The Charlie Kirk Show, December 18, 2025

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show — December 18, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: iHeartPodcasts (guest hosts: Andrew, Blake Masters, Mike Lee, Libby Emmons, Mike Davis)
Date: December 18, 2025
Event Context: First day of America Fest (AmFest), Phoenix, AZ; first AmFest since Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the beginning of Turning Point USA’s America Fest (AmFest) in Phoenix—an emotionally charged gathering marking the first major conservative event since Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The show's hosts and guests reflect on Charlie’s impact, the state and unity of the conservative movement, and highlight hot-button topics ranging from President Trump's new policies to the latest in campus investigations, congressional controversies, and legal debates surrounding the Biden and Trump administrations. The tone is energetic, solemn, but hopeful—a rallying mix of tribute, analysis, and conservative advocacy.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Tribute to Charlie Kirk and the Spirit of AmFest

• Unity and Legacy:
  The episode repeatedly honors Charlie Kirk’s legacy and addresses the sense of loss and determination among Turning Point USA’s ranks.
  • “Charlie’s going to be there with us in spirit. The whole event is going to be guided by his mission and legacy.” (Andrew, 14:00)
• Importance of Live Events:
  • The hosts emphasize the necessity of gathering in person to promote movement unity and break social-media echo chambers.
  • “When you come together as one movement and one room and one building, I think magic happens.” (Andrew, 14:32)

2. Trump’s Announcements: Economic Measures and Military Bonus

• "Warrior Dividend" for Service Members:
  President Trump, in a widely-watched primetime address, announced a one-time $1,776 bonus for all U.S. service members.
  • “Every member of our military, E1 to O6—we’re calling it the Warrior Dividend. A direct investment in the brave men and women who carry on the legacy of our armed forces every single day before Christmas.” (Trump, 5:11)
• Tax Cuts & Economic Optimism:
  • Trump promised historic tax cuts, touting projected family savings of $11,000–$20,000 and predicting the largest tax refund season ever.
    • “Next year you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history…” (Trump, 5:46)
  • Discussion of inflation metrics; praise for better-than-expected numbers.
    • “I mean, I was surprised. It was a better number than anyone was expecting. … It was well below 3%.” (Mike Lee, 6:26)

3. AmFest: Gathering the Movement

• Size & Energy:
  • Tens of thousands expected; “after parties,” breakout sessions, and a diverse set of speakers (from Tucker Carlson to Byron Donalds).
  • Members-Only Lounge highlighted for exclusive interviews.
• Movement Unity:
  • The conservative movement’s various factions sometimes clash (“We disagree on things all the time…”), but the event is positioned as a moment of unity.
    • “Yet we are one big happy family. And when you focus your attention on a North Star… I think magic happens.” (Andrew, 14:07)
  • Ongoing challenge: can AmFest "unite" a movement that’s been “divided and raucous”?

4. The “Jeannie from Target” Story: Cancel Culture & Conservative Solidarity

• Incident Recap:
  • Jeannie, a Target employee wearing a “Charlie Kirk Show” shirt, is verbally accosted by a customer accusing her of racism.
    • “You support a racist.” — “It’s not racist.” — “Yes, he is.” (27:09)
  • Jeannie’s calm response and refusal to retaliate or demand consequences for her harasser draws admiration.
    • “I don’t think that’s right. Two wrongs don’t make a right… I don’t want her to lose her job.” (Jeannie, 29:13)
• Viral Support:
  • A GiveSendGo campaign surges past $220,000 in donations to support Jeannie.
  • Hosts celebrate her dignity: “She handled it with such grace and poise. … This is the heartbeat and the core of the character of America.” (Andrew, 28:39)

5. Brown University Shooting Investigation: Media & Law Enforcement Criticism

• Libby Emmons’ Analysis:
  • Libby Emmons (Post Millennial/Human Events) criticizes the ongoing investigation into a shooting at Brown University as “perhaps the most bungled…incompetent investigation” she’s seen.
    • “They have not even interviewed all of the students that were in the classroom at the time of the shooting.” (Libby Emmons, 39:48)
  • Police and Brown University face criticism for poor communication and lack of progress.
  • Discussion about potential political targeting and the tension between chasing leads and avoiding online “doxing.”
  • “It seems like Brown doesn’t care about catching a person who murdered two of their students.” (Blake Masters, 45:36)

6. Conservative Movement: Fracture and the Path Toward Unity

• Panel Thoughts on Realignment:
  • Libby Emmons reflects on the challenge of uniting the post-Charlie movement:
    • “We need to act in good faith with one another and just come around and say, you know, we agree on the most important things. Let’s work together to solidify the strength of this country and make this a better place.” (Libby Emmons, 57:51)
  • Discussions of necessary ideological “sifting” and the binary nature of the country’s political choices.

7. Legal & Political Analysis: FBI, DOJ, and the Mar-A-Lago Raid

• Mike Davis (Article 3 Project):
  • Argues the Mar-A-Lago raid was a political hit to recover Crossfire Hurricane records instead of about classified documents per se.
    • “The FBI knew they didn’t have probable cause… It’s so damning. … This is the biggest scandal in American history.” (Mike Davis, 75:53)
  • Criticizes judicial bias (specifically Judge Reinhart) and calls for a grand jury to investigate.
  • Dismisses Jack Smith’s defenses, arguing prosecutions against Trump were political and unfounded even by the standards used by the special counsel.
    • “Jack Smith is a partisan Scud missile who Democrats sent in to take out Republican presidential candidates.” (Davis, 77:40)

8. Congressional Procedures: Filibuster & Senate Reform

• Senator Mike Lee (R-UT):
  • Lays out concerns about chronic abuse of Senate cloture—the morphing of the filibuster into a mere procedural hurdle rather than true debate.
    • “We deceive the public into thinking that the reason we can’t do some of the things that we want to do is because we don’t have 60 votes.” (Mike Lee, 107:24)
  • Pushes for requiring actual debate (the “talking filibuster”), envisioning marathon sessions and renewed legislative rigor.
    • “The problem with today’s filibuster is that it’s not really a filibuster. … At no point have Democrats this year… been forced to go down to the floor and talk without stopping.” (Mike Lee, 103:00)
  • Asserts such reform requires no new rules—just enforcement.
    • “No rules change is required… The rules already contemplate that this is what a filibuster is.” (Mike Lee, 104:18)
  • Panel jokes about elderly senators facing the demands of all-night filibusters.

9. Foreign Policy & Executive Power: Bombing Narco Boats

• Presidential Authority:
  • Debate over the legality of using military force (air strikes on narco boats) under the Commander-in-Chief clause and the War Powers Act.
    • “If President Obama can drone strike Americans, President Trump can certainly bomb narco boats.” (Mike Davis, 88:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On movement unity:
  “We have to have an argument, a debate, and then we come back together.” (Andrew, 58:54)
• On America and self-confidence:
  “If you don’t love your country, you probably won’t treat it well either.” (Blake Masters, 20:08)
• Jeannie from Target’s grace:
  “I don’t want her to lose her job. Two wrongs don’t make a right.” (Jeannie, 29:13)
• On Brown shooting investigation:
  “How do they not know… who was there? … They’re sending out emails to try to figure it out. How is that even a thing?” (Andrew, 41:23)
• Mike Lee on the filibuster:
  “The problem with today’s filibuster is that it’s not really a filibuster.” (103:00)
• Mike Davis on DOJ/FBI:
  “This is the biggest scandal in American history.” (75:53)
• Blake Masters, dryly:
  “I’m seeing this could have the beneficial side effect [of] some earlier retirements by some guys who just say, ‘I’m not up for this.’” (103:41)
• Libby Emmons on the path forward:
  “We agree on the most important things. Let’s work together to solidify… the strength of this country.” (57:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• AmFest kickoff, unity after Charlie Kirk’s death: 11:09–16:20
• Trump’s “Warrior Dividend” & economic measures: 4:48, 17:58, 18:33
• “Jeannie from Target” incident & fundraiser: 26:39–31:54
• Brown University shooting investigation—Libby Emmons: 39:08–50:01
• Conservative movement fracture & unity panel: 55:41–60:32
• Mike Davis on Mar-a-Lago raid & DOJ/FBI: 72:11–81:00
• Senator Mike Lee on filibuster reform: 99:42–110:22

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Conclusion & Tone

This deeply reflective but forward-looking episode serves as both a tribute to Charlie Kirk and a window into the current battles—and hopes—within the American conservative movement. The show combines sharp criticism of opponents, legal and procedural deep dives, and sincere appeals for unity and dignity, all framed by the context of a movement in mourning but determined to move forward.

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For continued AmFest coverage, tune in via Real America’s Voice, Rumble, or TPUSA outlets.

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[Donald Trump]

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[Donald Trump]

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[Andrew]

Brand new numbers on inflation. You can see the annual rate of inflation down a little bit in November.

[Blake Masters]

It was at 3% the last time.

[Andrew]

We got a reading. Now it is ticked down, cooling slightly. The government just put out this new.

