The Charlie Kirk Show, February 13, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show (Real America’s Voice)

Episode Date: February 13, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk (with Blake, Mikey McCoy, Sagar Enjeti, and guest contributors)
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode covers a sweeping range of topics at the intersection of American politics, culture, and current events. Charlie Kirk and his co-hosts address Trump administration border and immigration policy, the heated Senate nomination battle over Jeremy Carl, the ongoing debate over marijuana legalization, the latest developments in the Epstein files, and listener-driven discussions on culture, gender, and institutional reform. The show features segments with Sagar Enjeti, interactive “Ask Us Anything” Q&A, and a vigorous defense of conservative perspectives on American sovereignty, demographic change, and family values.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump Administration’s Border Security Surge and Drawdown

• [02:26 - 07:04]
  • Context: A government official discusses the wind-down of a federal “surge operation” of law enforcement in Minnesota, meant to target public safety threats and deliver on President Trump’s “mass deportation” pledge.
  • Charlie Kirk’s Reaction: Skeptical “cautious optimism” about the drawdown, highlighting damage done: “They left with economic ruin. In some cases, they left us with many unanswered questions. Where are our children?” (03:36)
  • Co-host Commentary: Data shows 77% of those detained in the surge had no criminal record, some were children. They charge the operation as motivated by “retribution,” citing Trump’s own words: “This war on Minnesota is retribution, to be sure ... It comes at a cost, Senators. It comes at a cost of the lives of two US citizens, Renee Good and Alex Predding. It comes at the cost of shuttered businesses.” (04:38)
  • Surge Criticisms Leveraged: Cites increases in threats, assaults, and attacks on ICE officers (over 8,000% in some categories).

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2. Senate Confirmation Clash: Jeremy Carl’s Nomination and Identity Politics

• [09:44 - 15:42]
  • Topic: The nomination of Jeremy Carl as Assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations, a pick closely linked to Kirk and Turning Point’s influence.
  • Focus: The show frames Carl as “mainstream America First”—qualified, but targeted with accusations of “anti-white racism,” antisemitism, and bigotry.
  • Notable Quote:
    • Charlie Kirk: “Well, they’re calling him a white supremacist. ... and antisemitic. Well, Jeremy Carl grew up as a Jew, which is hilarious.” (12:22)
  • Key Soundbite (Senator Rosen):
    • “Identity does not excuse anti-Semitism. ... Identity does not excuse racism. ... Words matter, as my colleagues have said.” (13:16)
  • Clip Analysis: The hosts view the attacks as Senate fixation on identity and anti-Israel comments, attacking the left for “using wokeness as a sword.”
  • Co-host (Blake) on Senate battle:
    • “A huge number of the attacks on Israel are ultimately attacks on Western civilization, attacks on white people, through that coded lens. And they fixate on him because he said things, which Charlie himself did ...” (14:07)
  • Broader Argument: The right frames Senate opposition to Carl as proof of Democratic “hysteria” over ordinary populist views, not extremism.

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3. Debate over Demographics and “Great Replacement” Theory

• [15:42 - 23:56]
  • Segment Structure: Kirk and co-hosts play and dissect Senate hearing clips (notably with Senator Booker and the Castro brothers) about the “great replacement” theory.
  • Core Claim: The Democratic Party is accused of openly celebrating and engineering demographic change for political power, as described in their own words.
  • Blake: “They cannot win with the historical American population, so they have banked on bring in a new population.” (22:05)
  • Charlie Kirk: “If you don't think for a second that they're not banking on demographic change to change the political future of this country, you are a fool and you’re not paying attention.” (23:14)
  • Statistical Evidence: Social Security number issuances and naturalization surges in 2024 posited as further evidence that the left is trying to “juice” elections.

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4. “Woke Is Not Dead”: Resurgence and Institutional Entrenchment

• [23:56 - 25:15]
  • Core Argument: The progressive movement (“woke”) is regrouping in government and cultural strongholds despite setbacks in the 2024 elections.
  • Charlie Kirk: “Woke is not dead. Woke took a beating in 2024 ... And you just see this with the Democrats in the Senate about Jeremy Carl, a man once again extremely competent, extremely qualified, who holds mainstream conservative views ...”

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5. Marijuana Legalization—A Cautionary Tale

• [31:30 - 42:33]
  • Guest: Sagar Enjeti
  • Blake’s introduction: Sagar as a leading anti-marijuana legalization voice, vindicated by recent mainstream media admissions.
  • Sagar’s Argument:
    • “We have, you know, millions, tens of millions, almost 5% of the US population ... using marijuana, high potency marijuana on a daily basis. This is lobotomizing a significant portion of our population. It lowers IQ, it lowers testosterone. It's dangerous for pregnant women.” (32:24)
  • Pushback on Medical Use Claims: Sagar and the hosts challenge the medical efficacy touted by pro-cannabis lobbyists and users—“a massive study just came out ... shows almost all the claims on medical marijuana are completely fake.”
  • Libertarian Argument Rebutted:
    • Sagar: “When your freedom begins to have high levels of societal costs ... we have to have well established norms ... nobody is saying that you holding a dime bag should send you to jail. What I am saying is that we need very well established norms and regulation ...” (38:59)
  • Anecdotal Email: A listener’s story of weed-linked psychosis and addiction is read, reinforcing the drug’s risks.
  • Charlie Kirk’s Summation: References 1 Cor 6:12 (“I will not be mastered by anything.”), urging listeners to overcome addiction of any kind.

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6. Epstein Files: Intelligence, Blackmail, and Power

• [43:01 - 50:28]
  • Wall Street Journal Op-ed referenced: Contrarian view that Epstein’s crimes are overblown, and no grand blackmail conspiracy existed.
  • Sagar’s Counter-Argument:
    • Intelligence agency involvement is critical: “This is a person with a fake Austrian passport at the height of the Cold War ... This is a person in a relationship with the Khashoggi family ... at the heart and center of Iran-Contra.” (48:39)
    • There’s no evidence of the financial genius Epstein claimed; money came from “either blackmail and other types of criminality.”
    • Maintains that intelligence connections enabled Epstein’s uniquely protected and criminal lifestyle, even if the sex trafficking was less “salacious” than some believe.

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7. “Ask Us Anything” Q&A — Culture, Gender, Institutional Renewal

• [55:56 - 97:59]
  • Listener Kelsey: Asks for the female version of the “Good times create weak men...” cycle. Discussion centers on women’s societal roles, the effects of “feminized culture,” and the importance of balance.
    • Helen Andrews’ theory: “Feminization equals wokeness. Everything you think of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization.” (63:18)
  • Anthony (Listener): On GOP renewal—how do young conservatives displace the “old guard” at local levels? Kirk: Build parallel organizations (like Turning Point Action), inject “new blood,” create outside groups to energize the grassroots.
  • Christine (Listener): Suggests “family events” for Turning Point chapters; Kirk encourages the idea, highlighting the need for local and family-based conservative engagement.
  • Mick (Listener): Asks for practical advice for high school graduates not going to college. Mikey McCoy: “Identify the most successful people you know ... beg for a meeting ... offer to work for free, be exceptional, work hard, and you’ll get hired.” (85:24)
  • Brandon (Listener): Questions about the Anti-Federalists’ legacy—main takeaway is the Bill of Rights and skepticism of judicial overreach, agreeing that explicit protections were vital.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• On Border Operations:

  • “We are cautiously optimistic ... this surge of untrained, aggressive federal agents are going to leave Minnesota ... they left with deep damage, generational trauma.” – Charlie Kirk (03:09)
  • “ICE’s own data shows that 77% of those it has detained in Minnesota have no criminal record at all. Notoriously, some of those detained have been children.” – Guest (03:45)

• Jeremy Carl Nomination:

  • “Well, they’re calling him a white supremacist ... and antisemitic. Well, Jeremy Carl grew up as a Jew, which is hilarious.” – Charlie Kirk (12:22)

• Great Replacement Theory:

  • “You think there’s an active effort to, quote, unquote, replace Americans right now, Senator, I think the Democratic Party through its immigration policies has certainly shown signs of that.” – Jeremy Carl (15:44/16:17 Senate hearing replay)
  • “If you don’t think for a second that they’re not banking on demographic change to change the political future of this country, you are a fool and you’re not paying attention.” – Charlie Kirk (23:14)

• On Marijuana:

  • “This is lobotomizing a significant portion of our population. It lowers IQ, it lowers testosterone. It’s dangerous for pregnant women.” – Sagar Enjeti (32:24)
  • “The worship of it by many of its users ... Alcoholics do not try to justify their alcohol use by saying that it’s curing them. It’s a shameful activity. And I frankly, I think it should be ... exactly the same thing of marijuana.” – Sagar (32:40)
  • Listener email: “I lived the weed psychosis nightmare myself. And I watched as my boyfriend, who was a heavy user, began to succumb to delusions and erratic behavior. ... With praise and thanks to God, I am now free of both the weed and the relationship.” (89:58)

• On Epstein:

  • “This is a person with a fake Austrian passport at the height of the Cold War ... an expert in money laundering ... which is what enabled these arms deals with Israel, with the Cote d’Ivoire, with Russia ...” – Sagar (48:39)

• Culture & Gender Cycles:

  • “But if you want to put it in a single sentence, you could say that feminization equals wokeness. Everything you think of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization.” – Helen Andrews clip (63:18)

• Advice to Non-College Grads:

  • “I want to come work for you. I will do whatever it takes. I'll be the first to arrive, the last to leave ... You have to be so positive ... If you are a standout, exceptional, they will hire you.” – Mikey McCoy and Charlie Kirk (85:24/86:24)

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Key Timestamps Index

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:26–07:04 | Border security surge drawdown & community impacts | | 09:44–15:42 | Senate nomination battle: Jeremy Carl | | 15:42–23:56 | Great replacement theory/Democratic immigration strategy | | 31:30–42:33 | Marijuana: societal impact & policy debate (with Sagar) | | 43:01–50:28 | Epstein files: intelligence, finance, blackmail (with Sagar)| | 55:56–65:17 | Ask Us Anything: gender cycles, institutional wokeness | | 65:42–97:59 | Ask Us Anything: party activism, practical career advice |

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Tone & Style

The episode is vigorously opinionated, blending irreverence and sharp-tongued skepticism with a sense of embattled populism. The hosts make frequent references to "mainstream media hysteria," "woke" excesses, and perceived anti-conservative bias, while offering practical advice and encouragement to their audience to engage, organize, and uphold traditional American, familial, and religious values. Listener engagement is lively and deeply integrated into the show’s rhythm.

