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Benny Harmony
Good evening at Stitchfield army my name is Benny Harmony. And tonight I'm filling in for Grant Stage Stinchfield as we continue here on Real America's Voice to follow this Capitol shooting, which has left two National Guardsmen in critical condition. Now, officials are calling this a targeted attack, and we must know that. Now, little is known of the suspect as of now, but intel initial reports actually indicate that he could be an Afghan national. Now, police are saying he was also shot and being treated at the hospital. Here's FBI Director Kash Patel.
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Grant Stinchfield
And make no mistake, they will be brought to justice. Since this is an assault on a federal law enforcement officer, this will be treated at the federal level as an assault on a federal law enforcement officer. The FBI will lead out on that mission with our interagency partners to include the Department of Homeland Security, Secret Service, atf, dea, and we're thankful for the mayor's assistance in this matter. The Metropolitan Police Department and their skills in investigating homicides and gun shootings in.
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Benny Harmony
This city is exceptional. Now, this is a developing story, which we will keep you up to date on all the information as it comes in. But now I want to bring in live from Mar A Lago, our host of Stenchfield tonight, Grant Stinchfield.
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Grant Stinchfield
Good evening, Betty. Thank you. And I want to give you a big thanks for filling in for me tonight, and I really appreciate that. So I am at Mar a Lago. I got to spend some time with the president last night, and I've been talking to some of the folks around him that are very close to President Trump today. And here's what I love when something like this happens, President Trump does not retreat. He moves forward. So what we're learning right now is that about 500 more National Guard troops will be called in to Washington, D.C. this is a double down scenario. This is basically President Trump telling whoever's behind this attack. And we have this one suspect that is in custody, as you mentioned, like possibly an Afghan national. I've not actually gotten that confirmed on my end of things. But this is President Trump saying, you are not going to dictate how we keep America safe, how we make America safe again. So, yeah, he's bringing in 500 more National Guard troops to Washington, D.C. and many, I think this point needs to be made. These National Guard troops, you know how many arrests they've made in Washington, D.C. 0. The number is zero. They are there for perception. They are there to make people feel that they are safe. And then they are there to put the criminals on notice that that criminality is not going to be tolerated. It's in cities like Washington, D.C. and other cities around the country where President Trump is carrying out this plan. So if anybody thinks that they're going to make President Trump back off of this, they're sadly mistaken. And then I see this reporter on MSNBC who literally says, oh, the shooter may have mistaken them for ICE agents somehow defending the shooter, that it's okay to shoot ICE agents. All of it's disgusting. You'll see this left wing media that'll come out and try to tell you that, oh, this is President Trump's fault. He never should have brought the National Guard in. In fact, it's just the opposite. It don't excuse the behavior of criminals. And that's what the left wing media is going to try to do right now, excuse the behavior of criminals and say that President Trump incited this by bringing the National Guard in. Remember who President Trump is doing this for by bringing the National Guard troops into cities like Washington, D.C. he's doing it for the people. The people oftentimes will say it bluntly, live in the hood, live in bad areas of these cities. It's doing it for them because they're fed up. The mothers, the grandmothers, the grandfathers that are tired of the criminality. And so if anybody thinks that President Trump is backing off of this, I can tell you from the people that I've talked to here in Mar a Lago, that's not a chance. In fact, I think what you're going to see is more of this unfold, more National Guard troops coming in at places like Washington, D.C. in other cities, if not to just make a statement, this stuff will not be tolerated. But I can tell you this, Benny, as I throw it back to you, President Trump is saddened by the idea that you have two National Guard troops in critical condition. And I'm told they're in really bad condition. Critical condition is a term the media uses to tell you bad condition. I'm telling you, it's even worse than that. What we need right now are prayers for these two West Virginia National Guardsmen who were taken out by a deranged animal, as President Trump called them. So if we can Finishfield's army, pray for these National Guard members and pray for President Trump, pray for this nation as he tries to make America great again. And of course, can he make America safe again?
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Benny Harmony
Absolutely. And Grant, you know, we were on the ground in D.C. constantly. I was just at that location a few days ago. And these National Guard, they're happy to be there. They want to serve at the pleasure of the president, they want to be on the ground defending the homeland and the fact that their own citizens came after them or somebody that was in their country, a place they should be safe. It's very scary, and it's worrisome as to where this country's going.
