STINCHFIELD TONIGHT JANUARY 30TH, 2026

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Stinchfield Tonight – January 30th, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Grant Stinchfield
Guests: Louie Gohmert, Ben Berklam, Mike Benz, Jason Frazier
Date: January 31, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Stinchfield Tonight, Grant Stinchfield delivers a fiery review of the ongoing budget negotiations in Congress, with a focus on immigration policy, the looming government shutdown, and the political chess game around President Trump’s agenda. The episode also covers recent political unrest in Minneapolis, the latest release of Jeffrey Epstein files, and new developments around election integrity in Fulton County, Georgia. Insights and guest contributions drive spirited discussions, always under the show's “Real News, Honest Views” banner.

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Main Themes & Segments

1. Congressional Budget Showdown & Immigration (01:24–11:49)

Key Points:

• Republican vs. Democrat Stalemate:
  Stinchfield opens by lambasting Congress for failing to prevent another government shutdown. He accuses Democrats of leveraging immigration policy to restrict future mass deportations.
• "This is about amnesty." (01:24–04:48)
  • Democrats are pushing for provisions like ICE agent body cameras—already funded, according to Grant—and stricter requirements for arrest warrants for illegal aliens, which Stinchfield claims would effectively halt deportations.
  • He references Senator Rand Paul’s moderate immigration views (citing a Joe Rogan appearance), sharply disagreeing and labeling them as “amnesty.”

Notable Quotes:

• “Everything the Democrats are asking and sadly, what I believe the Republicans may agree to could virtually shut down deportation operations for President Trump.” — Grant Stinchfield [01:36]
• “We cannot give amnesty now.” — Grant Stinchfield [02:50]

Insights:

• Stinchfield expresses unwavering support for President Trump’s deportation agenda and distrusts any compromise that could weaken it.
• He claims social and economic progress (lower inflation, reduced crime) is thanks to Trump’s deportation policies.

  “Mass deportation has worked. What have we seen? Inflation down, rents down, crime down.” — Grant Stinchfield [04:58]

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2. Louie Gohmert Interview: Budget and Immigration Strategy (07:16–11:49)

Guest: Louie Gohmert, former Congressman

Key Points:

• Historical Context:
  Gohmert discusses budget tactic precedents, referencing 2011 and John Boehner's approach of separating out Homeland Security funding—arguing it gave Democrats leverage and the same mistake is being repeated now.
• Gohmert’s Recommendation:
  • Bundle all funding in a single package to avoid Democrats picking off their least-preferred departments (like Homeland Security) for negotiation.
  • Supports scrapping the Senate filibuster if necessary to act decisively.

Notable Quotes:

• “You leave them all together and say this has all got to be passed in one package. You don’t allow the one thing that Democrats don’t want to fund to be separated out.” — Louie Gohmert [09:41]
• "If we don’t get these things funded and get these things passed... this is really also protecting our election in 26 from having these massive influx of voters that shouldn’t be voting.” — Louie Gohmert [10:36]

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3. Protests & ICE Tensions in Minneapolis (11:49–18:24)

Guest/Reporter: Ben Berklam

Key Points:

• On-the-Ground Reporting:
  Ben Berklam provides live coverage from Minneapolis following ICE actions tied to Somali fraud investigations and resulting protests.
• Clashes and Organization:
  Stinchfield and Berklam argue that the protests are highly coordinated, not grassroots, and criticize demonstrators for what they call extremist rhetoric.

Notable Quotes:

• “They want to kill ICE. They’re loud and proud about it.” — Ben Berklam [14:00]
• “It feels like Minneapolis has fallen. What I saw today, these radical, deranged, leftist communists taking over the streets... not a single cop in sight.” — Ben Berklam [14:38]

Insights:

• Both Stinchfield and Berklam decry what they see as the weaponization of police reforms and accuse leftist organizers of using victims as “sacrificial lambs” for political/violent ends.

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4. Don Lemon’s Arrest & Media Critique (18:24–23:13)

Key Points:

• Accusations that TV journalist Don Lemon crossed the line from reporter to activist/planner in Minneapolis—Stinchfield justifies Lemon's arrest.
• Airs Lemon’s own footage to “prove” prior knowledge of illegal protest actions.
• Stinchfield rails against Lemon’s commentary on race and religion, defending Lemon’s right to speak but attacking his views.
• Criticizes left-wing rhetoric as fostering violence.

Notable Quotes:

• “Don Lemon, you need to not be an active participant, a planner in all of this, engaging in the crime.” — Grant Stinchfield [20:57]
• "He's free to say it. So am I." — Grant Stinchfield [23:13]

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5. Epstein Files Dump – Government, Politics, & Media (27:10–37:23)

Guest Expert: Mike Benz, Foundation for Freedom Online

Key Points:

• DOJ Document Dump:
  The Justice Department released 3.5 million more pages from the Jeffrey Epstein case. Stinchfield highlights salacious details involving public figures but insists no new evidence implicates Trump.
• Media and Political Speculation:
  Benz notes that the remaining unreleased documents (2.5 million pages) fuel conspiracy theories from the left and right.
• Foreign & Intelligence Connections:
  Benz presses for full disclosure, including potential intelligence agency ties, and explains why only legislative action (as with JFK files) might force the truth.

