The Charlie Kirk Show, February 17, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show (Real America’s Voice) – February 17, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, broadcasting from Phoenix, AZ, brings together political analysis, cultural commentary, and current events through a distinctly right-leaning, Christian conservative lens. The hosts and guests cover topics ranging from the state of American political leadership as showcased at international conferences, discussions about recent trans-identified mass shootings, reflections on the legacy of Rush Limbaugh and Charlie Kirk, a noted revival of faith among Gen Z men, the passing of Jesse Jackson, university culture wars, updates on Utah’s gerrymandering politics, and ongoing controversy regarding the Epstein files.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. U.S. Political Leadership on the Global Stage (01:55–05:35)

• Participants: Charlie Kirk, Mike Davis, Rob Axon
• Main Takeaways:
  • Strong criticism of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom’s performances at the Munich security conference, called “embarrassing” and “incompetent.”
  • Contrasted with praise for Marco Rubio’s foreign policy speech, which is hailed as representing “the only adult political party.”
  • Obama’s comments on division and unity are labeled as “self-unaware” and “conformity demanding demagoguery.”
• Notable Quote:
  • “We’ve only got one adult political party in the United States right now, and it’s the Republican Party.” – Charlie Kirk (02:50)
  • “[Obama is] a conformity demanding demagogue ... when he gets involved in politics to this day, this is the way that he argues, not just in rhetoric but in policy as well.” – Charlie Kirk (04:05)

2. Reflections on European Civilizational Crisis (05:07–06:34)

• Concerns expressed about the “civilizational suicide” of Europe due to uncontrolled immigration and limits on free speech.
• Urges European countries to respect their own sovereignty and people.
• “If you have a country like Germany where you have another few million immigrants come in ... then ... Germany will have killed itself.” – Charlie Kirk (06:17)

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3. Tribute: Rush Limbaugh and Charlie Kirk’s Legacy (09:13–14:13)

• Hosts: Charlie Kirk (in memorialized content), Blake
• Notes:
  • Remembrance of Rush Limbaugh on the fifth anniversary of his passing.
  • Emotional recollections of Rush mentoring a young Charlie Kirk and their private friendship.
  • Both Limbaugh’s and Kirk’s impact as titanic voices in conservative politics is emphasized.
• Notable Quote:
  • “Here’s to you, Rush Limbaugh. You are still the GOAT. The greatest to ever do it. Five years on, we miss Rush in this movement. And now with Charlie gone, we miss Charlie so much…” – Charlie Kirk (13:32)

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4. Rhode Island Trans Shooting & Mental Health Crisis (14:13–18:29; resumed 34:33–44:38)

• Host/Guests: Charlie Kirk, Blake, Riley Gaines
• Discussion:
  • Outlines details of a tragic shooting at a youth hockey tournament by a trans-identified individual, framed as part of a broader “wave of transgenderism related shootings.”
  • The hosts and Riley Gaines sharply criticize “affirmation models” for gender identity, raising alarms about mental health issues and dangers of what they call “trans violence.”
  • Riley Gaines asserts, “You don’t have to be a doctor to understand ... gender ideology as a whole, the harm that it’s causing, the destruction,” (35:20), advocating for questioning of hormone therapies, SSRIs, and the model of affirmation.
  • Kirk ties recent violence to SSRIs/hormone prescriptions and societal affirmation of what he frames as “disease.”
• Memorable Moment:
  • Both hosts and Riley Gaines struggle emotionally when playing archival Charlie Kirk audio foreseeing violence from “trans ideology.”

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5. Gen Z, Faith Revival, & “Christian Nationalism” (20:00–28:37; 42:22–44:13; 46:11–53:38)

• Theme: Reports/stats from RealClearInvestigations on young men returning to conservative Christianity, revival in high-octane Orthodox/Catholic/Charismatic churches.
• Charlie Kirk (23:10): “For the first time in decades ... Christianity has stopped its nosedive as more people begin to see the efficacy and the rewards of religious faith and practice.”
• Gen Z men (especially the highly educated) are said to be leading a “return to religion” (23:58–25:43); cultural stability and personal flourishing are linked to faith.
• CNN’s coverage of the Charlie Kirk Memorial as “ground zero for Christian nationalism” is mocked and hotly refuted.
• “By the way, our society detached from the Christian faith is like a flower in a vase ... if it’s disconnected from the roots, it will die, it will wither.” – Charlie Kirk (27:25)
• “The rise of Christian nationalism is why we didn’t burn down cities when Charlie was killed. What are they complaining about?” – Charlie Kirk (53:16)

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6. Jesse Jackson’s Passing & His Complicated Legacy (70:20–77:14)

• Hosts: Charlie Kirk, Blake
• Summary:
  • Notes his death at 84, with reflections on his journey from civil rights activism to presidential runs.
  • Critiques his switch from pro-life to pro-choice stances as opportunistic and “shameful.”
  • Recognizes his significance as a Black religious leader, but laments that he “didn’t step up to the task.”
• Notable Quote:
  • “He really could have been a transformational figure if he’d held the line on the life issue … I think we should all feel sad that he didn’t step up to that task.” – Blake (76:43)

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7. Utah’s Gerrymandering Fight & Prop 4 Drive (59:27–68:27)

• Guest: Rob Axon, Utah GOP Chair
• Topic: Recent success in gathering over 200,000 signatures for a ballot initiative to repeal Proposition 4, which created an “independent redistricting commission.”
• Discussion focuses on representative government, outside interference, and a call-to-action for supporters not to be intimidated by the left’s campaign to remove signatures.

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8. The Epstein Files, Lawfare & Resource Allocation (80:01–92:42)

• Guest: Mike Davis, Article 3 Project
• Discussion Points:
  • Strong criticism of Congressmen pushing the Epstein Transparency Act for allegedly smearing innocent people for political gain.
  • Emphasis on lack of prosecutable evidence due to victim nonparticipation and legal constraints.
  • Argues that DOJ resources are being drained from “real lawfare” and fraud initiatives by being forced to conduct massive Epstein document reviews.
• Notable Quote:
  • “If you want to bring accountability for the lawfare against President Trump ... let’s not demand that every good person in the Justice Department has to sit through months and months and months of document review on this Epstein BS...” – Mike Davis (88:17)

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9. University Culture Wars: Harvard, Berkeley & Wikipedia (94:25–100:51)

• Storylines:
  • Harvard and Berkeley are called out for using classes to push immigration activism and left-wing edits to Wikipedia.
  • Hosts call for investigations, endowment taxes, and broader oversight of elite higher education institutions.
• Quote:
  • “Harvard University has a $50 billion endowment. Why is it as a country ... we continue to finance universities that hate us?” – Charlie Kirk (96:19)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “She [AOC] had no idea how to answer, you know, very important questions concerning the world.” – Charlie Kirk (02:37)
• “The bottom line is this. The international conferences have been a disaster for Dems...” – Charlie Kirk (03:45)
• “You don’t have to be a doctor to understand … the destruction that [gender ideology] is causing.” – Riley Gaines (35:20)
• “For the first time in decades … Christianity has stopped its nosedive.” – Charlie Kirk (23:10)
• “[Rush Limbaugh] was the GOAT. Five years on, we miss Rush Limbaugh in this movement. And now with Charlie gone, we miss Charlie so much…” – Charlie Kirk (13:32)
• “You cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population.” – Charlie Kirk (50:29)
• “He represents one of the most shameful elements of the Democratic Party … sold out on some of the most important issues.” – Charlie Kirk on Jesse Jackson (71:14)
• “There is not a list. Epstein’s Rolodex is already public, and the file is largely unreleasable for many reasons, including grand jury materials, court records under seal, child pornography, protection of victims.” – Mike Davis (82:25)
• “If you want to bring accountability for the lawfare against President Trump … let’s not demand that every good person in the Justice Department has to sit through months and months and months of document review on this Epstein BS.” – Mike Davis (88:17)

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Memorable Moments

• Tearful tributes to both Rush Limbaugh and Charlie Kirk, noting their unique and irreplaceable contributions (13:32).
• Riley Gaines and the hosts voicing both sorrow and anger at the ongoing violence and policy debates related to transgender issues (35:20–44:13).
• Lively ridicule of CNN’s “Christian nationalism” narrative and defense of faith-inspired civil action (46:11–53:38).
• Reflections on Jesse Jackson’s complex legacy, including both civil rights triumphs and ideological shifts (70:20–77:14).
• Detailed, procedural breakdown of Utah’s fight against gerrymandering via citizen ballot initiative (59:27–68:27).
• Mike Davis’ forceful denunciation of Congress’s focus on Epstein files at the expense of legal action on election fraud and lawfare (80:01–92:42).

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Episode Structure & Flow

• First Hour: Political analysis (Munich conference & Obama), culture (Europe’s civilizational challenges), remembrances (Rush Limbaugh, Charlie Kirk).
• Middle: Breaking news/journalistic updates (Rhode Island shooting, Jesse Jackson), faith revival, and CNN/National media critique.
• Later Segments: Utah politics deep dive, Epstein files & DOJ resource debate, higher education/campus activism, closing with calls to action and sponsor acknowledgment.

