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So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-IHEART or go to iheartadvertising.com that's 844-844-iheart or iheartadvert. Well, good evening everyone. Welcome to Stitchfield, an absolute tragic weekend. Tragic weekend because of leftist leadership. I should say failed leftist leadership. It was on display. It Was on display in Australia. It was on display in Providence, Rhode island, at Brown University. Two mass shootings that quite frankly didn't need to happen. The reason they happened is because leftist leadership leads us to this position between gun control and immigration policies. All a recipe for disaster. In Australia. You had 15 people dead on Bondi beach and 29 people injured as these Islamic terrorists were going after Jewish people on the beach there. Those are pictures of the shooters. Absolute craziness. Then at Brown University, you got two people dead, nine people injured. One of the dead, by the way, is a beautiful young lady named Ella Cook who happened to be the vice president of the College Republican. Now, I don't believe in coincidences, so I'd like to know if she was targeted. I'm trying to get confirmed that it was a Judeo studies class. I can't get that confirmed anywhere in the mainstream media. Doesn't want to talk about that now. They still don't have the killer in custody from the Brown shooting. This is a school with 800 plus cameras on it and all they can show us is this lame surveillance video they got the suspect on. But it's lame. And so the Brown president was asked about what happened and hours later, she has still no idea. Failed liberal leadership.
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Robert Spencer
President, with all due respect, six hours.
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After this shooting and you said you.
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Grant Stinchfield
Don'T know what was going on in that classroom. How does that happen? Were they taking an exam? Were they meeting for a club? I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Grant Stinchfield
Six hours later and you're the president and you don't know?
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I do not know.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, that's kind of concerning. Concerning to say the least. If you're the leader of that campus, you bring everybody in, you say, I want to know what happened. What class was it? Who was the teacher? What were they doing? We're told they were studying, but you can't get any real answers except for this grainy surveillance video that isn't even really all that good. And so they say they have a description. They had somebody in custody. Had to let that guy go. So he was in custody. Oh, forgive me. Political correctness is everywhere, I guess. Apparently you can't say in custody.
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Now someone's in custody. How you all are working together to garner that information is the wrong word.
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Grant Stinchfield
Someone being detained, rather correct. And so, yeah, someone being detained. He led us to that point. Was that Joe Biden whispering in his ear? Custody is the wrong word.
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Robert Spencer
Why?
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Grant Stinchfield
Detained and custody, what the hell's the difference? People just want to know information. Stop Worrying about what words you use and what people will be offended by anything. All of this paints a picture. So $71,000 a year, you can't put security at least in the building, I would say on every floor and really I would allow professors and students to carry. They're not going to do that at Brown. $71,000 a year, no real security, no cops. This is the attorney general asked about that.
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Dr. John Lott
Somehow if you have a speeding ticket and a flock camera or some other speeding camera to capture you, how you can have a position where there's hundreds of cameras in that immediate maybe thousands.
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Grant Stinchfield
In fact I'd love to know how many.
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Dr. John Lott
How is it possible not to any other evidence surrounding this. And this is ordinary Rhode Islanders reaching out to law enforcement and they're confused.
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Grant Stinchfield
By that and quite frankly some of them are terrified. Well look, there just.
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Dr. John Lott
There just weren't a lot of cameras.
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Grant Stinchfield
In that brown building is the reality. It's. You don't get any answers. So again it's not just Providence, Rhode island, you can go to Australia. These liberals are a joke. And the problem is this woke anti gun ideology by the left is getting people killed. It played out over the weekend. The gun laws both in Providence on the brown campus, they're gun free zones by the way. Australia had a massive buyback program. You gotta go back to 1996. They confiscated tens of thousands of guns. But of course guess who didn't turn in the guns? Criminals. Criminals aren't turning the guns. So they virtually just disarmed the law abiding public to give criminals free will. It had no effect on the murder rate in Australia. They don't want to tell you about that. And their answer to the shooting in Bondi is more gun control. What more are you going to do in Australia? You took people's guns away. The government is prepared to take whatever action is necessary. Included in that is the need for tougher gun laws.
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Robert Spencer
Gun laws including limits on the number of guns that can be be used.
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Or licensed by individuals. A review of licenses over a period of time.
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Robert Spencer
People's circumstances change.
