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President Trump is hosting the first Board of Peace meeting. He will be speaking in just a little bit. You can see there, Marco Rubio there. 40 nations are represented at this inaugural meeting. Marco, you really did yourself proud 2 days ago in Munich. In fact, so proud that I almost terminated his employ because they were saying, why can't Trump do this? I do, but I say it differently. But, Marco, don't do any better than you did, please. Because if you do, you're out of here. But no, he got it was, I want my guys to do great. And the acclaim he's got and the acclaim JD Gets is we have smart people. You know who is not one of my guests tonight? That's Texas State Representative James Talarico. He was supposed to be here, but we were told in no uncertain terms by our network's lawyers who called us directly that we could not have him on the broadcast. Colbert says CBS bosses told him he could not broadcast an interview with Talarico over concerns about the FCC's equal time rule, which requires political candidates get equal time on broadcast. TV shows have been exempted for years. CBS is denying that it ever ordered issued any such orders. Well, Colbert says he's still obliged, taking the interview off tv, posting it online. Well, it went viral and now he's mocking CBS efforts of damage control. You had a Democrat candidate who understood the way that the news media works, and he took advantage of all of your sort of prior conceptions to run a hoax, apparently for the purpose of raising money and getting clicks. And the news media played right into it. I think yesterday was a perfect encapsulation of why the American people have more trust in gas station sushi than they do in the national news media. This TV drama is boosting Talarico's campaign. It reports raising more than $2 million over the last 24 hours. Timing matters as early voting is underway in Texas. FCC opening probe into the View after appearance by Talarico. Do you mean to cause trouble? I think that Donald is worried that we're about to flip Texas. So they told him he couldn't have
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James Tallarico on the show or advised him not to.
Brendan Carr
What did he do?
Blake
Well, he basically started the show and
Charlie Kirk
said, you know who's not on my show? James Talarico.
Brendan Carr
Because the lawyers told me I couldn't.
Charlie Kirk
And instead I'm going to do an
Blake
interview with him and it's going to be on YouTube. And guess what? A lot, a lot, a lot of people watched it. I mean, over the course course of
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all of the social media networks and
Blake
places that people could watch, about 6 million people saw this interview, which is
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more than would have even seen on Stephen Colbert's show.
Blake
So that didn't exactly work for them. The other thing that happened completely backfired. Totally backfired.
Brendan Carr
You're censoring people over there now. You're afraid they're here. You're on the verge of going after cbs. Well, President Trump has been so far ahead of the curve on so many issues, as you noted on the economy, on border security and perhaps nowhere else. When he called out the legacy media for being fake news and yesterday the American people got to see that on full display. It's why people have more trust and faith in gas station sushi today than they do in the legacy news media. This was Democrat on Democrat violence. Teller goes tweet on screen. He said the FCC banned our Colbert interview. And he's wrong about that. The FCC did not ban the interview. And that's what is actually so interesting about this. It's about the impression, the possibility of interference causing the networks to possibly self censor.
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The federal government did not shut down
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this segment, number one, that is my
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understanding that the federal government did not didn't shut this down. Either Mr. O' Leary or CBS decided that they just did one here and that there may have been advice to just have me on and then they could clear the issue. I think Donald Trump's rise, Donald Trump
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All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. February 19, 2026. We're at the Bitcoin.com studios here in Phoenix, Arizona. Bitcoin.com, your one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin. Check those guys out. Bitcoin.com Blake I woke up this morning and I was like woohoo. Prince Andrew's been arrested. This is Going to be great. We're going to get him on all the pedophilia stuff.
Blake
It's a bad day for Andrews.
Charlie Kirk
Hopefully only one Andrew. Let's, you know, a trend.
Blake
Trend. A trend is a trend.
Charlie Kirk
A trend is trend. Well, okay, let's hope it's a good day for this Andrew and a bad day for Prince Andrew. So I thought that we were fine. I thought we were going to finally blow the doors open on this whole Epstein thing. I mean, literally the first thing I looked at on my phone, my eyes are blurry. I'm just waking up. And unfortunately it has nothing to do with anything, you know, of sex trafficking of minors or any of the innuendo or the salacious stuff. It looks like Prince Andrew was arrested for forwarding documents. This according to the BBC in 2010 related to his work as I guess, let's see here. Yeah, it's a British trade envoy, but they have a specific title for him. U.S. uK Special Representative for International Trade and Investment. So it looks like in 2010 he sent over documents to he forward them over to Jeffrey Epstein, documents that he obtained in his official duties as a trade envoy that included some investment opportunities in gold and uranium. And that's what they got him on. It's misconduct in a public office. Now it's very.
