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And apparently Vice President J.D. vance will be traveling with Charlie Kirk to bring his body back home to his family. We're also getting a lot of movement when it comes to the investigation to who carried out this assassination on an American hero. This is the picture of who the FBI says is the suspect. They are offering a $100,000 reward for information into this suspect. CBS News is reporting that the FBI actually has a name to this individual. When you look at the picture here, certainly his mother would recognize him. Certainly your best friend, a family member, a co worker, would recognize him from these photos. It shouldn't take long to track him down. We're also learning that investigators found this bolt action 30 odd 6 hunting rifle with a scope on it. Now, the shot was taken from about 200 yards. And let me be clear on this, it would take someone not highly trained to make this shot. Someone that has been to the range a few times could make this shot from 200 yards. It's not overly special. I believe he was aiming for the head and I believe the shot dropped, ultimately hitting Charlie Kirk in the neck. Now we're also getting word from my buddy, Steven Crowder, the great conservative, influencer, podcaster. He got an inside memo from Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms that says the casings that were inside the gun, quote, the spent cartridge was still chambered. In addition to three unspent rounds at the top of the magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and antifascist ideology. Now, if we go back to the picture, if we can, guys, of this suspect, the picture. If we go back to the picture of the suspect, to me, he doesn't look trans. He actually looks, in my opinion, maybe military of some kind. The way he's carrying himself, the look on his face, it's just intuition. It tells me this. I don't know if if that's correct or not. Now, if this was a diversion, the transgender writings, certainly if there was a foreign entity involved, a subversive group in America involved, you might write transgender ideology on the shell casings to send law enforcement in the wrong Direction. That's a possibility. I'm hopeful we will learn soon. As law enforcement says they are on the case and actively very hot on the case to finding this suspect. You want to see how CNN described the transgender ideology? Look at this. This is from cnn. Quote, sources say phrases related to cultural issues were found scrawled on a rifle and ammunition, but it is not yet clear if they point to a motive. It is a cultural issues. This story was flying around the Internet. It was clearly transgender ideology. But again, I'm not ruling out the possibility of a diversion there. As we see rapid developments in this case, I can tell you there is surveillance video that has been very helpful to law enforcement here. Surveillance video from the school, the university, and surveillance video from certain homes in the neighborhood. Listen to the commissioner of the Utah State police. Starting at 11:52am the subject arrived on campus, shortly away from campus. We have tracked his movements onto the campus through the stairwells, up to the roof, across the roof to a shooting location. After the shooting, we were able to track his movements as he moved to the other side of the building, jump off of the building and fled off of the campus and into a neighborhood that most definitely is where they got these images of him from, which are very, very helpful. Now, one of the reasons why I believe this guy knew what he was doing, some people have said he made a lot of mistakes. He dumped the gun in the wooded area behind the university, then disappeared into the neighborhood. I think he was pretty skilled at getting away here because he, he went poof. One of the reasons why this may have been easy for him to go poof is because of this, says FBI agent James Gagliano, is if you come off that roof and I've seen the drone footage of this, there's an open air parking lot behind that building. It's spitting distance from I15. I15 is a major artery, a major thoroughfare there. So this is a big concern because this person, within three to five minutes of that shot going off could have been in a vehicle on his way out and miles and miles away. Provo airport's only about 45 minutes from there. A lot of talk that he may have escaped in an airplane. Whether it's public or private, still yet to be determined. We'll talk about this a little bit. I just want to show you right now happening on your screen. President Trump is at Yankee Stadium. He is there in honor of the 911 victims and their families. You know, the New York Yankees. I was in New York on 911 played such a Huge role in healing this country as the Yankees, you know, New York's team put on such a show that year in 2001, and President Trump, as you see there on your screen at Yankee Stadium. All right, getting back to now, the investigation into all of this, into Charlie Kirk's assassination. I want to bring in now former FBI special agent and author of A Cop Son. Our good friend Kenneth Strange is back with us. Kenneth, welcome to the program. Thank you, Grant. Nice to be here. Kenneth, any leads that you can talk about? Are your fellow FBI agents that are still in the agency telling you anything that you can report on to us about where this investigation is headed? Grant? I'm afraid not. They haven't been in touch with me, and I'm assuming they're keeping everything close to the vest. I'm encouraged. You know, I saw some, you know, we have the photographs, two photographs of the shooter within 24 hours. And, you know, there's a