STINCHFIELD TONIGHT SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025

Summary

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Stinchfield Tonight – September 22nd, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Grant Stinchfield (iHeartPodcasts)
Air Date: September 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Stinchfield Tonight tackles the fallout and conspiracy theories surrounding the recent assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Grant Stinchfield forcefully defends the innocence of Israel and President Trump amidst growing speculation, critiques leftwing rhetoric, and explores the outpouring of faith and unity at recent memorials. The episode includes interviews with Army Col. (ret.) Derek Harvey, Texas Rep. Nate Schatzline, policy analyst Kurt Couchman, and AMAC CTO Dave Kane, spanning topics from political violence to grassroots activism and fiscal policy. Throughout, the show maintains a tone of urgency, combative defense of conservative values, and celebration of Christian faith as a driving force for the American right.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Conspiracy Theories Surrounding Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

[00:23–06:27]

• Grant Stinchfield opens with a strong assertion that "Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk," pushing back on conspiracy theories sprouting from both the left and right. He reveals personal connections to Kirk and decries efforts to politicize his death:
  • "I am now witnessing a push, certainly from those on the right, to somehow capitalize off of Charlie Kirk's murder… Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk." [00:23]
  • "What's going on right now with the conspiracy theories...is being pushed to take away from Charlie Kirk's ultimate message and his great memorial that took place yesterday." [01:14]
• Stinchfield criticizes Candace Owens for promoting these conspiracies and notes, "There's a reason she wasn't invited [to the memorial]." [01:57]
• Mary Kathryn Hamm interjects: "Do not stop asking questions," [02:12] — met with Stinchfield’s warning not to let questioning become baseless speculation.

2. The Role of the Left and Media Rhetoric

[02:33–05:45]

• Stinchfield refutes the claim that "Trump is controlled by Zionists," declaring, "President Trump is not controlled by anyone. This is a man who controls every action coming out of the White House because he is in charge." [02:33]
• He blames Democrats and leftist rhetoric for inciting violence:
  • "If you want to look at an enemy from within, you only have to look at our United States Congress. There are Democrats that have encouraged would-be assassins..." [03:03]
• Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crockett are called out for "Nazi rhetoric" and alleged support of violence. Stinchfield is especially scathing toward Omar:
  • "Ilhan Omar...you belong in the garbage can of history." [04:27]

3. Debunking Israel Conspiracies with Col. Derek Harvey

[06:25–10:47]

• Col. Derek Harvey joins to denounce the theory of Israeli involvement:
  • "It's crazy. It's fantasy land talk. It's conspiracy talk." [06:50]
  • He frames the spread of such ideas as a coordinated effort by “Marxist leftists and Islamists...to drive a wedge between Israel and the United States.”
  • Suggests involvement of Antifa, LGBTQ, and other “violent groups” rather than a foreign plot.
• On claims Trump is also “controlled by Zionists,“ Harvey insists:
  • "He, you know, that's just poppycock and it's manipulation and innuendo because they don't have any facts..." [10:25]

4. The Memorial & Christian Forgiveness

[12:05–16:41]

• The show reflects on the emotional power of Charlie Kirk’s memorial, highlighting a moving moment:
  • Nate Schatzline quotes Jesus from the cross: "Forgive them for they not know what they do." [12:13]
• Stinchfield admits his struggle to forgive and relates it to his faith:
  • "I can't forgive him. And maybe this is where I lack as a Christian...I don't wish violence...but I don't wish them [leftists] success in their jobs." [13:10]
  • He calls for “death” as the punishment for Kirk’s assassin, emphasizing that forgiveness doesn’t preclude justice.
• The unity and faith on display at memorial events (in Arizona and Fort Worth) are praised:
  • "Americans coming together to celebrate the life of one of the most instrumental conservatives that we have seen in decades, if not forever. Charlie Kirk." [15:53]

5. National Revival and Christian Identity

[17:53–22:30]

• Nate Schatzline describes recent events as a “national revival” and emphasizes faith as central to the conservative movement:
  • "Yesterday was not a memorial service. Yesterday was a spark and a flame of revival like I've never seen in my life." [17:53]
  • He recounts the rising occurrence of conversions and open faith on college campuses.
• Stinchfield and Schatzline stress a “radical love” response—contrasting peaceful, prayerful conservative gatherings to leftwing protests.

6. The State of American Politics – Budget Battles and Accountability

[26:02–34:36]

• Stinchfield addresses President Trump’s call for “retribution” and restructuring within the DOJ. He and Mary Kathryn Hamm call out perceived leftist hypocrisy in decrying DOJ weaponization.
  • "We are not going to tolerate gaslighting...the president is weaponizing the DOJ. It was Joe Biden..." [26:58]
• Policy analyst Kurt Couchman joins to discuss the federal budget impasse, advocating for real fiscal reforms:
  • "If we want this to work, then we actually need Congress to do A budget and get all the committees involved..." [30:55]
  • He claims partisanship on both sides enables institutional dysfunction.

7. Grassroots Patriotism and Local Activism

[36:54–43:56]

• The episode spotlights the upcoming RAV–AMAC Patriot Boot Camp, supporting local activism and practical political engagement.
• Dave Kane of AMAC details event goals: teaching people about grassroots organizing, running for local office, DEI battles at school boards, and more:
  • "We try to pick places that are deep in the communities...You can fight for your community. And if everyone does that...you have a nation saved." [38:47]
  • On engaging with local school boards: "We teach you how you can run for school board...how to become a certified poll watcher." [41:00]

8. Personal Well-Being and Christian Witness

[45:40–51:13]

• Stinchfield discusses Energized Health and links personal transformation to being an effective advocate for values.
• John Jubilee emphasizes the importance of a “healthy mind, body, and spirit,” and reveals Kirk himself had been interested in the program:
  • "Charlie Kirk was going to do energized health. Charlie was going to do it. So, you know, he doesn't need it now. He's got a perfect heavenly body." [48:00]