Blake
It feels a lot like Al, the famous Al Capone thing where he was involved in murders and bootlegging and every manner of crime, extortion, racketeering. And they got him because he didn't pay income tax on his illegal gains. And there's a lot of allegations against Prince Andrew of various levels of salaciousness. And he has been arrested for forwarding the email that is linked in the
Charlie Kirk
New York Times write up misconduct.
Blake
This is literally the text of the email that's linked in the New York Times. It is just a forward of an email he received from his assistant, Amit Patel. Sir, please find attached the visit reports for Vietnam, Singapore, Hong Kong and Shenzhen in relation to your recent visit to Southeast Asia. Thank you, Amit.
Charlie Kirk
So he forwards those over to Jeffrey Epstein. Apparently they included, like I said, gold and uranium investment opportunities, essentially insider trading, which on the one hand does sort of, I think, shed a little light on how Epstein would make his money. Yes, he had inside sources. It's essentially insider trading at this point. If you get advanced intel on official head of state visits or heads of state, but official government agencies, in this case visiting foreign countries, getting intel on possible investments. Okay, so that's what it is. King Charles. So the brother of Prince Andrew has released a statement. He says, I have learned with the deepest concern the news about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, which is a very interesting title and there is a backstory to why he's not called Prince Andrew or His Royal Highness titles stripped his titles, but he calls him Andrew Montbatten Windsor, suspicion of misconduct in public office. What now follows is the full fair and proper process by which this issue is investigated in the appropriate manner and by the appropriate authorities. In this, as I have said before, they have our full and wholehearted support and cooperation. Let me state clearly, the law must take its course. As this process continues, it would not be right for me to comment further on this matter. Meanwhile, my family and I will continue in our duty and service to you all. CHARLES R. All right, so this was then followed by all of these headlines throughout 525 from the Daily Mail, which is known to be a bit what's the right word for the Daily Mail?
Blake
The Daily Mail is the best publication in the English language, okay?
Charlie Kirk
But they are somewhat they rush to judgment.
Blake
They are headlines sensationalist in the best way. They've covered Ilhan Omar, the incest story, her cheating on her husband. They get photos of everything.
Charlie Kirk
So here's the way it works. A little inside baseball for you watching at home, because I've dealt with these scoundrels a lot.
Blake
Talking about me?
Charlie Kirk
No, that's, that's next segment. They basically put these headlines into multiple they feed it out into the Internet and they have ABCDE testing and sometimes they use AI to create the biggest clickbait. They want to know what you're going to click on. So that's what Daily Mail does. That's their whole thing. You will get a headline that has nothing to do with the body of the article, but they learned through actual cause and effect, watching what you will click on, what gets the most clickbait. That is the whole game over. Daily Mails, what headline can get you to click on it? So what are they going to use? AI so they go Trump faces furious Epstein backlash after Andrew detained. We have zero rest. All right, so this is so now you've got Thomas Massie, you've got, you've got Marjorie Taylor Greene and a lot of others out on social media saying, well, you, they got Prince Andrew, why haven't you done anything? Pam Bondi and Donald Trump. And so that is the case. But here's the, here's the crux. The assumption is the same assumption I made this morning, that they were going to get that Andrew got arrested on pedophilia, on sex trafficking, minors, something like this. There's Thomas Massie's tweet. That's not at all the case. He got arrested on a process charge for forwarding a document to Jeffrey Epstein in 2010 related to his official government
Blake
kind of maybe alleged insider trading 16 years ago.
Charlie Kirk
Correct.
Blake
Well, so technically, official misconduct is what it is, which is a British offense. But I'm going to, you know, it's going to annoy a lot of people. But I've got to push back on this, like, as I like to. I like to read Michael Tracy on X because he, he gives a lot of pushback and he points out, I think it's worth remembering, first of all, this is Britain. Britain's the sort of country where you get arrested for saying things people don't like on social media about migrants. It is a country that has a quite 1984 esque willingness to gin up charges for political reasons. And so, yes, like Prince Andrew looks very bad because he was a big associate of Jeffrey Epstein and that's gross. And he probably did it because he wanted to sleep with young women.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Blake
But at the same time, the main allegations against him came from Virginia Guthrey, which, as our guest the other week, said Jay Beecher. Yeah, Jay Beecher.
Brendan Carr
He.
Blake
She's a serial fabulous. She lied about a lot of people.
Charlie Kirk
She's the one. Virginia Guthrie, for our audience's sake, is alleged to have been the one that created this, this aura, this narrative about her. Created the narrative Black male list.
