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Andrew Colvett
In 1947, a group of Bedouins stumbled upon caves near Qumran, Israel, near the Dead Sea. Inside those caves were scrolls of ancient scriptures known as the Dead Sea Scrolls. Here at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C. i've come to experience this exhibition and learned how ancient history and faith join. Well, Dr. Duke, we are here at this remarkable Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition here, which is on loan from the Israel Antiquities Authority. Tell us, what is the significance of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Why do they matter today?
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Dr. Duke
Well, the Dead Sea Scrolls are our oldest Hebrew and Arabic manuscripts of the biblical text. The Old Testament is written mostly Hebrew, but also Aramaic. But these are our oldest copies before the scrolls were found. Our best manuscripts for the Old Testament dated to about 1000 AD. These texts, through paleography, through carbon dating and other things, date back to some of them to the second century BC. So that shaves off 1200 years of manuscript transmission. And in general, there's much fidelity between what we see at Qumran and the Dead Sea scroll caves and what we see a thousand years later.
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Andrew Colvett
So take me back to 1947, because that's about when they were discovered, right? Where was this? It was close to the Dead Sea, obviously. Were they hidden? Why were they hidden? And from whom?
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Dr. Duke
So in 1947, the way the story goes, and it's taken on legendary qualities, Bedouin were out looking for some lost goats. They threw a rock into a cave, heard a crash, and when they heard the crash, they said, there's something here we need to come look at. So they came back, found broken ceramic jars, and in those ceramic jars, they found our first set of scrolls, including the Great Isaiah Scroll. And the Great Isaiah scroll is preserved in all 66 chapters of the book of Isaiah. It's 24ft long, and it most likely would have been hidden in, in the jars. There was a lot of the other caves that were found that in the rush to leave because the Romans were coming through. So this group of Kumaron probably hid them in these 11 caves to, to leave, to then eventually come back and pick it up. But they never came back. I mean, unfortunate for them. They never returned to take the items out of the caves. For modern scholarship, it's good they never came back and took those items out because these are such a treasure. But again, they were trying to escape the Romans and eventually all died. Now, the, the Bedouin found the first caves, then archaeologists learned more about them, and then it became a race. Who's going to find the next cave? So it was from 1947 to 1956, that 11 different caves were found. So over that time, some of the caves had very few items, but something like Cave 4 had hundreds of scrolls. And when we say scrolls, very few of them were more than a column or two because of just the 2,000 years of erosion, 2,000 years of little critters eating things in the caves. But all total of those 11Ks, we have over 900 distinct documents that can be identified.
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Charlie Kirk
How remarkably accurate are they?
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Dr. Duke
Yeah, no, so what you do have is some variants, and the variants are usually very, very minor. So the Bible that you're reading today in English is being translated from the best manuscripts. And the Masoretic text of Isaiah and the great Isaiah scroll of Isaiah are ones that give us a lot of confidence. So when you read your biblical text, you might see footnotes in the bottom that will say Qumran reads or Dead Sea Scrolls read. You'll see how, in a lot of ways, how insignificant most of those quotes are. So it just gives us a lot of confidence that the Bible we're reading today is the same Bible that was being read 2000 years ago.
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Andrew Colvett
All right, tell us about this.
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Dr. Duke
This is actually a stone from the Western Wall when the Romans destroyed that part of Jerusalem. And it has been kind of accessorized around with then a faux wall, but is sitting similar to what you see in the Western Wall in Jerusalem. And we encourage our guests, if they want to leave a note or a prayer or something, and we will see people here just kind of pausing and reflecting.
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Nick Shirley
Yeah.
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Dr. Duke
And I think for the. For to conclude this whole experience saying, yes, you've seen a lot of history, a lot of archaeology, you've seen the oldest biblical text ever. But to kind of come back to this moment of spiritual reflection, like it's all for naught if it doesn't cause people to reflect a little bit on what is life really about.
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Andrew Colvett
And the beauty of this is that if you can't get to Israel right now, which most people can't, this is a place the museum they can come.
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Dr. Duke
Right. And what's wonderful is they want us to touch it and feel it. And that just again, gives us that sense of being connected to the land
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Blake
as much as possible.
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Dr. Duke
This would be filled with people.
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Blake
But basically the last two weeks been completely barren.
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Dr. Duke
Been completely barren because nobody is going, because we're having rocket fire. They've had some shrapnel coming from rockets that have been taken down, which all
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Andrew Colvett
the more significance of having this at the museum of the Bible so people can come and be able to do this, but they can't. In Israel currently, Absolutely.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Terrence Bates
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right, it is Good Friday, and it is a solemn day of remembrance of what our Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ, did for us and for all of you. And we're going to take time to remember that, starting now. Welcome, Blake.
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Blake
Howdy.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
So what is Good Friday exactly? It is, like I said, it's a solemn observance of Jesus suffering his trial, his crucifixion, his sacrificial death, his atoning death on the cross for our sins. We believe, as Christians, that today is the day that Jesus took our sin upon him, though he lived a perfect life and lived without sin, that he took our sins upon himself and paid for those, the ultimate sacrifice of his life. And that culminated with the crucifixion. And so we want to take some time to remember this and to remember what Charlie said about his faith in Jesus Christ. And we want to then transition over to an interview that I did with Andy Biggs, and then we'll kind of do the same thing in hour two. And then Blake conducted an interview with Nick Shirley. And so we're going to play all of that today and then some. But we want to talk about Good Friday because it is probably, besides Easter, the most important day on the Christian calendar.
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Blake
I think so. I mean, yeah, I would go for
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
that, but obviously you don't get Easter without Good Friday. And I was praying about this and thinking about what I wanted to do and what I wanted to say, especially everything that we've lived through. This is obviously our first Easter season without Charlie. And I think of him still. The first thing I think about in the morning is Charlie. And the last thing I think about before I go to bed is usually Charlie. And I think a lot of you out there probably feel the same way I do. And we still live in the shadow of our great friend who is a martyr, a Christian martyr. And his example is powerful, and it looms large over my life. And so we want to give this day to the Lord. And I want to read a verse from Isaiah 53. And when I think about what Good Friday means to me, this is what Good Friday is. And I think especially everything that happened to Charlie, I Think that he embodies so much of the Christian ethic and the life well lived. So Isaiah 53, written before the time of Jesus on this earth, and yet it points directly to him who has believed our message, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed. He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering and familiar with pain, like one free from whom people hide their faces. He was despised, and we held him in low esteem. Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering. Yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought us peace was upon him. And by his wounds we. We are healed. And that is essentially the core of the Christian message. On Good Friday. And we don't say good in a celebratory sense. We say good in sort of the Old English sense, pious, holy. It is a day to solemnly reflect on the sacrifices our Savior has made.
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Blake
Yeah, we. I was actually had it open for mine. It was slightly different wording because we use a different translation of the Bible. But they do read that in Catholic services on Good Friday every year. Basically the whole of that that keeps going. And you might remember, though he was harshly treated, he submitted and opened not his mouth like a lamb led to the slaughter or a sheep before the shearers. He was silent and opened not his mouth. Oppressed and condemned, he was taken away. And who would have thought any more of his destiny when he was cut off from the land of the living and smitten for the sin of his people? A grave was assigned him among the wicked, and a burial place with evildoers, though he had done no wrong nor spoken any falsehood. And it continues from there. And we have other special readings that we do. Usually you don't have a verse that you read in a usual Catholic service, this first reading Psalm, second reading Gospel. But they also incorporate a special verse just before they read the Gospel, which is on Good Friday. It's always the Passion according to John. And they say Christ became obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross, because of this. God greatly exalted on him and bestowed on him the name which is above every other name. That's from Philippians.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Well, and it wouldn't be the Charlie Kirk show without Charlie, reflecting on Easter, the team pulled this clip. I haven't seen it yet. I mean, I probably saw it when it happened, but I'm a little vague on the. On the details here, but let's play it SOT2.
