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Well, good evening everyone. Welcome to Stitchfield. Sadly, I knew that this day would come. I always did that I would have to start a show. Guys, telling you a lunatic assassinated one of my friends, well known conservative friends, simply for being a voice of reason. Simply for defending American values and reason. Today they shot Charlie Cook. Murdered him in front of thousands of college students. College students he dedicated a life of saving from leftist indoctrination. It could have been Dan Bongino, Benny Johnson, or even Steve Bannon. It could have been me or any of the other hosts here on rav. But today it was Charlie Kirk. Today it was Kirk. Yesterday it was President Trump. Who's tomorrow? I've sat on stage with Charlie Kirk too many times to count. I don't just consider him a friend and a colleague. I consider him an American hero and one of the most smartest, well schooled, men I know. Now he's gone, leaving behind a young, beautiful family. I pray for all of them. So it's no secret that Charlie died today doing what he loved.
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So do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
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Too many. Moments later, they would take his life. See, he was there debating young, confused students at Utah Valley University, changing a few hearts and minds along the way. That is, until that one lone shot rang out. The moment I saw the video, I knew that he could not be saved. Today, not only am I devastated for the Kirk family, for this country, but I am angry. Enraged, really. Left wing Marxist parading as pundits just as early as yesterday vilified Charlie as a racist. All but egging on would be shooters to take him out. CNN got their wish. Listen to me and listen to me carefully. Democrats no longer get to claim Republicans are the violent ones. The facts just do not support that fake news bullcrap anymore. Today's Democrat Party is the party of violence. And every single American who calls himself a Democrat ought to be embarrassed by and disgusted with the radicals who encourage these assassins. The reality is, sometimes I think they want a civil war. Civil war, folks, is the last thing I want. But if it ever comes, God bless them all. I've been trained not to ever say this, but I've always known it. So here it goes. I'm mad, folks, and I'm angry. And I hope they take notice. They don't stand a chance against us. So here's the real deal. Let's return this nation to peaceful discourse. Do you hear me, Democrats? And keep on track, making America great again. Thank you, Mr. President. And thank you, Charlie Kirk. Doing that is exactly what Charlie Kirk would have wanted. Now, I actually believe this may go far deeper than just some deranged leftist lunatic. It appears to me that after watching this video that was sent to me from people on the ground in Utah that there was a shooter on the roof. And Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, has announced there is a shooter in custody. Watch this video sent to me.
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Getting right up.
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Yeah, you think he'd already be in place.
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You would think that. So there's somebody on the roof right there.
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Just saying. He just ran from over.
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My finger from over there, ran in, and I was right there. Just saying.
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After what happened with President Trump and a shooter on the roof, people aren't speaking out that they saw someone running on the roof. There's this video. It's hard to see, but if you look real closely as the camera pans across, you'll see someone running on the roof. Roll that cut. I believe it's 31. Watch. Watch the roof very, very closely. You can see someone run on the roof. We've got a still frame of that picture. If you could throw that still frame up there of the guy on the roof. Very small to see, but he's there. Then to make me lose even more hope in Democrats in this country, our friend Lauren Boebert, the Republican congresswoman from Colorado, asks for a moment of prayers and silence on the floor of the House of Representatives. Watch how this goes down. What purpose is a gentle lady from Colorado rise? Let's, let's, let's. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
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No, no, you're not going to say prayers for Charlie Kirk. I'm telling you, folks, if there was a leftist pundit, fine. Take a moment of silence on the House floor for that leftist pundit. Have some respect for the other side. The left doesn't have any respect for the other side, which is why I have little respect for them. Now, this, of course, is the radical leaders. I'm not talking about every Democrat out there, but every Democrat out there ought to really take solace in the fact of what's going on with their party. And it's not really solace they should take. It's they should take embarrassment with what's going on with their party. I'm so angry right now, I really am. And it's hard to process this whole day. Charlie Kirk was a longtime friend of mine, as he was with most of the hosts on Real America's Voice, including my buddy John Solomon, who's been covering this all day today. John, in many respects, I apologize to ask you to come on tonight after you've been covering this all day long. I know Charlie was a friend of yours, but I'm grateful to have you on tonight. John, I really am.
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Thank you. I'm always grateful to be on your show, Grant. You do such a great job. We've all got a big loss in our life. There's a hole in our heart that's never going to be filled again. It's called Charlie Kirk. But I think you just hit on something that is so important we for most of our time could agree to disagree without firing bullets, without showing the obnoxiousness of what you just showed on the floor of the House. But we have a part of the country today that can't applaud for a cancer stricken young children who gets honored during a congressional speech because he might be associated with Donald Trump. We can't mourn the loss of a 31 year old dad who was just a good old fashioned American because he had conservative values. We can't salute police officers who do in the line of duty what they do. We have a group of people in America that are exhibiting the most downright un American, anti American traits I could imagine. They make some who ran the Soviet Union or the Chinese Gulags look like they're in our country. And until we get a grip on this, until we repudiate it, not with a day or a moment or an arrest, but until we repudiate it day in and day out, we're not going to get a grip on this. Almost a majority of young people, close to a majority of young people believe political violence is now justifiable. How in God's name did our school system produce that? And if we don't start speaking out every day, every hour, we are putting this country at risk. Just like the men and women who answered the war of World War II, answered the bell and went and fought tyranny and hatred and intolerance in Europe. Those who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq after 9 11. Our generation needs to have a response that is as powerful and as overwhelming as our prior generations delivered to intolerance. And I fear that we'll mourn Charlie Kirk for a few days and then we'll go back to accepting this insanity. It is time to lay down a gauntlet and say we're not going to tolerate this anymore. If you hate America, don't run for mayor of New York. If you salute terrorists, get out of the damn country and go join them somewhere else. But it's time to start punching back against this hatred intolerance. The speech is fine. The sentiments. We have to stop.
