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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Well, good evening, everyone. Welcome to Stitchfield. If you can believe it, it's been five years since January 6th. Yes, today. Today, January 6th marks the five year anniversary of what I have dubbed an unorganized tour of the Capitol. And yet we saw thousands of great patriots persecuted to the likes we have never seen before in this country, including to the point of death. Who can forget Ashley Babbitt? She was one of the reasons why so many people took to the streets of the Capitol today in her honor and so many others. You could see there you had dozens, if not hundreds of people march on the Capitol in remembrance of a day that really, in many respects was our modern day Boston Tea Party. And I know that triggers the left to hear me say it. On hand to address the crowd was Ashley Babbitt's mother. The American people were attacked by the police that day. My daughter was shot by a police officer who had a disciplinary record that dates back decades. And in any other police force, he would have been fired, not promoted. He's been protected, he's been honored, he's got raises. He's. He's benefited both professionally and financially from the death of my daughter. So I want to see Michael Leroy Byrd held accountable. Well, he hasn't been held accountable. In fact, nobody has. Nobody inside the FBI has been held accountable for that day. And I think that's what has everybody so frustrated. Here we are five years later, and still we're waiting for action. I want to bring in national political reporter Neil McCabe to the program. Neil, it is great to have you on. Welcome. I know you are at that march and on the ground in D.C. today. Good evening. Hey, good to be with you, Grant. All right, so what was the mood there? Was it anger? Was it sadness? Tell me. Well, it was kind of a cocktail, Grant. If, you know, for a lot of guys, you know, five years ago, they were marching from the Ellipse down Pennsylvania Avenue with no idea what was waiting for them at the Capitol. And what was waiting for them at the end of the road was solitary confinement, jail, like the loss of their businesses, their families, their professional life, their professional reputation, and just, just wall to wall misery and attack by the government that was supposed to be protecting them. And yet here they were five years later because President Trump exercised his clemency, pardoned about 1500 J6ers. I think roughly a dozen were commuted. But, you know, there's still work to be done there. So it was bittersweet. There was a lot of anguish There was a lot of, a lot of people were kind of really emotionally torn when they, especially when they, when they actually saw the Capitol as they were marching towards it. But then there was also joy. GRANT There was joy at their freedom, and there was joy because, you know, they had been incarcerated with a lot of these people. And so it had that kind of reunion feel. So that's sort of all sort of mixed in together. GRANT as you can imagine, Neil, were most of the people former J6ers themselves? Yeah, the vast majority were J6ers, and many of them had served together. And, you know, a lot of them, a lot of them, they have nothing to their name. GRANT I mean, in a way, it's not really fair to ask these people to just sort of snap back and be normal after what was done to them. But they're trying and they're, they're strong, they're resilient, but they're suffering, too. And we have, we still have to remember they need help recovering and putting their lives back together. GRANT It's a great point, Neil. And we're going to be covering more of this on the show today. We've got a J6 or Jonathan Strand coming on a little later, and we're doing all we can here at RAV to raise some money for these folks as well, because their lives were destroyed. Neil McCabe, I appreciate you sharing some time with us tonight. Thank you. Good to be with you. Absolutely. I want to turn now to haha. More about the capture of Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela. We are learning what an unbelievable operation this was. President Trump again today hinted that maybe the cyber operations may have set the success up by shutting the lights out for the entire nation of Venezuela. Listen to this. But it was so brilliant. The electricity for almost the entire country was, boom, turned on. That's when they knew there was a problem. There was no electricity. Caracas said there's no electricity. It's not. The only people with lights were the people that had candles, which is off. So we sort of got him a little by surprise. But it was a brilliant, it was brilliant tactically. It was an incredible thing. Well, it really is a tribute to the United States military, President Trump having the cojones to make this call and then our military to carry it out. Now, I will say this. There are real strong signs that leftovers in the regime of Nicolas Maduro are still trying to hold a very violent grip on that country. We have heard that journalists have been arrested there. We have heard that anybody celebrating the capture of Nicolas Maduro is, is being arrested. So a lot of work to do there. This as the United States mainstream media show some kind of sympathy for this violent dictator. But she did appear in court yesterday with numerous bandages on her forehead, according to court sketches of the hearing yesterday. And Maduro, of course, he also had trouble kind of standing up and sitting down. So, you know, all of this kind of adds to the color surrounding the operation and the fact that it was much more chaotic than I think people originally assumed. These people are Ding Dongs. Well, I'm sorry that Maduro's wife has some bruises on her head and Nicholas Maduro, an evil killer, has some injuries. Are you kidding me? And more chaotic than we expected. You had Delta Force going in in the dark of night in a firefight with forces there to protect Maduro. Did anybody think it wasn't chaotic? Of course it was chaotic. That's what happens during a raid like this. But these Ding Dongs want somehow, you know, angels and unicorns to come in and somehow just scoop everybody up and. And you end on a fluffy pillow. This is why nobody watches CNN anymore. Now here's another reason why nobody watches the View anymore. Whoopi Goldberg. Listen to what she said about the capture of Maduro. While perhaps no one is going to miss a tyrant like Maduro, Is this a legal thing?
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I mean, who voted for this?