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Grant Stinchfield
People can be radicalized. Anyone asked whether these guys, these Muslim terrorists had licenses? My guess is they probably didn't. All of this doesn't do any good. You want to do good? Let the people of Australia, Providence, Rhode island, every other city carry a firearm if they want to. And good guys with guns will always stop bad guys with guns. Sadly it took this hero and I want to show the video before I bring in my guests. This video was unbelievable. This Hero approaches the guy. Can we put it up there, guys? 22, watch this closely. Watch this guy. He tackles the guy, wrestles the gun away. He shot in the process. By the way, who knows how many lives that guy saved. And by the way, that was a Muslim man who did that. So. And I'm here to tell you the dangers of Islamic terror. Not all Muslims are bad. Some are heroes. That guy is one of them. All right, I want to bring in now very good friend of mine, Breitbart Second Amendment columnist, AOR AWR Hawkins is with us. Awr, it's great to see you, my friend.
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AWR Hawkins
Good to be with you, buddy.
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Dunham Biles
All right.
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Grant Stinchfield
You and I have talked a lot about this over the years. Liberal, I call it leadership, but that's not what it is. People who push liberal policies that are elected into office are getting people killed. Awr, right?
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AWR Hawkins
No, that's exactly right. You talked about Brown. Look at Brown. I mean, Brown has gun free policies. And explicitly the policy I wrote on it at Breitbart, the policy explicitly states that there is no exemption for someone who has a concealed carry permit. In other words, if you have gone through all of that, jump through the hoops to get a concealed carry permit, who cares? You still must be defenseless on campus. That's the school's position. And so just to your point, it's ridiculous. And I'm not even saying this to put Brown down per se, I'm saying this with a broad swipe about numerous schools. If I'm picking a school to attend, the school I attend is a school that allows campus carry, particularly campus carry. If you have a concealed carry permit or if you're in a constitutional carry state and they have campus carry for constitutional carry, that one's on my list too. But I'm not going to sit in a classroom, my friend. I'm not gonna let my kids. If you think I am, you're nuts. I'm not gonna let my kids sit in a classroom where nobody can defend himself. Just not gonna happen.
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Grant Stinchfield
They're absolutely sitting ducks. And that's the reality of it. If you had somebody in that classroom that was carrying, lives would have been saved. I wanna play for you, the media, you and I have talked about this before as well. John Miller, I go back, he used to be a great reporter. When I lived in New York, like as a young man, this guy was like interviewing Osama bin Laden and all. Well, he has turned into the worst leftist reporter going, he knows nothing about guns, even though he's worked for police Departments across the country. I want you to listen to his comment about the shooter's firearm at Brown cut 12. One of those firearms, we are told, was equipped with a laser sight device. This has significance because, number one, that's a fairly sophisticated device for a handgun where when you aim it, a red dot goes where you want to target. And if you fire at that point.
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AWR Hawkins
The bullet goes where the dot is.
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It's the kind of things used mostly.
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Grant Stinchfield
By professionals, tactical people, military people. Awr. Now I have a little Smith and Wesson bodyguard that's, that's about this big. I push a button, it's got a red light on it. And this guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Take it away.
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AWR Hawkins
No, I was wondering, you say his name's John. Does John own some fully semi automatic guns or some fully automatic semi automatic guns that have big clips that hold hundreds of rounds? Does he have those kind of guns too? I mean, these people are ridiculous. And yeah, to your point. And you remember laser pointers were a craze. What Was it in 2014, 2015? Laser pointers were, were the deal. That's what everyone wanted. And it is because what you just said on a small gun, where you don't have the length of barrel, you don't really have what I would call the leverage that you might have on a larger gun. You can get on target quicker if you have that laser on it. And if you're in bed and someone storms your bedroom, you want to get on target as quick as you can. So no, this is not something used only by professionals. It's not something that only the seals use. This is a very popular device to help law abiding citizens get on target. But what he misses is this. You don't just pop that thing on and then wherever the dot is, your bullet goes. Doesn't work like that. You have to zero that site the Same way you0 a scope and you have to line that site up so that it's actually going where the bullet goes. That's how it works. And this guy doesn't know. He doesn't know a laser sight from a bottle of champagne. I can tell when he talks.
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Grant Stinchfield
I was thinking, you know what, I'm just going to say it. An ass from a hole in the wall. But either way. I don't know if I'm supposed to say it on tv, but he's bad news. Awr. Hawkins, you are not my friend. We love the work you do at Breitbart and that organization. Thank you. For coming on tonight.
