The Charlie Kirk Show, December 22, 2025

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show on Real America’s Voice

Episode Date: December 22, 2025
Main Theme: Reflections and Resolve at America Fest—Unity, Debate, and Defining the Conservative Vision in the Post-Charlie Era

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the aftermath and highlights of Turning Point USA’s America Fest 2025—its first without founder Charlie Kirk. Hosting from an undisclosed location, regular host Charlie Kirk, co-host Blake Neff, and pollster Rich Barris offer analysis on the event’s atmosphere, key debates, notable guests (including Nicki Minaj’s surprise appearance), and the results of the influential AmFest straw poll. The show serves both as a celebration of movement unity and as a critical check-in on the MAGA/conservative coalition’s priorities, morale, and future direction.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Spirit of America Fest 2025

[11:31, 13:27, 15:27]

• The event was both transformative and highly attended (31,000 grassroots activists), with high energy and unity despite substantial online debates and perceived divisions.
• America Fest’s significance lay in robust debate and open conversations—Charlie Kirk’s legacy—ensuring the movement resisted extremism and fostered a "dominant center" rather than divisive factions.
• Multiple perspectives coexisted, but clear consensus emerged on central issues and values.

Quotes:

"What is harder is to build, to refine, to assuage, to unite and to advance. Charlie did the harder thing. He built this movement so people could feel brave and to be brave with action." — Charlie Kirk, [03:26]

“Anybody that was there absolutely had the time of their lives and realized just how much unity there is in the movement, in the love of the people.” — Charlie Kirk, [12:49]

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2. Highlights and Key Guests from America Fest

Notable Guests

[15:27, 38:00, 40:40]

• Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Megyn Kelly: Brought intensity and debate to the stage.
• Jesse Watters: Shared personal stories about Trump and reflected on Charlie’s influence.
• Nicki Minaj: Surprise guest, praised for courageous advocacy for persecuted Christians (especially in Nigeria). Her candid conversation with Erica Kirk made headlines, and her defense of universal beauty and rejection of "anti-white sentiment" was notable.

Quote:

“I don’t need someone with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty. ... It doesn’t bother me that a woman feels and says that she’s beautiful. Why shouldn’t she feel that?” — Nicki Minaj, [44:15]

Faith Night & Moral Messaging

[19:31, 29:09]

• Sunday was marked by open declarations of Christianity, with J.D. Vance providing a pivotal speech.

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3. J.D. Vance’s Historic Speech—Defining a “Christian Nation”

[15:27, 19:31, 29:09]

J.D. Vance’s address was hailed as a moment of moral clarity, emphasizing unity, courage, and the continued primacy of Christian values in American identity and public life.

Quote:

“The fruits of true Christianity are good husbands, patient fathers ... men who are willing to die for a principle if that’s what God asked them to do. Because so many of us recognize that it is better to die a patriot than live a coward.” — J.D. Vance, [19:31]

• Vance’s remarks that “we are, and by the grace of God, we always will be, a Christian [nation]” were deeply resonant ([29:09]).

Follow-up Analysis:
Blake Neff and others stressed these themes both bonded the coalition and reasserted its distinction from the left.

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4. The Role of Open Debate and Anti-Extremism

[03:26, 05:38, 47:02]

• The show returned repeatedly to the importance of resisting extremism, calling out antisemitism, and building bridges rather than walls within the right.
• Rob Schneider was highlighted for his message of rejecting both left-wing and right-wing extremists.

Quote:

"By taking moderate people with views held by the majority and turning them into monsters, [the left] hides the real monsters among us. If the right doesn’t learn from the left’s mistakes, if we start embracing our extremists... we’ll go down the same path they did." — Rob Schneider, [46:50]

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5. Grassroots Heroes & Community Moments

[55:17, 56:57]

• Special moments included appearances by those who symbolize “normal” America, like Grandma Jeannie from California, who responded to being harassed with humility and grace.
• Matt Shaw (Chicago Cubs) and others offered faith testimony and spoke to the show’s impact beyond politics.

Quote:

“The best thing that I can do isn’t to talk to them and disciple them, but it’s to show what my beliefs look like in my life. Sometimes it’s not a conversation, but simply the light that you shine.” — Matt Shaw, [55:17]

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6. Straw Poll Results: The Movement’s Pulse

[74:30, 79:21, 81:02, 91:36, 105:20, 112:48, 121:35]

Polling Logistics

• Largest and youngest sample ever for an AmFest poll, making it especially reflective of the movement’s future direction.
• Surveyed immediately after the event for fresh impressions.

2028 GOP Nominee Preference

• J.D. Vance wins in a landslide: 84.2% support, with the closest runner-up (Marco Rubio) at under 5% ([81:02]).

Quote:

“This is the direction we want to go in the future. ... There has never been such widespread agreement... This poll, the results... are very clear.” — Rich Barris, [80:07]

Israel Policy Sentiment

• 53%: Israel is "one of many allies;"
• 33% see Israel as the top ally;
• Only 13% feel “not an ally”—far below what’s seen on social media ([91:36]).
• Indicates skepticism toward older policy orthodoxies among the young right, but not animosity.

Top Priorities and Concerns

• #1 Issue: "Winning the midterms" towers above all others ([103:06]).
• Other priorities: Voter ID, affordability, mass deportations, and accountability for "deep state" lawfare ([103:06]).
• Ukraine war: A near non-factor in priorities (<1%).

Top Perceived Threats

• Radical Islam and socialism/Marxism ranked as most pressing threats, followed by mass migration ([105:20]).
• Corrupt courts and deep state influence also loom large.

“The first two that really are at the top of the rank distribution are ideologies that the base feels are just not compatible with the American ideals, the American way of life." — Rich Barris, [105:47]

Immigration Moratorium

• A “stunning” 90% support for a moratorium on new immigration—a dramatic signal to GOP leaders about the mood of the base ([121:35]).

Quote:

“I am not naive. I know that the Republicans in Congress are not ready to tackle this issue. I strongly encourage you to reconsider... If you want to drive base turnout, lean into this issue.” — Charlie Kirk, [121:35]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Charlie Kirk wasn’t Nick Fuentes. Not even close. Charlie was about having conversations, addressing reality, opening up dialogue on college campuses.” — Charlie Kirk reflecting on the movement’s ethos, [05:38]
• “Why have we gotten to a point where certain colors or certain kinds of people have to be afraid of loving themselves?” — Nicki Minaj, [45:03]
• “This event is just we the people, man.” — Charlie Kirk, [27:39]
• “If we could tackle this other thing first, which is that fundamentally we've been letting in a lot of people who are not really compatible ... some of those other problems are stemming from that.” — Rich Barris, [105:47]
• “Twitter is not real life. Go to a Turning Point event and find out.” — Charlie Kirk, [50:36]

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Important Timestamps

| Topic/Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------- |-----------| | Charlie Kirk’s vision & legacy | 03:26 | | AmFest’s atmosphere & unity | 11:31–15:27| | Keynote & J.D. Vance remarks | 19:31, 29:09| | Nicki Minaj’s impactful Q&A | 40:40–45:14| | Rob Schneider on extremism | 46:47–47:22| | Grandma Jeannie’s “normalcy” moment| 56:49–58:35| | Straw Poll winner (J.D. Vance) | 79:21–81:02| | Israel policy breakdown | 91:36–94:06| | Most important issues | 103:06–103:39| | Top threats: Radical Islam, etc. | 105:20–107:06| | Immigration moratorium support | 121:35 |

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Conclusion/Takeaway

This episode vividly captures a movement at a crossroads—asserting itself around traditional themes (American/Biblical values, border security, patriotism, free speech, and faith), while actively resisting both left and right-wing extremes. The overwhelming support for J.D. Vance as the 2028 standard-bearer reflects a strong desire for morally clear, unapologetic leadership. Concerns over immigration, threats from radical ideologies, and a commitment to coalition-building underscore a base eager to both win and define the future of the American right, all within the shadow and spirit of its late founder, Charlie Kirk.

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For listeners seeking to understand the real pulse of the America First/conservative grassroots, this episode is an invaluable touchstone—rich with debate, conviction, and inside perspective.

Transcript

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Rich Barris]

Charlie's love for debate will always be.

[Charlie Kirk]

The DNA of Turning Point usa. We believe in debate because we believe in truth. Everyone and his mother has an opinion. It is not hard to have an opinion. It is not hard to pick fights, to accuse, to gossip, to defame and to revile. In our age, it can be very lucrative. What's more, it can be entertaining. What is harder is to build, to refine, to assuage, to unite and to advance. Charlie did the harder thing. My husband didn't build this movement so.

[Rich Barris]

People could feel comfortable.

[Charlie Kirk]

He built this movement so people could feel brave and to be brave with action.

[Rich Barris]

I really believe that the best way.

[Charlie Kirk]

To judge a goodness of a man is to see the goodness of his.

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[Charlie Kirk]

And on that measure, Charlie was unsurpassed. Erica, who I just saw backstage and.

[Blake Neff]

Whom I love and who I can.

[Charlie Kirk]

Tell you is totally committed to continuing the core principle of Charlie's public life, which is the right of every person to express what he believes that is rooted in Christian faith.

[Blake Neff]

We believe people should be able to.

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Say what they think because they have souls.

[Charlie Kirk]

I've performed for huge crowds all around the world. And no matter how many songs I do on that stage, it didn't mean as much as this.

