The Charlie Kirk Show, February 11, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show (Real America’s Voice)

Episode Date: February 11, 2026
Hosts: Andrew, Blake, Tyler Boyer
Guests: John Solomon, Jeffrey Steele
Network: iHeartPodcasts / Real America’s Voice

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show tackles several current hot-button topics through a conservative lens: cultural and political divides in the U.S., recent mass shootings linked to the transgender community, updates on the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case, Olympic athlete activism, election integrity issues in Fulton County, and Turning Point Action’s endorsement strategy. The show features in-depth discussions and interviews, including a segment with country songwriter Jeffrey Steele on his tribute to the late Charlie Kirk.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Current events analysis from a conservative, populist perspective
• Transgender mass shooters—exploring media coverage and societal causes
• Kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie—FBI investigation updates and cartel speculation
• Olympic athletes' political activism—debating patriotism vs. protest
• Election integrity and legal investigations—Fulton County and voter ID laws
• Political endorsements—Turning Point Action’s strategic candidate support
• Cultural tributes—Jeffrey Steele discusses American voices silenced by the mainstream

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

A. Patriotism, Representation, and Athlete Activism (00:25–05:00, 62:20–70:30)

• Mixed Feelings About Representing the U.S.
  • Athletes and guests express both pride and frustration in representing America given political and cultural conflicts.
  • “Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S.” — Andrew (01:00)
• Olympians’ Political Statements Critiqued
  • Complaints about athletes speaking out against the U.S. while representing it (Hunter Hess, Amber Glenn).
  • Blake and Andrew argue media provocation is to blame: “The real villain hero, of course, are the press, because they're the ones who ask questions.” — Blake (62:57)
• Jeffrey Steele on American Voices
  • Discusses his song “A Voice,” honoring Charlie Kirk as a spokesman for neglected Americans (53:48–61:50).

Notable Quotes:

• “If it aligns with my moral values, I feel like I'm representing it. Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S.” — Andrew (01:00)
• “You're there to play a sport...you're not there to pop off about politics.” — Jeffrey Steele (69:53, paraphrasing general conservative sentiment)
• “We can help you with this song, but you're going to have to change a couple of the lines...I can't do that, because that's my job as a songwriter. I write what I see.” — Jeffrey Steele (56:04)

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B. Transgender Mass Shooter Debate & Media Coverage (07:10–22:51)

• Recent Shooting in Tumbler Ridge, Canada
  • Coverage connects the shooter to the transgender community—a pattern noted since the 2023 Covenant School shooting.
  • Blake revisits Charlie Kirk’s 2023 prediction about a rise in trans-identifying shooters.
• Causal Theories
  • Claims of “transgender cultural contagion” and overmedicalization (high doses of hormones, psychoactive drugs).
  • Hostile critique of media’s reluctance to directly describe perpetrators as transgender: “If it was a trans victim, they'd have talked non stop about that...but they ignore it when it's the perpetrator.” — Andrew (13:27)
• Rising Legal Pushback
  • Mention of a $2M malpractice award in NY for harm from gender-affirming care as a sign of coming legal reckoning.

Notable Quotes:

• “What started as a very niche thing...has turned into a broad based thing...these people over and over are not mentally well.” — Blake (10:47)
• “How many dead kids is it going to take for us to say we've probably gone too far here?” — Charlie Kirk, replayed by Blake (16:46)
• “The media has so fixated...worried about the privacy of the shooter. Call them a gun person, a lady in a dress, respect the hell out of this person. But they don't give two craps about the people that just got shot and killed.” — Blake (17:13)

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C. The Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Case & Law Enforcement (28:14–42:38)

• Summary of the Case
  • Guthrie, a high-profile figure, was kidnapped near the Mexican border.
  • FBI leads investigation after the local sheriff’s efforts stall; use of digital forensics (Ring doorbell footage).
• Cartel Speculation
  • The show debates whether this was a cartel operation due to proximity to the border and the presence of ransom demands in Bitcoin (29:30, 34:38).
• Process of Elimination
  • John Solomon explains how the FBI narrows suspects based on digital evidence, biometrics, vehicle tracking, etc.
• Critique of Local-Fed Relations
  • Early friction and slow cooperation between sheriff and FBI possibly hindered the investigation.

Notable Quotes:

• “There may be someone who knows the family...who saw a crime of opportunity...that might have reached out to someone to work with them to pull off that crime, and then it seems to go south in some ways.” — John Solomon (41:07)
• “The power of the FBI to retrace digital footprints.” — Andrew (31:28)

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D. Fulton County, Voter ID & Election Integrity (42:38–47:11)

• Fulton County, Georgia Investigation
  • New affidavits show mass procedural failures in ballot scanning and recounting—“not shenanigans in how votes were cast,” but “incompetence and possible cover-up” (43:01).
• ‘Al Capone Effect’
  • Comparison to getting Al Capone on tax violations; even technical violations can be felonies.
• Advocacy for Voter ID
  • The Save America Act passes, requiring proof of citizenship (85:54).

Notable Quotes:

• “If they're breaking the rules on how they're storing the ballots...that would still potentially be a federal crime.” — Blake (45:49)
• “This is a very important thing...the affidavit says we looked at all those conspiracies and we corroborated some of those concerns. And Fulton county has admitted to us that these bad things happened.” — John Solomon (44:20)

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E. Turning Point Action Endorsements & 2026/2028 Strategy (73:18–85:00)

• New Endorsements
  • Discussion of Texas races: Ken Paxton (US Senate), Chip Roy (AG), plus other young conservative candidates nationwide.
• Criteria
  • Based on “scorecard” of issues including American culture, border security, health, 2A, etc.
• Strategic Focus
  • Investing in swing states for 2026 and 2028, especially states that impact redistricting and future federal hiring.
• Importance of Staffing and Redistricting
  • Winning in 2028 is crucial for shaping the federal government for a generation.

Notable Quotes:

• “You want the most conservative candidate that has the best chance of winning.” — Tyler Boyer (78:08)
• “If we lose the presidency in 2028 and we do not set the table correctly in 2026…the country (could be lost) for a generation.” — Tyler Boyer (84:15)
• “12 years of hiring at the federal level...can you imagine that consolidation?” — Andrew (94:10)

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F. Congressional Commentary: Thomas Massie’s SAVE Act Vote (85:54–92:57)

• Criticism of Rep. Thomas Massie
  • Notable as the only GOP vote against SAVE Act (photo ID for voting).
  • Debated role of ideological drift vs. political funding and personal changes.
  • Pam Bondi’s heated House exchange about Epstein files and Massie critiqued live.

Notable Quotes:

• “You know, all the arguments that have been made pro Massey...but you look ridiculous (opposing SAVE Act).” — Tyler Boyer (88:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “How many dead kids is it going to take for us to say we've probably gone too far here?” — Charlie Kirk (16:46, replayed from 2023)
• “You’re there to play a sport and hopefully win a medal. You're not there to pop off about politics.” — Jeffrey Steele (69:53)
• “If it was a trans victim...they'd have talked non stop about that...but they ignore it when it's the perpetrator.” — Andrew (13:27)
• “This is America. It’s free speech. We should be able to get it all out there. Either we get all of it out there or we get none of it out there. And that the one thing that Charlie was was a voice for everybody.” — Jeffrey Steele (60:26)
• “You want the most conservative candidate that has the best chance of winning.” — Tyler Boyer (78:08)
• “If we lose 2028, you lose the country maybe for a generation.” — Tyler Boyer (84:15)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [00:25] – Representing America: Mixed feelings from Olympic athletes
• [07:10] – Canadian mass shooting linked to transgender community
• [16:46, 16:32] – Charlie Kirk’s 2023 predictions on shooter trends
• [29:30] – Nancy Guthrie kidnapping overview and cartel theories
• [32:00] – John Solomon’s FBI investigation analysis
• [42:38] – Fulton County election process violations
• [53:48] – Song “A Voice” and tribute to Charlie Kirk by Jeffrey Steele
• [62:20] – Olympic athletes, patriotism, and media baiting
• [73:18] – Turning Point Action endorsements: process and priorities
• [85:54] – Thomas Massie’s SAVE Act vote and congressional drama (Pam Bondi exchange at 91:21)

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Structure & Flow

• Opening: Initial commentary on patriotism and current political mood
• Deep Dive: On mass shootings and the intersection with trans issues, including media framing
• Investigation Update: Live reporting and analysis of the Nancy Guthrie case
• Headlines: Real America’s Voice news breaks interspersed
• Cultural Segment: Tribute to Charlie Kirk (Jeffrey Steele interview)
• Political Debate: On Olympian rhetoric and press responsibility
• Legal/Political Segment: Voter integrity and Fulton County affidavit
• Strategic Outlook: Endorsements and future conservative movement strategy
• Closing: Commentary on political trends, leadership, and grassroots action

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Tone: Blunt, adversarial toward progressive narratives and critical of left-leaning media; defiant in celebration of traditional American values; occasionally somber (when discussing violence or loss), often combative, colloquial, and focused on energizing the conservative base.

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This summary distills the episode’s themes, major discussion points, and essential quotes, providing a comprehensive guide for listeners who want to grasp all substantive content from the show.

Transcript

[Andrew]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

[Blake]

That feel to represent your country like.

[Andrew]

This, it feels amazing. I love representing the US I freaking love living there. I love it. And I'm so happy I get to represent usa. That mixed emotions to represent the US Right now. I think it's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and.

[Tyler Boyer]

I think a lot of people aren't.