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Who said, hey, yeah, go on in there and do this? Well, I could tell you who voted for this, and I could tell you who wanted this. Not just the Venezuelan people that finally have some relief. But I'll give kudos where kudos are due. Anna Navarro, a woman I do not like very much, a woman that I do not agree with anything on. But she's Nicaraguan and she knows what it's like to live under a brutal regime. And she pushed back against. Whoopi Goldberg, your question. Who voted for this? The people in South Florida, the Venezuelan community, the Cuban American community, the Nicaraguan American community voted for this. And for us, this is a very, very happy day. When we see a dictator who has been part of oppressing and abusing the Venezuelan people for 25 years, when we see him in handcuffs and held to some sort of accountability, it brought me into tears. It brought me great joy. I'm proud of her for saying what's legit. The reality is she proved what I always say, politics are always selfish politics. She's from Nicaragua. She's right. But here's who else voted for this? A gringo like me. I wanted relief for the people of Venezuela. So it's not just the Hispanic community, the Venezuelan community, the Nicaraguan community. It's anybody who embraces freedom. I want to bring in now a guy who understandably embraces the idea of freedom. Real America's Voice correspondent who is live for us in Mexico tonight. Oscar Ramirez is with us. Oscar, welcome to the program.
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Grant, thank you for the invitation. Is always an honor to be with you.
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Well, the honor is mine, Oscar. You had provided us with some photos and maybe you're as you're talking, your sources inside Venezuela sent some photos to you of the damage of people that were injured, killed in this. I say people, those defending Nicolas Maduro. Amazing photos. But Venezuela is by no means out of the woods yet. Can you tell me what you're hearing from your sources inside Venezuela, Oscar?
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Yes, Grant. Around like seven or eight days ago, we were at this border and we broke the news that we said there's high tensions and there's a deployment at every border. We knew that something was gonna happen then the extraction. But a lot of people need to understand this is not even a dictator. This is a narco terrorist that he runs a criminal organization that is called Cartel de los Olles that he was trafficking all types of illegal and illicit situations like illicit substances into with Cartel Sinaloa in Mexico and Cartel Jalis Conoba Canelacion to penetrate and to contaminate the United States of America. There's other two bad actors that, that they need to be extracted and that already Marco Rubio said you complaining about extracting just Nicolas Maduro. Imagine if I would have extracted the three of them. You would have been crying right now. So these two bad actors are the ones that are oppressing the population right now of Venezuela. Diosdado Cabello and Padrino Lopez. These are really, really bad people. These people run the criminal organizations. They're running a collective group of motorcycle people to threatening the population of Venezuela at this moment.
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Grant Oscar, it seems like the plan for the Trump administration is to say, hey, look what we can do. You better do things that are in America's best interest here. We're going to give you some free rein to start to work this out as we take over the oil. How do we push back against these guys who are doing horrible things right now to anybody that shows any kind of happiness about what went down over.
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The weekend, well, they have to be extracted. That's the next thing. And they need to pressure that. She's the one that is stepping to the plate to run, you know, to run the country so they need to absolutely pressure this. You know, this guy Cabello today, he called that if he continues to be threatened, he will ask for Iran for firearms. And you know, yesterday they were having a confusion and a firefight in the middle of Caracas because there were drones that they were flying around. These drones are mojayer. These drones were made with intelligence of Iran. So they have all this situations that are continuously happening. And of course, Iranian intelligence is involved with these people. But these two individuals, these two bad actors, they need to immediately be extracted or they need to be immediately stopped. That is the number one goal. These are the people that they're terrorizing, the Venezuelan people. Without these two people being extracted, it is going to be completely difficult. Grant.
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All right. I'm sure the Trump administration is well aware of what you're saying here. It'll be interesting. President Trump didn't rule out a second wave. So we shall see what happens on that front. I am curious, though. You just came from Colombia. Colombia is another very bad actor in the drug trafficking of deadly drugs into America. Listen to what President Trump said about that today on Air Force One. Colombia is very sick, too, run by a sick man who likes making cocaine and selling it to the United States. And he's not going to be doing it very long, let me tell you. What does that mean?
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He's not going to be doing it very long?
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He's not doing it very long. He has cocaine mills and cocaine factories. He's not going to be doing it very long. So there will be an operation by the U.S. it sounds good to me. Sounds good to me. The president says, I don't underestimate President Trump at all when he says there's a possibility of this. What do you think happens in Colombia, Oscar? What needs to happen in Colombia?
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Look, Grant, last time Maduro was yelling to his public, come and get me, coward. Just a couple of days ago, Petro also was yelling to President Donald Trump, come and get me, coward. So don't be asking what you presently don't think that is going to happen if he continues making the tons and tons of cocaine with laboratories, with guerrilla groups, that they are basically, you know, in charge of these ports of entry, pedestrian ports of entry, like in LA farc, that these are terrorist guerillero groups, that they're located and that they construct and they made all these laboratories to traffic cocaine to the north of the continent. You know, you're asking for it. And I believe the United States of America has an incredible strategy. This what just happened on the extraction of Maduro. It is history, ladies and gentlemen. It is history for Latin America. It is history for everybody.
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It is.
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And you know, Donald Trump just created the enormous arrangement of peace and ending of socialism in South America.
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I would say it's also certainly a warning to guys like Gustavo Pietro. You know, before he took office, Colombia was on a basically a rebound, a successful track. I've got a friend who owns a condo in Medellin, says it's a lovely very metropolis city, loves going down there. Are Americans in danger now in Colombia? Should you be in Medellin after all this is happening and with the stance that this president is taking?
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Well, if the tensions rise, yes, absolutely. As I was in the borders with Colombia and Venezuela, Americans are completely in danger inside of Venezuela. They're kidnapping their own people. But in terms to Colombia, yes, if the tensions rise, it is going to be extremely difficult for Americans to stay in the part of Colombia. They're going to be targeted or they're going to be closing the embassy, the United States Embassy in Colombia. A lot of restrictions are going to be in terms to Americans. Just recently, Petro just signalized that he doesn't want drones to be flown in the capital of Bogota in certain places, that he thinks that it will be a threat to particularly gather information or intelligence against him. So he knows that steps are on his doorstep. So, you know, something in particular needs to happen immediately in that area.