[Blake Masters]

Report saying that consumer prices were up by 2.7% year over year in November. That is much better than the forecast from economists which was for 3%.

[Andrew]

And as you mentioned, and this is a step in the right direction relative to September, which was at 3%. Now, I can't tell you what it was in October because the government shutdown messed with the collection of data during that month.

[Mike Lee]

I mean, I was surprised. It was a better number than anyone was expecting. Look, inflation's been very high.

[Andrew]

It stayed high.

[Mike Lee]

It has not been coming down. But you know, people were expecting it to be A above 3%. It was well below 3%. I mean, I think the President will take this as good news. The investors will think that interest rates will get cut more. So, you know, it was, it was a positive news. There's no other way to spin it.

[Donald Trump]

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The greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, Day one of AM Fest. It's about to get kicked off at the Phoenix Convention Center.

[Blake Masters]

I'm already, I'm kind of sad we're not in the convention center already.

[Andrew]

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I think we made the call earlier in the week because of tech and cruise and where everybody's setting up.

[Blake Masters]

I think Charlie would have had us be there.

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[Blake Masters]

Well, he need to be there. He would be.

[Andrew]

So Charlie would break glass. I actually don't know if he, he loved doing the show from this studio and it is, it's peaceful. It's true, it's true. You can gather your thoughts. It is a nice place to do a show from. But I, I had the same thought this morning because you want to be around the people. And tomorrow we're going to be doing the show live from the convention floor media row at the Real America's Voice booth. So if you are going to be in Phoenix today or tomorrow, meet us there. We're going to come right, right after Bannon War Room. I might try and get Bannon to do the show with us at the first block of the show. Just do a little handoff there. And then Steve's actually going to come on for the Members only lounge. We're going to be doing an interview with Steve Bannon, many others, Megyn Kelly, Michael Knowles, Riley Gaines, I think Don Jr. But don't quote me on that one just yet. Working on schedules, but it's going to be. So we're gonna have a packed members lounge. So members.charliekirk.com if you want to access that. You're going to be at the event. It's a really special moment where if you're a member of the Charlie Kirk Show Members Only community, then you get to come in and watch those interviews happen live. They're pre recorded so nobody else gets to see them. Just you get to ask questions. So that's happening tonight. Erica Kirk's going to kick off the event. She's going to welcome everybody. We have tens of thousands of people coming. I'm just going to leave it vague. Okay? I'm leaving it vague. Tens of thousands. It's going to be big. All the major media is going to be.

[Blake Masters]

We got it. We got an email where someone was sending off her, her teenage kids to go to AmFest at 3:30am from Iowa.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean it's going to be, it's going, there's after parties, there's. I think, I think Knowles is doing like a Cigar party, which will be fun. I don't know anything about it other than that, but it's going to be fun. It's going to be great. And. And it's funny. I've already had two interviews this morning with, I would say right of center media, but they were all asking, it's like, well, okay, the movement has been divided. Do you think Amfest can unite it? And my answer is simply, listen, we have a raucous bunch of people that make up the conservative movement. They represent all different factions of the conservative movement. Blake, you would occupy one lane. I'd probably be in a slightly different. We disagree on things all the time. Blake's laughing. Yes. Every morning I come in and go, hey, what about this? And then Blake says, that's dumb.

[Blake Masters]

That's stupid.

[Andrew]

But to be fair, you did that with Charlie, too.

[Blake Masters]

All the time.

[Andrew]

All the time. So. So anyways. But. But. But. Yet we are one big happy family. And when you focus your attention on a North Star, on a. Listen, do you want to live in Momdani's America? I certainly don't. And while we have a bunch of differences among the factions, when you have an event that gathers everybody together and says, here, here are. Here is our goal. And by the way, that person you think you're in a Twitter fight with over there, they're actually not that terrible of a person. You guys talk it out, things happen, relationships get formed, organizations cross pollinate, you break. Go to the breakout sessions. These events are powerful. Charlie knew that. That's why we put so much of an emphasis on these major conferences at Turning Point, because in real life, experiences are more important than ever. When everybody's so online, when everybody's, you know, they get down these rabbit holes of this debate or this conspiracy theory or whatever, when you come together as one movement and one room and one building, I think magic happens. So that's. That's the prayer. So send your prayers for Amfest. I think it's going to be one of the most important events in recent memory. Certainly it's going to be our first without Charlie, and that's really sad. But I also know that, you know, Charlie's going to be there with. With us in spirit. The whole event is going to be gathered around sort of his mission and the legacy and the things that he would want us to do. So if you can't make it, it will be right here on Real America's Voice. They're going to be streaming the speeches on Real America's Voice. Rumble's going to Be streaming them online and lots of other things going on. Blake, you. This is going to be, what, your third. Third Amfest or fourth?

[Mike Lee]

Fourth.

[Andrew]

Is it your fourth?

[Blake Masters]

Yes. First one was end of 22.

[Andrew]

Yeah, well, so you missed the. You missed the COVID That was long before my time. Everybody got covet the first year.

[Blake Masters]

Oh, man.

[Andrew]

Now it's cool to say, do we.

[Blake Masters]

Have to cover that up? Because they. Yeah, we didn't do the whole, like, super spreader event.

[Andrew]

We didn't talk about too much. Everybody got. I did not get Covid. You know, the first time I got Covid actually was at our other event, which was a super spreader event, which was co. That was December 2020. It was before we did Amfest. We had Student Action Summit in Florida, and I definitely got Covid at that event, so I got the OG Covid at that one. But everybody, you guys need to come check it out. And if you can't make it, then you need to just watch it right here at Real America's Voice or stream it on Rumble. Blake, let's talk about Venezuela. The rope a dope.

[Blake Masters]

A dope. The rope a dope. They trolled us pretty hard.

[Andrew]

They trolled us really hard. Everybody thought it was gonna be about Venezuela.

[Blake Masters]

President, if you forget, if you missed it, President Trump said, I will be giving an address to the Nation at 9pm tonight. And I think he even said about things related to my accomplishments this term. I think they did semi announce that, but everyone thought he'd also been hyping up. We had this big armada surrounding Venezuela, and then there were people. Tucker actually said he'd heard from a congressman, it was going to be announcing a war. And so you just had a lot of speculation about this. And the result of it was that he's talking at primetime and all the networks and all the news outlets, they bother to cover it because you definitely want to get it. If he's announcing a war, and instead he just trots out and talks about his domestic policies for the past year.

[Andrew]

It was a. It was a. Listen, I. I have reason to believe that this was intentional. The misdirection was intentional. The question is, were people like Tucker in on it? I've heard rumors that Tucker knew exactly what he was doing. I've heard rumors that they. Maybe he didn't. I don't know. But anyways, everybody thought that it was gonna be about Venezuela and we were gonna be invading Venezuela. I was just sitting at my computer going, like, that's gonna be fun. Everything about Amfest is Now going to be about foreign policy, which is not at all what we wanted to make it. So the fact that this is what ended up happening was I think, a stroke of, of genius and a masterful touch. Let's go ahead and play some of these clips to 71 next year.

[Donald Trump]

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[Andrew]

All right, so then he talks about warrior dividends. So every member of our armed forces, there's like 1.45 million of them are. Yeah, 1776. It's better than better. Nothing. Yeah, I love, I love giving some.

[Blake Masters]

So it's about two and a half billion dollars.

[Andrew]

It's a little bit of the tariff, the tariff revenue. So it looks like that's probably going to be what the tariff revenue goes to. I mean, there was a spirited debate in the right about whether or not we should use that money to pay down debts, which I think we should. But you know, there is a political incentive to give away free money. Let's just be honest.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah, there, there is.

[Andrew]

And so to do it for the men and women in the armed services is actually probably. I could, I could settle with that as a, as a threading the needle move. So I'm okay with that. Let's keep going here to 93.

[Donald Trump]

When the world looks at us next year, let them see a nation that is loyal to its citizens, faithful to its workers, confident to its identity, certain to its destiny and the envy of the entire globe. We are respected again like we have never been respected before.

[Andrew]

You know, you said something earlier this week, I think it was with Steve Dase where you said you looked at China and you were like, well, China at least, you know, is proud of itself. And I really believe that this is. When we talk about saving the west, it's talk, it's, it's, it's about restoring our self confidence in the greatness of our cultures and the greatness of our heritage. How much of American life is really on that fulcrum? It pivots on that fulcrum a great deal.

[Blake Masters]

It's especially just if you look at what really goes around in the discourse in university campuses, in especially a lot of the left, but increasingly on the right too. It's just, it actually frequently is dispirited and anti American. And that's not an attitude that tolerates any sort of sacrifice for the future, sacrifice for the good of the country. If you, if you don't love, if you don't love your family, you probably won't treat them well. And if you don't love your country, you probably won't treat it well either.

[Andrew]

I totally agree with that. I think that is the central, the central, I guess, question of the modern age for the West. Do we believe in ourselves and our culture? Do you believe in your country?