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For Newcomers

This episode offers a comprehensive, unfiltered look at contemporary conservative thought in America: cultural anxieties, demographic concerns, battles over government power and institutional direction, and a defense of “America First” populism. It’s candid, combative, and meant as a rallying point for engaged, values-driven listeners—always punctuated by listener interaction and a dash of self-aware humor.

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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Government Official or Law Enforcement Representative]

With that and success that has been made arresting public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began, as well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have obtained from state officials and local law enforcement, I have proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude a significant drawdown has already been underway this week and will continue through the next week. We have a lot of work to do across this country to remove public safety risk who shouldn't even be in this country, and to deliver on President Trump's promise for strong border security, mass deportation. Law enforcement officers drawing down from this surge operation will either return to the duty station or be signed elsewhere to achieve just that.

[Charlie Kirk]

We are cautiously optimistic, as we've said, and that this surge of untrained, aggressive federal agents are going to leave Minnesota and I guess they'll go wherever they're going to go.

[Government Official or Law Enforcement Representative]

But the fact of the matter is.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

They left us with deep damage, generational trauma.

[Charlie Kirk]

They left with economic ruin. In some cases, they left us with many unanswered questions. Where are our children?

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

ICE's own data shows that 77% of those it has detained in Minnesota have no criminal record at all. Notoriously, some of those detained have been children. Is five year old Liam Canejo Ramos the worst of the worst? Or 10 year old Elizabeth Zunya Casaguano? The surge is contributing to violent crime members. It's contributing to violent crime. Two of the three homicides committed in Minneapolis in 2026 have come at the hands of federal immigration agents. What's clear, this surge is all about what Donald Trump said it was all about. In a true social post on January 13, he wrote retribution and reckoning was coming to Minnesota. This war on Minnesota is retribution, to be sure, our policies, our values and how we vote. And it comes at a great cost, Senators. It comes at a cost of the lives of two US citizens, Renee Good and Alex Predding. It comes at the cost of shuttered businesses. Mr. Chairman and I would like to.

[Charlie Kirk]

Enter a list, four page list of current sitting members of Congress that have made absolutely outrageous comments analogizing custom Customs and Border Patrol agents and ICE agents.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

To the Gestapo to a secret police.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that. Objection. I like to enter that in the record. And I think the second piece I'd like to enter the record is just some pretty outrageous statistics because we've talked about outrage here. Let's talk about outrage.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

8,043% increase in death to threats to.

[Charlie Kirk]

ICE agents in the last 12 months.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

8,043, 1426% increase in assaults against ICE officials.

[Charlie Kirk]

A 16,700 increase on threats of assault against your agents.

[Blake]

Both of you.

[Charlie Kirk]

A 33%, 3300% increase in vehicular attacks against your agents and a 964% increase.

[Blake]

Against officials like yourselves that are not.

[Charlie Kirk]

In the field every single day.

[Government Official or Law Enforcement Representative]

He sent me to Minneapolis to do three things de escalate.

[Charlie Kirk]

Done.

[Government Official or Law Enforcement Representative]

Take public safety threats off the street. Over 4,000 illegal aliens were arrested. Done. Gain cooperation from state and local law enforcement. So it makes the agent's job safer to arrest the public safety threat in the safety and security of a facility.

[Charlie Kirk]

Done.

[Government Official or Law Enforcement Representative]

But even though we're drawing down resources, we still want to have hundreds of special agents here drawn down on the, on the, on the fraud here from the somatic community and others. Those fraud investigations are going to continue until they're done. We're going to hold people responsible. We've also got investigators here doing the church investigation to prove Don Lemon we're not walking away from everything. We've achieved what we came here for. This is like any other surge. Operation la it ended. Los Angeles, it ended. Charlotte, it ended. New Orleans, it ended. This is ending the surge, but we're not going away. And let me say this, over 800 flights a day land in St. Paul, Minnesota. If we need to come back, we'll come back.

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[Blake]

Two of those a year.

[Sagar]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

As the assistant secretary of state for. Of state for international organizations, also referred to as assistant secretary of State.

[Blake]

It's basically one of our guys who goes to the UN and if that sounds like an odd thing to focus on, it's not. Because one of our roles with this show, one of the roles we have with Turning Point USA is we want to perpetuate Charlie's legacy. And one of the most immediate legacies he's had he has is the people he fought to put in the administration that he campaigned for. Get these are some of my favorite people. Give them a job in the administration. We've had Sarah Rogers on the show. She's one of the people he really wanted to superstar, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

She's amazing.

[Blake]

Well, we're going to be having her on again soon. She's all sorts of excitement.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can I just say, I was just, I literally just did an interview with Politico before the show started talking about Nate Morris in Kentucky and about how Charlie's endorsement of Nate is still propelling him forward in that race. So it looms large. And yes, to your point, this is an important one here with Jeremy Carr.

[Blake]

Yes. So Jeremy's another one he wanted. He was a frequent guest in our show. He was the author of the Unprotected.

[Charlie Kirk]

Class, which is one of those really.

[Blake]

Strong calling out how anti white racism has become this pervasive thing in America.

[Charlie Kirk]

In the future if you want to show that.

[Blake]

Not allowed to talk about it. But he did. And for that he's been facing persecution. We'll just say, yeah, persecution. Because he went before a Senate panel and had these parasites trash him for doing this. So this is a clip from yesterday. Senator Chris Murphy. Let's play clip 550.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mr. Carl, I think it's just heartbreaking that you have been nominated for this position and that you've reached a panel before the United States Senate. One of the things you have said is that anti white discrimination is the most pervasive and politically salient form of racism today. Certainly this is my belief. I'm not running away from that. I think that while of course all races in different contexts can be subject to really severe discrimination. That when we look at our legal structures white Americans are often very disfavored in overt ways.

[Blake]

Which is objectively true.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's completely the stance of this show.

[Blake]

Yes. In California right now they're fighting to change their law to be explicit. Oh, can we actually legally discriminate against white people? It's too hard for us to do it, you know, in. In the shadows. But in plenty of other states it is explicitly legal in our federal government. They've been doing it for ages and they've been throwing temper tantrums at the Trump administration's attempts to roll it back. And he's highlighted that. And for that they put him in the docket and just try to humiliate him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, they're calling him a white supremacist. Which is. It's funny because he's. And they're saying he's.

[Blake]

And an antisemite.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. Anti Semitic. Well Jeremy Carl grew up as a Jew. Which is hilarious. You could show these image images. 560561 so this is Senator Rosen. The Jews love to see themselves as oppressed is what he said. 561A post feminist America is one of falling fertility, rapidly rising out of wedlock bursts, religious collapse and an explosion of latchkey kids. All true. All true.

[Blake]

All 100% true.

[Charlie Kirk]

And that's Shaheen. Senator Shaheen. I don't know what the heck the problem is. It's like they think saying the truth is somehow beyond the pale now. And what's funny is. And we. What's the clip with Booker? This is. This is a fun one actually. Let's start here. 562 I think this is Senator Rosen.

562 Mr. Carl is infamous for deleting thousands of. Of his past tweets. But deleting tweets doesn't delete them. They recorded podcast interviews, public speeches, or editorials that he has done. As many of my colleagues have and will point out, Mr. Carl's vile anti Semitic comments are very real, whether he, not he, tried to erase them or excuse them. Some may try to excuse Mr. Carl's remarks, claiming his words were taken out of context, that he never said them, and that his own heritage protects him from criticism. So let me be clear. Identity does not excuse anti Semitism. Identity does not excuse racism. Identity does not excuse hateful rhetoric, regardless of who says them. Words matter, as my colleagues have said.

[Blake]

And she goes on like that for about two minutes. And it's so disgusting to me because this is what they fixated on. They're going to say, this guy is an anti Semite, so we can't appoint him to do President Trump's work at the UN or spoilers. One of the main things we do at the UN Is we actually have to constantly fend off resolutions that they do to basically attack two groups. They love passing resolutions at the UN to attack Israel, and they love passing resolutions at the UN to attack, like, settler countries, which always include America. So they'll do these, you know, indigenous rights things, all of that. And he's made it very clear he's going to pursue that agenda. He obviously understands, as Charlie did, that a huge number of the attacks on Israel are ultimately attacks on Western civilization, attacks on white people, like, you know, through that coded lens. And they fixate on him because he said things, which Charlie himself did that are basically the constant fights over Israel often derail American politics and are not a good thing. That's what he said.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. No, Jeremy Carl is a completely mainstream America first populous conservative guy. There's nothing, there's nothing that stand out about Jeremy in this, in the sort of ideological sense. The only thing standout about him is that he's going to be extremely effective in setting right a lot of the wrongs of the sort of, you know, transatlantic sort of liberal hegemony. Right. So here's. Here's one that I just love. This clip with Senator Cory Booker is just amazing. And we're going to prove just how stupid Senator Cory Booker is on the other side is.525.