9. Crisis Among Youth & Moral Outrage

[53:47–54:37]

• The final segment highlights a disturbing high school football injury in Michigan as a symptom of decaying morals and lack of guidance:
  • "Where is that person’s parents? Where is the coach that allows that?...You ought to face criminal charges for doing that to somebody. Despicable." [53:47]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Grant Stinchfield:

  • "Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk. Is the assassination...bigger than the accused, Tyler Robinson? I believe it is. But I don't think it has anything to do with Israel." [00:23]
  • "You only have to look at our United States Congress. There are Democrats that have encouraged would be assassins..." [03:03]
  • "Ilhan Omar, you are so disrespectful...Forget about the dustpan of history. You belong in the garbage can of history." [04:27]

• Colonel Derek Harvey:

  • "It's crazy. It's fantasy land talk. It's conspiracy talk." [06:50]
  • "There is not one fact, not one data point that points to anything other than...some disturbed kids probably tied up with Antifa and LBGTQ or transgender violent groups..." [07:33]
  • "Absolutely not. [Trump]...that's just poppycock and it's manipulation and innuendo because they don't have any facts..." [10:25]

• Nate Schatzline:

  • "Yesterday was not a memorial service. Yesterday was a spark and a flame of revival like I've never seen in my life." [17:53]
  • "The life of Charlie Kirk truly woke up a generation...The death of Charlie Kirk didn’t just wake them up. It radicalized them...Radicalization...means that we unapologetically commit to speak the truth, even if it costs us our life." [19:33]

• Dave Kane (AMAC):

  • "We try to pick places that are deep in the communities...You can fight for your community. And if everyone does that...you have a nation saved." [38:47]
  • "We teach you how you can run for school board...how to become a certified poll watcher." [41:00]

• John Jubilee:

  • "We are a mind, a body and a spirit. You know, we have all three, and all three are important. The spirit is the most important, as we all just learned through Charlie." [47:33]
  • "Charlie Kirk was going to do energized health. Charlie was going to do it. So, you know, he doesn't need it now. He's got a perfect heavenly body." [48:00]

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Timeline of Important Segments

• [00:23] – Opening: Addressing conspiracies about Kirk’s assassination
• [02:33] – On Trump, Zionists, Congressional rhetoric, and aggressions from the left
• [06:27] – Interview with Col. Derek Harvey: Dismantling Israel conspiracy theories
• [12:05] – Memorial highlight: Calls for forgiveness
• [17:53] – Texas Rep. Nate Schatzline on faith resurgence post-Kirk’s death
• [26:02] – Discussing Trump, DOJ, and calls for accountability
• [29:47] – Kurt Couchman on budget gridlock and institutional reform
• [36:54] – AMAC and RAV’s grassroots boot camp event for Patriots
• [45:40] – Energized Health and connecting personal health to activism
• [53:47] – Disturbing football game incident as commentary on today’s youth

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

• The episode is impassioned and confrontational, stressing a deep distrust for mainstream narratives and leftist politics.
• A call for faith, forgiveness, activism, and unity through the lens of Christian principles and patriotism resonates throughout.
• The tragic death of Charlie Kirk is framed as both a rallying point for the conservative movement and a springboard for spiritual revival.
• The show positions “the left” and supposed conspiracies as existential threats, while repeatedly celebrating grassroots engagement and personal resilience.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking comprehensive insight into the episode’s core themes, leading discussions, and emotional resonance—without advertisement, promotions, or filler.

Transcript

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, good evening, everyone. Welcome to Stinchfield. There is an issue that I want to talk about that I feel very strongly about. I am now witnessing a push, certainly from those on the right, to somehow capitalize off of Charlie Kirk's murder. Let me say this definitively. Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk. Now, I understand many of you out there maybe want Israel to have killed Charlie Kirk. I don't know why you would want that. As you know, I'm a big defender of Israel. Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk. Is the assassination of Charlie Kirk bigger than the accused, Tyler Robinson? I believe it is. I believe most certainly there are evil forces behind the individual that now stands accused of killing Charlie Kirk. But I don't think it has anything to do with Israel. Now, I knew Charlie Kirk. I considered Charlie Kirk a friend. And I know Charlie Kirk was a lover of Israel. He was a defender of Israel. And what's going on right now with the conspiracy theories? I have talked to those that are close to Charlie Kirk's family, friends and associates at Turney Point usa, and they are beside themselves at the idea that these conspiracy theories are being pushed, specifically the one about Israel is being pushed to take away from Charlie Kirk's ultimate message and his great memorial that took place yesterday. So, again, I have great respect for Candace Owens, but Candace Owens is at the forefront of all of this. There's a reason why she wasn't invited. Was not invited to speak yesterday, and it's not this Candace.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

So do not stop asking questions.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, there is a reason they're doing this. They want, like, oh, just not.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Not until. Not until there's this memorial thing in Arizona, which is not a funeral, it's a memorial event.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Okay.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

That is, by the way, in large.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Part, from what I understand, being controlled by the White House.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Trump is controlled by Zionists.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So now she's turning on President Trump. President Trump is not controlled by anyone. This is a man who controls every action coming out of the White House because he is in charge. And yes, President Trump, like me, is a big supporter of Israel. You can disagree with that all you want, but President Trump isn't controlled by anybody. What's happening right now is the Kirk family. Those inside Turning Point USA are not happy about all of this. Now, I would say this. If you want to look at an enemy from within, you only have to look at our United States Congress. There are Democrats that have encouraged would be assassins to go commit violence against great conservatives like Charlie Kirk. This whole Nazi rhetoric is designed to Inspire people to go out and use violence against us. Michael Savage, great radio host, friend of mine, he's a guy I trust, he said this about the idea of Israel being behind this. So she says that Netanyahu killed Charlie.