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For Listeners New and Old

This episode delivers the familiar combative, faith-centric, and political energy that defined both the real and memorialized Charlie Kirk. With a mix of serious analysis, cultural complaints, emotional tributes, and pragmatic calls to action, it’s a pivotal episode for those tracking developing right-of-center narratives leading into 2026.

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• If you want to get involved in Utah’s redistricting fight: Visit ufrg.org.
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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mike Davis]

By the way, I watched AOC answering questions in Munich.

[Charlie Kirk]

This was not a good look for the United States.

[Mike Davis]

I watched Gavin Newscom answering questions for.

[Charlie Kirk]

In Munich and this was a bad look for our country. This was a bad these two people are incompetent and at least Hillary's confident. She's just Trump deranged.

[Mike Davis]

She was so deranged.

[Charlie Kirk]

She is an angry woman. But I watched the other two speaking and answering basic questions. Look, Gavin has destroyed California and aoc. I never really got her. I never heard her speak very much.

[Mike Davis]

And they started answering questions. She had no idea what was happening.

[Charlie Kirk]

She had no idea how to answer, you know, very important questions concerning the world.

[Mike Davis]

But you can't answer questions concerning New York City either, because New York City has a problem.

[Charlie Kirk]

We've only got one adult political party in the United States right now, and it's the Republican Party.

[Rob Axon]

Marco Rubio gave the speech of a lifetime over there.

[Charlie Kirk]

He laid out a clear foreign policy vision that defends Western values and Western civilization. And the brightest Democrat over there, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, crap the bed, okay? She wants to be president, she wants.

[Rob Axon]

To run, and she's one of the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Most popular Democrats and gave one of the most embarrassing performances you could possibly do. Gretchen Whitmer, one of the governors that Bakari is touting, said she knows even less about foreign policy than aoc.

[Rob Axon]

And Gavin Newsom has repeatedly embarrassed himself.

[Charlie Kirk]

Every time he's gone to one of these international conferences, whether it was Davos.

[Rob Axon]

A few weeks ago, Munich, he can't.

[Charlie Kirk]

Even rebuild a single house in the Palisades in Los Angeles and California, people are running out of there like crazy right now. The bottom line is this.

[Rob Axon]

The international conferences have been a disaster.

[Charlie Kirk]

For Dems and they have showed Republicans, in the name of Marco Rubio this time around to be adults who have.

[Rob Axon]

A clear eyed view of what the.

[Charlie Kirk]

United States has to do in the future. I feel like the collective response from the right, conservatives, Republicans to this comment from Obama was spare us how completely preposterous just its face, Charlie. The way that he framed the whole discussion was classic divisive self unaware Barack Obama. He's like, oh, us versus them. That's not us, that's them. We would never do such a bad thing, only they would.

[Rob Axon]

Right?

[Charlie Kirk]

He's doing it literally in the interview while having no concept that he's doing it yet again. And this was part of his brand, right? With nice rhetorical flourishes. But this was a conformity demanding demagogue for eight years as president, when he gets involved in politics to this day, this is the way that he argues, not just in rhetoric but in policy as well. And to say, oh, the only anti unity nasty people are on the right. He must have been in some sort of intellectual coma for the last 50 years if he actually believes that. Yeah, you know, part of me says.

[Mike Davis]

You know, well gee, where were you back during.

[Terrence Bates]

When, when you know, American cities were.

[Charlie Kirk]

Being burned to the ground? And I'm not, you know, yes, the Europeans annoy me sometimes and yes, I disagree with them on certain issues. But we have to remember that is the cradle of Western civilization. The entire idea of Christian civilization that led to the founding of the United States of America that was formed in Europe. The cultural bonds, the religious bonds, these things are going to last beyond political disagreements. But I think Europe, and frankly I would have said this about America a.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Risk, I think of creating, of engaging in civilizational suicide. They are unable to or unwilling too many countries to control their borders. You see them starting to push back against that, and good, that's a good thing. You see them starting to limit the free speech of their own citizens, even as those citizens are protesting against things like the border invasion that got Donald Trump and a number of European leaders elected. So look, I want Europe to thrive. I want them to be an important ally. Part of that is going to be Europe respecting its own people, respecting its own sovereignty, and America can't do that job for them. If you have a country like Germany where you have another few million immigrants come in from countries that are totally culturally incompatible with Germany, then it doesn't matter what I think about Europe, Germany will have killed itself. And I hope they don't do that, because I love Germany and I want Germany to thrive.

[Riley Gaines]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's February 17, 2026. We are here at the Bitcoin.com studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Blake, how are you doing well? How are we doing well?

[Blake]

I mean, there's a lot of sad things in the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's a lot of sad things in the world. I'm still not over Robert Duvall yesterday. I actually went back and watched a bunch of his stuff like clips on YouTube last night. And obviously there is the newest trans shooting that came out of Rhode Island. This time we're going to unpack that. We also have Riley Gaines joining the show halfway through the hour. Then we're going to turn our attention to Prop 4 in Utah. Got updates there. We made it across the finish line, at least we hope in the gerrymandering Prop 4 story. Then we got Mike Davis in the second half of hour two. But first I want to pay homage to the great Rush Limbaugh. It is the five year anniversary of Rush's passing. It is five months since we last Charlie and Charlie loved Rush. Charlie often on this show would remember Rush and would pay tribute to Rush. And Rush and Charlie were dear friends. Actually, Charlie said on this show after Rush's passing that Rush Limbaugh became a seven figure donor to the organization. He did it privately and quietly. That was the stipulation. And upon Rush, Rush's passing, Catherine, Rush's widow, gave Charlie permission to reveal that, make that public, as Charlie wanted to honor Rush Limbaugh in a very special way. And so I wanted to play just quickly here at the outset a clip from Rush Limbaugh describing the first time that he Met Charlie Kirk. 375.

[Mike Davis]

I don't want to jinx him, but I'm just going to tell you they brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet me about a month ago. He was in town to set up.

[Charlie Kirk]

This Turning Point thing and I spoke.

[Mike Davis]

With him for about a half hour.

[Terrence Bates]

This is the kind of guy.

[Mike Davis]

That.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, you can see really becoming.

[Mike Davis]

Big in politics as he gets older.

[Charlie Kirk]

It just has the kind.

[Mike Davis]

The carriage, the personality, the charisma.

[Charlie Kirk]

I.

[Mike Davis]

You may think this sounds weird, but I remember when Bill Clinton became president.

[Charlie Kirk]

People were saying that they just knew Bill Clinton was going to be president someday in college.

[Mike Davis]

He just had that kind of ambition, and he impressed people in a way that he could. Telling you that people are saying the same things about. About Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Kirk.

[Blake]

Did Charlie ever actually golf?

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie hated golf.

[Blake]

I thought so.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie hated golf.

[Blake]

That was one of our great similarities.

[Charlie Kirk]

He thought it was a waste of time. He thought men should be spending more time with their families.

[Blake]

That is such a Charlie thing. He'd be like, this takes four. Like, what, four hours to do.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, you could go. You could do it in two, maybe if it wasn't that crowd of a course. But still, it is a time consuming.

[Blake]

You really would get why Charlie liked college football. And it was because you could watch it while doing other things. Like running Amfest.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. As I was saying, have it on in the.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And every so often he'd stop, look at the screen, a play would happen, then he'd move on. That was Charlie's idea.

[Blake]

Remember, remember during the World cup and he was watching on his phone in the middle of segments on the show, and he would get distracted while doing the segment?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Well, Rush was. I'll never forget when we started the show and Charlie said that, you know, he aspired to be more like Rush Limbaugh, and that that was sort of a Northern Star for Charlie. And then obviously that picture that you see on screen was Rush Limbaugh. One of our events, we honored Rush with an award down in Palm Beach. And then Rush got to introduce President Trump at one of our student action summits as well. And Charlie went and picked him up. Picked Rush up. They drove in the car back together and had a really long talk. And I just remember being very jealous. I didn't get invited to go along with Charlie to go pick up Rush. But Charlie told me all about it and said how amazing it was.

[Blake]

As you say, he modeled himself on it. And that was one of Charlie's great strengths is he had, you know, we had so many mentors, he had so many models, and he had no shame, just his. The way of. His way of attacking so many issues was, okay, well, what does the best person at this do? And I'll just copy them. And so that's why you would see funny aspects of this. Like you'd always call him Barack Hussein Obama because Limbaugh called him Barack Hussein Obama when he was in high school.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

I think Lady Graham is also. He would have the same nicknames as Rush because Rush was one of the best at it. Why wouldn't he copy him?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And well, so here's to you, Rush Limbaugh. You are still the goat. The greatest to ever do it. Five years on, we miss Rush Limbaugh in this movement. And now with Charlie gone, we miss Charlie so much from this movement and there will never be another like either of them. And so we pay. We pay tribute to the passing of Rush and the passion of Charlie at the same time. Two great friends, two great patriots, titans of their generations, and we miss them dearly.