[Blake Masters]

Do you believe in your country existing?

[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

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[Blake Masters]

It's a time traveler from 2020, basically.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It felt like BLM all over. Yeah.

[Blake Masters]

Just these awful people. Cameras were a mistake for a lot of people.

[Andrew]

She posted.

[Blake Masters]

She posted it herself.

[Andrew]

She posted. It's really okay. So this.

[Blake Masters]

I thought it made her look awesome.

[Andrew]

This story has many twists and turns. Let's go ahead and play the original costing clip. The harassment clip. 222. It doesn't have to be the Charlie Kirk shirt. Yes. Oh, yes. I know. Stupid. No.

[Libby Emmons]

Why the would you wear that?

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You're at work at Target. That's not Target shirt.

[Libby Emmons]

It's not a plain red shirt.

[iHeart Advertising Announcer]

You support a racist.

[Andrew]

It's not racist.

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You support a racist.

[Andrew]

He's not a racist.

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Yes, he is.

[Andrew]

Yes, he is. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.

[Libby Emmons]

You're not. You should go get your manager. You should not be allowed to wear the at work. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. That's your opinion. The opinion is he's a racist and you support him.

[Andrew]

That's your opinion, ma'. Am.

[Libby Emmons]

And you should. You should not be allowed to wear that.

[Andrew]

This is going to be taken above your head.

[Libby Emmons]

That's insane. Insane.

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[Andrew]

I love how she goes. It's not racist. Okay. Have a nice day. I'm not gonna sit here and argue. What a beautiful response to a crazy person.

[Mike Lee]

Which.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. I mean, just nasty. And so listen, there was a givesend go. I want to give a huge shout out to Cassandra Fairbanks who messaged me about this and let me know that it was even a thing. And then she helped set up the givesend go. So go ahead and throw up.289. I actually don't know if this is the number. But they. They started trying to raise $50,000 just as just that. Bless this woman. And now it is over $200,000 raised.

[Blake Masters]

Let me get the latest amount.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Find the latest amount. And Cassandra Fairbanks, you are a good human for doing this and for just. Her name's Jeannie from Target and it's from Chino or something. Anyways. What a sweet, sweet lady. She handled that with such grace and poise. And now somebody has found Jeannie and asked her a couple questions. And she just keeps winning hearts in my. Like, this is. This is the heartbeat and the core of the character of America. That's really what I think about it. Jeannie is a sweetheart. 273. I know people are calling for her to be fired for this.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Do you think that that's right?

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Would you like that to happen?

[Andrew]

No, I. I don't think that's. That's right. Like, one saying I have is two wrongs don't make a right. You know, she wronged me, but I don't want to wrong her or I don't want her. Her wrong because it's not going to make it right. I mean, that was her opinion.

[Donald Trump]

She.

[Andrew]

But she's the one that put it on Facebook or put it on.

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On that.

[Andrew]

So, you know, but I. I really wouldn't want to see her. Somebody lose their job over it. Very sweet.

[Blake Masters]

Current total $220,277.

[Andrew]

I think we took that screen grab this morning and chill prep. So it has grown 18 still growing.

[Blake Masters]

And you want. I see there's a few people they do those parasitic ones that might, you know, aren't.

[Andrew]

The one you want is.

[Blake Masters]

The one you want is GiveSendGo.com/Jeannie from Target. G E A N I E. Genie from Target. It's also the one created by Cassandra Fairbanks with funds to be received by Jeannie Beeman.

[Andrew]

And so that's the one you want. God bless her. She's. And by the way, she has. She literally is trying to deny the money. And I don't think Cassandra is going to let her know. And that's how sweet this woman is. She's like, no, no, no, I don't want all this attention. I don'. And I think, I think we're sort of winning her over and, and trying to say, you will accept our love, you will accept our love. Let us bless you, you sweet lady. And I just love that she, first of all has the courage to wear a Charlie Kirk at Target in California in Chino. By the way, Chino's got a lot of wingers, right wingers in it. It's not, it's, it's not a. It's not like all of California has got no conservatives. Chino's got some conservatives, but. So she's in there, she's wearing the shirt, and she gets accosted, she gets wronged. Jeannie acknowledged that she wronged me, sure. But she handled it with such grace and dignity. And then people are calling for this gal. You can show the gives and go again. So the gal on the left is the woman that, with her phone up, she went and got her started swearing in her face. And I love that it's red v blue too, which is kind of fun. So that she's a radical progressive who goes and thinks it's cool to go harass a. A woman that's probably in her 60s or 70s, who's minding her own business, just working a job at Target. How dare you. Like, honestly, I don't really care enough to go much harder than that because you, you clowned yourself. You embarrassed yourself. But God bless you, Jeanne.

[Blake Masters]

Do you think we'll be able to get her to AMFOs? I know Tyler said we should try.

[Andrew]

I think we're. We're working on it. That's all I'm gonna say. Who knows? Jeannie. Jeannie wants to avoid the spotlight and I can appreciate that, but we're.

[Blake Masters]

Well, whatever happens, we salute you, Jeannie. We love you. Thank you so much for the love you showed, Charlie.

[Andrew]

We'll be right back.

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[Andrew]

News flash, Democrats. America is a republic, not a democracy. Fact check.

[Mike Lee]

True.

[Andrew]

All right. Welcome back. Patriot Mobile. Our friends over at Patriot Mobile, they are running their red, white and blue Friday promotion. Your once in a year chance to get a free smartphone just for switching to the nation's only Christian conservative wireless provider, a brand new phone absolutely free while supplies last. So for over 12 years, Patriot Mobile has defended faith, family and freedom in the public square while giving you the same or better premium coverage on all three major US Networks. Or like I do, I put two on one phone. You get a dual sim. It's the way to do it. Unlimited data, mobile hotspots, international roaming, they do it all. When you switch, you never sacrifice quality or service. Hundreds of thousands have joined the movement because every bill supports the first Amendment, the second amendment, sanctity of life and our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade to that free smartphone. Today, their 100 US based team can activate you in minutes. Go to patriot mobile.com Charlie or call 972 Patriot and use promo code Charlie. Don't wait. This is a limited time offer and while supplies last. So once they're gone, we're going to stop reading this ad read for you. It's going to go back to the normal ones because we'll have no more smartphones to give away. So that's patriot mobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot with promo code Charlie. Join me and make the switch. Today portions of the Charlie Kirk show are sponsored in part by Patriot Mobile. Joining us now is the great, the wonderful, the excellent, the inquisitive, Libby Emmons, Editor in chief of the Post, millennial and human events. Welcome, Libby, to the show. It is AmFest day one. Are you gonna be joining us?

[Libby Emmons]

I sure am. I'm here in Phoenix right now. I'm getting set to go over there.

[Andrew]

I should have had you on set. What are we doing here? It's way easier.

[Blake Masters]

We're big goofballs.

[Andrew]

Well, tomorrow maybe we'll just have to have you back on again. But we' do it on set because there's lots to discuss. Libby, I noticed that you were, you know, tweeting about this, what is quickly becoming probably one of the most bungled or at least apparently incompetent investigations I've ever seen.

[Blake Masters]

It really is.

[Andrew]

And that's the Brown shooting. So could you just bring us up to speed? Where are we at now and what do we need to know?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, so far I believe we are at nowhere. We are exactly where we were shortly after the shooting. The police don't really seem to have any leads. They don't seem to have any real information to go on. Every time you watch one of these press conferences, which they deliver every evening from Providence, they tell you how the police are not demoralized and they're doing a great job and everyone's working together and once they crack the case, it'll crack wide Open. But nothing seems to be happening. They released their first person of interest. Then there was another person of interest that they have been looking for. Then they're looking for another person of interest. They can't seem to find anybody. They don't really give any information about it. Last night, when they were being asked by the press about this person of interest, they could not even say whether or not it was a man or a woman that they were looking for. So that's kind of a big thing. And then one thing that I found really, really shocking is that they have not even interviewed all of the students that were in the classroom at the time of the shooting. They have. They say that they have been. The police say they have been working with Brown University to get the names of those individuals and to get in contact with them, but that Brown has sent out an email to this to all students saying, hey, if you were in this classroom for this study session, let us know so you can talk to police. But police have not talked to all of those students and they don't even know who all of them were. And in the press conference yesterday, they wouldn't even say what kind of gun was used because they are worried that that would influence the answers of the students. They eventually get around to talking to them.

[Andrew]

Yeah, so the. They. I mean, how do they not have all the students in the actual scene of the crime and they're sending out emails asking for. I mean, how is that even a thing? You would think.

[Libby Emmons]

How is that even possible? Yeah, how is that even possible? How do they not know, like, go. They were on the crime scene shortly after the shooting.

[Andrew]

The.

