The Charlie Kirk Show, December 2, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – December 2, 2025 (Real America’s Voice)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, airing on December 2, 2025, featured sharp analysis of breaking political and national security news, debates around U.S. military actions against Venezuelan narco-trafficking, controversy over immigration and asylum, partisan battles in Congress, Catholicism under Pope Leo, and health revelations with investigative journalist Alex Berenson. The show was hosted by Andrew Colvitt (executive producer), Blake Neff, with guest appearances from Michael Knowles, Senator Markwayne Mullin, and journalist Alex Berenson. The tone was combative, skeptical of mainstream narratives, and steeped in conservative populism.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. U.S. Narco-Trafficking Strike Controversy (10:27–18:41, 28:53–31:33, 83:28–95:05)

Background:

• Intense scrutiny erupted after a U.S. Navy strike on a suspected Venezuelan narco-boat in September. Initial Washington Post reporting accused Secretary of War Pete Hegseth of directly ordering a possibly illegal “double tap” (striking survivors after initial missile strike).
• The New York Times issued a rebuttal, clarifying the sequence of command and denying Hegseth personally called for a second strike.

Discussion Highlights:

• Panelists dissect media manipulation and political opportunism, accusing Democrats of conducting an orchestrated campaign to delegitimize Hegseth and, more broadly, the Trump administration.
• Michael Knowles argues that Democrats’ relentless attempts to oust Hegseth signals his effectiveness (“If he’s the guy they want to take out, he’s probably the guy I’m going to be defending.” [34:17])
• The tied issues of military discipline, chain of command, and the specter of “color revolution” are repeatedly highlighted. The show asserts Democrats are “seeding the ground” for institutional chaos by encouraging military disobedience in viral videos and exploiting the controversy.

Notable Quotes:

• “It’s a PR op, but it’s also deadly serious... this has all the hallmarks of a color revolution.” — Charlie Kirk [14:38]
• “Telling the military to refuse orders is the controversy. They started it.” — Charlie Kirk [16:19]
• “Why would we allow them to get on our shores and distribute? We lost more Americans to drug overdoses in 2024 than in the entire Vietnam war.” — Sen. Markwayne Mullin [87:01]

Senate/House Response:

• Senator Mullin reassures listeners that congressional hearings are routine oversight (“not to drag Secretary Hegseth up here”—84:25), but panelists and emails from listeners warn GOP leaders not to “self-sabotage” as in the Russiagate era.
• Base-level polling shows strong support (71%) for Trump’s strike policy.

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2. Venezuela, Monroe Doctrine, and Foreign Policy (22:06–27:47, 33:32–43:31)

Summary:

• Discussion pivots to the “big news” of U.S. naval activity near Venezuela and speculation about Trump administration plans to oust Maduro.
• Blake Neff and Michael Knowles debate MAGA foreign policy instincts: skepticism of “regime change” versus American interests in the hemisphere under a “renewed Monroe Doctrine.”
• Panelists cite migration pressure, drug flows, the Venezuela-Cuba axis, and alleged election fraud as factors justifying U.S. assertiveness—but remain wary of sparking humanitarian crises or destabilizing the region.

Notable Quotes:

• “The ideal scenario is you completely destroy the narco-terrorists... take a hostile dictator and replace them with someone who’s maybe a little friendlier to us.”—Michael Knowles [36:16]
• “Do we have a serious plan in place to replace Maduro if they actually want regime change?”—Michael Knowles [37:41]
• “This is our hemisphere.” —Michael Knowles [38:16]
• “Are we going to spark another humanitarian disaster?” —Charlie Kirk [39:25]

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3. Immigration & Third World Migration Debate (43:31–45:22, 45:22–47:55)

Summary:

• Kristi Noem, Pam Bondi, and President Trump push hard on stopping "third world migration," with panelists predicting this will eclipse even the wall or border issues as the administration’s most popular policy.
• Discussion touches on differential assimilation of immigrant groups (Cubans vs. others), and the right of Americans to limit immigration to maintain cultural cohesion.

Notable Quotes:

• “It’s the thing that we all feel and think and see, but we’re not allowed to say it out loud.” —Charlie Kirk [43:31]
• “What do Somalis add to America? ...we have the right to say no thanks.” —Michael Knowles [42:34]

Policy/Partisan Notes:

• Polling referenced by guest Rich Baris suggests overwhelming approval for restrictive immigration policies among Trump’s base, despite elite and corporate resistance.

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4. Catholic Church Under Pope Leo (49:20–53:25)

Summary:

• Six months into Pope Leo’s papacy (the first American Pope), Michael Knowles and the panel assess his impact.
• There’s relief at a “more conservative” direction, but ongoing friction over migration rhetoric and residual issues from Francis’ era.

Notable Quotes:

• “Compared to the last pontificate, I think a lot of people are breathing not just a sigh of relief, but a sigh of joy.”—Michael Knowles [50:10]
• “For people who want to have a problem...they’re always going to find something, but broadly speaking Pope Leo defenders have been quite vindicated.” —Michael Knowles [52:40]

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5. Vaccine Trial Scandal & Parental Trust with Alex Berenson (60:59–78:31)

Summary:

• Investigative journalist Alex Berenson covers bombshell revelations: a child died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial, and the incident was quietly disclosed only to European regulators.
• The FDA, under new Trump/RFK Jr. leadership, is dramatically reversing prior policies and reviewing child vaccine safety.

Key Points:

• The case of a 2–5-year-old child’s death by cardiorespiratory arrest after vaccination was allegedly underreported and ignored by U.S. media and regulators.
• Berenson emphasizes the extraordinarily low risk COVID posed to healthy children, lack of observed efficacy in the trial data, and higher side effects in vaccinated children.

Notable Quotes:

• “No kid should have been vaccinated with this. The European countries by 2022 were much stricter... But the vaccine fanatics in this country wouldn’t let this go.” —Alex Berenson [63:33]
• “Getting these mRNA COVID shots off the market for kids is the first step.” —Alex Berenson [77:54]
• “If we’re willing to say no to certain vaccines and yes to others, that’s going to inspire a lot more trust.” —Charlie Kirk [77:54]

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6. Listener Feedback & Political Ground Game (102:21–106:35)

Summary:

• Listeners chime in with support for drug boat strikes and Secretary Hegseth; skepticism on vaccine side effects.
• Strategic worries about Senate composition and the filibuster, referencing past missed opportunities as cautionary tales.
• Encouragement for Tennessee-7 special election: “Vote, vote, vote. Fight, fight, fight. Win it for Charlie.” —Charlie Kirk [106:11]

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “It’s a PR op... it’s deadly serious... all the hallmarks of a color revolution.” —Charlie Kirk [14:38]
• “If he’s the guy they want to take out, he’s probably the guy I’m going to be defending.” —Michael Knowles [34:17]
• “Telling the military to refuse orders is the controversy. They started it.” —Charlie Kirk [16:19]
• “What do Somalis add to America?... We have an obligation to our own citizens.” —Michael Knowles [42:34]
• “Getting these mRNA COVID shots off the market for kids is the first step.” —Alex Berenson [77:54]

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Key Takeaways

• National Security: The Biden-era vetting failures were harshly criticized, while the Trump administration’s policies, particularly the strike on Venezuelan narco boats, were forcefully defended. Panelists warn of a coordinated “color revolution” attempt by Democrats using military discipline and war crime accusations as pressure points.
• Immigration & Foreign Policy: The show draws a connection between foreign intervention (especially in the Western Hemisphere), immigration pressures, and the limits of U.S. nation-building. The Monroe Doctrine is discussed as a framework for justifying intervention close to home.
• Catholicism: Pope Leo’s more conservative American papacy is cautiously embraced, seen as a relief from Francis-era worries.
• Vaccines & Parental Rights: New revelations of possible vaccine trial cover-ups ignite calls for skepticism and parental autonomy in healthcare decisions, bolstered by expected reforms at the FDA under Trump and RFK Jr.
• Political Strategy: The base is warned not to let the GOP leadership repeat past mistakes by falling for Democrat investigative ploys, risking internal sabotage that could derail conservative priorities.

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Conclusion

This episode was a microcosm of the Trump-era, America First conservative movement: hyper-vigilant about institutional betrayal, media manipulation, and globalist encroachment; fiercely defensive of muscular foreign policy when narrowly defined as hemisphere security; increasingly hostile to uncontrolled immigration; and deeply skeptical of the medical-industrial complex. Through all, the show maintained a populist, combative, forthright tone—serving as both news digest and rallying command post for the Real America’s Voice audience.

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[Pete Hegseth]

We have paused all asylum adjudications and then of course the special immigrant visas, which we know many Afghans utilize to come into the country under the Biden administration have also now been paused. It's incredibly important for viewers to know.

[Kristi Noem]

What the prior administration was doing when it comes to vetting, especially when it came to this operation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Allies welcomed this. Vetting was paper thin. They weren't doing biometric vetting.

[Pete Hegseth]

They weren't really doing criminal vetting, criminal screening, cyber screening, financial crimes. They weren't cross referencing, they weren't looking at social media.

[Kristi Noem]

So President Trump and Secretary Noem have.

[Pete Hegseth]

Completely overhauled this process to make sure we're diving in deep and seeing who are the people who are actually entering this country.

[Alex Berenson]

I know for a fact bodies, Afghanistan's the ones that landed here in Dulles airport came with no documentation on not even, not even an ID and nothing from their homeland.

[Charlie Kirk]

And if we're going to try to.

[Terrence Bates]

Find those documents, which they really don't exist, you're going to take them from the Taliban.

