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It's no longer just that you're godless or soulless. I honestly believe, folks, I. I mean this. I honestly believe that Satan has taken over some of these people. How else do you explain behavior like this? Charlie Kirk got shot and he's dead. Finally. Finally, somebody with a gun, which is almost everybody states, grew a pair and went and shot somebody on the right side. Thank you. Can we keep this up, please, folks? It's evil. This violent vitriol that has taken over their hearts is not what America is all about. Certainly it's not the behavior of the Americans that I'm so proud of. I actually believe it spawned from the devil himself. And so what do we do with this? Because now we are at a point in time where it is good versus evil. I am so upset about what we're seeing from those on the left, and quite frankly, I'm very impressed from what we're seeing from those on the right and coming together and all the good things. But the bad is brutal and the worst in people. Look, they want us dead if we disagree with them. That isn't right. Watch this. I'm surprised that y' all didn't get rid of him sooner. And I'm surprised that you guys aren't getting rid of more people. Like, don't stop with him. Don't let him be the end dog. Get rid of them all and the ones that are above him, your mayor, your city councilman. What is it? Georgia Power? The people that keep on raising the CEO, get rid of them. You understand what she's saying? The CEO responsible for raising your electric rates, get rid of them. This Is like the deranged lunatic to kill that healthcare CEO, the mayor of your town. He doesn't vote for a homeless shelter. Just kill him. Maybe your teacher. You get a C on a paper, kill them too. It's inhuman. There is no value for human life anymore. And it gets even worse when a woman like that calls for the death of the person she disagrees with. Family. In this case, Charlie Kirk's family, the things he said. And they're, like, so atrocious. Atrocious that, like, his wife deserves to go too. Y' all keep on talking about his wife and kids. They need to go too, because they're carrying on that mentality in that lineage, like, get rid of the whole family. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Why did you guys stop with him? Why did you stop with him? Go get his grandma. Because who raised you like your mom ought to be asham for birthing scum like you? Get rid of the whole family. It's one of the most deranged, disturbing, frightening statements I've ever heard. Hypocritical as well. Who raised you? Who raised you? What does your grandmother say when you spew hate and violence like that? So as I watch these people lose their minds, I feel like we're on the verge of something big, and it may not be good. And when we battle this war, we know that God can help us win, because God will beat Satan back. And I believe demons walk among us now. Now more than ever, we need God, and we need to embrace him, and he needs to help us win. Because if a demon hasn't taken the soul of this person, I don't know what has happened. We're gonna push it. We're gonna see how far we can push it. I was not kidding when I said if you were gonna get the job done, there were two better candidates. She wants President Trump and J.D. vance. Again, folks, it's right now or never of where we go on this path for America and what we want. I want to bring in NOW pro life leader with Priests for Life. My good friend Father Frank Pavone is with us. Father, it's great to have you back on the program. Hey, Grant, I was so glad to get your message. Thanks for having me on tonight on such an important topic. Well, you know, I texted you this morning, and I said, father, am I wrong? I literally feel like we are under an attack from demons from Satan. It's like the devil has taken over these people, and I don't want to give them a pass, but I Almost feel like they're possessed. Yes, you're onto something here. First of all, let's take a step back. Biblically, and the teaching of Christianity down through the ages indisputably acknowledges the devil is a real being. There are such things as evil spirits. Now, the good news is their power, although it's real, is limited. We know that Jesus Christ has the victory. Which then, of course, brings us to the ultimate answer. What we do about this. We take refuge in Jesus Christ. And of course, Charlie Kirk was always proclaiming that. But looking at the big picture here, how much of this is demonic? You know, you used grant the word deranged. And that is also true with the kind of people that you showed us these videos just now. These are the most. First of all, the most ignorant people among us. They are the most psychologically deranged people among us, and at the same time, they are the most evil people among us. And we have to understand those three things go together. You know, in the Catholic Church, when we have to do or suspect, we have to do an exorcism of someone from demonic possession or demonic influence. The first thing we do is have them give them a psychological evaluation. Because when we think about people saying and doing evil things like this, it's not just one or the other. You know, either