, to.

[Grant Stinchfield]

To shoot American citizens in the head. So apparently they're canceling the event because they can't handle us being here. That's good. Why are you touching.

[Announcer/Ad Read Voice]

Asking.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't have a right to touch me. Right. And I'm leaving with everyone. I got it.

[Curtis Hauck]

Wait.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Wait a second. Wait a. So this is. This is what happens in Baltimore.

[Announcer/Ad Read Voice]

This is what.

[Curtis Hauck]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Why is nobody else being treated like this?

[Curtis Hauck]

Excuse me.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Why is nobody else being treated like this? Now they're going to start the meeting back up, be in without us.

[Greg Hartley]

In there.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Who invited you? I thought no one. No one's illegal.

[Jennifer Horn]

No one out of my building.

[Curtis Hauck]

Wow.

[Jennifer Horn]

Cuz I asked you.

[Grant Stinchfield]

This is a public forum. Excuse me, ma'.

[Jennifer Horn]

Am. Excuse me, ma'.

[Curtis Hauck]

Am.

[Grant Stinchfield]

That's a library. Now, Ben Berkwam handled that with grace and professionalism, something Ben is great at. But here's the real deal. They don't want it videotaped because they want to hide what they're saying from the American public. If you believe in what you're saying, then there should be no problems putting it on tv. I promise you, you can come to any meeting that I form and you can come videotape it. Because I believe in everything we're saying or talking about. You could hear pre meeting for this show between me and my producers, we talk about reality and what we believe in. No secrets. All right. Up next, a new year means new financial goals. Like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. It's time to talk to someone from Birch Gold Group. There are forces pushing the dollar lower and gold higher, which is why they believe every American should own physical gold. So until January 30th, if you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility, start the process. Just text America to the number 989-898. Birch Gold can take an existing IRA, roll it into a gold IRA. If you're still eligible for a rebate of up to $10,000. Yes, you are still eligible for that. Text America to the number 989-898. Claim your eligibility today. All right, Gavin Newsom went to the World Economic Forum and did nothing but wine. What's next?

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Welcome back everyone. I want to discuss the fall of Gavin Newsom. The governor of California has descended into an abyss of nobody cares about you any anymore. He goes to the World Economic Forum. He misses a speech because Trump says no, you know what, you don't get to speak here. And then he gets his little day on the, on the stage just having a discussion. But that was after he said world leaders were on their knees for President Trump. Quite a little outrageous comment to say the least. Well, he doubled down on that today. Watch this. You know the new Trump Signature series knee pads? Yeah. And they are available online. I told you the last one sold out. And, and I just want to. This is a serious moment. It actually. But we laugh. Anyway, these are available and in bulk too. But I want, I want to read you a couple of things the US government has said about you in the last 20 okay, so knee pads. Get on your knees. You know, I thought they were supposed to be the party of gay pride. What is the gay pride contingent to the Democrat Party? Think about all of that. I can tell you that one of the most prominent gay leaders in the Republican Party, Scott Besson, basically making fun of Gavin Newsom. Now watch this. I think Gavin Newsom may be cracking up with some of these things he's saying.

[Greg Hartley]

I think he may be in over his hairdo.

[Grant Stinchfield]

And being on the national stage is very different than being governor of California with no signature achievements. But to say strange things like President Trump is a Tyrannosaurus rex, what the hell does that mean? I could say Gavin Newsom was a brontosaurus with a brain the size of a walnut. And if you brought the knee pads, maybe that was for his meeting with Alex Soros. I don't know. So this is a family show but you put it together back home, just maybe mess. It's on to something. I want to bring in now to discuss this host of the Morning Answer. Jennifer Horn is back with us out in Los Angeles. Jen, welcome.

[Jennifer Horn]

Thank you. Grant. Great to see you. And did you have on your bingo card this year that Scott Bessant would be a gangsta? I mean, come on.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I did not. And I did not think that he'd be talking about Gavin Newsom using knee pads ads while hanging out with George Soro, George Soros son Alex. So, but this really signifies a downfall of the governor of your state. What do you make of all of this?