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Charlie Kirk
So I love. I love Easter. I love the resurrection. And also, just everyone's clear. They say, oh, Easter is pagan. Hold on a second. The term Easter was a pagan term that was redeemed. But no, Easter itself is actually always aligning with the Jewish Passover Pesca, which is happening this week as well. That those two things are always overlaid with one another. And the resurrection and the promise of Jesus honestly, can be best described as a fresh start, as a reset. It's a beautiful idea and it's a truism that has captivated billions of people throughout time.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
It is really an amazing part about Easter, the Easter season, how it opens overlays with the Passover. Because obviously the Passover comes from the Genesis story of the Jews putting Exodus story, or Exodus, I'm sorry, the Exodus story where the Jews put the blood of a lamb over their doors so that the angel of death would pass over their house. And Jesus is our Passover lamb. And so it is the perfect embodiment of that story. And I love how scripture tends to echo Roman. Right? We see different themes and ideas that are once told in the Old Testament. You see them reflected or embodied perfectly in the life of Jesus.
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Blake
One of my favorite images that comes out of Good Friday and what it represents, it's from a church in modern day Istanbul. It's called the Korah Church. Throw up that image I sent you guys. And it's an image of what we believe Jesus was doing during the harrowing of hell, we call it, which is he dies, he resurrects a few days later. And what he is doing is he in the. He descended into hell. And what he did is that is what the redemption of Christ means. What that image is, is that is Jesus bursting open the coffins that hold Adam on one side and Eve on the other. That's Adam and Eve. That they have been separated from God for untold generations because of their sin. And that Jesus is bursting them out and he is liberating them so that they can be taken up to heaven with him, that he can redeem them for paradise. And it's one of the most powerful images you can have of what Jesus was accomplishing.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Beautiful. There is another clip of Charlie with you, so I gotta play it. SOT3.
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Nick Shirley
All right.
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Charlie Kirk
Have a great Easter weekend. Thank you, Blake, very much. Remember, he has risen. Please observe Good Friday and understand the significance of the suffering of our Lord. And I am not Catholic, but I will be doing the Stations of the Cross tonight. They have an outdoor Stations of the Cross in Arizona. Actually, it's pretty really neat.
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Blake
It kind of probably looks a little bit like Judea.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, exactly. God bless everybody. Shabbat Shalom and have a wonderful Easter.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
That's the perfect, like sort of ecumenical clip of Charlie the Evangelical doing the Catholic Stations of the Cross. So signing off with Shabbat Shalom, he
- [14:06]
Blake
had his very special way of approaching faith matters.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Rachel Holt
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Andy Biggs
Thanks, Andrew. Thank you very much.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
By the way, we talked so much. This is the last thing I'll say that the gal sitting in between us was like, do you want me to move? And I was like, no, please don't give up your aisle seat for this middle seat. But, Andy, tell the audience about who you are. Who is Andy Biggs? Because we know you in Congress, we know you on Fox News. But tell us, how'd you end up here?
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Andy Biggs
That's a long story. A series of misdecisions probably took me to Congress. But I was born and raised here, and I grew up in a politically active family, Andrew. And they were active at the grassroots level, just like everybody in this conference is today. And so they would. My mom would write letters to the editor, right. And we lived in Tucson, so Tucson wasn't really conservative. It's still not. And it's even worse today. But anyway, so she would draw fire. And back in those days, when you wrote a letter to the editor, your home address was included, if you remember this. I don't know if you remember. And I had a car. It was an Oldsmobile. It was bigger than this room that we're in. It wouldn't even fit in the driveway. And I would park it on the side. And I knew my mom had been on the radio or TV or the newspaper because people would come and try to throw eggs at our house over the car. But they couldn't make it. So my car was egged, spray painted with swear words. They stole my battery. The police officer would come in at a door. Two ain't them. Anyway. So I said, I will never, ever be involved in politics. It's just too ugly. And then I met my wife to be at a political event on a blind date. And we fell in love and got married just a few months after that. And Andrew, the rest is kind of political history.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
So your wife was a part of a political family?
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Andy Biggs
Yes.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
You also, your mom and your dad were activists, basically local, on the local level. It was in your DNA. So even though you said you weren't going to do it, you were just drawn to it like a moth to the flame, weren't you?
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Andy Biggs
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And I've had the same reaction as a moth to the flame has been largely. But no. I got a call one day, we moved into Gilbert, Arizona. At the time it was about 9,000 people. And somebody called me. New neighbor calls me and says, hey, Andy, are you, you know, is so. And so your mom? And I said, yes, is so and so your mother in law. And I said, yes. And he said, well, there's a political meeting. He says, you're probably pretty interested in politics. I said, no, no, no, I'm not. And he said, we're having a political meeting tonight. Will you come? And so we went. And it was. Oh my gosh, Andrew. It was like half the room didn't like this half of the room. It's kind of like our party today. This half didn't like this half. And it was better than reality tv. I mean, that's what it was. And we just stood there and media was there. It was at a legislative district meeting. And we left and we had a good time. And he called me the next month. You want to go again? Okay. And then that's how we got sucked into it. Right. And before too long, he's the president or chairman of the local district and I'm the secretary. And that's just how it is. We just were, you know, if you show up, people ask you to do something. And if you're. If you do it, you're reliable and they will trust you to do more. And that's really kind of what happened.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Breaking news from Real America's voice.
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Terrence Bates
Terrence Bates here now with breaking news involving an F15, an American fighter jet that was shot down over Iran. Here's some video from the scene that's just into our newsroom. We're told that the two crew members on board this fighter jet that was shot down over Iran were able to safely eject. One of those crew members has been rescued by US Special Forces. The second, however, is still being sought. There is an ongoing search for that second second crew member of the jet. We're also hearing that Iranian officials are looking for that second crew member and they're encouraging local folks in the region to also join the search for the American pilot or crew member who was on board that F15 jet that was shot down over Iran. This is apparently one of the first cases or the first case of an American jet being shot down over the war zone. And again, at this point, we do know that both pilots or both crew members were able to eject out of that plane as it was shot down. One of them has now been rescued. A second is still being sought by US Special forces as well as the Iranians. We'll continue to update you on this developing situation throughout the day.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Andy Biggs
Yes.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
So how long before you were practicing attorney before you ended up joining the state ledge?
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Andy Biggs
Yeah. So Andrew knows all my story almost. But I was practicing law and I chose to retire pretty early. But I started doing some international work on behalf of pro life, pro family NGOs at multilaterals. And I was still active and there was a redistricting. I mean, that's what happened. The decennial census came out and now we didn't have a state representative here and I was asked to run and we prayed about it and felt like I should and I ran in 2002 and won and took my first office in the state legislature in 2003.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Wow. So, you know, I have a theory. This is going to sound like a negative towards you, Andy, but it's actually a positive. So I have a theory that a lot of congressmen do not make great governors. And the reason is because it's different being a CEO of a state than it is being part of a deliberative body. But one of the highlights of Your career that I think is worth highlighting is the fact that you were actually involved deeply and intimately at the state level. So tell us about your history of the state. Ledge. So if you want a governor, you want a governor that knows how to pull the levers of power, knows how to work within the state system, knows how to get bills passed, understands the utilities, understands the minutiae of local governance. You ended up becoming the president of the Senate here in the state of Arizona before going to D.C. tell us about your time there, what you learned, what you're going to glean from that experience.