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AWR Hawkins
Thank you buddy. It's always great to be with you.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well it's good to see you. Unfortunately I'm always talking to AWR under these circumstances. Now to the other issue here. You got the Brown case right Where I heard from some people that usually get it right that the shooter yelled Alu Akbar. I can't find that anywhere in the mainstream media. I can't get that confirmed. I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me. I heard that it was Judeo studies class. Wouldn't surprise me. And you know Australia where this shooting occurred they were attacking specifically Jews is who they were going after on this beach that were celebrating Hanukkah is a result of the embrace of Islam in Australia. This is a witness to what happened there in Australia there was two shooters, one on the bridge, one under the.
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Bridge and just start to shoot for 20 minutes they shoot, shoot, change, change magazine and just shoot.
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Grant Stinchfield
Simple as that.
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20 minutes with four policemen there.
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Grant Stinchfield
Nobody give fire back not they are froze. That would so awful scenario to be in. And of course nobody has firearms. Another gun free zone by the way so the criminals have the upper hand. Listen to this rabbi talk about his friend that was killed.
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Dr. John Lott
We have to go and say radical.
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Grant Stinchfield
Islam is Nazism, nothing less.
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Dr. John Lott
We have to be openly ready to speak about it.
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Grant Stinchfield
Unfortunately many political leaders say no no.
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Dr. John Lott
No no no no let's not go.
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Grant Stinchfield
There because they get their vote and.
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Dr. John Lott
Political power is important to a lot of politicians.
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Grant Stinchfield
But you see what happened in Bandai after recognizing hey, you know that's how it goes. Listen to me and listen to me closely. This is the problem with liberals. They do everything off of emotion. They want to believe that an Islamic terrorist can turn the life around and be good. They want to believe that everybody is inherently an angel. They're not evil exists in the world. My job is to make sure we stop evil from happening or figure out ways that you can arm yourself to protect yourself from evil from happening. And yet these leftists don't want to believe the jihadists when they tell you something like this. This is by the way an Australian quote scholar. I never heard a scholar talk like this.
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We can't take away from the fact first and foremost that jihad is definitely part of El Din and as Muslims we should never ever shy away from this. And yes there may be types of jihad but of the peak of this jihad is that which the messenger Muhammad.
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Dr. John Lott
Sallallahu Alaihi wasallam spoke about.
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And I'll read the hadith soon and that is fighting in the path of.
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Dr. John Lott
Allah.
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Grant Stinchfield
Basically saying the Mujahideen, that the freedom fighters, that the terrorists have a better view in God's eyes than the everyday person. This is nuts. Obviously, I want to bring in now the director of Jihad Watch, Robert Spencer is back with us. Robert, good to see you, Grant.
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Robert Spencer
Always good to see you. It's not nuts, though. That's the Quran. The Quran, the holy book of Islam that they believe in in the United States as much as they believe in in Australia and in Saudi Arabia and in Iran and everywhere else. It's the same Quran. And they. It says in there that the Allah prefers those who go and risk their lives and fight in the cause of Allah, wage jihad for Allah over those who sit at home. And so when this guy did this, he thought he was being righteous when he was murdering Jews, because that's what the Quran teaches.
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Grant Stinchfield
Am I right in saying not all people that practice the religion of Islam think. Think like this? I mean, heck, you had the hero guy who tackled the. The gunman. He appears to have been Muslim himself. How do you weigh that when you weigh immigration policy? Because it looks like Australia was. It was open doors.
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Robert Spencer
It's like this, Grant. There are certainly many Muslims who do not do these things, just like there are many Christians who do not love their enemies and turn the other cheek. But those. These things are in the Christian book and kill them wherever you find them is in the Muslim book. And so we have to recognize that as a society. And if we're going to have large numbers of Muslims coming into the society, we got to ask them what they think about these passages, to renounce these passages and to make it a deportable offense if they start to act in any way that indicates that that renunciation was not sincere. That's just one step. But even just admitting it would be a tremendous thing. Right now, every government in the world is pretending, except the Muslim governments that favor this sort of thing, every government in the west is pretending that Islam is peaceful and benign and doesn't have any teachings like this. And the more we pretend that, the more people are going to die.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, just in Los Angeles, the FBI uncovered a terror plot. They say there were a number of bombs that were being made to carry out an attack in Los Angeles on New Year's Eve of all night. So this is here in America. Let me play a clip from you. This is the airport, I believe, in Sydney, Australia, that has been infiltrated, taken over. Roll cut 28.
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Allah.
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Grant Stinchfield
Free.
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Dr. John Lott
Free Palestine.