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Well, the next topic we need to talk about, and maybe we save it for later on this week, Oscar, is we have Mexico and we have the cartels there. Mexico is a very different situation. We're a big trade partner with, with Mexico. It's a little more of a dance you may have to play there. But I'd love to get your thoughts later on about what we do with the president of Mexico, what we do with the cartels. I've been open and honest about saying we need to wage war inside Mexico on the cartels. And by hook or by cook, I don't care what the president of Mexico says. Real quick, 10 seconds. Your thoughts?
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She's gonna cave in, as everybody is gonna cave in. You know, the Trump administration has done nothing, something that nobody else has done, that the exposure of dirty politicians, basically signalizing that the cartels are terrorist organizations. That's a huge start. Let's see how she caves in with pressure. That's the strategy the Trump administration has done.
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Well, you heard it from Oscar Ramirez. The president of Mexico will cave. I would not bet against Oscar here. Nobody knows that region better than You, Oscar Ramirez, thank you for coming on tonight. As always, my friend.
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Thank you so much, Frank.
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All right.
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I want to turn now to the case against Maduro. I actually believe it is a very, very good one. This is Jonathan Turley of Fox News. If Maduro thought the operation was scary, wait till he reads the superseding indictment.
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I mean, it is really scary.
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If you're on the defense side, they've got a lot, including potentially high ranking cooperating witnesses. Well, he's talking about el polio, of course. That is Hugo Carvajal, who was basically now in a federal prison in the United States after running decades of operations for, for Nicolas Maduro and Hugo Chavez. He knows everything about what's going on there. And also I would remind you we had on that former Venezuelan hostage, the US Air Force veteran who was taken hostage. He says he has soldiers reaching out to him now to testify against Maduro. Quite stunning. I want to bring in the vice president of Legal affairs at Landmark Legal Foundation. Michael J. O' Neill is with us. Michael, it's great to have you on the program.
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Good to be with you, Grant. How are you today?
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I'm great, Michael. So, you know, when I look at Hugo Carvajal, who's El Pollo, right, I think of Sammy the Bull Gravano testifying against, against, you know, John Gotti, the Gambino crime family boss. A jury is going to have to weigh, are you saying this because you want favor with the government or you're afraid of being killed by these evil people? And how much do you believe you think this is a problem for the government?
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I don't think necessarily it's a problem for the government. Obviously they're gonna have to present him in the best possible light. I think this is an individual who, if I'm not mistaken, wrote that extensive letter laying out the bill of particulars regarding the activities of the Maduro regime, which kind of laid out in so many words, emphasized the fact that he was operating a narco terrorist regime, that he wasn't a legitimate leader of any kind of country. He was, as your previous guest had said, the head of the cartel De la Soul. So I think that the witnesses, obviously, they're going to be gathered and presented in front of a jury in New York are going to be presented in the best possible light. Obviously, they're going to be subject to cross examination. The lawyers that are representing Maduro are sophisticated, smart lawyers. So there is going to be a full airing of all of the evidence. But I do think the government's indictment, as Professor Turley had indicated, is very strong. I think the evidence is strong and I think the US Government knows exactly how to prosecute these sorts of cases. Think back to the Manuel Noriega prosecution from the 1990s as precedent here.
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Yeah, we had talked about Noriega and the prosecution. Basically he made the same arguments that Maduro is set to make. It was virtually the same charges about trafficking drugs in to the United States. The difference, and I'm curious, Michael, is obviously a different time. When Noriego was captured, we didn't have radical courts. At least it doesn't seem like we have radical courts like we have now. And then when I hear this is happening in New York, I get all tense about what's going to happen there. I see this 92 year old judge who's overseeing it, a Clinton appointee, seems to be, and maybe, correct me if I'm wrong, a decent Judge, Democrat, but 92 years old, oversaw some September 11th cases. How do you see the courts handling this and should we be concerned now with this radical ideology that's kind of infiltrated our court system?
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I don't, I'm not really concerned about the court system or this particular judge. I think he's going to call balls and strikes here. The president is fairly strong. It's out of the 11th Circuit, so it's not necessarily controlling to the New York courts, but it is precedent and it is directly applicable. This is the 11th Circuit decision regarding the Noriega issues. So I think that the courts are going to look for guidance to that. And I think this judge is going to call balls and strikes, though there is a, there is a potential roadblock here or a speed bump, if you will. And of course, this is the venue and let's you were talking about the judicial system. This is a fairly blue area of the country, as we all know. So there is going to be a selection of a jury pool from people who might be predisposed to be against President Trump or his agenda. And the question is whether they're going to bring the those biases into a courtroom and whether the prosecutions are going to be able to identify those individuals who might not be able to objectively analyze the facts and evidence presented to them and impugn their kind of own biases to maybe sidetrack this prosecution. But again, the Southern District of New York, that's chock full of experienced prosecutors who know what they're doing. It's not a coincidence that it was brought there in that jurisdiction. But again, thinking about the jury pool, that's something that we should all be aware of going forward. But that's not for months yet.
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You know, for a long time New York was thought to at least have a decent jury pool on cases like this, especially after 9, 11, knowing how they were affected by terrorism. But this is a city run by a governor that literally lit up Freedom Tower in Hamas green in recognition of Muslim Month. I mean, that in New York City. If you would have told me that on, you know, September 11, 2004, I would have been out of my mind. So I think, you know, things have changed. But let's hope, because the worst thing that could happen is this guy skates.