[Chris Kunahan]

Kirk or Israel killed Charlie Kirk, more specifically.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, let me ask you something. If that was true, how long do you think Candace Owens would be breathing? Look, Israel blows up terrorists with pagers. They're not going to use some 20 something year old dating a transgender who knows what to go carry out. An assassination just isn't in Israel's model of doing things. I'm with Michael Savage on this. And again, you get to the threats, they're in the United States Congress because people like Ilhan Omar, I believe she supports jihadism from inside the United States Congress. What I find jarring is that there are so many people willing to excuse the most reprehensible things that he said, that they agree with that, that they're willing to have monuments for him. But I am not going to sit here and be, be judged for not wanting to honor any legacy this man has left behind. That should be in the dustpin of history and we should hopefully move on and forget the hate that he spewed every single day. The dustpan of history. Ilhan Omar, you are so disrespectful. You were so anti American and you are so pro radical jihadism. Holy war, we know this. With your ties to Somali, to the Somalis, you belong in the garbage can of history. Forget about the dustpan of history. And then you got people like Jasmine Crockett. See, they all support each other by pushing this, this craziness that we're all Nazis to get us all killed. She refuses to apologize for using words like that because she knows it gets her publicity. Watch.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

I am using that language because it is accurate language. When we see the consolidation of power, when we see them trying to chill speech of jokesters, when we're seeing all of this, that is a playbook out.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Of Hitler and I won't deny it. So those of us on the right want to push somehow that Israel's responsible for Charlie Kirk's death or what? Are we forgiving that nonsense? We forgiving all of that? Just pushing that aside. Come on people, wake up to the real problems we face in America today. And it's coming from those on the left and the radicalism and violence that they continue to push on a daily basis. I want to bring in now former special assistant to President Trump, army colonel retired Derek Harvey is back with us. Colonel Harvey, it's great to have you on the program.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Thanks for addressing this issue.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right, Colonel. I hate that I even have to. But I have great trust in you. You're so knowledgeable at everything that happens in the Middle east, globally, specifically from a military perspective, but also from a national security State Department perspective as well. This idea that Israel would kill Charlie Kirk, how preposterous is this?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, it's crazy. It's fantasy land talk. It's conspiracy talk. And I think you just have to look at where this is coming from and look at some of the timing around it. You've got the Marxist leftists and you've got the Islamists, and they have been consistently trying to drive a wedge between Israel and the United States for years. And during this current uproar about the death of Charlie Kirk, they've orchestrated a massive effort to try and tie his murder to maga. And it's been contorted in so many ways with so many false facts and just craziness out there. And I think there's some good articles that lay that out. But on the right, what we have is foreign policy advisor Col. MacGregor, who is a key advisor to Tucker Carlson. And Tucker Carlson and what he said walked right up to the line without calling out the Jews as behind his murder, but he walked right up to it at the memorial yesterday. And then others that have, you know, been throwing that around and saying that America is owned by Israel. And, you know, there is not one fact, not one data point that points to anything other than what you addressed earlier in the show, which is this is, you know, some disturbed kids probably tied up with antifa and LBGTQ or transgender violent groups, online inspirational type stuff, who were behind this attack. And that's going to be investigated. But there were a lot of false things put out about that, too.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Sometimes things just are what they seem. And I know because we have such a distrust of the government, people are hungry for a conspiracy theory. I think this goes deeper, this push to vilify Israel in all of this. I think there's a giant anti Israel lobby that may be paying for some of these messages. Colonel Harvey, what do you think?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, I look at this effort went into overdrive to attack Israel and in particular Netanyahu with money and the influence machine paid for by the Qataris and their tens of billions of dollars and. And their tools that they have in capitals in Europe as well as in the United States and their fellow travelers like Ilian Omar and others that are part of the Leftist Marxist alliance in the United States. And their goal under Biden and under Obama was to undermine the U. S. Israeli relationship, which are, you know, keep in mind, I think you and I would agree that Israel is the United States number one ally and they've proven it time and time again over the years. The United States has restrained Israel and many times Israel has been held back so much by the United States administration was holding up arms and other things. But the bottom line is our number one ally and our key player in the region has been Israel. And they are out to undermine that because they're defenders of Western civilization, just like the United States is.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Lastly, I'll ask you this idea that somehow President Trump is controlled by Zionists in the White House and he's now surrounded by people and he's not allowed to make a decision. You worked for President Trump. I don't think he's controlled by anybody. Do you, Colonel Harvey?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Absolutely not. He, you know, that's just poppycock and it's manipulation and innuendo because they don't have any facts, they don't have any evidence. They throw out assertions and twist a story and say some things in an article, but they don't have anything to back up their assertions. It's poppycock.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah. Colonel Derek Harvey, it's always great having you on the program. I'm sorry it's about a conversation like this, but really it's a conversation that needs to be had on an outlet like Real America's voice. Colonel, thank you.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Thank you.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right. Absolutely. I know I'm going to get flooded with emails from all of you. You're going to be telling me, look at the facts. I'm telling you right now, don't bother. Email me. You're not going to change my mind on this. And that's okay. We can agree to disagree on things, but I'm going to lay it out for you. Why? I don't think that's true. I do want us focus though, on the bigger picture of the radical right, the billion, excuse me, the radical left. Who's funding the radical left in America, what billionaires are behind it and the violence that is now being enacted against conservatives. I want to see where the money goes. I really do. We shall see. All right. Yesterday, what an amazing ceremony, rally, memorial, I don't know what to call it. It was all of the above revival, really, that's almost what it was, was an old fashioned revival. One that we'll often see in Texas where I broadcast from Charlie Kirk's Memorial was absolutely fabulous. And as you know by now, this is the soundbite that stole the show.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

On the cross, our Savior said.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Father.

[Nate Schatzline]

Forgive them for they not know what they do.