whole, you know, the rifle and there's some other things that they've collected. So I'm encouraged by the progress of this investigation. When you look at the. Now, we'll call them facts surrounding this, whether it's the picture of the alleged suspect, the rifle that you see on your screen, ditching the rifle in the. In the woods there. Then, of course, you have the scrawlings of the transgender ideology on the shell casings. What do you make of all of this? Do you believe that the scrollings are correct? Is it a possibility? It could be a ruse to send investigators in another direction? Do you think this was a professional. Lay it out for me, Kenne. Yeah, Grant, you know, I think it's. It is what it is the possibility that it's a diversion. Yes, of course, that's something you'll have to take into consideration, but I think, you know, it seems pretty. Pretty straightforward at this point. You know, the rifle, the engraving of the, you know, transgender ideology on the bullets. So, yeah, I think this is what it is. Do you think this was a professional? Now, that's a good question, because, you know, you mentioned that a shot from 100 to 200 yards is a possibility for, you know, people that are at the range from time to time. I think that this was an individual who was, you know, stewing in his, you know, marinating in his rage against Charlie Kirk. And I think he's the guy. This is the guy who pulled the trigger. He may have some hunting experience. I'm not so sure about the military. I'm looking at his body. It's Very thin, almost frail. So I'm not so sure about that. But again, I like what I'm seeing. I like the progress in this case. And I wouldn't be surprised within another 24 hours that we have this guy. All right, let me play a clip from you. Last night, John Guandolo, another former FBI agent, was on the program. He raised the issue that we should be at least looking at the possibility that some subversive group could be behind this than just the deranged left wing lunatic. Take a listen to John. This month, right now, the. A huge number of communist and jihadi organizations are hosting almost every day during September strategic meetings to talk about how and when to go kinetic, like mass operations inside the United States. And these are the kinds of things that precede those things. I'll ask your response to that, Kenneth Strange. Yeah, Grant, that's an interesting take and it's something which I thought about myself. You know, there's no want for characters that might be interested in hitching a ride to this murder, you know, from Iranians and, you know, other groups, the Sinaloa Cartel, Hamas, you name it. There'd be no lack for, you know, people doing that. But I'm not so sure. We'll have to see how it plays out. I'm giving it, like I said, I'm giving it another 20, 24 hours. But certainly Agent Guandolo has, has something there that we should certainly keep in mind. Well, as the TV show is the first 48, the most important hours after a murder, those 48 hours, we shall see how it plays out. It's always a pleasure and an honor, Kenneth Strange, having you on the program. Thank you, sir. I know the book is a cop son. I urge everyone to read it. We appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you very much, Grant. Absolutely. So why would the left be so mad at Charlie Kirk? The question's rhetorical. You know why? He loves America. He loves the Constitution. He loves God and Jesus. That seems to be a real war that people who love God and Jesus are facing right now. He loves the Constitution. And I think the most reason why they hate and despise Charlie Kirk is because he's dangerous. He's dangerous because he can change the hearts and minds of young people that are being indoctrinated across this country. How does he change his mind? Like this. You a Christian? Very, very much so. Like, why is that exactly? Jesus saved my life. I'm a sinner. Gave my life to Christ. Most important decision I ever made. So you believe the Bible is real? Yes, I believe the Bible is true and real. Why is that? Well, I could give you the technical answer. There's never been an archaeological discovery that has contradicted the truth of the Bible. And then of course, the wisdom there is not a truth of the Bible that if you apply to your life, your life does not improve dramatically. And then finally we have the most accurate and transparent, historically robust account that one can have of the most important figure ever to live in the history of the world. Jesus of Nazareth. And the resurrection is the. Is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live. God bless you, Charlie Kirk. And now you get to meet Jesus face to face. And I know that's got to be something special for Charlie Kirk. Really hard for us to even fathom that he's not here anymore though. But we should take some comfort in the fact that we know where he is now. Those kinds of preachings, musings, talks is why so many kids showed up yesterday at that Utah University to see him. I mean, literally thousands. The crowd was huge. Well, someone else who was there was adjunct instructor at Utah Valley School of Business who witnessed the assassination. Professor David Rogers is with us. Professor Rogers, welcome to the program. Thank you for coming on, Rand. Thank you for having me. It was a tough day for all. I can only imagine what that's like. My question for you, what was campus like today? How are the students doing? And I'm sure that crowd probably was filled 50, 50 people who love Charlie and maybe not so much. Well, actually, I think it was a little more than that, Grant. I teach a one o' clock class just a building over in the business building. And