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Because this is a direct link for younger people. This is a direct link between young people and God.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know about you, but When I voted November 5, 2024, I voted for closed borders.

[Rich Barris]

I voted for affordable groceries. I voted for lower gas prices.

[Charlie Kirk]

I voted for no more censorship.

[Rich Barris]

I voted for no more men in women's sports.

[Charlie Kirk]

You got to remember, a strong border means strong national security. We have to know who's coming in, who's going out, all that thing. Well, let me end with this. My time is up. Well, let me end with this. To the men and women of ice. To the men and women of the United States Border Patrol, I'd love to each and every one of you, I will have your six until the day I die. Charlie Kirk wasn't Nick Fuentes. Not even close. Charlie was about having conversations, addressing reality, opening up dialogue on college campuses. He made a point of resisting the more extreme elements on the right. He called people out when they got out of line, the gripers, the people who crossed into actual sexual anti Semitism. You cannot tell another human being to.

[Blake Neff]

Shut up, even shut up racist, because.

[Charlie Kirk]

You don't own him. He is an independent, autonomous person created by God as an individual. Okay? So that's where that belief comes from. That's where free speech comes from. And there's no accident. This is the only country in the world that protects it.

[Rich Barris]

Charlie wasn't just a speaker.

[Charlie Kirk]

He wasn't just a political thinker. He wasn't just a thought leader. Again, he was a bridge. He was a pathway.

[Rich Barris]

He was a connection point to generations.

[Charlie Kirk]

He was a pathway and connection point to communication, to inner politics.

[Rich Barris]

And he also looked at a generation.

[Charlie Kirk]

That has been mocked, that has been.

[Rich Barris]

Dismissed, that has been discouraged and told.

[Charlie Kirk]

Them, you matter, your ideas matter, your decisions matter. I didn't bring a list of conservatives to denounce or to de platform and I don't really care if some people out there. I'm sure we'll have the fake news media denounce me after this speech. But let me just say the best way to honor Charlie is that none of us here should be doing something after Charlie's death that he himself refused.

[Rich Barris]

To do in life.

[Charlie Kirk]

He invited all of us here.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is Monday after America Fest. We are all exhausted but energized. What an amazing event. Blake and the team are back in studio. Blake, welcome. Happy Monday.

[Blake Neff]

Happy Monday. Where are you, Andrew?

[Charlie Kirk]

I am in an undisclosed location, but excited about the holidays fast approaching. I told everybody I was, you know, what did I do, like, 48 interviews or something during the course of Amfest. And I told everybody, all I want to do for Christmas, all I want for Christmas is to sit on the couch, watch Christmas movies, eat baked goods, and add a few LBs and not even care. So that's. That is the plan this week. But, you know, we have to tell the tale. That was four action packed days of America Fest, Blake. I mean, that was, you know, every side of the political debate seemed to get in on what happened at amfest. Everybody had an opinion. I'm all. I'm all here for it. And, you know, more than any other Amfest in the history of Turning Point, this was. We had the eyes of the world, the nation, certainly, on this event. And so you're going to get a lot of opinions either way. But one thing is very clear. Anybody that was there absolutely had the time of their lives and realized just how much unity there is in the movement, in the love of the people. I think it was truly transformative. If you were in the space in the event and if you were just on Twitter taking potshots, I guess there's no pleasing you. But I mean, honestly, what an event. What an absolutely historic, enormous achievement for the team. And I'm really proud of everybody that was involved. It was such a triumph in so many ways. Blake, you were obviously there. You were taking part in a lot of the activities and interviews and shows. What was your take?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it's very funny because we were doing so many interviews for the exclusive segments that I kind of had a bit of tunnel vision. I didn't see that many of the speeches on stage. So I'm actually looking forward to catching some of the clips that we have here because we did, as I'm sure a lot of you listening right now know, we had our CK exclusives room. We talked to Megyn Kelly. We had Michael Knowles, we had Tom Homan. We had the sons of that Korean pastor, Pastor son who was arrested in Korea, who we had on the show at amfest last week. And so we saw all of that. But what we were Seeing on stage at the same time was. I think what was most interesting about this AM Fest is we've had it as a big event. We've had it as an event to get people fired up. We've had it as an event for people to celebrate after the 2024 win. But I think this was probably the most significant America Fest in terms of it really being a space where different members of the coalition, different members of maga go to state their position on what the movement should be, how they should approach subs, significant issues. I think it stands out. We built on the debate that we had last summer, and we had several debates on different issues. And I think that's a very promising theme that we'll be having going forward because we can do. We can do debates about Israel, we can do debates about weed. We can do. Maybe we'll have a debate about the property tax and everyone can yell at me again. I think it. That's what stood out about this America Fest, that there was. There was a certain combativeness over issues, but as you said, people on the ground. It was a very positive vibe, a very good attitude. There was a lot of unity coming from everyone remembering Charlie and what he meant for the movement. And I think most people there, the vast majority of people there, were extremely upbeat and they were remembering the things that we're all fighting for.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And then, you know, like I said, it was like an. It was like a play in four acts or something. You know, it was like night one, it was, you know, Ben Shapiro came on the stage, kind of name checked. A lot of people kind of took, as I said, it kind of took like a howitzer to a lot of the online. Right. And had, you know, it was like the Festivus for the rest of us. It was an episode of Seinfeld, aired his grievances, got it out of his system. And then you had a couple of those people, Tucker, on the first night, that kind of fired back. But, you know, I think Tucker was a little bit more restrained. And then you had Steve Bannon, obviously, Megyn Kelly. So you had a bunch of that kind of chatter. But by the. I think it was Saturday night. You had Jesse Waters come on and basically just tell funny stories about Trump and kind of talked about how Charlie inspired him and ended the Saturday night. And then we had four Faith Night. So we had, you know, proclamation of the Gospel. And we had, of course, Sunday, where we had the surprise guest, Nicki Minaj. We had Erica interview her. We had Don Jr. We had then, of course, J.D. vance, who was the capstone of the entire event. And I. I was telling people, I was like, you know, the capstone of this event with JD Coming in, it felt like, you know, dad's home. All right, settle down, kids. Here's what's gonna. Here's what's gonna be the message and the takeaway. And he just did such a good job of crystallizing, I think, all of the sort of various, I don't know, messaging, like through lines that you could pick apart and you could see. And then JD Vance just comes in and says, settle down. Here's the way it's gonna go. We're not gonna cancel anybody. We're not deplatforming anybody. We're gonna have these arguments out in the open. And by the way, here's where we're going as a movement. Here's why we're going to win the midterms. Here's why we're different than the left. Here's why, you know, you're not going to get hive minded collectivism and sit down, shut up, and pipe down. You know, it was just such a morally clear speech. I think in. It's going to go down in history books as one of the most important speeches ever. Not just because this was the first amfest of the post Charlie era, which was on everybody's hearts and minds the entire time. I mean, by the way, I just want to give a shout out to so many of the patriots that came up and gave me a hug and took a selfie. I could feel how much Charlie meant to you guys and how much he's still present in your hearts and in this movement and certainly at this event. But that speech was so important because of all of the storylines that were going into the event. And then obviously following the event through the week, he just added that moral clarity. And it underscored for me, Blake, that this is a politician that's not afraid to really declare the moral center of the conservative right and to do it forcefully, to do it articulately. And I just felt so uplifted by that. And I felt like for all of the noise and all the contentiousness of the last few days, it was like that was the way to end it. J.D. vance brought the clarity that the movement needed. And if you really go back and watch that speech where he talks about getting rid of racism and the DEI anti meritocracy and saying it's okay to be, you don't have to apologize for being white in the country, but you don't have to apologize for being Asian in the country. That we are a Christian nation. That we are. We are a very diverse coalition, but we are pulling in one direction. I genuinely think it was historic, it was important, and it's going to be looking back this moment that all of us can look to and say that was the moment where things really began to crystallize again.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I mean, how about we play some of that speech? We have a lot of JD Clips here. Do we have the Christian nation thing? I should have asked for that. But while I wait for that, let's just do that. Let's. Let's play 130.

[Charlie Kirk]

The fruits of true Christianity are good husbands, patient fathers, builders of great things, and slayers of dragons, and yes, men who are willing to die for a principle if that's what God asked them to do. Because so many of us recognize that it is better to die a patriot than live a coward.

[Blake Neff]

I think that was the biggest applause line of his speech, was that line. It's almost too bad we cut it off there, but it. It was a good line. It really crystallized what Charlie stood for. And I think that's gonna. That's gotta be the glue that binds the movement together in this year and probably the years to come. The legacy of Charlie, that. That great coalition builder, that great event planner, that great speaker, that great show host, that great man. And I think that was the biggest thing about Amfest was that we got the opportunity to spend four days remembering him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well said, Blake. That's a. That's perfectly said. And we're gonna get. We're gonna show a lot more clips in the. In a few segments that are following. And then, by the way, I want everybody to know we're going to be revealing the Results of the 2025America Festival Straw poll. So we have some massive insights. We're going to bring in Rich Barris to go through that at the top of the next hour. So don't go anywhere. We will get to those. And everybody has been asking me about it, so we have it. First, I'm going to tell you guys about our friends over at Good Ranchers. If you're anything like me, this holiday season, you want to give a gift that actually means something this year. Not another sweater that'll end up in the back of a closet or another pair of socks. That's exactly why I'm going to be gifting Good Ranchers. So good ranchers, 100% American beef, chicken, pork and seafood, all sourced from local farms and delivered right to your door. So it's genuinely good food worth gathering around. And gifting couldn't be easier. You just choose any gift box, add a gift note and then schedule the delivery date. Whether it's for family, friends, employees or clients, Good ranchers makes thoughtful gifting simple. So go to goodranchers.com code Kirk to get 40 $40 off plus free meat for life. That's goodrichers.com promo code Kirk we'll be right back.