[Grant Stinchfield]

That man, that young man, I forgive him. An amazing moment, and it's one that has everybody talking, including myself, because I can't forgive him. And maybe this is where I lack as a Christian, that I need to do a better job, because in many respects, I fall in line with how President Trump feels about this. I think President Trump speaks for many of us also, though impressed with Erica Kirk, his opponents, he wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that that's the not right. But I can't stand my opponent. Charlie's angry. Looking down, he's angry at me. Now, he wasn't interested in demonizing anyone. He was interested in persuading everyone to the ideas and principle. Clearly, it's true your political opponent is different than someone who assassinates your loved one or a conservative leader. But I understand what President Trump is saying. I don't have any respect for those on the left. A guy like Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi, I don't wish them success at all. Now, I don't wish violence on them. I don't wish illness on them. I don't wish any of that to come on them, but I don't wish them success in their jobs. In fact, I root for their failure to prove that what we're doing is the right thing. Now, as for an assassin, just because Erica Kirk forgives the assassin and my Lord, what an amazing thing to do, doesn't mean you absolve the assassin of punishment. You can still forgive someone, and it doesn't mean they don't have to be punished for this. And I believe the punishment should be death. In all of this, one of the most amazing moments to me, and I can show it to you, was President Trump and Erica Kirk towards the end of all of this. The strength and the rock that President Trump is to both Erica and to the nation was really amazing to watch. And you watch them up close together. She leaned her head onto his head, and you could see that President Trump brought some sense of solace to Erica Crook, if that's even possible at a time like this, really. That was an amazing scene. But it wasn't just in Arizona. There were amazing scenes like this all across America, including in Fort Worth, Texas, where I was Saturday night. Again. You could call it a revival, call it a rally, call it a march, call it a memorial. I don't know. It was all of those things. Americans coming together to celebrate the life of one of the most instrumental conservatives that we have seen in decades, if not forever. Charlie Kirk. Folks, they killed them to crush our spirit. Let me tell you something. Our spirit isn't crushed. It's only gotten stronger, bigger, greater. A love for Jesus like you've never seen before. Usa. Usa. Usa. How important is today? Oh, man, this is monumental. This is history in the making. Here we are in Fort Worth town square and we are praying for what we believe in, which is freedom, truth, liberty and life with the Lord. Amen. We mourn Charlie Kirk, but we also celebrate him celebrating Charlie Kirk's life and Jesus. Go to heaven, brother. You know it's gonna be a celebration. It's a homecoming, my man.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

This is the real heart of our country. It's not what the news stations show. This is reality.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I'm Charlie Kirk. We gotta keep this going. Don't let, let it go away. Don't let him die. Usa. Usa. Usa. Let me draw a contrast between us and them. When we sing the national anthem, they're burning down autozones. We sing the national anthem and we pray. God bless America. This is how you do it decently. The blue back, the blue back, the blue. I'm in Fort Worth, Texas, and there's no place I would rather be on a Saturday night than right here. Well, one of my friends there said, when you go to heaven, you better believe it's going to be a celebration. Absolutely. Well, somebody who was at that celebration, Republican Texas State Representative Nate Schatzline is with us. Nate, welcome back to the show.

[Nate Schatzline]

Oh, Grant, always an honor to be with you. Let me tell you something. You said it already, but we are in a national revival. And I don't care what anyone says, Yesterday was not a memorial service. Yesterday was a spark and a flame of revival like I've never seen in my life. I mean, we were there watching as the gospel was shared to over 200 million people in that moment, not just by a pastor. Pastor Rob McCoy did an amazing, amazing job ministering the gospel. But then you see Vice President JD Vance step up and begin to give a clear presentation of the gospel. In fact, here's what he says. I've never talked more about Jesus Christ than I have in the last two weeks. You've got Tucker Carlson talking about Jesus. You've got Tulsi Gabbard talking about Jesus. This really was a monumental moment to show that Charlie Kirk was not a political pundit. He wasn't a politician like me.

[Grant Stinchfield]

He.

[Nate Schatzline]

He really was the greatest evangelist to college campuses we have ever seen. It's amazing. So amazing.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You were with me on. On Saturday night in Fort Worth, Texas, and then you flew to Phoenix, Arizona, to go to Charlie Kirk. We'll call it a revival, because that's what it was. One thing that I saw in Fort Worth, and I'm curious, and I'm sure it was. It's the greatest thing to witness Americans come together as if everybody knew each other. I'm walking the streets with absolute strangers in Fort Worth, and everybody is smiling with each other, handshakes, hugs, you name it. It's like a giant family. The left doesn't act like this. Representative Schatzline. Not even close.

[Nate Schatzline]

No, you're right. I mean, I said this at the rally that night, by the way. Over 3,000 people, very short notice. And this is happening everywhere. It's happened on college campuses. This is happening in downtown, downtown metropolitan areas that are really. They vote blue. And yet here we see patriots rising up. The silent majority are speaking up. But I said this. I said the life of Charlie Kirk truly woke up a generation that's Gen Z and Gen Alpha. But the death of Charlie Kirk didn't just wake them up. It radicalized them. But radicalization in the conservative movement, especially as Christians, does not mean we burn cars. It doesn't mean we burn down buildings. It doesn't mean we riot or cause violence. It actually means that we unapologetically commit to speak the truth, even if it costs us our life. And let me tell you something. That's when love starts to be spread. Radical love. A radical love that an Erica Kirk could get up there on that stage and say, this young man, I forgive him. I've never heard radical love like that. That was the gospel.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, they burned down a Wendy's. We break out in prayer and song. There's a radical difference right there in and of itself. Let me play a clip from you. This is this guy, schmucknish, Common cable network pontificator. He talked about this idea of this rise of. Of Christianity right now that we're seeing. He's not happy about it. Roll it. Although it's interesting to note, because if you should see signs of religion playing a role that would be violative of the establishment clause, that would be grounds for Concern in my book. I'll let you comment on this. I will tell you this. This entire nation, our founding fathers, our Constitution, was founded on exactly what we were talking about at all of these revivals. And in fact, it is a Judeo Christian country and we ought to be proud of it. I'll give you the floor.