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Grant Stinchfield
Yeah. You know, I point back to the video that these seditious Democrats put out there about disobey President Trump's orders. All of this inspires this behavior on those on the left, on those that hate President Trump, that have punct derangement syndrome, who engage in this kind of violence. So in many respects, I would put some of the blame on the left that has this violent rhetoric that tries to encourage this kind of stuff. And that's what we saw from the seditious members of Congress and senators that were engaging in that behavior that put that video out. And to your point, Fannie, and I think it's very important those National Guard troops are proud to serve and keep these cities safe. And I can tell you, being here at Mar a Lago and I've spent a lot of time here, now that he's president again, the security is like you've never seen before. But I talk to these Secret Service agents, I talk to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputies that are here. They are so proud and honored to be on duty here. I have gotten winks and nods about what it was like to serve as a prior commander in chief, which was Joe Biden, who was phony, in my opinion. The whole situation is they are so honored to keep this man and his family safe at the White House of the south, just as I am sure that all of those National Guard troops are so proud to keep American safe in American cities, no matter what Democrats want to tell you, this is what they signed up. They signed up to defend the homeland. That's exactly what they're doing. And I'll tell you what, Manny, I'm great.
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Benny Harmony
Well, Grant, thank you so much. And we will, you know, keep us updated as you hear things on the ground in Mar a Lago. We'll be listening. So thank you so much. And enjoy that. Enjoy that Florida weather.
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Grant Stinchfield
Thank you. And thank you so much for helping me out tonight filling in on the show. I appreciate you.
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Benny Harmony
Of course. Now I would like to turn the conversation to the FBI side of things, what is known and where this investigation goes from here. And that's the question a lot of people are asking. So joining us now to discuss this is former FBI Special Agent and Navy SEAL retired Jonathan Gilliam. Good evening.
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Grant Stinchfield
Good to be with you.
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Benny Harmony
So, Jonathan, tell us, with your background as an agent, when you look at this from a security standpoint, what are those first things that come to your mind that they're calling this an ambush? Give us your thoughts.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, first of all, they ha. You know, they have to identify this individual, which I'm, I'm sure they have identified him by now. And as we've seen with all these other investigations that include international terrorists such as ISIS or Al Qaeda, they will go through all their social media, they'll go through all their computers and their phones, their fingerprints, even their retina scans to see if they pop on any other investigations, and they'll start following those things out to quickly identify any other groups that this individual may be connected to. Because what you, you want to rule out very quickly, if possible, is that is this individual working alone or are they associated with some other ideology or group? Now, as Grant was alluding to there a minute ago, once the investigations go towards international terrorism, if that's what it is, I'm seeing some reports on here. I haven't verified anything yet, but if it goes towards international terrorism, a lot of the times they just concentrate on the groups that these individuals are associated with, but they don't associate or they don't investigate any of the verbiage that may be spinning around this country inciting people. And that's what we've seen. Multiple attacks throughout the country, Colorado, Washington, D.C. with the murder of two Jewish individuals. We've seen all these different things occur because of rhetoric, yet rhetoric of the left, but yet it was directed and the action was taken by people who are, who identify with an international ideology. So what I would like to see and what I hope that they're doing is starting to connect the dots between the left and any of these other international groups or any of these people who, who tried to assassinate a president or killed Charlie Kirk. I mean, there are connections between the left and what we call the Red Green alliance, which would be the left, socialist and fundamental Islam. And they need to start looking at these things because that's very well where this could end up leading.
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Benny Harmony
And Jonathan, one of the biggest things is how close this shooting was to the White House. I mean, this is a place where we are at all the time. There's leaders in and out. Do you think that this could change the level of security that we're seeing around the Capitol? And do you think that it's valid that President Trump should bring more law enforcement in?
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Grant Stinchfield
There's really not much more law enforcement than you could bring in to Washington, D.C. i mean, every federal agency is there. The National Guard is there, Local law enforcement is there. State police are there. I think what needs to probably be modified is that they've been there long enough where complacency can set in. As things get safer, law enforcement can become more complacent. That needs to end. Same thing with the National Guard. I'm not saying they were, but I'm saying that that is something that could easily be tightened up. And then also, law enforcement is very bad about institutional inbreeding, where they do things the way that they do, because that's the way they've always been done. Law enforcement, National Guard, anybody involved in these operations needs to start thinking outside the box and looking at things like the bad guy so that they can start identifying avenues of approach, types of attacks that could happen, when they would happen, and how they can mitigate those types of attacks or the possibility of those attacks. Because just standing on the street and walking a beat opens you wide up to this type of attack. So I think that's what needs to be modified. It's not we need more law enforcement, but we need to be aware. New York City learned this. You know, they have two people in a car, they're both eating lunch with their heads down. One of them gets hit in the head with an ax. So that we need to change the way that they do this and really tighten up what, what they're watching and how they're working.