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Grant Stinchfield
Free. Free. So Robert, that's the airport in Sydney. This same scenario plays out in the United States. What's our takeaway from what happened in Australia? What should we take away here in the United States?
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Robert Spencer
Well, what does Allahu Akbar mean? Allahu Akbar means, you know, all the media says it means God is great. And people think, oh, God is great, big deal. Okay, Allahu Akbar does not mean God is great. It means Allah is greater. Greater than your God. It is a declaration of the supremacy and superiority of Islam. When you bring over people who are screaming Allahu Akbar, then you are bringing over people who think that their religion is superior to yours. Now you might think, well, everybody thinks their religion is superior to everybody else's. That's no big deal. The problem comes in with the fact that the Quran says you have to punish the people whose religion is inferior because they're rebelling against Allah. You have to be the executor of his wrath. This is all in the Quran. And so when you bring in people who are shouting Allahu Akbar like those guys, you are inviting violence against the native population.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, my advice would be listen to guys like you, Robert. You studied this most of your adult life and listen to these Muslim scholars, the imams that basically are telling you what they're going to do. And for some reason the left wants to ignore it all. Robert Spencer with Jihad Watch, thank you as always for coming on tonight.
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Robert Spencer
Always a pleasure, Grant, thank you.
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Grant Stinchfield
Yeah, pleasure is mine. All right, now to the truth about gun control. It doesn't work, folks. The criminals do not obey the law. That's why they call them criminals. This is Brown University's gun policy. AWR talked about it briefly. Possession, use or storage of weapons or firearms is strictly prohibited on all university property and university sponsored events. Well, I don't think the shooter listened. Didn't obey that law, did he? Two people are dead now, nine injured. CNN today wrote a giant article about all the mass shootings. 75 school shootings this year alone. And then they said 391 mass shootings in America this year alone. But that can't be right. Those numbers sound too outrageously large. Turns out they're not right. And I want to bring in now to talk about all of this, President of the Crime Prevention Research center, our buddy Dr. John Lott is here. John, welcome back.
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Dr. John Lott
It's good to talk to you. Thanks for having me on.
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Grant Stinchfield
All right, John, after Brown University they said the numbers now, 75 school shootings this year, which I've been saying I don't hear about all these public school shootings where how do they get the number 75?
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Dr. John Lott
Well, and also the other number in terms of mass shootings, you know, what they're doing is they're including, let's say a gun that's accidentally fired near the school. They're including gang fights that are near schools. They include gang fights that may be at 2am in the morning in a parking lot, or if somebody pulls into the parking lot at 2am in the morning and uses a gun to commit suicide. Those are all school shootings. If you define it as a mass public shooting where four more people have been killed, not involving something like a gang fight over drug turf. Since 2000, there have been nine mass public school shootings in the United States. You compare it to other countries like Germany, for example. Germany has had three. But the problem is that the United States has 340 million people. Germany has about 83 million people. So we're more than four times their population. So if you adjust so that they're in the same per capita terms, that would be the equivalent of us having 12. Or Finland's had two mass public school shootings over that period of time. Finland has a population of five and a half million people. That's like one 60th our population. That would be the equivalent of us having 120 rather than 9 mass public school shootings or Norway or other countries. You know, for some reason the news reports wouldn't go and compare the number of murders with the number in California with the number of murders in Rhode Island. They'd adjust for populations in those places. And as far as the 300 number that you gave there, what people have to understand is that the vast majority, about 80% of those basically involve drug gangs fighting against each other over drug turf. It's the reason why they don't get a lot of attention. If I have shootings that occur over the weekend in Chicago, the media doesn't cover those in the same way as somebody going into a school or a movie theater or a mall or a restaurant, just with the idea of joining and killing innocent law abiding people that's there, you know. So the media itself treats those types of cases very differently. And there's a reason why places like the FBI have a different measure for things like active shooting cases. If you look at all the active shooting cases that the FBI claims that has occurred over the 11 years from 2014 through 2024, they're talking about a total over all those 11 years of about 302. So and that's any shot that's fired from one person being shot at and missed all the way up to a mass public shooting, not involving something like a gang fight over drug turf or a robbery.
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Grant Stinchfield
All right, John, let me ask you this because I think it's stunning. The number is nine since the year 2000 about public school shootings. That's amazing. And you think of all the hundreds, thousands of schools across the country that open up every day, which is why I say the chance of a school shooting happening in your kids school is slim to none. The chance of another school shooting happening again is 100%, which is why every school needs to be prepared. But the chances of it happening is pretty darn slim. It's probably less than dying in a plane crash. John, would it be?