Notable Quotes:

• “Just because someone said it and it’s in an FBI file doesn’t make it a true thing.” — Mike Benz [31:14]
• "I would like to see... some declaration by our spy agencies that they have diligence this... to end these conspiracy theories by giving a firm yes or no.” — Mike Benz [35:00]
• “Congress has to step in and force the CIA to release those files.” — Grant Stinchfield [37:11]

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6. Fulton County, Georgia: Election Integrity (41:15–46:22)

Guest: Jason Frazier, Fulton County GOP Appointee

Key Points:

• Voter Roll Anomalies:
  Frazier reveals ongoing issues: suspicious voter registrations at business addresses and vacant lots, and thousands of duplicate registrations unaddressed by authorities.
• FBI Election Audit in Fulton County:
  Recent FBI raids on election administration are discussed as a positive step but also underscore the need for thorough investigation and accountability.
• Nationwide Perspective:
  Calls for nationwide “one person, one vote” reforms, federal voter roll verification, and stricter ID laws.

Notable Quotes:

• “They are at this point knowingly allowing illegal votes to happen at some of these addresses.” — Jason Frazier [42:41]
• “We just want the truth... Sometimes the coverup is worse than the crime.” — Jason Frazier [43:28]

Insights:

• Frazier echoes national conservatives’ concerns about “stolen elections,” urging more aggressive clean-up of the voter rolls and holding officials accountable.

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7. Other Key Topics

Trump’s Pick for Fed Chair (47:40–49:56)

• Trump nominates Kevin Warsh for Federal Reserve Chair; Stinchfield and guests express optimism for future rate cuts and “America First” economic policies.

Media Tensions & Soundbite Moments (50:14–51:04)

• Stinchfield airs Trump dismissing an ABC journalist (“ABC Fake News!”), mocking the hostile press Q&A dynamic.

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Notable/Memorable Moments

• “They are blind liberal zombies. Maybe robots.” — Grant Stinchfield [13:05]
• Live protest reporting: Berklam’s first-hand account from Minneapolis (“It feels like Minneapolis has fallen...” [14:38])
• Epstein File Debate: “Just because someone said it... doesn’t make it a true thing.” — Mike Benz [31:14]
• Election fraud claim: “19 people registered to vote at one house in Fulton County.” — Grant Stinchfield [41:54]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:24] – Opening Rant: Congressional Budget, Immigration, and Amnesty
• [07:16] – Interview: Louie Gohmert on Funding Negotiations
• [11:49] – Minneapolis Protests, ICE, and Leftist Organization (with Ben Berklam reporting)
• [18:24] – Don Lemon’s Arrest & Activism Accusation
• [27:10] – Jeffrey Epstein Files Release (with Mike Benz)
• [41:15] – Election Integrity Issues in Fulton County, Georgia (with Jason Frazier)
• [47:40] – Trump Names New Federal Reserve Chair
• [50:14] – Trump vs. ABC “Fake News” Reporter

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Tone & Language

• Highly partisan and combative; language is direct, dismissive of opposing views (“blind liberal zombies,” “Pocahontas is back”)
• Defends conservative, Trump-aligned positions
• Blunt criticism of both Democratic leaders and establishment Republicans
• Frequent use of sarcasm, ridicule, and rhetorical exaggeration

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode of Stinchfield Tonight is a broad survey of current right-wing talking points. It offers a clear window into conservative resentments over immigration, skepticism toward government and media, and the insistent perspective that American institutions are under siege both from within and by subversive leftist forces. If you want a point-by-point immersion in “America First,” anti-establishment political commentary, this episode delivers—with familiar faces, on-the-ground reporting, and headline reactions throughout.

Transcript

[Grant Stinchfield]

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, good evening everyone. Welcome to Stitchfield. Once again, I am not happy with those who lead US in Washington D.C. specifically talking about Congress. This budget showdown looks like it will go into next week. The United States Congress is not there. The House of Representatives, they should have been standing by understanding that this was going to happen. Senate trying to reach a deal before we get into the deal. I want to make something very, very clear here though. This is not about Democrats demanding ICE agents wear body camera, by the way, that's in the big beautiful bill already. This is not about Democrats ensuring that they have due process, these illegal aliens. What this is about is amnesty. Everything the Democrats are asking and sadly, what I believe the Republicans may agree to could virtually shut down deportation operations for President Trump. They know this. Now how do I know this is the playbook? Because quietly, even Republicans tell us this is the playbook. This is Senator Rand Paul about a month ago on Joe Rogan. You're gonna shock you.

[Louie Gohmert]

I'm a moderate on this.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I actually think that most of the.

[Jason Frazier]

People that are here and working lawfully.

[Ben Berkman]

And can pass a background check.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I would give them no welfare and I would give them no citizenship, no voting privileges.