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Yeah. And I don't see that happening. And even if he worst case scenario, said there's a not guilty verdict, hopefully by then there's some stability in Venezuela. So he could be maybe repatriated and tried in Venezuela for crimes there. Keep in mind, Noriega was tried in the United States, served prison time in the United States, but was extradited to France, France afterwards and was tried in France and then was returned to Panama and tried in Panama. So although it might be the bite at the apple for the US Judicial system, and again, I have confidence in the Prosecution of the U.S. of the Prosecutors in the Southern District of New York, it probably isn't the end of the road when it comes to all types of prosecution for him. So presumably by the time we're talking months and months down the road, there will be some stability within Venezuela and there will be some sort of semblance of a judicial system that's going to be relatively objective there as well.
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Well, with the Landmark Legal Foundation, Michael J. O', Neill, great assessment on all of this. I appreciate you coming in and laying it out for us tonight. Thank you.
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Thanks, Grant. Have a great day.
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Absolutely. You too. I think some good takeaways from that is basically, this guy's not going anywhere. He's not getting off. There's so many ways to go down, no matter what happens, that Maduro's in some deep, deep trouble. All right. A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. So until January 30th, if you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility and start the process, just text America to the number 989-898. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold and you're still Eligible for a rebate of up to ten grand. Make right now your first time to buy gold and take advantage of a rebate. Up to 10,000 when you buy by January 30th. Text America to the number 989898. Claim your eligibility today. Again, text America to the number 989-898. All right, Minnesota is just the tip of the iceberg. There is more massive fraud coming to light in several, well, let's just say blue states. Go figure. We'll get into that next. Fraud is unfolding across the country, mostly in blue states and blue cities. Ground zero right now, of course, is Minnesota, where Governor Tim Walls is under fire for basically letting it all happen, enabling it to happen. But instead of taking responsibility for his actions and resigning right now, which he should do instead, he says this. Every minute that I spend defending my own political interest would be a minute.
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I can't spend defending the people of.
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Minnesota against the criminals who prey on our generosity and the cynics who want to prey on our differences. So I've decided to step out of this race and I'll let others worry about the election while I focus on the work that's in front of me for the next year. So he's going to step out of the race, but that's not good enough. He ought to step down. And I believe there is the possibility of criminal charges against him. If it comes out that he or Keith Ellison, the Attorney general, which there's some evidence that he was aware of the fraud going on, not only knew about it, but enabled it and did nothing about it. I believe there's some criminal liability there for Governor Walls as of course, President Trump. Floods border patrol. 2000 agents headed to Minnesota right now. This is a blue state problem, though. It's not just Minnesota. Turning to Massachusetts, we're learning more about Haitian fraud in Massachusetts. Apparently these Snap Benefit stores are doing upwards of 100 to 500,000amonth with no customers and no food. Own the Soul Mache Mix a store. These two businesses were co located within a single storefront in Boston. To be certain, these were not supermarkets. They were not full service groceries. It would be a huge stretch to even call them convenience stores. In fact, the only thing convenient about these stores was how easy it was to commit Snap Benefit fraud upwards. As she says in the indictment, 500,000amonth, some stores, and they can't even be considered stores. And then of course, there's California. California may be the Titanic of fraud. Okay, here's President Trump. We got to straighten this out before it gets too crazy. California is more corrupt than any place. California is more corrupt than Minnesota. And I won Minnesota. Tom's Gordon? I think so. Well, it's close. Can't be proportionately. Probably nothing's more corrupt, right? Well, California is very corrupt. Who's the leader of California? Gavin Newsom. What does Gavin Newsom say about the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walsh? This tells you all you need to know. Tim Walls is a man of character. He tweets strength and compassion. He has served Minnesota with heart and dignity. That from Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom may be calling Tim Walls a man of character and dignity because he knows that Tim Walls has none, just as Gavin Newsom has none. Gavin Newsom may be worse off when we get into this than Tim Walls is. Sit on that for a moment. I want to bring in now to discuss this Republican member of the California State Assembly, David Tangipa is with us. Assemblyman, it's great to have you on the program.
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It's always great to join you.
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All right, Gavin Newsom, compared to Tim Walls, what's your thoughts?
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Well, like you said in the beginning, Minnesota is just the tip of the iceberg. But what's going to sink the ship is California. And that's what I think is what's going to do it for the Democratic Party to realize that the American people are being stolen from and we are not doing enough to call it out and some of our colleagues. The governor of California is defending the governor of Minnesota. When he knew about this, when departments within his own state said it is this bad. Tim Walz was almost our vice president. We were going to allow him to fail his way upwards. And now Governor Newsom wants to be the President of the United States. This is why journalism is so important. And what I really like to think about is how the American Revolution started because of a 2% tax on an English breakfast drink. And right now we have the highest income tax, the highest property taxes, the highest grocery cost, all of that in the state of California. And yet we are not angry enough. And now we know that they're using the money to steal from us, to backfill pockets into donations, to then make sure that they're taking the budget and reallocating that back for fraud, waste and abuse. The people of America and the people of California need to step up, demand better, and say no to Gavin Newsom and no more fraud.
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All right, I'm going to lay something on your shoulders, which is going to be a lot to lay on your shoulders, and really there's only a few other Republicans in your state that can help you. If you folks there in Sacramento don't be at the heart of uncovering the real fraud in California, you have the ability to stop Gavin Newsom's presidential aspirations in its tracks. The national media isn't going to do it. I believe it's got to come from Republicans in Sacramento to uncover this and ultimately let conservative media run with whatever you find. But this is about saving the country now by exposing Gavin Newsom. Your thoughts on that?