[Alex Berenson]

You're going to make Taliban is going.

[Terrence Bates]

To give us the intelligence information we.

[Alex Berenson]

Need to vet these people. It's ridiculous. They weren't properly vetted.

[Terrence Bates]

The Inspector General, DoD and DHS said.

[Alex Berenson]

It several times, Joe Biden lied to American people. Along with Alejandro Mayorkas.

[Pete Hegseth]

Secretary Noem announced tonight she's recommending that travel ban widens and covers more countries around the globe. Special immigrant visas, which we know many Afghans have used to come into our country. There has been a complete suspension and pause on all of those. I would just remind people around the world that coming to the United States of America is a privilege. It is not a right. And if you abuse that privilege and if you don't align with the values of the United States and you don't respect our country, our culture, our laws and our people, you are not welcome here.

[Alex Berenson]

Petegseth needs to resign.

[Charlie Kirk]

And if he doesn't resign, Donald Trump needs to fire him. He is a walking, talking national security embarrassment.

[Alex Berenson]

He seems more interested in winning video.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pull up contests than he does in protecting this nation.

[Alex Berenson]

He's obsessed with the weight of his soldiers, the facial hair of his soldiers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Not concerned with actually keeping the country safe.

[Alex Berenson]

He's putting out on the Internet turtles with rocket propelled grenades. I mean, have you seen this? This is the Secretary of Defense. This is not a serious person. He should have been fired. After signal gave.

[Pete Hegseth]

President Trump and Secretary Hegseth have made it clear that presidentially designated narco terrorist groups are subject to lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war. With respect to the strikes in question, on September 2, Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes. Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated. The President has a right to take them out if they are threatening the United States of America.

[Alex Berenson]

Elected Democrats have been saying it's okay to disobey orders.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's the first step.

[Alex Berenson]

But what we saw happen this weekend.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Through some of those same elected officials was to say basically to military men.

[Terrence Bates]

And women, look out, you might get prosecuted.

[Blake Neff]

We released a video with a simple.

[Alex Berenson]

Message to service members that they must refuse illegal orders. Nothing was controversial about that. The President of the United states said that two U.S. senators and four members of the House of Representatives should be arrested, hanged, executed for something. We said President Trump is trying to silence me, threatening to kill me.

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This is not the language of we'll beat them in the next election or.

[Charlie Kirk]

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This is the language of a color.

[Charlie Kirk]

Revolution, or where you're calling on military.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Men and women to disobey orders.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Democrats have completely lost the plot.

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Here, and the American people, I think, see that.

[Charlie Kirk]

But it's a very dangerous road to.

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Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie crowd. Welcome to the Kirk Show. It is Tuesday, December 2nd. Joined here in studio by Blake Neff. I am Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show. Lots of news this morning. There was a big Pentagon briefing which I think made more news because of who was covering it. Our friend Jack Posobek was in the room, James o', Keefe, many others because of the new media, I guess, guidelines where the legacy media self deported themselves from the Pentagon. So there was a briefing this morning. Jack Posoba notably asked if they were considering a court martial for Senator Mark Kelly. The answer was everything is on the table. And that is sort of linked to some of the main coverage that we're gonna get into here this morning. There is news that there is a. Well, it's about 10 days old. USS Ford has been in the waters in the Caribbean outside of Venezuela. There is concern, I think, in Maduro's inner circle that the US Is about to potentially oust him from power within Venezuela. Meanwhile, you have the Venezuelan cartel narco trafficking boats that have caused a huge controversy, namely with Pete Hegseth. It seems as if, Blake, that there is a growing, I would say, op but they are coordinating their efforts. Democrats are to hopefully get rid of Pete Hegseth and their hope, not my hope to get rid of Pete Hegseth. I think that effort will fail. But describe this dynamic of what's going on right now with Pete Hegset.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, what's interesting is, so we discussed this yesterday, what, what happened is there in September. This was reported by the Washington Post that in September they, you know, they've been doing these strikes on drug boats coming from Latin America towards the United States, I should say alleged gunboats or drug boats. And that in September they identified one of these. They told Hegseth about it because he. He's the one who has to approve strikes. And that according to the Washington Post, he not merely approved a strike, but said basically kill them all in some way. And so they struck the boat. It sinks and breaks apart. But when they're observing it afterwards, they see that some people on the boat are alive and clinging to wreckage. And rather than leave them there or rescue them and arrest them or whatever you would do they drop another strike on them.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And we have image 208 here. This is from the New York Times. So that original story, the double tap story that they're alleging is a war cr. It was reported by the Washington Post. Now the New York Times has issued a follow up reporting that reads that basically is a giant rebuttal to it. New York Times Sundays, according to five U.S. officials who spoke separately and on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters that are under investigation, Mr. Hegseth, head of the September two attack, ordered a strike that would kill the people on the boat and destroy the vessel and its purported cargo of drugs. But each official said Mr. Hegseth directive did not specifically address what should happen if a first missile turned out not to fully accomplish all of those things. And the officials said his order was not a response to surveillance footage showing that at least two people on the boat survived the first blast. Admiral Bradley, the other character in this saga, ordered the initial missile strike and then several follow up strikes that killed the initial survivors and sank the disabled boat. And as that operation unfolded, they said Mr. Hegseth did not give any further orders to him. So this is a direct rebuttal that to the original story which suggested that Pete Hegseth was sort of in the room pulling the levers, ordering the strikes. A follow up double tap, as you call it, to kill survivors. Now the New York Times is saying there was an initial directive that it should be a lethal strike. And then Admiral Bradley was the one who was actually directing those. Now Pete Hegseth has come out and said Admiral Bradley has 100% of his support, that he stands by him, that America's lucky to have somebody of his stature and ability in the position that he's in. But this is all part of a broader effort by Democrats to now go after people.

[Andrew Colvitt]

What's interesting here is what some have speculated on. And I don't know if we'll learn more about this, but what's really crazy is this all happened just in the days after we had that very strange video. They drop where they're sort of implying you might get illegal orders, not saying anything in particular. And they're very evasive when they're confronted about it. They are going on TV and saying, you know, I don't, I don't know of any specific illegal orders. But, you know, we're just, you know, hypothetically, if, hypothetically anything were to occur and they're taking that pose and suddenly this drops. And these people in this US Senators are not lawmakers are not unaware of what is going on. They have contacts with reporters, especially friendly reporters. And one of them, Slotkin, like a CIA veteran and such. And so they, it seems very possible they may have known this story was coming and they were essentially, it was all a process to seed this story, to talk about, oh, illegal orders, you know, possibly coming up. And then bam, here's this Washington Post story saying there's illegal orders. And now they've got their preferred framing. And you know, you could say this is an attempt to bring down Hegseth, but it's much more than that. It's an attempt to bring down the administration because they don't want Hegseth scalp here and just, oh, you slot in a new guy what they want. They actually want that whole defy orders thing. They want to delegitimize and break down the apparatus of government for this administration. Because if they can't, you know, if the National Guard just starts defying the president, that you're at a constitutional crisis point where the administration can crumble.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and it's important to note, first of all, I completely agree. I believe this was coordinated. This isn't orchestrated op and it's a PR op. It's also deadly serious because we'll play this clip in just a bit. But you know, Senator Eric Schmidt is basically saying that this has all the hallmark, hallmarks of a color revolution, of seeding the ground for that. And then what was interesting as this story has played out is I kept expecting, because they got caught with egg on their face, they've admitted that they're not alleging anything has been illegal thus far necessarily. But then they will allude to these drug boat strikes. Right? So then I kept watching and expecting them to fall back and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And Mark Kelly and Slotkin and some of the others have gone on a full tour of pr. I mean, they're hitting cnn, msnbc, writing op eds, doing social media videos. And that was, I think the tell is that they keep diving in, drilling the story deeper and deeper and deeper. And then you have Mark Kelly yesterday, who gives a whole press conference which was just wild. He alleges that Trump was trying, has threatened to kill him, but then when pressed, was forced to admit that, you know, he wasn't actually speaking about any specific thing 192.

[Alex Berenson]

Who this president is and who the Secretary of Defense is, is. And specifically things that the president has said in the past and things he.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was.

[Alex Berenson]

Talking about doing in the future. So we were looking forward to try to head Something off at the pass that could have been really, really bad. So it wasn't about this specific thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

It wasn't about this specific thing. And I just want to make one other point really clear. And I. I tweeted about this yesterday. No one threatened to kill Senator Mark Kelly. Telling the military to refuse orders is the controversy. They started it. Mark Kelly and Elisa Slotkin and all the. They are the ones that started it with their insane video. What the President was doing was simply pointing out the seriousness of seditious behavior. He was pointing to the fact that, yeah, if you are guilty of these things, one of the punishments is the death penalty. That's just a fact. And the White House even later confirmed that President Trump was not calling for him to be killed. He was pointing out that this was a serious offense. Mark Kelly has spent years in uniform. He knows full well that calling mass refusal of military orders is illegal.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It reminds me of at the start of the first Trump administration, where it would be something and they would just. There was like, you know, the Trump administration, like when Flynn was possibly, you know, possibly, you know, talks to the Russian ambassador, and they're like, oh, well, he. He may be implied, a diplomatic concession here. My gosh, the Logan Act. The Logan act that carries infinity years in prison in the maximum penalty.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, exactly.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We'll do this. The press does this all the time. Someone gets charged with something with a maximum of 800 years.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And then they get like an administrative, you know, slap on the wrist or something. But this is what drives me nuts, is he is playing the victim. And why? Simply because the chain of command is being reasserted by those who are actually in charge, those who actually have power, namely Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and the President of the United States, the Commander in Chief. So there's a lot going on here, and there's a broader conversation that I want to get to that I think is actually happening, and that is a reassertion of the Monroe Doctrine. Blake. But we'll see. We'll see if you agree with me. But first, I want to tell you guys about our good friends over at Legacy Box. I don't have the read here, but that's okay. You'll just have to take my word for it. The good folks over at Legacy Box are amazing. They help you retain your memories, your family's film reels, your tapes, all of those things. I don't have the. I don't have the actual read here, so we're just gonna have to.