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Yeah John, we sure do. And as I think about what happened here, and I think About Charlie, and I think about visions of you sitting next to him at a CPAC event on a real America's Voice couch. This could have been any conservative commentator. They went after Charlie. He's one of the loudest, most powerful voices. Most. Most certainly. But I think they wanted to silence us. This is their goal. If they can't silence President Trump by killing him, they can't silence Charlie Kirk or John Solomon by killing them. Sorry, John. Then they want to just silence the others and make sure that we shut up. I'm not shutting up. I know you're not shutting up. This is only going to make us all louder, John.
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Yeah, that's right. Listen, we don't know yet whether this is a domestic political person, terrorist, or a foreigner. And I think that's a very important thing. I noticed the pause in the answer with law enforcement at the news conference when they asked if there's foreign intelligence. And there was a long pause before they said, we can't answer that question. We're going to keep an eye on who it is. But whoever did this was trying to sign a voice of freedom, a voice of liberty, a voice of Americanism, a voice of faith. And all of us who have our voices have got to stand up in unison and say, we ain't going to be coward by you cowards. And I think we're doing that tonight on this network. And you do it every day when you get behind that mic Grant and this great network has given such voice to Charlie and to Jack and to Steve and to all our great colleagues. And I know one thing about the lineup I'm involved in. There ain't nobody on this network that's leaving tomorrow saying, I'm afraid to come back on air and fight. And that makes me proud to be with all of you guys.
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Last question for you, John. And I'm just as proud to be with you. And this is a huge loss for Charlie's family. Of course, America, and of course, real America's voice with the time that he fills here and really part of a family. And we all are family on this irreplaceable. Yeah, you see the video that I showed that was sent to me of what appears to be someone on the roof? If it was someone on the roof, this tends to tell me that this was most likely well planned. It's more a difficult roof to get onto than where President Trump was, where the guy's walking around with a stepladder. And if it was well planned, then I worry it could be something foreign trying to Sow chaos in America and wanting to push us into civil war. Why we have to be very careful about this. I'll give you the last word on that, John.
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Yeah. What I told Steve at five o' clock, I think is turning out to be true. This shooter was at a higher altitude, aimed and was able to hit someone in the throat, which is very hard to do now. Might have been aiming for the head and got off. But there's also a think that he may have been aiming for the throat specifically because of Charlie's extraordinary voice. The person dressed in all dark clothes that matched the color of the roof to make them very hard to spot. They were in a parapet shooter's position when they fired the shot. There is some element of professionalism here. Now, doesn't mean it's a hired gunman, but someone who knew how to handle a weapon and knew how to handle an assassination, and that should trouble all of us. The good news is we believe we've caught this person in just a very short period of time, and I suspect that we are going to turn up every stone. Marlon Stutzman, the congressman from Indiana, just said on our show he's very concerned that there's a foreign element to this and that there's still an undiscussed foreign element in the Butler assassination of Donald Trump. And given that they were both potentially rooftop shooters, I think we need to do a lot of reporting in the next few days to get answers on this, but also keep pressing. We have not gotten the transparency the American public deserves on Butler, and I'm hoping we can press for that as part of this.
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Yeah, absolutely. Well, if there's anybody can do this kind of reporting, John Solomon, it is you. Thank you for coming on tonight and God bless you, too, John. I appreciate you coming on for sure, and the honor is most certainly mine. This is Congressman Wesley Hunt talking about this. Cut 19.
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And we have got to stop the violence that we are seeing ravaging this country. We have got to stop political violence.
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And Senator Kennedy is. Is exactly correct.
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The second heart into the second.
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The hate enters your heart to this.
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Extent, to where we are literally murdering.
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Our fellow Americans, means that we have.
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A serious problem in this country. And at the end of the day, no matter how you feel, no matter what your thoughts are, if we can't disagree without trying to murder each other, then by God, this is not the America that I fought for.
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Put very, very well there. Now, there were literally thousands of people there. One of those people is running to be the next governor of Utah as a Republican, of course. His name is Phil Lyman. He's been on the program before. Phil, welcome back to the show. We welcome you to the program.
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Hey, Grant, it's good to see you. Thank you.
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Yeah. I appreciate you doing this on such short notice. Why don't you tell me where you were, what you heard, and your thoughts. Now, being able to assess this just a few hours after an assassin took the life of Charlie Kirk.
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Yeah, I mean, it's been such a whirlwind. I drove up this morning to Orem and got there, went down and met Charlie as he arrived, and we spoke for a few minutes back behind, and the crowd was crazy. And it's a bunch of college students, and it was really exciting and I appreciated the chance to just take a second with Charlie and tell him thanks for coming to Utah. Um, then I went out and as he was throwing hats and stuff, there was a young man there was handicapped, and I. And I motioned to Charlie and said, hey, over here. And he brought a hat over and handed it directly to him.