[Andrew]

If it aligns with my moral values, I feel like I'm representing it. Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S. so, yeah, I just.

[John Solomon]

Kind of want to do it for.

[Andrew]

My friends and my family and the people that support me. It's been a hard time for the community overall under this administration. It isn't the first time that we've had to come together as a community and try and fight for our human rights.

[Blake]

And now especially, it's not just affecting.

[Andrew]

The queer community, but many other communities. I hope I can use my platform.

[Blake]

And my voice throughout these Games to.

[Andrew]

Try and encourage people to stay strong in these hard times.

[Blake]

I know.

[Andrew]

I know that a lot of people say you're just an athlete, like, stick to your job, shut up about politics, but politics affect us all. It is something that I will not.

[Blake]

Just be quiet about because it is.

[Andrew]

Something that affects us in our everyday lives. We'd be remiss if we didn't at least mention what's going on in Minnesota and what a tough time it's been for everybody. I am a lawyer, as you know, and we do the cost. We. We have a Constitution, and it allows.

[Terrence Bates]

Us to freedom of the press and.

[Andrew]

Freedom of speech, protects us from unreasonable searches and seizures and makes it that we have to, you know, have probable cause to be pulled over. And what's happening in Minnesota is wrong. There's no shades of gray. It's clear. Olympic athletes are unbelievable. I know the entire country is rooting for them. Yes, you're gonna have some Olympic athletes.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Who pop off about.

[Andrew]

I feel like that happens every Olympics. My advice to them would be to try to bring the country together. And when you're representing the country, you're representing Democrats and Republicans.

[Jeffrey Steele]

You're there to play a sport, and.

[Andrew]

You'Re there to represent your country and hopefully win a medal.

[Jeffrey Steele]

You're not there to pop off about politics.

[Andrew]

So when Olympic athletes enter the political.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Arena, they should expect some pushback.

[Andrew]

But most Olympic athletes, whatever their politics, are doing A great job.

[Tyler Boyer]

Being able to represent the US at.

[John Solomon]

This stage in the Olympics is one.

[Andrew]

Of the greatest honors that I've ever had.

[Blake]

Truly grateful to be here representing the.

[John Solomon]

Red, White and Booth.

[Blake]

Do you think President Trump will pardon you and your boss, Christine Ohm, before he leaves office, just like he has for insurrectionists and his political allies?

[John Solomon]

I'm not going to speak on behalf.

[Andrew]

Of President Trump, but I'll tell you.

[John Solomon]

I signed up for this job to protect America, and I'm very proud of the service that I provide. And I don't need a pardon from anybody.

[Blake]

Well, you better hope so. You better hope you get been pardoned because you will be held accountable for the absolute disregard of the law your agencies have shown over the past year. Your agencies have lost the trust of the American people.

[Andrew]

How many government agencies, Mr. Lyons, are you aware of that routinely kill American citizens and you still get funding? Ma', am, I'm not gonna entertain that. Of course you're not. Exactly. Exactly. Once again, questions that you cannot answer. And that is exactly why, Mr. Chair, and to this committee, to my colleagues and to my colleagues across the aisle, this is exactly why we should not be funding this agency. The people are watching you. They are watching you. And this is why we need to abolish ice. The SAVE act is expected to be brought this week to the floor for a vote. Do you support voter ID for elections?

[Blake]

Well, it depends on what you mean by voter id when you want to say that everyone has to produce a.

[John Solomon]

Birth certificate, including women whose married names.

[Blake]

Are not on their birth certificates. That creates a real problem for me.

[Andrew]

Well, isn't that just one of the.

[John Solomon]

First steps in getting married and getting a new id?

[Blake]

Actually, it's not getting a new birth.

[John Solomon]

Certificate because part of what the SAFE act does is it says most driver's.

[Andrew]

License around the country won't work as an id.

[John Solomon]

And that creates a terrible problem.

[Blake]

But you need an ID to do.

[John Solomon]

Just about anything in America.

[Andrew]

Shouldn't you need one to get a birth certificate?

[John Solomon]

I hope you know that.

[Tyler Boyer]

The Charlie Kirk Show Every day there's.

[Andrew]

A battle for your mind raging Information coming from every ink with the will to deceive Fear not, you found the place for truth the voice of a.

[John Solomon]

Generation that still has the will to.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Believe in the greatest country in the.

[Tyler Boyer]

History of the world this is the.

[Andrew]

Charlie Kirk Show Buckle up, here we go.

[Blake]

Hello. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Blake. I'm here@the Bitcoin.com studio in Bitcoin.com Phoenix, Arizona. Andrew is also with us. I believe he's in Palm Beach. I'm not sure if we have a connection with him or not. We don't have him yet. Alrighty. Well, we'll just jump right into it. There's a lot going on today, but the story we wanted to start with today is one that I think affects all, certainly all of us here in a more personal way than it ever did before. Yesterday there was a mass shooting in Canada. This is in the town of Tumbler Ridge. It's in northern British Columbia. It's a town of only a few thousand people, very far away from anywhere else. And there was a shooter there. And there's been 10 fatalities, including the shooter himself. But what stands out about this is it fits into a micro pattern that has emerged over the past few years. Uh, the police originally identified the shooter as a woman in a dress with brown hair. Uh, I think if you're like me, if you're like a lot of people, that immediately makes you raise an eyebrow. A woman in a dress. And unsurprisingly, what a lot of people immediately jump to is, this is probably a transgender person who has done a shooting. And that was only supported when the police came out. And this is the Canadian police, of course, and began referring to the shooter as a word I'm not sure any of us have ever heard before. Let's play clip 351.

[Andrew]

That includes the deceased gun person. Okay.

[Blake]

And then separately, do you know the gun person's relationship to a gun person? Not a gunman? I think even. I think even when a woman does a shooting, it's usually just gunman. But now this time, it's a gun person. And so I'm not going to recite the name purely because the Canadian police have not officially identified the shooter yet, but we have very, very strong, I would say, overwhelming evidence that this shooter was a local transgender individual. This person killed two people in their own family at their home, and then went to their school and went on a spree shooting. And this is something that personally affects me because I remember when the Covenant School shooting happened in the spring of 2023, I just started working with Charlie. And that shooter, of course, turned out to have a transgender identification along with a bunch of other issues. And Charlie predicted on this show that he thought there would be a wave of transgender shooters of one kind or another. And I was skeptical. I said, charlie, they're a very tiny share of the population, under 1%. Shootings like this are rare events generally. And I just. I don't think you're likely to see, you know, 1% times a tiny number turn into a real trend. And the truth is, is Charlie was right and I was wrong. Because since then, we had the shooting at Annunciation Catholic in Minneapolis that was a transgender shooter. We've had. We hadn't known about this at the time or notice it, but Highlands Ranch in Colorado, there was a shooting there, two shooters, and one of them was transgender. And of course, as all of you know, Tyler Robinson, the suspect who we believe to be guilty of Charlie's shooting, he appears to have been motivated. He was not transgender himself, but was in a relationship with a transgender individual and seems to have been motivated ideologically by that cause. And now this shooter. We're getting the person who's very likely the shooter. We're getting details. Someone found their Reddit account. This person was taking a super dose of Zoloft, 280 milligrams a day. I checked online, the starting dose is 25 milligrams, goes up to 200. This person was taking 280. They were supplementing that with marijuana. They were taking something called 5 Meo DMT, which is a psychoactive drug that you get from Licking Arizona Desert Toad. You extract that and get a psychoactive experience. And then this person was taking a giant pile of hormones because they thought they should be the opposite sex. And what I have to say is I think we're going to see more things like this because we're seeing. We're reaping the harvest that was sown about a decade ago when we started to have the transgender cultural contagion spread. It started with a handful of families in the Bay Area, elite families. They had this kind of, let's say it, a fetish that was indulged and fed. And then we blasted it out to the entire world with media and with the Obama administration encouraging insurance companies to cover this. And then we had activists take over medical professional organizations and egg them on into saying, yeah, if your kid says, oh, they feel unhappy about going through puberty or they don't like being a boy or don't like being a girl.

[Jeffrey Steele]

We are going to put them on.

[Blake]

A rocket ship towards getting irreversible surgeries, and we're going to put them on a ton of hormones. And the truth is, is these are all very mentally unwell people who are probably not going to respond well to a giant cocktail of chemicals being thrown at their brain. And what started as a very niche thing with a handful of people has turned into a broad Based thing, like I said. Tumblr Ridge, small town in rural Canada. And if you go across America, everyone in America has had this encounter. You know, someone at their school, it's a boy who says she's a girl, he's a girl now, grew out their hair, you know, wears a different outfit. And these people over and over are not mentally well. And they gravitate together in online spaces where they're fed a very radicalizing ideology. They're said, they're told everyone must accept you or they're trying to commit genocide against you. They're denying your right to exist and you have the right. And they're the ones who are most prone to interpret that literally and think, oh, if someone is denying my right to exist, I should respond with violence. I should lash out at the world this suspected shooter appears to on Reddit, besides posting about the insane number of drugs they were taking, they were taking, they were, they were going to a shooting range and practicing and they were posting clips of this on Transguns, which is a subreddit that exists for transgender people to practice with guns. We've created a very, very toxic environment and I just shudder to think that we're probably going to have more events like this, more shooters like the ones who target Covenant School, like Annunciation Catholic and like what happened with Charlie. But in the meantime, we do have this very bleak denial where there's a true dynamic. You notice with this shooting where they have the competing impulses, where they realize that if they publicly announce, oh, it was a shooter and it was a transgender individual who may have been motivated by that, that will look bad. But they've also been trained for a decade that they can't deny this person's pronouns. So we get this bizarre situation where they're using gunperson as their chosen lingo, but they won't confirm who the shooter is. They've taken longer on this than I think they normally would with something like, because they still haven't confirmed it a day later. And they, at this point, I think very easily could. And you know, we have, we have clips that point this out. Let's do 352.