[Louie Gohmert]

But you can work and we won't arrest you.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I hate to break the news to you Senator. That is amnesty. And once again my problem with the polls his father and him is that his bad ideas are really bad. His good ideas are really good. That's typical of a liberal, by the way. But the bad ones are not going to fly with me. We cannot give amnesty now. The Dems want body cameras for all of the ICE agents. I can get on board with that. And in fact, $20 million has already been set aside for that to happen. So that should be a. A no problem deal right there. They want to have judicial warrants for every illegal alien taken into custody over administrative warrants. This would virtually shut down the judicial system. And if you're accused of a state crime, you're not going to be able to have a federal judge write a warrant for a state crime, which then means it's going to make it even more difficult to go and round up illegal aliens. They know this. They want to require a warrant in every single human case to shut it down. Now, what does the plan entail? The plan entails passing five of these six funding bills. The one that would not get passed would be the Department of Homeland Security. That includes many of these ICE provisions that would be set aside to a two week continuing resolution. Now, I will tell you this. President Trump is 100% behind this. If President Trump backs it, I back it too. Where I will not back it is if this DHS bill goes over the next two weeks as it's renegotiated and gets watered down and stops President Trump from getting what he wants. And that's his mass deportation plan, which is putting America back on the right track. This is Senator Lindsey Graham, who could throw a monkey wrench into all of this, but the fact that the President negotiated this with Leader Thune. I mean, Trump stand.

[Ben Berkman]

I don't.

[Jason Frazier]

You know what, I'm a senator.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Of course I like senators or I.

[Louie Gohmert]

Like President Trump a lot. You didn't negotiate with me.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Let me just explain this to you, okay? Here's why I default with President Trump in office, to giving President Trump what he wants. He's been right about everything. And in the end, mass deportation has worked. What have we seen? We've seen inflation comes down. I promise you that's part of the reason with all of the deportations, inflation is coming down. We have seen rents start to decrease as well in California for the first time in decades. Why? Because American citizens are not competing against illegal aliens for rental apartments. We see crime in virtually every state across the country coming down. That also is due in large part to President Trump's deportation plan. So in the end, we've Got to stick with it. And the Republican, excuse me, the Democrats know it's working for us. It's the only reason they lie like this. Isis, not some special secret police that gets to rove around the country and claim that they own the streets, and they get to push down citizens and shoot them in cold blood out in the street. We're just trying to get some constraints over ice. I don't even wonder why I allow soundbites from her on this program. Again, all lies designed to just gin up the violence among those blind liberal zombies that will take to the streets as soon as she calls for it, which she's doing right there, basically. Now, the problem with all of this is we had months and months and months to work this out, and again, we're down to the deadline. I actually believe they enjoy it. I do. I think both Republicans and Democrats alike, the unit party in Washington, I think they love the drama for all of this. And who loses? The American people. That's who loses. Well, the American people lost a good one when he left the United States Congress. He's a good friend of mine from Texas, former Congressman, now senior fellow for political statesmanship with the David Horowitz Freedom Center. My buddy Louie Gohmert is with us tonight. Louie, it's great to have you on the program.

[Louie Gohmert]

Always great to be with you, Grant. Thank you.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. What do you make of what's going down there? What's your biggest concern of coming out the other side of this?

[Louie Gohmert]

You did a great analysis, Grant. Of course, you know, people would come to me in Congress and go tell us, what's the history of all this? Hey, this goes back to 2011. This is exactly what John Boehner did. President Trump has been doing exactly what he said he would do. And Democrats know that if they can just monkey these things up, that they can stop the deportations. And there's a lot in this bill. There's a lot they're wanting to do that just, as you said, will stop the deportations. So back in 2011, we had just had this huge, massive, conservative wave election, if you remember, November 2010, and what do we do? Boehner separates out Homeland Security from the rest of the funding bills and says, we'll do that separately. The Democrats are willing to do that, and that way it'll force them to agree. I got up and said, are you crazy? That's the one. They don't care about funding. We will have no leverage with them. If you fund everything, all these socialist ideas, they you're going to fund them and leave Homeland Security unfunded. And that's what's going to happen in two weeks. We're going to be begging them and they're going to be coming forward with all these socialist new ideas. Okay, you fund this, that and the other and then we'll think about funding Homeland Security because that's not something they really want to fund and they will have Republicans over a barrel. But there are, as you've noted, there are some Republicans that would just be okay if we don't do big deportations. But that's where this is going.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Let me ask you, because when you were in Congress, you were such a strategic thinker, such a strong voice for real conservatives in America. What would you be recommending they do here? How should they handle this?

[Louie Gohmert]

Well, you leave them all together. You leave them all together and say this has all got to be passed in one package. And you don't allow the one thing that Democrats don't want to fund to be separated out. You do it in one package and negotiate the whole thing together. And you know, you may have to give some give and take to make that happen. But, but that'll be a whole lot better than separating out the one thing they don't want to find and then having to negotiate that.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Can I ask you, would throwing out the 60 vote requirement in the United States Senate, the filibuster as it's, as it's well known, that would solve a lot of problems. Are you on board with doing that now, as the president would like to see happen? Would that's and would that solve this problem?

[Louie Gohmert]

Grant, I've, I've had a lot of mixed emotions about that over the years. And I just feel certain that when the Democrats take the majority again, they'll do just what they did when they got the majority last time. They threw out the 60 vote requirement on, you know, confirmations. And I feel like they'll do that very thing when they get the majority again, God help us. So why not do it now? Because if we don't get these things funded and get these things passed so that we can, because this is really also protecting our election in 26 from having these massive influx of voters that shouldn't be voting in the election. So it's all connected. So I think, you know, that probably is where we should go. Yes.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I can tell you the people of Texas miss your voice in the United States Congress.