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And it warmed my heart. And I just watched and I just watched the. Just the good man that he is and his energy and he's connecting with those kids. And. And then after he started speaking, I thought first I needed to meet a couple of other people. So I went up top, and as I went clear up to the, you know, top up on the balcony there, and I was kind of walking, I thought, okay, I'm gonna go into the building. I was trying to get some video of Charlie up there too, but I'm gonna go into the building and see if they're in here. As soon as I went through the door, I heard this loud bang. And I turned around and looked at the person who was standing outside the door, because I thought it came from. From there, like 10ft away. And. And she was looking a little confused too. And everybody's kind of looking around. And then I saw some commotion and people started running into the building. So I ran out thinking I. I am very, very close to where this happened. And. And my only. My only conclusion after looking around is that the person I, I determined had to be on the roof right above us. Because. Because just was not very. Just there was nothing else that made sense. And I couldn't picture someone in that crowd being able to pull out a high powered rifle and make a kill shot, you know, a single shot. And as I learned the. The details of that, and I thought that that person's on the roof and this was this Was. This was not settling in our argument. This was not, this was not a disgruntled attendee. This was, this was, this was somebody who, who knew how to assassinate a person and they did it. So I think, I think the idea that foreign entities are involved would be much more plausible than that. It was a hate, you know, somebody that hates Charlie Kirk's. The way he challenges people's beliefs.
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Yeah. You know, when I saw, and I'm not showing the video of Charlie's moment that he died, it's just too graphic for TV and nobody should have to look at it if they don't want to. And I'm not going to force it on people watching this here. But when I saw it as a gun guy working for the National Rifle association, being around guns a long time, I knew it was a high powered rifle because the way it took out Charlie's name, neck and the damage it did instantly, there was no way that was a 9 millimeter handgun. And it sounded like it came from, from a ways from where the video that I saw. So it, it makes sense. I'm glad they are in custody. That is a good thing. After you went down and out of the building, were you in amongst the students? And maybe just real quick for me, if you can explain to me how the students were reacting to all of this.
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Well, so I ran down, I ran back down to the front of the, the place where the, where the college students, the, the volunteers that were helping to put this together and, and just to confirm, you know, what did, what, what did you see? And they were telling, and they were all just distraught and telling me about the shot to the neck and the, and the, and the blood and the, you know, just how horrible that is. And so, and then I, and then I ran into one of Charlie Kirk's folks who, who said that they thought they had apprehended the, the shooter. We found out later that was not the case. Yeah, but yeah, very, very sad. Very, very sad. And then going out to the, to the, you know, just with the people out in the front of the parking lot and stuff, just, just a real feeling of sadness. I have family that live right next door. So I went over to, to my family, some, some of my relatives home where I parked my car and we were in, talking about this and, and then we look out the back and there's a lot of military style people in the yard, like right in the backyard, circling the house, looking at the bushes.
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And so the response is very big. And there was, there was law Enforcement on scene right away. And I know he had security there, did everything they could do to try to save him. Phil Lyman, I appreciate you coming on the program tonight. Good luck with your race for governor in Utah, and thank you, sir.
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Well, that was actually 2024. We'll see what's happening in 2028, but yeah, thank you, Grant. Appreciate it.
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Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, Phil. All right. You know, I just wanted to say something about Charlie. I've known him for probably a decade. We didn't always agree on everything. In fact, I was just having an argument with my son about making him go to college. And he says, dad, Charlie says I don't need to go to college. These are the kind of conversations that Charlie invoked in households across America. I'm grateful for him for that. I want to show you this clip, number 16 of him and his family. And really what Charlie was all about, and that was family. It was so important to him and saving America. Well, I would say you need to.
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You are tasked to protect them both.
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Physically, spiritually, and emotionally and really outside.
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The house and obviously in other ways as well.
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Quality time is everything. You are not above any of the duties or the tasks or the roles. And it comes with a lot of responsibilities. Well, it's so true. And I'm struck by those words because we couldn't protect him. And I hope whoever did this, apparently he's in custody, gets. Gets to meet his maker some point soon. I want to bring in now my co host out on the Morning answer on AM870 in Los Angeles. Jennifer Horn is with us. She knew Charlie as well. Jen, you and I did many events with Charlie. He's a Salem Radio colleague. Of course. He's a real America's Voice colleague of mine here. I just have to ask you, you know, you knew him well, your thoughts now that this man is actually dead?