the cheers were so loud for Charlie. I got there about five after 12 and the cheers were so loud from the quadrant there that I thought I'd just go over and see what was going on. I would say it was probably 70, 30 in his favor on that campus. He was receiving quite a warm welcome. Well, it is Utah after all, which is a deep red state. And one of the reasons why we love Utah, besides its beauty and great people. So now today, after so many of these students witnessed that, I imagine you witnessed it go down. What's talk on campus like today? Well, the campus is closed. We closed the campus down yesterday afternoon, sent everybody home, canceled classes until Monday the 15th. The faculty has been discussing options. There is a great power that hangs over the university. There's a lot of grief there for the events. And we are actually beginning discussions on starting a donor led and alumni and faculty led effort to start a Charlie Kirk Freedom foundation on his behalf. So the university is responding in a very positive way. What was this like for you, Professor Rogers, to be there at this moment knowing what a figure Charlie is and for all those young people to have to witness this? Well, was actually very much looking forward to what type of interaction we would have on the campus and how well he would be received. And, you know, the events are just tragic. And he really didn't have a chance to get going. He'd only really started his dialogue with students for a few moments before the shots rang out. I. I would have been very curious to see what, how the day would have gone and how he would have been received there and what sort of dialogue he would have been able to have with the university. Well, Professor, I appreciate you coming on tonight and talking about this. Please let us know how we can help with this Charlie Kirk foundation and this Freedom center on campus. That sounds like a fabulous idea for that university to honor Charlie Kirk. And we appreciate you coming on, sir. Thank you for your time, sir. Absolutely. So, as you know, an entire nation had to process this yesterday. You had left us that processed it in the most disgusting manner possible. We'll talk a little bit about that later in the program. But many of you had to process it real time. Social media has changed the game this way. Many of us had to process this on air. I did not do very well. My mind virtually went blank yesterday. I was not on my game. I was virtually speechless. Could not come up with words. And folks, those of you that know me, that does not happen to Stitch Fields very often. But others had a way with words and very powerful words. And I had to follow this from my dear colleague Steve Gruber, who in my mind summed this whole thing up. I can't believe in 2025 I'm sitting here talking about one of my colleagues being gunned down for caring about this country. I can't believe in 2025. I'm sitting here talking about Charlie Kirk being gunned down because he loved America, because he believed in free speech and in young people and the tenets of this country and the promise of America. I can't believe I'm sitting here having to tell you that he might not make it. It's gut wrenching to me. It makes me angry. It breaks my heart. It hurts. Could be me, could be Christina, Bob, could be Grant Stinchfield, could be anybody that speaks their mind in America. Could be a young girl on a train in North Carolina. That did nothing wrong. I'll tell you, it brings tears to my eyes, quite frankly. He's an amazing guy, Steve Gruber, and he's worked all day, but he found time for us tonight. Host of America's Voice Live, my buddy Steve Gruber is here. Gruber, welcome to the program. Grant, good to see you. I had a hard time following that. I was a guest on your program there, Steve. I'll say this. I watched a lot of reactions on social media. 99% of them were. Were legitimate. Some were phony, and I'm sad to say that, but some were phony. I think they were clickbait. That was so raw, Steve. That was so genuine. Tell me what was going through your mind when you laid that out for us. Us? Let me tell you a fact, Grant. I believe in this country. I believe in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. I believe it is the envy of the world. I do. I believe that since I was a young child, I feel that I'm blessed to be an American. I do. And I think that Charlie Kirk epitomized the American dream as far as free speech and the embrace of liberty. And he would welcome a discussion with anyone, a debate with anyone. He didn't come with weapons. He came with words. He didn't disrespect people if they had a different point of view. He would debate them and try to convince him or her that he was right. That's what frightened the left, that he can convince those people, those young people, people that are 18 to 30. And by the way, boy, did he do it with Turning Point usa. Boy, did he turn the corner. Boy, did he make a turning point. He convinced young people like nobody in my lifetime that, my friends, America is worth fighting for. America is a good place. America is the shining city on a hill. God, he believed it, Grant. He believed it with all he was. And he believed in Jesus Christ with all he was. I mean, and that's where. That's where I was coming from then. I'm coming from. And now. God bless Charlie Kirk. It was only 31 years. We've been cheated, Grant. But we have a mission in front of us to hold up the flame of Charlie Kirk for every American. Old, young, all of them. The example that he set is a. Is a golden one, Grant. Just gold. Yeah. You know, I think he could have been president one day. I was watching another video of him talking about