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Welcome to Stenchfield tonight. I'm Bo Davidson filling in for Grant tonight since I'm at the Moms for Liberty Joyful Warrior Summit in Orlando, Florida. RAV has a huge presence here at the Moms for Liberty Summit as we honor their commitment to families. Moms for Liberty was established in 2021 by two school board moms. They are dedicated to fighting for the survival of America by unifying, educating and empowering parents to defend their parental rights at all levels of government. They hold leaders accountable. They spread awareness and an understanding of the limited role of government. They stand together against government overreach and intimidation tactics. They promote teaching the principles of liberty in our homes and community. They engage our communities and elected leaders on key issues impacting our families. And they activate to public service. Now, some of the big speakers at this summit include James o', Keefe, Senator Ashley Moody, Byron Donalds and his lovely wife Erica Donalds. Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo, Pastor John Amonchukwu that RAV audiences will know Jennifer Tse, the CEO of XXXY Athletics, Seth Dillon of the Babylon Bee and of course President Trump actually spoke to this group last year. Earlier today I spoke with the director of outreach for Moms for Liberty, Catalina Stube. Let's take a look. Catalina Stube, thank you so much for joining me here. We're at the Moms for Liberty summit, the Joyful Warrior Summit. Tell me what drew you to Moms for Liberty?
Catalina Stube
Well, it was an answer to actually everything was all single issues that were happening not only in the state of Florida actually because we thought it was only maybe in my district, it's only maybe at school.
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Catalina Stube
It's actually a global issue right now. But for me, all the tyranny, all the mandates, all everything that I wasn't agree and somebody was pushing somebody who is not A doctor, somebody who is not an expert. And I think, as mom, we have the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of our children. So this is something so common sense that. Actually, I was just defending common sense. I was just defending the natural things that God gave you.
Bo Davidson
Well, you're not only with Moms for Liberty, you're the director of outreach. So tell me about this role you have and the things that you do with the group.
Catalina Stube
It's an honor to work for the biggest organization that take most action in the country. We're right now working with the White House directly with the office of the first lady, with AI. I mean, like, it's such an honor that people, the most influential people in this country, recognize the work that we have done. We have passed 52 legislation protecting minors from the transition, protecting women's sports, protecting so many fundamental things. I mean, like, we are just defending common sense.
Dr. James Lindsay
And.
Catalina Stube
But. But now it's. I think we have to stand for this, because when they are trying to get and. And trigger the family, and if you don't defend it, it's going to actually damage the future of our country. So we're ready. We will never back down. We will never get intimidated, even if they try. But we stand strong. We need to.
Bo Davidson
You know, Catalina, I met you, I think, four or five years ago. We talked about this. You've got a beautiful family, and you are a mother. And I'd like for you to talk about the role of a mother, because it's not a job, it's a blessing, but it's also a tremendous responsibility. So talk about your role as a mother and what you think the role of a mother should be.
Catalina Stube
Well, I think, first of all, all of my jobs that I have been doing in my life, this is the most important, because you have in your hands the power to give to the society a productive member of society or a problem to society. So it's a big responsibility, and you have to make the best. Normally, you have this instinct, maternal instinct, to do the best for your kids. So right now, I decide to homeschool my kids. This is the third year, and they are doing amazing. And when I compare my kids or homeschool kids to normal kids in public schools, you see the big difference. This is actually the right solution right now, is not to be the ideal, but I still think schools are great for kids. But right now, you cannot allow your kids to be indoctrinated by the enemy.
Bo Davidson
Of course, how hard is it to homeschool? Catalina? I know there's probably parents out there that are watching that probably would say, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I'm qualified to do it. It's time consuming, it's difficult. I mean, that's something I'm going to have to think about as a father, too. But speak to those parents who have some hesitation about homeschooling and how you've been able to do it.
Catalina Stube
Well, that was all my concerns. So it's very legit, what you just asked. It's should I have the time? I don't know about algebra, I don't know about science and everything in physics, but actually all the system on homeschooling is, let's say, it's so open, so many options that you have Christian homeschool, not only all the religions, but all the options that they're open to help you and navigate through this. To be honest, if you have three hours of your time for your children, which you have usually, even if you work eight hours a day, you still have three hours to help your kids to. To be around the house. And you don't have to do everything, the teaching, the everything. No, they have all the curriculum, they have all the instructions, and it's really easy, actually. I thought I could not make it, and I did it. And if I can do it, if I can make it, you can make it.
Bo Davidson
We are in Florida, Catalina, and I know you've raised your family in Florida, and I feel very blessed to be here. Talk about Florida as a state, because, you know, just on stage earlier today was Attorney General James Utmire. There's been a lot of accomplishments that Florida has made just in terms of parental rights. We saw what Governor DeSantis did, talk about Florida as a place to raise a family, because I think it's become a model or a standard for much of the rest of the country. How have you enjoyed being a parent in Florida?