[Mike Benz]

Certain.

[Grant Stinchfield]

The people of America do as well. We're great to have it here on this program. Louie Gohmer, thank You as always, for coming on tonight.

[Louie Gohmert]

Great to be with you. You got great insight and I really appreciate that.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, I appreciate it back coming from you. That's a huge compliment and we thank you for it, for sure. Look, I want to talk now a little bit about what's going on in Minneapolis. Because all of this stems from the Somali fraud that brought in ICE to Minneapolis. Now the protests and then the ICE clashes leads to basically what is going to be a government shutdown. The protests continue. Our Ben Berkman was right there in the middle of it. Watch. There you go.

[Ben Berkman]

It started.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So that was again a flashbang. Making sure that they get these crowds completely under control. Now Ben, he does this with a smile, which is pretty amazing. He gets them to admit what. We all know that this is highly organized and there are big, well funded entities behind this. This is not just some grassroots effort. Roll it. Every single person here is individual. Are they?

[Ben Berkman]

There's no organizations that are none.

[Grant Stinchfield]

No Individual, individual, individual.

[Ben Berkman]

So this wasn't organized by any organization?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Obviously. I mean, obviously mult.

[Jason Frazier]

Different organizations pushed it out. Yeah, that's how you get the news out.

[Grant Stinchfield]

But wait a second. Obviously multiple organizations pushed it out. As they're telling you. No, it's not. They're dumb. I'm telling you. They are blind liberal zombies. Maybe robots. Watch. Don't cooperate with agitators.

[Louie Gohmert]

We don't cooperate with agitators.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Just so you guys can see, this is reporting. This is agitating. They don't talk to agitators. This Ben is an agitator. And literally you're watching them there and then they're the ones calling for literally the murdering of ICE agents. Okay? Now how ironic is that that they call Ben an agitator who literally wants peace on the streets of every city in America. Here's Ben again.

[Ben Berkman]

But this is the message. There is no compromise anymore. This is what they want. They want to kill ice. They're loud and proud about it. And unfortunately you have people like her that's more worried about me interfering and offending somebody at this so called called memorial, virtue signaling memorial than they are about actually protecting their community. Where this somehow is acceptable language.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You think you'll see that shot on cnn? I doubt it. I want to bring in now live from Minneapolis RAV correspondent Ben Berklam, our man on the streets. Ben, welcome back.

[Ben Berkman]

Thank you, Grantham. Actually, outside of the church that Don Lemon stormed. So yeah, we've done the whole city tour now at city church. It's been wild. I gotta tell you, Grant it feels like Minneapolis has fallen. What I saw today, these radical, deranged, leftist communists taking over the streets of Minneapolis, not a single cop in sight. It's bad. It's bad for America.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, it reminds me almost of Portland. And you were there as well. When Antifa took over the streets of Portland, that city appeared to have fallen. It's easy to take over a city when, when leadership and the police department doesn't want to enforce the law. Ben.

[Ben Berkman]

Yeah, I mean, that's really all of this comes down to. And one of the things I showed last night when I was at Alex Preddy's memorial there and I was actually doing a memorial for all the angel families that got murdered by illegal aliens, was the fact that there was a cop there that day. Had there been cops there the day that Alex was shot, after he attacked ICE officers or border patrol officers, he would be alive today. Presumably because the police in most cities and states provide perimeter security. And when things like that happen, when operations like that are happening, you have police to actually be there to do their jobs, to create a perimeter. But because you have failed leadership in the city, in the state city of Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota, they've just allowed the mobs to take over. And then what do you have happen? You have chaos and ultimately people die. And then they can go and become the victims and Virtue Signal and all the rest of it and go out and march in the streets and demand ICE be abolished. So it's this, it's a self perpetuating system that they've created.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You mentioned the memorial for Alex Preddy, the man who was resisting ICE agents, who ultimately was shot and killed. This was you at, at that memorial. When you get approached by one of these leftists, roll that guys.

[Ben Berkman]

And the big question becomes, should back away from anyone. I, I'm, I'm memorializing American citizens. How many angel families, how many American citizens have been killed by. Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I'm grieving.

[Ben Berkman]

I'm grieving for America.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So she told you you shouldn't be there, that she's grieving and you're grieving for America. I mean, put perfectly, Ben, but this is what you're up against. Can you explain to me, I'm going to ask you probably the toughest question you've ever been asked on television. Can you explain to me their reasoning through all of this? Ben?

[Ben Berkman]

Yes, it's control. It's. We create spaces, so called safe spaces that we control. And if you do anything outside of our parameters of what's Acceptable in these spaces, then you are illegitimate. You need to be handled. And in many cases, like we saw.

[Jason Frazier]

Today.