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Dr. John Lott
Look, there are 100,000 public schools in the United States. There are a lot more private schools. And you know, so you're right, the odds of it happening in any particular year, in any particular school is essentially zero. That still doesn't mean you can't do simple things to try to take care of it. You know, the big issue, for example, is something that you raised in AWR talked about earlier and that is allowing people to be able to go and defend themselves. Anybody who reads the diaries and manifestos for these mass murderers know time after time after time they explain why they pick the targets that they do. The media refuses, absolutely refuses to cover those parts of their diaries and manifestos. The Minneapolis Catholic school shooter that we just had, that person explained in detail why he picked the target that he did, the media mentioned. Well, he talked about other school shooters. Well, that's true. But the reason why he talked about him, he talked about them in terms of what he learned from them. And what he learned from them was to go to a gun free zone where his victims couldn't defend himself. But the media, it just drives me nuts. But it's one of the big biases that affects this entire debate. The media just refuses to go and cover that. And you know, at some point, you know, these guys, they overwhelmingly want to commit suicide, but they want to get media attention. And they know the more people they kill, the more media attention they're going to be able to get. And they know if they go to a place where their victims can't defend themselves, they're going to be able to get more people killed and more media attention.
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Grant Stinchfield
Of course. Well, Dr. John Lott, as always, I could do a whole hour with you because we didn't even talk about Australia and defensive gun use and how that plays into everything. So we'll get you back to talk about those kinds things of things as well. But great work at the Crime Prevention Research center, sir. Thank you for coming on. We always appreciate it.
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Dr. John Lott
Thank you very much.
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Grant Stinchfield
Welcome back everyone. Bill and Hillary Clinton are about to face the music. You know, months ago they were subpoenaed to testify about the Epstein case. They have failed to show up to do that testimony. So James Colmer over at House Oversight Committee sent them a letter and it reads if the Clintons fail to appear for their depositions next week or schedule a date for early January, the Oversight committee will begin contempt of Congress proceedings to hold them accountable. Oh, will they? I would hold my breath on that, but we shall see how that all plays out. Now to Kamala Harris, the other criminal that committed crimes against America with Joe Biden and the Clintons and the Obamas and all of that nonsense, Kamala Harris now says she's really eyeing 2028 a run for the presidency. Now, this would be the best news ever, I think, for Republicans. This is Kamala Harris at the DNC talking about this. Both parties have failed to hold the public's trust.
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Grant Stinchfield
Government should actually get out of the way so the people can meet the needs of themselves. And fundamentally, that's the difference between us and them right there. She wants government involved in everything. Now, I will say this. She's talking about parties. I don't have a lot of trust in the Republican Party and I don't have any trust in the Democrat Party, but I have a ton of trust in President Trump and I have a ton of trust in other individual candidates that I really respect and like. The party, though, it means something to me. I would never vote for a Democrat. This idea of people over party to me is ridiculous. You can't do that anymore. It's gotta be party. And even if it's the worst Republican ever, they're better than the, than the best Democrat ever. You could take that to the bank. But what does this mean? Does Kamala Harris even have a chance? Is this good for us if we have J.D. vance or Marco Rubio running? I want to bring in now the director of Big Data Poll and host of Inside the Numbers. Rich Barris is back with us. Buddy, it's good to see you.
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Rich Barris
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me, as always.
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Grant Stinchfield
All right, so Kamala Harris, I guess first, does she have a chance? Is this good news for Republicans?
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Rich Barris
Look, this is the situation with the Democratic Party. We actually just pulled this race. It is on Big Data poll right now. The last, the last poll. If you look at the cross tabs, you'll see the nominations in there. On The Republican side, J.D. vance is running away with it right now, at least for now. It's very early. And Kamala Harris actually is leading Gavin Newsom by about 11 points. And the reason I think a couple of things going on. She's the most well known right out of the group. She was their former nominee, I think it's, it says a lot about Gavin Newsom to be trailing her because she did, you know, push out a duly renominated president and stabbed him in the back and then went on to lose in spectacular fashion. Right. So it's a weak field on the Democratic side, at least for right now. And the, the reason is simple. She's the only one with non white support. And a Democratic primary, especially when you get to the south, which they front loaded, is overall 45% nonwhite. But when you get to the south, you're not going to be able to win a Democratic primary on white liberals. You can't do it. So she's the only one at the moment with any significant nonwhite support. So that's why she's leading. You know, when you look in the numbers, that's the story.