[Nate Schatzline]

Nate Grant, you said it best. This is a Christian nation. Our founders created this nation to be a Christian nation. In fact, I hate when people talk about the separation of church and state to being anything other than what it was intended to be was to keep the state out of our church. Not meant to keep Christians from invading and affecting policy. This is a big deal. We're seeing not just thousands gathering, but we're seeing hundreds In Fort Worth, we just saw hundreds give their life to Christ the other night. We're watching his campuses. Look, I was on University of Texas's campus, which isn't exactly the bastion of conservatism, but we went and we spoke and I watched just four individuals, college students, rather than going to a frat party or giving their life to Christ, revive. Revival is breaking out on campuses. And here's what I would say, and Charlie always said this as well. A nation founded on Christian principles is a nation that will last. Every single one of these policies that we're fighting for in the America first movement is a biblical principle. And I think our nation's gonna thrive. This is the American revival.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, I agree with you 100%. Nate Schatzline, where can people find you on social media?

[Nate Schatzline]

Aitshatzline, on X or Instagram or Facebook. Thank you so much, Grant. And look, we're just getting started. I truly believe this spiritual revival happening.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I am right there with you, my friend. Thank you for coming on tonight. Always good to see you.

[Nate Schatzline]

Always honored.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely honors mine. And he is right. Look, in God we trust. Everywhere in our history of this great nation of ours, God is right there. You want to talk about a problem with the left? There is no God in their lives. None. That's the issue. All right. When inflation jumps and you hear the national debt is over $37 trillion, you ever think maybe now might be a good time to buy some gold? Whether as a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, or just sensible diversification, Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold. And from now on until September 30, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 in free metals for first time buyers to claim eligibility. Start the process. Request an info kit Right now, just text America to the number 989-898. Plus Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for those free metals. That's up to 10,000 bucks. Claim your eligibility, get your free info kit, text America to the number 989-898. A big thanks to our friends at Birch Gold. Democrats are trying to force a government shutdown unless they get Republicans to cave on their $1 trillion wish list. We get into that next.

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Welcome back, everyone. So over the week, President Trump addressed what we all want. Retribution. President Trump in regards to Pam Bondi. Who should she focus on as far as bringing accountability? Everybody, really. It's a big office. She's doing a good job, but focus on everybody. There are a lot of crooked people that were here before me and people that almost destroyed our country. If I didn't win this election, our country would be destroyed. We wouldn't have a country right now. So President Trump had a true social post that sent the left into the stratosphere saying, hey, the time is now. We got to get busy on prosecutions. And I do believe we have to get busy on prosecutions. So the left wing media, of course, the corporate media, is freaking out about this. Well, Caroline Levitt, the president's spokesperson, addressed this today in the White House briefing room.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

We are not going to tolerate gaslighting from anyone in the media or from anyone on the other side who is trying to say that it's the president is weaponizing the doj. It was Joe Biden and his attorney.

[Grant Stinchfield]

General who weaponized the doj.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Joe Biden used this sacred American institution to go after his political opponent in the middle of an election year. And you look at people like Adam Schiff and like James Comey and like Letitia James, who the president is rightfully frustrated. He wants accountability for these corrupt fraudsters.

[Grant Stinchfield]

She's spot on, Boy, isn't it the pot call in the kettle black somehow weaponizing the doj. Look at what they did to us. So I'm going to play it only because it's one of my favorite sound bites of all time. My buddy Cash Patel, the now director of the FBI, handing it to Adam Schiff. This is what we want. Followed by handcuffs, of course, providing historic reform and combating the weaponization of intelligence by the likes of you. And we have countlessly proven you to.

[Nate Schatzline]

Be a liar in Russiagate in January 6th.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You are the biggest fraud to ever.

[Nate Schatzline]

Sit in the United States Senate. You are disgraced to this institution and an utter coward.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Now, let him be the the biggest fraud to sit behind bars, too, because he's talking about Adam Schiff. And Adam Schiff's a fraud. Comey is a fraud. You got all of them that are frauds, including Chuck Schumer, by the way, who now is holding up, keeping the government open. I believe we need to stay on this course of doing our best to cut spending. Well, the Democrats want a $1.6 trillion increase in our budget. They want to save NPR. They want to dole out all kinds of money to illegal aliens. And we get this from Chuck Schumer. And I hope and pray that Trump will sit down with us and negotiate a bipartisan bill. That's how it's always been done in the past. That's how shutdowns have been avoided in the past.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

And if he doesn't, I'm just confirming here, you will vote no. Is that correct?

[Grant Stinchfield]

We are hoping, Dana. We are hoping that he will negotiate with us. Look, so the Republicans in the House came up with another continuing resolution. What's the saying that we say all them kick the can down the road. I'm tired of that saying. I don't like crs. The Democrats voted against it, by the way, in the United States Senate. So, you know, what they're doing is playing politics right now. So where do we go from here? We haven't talked about the budget and this idea that the government could shut down again. I want to bring in senior fellow on fiscal policy for Americans for Prosperity. Kurt Couchman is with us. Kurt, welcome to the program.

[Kurt Couchman]

Hey, Grant, thanks for having me back.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely, Kurt. So I'm sure you're like me. I'm not a fan of continuing resolutions. I'm not a fan of increasing budgets. We need to be cutting spending right now in Washington. How do you see all this playing out?

[Kurt Couchman]

Well, there are a couple different layers here. First is the immediate fight. Democrats are proposing that we spend an additional $1.5 trillion on a whole variety of things. And Republicans are saying, no, we're going to have clean continuing resolution that gets us to almost Thanksgiving. So that's layer one. Layer two is why do we have shutdowns in the first place and what's bad about them and how do we stop them? And then the third layer is what's wrong with the federal budget situation and how do we get back, get it back on track?