Blake
To the extent underage women were recruited, she played a central role in that and encouraged them to lie, to get like, there's a lot of negative stuff there. So she's the source of a lot of these allegations. His alleged relationship with her is the basis for this. And yet in the uk, where they met, like she actually was of legal age, according to British laws.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Blake
And that is what drove this. And so they are bringing this case because of big allegations. But I think it's worth remembering what the origin of this is. And then we go back to what the President himself said last summer. A lot of people are going to be getting tarred and hit for things that are running ahead of what the facts are or where there's nothing proven. And we're kind of seeing this here where they're just, they're howling. Where are the arrests?
Charlie Kirk
What were these arrests before the comeuppance for Prince Andrews? That he was a dirty, you know, dirty old man. Dirty old man. And you know, he showed some really poor judgment. What's funny also though is this clip from 2015 of President Trump has surfaced now, which I think is just fantastic. Once again, Trump just has this, this knack of coming out unscathed. 524.
Glenn Sturtevant
You raised the question of Jeffrey Epstein
Charlie Kirk
in your remarks about in the Q
Brendan Carr
and A. I think he's got a problem. What do you think the problem will be? I don't know. But that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it. Just ask Prince Andrew, he'll tell you about it.
Charlie Kirk
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Blake
I think I saw some more. They said it was the first ever. And all I can remember is that they once beheaded a king.
Charlie Kirk
I was going to say, I saw that. I saw that. That talking point as well. And yeah, it's like, okay, but at least in modern history, this. I think it would.
Blake
I think it would be a very big. It would be very unfortunate if one of the world's oldest monarchies and one of its last really big monarchies were to fall over something like this, which it very much. It might. There's a. There is a Republican movement in the UK to abolish it and just retire the royal family. I think it's definitely a movement in other countries. You know, a very funny thing is one of the biggest supports of the British royal family is not who you think. It's the Canadian left. Left wingers in Canada, like the British royal family, because they hate America. And so they see having a royal family as something that makes Canada not America.
Charlie Kirk
It's like a.
Blake
So like Justin Poole, like when King Charles visited, made his first visit after becoming king, Justin Trudeau went all out for it. He was a big fan of it. But it is a distinguished group. I think it's easy for us to dump on. I mean, we're America, we're a republic. We don't have kings, we shouldn't have kings. But as conservatives, we do respect and honor traditions, old things. We realize they have value. That's not always obvious. And I think there is a real value in the fact that there has been a king or queen of England in London for over a thousand years, that they are the descendants of those people who were there during the Blitz, who were there when Napoleon might have invaded, who were there when the armada was sailing for England. Same line of people.
Charlie Kirk
Well, and listen, I'm a big fan of the British royals. I think Western civilization needs institutions that stand up and that help guide the west back to a sense of, of its tradition, of its identity. But listen, there are things happening in the background at the DOJ that we just need to keep our eyes on and we need to sort of say, listen, the wheels of justice turn slowly sometimes, but they are happening. Okay. And again, I would mention the name Reid Hoffman. You, you've seen this just this morning that Bill Gates has dropped out of a speaking engagement due to increased scrutiny over the Epstein files. Kathy Rummler was, has stepped down at Goldman Sachs because of her connections to Jeffrey Epstein. And it was worth mentioning that she was Obama's longest serving White House counsel. So the DOJ's release of these documents, obviously spurred on by Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie, who have attempted to weaponize the release of these documents for their own political ends. It remains unclear what their ultimate intentions are here. But the whole point is, is that there is a very large faction of people that want to use these documents to get Trump. All right? And time and time again, as we saw in that 2015 document or the video, Trump comes out looking pretty darn good.
Blake
He looks amazing, actually.
Charlie Kirk
Yes.
Blake
But it's, you know, I think we should, again, be careful and to outrun this. Like, yes, Bill Gates has stepped away from things. And Bill Gates should feel embarrassed. He was very clearly close with an individual who, regardless of what other crimes he committed, was a gross figure. It was just, it's ugly that he was so close with him. And we should feel that same way with Reid and a bunch of others that they felt no shame about endlessly associating with a guy who basically, clearly
Charlie Kirk
his life revolved around teenagers.
Blake
And many of them lied about this. But it's not, frankly, it's not illegal to lie about who you're friends with. It's illegal to lie under oath to law enforcement. But we don't know if he did. So we should remember that for a lot of people, this has become a political cause out of proportion to what is actually proven, what is actually provable. And yeah, more might be coming, but we should remember that there is a lot of. We've been through a few rounds of lawfare in our time.
Charlie Kirk
Alan Bakari joins us next. We're going to turn our sights to meta and Google. We'll be right back.