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Benny Harmony
And Jonathan, before we let you go, from your experience, what type of timeframe can we typically expect when it comes to an investigation like this? Can we expect some answers later tonight or in the next few days? What's that look like?
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Grant Stinchfield
It all comes down to, first of all, can they identify the individual? If he's identified, then that will go much faster. But I've seen investigations such as the Times Square bomb, where they went in and put a pipe bomb on the, the recruitment center at 3 o' clock in the morning in 2008. That's never been solved. And there's more cameras there than anywhere else in the world. But yet the, the other Times Square bomber, where a guy put a bomb in a truck and it didn't go off. They were able to get his keys and get. Because the vehicle didn't blow up, get some serial numbers, find out who had that vehicle, who they sold it to, and they caught the guy before he got on a plane to get out of the country within 24 hours. I believe was so it could go either way. But once they identify the individual and they see the footprint that he has on, on his computer or phones, then we're going to go very quickly, which I'm not going to get into this. But it is very intriguing how Thomas Crooks could do what he did and somehow they come to a dead end, were never able to find out anything about that guy. So typically where we would see this investigation go is that once they identify him that it's going to go very quickly.
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Benny Harmony
Okay, well, Jonathan, we will definitely keep an eye out on some of that data because we expect with the world of the Internet, hopefully we can find something in that metadata. So, Jonathan, thank you so much. And again, guys, we are monitoring this situation in Washington, D.C. where the officials are saying that these two National Guardsmen were attacked in a shooting. And now at this point we are still being told that they are in critics critical condition. Both victims are members of the West Virginia National Guard. Now they were in the nation's capital to support local and federal law enforcement as as part of the crime crackdown of the Trump administration. But the suspect is being also is being treated in a hospital for his injuries resulting from him being shot. And as we've said, little is known about his identity and authorities are calling this an attack. But the motive still remains very unclear. Here's the host of Just the News, no Noise, John Solomon this evening. Take a listen.
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Grant Stinchfield
What we understand is that as this, as the assailant was coming across 17th street, turning on the 8th street, he just opened fire on the guardsmen. Some were able to return fire. He's wounded. He's critically injured. The guardsmen are critically injured. But it does look to be a surprise unprovoked ambush style attack. They're literally, they're walking down the street and all of a sudden this gentleman comes around the corner and immediately opens fire. There's no provocation according to the law enforcement officials I've talked to, just pure hatred, just opening gunfire and trying to wound these American heroes in uniform that have been keeping our Capitol safe.
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Benny Harmony
Joining us now is former special assistant to President Trump and Army colonel retired. We have Derek Harvey. Good evening, Derek.
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Grant Stinchfield
Good to be here, Benny.
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Benny Harmony
So, Colonel, well, you just heard Grant there discussing at the beginning of the show, what is your take on the sit situation? First off, give us that broad overview from your expertise.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, I'm, you know, having time in Afghanistan and having monitored and evaluated, you know, all of the Afghans that were brought into the country during the Biden administration Many of them without proper vetting. One of the first things I'm wondering about is, you know, the reports seem to be true from my sources that this person is of Afghan descent and that there is one source that said that he yelled Allah Akbar during the shooting. Not immediately, but during the shooting. So that's of significant interest. So, you know, was he properly vetted? What were his associations? Who was he with here? What mosque, former mosque or unofficial mosque was he involved in? I'm not, I don't think we actually know what his actual residence is. But, you know, my old friend and colleague, you know, Kash Patel and his team will be on top of this and they're treating this as a potential terrorist attack. Now what has not been helpful at all is having the seditious six like Senator Slotkin and Senator Kelly, you know, saying things like, you know, national Guardsmen are going to start shooting Americans randomly, you know, on top of all the other rhetoric about, you know, the attacks on ICE and suggesting that they're conducting illegal activities and you need to stand up and calling them Nazis and SS and all this stuff that has led to attacks on courthouses, attacks on churches and abortion, anti abortion centers and the like. This promotion, incitement and rhetoric that leads to violence amongst a group of our population, whether they're immigrant or not, is a major problem and the Democrats just need to stop it. Going back to the BLM riots, the assassination attempts, it all goes back to a violent rhetoric. Seated with the Democrat leadership and what they've been saying. It's insightful.