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I am still kind of in shock. I am sad, I am angry. I'm disgusted. You know what? Charlie Kirk was. And we knew very well. I mean, actually, the funny story, Grant, you and I have been doing radio together for the last, what, five years now. But before you came to the station, they actually had Charlie Kirk sitting in your chair. And we co hosted the Morning Answer together. And during that time, I got to really see Charlie for really the person that he was. And I think what always struck me about him was he had this innocence, but he was so intelligent at the same time. And he always had this real curiosity to try to figure out how other people were thinking. And it just struck me today that he's doing what we should all be doing. He was a happy warrior who was a husband, who was a man of faith, and who was unafraid to just talk to people and have civil discourse. And yet that made him a target for someone, some lunatic, some paid assassin who knows who this guy is. But that made him a target. And we talk about loving free speech and we talk about having open dialogue and we talk about all of those things. And someone hated him enough. This good man, who you may have disagreed with his politics. I'm not saying I agreed with 100% of the stuff that Charlie Kirk would say, but he was happy to have a conversation with you about it. He never got angry. He was very smart, whip smart, of course. And he could have these debates with you, but he wasn't the guy that was angry or throwing stones at other people. He would actually have a civil conversation. And for that, he was a target. And I am so sickened today by the Tim Wallses of the world who were laughing about Donald Trump being dead. And I'm sick of the late night comics. And I think that we need to make sure that it's Charlie's legacy. We start doing better as a country and dial it down because you're getting, you're keying people into thinking that this is somehow making them a hero to take away these two babies. Dad. For the rest of their lives. I hope that's the legacy of Charlie Kirk, is to bring us back together again in some way.
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You know, I will tell you, it's made me take an assessment of who I am surrounded by and having John Solomon on first, a terrific friend of mine, just a fabulous guy, you. And getting to work with you. Today is one of the first days, I'll tell you. I've been mostly at a loss for words. I don't know what to say anymore. I mean, and anger has basically taken over my emotions and it's been really, really difficult. So I'm grateful you're able to come on. You know, you talked about the left, and this is what makes me so angry. Real quick, if you can play MSNBC's Katie Turr instead of just taking a step back for a moment. This is how they talk about Charlie Kirk on the day he died.
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Charlie Kirk is a divisive figure, polarizing lightning rod, whatever term you want to use. Why?
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Well, he's one of maga's most prominent voices online. He hosts a near daily podcast Divisive, polarizing. The New York Times headline called him a right wing activist. Right wing. And he can't be a conservative influencer. I mean, this is how polarized we are as a nation. Jen. Something has got to change. Otherwise, Charlie Kirk is not going to be the last. They're going to come for more of us, I promise you. And it's not gonna end well.
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A story you may not have heard yet. Is that the Reagan Library, which is just up the street, up the road from our. From our radio ranch here in Los Angeles. They canceled Ben Shapiro's event tonight. I don't know if it was Ben. I know that he was friends with Charlie Kirk. If there was a security risk, I mean, this is terrorism at its core. The goal of the left is to try to shut down strong, conservative voices. And so today I say to you, do not be quiet. Don't be afraid. Continue the legacy of Charlie Kirk. Don't let his death be in vain. And let us continue to speak the truth and continue to fight. And that's the only thing we can do to honor him. I was talking to Michael Reagan today and he said, you know, this is going to be our generation's Robert Kennedy. And I think he's right. Except more powerful, perhaps.
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Amen to that. Look, I'm sure it's out of Ben Shapiro's hands. There's no way you'd get me to cancel an event because that means they silenced us. That means. Means they won. And so it's a. It's a tragedy that they canceled that event. They should have gone on with it, in my humble opinion, and added more security and did whatever they could do to secure it. But this was the very day where we need to show them that we will not be silenced. Jennifer Horn, thank you, as always. I will talk to you and see you in the morning on AM870 out in Los Angeles, 9 to 12 Eastern Time. You can find us on Rumble. Besides the radio, 6 to 9 LA. All right, we are keeping an eye on this. We'll hear an FBI agent's perspective on how the investigation will move forward. Now.
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Well, folks, we continue to cover the death of my friend Charlie Kirk. He was a colleague and he was a special guy. And truthfully, this man was an American hero murdered by an assassin, quite possibly on a rooftop. It looks like there's a lot of evidence pointing in that direction. And so if this is the case, I believe this may go far, further than just some deranged leftist lunatic. This could have been plotted and planned out. I've got the deep state I want investigated. I've got CIA ties I want investigated. I've got Chinese CCP ties that I want investigated. All of these things are in my mind if I'm an investigator. No one is ruled out as a suspect until I can rule them out. Do you hear me? No one, no entity, no foreign enemy, no leftist lunatic. They are all in my circle until we can rule each one out one by one. This was the video that I had gotten just moments before the show of someone spotting someone on a roof. Let's roll that.
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Get right up. Yeah.
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You think he'd already be in place?
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You would think that. So there's somebody on the roof right there. Just saying he just ran from over.
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Where's my finger? Well, from over there, ran in, and.
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I was right there. Just saying.
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It'S not an easy roof to get on. You don't use a step ladder like they did in Butler, Pennsylvania. So where does the FBI go from here? They say they have a suspect in custody. That's a good thing I want to bring in now to discuss former FBI special agent and counterterrorism expert John Guandolo is with us. John, welcome back to the show.
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Thanks very much. Thanks for having me.
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All right, John, I know it's early and I know speculation is never great, but what do you make of this from an FBI perspective? From an investigatory perspective, where do you go from here?