what he wanted to be remembered for, and he talked about his faith and being true to his faith. But I can tell you this I'll remember him for changing the game when it comes to young people. Let me run a clip from President trump announcing this. Cut 18, guys. We miss him greatly. Yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially young people, will live on. I'm pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk, posthumously, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The date of the ceremony will be announced, and I can only guarantee you one thing, that we will have a very big crowd. Very, very big, as President Trump could only do. We're going to have a big crowd, and it's going to be great. And you know what? It will. And there will be a big crowd there. And I couldn't think of anybody more deserving. The left's going to go crazy about this. And, Steve, before I let you go, I have one final comment from you. You know, he's got 9.5 million followers on Instagram, something like that. Everybody knows who this guy is, but I don't want anyone to forget that he does have family and two kids and a wife and friends. You know, I mean, he was just a regular guy, too, besides being this icon. I'll give you the last word, Steve. I will say this, Grant. More people saw and heard Charlie Kirk today than at any time during his life. The searches for his words, the searches for his comments, the searches for his image. Who is this guy? For those that didn't know, and yes, there are many that didn't, but they know him today. Charlie Kirk had a bigger impact today in death than he did in life. And that will live on. Charlie Kirk will live on in eternity because of who he was, how he held himself, and mostly for the standard that he set. Without Jesus, he said he would be nothing. He set the standard, Grant. More people saw him today, more will see him tomorrow. And as the future goes forward, people will know who Charlie Kirk is more than they did when he was alive. I promise you there will be clips of Charlie Kirk being played for generations to come, though. Have not seen the last of Charlie Kirk. And his work is not over. Gruber, I'll tell you this. I've worked for a lot of networks, a lot of TV stations. Your coverage, the way you handled yourself yesterday, was about as good as it gets, buddy. And God bless you. I'm proud to work with you. Thank you. God bless you, Grant. Thank you. I appreciate that. We have a great crew here at rav. Unfortunately, there's one less of us, and that, of course, is Charlie Kirk all right folks, to honor another tragedy that happened. This day is rough. Okay? To honor another tragedy that happened 24 years ago. We pay respects to to the victims of 9 11. One of our good friends was in the Pentagon on that day. I was in New York City working for WNBC on that day. We'll get a discussion about that coming up next. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. 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And then Charlie Kirk, all of our friend, we literally watch him get shot to death, assassinated in front of the world. And then of course, today is the anniversary of 9 11. 24 years since that fateful day. Don't forget about Benghazi, the other 911 as well. For three days straight, we've had to watch people die on TV with our own eyes and on social media. I don't have words for it. It's awful what this country has gone through over the last three days. But I will never forget. I'll never forget Charlie. I vow to never forget Irena Zarutska and I most certainly will never forget 9 11. I was in New York working as a young reporter at wnbc. One of the first to get to ground zero. Watching the horror on people's faces that day stuck with me forever. Well, President Trump was at the Pentagon today to honor the victims and family members of 9 11. As our country came face to face with pure evil. On that fateful day, savage monsters attacked the very symbols of our civilization. Yet here in Virginia and in New York and in the skies over Pennsylvania, Americans did not hesitate. They stood on their feet and they showed the world that we will never yield, we will never bend, we will never give up. And our great American flag will never, ever fail again. I will never forget the faces that I saw, the face of terror in the eyes of American citizens. It is a face that I never want to see again. And sadly, I have seen again as American citizens are forced to flee evil. But can you imagine what the first responders were going through that day? The fire burned uncontrollably on seven floors. More than 11 hours. There was no water pressure in that 16 acre debris field. Is that why? I assume so. But no One was fighting the fires anymore. No one was going into Tower 7. So they just let it burn. I mean the chief is. We knew we lost a lot of men, had no idea how many at the time, but we're not gonna lose anymore. That's why he said so. They got out of the building. Well over 3,000 people died that day. And it is an American tragedy that will never be forgotten. As long as I have any part of having time on the air, I want to bring in with me now 32 year U.S. air Force combat veteran. Colonel Rob Manus is with us. He was in the Pentagon that day. Colonel, it is great to see you. Thank you for coming on today. Thanks for having me on, Grant. All right, Colonel, why don't you sum up what today means to you, especially now after Charlie was assassinated and this nation is mourning so much. Your thoughts, Colonel? Well, I have a message for those people that took down those buildings and attacked us on 9 11. And I have a message for those people that killed Charlie Kirk, a great American. That's