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Benny Harmony
Yeah, absolutely. And so when we take a look at the identity of this suspect from your perspective, do you think by any means that they might be keeping his identity under wraps for a specific reason? As we kind of look at how some of these people, how it tracks.
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Grant Stinchfield
Absolutely. They do not want to provide information out there that may compromise the pursuit of information and associations and access to, as previous guests said, computers, phones, records, whatever they may be, identifying who he is, where he lived, whose associations were, if he attended a mosque, what overseas connectivity did he have? If it's terrorist related, if it's something else, if he's just not assimilated here. Well, and he's not here legally, he might not even be here legally, we don't know. So there's a lot to uncover here. But again, the overarching environment that is created by rhetoric, that is inciting violence and attacks now on our National Guardsmen, you know, is a major concern of mine.
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Benny Harmony
And before, one last question, before we let you go, how, how do you think when it comes to law enforcement and it comes to these people that are truly just trying to protect the homeland, just trying to protect the citizens, how, how do we ensure that this rhetoric, is there a way forward? Do you see a way to end the rhetoric that leads to this violence? I mean, we are seeing shootings after shootings. Take a look at Chicag this past weekend. There is an overflow of violence. Is there any way, do you see from your former experience in the administration when it comes to dealing with this, how do you suggest we move forward?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, there are some legal avenues, but we then run headlong into issues of free speech and things like that. But there is good evidence that there is organization and networking and financing behind the activities that led to violence in the BLM riots in 2020, the continued violence by Antifa, the organization and nonprofits and others that are coordinating, facilitating and enabling the attacks on ICE and the targeting of ICE and allowing them to be organized and arrive exactly where ICE is at. That indicates insider knowledge. So that type of activity is driven by political goals for sure, to destabilize and undermine the Trump administration, but also to change the nature of our society in many ways. And so that's going to take a concerted effort to go after this type of subversive activity. But there are tools in the box, but there has to be political will and the resources to go after it.
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Benny Harmony
Yeah. Well, Colonel, keep us posted if you hear any more and just we appreciate your time this evening to discuss this and your expertise. So thank you very much.
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Grant Stinchfield
Great to see you Benny.
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Here on Central tonight. CBS is currently reporting the identity of the shooter suspected of attacking two National Guardsmen in the Nationals nation's capital just a few hours ago. Now they are reporting that his name and he is a 29 year old Afghan national like many have speculated who entered the US in 2021. Now his name is Ramula Lanwa and I'm sure I butchered that but we will get some proper pronunciation here soon. And we also know at this point that there are the two victims are in critical condition and are members of the West Virginia National Guard. Now Vice President J.D. vance. Earlier today he called for prayers while addressing service members in Kentucky after he had heard of this set, attacked and so on. With me. Now we're chatting. 32 year old US Air Force combat veteran and founder of Gator Pack. We have Colonel Rob Maness. Good evening Rob.
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Grant Stinchfield
Hey, good evening. Thanks for having me on.
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Benny Harmony
So Rob, they are calling this an attack. We've talked about this a lot during the show. The victims are National Guardsmen from West Virginia. What do those Details mean to you?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, it has all the hallmarks of a targeted attack. And now that we know that he is a Islamist from Afghanistan, one of the over 70,000 unvetted that Joe Biden's administration led into this country, we have two things going on here. We have the Seditious Six operation, which is much greater than the video that the six senators led by retired US Navy Captain Mark Kelly did. We now have billboards going up around military bases that are asking soldiers to question why they're doing security for ICE and those kinds of things. So it's a massive operation that's happening in order to undermine what the civil authority. And the civil authority is represented by the President of the United States in this country and in the military, he's the commander in chief. That's why we have seditious sedition laws that cover civilian and military personnel. But this is added to it. They have put a target on the backs of National Guardsmen. All of the Democrat politicians have consistently done this. I've even seen recently a video of a retired Illinois National Guard general saying that the Guard being in these cities to protect folks is Nazi esque and those kinds of things. And they're questioning the legality of the President's orders, which are perfectly legal and lawful. And now you have a jihadi that pulls off an attack because they've probably been focused right on this target for quite a while. And now they see an opportunity and an opening because half of the country's leadership, not just citizens yelling on social media, but leadership, political leadership, is saying that they're retargets.
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Benny Harmony
Yeah, that rhetoric that we are hearing, just, just, you know, like, like people calling the National Guard Nazis. That's really contributing this violence. But, Colonel, as a veteran yourself, what was your reaction when you first heard about this story? Bring us inside your mind.