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Andy Biggs
Yeah, I think that is really going to be helpful. Because of my position as Senate president, I also was essentially writing the state budget. So I know the lines, I know what we're going to spend, and. And I know kind of where this is going. But I worked with two different Republican governors, and so we had that interaction. But without getting into the details too much, what I can just tell you is there's a reason so many current and former legislators endorse me. It's because I'm pretty open and communicate, let people come into my office. And Katie Hobbs was, for Pete's sakes, current governor, was the minority leader when I was there for a while, and she'd come into my office every week and we would talk about this stuff. But the bottom line is, if you know the process and you know the policy and you were willing to collaborate, you can get so much done as the governor, and that's. That's really what we're going to do.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Yeah. Amen to that. So let's talk about Arizona. Arizona is a remarkable state. It is. You know, Charlie, for those of you who know the story, was actually born in Illinois, and he obviously married Erica, who's a Arizonan. And every time we would fly back into Arizona, though this was the state that he chose to make his home. He would just. I have so many memories of this. He would just say, oh, look at that, how beautiful it is. And I was like, charlie, it's very dry. It's kind of brown. And he's like, oh, it's great. You see, like, 95% of the days in sun. It's wonderful. You know, he just loved this state and the spirit of the people. What is the spirit of Arizona that, you know, that, you know, this is a purple state. Right. We've got Gallego, we've got Mark Kelly, we've got Hobbs, the governor. What is this real spirit of Arizona?
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Andy Biggs
Well, so that the purpleness is really an aberration in my mind, because what this, this state really was a, you know, historically it was for rugged individuals who would come out and make their way. They weren't looking for government to kind of take care of them. But I mean, the spirit of the state still remains strong that way. I mean, you look at it, we're still a center right state. And when you start looking at it like our water situation, no other state in the country did what Arizona did. We took a desert state when you had 45, 50,000 people living in this current metro area. That's five and a half million people. And they built a series of dams to bring water to it. I mean, that we're still using today. That's what we are.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Yeah, yeah. So. But things are not going as well currently. You had a bunch of tweets, a series of tweets where you mentioned that Arizona has fallen into the bottom five as far as wage growth, the bottom five of new job growth. We've got a housing issue. What are the top three, four, whatever issues that you see plaguing the state of Arizona?
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Andy Biggs
Well, first of all, we've lost the American dream here in this state, perhaps across the country in many ways. So the first issue for me is to restore that. And that means that you have to facilitate and create an atmosphere where young people or new families can buy a single family home and be able to afford to buy that home. Now why is that? Because when people buy this home for the first time, they form families. Right. And when you form families, that's when you keep your culture, your society, your history. Without that, we're going to have a problem. So for us to facilitate that, that means we have to fix a water situation. That's tough. We have to fix our power grid situation, which is tough, by the way. These are not unique to Arizona. These are system wide. But we need to fix those things. At the same time, we still have across our southern border, the most porous human trafficking sector in the country. So you want to make sure that people can afford to buy homes in a safe neighborhood, but you also want them to be safe so where they can go take the, feel comfortable taking their family out. And you're not going to be worried about fentanyl coming into your high schools. So for us, for me, you start working on the American dream with the housing, but you also start working on the American dream to make sure that you're shutting down areas of the border, that they're still kind of porous because of unique circumstances in Arizona. Arizona's Terrain, some governmental entities that we have here. Once you start doing those two things, then you start remembering. We want every parent to be able to be influential in the educational experience of their child. No more boys and girls sports or girls locker rooms. No more grooming behind parents backs. We're going to work on that. But we're going to make sure that Arizona's educational choice, which is the best in the country, is available for every student. So we're not just teaching them to read and write and do math at grade level. We want them to be able to also understand our history, come out as great citizens and be able to get good jobs.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Yeah, we call it the three M's. Marriage, mortgage and mating. They're called conservatizing life events.
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Andy Biggs
Yes.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
And I remember actually coming up with the three M's with Charlie. I saw it in a Brookings Institute study where they realized, oh shoot, if young people get married and they get a mortgage and they start having kids, they're going to turn into Republicans and we got to stop this. But ironically, that is the American dream. So you talk about housing. How do you make housing more affordable?
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Andy Biggs
So we have a problem in the west, as many people know, for instance, of property ownership In Arizona, only 18% of the fifth largest state in the country is in private hands. The rest of it is controlled by government entities, state or federal. And that means that for instance, in the Phoenix metro area you have whole swaths of land which would be normally suitable to build single family homes on what, what you're getting instead is a dormant asset because it's sitting there being owned by the federal or state government. So you have to, you have to open that up. And, and 25% of, of development in Arizona is usually the land cost. But the other thing is you reduce cost. About 30% of it is, is permitting you.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Seriously?
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Andy Biggs
Yeah, 30%? Yeah, in Arizona. So you have to make sure you take care of the regulatory environment that's in place. And when you take care of those two things right there, all of a sudden the cost of say a first time home becomes rational and affordable. And that's really what you want to do.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
What about business investment, job growth, wage growth? How do you bring that back to the state?
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Andy Biggs
Well, what we've done is we're competing now with states that have reduced their income tax either to zero or even below ours. Ours is two and a half percent flat. So you have to give a better tax structure. You have to reduce the regulatory environment. So it's not just housing that's Taking four years to get from Platte to Dirt. It's taking that long on all kinds of businesses and you have to facilitate that. And where we do facilitate it, we see jobs come in. So we recently did one for a group called hadrian out of LA county and they came in and they're hiring 350 Arizonans to work in that high tech manufacturing plant.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Andy Biggs
Yeah, it's, it is a cooperative, it's a Public private. Yeah, public private. It's kind of a quasi government.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
You say quasi.
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Andy Biggs
I did.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
I'm a quasi guy. Is it qua quasi for Quasimodo? Yeah. And I'm just saying hands raised for. For quasi. Do you say it Quasi. Ah, see, I got. We got one, two.
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Andy Biggs
Am I alone in this?
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Yeah. Hands up for quasi.
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Andy Biggs
So, Ah, so. So everybody who says quasi. How many of you are from north of Arizona or from outside of Arizona?
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
No, I think it's. Wait.
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Andy Biggs
Yeah, everybody. See, there you go.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
He found it like a loophole here. That's.
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Andy Biggs
Yeah, this is. This is a local issue. Apparently, this kind of like, this is how we know if you're a spy from another state, you're going to come in and say, we're all from California. It's a quasi thing.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
So. So I do want to talk about this, actually. This. I was thinking about bringing it up before, but they. Hold on. You're getting me distracted. Srp. All right, hold on. This is. So we're getting involved in this election or this. You know, I think it's April 5th. It's turning point Action has gotten involved in it, and all this national media attention is coming into it because there's the California green agenda, the green New deal, green New scam agenda is trying to infiltrate into the state of Arizona. Explain why it's. Again, this is wonky, but it's important. It's the price of energy, the price of water, how we're approaching these things. How important is that SRP election to what you plan to do as governor?
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Andy Biggs
It's absolutely. It's like, at the top. So we got to take care of this. And here's why. Because SRP is a power and water company. So when I talked about the. The lakes that were built and basically the rivers that were tamed, that was SRP doing that over 100 years ago. Over 100 years ago. And we still. They still move a lot of water. They still move a lot of power. And what we're seeing is at the acc, these groups that are coming in, they want to rely on the green New Deal stuff, and they want to increase the amount of solar and wind, which is less reliable, more expensive, ugly. Ugly. And I mean, the wind turbines, actually, they're in northern northeast Arizona. There are. There are private groups that are trying to come in and put up to 8,000 wind turbines up in the.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
8,000.