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[Rich Barris]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are you thank three Days from Christmas. Man, does that feel good. Amfest is always for the team that's doing it. It's always a slog right before the holidays. It's amazing. It's a incredible way to close out the year. But when we get through and look forward to Christmas, it's a blessed thing. I want to tell you guys about our friends over at why Refi Amazing people. Private student loan debt in the United states totals about $300 billion. About 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. Why Refi refinances distressed or defaulted private student loans that that others will not touch. They don't care what your credit score is. They don't care what your history is with being able to pay this debt. They are here to help you. Don't call some faceless call center. They're going to tailor a solution that fits your budget. So that's the key. They're going to take what how much you make every month, how much is going out the out the door. And they're going to give you a solution that works with you every month. They're going to guarantee interest rates under 6% and they even let you miss a payment every six months up to 12 times without penalty. So don't have to, you don't have to ignore that mountain of student loan statements that's building up on the kitchen table anymore. Just call 888-Y-REFI 34 888-YREFI 34. That's yrefy.com visit them online yrefy.com we'll be back in just a sec. All right, welcome back, everybody. Andrew Colvin, executive producer of this fine show, Blake Neff in back in Phoenix studio. Blake, did you get any sleep during this event? I feel like I got like five hours of sleep. I am. My mom did that thing again where she's like, you look tired. And I'm like, I know, Mom.

[Blake Neff]

I got a medium amount of sleep, I think.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know.

[Blake Neff]

Now I'm remembering how Charlie said he would get eight or nine a night. Did he do that during AM Festival? It sounds hard to believe, but no.

[Charlie Kirk]

But you know what? He. He would. He would still really discipline. I tried. Don't get me wrong, I tried, but it was, you know, you wake up early, you got 48 urgent things to get done. And. And by the way, I just want to say that the. The team, the. The Turning Point team, the events team, I have. I've gotten just overwhelmed, inundated with people saying that was the. The. The. Just how positive they are, how helpful they were. Everybody has an interaction with the Turning Point staff member at these events, and they need something and they get help, and there's just nobody like it. Nobody in the.

[Blake Neff]

In the.

[Charlie Kirk]

In the space does this. And these are. These are like, from top to bottom, the. The kids that, you know, just got hired, you know, or to the top level staff. There is so much just grassroots humility. And this is a. This is an event to serve the base, to serve everyday Americans. If you walk around those halls, it's just average everyday Americans that love their country that are there to make sure that the. The movement is in a good place, that they want to honor Charlie, honor his memory. And it's just. It's just we the people, man. This event is just we the people. Blake, we do have that clip that you wanted, I believe, set it up for us from J.D. vance.

[Blake Neff]

All right, well, it's 171.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

All right, let's. So it's just. We're trying to figure out what America's identity is. We're trying to figure out what the right's identity is. And that's what a big theme of the event was. And Charlie would always want to be searching for positive identifications. You don't define the right by what things offend you or what things you disagree with or what things make you angry. The best way to build a durable coalition is to find positive, shared things that can unite different peoples. And J.D. vance made a case for one Charlie would agree with. We would agree with America as it's not a nation where everyone is Christian, but it is a Christian nation. Let's play 171.

[Charlie Kirk]

More than any time I can recount, people are talking about American identity and.

[Rich Barris]

Figuring out what it is that unites us.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I want to say something here. The only thing that has truly served as an anchor of the United States of America is that we have been, and by the grace of God, we always will be, a Christian.

[Blake Neff]

And he continued for a bit after that and elaborated on what he meant. It wasn't just a throwaway line. He talks about that not everyone in America is Christian. Many follow other religions. As we know, his own wife is not a Christian. But it's that America is. It's built on this bedrock of Christian values that it undergirds all of American history. It undergirds its founding documents. It's what drove America to become the greatest nation in the world. It's what makes America such a desirable nation today. And even if you are not Christian, you live in a world that is completely pervaded by those Christian values, and that the preservation of them is central to keeping America great. And I think he made a very strong case for that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. You know, he says Christianity is America's creed, the shared moral language from the Revolution to the Civil War and beyond. And I thought that was a beautiful way to sum it up, because, you know, we've been talking about what is an American a lot on this show. Charlie was talking about it, and he was contemplating that notion a lot. And we played clips, or not clips, we showed quotes from Teddy Roosevelt talking about what they believed an American to be in the early 1900s. And that idea is something that we have to contend with generation after generation, especially after the mass migration that we have absorbed as a country over the last 40 years. And I think especially poignant was that moment, because we do have a lot more people in this country that are not Christian. Church attendance rates have dropped among those who used to be Christian. Right. That come from Christian families and heritage and backgrounds. And so for him to go out there and to state definitively, I think, especially given the fact that his own wife is not a professing Christian, was a powerful, powerful moment. And it truly is uniting if you let it, and if you let it be, because it doesn't matter if you profess that same faith, you are drawn to this country because of the freedoms that are afforded us by the fact that our moral framework. Our laws, our customs are built upon the foundation of Jesus Christ and the Christian faith. And that's something that we can never lose sight of. That's something that Charlie never lost sight of. We are a Christian nation. And Amen. Yes, and Amen. And may it always be that way. So here to J.D. vance again, the moral clarity is astounding. We'll be right back.

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[Rich Barris]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

The voice of generations is the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back, everybody. It's the Charlie Kirk show the day after AmFest 2025. Blake, we have to get into the big surprise guest yesterday that I'm, as I'm going through social media right now, it seems the whole world is still talking about. And that is, of course, Nicki Minaj onstage with Erica Kirk. It was a pretty profound moment, I have to say. You know, there was a lot of, you know, people were guessing, was it Elon Musk? Was it. Was it going to be some other person? Was it going to be POTUS himself? Actually, the president called in when Don Jr. Was on stage, and that was a really special moment, but we had even more surprises in store. And that, of course, was Nicki Minaj. Some people might kind of scratch their head a little bit and go like, oh, Nicki, you know, what's. You know, what's. Why would she be invited to something like this? Well, well, I'll tell you why. Because Nicki Minaj has shown a lot of courage, actually. Obviously, she's lived a life that I'm not here to endorse or say is the model for young women. But she showed a lot of courage. And more recently, she's been speaking out and advocating for the persecuted church in Nigeria and helping get even the US Government to take action on our brothers and sisters in Christ that are suffering devastating losses, devastating attacks, and murder. It's persecution in the truest sense of the word. And so, you know, I was honored that she agreed to come on stage. And what I was struck by. Blake, and I'd be curious to get your thoughts on this is, you know, as a huge rap fan that you are, is she. She. That was a joke. In case people are.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, yeah. The radio viewers can't see my grimace right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. No, I'm definitely not a rap fan either, I have to say. But, you know, I do appreciate somebody in her position that's willing to have. To have the courage to speak out and advocate for things that are unpopular in her position. To advocate for, to cut against the grain. I was very impressed also with just the depth of her wisdom. Blake. I, I said to her backstage, I said, I have to be honest, I was surprised at how I was riveted by what you said, how I was hanging on every word that you said, because it felt like you have wisdom that only comes through like kind of a hard knock life, only through hard fought wins and courage and a lot of up in the face of a lot of opposition. That's the only time, you know, somebody can really drop truth on you. And it kind of makes you sit back and you're like, you earned every ounce of this wisdom the hard way. And you can, you can feel that. So what was your take, Blake? And then we'll play some of our clips.

[Blake Neff]

Well, I think let's get into the clips first. I think that's what people who may have missed it want to see. We have quite a few, but let's just start with 129.

[Rich Barris]

I've performed for huge crowds all around.

[Charlie Kirk]

The world, and no matter how many songs I do on that stage, it didn't mean as much as this because.

[Announcer]

This is a direct link for younger people.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is a direct link between young people and God.

[Blake Neff]

That was a good one. And let's, let's see. How about. Let's just start. Let's go into 124.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why now? Have you, have you been involved with speaking about politics? What was kind of the.

[Rich Barris]

The turning point for you? Yeah, what was the turning point?

[Charlie Kirk]

I just got tired of being pushed around.

[Announcer]

Sometimes you just get tired of it and then you realize, wait a minute, I have something inside of me that's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Stronger than what's out there. That's right. So when you've had enough, you realize, wait a minute. This. Why do I even care about these.

[Announcer]

People and what they think?

[Charlie Kirk]

Who are they?

[Announcer]

They don't even know who they are.

[Rich Barris]

So I'm not going to. I'm not going to back down anymore.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm not going to back down ever again. Amen.