Catalina Stube
It's a blessing. And I cannot think about any other governor rather than Governor DeSantis. And he has a bacon of freedom. He is defending not only liberties of the citizens of Florida, but he's also defending the family institution, the education without the indoctrination, the health of the children. And he became, I mean, like one of the best governors in history. And it's by his actions, and his actions speak clearly, that he will not bend down for the left, radical left, when they are asking for mandates. Tyrann. Or when they are pressuring about the women's sports. He stood by the right side, defending minors from the transitions, defending the academics. And, well, we are not only the first state in all the country, but to be honest, it's only 51% of proficiency in the state of Florida. That shows you how bad we are in national level. So some of the states, they are only 2% of proficiency. It means only 2% of the kids know how to read and solve problems in math. And this is so sad because they receiving all the money, they're receiving all the funds. It's not about the money. It's about. They are not receiving the real teaching. They are receiving a program about dei, about many other things that doesn't align with, with their future, with. With the teaching of academics. It is a big problem. So at least Florida is extending the path for all these old states and it's creating an example for not only the nation, but I think I. I think we have so many work to do. We still.
Bo Davidson
We're still working on it, without a doubt. Well, Kathleen, there's, you know, Moms for Liberties chapter all across the country. Tell me a bit about what those chapters do. Do they put pressure on legislative bodies, attorneys general, school boards? How does Moms for Liberty mobilize to get the results they want for parents all across this country?
Catalina Stube
Well, our grassroots is one of the strongest in the country because not only during elections, we help filling out the registration, voter registrations, we look for the curriculum at schools. We go to the school board meetings to speak for the agenda or against the agenda. We do so many things. We gather, we educate parents, we give the tool to parents. It's amazing what a group of women really concerned about the education of the kids can do it. Never underestimate the power of a mom. It's incredible what they can do and what they can change because they are passionate about their kids, they're passionate about education. They are simply. It's so nature, it's so genuine, their fight. So it's working. I mean, like, is growing.
Bo Davidson
I want to talk to you a little bit about. You're Colombian American. I think you're Miss Colombia before. I'm sitting here with. Yes, a Miss Colombia, which I'm very honored and very honored. Talk to us a little bit about South America. I think it's very interesting that CPAC just had a conference in Paraguay because you have some conservative leaders there. You have Malay in Argentina. But a lot of South American countries still are under socialist dictatorships. You came from that world. You're now in America. But I know this from my own experience that a lot of Latin American people are very family oriented. Parents, parental rights and parental concerns and the nuclear family is so important to them. What's going on in South America, why is that happening? And for those that come here, do they have a better future?
Catalina Stube
Absolutely. Well, communist is spreading all around the the world and all around America. Unfortunately, communists is taking one by one every single country and it's the same playbook and the first thing they take is education, the media and it's, you know, it's exactly the same all over. In Brazil they do a persecution, heavy persecution against their opposition. In that case it's Bolsonaro. But in all the countries it's the same. In Peru, it's the same in all the countries in South America. But, but when I left Colombia is because they start killing the leaders the way they're thinking. They think that they can kill the ideas. They will never kill the ideas. But that was not the future for that was that I was looking for my children. That was at one point I left Colombia and I was looking for liberty, for an opportunity to raise my kids in peace without worrying. How are you going to protect your kids every day? What I have to do, just simply bless, bless you that you are alive in a family and you can go to school. So for me, things like what happened with Charlie Kirk, it was shocking that it was happening here and immediately creating me this in my mind. Oh my God, why here again, why in this country? I grew up in Colombia. Seeing that when they killed Galan in 89, when right now, recently they kill the other presidential candidate is sad. That is happening really here and at that level, I mean when, when a big conservative leader get trying to kill the idea. Yeah, it is very sad.
Bo Davidson
Well, Kathleen, my last question for you really is, you know, a lot of the themes that are going to be discussed at this conference over the next two days are religious liberty, medical freedom, freedom of speech, screen time, what are our kids watching on tv? I think that's so important now that we have a Trump second administration. And I know you mentioned working closely with Melania's office. Are you excited about what the future holds in the second administration for what will be done in the next several years for parental rights?
Catalina Stube
Oh, it's our time. It's a golden era and they are creating so many new things for the kids, opportunities and improving education. They are thinking about financial education, financial literacy. And it's amazing because finally they're going to learn, they're going to be prepared for the future, going to be having the skills to defend themselves. For the, for the future. And this is what we need because what we is seeing right now, it's kids just getting graduating without even know how to fill taxes or how to open an account or make investments. I mean they cannot survive by themselves at the age of 20 years old. Remember 50 years ago, 100 years ago, a 20 old year boy, it was completely independent.
Bo Davidson
Yeah.
Catalina Stube
And right now they don't have a clue about anything.
Bo Davidson
That's true.
Catalina Stube
So it's sad that now we are getting back to strongest physical education in schools with the department of health and now restoring the menu at the schools. So we are renting, rebuilding their healthy immune systems. Yeah, immune system. The academics, the preparing for the skills, preparing for everything. I think we are going to restore everything around the kids.