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Andy Biggs
8,000. And what that does is those are pollutants when they. When they run their course, because they don't live forever when they run the course, they actually pollute the land underneath them. So if you want to get power stability and make sure that you move to a cheaper form of power, you have to acknowledge that clean coal. Arizona's got some clean coal. We actually have that resource. We also have some of those facilities China's doing, I heard this morning, 100 per week. That seems astounding of coal plants. So you have the coal, then you have natural gas. Refining that, that's clean, it's cheap, it's something that we can get and move very quickly, and it's efficient. And the third thing is the movement to nuclear. A lot of people don't realize this, but the. Until Georgia recently opened their nuclear plant, the Palo Verde nuclear plant west of town here was the largest nuclear facility in the United States. And now we're moving to SM Mars, which this is. This is the wonkiness you didn't want me to get to.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
I'm sorry. We'll get through this very soon, I promise. This is important.
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Andy Biggs
But. But to move it to the nuclear small modular reactors. President Trump is trying to get nine of those placed in different facilities, military installations, so that they're up and running by the end of 2027. I don't know if that's doable, but what happens? We're trying to get one at, at. Luke, some of us in the delegation, if we can get something there and you start making that scalable, all of a sudden, it changes the entire dynamics for where we're going. Because where are we going? You're seeing a tremendous increase in the demand for power and water. And by the way, we went from about 1970s having roughly maybe a million and a half to 2 million people, maybe a little bit more than that from the early 70s to today, where we are seven and a half million people in this state. And guess what? We use the same amount of water because of the way we manage our water resources. And you don't want to turn that over to the Green New Deal folks because they don't like people. They just don't like people. And I'm not kidding when I say that. And we like people and we like growth and we like the economic opportunities that freedom allows. They want to crush freedom with their authoritarian, basically policies that they believe will drive people out of Arizona and who knows where.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Yeah, I think that's right. And what, you know, when we talk about the spirit of the state, you've had a lot of people coming from California, you've had a lot of people coming from other Places, Illinois. So what is your message to them as you're trying to win their votes in the state, the newcomers to the state, what's your vision that you want to pitch to them?
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Andy Biggs
Well, I think regardless of where you're coming from and what your political vision is, you want to be able to afford to live. You want to be able to afford to have good housing, you want to be able to buy food, and you want to be able to get around. And there's no place better than that than Arizona. We provide all that. But what'll happen is when you get me as the governor with a great legislature, it will become easier for you in all of those things. But it isn't just that they want the same things we want. They may not know why they want them. They may not logically see the consistency with our policies and getting what they want, but the reality is they. They want to make sure they're free, too. Most of them. The people that are going to vote in this election, they want to be free, too.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
All right, I hope you guys enjoyed my exclusive sit down with the next governor of Arizona, Andy Biggs. Support his campaign. Get out and vote for him. Donate, knock doors for him. Get involved with turning point action. We can get you plugged in with no problem. That's it for hour one. We're going to come back in hour two. Blake and I are going to do some more reflection on this solemn, solemn day of good Friday. And then Blake's interview with Nick Shirley. He does a great job in it, by the way. All right, we'll see you in hour two. When the world takes its shots, some break, others rise. From Rachel Holt comes ammunition. In collaboration with bass Records. Stand against the noise, the hate, the voices trying to tear you down Every word thrown your way Fuel to fight back stronger Scan the QR code and download now on itunes.
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Terrence Bates
Turn pressure into power.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Rachel Holt
So bring it. Knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down Load your words take your a take me out Keep on shooting and listen if it makes you feel strong and I'll keep stocking up on ammunition.
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Terrence Bates
Rachel Holt joining me now to talk more about it. Congratulations. I love the song. Talk about the motivation.
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Rachel Holt
Well, this song is basically about just not standing down and standing up for what you believe in. And the song has a great beat, which is great for the message that we're trying to get across here. So it's kind of like a rock country song here, but basically, you just can't back down to everybody that's trying to tear you down.
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Terrence Bates
And it seems to me, as I was listening to the lyrics, that it has so many different applications. Obviously, there's the application of no matter what comes at you, that you got to find a way to find some ammunition to keep yourself going, to keep your. To be locked and loaded, if you will.
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Rachel Holt
Yeah, basically, you know, like, people can do what they want to you, but, you know, that just fuels the fire for you to push back even harder and just take a stand and not back down to them. And it can be applied in many different situations.
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Terrence Bates
You know, how have you applied it? Even personally, I think some of the best music comes from our personal experiences. It comes from somewhere deep in our soul. Can you share how you've made applied it or how you've maybe found motivation even within your. Your personal experiences?
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Rachel Holt
Yeah. So basically, when I signed with my record label, the first song we put out was actually a pro life song together. And I, of course, I got hate for that, but I got support for that also. But, you know, that just gave me inspiration to not back down and to just keep putting out music that, you know, means something to people.
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Terrence Bates
While this song is going to obviously climb the charts, I would imagine you're back in the studio, or at least you're thinking your next project. What else is on your mind? And how do you like kind of this new genre, this new platform, if you will, that allows you to tell stories and to express your art in ways that aren't necessarily the most popular?
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Rachel Holt
I love it. Just like Jason Aldean is doing kind of, you know, people try to twist his song and tear him down for it, but he also got a bunch of support for it. And we're working on about five new songs as well to come out before summertime here soon.
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Terrence Bates
Can you give us an idea of what the themes of some of those songs are? I've got to ask.
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Rachel Holt
Well, I got a beach song coming for you, so that'll be a good one. But I've had this song in the works for about two years now. Year, year or two. And, you know, I'm excited to finally put it out. Everybody's asking me when it was coming out, and we finally got around to it.
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Terrence Bates
Well, I'm loving it. Rachel, always good to see you. I wish you continued success. Keep doing what you're doing, sister.
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Rachel Holt
Thank you so much.
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Terrence Bates
Again, the song is called Ammunition. You can download it right now. Just scan that QR code at the bottom of your screen and you can take the song with you wherever you take your devices. In other headlines this afternoon, President Trump saying he'll sign an emergency order to pay all employees at the Department of Homeland Security. The move could happen as soon as today. Tens of thousands of DHS employees have been working without a paycheck since mid February as Congress has failed to reach a funding deal. Taking to Truth Social on Thursday, the president announcing the upcoming payments. He's taking charge of the situation after the Senate cleared the way for the House to pass a DHS funding bill through September 30th. The measure would end a nearly seven week partial government shutdown. And while the House met on Thursday, the chamber failed to vote on the funding bill. In the meantime, brand new DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen is praising President Trump for working to ensure that, quote, hard working men and women across DHS are paid. We'll of course, continue to follow this developing story for you and keep you updated. In the meantime, we're going to take a quick break and then get you back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
All right. Welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk show here on Good Friday. And Blake, you inspired me because you said the Catholics read from John the crucifixion story from John. So I figured we should do that. So we're going to start this hour reading from scripture and we're going to play a couple clips from Charlie and then explaining what it is finished really means as well. So there's a clip on that I want to get to and then your Nick Shirley interview. So lots to get to here. So this is from John, chapter 19, verse 17. And it says, and he bearing his cross went out to a place called the place of the skull, which is called in Hebrew Golgotha, where they crucified him and two others with him, one on either side and Jesus in the center. Now Pilate wrote a title and put it on the cross. And the writing was, Jesus of Nazareth, the king of the Jews. Then many of the Jews read this title. For the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city. And it was written in Hebrew, Greek and Latin. Therefore, the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, do not write the king of the Jews. But he said, I am the king of the Jews. Pilate answered, what I have written, I have written. Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments and made four parts to each soldier apart, and also the tunic. Now the tunic was without seam, woven from the top in one piece. They said therefore among themselves, let us not tear it, but cast lots for it, of whose it shall be that the Scripture might be fulfilled, which says, they divided my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots. Therefore the soldiers did these things. And then Jesus. It's an ode to Mary which I wanted to keep in here. Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother and his mother's sister Mary, the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus therefore saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing by, he said to his mother, woman, behold your son. Then he said to the disciple, behold your mother. And from that hour that disciple took her into his, into his own home. After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, I thirst now. A vessel full of sour wine was sitting there and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop and put it to his mouth. So when Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, it is finished. And bowing his head, he gave up his spirit. Powerful moment to reflect on on Good Friday. And we think it's important to read directly from Scripture because God said it best. I do want to reflect, though a little bit on what it is finished. And I saw this great clip that I wanted to share with all of you guys on the different meanings of what this means. This is From Josh Howerton, sought 1.