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Grant Stinchfield
Sadly, I'm not surprised, and I'm not surprised as a jihadist either, because we have been, those of us that have fought in this war and are still on active duty and have retired from the US Armed forces, former intelligence officers that have run intelligence and surveillance on Islamists around the world know that there are tens of thousands, tens of thousands of jihadists in this country and they are even getting into political offices and nobody in power is listening and taking the appropriate action. Things that need to happen. Deport all of these people. President Trump, you want to do massive deportations and get rid of every Islamist that's in this country. They are not compatible, even the naturalized ones, with the constitution of the United States Sharia law doesn't acknowledge natural rights and the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and the rights of women and children. It doesn't do it. They can't take an oath to the Constitution of the United States as is required for a naturalized citizen, and be honest about it, deport every single one of them. That's what's going through my mind. Let's get people that are working for you to do this job and if they refuse to do it, fire them and hire people that will get this type of job done. The other thing that needs to be done is all of the resistors that are still in the United States government have got to be cleaned out. This moment, Mr. President, this moment requires something much more massive than even your initial entry back into office with all these wonderful executive orders that people like Russ Vote have put together for you and you've signed in the hundreds more rapidly than anybody else. But this moment requires an even greater effort, something like the Manhattan Project that put the atomic weapons together in World War II. And it's got to be put together quickly and we've got to clean the United States government out so that we can get the job done for the American people. And first of all and foremost is our internal security. We are under attack. There is an attempted color revolution going on. We don't know who exactly is involved in it, but we have evidence. We have billboards going up around our military bases asking soldiers and sailors, airmen, Marines, guardians and Coast Guardsmen to question the orders of the President of the United states. We have U.S. senators and retired senior military officers putting videos out doing the same thing. And they're all funded by non governmental organizations that probably have tax dollars coming from to them by organizations like what USAID used to do and probably still does, only covertly. Now we've got to get to the bottom of it. You need people working for you that will do it and they need to get on it tonight before midnight. But first, deport all these Islamists, every single one of them.
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Benny Harmony
Colonel, I'm glad you brought up the national security aspect of this and the open borders, because as a member of the military, I really want to highlight our servicemen and women after this tragedy occurred. When you become a member of the force, you take an oath. And a lot of these Democrats are coming out saying, oh, these National Guard don't want to be there and they hate President Trump and they're just as mad as we are. But. But that's not the truth, is it?
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Grant Stinchfield
No, it's not the truth. I've talked to many of them. As a matter of fact, I have a nephew that's in another city. I'm not going to name the location right now that's deployed there and going to be there until the end of February. And he loves it. And I've talked to his parents, and they're very proud of him. And people that I've seen talk to guardsmen in D.C. and I've talked to guardsmen in D.C. very recently. They are very proud to be there. Down here in Mississippi, we put a large contingent into the District of Columbia. We were very proud to send them. And each and every one of them agreed with this order that it needed to be done, that it was lawful, and that's the right thing to do. And you're right, we take an oath to the Constitution of the United States, not a president. And there's nothing wrong with reminding service members of that. There's also nothing wrong with reminding them that you're not supposed to follow an unlawful order. We teach that to everybody. What's wrong and what's going on on the Democrat side, especially from their retired military officers like Mark Kelly of Arizona, is that they're not saying what orders explicitly are unlawful. They're saying things like, America's military is being pitted against the American citizen that puts a target on these National Guardsmen that were shot tonight and they're fighting for their lives in a hospital bed right there. They're saying things like, there's a lack of trust with America's government, implying that President Trump is generating this lack of trust and they're sowing seeds of doubt. And these billboards that ask soldiers that are in the Airborne at Fort Bragg, did you join the Airborne to provide security for ice, sowing seeds of doubt amongst the military? I'll remind us. You took an oath to the Constitution. You're supposed to follow lawful orders for enlisted men and women. You took an oath to follow the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed above you. You must do it and assume they're lawful. First, execute the orders. If they come out to be unlawful, I'm all for it. Like with the COVID vaccine mandate, unlawful order. Once that was found to be unlawful, you will find video of me encouraging people to acknowledge that that's an unlawful order, especially the officers that were supposed to be implementing it. And unfortunately, this crowd never said a word.