[Ben Berkman]

Violence is tolerated. So if you show up to one of these things that they've taken over and you see this with blm, George Floyd, not far away from where we're at right now, all of that stemmed from here. And it's all about control. So this happens. We can now use this figure. They don't actually care about Alex Preddy. They care about being able to use him as a symbol, just like you heard Senator Warnock talk about. Use him as a symbol for their attacks, their. Their further attacks. They loved when George Floyd got murdered because then they could go out and burn down cities. The same thing with Renee Goode and Alex Freddy. They do not care about these people. They just use them to control people.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You, my friend, are spot on. And just be safe out there. And I appreciate that. And when the folks hear what I'm going to show you, I'm going to prove Ben exactly right. Ben, thank you for coming on tonight. And I mean it when I tell you, man, be safe.

[Ben Berkman]

Will do. Thank you, sir.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. So Ben talked about these people are being used, I call them. They're being used as sacrificial lambs. This is from Cam Higby. He's a great independent journalist. He's been inside the signal chats. This is a signal chat. Basically, throw it up on the screen, guys. Basically telling people to go out there and use yourself as a pawn. It says another murder, a prolonged and escalating abduction attempt could lead to flashpoints. They think this is a good thing. Here's the next one. These possibilities are dangerous, but they are also sites at which we can escalate our resistance and inspire people into taking more militant, organized action. What they want is, is for their followers to ultimately be killed, and they can use them as a sacrificial lamb to create more riots and more chaos. They don't care about the people, folks. They really don't. Ben had mentioned Don Lamon. I want to mention Don Lemon. He was arrested today. Now, I've had mixed feelings about the arrest of Don Lemon today, because when another administration comes in, I don't want them arresting Ben Berkwoman for following conservatives to a protest. Conservatives don't riot. They don't disrupt it like leftists do. But that's one of my main concerns. Except when I get into this case and really start to break down what Don Lemon did, he went from being an active observer. Even a biased journalist may not be Right. To be a journalist who's biased, but it's not illegal. But he went from that to being an active participant, and I believe even a planner. This is the argument of the government that when you plan this disruption, this terrorizing of a church, which violates two federal statutes, by the way, then you put yourself in a position of being arrested. This is Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche being asked about the arrest today. And to follow up on that, do.

[Ben Berkman]

You have a reaction to the arrest of Don Lemon overnight?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Reaction to what?

[Ben Berkman]

To Don Lemon's arrest overnight.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Do I have a reaction to it?

[Mike Benz]

I don't know what that means.

[Grant Stinchfield]

What are you looking for me to.

[Ben Berkman]

Do, jump up and down? No, I don't have a reaction to it. I don't know that his. That the charges are unsealed yet.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, look, so he was arrested, and I have a reaction to it. Don Lemon, you need to not be an active participant, a planner in all of this, engaging in the crime as it was committed. As I see it now, here is proof of that. Go back to Don Lemon's own videos. That shows he was more than just videotaping what was happening.

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The operation that they're doing today.

[Grant Stinchfield]

It's important to have allies, as I.

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Said, white allies here.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So that is what I could say. I turned our camera off of them.

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Because they're giving some critical information here.

[Grant Stinchfield]

But there we go. Everybody's ready to go, so we turned the camera off. They're giving critical information, which tells me he knew what they were about to do. It is clear to me that you go bust open a church and disrupt proceedings, scare people in there. You have to know that that is a crime. Now, that also shows that he had prior knowledge of all of this. Here's another one of Don Lemon's own videos that prove that he was part of all of this. In my.

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These are resistance protesters.

[Grant Stinchfield]

They're planning an operation that we're going to follow them on. I can't tell you exactly what they're doing, but it's called Operation Pull up.

[Public Ad Read / Announcer]

And it's Takima Armstrong, and she has been doing this since George Floyd, Dante Wright, and other others where they surprise.

[Grant Stinchfield]

People, catch them off guard, and hold them to account.

[Public Ad Read / Announcer]

And so that's what we're doing here.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Hold them to account. So you knew exactly what they were going to do when you went into that church. That's not a protest. That's not using your voice. Holding someone to account is like holding someone hostage. Now, I will defend Don Lemon for some of his speech in that video just because I don't agree with it. I think he's a complete a hole, quite frankly. I think he's a leftist, anti American jerk is what I think of Don Lemon and I'm sure he thinks the same of me. He's free to say it. So am I. He's also free to say something like this.

[Mike Benz]

And there's a certain degree of entitlement.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I think people who are, you know, in the religious groups like that. It's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're.

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Entitled and that that entit comes from.

[Mike Benz]

A supremacy, a white supremacy.

[Grant Stinchfield]

He can have that bias. He's wrong, but he can have that bias no problem. Not going to be charged for having those opinions, even though they're outrageous, wrong and brutal and all of those things. I'm sure he says the same thing about my opinions, except I don't call people names like that. I don't. I don't relate people to Nazis, even Democrats. I call them blind liberal zombies. I don't call them Nazis. Sadly, many of them are turning into rioters, disruptors, and in many cases murderers. That is a fact. All right, here's who he defends. Here's who the left defends. Take a look at this mugshot. These are three young men in Dallas, Texas. Anthony Acevedo, Alcoran, Sanchez and Darcelara. We're told by police they're all illegal aliens. They have been arrested. For what? Take a look. Firing guns off a very popular bridge in Dallas, Texas, just west of downtown. I've walked that bridge. I've ridden in my corner car over that bridge. Apparently they were firing at a family in one of those cars. They're here illegally. They are now being held on ice. Detainers. If you're so stupid to videotape yourself firing guns at people from a bridge that you could have killed somebody, praise Jesus, no one died. Is that who you really want in this country? I don't think so. All right, folks. Whether it comes in the form of a crippling winter storm or a pandemic, or something much more mundane like a tick bite, you and your family need to be prepared. The Wellness company and their doctors and medical professionals are folks you could trust. And their line of prescription medical kits are the gold standard when it comes to keeping you safe and healthy. Whether it's the medical emergency kit or the contagion kit or the first aid kit or the travel kit, these prescription kits contain an assortment of life saving medications and guidebooks to assist you in the proper use of these medications. Go to TWC Health Forward slash voice to order today, use the promo code voice and save 10%. All right, 3.5 million more pages of Epstein files have been dropped. What we know so far Next Next.