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Josh Howerton
When Jesus was on the cross, he cried out, it is finished. That's how it gets translated in English. But that was just a translation of the Greek word, word tetelestai. There was a word that was used in a business context on ancient receipts in the New Testament Bible times to indicate that a literal debt had been paid in full. It was also used in a judicial context in a court when a sentence was fully served, completely and fully, once and for all served. The word tetelestai was also used in a military context, meaning that a battle had been won. It was a word of like triumph and victory. When, when Jesus hangs on the cross and he cries out, tetelestai, it is finished. He was declaring, the debt of your sin is fully paid. The judgment for your sin has been fully served. And the spiritual war against death, sin and Satan has been completely won. In Christ. The work of salvation, victory, reconciliation and a new life is fully yours.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
It is finished. Amen.
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Blake
Also, as Jesus said that he had come to fulfill the law kind of means that as well it is fulfilled.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Yeah, absolutely. I love that the Catholics read from John.
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Blake
There's many interesting parts about it. One of the most interesting to me is when you do readings in church. All of the gospel readings are. They're done by the priest, exclusively by the priest. And the one exception is during the Passion readings, where they actually will have the audience take part of it, and you're taking the part of the mob of the crowd which goes in the story. So when they say one that's really memorable. I can't remember if this is in. Let me see. Do they have it in John, or is it only in. Okay, the memorable one, when they say, take him away, they cried out. He says, behold your king. And then they cry out, and this is. The audience in the service will say this. Take him away. Take him away. Crucify him. Pilate said to them, shall I crucify your king? And the chief priests answered, and then this is. Everyone says, we have no king but Caesar. And the audience that says that, it very much drives home our collective sin, our collective guilt.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
It's our sin that held him there on that cross.
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Blake
He was crushed for our iniquity. He was punished for our iniquities, crushed for our sins.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
It personalizes it in a really powerful way. Yeah, I love that, and I love so much of the ancient liturgy and the rituals. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. He loved talking about these things. Let's go ahead and play more of Charlie in his own words, reflecting on his faith sought for.
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Charlie Kirk
The modern gospel is, God has this beautiful, amazing, wonderful life for you, and if you give your life to Christ, your life will infinitely improve. That is somewhat true, but it's very misleading because you're basically trying to sell people in Christianity of a life without difficulty, where the better way to teach the gospel is, here's the Ten Commandments. How many of these are you violating? Oh, you deserve to go to hell, and you probably will unless you give your life to Christ. That is the proper way to evangelize. And so I realized the stakes in fifth grade. I was like, oh, my goodness, I'm a sinner, I'm selfish, I'm broken. And only thanks to Jesus, perfect sacrifice, coming and living a perfect life, that I get something I do not earn, but has been given to me, this free gift of eternal life.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
So good. So good. Good job, team. We've got all these tweets of Charlie's, too. He says, this is from April 2018, 2025. He says, Today is Good Friday. Thank you, Jesus, for your amazing and unthinkable sacrifice. You died so that we would have life and life in abundance. And then he quotes scripture from Mark 15. It was nine in the morning when they crucified him. The written notice of the charged against him read, the King of the Jews. With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last. The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. And when the centurion who stood there in front of Jesus saw how he died, he said, surely this man was the son of God. We've got more if we want to read. You want to read the next one, Blake?
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Blake
This one's very long, so I don't think we can complete it, but I would encourage you guys to search it on x. It's from April 20th of last year. So Charlie's last Easter with us. And, you know, he said, today we celebrate the resurrection of Christ. A real event of history. He is risen. And he lists 10 historical facts to back the resurrection of Christ. The first of them is just that he was crucified under Pontius Pilate. I love to mention to people, this is a name that is in the creed that most Christians will recite. He was crucified under Pontius Pilate. This is a statement of historical fact that this was a real person who was involved in it. He was buried in a known tomb. The tomb was discovered empty by women. Christianity's fiercest enemies became some of its loudest witnesses. And he goes on with 10 other things. And Charlie was very important. He was such a witness to the gospel and he was such a powerful promulgator of it in its most direct sense. I just loved that where he said that, where it's, you know, you don't give this touchy feely thing. You say you are a sinner and you require salvation for your sins, or it's going to be very bad.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Repent, for the kingdom of God is near. And amen. Good Friday. We are going to do a quick read here and then Blake's interview with Nick Shirley coming right up. Hillsdale. Before Charlie ever stepped behind a microphone, he wanted to learn. And he learned so much through Hillsdale. And one of the courses he took was the Genesis story, Very relevant today. Taught by Hillsdale Professor Dr. Justin Jackson, this free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path towards reconciliation, which is what we celebrate today. It's a real college course. It's really challenging. It's really deep. It's thoughtful. Here's the key. It's accessible to anybody who's willing to learn. So be like Charlie. Be ready and willing to learn. Learn something new every day. You can do that through hillsdale go to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll today. You can take the Genesis course, or you can take any of the other 40 plus courses that they have. They're all for free. Go to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll today. We'll be right back. All right, let's talk about why Refi Investments. You've heard us talking about why Refi for a while now, but we have this whole other side. And accredited investors with why Refi investments can earn up to 10.25%, and that interest rate is fixed. You can invest from one to five years. So you have a lot of flexibility. You could spread your investment over those terms to best suit your needs. When you invest in Y Refi, your interest is calculated daily so you see exactly how much money you're making. And you're paid monthly. And you have the freedom to take your monthly interest as income or reinvest it, whatever you choose. So maximum flexibility with Invest Y Refi. And when you invest with Y Refi, you also know that you're pouring into an amazing company with amazing patriots that love this country, that support causes like Turning Point, like this show. So you can do it knowing you're. You're putting your money with good people and in a good place. For more information, call 877-80-Invest. That's 87780, invest. Or log on to Invest Y Refi. That's invest Y-R-E-F-Y.com for complete details. Make sure to review the private placement memorandum. Scan this QR code right here on your screen to view the disclosures at your leisure. That's investyrefi.com. all right, Blake.
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Blake
All right, it's my turn. We just had an event here in Phoenix, the same one where Andrew was interviewing Andy Biggs. We also welcomed Nick Shirley, Somali fraud exploder extraordinaire.
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Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Leering center.
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Blake
The leering center man. We welcomed him out to Arizona to speak in front of some of our supporters, and we had an interview which dived into his work. A lot of people really enjoyed it. It was a fun conversation. We hope all of you enjoy it as well. Hello, everybody. Alrighty. Well, welcome, Nick. Thank you for coming out.
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Nick Shirley
Yeah, I'm super happy to be here.
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Blake
All right. I was saying just before we got in that we already owe him a lot. He did force us to abandon an initiative we were planning to launch. We can't launch Leering Point USA anymore. We had to look for a new name for that one. But I think it's all worth it.
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Nick Shirley
Yeah. It would be a real shame if the kids couldn't lear anymore.
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Blake
But, yeah, well, welcome out here. And I think just to start off, I was looking at some of your more recent tweets, and obviously, you're known for your documentary stuff, your. Your investigative work, but you had a normal post just the other day, and I want to read it because I think it really speaks to the influence that I know Charlie has had on you and a lot of other people. So let me bring it up here, and what you said was, the more time I spend on X and around politics, I realize how easy it is for people to complain. Very few people actually do the thing. I would much rather actively be trying to do something than just complaining without bringing a solution. And I know that is very much something that Charlie would say all the time. He was all about being the change that you seek in the world. So I know you're also iconic for being one of the final guests on our show before the tragedy that happened in Utah. So can you just tell us a bit about the impact Charlie had on your life and outlook?