it's demonic or, oh, it's just that they're psychologically sick. Those things work together. The devil causes all kinds of sickness and derangement, and sick and deranged people are exploited by the devil. So it's yes to both. We've got natural things going on, and we've got supernatural things going on. All right, I'm gonna play this woman I just played for you before. And it's interesting what you bring up, because maybe it is a combination of both the psychological aspect and the. The demon aspect to all of this. Play her again when that happens, and it will. It will. Not only will we be insensitive, that'll be the least of your worries. But it's gonna be the biggest celebration, the biggest, most beautiful celebration on planet Earth. On planet Earth, Father, she's talking about the assassination of President Trump that is to come. And I will say this, as much as it gives me chills to watch her, I actually have compassion for her. She needs help, Father. Yes. You know, on a natural level, one of the problems is these people hate themselves. They hate themselves so much because deep down, they know they're espousing the wrong position, that it hurts too much to direct consciously that anger to yourself. So they have to have a displaced target for their anger. So that's what's going on. On a psychological level, on a spiritual and demonic level. We have to understand something. This, what has happened right now brings to the surface something that has been there all along. You mentioned the battle between good and evil. So many of the voters in the last election recognized this was a battle between good and evil. It is demonic when someone stands up and says there's no such thing as truth. It is demonic when someone stands up and says it's okay to kill a baby in the womb. Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth and the life. The devil hates truth and he destroys life. So any of these positions, even if someone is not acting as outrageously as these lunatics that you just showed here, nevertheless, it's still demonic to embrace positions. And unfortunately, we have an entire political party that is embracing and advocating these anti life, anti God, anti freedom positions. That's all demonic. So we have got to take a step back and realize, you know, there's not gonna be. You can't just come together on a superficial level, oh, let's all get along. Let's not demonize one another. You know, let's condemn political violence. Of course we condemn political violence, but we're not gonna solve the problem we're in right now unless we realize we have got to condemn relativism. We have got to condemn the idea that you can just kill people or that you can just deny that there's such a thing as truth. Our established this country on the reality of truth and of God. And as long as we have people that are going to insist that those things aren't real, we're never going to be united and we're never going to solve these problems. Father, real quick, if you can, and this may be hard to do in 20 or 30 seconds, but are we going to be okay here? We going to win this battle between good and evil in this country? Well, we are for two reasons, Grant. Number one, we are not just working for victory, we're working from victory. That cross that's right behind me shows us Jesus Christ has already conquered this evil. It's an unfolding victory. We have to embrace him. We have to proclaim him. And the other reason, Grant, is that as is said in the early church, the blood of martyrs is the seed of Christians. We see it happening already with Charlie, more and more people coming forward to do what he did. And God forbid any other assassinations. It's only going to energize us more and bring people to our side. Yeah. God bless you, Father Frank Pavone, I appreciate you coming on as always. Your words are always an inspiration to me and helpful to everybody else out there. Thank you, sir, as always. You're welcome. All right. Good to see you, my friend. All right. You know, Father talked about people doing good. We've got hundreds of independent whistleblowers out there, is what I'll call them, that have literally gotten hundreds of people fired from their jobs because they were spouting the most awful things about Charlie Kirk on social media. And employers didn't want people who were awful like that working for them. I saw this video coming out of Office Depot. These two workers got fired. They refused to print vigil flyers for a Charlie Kirk Memorial. For a vigil tonight. Yes. Or somebody that passed. It's not. Oh, it's propaganda. I'm sorry. We don't fit that year. All righty. So what's your name? Pharaoh. I'm print supervisor. I'm one of the managers. Yes. So unfortunately. Unfortunately. So they say they don't print political propaganda. So this is somebody that passed away a couple years ago. That's political propaganda. Unfortunately, I'm. So this is political propaganda. Well, thank you. Office Depot did the right thing and fired that individual. There's literally hundreds of these people out there. Like this woman who got fired for espousing some horrible things online. Oh, no. I don't know. That's what I keep saying. I just don't know. It's not fair. I think it. I think it's