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Assembly well, Grant, I'll tell you this right now. I will sign up for that. When I ran for office, I tell everybody I signed up for suffering and we're gonna see some pain and abuse. And I have a new record here in Sacramento. I am the fastest legislator to be kicked off of committees, and they didn't even give me a chance to call them corrupt. Now we know how to find it. Now we know how they've messed up. They've gotten way over their skis. They thought they'd get away with it forever. But I'm sorry, there's a new group of Republicans up here in Sacramento that are going to hold this state accountable. And I don't care if they kick me off, I don't care if they remove me from being a part of the conversation. When we find out where all of this fraud is going, why certain nonprofits are going from $2 million allocations a year to $35 million a year to having their their administrative costs exceed over 40 to 50% and not providing a single general benefit or any nonprofit services yet. They can spend over $1 million on lobbying. We know exactly what the state of California is doing. I'll tell you this right now. We'll keep you updated. And we've got a lot to talk about once we uncover this entire thing.
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You know, there's so many places to start. You've got the high speed rail billion spent, basically no tracks laid. You've got homelessness $24 billion and homelessness continues to increase. Where's the money going? Is there one spot, Assemblyman, where you want to dig in, that you think think is ripe right now to expose?
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I really do. One, there's a lot I've done on the on high speed rail, I worked with Secretary Duffy and the reason why they pulled back that $4 billion. Here's one aspect I'll give you really quickly is there's a clause in high speed rail called non execution of contract, where contractors are owed $170,000 a day. If there are any delays whatsoever, we've been able to find out that over $800 million has been paid out on that clause, which means they paid $800 million for zero work to be done on a parcel because they parked equipment. That's what's happening with the California taxpayer money. And then we've also been able to find out on different social programs, whether it's snap, but also the NGO industrial complex is something that I think is beyond dangerous. I talked about a couple groups like Shirla that we've heard Congressman Kevin Kiley talk about. There's something else there. There's another one that's there which has to do with Social Entrepreneurs for Economic Development which gives cash payer assistance to illegal immigrants, not to the American people. When one out of every five Californian right now can't afford their own utility rates and we are giving money away to fraud, waste and abuse. This whole iceberg I'm going to need your help on to uncover this is what's going to sink the ship and this is what's going to save America and really put us back on track.
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Well, I'll tell you what, Assemblyman, we're here. As you start to uncover any of this stuff, you just let us know. We'll help push it out to as many of the conservative media outlets as we can, including here on Real America's Voice, because it's going to take a total team effort to stop Gavin Newsom, save the taxpayers of California money, and really taxpayers in just about every state money, because this is going on across the country. But Assemblyman, it's great to have you on the program. Where can people find you?
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It's an easy name to find me. It's David Tongipa. Tangipa is the easiest way to spell it. I do have a beer named after me. Most people can't say my last name, but they can at least drink it. But if they look that up, they'll find me on any social media. Instagram, Facebook. It's Polynesian. It's only mine. So it's a pretty easy one to find.
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Assemblyman Tangipa, I've been getting better at your name as the years and months go on. I appreciate all the work you do. Thanks for coming on.
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Thank you for having me.
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Absolutely. All right, folks, as Today is the five year anniversary of January 6th, you need to check out RAV's new J6 documentary, the Sleeping Giant, available now on our new and improved mobile app. Just scan that QR code on your screen right There to get started. And up next, as I mentioned, Today is the fifth anniversary of January 6th, and there is still no retribution. We will talk about it with AJ6 or a good friend of mine coming up next. Welcome back, everyone. On the fifth anniversary of January6, the White House has released a new web page on the official White House website. It goes through the timeline of January 6, explaining the truth about what happened that day. The reality is we had literally hundreds of people show up on the capitol steps today, five years later, most of them J6ers, because they're angry there still has not been retribution to those that persecuted them. Listen to Sarah Maccabee, AJ6 or herself. 95% of America has forgotten because on January 20th, with the stroke of a pen, they left prison. It is not over. They went home to broken families, they sold their homes, they lost their cars. 72% of them were veterans or law enforcement officers. Their rights need to be restored, especially for those 12 that are still not pardoned. The fight is far from over. Emotionally, financially, families, you name it. I mean, time taken from them, from the people that served so long in prison for absolutely no reason. There are some pretty darn good things that had come out of this. And I always say, out of every tragedy, and this was a tragedy, there are some good things that happen. Like the story of my buddy, Jonathan Strand. He was a J6 political prisoner. He is now a Republican congressional candidate in Florida. My man, John Strand is here. John, welcome back, Grant.
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It's always great to be with you. Thank you so much for having me. And, boy, what an important and somber day, like you said. But I'm glad that you're highlighting this very important issue.
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All right, John, I'll just say this. When you first went into prison, and I want to say, you were Simone Gold, Dr. Simone Gold's bodyguard. You did nothing. We've tracked your movements. I'm not going to relitigate that. But you did nothing that day wrong. You went into prison. I was communicating.
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You.
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You were cut off from me and so many others. They would not allow you. If I would have said you'd be running for Congress in 20, 26, five years ago, or four years ago, I never would have thought this day would have come, my friend.
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Me neither. But it's amazing what God can do through the darkest of times to really bring into focus what matters, what we care about, what we're fighting for. Grant, you and I have both been fighting for truth and liberty and justice in America, really, for much of our lives. But in the last few years since the COVID chaos that really crystallized things in January 6 followed soon after when the uniparty deep state clearly tried to rig and steal an election. We have concrete proof of that now, as well as concrete proof that J6 was a setup. But, yeah, it really galvanized me. The government tried to destroy me, Grant. And they've tried to destroy many J6ers. They have destroyed many, as Sarah McAbee just noted. That's really heartbreaking. But I just want to urge people to realize 2026 is our generation's 1776. This is not the midterms. This is the final countdown to decide if we are going to engage in our government, take back our country, reclaim the republic. As I am saying@johnstrand.com and yeah, I've been galvanized into a patriot warrior that I love this country. I'll do anything to save it. And God's called me to step forward and run For Congress in Florida 19.