Bo Davidson
And RFK Jr obviously a big move getting him involved in kids health and well, just health in general. Do you think there'll be a Trump baby boom? You know he's got these thousand dollar accounts which I think is a great idea. Do you think we'll see more what they call Trump babies?
Catalina Stube
The mindset right now the people are in peace and I think they trust the government. And as soon as people feel like the family values are getting revived, like what happened with Charlie Kirk for example, people are finally going to church, finally realizing the most important thing that we have to defend is family. Our natural purpose is to be fruitful and to procreate. It's simple.
Bo Davidson
Elon said that too.
Catalina Stube
Yeah, it's simple. You just have to continue to this natural law. And I think. Yes, absolutely.
Bo Davidson
But it's a different, it's a different administration now. And thankfully there's much more of a focus on education, on parental rights, on health, on vaccines, on just what our kids are watching. And I mean we have this great partnership with Angel Studios, you know, now where kids have a different alternative when it comes to entertainment.
Catalina Stube
And that's a good point because now we didn't trust two, three years ago about entertainment. Nothing. It's completely different now in my house actually I signed out for all this application and now I sign in for Angel Studios from Flix, Pure Flix. Pure Flix and so many others that right now are respecting at least the families.
Bo Davidson
But thankfully Governor DeSantis has been all over that. Right. He's made some great changes. So it's an exciting time to be here. I think Moms for Liberty is an amazing organization. I'm really glad to see that dads have a place here too. There's panels here for dad. So Catalina Stube. Thank you so much for joining me and God bless you.
Catalina Stube
Thank you both. Thank you so much.
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Welcome back to Stitchfield. Tonight, here at the Moms for Liberty Joyful Warrior Summit in Orlando, I had the chance to speak with a pioneer in education, Dr. James Lindsay. Dr. Lindsay is the founder of Human Discourses. He's also an author, a mathematician, and a political commentator. He knows a great deal about the Marxist roots that have infiltrated our education system right here in America. So we discussed that in detail. Take a look. Well, I'm here at the Moms for Liberty Joyful Warrior Summit in Orlando, Florida. I'm here with Dr. James Lindsey. Dr. Lindsey, thank you so much for being here. Why did you get involved with Moms for Liberty? What was it that drew you to the organization?
Dr. James Lindsay
I've actually been involved for a really long time. I got involved in 2021. A few months after the organization was founded. I met the other co founder, Tiffany Justice. She came to a workshop I held down here in Miami about the Marxist roots of dei. And she's like, what your work is doing is what our moms need to kind of, you know, put the bridge across from our advocacy work to really understanding what's underneath the hood of the ideologies taking over the country. So she got me involved. I met Tina, I think, in January of 22, and started going. I've spoken, I don't know, dozens of chapter meetings around the country. Now I just spoke at 1 in York County, South Carolina. I was just at 1, and I met with the Moms for Liberty group in Anchorage, Alaska last weekend. Getting all over, meeting the moms all over the country. But I'm just inspired. They changed the country. They did more than any other grassroots activism group, I think, to change this country than anybody. I mean, just period.
Bo Davidson
How did they do it? Give me some examples, because I know it started, what, in 2021. So it hasn't been around that long. But it seems to me, Dr. Lindsay, that you look at how schools were and parents saw what was going on in the pandemic. So we know a lot more now than we didn't then. You've probably known about it for a very long time.
Dr. James Lindsay
Well, it's been a learning process, but.
Bo Davidson
The parents are seeing it. So what is it we know now that we didn't know maybe in 2020, before moms for Liberty started?
Dr. James Lindsay
This is communism. That's. That's what we know now, that this is a communist attempt to brainwash and indoctrinate our children through traumatic techniques. The moms knew that their kids were in trouble. So that mother's intuition, that mother's love, inspired them to get involved. What they understood from the beginning is that the real solutions work from the ground up. They work from the local level up to the state level, then to the federal level. So they started out immediately, going to school board meetings, wanting to get civically engaged, getting on school boards, going to county commissions, getting on county commissions, and then working up. And for a long time, you know, it was state politics. State politics, especially down here in Florida. And then they started making waves on the national stage. They couldn't be ignored anymore. They had 30 something, 40 something chapters. I mean, not chapters in states that they were represented in. Right. With hundreds of chapters and they couldn't be. They became a national force. It couldn't be ignored anymore. But what they understood, and I think I was proud to say that I helped with this, is that what's actually happening are programs that were piloted in the Soviet Union that were piloted under Mao Zedong in the 1950s and then piloted again under Mao Zedong in the 1960s in this cultural revolution where they're using our kids to be the basis of a revolution. So they took this all very seriously. They didn't. A lot of people scoffed at it in 2122, and they took it very seriously from the beginning, which gave them a competitive edge to being able to make a difference with what's happening to our kids.