[Andrew]

But we know if it was a victim who was trans, because we understand this is a 15 year old boy who identifies as a girl gun crazy. If it had been a, if it been a trans victim, they'd have talked non stop about that, as they did about the tragedy of the killing of Brianna Jai, who was a boy who was living as if he was a girl and was treated as a girl by his parents, and he was killed. He was not targeted for being gay. But most of the media reports go on and on and on about this trans killing because he was trans identified, but they ignore it when it's the perpetrator.

[Blake]

All right, I'm told we do finally have Andrew with us in Palm Beach. So, Andrew, welcome to the show. And, man, what a. What a tragedy that I think all of us are horrified by.

[Andrew]

We were letting you cook. We were letting you cook. Blake, you made a lot of great points. Yeah. I'm here in Palm beach, the mothership for real America's Voice with Rob and Parker Sig. But, yeah, this was a horrible shooting, and instantly you made the connection. I thought about Charlie. I thought about the predictions he made. We got a clip on the other side of this break that we're going to play of Charlie warning about this, and he was right and a lot of people were wrong. But we'll be back from break really soon here. Talk to you then.

[Terrence Bates]

All right.

[Andrew]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I think we got our tech worked out there.

[Tyler Boyer]

Blake.

[Andrew]

Blake's in the Bitcoin.com studio. I'm in the remote Bitcoin.com studio. You're one place to buy, sell, and trade bitcoin. By the way, bitcoin has been in the news a lot lately because of all this Savannah Guthrie stuff, Nancy Guthrie. They're trying to. They're looking at bitcoin wallets and all that stuff. Anyways, lots of breaking news there. We're going to get to that with John Solomon on the other side of this segment. So stay tuned for John Solomon. We're also going to break some news in the Fulton county ongoing FBI investigation. Pam Bondi's before the house hearing. Lots going on. Plus, we got all these Olympic Olympians trash in the country. Blake, we're going to have to find time for that today because we just. We have to hit that. But on this trans shooting, Blake, you've. You've really done a deep dive. Bravo on that first segment. You did fantastic. I. But we got to play this clip from Charlie. This was back in 2023. You mentioned that Charlie was right and a lot of people were wrong, maybe even you were wrong, but he nailed it. And it's creepy watching this stuff. You know, one of our producers sent me this clip from 2023 and said, this is gonna be hard to watch, but you have to play it. And I agree. You know, the way that everything went down with Charlie and the Tyler Robinson case and you made mention of the fact that he was at least motivated by his, you know, relationship with this trans identifying person. So let's, let's go ahead and play it. This is from. I believe this is from March 28, 2023. Play cut. 386 trans people have been made into.

[Blake]

Kind of a sacred cow of American politics. You can't question it, you can't criticize it. And they believe they can threaten whoever they want. This is the ultimate top of the impression Olympics. How many dead kids is it going.

[Andrew]

To take for us to say we've.

[Blake]

Probably gone too far here? We should just ask a couple questions. How many mass shootings have to happen.

[Andrew]

Where we probably say, wait a second, you know, we just calm down, you know, in. Basically Charlie goes on in that clip. We have a second one.397 it might be worth playing. But the media has so fixated. And by the way, Canada is worse than just about any other countries. It's worse than America. It's probably worse than the uk Blake. But they were worried about the privacy of the shooter. So this person kills nine people, wounds another 25. Some of them may lose their life. Kills his own family and they're worried about his privacy. Think about how backwards that value system is that would prioritize the privacy of the shooter. Call them a gun person, a lady in a dress, respect the hell out of this person. But they don't give two craps about the people that just got shot and killed. Play Cut 397 the media is actually.

[Blake]

Pushing forward this total lie that there's a trans genocide again, the trans Day of vengeance. They have shirts where they say trans, trans rights and they have all these weapons or else that is a threat. Antifa and the trans mafia are now.

[Andrew]

Partners and nobody's investigating them now.

[Blake]

No one's asking questions. The media is terrified of these people. And by the way, some of that fear is warranted. You will get death threats. They will try to come after you.

[Andrew]

That's what they do.

[Blake]

They enjoy the violence against conservatives. He was 100% right on that. And as we learned to our horror, and it really is, if you look around online, if you start looking for the pattern, you see it over and over again. Because it's not just that they're radicalized, it's routinely, even in stuff that's not specifically about transgenderism. Often the most radical, the most extreme people in any movement are often. The joke would be that they're the tranissaries. They're like the shock troops. Of leftism, often in bizarre ways. Like a lot of the most militantly left wing moderators on websites like Wikipedia or on Reddit, they're often transgender. And then they're the ones, for example, who would be really gung ho about censorship. So the reason censorship on so many platforms went through the roof is you would have these transgender moderators and editors and such take it over and they just, everything gets consumed into them enforcing their, their fetish, this contagion on the entire population because they need that level of control. Because as people have pointed out, if they aren't endlessly having people affirm their identity, it's like giving Narcan to a heroin addict. You're killing their high and you're driving them into a frenzy. And then on top of that, they're all medicated to the gills on, on toad venom and so on. Andrew But I wanted us to make sure that we hit another aspect of this because there is reason for hope. This is all bad. We're probably going to see more shootings.

[Andrew]

Like to come, please.

[Blake]

But a big reason for hope that happened in the last few days and we haven't talked about it yet. We're going to also see the reckoning against the freaks and frauds and charlatans, the medical malpractice monsters in our schools and hospital systems who fed people into this contagion. A couple weeks ago in New York, not a red state by any means, a New York jury awarded a woman, Fox Varian, $2 million in a medical malpractice case because she, her parents were going through a divorce, they were fighting over custody. She got depressed. She was diagnosed with autism. And as part of this, she started to identify as a boy, was put on a rocket ship, got a double mastectomy in about a year, under a year, and only got worse and then eventually detransitioned. Went to a jury and said this was medical malpractice. I was not really a boy and they did all these things to me. And she just got $1.6 million in past pain and $400,000 to cover her future medical costs. And if you look at the numbers from 2016 to 2020, according to the American Medical association, we've had over 3,200 mastectomies on children 12 to 18, 405 genital surgeries.

[Andrew]

Blake, how many? How many? Read that first stat again.

[Blake]

Three thousand two hundred and fifteen mastectomies on 12 to 18 year olds from 2016 to 2020. So, and that was before the peak. I'd Say the peak was probably 21, 22. Maybe we're still peaking. So we've probably had thousands more. 405 genital surgeries, 350 other gender related procedures. And that's on 12 to 18 year old children of both sexes. Almost certainly the real number is higher. And that's, that's surgeries. Never mind how many people took hormones because that's the first intervention they do. Or puberty blockers. We know the puberty blockers that, that wouldn't even fall into that age window. That's often kids, you know, 9 to 12 years old and that can massively mess you up, that can lower your iq, that can make you infertile for life. Huge numbers of problems. And now the other day, the one of the meta. Yeah. The American Society of Plastic Surgeons basically came out against gender related surgery for minors. I think we're opening the door to a wave. Thousands of these lawsuits could be coming. And they should be coming red states. We should make sure our laws are as amenable as possible to these lawsuits. Make it so there's no window where, you know, there's no statute of limitations on it, no ceiling on the damages. We should utterly bankrupt every doctor, every clinic that fed children to this Moloch monstrosity.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's. You'd hope something like this will just further underscore something that is common sense to most Americans. But the fact that we're having to fight on this battle just shows how bad it has gotten. Bad in so many senses of the word. How detached from reality we've become. John Solomon joins us next. We're going to go to Fulton county and Savannah Guthrie. All the breaking news on both fronts. We'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

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[Tyler Boyer]

This movement will not be silenced.

[Andrew]

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[Blake]

Oh, we're still waiting on him.

[Andrew]

Okay. I guess I. I think we have. He's trying to get in complicated business. The tech has been fighting us this morning.

[Blake]

We're gonna have them. Do we want to hit him on. Do we want to talk about Nancy Guthrie first or do we want to talk about this Fulton County?

[Andrew]

So. So yeah, let's hit Nancy Guthrie. Because this was. I mean, if you watched any of the news last night. So I got in late into Palm beach and I turned on the TV and it was like wall to wall coverage. Like all the networks were covering it. Because this was. We are now in the 11th day of this Nancy Guthrie saga where she was kidnapped and people figured out. Cause she didn't make it to church. And they called the family. The family went and checked. They immediately called 911 and got the cops involved. And the investigation had stalled. It just felt like there was no movement. There was these ransom letters that were getting sent to TMZ and local affiliates that included bitcoin wallets. And you saw Savannah Guthrie going on TV saying, please, you know, we want to talk. And it does appear that there's been activity now in this bitcoin wallet. So originally there was $300 sent. Now we're. Now we're being told it could be all of it sent. But. But Harvey Levin over TMZ is being very coy about what they know. It is one of those crazy stories that just seem to Accelerate with a lot of velocity last night. And so the FBI releases these ring doorbell footage that came from sort of residual data on this ring doorbell. Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription to keep the footage, to store the footage. And so the FBI had to come in with their digital experts and recreate it, re engineer it. And then they went and found a person of interest. SWAT teams were sent out, they investigated this guy. It was everybody last night was thinking, was this the guy that. That kidnapped her? Was it somebody that was associated with the case? And listen, when the. When the networks like this and when the tabloids are all covering this story, it means there's a billion eyeballs on this thing for this has captured the imagination of the country. And it's just a really interesting story because as Blake has mentioned, as I've mentioned, as Charlie's dimension, you know, this is really close to the Mexican border. And this person of interest was pulled over in a traffic stop about 10 minutes from the Mexican border. So it was actually south of Tucson where Nancy Guthrie lives. He's pulled over in 10 minutes away from the border. We're all thinking, oh, here we go. Here we go now. Could be the cartels. Then they interview him. This guy gets released. He says he's innocent. 356.