A
John, you were imprisoned for how long again?
D
366 days. It was a leap year. And I served one year, then released because I was innocent. Vindicated by the Supreme Court and then fully exonerated when the DOJ vacated all charges, even without a priority pardon.
A
All right, have you gotten all of your full rights back? I mean, if you were to go buy a firearm, are you able to do that? Is all the paperwork done to restore your rights completely done? Yeah.
D
The DOJ vacated all charges, which means they never existed. There is no criminal record, there is no case, there is no charge. So I am fresh as the clean driven snow, as they say. But I'm going to take that energy into Congress on August 18th of 2026. That's the primary. But in Florida, 19, that's the entire election. It's an open field without an incumbent. We can win this if we get enough patriots to go to johnstrand.com we have to get them to donate and share because this campaign is not funded by the establishment. Our mission is to dismantle the uniparty establishment and actually return power to the people.
A
Well, you know, you have my support on all of this. And I want to remind everybody, John was offered a plea deal. Like Simone Gold was refused to take it because he said I'm innocent. Well, the courts basically turned their backs on him through the radical ideology of our court system today. What are you most frustrated about now, John? I mean, really, nobody has paid a price for what they did to you and the thousands of others that day.
D
It's True. And that could not be more frustrating, Grant. Not just to me. I know that all Americans all across the country are furious, and they should be. They're also furious that their government is stealing all of their money. The Somali daycare fraud story has touched a nerve, and it's really just taken the emperor's new clothes that don't exist off to show that just the naked corruption of Congress and our federal government at large and our entire governmental system. There's just a huge lack of courage and a virtue. And it's just time for American patriots, American citizens all across the country, to roll up their sleeves to get back engaged in their government. And I'm gonna do my part, but I need everyone to help join me@johnstrand.com and we're gonna really fight for justice and accountability. We're gonna fight for the truth to be delivered and for arrests to happen and for prosecutions to be happening, because we need justice to be delivered for the people.
A
Before I let you go, because I do like to name names on this real quick if you can, because I'm running short on time here. Is there one person that you want maybe from your case or what you saw on January six, the first person that should be hauled into court in handcuffs and held accountable for this?
D
Well, I mean, my federal prosecutor was Mr. Jason Manning, who's already been fired, you know, appropriately, but he lied directly in court. April Ayers Perez was another prosecutor who. I'm not sure she's been fired, but she lied in open court.
A
That's.
D
That's criminal activity under color of law to deprive me of my rights. And the judges in the D.C. district, all of them, literally all of them. My. My judge was Christopher Cooper, no exception. But all the D.C. judges are corrupt. It's. It's travesty. And as. As a Congressman, I pledge to the American people, I will be fighting to completely abolish the D.C. district Court, which never should have been created in the first place. The District of Columbia does not need a federal court system. It's only supposed to be the seat of the federal government, not a city itself. So that's one of Congress.
A
I'm glad I asked you that question, because Congress does have the right to do that. They can set the courts up however they want. John Strand, I wish you the best of luck in your race for Congress. Anything I can do to help you. One more time, the website super quick.
D
Johnstrand.Com patriot for Congress. And I will never stand down and never sell out in the fight for freedom in America.
A
I can back him up on that. I believe you, John. John Strand. Thank you, my friend, as always. And right now, you need to check out iTunes. The J6 Prison Choir's new hit single, anthem of the Free. Keep this song at the top of the charts by downloading it now. Just scan that QR code on your screen. Their full album, Album of the Freeze, is due out later this month as well. And this fifth anniversary of January 6th, we learn more about the hardships still facing these patriots and how you can help them next. Welcome back, everyone. So the question is, how do you help those suffering from what the government, our government, did to the men and women who were at the Capitol on January 6th. They are victims of political persecution. Well, I want to bring in now one of those individuals who was persecuted himself from our DC Studios, the founder of Stand in the Gap, an organization dedicated to getting J6 political prisoners their lives back. Shane Jenkins was sentenced. I don't know, Shane, what was it, 84 months they gave you before President Trump pardoned you?
B
Yes, sir. I got 84 months. I did 14, 18 days or 46 and a half months in custody. Yes, sir.
A
Well, I'm sorry you had to go through all that. I'm glad President Trump pardoned you. But here, you get out and you start this organization, Stand in the Gap. Why don't you tell me what you guys are focused on?
B
Yes, sir. I actually started it. I cast the vision for it on the inside two years prior to my release. And I had been doing nonprofit work with the prison ministry. Got to go back into prisons and share the gospel message, because that is. That is the main mission, the eternal missions. But to talk about standing in the gap, we, we. We are helping January Sixers right now. We are helping them put their lives back together. And if they need, if their money, they fall, they lose a job, fall short on their rent or whatever it is, we want to be there, to walk right alongside them, to stand in the gap, as we say, for them. And so, yes, sir.
E
What.
A
What's the biggest problem facing J6ers when. When they call you for help? What. What's the biggest problem? You see, that's a.
B
There's many, many different problems. I think one of the biggest things is especially with the guys and gals who did the most time, we suffered through extended periods of solitary confinement. You're talking multiple years on my personal case that I did in solitary confinement. So adapting back into society after you've already already lost your. Your family, your home, your Business, whatever it is, and trying to put your life back together after you've suffered these traumas from what you went through in jail, being isolated and labeled a domestic terrorist. It's very challenging. Not to mention the fact that many people were pardoned if they, if I go apply for a job and they do a background check, they're going to pull up my name and it's going to say all my January 6th charges. And in the end, and really fine print, it's going to say pardoned by the president. So if I go to any job that has any kind of leftist in HR or whatever, they're going to throw my application in the trash or put them in the bottom of the stack. So there are multi, multiple problems. But we want to be there to walk alongside all these men and women.