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Grant Stinchfield
Does Gavin Newsom get any black support?
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Rich Barris
He doesn't get any significant black support. I mean, look, you know, he's got, this is the name of the game. It's statistics. He, he gets about 10%. It's 9.6 to be, to be exact. But she's Rolf stomping him with, with Hispanics and, and black voters.
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Grant Stinchfield
Look, conservatives are not high on the LGBTQ agenda and trans mania. I think that's pretty clear. I think anecdotally from speaking to a lot of black folks, they don't like that nonsense either. And, and Gavin Newsom's right there in the front of it. I think that's one of his biggest hurdles with the black community. Community.
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Rich Barris
I, yeah, I completely agree. He's a coastal liberal, very smug, although very well put together. A coastal white liberal, kind of beta guy. And that kind of a candidate, whether they're Democrat or Republican, it has never really flown well with the American people. He's almost like our version of Michael Dukakis. Right. And they had to do with, they just did not have a bench that year. Michael Dukakis got the nomination. I think very likely what we're going to see is somebody's going to rise from nothing when we get closer to this thing. Kamala Harris is not a good candidate. And right now she's leading because of name recognition and because they're effectively rudderless. Gavin Newsom tried to be, you know, the captain of the ship and he led the redistricting war. It's probably going to end up Republican plus three at the end of this redistricting war. So he actually led them into a worst spot. Had they done nothing after taxes.
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Rich Barris
So I, I just don't know what his argument's going to be. I, I don't see one at all.
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Grant Stinchfield
Real quick, if you can, because everyone is talking about the midterms. I've got a lot of friends that are very concerned for Republicans and I want people to be concerned. I don't want you to think we're running away with anything, but I don't think we're in as bad a spot as everybody's telling me that we are. Where do you see it as far as the midterms go, us versus them?
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Rich Barris
When we leaned voters, we had Democrats up on the generic ballot by about four. You know, you don't black pill guys. But there is a lot of work that needs to be done between now and then. It really just comes down to Republicans are less. They're more complacent. I think that's the best way to put it. They're more complacent. And they do have to come to grips with the fact that they have a bigger coalition now that will serve them well in presidential races.
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Grant Stinchfield
And.
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Rich Barris
But in midterms and in special elections, it's going to take a lot more to get Republicans off their butts to go vote. They have a lower propensity coalition now. It doesn't have to be that way, which is something I've been arguing for a while. The Truman administration, right. I mean, he thought he was going to. Everyone thought he was going down to Dewey. He was in a similar position. But he rallied the troops and he got it done. When the Roosevelt coalition was put together, it was the same kind of thing. Lower, lower propensity working class voters. But they decided they were not going to accept that and they reacted and they adjusted and they made sure that their voters got out and ruled for 30 years.
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Grant Stinchfield
All right, here's the thing. I want to win in the midterms. If we have an apathy problem, then I guess I'm going to have to ramp it up. I can't be saying here, oh, I'm not too concerned. I got to ramp up the concern and I'll take it down by four. That makes me concerned. I'm going to wrap it up. Rich Barris, thank you, my man. I always appreciate you coming on anytime.
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Rich Barris
All the best. And Merry Christmas.
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Grant Stinchfield
Absolutely. Merry Christmas to you, too, as well. All right, listen, is AI to blame for murder, the rise of artificial intelligence, and the dangers that the suspects say come with artificial intelligence? Are we throwing out individual responsibility? Let's talk about that next.
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Of us at Ravi Foreign. Welcome back everyone. An 83 year old Connecticut woman is now dead, murdered by her 56 year old son Stein. Eric Solberg. Apparently the estate is claiming that Eric Solberg had delusions because chatgpt pushed his delusions in this way and basically told him to murder his mom and ultimately commit suicide. He in this open AI intensified her son's delusions, they claim in the lawsuit against OpenAI that this was a defective product that validated delusions. It was telling him to trust no one. Well, OpenAI was telling them exactly what I would have been telling them. Don't trust anybody because you can't. I believe in personal responsibility. Now, does OpenAI have some culpability in this? I actually don't believe it has any. I want to bring in now the founding member of the Biles Wilson law firm litigation attorney Dunham. Biles is with us. Dunham, welcome to the program.
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Dunham Biles
Thank you for having me. I appreciate the opportunity.