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What do you mean when you say.

[Charlie Kirk]

That you believe in the great replacement theory? Senator, thank you for that question. This refers to the intentional demographic replacement of Europeans in Europe. It was invented by Renault Camus, who was a French scholar. You Think there's an active effort to, quote, unquote, replace Americans right now, Senator. I think the Democratic Party through its immigration policies has certainly shown signs of that.

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And I don't understand that.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't understand that.

[Blake]

There's a great tweet that went viral and so good that like so much discourse in America is just the left pretending not to understand things because of course they understand it. They'll brag about this, they'll have their meetings and they'll say, okay guys, here's the countdown until white people aren't, you know, politically. I mean, Jean Wu just had that thing, hey guys, we're actually the majority in this area. We should just take over.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like Wajahat Ali, you know, the mistake you made was letting us in in the first place. There is literally hours of footage from just the 2000s of progressives going on television bragging about the browning of America and how we're going to turn everything Democrat Party. This was the promise of the Obama years that the demographic shifts in America were going to deliver a permanent Democrat majority across the board because brown people vote Democrat. That was the whole point.

[Blake]

There have been left wing NGOs that have literally had a chart that's tracing out the, the white percentage of America in the future and they highlight the year it goes below 50%.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Blake]

And so that's what's going on. And I want to just make sure we hit this in this segment that Utah Senator John Curtis, a former Democrat but somehow now got himself elected as a Republican, has said that for now he's opposing Jeremy Carl's nomination.

[Charlie Kirk]

After reviewing his record and participating in today's hearing, I'm not convinced that Jeremy Carl is the right person to represent our nation's best interests in international forums. And I find his anti Israel views and insensitive remarks, remarks about Jews, unbecoming of the position for which he has been nominated. Curtis tells Deseret News. So we got rid of Romney and now we've got, you know, Tamu Romney here, John Curtis. So I'm gonna, we're gonna hold our, you know, most strident opposition to Mr. Curtis and hope he corrects course here. More on the other side of the.

[Sagar]

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[Sagar]

Texas is a very, very Republican state. But some people say the demographics are changing. And the demographics alone will make that it won't be so, so Republican next.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

Time around in a couple of presidential cycles, you'll be on election night. You'll be announcing that we're calling the 38 electoral votes of Texas for the Democratic nominee for president. It's changing. Going to become a purple state and then a blue state because of the demographics. Because of the population growth of folks from outside of Texas.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, I think that's right.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

But it's not going to happen on its own. The demographics are changing, but it's going to take a lot of work from Democrats to lay the infrastructure for change. So we're very busy working on that now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, okay. So the demographics are changing in Texas. That's how they plan to change Texas. Here's the truth. Democrats have not won the white vote in a national election. Yeah.

[Blake]

And they're highly aware of this in generations.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what do you make of it?

[Blake]

Cannot win with the historical American population. So they have banked on bring in a new population.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So what?

[Blake]

They'll even write about, oh, the betrayal, where they didn't do as well with a Hispanic vote in 2024. And like, oh, it's a betrayal, guys. The plan might have gone awry and they'll try to repeat it again. That's part of what the Biden operation was, is if people are assimilating too quickly to not being Democrats, we might have to really flood the zone. Let's let in 15 million people, amnesty them. That'll lock it in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and I'm going to have Danny pull this. Social Security numbers. The Biden administration in 2024 gave out a record number of Social Security numbers just to try and juice the election. I'm convinced. I mean, we're talking, if we get the graph here, I really want to find is stark. The difference between basically every other year and then 2024, they surged it. If you don't think for a second that they're not banking on demographic change to change the political future of this country, you are a fool and you're not paying attention. And I find this, that younger conservatives understand this completely. The older you get, the more you're operating under an old paradigm where you. I don't know if it's civil rights hangover. There you go. Look at 2024. That's how many Social Security cards that the numbers that the Biden administration rushed surged to get out. And candidly, in 2025, it's still too high. But it was probably a backlog, I'm told, from, you know, Biden pushing things through. So hopefully that number drops back down to where it should be. But that was intentional, right?

[Blake]

Like naturalizations, too. They were Trying to rubber stamp as many new citizenships as soon as they could. This was covered in the New York Times and I think other publications.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, this. This is a big thing. I think we wanted to highlight the Jeremy Carl instance because, you know, we do this with di. We do this with trans. You know, we looked at 2024 as this great rebuke of the excesses of woke, the excesses of radical progressivism. And yet we see this with Mamdani. We see this in Seattle with their mayor, Brandon Johnson in Chicago. What happened in Minneapolis. Woke is not dead. Woke took a beating in 2024. And it has these little pockets of power, these strongholds, and they're going to regather their constitution and they're going to try and push out and expand again. And you just see this with the Democrats in the Senate about Jeremy Carl, a man once again extremely competent, extremely qualified, who holds mainstream conservative views when it comes to race, populism, national sovereignty, immigration, replacement immigration. These are not controversial at all for half of America. And they walk into that Senate chamber and they go completely hysterical, acting completely shocked about the fact that we think any of these things. This is not a surprise anymore. We know it's happening. You guys have been called on it a ton. And we have immunities. We built up immunities as a conservative movement to most of us, garbage.

[Blake]

Because apparently the senator from Utah is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, that's a whole other thing. Listen, the senator from Utah, Senator Curtis. Throw up his picture, would you? So people know this guy's. He's new.

[Blake]

I believe he's the one who replaced Romney.

[Charlie Kirk]

Replace Romney. This guy has been. I mean, I think he's kind of flown under the radar a little bit. Mostly he's kind of gone along. Get along. He goes along to get along mostly. And listen, if that's gonna be what your choice is in the Senate, fine, we'll live with it. But there has been so many troubling moments with this guy that he is a squish. He is a establishment guy. Just if he. Here's your offer. Don't do this with Jeremy Carl. And we're going to move on and we're going to forget about you. We're not going to forget, but we're going to let this one go. But, man, if you try and draw a line on Jeremy Carl, we will make loud noises. We will continue coming after you. We will not forget Mr. Curtis, because this is obscene. And again we start, we'll end where we started. Charlie believed in Jeremy Carl. Charlie fought to get Jeremy Carl into this administration and we will continue that mission without, without flinching, Mr. Curtis. So don't try us. We're gonna have Sager and Jetty join us next. We'll be right back.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Fact first, America first. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back, everybody. I want to tell you about Strong Cell. It's these little tiny little bottles, two ounces, little shooters, orange. They look orange.

[Blake]

Yeah, they look like a orange juice shooter or something.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, they look like. They kind of taste like orange juice too, but they got CoQ10.

[Blake]

They're a little thicker. It's kind of more sludgy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, but it's delicious. Actually. I'm, you know, if you're going to take a supplement, like have it be delicious. That's my, that's my motto here. And it is delicious. Strong Cell, it was one of Charlie's favorites. I remember when he got really into nadh and it was it like if you are a biohacker, it's a. This is like the hot thing because it literally fuels your cells. It's what your mitochondria need to create energy. So it boosts your energy levels. And before, if you wanted nadh, you had to get an iv, get straight into the blood because it doesn't survive the stomach for whatever reason. But that's what makes strong cell different. StrongCell has developed a proprietary delivery mechanism of this enzyme, NADH, so that it gets straight into your cells, doesn't get broke down by the, by the stomach. So if you have brain fog, if you have chronic fatigue, if you just are feeling lethargic, you need to check out Strong Cell. Give it four to six weeks. Strong Cell will make a massive, massive difference. And it's just one a day of these little vials. It's so easy. It's delicious. And you can now try it completely risk free. They have a 90 day money back guarantee. Completely risk free. Go to Strong sell [e-mail]. use promo code Charlie at checkout to save 20%. That's strongcell.com and don't forget to use the promo code Charlie at checkout to save 20% off. And I know the guys that run that company, amazing company, they're just grown like crazy. Everybody's into it, so good for them. Congratulations. And apparently you guys have been buying it like crazy, so that's fantastic. Go strong sell dot com. Promo code Charlie. All right, Blake, why don't you set us off here?

[Blake]

All righty. Well, so we were going to have. Do we have Sagar?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we have.

[Blake]

All right, so we have Sagar and Jetty, we've had them on a few times to talk about. We talked about property taxes. Definitely inspired a very strong reaction among our viewers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Still have hate mail coming.

[Blake]

Oh, still. People will still send that in, but no regrets. But he's also been a very vocal person. He was one of the ones, I would say, over the last few years, one of the loudest voices against marijuana, which we also discussed with Alex Berenson yesterday. He was really one of the other ones beating the drum. He had a very viral tweet pointing out the sheer number of people who've gotten addicted to marijuana. And then he's really getting vindicated because now with the New York Times coming out and some others admitting actually the rush to legalizing it and subsidizing it.

[Charlie Kirk]

So he gets to take a bow, put in everyone.

[Blake]

Big mistake. Sagar, are you there? Yeah. Take a little victory lap here for a second.