unfair that somebody would be that malicious to do that to me. I would never hurt anybody. Never hurt anybody. You hurt the family of Charlie Kirk, you say awful things, and then these people think they're getting fired for their words over free speech. It's not about free speech. The employers realized you have no compassion, you lack empathy, and you embrace violence. That's not somebody that anybody wants to have working for them. I want to bring in now investigative reporter and conservative news breaker, our man Nick Sorter is back. Nick, welcome back. I appreciate you having me, Grant. I'm in D.C. right now, but I wasn't supposed to be. I was supposed to be in Arizona, but the flights coming out of here, man, and I'm not making this up. Ask anybody that's trying to get out there. They're full. Getting to Phoenix, it's crazy. It's amazing because people are going out there for Charlie Kirk. Well, certainly anybody right of center in Washington, D.C. knew Charlie Kirk and is probably going out there to celebrate his life and mourn his loss, clearly. Nick, though, I got to ask you, what do you make of what we're seeing online today of those of the Charlie Kirk haters and those on the left? Well, I'll tell you what. Right now, Grant, Americans have bull fatigue at this point. You know, we're tired of hearing. You know, it's really funny to watch these people, like, on TikTok or whatever. There's a reason that I hardly ever use the app is because it can only take so much of this brain rot. And they cry after they dance on Charlie's grave in front of his wife and children, and they end up losing their jobs because it takes a pretty mentally unstable person to celebrate the assassination in front of 3,000 college kids of a peaceful figure. That was merely just speaking to people. Charlie was one of the least violent people that I met. I mean, look, I would love to be half the person that Charlie was. And a lot of these people, they're not even a thousandth of the type of person that Charlie was. And so I expect nothing less out of them. I'm not surprised to see leftists lashing out like this. They think that they're warriors. In reality, they're keyboard warriors and cowards that can't have any sort of debate. And so they've just got to off you. I mean, Charlie was so effective at what he was saying that they had to off him for it. Yeah, it's not just the keyboard warriors as well. You have elected officials all across this country. In blue cities, President Trump orders the flag to be flown at half mast. Yet cities like the city of Los Angeles refused. Refused to do that. I'll show you a video in Dallas. I go to the mall in Dallas, and we throw that video up, and outside there, that's Nordstrom at North Park Center Mall in Dallas, they have the flag being flown. Full staff as well. And that too. Well, this is the half. This is Neiman Marcus. I must have sent the wrong one to the guys. Neiman Marcus flew it at half staff. Nordstrom, on the other side of the mall, flies it at full staff. And so I called them. They lower it the next day. But L. A, you got these other places. It's a shame. Nick, I'll give you the last word. Yeah. And I mean, because in reality, the Democrats, they're not mourning this. They're excited. They honestly, they'd like it to happen more. They just had a prayer vigil. Speaker Johnson just held a prayer vigil right here. Next door at the Capitol. And Hakeem Jeffries couldn't be bothered to show up. I call him Dollar Store Obama. I think there's a much better term for him. Couldn't be bothered to show up for a man that was assassinated in cold blood for his political views. I know Mayor Bass out there in Los Angeles actually specifically put out a memoir saying not to listen to the president and not to lower the flags. So it's not just that they didn't do it. She specifically told them not to. She's an evil witch. You have the note right there. Yeah. I'm not making this up. No, you're not. An evil witch is a great way to describe Karen Bass and so many of the other leftists out there that just have no compassion. And I tried to put myself. All right. If I'm on the other side and something like this happens to them, I promise you, Nick, you and I, I've known you for a while now, we don't act like this. There's no way. We may not be happy about flying a flag half mast versus somebody on their side, but you do it because it's tradition when the president orders it done and it's the flag and it's America, and they just don't have it. Have it in them. Nick, I'll give you the last word real quick if you can. Yeah, yeah. And to be honest, Grant, like, I don't anticipate anybody from the MAGA Republican side ever doing this, so I'm not worried about ever having to be. Ever having the roles swapped. I'm just. Just being totally honest with you. That's about the best point that you've made, because it's true. It's not happening from. From our side, and. And it just isn't. They're the party. The violent. The violent left. And the party of left. We are not. And that's a fact. Newsbreaker. Nick Sorter. Always good to see you. Thank you. Appreciate you, Grant. All right, in Loveland, Colorado, folks, you want to see what some vandals did to a memorial for Charlie Kirk