[Blake Neff]

Any others you want to do or should we dive into it?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I just want to make a comment really quick. You know, I, I was talking about this with Tyler Boyer, and you know, this is a position that Erica Kirk has not been placed in. A whole lot, honestly, where she's the interviewer on stage. And it was like, you know, she was a mix between, you know, Barbara Walters and, I don't know, and sort of just a godly representation of a woman of Christ. I mean, it was really amazing. And of course, I mean, I don't want to call it the elephant in the room, but, you know, Nikki said something kind of awkward when she was about to praise J.D. vance. And, you know, she called. She was trying to give a compliment to the Vice President because she had just complimented President Trump. She went and complimented J.D. vance, but she used kind of a very awkward word in that setting. Right. I'm sure. I'm sure Blue sky went crazy with it. But Erica Kirk then covered over it with such grace and with such poise. I was sitting back there. I mean, honestly, I got. I was like, ah, what's gonna happen next? And then Erica completely made it okay. And I was just so. I was so impressed, you know, because again, you know, if Charlie's put in those kind of situations, he was. He was a pro. He knew exactly how to handle it and roll with it. But I think Erica did as well as anybody in the whole entire world could have done with that moment. And it didn't even. It, like, in the end of the day, it didn't even matter. And I was just so impressed with her. So. But here. Here was some other things that she did that ended up playing into JD's Vance's speech later when JD was talking about it's okay to be a white American, it's okay to be an Asian American, you don't have to talk around the color of your skin anymore in Trump's America. Let's go ahead and play cut 137, this Nicki Minaj.

[Announcer]

If, as black women, we felt.

[Charlie Kirk]

That we were not being represented and not being.

[Announcer]

Admired for our beauty, if we felt like that as black women, why would we want to do that to other women?

[Charlie Kirk]

Why would we now need to make.

[Announcer]

Other people downplay their beauty so that we can feel. No, that's not how it works. I don't need someone with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty. Do you understand? It doesn't bother me that a woman feels and says that she's beautiful. Why shouldn't she feel that?

[Rich Barris]

Why have we gotten to a point.

[Charlie Kirk]

Where certain colors or certain kinds of.

[Announcer]

People have to be afraid of loving themselves and loving the way they look like? It's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Isn't that wild? Yeah. The Message of everybody is equal before God and we need to stop attacking people for this anti white sentiment. She hit it right on the head. And as a black woman doing that, as a rapper doing that, I thought it was a pretty profound moment of moral clarity. Blake.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it was strong. I did. Like, also, you mentioned the dynamic between her and the vice president where I think JD Vance said he was worried that Nicki Minaj would think he looks like the JD Vance meme face that we've used. And he said he was glad she didn't. But I think it actually would have been funnier if she did. I think it would have been a good clip. She walks in, she's like, you look different from what I was expecting. But can't. Can't win them all. Should we dive into. Should we get into Rob Schneider? I think that was one of the big favors of people.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. During the event, he was one of the people I heard most about, most of the feedback about. Yeah, absolutely.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

You know, someone pointed out that he was really good because he's a comic. Comedians, they need to know when something is discongruent because that. That is what drives comedy. But then as a result, they also know what congruence is. They know how to make a good, serious point. And I've always been very impressed with him when we've had him on the show. He's very good at speaking to faith topics and so on. And he gave a very good testimony about Charlie and about the attacks against him and the attacks against all of us. Let's play 141.

[Charlie Kirk]

The left is trying to reframe Charlie.

[Rich Barris]

Into something he wasn't and by extension.

[Charlie Kirk]

All of us, extremists, Nazis, fascists, white supremacists. By taking moderate people with views held by the majority and turning them into.

[Rich Barris]

Monsters hides the real monsters among us.

[Charlie Kirk]

So when actual extremists show up, people can't tell the difference anymore. Now, here's the warning. If the right doesn't learn from the left's mistakes, if we start embracing our extremists the way the left embraced theirs, we'll go down the same path they did.

[Blake Neff]

And another one, because it's very quick. 142.

[Rich Barris]

Charlie Kirk was only interested in the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pursuit of the divine truth, in love of family and country and freedom, and saving the republic.

[Blake Neff]

It was a good testimony. And I like. I like that line about having to learn from the left because I think. I think that's a lesson we do need to take in that we have to remember one Reason we're blessed enough to be here is that the left had a lot of wild radicals that they indulged and indulged and indulged, and then it boiled over. And I guess we should be grateful that it derailed their movement. But I remember being there in 2019, 2020, 2021, and people saying, yeah, you have to get used to the woke moment. That's going to be. The rest of our lives is going to be totally dominated by these people. And I think he gave a very good spiritual perspective on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, Blake, I think what was really hashed out, again, everybody's got an opinion. Everybody's like, no, we need to shut down these people and block them out. And that's why I thought J.D. vance's speech was so critically important, because it gave that moral clarity, that leadership. As a final speech of the event, it kind of made it all make sense. It crystallized everything and synthesized everything that people had just experienced over the last four days. But what we are trying to do, what Turning Point's always been about, what Charlie's always been about, is finding that dominant center, that core center of the movement, and that is big enough and broad enough and dynamic enough, energized enough to win, right? To win those kind of tough fights that we're going to have in 2026, 2028. So where is that dominant center of the movement, that center cut? And I feel like that was what Rob Schneider was getting at. That was what Glenn Beck was getting at. That was what Jesse Waters was getting at, Greg Gutfeld, and of course, J.D. vance. And then, you know, so it's like you're gonna have people on either end of that center cut, feeling like it needs to go that way more, feeling like it needs to go this way more. But what we. What we. What you saw and what Charlie was always so genius at was finding where that dominant core is. And I feel like we really landed in that good spot.

[Blake Neff]

Well, I think I like all of the clips we got from. From him. So let's. Let's do another Rob think laid that out well. 143.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know about you, but when I voted November 5, 2024, I voted for closed borders.

[Rich Barris]

I voted for affordable groceries. I voted for lower gas prices.

[Charlie Kirk]

I voted for no more censorship.

[Rich Barris]

I voted for no more men in women's sp.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I also voted to blow up small boats off the coast of Venezuela.

[Blake Neff]

What I like best about that is he is basically saying, I voted for the things that President Trump actually promised to do during the campaign because I think so much resentment ends up being driven by people who they decide they wanted things that weren't the campaign issues that everyone agreed on even a year ago.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean here's, here's the big takeaway, Blake. Twitter is not real life. Go to a Turning Point event and find out. We will be right back.

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[Rich Barris]

Only one of you will leave here.

[Announcer]

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[Charlie Kirk]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Announcer]

Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Watch the trailer on trainergames.com it's time for a whole new generation to wise up and rise up. The Charlie Kirk show all right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. You know, it is not every day that you get 31,000 grassroots activists in a space. I mean, these are door knockers, these are phone bankers, these are precinct committeemen. These are the grassroots volunteers that make the whole country work. They are the firewall to freedom. And one of the things that I don't think online you get as much because you get the, you get the sort of more intense statements made by some high profile people, you know, some of the infighting or the division or whatever. One of the things I don't think people appreciate enough, Blake, was just how much Christian faith was shared on that stage and within the people attending the event. And one of the best moments, I believe, is when Matt Shaw, who plays third base for the Chicago Cubs, just a few weeks before Charlie was murdered, I was with Charlie at Wrigley Field and we got to hang out with Matt. Matt is a it was a neighbor of Charlie's in the off season in Phoenix and he came and he got a really amazing question. Let's go ahead and play it. Great. He gave a great answer.

[Rich Barris]

172 how do you share Jesus with your fellow teammates? The best thing that I can do isn't to talk to them and disciple them, but it's to show what my beliefs look like in my life. And sometimes it's not a conversation, but it's simply the light that you Shine around to other people. And because of how much love you have for other people and for Jesus, it's going to show them, hey, maybe this is something I'm interested in. Maybe this is something that can provide me fulfillment in my life. And I hope that for everyone, and.

[Terrence Bates]

I hope it for you.

[Rich Barris]

Camden.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just a. Just a beautiful moment. Really heartfelt, really simple.

[Blake Neff]

It's great. It's great. And I, I'm looking at the same people who. I'm looking now online at the same people who freaked out that he went to the memorial. And of course they're freaked out he went to this in the off season. They're just. There's some really hateful, crappy baseball fans out there. But I'm, I'm very glad we have.

[Charlie Kirk]

Honestly, the loudest critics probably have very sad lives. That's what I've convinced.

[Blake Neff]

Very, very sad.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're gonna be back, right back, we're gonna tell you about Grandma Jeannie. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So, Blake, you know this Grandma Genie from Chico, not to be confused with.

[Blake Neff]

Not to be confused with Chino. Totally different California towns. We have SoCal versus NorCal.

[Terrence Bates]

The.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, this was an amazing, amazing story because she gets accosted as she's working at Target. She was retired. She came out of retirement, we found out, because she loved working with people. And here she is at Target wearing a red freedom shirt with Charlie's name on it, gets accosted, said that she's a racist, said that she's all these terrible things. And she just handled it with such grace and humility. And, of course, the Internet went wild, wondering if we were going to have Jeannie at Turning Point. And, I mean, I had reached out to her multiple other people. Glenn Beck had reached out to her, Jack Posobic and Benny Johnson. And so we were going to get Jeannie at Amfest. There was, come hell or high water, we were gonna get Jeannie to. To Am Fest. And there's a beautiful moment here with Glenn Beck with Jeannie on stage. Let's go ahead and play cut 173. She said she didn't understand why everybody was asking her for a selfie. Can. What you're curious about, what you don't.