[Jeffrey Steele]

What were they asking you about that were my whereabouts.

[Andrew]

Okay. Where do I work, where was I and all that. But are you ever up in Tucson? Yeah, I work in Tucson. What do you do, Gls? Deliver packages. Okay. Do you think you might have delivered.

[Tyler Boyer]

A package to Nancy Guthrie's house?

[Terrence Bates]

I don't know. Might have been a possibility. I don't know.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Do you ever deliver like Amazon packages or anything?

[John Solomon]

Well, it's.

[Andrew]

That's.

[Terrence Bates]

It's kind of the same thing.

[John Solomon]

Yeah.

[Blake]

So do you think you may have.

[John Solomon]

Did they ever.

[Blake]

Did they indicate that you might have been on her property?

[Tyler Boyer]

You're not sure?

[Terrence Bates]

Nah, they just came up.

[John Solomon]

They. They.

[Terrence Bates]

Until right now. All I know is that they show my.

[Andrew]

My in law a picture of somebody.

[Terrence Bates]

Wearing a mask or something.

[John Solomon]

And they.

[Terrence Bates]

They supposedly look like my eyes.

[Andrew]

Right. Okay, so he denies this. His. I guess his mother in law was doing interviews with Ms. NOW or CNN last night as well. It's a fascinating story that seems to be developing. I think the big headline here, Blake, is the power of the FBI to retrace digital footprints. Oh, we do have John now. John Solomon.

[Blake]

John.

[Andrew]

Yes. Welcome to the show, John.

[John Solomon]

Good to be with you.

[Andrew]

We've been fighting tech all morning. Good. It's great to have You? We're good. It's been one of those mornings, though. So, John, give us the latest. I mean, there was. It seemed like this case had stalled, and then all of a sudden, it just accelerated rapidly with Savannah Guthrie and her mom, who's obviously been kidnapped. Nancy, what is the latest? They had this person of interest that was detained, not arrested. They've let this person go. What's the latest?

[John Solomon]

So I think what you're seeing is the FBI has a pool of suspects. Remember what Cash Patel told Sean Hannity last night, that they're looking at multiple people who could be involved in this. Now, it doesn't mean they were working together. It could be that they've got a pool of people that fit certain criteria. Their phone was in the air at the time. Their eyes looked the same as the guy on the camera they were near or their phone was near. A location of some interest. And they're trying to narrow down who those people are and whether one of those people could. Or more than one of those people could have been involved in the abduction. And so. So it's a process of elimination. And, you know, we in the media sometimes want instant gratification. First guy, we're going to get him. You know, Cash Patel did a good job getting Charlie's shooter right away. But sometimes you have to eliminate few people. You got four phones in the right area at the right time, and we got to figure out which one is which until we find the guy whose eyes match who's on the camera. And I think they're in a process of elimination right now. And that will mean some people are going to be detained who are innocent, some people who are going to be detained that might ultimately be involved in the plot. But it is a process of elimination, and it's not unlike what happens in a case like this, where a lot of the evidence is already cold. And you got to go back and go to your second level of evidence to start finding people. Second level of evidence is a little less certain, but it gives you a pool of people to start looking at. And I think they're in that process right now.

[Andrew]

Yeah, And, John, that's my question, right? Because we. I remember this. When, you know, Charlie was killed, you know, that everybody was talking about his first 48 hours. This is day 11 of this. So, you know, the question then becomes, you know, how does this case get solved 11 days out from the actual crime? And, you know, what. What is the. I guess my question has really been centered around is this cartel related? Have you heard anybody Referencing that. Is there concern about that? I noticed last night on the networks nobody was mentioning that. Nobody wants to get ahead of themselves. I get that. But this, to me, would be the. The immediate thought. But, you know, everybody keeps looking for those closest to the Guthrie family that might be connected in the Tucson area.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. I think right now, what you see in the statements that the sheriff has made is that they believe the person who came to this home had some familiarity with home. Obviously not enough familiar because they look like they surprised by the ring camera. That's why they go get the brush and try to get rid of the ring camera. But they seem to know the structure of the house, how to enter and where to go run back from. And so that tells you that this was a crime that at least was thought out, if not from someone that has some familiarity with the property. But that doesn't mean that a drug cartel couldn't have cased the joint. It doesn't mean that an insider could have been involved. It could mean someone that they met once and came back to the house and realized they had victim of potential opportunity. They're in a phase now where they don't have a singular theory. And I think that's what happens. Eleven days out, you start to approach a case from a cold case perspective. Just like the way the FBI produced the arrested the January six bomber after five years. You go back and now you start to look at a wider circle of evidence. Someone in a pattern of evidence. Someone had that ring camera for a while. Where did that ring camera, why its battery was still on. What direction was that going, and where did it last ping? What are the white trucks that went by the house? Who has a white truck or a white suv? Because that was what neighbors reported. And you start looking for people that have multiple points of evidence, but none of them are directly obviously involved. And you start going through them and saying, could this be the person? They have a very important piece of evidence. They have biometrics of the eyes, and they're going to find that person eventually by stopping someone. And one of the first things they're going to do is an iris scan to see if it matches that suspect. And I think that that is a process, but they're widening the circle because there isn't a singular, obvious candidate that's going to result in some misses. When you do this sort of process of elimination, Some people are going to be innocent, but, you know, they fit some of the data profiles. You got to work them down. But they're more in a cold case mode now than they were in the first 48 hours. When you try to solve a crime, there's a lot of questions about what the sheriff did and didn't do in the early part of this investigation. Why the property was.

[Andrew]

That's my.

[John Solomon]

For a while.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a big question, John. So there was, there's been sort of a storyline here that local officials were slow to cooperate with the feds. Have you confirmed that in your reporting?

[John Solomon]

I think there's been conversations going along all throughout, but that the sheriff's department was in the lead early on. And then at some point the FBI comes into the lead three to four days out. And that's not an uncommon scenario in a local crime, particularly if, you know, it looks like the local police can solve in the first couple of days. FBI comes in an assistatory role when you get three to four days out. And when there's a possibility that this could be a multiple person plot, which is one of the theories here. You got the crypto coming in the alleged crypto allegations. You now bring in the FBI's expertise and they bring capabilities that a local sheriff's department has. FBI is much better at going back and retrieving old ring footage, camera footage than a local police would be capable of doing. There are forensic capabilities that local police don't have it. So the FBI comes in with that. That's how you get the video. The video comes out. It starts getting people thinking, I think I know someone that looks like that. He drives a white van. Tips start coming in and then you're starting to call, call that pool of suspects. When you go back to the January six case and it's a classic case of solving an old crime. And an old crime is anything outside the 48 hour window when, when everything, every lead is still hot. They had a group of people that they saw come in the third street tunnel. They had a group of people who had phones they had in the vicinity. They had a group of people that had some political reasons to have concerns about January 6th.

[Andrew]

Five seconds, John.

[John Solomon]

And they, they put all those people on a map and you just start eliminating till you find your guy. And that's what's going on right now.

[Andrew]

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[John Solomon]

I think you merge one and two together and you probably have your best option. There's probably some professionalism to this, but there could be some connectivity to people who know the family or knew of the family and might have reached out and got someone to do the initial kidnapping. And then it goes a little bit south. Right? I think that's the theory I've heard Most commonly in talking to law enforcement the last couple of days. So there may be someone who knows the family in some capacity at some time who saw a crime of opportunity. They might have reached out to someone to work with them to pull off that crime, and then it seems to go south in some ways. And that's why some of the police assess that some of these ransom notes seem not the normal path towards a ransom or kidnapping sort of crime. And so those are. That's what I've heard on the inside. I don't think they're fully stumped. When you. When you put out a video footage and you can show the eyes of a guy, and that means they probably have a car somewhere, it means they probably have tracking on the ring device. When that guy takes the ring device with and pulls it off, that's trackable for a period of time until the battery dies. And then at some point, people like that are going to have pick up their cell phones. And so they have. The third part is definitely true. They'll have more data than they put out there. But I think they're looking at a combination of someone who had familiarity with her or the family and then maybe bringing in someone to commit the crime. I think that's the biggest area they're looking at right now.