[Blake]

He didn't get to be president, but he got to be a prophet and a martyr, which are greater things.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And he helped elect a president. And so there we are. Story one in the, in the, in the can, as it were. We want to turn our attention to what happened in Rhode Island. This is a terrible story at a youth hockey tournament where a trans shooter turns out to be the father, Robert Dorgan. He was born a male, also went by Roberta Esposito.

[Blake]

That's the new euphemism that they've been using in articles. He was a person who used two different names.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a new euphemism. And I think, you know, we. Well, listen, let's just play the clip. 321. That's where the suspect. Can you confirm whether the suffix a male, female confirmed that is a transgender person. Is that something that he has in terms of information?

[Blake]

So what I can say right now.

[Riley Gaines]

That we have identified the person, the suspect by a birth name. The birth name was Robert Dorgan. We have also learned that the person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Does go by the name of Roberta. Robert, Roberta. What's the difference?

[Blake]

It was even weirder because it's Dorgan, but then apparently went by Roberta Esposito. So possibly, I mean, obviously a clearly unwell person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and the daughter confirms it. Yeah. So 322.

[Riley Gaines]

My father was a shooter.

[John Summers]

What happened?

[Charlie Kirk]

Shot my family and he's dead now. What was the reasoning?

[Terrence Bates]

Was there a family argument?

[Charlie Kirk]

He has mental health issues. So, yes, she goes on to describe those mental health issues a little bit more. She says that he had been struggling with mental health for quite some time. She said, quote, he was very sick.

[Blake]

So this is a little different. We wanted to talk about this of Course, it's horrifying, but we've really been, we've just. Last week we were saying there have been a wave of transgenderism related shootings. And we said there was likely to be more. His is a little different from some of the other ones we've seen because it wasn't a young person who, you know, was diverted into this when they were unwell in high school. It was, it seems like it was more of a midlife crisis type thing, like, which is another type, but that's a threat as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

And no, I mean, so we have images of this guy, I mean, obviously unwell. You know, Roberta, this is posting pictures of nails. If you can put that up. Guys, the nails, like, you know, cosplaying as a woman, wearing tank tops like a woman, blue hair. I mean, this is, this is, you know, you can, you can feel this. Like Andy no posted this image of this gentleman, I guess, you know, burying his backside. Something was off here.

[Blake]

Well, I mean, the most dreadful thing was just the day before someone said, Tim McBride, a trans person in Congress, is a man. And he said, keep bashing us, but do not wonder why we go berserk.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Riley Gaines]

It's an Olympics you'll never forget.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Rob Axon]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

No one has ever like excitedly posted like I am. I'm excited to announce that I have been baptized into, you know, the Evangelical.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lutheran Church of America. Exactly.

[Blake]

Sorry, my dad's exe lca. I got a dunk on them.

[Charlie Kirk]

So this is what's, this is what's fascinating. So they document a new report from Chapman center and demographics and policy. Da da da da. For the first time in decades, Pew Research notes that in the US at least, Christianity has stopped, stopped its nosedive as more people begin to see the efficacy and the rewards of religious faith and practice. So where are they going? They are returning to Orthodox faith. Christian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox. Those churches are booming like almost 100% increase in new converts. Catholic churches, conservative Catholic churches are booming. Conservative Protestant churches are booming. Charismatic churches are booming. Those are all like high octane. Give it to me straight.

[Blake]

The most interesting part to me is that highly educated subset, because we should be frank. Charlie saw evidence of revival, we've seen evidence of revival. But like the big picture, it's not necessarily showing up in Poland. It's that the decline has stopped. And yet if you talk to people, if you're in dc, if you're in, for example, like organized conservative circles, everyone can see that there is some. There's like this revival that young people are joining in, they're showing up. A lot more people see it on the ground. And what I think you're seeing is you're seeing a big preference shift among the biggest kind of the cultural influencers, things that go downstream. So if this was 20 years ago, you'd be saying, oh, all the highly educated are bailing on religion. And then that percolates downstream. It's kind of like, it's actually kind of like the trans epidemic that started with a few elites and then now we're seeing it spread everywhere else.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we can see it in 392. Here's the graph. Weekly religious attendance by education. Graduate degrees are actually the most likely to attend every week. Bachelor's degree, just slightly below associate's degree. The lowest are high school graduates, which is fascinating. Yeah, it's. It's almost like. And you see this with a lot of scientists too. A lot of scientists have found faith. A lot of, you know, the guy who cracked the human genome, devout Christian. So this, it doesn't surprise me in the one sense because the Gospels and the Scriptures are as deep and as wide and as complex as you can go. You can take it at a 101 level, which is deeply profound, certainly. But the deeper you go into scriptures, the more tie ins, the more parallels, the more the richness just expands and explodes, the deeper you're willing to go with it.

[Blake]

And I think there's so much, there's such rising awareness of just. I remember 20 years ago, so much smugness because people had grown up in such a culturally Christian environment that it could all be thrown away. It was like irrelevant. It was old fashioned. You know, we can use reason to do all these things. And the past 20 years have seen that total vindication of how important faith is as the scaffolding for life to make keep everything from going to hell, basically.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I think there was a. I think people took it for granted that the Culture was sort of stable and roughly approximately Christian. And therefore, if you didn't participate in a weekly service, for example, you would still go out into the world and it would still feel approximately Christian because all of society is blessed by the Christian faith. All of Western society is blessed by Christian faith.

[Blake]

People have seen families, like families, disintegration. They're seeing. Actually, it is. You kind of need that, like I said, that faith scaffolding to really flourish to the maximum of your abilities in many cases. And I think for a lot of people, that's the kernel of. Well, if it's so much better to have faith, I think that especially among the highly educated, helps lead that process too. Well, then might it be true, actually. And then I think that takes a lot of people into actual conversion. I think that's a story I've seen play out many times, 100%.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we are gonna hit the CNN doc hard. There's a new piece that CNN just released this morning attacking the Charlie Kirk Memorial as sort of ground zero of Christian nationalism rising up as if, by the way, as if that was a bad thing.

[Blake]

If that gets to be a ground zero for any revival, then God bless that memorial and we'll wear that with honor.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, 100%. And by the way, our society detached from the Christian faith is like a flower in a vase. It might look beautiful for a short time, but if it's disconnected from the roots, it will die, it will wither. And the same is true for the American culture, Western civilization writ large, that if we do not re. Establish a connection with the root, the tree will wither, the fruit will be bad. So we need our faith. So this is one of the most important positive signs that you could see in the news today, that young people, especially young men, because I believe young women will follow young men going back to church, wanting to get married, wanting to have families, wanting to build a life of purpose is one of the truly most positive signs that you could see in any news clipping across the landscape of the media. The fact that it won't get more press coverage is a darn shame. But we are going to cover it here because it's truly important. It's something Charlie poured his life into and I'm so glad to see real clear investigations highlight this truly important development. More. We want more. We'll be right back.

[Riley Gaines]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice News Break. I'm Terrence Bates, civil rights icon and two time presidential candidate. Reverend Jesse Jackson is dead. He passed away early this morning at 84 years old, surrounded by family. In a statement about his death, Jackson's family writes, and this is a quote, our father was a servant leader not only to our family, but to the oppressed, the voiceless and the overlooked around the world. His unwavering belief in justice, equality and love uplifted millions and we ask you to honor his memory by continuing the fight for the values he lived by. President Trump also chiming in on Reverend Jackson's passing on truth. Social writing in part the Reverend Jesse Jackson is dead at 84. I knew him well long before becoming President. He was a good man with lots of personality, grit and street smarts. He was very gregarious, someone who truly loved people. He loved his family greatly and to them I send my deepest sympathies and condolences. Jesse will be missed. Reverend Jesse Jackson, dead at 84 years old President Trump headed to Rome, Georgia on Thursday as early voting for that district's open congressional seat is in full swing. The Commander in Chief is endorsing Prosecutor Clay Fuller to replace Marjorie Taylor greene in Georgia's 14th congressional district special election. During the trip, 47 will likely affirm its support for Fuller as the candidate faces an uphill battle to win the race outright. Nearly 20 candidates are vying to fill the seat. With so many people in the race, it may be difficult for one candidate to earn the majority needed to win the race. If that happens, the top two vote getters, regardless of party affiliation, will advance to a runoff. While the district is deep red, enough Democrats and independents are on the ballot. Excuse me. To potentially stop spoil the race for Republicans, this special election has all candidates, regardless of party, on the ballot. The district covers 10 counties in northwest Georgia, from the Atlanta suburbs over to Alabama and up to the Tennessee state line. Election day is March 10. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Continuing to try to make America healthy again by starting to look into the safety of the ultra processed foods. The secretary claims the current industry standards just aren't enough. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

Stop watching the news and start making some the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, it's that time again today. It's Strong Cell time and I hope the team is running in the Strong Cells right now. Ah, yeah. We need them. We need them.

[Blake]

Yeah. Come on.

[Charlie Kirk]

These are important. Oh, nice toss.

[Blake]

I wouldn't have caught, I wouldn't have caught this one handed before I took Strong Cell yesterday. This is made my hands stronger.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Riley Gaines]

How are ya?