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Grant Stinchfield
Absolutely. Does this estate of this woman have a case here?
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Dunham Biles
It appears they do. Now, one has to always be careful. Lawyers are advocates and they, and they tell stories. And the whole point of the complaint is to tell that story. So they're telling a one sided version of it meant to, to help their client. So all we know right now is what they allege. We don't know what the defendants have said.
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Grant Stinchfield
This is the equivalent of a family wanting to sue Smith and Wesson because they used a firearm and a Smith and Wesson's fault. I mean, where's the individual responsibility? This guy sounds like it was a total nutcase.
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Dunham Biles
Oh, one on the Smith and Wesson. You and I absolutely agree that's ridiculous. And we both believe in personal responsibility for sure. But here the issue is going to be, yes, this man appears by all evidence to have very serious problems. And inevitably those serious problems are largely to blame for what happened. The issue legally is going to be whether AI substantially contributed to it. And whether you think there's a great case here, it should disturb us all what these allegations are suggesting about what AI did in this particular case. It reminds me of a great cult leader sort of behavior in the way that this occurred.
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Grant Stinchfield
So it's interesting, Dunham, because when I've heard people that are involved with creating this AI, one of the problems is that it almost feeds users what they want to hear. And so it told him that the names on the soda cans were actually part of his adversity adversary circle talked about police and coworkers were surveilling him. His mother was surveilling him. Now, at some point, do you not have the ability of yourself, you're 56 years old, you're a grown man, to say, hey, this is a computer telling me this? I don't know. I mean, if we start suing AI for every bad thing somebody does, why aren't we suing Google? When someone learns how to make a bomb by googling it?
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Dr. John Lott
Sure.
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Dunham Biles
Look, I don't disagree with what you just said for sure, but the reality is that I think it's different when a human being tells you something, because I think as you started out saying, you really shouldn't go around trusting too many people for certainty. But I think as a, as a society, we tend to believe in the genius of AI and we trust computers and they're unbiased, which they're not, but we put too much faith in them.
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Grant Stinchfield
All right, so this is very interesting because this is another thing that happens on social media. You have these gangs out there that are basically talking young kids into committing suicides or crimes. And these are real people. These are not computers. What responsibility does do those people have? I mean, the ultimate conservative in me is saying, you know what? You have a responsibility to yourself first and foremost. Just because someone tells me to jump off a bridge is what my mom always said. Don't jump off the bridge.
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Dunham Biles
Right, yes. No, I agree. And on the situations you bring up, you're often going to see aiding and abetting or conspiracy charges against the individuals, causing others to commit crimes, encouraging them to do so. In this case, what concerns me is that you also have the person that seems to have known they had a problem, they asked if they were sane, in essence, to the computer, and it purports to give a psychological exam to him and says that no, you're just fine. In fact, you reason morally at the 99th percentile of folks. So we're taking somebody who has some cognitive ability to understand perhaps he's not right. And the AI is telling him not only is he right, he's better than the rest of us. And it talks very specifically about how he might be better and that he's been chosen to do these things, so forth. And that to me sounds a lot like what a cult leader does when, when they, when they convince people to do crazy things.
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Grant Stinchfield
You know, I'm with you in the fact that these things take on a personality. I use chat GPT all the time. I've used it for work.
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Dr. John Lott
It.
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Grant Stinchfield
It helps me with writing write ups for my podcast. It now knows who I am. I mean, it's learned what Stitchfield is all about. The unapologetic, bold version of Stitchfield. And it's freaky. And when you even say, hey, it sounds like a cult leader, they really take on a human Persona. It'll be interesting to see how these cases play out. I just hope this doesn't happen like something like guns. You want to take away all AI because a few bad things happen by individuals who couldn't handle it. Don, I'm gonna give you the last word.
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Dunham Biles
I completely agree. I hope that AI is amazing. It seems to be able to do amazing things for us as a society, as individuals, perhaps even the world and businesses. It's an amazing invention and has great promise. But we also have to understand, as with anything, the risks involved and do something. And I hope the businesses themselves find ways to do better.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, I think that may be the key is businesses, family members, certainly for kids, parents. Be involved in what your kid is doing. Don't rely on ChatGPT to do the right thing. Be involved in those around you your lives. Dunham Biles, thank you. I appreciate you coming on today. Interesting conversation.
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Dunham Biles
Thank you. Have a great evening.
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Grant Stinchfield
Absolutely. You too. All right, folks, what is your heart trying to tell you? Is this about romance or health? We'll see.