why they killed him, because he was a Christian and an American, a good father, a good husband, and he could move millions of young Americans to the cause of what, what we all signed up to defend with our lives in the military. The Constitution of the United States, just by talking. That's why he couldn't be allowed to continue. Well, my message is this. We will never leave the fight for America. No matter how many you kill, it doesn't matter. We didn't leave when 911 happened. As a matter of fact, we pitched into the fight. Americans volunteered for every walk of life. You remember professional athletes, actors, just like what happened in World War II. Because everybody in America, no matter what their political ideology was, saw what was happening, is that our very soul was under attack. And unfortunately that's happening right now internally with this red green axis, this Marxist Islamist axis and some type of organization that's conducting these operations of assassination. That looks very familiar. Butler the golf course in Florida against the President twice now. And now this operation successfully assassinating Charlie Kirk, who really, as Jack Bosobic said this morning, he's a Christian martyr, that he was martyred for being a Christian. And then the politics comes after that and his effectiveness as an American that can sway millions of young men and women across generations, not just one, to come to the cause of America. That scares them and that's why they killed him. It certainly feels like the American way of life is under attack, which would then make it feel like we are at war. Steve Bannon, to bring up another real America's voice legend called Charlie Kirk, casualty of war. You know, I never really thought about it, Colonel, but. But you raise an interesting parallel, because the animals that flew planes into those iconic buildings in America 24 years ago today have the same thoughts about freedom and liberty of whoever's responsible for killing Charlie Kirk. There are parallels there. And they're willing to kill for this. Now, to me, I don't know what happens, but I'm not saying we're ready for a civil war. And I would rather have America go down and back to realizing and that peaceful discourse is the way of the world and the best way of the world. But I'm in a very scary spot right now. Colonel, what do you make of where we are? America is in a very scary spot. Look, we've allowed internally for hundreds of thousands of potential bad actors to come into this country. They're totally unvetted, totally unmonitored. They're Communists from China, they're Islamists from Afghanistan, the Middle east, all over the world. And they came here unbetted during the Biden administration. So we have a major internal problem that I'm sorry to say, my generation, we were fighting the enemy, looking outward, not inward. Now that same enemy is inside of our country. And I believe that there is a connection between governments, between this red, green axis, this Marxism, Islamic ideology that's now about to take over New York City through Mondomini. He is a red, green axis individual. He's a Marxist and he's an Islamist. That's his background, and he preaches that, too. And all that does is bring hate and violence and chaos. And they're trying to divide our society. Well, I got another message for him. We're not only not going to leave the fight for America, no matter how many you kill, we are not going to start a civil war. We are going to follow the model of Charlie Kirk, which is invite the opposing view people to the table, to his tent to let them speak their views and then persuade them through our voices. The ideas of America and Christianity are better than their ideas. And Charlie personally persuaded hundreds of thousands of American young people to change their minds. That's what he believed in. That's why free speech is important. Respectful, civil, open debate. Because as he said many times, if we stop talking, that's when we have a civil war. We can't stop talking. And our side's not going to stop talking. It will be the other side that continues this violence that they are perpetrating on the American people. Now, Charlie Kirk. Well, the latest sample you encapsulated the difference between make America great again conservatives and those leftists that will resort to violence. I do believe the Democrat Party is the party of violence. And then there's us that's trying to embody the values America was founded on and moved this country in the right direction. You've been such an integral part of doing that. You become an integral part of this program. Graham Colonel Manus, we're so grateful for that as well. And we're grateful for you and your service and coming on tonight, too. Well, thank you, Grant. On Monday on my show, I'll be talking with Jake Novak of another great rad show on Real America's Voice about the internal war that we find ourselves in. Steve Bannon's right. I would urge everyone to tune in to that. You know, it's interesting. On 911 2001, we fast we faced an attack from jihadi terrorists. They were from the outside, a Muslim holy war on America. Far more now than 2001, we have radical Islamic quote, holy warriors jihadists inside this country more than they were in 2001. Make sure we realize that and make sure we do something about it because the Islamic takeover America is real. They are trying to get us not under our watch, though we will not let it out of our grasp. All right, up next, a man and a dear friend of mine who lost his father when the towers fell, shares his story and his mission is going to help you through the next few days, weeks and months as well. I'll tell you how. Coming up next, stop settling for weak sound. 