[Charlie Kirk]

We're doing well. We're, we're covering this story though, and I thought of you because you are one of the leading voices when it comes to, I would say, the mental illness of the trans insanity that has taken over women's sports, that has taken over so many aspects of our public dialogue and discourse. And now we're seeing this repeated, troubling, you know, one after the other incidents of shootings involving trans shooters. And it's kind of like, when are we going to actually raise the alarm, call it what it is, that this is an epidemic of trans violence. I wanted to get your opinion on this, of how we even got here. You know, I said, I joked with you, Riley. I said, you're not a doctor, but you know, you know, but you've been studying this issue. Your response was beautiful. So maybe let's start there.

[Riley Gaines]

Yeah, well, when we were talking on the phone today, you did, you said, you're not a doctor. And I said, well, Andrew, you don't have to be a doctor to understand, number one, the basis of the issue, right? Gender ideology as a whole, the harm that it's causing, the destruction that it's causing. And now what we've seen, the death literal, I mean, how innocent lives are being prematurely taken from this planet. Charlie Kirk being one of those, we saw in Nashville, my backyard, were three little nine year olds, I think three adults as well in that scenario. We saw obviously what happened in Canada, what happened in Minneapolis and just in Rhode island this week. This is a very destructive mental illness disease, as you said, epidemic, social epidemic and contagion that is infecting, plaguing society. You don't have to be a doctor to speak to this. And you ask why? Right. Which is the million dollar question. But I think pretty plainly, pretty simply, and at least how I understand, I think there's a couple routes you could go here. But I think what would resonate with most people is the problem, this is the problem with the affirmation model that we have been seeing being used. Whether it's the medicalization side of things, whether it's the respecting pronouns, that this is the problem. Because think about what we are affirming by being accepting and affirming of this. We are really only deepening the eventual damage that is lurking underneath the surface. And I say underneath the surface because when we're talking about this demographic, oftentimes these are people with underlying conditions such as depression, anxiety, other personality or mood disorders. And those aren't the things that are being treated by these doctors or surgeons or healthcare professionals or therapists. No, they're being affirmed to believe that they were correct to feel as if they're born wrong. And that's a horrible message that anyone, of course, children, but even adults, for that matter, that's the message that they're receiving, is that they're correct to feel as if they're born wrong. So it's a really horrible, horrible thing. Prayers to the family of the victims. And I think it just leads with the question of, you know, how many more times do we have to see this? What has to be done? What is the answer? I can tell you what the answer is not. The answer is not gun control. Because guess what? In Canada and in Rhode island, where both of these atrocities in the past week took place, there are already strict gun laws, okay? So gun control, that would not have worked because criminals, they don't trouble themselves with the laws by enforcing gun laws. Really, what you're doing is keeping the guns out of hands of good people who could prevent these tragedies.

[Charlie Kirk]

So horrible rule, Riley. Yeah. And you said, the family of the victims, that's his family. So he killed his son. His senior son was a senior in high school, and the mother of his son. And I said, wow, at one point when you were talking, because you basically verbatim took a line of Charlie's from 2023 after another one of these incidents had happened. I'm gonna go ahead and play that clip. 378 trans people have been made into.

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[Charlie Kirk]

To take for us to say we've.

[Public Ad/Announcer]

Probably gone too far here and we should just ask a couple questions? How many mass shootings have to happen where we probably say, wait a second, you know, can we just calm down?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, you asked the same question. Right. How many of these incidents is it gonna take before we say the most mentally unstable, unwell, upset, bitter, whatever. Whatever the diagnosis is. How many incidents is it gonna take before we stop pouring SSRIs down these people? How many hormone replacement therapies, this cocktail of drugs that we are giving the most unstable people in our society?

[Public Ad/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Riley Gaines]

First, let me just say it's so hard to listen to a video of Charlie Kirk. Honestly, I Don't know. I know some people have found comfort in watching clips of his, but I really haven't. It's been really, like, difficult to listen, and especially this clip, and listening to him speak to what would ultimately and prematurely take his life, what just a really horrible thing. But, yeah, and Talking about the SSRIs, I think that's another reason why we haven't seen, especially those who call themselves health care professionals, really question administering synthetic and unnatural chemicals and substances to those who identify as trans, because it opens it. It opens the door for broader questions to those SSRIs, SNRIs, you know, antidepressant medication that are overly diagnosed and overly prescribed. Now, that is not me saying that antidepressants aren't useful and beneficial for some people, but they are being prescribed at an alarming rate, especially to people among my generation. And when you look at things and going back to talking about administering these, these chemicals and hormones to minors or adults for that matter, when you look at the effects of something like testosterone, what that has increased impulsivity, increased aggression, short temper, it really only magnifies the issues that are there, as opposed to creating new ones or diminishing them. It magnifies those underlying things. So again, when you're talking about, which is a commonality, someone with underlying mood disorders such as ocd, such as bipolar disorder or obsessed or adhd, whatever it is, depression, anxiety, that's what's being magnified here. And again, I think a large part of why we're seeing so many horrible tragedies committed.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And you asked a question earlier. You said, what is the solution? Well, we know the solution isn't to affirm a disease and say, yes, you can have more and more of your own disease, your. Your own situation. Now, adults are going to choose what they're going to choose. We do have freedom in this country. They're going to choose what they're going to choose. But one of the storylines that we saw this morning that I think is tied into this, when we talk about solutions, is the rise in faith. And it's not what this is not. The kids are not flocking back to watered down Christianity. They're flocking back to the old, the good, the true. Those faiths that have stood the test of time for millennia, and the Protestant churches may be newer, but that are preaching a strong gospel, a masculine gospel, a, you know, just straightforward, unapologetic gospel of Jesus Christ. That I believe, is what you're starting to see in culture, is this pushback to this destabilization this social, societal anarchy that we're seeing, and maybe speak to that. Riley, because you're a Christian, you're seeing this with young people that you speak to. What is the mechanism? Why are people flocking back to the faith, especially young people?

[Riley Gaines]

Well, I think when analyzing religion, and I'll just speak pretty personally here, I feel a total sense of serenity and calmness and security and confidence in the stance that I've taken despite the constant attacks or death threats that are hurled my way. And honestly, Charlie was this way, too. And I think that was very evident in how he conducted himself, how he's still willing to go out there knowing that threats existed. It's because he knew that what he was fighting for was the hope and the promise of eternal life. That is the only place you will ever find satisfaction. And I think oftentimes, especially when dissecting gender ideology, these people are desperately looking for their identity. They're looking for a place to find that identity. Well, I know as a Christian, that the only place that you will find pure and total satisfaction is in placing your identity in Christ. And I think a lot of young people are becoming to understand that they're realizing this, and in that, you're seeing a shift in. Shift back to developing that relationship with Christ, seeking salvation. And a large part of that is, is the legacy that Charlie Kirk left. And honestly, like, I hate talking about it like this because it seems as if, you know, in speaking of the good things that happened following Charlie's death, selfishly, like, I'd rather him still be here. But it was one of the. The consequences that we saw, this revival, especially of young people going to church that Sunday after Charlie Kirk's assassination. I mean, there was no empty seat. People felt a conviction, a calling to go back to open their Bible, to maybe buy a Bible for the first time in their life. That's a really special thing. And it's. Again, it's the kind of life that Charlie Kirk lived. So we're seeing a lot of inspiration in that, I think, especially in my generation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well said. And I'm with you. To be honest, it's hard for me to watch Charlie clips, you know, the team and the audience. I know that it means a lot to people out there to see them, but for me, it doesn't get easier. So I'm with you. Riley Gaines, thank you so much for coming. You are uniquely positioned to talk about this issue. So God bless you. Keep safe, and we'll talk to you again soon. Thanks for everything. You're doing out there too, with our students. You're doing a great job.

[Riley Gaines]

Yeah, of course. Thank you too.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Oh boy, they're, they're, they're beating that Bobby horse again.

[Charlie Kirk]

There have, yeah, there have been multiple storylines that feel like I'm, I'm like in 2021 again, like over and over and over.

[Blake]

2023, I think was the peak where they're really, they were really emphasizing that Christian nationalism was going to be the, the, the threat du jour of 2024.

[Charlie Kirk]

But like for real, what is wrong with Christians loving their country, being involved in politics? Isn't that how America was founded?

[Blake]

Yeah, I mean it's that classic thing where and antifa will post, you know, these World War II, like Antifa in World War II when they would have they all considered their great grandfathers like the worst fascists? Of course, every view they hold. Yeah, so same thing. You're a Christian nationalist. If you believe anything that 90% of Americans believed from 1776 to 1970, consider this.

[Charlie Kirk]

So CNN does a piece, Pamela Brown, who I know, talking about the radicalization of people at Charlie's memorial because Charlie was assassinated by a radical by as we talked about with Riley, somebody that was animated at least in part by his Love affair with somebody that was trans. And instead of burning down the country like the real radicals did, we held vigils and memorials and people bought bibles and they got baptized. How is that a bad thing? What are we even talking about here? So let me play the clip. 384 and if you don't get as ticked off as I do watching this, I don't know, this is just really infuriating stuff. 384 memorial service was one of the.