[Sagar]

Thank you very much, gentlemen. Look, it's not a victory lap because a victory lap for me is a tragedy for our country. We have, you know, millions, tens of millions, almost 5% of the US population, a significant part of our adult population, which is using marijuana, high potency marijuana on a daily basis. This is lobotomizing a significant portion of our population. It lowers iq, iq, it lowers testosterone. It's dangerous for pregnant women. I mean, we could go down so many of the lists. The number one pushback that I get, and I will say, gentlemen, you may find this shocking. I have spoken about the most controversial issues of the time, ice, you know, BLM and everything. I have received hate mail many times. Daylight savings, property tax, as you said. Nothing inspires more hatred for me personally than talking about the ills of marijuana. And in particular, the one I hear the most is about so called medical benefits. I need to remind everyone that a massive study just came out not even three months ago, written up by the New York Times, by jama, major medical journals that shows that all of the claims, almost all the claims on medical marijuana are completely fake. And I think that what something's very insidious and dangerous about this drug is the worship of it by many of its users. People who are alcoholics do not try to justify their alcohol use by saying that it's curing them. It's a shameful activity. And I frankly, I think it should be like, you need to drink every single day to function like you have a. You have a real problem. And I think that exactly the same thing of marijuana, except its proponents will say that there's nothing Wrong with that. Our cultural norms around marijuana are encouraging high potency indulgence by huge segments of our population. There is no proper regulation. Unfortunately, you know, a significant part of both bipartisan America are being seduced by what is now Big Weed. I mean, these people make Big Tobacco look like choir boys with the way that they have been lobbying not only this administration, but others to get Americans as hooked on this drug as possible and to keep out responsible voices who are warning about its problems. Just like Alex Berenson did with Tell your children, which I highly recommend if you are a parent, you need to buy that book, you need to read it, and you need to keep your kids away from this substance.

[Blake]

Now, Sagar, so we agree with you, but we get a lot of emails. We got several just yesterday from people hate mail, but also people. We had the ones who said, I got cancer or I have cancer and I take it, and I think it helps with it a great deal. Do you, do you think those stories are authentic or do you think they're confusing maybe other medical effects with marijuana?

[Sagar]

Yeah, I mean, Blake, as we've said, you know, the anecdote data is not data, and the actual medical review of these claims does not hold scrutiny. And by the way, you know, one of the biggest pushbacks I get is like, why don't you talk about alcohol? I don't drink alcohol. I believe Charlie stayed away from it as well. I used. I, you know, we all talked about that previously and, you know, I will happily talk about some of the dangers of that. But again, alcoholics are not trying to justify their alcohol use. You know, one of the things I've also warned about, there was a more recent study. I believe he's out of the state of Ohio or Michigan. I need to go back and to check. But it did show that a significant portion of driver deaths, whenever they checked their blood, had high levels of THC such potent enough for them to cause impairment in driving. People who, you know, go after alcohol like to talk about correctly DWIs and impaired driving, but everybody seems to ignore that we have a significant enough cannabis crisis for people who are driving while high. Nobody, nobody is paying attention to these. So I would just say to that person the same way I talk to people whenever I talk about the dangers of SSRIs. It may have made you feel as if it worked in that case, but in a longitudinal study, we see that it does not hold even close to the same benefit, let's say, of things with not even near the amount of danger, like exercise and, or diet. So these claims, while we can, you know, take individually when we study them in the long term, we see that on the whole they do not hold up as promised and look like not to get lewd. But just yesterday, you know, as a joke I was tweeting about cannabis suppositories, which I did not know was a thing. And yeah, so that's, that's a thing. It's extremely high potent and you know, the criticism I got is like you're making fun of cancer patients. And I went to the website which is selling these cannabis suppositories and what's the very first thing that it says? A discreet ways to use cannabis. Right. Like even the sellers are in on the joke. Like they use medical marijuana as a claim to try and give it some veneer of health when in reality this is about addiction and it's a tragic story. You know, marijuana is not a costless drug. I highly recommend people, you know, read Alex Berenson's book about psychosis. Check out Andrew Huberman's work on the topic as well. It's ruining your sleep if you're a, if you're a young man, in particular, if you want to have a family, its effect on testosterone, on your ability to have children. People are not telling you the truth. And then similarly with a lot of pregnant women, every pregnant woman in America knows you should stay away from alcohol, unfortunately, because of this medical worship culture around marijuana. They are using marijuana in some cases for pain relief or others because they believe the propaganda of costlessness and it is already causing problems for children in the womb, not to mention the explosion of something called cannabis hypermesis syndrome, which, which you can all look up. Scromming is an effect where you're just like significantly vomiting people, you know, children, teenagers and others who are vaping this very high potency drug. Ask any ER doctor in your life, they will know exactly what I am talking about. This is a crisis. It's a full blown crisis.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, I think, yeah, I was going to say that the two things that hit me, what you're talking about, Sager, is the driving while high. This is, I mean high school kids, this is a famous, famous thing for high school kids. They think it's like a joke. So I think you're absolutely right. We should make progress on passing laws that, you know, maybe we already have them, but like actually enforcing them. So that's one thing young men and the schizophrenia thing. You saw the Brett Cooper tweet that went viral. That's Another, because the THC is so much more potent now than it was, you know, back in the 60s and 70s. Here's, here's the last pushback that we got as far as emails yesterday. And by the way, people feel free to email us freedom. Charlie Kirk.com give us your thoughts. I know a lot of you disagree with this. There's a libertarian streak in the conservative movement, especially when it comes to marijuana. They say, hey, listen, these things are all legal. Cigarettes, drinking, you know, marijuana should be considered the same. What is your pushback directly to that libertarian? Like, just don't get, you know, get off my lawn, government. Don't tell me what to do. Leave me alone.

[Sagar]

I hear you. I hear you loud and clear. However, we accept as a society that total freedom would be anarchy. And so we have to have well established norms. Norms. And when your freedom begins to have high levels of societal costs and cause danger and medical crises and significantly ramp up, let's say, you know, violence in some cases. You know, by the way, guys, we haven't even talked about the mass shooter angle. The number of mass shooters who are cannabis addicts is unbelievable, even though it's a relatively small subset. So SSRI certainly should be discussed, but that's another angle through which we should. The point around it is that nobody is saying, at least me. I am not saying that you holding a dime bag should send you to jail. What I am saying is that we need very well established norms and regulation to keep these companies which are selling these products of extremely high potency with no limits on advertising, no, you know, actual analysis of its claims, no go safeguards to try and keep it away from children. And I encourage people to try and to think in that way. This is a normative conversation in the beginning. Like, really what I'm talking about here is culture, perhaps more than anything, the same way that we have, you know, conquered smoking in the United States. States largely. Same with drinking. At some of the higher echelons of society, we've seen drinking come down significantly. We need to do the same thing with weed. Simply, Alcohol is not at all in long term.

[Blake]

We might have to work on that connection. But no worries. I'm just thinking about the tragedy of like, because we had that peak where, oh, actually marijuana is great and in fact, it has, it has health benefits. If anything. I was thinking when we started to legalize it, it wasn't even just, oh, it's legal now. We were getting. Democrats were having these bills to subsidize it. So, like, former convicted drug dealers like black Americans could open their own weed stores. So we could have as many weed stores as possible in low income neighborhoods. Like, and I'm just thinking we're going to look back at this in 10 years, 15, 20. And that'll be the new argument they use to prove why America is racist. They'll say not only did they legalize weed, they subsidized putting weed into black neighborhood. And it's gonna be so hard to explain. No, actually that is what liberals were doing as a do gooder thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, I'm thinking like Tyler Robinson and his. Like Lance Twigs.

[Blake]

Yes. The shooter in Tumblr Ridge the other day was making a bunch of it.

[Charlie Kirk]

You think about the delivery mechanisms of modern weed with vaping versus you go back into your mind like what the hippies were doing. It's like the hippies would get around a, you know, bong and it would.

[Blake]

Be like they had like an actual plant. It took off some mountain, but it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was like, it was like a almost. It was just. It took a lot more effort, right, to get around. You had to, you know, get it all ready. And now it's like, oh, you know, you're just sitting on the couch watching tv, vaping. And it's just the. And by the way, the dosage is so much higher. It's like that. It's so much easier to make it a chronic repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat kind of like usage thing. It becomes much more habitual. We are going to pivot with Sager into Epstein. You're gonna not want to miss that. We'll be right back. But another component of all of this.

[Blake]

Which cannot be lost, is that when marijuana is legalized, you invite corporate actors.

[Sagar]

That are very, very good at making things addictive.

[Charlie Kirk]

The operative question, the most important question, will more people using weed make America.

[Sagar]

A stronger, better, happier, more joyful country 50 years from now or less?

[Podcast Sponsor/Announcer]

So some people say it will make it that way.

[Sagar]

I completely disagree.

[Blake]

I think the data is totally different. That was Charlie on the marijuana threat. We obviously want to highlight that because he was a big fighter. Even when it was super unpopular. He was always a warrior. He didn't care if he took a bunch of hate for it. But we want to pivot into another topic because saga is very good on this one as well. The Epstein files, the infamous ones. But we wanted to have a specific hook. There was an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal the other day by Barton Swaim and he argues the Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financiers Sex trafficking and blackmail operations. They haven't for the excellent reason that there were no such operations. So we've had guests from both sides of the spectrum. Sagar, some arguing, actually one argue the real villain in the story, he says, is Virginia Guthrey herself, that she was a fabulist and she kind of created the big conspiracy theories out of nothing. Epstein might be sleazy, he did like underage girls, but that was the limit of what his wrongdoing was. Now, I know you are have generally been a believer in, we'll call it the big tent Epstein theory, that there is a lot that is still hidden, a lot to be found. So what are you currently thinking with all the files that have been released?