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[Andrew Colvitt]

I certainly don't think Charlie would be enthusiastic about that. I think we've had, we've been through this pattern. I do, I will admit I suspect toppling Venezuela would be not as bad as toppling Libya or Afghanistan.

[Charlie Kirk]

Libel.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Latin Americans don't have quite the same history as Middle Easterners of doing insane terrorism, suicide terrorism, you know, for the nihilistic love of it. They don't have radical Islam. All of those are in play. There's more of a legit opposition movement in Venezuela. All of those things I think would make it easier and less damaging. But I think at the same time we've just seen this bill of goods before of it'll be really easy. In and out, in and out. In five minutes. It'll be really cheap, really easy. And how often has that really played out? Even in wars we've won, it hasn't necessarily played out the way we expected.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, and you've gotta imagine that there has been behind the scenes discussions. We know for a fact that President Trump and Nicolas Maduro have spoken. Maduro being the dictator of Venezuela. And the interesting part here is you've got Maria Corina Machado, who's the opposition leader now. Remember when she was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, she dedicated it to President Trump.

[Andrew Colvitt]

She certainly knows, she certainly knows how to make a sell.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So you have to imagine that there was optics involved there, there was a strategy involved from her perspective. Now, a lot of international watchdogs suggest that she actually won the election and that Nicolas Maduro stole it, which does seem to be true. And so you do kind of wonder, are there underlying realities on the ground in Venezuela that would sort of seem to your point, that would seem to suggest that if Maduro was taken out of power, that there would be a nucleus of power and influence within that country that could assume power in a more constructive way. Now here's the thing. I mean, I totally agree with you. I think Charlie would be against this because listen, we have domestic issues that we need to need to address head on. Now here's the argument for this. Now I think that the admin is playing a little bit of 3D chess. I do, and I don't mean to, I know that we use that expression and it's cliche, but I do think that under the President, President Trump's administration, we have seen a reassertion of the Monroe Doctrine, right. This, this Western hemisphere centric foreign policy where, hey, we're going to, we're going to take back control the Panama Canal, we're going to strike key alliances with people like Bukele in El Salvador, we're going to reassert dominance within South America. Right. Our Malay friendship that we've struck up the leader of Argentina. So you do sort of see the makings of this. Now the other piece I will say is that Venezuela and Cuba work hand in hand. You see this, the fact that Cuban guards are now part of the private security detail for Nicolas Maduro, you see it with the sharing of intelligence. Now people don't know this, but the Cuban intelligence is one of the most formidable in the world. Basically, they have no exports, they have no goods besides, you know, cigars. They used to have sugar A crazy thing.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Something like 20 of Cuba's population has apparently left since about 2019.

[Blake Neff]

Really there.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It's a, it's a really messed up country. More so than people realize.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think you're right. And, and, but one of their exports that they sell to places like Venezuela is intelligence. So they've, they've infiltrated in a lot of places within the lower 48. They know stuff that Venezuela wants to pay for. Right. And other places. So that's another piece. A dynamic here is that if you, if you do topple Venezuela, if you do, if you Maduro and you put in this Maria Karina Machado, you get two regime changes. Two regime changes which probably will not blow up in our faces at all because we've learned our lesson. I just, I actually kind of don't think that that's what they're going for. I think President Trump is trying to do the carrot and stick. He's, he's saber rattling to get Nicholas Maduro to leave on his own.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I liked the idea of just give him $500 million and he can go live wherever. And what stinks is we'd be, have more credibility on that if we'd stuck to our guns with Gaddafi instead.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah. There's a, we're not a trustworthy actress in the past. It's, there's a reason not to trust our, our, our foreign policy promises. We're gonna have Michael Knowles join us next. Help make sense, sense of all of this and more. Don't go anywhere.

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump meeting with his cabinet at the White House today. Today's meeting, by the way, comes on the heels of an Oval Office get together with various Cabinet members and other national security leaders yesterday to discuss future actions related to Venezuela. The Commander in Chief will wrap up his busy day with an announcement about Trump accounts. Those accounts are new tax advantaged savings and investment accounts slated to benefit America's children. They were established through the passage of the President's one big beautiful bill. Stay tuned to Real America's Voice for live coverage of the various events happening at the White House throughout the day. The Navy admiral who gave the order for a follow up strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean back in September is scheduled to brief members of the House and the Senate Armed Services Committees on the attack this coming Thursday. At issue are concerns about potential war crimes because there were reportedly survivors of the initial strike and the second strike was supposedly ordered to kill any remaining people on the vessel, which if accurate, could be illegal. Both Democrats and Republicans are raising concerns about how the strike was carried out. In the meantime, the White House claims the second strike was in self defense. In accordance with laws governing armed conflict.

[Pete Hegseth]

Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes. Admiral Bradley Bradley worked well within his authority and the law directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated.

[Terrence Bates]

Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi is promising a thorough investigation of the matter. Senator Wicker is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He points out that the ramifications of the report on the attack. Attack on the attack are, quote, serious charges. The Trump administration is facing another legal setback of sorts as a federal appeals court has ruled that Trump appointed acting U.S. attorney for the State of New Jersey, Alina Habba was illegally given that job. As a result, Haba is disqualified from supervising cases. She served as President Trump's personal lawyer leading up to his reelection. There is still no comment from the White House or the Justice Department on Monday's ruling.

[Blake Neff]

We will not comply.

[Alex Berenson]

You're listening to the sound of freedom.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's the Charlie Kirk show. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. About to welcome Michael Knowles onto the show. President Trump's Cabinet continues on. He's trying to explain how to say Pete Boot, Edge Edge's name, which is always a fun anecdote. But first I'm going to tell you guys about Patriot Mobile. Think about it. Every dollar you spend is either supporting your values or working against them. In today's economy, where you spend your money matters. That's how we Take our country back. Patriot Mobile is leading the way as America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. Switch today without sacrificing quality or service. You'll get exceptional nationwide coverage. Because unlike most budget wireless provider, Patriot Mobile has access to all three major US Networks. You can even add two numbers on one phone, which is what I do. Something the big guys can't even do. So stay connected with flexible, unlimited data plans to fit your lifestyle. These are offer high speed mobile hotspots, international roaming, device protection, and even Internet backup. And here's the best part. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you'll support faith, family, and freedom. If you believe in our first and second amendment rights, the sanctity of life, and supporting veteran veterans, this is where you belong. So right now, go to patriotmobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot to get a free month of service with promo code Charlie. That's patriotmobile.com Charlie. Use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. Make the switch today. Michael Knowles, host of the Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show, my friend. Good to see you.

[Blake Neff]

What's going on, man? Good to be here.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm not gonna ask you about Catholicism.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I think we should.

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[Andrew Colvitt]

The Pope after six months.

[Blake Neff]

That'd be fun to ask me about on text.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

You ever want to talk about.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's all I want to talk about. No, we could. Okay. Blake's gonna ask you to grade the Pope in in just a few minutes. Here he's been carrying baseball bats on planes. There was an iceball fiasco. Party. There was an ice ball fiasco.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, but Knowles, first question. Okay, so this is actually where we're gonna start. And I want you to sort of make sense of our political moment that we find ourselves in. There is all this consternation about Venezuela, about Pete Hegseth, and, you know, were these war crimes? Was there a double tap? The New York Times seems to suggest it's not. It does have this feeling of a. Of a messaging op, sort of. They roll out this. This suspicious video. The seditious six is there as they're. As they're being labeled. And then all of a sudden, we get this whole inquiry into the Venezuelan cartel, narco trafficking, you know, strikes. What do you make of this moment? Why are they so fixated on Pete Hegseth?

[Blake Neff]