[Libby Emmons]

The. The whole school was in shelter in place, lockdown until the morning. And they didn't stop to say, hey, let's talk to every single person in that classroom. Instead, they took in a person of interest. They went and searched his hotel room, whatever. Sunday night, that person was released. Brown had already shut down the campus till the end of the term and sent everybody home. So now all they can do is like, hope that they can get out to Peoria or whatever and get in touch with the students who were in the room. And there's also indications, and this is not something police have really said, but there's indications that it was just the one student who was intentionally targeted. We don't seem to have any answers. Answers on that. And that would seem to be a huge indication of who the suspect might be if you knew who it was that they were targeting. But there's absolutely nothing this AG Peter Nerona he seems like a total fool. He just goes out there and he's like, oh, the cops are doing a great job. And the cops are like, yeah, we don't really have any answers. And they're encouraging the public to come forward and give any information that they have. But as soon as the public says anything on Twitter, they get yelled at. You know, I mean, yet what is going on? This guy is clearly just going to get away at this point. It's been, what, five days? Rhode island is a small state. There's no reason to believe he's still in state. There's no reason to believe he's still in the country.

[Blake Masters]

They say the. The line from the Providence police chief was, he could be anywhere. We don't know where the person is or who he is. Wow, that really. That's really inspiring confidence. And I'm reading other stuff here. Apparently the city of Providence has this new program to basically give police real time access to security cameras. And there's hundreds of security cameras around the city they have real time access to. But you can probably guess where there's a giant black hole where they don't have access to the security camera footage.

[Andrew]

Brown University.

[Blake Masters]

Brown University. No access.

[Andrew]

How is that.

[Libby Emmons]

There was also a question. One of the reporters last night said, hey, we saw in some security footage, we saw this person walking past a patrol car. Did you get anything off the dash case of that car? And the chief of police said, oh, that. We believe that was a brown. Brown security vehicle. And we don't know if they have dash cams installed. They don't know. Like, they didn't ask. Have they asked? Like, what are they doing?

[Blake Masters]

We need to have these press conferences because apparently they can get good ideas from us.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Oh.

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Oh, we should ask.

[Blake Masters]

That sounds like a great idea.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Blake Masters]

Anyone else around the group?

[Andrew]

This is a group. This is a group ideation session we're just going to throw out Creative. Oh, okay. Good. Dash cam on a security vehicle. Check calling 275. They have found live rounds. They're hoping to get DNA off this 275.

[Terrance Bates]

What I can tell you from my sourcing is that I think quite significantly.

[Andrew]

They have live rounds.

[Mike Lee]

That is rounds that were not fired.

[Terrance Bates]

Undetonated rounds.

[Andrew]

Live rounds at this scene I think.

[Mike Lee]

Is a hopeful sign for getting usable.

[Andrew]

DNA even if he's not in the database. Remember, they can use that familial DNA.

[Mike Lee]

Technique that we saw in the Coburger case. It gets to a cousin or something. You work back from there.

[Andrew]

So I think That's a positive sign for the investigation.

[Mike Lee]

And I can tell you they're scraping very hard at it.

[Andrew]

I have to play this clip, Blake, because this. This is just shocking. I got it from Libby, highlighted it. It's 301. This is them admitting they don't even know which students were in the room when the shooting began. I just cannot believe this. 301. That's all part of the interviews. And actually we're cooperating with Brown to get the roster. That was a study hall, so we don't have the number. We're still getting information as far as who was there. I know Brown sent out an email.

[Mike Davis]

To the students to notify us if.

[Andrew]

They were present, and we're still getting that. So I can't give you an exact account now. We sent out emails.

[Blake Masters]

I just. This really. So we're bullying the police, but really the focus needs to be, I think heavily on Brown here, that they're not. It's clear that the police are requesting this information. And it seems, I'll be frank, it seems like Brown doesn't care about catching a person who murdered two of their students.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And that's a fair point. So Brown was caught sort of scrubbing their web pages of a certain person. Again, we're not going to mention this person because we. We don't know if this person is actually guilty of anything or involved at all. But. But they were caught scrubbing a Muslim student who went by he. They pronouns. There's. There's.

[Blake Masters]

Who has a sort of portly shape.

[Andrew]

And the first person of interest, they had a portly shape, look like it could be a match. Do we know? And then they get this other person of interest. Are we supposed to assume there was multiple people involved or is that first person of interest now no longer a person of interest? Like, what's going on here? What do we know about this?

[Libby Emmons]

So they indicate after the first person of interest was released, they came up with a second person of interest. That second person of interest on, I believe, what is today, It's Thursday, on Tuesday night. They said that that second person of interest was likely a suspect when they were questioned about it. And now they are looking for, in fact a third person of interest who may know the. The second person of interest. So that is sort of the timeline. They won't tell us if any of these people have a specific gender. Or maybe they better know if it has a specific gender identity. Who knows? But, yeah, then they were caught scrubbing the pages of this one student and then sort of surprisingly, what they did is they came out conference again. This was the Tuesday one. They came out in a press conference shaming everyone for, for, for looking around for who this person of interest, you know, number two could be. Then they were like, hey, you know, you're doxing people, you're talking about people. How dare you implicate anybody at all. Meanwhile, hey, send us all your tips, let us know what you're seeing. We have no idea who this is, but don't talk about it amongst yourselves. Just come talk to the police about it. So that seems a little irresponsible as well. To press conference yesterday, they were saying, hey, there's AI images being shared. These are not accurate. We have a folder online, you can look at all of the images that we have. But I think the fact of the matter is that the public would not be so interested and determined in trying to find out any information conceivable about this shooter if the police and Brown University were more forthcoming or had perhaps identified a suspect of some kind. You know, I mean, people want to know who the shooter is, who wandered onto this Brown campus, managed to get into a secure facility and opened fire on students. They want to know who that is. Parents want to know, the community wants to know.

[Andrew]

I know. Jack Posobic was reporting this morning that he had heard from some pretty high level sources that Ella Cook, the vice president of the College Republicans at Brown, was indeed targeted. Now, we're not hearing that from officials, so again, that's just one report. We've heard other reporting that seems to indicate that could be true. I'm going to reserve final judgment there. But that came straight from Jack. Jack said that came from a good source. So do we know? Are we closer to getting them to confirm that? Why the reticence? They just simply don't know.

[Blake Masters]

I don't think we can know until they've caught a suspect.

[Andrew]

Well, it seemed like this person walked right into the room and targeted Ella Cook directly. Multiple shots, I think maybe even eight shots or something. And the reporting from Poso is that that the other victims in the room were just incidental to that. So again, we don't know. I can't confirm that again, I'm just saying that's one report that seems to make at least some sense. And why that's important. If we know that she's was targeted, then that tells us a lot about motivation. That tells us who we should be looking for. I mean that, that a lot hinges on that. So if there's any indication that that would be true. We need to know that. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And also if Ella Cook was directly targeted and it, she was targeted by, you know, know, someone who was affiliated with the university, because otherwise why would they be there? How would they have gotten in? You could imagine that there would have been social media chatter between that person and Ms. Cook or that person condemning things that Ms. Cook had said. Because these things don't just start when you start opening fire, you know, it starts on social media.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Stay right there, Libby. We'll keep you for another segment. So much to talk about, but this Brown University just, it's just been bungled. There's no, there's no doubt. We'll be right back.

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[Andrew]

The Charlie Kirk show, where truth lives. All right, welcome back. You know the. But this again, you've chastised us a bit, Blake, for bullying the police here. But I just have, I have to play this clip because I don't doubt that Colonel Oscar Perez and the Providence police are doing their level best. I mean, maybe I doubt it a little bit, but it might just be as good as they can do. But the incompetence is clearly visible to everybody. And there's an older clip here a couple years ago of him bragging about the diversity. I mean, it just go like it always happens this way. 303.

[Terrance Bates]

We're a majority minority city. To really understand what it means to police South Providence, the west end, Oneyville.

[Donald Trump]

The east side of Providence, when you.

[Andrew]

Have an officer that responds to a call, and I'll put myself as an example, a Latino call, and there's a.

[Donald Trump]

Party going on or put Rican party.

[Andrew]

Or Colombian party, we tend to be loud. And so if you're not used to an understanding of what that means, you may escalate a situation that did not require an escalation according to the FBI.

[Blake Masters]

You know, in 1965, we had a 90% clearance rate on homicides. The police charged a suspect in over 90% of cases. And we are down to 55% as of 2020.

[Andrew]

That's nationwide.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah, that's nationwide. FBI.

[Andrew]

I wonder what, what is it in, like, South Chicago, though? Oh, it's miserable. Miserable. Yeah. Isn't it like 20 clear?

[Blake Masters]

Something like that.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's terrible. And they don't want to talk to the police. And all of this stuff is a, is a symptom of, like, larger problems about racial animus and division that has been stoked since really, since the 90s.

[Blake Masters]

I, I do care about catching criminals most of all. You'll catch criminals if you care about having diversity the most. You'll have a lot of diversity.

[Andrew]

Yeah. So much to say here. And I just feel like Brown University president. What's her name again?

[Blake Masters]

Christina Paxson.

[Andrew]

Yeah. She's, she's worried about doxing these people of interest, potentially. The Internet is trying to help. This is not like, these are not wild.