[Sagar]

I understand that argument. However, I often find that they're arguing against a straw man, as if that was the only claim, let's say in the Big ten community and say that if you were to widen your aperture, that the confirmation of the core claim, which was that Epstein was obviously involved in a highly powerful network that involved governments and intelligence agencies, that you really can't ignore all of the evidence that we now have, not only from the files, but from the previous release that would happen before as lot of, as well as a lot of the information that was already in the open source environment. And so one of the things I find very frustrating is that yes, there became this kind of what I would call like a low IQ conspiracy of a client list where they would say blackmail tape and then so he would write exactly next to it what he blackmailed for. I'm sorry, I mean, I think it's a very unsophisticated understanding of how power, influence and yes, in some cases blackmail works. But it also ignores frankly the memo where Epstein memorialized to himself some very salacious claims that were made against Bill Gates. And guys, I can tell you, having had access to tens of thousands of Epstein's hacked emails that I read through, I would venture to say I read through every single one. He was very often in the business of sending himself exactly these types of emails, memos and others to memorialize certain conversations, send them to lawyers and keep tabs on others. Individuals now smoking guns largely do not exist. For people who are in law enforcement will understand what I am saying. You have to be able to connect the dots. And what we see is not only all of the compromising photos that have been released, let's say of Lord Mandelson, of Prince Andrew, many of these others rich and powerful people, but it really belies the, you know, what I would say the ignoring by a lot of the people who don't want to see a bigger network here of Epstein's work with these intelligence agencies. And the reason why the intelligence agency question is central and the most important is that his usefulness to this very powerful network of governments, intelligence agencies all across the world, not just one single intelligence agency, is what enabled him to get away with some of his more salacious activities that everybody else likes to focus on and go through some of the intelligence evidence. If.

[Charlie Kirk]

Se.

[Blake]

Did we lose them again, We.

[Charlie Kirk]

The connection.

[Sagar]

Understand that is the big tent. That's important.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. Okay. Se. You're back. You. You're.

[Blake]

You're.

[Charlie Kirk]

We had some connection, but apologies, but.

[Sagar]

Yeah, on my end.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, listen, I think. I think the intelligence. I tend to be. I lean more on your side here because. Because his whole rise to power, his whole how rich he got, the Les Wexner connections, this revelation that Lex has now been listed in the files as a co conspirator. The question about when are we going to see indictments? We're told actually yesterday by Chip Roy, that he asked Pam Bondi specifically if some of these other investigations are ongoing and can we expect some indictments? Apparently, yes, is the answer that they're working on, on the co conspirators. But I tend to think that he was connected to intel. And I agree. There's this, I think, a low IQ take on what that means. It's like, here's your $10 million now, you know, send these arm shipments over here, and then we're gonna, like, bury it over here. People think of it in very black and white terms. He was very good at insinuating, at reminding people of what he knew, that he was keeping tabs on everything. And it's a soft power. And you're right, it enabled him to get away with this really gross lifestyle over the years. That was a, you know, people kind of turn the other. Other cheek to. So I tend to think. I tend to agree that. I think he was connected internationally. I think he had a power play. But I do tend to think that the sex thing, which is what a lot of people hang their hat on, is probably less salacious than people want. Want to believe, because Virginia Guthrie was the one that recruited a lot of these young women, underage women, and they would. They were taught to tell, you know, Jeffrey EPSTEIN, oh, I'm 18 and everything's fine, and put on makeup and dress a certain way.

[Sagar]

There's no question that Virginia Giuffre had her own problems. Okay. And I don't want to, you know, totally besmirch the dead either. We shouldn't forget that she committed suicide and she really was driven toward. She had a torturous life.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Sagar]

And we also saw a lot of images that showed that she did certainly have, you know, a lot of connections inside of Epstein's universe.

[David Zier]

But.

[Sagar]

But I want to come back to what you said. And then let's also do what investigators do. They rule out other possibilities. One of the reasons why rich people said they associated with Epstein was tax advice. Well, now we have access to millions of his emails. There's no tax advice in there. Zero. Leon Black, the head of the Apollo group, who's worth $9 billion, said he paid him $150 million for tax advice. Can't find a single email of any tax advice. The only advice that I found is he found like a Business Insider article and sent it to one of his accounts accountants. Sorry, that doesn't pass muster. Second with Les Wexner. He was the greatest financial mind I've ever seen. As I said, I've read his unredacted emails, which I gained access to. There is no sophisticated financial engineering going on. You can also read Jason Leopold over at Bloomberg News. He read through it. The only real thing that we can come away with how he made his money is, is either blackmail and other types of criminality. For example, what is UK politics exploding over right now? Insider trading. Over being given a heads up by Lord Mandelson about an upcoming bailout. Similarly, trading information, let's say, with Prince Andrew, who at the time was the UK Trade advisor. That is the actual glimpse into how he made his money. But remember, the intelligence connection is important because it goes to the beginning. This is a person with a fake Austrian passport at the height of the Cold War, long before he is a multi millionaire or even a billionaire. Vienna, by the way, was what, what? The capital of spies and the nexus of east and West. This is a person in a relationship with the Khashoggi family, with the Lease family, who are at the heart and center of Iran Contra. This is a person who is involved in 100 million dollar Ponzi schemes, in some cases stealing some of the money from there, and an expert in money laundering, moving money across the globe, which is what enabled these arms deals with Israel, with the Cote d', Ivoire, with Russia, with everything that is his expertise.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, can we keep you for a couple more minutes here on the other side's break? All right, we got to wrap up hour one. For real America's Voice. We'll be right back. More with Sager. Stay right there.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump and the first lady are headed to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, right now where they'll meet with military families and the members of a special Forces unit that carried out Operation Absolute Resolve in Venezuela. That, of course, is the operation that landed deposed Venezuelan president and accused narco terrorist Nicolas Maduro in handcuffs and in a US Jail. Real America's Voice correspondent and host of Breaking Point, David Zier already at Fort Bragg right now. He joins us live with the very latest. David, good afternoon to you.

[Anthony]

Hi.

[David Zier]

Good afternoon, Terrence. Yes, we got some confirmation that it's wheels up for Donald Trump in the air with FLOTUS. Melania Trump scheduled to come here and speak at 1:30pm Eastern time to the airborne troops here on the ground at Fort Bragg. But we hear that he, he's going to speak with the Delta operators who will not be seen in public, of course. Delta force formed in 1977, almost 50 years old. They helped capture Saddam Hussein. They took out al Baghdadi in 2019. They killed ISIS leader Abu Sayyaf. They've been very active and very successful here. And also, you know, you have to keep in mind that if things go south with the Iran talks, that troops from here, 82nd Airborne, 18th Airborne, Pope Air Base, which is neighboring here, which is kind of meshed with the 82nd Airborne, can deliver troops anywhere in the world within 18 hours, could be deployed for special operations as we have our second carrier group, the USS Gerald Ford steaming over there. So we'll see where that goes here. But this place has a rich history, Terrence. The 18th Airborne out of here, US Army Special Operations, Delta JSOC, the Joint Special Operations Command here, SOCOM, which was, you know, came out of the desert one and Operation Eagle Claw, which was aborted to rescue our hostages in Iran when we had that plane and helicopter crash at the far the few, the forward refueling post accident there. And SOCOM was born out of that, where they can dip into any service, any time and coordinate coordinated strikes around the globe. And just to add, you know, the strike here in Venezuela was probably the most sophisticated one in our history, according to Pete Hegseth. And with 160 aircraft, 35 helicopters, Delta operators on the ground, they came in, finished the mission high tech, taken out their radar defenses with their complicated Russian SAM, you know, 400 defense systems. They never knew we were coming. We were in and out of there. And intelligence on the ground helped us develop that since 2020. So Trump is here to congratulate the troops for doing that again, maybe meeting with Delta operators here. And it's an exciting day on the ground for Fort Bragg. This place is amazing. We got the best soldiers in the country here.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

Absolutely. You mentioned Pete Hegseth. Will he be on hand as well?

[David Zier]

I heard that Secretary of War Pete Hegseth will be coming to Fort Bragg. I don't know if he'll be in this speech and ceremony here. We'll keep you posted if we get that information. But we do know that Trump is either landing soon or has landed and will be on his way up here probably in the next half an hour. The troops are excited. We got about 500 airborne troops here. Salt of the earth people. We're at the paratrooper training facility over here. We got the flight line behind us where they jump out of the C17s and load up on the C130s to jump. And the training facility, the side of the building with a mock door and a mock setup for the newbies. Just salt of the earth people here.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

Absolutely. 30 seconds. Fort Bragg is really home to the best of the best. You mentioned Delta Force. There are Rangers who are stationed there. There's the 81st Air Force, 82nd Airborne. You know, this is really home to the best of the best.

[David Zier]

There's no doubt about it. When you mesh that in with former Pope Air Force Force Base, which is now Pope Field, they can strike anywhere, anytime, deep in the heart of enemy territory. And they never know we're coming.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly a political commentator)]

Absolutely. David Zier reporting for us live on the ground in Fort Bragg where President Trump set to arrive at any moment. Now, we'll have live coverage of that for you throughout the day. In the meantime, let's get you back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Anthony]

Foreign.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, Hour two. It's Friday, which means it's our Ask Us Anything hour. We take your questions. If you want to participate, go to members charliekirk.com Become a subscriber. You help us keep the lights on. We give all kinds of great benefits to our members. So please check that out. Members.charliekirk.com and I just want to say welcome, Mikey McCoy. I'm just glad to be here.