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Every year, no matter what outlet I'm on, whether it's TV or radio, I always honor the victims of 911 and someone who was killed that day was Ronald Fazio Sr. I feel like I know the guy. I never met him. Sadly, he was on the 99th floor of Tower 2 when the first plane hit. He told his entire office, get out. Speakers are going off telling everybody to go back, everything's fine. Ronald Sr. Said no, we're getting out of here. He got nearly his entire office out of that building to safety. He's at the ground floor, calls his wife to tell Him. He's okay. And he's holding the door for others to get out of the building. Holding the door for others. A second plane hits. We believe now the debris killed Ronald Fazio Sr. He is an American hero like none other. They only found a little piece of his credit card. That's it. But his legacy lives on with an organization called hold the Door for Others. It's run by his son, Rob Fazio. And Rob Fazio is a psychologist, doctorate in psychology. Don't like people to know that. But he is no woos bag psychoanalyst, I can tell you that much. He is one of my best friends. Top three, Rob Fazio. How about that? But most of all, he's my counselier. I go to him anytime I need advice. I met you, Rob, when you were looking for your father. If you can, you can. I know you can believe it. But people out there on the streets of New York City. I was a reporter. You were looking for your dad. And we've been best friends ever since. Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me, Grant. It's so special every year to reconnect with you and, you know, talk about my dad. Talk about everything we. We saw those days and to help us to continue to heal, you know, you were down there today. I think we have some pictures of you and your kids. Why don't you tell me your daughter's name is Reese. Tell me why and tell me that story. And it all fills in how we met as well. Yeah. So that. That right there is. That's Ray. Ray. She's my. My youngest and my older daughter's name's Reese. And Reese was named after my dad. So his favorite candy was Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. And he had a heart condition and wasn't allowed to eat them, but he always snuck them. And so when we were walking around looking for my dad, we put on the flyer, if found, please feed Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. And in such a tragic time, it gave us some moments of lift and humor and helped us connect with people deeper. It's actually how you and I first connected when I saw you by the Armory those days, because you said it was amazing that you're talking about something fun at this time. And so, in honor of my dad's love for Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, we need my daughter. So she carries on the legacy, and it's quite beautiful. One of the reasons why I wanted to have you on is because your organization hold the door for others, which is what your father was doing, helping others escape this horrible tragedy. And he died doing it helps people deal with grief, loss, and ultimately grow from it. Well, we've just had the death of such what I believe to be an American hero. And Charlie Kirk, you had to go through the loss of your father. What is your recommendation to people out there, especially with kids, young people having a real hard time with death of Charlie. Your, your recommendation to them? My recommendation to them is to realize that unfortunately things are going to happen to us at some point and we can't control that. So we actually need to be prepared and make sure we're living day like something had happened. And what we really teach people to do is to find a way that they can intentionally grow through adversity and loss. And they, they do that through gaining self awareness about themselves, about their strengths, about their weakest spots, but mainly about finding a way to find new purpose and new meaning and find their strength. We all have strength inside of us, but we don't all know how strong we are. How do you talk to kids about this? Especially you know that 11, 12 through 16, 17, 18, that's having such a hard time dealing with the loss of Charlie Kirk, many of them from conservative families who was instrumental in their lives. How do you talk to kids? Yeah, it's pretty ironic. We're talking about loss and I lost my camera feed somehow, but I've got it back now. So I think, you know, with, with children, they actually are understand more and are more resilient than we imagine. And so what with children or something, when there's a natural tragedy, you want to give just as much truth and information to help them learn and understand. And it's kind of a continuum as they get older, you build with them. So you don't want to lie, you don't want to shock them, but as they're growing, you tell them more. And so I'm a professional and I've been, I've had. My daughter's nine years old and just today driving home, she said, daddy, I want to see videos of September 11th. And I said, reese, what. What do you mean? She's like, I know, you've told me about it. I know about grandpa. She like, I want to see the videos. And I was shocked because she's telling me she's ready. I would never ask her to do that. And I think we're going to let her see if something exactly happened. And then the hard part is teaching about evil. And there is evil in the world, unfortunately. And I think our children need to know at a Certain point, bad things do happen and we have to stick together. You know, it's amazing because on 9 11, when I was there at ground zero, I've told you this, but I