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Well, so there are, you know, basic investigative techniques that are going to be followed by. And the investigators on the ground are obviously going to be canvassing for witnesses, canvassing all the videos and all that to nail down the suspect. But if I might, I'd like to back out a little bit and say my concern is what it's been for a long, long time is that in the FBI and certainly in state and local law enforcement, there is no understanding of how to put an event like this into the broader war that America is engaged in. And that makes the investigative process very difficult because things that would be reasonable, facts that go towards reasonable suspicion and probable cause are not even being considered and avenues are not being pursued because of the lack of understanding. And if I might just for 30 seconds, take a dig down a little bit. America's engaged in a real war and we use all kinds of things to words and phrases to define it. But there is an identifiable communist movement and an identifiable Islamic movement that are working at the ground level across the United States. Now this is going on elsewhere, like in Europe as well. But we know who these entities are. We know who the organizations are. We, we know the, you know, the way they do propaganda, the way they communicate. And I just put something out a few days ago on social media that this month, right now, the, a huge number of communist and jihadi organizations are hosting almost every day during September strategic meetings to talk about how and when to go kinetic, like mass operations inside the United States. And these are the kinds of things that precede those things. And the shooting at the Minneapolis Catholic School is also potentially one of those cascading events. But if you don't know any of that and you don't understand these movements and the organizations that are part of these identifiable movements, as a matter of fact and evidence, then this is just some guy who's a quote, unquote conservative, you know, hack gets shot on a college campus and it's only a murder investigation and it ends there. So the things you brought up at the beginning that might actually have a play in this, we, we don't even look there because we have no idea what this is.
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All right, Certainly the FBI has gone one direction. Cash Patel and Dan Bongino trying to bring it back. They focused on right wing extremism as the greatest threat to this nation, which was a ridiculous thing to focus on. Took up a lot of agents time.
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So I believe that if you were.
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To kill someone like Charlie Kirk, a possible Motivation would be, if you were an Islamic terrorist, to sow chaos in the United States, that we see what happened on the House floor when Lauren Boebert asked for prayers for Charlie Kirk and you got Democrats booing and saying no. People on the street or at their offices arguing with each other over something like this. Do they want to spark a civil war for us, whether it's jihadists, whether it's the Communist Party of China? Could that be a possibility here? It sounds to me like what you're telling me is the answer is yes.
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No, the answer is absolutely yes. The communists, I mean, we look at, you know, just rewind five years the. I've run into a lot of people smart, I would call them patriotic people that are not aware BLM was created by the largest Chinese communist front group in the United States. It never was anything but that. And these other organizations, these other communist organizations like Answer and Code Pink and Unity of Fields, a Hamas organization that works directly with these national communist groups, the dsa, Communist Party usa, Revcom. I mean, it's endless. And at the ground level, they're working together. Yes. I guarantee you, Charlie Kirk, much like the operation in Butler, Pennsylvania, these are not, quote unquote, lone wolves. These are coordinated operations. We know that at the international level, these things are being coordinated to the point in both of these movements. Well, let me, let me put it this way for your audience. It might even be the simplest way is what's going on in the United States are hostile. Foreign powers like China, like Iran, like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey are using these networks that they control in the United States to run these operations. So we keep treating this like it's a one off, like these are wing nuts, like Democrats are just crazy and they're incompetent. They're not. They're very well organized. And the Democrat leadership is the leading edge of this communist movement. So the fact that this is not merely politics, this is a war.
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Here's what I take solace in. The Cash Patel is at the helm. If anybody knows that this could be a possibility. Cash Patel and Dan Bongino do. You may have some other agents in there that are oblivious to it all, but those two guys do know that. And I hope they listen to what you're saying because I do think this is really all a strong possibility that needs to be vetted out. John Guandolo, thank you for your service this country as a former FBI agent and certainly thank you for coming on the program tonight.
H
Thanks for having me on Grant.
A
Absolutely. I mean, that's absolutely chilling, folks, when you think about it. And you know that they're going to want you to think, all right, right, it's a leftist lunatic. And it may be, but it could be far deeper than that. You know, he, he named CCP and jihadists Chinese Communist Party jihadists. Deep State do not rule them out either. They are so angry with President Trump. They want chaos from all of us. And certainly if you want chaos, killing Charlie Kirk is a good way to cause it really is. All right, we'll be back. Up next, we're going to talk about a little bit about something Charlie Kirk would want us talking about, and that is that young lady killed in North Carolina.
B
Greetings, naturopathy. Dr. Dennis Black here, founder of Rough Greens. And if only dogs could talk, I think a lot of them would say, hey, thanks for the love, but this food, it's not working for me. The truth is they'd be right. Because most dog food, wet or dry, is cooked at such high temperatures that every live nutrient in it is destroyed. And what you're left with is dead food bulked up with fillers and sprayed with artificial flavors. That's not what dogs need. But when you add back in the live vitamins, omega oils and antioxidants are in rough greens. Your dog would say something different. Like they'd say, wow, this is delicious. Or sluggish. Dogs might say, hey, let's go for a walk. Older dogs might say, I feel like a puppy again. It's not magic, it's biology. Don't just imagine it, see it in your dog. I'll send you a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog. You just cover the shipping. Go to rough greens.com use discount code talk. That's Ruff Greens discount code talk. If your dog could only talk, they'd say, thank you.
A
Welcome back, everyone. I'll tell you what, Charlie Kirk would want us still talking about Irina, the young lady killed in North Carolina. Irene is a rootska on your screen right there. Killed by a deranged animal 14 times, arrested four time felon. Well, apparently he was recorded by his own family saying this from inside jail after being arrested for the murder of that beautiful young lady. Listen, the material used my body established.