[Mikey McCoy]

I'm happy to be here.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm just happy to be here, too. I've been traveling this week and I was under the weather. Just happy to. Just happy to be here.

[Mikey McCoy]

It's the best feeling when you finally get home.

[Charlie Kirk]

When you get home. I was so exhausted last night, you could probably still hear it in my voice. Anyways, I wanted to get two quick notes before we get to questions here. One is that Karen Taylor Robeson has dropped out of the gubernatorial primary on the Republican side here in Arizona. Yes. Okay.

[Mikey McCoy]

I was like, can I clap at that?

[Charlie Kirk]

She actually, she put out a very nice note basically saying that she made this very difficult decision because we didn't want to have infighting on the conservative side and then we need to unite and win. And that was. It was very gracious. I think she's going to score a lot of points with the conservative base in Arizona and certainly with us at Turning Point. So that's exciting because we didn't know that was coming. But Andy Biggs is now has a clear primary path and that's exciting because he's going to be the next governor of the state of Arizona. Something Charlie was very focused on and we are going to remain very focused on as well. Got to take care, Katie. Oh, you know what? This is fun. So we have this great image I have to show you. It is in. Let me find it. It's. What number is it, guys? They put out basically Katie Hobbs put out a note here. It is basically an email after this happened saying that she is now up against Katie's billionaire opponent. Just dropped out. Making Donald Trump in Turning Point Actions, handpicked candidate Andy Biggs, the front runner in the Republican primary. That is great. I mean, thank you for the advertisement. Katie Hobbs. Thank you for the press release. And I guess this is just multiple, multiple emails talking about Turning Point action and how she's up against us. Okay, how about you're up against the voters, the conservative voters that want you out. But anyway, so that's fun. And then the second thing is we got inflation numbers back today. They came in better than expected. It was predicted to be at 2.7%. Inflation came in at 2.4. 2.4. So very, very good stuff there. We have our first question. It sounds like Kelsey Kelsey. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Unmute yourself if you can.

[Blake]

Kelsey. Unmute yourself.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there you go.

[Sagar]

There we go.

[Blake]

All right. What's your question?

[Government Official or Law Enforcement Representative]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can you still hear me?

[Blake]

Yes, we can.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, great. Thank you for taking my call. So many of us know that famous. I think it's pronounced Hopf, quote. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Charlie talked a lot about God's designs of distinctions, especially male Female. And in our overly feminized culture, nut caters and craters to women's demands for comfort and sensitivity. I've been wondering if there's like a parallel Hop inspired quote but for women and would love your thoughts and ideas on that.

[Mikey McCoy]

All right, make one up.

[Blake]

I'd have to make one. So Hop is. Unfortunately, he's not a philosopher. He's actually. He's a science fiction author. I was, I was actually very surprised to. To find that out that like, it sounds like a very old quote or like, that would be classic. It's from a 2016 novel that G. Michael Hopp wrote. So I actually now have his quotes page open on Goodreads to see if there's anything else. Like there's other. It's very funny. Some of the other quotes they have, one of them is just Faraday boxes, which is probably not a quote that she's looking for, but big picture. Let's try to think on that. Like in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you know, what made me think of was we just had her on Helen Andrews.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Where she's talking about over feminized culture and basically how we hit a tipping point at some point between 2015 and let's say, 2022 in different industries that became majority female. And then. And then the train goes off the. Off the road.

[Blake]

I'm trying to think, is there. Is there a kind of cyclical quote you could come up with for. For women? I almost want to throw that at you, Kelsey, if you have any thoughts that come to mind.

[Charlie Kirk]

Big families create strong women.

[Blake]

Strong women find big families annoying. So their daughters have small, small families.

[Charlie Kirk]

Small families create feminists. Feminists destroy the country. I don't know. Something like that. Chat TBT oh, dear.

[Mikey McCoy]

Hard times create resilient women. Resilient women build strong families. It's basically what you guys said. Yeah, this is great.

[Blake]

But then strong families indulge weak women. I don't know. Because you have to have the cycle to it. It has to circle back.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's an interesting question.

[Blake]

I mean, what I would think of whatever you were going to come up with. You think of what are core themes with women. Like women are. Are more nurturing. Also what Charlie would talk about. The women are very much a norm enforcer group. They're often the people who uphold the rules of society. And so that's one reason we've seen feminism drive a lot of things haywire. Women, young women are fed a bad life script. It makes them unhappy. It also encourages them to enforce really bad rules on people. It's the, it's the school mom or the church lady. That's the idiom they'll use even for a woman who hasn't been to church in her entire life or since she was a kid. The ones who are showing up to scream at you, to nag you, to say like, oh, you have to care. You have to have the BLM square. You have to support trans kids, or the people who are showing up to block ice cars. Those are people who, in a different context, if they were raised with a better script, they might be saying, oh, you can't. You can't cheat on your spouse like you're. You're living with your mistress. You're not allowed to do that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Stop drinking too much.

[Blake]

Stop drinking so much. That could be really annoying too. But it was for a pro social, a good thing. Whereas now they're activated on an evil thing. And so I think if you were gonna get. Get the equivalent quote, whatever it is, you'd have to capture that element of things.

[Charlie Kirk]

And Charlie. Yeah, Charlie also Brock broke. Broke down the difference between the macro and the micro. Right. Women really tend to major on, on the micro, which would. Would be sort of interpersonal relationships. And men tend to think about, you know, business deals and negotiations. It's not that they don't work both ways or that, you know, men. And men oftentimes will fixate on relationships too. But it just. In the general, in the, in the larger context, that tends to be more true than not. And we'd also talk about how we need to have a proper balance of the masculine and feminine. So a healthy society has a proper balance of masculine and feminine. And men are given a role which they can thrive in, women are given a role in which they can thrive in. And when you get on an unhealthy balance, and this is what Helen Andrews was talking about, we have a clip from her.

[Blake]

If we want it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Blake]

Let's play.571.

[Charlie Kirk]

But if you want to put it.

In a single sentence, you could say that feminization equals wokeness. Everything you think of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization.

[Sagar]

Think about all the things that wokeness means.

[Charlie Kirk]

Valuing empathy over rationality, safety over risk, conformity and cohesion over competition and hierarchy.

All of these things are privileging the.

Feminine over the masculine. So if you have ever wondered why wokeness appeared out of nowhere when it did, that is my hypothesis that all of the institutions that began admitting women in the 1970s eventually got enough women that they were able to reorient them.

[Blake]

And it's, as you said, it's balance that matters. So those things like empathy over rationality or safety over risk, that's not actually just a bad thing necessarily. But you think of where would be an environment where you would want to, for example, prize cohesion over competition. Where would you want inclusion over free speech? I can think of an obvious spot in a family. In a family, you sometimes have to say, you just need to be quiet because you're upsetting all of your siblings. In a family, we need safety. We're not recklessly doing dangerous things in a family. Sometimes we're not fully rational. We have to care about. About loving each other above everything that works in a family. And you need to cultivate that. But it's out of balance. Yeah, it's out of balance. If your big institutions of society are that because all of society is not the family.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, think about the military. You would basically flip all of those. You would want rationality over empathy. You would want risk over safety. Well, maybe most of the time. But you, you have to take risks in wartime. You'd want competition. You would value the best getting to the top, the most lethal, the most courageous, the most competent in business.

[Blake]

You're not going to innovate if your priority is just inclusion over free speech.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely. We're going to take a quick break. Sorry, what was that?

[Blake]

I'm not sure. We could talk to her.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll be right back. We'll be right back.

[David Zier]

Foreign.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Oh boy. Let's give it a shot. Kelsey, unmute yourself.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, so my shot is like, I was thinking of, you know, Charlie loves scripture. He was amazing at it, you know, knowing it. And so like when I think of, okay, great woman, a not so great woman. You've got your Proverbs 31 woman. You know, the noble woman who's. Who cares for her family, she's business oriented, all those good things. And then I think of the second Timothy 3 woman who's like very influenced by the evil of the day. And it says like, the evil people gain control over weak willed women who are loaded down with sins and swayed by evil desires. Always learning, but never able to acknowled the truth. Dang. So maybe like peaceful times create weak willed women. Weak willed women create hard times. Hard times create noble women. Noble time create peaceful times.

31 women.

[Mikey McCoy]

That was great.

[Charlie Kirk]

I like, Andrew's gonna tweet that I.

[Blake]

Man, I always learning but never willing.

[Charlie Kirk]

To acknowledge the truth.

[Blake]

I'm just thinking of the, you know, the ones who get a little too many grad degrees.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, listen, I have like 14 examples in my mind as soon as she started talking about that. Yeah, well, listen, that was well, well done. And so thank you for that and thank you for calling in. And I think we have Anthony next. Anthony, welcome back to the show.

[Anthony]

What's up, guys?

[Charlie Kirk]

How are you?

[Blake]

Becoming quite the regular.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I noticed that myself, actually, Blake, as I'm swamped at work today, any.

[Blake]

Of subscribers could be a regular. By the way, like, we have a lot of you, but. And we have a lot of you. We know we have a bunch of you in the call, but a lot of them don't necessarily raise your hand to like, raise your hand. Ask the questions. You can ask us.

[Charlie Kirk]

Be more like Anthony.

[Blake]

You can ask. You could ask me what my favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle is if you wanted to.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know. What is it though?