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Nick Shirley
Yeah, I had a lot of respect for Charlie because of what he's done. And every time I'd go to, like, Amfest or even coming here today to see what he built, what he has built and the people that he's been able to attract around him speaks to the person he was. And the reason I made that post is because I. I'm going out doing so much, and people like Charlie did so much, and it's so easy for us to go out and do so much and to actually go to the place, talk about it, put our money where our mouth is. And then there's so many people who just want to complain and attack the people that are actually doing the doing. And so, yeah, I kind of get. Sometimes I get kind of fed up when I get on the Internet, and I see people always just like complaining and complaining without ever bringing any solution. And so right before I tweeted that, I had seen that Gavin Newsom was blaming Trump for his disaster of a state of California. And I said, how are you supposed to blame Trump for this when you're the one who's pushed all the billionaires out of your state? You let $24 billion go unaccounted for, and you're complaining about taxes, but he has the highest tax on gas in the United States. And so. But all that's Trump's fault. And so I saying, well, you're the governor, like, take ownership. And I think Charlie's a perfect example of somebody who takes ownership and he sees a problem, he would actually go and do something about it. I mean, he dedicated his whole entire life to helping make America great and making America better place to live. And so me and myself, I want to do the same thing. Whether it's going and doing these videos and showing people and highlighting what's actually happening and bringing a solution to some of these problems. People say, well, Nick, you're complaining by making that tweet. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm telling you guys what's happening. And then I have actually post a video every single week to show you what's going on. That's why you guys are actually interacting with me, because I'm creating these conversations.
- [67:38]
Blake
Exactly. Exactly. And I think. I think it's very common to run into people who say, I'd love to help out once I have the right job or once I've finished the right program, once I've moved to the right town. But I think you've shown exactly what is possible, which is you can basically take a smartphone and go to the right spot and ask the right questions and get 150 million views on X. So I think that is the next natural question. I know there's a lot of people, a lot like you, who are in their late teens, early 20s. They love to ask that general question, how can I do what you do? And so let's imagine. Let's imagine there's someone out here in Phoenix or in a town like Los Angeles, and they've seen. Seems there's a lot of fraud out there. It seems like there's a lot of waste. It seems like there's a lot of corruption. They have a smartphone. What should they do next to take action?
- [68:31]
Nick Shirley
Yeah, I think the most important thing is going to the location, going to the source. A lot of people want to go to the source of where the.
- [68:38]
Blake
No one wants to go outside.
- [68:39]
Nick Shirley
Nobody wants to go outside. So if you're angry about your governor, you're angry about the leering center in your neighborhood, maybe go to the place and do your research and say, okay, let's go see if I can talk to the person and have those conversations to actually see what's happening.
- [68:58]
Blake
I will admit I was on. When I was driving up here, I did pass by a place that was prominently labeled as a Phoenix Autism center, and it did enter my mind. Oh, is that one of those?
- [69:08]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
Or.
- [69:09]
Blake
And I don't want. I don't know. I don't know. About that one. It might be legitimate.
- [69:11]
Nick Shirley
But people, if they start going around your towns and you notice there's like these learning centers or these autism centers, you're going to realize there's no cars in the parking lot and every time you drive by them there's actually no cars there. So this is like a whole fraud system that's in every state in the United States. But going back to your question about what someone could actually do if they want to do something, well, I think you have to go do the doing, obviously, but you have to go to the source and you have to be not afraid to speak on things for what they are. I think nowadays a lot of things that actually aren't controversial are becoming controversial. Like the topic of fraud. I think it should not be controversial that fraud is bad no matter who's committing it. The fact that men are in girls sports, they were born with a whole different thing, you know what I mean? So how's that even controversial? Or the fact that people get mad that we deport illegal migrants? The words illegal. And so a lot of controversial things are becoming, I think a lot of things that aren't controversial are becoming controversial. So you have to have the courage to speak on the non controversial issues that have now became controversial and same for what they are.
- [70:20]
Blake
So true.
- [70:20]
Nick Shirley
So true.
- [70:49]
Terrence Bates
Terrence Bates here with your real America's Voice news break. We appreciate you being here with us. Happening today, the White House set to release President Trump's 2027 budget. The spending plan is projected to boost defense spending to $1.5 trillion, which would mark the largest increase for the military in decades. The commander in chief's appetite for sending more money to the Pentagon comes amid plans to modernize the military for 21st century threats. While the president's budget highlights his priorities, Congress will ultimately handle federal spending issues and will decide how to prioritize the president's ask. The budget considerations come as the nation is running a $2 trillion annual deficit and the national debt stands at over $39 trillion. Meantime, President Trump says he'll sign an emergency order to pay all employees at the Department of Homeland Security. The move could happen as soon as today. Tens of thousands of DHS employees have been working without pay since mid February as Congress has failed to reach a funding deal taken to truth Social. On Thursday, the president announced the upcoming payments. He's taking charge of the sit after the Senate cleared the way for the House to pass a DHS funding bill through September 30th. The measure would also end a nearly seven week partial government shutdown while the House said While the House met on Thursday, the chamber failed to vote on the funding bill. Meantime, brand new DHS Secretary Markway Mullen is praising President Trump for working to ensure that, quote, hardworking men and women across DHS will are paid and the country has a new interim U.S. attorney General. This morning after President Trump fired Pam Bondi. He made it official in a true social post Thursday, writing, we love Pam and she will be transitioning to a much needed and important new job in the private sector. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche will serve as acting Attorney General until Bondi's full time successor is selected. There's talk that EPA Commissioner Lee Zeldin may be on the president's shortlist for Attorney General Bondi' departure follows months of scrutiny over the Justice Department's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files. That's a quick check of your headlines.
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Blake
We have more from our interview with Nick Shirley. We talk a bit about upcoming videos he's doing. By now a lot of those are out, so you should check his X account and have a look at those. They're quite, they're quite. The performance is your step one. When you're going to a new destination, like when you're landing in Minnesota and you want to go to the daycare centers or whatever follow up business you're looking at, is it as simple as look them up on Google Maps and start just going to each one or
- [75:30]
Nick Shirley
it's a little bit more complicated than that. You got to do your research. So I had known about that fraud in Minnesota since last June, for instance, and I had been gathering information on it. And then the man in the video, David, how did that unfold?
- [75:41]
Blake
Like you just went there and people were telling you about it?
- [75:43]
Nick Shirley
Yeah, I went and did a video in last June about the rise of Islam and the Somali population inside Minnesota because people were telling me about it. And then all the Minnesotans were like, finally, someone's here to make a video about the fraud. I said, what fraud and people? One lady called me for two hours. I got stuck in a gas station parking lot for two hours talking to this lady and she would not hang up. And I'm like, okay, but do you know about this one? I'm like, okay, thank you very much. And then she kept going. And then the next day she planned a bunch of people for me to interview and they all backed out because they were too scared to speak out against the fraud. And so I was like, okay, well there's something here. I had known about it. And then the man, David, who had been gathering information for years because they didn't want to release the money numbers to the public. And a lot of these places won't. Like for instance, if you try to get the auditing for California, let's just say I think the only one I could find was from 2023. They don't even want to give you from 2024 because then people could go and do these investigations. And actually right now they're like taking down parts of their websites to help you filter and search throughout. Stuff in Minnesota did that same exact thing when I did the video on the fraud. Like they literally crashed down the website, like at the heat of it to try and hide the fraud.
- [76:53]
Blake
Have you faced any other backlash from the left? Have they threatened you with lawsuits? Have they, have they tried to basically tell you you're not allowed to do this?