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Alan Bakari
Well, look, obviously social media is addictive in a way and there have been complaints about addictive media for a long time. Before social media there were similar complaints about addiction TV and how that was ruining people's health. But I must say this framing that social media could be a health hazard is quite dangerous. And you know, asking, asking social media to be less addictive is asking them to make their product less effective. They're an information product. And the big winner at the end of the day if that happens is going to be legacy media. So you always have to look at the, who stands to benefit from this framing of social media as a health hazard? It's other information services, especially the media companies, that have been displaced by social media. Now, social media addictiveness is a real problem and there are major concerns, genuine concerns about the effect on children. But when you have to pay attention to who's latching onto this cause, it's often progressive governments like the UK that are committed to online censorship, not because they care about children. The UK government, you know, is embroiled in a scandal right now because one of their top appointees, Peter Mandelson, the former US Ambassador, was connected to the, to Jeffrey Epstein. But what they, what they, they, they see in this, in this agenda, in this narrative about addictiveness and, and the harm that social media can cause to children. A potential Trojan horse for what they actually want, which is political censorship, which is punishing social media companies that don't ban who they don't like, that, don't ban their political opponents. That's. And then if you look around the world, governments are latching onto any excuse they can find. You know, the EU has, is launching a probe into X over, you know, allegations about GROK being used to generate deepfakes. The UK has done the same thing. They even tried to team up with Australia and Canada to ban X over that issue than why they're going after X Because that's where all their political opponents are. That's where their narratives are being challenged. So when we think about the addictiveness issue, we have to think not just about the issue itself, but who's championing the cause and what the second order effects are going to be of designating social media a public health hazard. It will make it much easier to regulate and much easier to regulate those algorithms that the establishment are really quite afraid of, because those algorithms are how citizen journalists can challenge mainstream media narratives.
Blake
Well, Alim, you're definitely right. It's very clear. The British government, the German government, the French government, they want excuses to, to ban X, to fine X, and presumably other social media outlets that they are out of their control. But I think it's also clearly the case that a lot of these apps are designed to be addictive in a way that clearly is damaging young children's health. I think the rise of Facebook, Instagram, other social media is clearly correlated with young, especially teenage women's mental well being going off a cliff. We can, we can see that with the rise of the smartphone. And it strikes me that there must be some things that could be legally relevant here that don't put you in danger of widespread censorship. I think one of the most obvious is just doom scrolling, the infinite scroll that a lot of these apps use that clearly seems to be linked to addictive behavior. And I don't see how banning that would immediately imperil speech. And I just go back to. You're almost certainly familiar with this, the famous Sean Parker comment all the way back in 2017, where he basically just got on a stage and said, we engineered the app to give you a little dopamine hit every once in a while. Because if someone liked or commented on a photo or a post or whatever, and it would get you in a feedback loop and you would be hooked on it.
Charlie Kirk
Apparently we have that. Oh, we do. Yeah.
Alan Bakari
Let's play a difficult issue.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, let's. Let's go ahead and play that Sean Parker clip.
Blake
You know, if the, if the thought
Charlie Kirk
process that went into building these applications, Facebook being the first of them to
Brendan Carr
really understand it, that thought process was
Blake
all about how do we consume as
Charlie Kirk
much of your time and conscious attention as possible.
Brendan Carr
And that means that we need to
Terrence Bates
sort of give you a little dopamine
Charlie Kirk
hit every once in a while because
Brendan Carr
someone liked or commented on a photo or a post or whatever, and that's going to get you to contribute more
Charlie Kirk
content and that's going to get you, you know, more likes and comments.
Brendan Carr
And it's a, it's a valid, It's a social validation, feedback loop that it's like. I mean, it's exactly the kind of
Charlie Kirk
thing that a hacker like myself would come up with because you're exploiting a vulnerability in, in human psychology. And I just, I think that we,
Brendan Carr
you know, we, the inventors, creators, you know, and it's me, it's Mark, it's the, you know, Kevin Systrom at Instagram.
Blake
It's.
Brendan Carr
All of these people understood this consciously and we did it anyway.
Charlie Kirk
That's super. I mean, that's very chilling, actually, to watch that. They intentionally engineered their platforms to your point. They have a financial incentive to do so, Alan, to make their products as addictive as possible to get you to spend as much time on those apps as possible. But this is hurting kids. So I guess the question, I have twofold question. What are the broader implications if this lawsuit is successful? They're calling it a bellwether. I can only imagine this is gonna, if it's successful, it's gonna result in billions of financial losses for these platforms. But secondly, let's, let's concede the point that we would like to see some guardrails on these apps. What would be a positive outcome?