[Blake Masters]

We shouldn't just spew people's names. But it's understandable why people ask questions.

[Andrew]

About that when it's being handled so, so bizarrely. All right, we're gonna welcome back Libby Emmons for radio in about two seconds. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Libby Emmons, editor in chief of the Post. Millennial and human events is with us. Libby, I'm gonna get your broad take on the conservative movement, but I, I have a little bit of housekeeping. Apparently I said Chino with genie from Target. Yeah, that's so Chico. That's. I know how to get emails out of the audience. Our inbox just flooded.

[Blake Masters]

Can't mess that up.

[Andrew]

Chico. Okay, Chico, I'm sorry. There's two names in California that sounds very similar, but one is Southern California, one is northern, this is north of. And Chico is a Republican count. So barely you said, right?

[Blake Masters]

Yes, yes, just barely.

[Andrew]

It's like a few percentage point went for Trump. The other piece of housekeeping I want to get to is that, you know, there's, I think there's confusion about the radio part. The show will continue on Real America's Voice. This was something Charlie had actually decided before he was killed, that we were gonna be kind of more focused on streaming and the over the top and Real America's Voice and podcasting. So. So this was kind of his decision. We're going with it. We support, we absolutely love Alex. Marlo and Scott Jennings are great people. I'm so happy that they're going to get radio time. That just was a different direction. But the show will be at the same time frame. It'll be right here in January and then in the next year. And so all good things. I think people are confused about that. So I just want to make a clarifying point. The show is going to be the same time time, same place. It just, we're just kind of transitioning to a bit more streaming friendly format for the show and things like that, which is what Charlie wanted to do. All right, Libby Emmons, big picture. We got about four minutes, three and a half minutes left here. So there's been a lot made about just the fracturing, the consternation on the right. How do you think we fix that? What would you like to see happen at amfest? I'm already getting that question a lot this morning, so I wanted to throw it to you as well. How do you think Amfest can be this moment where we. Where we kind of. Of crystallized some things and we move into 20, 26 and strength? You're muted, I think, unless we have you muted.

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[Blake Masters]

Did we lose her entirely?

[Andrew]

Oh, it's on Libby. Oh, no.

[Blake Masters]

We definitely needed to bring her in.

[Andrew]

It was a good setup. Yeah, I took. I took a lot of time to set that up. All right, Blake, the question's to you. Oh, wait.

[Blake Masters]

Oh, is she back?

[Andrew]

Wait, there you are.

[Blake Masters]

There we are.

[Andrew]

There we are there.

[Blake Masters]

All right.

[Andrew]

Give us your. Give us your answer. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

I do hope that Amfest is an opportunity for people to come together and to coalesce on values and views. I know that it certainly has been in the past, and a lot of people are anxious to see what happens now that Charlie Kirk has been killed. I mean, you guys know better than anyone how devastating that has been personally and for the movement and for everything. Charlie had his hands pretty much on everyone. You know, he touched everything in this movement. And I think that it is up to us to continue. Continue that legacy by reaching out hands to each other without, you know, that primary person who just kind of knew everyone and knew what to say, and everyone had pretty much confidence that Charlie was always acting in good faith. I think we need to remember that and need to act in good faith with one another and just come around and say, you know, we agree on the most important things. Let's work together to solidify, you know, the strength of this country and to make this a better place.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And at some point, listen, I actually think movements and coalitions get rebuilt. Right. This is like Hillary Clinton did not get the same coalition that Obama when she was running. Okay. She has to rebuild her own coalition. H.W. bush, Reagan. You could make arguments about that. Sometimes movements have to have a sifting. We have to have an argument. We have to have a debate. Debate, and then we re. We come back together. But. And. And so I would just say that ultimately we are faced with pretty much a binary choice. Do you want mamdaniism? Do you want AOC ism? Do you want mangioniism? Or do you want maga ism? Do you want a populist, nationalist, conservative movement? And ultimately, that. That is going to be a purifying choice at some point, don't you think, Blake? And I don't know when, but I mean.

[Blake Masters]

And I guess they can also just choose. Neither.

[Andrew]

They could opt out. They could opt out, and I hope.

[Blake Masters]

They don't which is disgraceful.

[Andrew]

If you do that is not the American way. When I was growing up, it was like, if you didn't participate in the American process, it's your civic life. It was disgraceful. It was dishonorable, and it still is. But it wasn't even something I questioned 30 seconds.

[Libby Emmons]

But we also had this, we also had this idea certainly when I was growing up, that this was the greatest country in the world, that it was the greatest empire ever built. We never questioned it. And I think we need to get back to that. And I will say, as I was flying out here yesterday from the East Coast, I saw a lot of people in Charlie's freedom shirt and they were smiling each other. They were strangers and they were all coming together because they all knew where each other was going and they were glad to see more people like them headed in the right direction.

[Andrew]

Well, the right direction is Phoenix, Arizona. That is for sure. The center of the conservative universe will be right here at Phoenix Convention Center. Libby, I'll see you maybe tomorrow. Tomorrow, like maybe. We'll just do it again. Run it back. All right, hour two coming up. Mike Davis and Senator Mike Lee join us. We will be right back. Don't go anywhere.

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[Terrance Bates]

Terrance Bates here with more on America Fest, or AM Fest as it's more commonly referred to. It's getting underway in about an hour in Phoenix, Arizona. It's the first TP USA amfest without Charlie Kirk. We're hearing that attendance this year is at a record high. However, given what happened to Charlie, security is also super tight There, as you can see from this live picture, Real America's Voice is on the ground at AM Fest. And we'll of course have live coverage for you throughout the day and throughout the weekend. You're getting some behind the scenes views here of what's happening as the program itself is set to start in 58 minutes and 20 seconds. And counting down. The legacy cemented, as you can see here on the billboard, among the speakers slated to speak today during this edition of amfesta, Vice President J.D. vance, Donald Trump Jr. Erica Kirk, Steve Bannon, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, many others. I'm just looking at the list here. It looks like Director Tulsi Gabbard, DNI director will be there. Also, House Speaker Mike Johnson slated to speak. Vivek Ramaswamy is also one of the people on the list here to speak. Of course, Jack Posobec, Congressman Byron Donalds, who of course also running for governor in Florida, is also on the list to speak. So it truly is a who's who. Dr. Ben Carson, it looks like Ken Paxton, Texas attorney general, will be speaking as well. Congressman Andy Biggs, who of course is from Arizona where this event is being held. Also slated to speak so truly a who's who and again in just under an hour is when this event will officially get underway. We're hearing that Erica Kirk will open the things up as she is now the leader of tpusa. And all of this happening, obviously, after Charlie Kirk's assassination. We'll continue to cover this for you throughout the weekend. So make sure you keep it right here on Real America's VOICE for the very latest. In the meantime, American troops around the world will get a BONUS Check for $1,776 this Christmas. It's one of the highlights from President Trump's primetime address from the White House last night. In general, the president used the podium to try and convince Americans that the economy and affordability isn't as bad as many might believe. Meantime, there's also upheaval at the FBI. The bureau's second in charge, Dan Bongino, says he is resigning next month. Bongino hasn't even been on the job for a year. His time at the FBI was marked by clashes with the Justice Department over the handling of the Epstein files case case. Both President Trump and FBI Director Cash Patel are praising the work Bongino has done. Bongino has said that he'll leave next month, but apparently at this point there's no specific date for his departure. It's one of the stories we'll continue to monitor for you. And former special prosecutor and special counsel Jack Smith is defending the cases he brought against President Trump during closed door testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday. Smith told lawmakers, and this is a quote, if asked whether to prosecute a former president based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether the president was a Republican or a Democrat. Those remarks were released as excerpts from his opening statement. And once again, stay here on Real America's Voice for the very latest from Amfest in Phoenix, Arizona, which is set to get underway here momentarily. Real America, America's Voice will have live coverage for you not just throughout today, but throughout the weekend, so make sure to stay tuned so you can be front and center to witness what's happening at amfest. That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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[Andrew]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. First day of America fest at the Phoenix Convention center kicks off tonight. Erica Kirk's gonna be welcoming everybody. We got Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro and more. I think Russell Brand. I forget who all is actually in tonight, but it's a killer lineup and it just keeps going the whole weekend. There are no breaks, no taking our foot off the gas. It's going to be absolutely amazing. Lots of interviews at the members charliekirk.com Lounge. So those are private for members of the Charlie Kirk show community, which is great. But in the meantime, Charlie Kirk show.

[Blake Masters]

Community or like the intelligence community or something.

[Andrew]

It's a community. It's a, it's a group of people that share something in common. But right now we have Mike Davis, the Article 3 project. Mike, welcome back to the show, my friend. There is all this news swirling. Chuck Grassley, I know you know Chuck Grassley, Senator Grassley ghastly puts out this memo and basically says the FBI denied that there at least is there's voices within the FBI asserting that they did not have probable cause to raid Mar A Lago. Then you got Jack Smith who goes in for an eight hour closed door testimony making his case for why he, you know, embarked upon this special counsel political prosecution of President Trump. What, what is the truth? What did they learn yesterday? And you know, what is going on behind the scenes with this FBI bombshell from Senator Grassley?