[Rich Barris]

Understand, because I'm just a normal person. And that is why you're here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay? This is. We were talking backstage, and I said, when I was young, when I was your age, when she was your age, there wouldn't have been somebody like this up on stage, because it was the normal thing to do.

[Rich Barris]

Now it's not.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I. I just.

[Terrence Bates]

I wanted to thank you for being normal.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you for being normal.

[Blake Neff]

Thank you for being normal. Okay. All right. I should shout out, by the way, because we mentioned it on the last thing her give Send go is up to $285,000. And if any of you feel inclined to donate to that, it's givesendgo.com Genie from Target. G E A N I e. Again, that's GiveSendGo.com Genie from Target. Give that a look. Maybe we can get that over 300. But we were super glad to see you here. I think that was a great moment.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was a great moment. And again, just everyday people, that's what this event is about. And, you know, I. I spoke with Jeannie backstage, and I just said, you know, are you gonna go back to work for Target? And, you know, she's like, well, you know, if I can. And I. Her daughter was with her, and I said. I said, jeannie, you know, I hope you'll. Cause there was some concern that she would refuse the money. And I told her daughter, I said, don't you dare let her refuse the money. Like, she's. She's just. I mean, no more deserving.

[Blake Neff]

We don't care what she does with it, but she shouldn't refuse it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. I just told. I told Jeannie, I said, do something nice for yourself with it. Like, God bless you. Like, take, like, do something nice. You know, whether that's like fully retire or take a trip or whatever it is. Like, we people wanted to bless you and don't deny them of the blessing of blessing you. And she was really sweet about it, and just a very, very sweet, sweet moment. And she also went up on stage with Jack Posobec and Benny Johnson. That was the big reveal. And then I love that Glenn got a chance on Sunday to bring her back out onto stage. Yeah, you can see the B roll right there. Benny Johnson and Jack. And she's. She's just sitting there kind of going, why does everybody care about me so much? And. And I think Glenn said it well, because you're normal. Because in a world gone mad, Jeannie, you are normal. And you're sweet and you're kind, and you. You don't repay hatred with more hatred. You, You. You repaid it with graciousness. And it was just a beautiful model.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, that was the best thing about what she did. She doesn't. She doesn't own the woman who was filming her in some dramatic way. She was just she was just very kind to her and really acquitted herself very well in a very Christian way. We're getting some great emails by the way from some of you who were at Amfest or were merely watching it. I love. Claire just sent us one into the inbox. So send us stuff at Freedom. We're looking at it. I would like to take a minute to tell you how fabulous, totally fabulous this past weekend was. And looking at the magnificent crowd that gathered to honor Charlie. I want to give a shout out. She gives a shout out to Glenn Beck as well as to Erica coming out with Nikki. She says Rob Schneider was equally amazing. It was an uplifting weekend and the youth that were represented there were totally inspirational and dynamic. It was the best of the best and I admire everybody in the Turning Point family who put that program together. I wish I was there to witness it. Well, pre sales I believe. I think I got an email from Turning Point yesterday that Pre sales for 2026 have opened. So we'd love to have you next year. Claire and anyone else who has thoughts, please send them in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there were so many people by the way and I've reposted some of them on my my X feed if you want to check it out there. But you know, as a first time attendee, this is from Walter Kurt. I can confidently say this was the best political event I ever attended. Your staff was nothing but friendly and helpful from the second I walked in to the moment I left. I will never miss another one. You should all be proud. Charlie would be. And Amen. That's a good note to end our one on. We hope we did Charlie proud. It was a lot going on. We hope we did him proud. Rich Barris in the straw poll comes up in hour two.

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice News Break. I'm Terrence Bates, Chronic Pain affects millions of Americans. In fact, many spend thousands of dollars a year managing their conditions with prescription drugs. But there are alternatives.

[Charlie Kirk]

I remember waking up in the morning, everything hurt. There wasn't a part of me that didn't hurt. I was watching Wayne Allen Root, and he talked about Energized Health. And I thought, what do I have to lose? So I did a 555. This program is absolutely changing my life. My Achilles pain since three years ago has never gone away. All of a sudden, I had none. I've gone from taking three narcotic pain medications a day in the last three weeks. I've taken zero. Because they're doing God's work here, that's for sure.

[Terrence Bates]

John Jubilee from Energized Health here to explain how his system can potentially change your life. John, good morning.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good morning, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

So, look, chronic pain is a thing. It's something that so many people deal with, and you're able to address it at the very root or the cellular level. I guess I should be more accurate. Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, that's totally it, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

And you know, and what's amazing is.

[Charlie Kirk]

The amount of people, Terrence, millions and millions of people have come to believe they've been programmed to believe that pain is just a part of life, that.

[Terrence Bates]

They'Re just going to be in pain.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's nothing they can do about it. They're going to take medication. Like, you heard this, this lady. So imagine she was years on a very, you know, a very dangerous medication. Actually, pain medication is dangerous to be on for a long time. But when you go to the root cause, Terrence, the root cause of all pain is one thing.

[Blake Neff]

It's inflammation.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so when you address the inflammation.

[Terrence Bates]

And you flush that out of the body. So just picture your cellular hydration is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like a river of living water flushing out pollution out of a river. That's what cellular health does to inflammation. It flushes it out and no more pain.

[Terrence Bates]

And again, your program teaches people how to go about doing that. Explain how people can get in contact with you to at very least start the process.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, listen, here's what I'd encourage everybody.

[Blake Neff]

First of all, just enjoy your holiday. But in the midst of your holiday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Know that you already have a plan after the holiday. So, Terrence, when we do our 555 challenge that is designed for Chelsea and I, we sit here and we spend five days, you know, just about an hour a day, 45 minutes, actually. 45 minutes a day for five days.

[Blake Neff]

We'Ll share with you the science of intracellular Hydration.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is a patent pending science, fully medically approved. Terrence, we have trained hundreds of doctors, hundreds of doctors that we have trained with this science. And Terrence, they say, they say you guys crack the code. You know how to reverse pain, you know how to reverse illness. You're going to the root cause. This is what we should have learned in med school. So come and join us. Just get yourself registered, then enjoy your holiday and you'll know, Hey, I got a plan. After Christmas, after my holiday, it's the first week of January. We're doing a 555 challenge. So just go get yourself registered. And Terrence, I would encourage people go ahead and do your up level to the vip. And the biggest reason to do that is you get extra time with Chelsea and I. But we're also going to FedEx you a bioimpedance device that's going to measure your intracellular hydration so that you know, where am I starting at? So you can get where you really want to go.

[Terrence Bates]

And the website for people to go and log on and go ahead and get ready for the My555 challenges there on our screen. My555challenge.com Correct.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's it.

[Terrence Bates]

All right, folks, go ahead and log on. Wishing you and the family a happy holidays, of course. Merry Christmas, my friend. And just kudos to you for all the lives that you've been able to change through the work that you and your wife are doing. Thank you guys so much for that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, it's the joy of our life. Terrence and I would encourage people don't continue to live in pain.

[Rich Barris]

Don't listen.

[Blake Neff]

God says my people perish for lack of knowledge.

[Charlie Kirk]

So come and get the knowledge so you can be set free and beloved above all things. I want you to be in health. It's in your bible. So let's get you healthy this year. 2026, let's go.

[Terrence Bates]

There you go. Love that. 2026 is your year. My555challenge.com the information is there on your screen, folks. Log on and get healthier in this coming year.

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[Rich Barris]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Watch the trailer on trainer games.com. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway and it is the hour that everybody's been waiting for. The results of our 2025 Turning Point Action Amfest Drop poll. So this is something we do at every AM fest and we've got the, we've got a major publication that's going to go live with it in just a second as well. And here to unpack what we found from this straw poll poll is the one and only Rich Barris big data poll who conducted it on our behalf. Rich, welcome back to the show.

[Rich Barris]

Thanks for having me as always.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Well, Rich, let's, let's start, let's start with your, your reaction, your experience at amfest. You were there. You, you and Mark Mitchell led a breakout. Just, you know, 30,000 foot view. What was it like in there? And maybe what, what's the disconnect between maybe what some people are saying online versus what you experienced in person? Person?

[Rich Barris]

Well, first, visually, and I know I actually notice to be a fact, but visually, this looked like the biggest AM fest ever. And you could see it if you've been to an AM fest before, this one was just as a matter of attendance. And everything that was going on was huge. It was huge. So congratulations on that because we're talking about a massive attendance, folks. And secondly, you know, the biggest thing that'll stand out is, you know, the, the media narrative and the infighting that they projected was going on over there. And we'll see this with the results of the straw poll.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Rich Barris]

People debate and that's what turning point has always been about. But people there, people in attendance. Right. And the, and the folks who were talking and interacting with people agree on so much more. And I mean, that's what it comes down. That's the biggest disconnect that the media as usual poll always projects there was a lot more agreement than there was just, you know, disagreement.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And you so some top level marks that you were just telling me about is. So this was the youngest straw poll result based on just who took the poll. Right. It was, it skewed the youngest of any that we've ever had because you know, even we struggle sometimes, Rich, with getting the students to take the darn straw poll. This time we got lots, lots that just the average age of who took the poll was younger. So it's Actually going to give us a more interesting insight in some ways about where younger Americans, younger conservative voters, younger, younger base voters, where their heads are at right now. And it was also the most response responses that we've ever gotten at a straw poll. And what's remarkable about that, Rich, is that, you know, we intentionally delayed this until we sent it out overnight after day three and into day four. We wanted people to have this full experience before we asked them these questions. So, so the response rate on a relatively short turn was pretty remarkable. What. Just explain that from a, from a pollsters perspective. Rich.