[Mike Davis]

Most potent examples of this shift in our culture that we're experiencing right now where a large segment of American Christians are being activated by these ideas, radicalized by these ideas that say that they are the persecuted ones and that they need to stand up for Christians rights.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you know, Charlie did get assassinated. You do realize that whoever this guy is, what's his name, he deserves to be made a little bit famous for being an idiot.

[Blake]

I refuse to know the names of CNN personnel.

[Charlie Kirk]

So we have a nation that was founded by Christians inspired by quite fanatical Christians if anything. Yes. By the way, the only true form of Christianity is radical Christianity. There is Bible verses talking about if you're a lukewarm Christian you will be spit out.

[Blake]

And it's. It's one of those books Charlie liked, Tom Holland's Dominion that we, because we swim in the ocean of Christianity. Even if you're not religious. Actually we don't recognize how fundamentally radical Christianity was from its very beginnings that it totally remade the moral order of the Roman Empire, of the other Europeans that converted to it, of the Middle Easterners who converted to it. That everyone who ran into Christianity in the first century, the second century, the third century for the first time they're thinking what in the world is this? It has to be a radical faith. It is not a faith that is just going with your completely innate passive impulses that prevailed everywhere around the world before it came along.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and this is the point. I mean you look at what we talked about with the rise of Gen Z men going to church, they're going to, to the ancient churches that have not bent the knee to the zeitgeist of the cultural culture of the day. They're going with things that are proudly and unapologetically preaching the full gospel, the full weight of it. You know, they don't want a weak watered down preaching style. They don't want that. That's exactly what the world offers. They don't want pseudo social sciences with a pew. That's what the world offers. They want radical Christianity. That's boldly standing up for the principles of Jesus Christ and his death on the cross. Risen from the dead on the third day, appearing before the the apostles and then 500 and then 5,000. That's what they want. They want the full thing. And they want people inspired by that faith to march into the public square and to build a world that looks more like the kingdom of God. That is the Christian faith. It.

[Blake]

Let's go to the clip. Charlie. 395.

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[Charlie Kirk]

By the way, it looks like we have. I wonder if it's loaded. 394. Loaded. Yep, loaded. Our little thing that we are discussing has made its way to Fox News.

[Riley Gaines]

394 young men report feeling culturally dislocated or villainized by progressive secular discourse regarding masculinity. Traditional forms of Christianity, particularly Catholicism and orthodoxy, offer a narrative of responsibility, sacrifice and hierarchy that appeals to men seeking a defined role in a fluid world. Now, the report also breaks down weekly religious attendance by education level and those with postgraduate degrees are at 30%. People with bachelor's degrees, 28%. Emily, to add to this a little bit, okay, It's a worldwide phenomenon. 45% increase in the number of people baptized in France. In the UK they have seen 18 to 24 year olds jump from 4% believers and attending church in 2018 to 6, 16%. But I love this. Most of this growth is concentrated among Catholics and Pentecostals. A shout out to my evangelical crowd there.

[Blake]

4% is what it bottomed out in the UK that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, but what's crazy is that they, you know, they're talking about how young men specifically feel alienated by a progressive discourse. If you show that yahoo again, just give me this picture of this guy with his glasses saying they're being radicalized. Stand up for the Christian faith. Well, what do you think's gonna happen when you target pro lifers that are praying outside of abortion clinic? What do you think's gonna happen when you spy on Catholics? This is what young men feel alienated by that's a Karen with a beard right there talking about the rise of Christian nationalism. The rise of Christian nationalism is why we didn't burn down cities when Charlie was killed. What are they complaining about? What would you want in its place? A bunch of antifa thugs marching in the streets throwing Molotov cocktails? What would you want in its place? More targets looted, more buildings burned? Mangiones going around shooting the head of United Healthcare? Is that what you really want? I just don't understand what they're so upset about. This country is a Christian nation. It was founded by Christians as Charlie said. And guess what? Western civilization is defined by one through line Christianity. You are blessed by Christianity. Cnn. You are blessed by the fact that Christians are still driven to lead purposeful lives and get into politics, to get into business, to have families.

[Blake]

If they don't like Christian nationalism, they are not going to like whatever comes out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Islamic nationalism. Is that what you want? I don't think you want that. Thank you for bearing with me. Send us your emails. Freedom@charlie kirk.com subscribe to the podcast. Hour two is underway. We're going to give you an update on Utah, critical update when it comes to redistricting. We'll be back in hour two.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this REAL America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. If you have elderly parents or family members, you definitely want to listen up. In fact, the topic that we're going to discuss could apply to you as well. Whether you're 22 or 89 years old. It's home title theft and fraud. Recent cases in New York have seen victims be elderly homeowners. But but as my next guest will attest, crooks are willing to take advantage of anyone at any age. Investigative reporter John Summers joining us. John, always good to see you. These cases out of New York, pretty frightening these days.

[John Summers]

Likewise, Terrence, great to see you too, sir. Yes, this one is especially insidious because it involves an attorney in Manhattan who set up estates, plans and trusts and so on for his clients, most of whom were elderly. But during the process, Terrence, he would transfer the title or deed to their home into his name without them knowing it. And then he was able to leverage that property to take out loans or even sell it. But here's the kicker. He did it to his wife's grandfather who was put into a home, a nursing home, and needed his house to be able to take care of him while he was in the nursing home and then pass on the residual residual to his his relatives the attorney took his home without him knowing it. Well, in New York, now it is a crime. Title theft or deed theft. And this attorney was arrested, he was tried, he was convicted, found guilty, and now he is in prison. But usually this is not the process, Terence. Usually the crook gets away with it, and nobody knows about it until it's way too late.

[Terrence Bates]

Are you seeing a move from coast to coast? Obviously, we're talking about cases specific to New York, but are you seeing any moves from coast to coast where states are trying to protect potential victims on the front end? Because the reality is he had access to information that allowed him to victimize people.

[John Summers]

That's correct, Terrence. There is now kind of an awakening that this is a real crime, although most states consider it civil. And then you have to go through the court system and hire an attorney, and it takes sometimes years. And sometimes the original owner of the home actually gets evicted. It's a terrible crime. And the elderly are especially vulnerable. But it can happen to anybody, anywhere. And there are crime syndicates out there all around the world that can do this. It's very, very easy to do. In the old days, you would go down to the county clerk's office and transfer for the paperwork, and usually they wouldn't ask. But now with AI and the Internet and so on, you can get a notary stamp off the Internet. It's very easy to do remotely. And, boy, I tell you what, you're. You're. You're a sitting duck out there. And it doesn't have to be your home. It can be open property, it can be Airbnb, it can be an apartment complex, whatever. They're all up for grabs.

[Terrence Bates]

Wow. And that's where Home Title Lock comes in. If the states aren't necessarily going to protect you, aren't prepared to protect you at this point, you have to protect yourself.

[John Summers]

Exactly, Terrence. And this company you just mentioned, Home Title Lock, they are the pioneers in the industry. I've done a lot of research on this. These folks are the best. And here's what they do that none of the other services do. At least as thorough as they do, they will monitor your title 24 7. You can't do that. Possibly even if you took a mattress down to the clerk's office and, you know, checked every five minutes, it's impossible to be able to prevent this crime unless you have a monitoring system that can monitor it 24 7. Then they alert you if there's something fishy going on. And then if for some reason, the title actually gets transferred they will work with you up to a million dollars to restore it so that you don't have to go through the court system. They handle all of this for you. Home title lock. And by the way, just go on their website, Terrence, check it out for yourself. There's a 30 day free trial that will do a scan on your house and I think we have a code for them. I believe it's news break.

[Terrence Bates]

That's correct.

[John Summers]

Just go on there and check it out. Do your own due diligence. Don't take my word for it, but you need to protect yourself. It's very inexpensive and it's peace of mind.

[Terrence Bates]

Always good to talk to you, my friend. Again, that promo code that you just mentioned there, folks, Newsbreak, New square B R E A k. Go to hometitlek.com for a free trial and the title history report and use that promo code. Newsbreak.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. Here we have Rob Axon, who's the chairman of the Utah Republican Party, joining us now.

[Blake]

It's a good Republican name.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's Rob Axon. Yeah, that is a, that is a very solid name, Rob. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show, sir. And I just wanted to be with you guys. Yeah, it's great to have you. I want to just, you know, celebrate what I would say is a remarkable Herculean effort that was undertaken by you guys in Utah. Turning Point Action was honored to help and come alongside and give you guys a little shot in the arm. But all I saw for weeks was Utah cannot do this. They're not gonna get the 200,000 signatures. And man, I was not feeling super optimistic. But why don't you give our audience an update on what Prop 4 is and what it took, what you guys have been embarking on on the signature drive. Yeah.