A
You know, it's amazing. My buddy John Strand, who we just had on, he too was thrown into solitary confinement. I've talked to so many individuals like yourself who were, you know, that's punishment for evil, vile criminals that have done great harm to Americans. Any common sense American would see this, this was not a coup. This was, this was not anything like that. And yet they treated you like Islamic holy warriors trying to kill Americans. Crazy to me. And thinking back that nobody yet has been persecuted on the other side or held accountable. The retribution just isn't there, Shane.
B
Right. No, and that's, that's something that we're holding our breath waiting for, is accountability. But it's funny that you say that. We actually in the D.C. jail were denied visitors for two years. We were denied religious services for two years, even denied haircuts for a year and fingernail clippers for a year. So we actually wrote a letter to an attorney and we requested to be moved to Guantanamo Bay because we knew the actual 911 terrorists were receiving their halal meals, they were being allowed prayer time outside. They were getting the things that they deserved. It was actually published in Rolling Stone. But we, I have been to jail before and I have never been treated the way we were treated by this D.C. jail. There needs be to be accountability. Absolutely.
A
Well, there sure does. All right, Shane, why don't you tell people how they can help by, by getting with Stand in the Gap.
B
Yes, sir. If you go to Stand in the Gap foundation, please check us out there. You can donate vehicles, you can don, it's, it is the end of the year. You can donate. Cash is good. But we're also, you know, we're, we're fighting for all these people and, and there's needs coming in all the time. I've spoken to several J6ers today. They are. They're trying to put their lives back together. So drop us a 5 or a 10 or whatever. Or if you have a vehicle that's sitting in your garage that one of your kids got got rid of, doesn't need anymore, by all means, donate it to you. You will get a tax write off for it. So we appreciate any of that.
A
As I said earlier, there are some great things that did come out of this tragedy and your organization is one of them. We appreciate you coming on the program. We're glad you're doing well and thank you for helping others.
B
Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.
A
Absolutely. All right, folks. President Trump reveals the first lady's opinion on his dancing. What's wrong with his dancing? It's next. Welcome back, everyone. President Trump, do I have time for it? I don't know if I do. I think I'm going to have to save it for tomorrow. This is talking about his dancing and what Melania said. We'll save it for tomorrow. But what could possibly be wrong with the way President Trump danced? I can't even. I can't even do it, but I try. Stitchfield's army rolls. We'll see you tomorrow night, folks. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Host: Grant Stinchfield
Date: January 7, 2026
This episode marks the five-year anniversary of the January 6th events at the U.S. Capitol. Host Grant Stinchfield frames the day as both a memorial for those involved—especially the late Ashli Babbitt—and a rallying call for those affected, especially the individuals who were prosecuted in connection with the events. The episode explores the current state of those so-called “J6ers,” new political developments (including Trump pardons and ongoing calls for retribution), and pivots into sharp coverage of international affairs (notably the U.S. operation to extract Venezuela’s Nicolás Maduro). The show also covers alleged fraud in blue states, especially Minnesota and California, and ties everything together through interviews with activists, correspondents, J6 participants, and legal and political experts.
Opening Reflection: Grant Stinchfield recounts January 6 ("what I have dubbed an unorganized tour of the Capitol") and pays tribute to Ashli Babbitt and others.
“Who can forget Ashley Babbitt?... You had dozens, if not hundreds of people, march on the Capitol in remembrance of a day that really, in many respects, was our modern day Boston Tea Party.” (A, 01:19)
Ashli Babbitt’s Mother Speaks:
Her statement re-emphasizes perceived injustice after her daughter's death and calls for accountability:
"My daughter was shot by a police officer who had a disciplinary record that dates back decades. ...I want to see Michael Leroy Byrd held accountable. Well, he hasn't been held accountable. In fact, nobody has. Nobody inside the FBI has been held accountable for that day." (A, ~02:21)
Emotional Mix at the Capitol:
McCabe describes the atmosphere as “a cocktail” of emotions—joy at being free for some, anguish for losses endured (careers, family, reputation).
“It was bittersweet. There was a lot of anguish ...but then there was also joy at their freedom, and there was joy because they had been incarcerated with a lot of these people. And so it had that kind of reunion feel.” (B, 03:08)
Pardons and Ongoing Challenges:
Trump pardoned around 1,500 J6ers, but many still struggle to rebuild their lives.
“We still have to remember they need help recovering and putting their lives back together.” (A, 04:06)
Trump’s Role & the Operation:
The episode highlights a daring U.S. military raid in Venezuela, suggested to have involved large-scale cyber tactics ("the electricity for almost the entire country was, boom, turned off").
“It was a brilliant,...tactically. It was an incredible thing. ...It really is a tribute to the United States military, President Trump having the cojones to make this call and then our military to carry it out.” (A, 06:17)
Media Critique & Public Debate:
Grant mocks mainstream media for expecting a “non-chaotic” international military raid and criticizes coverage sympathetic to Maduro’s family and their injuries.
“These people are Ding Dongs. ...Did anybody think it wasn’t chaotic? Of course it was chaotic. That’s what happens during a raid like this.” (A, 07:01)
Soundbite from "The View" & Rebuttal:
Whoopi Goldberg questions the legitimacy of the operation. Grant, grudgingly, credits Anna Navarro for her pushback.
“‘Who voted for this?’ ...the Venezuelan community, the Cuban American community, the Nicaraguan American community voted for this.” (A, 07:37 & following)
[09:07–16:24]
Post-Raid Chaos & Narco-Terrorism:
Oscar Ramirez asserts Maduro was not just a dictator but a “narco terrorist” running the “Cartel de los Olles” in cooperation with Mexican cartels, deeply involving Iran.