They've been going after Pete Hegseth since before the guy was confirmed. I mean, let's not forget this. You know, a lot of us know Pete, not just people who are friends with Pete, but who have watched Pete every morning on Fox News. And you know, he's been a public figure for a long time and than any other member of this Cabinet, the Democrats seemed absolutely devoted to torpedoing him before he came in as Secretary of War. And so to me, if I didn't know anything else about Venezuela, Iran, anything about the military, if all I knew is that this guy was the chief target in the Cabinet for the Democrats, I would be defending him wholeheartedly. Now on top of that, you've had a very, very effective military strategy under Trump. Recruitment way up, getting a lot of the woke out in terms of the policy of the military itself. Then obviously very, very successful military operations in the Middle East. Now we're looking at operations in Latin America. So I think he's doing a very good job generally. But I just take it simply on a rule of thumb. If he's the guy they want to take out, he's probably the guy I'm going to be defending.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's exactly been my posture as well. It's like we must be over, over the mark here with, with Secretary Hegseth because they want to get him out so badly. But this is part of this larger. There's two basically at this point we diverge in a wood, right? There's two main through lines narratives that are going on right now. There is this we had the National Guard attack, the ambush by an Afghan refugee and that brings up this whole foreign policy conversation in and of itself. But then meanwhile, there's all this intrigue around Venezuela. Are we going to strike? Are we going to, you know, we're moving carriers into the region. And MAGA in the base typically has been postured in a way that says we don't want to get involved in any more foreign entanglements. We don't want blood and death overseas. We want to focus domestically. What would you like to see play out in the next days and weeks ahead when it comes to Venezuela specifically? And then we'll get into our own immigration debate that we're also having.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I love the way you put it, Andrew, because it's kind of a confounding issue for maga. If the question were about some never ending regime change, war in the Middle east or Africa or something, I think MAGA would be unified. Say we don't want that at all. However, this is a little different because this is much closer to home. The Monroe Doctrine, which says America runs the Western Hemisphere, has been our official policy since 1823. This involves a direct threat to Americans, which is all the drugs that are coming largely from Venezuela and specifically to foreign terrorist organizations that are associated with the regime, kills over 75,000Americans a year. It also involves hard resources. One of the funniest things about President Trump's foreign policy is how open he is. He says, you know, we didn't go to war for oil in Iraq, but we at least should have gotten the oil. You know, natural resources really do matter, and, you know, this is our hemisphere. So I think it's a little dicier on what Americans are thinking about it. Look, the ideal scenario is you completely destroy the narco terrorists, you wage a real war on drugs, meaning you blow up all the guys who are smuggling the drugs in and killing American kids. You take a hostile dictator who is partnering up with a lot of our enemies, and you replace them with someone who's maybe a little friendlier to us, and maybe that also helps the energy market, too. That's what everyone wants in the ideal. The question is, can they pull this kind of thing off? I think they're gonna get a lot more grace from the base in terms of actions in Latin America. The only question is, does the military, CIA, whatever the U.S. government, do we have a serious plan in place to replace Maduro if they actually want regime change? Because there's two views of the CIA. One is James Bond, Jason Bourne, you know, they control everything. They're super efficient. The other one is burn after reading, like everything the CIA tries to do turns to ash and gets worse. And those are. That's the debate right now. What is really going on here? All I will say on this, I favor a much more restrained foreign policy that is much closer to home, that involves much more direct American interests. All I will say with Trump is he has the most effective foreign policy of my lifetime, probably including George H.W.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Bush.

[Blake Neff]

And so I'm willing to give the guy a little bit more grace here because he just hasn't bungled it all up like Clinton did, like George W. Bush did, and certainly like Obama and Biden did.

[Andrew Colvitt]

What strikes me as another factor in this is, well, we've had a lot of people come from Venezuela that drove a lot of the migration pressure in all the way back to Obama's administration into the first, Trump into Biden. And I think defenders of this would justify this, that if we topple this regime, it actually might help our migration issue. A lot of Venezuelans might go home, if you're correct, and it took down Cuba as well. Some Cubans might go Home. Although Cubans have mostly integrated.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Great.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But I feel like a lot of our other interventions have done the exact opposite. 20 years in Afghanistan, we have to fight them over there. So we don't fight them over here. And in fact, we are fighting them two blocks from the White House now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And it strikes me as a reasonable worry. Do does another intervention in Latin America somehow have this side effect where we just have illegal immigrants massing at the border again?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's a. That's the key of worry that I have, actually. Are we going to spark another humanitarian disaster where we see massive flows of migrants from South America and Cuba specifically? A lot of people look at Cuba and Venezuela together. There's a New York Times story this morning, Michael, that suggests that Maduro now has augmented his private security detail with a bunch of Cubans, Cuban soldiers that have come in, perhaps because he doesn't trust his own Venezuelans to have his back. But there is a very direct connection between Venezuela and Cuba. They are basically, you know, conjoined at the hip here. And so the question is, would we get a mass exodus of people from this region? I tend to not think so. I do tend to think that a lot of that migration has already happened. And we also have President Trump in office. Who's going to block a lot of it? We're not. You know, if we had a Democrat in the White House, we would see a lot more of that. The question is, does it meet the standard that Knowles is talking about of the Monroe Doctrine? Is it close enough to home? Will the base react to it? Will they reject it? That's, I think, namely, we have a political.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I'll remind you the Monroe Doctrine was not just we dominate every country in Western hemisphere. It was keeping foreign Europeans at the time. Imagine you could count Chinese today.

[Blake Neff]

And Russia.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Russia, of course, out of the hemisphere, not influencing it.

[Blake Neff]

And.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, you saw this in Panama, right? The Panama Canal. President Trump goes in and reasserts US Dominance over the canal, which was being taken over by China, actually. And so we were getting treated very poorly in the canal. So let's switch our attention here, Michael. We're kind of doing hopscotch here on topics, but the other main story is the president. And now Kristi Noem, Pam Bondi coming down hard on third world migration. Now, I made a prediction that this was going to be President Trump's most popular policy plank yet. And I mean, including the wall, including the southern border. And we had Rich Barris on yesterday, who seems he's Doing polling on this, and the initial results seem to indicate that this is, in fact, very, very appealing with the base. So you've got these confluence of two different stories. Foreign policy, which is always a snake pit full of vipers, full of surprises, full of backlash for the president and the administration, and you've got his hardline immigration stance. Can these two coexist? Will the base be able to make sense of it? Yeah, I think so.

[Blake Neff]

Obviously, it's going to be very popular because this issue has two things that really combine to make a great winning political issue. It's something that everyone agrees on and something that everyone feels like they can't say. Everyone thinks that immigration, that you have to be for all of it or against all of it, or make no distinctions whatsoever. And obviously that's ridiculous. You mentioned the Cubans earlier. Cubans tend to assimilate. They're quite patriotic. They play baseball, they vote Republican. You know, when we're talking about Latin American immigration, the Cubans, they're all right. I like the Cubans. Okay. Other immigrant groups, less so. In America, we used to severely restrict immigration and we would have some immigration from, I don't know, say, England. Then we started taking German migrants in the 19th century, and, you know, it was a little harder to assimilate German migrants, but it was okay. Then we took some of the swarthy Italians from, you know, North Africa, basically. Basically worked out other than the Pelosi's of the world, but it was a little harder still to assimilate them. Now you look at third world immigration, post 1965, Hart Celler, and you have to ask yourself, what do Somalis add to America? And that's the. That's the naughty question that nobody wants to ask, but it's a very serious question because the point of immigration is to make our country better. And if people are unassemblable, radically different cultures, different religions, different habits, different everything, I think we have the right to say, no, thanks. We have an obligation to our own citizens. Everyone knows this. Everyone feels like they can't say it. And so if Trump is the one who's gonna finally articulate it, it's gonna be a winner.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I think you're right. I think that point you made about, it's the thing that we all feel and think and see, but we're not allowed to say it out loud. I mean, we say it out loud on this show all the time, and you probably do as well. But, like, for normie Americans, this is sort of like, you know, it's uncouth. It's not polite to say these things out loud, but we have to get courage. We have to get a backbone, start standing up for what we all know to be true. We want to live in an America that feels like America again, that feels like the country that we grew up in. And it simply more and more does not. And there's a reason for that. It's because we have had a completely catastrophic immigration platform for years. More with Michael Knowles when we get back. We're going to talk about Catholicism. All right, we'll do it. We'll do it just for blame. We'll be right back.

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[Kristi Noem]

Better than anyone in the country. When a government politicizes and weaponizes their power to go after average everyday Americans. Well, from you, the top of the of the heap as president, but all the way down to the ranchers in South Dakota, the Maude family, who were facing jail time over a fence line dispute that had been in their family for 130 years, we fixed that. The family, the Henry family in New Jersey who are facing their farm being taken away for imminent domain to give to affordable housing, we fixed that. So being able to completely change the trajectory of private property rights, but especially as it has to do with our farmers and ranchers in our rural communities, changes everything for our country. And then the third thing, we have so much great things to talk about at usda. But the third thing, which became very much a part of the national conversation during the Democrat shutdown, was SNAP reform, food stamp reform, when all of America saw what so many of us know and have been working on. But when you have so much rampant fraud in a program that 42 million Americans participate in. Now, big good piece of news that I hope is written about since you became president. About 800,000 of those 42 million have moved off of food stamps, which is hopefully the plan with better jobs, higher wages, et cetera. But still, when we found 186,000 dead people or dead people, Social Security numbers being used, 500,000 people receiving benefits more than twice we had a couple of people receiving benefits in six states in February of this year. We asked for all the states for the first time time to turn over their data to the federal government to let the USDA partner with them to root out this fraud to make sure that those who really need food stamps are getting them, but also to ensure that the American taxpayer is protected. 21 states said yes. Not surprised. 29 states said yes. Not surprisingly, the red states, and that's where all of that data, that fraud comes from. But 21 states, including California, New York and Michigan, Minnesota, the blue states, continue to say no. So as of next week, we have begun and will begin to stop moving federal funds into those states until they comply and they tell us and allow us to partner with them to root out this fraud and to protect the American taxpayer.

[Donald Trump]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Michael Knowles is with us. Who is, I believe you. You hail from the state of Tennessee, Michael. Now these days. Got it. I would be remiss if I didn't mention Tennessee seventh, the special election today which is Matt Van Epps, the Republican going running against Afton Ben, who's basically a raging communist feminist like unhinged lady. Actually, it seems like we had. So get out and vote. If you find yourselves in Michael Knowles area of the world, please, please, please vote. I don't know if you want to add anything to that, Knowles, but the floor is yours.