Alan Bakari
Well, I would, I would always want to look at who's in charge of the regulations and who's in charge of the guardrails, rather than what they necessarily are. I think conservatives really have to get involved and take charge of the child safety agenda, much like Adam Kandaib did when he was campaigning for age verification laws. He's now in the Trump administration. Ntia, because the problem is when you let progressives take on the child safety agenda, they're just going to use it as a smokescreen for political censorship. We've seen this so many times before, and it's a genuinely difficult issue because, you know, social media apps are addictive and they're particularly addictive for kids when their brains are still developing. But you look at what foreign governments are doing, like the uk, France, Spain, many other countries, they're simultaneously trying to ban social media for kids, just a blanket ban, while also trying to lower the voting age to 60. So what they want, really, and you see the end goal here, they want a voting demographic that's a power to vote, but also doesn't have access to the social media platforms, where mainstream pro government narratives might be challenged, where they might encounter information that the government and their allied NGOs and civil society organizations and mainstream media don't want. To see so that that is the real danger. So when we're trying to protect kids from addictive social media, we also have to think about how can we make sure they still have access to that, to that independent media ecosystem that exists on social media and that governments around the world are working so hard to just completely shut down. Because the same, the same technology that makes social media addictive, that causes engagement is the same technology that allows citizen journalists to go viral. That is the technology that governments around the world are so afraid of. The same technology that allows a random person to make a post, get millions of views and share information that the media doesn't want to be shared, that NGOs don't want to see shared, the governments don't want to see shared. So that's the balance you have to strike. And it's a very difficult balance to strike. And we have to be constantly aware of these organizations that have a, have an agenda that they're not telling you about when they talk about addictiveness. I want to say this like the left thinks, you know, you know, drag queen, drag queen story hour is appropriate for children. You know, they think gay pride parades are appropriate for children. They think gender reassignment surgery is appropriate for children. So we should not take any concerns coming from left wing progressives about the dangers of social media to children and child welfare seriously. They don't really care about that issue. They care about political control. They care about control of the Internet and social media platforms. And that is the danger here.
Blake
It's hugely tough. I will say if you look at what they auto feed to children on YouTube, if you make a new child's account, you definitely start worrying about more, possibly some need for regulation. But thank you, Alan.
Charlie Kirk
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Blake
I feel when I saw that headline, I'll decide within the next 10 days. My immediate thought was he has already decided, frankly, because that's what he did last time. And there's this element. You're going to decide within the next 10 days. Well, okay, you reach day 10 and you kind of know if he's decided by then, if he hasn't struck a deal and then you kind of regress back from there. It's such a strange thing to announce.
Charlie Kirk
It feels like a very Trumpian tactic. It's saber rattling. It's sort of saying, listen, if past is prologue, you know what I chose to do that time, I did strike. And you know, I'm serious about this strike. Let's go ahead and play. President Trump, he spoke about Iran just this morning, 5:38 our countries, nobody could have signed.
Brendan Carr
You would have had that threat. Nobody could have had, you couldn't had peace in the Middle East. So now we may have to take it a step further or we may not. Maybe we're going to make a deal. You're going to be, you're going to be finding out over the next probably 10 days.
Blake
Or it could be even if, you know, as you say, they remember what happened last time when they hear 10 days, Iran should be hearing, the planes are literally taking off right now. And you have 12 hours to decide.
Charlie Kirk
He continues. 539.
Brendan Carr
Now is the time for Iran to join us on a path that will complete what we're doing. And if they join us, that'll be great. If they don't join us, that'll be great, too. But it'll be a very different path. They cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region and they must make a deal. Or if that doesn't happen, I maybe can understand. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. But bad things will happen.
Charlie Kirk
All right, so again, this is very Trump.
Blake
If they don't join us, that'll be good, too.
Charlie Kirk
So here's, here's things we know. Let's separate fact from fiction here. We know that there has been a very serious and significant buildup in recent days of military assets in the region, and this would include air and naval assets in the Middle East. But insider sources in the White House have told multiple outlets that Trump is privately argued both for and against military action, and he's polling advisors and allies on what the best course of action is. Now, here's the insider scoop is that there are significant voices within the White House that are against military action, they're against foreign intervention. They stand firmly on the America first side, saying we don't want to invade Iran. We do not want a kinetic military strike in Iran. There are other voices that are very, very much chomping at the bit to do so. They see this as the one opportunity with the uprising, the organic uprising of protesters in the streets to take out the mullahs, as Sean Hannity would say, the mullets, the mullahs. So you've got competing factions within the White House. You've got the hawks and you got the doves.