outside. Take a look at this. They burned the fence and the sign down, then smashed the family's window out. I can show you what it looked like before we have that photo, before they lit the place on fire and, you know, the family was home. That fire could have spread to the house. That's what it did look like. Who acts like this? Well, I want to bring in now the very homeowner of that Colorado home where they had a memorial out for Charlie Cook. He goes by Michael. Quite frankly, he's afraid to give his last name out. And I don't blame him the way the left has been acting. Michael, welcome to the program. And I'm sorry what happened to your. To your house and Charlie's memorial there. Thank you for. Thank you for that. My. I just want to put out there. My dad's a long time listener and fan of yours, and he just wanted to say hi and, you know, not. I. I didn't know who you were. Sorry. But I looked at some videos and I'm. I love you. I like it like what you have to say right back at you. You tell your father he gets an instance promotion in Stitchfield's army. And I'm just happy you came on with me to talk about what your family went through. Can you explain when you learned they had lit basically your home on fire? So when the fire department woke us up at 11:15, they said, hey, your fence was on fire and it looks like somebody busted out your back windshield. I was like, okay, well, let's go look at this. And all I know is there's hate in the world and it's unacceptable. We all need to start waking up and loving one another. The person that did this could have came by and had a conversation with me and, you know, maybe had a beer or something. I don't know. But I think we're getting out of control when you just get to this point in our lives. So I just know that the community in Loveland has been so helpful and have stood by us. They have brought flowers and money and food and hugs and handshakes, and they all stand by us, you know, and that's something that I haven't felt in a long time. And, you know, it just is not what I wanted it to be, but it is what it is. And I love you, Charlie. I love your family. We love you. You know, I think what we're looking at is the redo of the memorial that you guys put back up there. And. And it's amazing that you did. I mean, you're not going to be deterred. We know that. The other part of this story that makes me happy is I saw you on the local news station, and in many respects, I'm glad the local news covered this because sometimes you think they try to bury this, but they covered. And you had mentioned that even Democrats in your neighborhood were upset for you and your family, that you had to go through this, that they showed you compassion, that this is not everybody on the left, is that correct? Yeah, I couldn't, you know, I always known that because I have Democratic friends, you know, and we're able to have conversation, you know, and so they try to paint a narrative that Democrats are all one side. And it's like, no, that's not the case. And yeah, my community, if you watch the Local 9 news that we did today, the lady that was speaking is a liberal and Democrat. And, you know, and I'm okay with that. We've known this when we go to our yearly picnics, we have conversation, we joke and it's, you know, it's brought us closer, believe it or not. And everyone that's come by has just been super supportive in many respects. It's why I wanted to end this segment with your story because there is still hope for us as we all remain out there, keep battling, and you willing to talk to them and have a beer is really what typifies our side. Many on their side aren't willing to do that just yet, but we'll keep trying to. Michael, thank you very much. I wish you and your family the best. Give your father a big thumbs up for me. I'm so appreciative of him watching. Maybe we got a new viewer now in you, Michael. Yeah, you do. You definitely do. Thank you so much. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much as well. And, you know, let's hope that doesn't happen again. But this is what we're up against in this country is that people are doing deranged things over what politics. But politics now has come to the point where politics and the war over it is a war for the soul of this nation. All right? Which brings me to this. If you love this country, you cannot just sit back. All right? So here's what I want you to do. 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The Washington Park Post is reporting that the suspected assassinator in this case of the killing of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, allegedly confessed to the crime on a Discord chat just a few hours after he pulled the trigger. According to the Washington Post, he says this, and I quote, I'm sorry for all this. Read the message from the suspect's account. Oh, no. He says, hey, guys, I have bad news for you. It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this. That on a Discord chat. Now the evidence against this suspect is growing. This is Cash Patel, the director of the FBI. What decisions I need to make. And having the support of President Trump and the full support of the White House was what we needed for these resources to happen. And