[Mike Davis]

Well, it's what we've been discussing on this show for over three years, Andrew, and that is that this was a political hit on President Trump in Mar A Lago it was a political hit to get back the damning crossfire hurricane records that President Trump Trump declassified via presidential executive order the day before he left office the first time. And they wanted to get back these records because they're so damning they knew these records were going to come out because President Trump sued Hillary Clinton in a civil lawsuit in the Southern District of Florida for Crossfire Hurricane for the Russian collusion hoax when Obama, Biden, Hillary, Brennan Clapper comedy. So many bad actors politicized and weaponized intel agencies to protect Hillary and her corruption when she was Secretary of State and the Clinton foundation was taking tens of millions of dollars in shady foreign donations. We're just learning today that there is evidence of quid pro quo foreign corruption with that, that the Biden Justice Department sat on. And then with Crossfire Hurricane, they wanted to take out President Trump's campaign. So if these damning, if this damning evidence came out of Hillary Clinton's corruption because her server got hacked, that she wanted to be able to point to the Trump campaign and say, you can't believe this is a campaign dirty trick. This is a hoax. The same thing with Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020. So the FBI knew they didn't have probable cause to do this raid to get back these crossfire hurricane records. You have this U.S. magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in the Southern District of Florida who was on the Trump versus Hillary civil case. He had to recuse because he had 2017 Facebook post trashing President Trump. So obviously he's not going to be a fair judge. Six weeks later, that judicial bias somehow magically disappeared when Jay Bratz from the Biden Justice Department, who went on to work for Jack Smith, went to Bruce Reinhart and got this unprecedented its unlawful home raid on Trump when they knew they didn't have probable cause. It's so damning. I've talked about this for a long time. They've opened up a new grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, in the Southern District of Florida. My friend Jason Redding Quinones is Trump's new U.S. attorney. And I have very publicly called for a grand jury to probe all of this and hold all of these lawfare Democrats and other bad actors accountable for this because this is the biggest scandal in American history.

[Andrew]

Wow. So you've got. You know what will never cease to amaze me is that you have these federal judges that just go on Facebook and like, Trump's terrible. Like, I mean, like the fact that a judge would feel so, you know, loose to something to say Something political publicly on a social media site. It's just damning. I mean, in and of itself, I just find it really crass and low class actually. I don't know if you're trying to chime in here, Blake, but it's just like, you know, judges, you have this air of impartiality, you have an air of being above the fray and then you just go on Facebook and like Trump sucks. Like, okay, I don't know, it just seems beneath the office. Yeah, it is.

[Mike Davis]

It's also a violation of the judicial canons. But I would say this about that US Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhardt. The timing of that Mar A Lago rate seems very fishy. He recuses in the civil lawsuit. Six weeks later the recusal issue goes away and all of a sudden Jay Bratt is down in Mar A Lago sniffing around and coming up with a pretext to do this raid for presidential records that the President is allowed to have under the Presidential Records Act. What did Bruce Reinhardt Hart talk to Jay Bratz about this? How did Jay Bratt know that these documents were going to be produced in that civil lawsuit versus Hillary when it was. This whole thing needs to be investigated and it all of these bad actors need to be investigated, including these judgments.

[Andrew]

So you say we need accountability here. I would agree. Mike Davis Article 3 Project what so you, you, you form a grand jury. What, what would accountability look like for somebody like Jack Smith?

[Mike Davis]

The accountability would be what we've been talking about for over three years. You open up a criminal probe under 18 USC section 241 conspiracy against rights. When you politicize and weaponize intel agencies and law enforcement to go after your political enemies for non crimes, that's, that's the textbook definition of conspiracy against rights. Jack Smith is very well aware of this conspiracy against rights crime because it's one of the four charges he made against President Trump. For the non crime of the non crime of President Trump objecting to a presidential election which is allowed by the Electoral Count act of 1887 and the First Amendment. Jack Smith can go into that closed door hearing and say whatever he wants. He said he had all the goods, he had all the evidence against get President Trump. He didn't. This guy is a partisan Scud missile who Democrats sent in to take out Republican presidential candidates. They sent in Jack Smith to take out former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell when he was a likely presidential candidate. For Republicans, Jack Smith got a criminal conviction for fraud. It got overturned eight to nothing by the Supreme Court of the United states it would have been nine to nothing. But Justice Scalia died. But Jack Smith didn't care. The damage was done. He took out Governor McDonnell as a presidential candidate. Jack Smith got banished to the Hague. He should have lost his law license after that. He's after you get beat eight to nothing at the Supreme Court. It's very hard to get beat eight to nothing at the Supreme Court, particularly on a criminal case. But Jack Smith found the way and they brought him back. The Biden regime brought him back to take out Trump at all costs. They failed because President Trump hired John Sauer, then now the solicitor general. And John Sauer raised the presidential immunity argument, which stopped the prosecutions in their tracks. But if John Sauer didn't do that, President Trump would be sitting in a prison cell right now instead of the White House.

[Blake Masters]

But it does strike me, isn't that probably the best defense Jack Smith could make is you can say it's politicized. I think we agree it felt politicized. But a lot of it is if they can cover it with enough measure of legal formality and you know, getting evidence. He, he brings up, we have part of his statement and he said, I just brought the charges that a grand jury returned. So doesn't he have sort of a pretty strong defense of a grand jury agreed with this?

[Andrew]

You know, 50 seconds.

[Mike Davis]

Everyone knows a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. And you have a separate duty as a prosecutor to make sure that you have probable cause, to make sure that there is a good faith legal basis for what you're doing to make sure that you're not bringing not he. Remember what Jack Smith did, He brought novel legal charges. He tried to throw Trump in prison for the non crime of having presidential records, which is allowed by the Presidential Records Act. He tried to throw Trump in prison for the non crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral council Act of 1887 and the First Amendment. Jack Smith politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement to take out Trump along with many, many others. And Jack Smith can raise that defense to the jury.

[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

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[Mike Davis]

The President of the United States, as the commander in chief, Chief, has the constitutional and statutory power and duty to protect our nation, including repelling an invasion. And that's exactly what's going on here. You have these narco boats bringing in fentanyl that's killing tens of thousands of Americans. And that the President is well within his constitutional and statutory authority. He's well within his constitutional authority as the commander in chief under the commander in chief, chief clause, even if there's not a declaration of war. Because going back to our founding, everyone agrees that the president can repel an invasion into our country. And also under the War Powers act of 1973, passed by Congress over President Nixon's veto. Many presidents do not consider the War Powers act constitutional because they think it constrains too much of the president power to fight wars and to defend our country. But even if you think that the War powers Act of 1973 is constitutional, what President Trump is doing is within his statutory powers under the War Powers act of 1973. There's no legal issue here whatsoever. And I don't remember these Democrats like Senator Mark Kelly complaining when President Obama ordered extrajudicial drone strikes on American citizens abroad, including a minor. And I supported that. If President Obama can drone strike Americans, President Trump can certainly bomb narco boats.

[Blake Masters]

Are there any limits on what he could choose to bomb?

[Andrew]

I suppose, sure.

[Mike Davis]

I mean, there are limits. You have to show that there's. If the President is bombing things that are not a danger to the United States, then sure, there could be limits on that. But the president has very broad discretion. He has very broad power and very broad discretion as the chief executive officer and as the commander in chief as it relates to controlling our military, protecting our country, protecting shipping lanes, protecting our allies. He has broad powers. Remember, if you look at the Constitution, the Congress has the power to declare war, not make War. Right. And so there's a difference there. And the founders actually debated that if you go back and look at the Federalist Papers, they intentionally changed that language from make war to declare war to give the president more leeway, more running room to protect our country.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean, I'm mostly just worried that if the future elections don't go our way, that they're gonna try and, you know, know, throw Secretary Hegseth in the gulag.

[Blake Masters]

I doubt they would. I think there's probably a. I mean there's, I guess I shouldn't say they won't because there's really no limit to the damage the left might do to the country in a fit of pique. But I think historically at least there would be a very strong bipartisan hesitancy to have our military leaders be second guessing actions they take because they're just going to get prosecuted for it by the other party at that. Because at that point, point, if they're going to throw out that they could do it for probably any other military action as well, I think you'd need a more clear cut unanimity on it being something completely unacceptable. You know, massacre a village in Vietnam.

[Andrew]

Where they had evidence that was clear that they were only civilians, for example. Mike, we've got only about a minute and a half left in this segment, but I wanted to play this cut from Judge Jeanine or I guess U.S. attorney Janine Pierce. 291.

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[Andrew]

Know, misclassify, mischaracterize certain categories of crime. And it was an attempt to make crime look lower than it was. And the investigation that we conducted over.

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[Andrew]

Looked at, over 50, which. And those witnesses were rank and filed.