[Anthony]

Yeah, we're gonna pass on that one, Blake. So here's my. So here's my question, guys. We see two styles of the gop. We have the old regime and it even goes down into the local communities. And we have the new style. So I went to my county's GOP meeting, this committee meeting, to pick who's running for office for local elections in Congress. And State and stuff. It's all the same old cronies. I'm sorry to use that term, but it's they in. What I saw is I asked someone who I know there very well if any of these people will win. And the answer I was told was no because they don't want to change the way they do stuff. And they just keep recycling the same style of campaign and whatnot. Like the communications person for our thing, they sat on the stage and took photos from behind when people were giving their speeches saying, hey, thank you for picking me to be your nominee. How do we fix this? Because it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Are you talking about like local positions within your like county GOP or something like that? Yeah, but we.

[Anthony]

So my county is also a district for Congress.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Anthony]

So we. So we had to nominate our person that's going to go against a Democrat candidate. So it's district 25. So even that we had to do that one plus because New York state's changed the elections to now, everything's on the federal years for every election. It doesn't matter what it is. So like how do you get the old party to start letting the new party come in the work things to make it better, to try to win?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. You know, this is a huge problem. I've talked about this with Tyler Boyer a lot. So if you go to like a local county gop, you will come in and there's people that have been there for years, like dead notes. And these guys have never missed a meeting. They're usually, you know, kind of your gray haireds and this is kind of what they live for. And what we've noticed is that when younger people come into these meetings and they feel, I mean there are very. It's like high school. It's like you got mean girls, you got cliques, you got like everybody hates your one faction versus the other faction.

[Blake]

I want to agree. A great example is the Nebraska legislature when we were trying to get them to win or take off and it was just such. Charlie was. Was venting about this that you get people who, when you're almost, when you're in a system that has existed, it's like a little closed off from everyone like who's going into Nebraska politics usually. So it shortens your time, it shortens your horizon. Basically you stop looking at the national picture, you stop looking at big trends and you start fixating on, oh, I've known the same people for a long time. I have my grievances with this person, I'm friends with this person. Often for reasons that aren't what would normally drive political alliances. Very personal. And you get really homed in on that. And that can happen at your county GOP level. Oh, I'm with this person because I feuded with this person over who was running for county commissioner.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, but it's even like, who is. Who is a treasurer or like, you know, how we're gonna. How we're gonna do, like, tabling or signups for. I mean, the most petty stuff I've seen at the local GOP level. It's really sad. And then young people come in.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And they feel completely alienated. Yeah. They don't want anything to do with it because it feels like a completely, like, different world and it feels unrelated to current events.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah. That's the biggest thing, too, that I've seen is young people. It's like you brought up the Nebraska thing. Charlie's this young guy. He comes in trying to push the winner take all narrative in Nebraska and change what has been Nebraska's. You know, norm.

[Charlie Kirk]

We've never done it this way before.

[Mikey McCoy]

And there was literally one guy. I won't forget this. Blake, do you remember this? There's one guy, and he was like. Like 70 something. And he was like. He had been part of the legislature there for, you know, 30 years. I'm not changing. I'm not changing. You're just a young buck. What do you know that I don't. You don't know Nebraska well.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's their own fiefdoms of power, so they don't realize how insignificant and how irrelevant sort of their little fiefdom is. But yet they're willing to sort of, you know, create a bunch of enemies and dig their heels in on the most irrelevant stuff.

[Mikey McCoy]

I also think there's a third faction of the GOP that's being born. You have like, the. The old guard and then this new guard, which, you know, like the Rhinos and now maga. And I think there's a third which is, like, it's very interesting. It's like the new right people that just don't care anymore, and they think everything's rigged and everything's fake and they don't want to vote. Like, they don't want to get vote. They don't want to get engaged in politics. And I think that's going to be a huge yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

The nihilism.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I see. I see. To my local area, actually. There's somebody I know. He has two sons, are both voting age, one refuses to vote.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Any election yeah, well, it's a huge problem.

[Anthony]

How do we fix it?

[Charlie Kirk]

You have to, you have to. Well, listen, culture, that's a, that's a, that's a big thing. First, first of all, you need to make sure people have a belief that things can get better and that your voice matters and that your vote matters. And that's a huge, huge deal. One of the reasons why we need to pass the SAVE act, for example. We'll continue this Anthony, on the other side. Hang right there. We'll be right back. More of the Charlie Kirk Show. Show. Don't go anywhere.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Anthony]

Guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. How do you fix it again? I've talked with Tyler Boyer about this a lot. One of the best sort of outgrowths of Turning Point Action. It wasn't necessarily something that we planned, but we have Turning Point Action, for example, in all 10 technical swing states. Which includes, like, Iowa. Right. Which is. Hasn't really been a true swing state for a while. But what we found is that when we go into these places, we get a lot of young people, we get a lot of fresh blood because we have a different brand. It's a different kind of. We attract different types of people, and then what happens is we end up, you know, inevitably working or partnering with local GOPs, and we then therefore inject all this new blood. Now, in a state like New York, which I believe you're in, Anthony, obviously hasn't been a focus, so we don't have as big of a presence there, but just creating an outside group, kind of having this third party outside group that's very friendly, very affiliated, but has a whole different energy, a whole different DNA, a different culture that has been a huge injection of new life in a lot of these places. And sometimes there's conflicts. Like in Wisconsin, we go got Brett Galashevsky, who was running TP Action up in Wisconsin. He's our enterprise director on Turning Point Action side, but he's like, Mr. Wisconsin. He has become a lot of those. Our Turning Point people have then been elected to local GOP roles, and they've injected huge new energy there, but some of the old dogs don't like it. And so I would constantly get calls from local reporters in Wisconsin being like, the local GLP is very upset at you. And they're very, very. They. They don't like what Turning Point Action is doing. And. And they think we're trying to take things over. No, it's more organic than that. It's just we have young people, a lot of energy. People like the new blood. They want to, like, vote them into office at the local GOP level. So we've seen that. We've seen that a lot. And I think that's kind of the way forward is you got to get kind of outside groups to inject new energy. So that. That's. That's my theory. Of the case there.

[Anthony]

All right, that could maybe work out this way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. So maybe you could work with our turning point action people. If there's some contested elections, that would be something that we could maybe get behind with our app and our ballot chasing. It'd have to be on a volunteer basis because New York is not one of our targets for actual spend. But we can still get the local GOP up and running on the app, ballot chasing data, all those things.

[Anthony]

Okay, yeah, that's no problem. I'll definitely look into that and everything. I appreciate it, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Awesome. Thank you, Anthony. Alright, next up we have Christine. Christine, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Please unmute yourself and welcome. Hi.

Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on a great halftime show. It really.

Thank you. It was all Mikey. I don't know about that.

[Blake]

He at least was given in for me. I was basically like in the dark the whole time.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we kept it pretty. Yeah, we kept it pretty under wraps anyways.

It was great.

Thank you. Thank you. We're gonna do it again next year so, you know, spread the word.

We, we absolutely will. Can't wait. My. My question is it's kind of a lofty idea, but I figured I'd just throw it out there. I was just curious if any high school or college chapters have ever considered hosting family events. I have three young kids and you know, I'm always looking for ways to get them around good role models and they love being around big kids too. And selfishly, I'd love to be around parents who are maybe a life stage ahead of me, you know, to learn from them. And was just curious if that has ever that, you know, have been been considered before.

Yeah, so. So Tyler Boyer chimed in on the chat and he said Turning Point Families is what tpusa Faith should be doing at the chapter level. He goes, I told them that a long time ago. So. So it's actually a good idea because we have, you know, Obviously within the C3, which is turned TPUSA, we have the high schools, which is Club America. We have the college vertical. So these are sort of different teams. Then we have tpusa Faith and Turning Point Academy as well. And that's all under the C3. A few other things, productions, social media, things like that. But those are kind of the different areas of focus. And I do think that they could do a fam. Like family mixers and like barbecue. I mean a lot of this stuff is very chapter based and like what I mean by that is it's very college based. So These chapters get together and they do. How do we get together with and bring. Recruit more kids? How do we. We'll do a, you know, like different events to incorporate more of the campus life, and we'll push back against censorship. So it's kind of very local based and very local to their own university. But I love this idea of getting the families together and we share. We should push that out and make it a thing. And turning point Faith tpusa. Faith could get behind that. So it's a great idea. Christine. We don't have it yet, but there's always room for improvement. So thank you for the idea.

I appreciate it, guys, and keep up the great work.

Thank you so much, and thanks for your kind words about the halftime show. Oh, we got one for Mikey here. This is Mick. Mick, you're up next. Unmute yourself. Welcome to the show. All right, I do have a question.

[Blake]

For Mikey, and then I have a question for y', all, but I'll start with Mikey. So I'm a 21 year old living in Oregon, and I never went to college, never had plans to go to college. And that sounds like that's similar path that you took. I want to know if you have any advice for, you know, guys like me coming out of high school that, you know, want to stay involved and.

[Sagar]

Want to be engaged.

[Blake]

Then after he answers, I want to hear all of your favorite ninja turtles.

[Anthony]

Mine is Donatello.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

So I always joke that Charlie kind of saved me and indoctrinated me a little bit, because I legitimately indoctrinated.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, he did. He saved me.

[Blake]

But I was. He was about to take out $300,000.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, yeah. And I was supposed to go to college. I had my college plans and everything. And then he was like, no, don't go to college. Come work for me. And so it started as a gap year. It's been, you know, six gap years, so. But here's my best advice. This is what I always say to high schoolers in your community. The people you know, the big businesses, you know, the most successful people you know, identify those people. And when you are graduating and you don't want to go to college, go at. Beg for a meeting. Annoy the crap out of them until they give you a meeting.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did I give you this advice?