“...This is not even a dictator. This is a narco terrorist ...he runs a criminal organization ...trafficking all types of illegal and illicit situations ...to contaminate the United States of America.” (C, 10:05)
Concerns about Colombia:
The threat extends to Colombia's president, whom Ramirez and Grant say is also implicated in narco-trafficking.
“Colombia is very sick, too, run by a sick man who likes making cocaine and selling it to the United States. And he’s not going to be doing it very long, let me tell you.” (A quoting Trump, 12:37)
[16:27–22:49]
Jonathan Turley & Michael O’Neill on the Maduro Case:
The U.S. has a strong legal case, with high-profile witnesses (like Hugo Carvajal, “El Pollo”) set to testify.
“If Maduro thought the operation was scary, wait till he reads the superseding indictment. ...They've got a lot, including potentially high ranking cooperating witnesses.” (A quoting Turley, 16:42)
Jury Concerns:
Discussion on whether a New York jury will be fair, given the political climate, but confidence remains in the Southern District's prosecutors and process.
“...there is a potential roadblock here ...the venue ...a jury pool from people who might be predisposed to be against President Trump or his agenda. ...But the Southern District of New York, that's chock-full of experienced prosecutors who know what they’re doing.” (E, 20:17)
[~24:00–33:40]
Minnesota:
Large-scale fraud in SNAP benefits; Governor Walz is under fire and announces withdrawal from the race, but Stinchfield and guests say that’s insufficient.
"He ought to step down. And I believe there is the possibility of criminal charges against him..." (A, 24:47)
Massachusetts:
Details of Haitian fraud with supposed stores committing half-a-million dollars per month in SNAP fraud.
California Spotlight
Interview with Republican Assemblyman David Tangipa.
“...now Governor Newsom wants to be the President of the United States. This is why journalism is so important.” (F, 28:13) “I am the fastest legislator to be kicked off of committees, and they didn't even give me a chance to call them corrupt.” (F, 29:57)
[33:42–46:45]
Sarah McAbee (J6er):
“95% of America has forgotten... They went home to broken families, they sold their homes, they lost their cars. 72% of them were veterans or law enforcement officers.” (A quoting McAbee, 34:41)
John Strand (J6er, now Congressional candidate):
Shares his journey from political prisoner (366 days in prison, now fully exonerated) to running for Congress, making the case that this is a pivotal moment for the nation:
“The government tried to destroy me, Grant. And they've tried to destroy many J6ers. They have destroyed many, as Sarah McAbee just noted... I just want to urge people to realize 2026 is our generation's 1776.” (D, 36:33–37:08)
Persecution and Lack of Accountability:
John voices deep frustration over zero accountability for prosecutors and judges, names individuals involved in his prosecution, and calls for the abolition of the D.C. district court.
“That's criminal activity under color of law to deprive me of my rights. …As a Congressman, I pledge to the American people, I will be fighting to completely abolish the D.C. district Court...” (D, 40:47)
Personal Experience:
Jenkins served 46.5 months of an 84-month sentence before being pardoned; describes harsh jail conditions, solitary confinement, and continued struggles with employment despite the pardon.
“There's many, many different problems. I think one of the biggest things is... we suffered through extended periods of solitary confinement...Adapting back into society after you’ve already lost your family, your home, your business...and trying to put your life back together after you’ve suffered these traumas...” (B, 43:57)
Services Provided:
Stand in the Gap offers practical support (financial, housing, job help) for J6ers reintegrating into society.
“We are helping January Sixers right now. ...We want to be there, to walk right alongside them, to stand in the gap, as we say, for them.” (B, 43:14)
Call to Action:
Listeners are encouraged to donate, including vehicles or cash, to support the ongoing needs of J6ers re-entering society.
Grant on January 6th:
“In many respects, was our modern day Boston Tea Party. And I know that triggers the left...”
(A, 01:30)
Neil McCabe, on the J6ers’ experience:
“Just wall to wall misery and attack by the government that was supposed to be protecting them. And yet here they were five years later because President Trump exercised his clemency...”
(B, 03:21)
Oscar Ramirez, on Maduro:
“This is not even a dictator. This is a narco terrorist... He runs a criminal organization...”
(C, 10:05)
Assemblyman Tangipa, on CA fraud:
“They thought they'd get away with it forever. But I'm sorry, there's a new group of Republicans up here in Sacramento that are going to hold this state accountable.”
(F, 29:57)
Sarah McAbee, on lost lives:
“They went home to broken families, they sold their homes, they lost their cars. 72% of them were veterans or law enforcement officers. Their rights need to be restored...”
(A quoting McAbee, 34:41)
John Strand, on 2026 as a turning point:
“2026 is our generation’s 1776. …This is the final countdown to decide if we are going to engage in our government, take back our country, reclaim the republic.”
(D, 37:08)
Shane Jenkins, on solitary confinement:
“We actually wrote a letter to an attorney and we requested to be moved to Guantanamo Bay... we knew the actual 911 terrorists were receiving their halal meals, they were being allowed prayer time outside... I have never been treated the way we were treated by this D.C. jail.”
(B, 45:23)
This episode intertwines memorializing January 6th with a strong narrative of injustice and resilience among those prosecuted, bolstering calls for renewed activism and legal/political action. It features combative commentary on U.S. foreign policy, U.S. legal battles, and ongoing domestic fraud scandals, framing them within a consistent anti-establishment, pro-Trump, and conservative populist tone. From interviews with activists to state legislators, each guest underscores themes of accountability, retribution, and the need for the conservative movement to continue mobilizing for 2026 and beyond.
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