[Blake Neff]

I do. I do. One, to reiterate, you got to go out and vote. This woman has her ads blasted everywhere. She's run a pretty good campaign. She is cartoonishly on a platform of hating Nashville and the people in it and like everything that makes America great and she might win. It is a complete dead heat race right now. The margin of error is 4 points and it's a 2 point race. This should not be a 2 point race. If things go south here, not only will it be bad for this district around Nashville, this could mean a bloodbath in the midterms. Go out there, vote. Vote early. Vote often. You know what to do.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know what to do. Get out there and vote. Help save the Republic. Blake, you're Catholic. Michael's Catholic. I'm not. I'm going to let you guys take this one.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, I guess I was. I was thinking.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

We were.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We thought. It's been about six months since we got Pope Leo, the first American Pope. And I feel, overall, we don't hear as much about that as I would have initially thought. I would have thought that there would be a lot more attention on him. And yet it seems, if anything, he's less famous than Pope Francis, even in the United States. He has popped up a few times. He's been. He's certainly said stuff we find annoying on some of the migration, immigration issues. He's occasionally had some friction with Vice President Vance, of course, since the Vice President is Catholic as well. But, yeah, I guess I would throw that to you. Michael, how do you evaluate the Pope at about six months? And what's his relationship with American Catholics, who are mostly on the right politically on immigration and a lot of issues?

[Blake Neff]

I was thrilled when I heard the name that he picked. He picked Leo. I was pulling for Leo. I actually predicted it right before they picked it. And I didn't know anything about the guy, but I really liked the name. I thought it was a good sign. Pope Leo xiii, Popleo the Great. This is good stuff. And I think he's lived up to a lot of our hopes. Obviously, there's always something to complain about. I love the traditional Latin Mass. I wish the bishops would stop suppressing the Latin Mass. You know, I hope that happens. But compared to the last pontificate, I think a lot of people are breathing not just a sigh of relief, but a sigh of joy. And then I don't know if you guys caught it, you know, over. Just a few days ago, the Pope was in Constantinople, leading the Eastern Orthodox in the Our Father in Latin, praying for full communion for all baptized Christians, wanting to heal the Eastern and the west, bring everybody back together. He toured a mosque, refused to pray in the mosque. Unlike some other popes.

[Andrew Colvitt]

John Paul Villa, completely vindicated. I think John Paul II even prayed in a mosque. He was the first one to do so.

[Charlie Kirk]

And that's weird.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I have to imagine Francis probably would have also prayed. And I think they were in the Blue Mosque in.

[Charlie Kirk]

What's the deal with this, this ice ball? What was this about the ice ball?

[Blake Neff]

You know, people made a big deal about it. I agree. You know, it's kind of silly for people to focus on climate change or whatever. Now, I will point out there's nothing unusual about a priest Blessing water, you know, we call it holy water. It's not, but. But I think also what happens here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Blake Neff]

You know, a lot of these events were booked before Pope Francis died. I don't know whether that was true of the global warming thing, but a lot of them are. There was even a papal encyclical that's come out because Francis had started it and then he died and Leo finished it. So some of this stuff is a little bit of a holdover from the Francis pontificate. And obviously there are plenty of things to rankle American political conservatives, you know, in some of the ways that the Pope has spoken about immigration. But I'll also point out the Pope came out and he said on immigration, nations are allowed to have borders. No one says that nations can't decide who comes in and out. You just gotta be nice to people, basically. And so I think for people who wanna have a problem, including especially traditional conservative American Catholics, they're always gonna find something to have a problem with. But broadly speaking, I think that the Pope, Leo respecters, defenders, you know, hopers, have been quite vindicated so far, which is good because Pope Leo could be Pope for like 20 years.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, are you satisfied with that answer?

[Andrew Colvitt]

We'll see, we'll see. It's very interesting because I got so used to, especially with Francis or Benedict, you'd always have that translation barrier where the Pope would say something and you'd have to say, oh well, the Pope, you know, he really meant this and it didn't translate great. And now we just have a Pope who is a native English speaker and just commenting in English on things. And we actually still get that, or they still say, well, the Pope actually, if you, if you know the historical.

[Charlie Kirk]

Context behind this, I take a very ecumenical view of these things. As you know, Michael, I as a cradle Catholic who ended up finding faith in college through a Protestant tradition, I love, I love all Christians. I'm a, I'm pro Christian, pro Catholic, and I want the Catholic Church to be healthy and vibrant. So God bless you, Michael Knowles.

[Blake Neff]

Andrew, I don't know if I ever told you this. It was some Protestants who helped bring me back too.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see what happens. See you next time, guys. Hour two coming up next.

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[Pete Hegseth]

Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes. Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated.

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Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi is promising a thorough investigation of the matter. Senator Wicker is the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He points out that the ramifications of the report on the attack attack on the attack are quote, serious charges. The Trump administration is facing another legal setback of sorts as a federal appeals court has ruled that Trump appointed acting U.S. attorney for the State of New Jersey Alina Habba was illegally given that job. As a result, Habba is disqualified from supervising cases. She served as President Trump's personal lawyer leading up to his re election. There is still no comment from the White House or the Justice Department on Monday's ruling. The family of West Virginia National Guardsman Andrew Wolf is breathing a bit of a sigh of relief this morning. The 24 year old was shot in the nation's capital last week and has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. While doctors say he is still fighting for his life. They also say he gave the hospital staff treating him a thumbs up on Monday and even wiggled his toes meantime. And we're still working to get Funeral details for 20 year old specialist Sarah Beckstrom who was killed in that attack. New charges could be filed against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James as soon as this week. That's what's being attributed to sources in the Justice Department. You may remember the cases against the duo fell apart last week after federal judge dismissed the charges saying the Trump Justice Department department violated the Constitution and federal law by appointing Lindsay Halligan as interim U.S. attorney. Halligan ultimately brought the charges against Comey and James which were eventually dismissed. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome to hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm excited about our next guest. He has gone massively viral. He was also a frequent guest of the show and spoke with Charlie many, many times about COVID and the vaccines and some of the trials around there. He's now going viral again in a massive, massive story. That's Alex Berenson. He's an independent journalist. Unreported truth substack. So check him out there or on X. Alex Berenson. Alex, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you.

[Alex Berenson]

Emotional for me, honestly, because I, you know, the last time I was on, it was obviously with Charlie. And I'm really sorry, guys. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing you both later this month, but I'm really sorry.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, I. And, you know, people. People should know that I reached out to Alex. He's going to be at Amfest, which is coming up December 18th to the 21st in Phoenix, Arizona. It's gonna be a massive, massive event. And, Alex, you're gonna be sort of. We're gonna be debating on the merits or lack thereof, of marijuana. And Charlie loved talking to you about that. And so when we knew. When we knew we were gonna be doing a debate about marijuana, you were the first person I reached out to. And I was like, alex, you know, Charlie would want you there. And you're like, well, how do I say no to that?

[Andrew Colvitt]

And Alex was such a prophet.

[Charlie Kirk]

He was.

[Andrew Colvitt]

He was. He was shilling against marijuana at the peak. Oh, it's no big deal. Legalize it everywhere frenzy. And now, now opinions are turning back against it, and he. You really helped pave the way for that.

[Alex Berenson]

It's gonna be, it's gonna be interesting debate, but, yeah, I, I am glad to see that. And I mean, it's funny with Charlie. You know, maybe it's because I was, you know, I was going to text Andrew. You know, maybe it's because he didn't go to college. Like, his, his instincts were so good on so many things, and they were good on Covid, and they were good on, you know, the MRNA's, and they're good on pot. Like, he, he just got it. And so, yeah, I'm, I'm happy to be there. And, yeah, as you know, I couldn't, I couldn't say no. I was, I was proud you guys invited me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we're grateful to have you and I'm looking forward to seeing you, Alex. And you've got this huge story out. It's a huge bombshell allegation. And you can fill us in on the details, but your substack. Urgent. A young child died of cardiac arrest after being jabbed during Moderna's key COVID vaccine trial. What's going on here, Alex?

[Alex Berenson]

This is really interesting because, you know, I've been writing about the MRNA's for, like, five years, and, and that story is actually, believe it or not, I wrote it in January.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Alex Berenson]

And this is one of these things. Like, I wrote it, I thought it was super important. And, you know, the Biden administration was still in office and, you know, they, they, they didn't care. Moderna declined to comment. And, you know, this weekend, some attention a little bit then, but it mainly just sat there. But what happened is last Friday, the, the new FDA, the FDA under, you know, RFK Jr. And Trump, there's a guy named Vinay Prasad who's the head, really the head vaccine regulator, and he wrote a memo to his staff saying, we've reviewed, you know, a number of cases where vaccines, you know, were linked to deaths of people of children and teenagers age 7 to 16. He said, We've looked at 96 cases and we found at least 10 where there's a real connection in the, you know, in the view of our reviewers. Okay? And we think there's a lot more than that. And there probably, there probably are a lot more, but we're being very conservative. We're saying there are these 10 deaths. And, you know, and, and so I, so I went back and I said, look, guys, you know, yes, there are a lot of deaths, but guess what? There was even a death of a child in Moderna's own trial. And they basically hid that for almost Three years. They disclosed it in one place that I happen to know has like really comprehensive data, which is not the fda, it's actually the European drug regulator. And they put it up there basically knowing that nobody was ever going to look at it. And I, and I, you know, because this is what I do, I spend my days reading databases, you know, that nobody is looking at. I found this. And so there was this debt and what's even worse, and they released sort of no specific information except saying that this was a preschool age child, a 2 to 5 year old age child who suffered cardiorespiratory arrest and died. All right, so they, you know, they, these vaccines were approved for children, you know, both from Pfizer and Moderna in, in late 2021 and 2022. And there was a big giant push, you know, with, with ad campaigns and every, you know, bit of legacy media and every public health person saying, go get your kids vaccinated. The data from these trials show that the vaccines did almost nothing to stop infections in kids. Okay, that's a B. Kids are at tiny risk of serious injury or death from COVID And three, when you look at the clinical trial data from the trials themselves, okay, you see that the kids who got vaccinated, who got the shots, had many more side effects. They had high fevers, they had infections, they had pain. And in some cases, one weird thing is for some reason there seem to be diabetic complications sometimes from vaccines and kids, meaning you can actually see cases of type 1 diabetes, which is basically supposed to be a genetic disease developing after vaccination in some kids from the MRNA's and all this stuff was out there. And the FDA, the Biden administration, they did nothing about it. Places like the New England Journal of Medicine, they did nothing about this. It's so, it makes me so angry. No kids should have been vaccinated with this. And European countries by about, really by 2022, they were much stricter about what they were doing for kids and young adults. But the vaccine fanatics in this country wouldn't let this go. And they have done so much damage because, look, I am in favor, and you know, maybe some people who are watching this are not, but I'm basically in favor of stuff like the measles vaccine. I think that's an important vaccine. And yes, there may occasionally be side effects, but it's much lower. We know how that works. And I understand there may be some parents who don't want to get their kids vaccinated against measles, but what we've done is write parents about all vaccines, frighten parents into not getting their kids routinely vaccinated, and even for stuff that might be more dangerous with vaccines, that worked a lot better. And it's just disgusting to me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, it's interesting. So you were, I saw you responding to somebody on Twitter. This is a. Jonathan Laxton, M.D. said the death occurred in a child with chronic respiratory failure 144 days post dose and was reported with the first results March 2025. It's not a vaccine death. I, I won't request an apology. And you said, nope, that's not the case. Can you reply to this guy? 2, 2 minutes left in this segment?