I can report today that the DNA hits from the towel that was wrapped around the firearm and the DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody. All right, so that's all helpful. What we need now, though, of course, is ballistics to match the gun to the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk. Because right now, what I'm seeing there are a slew of conspiracy theories flying around and. And I believe there's very little if any, basis to any of them. One of the biggest ones right now is this alleged hand signals. We'll show you this on here. This hand signals. Do you know how many mass shooters. There you go. So so we're alleged hand signals, okay, by Charlie Kirk's bodyguards there that you saw. That's not the case. I believe they're literally just moving their hands around. I've talked to people close to Charlie Kirk's family that have complete trust in the security forces, and I've talked to the FBI. There's no idea of that, including another conspiracy theory that somehow the shot came from a different direction from a cell phone gun. This is your assassin right here, guys. Right here. It's unbelievable that people can watch this and say, no, you're just delusional, or no, you snorted cocaine, or you're just stupid. Like, you can't see what I'm seeing. That is a palm gun. So I believe what's happening is you have people out there that are going after clicks and likes, and they know in the end, they build a follower base because people want to hear what they want to hear in all of this. I heard the shot. That shot isn't coming from a cell phone gun. Okay. You'd be lucky if you had the sound of a.22 rifle from a cell phone gun. Lucky. So, again, I would urge people to take a step back and. And think about what this investigation really entails, and that's finding out to make sure that they have the right man in custody and make sure we know if there are any others connected to him. And Dan Bongino said there were at least 20 other people. Of course, this is the Deputy director of the FBI. 20 other people they're looking at that could have known about this crime before it happened. I want to bring in now former police lieutenant, retired U.S. navy intel officer Stephen Rogers is back with us. Stephen, great to have you on. Pleasure to be with you. Thank you. Stephen, what did you make of the. I mean, there's literally dozens of conspiracy theories out there. What do you make of it when you start to see those flying around? I've got to tell you, these are sick people, Grant. They have absolutely nothing to offer with regard to the solutions that we need to at least solve cases like this. I'll tell you what, I'm going to give you credit, my friend. I've heard no one on television except you at this point, who's taken on these conspiracy theorists. And my hat's off to you, and it's about time that maybe the other news host should do this around the country. But getting back to this point about what's next, okay? We have to find out if anybody else was involved. We have to find out who knew about this, in my mind, a few people didn't know about this. This guy not only chatted on the Internet, he chatted to people in person. As far as I'm concerned, I have no evidence of that at this point, but I believe that he couldn't keep his mouth shut. So he started to talk, talk, talk. And there's your evidence. All right, let me read to you some of the chats on this Discord channel that they've now been able to obtain. The first one is from somebody named Niraj Galvez, and It reads, On September 9, it says something big will happen tomorrow. The next one from Fu, Josh Incel, which you go figure that Guy's name on September 5, he says something big will happen soon and you will know it when you see it. And then the last one I'll read for you, Steve, is number 17. This is @Cherry Silv on. On September 10, he posts this is the day Charlie was. Was killed. Read this if you're gay. This is from the Steam page saying, be careful. Over this S word you say online, end to end encryption messaging platforms like signal exists for a reason or just use pgp. And yes, this is directly referencing a very specific thing that happened. Appears to certainly, Steve, be talking about the murder of Charlie Kirk. It seems like there were people in this Discord chat that was with the alleged shooter that knew about this, what happens with them, and no one said anything until this point. When you see something, say something. I'm sure somewhere in that chat room, somebody had to be scratching their heads thinking, boy, something terrible may happen. Law enforcement does not have the manpower or the equipment right now to monitor every single chat room across this country. But the people do. What will happen to them? Nothing. It's not a crime not to say anything, but I've got to tell you, those who were close to this killer, this, this murderer who had conversations with him and verbally were told by him that something was going to be done. They, as far as I'm concerned, are part of the big problem we have. And maybe there's something in the legal journals that could drag them into this where they'll pay a penalty. What do you make of the roommate, who also apparently, according to the FBI, was