F
And so she just got stabbed.
A
Yeah.
F
You know, that's not me I'm.
A
Talking about just for no reason. But since they did that, since they did that, now they gotta investigate the material my body exposed to. Since they want to do all that.
F
Now they gotta investigate.
A
The material in his body killed her it wasn't me. It was the material in my body. Clearly mentally ill. Unless he's faking it. Either way, I really don't care. I want him to have the death penalty. I really do. Many say, oh, let him rot in prison. It's worse punishment. Let him go meet God. Run the next clip of him.
F
She's from the Ukraine. She's from Russia.
A
And you know, they got a war.
G
They had a war going on against the United States. So I'm just trying to understand, out.
F
Of all people, watch her.
A
That's. Hey, it ain't. I don't have nothing. I. Hey. They just lashed out on her. That's that. That's what happened. They lashed out on her. Who was working.
F
Who was working the material?
A
Who was. Whoever was working the material they lasted on. He's deranged. The material in his body, all right? No secret that he was deranged. You know who else is deranged? This judge Stokes, who let him go. I call her a judge. She doesn't even have a law degree. Do you believe you can have a judge in a city like Charlotte, North Carolina, with no law degree appointed by a diversity, equity and inclusion clerk? Apparently, this is Congressman Mark Harris. Well, these magistrates, as I understand, are somewhat appointed. I mean, she's not even elected. She's appointed, if I understand correct correctly, by a clerk. And I think you've got to just follow. Follow the line and look from. From there to the clerk that appointed her. I assume that clerk has the responsibility for the individuals that she appoints to serve as these magistrates. And again, where. Where did the breakdown occur? The breakdown occurred the moment she was appointed. And this is a real problem with all of these judges I want to bring in now to discuss this former U.S. navy JAG officer, former special assistant to United States Attorney, and 2026 Republican Senate candidate for North Carolina. Don Brown is with us. Don, it's great to have you back on the program, Brian.
F
Thanks for having me. I've got a little air traffic in the background. I hope it's not too bad. It's a hard day. I didn't know Charlie that well. I just spent some time with him to left us think that Charlie Kirk's death is going to slow us down. We're coming at you harder than ever. We're going to draw upon his life, and I just. I'm praying for his wife and his kids tonight. And it's a hard day for us. We're gonna. We're gonna come out stronger. We're gonna dedicate our work to him.
A
Yeah, I agree with you 100%. We're not gonna let this silence us. I will ask you this. You're in North Carolina. How does a woman who doesn't have a law degree become a judge?
F
Well, the. It is a flaw in the legal system. In North Carolina, these magistrates are appointed for political reasons. As my friend Mark Harris pointed out. They're not elected like regular district court or superior court judges or even court of appeals and supreme court judges are in North Carolina. They're not. They're not appointed by the legislature. It is a political plum job. And obviously, this particular magistrate is highly incompetent. And this individual, this murderer, this thug had been, you know, revolt on a revolving door release 14 times. This is a big problem. North Carolina has the death penalty, but no execution has been carried out since 2006. That is a travesty. We got to get out of carrying out these executions swiftly and publicly. And the city of Charlotte is to blame a lot here, too. Grant, I have to tell you, this light rail system has become a cesspool and a magnet for criminals and thugs. When it was put in back when Pat McCrory, the Republican mayor, when I moved to the Charlotte area In the early mid-90s, there was a 6 to 5 Republican majority on the city council. That's going to hell in a hand basket. Now the Democrats have taken police officers off this light rail. There aren't security officers. You know, you have thugs getting on the light rail in downtown and come out suburbia. And I've called on President Trump and I'll do this again, Mr. President, send the National Guard in to stabilize this cesspool of a Charlotte light rail. Put a soldier on every train. If Charlotte cannot get its act together and man those cars as police officers, within the next 60 days, it should be shut down. We got to protect our people and we got to get tough on crime. We can't put up with this bull type of situation. We have political appointees who don't know what they're doing serving as magistrates.
A
Well, I'll tell you what. President Trump and the National Guard will have their work cut out for because it's not just Charlotte, North Carolina. It's probably the top 25 blue cities across America. Need the National Guard called in. And notice I said they're all blue cities. Don Brown, I wish you the best of luck in your race for the Senate in North Carolina. Thank you for coming on tonight.
F
Thank you, Grant. We appreciate you. God bless. Hanging there, brother.
A
Absolutely. You too. Sir, and we appreciate you coming on again. You know, I watched seven minutes of this video of her being killed. It did take bystanders a minute and 20 seconds roughly to render her aid. I don't think it was that they didn't want to help her. I think they didn't understand what had happened. It was virtually silent. The way he stabbed her and slit her throat. Very, very sad. All right, up next, real America's Voice, White House correspondent Brian Glenn with his reaction to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
B
Greetings, naturopathy. Dr. Dennis Black here, founder of Ref Greens. And if only dogs could talk, I think a lot of them would say, hey, thanks for the love, but this food, it's not working for me. The truth is they'd be right. Because most dog food, wet or dry, is cooked at such high temperatures that every live nutrient in it is destroyed. And what you're left with is dead food bulked up with fillers and sprayed with artificial flavors. That's not what dogs need. But when you add back in the live vitamins, omega oils and antioxidants are in rough greens. Your dog would say something different. Like they'd say, wow, this is delicious. Or sluggish dogs might say, hey, let's go for a walk. Older dogs might say, I feel like a puppy again. It's not magic, it's biology. Don't just imagine it, see it in your dog. I'll send you a free jump start trial bag for your dog. You just cover the shipping. Go to roughgreens.com use discount code talk. That's Ruff Greens discount code talk. If your dog could only talk, they'd say thank you.