[Alex Berenson]

Absolutely. So, so, so this death happened in like 2020, late 2022, 2023. And what you need to know is that the only people of the real information about what happened are inside the company. Okay. And maybe quote, unquote, independent investigator, but the way it works is the company takes the first pass and they say, you know what, we think that this child might have been sick before, and so we'll think the vaccine caused this. Guess what? That stuff that that guy's talking about, that's at birth, okay? That's four years before this child was healthy. And how do I know the child is healthy? Because the title of the trial is a vaccine trial in Healthy children. They didn't want sick kids in this because they didn't want kids to get, you know, vaccine injuries. And so, and they, you know, they wanted sort of the healthiest, popular pop. The healthy. I'm sorry, the healthiest possible population. And that's what they got. And so then what happens is when people get injured by the vaccine or by any drug in a clinical trial, the company running the trial is going to go out of its way to try to find other excuses for this. And by the way, this is not just a problem with Moderna. This is not just a problem with vaccines. This is a problem with the drug industry in the US and so that's what happened in this case. Do I know that the vaccine caused this child's injury? I do not.

[Charlie Kirk]

Does.

[Alex Berenson]

Does this guy know the vaccine didn't cause a child's injury? No, he does not. Neither of us know because the company isn't really disclosing enough information for somebody outside to know. And so that's, I mean, that's one of the many problems, and that's one of the many reasons people in the United States are so suspicious of vaccines and of big Pharma and They should be. They're not getting the full story here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and you, you make the point, Alex, that if these companies are good at one thing, it's about designing trials that give them the result that they want. And so the fact that this went so poorly, and you mentioned, yeah, a kid probably died from it, that's what your, your findings seem to suggest. But there was tons of other side effects and abnormalities that were also detected. I got to take a quick break. Tell you guys about Good Ranchers. More with Alex Berenson in the next segment. But if you are anything like me this holiday season, you want to give a gift that actually means something. Not another sweater or pair of socks that's just going to end up in the trash. You want to give something what people remember. Because when you give a good rancher's gift, you're not just sending America's best meat, which you are. You're bringing people together. The moment that box shows up, a story begins, somebody preheats the skillet, and before you know it, people are laughing, talking, gathering around the table, sharing memories. That's what makes good Ranchers so unique. Plus, every box is filled with high quality a 100% American raised beef, chicken or pork or seafood, all sourced from local farms and ranches, delivered right to your door. So this year, don't just give a gift, give a reason to gather. Visit goodranchers.com to start gifting. And while you're there, treat yourself with your own subscription to America's Best Meat. And when you use code Kirk K I R K, you'll get $40 off your first order. So go to goodranchers.com promo code Kirk for $40 off your first order. Check it out. Let's get back to the table. We'll be right back.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Foreign.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show, more with Alex Berenson. As the president's cabinet meeting is ongoing, we're playing that in the break, so you can check it out there. Alex, so you are basically alleging here that there were so many issues with this trial, especially with kids. Would you say that this should not have been approved by the fda, regardless of whether or not this, this child died tragically? Do you think there's still a case that this should not have been approved, regardless of that fact?

[Alex Berenson]

Well, the girl did die. I mean, whether or not the vaccine killed her, we don't know. We do know the vaccine caused lots of other side effects in children. Okay. And we know that the vaccine didn't work very well in children. And we know that children were at very low risk, I mean, essentially no risk if they were at all healthy, from, you know, death or serious injury from COVID I mean, it did happen occasionally, but it was very rare. So on balance, the FDA shouldn't have approved these for kids. And I don't know if you recall, but in 2021, there was a move in certain blue states to even try to force mandate these vaccines for kids going to public school. Fortunately, it didn't go anywhere. Governor Newsom tried to make that happen. There were other governors who tried to make that happen. And I think, fortunately, they realized that the parental pushback would be so severe, even in blue states, that they didn't do it. But the fact that they even considered it tells you how in the tank they were for the vaccine companies and how sort of how they lost their minds about the risks and benefits of this vaccine. No, this vaccine should not have been approved for children. The MRNA should not have been approved for children. Again, European countries didn't go this route. And I think the FDA under, you know, Bobby Kennedy, under the new FDA commissioner, Marty Macri, and under Vinay Prasad, who actually runs the vaccine division. I hope those guys are going to push to essentially pull approval on some level. It doesn't matter at this point because parents have seen this for themselves and they've profoundly rejected the MRNA vaccines for kids. Something like 3% of kids got boosters last year, and this year it's going to be fewer. So people know, they know that they got their kids vaccinated for this. You know, unfortunately, a lot of them were foolish enough to do that, or, you know, foolish is the wrong word. They Were sort of suckered into doing it in 2022 and they saw their kids had, you know, many cases, bad fever, severe side effects. And then guess what, the kids who weren't vaccinated and got Covid had like a day of a cold. So they know it was a really bad bet. And, and I think we're in a place where, you know, we're going forward. There's going to be a lot more skepticism. One question people have said to me is, is there going to be accountability here? Is somebody going to actually crack the hammer on Moderna or on Pfizer? And I don't know the answer to that. It sort of depends on what the company's actually hiding, what their behavior was. They have very strong legal protections. But you know, if their conduct was really bad, there might be a way to pierce those. But, but it's, but I don't want to promise that cuz it's pretty unlikely.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean that was gonna be my next question is what, what does accountability look like? Can, can these families sue? Can. You know, I know we have the vaccine immunity with, with these vaccine makers. And so the, the question is then what are the lessons learned and what can the new regime at the FDA do to protect parents and kids?

[Alex Berenson]

Regime is going to be a lot more skeptical about vaccines. That is the key. More skeptical in general about drug companies going forward, as they should be. But they're going to be very skeptical about vaccines. You know, the word vaccine to people on the left and in the public health community, it's almost like this religious word to them. It's like if you, you have to bow to the great God vaccine and you can't raise questions and you can't say, hey, maybe, maybe a vaccine that makes sense for a 75 year old doesn't make sense for a 2 year old. And maybe, you know, if your child is at zero risk from hepatitis B, forcing them to get a hepatitis B shot when they're at birth doesn't make a lot of sense. So there's been this again, this love, this strange fixation in the public health community with being unwilling to question vaccines. And it's very clear that Vinay and Marty and RFK are going to be more skeptical. And you know, are they, are they going to do everything the way I would do it? Not necessarily, but they're going to follow the science. I think they're going to try to make good decisions and I hope that's going to lead to a smarter vaccine schedule and ideally what it will lead to is more parental confidence, not less. But getting these MRNA Covid shots off the market for kids is the first step in that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well said. I actually agree with you that it's going to lead to more parental trust. If we're willing to say no to certain vaccines and yes to others, I think it's going to inspire a lot more trust with parents out there. Alex, we got to wrap up here. Tell us where, where people can follow you.

[Alex Berenson]

Read this story on Unreported Truth. It's my substack. It's free. You can sign up, you know, and, and, and I also am on X. I'm pretty prolific there. But guys, it's really great to talk to you. And you too. And again, I don't want to be emotional, but it feels good to be on with you guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Great. It was great to have you, Alex. We'll be right back.

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump meeting with his cabinet at the White House today. Today's meeting, by the way, comes on the heels of an Oval Office get together with various cabinet members and other national security leaders yesterday to discuss future actions related to Venezuela. The Commander in Chief will wrap up his busy day with an announcement about Trump accounts. Those accounts are new tax advantaged savings and investment accounts slated to benefit America's children. They were established through the passage of the President's one big beautiful bill. Stay tuned to Real America's Voice for live coverage of the various events happening at the White House throughout the day. The Navy admiral who gave the order for a follow up strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean back in September is scheduled to brief members of the House and the Senate Armed Services Committees on the attack this coming Thursday. At issue are concerns about potential war crimes because there were reportedly survivors of the initial strike and the second strike was supposedly ordered to kill any remaining people on the vessel, which if accurate, could be illegal. Both Democrats and Republicans are raising concerns about how the strike was carried out. In the meantime, the White House claims the second strike was in self defense in accordance with laws governing armed conflict.

