The Charlie Kirk Show — December 1, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)

Episode Theme: National Guard Shooting, Immigration, and American Identity

Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show centers on the aftermath of a deadly shooting of National Guardsmen near the White House, which was perpetrated by an Afghan immigrant. The panel discusses the political, cultural, and policy ramifications of the event, focusing heavily on immigration, national security, and the heated responses from political leaders, particularly Donald Trump's hardline new immigration moratorium proposal. Guests include Kentucky Senate candidate Nate Morris, pollster Rich Barris, and crime and immigration expert Heather McDonald. The conversation is unfiltered, confrontational, and steeped in the podcast's signature right-populist tone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The National Guard Shooting in Washington, D.C.

Timestamps: 09:16–10:36

• Incident Recap:

  • Two National Guardsmen, Sarah Beckstrom (deceased, 20) and Andrew Wolf, were attacked "in an ambush style shooting" just blocks from the White House by Rahm Manula Lockinwal, an Afghan national who entered the US under humanitarian parole in 2021.
  • The shooter had worked with the CIA in Afghanistan and was granted asylum in April 2025.

• Immediate Reactions:

  • President Trump quickly characterized the assault as "an act of evil and terror... a crime against humanity" (02:34).
  • Heated blame was thrown at the Biden administration for letting "thousands of other people that shouldn’t be here" into the country (04:16–04:20), sparking a debate about broader immigration/security policy.

2. Political and Policy Fallout: Trump's Immigration Moratorium

Timestamps: 11:03–14:52, 59:29–61:52

• Trump’s Truth Social Statement:

  • Trump released a fiery post decrying the state of American cities and institutions, linking it to mass immigration and welfare dependency. “Only reverse migration can fully cure this situation” (12:54–13:20).
  • Outlined a new policy to pause migration from "all third world countries" and remove anyone deemed not a "net asset" or "incapable of loving our country."

• Panel Reaction:

  • Charlie Kirk and team frame the proposal as a "grab bag of goody bags for the MAGA movement."
  • Andrew Colvett predicts the proposal will be "broadly very popular... with American people of all backgrounds" and not limited to "a white thing" (14:52).
  • The left’s reaction is predicted to consist of outrage, especially from "white progressives."

• Enforcement and Crime Rhetoric:

  • Blake Neff points out America historically separates families in the criminal justice system and applies this logic to immigration enforcement (15:04–15:32).
  • The group argues that the debate is shifting from compassion to law and that tough lines are what voters want.

Notable Quote:

"Only reverse migration can fully cure this situation."
— Donald Trump (13:20)

3. Afghans, Refugee Policy, and the GOP Divide

Timestamps: 30:44–37:46

• Guest: Nate Morris (Kentucky Senate Candidate):

  • Criticizes rival Andy Barr and Republican leadership for "standing with Joe Biden, Mitch McConnell, Mike Pence against the MAGA movement" on refugee resettlement.
  • Calls for a "full moratorium on any new immigration" until all "illegals" are deported. Declares, “We are absolutely full as a country, we can’t handle any more” (32:14–33:43).
  • Casts the national conflict as a defense of "Western civilization."

• Culture vs. Crime:

  • The discussion turns to fears of cultural replacement and demographic shifts (“We breed. We’re a breeding people... Your music sucks. All your culture sucks...” — Andrew Colvett quoting Wajahat Ali, 38:26).

• Blood on Their Hands Rhetoric:

  • Morris suggests that "Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, Andy Barr... have blood on their hands" for their immigration votes (36:07).

Notable Quotes:

“We need tough lines. We need tough men to defend Western civilization like yourself.”
— Andrew Colvett (35:05)

4. Crime, Media Framing, and Ethnic Bloc Politics

Timestamps: 22:17–23:08, 23:24–25:49

• Sympathy in the Press:

  • Panel derides media portrayals of the Afghan shooter as a victim of “financial stress and a potential mental health crisis,” mocking the "fourth such story" painting the killer as sympathetic (22:17–22:50).

• Minnesota Somali Welfare Fraud:

  • Discussion of a major fraud scandal involving Somali refugees in Minnesota, referencing NYT coverage and union/whistleblower claims that political fear of offending a "core voting bloc" enabled massive welfare fraud (23:24–25:49).

5. Polling: Immigration Moratorium’s Political Impact

Timestamps: 58:24–67:47

• Guest: Rich Barris (People’s Pundit, Pollster):
  • Real-time polling data shows majority support for Trump’s immigration moratorium: "It has not polled below a majority for the three days we’ve been in the field among likely voters. It’s actually 57%... plus 24" (60:06).
  • The policy is popular with significant support even among some Democrats; enthusiasm for voting (especially among Republicans) spikes by eight points following Trump’s announcement (63:22).