- [77:03]
Nick Shirley
No, because what I'm doing is true. Like, I'm going after, like, what are they going to sue me for calling out the layering center? I mean, the layering center literally packed up their bags and left.
- [77:13]
Blake
I have to say, I really admire as, as a guy who was a journalist myself, anyone who has like an explicit scalp, so to speak, someone they took down. And I think you have, to your credit, you took down, I think the politician I think I might personally detest more than anyone else. As a guy who's from the Midwest, I really don't like Tim Walls. He's the exact type of person that I just really don't like as a Democrat. How does it feel to have that to your credit?
- [77:43]
Nick Shirley
I think it's a nice trophy to have.
- [77:48]
Blake
Do you get emails? Do people from Minnesota contact you and say, like, thank you, you've liberated us until the next Democrat takes office?
- [77:55]
Nick Shirley
Yes, people were very, very happy that Tim Waltz decided to step down. And that also just goes and proves that what I was doing was true and correct. Because why would he step down if there actually wasn't anything to be hiding from? And so that was one of my favorite things. When he started calling me like a. He called me like a far right conspiracy theorist. And then he called me, he called me a delusional far right conspiracy theorist. And then he said I was like, what he say? He said, he said a lot of things, but I think he said like racist. Like, yeah, he call us like all racist or whatnot for going after the fraud. And that's the reason why people were not able to speak out or too afraid to speak out because your governor would then call you racist or a delusional conspiracy theorist for speaking out against the thing that made him drop out of reelection.
- [78:49]
Blake
Sort of a how it started, how it's going sort of thing for him.
- [78:51]
Nick Shirley
And yeah, it's a bad hill to die on.
- [78:57]
Blake
I imagine you get this question a lot. But I, you know, I figure I'll get ahead of the audience here. What's next? You've got your sweatshirt that says where did my tax dollars go? Where are where you next? Want to see where it's going?
- [79:10]
Nick Shirley
Yeah. So after the Minnesota video, I got a lot of death threats because I went after. I literally took down like a billion dollar enterprise that was taking place. And so people get killed over millions of dollars. Billions of dollars is a little bit more risky to even expose. So after I did that, I did a video on California fraud. The voting Fraud and just how easy it is for people to vote. So I said, okay, maybe I'll get a little less death threats. But this week I'm coming back out, exposing millions and maybe billions of dollars in California. So now I'm ready for it even more.
- [79:45]
Blake
Can you tell us what the industry is this time or any. Any preview you can give us, or is that. Is that a secret?
- [79:49]
Nick Shirley
Well, if you look at California, their budgets that keep going up for their thing called Medi Cal, every year it goes up by the billions. There's not millions more people coming in. So it has something to do with that.
- [80:01]
Blake
Just goes up every year.
- [80:02]
Nick Shirley
Yeah. Like, it literally goes up exponentially every single year. Like, literally billions of dollars.
- [80:06]
Blake
Yeah. You know, if I could have a recommendation. I was reading about this myself. So New York and Florida have pretty similar populations. In fact, Florida overtook New York thanks to Covid. And Florida is pretty famous for having a lot of older people there. They like to retire there. New York spends three times as much on Medicaid.
- [80:25]
Nick Shirley
Just New York, like New York City alone, which is crazy. And I think, like, you're seeing in these Democrat cities that charge the most in taxes, but then their quality of living is actually the worst, and they have the most amount. Like, they're always in debt. Like, a lot of most states are in debt, but these states are always, like, talking about, oh, we need this much more, we need to tax this much more. And I think if they were actually taxed less, it would incentivize the businesses to actually run profitable businesses versus relying on the government, which would actually help eliminate a lot of their waste in their debt because they're always trying to tax more, and then yet they just raise their budgets by the billions. And if they were to have more of a competitive way of doing business, they wouldn't have to be so reliant upon the government. And I'm not like some genius or anything, but I think that just makes sense. If you're going to open a business before you do it, figure out how to make it profitable.
- [81:22]
Blake
Exactly. Exactly. Novel idea. Or I guess you can just get taxpayers to pay for it every single time.
- [81:29]
Nick Shirley
Exactly. And that's the problem in all these states. They just want to rely upon the government. Let's raise taxes. Let's raise taxes. But then they're actually never making money. Like, the only money they're making is from us, but not from the person who's buying their product or the service they're providing. A lot of these places don't actually provide the service.
- [81:48]
Blake
How did. How did you originally get started on this? What was the. What was the first video you made that made you think, like, I'm going to be a guy who makes political videos for.
- [81:57]
Nick Shirley
Well, the first one. It's funny, because Congressman Biggs was here. I had been to Amfest in 2023. I saw some things saying, oh, patriots are going to be uniting here at Phoenix, Arizona. I was like, oh, this will be a good time to go interview some, like, redneck hillbillies. Like, maybe this will be interesting to go talk to some people. And then I got there, I was like, oh. Like, oh, all these people are so cool. Like, they're just here because they want the best for America.
- [82:22]
Blake
And were you more towards the center or even on the left then, or.
- [82:26]
Nick Shirley
No, I had. I liked. I was a Trump. I've always liked Trump. Like, I remember watching the Apprentice with my grandpa. I was like. So I always liked. But I thought that. I thought, like, amfest, like, oh, this is, like, some place where the rednecks are coming and we're all gonna join in, like, have a big old MAGA party. And I was like, okay, this will be some funny interviews, I guess. And then I get there. I'm like, yeah, these people are all cool. And then I start hearing about the border. And my mom had been talking about the border for a long time because I was on a mission trip for our church. So for two years, I was pretty much not. Like, I wasn't really paying attention much to the news. And then I learned Spanish on that mission trip. And then I talked to everyone at amfest and, like, oh, the border's really bad. And so I went down to the border all by myself, and I had no idea what's going on. I set up a tripod, and I started interviewing people as they're coming across the border.
- [83:16]
Blake
Did you tell your mom about this before you did that?
- [83:18]
Nick Shirley
Yeah, I just told them, like, I'm just going to spend one more day in Phoenix. And so I go down there, and so this is answering your question about how I kind of got into this, seeing this corruption. And so I get down there, and all these migrants are, like, celebrating coming across the border. I'm, like, in my car. I'm like, oh, my gosh, these people are coming across.
- [83:35]
Blake
Like.
- [83:35]
Nick Shirley
Like, I'm like, wait, why aren't they running? And then I get over there, and they're, like, celebrating. They're, like, hopping in camera. I'm like, what the heck is going on? And since I could speak Spanish to him. They start telling me everything and. And then I'm like, oh, wow, this is going to be like a very interesting video. And then 10 minutes later, Congressman Biggs drives by with some other guy. They're like, you guys know, do you. Who are you out. What are you doing? Don't you know there's a cartel war on the other side? I'm like, what? And there was like an active cartel war going on the other side. But meanwhile, these migrants are like, celebrating. I'm like, giving them, like, food. I'm like, are you guys starving? Like, you guys have been walking for a while. Meanwhile, they had just been like trafficked over by the cartel and they're gonna go hop in the van to then get put into a. A detention. Not even. I don't even think you call it a detention facility here. And then that welcome facility, probably. Yeah, like a welcome facility. And then that same day, I got one of the Lee's phone numbers. Like, okay, well, I want to make sure you're all right. And then the next day, she's somehow in New York City. I'm like, whoa, what's going on here? And so that kind of just started this snowball of me, like tracking down the migrant crisis and seeing like government corruption.
- [84:46]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
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Blake
We've got just more from Nick Shirley, the Q and A. And it was. It was a lot of fun. And it's just. It's just fun to do these things. It's fun to have. It's fun to interview someone who's out there getting wins for the movement and for the country. And that could be. As we discussed in the Q and A, that could be any of you out there as well.
- [86:39]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
So absolutely.
- [86:40]
Blake
Look to Nick as a model. Be inspired.