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[Andrew]

Now we're in a situation with President.

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[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

My question's quick here, Mike. What can you do? I guess state level, other states are probably cooking the books on crime stats as well, but at least in D.C. there is some federal control. How do you fix this? Who can you hold accountable? Accountable? 20 seconds.

[Mike Davis]

I would open a criminal probe because if you are making false statements to the federal government with your crime statistics in order to get, for example, more grant money, you could be charged for that. You could be charged for fraud, you could be charged for conspiracy.

[Andrew]

Can judge be charged? Can Jeanine Pirro do that?

[Mike Davis]

She she could. I think that she should look more look more closely at this.

[Andrew]

Mike Davis. Thanks for the time, my friend. We'll see you soon. Soon. We'll be right back.

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[Andrew]

Next surrender. When you're up against the world, the.

[Mike Lee]

Hardest working radio show in the business.

[Andrew]

The Charlie Kirk Show. Did I get a fist bump from you?

[Blake Masters]

Yes, you did. Saxon's awesome. Never surrender.

[Andrew]

Never surrender.

[Blake Masters]

That's what Charlie would say.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Never surrender. It's good. All right, we're about to bring in Senator Mike Lee, but before I do, I want to tell you about our friends over at TikTok. Good conversation is about respect. Respect. It's how we create a space where people are actually able to share their ideas and be heard. Charlie knew this turning point, knows this. And Tik Tok is always strive to create that kind of place where respectful connection can happen and thrive, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other. When ideas meet respect and back and forth, that's when good things happen. So on Tik Tok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem, problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name. You can find a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers. TikTok then allows people to comment and say thank you, ask more questions. Tick tock turns connection into community through small acts of understanding. You can feel it in the comments, in the thank yous from a stranger halfway across the world. It's a place where respect can open massive opportunities for discussion and connection. Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are brought to you in part part by TikTok. All right, so Senator Mike Lee, welcome back to the show. It's great to have you. Thank you for making the time. There has been a raging debate online. And then I think Mark Wayne Mullen, one of your Senate colleagues who's also comes on the show often, sort of seemed like he was now open to the idea of nuking the filibuster. I had all these questions. Why would. If we don't, you know, you got Mitch McConnell, you got Susan Collins, Murkowski. I don't know what you could even get accomplished if you do do nuke the filibuster. And then you came out with this tweet. 308, you say the chronic abuse of the Senate 60 vote cloture standard must come to an end. Now The Senate GOP must immediately start fighting cloture abuse by, among other things, requiring senators to debate. So lay out what, how this is distinct from just nuking the filibuster.

[Mike Lee]

Look, these are all ways that we're focused on to try to end and filibuster abuse and cloture abuse. And first, let me explain what cloture is and what the filibuster is. This from the very beginning of its existence for, you know, nearly two and a half centuries has had, as a general rule, unlimited debate that you allow. As long as any senator wants to debate, debate will continue. Now, starting about a century ago, I think it was maybe in 1917, they came up with a means by which they could bring debate to a close. Initially it required a 3,4 supermajority, that was later lowered to a 2/3 supermajority. It's now a 3/5 super majority and has been there for about 50 years. Meaning in a 100 vote Senate, you've got to have 6,60 votes from 60 different senators to bring debate to a close. Then and only then can you bring debate to a close. So the whole point of this cloture rule, it's not to create a de facto 60 vote threshold for passing legislation itself. It often has that effect. But really the purpose of it is to extend debate unless or until you get 60 votes to bring debate to a close. Here's what it's metastasized into. What it's turned into is something very interesting. It's turned into people saying, well, I don't want to vote for it, I won't support cloture, therefore I don't have to debate it and I can kill it simply by refusing to support cloture. But then we don't require them to debate. And so this allows them a cheap and easy way of creating a de facto 60 vote threshold for passing legislation. That's not how it's supposed to work. The point is this. If we enforce the cloture rule, we could end cloture abuse and we could end this perpetual tail chasing model in which even when Republicans control the Senate and the House and the White House as we currently do, we just take all sorts of things off the table. We can't accomplish this. We can't accomplish that. Why? Well, because we don't have 60 votes. There are other ways to break through this. You enforce the rules by requiring them to debate and then the minute they stop debating, either because you physically exhausted them or because they have exhausted their right to continue speaking we have a number of rules about that, including you can only speak twice on the same legislative day, on the same discrete legislative matter. If they have exhausted either themselves physically or their right to speak, speak that moment, you can call the vote, and that vote is cast as simple majority threshold, and you can get a lot passed. We haven't been doing that. We need to get back into that business.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's. So you're basically. You know, you've seen these. Senator Cruz did the marathon. You had Cory Booker do these marathons. Is that kind of. What if we change the rules? I have a question about how you would actually change them. But if we actually started enforcing in person, you know, IRL debate on the floor of the Senate, that's what you would basically start seeing is you'd start seeing. Yeah, 50 senators doing marathon debate to try and outlast their opponent, basically.

[Mike Lee]

That's right. That's right. The problem with today's filibuster is that it's not really a filibuster. It's not Jimmy Stewart speaking until he collapses on the Senate floor. So at no point have Democrats this year, while we've held the Senate and the House and the White House, at no point have Democrats been forced to go down to the floor and talk without stopping to defend their terrible policies until they have to go to the bathroom or get some sleep, or until everybody who wants to speak and debate on it have exhausted. Exhausted their ability to do so. That is what most Americans justifiably understand the filibuster to be. And it's not happening because we're not enforcing our own rules.

[Blake Masters]

You know, I'm seeing this could have the beneficial side effect. It might force some earlier retirements by some guys who just say, I. I'm not up.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you'd start having to elect in the primaries, like, based on, like, youth and vigor. Because we need a guy that can actually, like, stand in on the Senate.

[Blake Masters]

Floor to drafting a hockey team. This guy's not quite as based on the policies, but he has great stamina.

[Andrew]

Yeah, great stamina. We. This is what we've done with Supreme Court. It's like, what are they, 37? Yeah. Let's see. That's younger. Yeah, that's. That's interesting. So how would you go about changing the rules? What needs to happen? Could this be Majority Leader Thune? Could he get this done?

[Mike Lee]

Essentially, yes. So that's the beauty of this thing, Andrew, is that no rules change is required. We don't have to do anything to change them because the rules not only already allowed this, the, the rules already contemplate that this is what a filibuster is. So remember, Democrats have been able to use just the mere concept of a talking filibuster to grind things from a halt. And we've allowed them to do that because we haven't enforced it. So, yes, if we adopted this standpoint, the majority leader in, in consultation with whoever is sitting in the presiding officer's chair at the moment decides that he's. That we're going to begin enforcing this. And the minute they're not there to debate, either because they physically don't want to or because they can't, because they've exhausted their right to do so under our existing rules, then you call the question you, meaning you call the vote on that matter. And when there's nobody there debating it, the, the passage, the passage of that legislation. Legislation is set at a simple majority.

[Andrew]

That is a really. I mean, it does strike me, when I saw you tweet this out, Senator, I was like, this is, I mean, you do think of the Senate being the premier legislative body in the world, that you think of all this vigorous debate that happens on the Senate floor, but it's really not like that. It's a bunch of grandstanding for clips, and so you can post them on social, and you can, you know, take cheap shots at your opponents without them answering back. And, and, and then you don't really debate. That's the whole point of cloture, is that you just, you, you stave off actual vigorous debate. And it. Wouldn't the Senate be benefited by this back and forth of, of ideas? I mean, it does, it does strike me that this is. You're sort of getting it back to its original purpose.

[Mike Lee]

No, that's exactly right. Now, I will be clear. There are times when real debate does happen on the Senate floor. Sometimes it's in slow mo motion, but sometimes there is no debate going on at all. Which brings us back to how we would do this. The only real catch here, what's difficult about this, I don't mean to describe this as easy, and I don't mean to suggest that the minute we decided to do this, we could and would immediately pass everything that we wanted without any hitch or without any difficulty. That's not true, but it gives us the opportunity. Opportunity to do that. And I think in many cases we would be able to pass things that we wouldn't otherwise be able to do. But here's the catch. The catch is that Republicans would need, as the Majority party in the Senate would need to show up and spend significant time on the Senate floor. The Republican leadership together. Yeah, right. I mean, but that is what we signed up for. We've often been told as senators, you know, if you. If you don't want to fight hires, don't become a firefighter. And if you don't want to cast difficult votes at inconvenient times, don't become a lawmaker, don't come to the United States Senate.

[Andrew]

If.

[Mike Lee]

If we decided as a conference we're going to do this, there's a lot more that we could accomplish, and we could do it this way without having to change a single rule. It really is the natural fulfillment of what the filibuster is supposed to be right now. Now we don't have real filibusters. We just have chronic cloture abuse. And then we deceive the public into thinking that the reason we can't do some of the things that we want to do is because we don't have 60 votes. Well, it's been over 100 years since Republicans have had 60 votes in the Senate, that 3/5 super majority. And we can't blame it all on the filibuster.