[Rob Axon]

Well, first and foremost, a huge shout out and thank you to so many partners across the country and most importantly here in Utah and certainly couldn't do it without Turning Point Action and the help of all of you guys. And really the movement that Charlie and so many people have built, it's alive and strong here in this country. It's certainly alive and strong here in Utah. So here's where we were in a nutshell. In 2018, Proposition 4 was put onto the ballot. It passed by a very narrow margin. It provided an independent, whatever that means, but an independent redistricting commission. And so that was supposed to provide recommendations to the legislature on drafting maps in the language itself. When voters voted for it. It was referred to again as a recommending body. And it said that the recommendations could be accepted or rejected by the legislature. So, okay, that's fine. I didn't like it. But at least it was constitutional. The problem is there's been a lawsuit and it led to a court decision here in Utah 18 months ago by our state supreme court that I believe they got wrong where they gave preeminence to legislative initiative authority over that of our elected representatives, kind of defeating representative democracy. So that was issue one. Issue two, we had a lower court judge who then, based off of that ruling, threw out our congressional maps and picked a map of her own choosing that came from a private group, one that did not go through the commission, and more importantly, one that did not comply with Article 9 of Utah's State constitution that says the only body that can draft maps is the state legislature. You can't ignore the constitution. You can't ignore it. If you don't like it, you can change the constitution, but you can't ignore it. Certainly not by one judge. So enough was enough. And we engaged in an initiative process to repeal Prop 4. And that's what we were successful in meeting the threshold requirements necessary and what we submitted over the weekend.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, so here's my first question. So I lived in California for a while and I've seen a number of these signature drives to get propositions on. On the ballot. Usually you gotta get a certain number past the. Past the finish line. Cause especially in California, they're gonna throw out like a third of your signatures or 20% of your signatures. But I wanna underscore a point here. I have a question and a point. The point is the fact that you guys did this, which I think in such quick time with weird press, turning point action came out.

[Blake]

They needed. I'm looking here, they needed. There's 29 state Senate districts and you needed to hit the threshold in 26 of them. So you couldn't even just blob in the most Republican parts. You had to do it all across the state, Even the most liberal parts, even the most rural parts. You had to. Very dramatic achievement.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so the headlines were that you weren't gonna pull it off. You did pull it off. Do you think we have enough extra? Once the isn't the secretary of state is gonna. Their office is gonna review the signatures.

[John Summers]

Yes.

[Rob Axon]

So the clerks will go through in each of the respective counties and they're going to count all of those. Then it is officially certified by the lieutenant governor. Here's what's interesting. Our requirement statewide is about 141,000 signatures. That's what we need. That's 8% of registered voters here in Utah. You then, as was mentioned, you need 8% of registered voters in at least 26 of 29 Senate districts. We went and engaged in every single senate district. We went and engaged wherever and everywhere we could, and we did it in a consistent way, showcasing the importance of representative government, showcasing the importance of adhering to the Constitution and not stepping back from that obligation. The nice thing is we exceeded the numbers necessary by a large margin. We've turned in well over 200,000 by tens of thousands, more than 200,000 signatures. And so even with those that will be kicked out, I think we are in a phenomenal spot. Now, here's the challenge, though. We have this cork in Utah's law, where for the next number of weeks, so just about 45 days from the point that we've submitted it, actually a little bit longer. It's the point from when a person's signature is verified, they can have their name removed. They have to voluntarily do that. The problem is the left is spending about $4 million now to come in and try to bully and shame and intimidate people. You can't make this stuff up. The very people who claim that they want to listen to the people are the ones who are right now trying to intimidate and drive people from ever being heard. All we did is put this on the ballot. All this does is give it to Utahns to make a decision instead of one judge. That's an important distinction. And now the left is trying to prevent the people from having their voice be heard.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, so is there an action item that we can give our audience on what they should do or to counter it or just get the word out that people are trying to get? Trying to intimidate signatories? Yep.

[Rob Axon]

I think that's the key thing. Just let people know. So if you're here in Utah listening, or if you have friends in Utah, make sure that they know. Don't be intimidated when somebody comes in and tries to say that you need to pull your name off. Be confident. All you did by signing onto this is put it on the ballot, and you're saying that you trust the people of Utah. Stand in that. Be proud of that. Trust the people of Utah. Don't listen to these angry activist groups. Don't listen to a judge. Don't listen to an elected official. Don't listen to me. Let's give it to the people of Utah. Let the people of Utah decide. This policy, which has been way too chaotic for the last six years, certainly has not been implemented in a way that respects the will of the people. Back in 2018, we're now giving it back to Utahns to decide. One other thing that would be a call to action that would be helpful is we are engaging in a messaging campaign to make sure that people realize that they're trying to be fooled by these outside groups. That takes money. And so if any of your listeners are willing to donate, they can go to Utahns for Representative Government's website website which is ufrg.org and you can donate there. And we'll use that to make sure to continue to fight for representative government.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, and let's get that URL up on on screen guys. U F R G and I just want to give a quick shout out to org.org.org what I say, I don't know what I said. Ufrg.org and we'll get that up on the, on the lower here so people have it the I just want to give a quick shout out to the White House. By the way, you know sometimes people are like they're sleep at the wheel or something like that. No, they, they, they heard your guys appeal. James Blair, Susie Wiles. They, they sent resources. They people told them it couldn't be done in this, this quick order. They, you, they helped you guys out, got it over the finish line. Turning point Action Scott Pressler. So this has been an all hands on deck effort to get this really quick here. Rob, what, what was the the old maps versus the new maps and what was going to be the party breakdown just based on like D plus R plus?

[Rob Axon]

Yeah, well and before I jump into that, you're exactly right. And it's not just a shout out to the president. It's not just a shout out to partners across the country. Turning point Scott Pressler, Matt Brassal and Tim Saylor. I mean all of these people that folks in conservative politics know, it's not just a shout out to these people. These people are true friends of Utah. Utah is always flyover state throughout my lifetime. It's easy to ignore. This was a chance where people came, rallied to our defense, to our support. It was a partnership all along the way and I am grateful for every Utahn who signed on to this, every Utahn who supported and volunteered and all of those partners outside of Utah. Now to your question. Our four congressional districts, these are districts that represent the will of the people. Thirteen percent of Utahans are Democrats. This new map that this judge picked put together and pretty much it's the most gerrymandered manipulated map in Utah's history. She put most of the Democrats into one congressional district. And so you go from 13% of Utah's voters being Democrats to now one of our four congressional maps as proposed and, and to be implemented by this judge is a Kamala Harris plus 28. It's ridiculous. It's not competitive. It's not representative of the people of Utah. It was not accountable and translated transparent to us. We can't fire this judge. We can't. We didn't have any engagement on this. She went and created the most gerrymandered map this state has ever seen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jeez. Well, this is what the judges do. The will of the people be damned. They're just gonna be active. I don't understand what it is about these professions that draw a certain type of people. Rob, great job. This was amazing. Go to ufrg.org support their efforts. Gotta get this over the finish line, folks. Folks, gotta get it over the finish line. We'll talk to you again. We'll be right back.

[John Summers]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mike Davis]

The rev.

[Blake]

The reverend the rev.

[Charlie Kirk]

Died at 84.

[Blake]

I guess our younger view, even I, his peak didn't. I was not around for.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, nor was I, I don't think.

[Blake]

Yeah, so it's, it's a bit older but, but it's worth commenting about because he does represent a, I guess you might say a transitional figure in American politics. He's, you might say like kind of one of the last great religious figures on the left. I mean he was a. The Reverend as he would use in his title. But we were saying, we were talking during the break. One of the saddest things about him is he represents one of the most shameful elements of the Democratic Party which is the way Christian leaders, self identified Christian clergyman, even sold out on some of the most important issues. Because in the 1970s after Roe vs Wade happened, he condemned it. He wrote pro life things and then in the 80s he ran.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, he didn't just condemn abortion, he called it genocide, he called it murder. He was a, he was a child born out of wedlock. And so he, the people had actually advised his mom to abort him. And he's alive because his mom. Well, he's now dead. But he lived a life because his mom did not abort him. And then by the 1980s when he decided he was gonna run For President in 1984, 1988, he changed his views to align with the Democrat party platform, which is shameful actually.

[Blake]

It was a real tragedy. And other Democrats did the same thing. Mario Cuomo, that was the father of the, the other Cuomos that you are familiar with. He was a pro life Democrat. He was a Catholic Democrat in 60s 70s and then he also wanted. Had national ambitions. He also swerved to the left on that, as did other Democrats. People may have forgotten but in like the 60s and 70s it was actually, you might have called it a live issue whether the. Which party might end up being the pro life one. Because Catholics were heavily associated with the Democratic Party and that was where the pro life was movement was. And it's just slowly they were all pushed out of the party or they were pushed in Jackson's case to just change their views on that really critical issue. And I'm sad to say that that's one of his chief legacies was enabling that because he was. People younger people won't realize this, but before Obama he was probably the most famous black political figure in America, especially on the left. And I think if he'd remained firm on that issue, if he had said we are going to be pro life and we will not change in that he could have really reshaped the trajectory of America in a powerfully pro life Christian.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know if you said this before, but he was sort of most famous for marching with Dr. Martin Luther King. He was present at his death and he kind of assumed some of that mantle after he had a king's blood.