Bo Davidson
Talk about the Marxist roots. I'd like to get down to the brass taxes, because you've studied this extensively. I remember hearing, and I can't remember. You'll know the lady's name. One of the ladies, the parents that was in, I think it was Virginia, talking about, as you just said, the communist roots of what was happening at the school boards. Then we saw, as you said, on the federal level, we started to see the prosecution of these parents. So for those out there that would say, well, James, it sounds a bit of a stretch that you're saying that, oh, it's communist roots and they're trying to communize our country, even though we know that they've said they're going to do this on our education system. What do you say? Give us the backstory of the connection between communism and how it came into our education system.
Dr. James Lindsay
Yeah. So the lady you're mentioning from Virginia is Xi Van Fleet, and she's written the book Mao's America, which I wrote the foreword to. So, yeah, we've been fighting this for a little bit. So one of the things I did was took these people seriously. If people think this is a stretch, listen to some of these people, like Shivan Fleet or some of the Soviets or the Romanians or the Cubans or the Venezuelans who have come and they're screaming, this is communism. This is communism. We've seen this before. Take those people seriously. Xi Van Fleet's done an excellent job, for example, laying out detail by detail argument. This is what they did. She was a survivor of the Cultural Revolution in Mao's China in the 1960s. This is what they did. This is what we're doing. Look at the parallels. They're absolutely clear. My work has focused instead on reading the actual literature backwards. I started in the woke feminist literature, the Gender studies nonsense, the queer theory, then the critical race theory. That gets you back to about 1970. And then I looked into the postmodernist literature. Well, what were these guys? They were a bunch of Marxists. They were dissatisfied that Marxism had gone sour in the Soviet Union, and they were dissatisfied that it hadn't taken over. But they still had that idea of the transformation, the fundamental transformation of society to a liberated socialist system. The critical theorists who influenced affected our entire program, especially in our colleges of education, which is pertinent for the Moms for Liberty are following a direct playbook. For example, I wrote a book. It actually had a Moms for Liberty origin. There was a chapter that was suing in the state of Tennessee over the SEL programming, the Social Emotional Learning programming there, wit and wisdom. And I wrote a brief and I asked the lawyer if I could turn the brief into a book. It's called the Marxification of Education. And I tracked this Brazilian Marxist named Paulo Freddy and all of his work. And what he did was he literally, he says so in his own book, adapted the idea of Mao Zedong's mass line to an educational program with the intention of creating a socialist conscientization. That's his word for it in the learners. Well, that's what our school system adopted under the brand name Critical Pedagogy. He called it Education for Liberation. But it became under the brand name of Critical Pedagogy, which then became Culturally responsive teaching from a woman named Gloria Ladson Billings. You can read her three papers in 1995 where she lays this out, that that's where she got it and what it's about. You can see it in UN documents and education documents and NEA documents to this day that they're Paulo Freddie this, Paulo Freddy that. Paulo Freddy the other thing. This is the basis. This is a Marxist who had adapted Mao Zedong's mass line technique of propaganda to an educational program with the explicit intention of causing a political awakening. That's what he says, a real literacy. He said he was teaching reading. Real literacy is political literacy, he said, not being able to read the words on the page, but being able to read the oppression in society. This is Marxism.
Bo Davidson
I want to talk to you about this new study. I'm sure you've seen it where. And I can't remember who's doing it. Who is saying that college students are now that those who identify as trans has been cut in half. I was reading a Yahoo rebuttal to that today, this morning, and it said that it was suspended A statistical error that that's not true at all. Do you think we have reached peak wokeness? Is there legitimacy to this study? And if not, what else is still to be done?
Dr. James Lindsay
Well, there's a lot to be done. In any case. We have an entire generation and a half or two generations that have been damaged by not Marxist necessarily concepts, but Marxist derived concepts and Marxist ways of thinking. You know, the big saying is we want schools to teach our children how to think, not what to think.
Ryan Walters
Right.
Dr. James Lindsay
Well, one of the things that the Moms for Liberty group understood from my work immediately was you got to understand they're actually teaching people how to think the wrong way. They are teaching kids how to think like Marxists, how to find oppression in everything. So we've got a lot of work to do to reinstill the idea of the American dream, that this country is not founded in evil, that it is not, you know, a dream that's only for some people and not others. Therefore you get your oppressor versus oppressed dynamic, that this intrinsic conflict between those who have and those who don't have is not the best way to understand society. That a revolution or the common ruin of the contending classes, as Mark said, is not what we're, we got a lot of deprogramming to do. I do think however that as far as, you know, this left wing Marxist woke stuff goes, we have hit a peak, a cultural peak. The society is sick and tired of it. I even am hearing from the left where they're willing to speak, usually privately and quietly, that they're tired of this radical stuff. They don't just kind of want to get back to normal. Yeah, they still believe in, you know, some of the different causes but they're, they're just sick of the radicalism, everything being extreme all the time. So I think we've hit peak woke. It's hard to say institutionally the institutions. It's like a zombie ideology. It's dead because nobody likes it, but it's still like walking around eating brains because the institutions are animated by it and they're not going to give up institutions without a fight. It's going to be legal fights, it's going to be employment fights and we're going to have to find all the corruption, we're going to have to hold people to feet to the fire to get them out. But I don't know if what, you know, I've seen this rebuttal to. I don't know how the statistics parse, but I can tell you that this Woke stuff is never been more unpopular, ever. It's on the decline. It's going to continue to decline and it's up to us to make sure it continues to decline.