very helpful with giving up of these messages. The roommate, a transgender, apparently a male trying to transition to a female in a relationship with the alleged shooter. What do you make of him, his involvement, and. And where we go from here with that side of the story? Well, there's no doubt in my mind that this individual Somehow, some way knew what was coming, that he had conversations with Charlie's killer. But saying that, we must keep in mind that there, I believe Grant will be the wink, the weak link. They've got overwhelming evidence against this guy. But to have someone close to this killer as his roommate is to actually tell us that, yes, he did say this and he did say that, and by the way, may point us in other directions that we don't even know about right now. That's going to be big. So they've got to be real, methodically in interviewing, interrogating this person. Steve, last question for you. I believe there was Antifa rhetoric that was etched on some of these shell casings. I believe there's a bigger picture here. Whether it's antifa, this antifascist chaos group, they want anarchy in America. Whether it was them directly helping him or just inspiring, we've got to get to the bottom of that. President Trump talked about labeling them a terror organization. Your thoughts quickly about Antifa's involvement in all of this. In my view, Antifa is a terrorist organization and they should be dealt with as terrorists. But also keep in mind, we have enemies overseas. We have Communist China. We've got Russia. All these people who hate us are going to jump in on this and try to distract us, continue to divide us. We're stronger, we're tougher, we're Americans. We will overcome this, but we must do this united. Yeah. Lieutenant Stephen Rogers, I appreciate you coming on as always, great stuff. Thank you. Thank you, Grant. Absolutely. Back at you, sir. All right, folks, coming up next, we're going to talk about Potter Valley. Governor Newsom is at war with ranchers in his state, and he's going to drain them dry. Well, there will be no water left to drink, apparently not for humans, not for cattle, not for anybody. The Trump administration taking a hard look at what, what they can do to help. Next, looking for a smarter choice for dental implants? 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So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. Folks, we're about the only, the only show really covering this story in Potter Valley, California, Northern California, where Governor Newsom is okay with Pacific Gas and Electric cutting and removing these dams to basically drain the valley dry of water. Ranchers, farmers unable to water crops, unable to water the cattle. The cattle will die. We're now getting word that many of the families are not going to have water even going to their homes. 600,000 people live in Potter Valley. Nobody seems to be doing anything about this. Well, we've been covering this ad nauseam and now apparently Secretary Rollins, the Department of Agriculture has been in contact with the farmers. We saw this tweet from her earlier this week. I spoke with farmers, ranchers and community leaders in Potter Valley, California. PG&E is cutting water flows and pushing to tear down the Scott Cape Horn dams. Once again the California Governor and his legislature are putting fish over people, destroying century old farms and leaving families vulnerable to more drought and wildfire. She says she's working with Secretary Burgum, the USDA and Interior to deliver real solutions. Working is good. We need the solutions fast. Here with me now, Potter Valley ranchers Chris and Jolene Logan. Chris and Jolene, welcome to the program. I appreciate you coming on. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Absolutely. Jolene, I'll start with you first. Can you tell me what the situation is now? Are you getting any water? Do you have cattle crops? What's the situation? Well, I'm a sixth generation Potter Valley farmer and rancher. My family came to Potter Valley in 1859. Since then we've farmed hay and cattle and sheep. Currently we have about 90 head of cattle in the valleys. In the summer they come in, they graze the pastures which is irrigated. And so if we don't have any water, we don't have green pastures which we can't then feed our cattle. So right now they've reduced the water, they've lengthened the time that we can get the water. So it's like three week periods or more when we can finally get water. And even then it's cut, it's been reduced and the water that we do get is reduced, so it takes longer to irrigate. So we're irrigating for twice as long, which is probably costing us more money. And the grass is not doing well, it's not growing. So we actually a couple weeks ago started feeding a month early our cattle, which is not normal because of this. All right, Chris, what happens if this water gets cut? And by all accounts, it appears they plan on cutting the water. Even during the drought, when our last time our water was restricted, there were wells that if they missed in irrigation, their wells wouldn't keep up with the demand of their houses. So, and that was on a three week rotation. So I mean, if that goes away, all our wells, a lot