[Pete Hegseth]

Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes. Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated.

[Terrence Bates]

Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi is promising a thorough investigation of the matter. Senator Wicker is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He points out that the ramifications of the report on the attack are, quote, serious charges. The Trump administration is facing another legal setback of sorts as a federal appeals court has ruled that Trump appointed acting U.S. attorney for the state of New Jersey, Alina Habba was illegally given that job. As a result, Haba is disqualified from supervising cases. She served as President Trump's personal lawyer leading up to his reelection. There is still no comment from the White House or the Justice Department on Monday's ruling.

[Charlie Kirk]

Relentless in spirit. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Connection, open dialogue. These are the things that build communities. Charlie and TikTok shared in that knowledge and that belief. That's why TikTok has built a space where that kind of listening actually happens. People don't just post, they respond. They build on each other's ideas. You'll see a teacher simplifying a tough lesson. So at finding clicks, you'll see a gardener sharing a trick that saved their crop. But what matters most isn't the video that's posted first. It's what comes next. Someone asking a question, someone else answering with a story of their own. And suddenly people who've never met become a community built on curiosity. When people listen and understand, a shift happens, walls come down, and you realize you're not quite so different after all. And that's what makes TikTok so powerful. That's why we partner with them. That's why Charlie was such an avid poster on TikTok, because we know that every post can turn into a conversation, and a conversation can make a difference. Joining the program now is Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from the great state of Oklahoma. Senator, welcome back to to the Charlie Kirk show.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Thank you, Andrew. Thanks for having me on, brother.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, listen, I had to have you back on because you are in the know on this one. You're part of the committee here. Center Armed Services Committee. That now was Senator Wicker. News broke that he and the senator from Delaware. Right.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Rhode Island White House, Jack Reed.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, Jack, that's the one. Thank you. They have launched what they're calling and framing is a bipartisan inquiry into the strike on the narco terrorist boat that has caused all the kerfuffle which the New York Times now is. Has rebutted. The Washington Post original reporting that Secretary Hegseth somehow called for the second strike. That's not what happened. I needed to bring you on to help make sense of this. How did we get to this point where we're playing footsie with the Democrats to investigate Trump's cabinet?

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Well, what happened is it wasn't an inquiry, it was actually an oversight. So what Senator Wicker, I actually had a conversation with him today and said, so what are we doing here? I mean, are we playing games? Do we think that Jack Reed is going to move into a bipartisan manner? Because he has not been bipartisan at all. I hate to say it because I'm not trying to give the guy any credit at all because he is on my. I'm using a Christmas term here. He's my naughty list. That'd be Mark Kelly. He and Mark Kelly has been more part bipartisan on the Senate Armed Services Committee than. Than Jack Reed has. And what Wicker said is, no, this has got blown out of proportion. This was simply an oversight. Like today we had an oversight on a lot of accidents, an oversight hearing. A lot of accidents that's been happening on aircraft carriers on certain platforms. And. And he says that's all this is intended. This isn't to drag Secretary Hex Seth up here. It's not to. We've already been briefed on the operation. This is just to make sure that. That we are. That Congress is basically still informed. Now. Those were his words. This thing could morph Andrew, into anything. I think it's a very slippery slope. And when we start down this road, if we start bringing in individuals because we know that they are well within their authority, they, meaning the Secretary of War and President Trump as well, within their authority to prevent terrorist activities coming to our shores and by hitting them in international water or hitting them in U. S. Water, whatever takes place, they're within their authority to do that because they have been deemed a terrorist organization. And thank God someone's finally being proactive and killed them. By the way, a recent poll just came out that was by a, I would say a bipartisan, if not left leaning pollster company that said that 71% of America actually supports President Trump hitting these narco boats in international water.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I want to, you know, I just want to flag this because this is an email we got from one of our listeners at Freemont, Charlie Kirk, and send us more. How do you feel about this? And he just said he contacted Congressman Mike Turner's office because Mike Turner was questioning this, saying it could be on the House strike on the House side. And he's saying, I don't know a single Republican who doesn't fully support Hegseth and the Pentagon on this. He says Republican voters are furious if that Republican leadership would work with Democrats to hamstring or damage Hegseth over this. So I think we need some perspective here. Our base definitely likes blowing up drug smugglers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Well, it's the bad guys, right? I mean, it's simple. Go out to the bad guys. Why would we allow them to get on our shores and distribute their product when, if you look at the numbers in 2024, we lost more Americans on our streets and, and then we, to drug overdoses than we did in the entire Vietnam War? So this is, this is a, not just a pandemic, this is a war that we're having. That's these narcotics, these narco boats and, and terrorist organizations, they don't care about the lives of the, of, of our brothers and sisters and loved ones and friends. So why the heck are we, are we playing this game? Does the Democrats think that these aren't drug boats? Do they think these aren't drug dealers? Do they, do they think these drugs aren't coming to our shores? Do they think that the cartels aren't terrorist organizations? Or is it just the anti Trump syndrome and the deranged Trump syndrome that is, that's taking over the fact that anything President Trump does, they're going to object to. And what we got to be careful is some Republicans that we don't join their rhetoric.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And I just, I want to remind people what did so much damage to the first Trump administration. It was the Russiagate hoax. They come out with this, they make it sound extremely serious and super, super duper real. And we had a, we had a trifecta just like this time where we had Republican Senate, Republican House, and they allowed themselves to be dragged into this morass of investigation. Oh, we have to look at it. We have to make sure everything is fair. And that blew out the entire two year period. We had that trifecta for basically nothing. It was essentially we self sabotaged ourselves. And Democrats would love nothing more than to let us sabotage ourselves again on important policies on the border, on migration, on internal security.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I just want to. This is a direct note to Senator Wicker and Congressman Turner. You are playing with fire here by playing footsie with the Democrats on this stuff. I hope that this is simply you guys checking a box and moving on and there's nothing to see here. But if this turns into what Blake just described is Trump 1.0 all over again. Same playbook. Look, your base is going to be livid. This, there will be political consequences for both of these gentlemen. And I just want to. These are the people that they're playing footsie with here, Senator. And I know you have to be collegial. This is, you know, the Senate. You guys are a big fraternity over there. And I actually respect that. I respect that. No, I just respect that. You got it. You got to do it a different way. I can be a little bit more forceful, but, you know, these are the people you're playing footsie with here. 199. This is U.S. senator Chris Murphy talking about Pete Hegseth. Pete Hegseth needs to resign. And if he doesn't resign, Donald Trump needs to fire him.

[Alex Berenson]

He is a walking, talking national security embarrassment. He seems more interested in winning video.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pull up contests than he does in protecting this nation. He's obsessed with the weight of his.

[Alex Berenson]

Soldiers, the facial hair of his soldiers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Not concerned with actual, actually keeping the country safe. But wait, there's more. Here's Senator Mark Kelly and I want to get into this because this feels like a coordinated op. First they give this, this, these, these six lawmakers come out with this video seeding the gr. It comes out of nowhere. And then you get this WaPo story alleging a war crime against Secretary Hegseth. And oh, oh, that just was a convenient timed story from Washington Post. Even though the New York Times now rebutted it. It all feels way too convenient. And Mark Kelly's just going out on the media circuit here. Senator keeps hitting the story again and again and again. Here he is 200 he's putting out on the Internet.

[Alex Berenson]

Turtles with rocket propelled grenades kill. I mean, have you seen this? This is the Secretary of Defense. This is not a serious person. He should have been fired after Signal Gate.

[Andrew Colvitt]

All I'm going to remind everyone is we had Disney cartoons in World War II where Donald Duck fights Hitler.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, yeah, and we also had Disney.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Cartoons in the Korean War. We also had them in Vietnam War, by the way. We also had them in Desert Storm. It's just stupid. It's just, you know, you got Murphy and you got Kelly that are jockeying for leadership inside the Democrat Party because there is no leadership. Hakeem Jeffrey is a joke. You got obviously Chuck Schumer who you know is a joke. And so people are just moving around and it's, and it's ridiculous. But we do, Andrew, we do have to be very careful on the way we move forward with this, which is why I wanted to talk to Senator Wicker this morning. And, and by the way, the White House is being very, very, very transparent. They've already briefed the, the committee on the or the ongoing narco boats that were blowing up. Plus they now offer to bring in legal papers to which I think I'm getting a brief on in about an hour from now that the White House is literally walking over the papers while they're probably driving it and getting out and walking. They're, they're delivering it in a SEAL bag. I've got to go down into to a skiff and they're going to read me in on, on, on everything that took place. And 27 members of Congress have already got read in 27 senators and I forget how many, how many members in the House have got read into it. So it's not like the White House isn't being transparent here. They are being extremely transparent. And I can tell you what I've been briefed on, on this specific strike that they're, that the Democrats are losing their ever loving mind on plus on the ongoing operations there. We are well within our authority. In fact American people and the Democrats should be proud because it's not just the narco bo that they're taking out. They got a coordinated effort going on with dhs, with Secretary Christy Noem that are disrupting their, their, their, their drug rings and routes and distribution lines and money laundering inside the United States. So people want to look at just what ICE is doing but why they're in these cities. These are heavily drug trafficked areas too. They're disrupting all of their, their infrastructure. So you have President Trump that has finally taken a full press approach to drugs which the last president do that by the Ronald Reagan. But Ronald Reagan really focused more on the, you know, in Colombia, Central and South America, President Trump is going to the countries, going to the cartels designate them as a terrorist organization using our military and international waters, using, you know, our Coast Guard and US Waters and then using law enforcement and disrupting them on both ends of the chain from the distribution side to the livery side and then to where the finances come from. I mean, it's, it, this should be, every American should be saying, good on you. Because there's not one of us, not one of your people listen to the show, none of the people that are, that are helping produce the show or you guys that doesn't know somebody that's been affected by this pandemic of drugs in our, in our country right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you're absolutely right. I mean, we all probably have personal anecdotes that we could relate to. And I just want to leave us with this final thought that they sow doubt in the military saying you can disobey direct orders. And then they have this follow up story suggesting war crimes at the highest level to say, look, see, we told you, you need to start disobeying the commander in chief. It's very, very serious, Senator. So I just want to make sure that we're all seeing it for what it is. This is a coordinated operation to, you know, Eric Schmidt, one of your colleagues is saying color revolution. You know, this, this has a lot of the hallmarks of that. So thank you for joining us. I look forward to hearing more on what you hear and what they brief you with. Senator, thank you again.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me on.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see you soon. All right, final segment of the day coming up next.