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right. Just the sheer fact that we're talking about a continual resolution to Thanksgiving. And so you know what? That happens. Then it starts to fight all over again as we're going into the Thanksgiving holiday. And I guess you use vacation time time as. As a little push for some of these lawmakers because they want to go home, too. But still, I'm tired of all this. Why can't we just get a budget vote on it and then do it all over again the next year?

[Kurt Couchman]

That is exactly the question that I ask. I mean, Congress doesn't do a budget. Congress does appropriations, and that's important. But it's only a quarter of spending, none of the revenue, none of the tax expenditures. And actually, there's a lot of nonsense spending that's built in there. So if we want this to work, then we actually need Congress to do A budget and get all the committees involved, look at all the spending, all the revenue, all the tax breaks. And then you can actually manage things and get more people involved and probably have a more successful outcome every year while solving problems a little bit at a time. But we don't have anything like that and that's why this process keeps breaking down.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah. Sad part is we don't have anything even close to looking like that. This is why the American people are getting frustrated. You would think Republicans now control Congress, Senate and the House and the White House. Of the course. We've got the 60 vote threshold in the Senate, which is is a problem. This is President Trump talking about this battle that is looming. Everything is going so well and the Democrats want to close it down. They want crime. I mean, if you think about it, they want crime. We don't. They want open borders, we don't. They want everything.

[John Jubilee]

They want.

[Grant Stinchfield]

They want men playing in women's sports. They want transgender for everybody. As far as I don't know how they get elected, I don't know how they get any votes. I agree with him on all of that, Kurt, But I also think Republicans play a problem in all of this too.

[Kurt Couchman]

Oh, yeah. There's no question that there's a bipartisan problem in terms of letting the wasteful nonsense spending continue and not being able to challenge it. But we've had a number of different combinations of political power and the problem seems to stay and sometimes get a lot worse and sometimes a little bit worse. So it seems clear to me that we've got a problem with our institutions and once we fix the institutions, then we'll be able to get a lot better stuff done when the right people are in power.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right, so look, we've only got a minute left in this and I'm gonna ask you a question that we probably could spend a whole hour on. But how do we fix the institution? Is it simply a matter of elect of getting some of these old guard out and new make America great again conservatives in?

[Kurt Couchman]

Well, I'm glad you asked. I have a new book on this subject. It's called Fiscal Democracy in America. It is focused on balanced budget amendments, but also the implementing legislation and the fixes to the system like we're looming. We're looking at a shutdown right now and there's a great bill called the Prevent Government Shutdowns act that goes back to the pre Jimmy Carter status quo where there were not shutdowns. They weren't possible. That was a big power grab that they did and the effects have been terrible. The comprehensive budget that we were talking about, the entire budget being managed every year by Congress, that's another really important thing. And there's a bill for that as well. It was bipartisan last Congress. It's going to be reintroduced soon. So all of these things have been built. We're working on building the coalition and very optimistic that they can get passed and that we can get a lot more good things out of Congress.

[Grant Stinchfield]

I love it. I personally think some of these members of Congress from both sides love the drama over all this, which is one reason why they don't really want to go away, because it gets them all some publicity. Tell me the name of the book again and where people can get it, because this to me sounds like a very important read. Kirk Couchman.

[Kurt Couchman]

Well, thank you. It's Fiscal Democracy in America. How a Balanced Budget Amendment Can Restore Sound Governance. It's on the major online bookseller platforms. You can find it on the Springer Nature website as well. That's the publisher, so. And you can find me on Twitter and LinkedIn and Instagram under IRK Couchman.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right. @ Kurt Couchman. Kurt, it's always great having you on the program. Thank you.

[Kurt Couchman]

Thanks for having me.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Absolutely. See, the reality is there are things Congress can do to make sure this doesn't happen again, but they don't want to do it because in some respects, there's power in all of this drama. They know that people have to come to them and then kiss the boots and the spending and they love every single little bit of it. There's only a few members of Congress that don't. Most of them appear on this program. The others, not so much. All right. The number one question Patriots ask is how do I get politically involved? Well, stick around. We're going to talk about that next.

[Chris Kunahan]

You're listening to Leaffilter Radio and the guru of gutter protection himself, Chris Kunahan, is here to take your most pressing leaf related questions.

Hey, everybody, Chris here. Understand we have Ron on the line. Ron, where are you calling from?

Oh, Ron, are you calling from a ladder?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, I was. I wanted to ask Chris what I need to do to get my gutters ready to have leaffilter installed.

[Chris Kunahan]

Oh, Ron, you don't have to do anything. A leaffilter trusted pro will come out and clean out your gutters, realign and seal your gutters and install leaffilter, America's number one gutter protection system.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So I didn't need to get on this ladder.

[Chris Kunahan]

Ron, Leaffilter Trusted Pros are in your neighborhood and ready to help. Just visit leaffilter.comday to schedule your free gutter inspection and get up to 30% off.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Thank goodness. What was that site?

[Chris Kunahan]

That's leaffilter.com day for your free gutter inspection today. See representative for warranty details. Promotion is 20% off plus a 10% senior or military discount. One discount per household.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Foreign. Welcome back, everyone. You know, one of the ancillary benefits of a revival like we saw with Charlie Kirk is you get like minded people all in one place and you can share ideas. Now, it's upsetting to me that we had to do it in a place to memorialize Charlie Kirk, but anytime this happens, it's absolutely a fabulous opportunity to move this country in the right direction. So RAV and AMAC are partnering up to get this boot Camp for Patriots event this year. Saturday, September 27th at noon. Okay. And it is a great event. It's at Virginia's Patrick Henry College. This is about educating all of us, getting together with like minded folks so we are prepared during the next election cycle on how to win. This is last year, one of the attendees talking about how grateful she was to be there. They help you learn what to do to support your country. They help you learn what to do support your life. The support for social media, obviously I'm in it. I don't need that. But there's a lot of people that do. All right. You want to hear the best benefit of all? Maybe not the best, but a pretty darn good benefit. My buddy John Solomon will be there speaking. My buddy Ben Berkwam will be there speaking. And a whole host of other great speakers. Well, I want to bring in now to discuss this. Chief Technology officer for amac, the association of Mature American Citizens, an organization I am a member of. Dave Kane is with us. Dave, welcome to the program.