[Rich Barris]

Well, straw polls can be a bit of a pollsters nightmare, right? Because as the pollster you're like, I want to start early, I want to get this going. But you also want people to have the experience before they answer some of these questions. And honestly, it'll become very evident when we show people some of the questions, right? Why we want people to hear things first, first, which can be challenging because for people who are taking it and the pollster, because you are now limiting yourself on the reaction time. So we expect a certain percentage and just from experience, we know what that is. This blew up and you said it, and I was going to say it if you didn't. This is the biggest America Fest strong straw poll ever. It's a very large sample, which means folks, it's representative, it's, it's statistically significant in. So I was over the moon, you know, I mean, as a, as a pollster, I was over the moon when I, you know, one minute you're logging in, you're seeing the responses come in, the next minute you see an explosion. So I think too it also tells you that the respondents, Andrew, also were kind of hanging back and saying, let me, you know, let me open it up. I'll take what I think I can. We always give people a little bit of time to complete it and then once they had the experience, they felt it was sufficient for them. They, they, they all filled it out almost at once. On that last day, a huge amount came in which was great for us. It really was great.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, you know, I'm toying with, Everybody wants to know the, the who do we want as our 2028 GOP nominee? I don't think anybody's, you know, I'm toying with delaying it, but I think we just have to, you know, I think we just have to do the reveal here. Rich. Yeah, what, what is not surprising is who won, but what is surprising is by what margin. So you know, drum roll Please. Studio. Let's go ahead and throw up. Image 166. Who does the Amfest attendees? Who do they want as their 2028? GOP228. And that big old bar right at the top is, of course, J.D. vance. The next closest was Marco Rubio, the great Secretary of State and the Trump administration. Rich, break this down. J.D. vance is by. Is running away with the who do we want as the 2028 GOP nominee. Explain the significance of that, of that.

[Rich Barris]

Graph and the consistency of him polling at that level. I don't think he ever pulled below 75%, folks. That's well over a super majority. And I will tell you this. Like we said just a moment ago, there were people who were waiting back, waiting to see. And when the Vice President gave his speech, it just went to that level. Never looked back. I mean, it was, you know, some people, you know, sitting back, I can't wait to see what the Vice President has to say. This has never happened, Andrew. This is never. I've done a lot of straw polls at a lot of different events. We've done a lot of Amfest ones, right? This has never happened. There has never been such widespread agreement over. Because what are they really telling you when they're picking who they want for the future nominee?

[Terrence Bates]

Right?

[Rich Barris]

What is the base? What is the turning point family telling you? This is the direction we want to go in the future. This is what we want for the future of the movement, for the future of the party. And there, you know, the media wanted to talk about all of the different factions in the, in the coalition. Right. This is. Is near. You know, it's nearly unanimous. It's overwhelming. And we asked a lot of other questions. It doesn't matter what the answers for different demographic groups, how one favored other something over the other. It doesn't matter. When it comes to this question, who do you want for your nominee? Everybody is in agreement. There's not a single group that's disconnected or has a different opinion. You know, always into statistics, you're always going to have marginal support for something over another. Right? I mean, that's just the way it works. Works. This is about as uniformity as you get close to uniformity as you get.

[Charlie Kirk]

So just so people have the exact numbers. It's 84.2% chose J.D. vance. Yeah, 4.8%. So just under 5% chose Marco Rubio, 2.9% chose Ron DeSantis, 1.8% chose Don Jr.3% chose Ted Cruz, and 0.4% chose Junkin. I'm not sure why the orders got swept swapped there, there. But so that is basically the field, you know, undecided was at 2.5% and that we had 3.1% write ins. Right. So I don't know if there was anybody worth mentioning in the write in section, Rich, but that, that is, you know, the field that people most predict for 2028.

[Rich Barris]

There is something worth worth mentioning. All right. And that is there is, there are more than a few responses for Donald J. Trump for a third term. Right. But again, I mean you're going to get that some that just shows you how much the president is loved right. By the base. But there's outside of that, you know, there's a representation to libertarian wing. You get a few for Thomas Massie and stuff like that. But it's not, you know, you can see the percentage guys collectively what that comes to. It's still not that much. I mean this poll, the results of this poll are very clear. We don't get results like this. It just doesn't happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey Rich, I have a question. In the history of a turning point straw poll that you've conducted, have we ever seen a question like this get, you know, have a front runner with this much margin of victory?

[Terrence Bates]

Nope.

[Rich Barris]

That's what I was just about to say. Especially, I mean could you imagine this early? We did turning point straw polls going into 24 even and it was a robust field. There's some pretty significant debate between who do we want Ron DeSantis, do we want President Trump? President Trump was always winning that and winning it overwhelmingly. But this early particularly, it's not because we don't have a vision of where other candidates would take the party. Andrew, that's not what's going on here. It's that people do understand the differences in whatever minor major they may be. They understand it. They are choosing J.D. vance. They're choosing the vice president.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep. Well, we have much, much more from the straw pole to get to. We're going to get Blake's take on it as well. That we asked a bunch of questions. Much more to unpack with Rich Barris. We will be right back.

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[Rich Barris]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Watch the trailer on trainergames.com 100% American made and darn product. The Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back, everybody. Yeah, Blake, I want to bring you in here real quick. You know, a lot of people are going to make a lot of noise after this weekend because of what, you know, J.D. vance. It feels like it's all this proxy war. If you go on Twitter. Right. It's all it's all about is J.D. vance embracing extremism. We have some results from this, this poll that will show that that's not really happening more broadly. But what's your take of what you're. The chatter you're seeing online?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I think it's a good reminder of how the bases because as we said in the first hour, there's a lot of things that are. Are very, very big on, on X, on other social media and the base when they're at our events. It's actually much more locked in on those core issues. There's much less bad blood. There's much less fixation on what I would say might be secondary issues. As an example we threw into this, we had a question to the attendees. How do you view the nation of Israel? And there's a lot of people who have said we should be very anti reveal yet that's. We can't reveal that yet. I have to wait on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

We got to welcome back radio first.

[Rich Barris]

But.

[Charlie Kirk]

But it was surprising.

[Blake Neff]

It was a little surprised. Okay, I've got to wait a minute. But yes, we.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'll let you do it, Blake, when we.

[Sponsor Representative]

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right.

[Blake Neff]

Thank you. Thank you. But yeah, it's like what do you think is the Trump top accomplishment? And there's 60% securing the border. They remember that. That securing the border is a. Is a big deal. It's what he ran on. It's the accomplishment we should be most proud of. And they remember it and they're very proud of it. And, and they, they want. I almost wish we'd asked what you want to do without winning the midterms because it dominated so hard. But it does show that very straightforward focus. They want to win the midterms and you know, there's not. And then the issues they had after that are the ones that I think you would intuitively think should be what the right cares about the most, what makes the most sense to go after. I just think there's a lot of loopiness out there and you don't see it in this poll.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep, that's. That's well said. Welcome back. Radio in three seconds. Don't go anywhere. All right. Love the Christmas music, love the Christmas. Charlie loved Christmas and we love Christmas around here. So Merry Christmas to all of you. We are a mere three days out from the big day. Very excited about that. So Blake, I promised you that you were going to get to do the big reveal. It is about to be about ready to be thrown up. So I don't know. You want to take it away?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, yeah, it'll be ready by the time get to it. We were, we actually work shopping what questions to put into the straw pole. We just did it the night, I think Saturday night we were talking about what to put into it and obviously we had the stuff. We've had had debates over the past year about America's relationship with Israel, how it relates to stuff in the Middle East. We had people bring it up on stage. It was a recurring theme in our member exclusives interviews. So we just said throw in to the attendees. What best describes what your view of Israel is? Do you view them as our number one ally, as just one ally of many, or do you think they're not an American ally, which some prominent figures have said? And do we have that result ready to throw up? Yeah, let's throw up.178 and. And I think the result was pretty refreshing. You got, you said 33% said it was a top. Our top ally, 53% went for one of many and 13% said not an ally, which I think you mentioned. It is the youngest group we've had at Amfest. And I think it does put into perspective I think one ally of many that gets an outright majority. I think that would probably describe the position Charlie was in the over the last couple years, that they are a friendly country, they're a country we care about, but they're not necessarily this mono maniacal focus that we must be fixated on to the exclusion of other potential allies. And I think this also shows only 13% say not an ally, that they're a hot, you know, basically at best a neutral or perhaps even a hostile country to us. This is a take you hear a lot online. It's a take you hear a lot on X. It's a take take some influencers really push. But I don't think it's really, it's taking over the GOP in the way that a lot of critics have tried to argue.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, so. So, Rich, if you go online, you would be entirely surprised by the fact that it within, you know, a statistically significant sample of the youngest and the youngest sample set that we've ever had from an Amfest straw poll poll that 13.3% like you. If you went online, you would think it would be like 50, 50. What do you make of, of this poll result and what's your message to the GOP with this in mind?