Bo Davidson
We're talking about the culture war. We've seen Governor DeSantis go to battle with Disney, but at least we are seeing some things like Netflix having a faith department in their organization, House of David on Prime. Do you think Disney has done enough? Have they righted their course enough or does there deem to be more pressure still put on them in terms of the culture war?
Dr. James Lindsay
So, you know, I don't think they've done enough, but I also don't, I'm not trying to give them any out on the damage that they're doing, but we have to look bigger. If we look at any given corporation, we're missing the whole picture. The picture doesn't work this way. The corporations, some of them are very voluntary in doing this. But you have to understand that the corporations are working in a gigantic, and I mean this word with, you know, legal intent than a giant racket. This is a corporate collusion, trust racketeering kind of environment. Under things like their ESG scores, their Corporate Equality Index scores that comes from the Human Rights Campaign. There are all of these scores that they have to live up to to prove that they're part of whatever global agenda. And there's a Council for Inclusive Capitalism. A lot of people aren't aware of this. This thing has over 700 of the Fortune 1000 companies have their CEOs. As a member of the Council for Inclusive Capitalism, what this means is some way to take free enterprise and to put stakeholder driven rules in to tell the corporations, look, if you want access to big capital, if you want to be on all the lists that allow, you know, to have primo recruitment from the schools, whatever, you have to have like a 100. And all these, these, these metrics that they've put out that are all cooked books. And if we don't understand that this is the way that the corporations are doing, it's very important for us to put Disney in a squeeze and to get Disney to push back. But what we want is a company like Disney saying uncle and saying get me out of this racket that I'm caught in. We wanted, but we should have wanted Bud Light screamer, Anheuser Busch screaming get me out from under this Corporate Equality Index score that made me put Dylan Mulvaney on the beer can and cost me, you know, what were they, 16 or 18 billion dollars? Get me out of this arrangement. And it's, I hate to say it because I don't like relying on government to solve problems, but this is massive international financial racketeering. It's going to take some really, really heavy firepower from state attorney general's offices and hopefully the American Department of Justice that are going to be able to leverage, leverage back against this. But we don't want to miss the forest for the trees. Disney's a tree. The forest is that there's a corporate collusion racket that's making all of them play ball. Yeah.
Bo Davidson
Well, Dr. Lindsay, you've been so insightful today, as you always are. Thank you so much for your contribution, all the work that you, the great work you do on education.
Dr. James Lindsay
Thank you so much.
Bo Davidson
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Bo Davidson
Welcome back to Stinchfield. Tonight, we are continuing our coverage of the Moms for Liberty Summit right here in Orlando. You've probably seen my next guest in the media in recent days. His name is Ryan Walters, and he was formerly the school superintendent in Oklahoma. He recognized that teachers unions have become an impediment in our education system, but thankfully, he has created an alternative to those unions. Listen in. I'm here at the Moms for Liberty conference in Orlando, Florida. It's called the Joyful Warrior Summit. We have to be joyful warriors, don't we? I'm here with Ryan Walters. He is the former school superintendent in Oklahoma. You guys have probably seen him all over the media for a lot of the work that he's been doing. He's been at the forefront of education and education. Ryan is a huge component here at Moms for Liberty. So first and foremost, talk about your involvement with Moms for Liberty and why they're such an important organization.
Ryan Walters
Well, first of all, there's been no more influential group in the last five or six years of Moms for Liberty in education reform. When I became the state superintendent of Oklahoma, we brought back parents rights, school choice. We banned diversity, equity, inclusion. First state to do that. And it was Moms for Liberty that helped us on the ground. It was the parents that were speaking out, saying, why aren't we focused on the basics? I mean, we wanted our kids to understand math, science, American history. Why are we teaching them things like crt, transgenderism? And it was the Moms for Liberty that stayed in there, fought back. You had the teachers union attacking them left and right. They were called everything under the sun. They were being attacked for common sense, frankly, and defending their kids. And so, again, you look at everything that's happened in the last few years in education, so much of it, you got to give a lot of credit to the Moms for Liberty for standing in the fray and being those freedom fighters.
Bo Davidson
Ryan, my mom was a public school teacher in the Shelby county schools in Memphis for 40 years. Yet she put me in private schools. Now that says something, right? Because even though she loved her school and loved probably the system, I watched her over the years, over decades, become more weary with the system. The system is part of the problem. Talk to me about why teachers unions problematically are part of the problem rather than the solution, shall we say?