don't know if anybody else knows. I did not see the video of the towers falling till three o' clock in the morning the next day. I was reporting on it. Our cell phones didn't have social media where you could watch the video or TV on it. So I processed that hours after me being there. Now, Charlie Kirk's murder is in the most vile, heinous form right there. You may not want to see it. You can't help it when it splashes in front of you when you're scrolling through TikTok. That's rough for kids today, Rob. Yeah, well, social media is. Is a huge problem because we. We don't. We need to protect our kids and monitor, make sure it's age appropriate. But yes. So what I try to tell people to do is they've got to repair. Because when you repair and say there's a tragedy, you say to your kids, I don't want you to watch anything about it until we talk about it, but something might pop up. And if something pops up, I want you to talk to me and, and you prepare people that they might see things that are horrific or very scary, and that actually does a little bit of immunization of the impact of seeing the raw video or the raw footage of things. Yeah. One thing that's amazing is, Rob, you handle the loss of your father like nobody I've ever seen. In the end, the human spirit is nothing short of amazing. People get through things they never thought they could get through through. And I'll give you the last word on that thought because I think it is fitting for today and everything that's happened this week. I think about leadership a lot, and I think about our business executives, our nonprofit leaders. And what we don't realize is we all have intentional, good, positive leadership in us. I know that because my dad was a quiet man. He wasn't thought of as a leader. But when those towers hit, his character got magnified and he held the door. People for people. We all have these intentional acts of kindness and there's a ripple effect and we need to lead in a way that helps people grow. God bless you, buddy. You and your family and your father. And I'm grateful for your friendship. I really am. I appreciate you coming on tonight, as always. Love you, Grant. Thanks for being with me, everybody, every step of the way. Love you. Right back at you. Hold the Door.com is the organization that Rob started and it's great. Hold door.com all right folks, as true Americans mourn the loss of Charlie Kirk, the left is showing their true colors. What's next? Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up some your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG X Boom and for a limited time save 25%@LG.com with code fall25 bring the boom xboom time for a sofa upgrade. 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We're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast, the News Agents dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And the newsagents USA listening to the news agents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. Well, folks, if you can believe it, MSNBC finally did something right. They fired this Dowd character for this. He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that's the environment we're in that, that people just, you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that's the unfortunate environment we're in. I'm going to ask you, what's the hateful rhetoric that Charlie has ever spewed? There is none. If you go through his speeches, his social media posts, his onstage appearances, on camera appearances, there is nothing hateful. It may be uncomfortable. You may not like to hear that Islam is not the religion of Western civilization. You might not like to hear that Jesus is our savior. But it's not hate speech, it's reality. So then Time magazine comes out with a cover. Was the only part of this Time magazine article I agree with enough. I wish they were talking about leftist craziness. They go on to write inside the article. Kirk's sudden public death, paper cut to his sudden death risks joining that chain. His killing could become not just a tragedy, but a catalyst. An event that radicalizes ever more Americans, less an aberration than our feature of our increasingly perilous national politics. A catalyst to what? To radicalize Americans. You talking about conservatives? We are not the party of violence. We do not radicalize Easy. Republicans are the least radicalized people in this country because we believe in freedom and the idea that America is based off an exchange of ideas. Do I dare do a. Time went on to write at the time of the shooting, according to recordings from the event, he was discussing the false right wing belief that many mass shooters are transgender fault. How was that false? The last like five of seven mass shootings were transgender shooters. This was Charlie that day. So do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? Too many. Me. Thank you, Charlie. That would be one of his last words. The left's gone crazy. You want to see how crazy I dare do it. Cut 11 I'm not saying she deserved it, but I'm saying, okay, you know, I thought I should do it. I should. It's bad. These people are heartless, soulless, godless jerks. And I've got much stronger language. But I won't say it on a broadcast network. What would their mothers think of this? Celebrating the death of a human being? Solace is an understatement. All right, it's been an emotional couple of days. Obviously for this nation. It is now. Nice to see Americans band together in solidarity. We will show you this next. All across the country, stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portables speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time save 25% at LG.com with code Fall25. Bring the Boom XBoom. 