Blake
It's like I, I think what could be tilting him is we've have had several of these escalations over the past year. Mostly President Trump has pushed toward peace. But where they have done things, they did the strike on Iran, it was limited, it was successful. They did the raid in Venezuela, it was limited, it was very successful. And we had these reports that President Trump was asking for military operations that were like limited in scope, limited in duration, that had a very clear cut thing. And so I think we agree Charlie did not want war with Iran. We are very skeptical of that, but what we have seen a pattern from the President is in comparison to prior administrations, he is very resistant to scope creep, he's very resistant to open ended missions. And so I think, I think the President would be wise enough to say, we don't want a bunch of troops occupying Iran. We don't want troops.
Charlie Kirk
Trump is not going to telegraph his moves, though.
Terrence Bates
He won't.
Charlie Kirk
What we can tell you is based on the assets that have been moved into the region, it does not look like a ground force is part of the equation right now. It would be naval and airstrikes.
Blake
What we are getting is we're getting the resources for a much larger air campaign than we've seen before that you have. They're sending all these F22 fighters. So that's a bunch of fighters who could shoot down every jet that goes into the sky that they could send out, send in enough bombers that you could actually, you're not just striking nuclear plants, you're hitting every military base, you're hitting every city. And I presume if that happens, the intent would be you bomb them until the government agrees to leave power. Now can that be done? If they are adamant about refusing to do so, how long would it go on? That is where it becomes a stickier question. How many, how much resources are we willing to invest in toppling a government on the far side of the world? And politically, if we do it, even if it's successful, will they make the case that this is a good use of America's time, that it's justified? And I feel even in comparison to last summer, that might be the biggest challenge for the administration. If we were to go to war with Iran tonight, I think most Americans would be asking what had prompted it.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. So this, let's, we'll sum it up here. It is a political mess for the administration to go into the Middle East. It is much trickier from a polling standpoint, from a grassroots support standpoint, than actions in Venezuela. I understand the opportunity that has been presented by this popular uprising against the mullahs in Iran. And I understand the just the carnage that the regime has exacted upon the population of Iran. However, this is the Middle East. Regime change is always messier than you anticipate. And you, at some point you have to ask the question why, why now? Is it just because Lindsey Graham, Lady Graham, is, you know, working his, his, his magic, his charms in the ear of the president or what, what is the deeper incentive now? The deeper incentive, President Trump will say, is to ensure that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon. Well, then if that is your incentive, then what's going on with the B2 strikes that happened last summer? Were those effective or were those not effective?
Blake
Let's end. It's. You have to remember for some people, they see this as maybe their last opportunity to get a regime change in Iran. You always have to be wary of that. Charlie had a lot of thoughts on this. We talked about it a lot. This is one of his tweets. 558. This is back in 2019. He said lots of rumblings we might be preparing a ground war with Iran. This would be a massive mistake. Sanctions preventing funding, canceling Iran deal are all strategic good moves. But another ground war with US Troops is not the answer. And the endless senseless wars. I think that ground troops line is the key one. And I think that would be a bright line for the president that I think he'll be wise enough not to.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I mean, that's that. I think that. I think most of us feel assured of that. The question is how? This is the largest buildup since 2003. And so, I mean, the voters have. All the polling says we're desperate for domestic reform and domestic focus. I hope we can do that. We'll be right back in hour two. Don't go anywhere.
Terrence Bates
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is headed to Rome, Georgia right now as early voting is underway and in that state's 14th congressional district. This is the president arriving at Joint Base Andrews just moments ago and boarding Air Force One to head south. A special election to fill the seat vacated by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene is happening in Georgia. Today's trip comes on the heels of the President's morning inaugural meeting of the Trump Board of Peace, which is pushing the cease fire between Israel and Hamas and rebuilding of Gaza. RAV correspondent and host of Breaking Point, David Zier is in Georgia this afternoon waiting for the President's arrival. David, get out. Good afternoon.
David Zier
Good afternoon, Terrence. Yeah. We're here in rome, Georgia, the 14th congressional district, the former seat of Marjorie Taylor Greene. Eighteen candidates lined up to run in a special election right around the corner on March 10th. Trump expected here at about 3 o' clock on the ground at Coosis Steel, a high quality steel manufacturing plant here in Rome, Georgia. A lot of manufacturing down here as well. But early voting has started already in this special election to fill MTG's former seat. And it's going to be a test of the strength of MAGA on Issues, you know, immigration enforcement, other the economy. And Trump received about 70% of the vote here in the past three presidential elections. And this congressional district is plus 19 in the red. But in this special election, there are 18 candidates. The top two will run off on each other if nobody gets the majority on April 7th. And then there's a primary again in May, Terrence, and which will be for the general election on November 3 to continue. Whoever fills that seat here in the 14th district here and Colton Moore, Clay Fuller, Jim Tully, Tom Gray, they seem to be leading the pack. I did an interview with Jim Tully outside here about an hour ago in a straw poll. They received the most votes in a forum last week here. A tremendous amount of candidates here. Trump is expected to endorse. Clay Fuller was a district attorney, I believe, at Lookout Mountain area here. Clay Fuller is also, you know, Jim Tully is also from this area Here in the 14th district, the local businessman as well. But Trump expected to make remarks on the economy, Iran and other here. Busy day on the ground. Big turnout for Donald Trump.