[Rich Barris]

You know, neither Laura or I were surprised by this and we were thinking and comparing it to what we see and really it's been a trend with the general public, not just among, you know, the base of the Republican Party. Look, the Internet is real, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's really representative. Right. I mean, that's the difference. People have to, to keep reminding themselves when they see these narrative wars and these pushes online. This is basically representative too of what we heard walking around and talking to people. I mean, Andrew, and same thing with winning the midterms, by the way. That was the number one question I got walking around, talking with different people. They would say, oh, this is, you know, great, and I understand the debate, but we really, you know, what can we do to win? We want to win. That was overwhelming just walking around the place. So a lot of this didn't surprise me. I do think though, that it is a bit of a wake up call to, you know, the older guard of the GOP who are used to, they become. There's an expectation, you know, that Israel will get a always, you know, like a bit of a privileged or special place in the conversation. And that's not where the future really sees are, you know, when it comes to, you know, where we prioritize our public, our foreign policy. That's just not the future that people see, especially among younger people. So that's something they'll have to come to grip with. But it doesn't mean there's this outward hatred or anti Semitism. It's just like, hey, look, we have been put last for a very long time. We just want to be put first. And we don't really think that, you know, questioning the old orthodoxy or the right is, is a bad thing. And I'm not necessarily sure it is myself, Andrew, you know, to be honest.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, totally. I, I share some of that. I think you, you articulated it well. And in hour one, Rich, I said, you know what's interesting about Amfest and Turning Point in these conferences. We're looking to define the dominant core of a winning coalition.

[Rich Barris]

Right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right. The dominant center cut. And so you're gonna get these really loud voices that want us to be anti Israel. You're gonna get these really loud voices that want us to, you know, essentially say that Israel is the most important topic, you know, that there is because it's a proxy war for other things. Whatever. What we found here is that, you know, what I, my, my takeaway from this poll, Rich, was that maybe a couple years ago, maybe 5, 10 before October 2023, October 7, that you maybe would have seen that chunk that said it's our top ally be a little larger. And where it looks like the consensus of the movement is really going is that hey, Israel is an ally and they're but they're one of many. And so let's just put our own country first. I think that is the new consensus that is emerging on the right and that's an important insight to glean from this. I really believe that we're going to have to take a break here, Rich. We got a number of other insights that are really, really important about Trump's top accomplishments, the top threats facing the nation. There are key insights coming up from the the 2025amp Fest drop Poll. Don't go anywhere.

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news Break. I'm Terrence Bates. This year's edition of TPUSA's AM Fest is in the books, but the first AM Fest without Charlie Kirk features some unexpected guests. Sunday it was rapper Nicki Minaj taking the stage and offering praise for President Trump and his administration.

[Charlie Kirk]

This administration.

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Is full of people with.

[Charlie Kirk]

Heart and soul and they make me proud of them. Our Vice President P makes me well, I I love both of them, but they're both powerful men.

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Smart, strong, all of that. But both of them have a very uncanny ability to be someone that you relate to.

[Terrence Bates]

By the way, that was Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, conducting the interview. Minaj has recently become a supporter of President Trump, despite one time being a very public critic of him and his policies. Now she appears to be fully on board the MAGA train. Happening today, a federal judge will hear arguments about whether Kilmar Abrego Garcia should be required to or should be returned. Excuse me, to immigration custody. He was set free just over a week ago with a judge ruling that no valid removal order was in place for him to be kept and for him to be deported. You may remember Abrego Garcia was sent to prison in El Salvador, but then returned to the United States under a judge's order. It also turns out that Abrego Garcia immigrated to the United States as a teenager, but was protected from deportation to his home country of El Salvador because he faced danger from gangs there. Since the government can't deport him to El Salvador, the administration has tried to pursue deportations to Uganda, Liberia, Ghana, and Costa Rica. Today's hearing centers around the government's argument that with or without a final deportation order, the process to remove Abrego Garcia from the country continues and thus he should remain in custody. That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show where truth lives. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to tell you guys about our friends over TikTok. Good conversation is about respect. It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be heard. Charlie believe that this turning point knows this. And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other. That's the key. Learning from each other. When ideas meet respect, good idea, good things happen. On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem many of us wouldn't even know the name for. Or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers. Viewers who listen, discuss and respond. TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding. You can feel it. The comments and to thank you from a stranger halfway across the world. TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion and discussion helps us build something real. Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are brought to you in part by TikTok. All right, without further ado, Rich, we got to get to these. These other. These other polls. Okay. These other poll questions, and I think they're really important. So we've already kind of mentioned what are the. The most important topics for people. Blake kind of already did the big reveal. 165. The winning the midterms is the most important by far. Let's go ahead and show that image. 165. All right. See how much it stands out. It's like, you know, it's a sore thumb. Right there. It is by far and away the. The number one topic. And to Blake's point, it kind of had me wishing we wouldn't have. Have done that that just so we could have seen what the other ones. But what we see behind it are voter integrity, voter ID at 9.3%, the affordability crisis, which I'm not surprised at, at 8.1%, mass deportations, 5.3% and accounted accountability for deep state lawfare at 4.2%. Rounding out the top five issues.

[Blake Neff]

It's really interesting.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, go ahead, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

That ending the war in Ukraine dead last, I think. What is that? 0.4%. It's well under 1%.

[Charlie Kirk]

And yeah, I noticed that, too. Ending the war in Ukraine is the. Is the last. Is the last, I think, because we're not sending them money like we used to be. I mean, that's what really, I think brought it home for people is it felt like we're in these. We're running these huge deficits, we've got this huge tax burden, the economy sucks, and we're spending all our money on a war, you know, abroad to fight. Fight Putin.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, well, we are still sending them ahead.

[Charlie Kirk]

Rich.

[Rich Barris]

Well, well, I was just going to say, I think it's indicative of two things. One is how many problems people think that we have.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Rich Barris]

That has to get before that because I don't think there's much support out there for the Ukraine war anymore. And then two is, I do think, and I'm just from speaking to people about this, I think everybody pretty much sees the ends in sight. It's really kind of only a matter of time. Time among the base anyway. They definitely do. Whereas, you know, the public. That's a little bit. That would be a different result if we were polling the general public. But as far as the. That, you know, not adding the winning the midterms, I do hear what you guys are saying, but in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, I think I am glad we did this way because it does show that despite again what the media narrative was or was trying to spin at the end of the day, like the turning point family wants to win despite everything that they tried to showcase is division. They want to win. And the number the reason for that is simple because they know what's unlike maybe some of the middle of the country, middle of the road in the and less, you know, politically active, you know, parts of our coalition, they don't understand what's going to happen if Democrats win. You know, I mean that's what it comes down to. While the base does. They know what, what, you know, what kind of turbulence, if that's even the appropriate word we're in for, you know, what's on the horizon there.

[Charlie Kirk]

But people get it. They get it. Let's go ahead and throw this one. I thought was really, really surprised me actually. And this was the. What are the biggest threats.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Facing the country. Let's go ahead and throw up. 164 biggest threats facing America right now. And up at the top now this was a rank order poll so people could go one through whatever the number was and by far radical Islam. Rich, did this surprise you? Radical Islam surprised me. And then socialism, Marxism is number two. Mass migration number three.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah, you know what? It it did a little. But then when I was looking at it, I thought this. The first two that really are at the top of the rank distribution are ideologies that the base feels are just not compatible with the American ideals, the American way of life. And then everything else kind of is stem. Yes, there are problems, there are social problems, there are economic problems. But if we could tackle this other thing first, which is that fundamentally we've been letting in a lot of people who are not really compatible or not, you know, that. And some of those other problems are stemming from that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Rich Barris]

So yeah, I mean I, I did see where they were, where they were coming from with this. And then when after you get past rank two into rank three through five, we start to see, you know, those other, you know, more traditional things that we would expect people to say. So, you know, given that of course, large faith based, you know, obviously this is a, where there's a population that is extremely Christian. So, so they're extremely pro America, extremely nationalist. So they're looking at some of these ideas that over in the long term. Andrew, it's almost like some of the other things are just symptoms to a greater problem and we deal with the greater problem.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, what's your take on, on the top five here?

[Blake Neff]

I number one is just A big testament, frankly, to Charlie, who was really fixated on that topic in the last few months of his life. He talked about it a lot, lot. And I think he deserves some credit for really bringing it back. In some ways, you could say it feels like a time warp to 2002 or something. And then we went through a pretty long period where it was more in the background, yet it still remains a concern. And the reason it's a concern is because of issue number three, mass migration. We still.

[Sponsor Representative]

Right.

[Blake Neff]

We went to fight them over there so that we could then import them over here and then have to fight them here again, again. And Charlie really saw that when he was in the uk he was really becoming concerned. It was hitting him. We're going to have this very large, often very radical Islamic component to Western societies that just did not exist before 15, 20 years ago. And I think he really did a lot of work to spread that awareness among the base. Besides that, I think it's really interesting that that corrupt courts, so to speak, has broke into the top five. That's expressing this realization that the biggest obstacle to a lot of President Trump's core agenda, certainly on mass deportations or dei, is this fact. There's just judges who seem to have really taken it to heart that even if they have no legal basis, no constitutional basis for what they're doing, they can gum up the process for years on end. If you need the Supreme Court to step in for anything the President wants to do, do, you can really slow down the agenda in a big way. I was most surprised. Besides, I was really surprised that Low fertility finished second from last. That was a big topic Charlie's talked about. It's a big thing. A lot of people have talked about the need to revive the American family, the need for people to have more kids, but we didn't successfully get it out of the basement on this poll. It was right there, just only above technology and AI. As a concern for American America.