A
You know folks, I think I'm a lot like all of you when it comes to the death of Charlie Kirk. Now the assassination, I'm gutted, I really am. I'm at a loss for worse tonight. I'm not on my game. I apologize for that, I really do. But I want to send a message to those on the left. I don't know if this was a left wing lunatic killed him. It could have been a foreign entity. It could have been deep state ccp, I don't know. But I do know this leftist so called pundits encourage this crap. Just yesterday CNN was vilifying Charlie Kirk as a racist, all but encouraging and egging on leftists to take him out. This is Van Jones. He ought to be ashamed of himself. And for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence of that, it's just pure race mongering, hate mongering. It's wrong. Then he says that if something like that had happened the other way, there'd be sweeping changes imposed on society. Where is the George Floyd Policing Act? It didn't pass even when you had a white police officer murder. He's mad because what Charlie said is, is true. Yes. That kind of rhetoric, calling people names like racist. I know Charlie personally. He's not a racist, I can tell you that much. I want to bring in now someone else who knows him very well. Rav, chief White House correspondent, my other friend, Brian Glenn. Brian, welcome to the program.
C
Thanks, Grant.
A
Brian, I can't help but notice you were in Butler when President and Trump nearly lost his life. Now we got Charlie Kirk. This could have been anyone. I just wondered how you're processing this.
D
Well, like, like others that have been following this story since it happened. I mean, our hearts are broken. There is no mistaken about that. I was on a flight coming back from Chicago with Attorney General Pam Bondi and RFK Jr. As they had a story about raiding a Chinese vape manufacturing plant when I got the news of that Charlie was shot. I am not only in my heartbroken, but Grant, I got to be honest with you, I'm not surprised because you see how toxic the left is towards conservatives, towards President Trump, towards Republicans in general. And I agree with you. We don't really know who was behind this assassination. But regardless of who it is, there's one thing that's clear. Charlie Kirk preached the gospel to youth, to young Americans, the youth of our country. He preached peace, love, compassion. He did it in a very articulate way that people would understand it and they don't want that. So whoever's behind this assassination truly does not like this country. They aren't a follower of Jesus and they simply want to eradicate us from this whole conversation. And I don't think, to be honest with you, and I walk past all of these people in front of the White House almost every day. They don't want a conversation, Grant. They want to shut you down. They want to shut you up. And I think Greg Gutfield on the Five earlier today said it best and I'm not going to drop the F bomb. But if they think that this is going to make us go away, they got another thing coming. We're going to be stronger after this. And God bless Charlie Kirk's family. Two kids. It's just heartbreaking.
A
It's just.
D
It really is, Grant.
A
Yeah, it really is. I don't think it's going to silence anybody out there. And I'll tell you, I try to put myself in the other side's shoes often to see how I would react compared to them if this was reversed and a left wing pundit was killed, they would be wishing it's a make America great again person wearing a red hat. You know, I mean this from the bottom of my heart, Brian, and I'm not hoping it's anybody, whether it's a jihadist, whether it's a left wing Kamala Harris supporter, whether it I just want them caught. I'm not hoping it's anybody. They hope because they always want the story and I'm sick of them wanting the story at the expense of people's lives. And they're willing to take people's lives, I think in many times and encourage people to take lives for the story. And I give you the last word.
D
I agree with you. And I'm still got questions on Thomas Crooks who attempted to shoot President Trump. I've got questions across the board in regards to this and I'm with you regardless who it is. I want accountability. But let's just put every conservative, every influencer, every TV host, anybody that's in this MAGA movement that's in a public eye, put your head on a swivel and protect yourself.
A
Yeah. You know the saddest part of all this, and I was talking about this, Brian, is even if Charlie had his head on a swivel, even if he was carrying a firearm, he wouldn't have seen it coming. I mean, if they're going to come and get you, they're going to come and get you as what happened to President Trump. He had God's hand on him. Charlie has God's hand on him now. And that I know now. Ryan, Glenn, thank you, my friend. It's always good to see you, Grant.
D
God bless. Thank you.
A
Absolutely. All right, folks, final thoughts on all of this. Just a horrible day in the conservative world. It really is. We're back in a flash. Welcome back, everyone. Sad day. I don't need to tell you that. My New York Yankees, I'm proud of them. Look what they did tonight. It's a quick video, but Charlie Kirk on the Jumbotron, 31 years old. And then President Trump truthed out this today. In honor of Charlie Kirk, a truly great American patriot, I am ordering all American flags throughout the United States lowered to half mast until Sunday evening at 6pm I'll tell you what, I still can't believe that I'm not going to see Charlie. I'm not going to talk to him, do an event with him, sit on. On a stage with him again, go on his program him, come on mine. It is a. It is a tough day, to say the least, but we move forward because that's what we do. We're Americans and we'll stay tough and we pray for his family. Stitchfield's army rolls. See you tomorrow. This is an iHeart podcast.