[Andrew]

We can blame it on the 17th. You can blame it on the 17th. But that's. You know, I hadn't even. Yeah, I haven't even thought about that Senator, that we have. It's been over 100 years since we've had 60 Republican senators. A hundred years. I mean, if we think we're ever going. So my big thing, Senator Lee, is that I want immigration reform. That's what I think The. I think it is the switch that you could flip that would solve a ton of our problems. That's me personally. I think there's a lot of energy for that in the base, but we're never gonna get there with this Democrat Party. There's. But here's my concern is that even if we. We got there, we nuked the filibuster, we don't have enough votes, do anything important anyways. So the question is, you know, will Senator Thune. Have you pitched this to Senator Thune? Leader Thune, have you pitched this to the president, to the White House? Is this something that could actually gain momentum and traction and become a thing?

[Mike Lee]

I have pitched it to the president. I've pitched it to Leader Thune. I've pitched it to Senate Republicans. I've pitched it to the White House staff, and I have yet to hear anyone identify a reason why it couldn't work. Sometimes people will point out correctly what the difficulty could be. And the difficulty is exactly what I just described it as, which is that it would require attendance and prolonged attendance at inconvenient hours. But nobody has explained any reason why it wouldn't work. And while there are some difficulties inherent in that, I think we owe that to the American public people. At a time when we've had millions upon millions of people coming into our country illegally over the last four years, at a time when our our laws are making it very difficult, that is be is becoming an obvious in litigation pending now in the District of Columbia over our ability to deport those individuals who came in unlawfully. Given the now huge backlog we have in our immigration courts, we got to have reform in that area. We need permitting reform, we need regulatory reform. We need to pass the the of rest. All these things could benefit from this strategy.

[Andrew]

I think it's brilliant. I think I don't see a good example or a good reason to not do it. As you said. And senators should be pulling long hours. Our US Senators should be pulling very long hours. Senator Mike Lee, a really amazing idea. Thank you for making the time.

[Mike Lee]

Thank you.

[Andrew]

We'll be back.

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[Mike Lee]

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

[Andrew]

The Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We're just, Blake and I, we were imagining all these octogenarians in the Senate just trying to pull all nighters and stand up on their own two feet. I bet they, maybe they pull in, you know, like a, like a chair for some of the oldies. Dick Durbin's 81. Richard Blumenthal is, that's funny, 79 to 80 years old. I guess that's, that's older than I thought. Chuck Grassley's the oldest at 92. Chuck Schumer 75. Elizabeth Warren is 76. And let's see here. Bernie Sanders gotta be like, what, like 80?

[Blake Masters]

Sanders is 84.

[Andrew]

84.

[Blake Masters]

But as you said, Sanders, he kind of comes off like he can still hang. He's an energetic 84.

[Andrew]

So the whole time I was doing that interview with Senator Lee, I was like, Blake's probably sitting here just spinning his, twiddling his thumbs, going, why it won't work. And that, like, bothered me. Me to feel your energy.

[Blake Masters]

I appreciate that the senator wants more real debate in the Senate. It's sort of a funny thing. You can read about these great debates in the United States House and in the United States senate in the 1800s, you have this speech on the Senate floor that's so fiery by Charles Sumner that this guy from South Carolina comes in and beats him over the head with a cane in front of everybody. Because the senators would be there and debate in person and they don't anymore. You get this myth because of C Span that they're doing this, that. But they're not.

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[Blake Masters]

They're. They're just speaking to an empty hall and some yawning tourists.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I think you, you imagine it more like, like, you know, the Oxford Union. Yeah. Where they go back, do that.

[Blake Masters]

They have prime minister's questions, the PM goes in, everyone's there and it's. They still have a tradition.

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I would.

[Blake Masters]

You have the people there to debate.

[Andrew]

I would love to see.

[Blake Masters]

We've lost that. It would be good to restore that. That said, I think this is just a slightly different dress way to nuke the filibuster.

[Andrew]

I mean. Yes. Yeah, it's. It. But I actually do think I was compelled by a return to what it should be, what it was supposed to be. And I actually think Leader Thune should keep, like just totally reform it. So they have to go back and.

[Blake Masters]

Stick to my position. It's worth getting rid of if you have good legislation that you will pass. If you don't, what's the point?

[Andrew]

Yeah, well, immigration is the North Star telling you. Final segment on the first day of Amfest when you. When we get back. We are just about done with the live show. Tomorrow is going to be at the Real America's Voice booth from the floor of Amfest. So join us there. We'll come on right after Bannon's war room. There, there. Which is going to be great. But first I'm going to tell you guys about Hillsdale College, Charlie's favorite college. The only one I really ever heard him speak nicely of. There was others that he actually did that he. That he thought are good. But Hillsdale was, is the, is the. The standard bearer, the beacon of the North. The great works of literature, history, economics. You study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe it's time for an enjoyable referral. Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses, including their newest course on totalitarian novels. In this eight lecture course, which is 100% free, you'll learn from Hillsdale College President, Dr. Larry Arne. The great. I added the great. It's not in the, in the, in the ad, but he is phenomenal as he goes in depth on four novels. 1984, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon, and that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels were written in the 1930s and 40s, they are highly relevant today as they show what a tyrannical government does to human nature. More importantly, they can show us that faith, family, friends and country are worth fighting for. Maybe you read these books long ago in school. Maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem a little intimidating. Let Hillsdale College help you make the most of them. Right now. Go to charlie for hillsdale.com. that's charlie for hillsdale.com to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's C H A R L I e for hillsdale.com. you gotta check it out. They have 40 free online courses, courses that you can access right there. And it's very much worth it. Go ahead and throw up. I don't know if this is this B roll. Is this audio? Anyways, 310. This is from Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action. And he. This is him entering the venue this morning, 3:10. And it's just beautiful presentation. It's got images of Charlie. There's some like, I don't even know, there's. They put decals on the floor and they look like they kind of glow or whatever. So that's just, that's one of the entry points into amfest. And it's, it's. I mean, it's phenomenal. So tonight we're going to have Russell Brand, Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, Erica Kirk is going to welcome us in and more. And then tomorrow, obviously, day two, lots of speakers, tons of breakouts. If you want to check out the agenda, you can go to tpusa.com agenda if you want to see everything that's going on. We're going to have the Thought Crime crew together at 1:30 tomorrow local.

[Blake Masters]

1:30, I think.

[Andrew]

Yeah, 1:30 local, 3:30 eastern. So we're going to be doing that from Expo Hall. We got this big trailer. So Jack, Cliff Maloney, me, Tyler, you. And then we'll probably do some Q and A with the students, which will be really fun. And then we've got a Prove Me Wrong at that same location. Megyn Kelly's doing it, Michael Knowles is doing it. Lots of different folks are going to be doing that. We're capturing all that content, the back and forth with the students. So keeping Charlie's legacy of doing that alive at that at amfest. And I think last year was the first year he actually did a prove me wrong inside the Expo hall. So I think so.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah. I don't think that many people were.

[Andrew]

Trying to prove him wrong on anything. It was fun questions. I was like, you know, which team is better? Sports questions, football questions, ragging on.

[Blake Masters]

What time do we begin the stream today? Because we've had a few questions about that.

[Andrew]

The stream is probably going to start, I believe at around 4:45. So 4:36 30 Eastern. All right. Yeah. Because we've got. Pastor John Amanchukwu is going to start us and then we've got. Yeah, so we've got. So it's updated. Erica Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Russell Brand, Michael Knowles, Tucker Carlson. And then there's a concert tonight with Nate Smith and that is starting probably, I would say we'll probably start the stream at 4:30 and then programming begins at 4:50 and I'll get again, that's local time, so keep it on Eastern. 6:30 begins at 6:45 probably is when the programming begins Eastern. So you're going to check it out and you can get that on rumble.com for streaming if you want to watch it on Real America's Voice. Real America's Voice will also have, have it. And it's going to be a great weekend. It's going to be a phenomenal, phenomenal weekend. And I think to some of the themes we were talking about before Blake, that I, I just think the movement is hungry for a moment where we get to see all these disparate voices, these competing, competing viewpoints come together in one big event that's big enough to hold them all. That's the goal.

[Blake Masters]

Now it's, it's not big enough to hold them all. That's the amazing thing. And that's always what Charlie wanted. He wanted the, you know, the stadium and event we had that. He wanted the event. He wanted to grow so huge. Phoenix itself wasn't big enough.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And we, we, we are going to announce some big news about that for next year, but we're not ready yet. Okay. There's, there's, there's stuff going on behind the scenes about the super bowl halftime show. Actually, I, I said that wrong. The halftime show, the All American, forgive me, that, that is not our branding.

[Blake Masters]

The physically large game.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Halftime show. I, Paul, apologize. And so there's news that, that we'll have there, there's news about next year. And if you want to get tickets and you weren't able to for Amfest this year, go to amfest.com to pre order your tickets for next year with a discount. We will see you tomorrow from the floor of America Fest. Talk to you then.

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