[Jennifer Horn]

Oh my gosh. Well, I think it's really interesting. You actually hit on exactly what rang ran through my brain at first. And that is apparently the guy who championed himself as the king of gay rights after standing up and parading around San Francisco looking for gay marriage when he was mayor of San Francisco, now thinks it's, it's fine to make fun of gay people. I mean, he was calling out Scott Besant. You heard him make some comments off color about Lindsey Graham and these world leaders. It seems that it's interesting that he's turned his back on that crowd. But I think Grant that what you see from Gavin Newsom is a guy who is desperate. He is desperate for President Trump to talk about him, to notice him. He's like a pick me guy. And I think what you're seeing is him implode because he doesn't know what he stands for. He is a guy who is a shape shifter and he has no moral base, he has no integrity in his leadership. And he says what he needs to say to get to the next job. And I just, this plays. It's so disingenuous.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You and I have talked a lot about one of the failures of the Democrat Party is just the way they act like betas and whiners. Now, I'm not going to say Gavin Newsom is a beta male. I actually don't actually look at him like that. But he certainly is a whiner and maybe he's moving in that direction. I want you to look at this, this response from him after his speech was canceled at the wef. Well, yeah. Have you. What the hell are they even talking about? But it's indicative, I think, of America. For those of you who are not American, it gives you a sense of what we're up against and what's happening across my country and what happened here in Davos. I was going to speak last night. It was well established event at the USA House. Simple conversation, discussion. After Trump's speech, they made sure that I didn't. They made sure it was canceled. And that's what's happening in the United States of America. I don't think so, Jennifer.

[Jennifer Horn]

I think there wasn't one tear shed over Gavin Newsom not speaking at the World Economic Forum. I'm pretty sure all the elites have plenty of martinis to sip. I don't think they missed him. But look, Gavin Newsom and Scott Bessant said it best. Gavin Newsom has zero achievements. He has nothing to run on. Everything in California has gotten worse in his eight years in office. He admitted, by the way, on that very stage to giving over a billion dollars in federal money to illegal immigrants. That means that the state that's already in deficit mode is, is now going to have to pay that money back. He's a disaster and he has nothing important to say.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I'm glad you brought that up, Jen, because why don't you listen about his great accomplishment here. Cut 5. Do I believe in universal health care? Yes. Regardless of pre existing conditions, ability to pay and your status. I campaign on that. We delivered on that and I'm proud of that. We're one of 16 states to provide care to people regardless of their immigration status. By the way, we have universal care in emergency rooms and you pay the price on the back end, at least Americans for that, regardless of your immigration status. Jan, you're right there in Los Angeles. How's that all working out for you?

[Jennifer Horn]

Now, I talked to Bill Asale, the U.S. attorney for the Central District of California on the radio show a couple of days ago and he said Gavin Newsom will be paying that money back and this guy is under investigation for fraud. So not only has he run the state into the ground and made people leave in droves, so much so that U Haul has run out of trucks and. But now he's going to be under investigation for all of this fraud and for all of the federal money that he's misspent. Yet he wants the people to trust him. And what I'm hearing more than anything are that people, even Democrats, look at Stephen A. Smith, have called him out for treasonous words against the president and our allies at the World Economic Forum. This was not his best trip. He may have made his funny joke with his knee pads, but I don't think this gained him any favor with anybody back at home.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, no, it's interesting because you said, oh, he is desperate to be noticed by President Trump. Before I let you go, Jen Horn has been noticed by President Trump. He's tweeting out your, your interviews on CNN where you're taking it to the left. And so I would urge everyone to follow you. President Trump is basically watching you at Jennifer Horn on X. And that was pretty cool, him tweeting that out.

[Jennifer Horn]

Jennifer, for made my whole week. I say make made the whole year so far, Grant. It was pretty incredible.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, there you go. Jen Horn Always great to see you. Have a great weekend.