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From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast the News Agents dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And The News Agents USA listening to the News Agents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where we are continuing to chart the course of America's cultural comeback, arguably more fervently than ever before. We are continuing to remember Charlie Kirk this evening. One of the things that you probably haven't heard here on this show is the political interplay that's gone back and forth. I believe there is a time for that that will come and I will not shy away from all of the things that the left has said in reaction to this horrible tragedy. But for now like to continue to focus solely on Charlie and what he meant and specifically what he meant to me. I'm not sure if I've shared this full story of how I got involved at Turning Point, but here it is. I started making videos in my garage and I'd been involved in politics for several years, but on the campaign side, I'd never done the media side, so to speak. One thing led to another. I got picked up by an organization, the Daily Caller. Specifically, that landed me on the couch at what was then called Turning Point Live or TPUSA Live. And by, you know, whatever reason, Charlie decided we're gonna bring him on to Turning Point. I was overwhelmed with astonishment that he would have enough trust in me to take a gamble on A guy who wasn't really that influential in not only the conservative space, but really any space. I don't even know if I was influential in my own friend group, let alone the. To the level and the magnitude that Charlie was. But nevertheless, he decided to take a chance on me. And by mere circumstance, a couple years later, actually a couple months later, there was a speaker that was late to a YWL event. And Charlie looked at me and said, hey, you do stand up comedy, right? And I said, yep. And he's like, can you go on stage and kill 20 minutes? Our speakers an hour late? I said, all right. And he had enough confidence in me to put me in front of 2,000 young women at the preeminent women's event in conservative. The conservative movement. And from there, he said, hey, you know, that was pretty good. Why don't you come on tour with me? And so for the last three years, I'd spent on the road, going to every college campus with Charlie and speaking in front of him. There would be evening events, and I'd go and I'd do five, ten minutes, and then he'd come on and is, you know, kind of like a one, two punch now, obviously, him being the one and much, much bigger punch. But we traveled the country together. And all I mean to say by telling you all this is, is for whatever reason, so often, Charlie had more confidence than me, than I think I had in myself. He opened doors for me that most people would never dream of those doors being opened. I got to see how passionate he was, how driven he was, how motivated he was to do all the work that he was doing with his organization and with the conservative movement as a whole. I saw him as a friend and a mentor and am thankful and grateful for everything that he has done for myself, my family, and outside of that, the movement as a whole. And I know we're gonna keep talking about him for as long as it takes for the message to get across, which may be a lifetime, but Charlie was a special, special person. I know you've heard all of that before, but it needs to be reiterated until you can't talk anymore, because that's how important of. And special the guy he was. I want to play you this. I'm not even sure who put this out. I just. I saw this. It caught my wife's eye because the first clip is Charlie walking down a little aisle at Mar a Lago. And there it was. Say hi to his little girl and him as they walk down. And the overall message of the video is that that's just what caught my wife's eye. And I want you to watch this. What advice do you have for me as I move into adulthood in order to become a more informed and involved citizen? Well, first of all, thank you for being here. And I have hope thanks to people like you. How old are you again? 13. 13. Here's a couple things I want to encourage you to do. Learn something new every single day and focus on what it means to be a good person and a person in strong character. Aristotle said that courage is the ultimate virtue. Without it, there are no other virtues. If people aren't courageous, you don't have honesty, you don't have justice. You know beauty, you don't have wonder. And so at Asia 13, I want you to commit yourself to a life of courage. Courage is doing the right thing when you don't know how it's going to work out. Courage is committing yourself to the correct course of action, regardless of the cost associated to it. Every human being, I believe, is made in the image of the divine, is sacred, is unique. And if we get away from this principle as we have, we not only have moral degradation, we not only have the collapsing society around us, but it's bad for that being itself. That being itself is unique. That being has rights. And who are we to say just because we're older that we get to murder it? Thank you, Glenn. Can we just play the next clip? I. How do you want to be remembered? If I die, everything just goes away. How would you. If you could be associated with one thing, how would you want to be remembered? I want to be. I want to be remembered for. For courage. For my faith. That. That would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life. You don't need any more of my commentary. 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