Ryan Walters
That's right. I mean, there's no more force for evil bad in our schools than the teachers union. They have pushed transgenderism, they have pushed critical race theory. They're open about it. They're a money laundering scheme for the Democrat Party. They take teachers dues. They claim we're for teachers. They're not for teachers. They're for their power, money and influence. I was a public school teacher for 10 years. I saw it on the front lines. I saw it as state superintendent at Oklahoma. And you see it nationally. The teachers union is out calling Republicans and conservatives fascist. If you're a teacher that voted for President Trump, according to the teachers union, you're a fascist. It's absurd. They are absolutely the most radical Marxist organization in the country. And what does that look like in your kid's school? What it means is instead of focusing on math, reading, science, history, instead of trying to promote citizenship, instead of trying to focus on academic outcomes and how do we improve these test scores, We've got some of the lowest in the country that we've ever had. Their focus is not on those things. It's on ideology. It is on a focus on how they achieve power and how they get more money from teachers. And so that's where you see the results, you see the outcomes. It's not a surprise because that's been their focus. That is their goal. Not student achievement, not parents, not students, but their own power.
Bo Davidson
Why is that? I mean, if we really get into why, I always like to ask this question, but how do you get so many people, so many red blooded American teachers thinking this way? How do you do that?
Ryan Walters
Well, first of all, they lie. Okay, so the teachers union bosses push for all these things. If you go. And a big part of what we're doing now with the Teacher Freedom alliance is going. Do you know that over 90% of your dues go to Democrat candidates? They have no idea. They don't know go. I say, do you know that at their national conference they were promoting transgenderism and. No, I had no. I mean, all they told me was, I'm here to support you, I need to provide you liability insurance, things like that. They're not leading with all of the schemes, those are behind closed doors. And so what you see is, look, we've got a lot of great teachers in the country. And they go, well, you know, this seems like an organization of teachers. So I join and then they get your money and it's almost impossible to leave. It's like the Hotel California. Once you're in, you can't leave. And so that's really how they're able to do that. It is the union bosses driving it. So many of their members don't even know what they're doing. And so again, that's why we've started the teacher.
Bo Davidson
Tell me about you. You've got an alternative now? Is this the first of its kind?
Ryan Walters
Yeah. No, we don't see an organization like this in the country. We're national, we're in every state. And what we say is we're going to help you leave. But even, even just as important, once you leave, we're going to support you, we provide you liability insurance. You don't have to worry about being sued by a former administrator or anything like that. We've got your back. We're going to give you professional development. You don't have to go back to the teachers union and beg for your professional development points and you have to be sitting in a room being told that there's 27 genders. No, we'll provide you good professional development. And then lastly, we're going to prepare you how to be a good teacher and how to push back against all of this wokeism and this nonsense in school so that you can get back to doing your job and focused on academics. So we are helping them leave, but we're also building out the supports for them once they leave to be the best teachers in the country. So we're going to make classrooms great again by empowering those great teachers.
Bo Davidson
That's excellent. Well, Ryan, what are the three things, if you could put to three, that parents need to be thinking about right now as they look into what's happening in their classrooms?
Ryan Walters
Number one, they need to see what's going on in the classroom. Curriculum wise. Parents, if a teacher isn't sharing with you what they're teaching in the classroom, a district doesn't show you those things. That's a huge red flag. You need to be very focused on what are they teaching my kids? What are they actually being shown in the classroom? That's number one. Number two, what are they doing to drive my students academic performance? Well, you know, if my kid's behind, okay, what are you doing to catch him back up, how can I see that? And then the third one is, what can I do as a parent if they can't answer that question of, hey, mom, dad, these are some things you can do at home. I want you involved. I want you to see what we're doing, and I want to help equip you to help your kid get better and better in the classroom. That's a major problem, too, because let me tell you, every good teacher knows the more parental involvement, the better off the student will be in the classroom. So if they're not reaching out for a partnership with you as a parent to say, hey, this is what we're doing and I'd love your help, I want you to be in the know, that's a major red flag. So, parents, what's being taught? What's being done to make sure that your kids getting the best education possible? And thirdly, what can you be doing? How can you be involved if your school isn't answering those questions?
Bo Davidson
You got a major problem, especially if you've got things that you can't opt out of and that's not being shown to you. I've seen that happen before. Well, Ryan, I want to ask you a federal level here. Now. President Trump brought on Linda McMahon to be Secretary of Education. He pretty much said to her, I hope you write yourself out of a job, right? Hope you delete your job. How is that going in your mind? And what is the role now of the Department of Education? Is it doing better now? What do you think we'll see over the next several years?