Terrence Bates
Absolutely. One has to imagine that the president is going to address Iran, particularly coming to Georgia on the heels of that inaugural board of Peace meeting there in Washington, D.C. the President addressed Iran there. And so one has to imagine that he'll follow it up with some remarks about that issue as well.
David Zier
He probably will. I was at the White House when he authorized the first bombing of Iran with with Israel on that extraordinary mission going over there. And he didn't let any of his cards to be shown. He walked right past us on the South Lawn on his way to Bedminster. And by the time he came back, the strikes were launched. So, so he's good at playing that, you know, that angle where not showing too much, keeping people guessing here. And the size and scale of these strikes are important, also important to voters. You know, what length should we go a regime change, bombings abroad. And if it's quick and effective and decisive like the Venezuela operation, I think it'll be very successful for him. But definitely expect expected to address it here. And I just wanted to add now, I spent seven years on the road following Trump and nobody was a more fierce campaigner for Donald Trump than MTG down in the south and other parts of the country. She was everywhere for him. She's still beloved in this district down here. And I think that this race, whoever wins this race for the congressional seat may be an indicator where people come down on this issue.
Terrence Bates
David, 22nd, President Trump is going to be at that steel plant there. He of course, has talked a lot about American steel and bringing it back.
David Zier
Well, it's important. And he's brought back about $19 trillion in production and manufacturing commitments nationwide. It's going to be a big year for the United States with the economy on the rebound. And I did man on the street interviews with the people outside here, and the majority of people think the economy is coming back and rebounding and it's getting a little easier for them.
Terrence Bates
All right, David Zier, we appreciate your reporting on the ground there in Georgia as President Trump is en route and will be there in short order. We'll have live coverage here on Real America's Voice throughout the day.
Charlie Kirk
And it's, it's. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Hour two is underway. We are going to keep our eyes on Virginia. Why? Because Virginia is now the, I would say, Democrat playbook. It's the Democrat playbook. We used to talk about the playbook in Colorado, how they turn Colorado blue. Well, they're doing the same thing in Virginia, even though it was only in a D +6 state in the last presidential election. They're going full commie there. And here to help us break down what's happening with the redistricting fight in Virginia is Glenn Sturtevant, Virginia state senator. Welcome to the show, Glenn.
Glenn Sturtevant
Hey, guys. Thanks for having me.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, absolutely. Blake, why don't you break down the stakes here first?
Blake
Of course. Of course. So just to remind people what's going on in Virginia. They ran as affordability focused moderates, and now they've won. They want to redistrict the state from, I believe it's six to five, Democrat, Republican right now. And they want to make it 10 to 1 in a state that is blue, but not by that big of a margin. And so you can, you can look up their, their maps, and it's a bunch of snakes extending out of D.C. because they all need their chunk of Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax county, the big blue area. But Glenn, we wanted to have you on specifically, among other things, we just want people to be aware of how far Democrats are willing to go to pass this sort of thing. The understanding I've been given is it's essentially flagrantly unconstitutional what they are doing, the way they're going about this. They're getting the courts to sign, the Supreme Court to sign off on things that are incredibly suspect, basically for the sake of pure power politics. Can you lay that out for our listeners?