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Benny Harmony
Well, Colonel, we have about a minute left. Is there anything that you would like to say to all those active. Active members in our armed forces. Words of motivation, encouragement and just to let them know that you understand and you're here for them, what do you have to say?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, tomorrow all of America gives thanks for everything that we have. We still live in a great country, folks, regardless of all our problems and we are very proud of you. We support you 100%. Don't question the President of the United States. He's your Commander in Chief. He hasn't given one unlawful order that I've seen yet and I look at each and every one of them every time one comes out. Stay in the fight. Take care of yourselves and take care of your American citizens.
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Benny Harmony
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Benny Harmony
Welcome back to Stitchfield tonight. I am Benny Harmony filling in for Grant this evening. And we have some breaking news coming out of D.C. a shooting where two National Guardsmen were shot and critically injured in an ambush style attack. Now the identity of the suspect has been revealed as Ramula Lockinwa. He is an Afghan national who entered the US in 2021 and he used a handgun. We're getting reports that that is how he carried out this attack. Law enforcement sources have told CBS News. Now on. With me now to talk about this is a former police lieutenant and retired U.S. navy intel officer Stephen Rogers. Welcome to the program.
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Grant Stinchfield
Thank you very much.
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Benny Harmony
Absolutely. So, Stephen, what do you make of this reporting that it was an Afghan national that carried out this attack?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, it goes to show you that there are people in this country that simply are here for one purpose and one purpose only, to hurt our nation. And let's drill down to one of the major reasons why, at least I believe, believe, that we're facing threats from individuals who don't belong in this country, who came here illegally. And it all points in the direction of politicians who are demonizing our police, they're demonizing our military, they're demonizing the president of the United States of America. These politicians, all of this of what they're saying, they own a lot of what's going on today with regard to this violence. And they've got to understand that very bad people hear their words, but those bad people are also acting on their words. So we have to make that very clear, that yep, there are people in this country, they have no use for our Constitution, no use for our law. And when they hear these politicians with their nonsensical, violent rhetoric, it's almost a stamp of approval as to what they are planning to do.
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Benny Harmony
And Stephen, does this change the approach that law enforcement will take now? Because this was a foreign national. What does that process look like?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, I'll tell you what's needed to be changed. And the President of the United States is already doing that. Look, when I hear these people get on these mainstream media networks saying the people in Washington, they're upset. They don't want the National Guard there, other cities, they don't want the military. I like to know what planet they're living on, because I've been to Washington several times. I've been to New York City, I've been all over the place. And I've heard people say, we want our. We want to be protected. We don't mind having the military come here and protect us because the police can't protect us. And they're not blaming the cops, they're blaming the politicians, they're blaming the judges, they're blaming the courts who are letting these maniacs back out on the streets. So the president has already began that process in order to do what? To protect the people of this country. Look at, I'm a retired military commander, a retired detective bureau lieutenant commander of a police department, and for 40 years, you know what I've seen every imaginable program that this government created to prevent some of the things we're seeing today. It hasn't worked. But now what the president's doing, it's going to work.
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Benny Harmony
And so what about the Islam aspect that we're seeing in this now? If this is shown to be an Islamic attack, does that indicate to you that there are much more than just a lone shooter in this?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, that remains to be seen. I was very concerned when I was assigned to the National Joint Terrorism Task force in Washington, D.C. years ago that a lot of individuals crossing the border were crossing this border to create cells around the country. And it wasn't a matter of if they would attack, but it's a matter of when. So here we see someone who happens to be Islamic, who's created a situation here that's causing us to ask those questions. Is this wider and greater than what we've seen happen today? And that's where the investigation is going to be pointed at. Is there anyone else involved? They say there was not another shooter. Fine. But was there someone involved in planning? How did this individual get a gun? Was there anyone else who had knowledge that this individual was going to do this? All this will come out in investigation. Look, I have a tremendous hope that the FBI and the other law enforcement agencies will get to the bottom of this sooner or later, but we don't have those answers until they get the answers with regard to their investigation.
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Benny Harmony
And Lieutenant, President Trump, he's touted that this, this idea of bringing the National Guard and law enforcement to Washington, D.C. is to bring a calming presence, to make citizens know that they are safe and they don't need to worry about gang violence. Do you agree with this assessment and do you think that it's, it's done its job to this point until the tragedy today?