Ryan Walters
It's been tremendous. I mean, President Trump had a tremendous vision eliminating the Department of Education, returning power to the states, so that ultimately states should be returning the power back to parents, back to the good teachers in the classroom, not trying to dictate from top down what policies are. And so Secretary McMahon's done a tremendous job of that. I can't applaud President Trump more for bringing that vision in. But I will tell you, we do have to step up and defeat the unions as part of this, because, listen, President Trump is doing his job in eliminating the Department of Education. But if you allow teachers unions to exhibit all of this power and all this control, they fill the power vacuum. So that's where it's so important that we continue the fight to defeat the unions so that when President Trump has fully eliminated that Department of Education, power does actually return to communities, to the classroom, to parents. And so, but I couldn't say more about what a tremendous job. I mean, he's been the man. A lot of people have said it, he's actually doing it. So it's tremendous. And parents across the country are applauding it.
Bo Davidson
Well, finally, Ryan, I became a dad 20, 20 months ago. So with a happy, healthy baby boy. I have to start thinking about some of these issues right now as I look to the school systems. And again, like I said, my mom put me in private. If I can afford it, I'm sure I'd like to do that. But if I were looking at a public school system, what is something I should be looking at right now as I even consider options?
Ryan Walters
Absolutely. And again, I think you as a parent, you're approaching it the right way. By the way, I've got four. That's right, that's right. You know, first of all, what are they teaching? What's the curriculum and why did they choose it? Again, you know, what are you going to be teaching my kids in first and second grade? How do you teach reading? Do you use the science of reading? We've seen so much of this where schools have moved off of the basics in education. So making sure your school's focused on literacy, literacy at the early ages is so important. And then what are the parent involvement programs? What do you do with parents? How do you communicate with parents? And as time gets on, I also think you need to look at the schools to see so what do you do for my kid career wise? Are you giving them more options than just college? As we know a lot of kids don't want to go to college, they want to go pursue other activities. So I always encourage parents to go listen, you want your kids God given talents to be utilized in the best way possible. So you want a school that is reflective of that.
Bo Davidson
And again, that was Ryan Walters. Make sure you go to his social media and take a look at that brand new alliance that he has that is an alternative to the WOKE school boards. Well, RAV is on the scene here at the Moms for Liberty summit in Orlando. We have much, much, much more. So stay tuned, stick around, we'll be right back.
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Bo Davidson
Welcome back. I'm joined by Dr. Alejandro Diaz, the chief of pediatric medicine of the wellness company. Dr. Diaz, you know, microplastics is a topic that has been in the news for many, many years. Is it true that microplastics have been discovered in blood, in the liver and lungs, and even the brains of people?
Dr. Alejandro Diaz
Yes, well, yeah, definitely. And unfortunately, this is true. And it's started to get the attention of scientifics, including medical doctors like myself recently with this increased amount of plastics. Microplastics and nanoplastics that are virtually everywhere. Every breath, every bite, every sip. It's incredible how much we are.
Dr. James Lindsay
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Dr. Alejandro Diaz
Are having these plastics on our daily lives.
Bo Davidson
That's, that's alarming. That's an alarming number. And speaking of statistics, we saw a staggering number. Studies estimate that the average person, I didn't know this consumes between 39,000 and 52,000 plastic particles each year just through food and water, and is up to 121,000 when air exposure is also included in that tally. Just how big of a problem is this, Doctor? And where are the microplastics coming from?
Dr. Alejandro Diaz
Well, this is a huge problem, not only a health concern, but it's also what I call a medical health emergency right now because there are thousands and thousands of micro and nanoplastics on our daily lives. You know, there are divided from primary plastics and secondary plastics. Primary plastics are those products that we use daily that are intentionally created to, you know, as containers. And, and they are encoding, they're in daily construction materials, paintings and, and different tooth, tooth paste and different personal care products. The secondary are the degradation of different, bigger plastic parts like tires, like dust in the air and things along that line. So we are, like I said, you know, every bite, every breath and every sip we are encountering. Just to put it in perspective, there are some studies that are suggesting that up to 240,000 plastic particles are on each liter of bottled water. Can you imagine that? And we drink approximately, in The United States, 47 gallons per person per year, only for water. Forget about the rest of juices and so on and so forth. Plastic Wraps. You go to the market, you go everywhere and we are, we are living in a plastic world, literally.
Bo Davidson
So, Dr. Diaz, what are the, what are the medical implications of this in terms of health? With microplastics in the body, what kind of problems can it create?
Dr. Alejandro Diaz
Recent, recent studies have suggested and have actually found that microplastics, nanoplastics are found in kidney tissues, thyroid, bloodstream, brain tissue and you know, different, different liver and so on and so forth. So can you imagine the implications, the health implications? Even, even some studies have just suggested that patients with dementia, they have higher amounts of plastic, up to 7 grams of plastics in their brains. So it's interfering with our, with our gut, with our brains, with our lungs, with our GI tract and the microbiome itself and so many other organs and systems.
Bo Davidson
That'S, that's extremely problematic. Dr. But I appreciate you illuminating on it. Well, what's the solution? I mean, does the wellness company have an antidote to this? Because surely there's got to be something that can help us reverse this terrible trend.