[Dave Kane]

Thanks, Grant. Thank you for having me on the show so I could tell all the people about these wonderful events we've been holding in partnership with Rav. We love Rav. We love you guys. It's such a great partnership. So you did a pretty good job explaining it. That's exactly right. We hold these events. This will be our fifth boot camp. We hold them all over the United States, Florida, Bucks County, Pennsylvania. We had one right here on Long island where we're based out of in Ronkonkoma. And now we're going to Patrick Henry College, as you mentioned, in Virginia. Patrick Henry College is a beautiful college. I got the opportunity to meet some of the students that were there. They were getting ready for classes. They were just about to start the following week. And the difference between a college like that and the normal ones, you see, everyone seems so respectful. They look you in the eye, they say, hello, how is your day going? You can really see the difference. So we try to pick places that are deep in the communities and then start talking about stuff not only that's important to the nation, but that's important to their communities as well because you don't have to fight for the whole nation. You can fight for your community. And if everyone does that and watches over, then you have a nation saved. So we're doing it in Virginia, like you said. Ben Burnquam is going to be there, the great John Solomon. John hasn't missed a single one yet. Him and our CEO Rebecca Weber co host it together. It's a lot of fun. It's four hours of some camaraderie, like, like minded people, conservative and faith based values, which are American values, as you know, Grant. And we're just looking to have a really another successful event and we invite everyone to come on down 12 to 4 Patrick Henry College this Saturday. It's going to be a great show.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, people have heard me preach over and over again that local politics are maybe the most important politics that affect your life, especially school board races, city council races that we often forget when we've got midterms coming up or a presidential election coming up. How in depth do you guys get into local politics where you're talking about school board issues and city council issues.

[Dave Kane]

So for this particular one to, I'll answer it directly to this one. We have several panels. We have illegal immigration, which is still a problem in this country even though President Trump did a fantastic job and a rapid job of securing the border. Now we're dealing with the Aftermath of it, as everyone knows. We also have panels on the woke virus. We call it the woke virus, the secret indoctrination of our children in schools. So for a panel like that, we have, not only do we have experts in that field, but we bring in, we have this one woman that's going to be on the panel. Her name is Stephanie Lundquist, Aurora. She was a, she was the mother of a school child that the school tried to transition without her knowing and she was furious and she did something about it. And now she's a, she's an activist and she goes to these school boards and she teaches people how to get in. And that's just it. You have to go, go to, if you can't go to the school board meeting, go to their website. Their website will tell you what their, you know, policies are. We went to our local, right here, the district I went to a really long time ago, but our grandchildren go to now. And it said right on there they practice DEI and things like that. So, you know, we teach you how you can run for school board members, local, like committee men. A lot of people don't even know what a committeeman is, let alone how to, how to apply to be one. We teach you on how to become a certified poll watcher. Another panel we're having is our AMAC action, our 501C4. We have programs that we call AMAC Action Delegates and ambassadors where you join up, you sign up. We have a very talented team of people that teach you. They give you the tools to work with and teach you how to become active in your local community politics and work on calls to action and bring other people within your community together to make that happen.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Yeah, it's all such important stuff. And I urge people to attend this Saturday, John Henry College, Patrick Henry. Where, Pat. Excuse me, Patrick Henry College. I'm sure John Henry College would be a great place too, but. Patrick Henry College Saturday, September 27 this is noon to 4pm and again, Dave Kane, we appreciate you coming on and certainly we appreciate the support that AMAC gives Rav. Let me tell people how they can get tickets and I appreciate you coming on the program today. Thank you. Here we go. AMAC US Boot Camp. That is how you get your tickets. AMAC US Boot Camp. And I will say this AMAC's a very important organization to be a member of. They do a lot of things like this in an effort to really help President Trump, help all of us, help Stitchfield's army, save a nation, which is really what we're doing and well on our way to of doing that. All right. It is time to reclaim your mind and legacy. We get into that next stick with.

[Chris Kunahan]

You're listening to leaff filter radio and the guru of gutter protection himself, Chris Kunahan is here to take your most pressing leaf related questions.

Hey, everybody, Chris here. I understand we have Ron on the line. Ron, where are you calling from?

Oh, Ron, are you calling from a ladder?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, I was. I wanted to ask Chris what I need to do to get my gutters ready to have leaffilter installed.

[Chris Kunahan]

Oh, Ron, you don't have to do anything. A leaffilter trusted pro will come out and clean out your gutters, realign and seal your gutters and install leaffilter, America's number one gutter protection system.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So I didn't need to get on this ladder.

[Chris Kunahan]

Ron, leaffilter trusted pros are in your neighborhood and ready to help. Just visit leaffilter.comday to schedule your free gutter inspection and get up to 30% off.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Thank goodness. What was that site?

[Chris Kunahan]

That's leaffilter.com day for your free gutter inspection today. See representative for warranty details. Promotion is 20% off plus a 10% senior or military discount. One discount per household.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen, Listen.

[Grant Stinchfield]

All right, welcome back, everyone. I'll tell you, it is so important that you take control of your life. One way I did it was with the energized health protocol. Fabulous. Lost 15 pounds in just over two weeks. Amazing when you get hydrated at a cellular level. Watch this. I just think this program is a great program only because, you know, I.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Feel it's like everything.

[Grant Stinchfield]

It's your mind, it's your body, it's the whole package.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

You can just follow it.