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Well folks, if you can believe it, the justice department released 3.5 million more pages of epstein related files and paperwork. 3.5 million pages now so far. There's some salacious stuff in there. Like this. Uh, this was interesting. I, I actually found it quite funny. It was an email Jeffrey Epstein wrote to himself where he writes a message for Bill Gates and it reads, to add insult to injury, you then subsequently, with tears in your eyes, implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std, sexually transmitted disease, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda, his wife now. Oh, I'm sure Bill Gates is loving that email that was exposed. Also revealed was a very close working relationship between Epstein and this anti Trump journalist. If you want to even call him that. Michael Wolf. Michael Wolf writes for the USA Today. He wrote anti Trump books. He talks about the Hillary Clinton campaign trying to tie Epstein and Trump together. And they talk about how Epstein could come forward and quote, finish off Trump. To me, it shows the coordination of Epstein and the Clintons. Still, I have yet to see anything showing anything related to President Trump here and Epstein, this is Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch who released the files today. There's this built in assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche of information of.

[Mike Benz]

Men that we know about that we're.

[Ben Berkman]

Covering up or that we're not.

[Grant Stinchfield]

We're choosing not to prosecute. That is not the case. I don't know whether there are men out there that abuse these women.

[Ben Berkman]

If we learn about information and evidence that allows us to prosecute them, you.

[Mike Benz]

Better believe we will.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I still believe if that evidence existed, we would have known about it by now and it had probably been destroyed. If it ever existed. I want to bring in now the one guy who knows more about this story than anybody else out there. He's the executive director of the foundation for Freedom Online. Former State Department employee Mike Benz is back with us. Mike, welcome to the program.

[Mike Benz]

Thanks, Grant.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right, what did you make of this latest release, Mike?

[Mike Benz]

Well, it's, they dropped a couple hours ago and there's about 3.5 million pages. So, you know, interestingly, there's a debate about whether enough pages have been disclosed today because there's about almost 6 million pages that are in the sum total universe of what the FBI said that it had. And there's a question that the left is asking about whether the 2.5 million pages that are not evidently released, if they contain the real damaging stuff. This is the Epstein hot potato. Obviously, there's enough to chew on just in what we've seen. There's no way to go over that volume in just a business day. But the fact is, is, you know, the left is obviously using some of the things the, you know, emails about Howard Lutnick and Elon Musk and these allegations about Donald Trump that are made by unnamed informants. CHS is confidential human informants. Some of, you know, for example, you have this, this kind of far left glomming on to an FBI confidential human source saying that Donald Trump is a pawn of Israel and that Alan Dershowitz was recruited by the Mossad. And you know, these are the sort of things that regardless of how you feel about the issue, the fact that an unnamed informant gives that opinion to the FBI does not make that an official FBI finding. In fact, some of the claims that are made against Trump in these documents are made through anonymous tip lines in 2018 while Donald Trump was president and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein was underway in 2018, 2019. So some of the salacious insinuations about Trump sexually assaulting, I'll say a Underage girl. This is another thing that the leftist kind of glommed on to. Could have been made through leftists who had. No, no, could have. Could have been living in Australia, simply wanted to drop a tip that could hurt the sitting US President. So it's important to that these. What you see that someone tells the FBI in a document here does not mean that it is a true thing. And an FBI file proving it. Just because someone said it and it's in an FBI file.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well look, we learned that with the Steele dossier and the Russian collusion hoax that just because it's in an FBI file doesn't make it true. And these anonymous sources, you know, it's par for the course that they would, they would file these types of allegations. What is it that you would like to see in the documents? Because you've been one of the few, Mike, that is focused on, on Epstein's foreign ties, CIA ties. You talked about Adnan Khashoggi and running guns. Do you think there may be anything. And I know it's only a few hours. You can't go through 3.5 million pages. Anything that lend would lend credibility to, to the things you've been shedding light on.