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Grant Stinchfield
Date: September 11, 2025
Episode Theme:
A raw, urgent broadcast in the immediate aftermath of the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Host Grant Stinchfield and his guests react to the event, reflect on Kirk’s legacy, and discuss concerns about escalating political violence and its implications for free speech, national security, and the future of American discourse.
This episode is dedicated to the shocking and tragic news that Charlie Kirk was assassinated during a student event at Utah Valley University. Stinchfield, deeply affected both personally and professionally, anchors the evening with guests offering personal memories, political analysis, and grave warnings about the state of political discourse. Questions swirl around the attacker’s identity, possible political or foreign connections, and the chilling precedent for other conservative voices.
“I always knew that I would have to start a show, guys, telling you a lunatic assassinated one of my friends, well known conservative friends, simply for being a voice of reason ... Today they shot Charlie Kirk. Murdered him in front of thousands of college students.” (A, 02:25)
“Democrats no longer get to claim Republicans are the violent ones. The facts just do not support that fake news bullcrap anymore.” (A, 04:14)
“If there was a leftist pundit, fine. Take a moment of silence... Have some respect for the other side. The left doesn't have any respect for the other side, which is why I have little respect for them.”
“We have a group of people in America that are exhibiting the most downright un American, anti American traits I could imagine ... until we repudiate it, not with a day or a moment or an arrest, but... day in and day out, we’re not going to get a grip on this.” (C, 09:54)
“Whoever did this was trying to sign a voice of freedom, a voice of liberty, a voice of Americanism, a voice of faith. And all of us who have our voices have got to stand up in unison and say, we ain’t going to be coward by you cowards.” (C, 12:49)
“If we can’t disagree without trying to murder each other, then by God, this is not the America that I fought for.” (F, 15:44)
“This was not a disgruntled attendee. This was... somebody who knew how to assassinate a person, and they did it.” (E, 17:44)
“Quality time is everything. You are not above any of the duties or the tasks or the roles. And it comes with a lot of responsibilities.” (F & A, 21:49)
“He was a happy warrior who was a husband, who was a man of faith, and who was unafraid to just talk to people and have civil discourse. And yet that made him a target for someone, some lunatic, some paid assassin, who knows who this guy is. But that made him a target.” (G, 23:16)
“Do not be quiet. Don’t be afraid. Continue the legacy of Charlie Kirk. Don’t let his death be in vain. And let us continue to speak the truth and continue to fight.” (G, 26:08)
“These are not, quote unquote, lone wolves. These are coordinated operations. ... Hostile foreign powers like China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, ... Turkey are using these networks that they control in the United States to run these operations.” (H, 35:03)
“He preached peace, love, compassion. He did it in a very articulate way that people would understand it and they don't want that. So whoever's behind this assassination truly does not like this country.” (D, 48:28)
“If they’re going to come and get you, they’re going to come and get you.” (A, 51:21)
“Today they shot Charlie Kirk. Murdered him in front of thousands of college students.”
— Grant Stinchfield (02:25)
“Democrats no longer get to claim Republicans are the violent ones. The facts just do not support that fake news bullcrap anymore.”
— Grant Stinchfield (04:14)
“There is a hole in our heart that’s never going to be filled again. It’s called Charlie Kirk.”
— John Solomon (09:13)
“If we can’t disagree without trying to murder each other, then by God, this is not the America that I fought for.”
— Rep. Wesley Hunt (15:44)
“This was not settling in our argument. This was not, this was not a disgruntled attendee. This was, this was, this was somebody who knew how to assassinate a person and they did it.”
— Phil Lyman (17:44)
“He was a happy warrior ... unafraid to just talk to people and have civil discourse. And yet that made him a target for someone.”
— Jennifer Horn (23:43)
“Whoever did this was trying to sign a voice of freedom, ... we ain’t going to be coward by you cowards.”
— John Solomon (12:49)
“These are not, quote unquote, lone wolves. These are coordinated operations ... Hostile foreign powers like China...are using these networks ... to run these operations.”
— John Guandolo (35:03)
“We’re not going to let this silence us. ... We're gonna draw upon his life ... we're gonna dedicate our work to him.”
— Don Brown (41:49)
“If they’re going to come and get you, they’re going to come and get you ... He had God’s hand on him. Charlie has God’s hand on him now. And that I know.”
— Grant Stinchfield (51:21)
The tone throughout is impassioned, angry, grieving, and at times conspiratorial. Both host and guests oscillate between calls for unity, prayers for Kirk’s family, and fierce denunciations of the left, media, and even elements of the federal government. Their language is urgent, direct, and unfiltered, consistent with the Real America’s Voice brand and its conservative audience.
This extraordinary, somber episode of Stinchfield Tonight captures the conservative movement in a moment of both vulnerability and defiance. The assassination of Charlie Kirk is presented not only as a personal tragedy, but also as a test for free speech, civil discourse, and the future of American politics. With recurring calls to resist intimidation, continue Kirk’s legacy, and demand accountability, the episode leaves listeners with a sense of shock, sorrow, but above all, resolve.