[Andrew]

All right, I want to pivot really quick here. Our audience is really into the Fulton county story. Blake went through the affidavit. So a judge just unsealed the affidavit that enabled the FBI's raid on Fulton county election offices. And you have a big piece at Just the News. Blake and John, tell us what you've learned. And then, Blake, I know you know this better than me, so please chime in.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. First off, Blake, job and all the work you do on a daily basis, you're doing amazing work. And by the way, let's put a circle around Maricopa County. It's the next Fulton County. I think you're going to see some law enforcement and legal activity in Maricopa county coming in the next few weeks. It probably won't involve the 2020 election. It will involve the 2024 election. Keep an eye on that. That's right in your backyard. So let's watch that. What we're looking at here is sort of the way that Al Capone gets captured. Al Capone never got prosecuted for being a mobster. They ultimately got him because he cheated on some taxes here in Fulton County. They're probably never going to prove that there was shenanigans in how votes were cast. But there is clear evidence that the way they were supposed to follow a law and counting the ballots and in complying with state law to do the recounts, that there were mass errors and that they may have tried to cover them up. And if they covered them up, they committed fraud under Section 512 of the US Code, which says that election workers must abide by state law. They can't fraudulently fake counts or fake numbers just to make them look like they were competent. What they're looking at is that Fulton county was so incompetent in voting that they mishandled the recount and the audits, and then they tried to cover it up. That is the theory of the case. There are five.

[Andrew]

Got it.

[John Solomon]

This is a very important thing. I want everybody to go look at the article that Politico did yesterday. They wrote one of the most bogus articles in the country. This is an old recycled case of conspiracy theories that Trump people have been kicking around for years. That's not what that affidavit says. The affidavit says we looked at all those conspiracies and we corroborated some of those concerns. And Fulton county has admitted to us that these bad things happened, that we double scanned ballots, that we didn't follow the certification process, that there were other irregularities that didn't follow state law. Those are significant admissions of wrongdoing. And now it becomes a felony if any of the acts at the five categories of acts that the FBI identifies, their are considered to be intentional. Someone did it knowing that they were going to violate the law or they were covering up something that becomes a federal felony offense. And so that's what the affidavit says. All five of those issues that the FBI cited in the bullet points at the top of that are five things that Justin News began writing about in 21, 22, 23, 24. All five of them. We got Governor Kemp to weigh in on some of it, and he made a referral. Brad Raffsenberger, who once called it a perfect election, later had to admit it wasn't. He came on the show seven times. Yep, that's true. That's true. All five of the things they found are things that we corroborated through evidence. And now Fulton county is admitting that these things happened. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Points up.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Well, it's.

[Blake]

It's just fixating on stuff that, as you say, is sort of. They'll say it's debunked, and yet it never quite was. Like, they do have the strange discrepancy between like ballot images. The affidavit goes on at length about they had at 1.17,852 missing ballot images. There's live examples of ballot images that appear to show literally identical images between different ballots. And you know that 17,000 number comes up again if you check the actual number of votes. President Trump only lost Georgia by 12,000 votes. This is a hyper blue county. But as you say, it is sort of the Al Capone type thing. They repeatedly note that if they're breaking the rules on how they're storing the ballots, how they're scanning them, if they're doing all these process issues with it, even if it didn't change a single outcome, even if it didn't really change a single vote, that would still potentially be a federal crime.

[John Solomon]

It is. You got it right, Blake. That's exactly what the case is. Now when it moves to Arizona, I think there's going to be a different issue with the integrity of where blank news and yeah, where blank and actual ballots were being stored in the same location. Keep an eye on that. That's going to be a slightly different issue than I keep an eye on. Michigan Mission is going to have interesting stuff happening pretty soon.

[Andrew]

Great work, John. Thanks for coming on. We'll talk to you soon, my friend. Our two coming up.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. It's been a very busy morning at the White House, highlighted by President Trump's meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. That meeting has been closed to the media so far this morning, but RAV chief White House correspondent Brian Glenn is live on the grounds of the People's House with the very latest. Brian, obviously no one's been allowed into that meeting. Any idea what's been discussed so far? I'm sure we at least have an idea of what was on the agenda.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, Terrence, I'm just outside the West Wing here where shortly after 11 o' clock, Benjamin Netanyahu made his arrival. Now, his arrival here at the White House wasn't through the traditional way through pebble beach and into the West Wing here with the color guard presentation. Rather, it was around the back in between the White House and the Eisenhower building. So it was kind of of off camera for that. But from what I've been told, there's three main topics on discussion today. One would be the the peace deal, the board of peace and President Trump sits on the board of peace plans on that. Second discussion would be the second phase of the rebuild of Gaza and what does that look like, countries involved in that. And then third lastly would be the Iranian conflict in terms of their nuclear program and the long range ballistic missiles that many are wanting them to give up. We'll see what happens through these meetings. Now as of right now, they are still discussing that. So we haven't got any indication how those meetings have gone, but we'll be right here outside the White House. So as that opens up, it's a possibility, it does open up to the press. We'll have it right here on Rural America's Voice.

[Terrence Bates]

Brian, typically when the president hosts this sorts of, this sort of high profile visitor to the White House, particularly with such high profile issues on the agenda, he does open it up to the media. At least there's a press availability with him and with the leader. Should we read anything into the fact that that hasn't happened as of.

[Blake]

Well.

[John Solomon]

Perhaps we have seen in the past when world leaders come here and originally that meeting is closed. But if there's any developments within this meeting that President Trump thinks the world media should hear, it's going to open up. So we'll find out. Exactly. And that could be in a way, if President Trump thinks that the meetings didn't go well and there might be a reason why, then he'll open it up for the press to engage in that. Now, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not necessarily considered a press friendly prime minister leader there in Israel. From what I've been told my colleagues here, he does not have the press engagement that President Trump has. Matter of fact, he's been compared to Joe Biden in terms of the limited press. So if it was in fact to open up, I don't think necessarily that would work in Benjamin, Benjamin Netanyahu's favor. I think that would actually tend to lean in the to President Trump's favor because he is so media friendly and so used to opening up these meetings to the, to the local, national and.

[Terrence Bates]

Foreign press and he is engaging for sure. Before I let you go, Brian, there's another big story that's developing over El Paso. Earlier this morning we of course talked about the fact that the airspace over El Paso, Texas had been shut down. It then quickly reopened early this morning. Initial reports were that there were Mexican drug cartel drones that incurred into the American airspace causing the closure. But now it seems like there are questions about whether that in fact was the case. There's lots of reporting on the fact that that may not have ultimately been the case. Despite reporting from the Department of War.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[John Solomon]

There is an article CBS is reporting that could possibly be an drone testing from our own military, that maybe there wasn't communication with the local airport officials there in El Paso. Perhaps some type of message was sent out that they, in fact, thought it was a foreign Mexican cartel drone because those drones had been known in the past to be in that area. So they, I guess, assumed that this was once again a Mexican drone. But now it looks like some of this information is coming out. But it was really, really a matter of miscommunication on this drone. So we'll see how that story develops. But the good news is that if you're flying in and out of El Paso, the next airport is 270 miles away.

[Terrence Bates]

Brian, 10 seconds. Is it fishy or is it miscommunication? 10 seconds.

[John Solomon]

I'm going to say miscommunication on this. I don't think we had any drug cartels. I think this is miscommunication.

[Terrence Bates]

All right, we'll leave it there. Brian Glenn reporting from the White House.

[Tyler Boyer]

House.

[Andrew]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. I'm in Palm Beach. Blake is holding it down in phoenix@the bitcoin.com studio. And Blake, we get to talk about your favorite type of music next.

[Blake]

Oh, boy.

[Andrew]

Which one? Charlie shared your lack of appreciation. You and Charlie shared a lack of appreciation for country music. As somebody who grew up with cowboys all around me and ranchers, I. I am steeped in it, steeped in the culture, and I love it. And so I'm really excited about this next guest. Jeffrey Steele. He's a hall of fame songwriter. He's written hits like Cowboy and me by Tim McGraw, Rascal Flat, what's Flats, what hurts the most, and my Wish, Montgomery Gentry, My Town, and Hell yeah. It's so. I mean, this guy has done some absolute bangers, some huge, huge hits. And he released a song called a voice, and it mentions Charlie. It was a beautiful tribute to Charlie. And when he released it, I got got this song sent to me by about. I'm not kidding, maybe 15, maybe 20 people saying we should have him on. So I'm gonna play his song. And we'll welcome Jeffrey Steele. 385 we're the coal miners, the firefighters, the Charlie Kirk choir. All out in our ladders finally waking up.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah, we've had enough of the liars.

[Andrew]

Setting the world on fire. So, Jeffrey Steele, hall of fame songwriter, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's good to have you.

[Jeffrey Steele]

What an honor to be here. Thank you for having Me?

[Andrew]

Well, it's an honor that you chose to honor Charlie in that way and to just tell us. It felt like the right time to do this interview because we just had our all American halftime show and millions tuned in. We're still working on a final number. 40, 50 million people watch that thing. We had obviously a bunch of country acts and Kid Rock even did tell you can't. So it felt like the right time to do this. Tell us what inspired you to do this song and this tribute to Charlie.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Well, I mean, the message of the song speaks to what you're just talking about, the numbers you're talking about. People do feel unspoken for, and we just saw it with these numbers that you've got. The song was written about me wanting to try to make a point of talking about the people that are unspoken for and the people that are always neglected in this society. And after Charlie was assassinated, I went. After the song was written, I went to a hometown vigil in Franklin, Tennessee, my hometown. And I showed up with a bunch of friends, and there were 5,000 people in the town square overflowing with people just praying and singing. There was no statues coming down. There was no flags being lit. There was nobody cussing and screaming and fighting. It was just people praying for a better outcome and a representation of who Charlie really was. And I just. As a songwriter, I was just standing there watching all of that happen. I was like, man, I've got to put this in the song. It's a Charlie Kirk choir out here. And I just felt like it had to go in the song.