[Mikey McCoy]

No, dude, I've been saying this for years.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, that's great.

[Mikey McCoy]

And then if call, keep calling the secretary until they give you a meeting with the CEO of the company. Say, I only need five minutes. I only need five minutes. Go There, sit down with them and say, look, I'm graduating high school. I'm not going to college. I want to come work for you. I will do whatever it takes. I'll be the first to arrive, the last to leave. There's no amount of hours I'm not willing to spend to figure something out. If I don't understand it, it. I'll be the hardest working employee you have. And at the end of my gap year, at the end of this year, you can either say that you got this entire year of work out of me and you don't even have to pay me. It could be free year of work. Or you can say, this person's so good, I want to hire them full time. And 10 times out of 10, they will hire you full time, and he will immediately hire you. Entrepreneurs, CEOs, business owners, if they see a young hustling kid like that walk into their office and say something just like that, they will hire.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, totally. So I gave my. I didn't realize you've been given this advice. I gave my nephew the same advice. So my brother started having kids way younger and he's older than me. So like his, his eldest son is in college now. And he, he, I asked him, you know, what do you want to do? And he was like, well, I'm really into like property management and like business, commercial real estate. And I want to like kind of get into that space. So I said, okay, come back to me with the top three firms in town. Like, go do your research. Come back to me. I said, okay. So he comes back to me. These are the top three firms, okay, who are the top two executives at each firm? Get me, get me them. Okay, now get me their, their contact information, like assistance, emails, phone numbers. And so he called around and got all of them. And I said, okay, you harass these three people until somebody takes a meeting with you. And he got, he got, he got it. He got a paid internship within two weeks doing exactly that. And I told him, I said, you need to be willing to work for free for at least six months, maybe 12. And don't complain. Just say, yes, sir, no, ma'. Am, all of those things. All you do is you are willing and able and excited, enthusiastic, eager. You have to be so positive because here's your especially young generations. They are whiners, complainers. I'm not. Listen, I'm very pro young people, very pro Gen Z Jones, Gen Alpha. But listen, the rap on you is that you're complainers. You're not hard Workers, all this stuff prove that's not true with you. And if you do that, if you are a standout, exceptional, then they. I'm telling you, to Mikey's point, an entrepreneur will look at you and see themselves in you and want to make you the best thing. Okay. And pour into you Ninja Turtle, quick. Oh, shoot.

[Blake]

Yeah, Michelangelo.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, this is the normie answer. Leonardo.

[Mikey McCoy]

I didn't watch it. I grew up on, like, Avatar.

[Blake]

That doesn't matter. Have a favorite Ninja Turtle.

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[Blake]

I didn't watch.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you like blue, purple, red or Michelangelo? Oh, my. Yeah. Blake's take.

[Blake]

I just.

[Charlie Kirk]

Leonardo, clearly. Oh, Rich Barris. Leonardo, Michelangelo. Thanks, Rich. You can't have two.

[Blake]

Yeah, you can't. No. This is.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Sagar]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mikey McCoy]

He took it every day.

[Charlie Kirk]

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All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Final segment of the final hour of the week here@the bitcoin.com studios. Your one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin and crypto. What's up, Blake?

[Blake]

I wanted to get a email very quickly. That was very good.

[Charlie Kirk]

We do have.

[Blake]

We have Brandon, but I also wanted to hit this quick because we talked about marijuana a lot at the top of the show. I thought this was a great email. We got got. I'm going to leave her name out of it, but she says, hi, CKS team. I don't normally do this, but was inspired to write. Thank you for talking on the show about the dangers of marijuana. I lived the weed psychosis nightmare myself. And I watched as my boyfriend, who was a heavy user, began to succumb to delusions and erratic behavior. I had to get him emergency mental health treatment where he was diagnosed with marijuana induced bipolar disorder. I had to learn how to navigate his paranoia and his rage because he refused to stop using. I myself had begun to use weed during this time and I saw its negative impacts on my motivation, on my emotional regulation, and on my thought processes. It was a terrifying time in my life. With praise and thanks to God, I am now free of both the weed and the relationship. More people need to be talking about these risks.

[Charlie Kirk]

Risks.

[Blake]

Thank you very much for that email. And we want everyone listening. If you're out there, if you're doing weed, listen to that. That could be your future. Leave it behind. Reject the poison. No poison.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I love this. First Corinthians 6, 2. Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. And I think about that all the time. Because, you know, I had a pastor who said two. Really? He said a lot of great things. By the way, he went to Princeton, used to do Bible studies with Franklin Graham. This guy who married me and my wife, Don Williams. Amazing, amazing guy. He used to say he had so many things. The meaning of life is relationships. That was one of his one good ones. He said faith is spelled R I S K, which is another good one. But he used to say everybody's an ass addict. Everybody's addicted to something. But you do not be mastered by anything. And let Christ empower you. Overcome your addictions, overcome your flesh. Live by the. Live by the spirit, not by the flesh. We've got really important.

[Blake]

One more question, Brandon. Unmute yourself. Hey guys, can you hear me?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Blake]

So my question is if there's anything in the anti Federalist papers or like Constitutional Convention or anything that the anti Federalists said that you think if we implemented back then that it would have been, you know, it would have worked out for us? Well, I think we actually did implement. We did implement one. So the anti Federalists, for those who are not aware, they're the ones who argued against the Constitution. So the Federalists were the ones who said ratify the Constitution after the convention. The anti Federalists generally campaigned against it. But as I'm sure, sure you likely know, Brandon, the main thing that they pointed out as a problem was that there was no Bill of Rights in the Constitution as originally drafted. And George Mason, for example, campaigned against it because it did not have that. And for that sometimes he's called the father of the Bill of Rights. And that is what we got. And I think we've very much learned they were correct. Sometimes you'll hear people say, oh, the Bill of Rights might have been a mistake because it gave people the idea, oh, the government can do anything that's not explicitly forbidden in the Bill of Rights. And I think instead we've learned over and over that having those explicit protections, they tried to get around what is explicitly banned in the Bill of Rights, but they have at least a very hard time doing it. That's repeatedly been our shield against so much over having explicit freedom of speech, explicit right to bear arms. Arms. We would 110% have banned guns in this country if we did not have the Second Amendment there awkwardly getting in the way of them doing it.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the First Amendment too.

[Blake]

First Amendment.

[Charlie Kirk]

And there's the. I completely agree with what Blake is saying. And actually it's funny, I was recently reading back through a biography of George Washington and I kept sympathizing with the anti federal more and more. It's like, well by the way, you gotta remember we think of our founders almost as monolithic. They were not. They had deeply passionate, vehement, sometimes like come to blows, fisticuffs kind of arguments about the size and scope of the federal government. And you know, Jefferson notoriously was of a different mind than George Washington. George Washington and Hamilton believed in a lot more more centralized power with the federal government. And Jefferson was much more states rights guy. So I totally encourage you to study the founding fathers, the founding generation. There's good stuff to be gleaned from both. But to Blake's point, we got a lot of good stuff.

[Blake]

I'm trying to think of something that wasn't implemented because they wanted the Bill of Rights. I do recall if I remember. What's that?

[Charlie Kirk]

He's got one more question.

[Blake]

So the one that I, I think that, I mean I see why they didn't put it in. But they were debating a veto on state laws. They wanted the power to invalidate or negative improper state laws. And I see why. Or state nullification of federal laws. State laws so that national Congress would nullify improper state laws. So like for example, we obviously have a lot of gun laws that are unconstitutional and the national government could just come in and say hey, you know that's unconstitutional. No, doesn't work.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we do have a process by which we can do that through the courts. Right. So if the state institutes a law that is anti constitutional, then that can get litigated up through the courts and then ultimately the Supreme Court could take it up and then basically say that's an unconstitutional law. So there is a process. And by the way, we do have supremacy clause. Right. The federal government is supreme. So and you, by the way, you've seen that specifically with gun laws in countless states, especially blue states that have tried to institute unconstitutional, you know, gun laws and they've been overturned much to their chagrin, and yet there is a tension there. Right. Like in California, you still can do do concealed carry in California, but they make it extraordinarily difficult. But it's been saved by this.

[Blake]

I'm trying to think of something the anti federalists wanted that wasn't actually included in the Bill of Rights. And a warning I'm recalling they did have is they were concerned that the judiciary would be too powerful, that they were saying the Supreme Court could just basically make whatever laws we want. And what's funny is we didn't see that for a long time. For a long time there was a lot of restraint. And now really over the last century or so, we've actually seen that manifestation of, of the courts being extremely powerful. Part of this is just, I think part of it is the Supreme Court that they have those life terms and that's now turned into, you're on the court 40, 45, 50 years, and it's not so much that that's bad, that's worked to our advantage. But I think it's made all of American politics start to revolve around the Supreme Court dynamics and what you can engineer through the courts. And I sometimes wonder if people would be less all consumed with it if it was something like the Supreme Court was an 18 year term and every President by default would get two nominations to the court. So you don't have a majority of the court until you've won three presidential elections in a row. And then it doesn't last for half a century due to the quirks of who managed to get nominees in. It's something I think about, but it has frankly worked out to our benefit well.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I will tell you that wherever they can exploit a loophole or a power vacuum, connivers and corrupt will find a way to wiggle in there and, and manipulate it for their own good. All right, Mikey, thank you for joining us, sir. Thank you for having me, Blake. It's been a good show. Thank you, everybody.

[Blake]

Good questions. Always be ready to join. We love having you.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see you next week.

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