[Jennifer Horn]

Thank you.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. All right, folks, our body language and behavior segment is next with our expert Greg Hartley. Boy, there was a lot to go through this week. Minnesota's headlines are getting wild. Tim Walls and Ilhan Omar are being accused of massive fraud and it's so bad, all you can do is laugh at this point. So from Real America's Music, the label that brought you the number one hit, anthem of the free, comes a brand new song from singer songwriter Natasha Owens, the Somali Waltz. Let's make the music industry mad and run this to number one. Scan the QR code or search the Somali Waltz on itunes and buy it right now. The Somali Waltz, available everywhere. New name, same tune.

[Jennifer Horn]

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Welcome back, everyone. Time now for our body Language segment. I want to bring in right now host of the behavior panel on YouTube. He's a former military interrogator, body language and behavior expert Greg Hartley is back. Greg, good to see you. Welcome, my friend.

[Greg Hartley]

Thanks, Grant. Always a pleasure.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right, you want to start with Don Lemon. Let's let's roll him from this week's church disruption. They're getting the operation together again. This is an operation that is secret that they invited folks out. Can't tell you what is going to happen, but you're going to watch it live unfold here on the Don Lemon Show. All right, so the Question was, did he help organize it? Did he help instigate it? Do you see anything here? He claims that he was just an observer.

[Greg Hartley]

He's certainly not surprised by where he's at. Let me tell you. I think the best thing out of the clips you picked tonight are certainty and uncertainty. We talk about people looking certain. That's a power. So I can teach you something tonight you can use as we go through this. Look at his fingers extended and separated. Watch him. He doesn't raise his brow at all. We say when a person raises their brow, they're asking for approval. Hey, do you get what I'm saying? Do you believe me? Do you understand? But we don't see any of that. We see him telling at a heightened whisper, which we know is secrecy. He shows energy. He shows secrecy. He's not surprised by anything that's about to happen. In my opinion, this is clearly certainty about what he's saying. He's got large illustrators. That's also an indicator of certainty.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right, interesting. That's good advice, because you could take that literally into the conference room at work and get some insight about that. These are data points that we can use. Scott Besant today said that. Gavin? Well, no, we. We. What am I doing? We get that yet? This is Don Lemon after the protest. I'm sorry.

[Greg Hartley]

Perfect.

[Grant Stinchfield]

My fault.

[Curtis Hauck]

So.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I have no affiliation to that organization. I didn't even know they were going to this church until we followed them there. We were there chronicling protests. Once the protest started in the church, we did an act of journalism. So why don't you talk to the actual person who is in charge of the organization and whose idea it was to have the protest at the church? Before you start blaming me for stuff.

[Greg Hartley]

Greg, So here's uncertainty. Look at him very carefully. See that brow rising? He's asking you to believe him and understand him. His hands are gone. All of his illustrators are gone. You can see all of that in him. You can see that he's got a lip compression. Withheld information at the end. And watch his blink rate, which is an autonomic response to stress, increases. He denies any affiliation. This is exactly the opposite of what we saw when he was telling us a secret.

[Grant Stinchfield]

It's. It's fascinating, really, because I think he knew. And what I believe what you're saying is the indications are then he knew exactly what was going to go down.

[Greg Hartley]

One look, Grant, you can be certain and wrong, but people who are telling something that's not true are often uncertain because their brain knows the truth and their mouth is trying to say something else. So those. A guy named Aldred Bray in, in I believe Switzerland did a study and showed that large illustrators mean the person is being more honest. Lack of illustrator is a good indicator that you're not being honest.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right. It could just mean you're also Italian like me or.

[Greg Hartley]

No, I talk with my hands more than anybody I know. People say that you could tie my hands and I couldn't talk.

[Grant Stinchfield]

That's so funny. All right. Brandon Gill, Congressman from Texas. Question. Jack Smith yesterday, the special prosecutor on display. Let's roll. Brandon Smith, cut four, please.

[Greg Hartley]

You think, you think the speaker of.