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[Charlie Kirk]

I want to ask you about Elon.

[Donald Trump]

Musk if I could.

[Charlie Kirk]

You talked about Elon Musk, you had him in dinner here in the White House.

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Is he now back in your circle of friends?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I really don't know. I mean, I, I like Elon a lot. Lot. He was a very. He really helped during the election with his endorsement. He felt strong. Look, we had one problem. You know, I didn't want to have everybody have to have an electric car and he makes electric cars and. Yeah, I think we get, I think we get along well.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Mr. President.

[Blake Neff]

Mr. President. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Michelle Colmore.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Donald Trump]

When you talk about affordability.

[Blake Neff]

Is going.

[Charlie Kirk]

Forward, are the American people, do you believe, getting impatient with the reforms that you're making? They've talked about.

[Alex Berenson]

It's about.

[Donald Trump]

I think they're getting fake news from guys like you. Look, affordability is a hoax that was started by Democrats who caused the problem of pricing. And they didn't end it when. Look, they lost in a landslide. We won every swing state. We won the pocket popular vote. We won everything. You take a look at districts, it was 2,750 to 500, 525. Because that was an affordability problem. We brought it down. Look at energy. Look at, look at the gasoline press. That's like the simplest and it's the biggest because if energy comes down, everything comes down. That's the way it works. We are going to be in 2. $2.50. You said 199 in some places of the country. Right? You said it, I didn't. And they won't check you. They'll check me. So, you know, I'd like to use your, your number 199 a gallon. Unthinkable. If you go back a year and a half ago, it's unthinkable. So, no, we're bringing the prices down way down. Beef is coming down. Now, we've done certain magic and beef is coming down. But we inherited horrible prices. We inherited really the worst, again, the worst inflation in history. We inherited that. When I came in, that's what he had. And we fixed inflation and we fixed almost everything, if you want to know the truth. Including eight wars. We got one to go. But including eight wars, both. But when they always say, what's today? Where they have a race going on right now in Tennessee and this woman goes, affordability, affordability. They're the ones that caused the problem. The prices were way high. We're bringing the prices down. But they're like scam artists. You know, they're con. I call them con men and women. They come out, they say affordability like oh. Oh, I see. Price. We're going to get prices down so far, but we brought them down from the prices they caused. The reason that they had the highest inflation in the history of our country is because they had the highest prices. But we brought them down, and now we have normal inflation. Yeah.

[Alex Berenson]

Mr. President, thank you so much for taking questions with your assembled cabinet. I wanted to clarify something that you had said on Sunday regarding the boat strikes near Venezuela. You had said that you didn't know if the second strike on that one boat had happened, but you wouldn't have wanted it. Now that your administration has acknowledged that it happened, do you support that second strike? And, Mr. Secretary, I want to clarify something you had said in an interview back in September, I believe, on Fox News. You said that you had watched that strike live on television in real time. Did you know that there were survivors after the initial strike?

[Donald Trump]

Well, look, all I know is this and every boat that you see get blown up. We save 25,000 on average. Lives. 25,000 lives. They've been sending enough of this horrible fentanyl and other things like cocaine and other things. But fentanyl right now is the leader of the pack to kill our entire nation because a little speck on the head of a pin can kill somebody. It's very dangerous stuff. I know so many people where their sons were drug addicts. They had one little sample and they died. They died. They were. They couldn't believe it. As far as the attack is concerned, I didn't. You know, I still haven't gotten a lot of information.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. You know what I meant. I miss Charlie quizzing you on Hillsdale courses. On the tests, without.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Actually, we really were just doing the Roman history ones. I was hoping we'd get some variety on. I'd probably not do very well if it was on, I don't know, Elizabethan literature or something.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, okay, yeah, I don't know anybody who would do well on that. But Hillsdale College. What's that?

[Andrew Colvitt]

Someone who took the course, of course.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, did they? Do they have an Elizabeth?

[Andrew Colvitt]

I don't know. I was kind of.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good.

[Andrew Colvitt]

They have literature courses?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Well, go to Charlie for Hillsdale right now and see which courses you should take. History, Economics, the great works of literature. Did you study these things in school? Probably not, sadly. But even if you did, it's probably time for a refresher course. You can let the good folks at Hillsdale College that offer more than 40 free online courses help you out, including their newest course on totalitarian novels. It's free eight lecture course. You'll learn from Hillsdale College President Larry Arne as he goes in depth on four novels, 1984, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon and that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels were written in the 1930s and 40s, they are highly relevant today as they show what a tyrannical government does to human nature. More importantly, they show us that faith, family and friends are worth fighting for. Maybe you read these books long ago in school. Maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem a little intimidating. Let Hillsdale College help make the most of them. Go right now to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll. There's no cost. It's easy to get started. Charlie for hillsdale.com Blake let's get some emails here.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, we got quite a few. We had an interesting one from someone who asked their name be withheld, but they said that their younger brother got, they believe type 1 diabetes after getting the chickenpox vaccine when he was 7. And they say in their church of about 400 people, 7 to 12 kids in the same age range all have type 1 diabetes and they believe it could be related to that. I don't know of any alleged connection between those because I do suspect suggested some maybe it's possible. But again, there are a lot of illnesses that just manifest when you're a young child and then you also happen to get vaccinated when you're a young child.

[Charlie Kirk]

But interesting though, it is genetic apparently. Scott says it's called sewing disposal. Dissent in regards to General Kelly. It's not General Kelly, it's Captain Kelly. Senator Kelly no, no, no ranking here.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

I agree.

[Charlie Kirk]

Sewing dissent, that's exactly what they're doing it on purpose to so distrust dissent in the ranks and then they come out with a story that says hey look, we told you that there could be illegal orders this double tap kill.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Kyrie says, I believe the strikes against drug boats fall under the category of self defense. I mourn the death of any human being, but they are entering at their own risk and their blood is on their own heads. I support Secretary Hegseth. I don't I didn't see anyone who was really skeptical of vaporizing bad people.

[Charlie Kirk]

Are people like it. This is a positive policy. This is a very popular policy. Kevin says most Republicans are too concerned with being liked by people that will never give them that satisfaction. Praise God. Senator Mark Moyn Mullen is not in that boat.

[Andrew Colvitt]

He also said he sent two emails and he also said it's time to end the Filibuster because he says Murkowski and Collins are working to get rid of Hegseth. He believes now that does show the flip side, which is it's possible he's correct on those two, but if there's even one or two more, that's the hazard with the filibuster is do you have the majority to pass the things that you need?

[Charlie Kirk]

You gotta remember, you're got McConnell still there. He's not gone.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Who knows who secretly is not maybe secretly doesn't love the agenda on immigration.

[Charlie Kirk]

You got wicker. Who's even launching Oversight.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Nothing. Nothing would be worse than blowing up the filibuster and achieving nothing with it. And then Democrats have absolute more. They feel they have absolute morally way to pass everything they want. If you want to get rid of the filibuster, make sure you have a plan and that you have the votes to enact that plan. And it's good.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know what that makes me think of is like Hobdy, some of those, like, real tight Senate races that we just didn't quite get over the finish line. One or two more votes would have made this much more of a viable plan.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Or to have like a Nate. Nate Morris in Kentucky as opposed to, you know, McConnell. So some of those things, maybe reinforcements are coming down the pike, but we don't have them right now.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We don't have game of interest. I remember throughout the 2020 tens, you know, you had these winnable races that you lost for one reason or another. In Delaware.

[Blake Neff]

We.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We could have flipped a Delaware Senate seat.

[Donald Trump]

I don't remember.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It was. It was Mike Castle and he was their representative who was really popular, and he lost in the primary to Christine o', Donnell, who was.

[Charlie Kirk]

Let's just be frank.

[Andrew Colvitt]

She was out of what was winnable in Delaware. And so we just lost a race that we could have had an upset. We could have had a kind of Susan Collins type person where.

[Senator Mark Wayne Mullin]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Are they a moderate?

[Alex Berenson]

Sure.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But you want a moderate Republican over a Democrat in a deep blue state. And there were several races like that. And it's that game of inches, which is why if you are in Tennessee, if you live in Nashville or west of Nashville, look up, make sure if you are supposed to vote, vote, go vote, go vote. I don't care if we're favored to win. Blow them out.

[Blake Neff]

No.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Narratives matter too.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we have to win that seat. It is a very winnable seat, but we got to show up for it and win it. Win it, win it and vote Vote, Vote. Fight, fight, fight. Win it for Charlie. Come on Tennessee 7. We'll see you tomorrow. I will be gone. Blake will be in the chair, but I'll see you Thursday. Until then, How do I do it.

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