of the wells will go dry. Typically our wells in the valley are around 30ft deep. And without that water to replenish, I think we're going to lose half of the wells in the valley. Well, you lose the wells, you, you can't survive. I mean, with no water, I mean, you can't. So what happens to the property, Jolene? And then how do you sell property that you can't get water to? Who would buy it? Exactly. You know, the values of our homes are going to plummet. The property here is actually worth quite a bit of money. But you know, with no water for your house even, you know, the values of our homes are going to go down and we won't, you know, who would want to buy that? Yeah. You know, Chris, can I ask you, Chris, what is your message? Because I would imagine Governor Newsom could step in, in here. He's so concerned about the fish and spawning for the fish of taking these dams down so the salmon can still run. What is your message, Chris, to Governor Newsom? I don't understand. I mean, there are some great tributaries to the Eel River. Why can't we get the fish back into those tributaries before we try to rip out the dam? Let's. There's water there. Why are you going to take out a per 100 year old system that is God given gravity doesn't require anything. The removal of the dams is going to cost the state over 500 million is what I'm being told. And then you want the expense of a pump station and then they've already met to raise Lake Mendocino. When we have a system that works, why can't we work together? And find a way to bring some fish back. I don't think removal of the dams is your only option. And that's all they're giving us. And a lot of this dam removal is. Is for the fish. But there's a lot of other issues besides the dam. So the fish aren't really at the dams. They have low records of fish coming over Cape Horn Dam. And there's so many other factors that they are not even looking at. It's like they have blinders on. They're not looking at the pike minnow that eats all the baby fish. They're not looking at the seals eating them all in the mouths of the rivers, in the ocean. They're not looking at the illegal take of water by illegal marijuana grows in the river. They're just using the dam as. They just want the dam out, and that's all they want. Just for less than 4% more spawning habitat for these fish that aren't even really there. Chris, I would imagine, I look at the story, I say it's common sense. You got to put people over fish first. I mean, you have to. So it's common sense. I would imagine you're probably starting to feel pretty helpless. I mean, it's great that Secretary Rollins is going to is stepping in. We're going to keep the pressure on the federal government and Gavin Newsom. But are you at a point where you feel helpless, that nobody seems to be helping through all of this? Yes. I mean, it's hard. You're actually starting to hear about it now. And I mean, people are just not aware of where their water comes from. There are people below us. They have no idea that the water even comes from our watershed over the hill. Yeah. Well, I will tell you what. I know everybody watching this program is going to be praying for you and your family and everybody in Potter Valley that the government in California now, I do radio out in Los Angeles. It's going to take a lot for the government in California to wake up and do the right thing. They haven't done it yet in anything I've seen, but we certainly will be praying that happens and maybe the federal government comes to your aid. We'll be doing everything we can to help you. Chris and Jolene Logan, God bless you both. Thank you for coming on the program tonight. Thank you so much for having us. Absolutely. And again, this kind of stuff works to get politicians pushed in the right direction. Even Democrats in California, I would think if they would see that segment, would do something about this. It's people, man. People. All right, we got more coming up next. Stick with me. Looking for a smarter choice for dental implants? Meet the contact dental implant system from Biotech Dental. Trusted by clinicians across Europe and now available in the US With a single prosthetic connection, streamlined surgical kits, and seamless digital workflows, Contact makes every step easier. It's clinically proven, intuitively designed, and surprisingly affordable. See for yourself why more dentists are switching to Biotech Dental's contact system. Visit biotechdental.com today to learn more. That's biotechdental.com. hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. All right, folks, you want a quick fix when it comes to health, or do you want lifelong solutions? I go with lifelong solutions because they last watch. I started this because I wanted to get off my blood pressure medicine. Several years ago, I was on three. My. My blood pressure was stroke level, but my blood pressure is going down. I have arthritis in my hands. The swelling's gone down. I don't have the pain in my hands when I driving. I have psoriasis on my scalp. And I saw a dermatologist for 15 years. They put me on Humira, which was $5,000 a month. That's getting better. I had a LPR reflux that's gone away completely. I don't have that at all anymore. It's great. I'm