[Grant Stinchfield]

The House is a flight risk? You think he's going to hop on a plane and leave the country?

[Greg Hartley]

No, no.

[Grant Stinchfield]

What I was trying to explain is.

[Greg Hartley]

With respect to a non disclosure order.

[Grant Stinchfield]

The risks aren't necessarily associated with the subscriber to the phone. There's the risks to investigation. What do you think here?

[Greg Hartley]

Well, if you watch him when he's controlling the narrative, when he's saying. What I was saying was you don't see any brow movement. Again, he's pretty quiet. But when he starts to get to a point that's contentious, watch his brow rises for understanding or whatever. And you watch him moving his fingers. He's got lack of confidence. His fingers are not separated. And you also can tell that he goes down into his left to an internal voice to think of what he should say and how he should approach it before he moves to the next step. It tells you he's on the griddle. He knows he's in a spot where he has to be cautious. What he says next to not frustrate Mr. Gill.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Interesting. All right. At this hearing, a buddy of mine, former Green Beret Ivan Raichlin, who is dubbed our secretary of retribution on this program, he was instrumental in so many things, including coming up with the alternate electors idea for President Trump in 2020. He's all these people know who he is, including the Metropolitan Police Department, former officer Fanon, who was a star witness for the UN Select Committee, the devious Democrats. Watch this interaction between these two. I can't wait to get your your thoughts on this. Greg, behind you. Do something. Why should I? I'm communicating with you and trying to calm you down.

[Curtis Hauck]

Right.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Look at your face. You can't even control yourself. You can't even be amazing. See how many people are constraining you. Come get me. Look at me. Total control over my mind and body. Total body. Greg, you're a Military interrogator. You think that Green Beret had ever done any interrogating before?

[Greg Hartley]

Well, whether he's done interrogating or not, I think he's probably been in harm's way a time or two. If you, if you look at that, look at that chin thrust forward. His body's in harm's way. He's not afraid. He's, he's demonstrating. I'm not afraid. And even I would say the other guy, when he crosses his arms. This is a good example of why body language can be misconstrued. Crossing his arms doesn't necessarily mean that he's blocking you out and afraid. You can see both of these men could get into a fistfight in the right spot.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, you know, I'm a big fan of Ivan. Not a fan of Fanon. I think Ivan would probably kick his Fanon's butt. But Fanon's. No, no, Pansy. I'm not going to say that his politics may be pansy esque, but I think he'd be, you know, somewhat, somewhat of a formidable foe to go toe to toe with. But this was interesting to watch. Two guys like this stand off. Clearly they don't like each other.

[Greg Hartley]

And, and the interesting piece is if, if you watch, if you watch our, your friend, he's under absolute control. He has his frontal lobe intact, so he's not going to make a stupid swing of a mistake. The guy who's red faced is fighting off. Fight or flight, you're more liable to make a mistake. And a guy who's an SF guy is most likely going to have a whole hell of a lot of conflicts.

[Curtis Hauck]

Control.

[Greg Hartley]

Those guys are pretty, pretty cadenced.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, I made the point. If he loses it like that inside the halls of Congress, imagine what happened on January 6 and dealing with the crowds there, probably not good for Fanon. One more. I got a little extra time today, so I'm going to play one more. I thought this was interesting. Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza on the interview after Indiana won the national championship game. I call him. Look, I like him. I think he's a great player. I call him a little goofy though. So take a look, Greg, and tell me what you think. This victory is so sweet for everybody, for the entire Hoosier nation. But also, you know, it's super sweet of myself. I was a two star recruit coming out of high school. I got declined to walk on offer to the University of Miami. Full circle moment here playing in Miami for all the friends and family. I can't thank Coach Nettie Enough. And Coach Whitmer and Coach Anna for taking a chance on me and just give all the glory to God.