[Mike Benz]

Well, what I'd like to see are more details about Jeffrey Epstein's financial dealings. And, and it is hard for me to imagine that while Jeffrey Epstein was being prosecuted in the US Virgin Islands for massive bank fraud, you know, had over $1 billion worth of assets, there was a whole calamity over fraud in the banking sphere that he was involved in. There was a massive settlement that had to be paid out. And the details of that financial audit are things that I think really need to be plugged in because it's my personal opinion on the basis of having looked at this for many years, that Jeffrey Epstein was plugged in very early in his career back when he was at Bear stearns, which means JP Morgan, which acquired it in 2008, would hold his personnel record, was involved on deals that were geopolitically sensitive involving the us, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the United Kingdom with a little bit of France in there as well, and a couple other Middle Eastern kind of Arab sheikh type groups that were all participating in this early post CIA reform soup called the Safari Club, which used the, at the time one of the, one of the. What had grown to be one of the world's biggest banks, BCCI, that became embroiled in a giant 10 year scandal. That scandal was covered up and pardons were issued by no less than Bill Barr in the 1990s and the chief FBI guy who covered up the investigation and tried to block any disclosures about the CIA's role in BCCI was no less than Bob Mueller in the 1980s. These are the very characters who would effectively be the special prosecutor and the Attorney General when Jeffrey Epstein died. Who would have been privy to, at that time, Jeffrey Epstein's intelligence network 40 years earlier. So, you know, this is. I would like to see, to show good faith, some declaration by our spy agencies that they have diligence this. I've been calling repeatedly for a CIA name trace to be declassified. It is, in my view, impossible that the CIA did not run a Name Trace In 2019 when Alex Acosta, the Labor Secretary, when Vicky Ward published an alleged statement that he had belonged to intelligence. I have seen hundreds of declassified CIA name traces that you can simply find in National Security Archives online, where if Jim Jones is mentioned in the news, if Martin Luther King has been. The CIA runs a name trace to see, hey, is he one of ours? This would be an appropriate time to open your palms and end these conspiracy theories by. By giving a firm yes or no.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, there's no reason why they can't do that. Jeffrey Epstein is clearly dead right now, so you don't have the risk of him being upset about it. To me, it just. I don't know if we'll ever know the full story. Mike Benz, I think you're the one that's closest to it right now, but I'm not sure we ever get the full details. Last word. 15, 30 seconds, if you can.

[Mike Benz]

What it may require, because all these disclosures are forced by a bill from Thomas Massie that passed 426 to 1 for the Justice Department side of these disclosures. It is my view that the files around Epstein's intelligence ties are not held at doj. It may take a separate legislative bill to coerce disclosures from our intelligence agencies, which was how we got the JFK files in the 1990s, when. When the. When Congress passed a bill forcing the CIA to begin disclosing JFK files. That may be the next step if these files are insufficient.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You nailed it. That's where we got to go. And Congress has to step in and force the CIA to release those files. That's probably spot on, as always. Mike Benz, it's great to see you. Thank you for coming on tonight.

[Mike Benz]

Thanks, Grant.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. Big thanks to Mike. I know he went out of his way to make time for us tonight, and we always appreciate him coming on. All right. Up next, Tulsi Gabbard at Fulton County, Georgia. She was at that raid. What is the Director of National Intelligence presence there? What does it mean? Talk about it next.

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[Jason Frazier]

It's been a problem for a while now. Yeah. I was nominated by the Fulton County GOP. I was actually nominated in 2023. The Fulton board of Commissioners blocked my seat for the first time in Fulton county history. So we had a short lawsuit and they ended up backfill me with somebody else that they thought would be less controversial. Well, she's been a, she's been a rock star. Julie Adams is doing a bang up job. But then this time in 2025, they blocked both of us. I mean, she stays on the board until she's replaced, which we're not going to do. But my seat is sitting empty. It's been empty since July. So we've got a problem coming into these midterms with only one Republican on the board.

[Grant Stinchfield]

This literally tells me they're afraid of what you could find. If you go onto that elections board and in Fulton county, you've already found some very interesting things. I'm going to put up a graphic and then, and then get you to talk about it. 19 people registered to vote at one house in Fulton County. You had another house, a small one story home, 139 people registered to vote there. And then two people registered to vote at a literal empty lot. That may be easier to explain than the other ones, but still problems. Jason, this goes deep. We are not close to being out of the woods when it comes to election integrity, are we?

[Jason Frazier]

Not a chance. I mean, I've identified thousands of people at business addresses. I've turned in now 11,000 people registered more than once just in Fulton county alone. I mean, I've spent countless hours doing this. And in those addresses you saw on there, several of them I had already turned into Fulton county and they left them on. So they are at this point knowingly allowing illegal votes to happen at some of these addresses so they can't hide behind it and say it was just clerical errors. They know about it today.

[Grant Stinchfield]

What would you like to see from the FBI? I Mean, I thought it was just literally groundbreaking that they went in, they raided the warehouse, they took what they call evidence out of the warehouse. What would you like to see happen now? Is there any direction you want them to specifically go in?

[Jason Frazier]

I think all of us down in Georgia, we just want the truth. We just want to know exactly what happened in 2020. How many people had their ballots double scanned? How many people moved out of state and came back and voted? How many people voted from illegal addresses? We just want the truth. Sometimes the COVID up is worse than the crime. And I think in this case, the crime and the COVID up were equally bad. We just, we just need this to happen and they need to move fast.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Knowing the truth is certainly important, and then you can't go after the perpetrators without nailing down the truth. Is it important to you that we hold the people accountable for this? Responsible? Absolutely.