[Rich Barris]

Can I. Can I just add something to that real quick? Because I was too. I was stunned by that. And then I remembered that Benny gave this blockbuster speech, and on the big screen, he threw up this graph showing a recovery in fertility rates, especially among right Christians in general. And I thought, I hope that didn't impact that, because it showed. It showed that there has been a lot of improvement in recent years as opposed to what was, and I still believe is a. An existential threat to our culture, to our way of life, to our, you know, being able to, in perpetuity, continue the American experience. So I thought about it and I said, well, there was that and that speech was attended. That was a, that was a boring. He really, he lit the house on fire with. That is great. But I wonder if that didn't have something to do with it or people in general aren't thinking that we're making more progress with, with it. But like Blake, I think that's something that, you know, myself included, I mean, we need to keep an eye on because, you know, while there has been progress, it's not nearly enough.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to go to another one here, Rich. And this is a, this was a fascinating one. Pick for your approval rating of various members of the Trump Cabinet. And I think some people might be surprised at who came out on top. You know, I thought for sure it was going to be Secretary Ruby video. But let's go ahead and throw up 163 and the way that walk, walk with the audience through Rich, how you had people answer this, this question.

[Rich Barris]

So it was basically the same way that a pollster will ask about the approval for the president, only this time he said, look, we want to ask about the cabinet members one by one, tell us whether you approve or disapprove. And of course gave them the answer, the, the option for strongly, somewhat. And can I just go ahead. Oh, it's up. So I can just go ahead and say, say, look, Secretary Hegset, Pete blew it away. 83% who strongly approve of the job that he's doing. I mean, overall, with the exception of a few here and there, Pam Bondi stands out. Others are just not as well known. Right. And they're not in the public light as much. Like Doug Bargum, for instance, for the exception of a few, the cabinet members are doing well. RFK did extremely well. Robert Kennedy extremely. I mean, point incredible. But Hegseth definitely came out on top here. Secretary Rubio did, did strong as well, but strongly approved for him was 79. But it really does come out, you know, I think it's the fighting spirit, Andrew. You know, when the media comes after him and says, we're gonna, we're gonna, this is a war crime. We're gonna impeach you for this. He says, yeah, and I'm gonna smoke another narco terrorist. I mean, this guy you got, the base wants their leaders to fight.

[Terrence Bates]

Fight.

[Rich Barris]

They want their leaders to fight for them. They want them to fight back. And Pete Hecsife fights back.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, yeah, I mean, that's exactly right. You know who surprised me on this as well was and I was, I was looking was Secretary Kristi Noem, Department of Homeland Security. I actually thought she performed extraordinarily well in this poll. And I had been hearing that maybe she wouldn't perform as well in this poll. So she got 72.8% percent strongly approved, 17.3% somewhat approve. Right. And so that, that people love deportations, Rich. Yeah, they love the deportations.

[Rich Barris]

That's what it comes down to. And I was thinking much along the lines of what you just said, but she's a part of what people see to be Trump's biggest success or a part of that entire issue.

[Charlie Kirk]

And on that note. Yeah, Rich, why don't we just throw it, throw it up. The 169 Trump 2.0 biggest accomplishments. We have a minute left in this segment and it's deportations and securing the border. I mean, one and two, those are the things people are most happy about.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah, it's overwhelming. And you know what? On this note, and I know we're getting close to the end of the segment, on this note, the administration is starting to do a better job of reminding the American people, people about this accomplishment. The base knows, the base is giving him credit for it. He's got to do a little bit better. They know that it's good that he's trying because unfortunately, it's a sad testament to the American voter. When you fix a problem, they forget. And you have to constantly remind them that remember what it was. The president did that in his speech. The other, the primetime speech, by the way, and that was the right move.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good work. All right, one more segment here as we unpack the straw poll and do a little Christmas shout out as well. Well, more with Rich Barris. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.

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[Rich Barris]

Yeah, the point was a lot of after you got past that, you know, first and second tier, a lot of it was about affordability and maybe people, you know, are worried or concerned about being able to afford to have a lot of children. Right. Or, or other people's ability to have other children. So you put, put that stuff first in your mind when you're considering, you know, these as priorities. And I hadn't thought about that point, but it's probably some of that has to do with it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I think you're right. I think affordability, I mean, also, you know, the thing that occurs to me in that particular venue with those particular people, there's so many babies and kids running around, you know, like, probably those, those people think, you know, we're going to have a lot of babies. That's not our top concern. So that's my other theory on that. We have one more big reveal from the straw poll to get to, and I think it's a pretty big insight. We'll Be right back. All right, welcome back. Final segments of the Charlie Kirk show. The day after AM Fest 2020 in Phoenix, Arizona, 31,000 Patriots strong. And we have the most responded to youngest by way of average age of the respondent straw poll that we are unpacking with big data poll Rich Barris, the pollster that conducted the poll on our behalf. And this one, Rich, I think I'm just gonna say it backstage. I had a conversation with a very important person that we're mapping out 2020, 26 in the midterms. And I'm telling you, you've got this issue of base fatigue or maybe lack of enthusiasm, whatever it is. We saw this with some of the special elections. We struggle in off years. The question is, how do you get people energetic? And I looked at the early results on this question, this next one, and I said, I'm telling you, I know people are terrified of it. I know that the rank and File Republican in D.C. is terrified of it. The base wants this. If you want to drive base turns turnout, lean into this issue. Find a way to thread the needle so you don't freak out. You know, the people, you know that are in these contested elections, I'm sure. But I'm telling you, this will drive turnout. I think it's a winner even among some Democrats that don't want to even admit it or independents that don't want to admit it. They don't necessarily want to say it out loud. We asked the question, Rich, would you support an immigration moratorium? Go up and go ahead and throw up. 168. This did way better than even I anticipated. 168. Look at that number. The 90%, 90% of the attendees at America Fest, which again is, these are the grassroots. This is like the plumbers, the electricians. These are everyday people that attend this and lots of students. They want an immigration moratorium. Now, I am not naive. I know that the Republicans in Congress are not ready to tackle this issue. I strongly encourage you to reconsider. Consider your, your appetite for this issue ahead of the midterms. Rich, what's your takeaway here?

[Rich Barris]

Yeah, I would say suck it up, buttercup. I mean, if you remember when President Trump posted that he would do the moratorium, we actually pulled that even nationally and it did extremely well. That was right before Tennessee, the special election in Tennessee. 7. And if you remember, Emerson had a poll. It was very close. It was only two points. And then we, I came on the show to tell you that once he did that, how much? Much extremely Enthusiastic and certainty to vote jumped by double digits. And I do attribute that larger margin than some people expected to have come from giving him a little bit of a shot. A wake up call to the base, wake up call to the voters. This is popular. Not only is it popular, I mean, look at some of the other questions. You know, mass migration is viewed as an existential threat to people. So to have this as a backbone issue, which you can now then deliver an economic message out of. Right. Like so many of our problems come from this, this immigration issue basically being broken since Hart Cellar. Right. So this is a gold mine, Andrew, a gold mine. So I, I mean, strongly suggest I would tell them, you got to do it. You want to win, do it, lean into it, make it the case.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, sorry. Yeah, it's just, just. Yeah, I honestly, when I saw it get 90%, my. The first question that came to mind was, do they all know what a moratorium is? But.

[Charlie Kirk]

Because, I mean, listen, go ahead.

[Blake Neff]

It shows the energy for the base because in practice, would a full moratorium, would it really have 90% support? I'm not sure. I kind of like the idea, but I'm also, I realized that would be. Be pretty dramatic for a lot of people. But I think it shows the energy on this. It shows how people are enthusiastic to see a sea change on immigration, that there's really been an expansion of what people see is possible in American politics. Oh, you actually can secure your border. You actually can deport people, especially criminals, people who hate America and so on. And so people are also entertaining. Oh, you actually can then stop. You don't need to let people into your country necessarily. That that's a choice that you can make.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Rich Barris]

Also had horrific scandals lately. Right. That highlighted some of these Somalians. Right. In Minnesota. And there are others. Right. They haven't gotten as much media attention, but people are seeing this, you know, when they open up their social media, they are seeing this. And again, we did poll a very similar question nationally and it got 55. So support. So, you know, I think that people are at a point where they understand that this thing has been kind of like a runaway, you know, car for years. Somebody's got to pump the brake until we figure out what it is we, until we get our hands on what has happened and what needs to happen going forward because we just. How much more of this can we take? Right. How much more of this?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, Rich, thank you for partnering with us at Turning Point Action, getting this, this poll done, the straw poll done. And I think the results are wonderfully revealing about where again that core center winning coalition is ideologically where they're at on the issues, where they're at on Trump, where they're at on Vance, where they're out on the cabinet. Well done my friend and thank you for joining us for this hour.

[Rich Barris]

Thank you and Merry Christmas guys. All the best.

[Charlie Kirk]

Merry Christmas Rich. Merry Christmas to all of you as well out there. We'll see you tomorrow. Another show before for Christmas.

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