- [86:42]
Nick Shirley
And I was one of the first people to ever expose, like, and have a migrant say, yeah, I've been living in this hotel in New York City for seven months for completely free. And nobody knew that. So I started just to see how, like, corrupt things were. And then once you see how corrupt one side of it is, and it just happens to be the most decrepit happening from the Democrats. And so then I just kept going to more and more places, and it just unraveled itself into what it is now.
- [87:07]
Blake
Did you know the president was going to shout out your. Your work during the State of the Union?
- [87:12]
Nick Shirley
That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. The smally fraudsters, the pirates. Yeah, they definitely had it coming for him. It's funny. I actually was, like, hoping I was going to see Ilhan Omar there. And so I got invited. I got invited to the. To the State of the Union, and they put Ilhan Omar's guest right behind me. And so I'm, like, looking. I'm, like, looking just down at the chamber, and then I hear some Somalian language, and I look back and it's Ilhan Omar. And, yeah, I really wanted to say hi to her, but I don't think she wanted to say hi back.
- [87:50]
Blake
All right.
- [87:51]
Nick Shirley
Nobody knows that. Nobody.
- [87:52]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
I haven't told that story before yet,
- [87:54]
Nick Shirley
but I was, like, super eager to say hi to her. But, yeah, I don't think she wanted to say hi.
- [87:59]
Blake
Would that be like, the white whale investigation, if you could finally get 100% to the bottom of the. Of the whole brother thing?
- [88:06]
Nick Shirley
Ooh. Yeah. I mean, I think it's already confirmed that she did marry me pretty much.
- [88:11]
Blake
I think it's pretty. It's pretty likely at this point, but very likely.
- [88:15]
Nick Shirley
I think if she got deported, that'd be, like, the biggest, like, W out of this whole entire thing. I really do think a lot of people want to see that happen as well. Because at the State of the Union, for instance, this was the most telling thing of the whole entire thing for me, because I'm sitting on the top of the chamber. All the congressmen. Congresswomen are down there. And there's only really one topic where everybody stood up about, and that was about condemning political violence when they mentioned Charlie Kirk. And there's only. Only her. And I think one other person didn't stand up. So even the rest of the Democrats stood up, but she wouldn't. And so that's very telling about the true person she is. If she's not even able to condemn political violence. In fact, she actually incites it after her fraud's exposed, she goes and tells everyone to go protest. And so she is very. Not much a benefit for this country. Like, she's not a benefit at all.
- [89:09]
Blake
All right, well, I saw what a celebrity you are with all of the people here. Certainly more so than me, probably. Probably because you have a much better hairline than me, I'm sure. But I want to give him a chance to ask a few questions to you.
- [89:20]
Nick Shirley
Of course.
- [89:20]
Blake
So we have here.
- [89:24]
Andy Biggs
Right over here.
- [89:24]
Blake
Please raise your hand if you have anything and we'll get the mic to you. Yeah, obviously.
- [89:29]
Nick Shirley
Thanks for being here.
- [89:29]
Andy Biggs
Nick, question.
- [89:30]
Nick Shirley
You've got a lot of supporters in this room, a lot of influential supporters.
- [89:33]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
How can we help you as you're
- [89:35]
Nick Shirley
going on this journey? Okay, so the most important thing is for people to watch the videos, share them. And I mean, security is not cheap. So if anyone wants to help with that, you're more than likely to donate. But the most important thing is if you see something in your own city, DM me or email me so I can go and then investigate it. Because there's so much going on inside this country. Like, a lot of you talked to today were from California. A few guys were from Minnesota. I'm sorry,
- [90:06]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
where do we donate?
- [90:08]
Nick Shirley
Just come talk to me. But there's actually a website called supportnickshirley.com
- [90:13]
Blake
as well, and I should shout out even your X account. You actually. You can subscribe to that X account.
- [90:18]
Nick Shirley
Oh, yeah, you can subscribe to me on X.
- [90:20]
Blake
Do you have other subscription stuff or.
- [90:22]
Nick Shirley
X is the best one because 100% goes to you, unlike other platforms.
- [90:25]
Blake
Great, great. Have you ever contemplated having, I don't know what the term maybe a farm system? Like, have you ever had a tip and, you know, you can't get to that town, but you know someone who's closer to It.
- [90:35]
Nick Shirley
Yes. So right now, I'm actually developing a website called antifraudclub.com and that's where you see the shirt right here. The back of it says Anti Fraud Taxpayer Club. And so I'm actually trying to make it available so people can go inside of their own cities. Because what I did in California is the HHS actually opened up their databases to the public. And so I'm actually trying to figure out a way to come up with, like, a decentralized version of DOGE and then help other people go out and find the fraud inside their places. And then they can then platform on my site, and it's all gonna be, like, completely free for people to use. And then I'm gonna teach people essentially how to go in and do it. And so that. That'll be cool. Like, the site's gonna be free, but I think to learn from me, charge like a $5 fee or something, but just so I can keep the site up.
- [91:27]
Blake
Awesome. Awesome. Who do we have next here?
- [91:31]
Rachel Holt
Hi, Nick. Hello.
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Audience Member from Georgia
So I'm a big fan, and I do speak hillbilly because I'm from Georgia. There are a couple of us here from Georgia, but. But we would love for you to come in and expose Fulton County.
- [91:44]
Nick Shirley
I've heard a lot about Fulton county,
- [91:48]
Blake
few Charlie episodes about that place.
- [91:49]
Audience Member from Georgia
So that is a gerrymandered big section of Atlanta.
- [91:53]
Nick Shirley
Okay.
- [91:54]
Audience Member from Georgia
And you probably heard the Buckhead, which is the wealthy section, has been trying to separate because they don't get support, but they want Buckhead's money for the city. But there are just layers and layers and layers of corruption and fraud with it, especially the voter fraud. They have been picking up homeless people, taking them in to vote. There have been people. There's a guy that's actually been on Instagram, Hillary. Do you know his name? Okay. But he has been going in and he has found that they have. That people that voted were registered at cemeteries, the addresses at vacant lots of. So this is going on in Atlanta, and we would love for you to come there.
- [92:38]
Nick Shirley
Yeah, I think that'd be a great video for me to go do. So I'll take you up on that one.
- [92:42]
Blake
Do you have like a. Maybe a tier list or a ranked list of places you most want to go to that you haven't yet?
- [92:47]
Nick Shirley
Yeah, but I gotta keep that one a secret. But that's on there. I think that'd be really good, because in California, for instance, and I did a video just to show, like, how easy it would be to vote in general without voter id. There was a lady. This also goes back to me talking about how non controversial issues have become controversial. There was a lady who registered her dog to vote. She was Republican. The dog voted twice, once successfully, the second time didn't go successfully. And then she then turned herself in. You had Democrats the next day defending the dog.
- [93:24]
Blake
We're pro dog people.
- [93:26]
Nick Shirley
We're pro dog people. But the fact was, whether it was a Democrat or Republican, just to show that fact that a dog's registered to vote, you had a person, literally you, not even a person. You had thousands of people defending the dog. And they didn't see the issue because it's not a right or left issue, but they couldn't. But because they made it a left right issue, it became one. But they couldn't say that it's not good that a dog was registered to vote.
- [93:51]
Blake
Would you rather have dogs voting or dead people or illegals? Give us a ranking.
- [93:57]
Nick Shirley
I mean, I think a dog would probably be smarter.
- [94:02]
Host (possibly Andrew Colvett or another main host)
All right, that was our Good Friday episode. I hope you guys spend some time in prayer in remembrance of the sacrifice that Jesus Christ has made for you. He died on the cross today and we want to take that seriously and hope hopefully you got the got inspired and you're going to spend time with family at church and in prayer and scripture. We'll see you guys next week. God bless you.