[Greg Hartley]

Whole lot of facial expressions, which we don't usually see from these kind of guys. But the other thing is, and the pads have something to do with it, because when you got pads, it limits your movement. But passion is up here. Passion is excitement is up here. When your hands are down here, being excited, that's what makes you think it looks goofy along with the facial expressions. So if you would raise just this much, it would make a big difference.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I think this guy is very endearing. I like him. But I said, is there any chance you could tell, is he on the spectrum? And maybe that's why he's so smart at what he does, that he's got something going on that makes him a little more special than the next guy.

[Greg Hartley]

Well, you know, there's no real body language I associate with. With being on the spectrum. However, I did do a show, some work for a documentary called Neurotypical. And the guy asked me what did I notice about every person he showed on the spectrum. Low forehead, involvement in communication, lack of uncertainty, lack of need to connect. The brow is the billboard of emotion. It's how we convey what we're thinking to other people, and we have a hard time controlling it. You've seen it earlier there, and he has little forehead movements. Probably why you think that.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah. Interesting. Greg Hartley, as always, it's such a pleasure having you on. I appreciate it and thank you. All right, look, folks, if you want to check out Greg's website, read body language.com and of course, the YouTube show, the behavior panel. Check it out there as well. President Trump's Medicare administrator, Dr. Oz, has hit the streets and is uncovering even more fraud in Minnesota. That's next. All right, welcome back, everyone. So all of you know Dr. Oz is the great TV host. You know, he's also the head of Medicare and Medicaid now under President Trump. So he apparently is saying that he found more fraud in Minnesota in the way of a warehouse. Watch this. Behind me is the Griggs Midway building. It looks like a factory because it was a factory, a linen factory. They made cloth back there to convert it to an office building. You'll notice all those little signs there, and there's tons of little businesses inside. Roughly 400 Medicaid businesses were starting the building behind me. Over the last several years. They generated about $380 million of billing that you, the taxpayer, were, were putting up. That means roughly each business had A million dollars of billing. You know, it is amazing. Like, when was the last time the head of Medicare or Medicaid would put together a video like this as such a great communicator? President Trump made it clear that he was going to put people in leadership positions that could communicate to the American people. When you look at Dr. Oz and Pete Hagseth and so many others, Cash Patel at the FBI, all of them able to communicate a message now, he uncovered a lot. Here he is again. Watch this as the protesters show up. So you'll notice there's already a watch group that's observing us, that people in the cars taking pictures of us. They're calling around, trying to find out what's going down. And I'll tell you, they don't have to, you know, wander up. We're telling you, we're here to figure out why these folks are being defrauded, why the people who live in Minnesota aren't getting access to the care they deserve because it's been stolen. But the fact that you've got people behind me in cars concerned that we're even talking about this story should be something that worries you. Absolutely. Think about it. In what office building do you get so upset that you have throngs of people coming out and starting to videotape you? Follow you. Unless inside that building, something fishy is going on again. I'm sure there are more questions than answers, but I'm glad the questions are now starting to be asked. And this is all starting to crumble on the Democrats. Up next, a Somali woman tells the world what it's like being Somali. So, you know, maybe we're being a little too hard on the Somali community. Maybe we should just ask them, what is it like to be Somali in America? It's kind of like the bananas and rice. You know, people don't really see, like, you know, it's a.

[Greg Hartley]

It's a. It's, you know, people don't think, oh.

[Jennifer Horn]

You can eat bananas with rice, but.

[Grant Stinchfield]

That'S what it's like to be Somali and American.

[Curtis Hauck]

It's like that combination of banana and rice. But you're gonna get what I mean.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So. No, I didn't get what you meant, unfortunately. And it doesn't seem like bananas really go very well with rice. But I did a little research, and I found an article from the Los Angeles Times going back to 2016. Guess where they were. Minneapolis. Guess what they were eating? Rice. Lamb. And they bring a banana with the food. Apparently, this is commonplace in Somalia. And we wonder why we would think that there's anything different about the Somali community. Bananas and rice. I love bananas and I like rice. Just not together. And I hate fraud. Especially fraud being committed. Never mind. That's gonna do it for us. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.