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, I've been to Washington several times. I'm down there several times a month. And I've seen the difference between the time I went there when the National Guard was not there, and now that the National Guard is there. And I'll tell you, I was curious about the citizens and I was wondering, I wonder what they're thinking about. They love the idea that the President has taken that action. And it's not only they love the idea in Washington, across the country, I'd like some of these politicians, before they open their mouths, is to do what I used to do, sit in a police car, go into some of these high crime areas, try to walk down the street with a child without the fear of getting shot. These individuals doing all this demonizing and criticizing, they're serving no purpose but to embold the bad guys. Well, we have to start showing the good guys that we're gonna protect them.
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Benny Harmony
Yeah. Lieutenant, do you have any final words you'd like to share with our viewers today in regards to these attacks that we're seeing on American citizens? After Charlie Kirk and now these two National Guardsmen, how do we put an end to this?
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Grant Stinchfield
Yes. Two things. Number one, we have to keep our nation in prayer. I believe in the power of prayer. I believe that God has blessed this nation and will continue to do so as long as we focus on him. Number two, it's very important we get involved. I've said over and over again, we have a constitution. We have a process to remove people from office. It's called Election Day. It's time we rise up within the framework of the law. No violence, none of that stuff. And get to the polls, get people who are going to run for office, who are going to back policies that are of the people, by the people and the for of the people. God and country together, there's a solution.
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Benny Harmony
Absolutely. I love that. And thank you. We'll be praying for you. And Lieutenant, just thank you so much for joining us this evening to discuss this tragedy that occurred. Thank you.
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Grant Stinchfield
Thank you. And I salute you for the work you're doing. Thank you.
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Benny Harmony
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Welcome back to Stitchfield Tonight. I'm Benny Harmony filling in for Grant. So we have some more on this breaking news out of D.C. this shooting story which left two West Virginia national Guardsmen critically injured. Now, the suspect is a 29 year old afghan migrant. We have come to this knowledge. And he's now reported to have entered the US in 2021. Now, he came to this country after the botched withdrawal that we saw under the Biden administration and has since overstayed his visa. We pro. We could have guessed that one, but some reports are indicating that this could actually possibly be an act of international terrorism. So on with me now. We have a special guest. Green Beret and active West Virginia National Guardsman and US Senate candidate, Tom Willis. Tom, first off, how are you?
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Grant Stinchfield
Hi, Benny. Thanks for having me. It's an honor to be with you. I'm doing well. But obviously this is a shock for all of West Virginia and, you know, our hearts are heavy with this news and our prayers are with our brothers in the National Guard and for their families. You know, the timing couldn't be worse a day before Thanksgiving. So we have heavy hearts, but we remain steadfast and we remain determined.
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Benny Harmony
Well, as an active Guardsman in West Virginia, what were your first thoughts when you heard of this? This could not be easy. These victims are from your state.
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Grant Stinchfield
Right. And I just want to clarify, Benny, that I'm speaking on behalf of myself, Tom Willis, as a state senator and a candidate for U.S. senate. I'm not speaking on behalf of the West Virginia National Guard. You know, they, they have a public. Public affairs office or the governor will speak on behalf of the West Virginia Guard or, or the Adjutant General. So I'm just sharing my personal views as a state senator and a U.S. senate candidate. But yeah, it's. It's heartbreaking. You know, these are. These are personal friends. You know, we've heard a little bit about the inflammatory rhetoric from some of your previous guests, and it's absolutely true. One thing to remember is that, you know, the vast majority of National Guardsmen don't wear the uniform, you know, 28 days out of every month. They're working at Walmart. They're your local police. They're your firefighters. They're your nurses, your doctors, you know, your, your professionals. So the but they also follow their duty. And when they're called to serve, they serve willingly and with honor. And so these are my brothers and sisters in Washington, D.C. carrying out this mission. It could have easily been me that had been called up for this mission, so I could have easily been a part of this. And I've talked to them during the mission. I know that they were fulfilling their duty, honorably fulfilling it well, like we always do. And West Virginia has a long history of close ties with the Washington, D.C. national Guard. Every presidential inauguration, we send a large contingent of West Virginia National Guardsmen to support the D.C. national Guard and to provide security in the D.C. area. We also support, with regards to hazardous response if there's a hazardous waste disaster or a natural disaster or a chemical, biological, radiological disaster. Officer it's well known that West Virginia is on the first line of defense to support Washington, D.C. with our expertise and our assets. So we have long ties in supporting the D.C. national Guard and supporting Washington, D.C. obviously, this mission would not have been necessary if local authorities were doing a better job of controlling crime and not encouraging lawlessness by being soft on crime and turning a blind eye to a. It really that's the root cause of this tragedy, that and this noxious, what appears to be a noxious, you know, Muslim terrorist ideology. We've been spoiled the last couple of years because President Trump was so effective in attacking, in nullifying ISIS and Al Qaeda during his first term that we haven't heard as much domestically or internationally from those terrorist organizations. But make no mistake, they're still alive. You know, I've, I've worked against them personally on multiple deployments to Afghanistan and to the Middle east, and they're still alive and well. They've been reduced, but. But they still want to kill Americans. They still want to destroy our society. And, and it sounds like that's what we're dealing with this night, this evening. And we'll have to wait for more details to confirm.