happy. Happy is an understatement. That's what happens. You get hydrated at a cellular level. Energized Health can help you do that. Energized health.com that's energized health.com as we do every Monday, we bring in the founder of Energized Health, John Jubilee is here. John, welcome to the program. Hey, Grant. Hey. Great to be here. And just want to quickly say to folks that, hey, we'll love to help you at Energized Health. But I really would like to take today, Grant, just to honor one of our friends, Charlie Kirk. And, you know, was honored to not only meet Charlie, but every week I was like, I'm on your show. I was on his show every week for about a year and a half. You know, I got, you know, my last few texts here from Charlie. You know, now they, you know, they mean a thousand times more to me. But I just want to honor, you know, him, Grant, and, you know, what he has done and will continue to do even in his death. You know, and I want to share an encouraging word with people, too. A lot of people might not know this, Grant, but I, you know, I just know that Charlie's lifetime goal was 20,000. Turning Point USA on campus. 20,000. He had 3,500, but his goal was 20,000, which was a big goal. Then Grant here, in just four days of him passing away, there's 35 or 38,000 new requests for campuses. Charlie Kirk's dream has come true before he was even off the planet for one week. And I know that Charlie would be thrilled to know that his lifelong dream actually came true. You know, that that really was his true dream. That's what he did everything he did for. And I do want to share one other, you know, kind of a private note, but it's probably out on the Internet by now. But, you know, before the election, Grant, Charlie Kirk shared with his pastor backstage. He said, pastor, please pray for me. He said, I really believe they want to kill me. He said, I really believe, you know, somebody may kill me. And he said, and if Trump doesn't get elected, I believe they may incarcerate me. But, Grant, look at the courage of this young man, 31 years old. He was looking at two options. Being incarcerated was the good one, or being killed. And he still never let his foot off the gas. He was going 100 miles an hour as fast as he could to help get Donald Trump elected to speak words of light and life and truth on these campuses to impact these young people's lives. He never hesitated. Even though he truly believed he could be killed, he knew he could be killed, and he still went full force, full power. And I truly, Grant, believe he is this generation's Martin Luther King. To those young people, he is their Martin Luther King. He's their messenger, and he's their martyr. Look, I agree with you 100%. It's the reason why he was such an inspiration to so many people. And I think what people behind the scenes are what people don't understand that behind the scenes, guys like you and me, John, we get to be friends. You and Charlie, you get to be friends because you. We deal with each other so often, whether it's work, but we also bond in common, common themes. And one of that was Christianity and religion. I know you're a spiritual guy. I know you're a great Christian. And I know Charlie obviously was too. And I'm sure that's part of the reasons why you two bonded as much as you did. And energized health is infused with all of that. And with that, John, I'll give you the last word here. Yeah, well, I just would encourage, you know, my. My fellow believers with this, that, you know, Charlie Kirk was looking at 2,000 people, and in one moment, he was looking at Jesus and saying to Jesus, what are you doing here? And Jesus said, well, actually, you change locations. So in a moment, a split second, Charlie Kirk. Charlie knew where he was going. Grant. He did not fear death. He did not fear death. He. He embraced his eternal destiny that God had for him. And I just want to encourage people that, you know what, he's in an amazing place with Jesus. He finished his race early, way too early. But amazingly, his destiny was fulfilled and exponentially accelerated. Even with something bad, only God could turn that into something good. Yeah. Great words of wisdom from John Jubilee, the founder of Energized Health. I'll just say this, John. It seems not the right place to give pitches, but if you just like what you hear from John, this is what Energized Health is all about. Energized health.com that's energized health dot com. John, it's always great having you on the program. Thank you. Great seeing you, brother. Absolutely great seeing you as well. And I mean it, folks. That's what they embody over there. Again, energized health.com all right. On a lighter note, Cracker Barrel has officially bent the knee again. I thought, I thought they stood up. They bend it again, I guess. Looking for a smarter choice for dental implants, Meet the Contact dental implant system from Biotech Dental, trusted by clinicians across Europe and now available in the US With a single prosthetic connection, streamlined surgical kits, and seamless digital workflows. Contact makes every step easier. It's clinically proven, intuitively designed, and surprisingly affordable. 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