[Blake]

On him famously afterwards. And so he used that to understandably claim a leadership role in the movement. He was only in his 20s at the time. And I think. Is that them at the MEM Memphis Hotel? I can't remember if that's literally.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know if that was from when he was killed or not. But the. So he did have one redeeming quality.

[Blake]

Well, he. So this is a funny bit we wanted to make sure because he had some viral moments he would occasionally use. Interesting stuff. Another thing I should mention, by the way, he is the person who popularized African American as a term Black Americans instead of some other. Yeah, that. And which. That was the most common term you heard, I would say when I was growing up, early 2000.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's been a push and then they.

[Blake]

Pushed back and now black has become the default one again. But another thing that is very funny. This is probably the last time he went really viral as a figure in politics. This is when Barack Obama was running for president. He wasn't even the nominee yet, I believe. And he got angry because he felt that. That Barack Hussein Obama was talking down to other black Americans. And so he said in a hot mic moment that he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off. Let's play 385.

[Charlie Kirk]

Talking down to black people. He did that again, by the way. Barack did that again in the 2024 campaign. Remember when he went and talked to those black men and kind of like guilted them and.

[Blake]

Yeah. Which I don't think is the. Certainly not the worst thing that Rock Obama did.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. President well known, of course. But President Trump chimed in on truth. They had a long standing friendship. President Trump helped him throughout the years. Said the Reverend Jesse Jackson is dead at 84. I knew him well long before becoming president. He was a good man with lots of personality, grit and street smarts. He was very gregarious, someone who truly loved people. Despite the fact that I am falsely and consistently called a racist by the scoundrels and lunatics on the radical left Democrats all It was always my pleasure to help Jesse along the way. I provided office space for him and his Rainbow Coalition for years in the Trump building at 40 Wall street, responded to his request for help getting criminal justice reform passed and signed when no other president would even try. Single handedly pushed and passed long term funding for historically backed colleges and universities, which Jesse loved, but also so which other president would not do. Other presidents would not do. Responded to Jesse's support for opportunity zones and on and on he goes. So President Trump had a longstanding friendship with Jesse Jackson. I would say he was a man with a very mixed history, certainly some good with some bad. I would say he ended not as well, not as strong.

[Blake]

I will say I think the period of his peak in American politics, politics is a period where I think the sense was that race relations in America got better rather than worse. I would, maybe, maybe I'm mistaken. I wasn't around there for it.

[Charlie Kirk]

But listen, I think he peaked in the 70s when he was pro life.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

And by the time he started running for politics, I think the wheels came off a bit. But you know, there was a funny local. He famously couldn't say words, he would mumble. And there was actually a radio host in Los Angeles that used to do what the hell did Jeff Jesse Jackson say? Segment and they would play this a clip just kind of out of context. You didn't know what it was, but it was just him mumbling something and then he would take callers to try and guess what the actual translation was.

[Blake]

That's amazing. But I want to, I want to double back on that. I would say I think what Charlie would flag the most of all is he really could have been a transformational figure if he'd held the line on the life issue. I think, and I think we should all feel sad that he didn't step up to that task. I think America would be, would have had a very different 80s, 90s, 2000s. We might have, maybe Casey would have been what overturned it instead of dos. We might have, frankly, we might have saved millions of lives if he'd been a little more courageous. And that's a lesson to all of us.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well said. We'll be back.

[Terrence Bates]

Terrance Bates here with your real America's Voice news break. Thanks so much for being here with us. Civil rights icon and two time presidential candidate Reverend Jesse Jackson is dead. He passed away early this morning at 84 years old, surrounded by his family. In a statement about the death, Jackson's family writing, our father was a servant leader. Not only for our family, but to the oppressed, the voiceless and the overlooked. Around the world. His unwavering belief in justice, equality and love uplifted millions. And we ask you to honor his memory by continuing the fight for the values he lived by. Jesse Jackson, dead at 84 years old. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy continuing to try and make America healthy again by looking into the safety of ultra processed foods. The secretary claims the current industry standards aren't enough because food companies are allowed to independently verify the safety of their ingredients without government oversight and if they are recognized by experts as safe. Kennedy says there's currently no single definition of ultra processed foods used by the federal regulators. As a result, the FDA and the Department of Agriculture are working to establish a uniform definition. Lawmakers in New Mexico are set to start work today on an investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch. Epstein is accused of trafficking and sexually assaulting girls and women there. A bipartisan committee wants to hear testimony from survivors of alleged sexual abuse at the ranch, which is located about 30 miles outside the state capitol of Santa Fe. New Mexico's so called Truth Commission will be comprised of four lawmakers who are tasked with identifying ranch guests and state officials who may have known what was going on there or even taken part. Sexual abuse at the mansion and early voting in Georgia's 14th congressional district special election continues today after opening just yesterday. Nearly 20 candidates are vying to fill the seat vacated by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene. President Trump is endorsing former prosecutor Clay Fuller. However, with so many people in the race, it may be difficult for one candidate to earn the majority needed to win the race outright. If that happens, the top two vote getters, regardless of party affiliation, will advance to a runoff. By the way, President Trump will be in that area on Thursday. Campaigning. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mike Davis]

I mean, this transparency act by Tom Massie and Ro Hanna, whatever the hell his name is, it did not produce the result they thought it would produce because they're morons. And we, we see that they are grandstanders and they're more concerned about getting clicks and raising money for their congressional campaigns than getting to the truth. I would just ask, where was Tom Thomas Massie and Rohana, or whatever the hell his name is, where were they for the four years of Biden? When Biden was in office, they weren't demanding these, these records. It's obvious this is political. They also smeared four good men by saying that those men were implicated in this Epstein mess. And instead of acknowledging that they were wrong and apologizing to these four men who they smeared, they've doubled down and tripled down, and they've even blames the Justice Department for their own stupidity. So those two members of Congress can go to hell.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And it does strike me, if you're a Democrat or an independent out there, that's considered, you know, let's just say conservative. If you're conservative out there considering voting Democrat next year because you don't like the way that the doj, Trump's doj, or Trump himself, has handled the Epstein thing, you have to ask the question. They were in power for four years and they did nothing. They sat on this until they saw political opportunity to weaponize it against President Trump because they saw that our people wanted the Epstein files to be more transparent, to be released. But your point is very well made that, that innocent people are getting smeared in this. There is conjecture. There is. I mean, even Elvis Presley is in the Epstein files. But there does seem to be this lack of a smoking gun. We had Jay Beecher on, who's a reporter on this. He was talking about the fact that it was actually Virginia Guthrey who was the one that popularized this idea of this large blackmail ring that he had had lists full of people he had compromised on, but we're not really seeing that. And so I guess the question is, you're well connected to the doj. There are other co conspirators named in some of the files, like Les Wexner. Are you hearing that. That there are suits being, you know, cases being built against the coconspirators that did sort of turn to blind eye that enabled him.

[Mike Davis]

As I've said, if you rape kids, you deserve the death penalty. There's no question about that. The problem is if you don't have victims who come forward and want to testify. If you don't have evidence, you can't bring charges. And that's the issue. We also have the rule, Federal rules of evidence. We also have the federal rules of criminal procedure. There, there is a reason that grand jury evidence is secrets because it's not tested, it's not subject to, to cross examination. And people can go in and it's one sided and people can go in and say whatever the hell they want and they're not subject to confrontation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Mike Davis]

And so that's why this grand jury evidence is secret. You, you make it public through the federal rules of evidence and the federal rules of criminal procedure through a trial with the proper safeguards to make sure that the evidence is relevant and it's not unfairly prejudicial. You're not going to smear people like Thomas Massie did with those four guys and Rohana, his Democrat co conspirator did to those four guys who were innocents.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Mike Davis]

That's the whole reason we have these procedures to protect victims, to protect witnesses, to protect, to protect those who are accused. We've had these in place for centuries. But we got rid of this because Thomas Massie decided he was going to pass legislation for the first time in his life, conveniently timed to think they're going to try to use it to screw over President Trump and it backfired and blew up in their faces.

[Blake]

Yeah, it's, yeah, I've, Mike, I've been very, he's control. I'm the contrarian. I've been, I was skeptical, I've been skeptical about a lot of the Epstein stuff probably, you know, since this really started to whip up last summer. And I think it's, it's very, it's worth emphasizing what you said where, you know, if you want to bring criminal charges, you need actual alleged specific acts by specific people. And I do feel there's been this miasma around it where it's like, why isn't everyone being charged? Why aren't there arrests and convictions? But as you say, like, considering we have so many alleged victims of all of this, there's been a, strikes me as a huge shortage of anyone stepping up to specifically say I had this specific crime done to me by this specific person. And if you don't have that, what exactly are you going to indict?