Notable Quotes:

“We just don’t see policies this popular very often anymore in this country... This is a consensus.”
— Rich Barris (60:50)

"This is what I voted for."
— Andrew Colvett (67:47)

6. Cultural and Ideological Realignment

Timestamps: 72:41–74:22

• Polling on Democrat Identity:

  • Barris shares findings that 60% of Democratic voters now self-identify as “democratic socialist” or “socialist” (74:22).
  • Discusses the erasure of "moderate" or "traditional liberal" from the Democratic coalition, concluding, “This is a party of socialists now.”

• Panel Analysis:

  • Suggests America faces a binary choice between "right wing populism in the form of MAGA" or leftist socialism, warning about the historical consequences of left-wing democide (75:07).
  • Blake Neff notes the “third worldification” of American political instincts.

7. Crime, Incarceration, and Immigrant Crime Rates

Timestamps: 82:49–100:32

• Guest: Heather McDonald (Crime & Immigration Commentator):
  • Addresses the problem of "under-incarceration," blaming “elite” values for “prioritizing the freedom of criminals and deranged people over the safety of the law-abiding” (84:57).
  • Argues the system is “way under-incarcerating,” citing the impact of "decriminalizing" and judicial reluctance due to disparate racial impact.
  • Details ripple effects of crime: rising housing prices, declining public order, and businesses shuttering due to shoplifting.

Notable Quotes:

“Prison remains a lifetime achievement award for persistence in criminal offending... You have to work very hard as a criminal to get a prosecutor and a judge to agree on sending you away for a long time.”
— Heather McDonald (90:57)

• Immigrant Crime Rates:

  • Disputes claims that immigrants commit less crime than natives: “The data... for especially illegal aliens offending is very, very scattershot and incomplete. It depends as well on the source country, the ethnicity. Asians generally have a much lower crime rate than everybody else, Hispanics generally higher than whites but lower than blacks...” (96:47–99:48).
  • McDonald: “By the second and third generation of immigrants, that’s where you see crime going up as the children of immigrants assimilate into the underclass culture.”

• Panel Conclusion:

  • Suggests that, above all, the true concern is cultural change and destabilization, not just crime rates.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Donald Trump (on Biden and refugees):

  “Because they let them in. Are you stupid? Are you, are you a stupid person? Because they came in on a plane along with thousands of other people that shouldn't be here.” (04:16–04:20)

• Andrew Colvett/Panel (reacting to anti-American rant):

  “That's the thing with brown people. I'm gonna say this as a brown person. There's a lot of us and we breed. We're a breeding people. Your story is a story filled with misery... your music sucks. All your culture sucks.” (38:26)

• Heather McDonald (on elite priorities):

  "The criminal justice system is set up by our elites – values the freedom of criminals and deranged people over the safety of the law abiding and the hardworking." (84:57)

• Rich Barris (on polling):

  “We’re looking at about a third who opposes it [immigration moratorium] and you can tell who they are... But among likely voters, this thing is popular." (60:06)

Important Segment Timestamps

• [09:16] – Recap of the National Guard ambush and attacker's background.
• [11:03] – Trump’s Truth Social immigration policy excerpt.
• [13:20] – “Only reverse migration can fully cure this situation.”
• [14:52] – Prediction: immigration moratorium widely popular, even beyond GOP.
• [22:17] – Media framing Afghan shooter in sympathetic light.
• [23:24] – Somali fraud case in Minnesota and partisan maneuvering.
• [30:44] – Nate Morris criticizes GOP rivals, reiterates “moratorium” platform.
• [35:05] – "We need tough lines, tough men to defend Western civilization."
• [59:29] – Rich Barris on immediate poll results for the proposed moratorium.
• [60:06] – "57% support among likely voters. Plus 24."
• [63:22] – Republican enthusiasm surges after Trump policy.
• [74:22] – 60% of Democrats now self-identify as democratic socialist or socialist.
• [84:57] – Heather McDonald on “under-incarceration” crisis.
• [96:47–99:48] – McDonald on unclear immigrant crime data, cultural concerns.

Tone & Style

The show is unapologetically combative, highly opinionated, and steeped in right-populist rhetoric. There’s frequent mockery of opponents, emotional pleas to "defend Western civilization", and fiery language regarding political elites and the consequences of immigration. Data and polling are used to buttress arguments that a restrictive, merit-based immigration system is not only necessary but extremely popular.

Conclusion: Core Takeaways

• The show frames the National Guard shooting as the latest and most pointed evidence that US immigration policy—especially refugee and asylum programs—are broken and dangerous.
• Trump's hardline proposal to halt all third-world immigration is not only justified, they argue, but extremely popular across party lines.
• The discussion repeatedly links mass migration to political instability, welfare abuse, urban crime, and perceived cultural decline.
• The podcast guests and hosts embrace a narrative of crisis and betrayal, urging tough new policies—in their view, the only way to preserve American identity and Western values.
• The left, Democrats, and "elite" Republicans are castigated for siding with foreign interests or criminals over ordinary Americans.

For listeners seeking a comprehensive conservative/“America First” reaction to recent U.S. news on immigration, crime, and cultural debate, this episode delivers in detail and intensity.