[Jason Frazier]

I mean, that's, that's been. The biggest gap is nobody has been held accountable in Georgia. And in the, the, the chair of the Fulton County Board of Commissioners, he went on the news saying that I don't know why people are still talking about 2020. Everything was fine. Well, you know what? It wasn' and if we don't investigate this, it repeated itself in 2020-2024. It's going to repeat itself in 2026. You got to hold them accountable. Any gaps in the system have to be fixed, and that's the only way to move forward.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You know, we know there was problems in Fulton County, Georgia. We know the issues in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. We know Detroit, Michigan. This is really a nationwide problem because it just takes a few counties to steal an election, as we saw in 2020. How widespread do you think this still is, Jason, and are we on the right track of getting this under control, or are we far off from having it under control nationally?

[Jason Frazier]

I kind of view this as step one. I guess the other additional step one is trying to get the voter rolls nationwide. The one great thing that'll happen when that occurs. And obviously the Georgia Secretary of State is blocking that at the moment. But I think at some point Harmeet Dillon is going to get the voter roll nationwide and then they can verify did some. Did somebody move to Florida and they're still registered to vote in Georgia. We need them to be registered one time nationwide, and we need to go across and where people don't have dates of birth and there there's an error in their name or they're registered five times with a Social Security number, they can quickly verify that. Just clean up the roles. One person, one vote nationwide. That's what we got to have.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Certainly seems like common sense. And with today's technology, pretty easy to to figure out the SAVE act as well. We get that passed. Mandatory show identification to vote. Make sure you're an American citizen. That would help as well. Getting you on the board would also help in Fulton County. Jason Frazier, I talked before about patience. You were set to come on last night. We had the president talking at the debut of Melania. I wanted to say thank you for hanging out and of course, coming back tonight.

[Jason Frazier]

Absolutely. Thank you. It's been an honor.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. Thank you. Well, the honor is mine.

[Louie Gohmert]

All right.

[Grant Stinchfield]

President Trump has named his pick for the next head of the Federal Reserve. What can we expect about that next?

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, we will soon have a new Fed chair. President Trump has named his pick Kevin Warsh to take over for Jerome Powell, who's been an absolute disaster holding this country back like nothing you can believe, really, by refusing to lower interest rates. This is President Trump today on his pick.

[Louie Gohmert]

He's very smart, very good, strong, young, pretty young.

[Grant Stinchfield]

And I think he's going to do that.

[Louie Gohmert]

I mean, he, he was the central casting guy people wanted. Kevin was great. I tell you what, I met numerous people. Every one of them were fantastic. Really fantastic.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I wanted to keep Kevin here. So he's talking about Kevin Hasser, who is really running President Trump's economic agenda. I don't blame him for wanting to keep Kevin at the White House. He's doing a fabulous job. Kevin responded to not being picked to be the next Fed chair. The economic team in this White House was Scott Besson and Howard Lutnick and myself.

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[Grant Stinchfield]

Cylinders, and it's a really bad time to change teams. You don't change quarterbacks when you're way ahead. And I really have high regard for Kevin. And we're going to put every effort that we have into getting him confirmed as soon as possible so that we can get the Fed moving in the right direction. Now, remember, just because we have a new chair doesn't mean that the board will continue to vote for interest rate decreases as President Trump wants. But it is a very good start having a chairman that I'm sure will be right there in lockstep with President Trump, not because he's so loyal to President Trump, which I'm sure he is, but because it's the right thing to do and President Trump's putting great economic minds in positions of power. Lastly, what does the left have to say about all of this? You know what? I'm not even going to play her. She doesn't deserve to get played. You want to play her? Okay, they want to play her. Let's roll it. Trump has publicly demanded a loyalty oath from whoever he nominates. So we know without a shadow of a doubt that Kevin Warsh is a pawn in Trump's takeover. If Donald Trump is successful in seizing.

[Ben Berkman]

Control of the Fed.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I thought we banned her. We banned her on today's program, but she's back. Pocahontas is back. By the way, what presidents do is they appoint people who believe in the same types of things they believe in. That's nothing new in politics. Pocahontas.

[Mike Benz]

All right.

[Grant Stinchfield]

President Trump lays the smackdown on another fake news reporter. That's next. You know, what do they call it? An S list. I almost said the word, but I'm not going to say the word. You know what list I'm talking about? ABC is on President Trump's ass list.

[Jason Frazier]

Watch.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Why are you suing?

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[Grant Stinchfield]

I don't think it's even is.

[Louie Gohmert]

You're a loud person.

[Mike Benz]

Very loud.

[Louie Gohmert]

Let somebody else have a chance. Can you answer the question?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Why are you abc, irs.

[Louie Gohmert]

Abc Fake News.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Go ahead.

[Louie Gohmert]

I didn't call on you. Go ahead. Please, go ahead, Go ahead.

[Ben Berkman]

Do you think the upcoming abc, by.

[Louie Gohmert]

The way, is truly one of the worst?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Love it. I am the President. Nobody talks to the President like that. ABC is truly one of the worst. And she's constantly loud like that. We oughta. You know what we ought to sick like Benny Harmony honor and do an ambush interview at the White House. Do they do that like the RAV correspondent? Go after the mainstream media. Just do some. Do some ambush interviews. I'd love to see it. I'll ask Betty about it. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.