[Grant Stinchfield]

You can get right back on if you just, you know, stumble a bit. I just like the idea. It's natural. Sometimes you're, you're kind of gambling. If you want to try something that's not natural, you don't know what the health results are going to be. My mind is different. I feel like, you know, you feel like a different person. The person that you forgot for years, the person that you put off for years. It's life changing, right? Folks, I know you watch this program because you trust me, and I'm so grateful for that. You can trust the folks at Energized Health. It really did work for me. And it is all natural. There's no gimmicks, no crazy diet, no crazy workouts. And I love that she mentioned the mind as well. I want to bring in now the founder of Energized Health, John Jubilee is with us. John, welcome to the program.

[John Jubilee]

Thank you, Grant. Great to be here.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, it's great to see you, John. You know, I think everybody was so moved by Charlie Kirk. What happened to him then? We're calling it a revival that happened yesterday. And we're left thinking about how important our own bodies are, how important every day is. We don't know what the next day will bring. And it's important you take care of your bodies. And I thought maybe I'd ask you about the contrast your company and seeing what happened with Charlie and everybody kind of taking assessment of their lives lately.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah, well, I, I, I do love and celebrate Charlie Kirk and his life and his legacy. Grant. And, and we had a lot of shared a lot of shared values. And one of them was that we are a mind, a body and a spirit. You know, we have all three, and all three are important. The spirit is the most important, as we all just learned through Charlie. You don't know when is the last day of your life. So it's important. You better know Jesus as your savior because it could be one minute from now and the same thing that happened to Charlie could, could happen to anyone. Whether it's a car accident or, you know, just all kinds of things could happen to anybody. But number one is your spirit. But we want to have a healthy mind. We want to have a healthy mind so we have the clarity to fulfill and to live a joyful, content, peaceful life. But I'll say this, you guys all saw it. Charlie Kirk was that guy had a smile on his face every single day. Every single day. Maybe not every minute, but every day. He had a smile on his face because he had a healthy spirit, had a healthy mind, and he had a healthy body. And Grant, God is my Witness. I have a cell. I have a text from Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was going to do energized health. Charlie was going to do it. So, you know, he doesn't need it now. He's got a perfect heavenly body. But, you know, I'm thrilled to say that, you know, I've met, you know, Charlie in person. We had private conversation, we had a private text thread. But everyone can take the lead from Charlie Kirk of, hey, make sure when you live in life, have a healthy body, but have a healthy mind and have a healthy spirit for sure.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, I'll tell you, it speaks so much to your company, the people that you have supporting you. There's no doubt in my mind Charlie was right there. The text message, I can only imagine what that's like. Save it forever. You got other guys, like, you know, Wayne Rood, who's a buddy of mine, and so many of the hosts on Real America's Voice. It's gotta be somewhat amazing for you as the owner to see all these people who now back you, John.

[John Jubilee]

Well, you know what, Grant? It is deeply joyful and it's deeply gratifying, you know, because men like you and Charlie Kirk and Wayne Allen Root and you know, Eric Bolling and, you know, all the, all the amazing people that we have been able to help, that we know that we're helping them to have a. Not only a voice of truth, they already have a voice of truth, but they have a voice of clarity, a voice of strength, a voice of power, you know, to go on. And since you brought up Wayne, you know, Wayne is, you know, Grant's like us. We're like brothers, right? We're like brothers. We're like truly friends, even off camera. And Wayne loves to brag about, and he should be 61 years old and over. That guy got four TV shows, Grant, you know, after the age of 61 and you know, in TV, they want the 30 year old. They want the 30 year old, but why would they hire the 61 year old? Because they look like you, Grant. Or they look like Wayne. You know, you guys look, you know, 20, 30 years younger than you are. You got vitality and it's super joyful to get to help guys like you. But really, Grant, you know who I say the most important person in the world is? It's. You are. Every person should say, I am the most important person in the world because Jesus died for you, which makes you the vip.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Look, this is why energized health, so important to so many people. So we didn't talk about what's exactly surrounding it, but we're up on a break. Let me do this. You guys have a masterclass on your website. I'm going to tell people and push them there and know that they can trust the folks at energized Health. And I'm proud to be a small part in what they do over there. All right, so if you've been stuck in the cycle of dieting and gaining weight and feeling frustrated, it's time for a new path. Energized health.com okay. Energizehealth.com watch the free masterclass. Learn about intercellular hydration. Help you lose fat, tighten your skin, and reset your metabolism for good. That's Energized Health. All right. The nation's youth have serious issues. The latest example next.

[Chris Kunahan]

You're listening to leaffilter Radio. And the guru of gutter protection himself, Chris Kunahan, is here to take your most pressing leaf related questions.

Hey, everybody. Chris here. I understand we have Ron on the line. Ron, where are you calling from?

Oh, Ron, are you calling from a ladder?

[Grant Stinchfield]

Well, I was. I wanted to ask Chris what I need to do to get my gutters ready to have leaffilter installed.

[Chris Kunahan]

Oh, Ron, you don't have to do anything. A leaffilter trusted pro will come out and clean out your gutters, realign and seal your gutters and install leaffilter, America's number one gutter protection system.

[Grant Stinchfield]

So I didn't need to get on this ladder?

[Chris Kunahan]

Ron, Leaffilter trusted pros are in your neighborhood and ready to help. Just visit leaffilter.comday to schedule your free gutter inspection and get up to 30% off.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Thank goodness. What was that site?

[Chris Kunahan]

That's leaffilter.com day for your free gutter inspection today. See representative for warranty details. Promotion is 20% off plus a 10% senior or military discount. One discount per household.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Grant Stinchfield]

Welcome back, everyone. I want to show you some of the most disturbing video that I've seen in a long time. You can roll it, guys. This is in Michigan. I want you to watch carefully. That guy. That guy, just. What do you call it? A pancake? I don't know. He. He literally crushes this young student to JV football game. Two spinal fractures. They're saying the student underneath may never play football again. They do expect him to recovery, but playing again is questionable. Where is that person's parents? Where is the coach that allows that? They say it'll be held internally on how they'll handle discipline on this. You ought to face criminal charges for doing that to somebody Despicable. It's gonna do it for us. Stitchfields army rolls.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

This is an I Heart podcast.