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Grant Stinchfield
Here's a question for you. What is your heart telling you?
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Dr. John Lott
I just finished my first round of 88 days. I had an appointment with my cardiologist yesterday morning and I went in and weighed in with him on their scale with clothes on. He was extremely happy because he recorded I had lost 30 pounds. I've got six inches out of my belt and I'm ready to punch a new hole in that belt. My cardiologist was extremely impressed with what I had done. He said, whatever you do, keep on doing it.
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John Jubilee
Those are fantastic numbers. Super proud of you, brother.
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Robert Spencer
Man.
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Grant Stinchfield
I am, too. Unbelievable numbers. This is the power of Energized Health. I want to bring in now the founder of Energized Health, our good friend John Jubilee. Merry Christmas. Great to see you, John.
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John Jubilee
Great to see you, Grant.
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Grant Stinchfield
All right, so this guy's heart is getting healthy. You know, we always think of energized health. We want to lose the body fat. But there are so many other benefits to this, John.
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John Jubilee
Well, there really is, Grant, and you know, just some shocking numbers. There's over a million. A million Americans have a heart attack every year, and none of them ever goes to bed at night and says, hey, tomorrow's the day. I'm going to have a heart attack tomorrow. It's always a surprise, Grant. It's like a car accident. Nobody expects a car accident. Nobody expects a heart attack. And yet everyone could do something really simple, which is to simply change the viscosity, the thickness of your blood. So do you know that 99% of people that have a heart attack, their blood is thick like ketchup? So think about your car, Grant. You know, oil. You know, gas comes from oil, right? But gas has a super thin, healthy viscosity that you can put the gas in your tank, but if you put the oil in your tank, your engine would be jacked up. And that's what happens when we put thick blood as our blood gets dehydrated. It's like putting oil in your car engine. You're going to have a heart attack, a stroke, or a brain aneurysm.
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Grant Stinchfield
You know, an interesting story, and I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but I met with RFK Jr. In a very small group last week at the White House, and he said he had a full body MRI. And what it revealed was he had 2 inches of visceral fat around many of his organs, including his heart. And you know, what great shape the guy looks. And he was shocked that he had this visceral fat. So the doctor's now trying to. But this is what Energized Health could do. Could help somebody like that. You could look in great shape, but you have this visceral fat inside you, man.
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John Jubilee
It could kill you 100%. So, you know, there's many people. There's many people that look like rfk, right? They look good on the outside, but that visceral fat is the hidden killer. You know, that's like the secret agent fat that gets over the organ suffocates an organ and can cause liver failure, kidney failure, or yes, it can absolutely cause a heart attack. And that's why, you know, you want to get yourself healthy at the cellular level, not just look good in a picture. You know, a lot of good looking people look good in their caskets, but you want to look healthy on an mri. I love it that he got one of those. He got a picture of the inside.
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Grant Stinchfield
Yeah, a picture of the insides. All right, let me tell people how they can get with Energized health and get on this protocol that really changed my life. I lost 15 pounds in two weeks, much of it visceral fat because my outside body didn't change all that much. But I lost 15 pounds that was fat on the inside. All right, so if you're feeling rundown, stressed out, or like your heart just isn't what it used to be, this is your moment. Don't wait for a crisis. Visit energized health.com. start today. Watch the masterclass energized health.com then book yourself a call. Okay? Not salespeople there. They'll talk to you about how they can improve your life. I promise you, you will not regret it. Go watch that master class and book a call. All right, up next, President Trump today has some very choice words for Colorado's leftist government.
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Robert Spencer
Next.
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Grant Stinchfield
Welcome back, everyone. You know the one thing you got love about President Trump, he's never at a loss for words, especially about his political enemies. Jared Polis is one of them. He's the governor of Colorado. Take a listen. The governor of Colorado is a weak and pathetic man who was run by trend to criminals from Venezuela, took over sections of Colorado and he was afraid to do anything. But he puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught people cheating. All right, listen, the story about Tina Peters, she was an election official. They threw her in jail, state charges so President Trump can't pardon her. They're trying to get her into federal custody so somehow they can make her confinement a little bit better. Right now I'm told she's in awful conditions. In fact, I think tomorrow we ought to cover more on Tina Peters plight. We've talked about about this story on this program before. Let's do it again. That's going to do it for us tonight. Stitchfield's army rolls. We will see you tomorrow night on Stitchfield. Thanks for watching everybody. See you.
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