[Mike Davis]

Well, let me make this other point that I think is important. If you want to bring accountability for the lawfare against President Trump, his aides and his allies, then let's not Demand that every good person in the Justice Department has to sit through months and months and months of document review on this Epstein BS because that's what happens. The reason we're not seeing accountability on lawfare right now is because Thomas Massie and his Democrat buddies have all the Trump Justice Department people up to their eyeballs in Epstein document review for many months. So there are finite resources at the Justice Department, as there should be. And we had to focus on Thomas Massie's priorities, his. His political nonsense, rather than actually holding people accountable for their crimes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's a really interesting point, Mike. So you, you have been. You are become famous by being a bulldog, Being infamous. Infamous by being a bulldog. You are always on the front foot, on the balls of your feet, and you are moving forward, trying to go after the bad guys. Guys on the left, get the right judges, right prosecutors in place. What are. I guess the question sort of, you could take it in either direction. What are we missing out on right now? Because you said they're up to their eyeballs reviewing documents on Epstein. What are we not doing? But also, what are we doing that you at the doj, Pam Bondi, Harmeet Dhillon, what are they doing that you think is getting missed by the noise that is Epstein?

[Mike Davis]

I think the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, is doing a phenomenal job. She's bold, she's fearless. She fires people. She hires the right people. She brings charges, she dismisses bogus, politicized charges. She has bigger balls than all the Republican white male attorneys general before her combined. And people are constantly attacking her. And it seems to align with this Epstein Massey weirdo crowd that they're. They're constantly attacking her on this stuff, and it's distracting and it's diverting resources from the cases that actually matter. If Thomas Massie actually cared about Epstein and these victims, where the hell was he for four years of Biden? This is obviously a political game by him. He's teaming up with Democrats on this political game. All these Epstein freaks keep attacking Pam Bondi, who's doing a remarkable job given the terrible circumstances. And they want to make her job more difficult by diverting prosecutors and law enforcement agents to do this stupid Epstein review instead of actually going after crimes they can prosecute.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what about fraud? What about the Somali fraud? What about, you know, Nick Shirley just dropped a new video about voter fraud in California. Are you hearing from your sources inside the DOJ that those are still. We're still able to do those, or are they getting back burnered?

[Mike Davis]

They're absolutely going to get prosecuted. You can't steal, steal billions of dollars. You have Somali pirates stealing billions of dollars and sending it back to their warlords and Somalia to fight Americans and American interests. Of course they're going to get prosecuted. It takes time to gather the evidence and build these cases.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, well Mike, I'm going to, I'm going to have to just disagree with you that I think there is some more there there with the Epstein stuff. I'm a, I'm a big believer in the, in the intel agency ties we had. Mike Benzon, it was a great segment but I think you're also right that the DOJ has what the DOJ has. The FBI has what the FBI has. We have no idea what happened to those files along the way. We have no idea what's been stripped out, what's been destroyed, what's been put in a box. So it, so my, you know, this has been years in holding. Decades. We don't know what, what we don't have final word to you.

[Mike Davis]

Here's the issue. If we didn't do you think, do we really think if Democrats had evidence that Trump was implicated in the Epstein thing, do you think they would have sat on that for eight years when they made up charges against Trump for eight years the Russian collusion hoax, they brought four indictments against him. They tried to bankrupt him for non fraud but they, but they held back evidence of Epstein and let him win the election last time.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, no lies detected in the last segment. One swear word detected but we'll fix that. Thanks Mike Davis. We'll talk you to you soon. We'll be back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Tell you guys about strong cell. We already did it in hour one. We took. Yep, here's the proof. Empty two ounce little vials here and it comes with nadh which is the key powers your cells. CoQ10 and collagen. So it has this special cocktail gets it right into your body, into your cells. StrongCell.com no, it's not a place for calm.

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[Terrence Bates]

The.

[Charlie Kirk]

The elite universities, they're doing dumb things.

[Blake]

Yeah, it's been a little too long since we just beat up on them because remember, college is a scam. Charlie warned us.

[Charlie Kirk]

There was that book. It's up here somewhere.

[Blake]

The college scam.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's up there. Trust me.

[Blake]

Yeah, it's right under Right wing revolution there.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there it is.

[Blake]

All right, Excellent.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so Harvard. Blake, do you want to take this away or you want me to.

[Blake]

I want to do. I want to do the Berkeley one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do the Harvard one. Here's. Here's what's crazy. Let's go ahead and throw up this image here. This is 278. This is a history 123 class at Harvard. The course. And this is directly from the course description online. This course trains and support teams of undergraduates to contribute research and writing for asylum applicants, represented by attorneys at Maple center for Immigration Justice. This court operates on four parallel tracks. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So this is a history department. This is a history class at one of the nation's supposed elite higher education institutions, training young, susceptible, you know, vulnerable college undergrads on how to write asylum cases for illegal immigrants.

[Blake]

It really is. It's a relief to have this, in a sense, because there is so much of college that is just left wing politics with some dress up around it. And it's nice for it to be so explicit that you just can't really ever live it down. Like you took a history. A history department class. At least if it was sociology, you'd say, well, sociology is implied left wing politics anyway. But there's not even, as far as I can tell, a plausible history connection to that. No, the guy decided, I am converting my Harvard class that you're paying $20,000 to take or whatever. Just that Course, of course. And we're converting it into a left.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wing political opposition activist organization. So let's, let's just. One clip on Charlie raging against Harvard. 262.

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Harvard University has a $50 billion endowment. They have a tax exempt status. They get money for research grants. Why is it as a country which is $35 trillion in debt, we continue to finance universities that hate us? And what good actually is Harvard University going to keep on doing with our taxpayer funding? The garbage and the nonsense that is being spewed out of Harvard, out of Princeton, out of Yale, out of Brown University, out of Cornell is noticeable. And it's remarkable. It's really worth asking, has Harvard just become a Democrat think tank? And if they are, why are they taxpayer funded entity?

[Charlie Kirk]

I notice he didn't mention Dartmouth, your alma mater.

[Blake]

Yeah, you know, you would have some kindness there. But no, and it's. We want to flag that. I want to hit Berkeley, but I also am going to double back to Harvard. So make sure they do that. But there's a lot of classes like this. UC Berkeley is another distinguished school of higher learning. And this one's a public university too. So we should note that. And this is a story that happened in late January, but it's worth highlighting. This is a headline on them us, which is a great website name, I must say. Berkeley students make 300,000 Wikipedia edits to preserve queer history against Trump. And this is apparently a quite on a long, ongoing thing, but a professor just drafted her students to write sections on Wikipedia that include queer theory.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I have critical race theory. But I asked this question because I, I've seen it repeated multiple times. Right. This, that you've got the Olympian that's talking about. Oh, it's really hard for the LGBTQ community now that Trump's an officer office. Why? Why is it hard? I want one of you right in [e-mail] Please, please send this to your liberal friends. Explain to me like I'm five. What, what has Trump done to the queer community? What? Nothing. President Trump, like, kind of supports queer community.

[Blake]

He's like, he really is not that exercise.

[Charlie Kirk]

He is not that exercise. He is a Manhattan cosmopolitan elite himself. He doesn't care that you're gay. Stop acting like you're being persecuted, like Christians are being persecuted. Actually, this is the most obscene thing to me ever. What. What are they preserving in the era of Trump? What? Queer Wikipedia articles need to be preserved because President Trump is coming after them? Yeah, it's a perceived victimhood garbage narrative that I completely and utterly reject Professor.

[Blake]

Maria Rodriguez as AOC might pronounce it her. She's had her students create 300,000 edits, over 3,000 citations, and they've garnered over 96 million views. And I think if you've been to Wikipedia in recent history, you actually can kind of tell. Like, I've talked to a lot of people and they can tell. It's like Google search. It's clearly gotten worse over the years.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm a graph.

[Blake]

You can, you can read Grockpedia. It's actually quite good. AIs have gotten good at those summary type topics, of course.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I want to, I want to.

[Blake]

Double back to Harvard on this specific point because another thing I saw today, we have to just be aware where colleges are not. You know, we've talked about whether there's a vibe shift against woke and there's certain initial stuff. The Trump administration bullied Harvard and Columbia and a few of these other schools on a few things, but they're clearly not on our side at all. A lot of them are hoping they can wait it out. And there's been a lot of radicalization even over the past few months, where they're getting whipped up again just like in, they did in 2017, 2018, because of ICE activities. And, and we have to realize this is frankly, a once in a lifetime opportunity to hold some of these universities to account. So, for example, Harvard is subject to the Supreme Court's ruling in Students for Fair Admission versus Harvard, which said, okay, you can't racially discriminate against Asians and white people any more than you can discriminate against other races. Well, since then, we have the numbers on Harvard's demographics and the evidence suggests basically what they did is they stopped discriminating against Asians, but they still discriminate against whites. So if Harvard is going to be creating entire classes where your sole purpose is to undermine the nation's laws by feeding more illegal immigrants into this country and preventing their deportation, how about we take the doj and if we need to hire more lawyers there, we should 100% do that and go look at Harvard and say, yeah, Harvard, you seem to still be discriminating against people, so you know your money is going to be subject to some retention here until we get this result.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, and I think we should tax the endowments. If you have over, let's say, but.

[Blake]

We don't need to pass anything to investigate them or.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, but if you have over like $10 billion in an endowment, we should start taxing it. You've got enough, right? Tax the rich. Isn't that what you left wingers like to like to say? It's been a fun show. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for watching. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.