[Andrew]

And I got thrown at me for that. I was gonna say, what's the reaction been from your release? Because you're really well known in that community. I mean, if people at home don't know who you are, everybody in Nashville knows who you are. So it's a big deal.

[Jeffrey Steele]

And a lot of. A lot of people heard the song, and the first reaction was, well, we can. We can help you with this song, but you're going to have to change a couple of the lines. And I was like, I wonder which ones they want me to change. And I said, no, I can't do that, because that's my job as a songwriter. I write what I see. I write the truth, and I try to represent that the best I can. And I just figured I could work this song on my own grassroots if I couldn't get the help from the industry that was kind of frowning upon what I wrote about. So I just figured I'd try to go for it myself. With the help of some people, like John Rich and others, I got a few platforms where I could launch this thing and get it heard with accompanying video. And the next thing I know, I'm off to the races with a hit song on my hands. Because people want to hear it. People do feel like they're not spoken for, and they do need a voice.

[Andrew]

Thank you. Thank you for your courage. And I think Blake's probably going to have some thoughts on this too. But when we set about doing the halftime show, we. We hit some serious pushback from venues, from not really artists. A lot of the artists were really excited to be a part of it, but then their agents and their managers would get involved and they'd be looking at dollar signs, and then there was some sort of hesitancy. Explain that piece of the industry that people maybe don't understand. You know, why would there be reticence to use the name Charlie Kirk in the song? Why would there be reticence to be a part of something like the halftime show? And when we push through and we get 40 to 50 million eyeballs on it, does that change things?

[Jeffrey Steele]

Yeah, I feel like, you know, they're pushing a narrative as hard as they can. And it started a few years ago with the national anthem and taken a knee, and the public immediately showed what they thought about that. And you've got basically a country that so many people are. Everybody in the world's watching this game, but the American audience is so vast, and what they wanna see on that field is a representation of what they feel America is. And I think that every year this thing gets crazier, more outlandish, more sex driven, less morality, less about faith, less about country. And I just think there's quite a few hundred million Americans out there that have just said, enough. We've had enough. And that was the reason to try to be a voice for those voices that are just being completely silenced by the music industry. For me to try to get this song out, I can give you a great example. The week after I released this song, Bruce Springsteen comes out with an anthem about Minneapolis. And it's an anti trump and it's an anti ice lyric, and it's immediately embraced and wrapped around, and it goes to number one, where my song, they won't even. They tell me it's too right wing. They can't play it on the radio. And that's what we're up against. As a conservative, a musical listener, you can't find the music unless I find a way. I Have to creep and crawl to find a way to get it out there to the public that really wants to hear it. And the main thing is, Andrew, everywhere I've gone, playing this song live before I released it, everywhere I went and played the song live, people are on their feet. They're just immediately on their feet, cheering. And I knew that I was hitting a nerve, and so to have them push back at me and not help me promote it was a tough thing. For a guy that's been around for 45 years, it's a tough thing, but, you know, you just have to find ways and, you know, people want to hear it. So you keep pushing for the truth. That's all you can do.

[Andrew]

Blake is our resident huge, massive country fan. Any thoughts, Blake?

[Blake]

I mean, I'm very glad. No, I'm. And I am very glad about. About the reaction. It's just you were saying, Andrew, like, you grew up around ranchers. I grew up around a lot of ranchers, too. It just did. It did not. I didn't. You know, like Charlie, I was not born with the country gene in my brain. But I'm very. I'm very glad that you've shown that love for Charlie, Jeffrey. I'm very glad your song is a hit for that reason. And I'm. I'm glad the all American halftime show was a hit. If people want to hear country music, they should hear country music. I just might go put on rock music instead.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Absolutely. And I think to put it down. To put down the halftime show and to put down somebody's work, I mean, this is America. It's free speech. We should be able to get it all out there. Either we get all of it out there or we get none of it out there. And that the one thing that Charlie was was a voice for everybody. He was a voice for everybody that felt like they didn't have a voice. That was his whole mission, to bring what he knew and just try to bring some common sense to everything he spoke about and let people have a microphone and have a voice to speak their minds. And that really was the basis of the song. So there was no way I couldn't include that in the song. I had to speak to him and what he did for young Americans.

[Andrew]

Good for you, Jeffrey. So how do people get the song? How do they support you? 30 seconds left, Jeffrey. Okay.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Through all the traditional means, whether it's itunes, Spotify, all the streaming services, you can go to jeffreesteel.com and that will link you right to it. That's probably the easiest way, but. And look for me, I'll be around all around the country playing this song. But it's available at all your normal streaming, Spotify, Pandora, all of them, anywhere, iTunes and jeffreesteel.com a voice. Be a voice. We've got.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Amen. God bless you. I mean, you're a legend in the space. And thank you for honoring our friend in the way that you have and for standing firm, keeping his name in there. God bless you. Jeffrey.

[John Solomon]

Thank you.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Thank you for giving me a minute. I appreciate you guys. Thank you.

[Andrew]

Absolutely. All right, we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere.

[Tyler Boyer]

Fact First America first.

[Andrew]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Blake]

That feel to represent your country like.

[Andrew]

This, it feels amazing. I love representing the US I freaking love living there. I love it, and I'm so happy I get to represent you as. Hey, Blake, isn't it just so nice that all of our Olympians are just, you know, honoring the flag Patriots just being so gracious in their interviews in Milan, isn't it? Only.

[Blake]

If only that were the case. Andrew.

[Andrew]

Why don't you start us off? Blake, what. What's the most offensive this year?

[Blake]

First of all, I'm going to say the real. The real villain hero, of course, are the press, because they're the ones who ask questions, I don't think. It's not like the Oscars where everyone goes up on stage and like, they're instantly. They're chomping at the bit to go out and be like, by the way, screw America. It's that every single person, after they compete, after they win a medal, there's some hack with a media badge who's like, oh, does it feel awkward to compete for your evil, demon, fascist country? Which they'll never ask anyone in any other country. So the one that's been in the news lately that stood out is freestyle skater Hunter Hess, who had some negative vibes. We'll show that clip. 310 mixed emotions to represent the US.

[Andrew]

Right now, I think it's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't. If it aligns with my moral values, I feel like I'm representing it. Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S. so, yeah, I just kind of want to do it for my friends and my family and the people that support me getting here.

[Blake]

And it's all such a It's all such a rigged thing. There's, there's an American born skier, Eileen Gu. She's. She competed in, in China. The China. Last Winter Olympics were in China. She competed in those as an American born individual, but of Chinese descent. She's competing for China again. And she's like the perfect example because she's opined, oh, we need legal abortion in America. We need. She supports Black Lives Matter. And anytime Chinese internal policy of any kind comes up, she's like, I just, I do not comment on internal matters within the People's Republic of China. Like 100% a double standard, 100% nonsense. Nobody's ever going to badger her. How do you feel about internal events in Hong Kong? This or that. Treatment of dissidents? This or that. Political action by the Chinese government, which is vastly more authoritarian than anything going on under President Trump. Pure nonsense. But instead we get more of this. We have another clip. This is skater Amber Glenn. Clip 311.

[Andrew]

It's been a hard time for the community overall under this administration. It isn't the first time that we've had to come together at as a community and try and fight for our human rights. And now especially, it's not just affecting the queer community, but many other communities. I hope I can use my platform and my voice throughout these games to try and encourage people to stay strong in these hard times.

[Blake]

I know that a lot of people.

[Andrew]

Say you're just an athlete, like, stick to your job, shut up about politics. But politics affect us all. It is something that I will not.

[Blake]

Just be quiet about because it is.

[Andrew]

Something that affects us in our everyday lives. Deport. That's my word for them. Deport. I don't, I don't care. It's so absurd, obscene. That clip. We've played that one before because it was from pre. Before this. This is so offensive to so many people because, Blake, can you riddle me this? Like one policy from the Trump administration that is affecting LGBTQ plus Iowa, Whatever's one policy, I guess we're rolling back.

[Blake]

We'Re rolling back some of the transgender insanity. And then the other day, because of the rule that they said stop waving pride flags at government facilities, they took down the pride flag at the Stonewall National Monument, which I got a big kick out of, but I feel like that's the biggest atrocity. Obviously, they're not doing anything on, certainly not their right to exist or whatever hyperbolic rhetoric you'll find online.

[Andrew]

It's so offensive to me because, listen, all these people enjoy wonderful lives. They have Amazing opportunities because of this country. If you can't say nothing nice, just don't say anything at all. And you're right, Blake, it's these media villains that come in and they try and bait athletes that have no media training that don't know how to kind of weave out of a stupid question. They were doing this, by the way, at the Australian Open as well. It was one guy who kept going around saying, what is it like in this terrible time in your fascist dictatorial country? And it's completely a rigged game. They're not asking anybody else this. I mean, why don't they go ask British athletes, say, well, what does it feel like to have your whole country invaded by Muslims? Is it really hard to represent your country? No, no, no questions about that. What about the COVID up of the rape gangs? No, none of it. And this is part of, you know, we're victims of our own success here. And Blake, you've probably experienced this when you travel abroad. The foreign media covers like half of their own country and then half of their programming is just devoted to anything that's going on in America. So the entire world feels like they're entitled to opine on American domestic politics.

[Blake]

Oh yeah, it's. We are 100% victims of our own success. And like, and just how fascinating we are there. I've seen people joke where it's like Canadians notoriously follow, often follow American politics more than their own politics. A lot of Europeans, as you say, it's 50, 50. And I guess we're also just victims of the nature of modern sports media. If you're, if you're a sports journalist, probably no one's going to care that much about your curling athletes unless, oh, if you can get them to say something. Bashing ice, bashing the administration. It's now a general story which they were completely successful at. We have clip 361.