Dr. Alejandro Diaz
Well, the solution, we can, we can kind of subdivide it into two main, two main forms or three probably. Number one is creating conscious. We have to understand that we have been attacked for decades now with a lot of plastics, microwavable containers and so on and so forth, daily bottled water and so on and so forth. That's number one, awareness. Number two, avoidance as much as we can. It's not, it's not, obviously it's not. It's not an easy task because everything we look around, the coffee we take, the bottle we drink and so on and so forth, it's surrounded by plastic. But number three, and I really think this is very important and I echo and I applaud what the wellness company is doing. They just released an amazing product that is called Plast Detox. And Plast Detox, it's a well compounded capsules with calcium, well chlorella with lycopene, calcium D gluconate and also a vast combination. And the interesting combination of probiotics, specifically saccharomysis boulardii, that I, I think is one of the best probiotics on the market. So these are great solutions to start degrading that silent. An invisible threat to public health.
Bo Davidson
Indeed. And Dr. Diaz, I believe our viewers can go to TWC.com health and use the promo code RAV to get Plastdetox. Thank you so much, Dr. Diaz, for illuminating us on the dangers of microplastics. And also a solution to It. Thank you, doctor.
Dr. Alejandro Diaz
Thank you for having me.
Bo Davidson
We'll be right back.
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Bo Davidson
Welcome back. I'm Bo Davidson in for Grant. Tonight, we are on day one of the Moms for Liberty Joyful Warrior Summit right here in Orlando. And to wrap up today's show on a great note, we have a video of a young child from my hometown of Memphis, Tennessee, thanking President Trump for sending in the National Guard. It's so great. Take a look at this.
Young Child from Memphis
Like, how peaceful Memphis is ever since the National Guard came. There was a lot of things I couldn't do before the National Guard came because I had to worry a lot about guns and stuff. I couldn't play because I was worried that somebody who might pull out a gun or something. But now I could do that. And I just wanted to thank the President of the United States for bringing the National Guard.
Bo Davidson
I mean, how could that not warm your heart? It's so heartwarming. It's so inspiring. It's so uplifting. I mean, this child said that he couldn't play in Memphis, Tennessee, because he was worried about gunfire. Now, how sad is that? But now with the National Guard there, thanks to President Trump, the bad guys have to think twice about what they do. And as they say, new sheriff is in town. So from this kid's mouth to God's ears, what a breath of fresh air for my hometown in Memphis, Tennessee. So for the home of the blues, there's now a little bit of hope. For now, we sign off. But make sure you stay tuned tomorrow for live coverage from day two of the summit and also our coverage of the Marine 250. See you then.
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Broadcast live from the Moms for Liberty Joyful Warrior Summit in Orlando, Florida, this episode centers on the growing parents' rights movement, the push-back against “woke” education, and grassroots efforts to reshape schools and family policy in America. Featuring exclusive interviews with prominent activists and experts—including Catalina Stube (Moms for Liberty), Dr. James Lindsay, Ryan Walters (former Oklahoma Superintendent), and Dr. Alejandro Diaz—the episode examines ideological battles in schools, government overreach, health, and the importance of active parental involvement.
[00:55]
[02:22 - 16:45]
Why Moms for Liberty?
“All the tyranny, all the mandates…somebody who is not a doctor, somebody who is not an expert…as a mom, we have the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of our children.”
– Catalina Stube [02:35]
Catalina’s Role:
[18:44 - 30:27]
“They did more than any other grassroots activism group, I think, to change this country than anybody…period.”
– Dr. James Lindsay [19:20]
Highlights Moms for Liberty’s rapid growth and their role in exposing educational “programs that were piloted in the Soviet Union…then Mao Zedong’s…Cultural Revolution, using our kids to be the basis of a revolution.” [20:43–22:07]
[33:04 - 42:10]
[43:47 - 49:34]
Microplastics now detected in “blood, in the liver and lungs, and even the brains of people.”
– Dr. Alejandro Diaz [44:05]
Scale of the problem: U.S. consumers ingest up to 121,000 plastic particles yearly (food, water, air).
Medical implications: Microplastics found in kidneys, thyroid, brain; linked to dementia and can “interfere with our gut, our brains, our lungs, our GI tract…”
[51:12 - 51:38]
Memphis child thanks President Trump for deploying the National Guard:
Bo Davidson responds emotionally:
“From this kid’s mouth to God’s ears, what a breath of fresh air for my hometown in Memphis, Tennessee.” [51:38]
Formal, unwavering, and activist in tone; language is passionate, direct, and focused on rights, liberty, “common sense,” and defending traditional family values. The guests and host use strong ideological terms (e.g., “Marxism,” “communism,” “the enemy,” “wokeism”) and express urgency about cultural and institutional threats.
This episode serves as both a rallying cry and a resource guide for parents, activists, and conservatives seeking to influence education, protect children, and push back against what is characterized as a broad Marxist or left-wing agenda in American society.