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Benny Harmony
Well, Tom, I want to share this clip with you. Pete Hegseth, he talked about earlier sending more troops. And I'll get your thoughts on the other side.
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Grant Stinchfield
Someone decided to turn that into targeting National Guardsmen. That will only stiffen our resolve. We will never back down. We will secure our capital. We will secure our cities. In fact, this happened just steps away from the White House House. It will not stand. And that's why President Trump has asked me, and I will ask the Secretary of the army to the national guard to add 500 additional troops, National Guardsmen to Washington, D.C. this will only stiffen our resolve.
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Benny Harmony
So we just heard it right there. The Pentagon is sending, wants to send 500 more troops to the District following this event. What's your take on that? The overall use of the National Guard troops being deployed not just to D.C. but many major cities.
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Grant Stinchfield
Well, the Secretary of War is absolutely right. We will never back down. One thing to remember is that the people that operate with this ideology are looking for weakness. And if we signal weakness that this sort of attack is effective, then then they'll just double down and increase their efforts. So again, the root cause of, of how did we get to this position in the first place is the failure of mayors in Democrat cities to enforce the law and encourage law. They're encouraging lawlessness through their policies and they're soft on crime and turning a blind eye to crime and failure to enforce the law and letting folks out with no cash bond or failing to prosecute crimes as they occur. This lawlessness is what gave rise to the need, need for a lawful presence in the first place. And so that's, that's the root issue that we need to address here is get people into government that are willing to enforce the law and encourage a culture of lawfulness of law and order. And that's what we stand for on the Republican side of the aisle. And it. That would be nice. So you don't need National Guard in the first place in these cities?
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Benny Harmony
Yeah, absolutely. And when we first began this, you mentioned you are running for Senate in West Virginia. Now, what, what can our elected leaders do? What are you calling on them to do to address this? And what would you do if you were in their shoes right now?
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Grant Stinchfield
That's right, Vinnie. I'm currently a state senator. I'm running for U.S. senate for West Virginia. I think that one thing we need to do at the federal level is take a very close look at our immigration loss. You know, I met my, my wife on a military deployment, and when we went through the immigration process, the paperwork is quite thick that you have to accomplish to get a visa, then a green card and then a US Passport and become a citizen. But it was interesting. One of some of the questions that they asked her as part of that immigration packet was whether she was a communist or had ties to communism. And it was interesting because there's an explicit acknowledgment on behalf of the State Department and the US Government that we don't want to bring people into our country with ideological views such as communism that are completely antithetical to our constitutional republic form of government. And I think we need to take a very hard look at implementing similar restrictions on Sharia law, because Sharia law is completely antithetical to our constitutional republic as well as. And if we're going to, if we're going to screen for one harmful ideology inconsistent with our way of life in our society, we should screen for all of them. And certainly Sharia law would be one of those. Now. It's very difficult. I've worked in a few embassies overseas, and I've had conversations with some of my friends that were in the visa department. And a lot of times we were in Muslim countries, and folks would come in, they know the right things to say, they know the right, the, the words to avoid. It's not always easy to figure out, you know, who, who might turn out to be a Muslim terrorist, but we need to make the standards much stricter. And so we avoid a situation like they have in Europe, where Muslim, Islamic immigration has completely transformed a lot of societies across Europe. And frankly, it's too late for a lot of those civilizations. They're, they're, they're beyond hope at this point in a lot of those countries.
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Benny Harmony
Well, Tom, thank you so much. Thanks for coming on this evening.
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Grant Stinchfield
Thanks, Minnie.
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Benny Harmony
Coming back, we will share some final thoughts on the day and all that unfolded on this day before Thanksgiving. Stay here. Welcome back. Well, thank you all for joining us today as I filled in for Grant. And Grant, thank you for allowing me to do this, but I just want to wish you guys all a very happy Thanksgiving. And even though there was great tragedy today, we have to remember how good our God is and always is.
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Grant Stinchfield
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