[Andrew]

But we'd be remiss if we didn't at least mention what's going on in Minnesota and what a tough time it's been for everybody. I am a lawyer, as you know, and we do the cost. We, we have a constitution and it allows us to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, protects us from unreasonable searches and seizures and makes it that we have to, you know, have probable cause to be pulled over. And what's happening in Minnesota is wrong. There's no shades of gray. It's clear. Yeah, you know what? It is wrong what's happening in Minnesota because these agitators should stop harassing law Enforcement, you dunce man.

[Blake]

They really. Anyone can become a curler is what I got from that video. It's like, oh, it's like 45 year old old lawyer looking guy. But to make sure we get this in, Vice President Vance had a very good response to Hunter Hess's comments that we showed a few. We need to play that.

[Andrew]

363 Olympic athletes were unbelievable and I know the entire country is rooting for them.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Yes, you're going to have some Olympic.

[Andrew]

Athletes who pop off about politics. I feel like that happens every Olympics. My advice to them would be to try to bring the country together. And when you rush representing the country, you're representing Democrats and Republicans.

[Jeffrey Steele]

You're there to play a sport and.

[Andrew]

You'Re there to represent your country and hopefully win a medal.

[Jeffrey Steele]

You're not there to pop off about politics.

[Andrew]

So when Olympic athletes enter the political arena, they should expect some pushback. But most Olympic athletes, whatever their politics, are doing a great job are certainly enjoy the support of the entire country. And I think recognize that the way.

[Jeffrey Steele]

To bring the country together is not.

[John Solomon]

To show up in a foreign country.

[Andrew]

Country and attack the President. United States. Let me translate that for you. Shut up and dribble. That's it. That's all we want you to do. We'll be back. We're gonna do around the horn turning point action endorsements with Tyler Boyer.

[Tyler Boyer]

We'll be right back.

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[Andrew]

All right, welcome back, everybody. We have Tyler Boyer in the studio. We're about to get to it in a round the horn sort of what races to watch, what endorsements have we just made? I've seen some chatter online about it, so we wanted to bring Tyler Boyer in to get to all of it. But first, I'm going to tell you about our friends over at StrongCell. I actually really mean this. This is not just, you know, me speaking out of both ends. This is true. When I would travel around with Charlie, we would always get asked about Strong Sell. I don't know what it was, but the message just resonated. And I think it's because people are struggling with brain fog. They're struggling with word recall, they're struggling with chronic illness or chronic fatigue. So you got to give Strong Cell a chance. Let it help you. I take it every day. I actually packed a bunch for the road here in Palm Beach. And what it is is a proprietary delivery mechanism that they've developed that of nadh, which is an enzyme that helps power every single cell in your body. And it's, it really works. It just really works. It's a supplement that really works. It will give you energy. So. And now what the the best part is, you can try it 90 day risk free with a money back guarantee. And if you use promo Code charlie at checkout. You will save 20%. So please give us give it a try. Go to strongcell.com no, that is not where we're holding Kamala Harris or Anthony Fauci. StrongCell.com Doc StrongCell.com promo code Charlie at checkout for 20 off 90 day money back, risk free guarantee. Check it out today. Unfortunately, that is not a strong sell where we keep corrupt politicians. All right, now we are into it. I believe Tyler and Blake are in The Phoenix the Bitcoin.com studio. Tyler, welcome to the show.

[Tyler Boyer]

What's up, Andrew?

[Andrew]

You know the drill. Yeah. Hey, man. So I started seeing, we made a bunch of announcements about endorsements in the state of Texas. I started seeing a bunch of chatter online. Why don't you walk us through it and then we're going to go race by race where we're looking and how Turning Point action is getting involved and what the audience can do to help.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. So we actually just made a lot of different endorsements. You can actually go see all of turning Point action's endorsements live in real time as they come out. And this is kind of peak endorsement season. Usually the first quarter of the year of the election is when a lot of endorsements are coming out. So you see a lot of different organizations making them. We've been pretty judicious about our endorsements at turning Point Action. Most of it's based off of our scorecard. But you can go see our [e-mail] endorsements. That's tpaction.com endorsements. And again, a lot of what we do when we make endorsements, we're making them around what their score looks like if they have a record. So our scorecard, we're pretty tough graders where we've been kind of hailed as the toughest graders. We have other issues. We particularly emphasize we have an all encompassing scorecard. So if you go to our scorecard, we have a bunch of different issues. The key issues that we cover are typically a scorecard will cover one issue. Like for example, the NRAS covers second amendment issues. Ours covers American culture, big tech and free speech, border security, educational freedom, school choice, election integrity, health and medical freedom, second amendment, taxes and spending. So we kind of COVID all of it. And that's what goes into our scoring for how we make endorsements. And then those that don't have a record, we give them a questionnaire to fill out and based off of their answers that they give in the questionnaire that matches up with how the Most recent voting goes, that's typically how we'll start placing endorsements with our team. But yeah, so we just made some critical endorsements in Texas and Texas statewide candidates. There's two very interesting ones. Ken Paxton, who's running for U.S. senate, who's leading the polls right now, doing very well, supported by the conservatives across the state. And then Chip Roy, who has been a member of the Freedom Caucus for AG to replace Kim Paxton, were kind of the two big movers and shakers, some other big ones.

[Andrew]

And just if we pause there, I saw people commenting. So it's sort of a well known fact that Ken, who he endorsed for Senate, and Congressman Chiproy, who we endorse for ag, have a little bit of history. People are like, I can't believe you endorse both or whatever. Listen, we're, we both come on the show, both have been great patriots, both have stood by, turning point by Charlie. Is there anything you want to just say about that particular dynamic? Because it is something people have brought up.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, I mean, everybody's got an opinion. No one's perfect in politics. Right. So there's always going to be a situation when you do endorsements where, you know, somebody's, you know, upset. We, we don't generally wade into endorsements lightly. So again, we have a very judicious approach that we take, which is, you know, it's not, you're just endorsing someone because they're friends with somebody. We look at their score, we look at their record, we look at the, the polling that exists right now. Do they have a chance to win? Blake just brought up on a recent podcast that we did the Buckley Rule, which is you want to, you want to. The most conservative candidate, the most conservative candidate that has the best chance of winning. And so that's kind of, that's kind of the approach that we take with things is they need to have a great, great record, they need to bring, bring back a questionnaire, they need to be recommended by people we trust. But then, you know, we kind of grill them, we talk to them, we, you know, court them, talk to them for a long time and see kind of where they end up. And based off of that, that's how we come to things. We also prioritize states that matter the most. So you'll notice on our scorecard, most of the states are swing states. And then we just started wading into a state like Texas, which has a primary that's coming up here in the next week, week or two here, where you have early ballots starting to drop. And the election is going to take place in March. So that's kind of the approach that we take with everything. Again, very judicious, very focused. No one is perfect in politics. So you're always going to have a situation where you feel like somebody has some, you know, susceptibility to lose or that they have a quality that you don't like or a vote that they made that you don't like, or a statement that they said that you don't like. That's pretty much on both sides. You kind of, in most cases want to find the person that aligns most with the value system and then has the most importance for us to win long term and help help the elections in 2026 and 2028. And so if you look at our statewides right now, obviously one of our earliest endorsements, Charlie's endorsement, Andy Biggs, you know, former chairman of the Freedom Caucus here in Arizona. Byron Donald's running for Florida.

[Blake]

We have, we have Ken Paxton on the wrong part. We have his, his run for US Senate on the state endorsements instead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta move that.

[John Solomon]

That.

[Andrew]

It's on the federal. It's on the federal, too.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's supposed to be up on the federal. So they're there.

[Andrew]

It is.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. They just, I think they, they duplicated there. But, but yeah, that's. You have Joe Lombardo running for Nevada governor. You have Bert Jones running for Georgia governor. Marsha Blackburn, obviously, who's been a friend of the organization for a long time. These are kind of, we're laying out the future here and many more will come. Congresswoman Harriet Hageman just recently announced she's running for U.S. senate. So we have a couple of U.S. senate. We have a couple of really interesting congressional endorsements that we made. Michael Alfonso, who will be the youngest member of Congress should he get elected to replace Tom Tiffany in Wisconsin again, swing state, great young dude. He was at America Fest. Incredible, incredible talent. Great family. Beautiful, beautiful family. Joe Mitchell, who's in Iowa, who will again also be one of the youngest members of Congress. So, yeah, there's just some really exciting, really exciting hope for the future, I think when you go through this. And again, a great place to put your focus, energy, money, time, energy, and to help us chase votes ultimately when it comes to the end of this election, the end of this year.

[Andrew]

So there's a lot of questions about that. And I do want to just reiterate real quick that this is. We've got Michael Alfonso and Joe Mitchell, really one of Our focuses here at Turning Point Action is finding that next generation of talent of next generation of conservative leaders that really can not only do a good job in Congress, but that have bright futures ahead of them wherever they choose to go, whether that's stay in Congress or run for Senate or governor. So Joe Mitchell in Iowa and Michael Alfonso are in Wisconsin are two really great shooting stars that you want to keep your eye on. And we'll have more of those coming out in the months ahead also. So Tyler, there's a lot of question about where Turning Point Action is going to be. Deploying resources, paid staff, ballot chasing ahead of the midterms. Now we have kind of a 2028 vision for things, but we're also working on 2026, maybe walk the audience through where we're focusing our attention the most.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. So our, our top. So we are the only national organization in the conservative movement that has full time staff in all the swing states. So, you know, actually right now as we're speaking, we have a training class that's over in our Turning Point Action building that I just came from, that I just spoke to where we are training up staff to be deployed to Indiana. We have staff that are being deployed to all the swing states. Indiana, of course, just as a refresher, we had the individuals in the state Senate that blocked redistricting that would have given us at least another House seat in Indiana. And so that's. So it's of utmost importance to hold those people accountable. And so we have staff that are being deployed out there for candidates that are running. But then in the swing states, of course, so Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Ohio, those are all the key states where there are key races, fundamental races in many of those states, a majority of those states in 2026 that are crucial for us to win and set the stage for 2028 for a candidate JD Vance, or a really strong Republican ticket that is going to come forth, of course, through the pathway, the normal pathway of Iowa, the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire where we have full time staff. So again, we're laying the ground game now and anyone getting involved with Turning Point Action now is directly helping again, set the table, lay the foundation for 2028. And this couldn't be more critical because 2028 is going to define whether we win or lose long term, specifically around the census and redistricting for 2030. If we lose the presidency in 2028 and we do not set the table correctly in 2026, in all these states, you lose 20, 28, you lose the country maybe for a generation. So it's really, really critical that we win.

[Andrew]

Blake, on the next segment, since you, you spent so much time in D.C. i want to get into staffing. Like, what would the implication of staffing if you have four years of President Trump and then let's just say another four years of J.D. maybe Marcos is VP, maybe you get eight years. What kind of momentum you can build from a staffing perspective? Because one of the things that's good about President Trump having a term off, so we got to kind of clear the table and bring in real, real talent. Right. But it also meant that Joe Biden had four years to kind of keep staffing and replace people in the bureaucracy, which was a problem. Also, breaking news here. The U.S. house has approved rule for the Save America Act. The bill requires proof of citizenship to vote. It passed 216 to 215. The only GOP no vote was, you guessed it. I'm almost certain you guessed it. Thomas Massie voted.

[Blake]

The downfall of Thomas Massie is a very heartbreaking story. And we'll have to talk about it sometime when it's all over.

[Andrew]

We should did we endorse Tyler? Never mind. Hold your thought. We'll be right back.

[Blake]

All right.

[Andrew]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. We're going to get into Thomas Massey and some other fun topics. Nate Morris want to tell you about why refi first, however, right here@the Bitcoin.com mobile studio in Palm Beach. But Tyler and Blake are holding it down in Phoenix. Your one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin. But let me tell you about our friends [e-mail] amazing patriots. If you have private student loan debt, please check them out. About $300 billion of private student loan debt in the country, 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed or defaulted. There's a lot of you out there that are struggling with this or you know somebody that is. So if you know a family member, if your son or daughter is struggling with it, if your, if you've got your mom or dad as a cosigner on your loan, please check them out. They don't care what your credit score is. They care about helping you. And I told you this a couple times. I've been to their offices recently. Their whole reason for being, I'm not kidding, they wake up and they get in that office and they take calls from you when you call them. 888 yrefi 34 and they want to help you. They, they're kind of like grief counselors sometimes because you were calling them in dire straits and they know it and they take that seriously. So please, there's no shame in this. If you find yourself in a position with private student loan debt that is getting out of control, they want to help and they've heard it all. So you don't have anything to hide. Please do not let shame or guilt or depression get in the way. Call them 888yrefi34 or log on at yrefi.com why refi.com please check it out. All right, so we just found out that Thomas Massie is apparently anti the SAVE act, which puts him out of step with the entire entirety of the conservative movement, basically. Pretty, pretty. Yeah. We. There's some fireworks also on the House floor because Pam Bondi is just level. Just went after him directly as well. Lots going on today.

[Blake]

Yeah, she was testifying about the Epstein files today, so he was digging into her. Hopefully we can get that clip. That'd be interesting. But yeah, Tyler, there's literally no excuse.

[Tyler Boyer]

To be anti save that.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Steele]

Not.

[Tyler Boyer]

I mean, there's zero excuse. Like literally it's an 80 20. Like at this point you just look ridiculous.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean, I feel quiet on the Massey thing, but this is, this is obscene. How do you know against the same.

[Blake]

Yeah, I mean I've been, this is.

[Tyler Boyer]

You know, all the arguments that have been made pro Massey and again, we, we've been historically. Charlie was friendly with Thomas and you know, there's that. I think one of the best YouTube videos I've ever watched was him, you know, putting in a Tesla cell to power his off the grid house.

[Blake]

He's such an impressive guy. You really want to love him.

[Tyler Boyer]

He's incredible.

[Blake]

From the abs, you know, impoverished town in Kentucky. He goes to mit, marries his high school sweetheart, builds his off the grid house, has his like battery powered national debt clock that he wears around. A very impressive guy in a lot of ways, but I do think he's feuded with President Trump a long time. He feuded with him in the first term and I do think that's warped him a bit over time, but you could offer more perspective on that.

[Tyler Boyer]

I think what happens is you just get a certain people in Congress unfortunately get sucked into just talking to the people who fund them the most, which I think is actually antithetical to what the idea of Congress is supposed to be. The idea of Congress is supposed to be originally was that you are representative of the People. It was a certain amount of people. It was a lot smaller of a group of people in America at the time when it was originally devised. And you were deeply influenced by your actual community. And unfortunately, congressmen have. I think it's 700 and some odd thousand people that they represent. And so the reality of representing people just doesn't happen. And so when you're peppered by people who talk to you the most, which end up being your fundraisers and the people who give you money and the people who influence you the most or have been your ideological fan boys or fangirls, you listen to those people the most and they warp your. They warp your sense of representation.

[Andrew]

And I think that.

[Tyler Boyer]

That people fall prey to that on the left, for sure. We see that all the time. Obviously we see that with the entire Democrat Party, but we see it happen on the right, you know, fairly frequently, where these people are just become fairly warped and inaccessible and they just become, you know, full of vitriol for, you know, again, the President or for a specific piece of legislation. They get warped and then it crashes their career. Instead of being balanced, which I think Thomas Massey has been balanced for most of his career, and he's. It's unfortunate to see him go against the same act.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And I think, you know, you know, my. Genuinely, I felt terrible for Thomas Massie when he lost his wife. The President's been opining on Truth Social, though, that his new wife is leading him down this very liberal path. And who knows, you know, it's not really. You can't really know that sort of thing. But this is that fiery exchange I was just telling you about. We have it loaded now between Attorney General Pam Bondi and Thomas Massie, the floor of the House 419 chairman.

[Blake]

Within 40 minutes.

[Andrew]

You asked me a question.

[Blake]

Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back. Within 40 minutes of me catching you red handed.

[Andrew]

Red hand.

[Blake]

There was one redaction where he's listed.

[Andrew]

As a Coke and we invited you in. This guy has Trump derangement syndrome.

[Blake]

He needs to get.

[Andrew]

You're a failed politician.

[Blake]

That was illustrious. Constitutional Republican action, no. Yeah. She was mad like that. They had Wexer's name blacked out on something, which evidently they knew he was there because he could call it out and then they put it in within 40 minutes. It's such a bizarre thing to think.

[Andrew]

But Blake, Blake, they're also getting mad at the lack of redactions, too. They're saying it's too messy. There's not enough Redactions. There's people on both sides of this debate. There has been such a push from grassroots on the left and the right, politicians on the left and the right, to get this stuff out. They pushed it all out based on this act that was passed, and now there's people saying, not enough redactions, too many redactions. So it's a complete mess either way you look at it.

[Blake]

Is Massie the first politician to go downhill big time when he grew a beard? Like, J.D. vance got way better with the beard. I feel like usually growing a beard is awesome for a politician.

[Tyler Boyer]

I think, I think it goes either way. I think it's like, you know, when they talk about, you know, women changing their hair color dramatically, it's like either it's really good or really indicative of something not going well. Yeah, I think that's. That's beards for men.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Blake]

I don't know as. As a beard grower myself.

[Tyler Boyer]

You're doing great.

[Blake]

I. Yeah, I'm territorial. We want it to be an improvement.

[Tyler Boyer]

You slow rolled into it. Yeah, you've got you, but you've gotten the full, like I'm trying to get you to go. The full linen.

[Blake]

You know, let's not go too far here yet, Tyler, before we close, Andrew, I just, I do want to emphasize that point you mentioned, why it is so important that we win. Because it does come down to who's staffing things in D.C. and as much as we think Trump did have the chance to improve because they spent four years in the wilderness and they learned a lot from mistakes, and they came out like a cannonball, the biggest loss they had was they had four years of appointments interrupted, four years of Biden, and then they resume. And you saw this with Obama, especially. A lot of consolidation happens in the second half of an administration, and especially in a second term, you just, you have a full, like a kind of generation of federal hires who are controlled by a process, and there's all these rule changes. You basically need till the end of this term for President Trump to win every Supreme Court case. He's going to have to win to have strong control over federal hiring. And then you'll get that in the second half. So that's why all of these turning point endorsements, these Turnpoint action endorsements matter. That's why we need them to win, so that we can win in 28. It's all about consolidation.

[Andrew]

Can you imagine 12 years of hiring, 12 years of hiring at the federal level.

[Tyler Boyer]

We have to win 20, 28, and we need people to work together. We've got to work. We got to stick together as a.

[Andrew]

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