Glenn Sturtevant
Yeah, sure. So five years ago, we had a referendum on the ballot to go to a nonpartisan redistricting commission to take gerrymandering out of the hands of legislators and to create this nonpartisan redistricting commission. And people can debate the pros and cons of that method, but that's what we have had for the past five years in Virginia and is in our Constitution. The Democrats brought us back in in special session right around Halloween of last year and began jamming through this amendment to the amendment which would take gerrymandering back, give it back to the legislature for the drawing of 11 congressional maps in Virginia. As you mentioned, we currently have pretty evenly divided congressional delegation with six Democrats and five Republicans. That lines up pretty well with how Virginia voted in the 2024 presidential election. I think Kamala got 55 and President Trump got 45. So our current congressional maps match up with how Virginia votes in a statewide federal presidential election. They began advancing this constitutional amendment process, though, as I said, around Halloween. But the early voting in Virginia, we have some of the longest early voting of any state in the entire country. We've got 45 days of early voting. Early voting had already begun in our gubernatorial election leading up to this past November. And the Virginia Constitution requires that there be essentially two elections before a constitutional amendment can be sent to the voters as a referendum. And because Democrats had started this process after early voting had already started and a million Virginians had already voted, they didn't have the ability to assess their state House candidates based on where they stood on this amendment. So long story short, Democrats have continued to strong arm that amendment process. We filed a lawsuit and we prevailed in the trial court. The trial judge found that Democrats had violated the Constitution and several provisions of Virginia law and how they went about doing this. And of course, Democrats who are represented by the Mark Elias law firm, they appealed that to the Virginia Supreme Court. And then we just found out last Friday that the Virginia Supreme Court is taking the appeal. So they're going to address the legal arguments, but what they said is that they're not going to hear the case and decide it until after the referendum vote, which is currently scheduled for April 21st.
Blake
I want to pause there, Glenn, and just emphasize that for our listeners that this referendum, a lower court judge has said it is illegal and it should not proceed, but they're going to let it go ahead anyway before ruling on whether it's legal or not. There's this insanity to it. Cuz you just know once let's say it passes, which they they'll do everything in their power to pass it, then the Supreme Court has this excuse, well, we can't roll back this referendum and overturn the will of the voters. And I want to also read the text of the ballot question. This is what their Secretary of State has apparently decided as a fair ballot question to go from 6, 5 to 10 1. This is the text. Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census? Should we pass this law to ensure fairness?
Brendan Carr
Don't you?
Blake
Fairness?
Brendan Carr
Don't you?
Glenn Sturtevant
Well, so that was ballot language that passed the Democrat controlled General assembly and that our new governor, Governor Abigail Spamberger signed. And what is timely about that is we filed a second lawsuit. So once the Virginia Supreme Court said we're going to take up this appeal, but we're not going to decide it until after the referendum happens, which as you mentioned is putting a lot of pressure to just accept the outcome regardless of the legal merits. But a second lawsuit was filed and they are actually in a hearing as we speak in Tazewell County. One of the issues in that new lawsuit is that ballot language and that it's obviously just a total joke and not a reasonable representation of what this constitutional amendment would do. So we will see if the Supreme Court of Virginia hopefully does the right thing if they get another bite at the apple. If we're successful in this trial court again and it goes up on appeal to the Virginia Supreme Court. I think most fair minded people, regardless of where you stand on it, recognize that the judicial branch exists for cases like this. If you have a legislature that is breaking the rules, not playing by the playbook, violating the Constitution and the the role of law. The whole reason we have a Supreme Court is to address issues like that. And when they punt a case like this, it's very concerning.
Charlie Kirk
Glenn, what is the ideological balance of that Supreme Court? Is there any indication?
Glenn Sturtevant
So in Virginia, the legislature, the General assembly appoints all of our judges from the Supreme Court on down. And so I think most people would look at it, not that the judges have any particular ideology, but there are four that have been appointed under Republican legislatures and three that have been appointed under Democrat legislatures. And so it's again concerning just I'm a lawyer myself in my day job in addition to serving in the state Senate and the fact that we have a trial court that said this is unlawful, it should not proceed. The Supreme Court has recognized that it's at least worthy of hearing the appeal, but to not hear it before the referendum doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Brendan Carr
Yeah.
Blake
Well, thank you. And we just wanted to highlight this because this shows this is how far they're willing to go. They're very much stretching the limits, breaking the limits of what their constitution says. Meanwhile, we've seen our Republicans in Indiana with no constitutional barriers just didn't want to do their maps, didn't feel like it made made them feel icky. These are the stakes. And they're doing this along with all the other radical bills they're doing in Virginia. Thank you, Senator Sturtevant. We're going to do our best to support you. If you're in Virginia, make sure you vote in this referendum.
Charlie Kirk
That's right.
Blake
Thank you for coming on again.
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All right.
Charlie Kirk
Elections have consequences. They certainly do. So just to kind of finalize the point on our Virginia discussion where the Virginia Democrats are showing just how far they're willing to go and exercise their power even with just a D plus six. Boeing has announced it's moving its defense HQ from Virginia after Governor Spamberger's election. Okay, so that's a huge loss to the local economy. Top defense contractor announces major move weeks after Dem governor takes office. It's a win for the heartland, it says. The company said it is moving its multi billion dollar investment in the world's most advanced combat aircraft production facilities to St. Louis. So listen, you're going to enact anti business tax regulatory burdens on companies. They're going to move. And that's not the only institution that is thinking about moving. And we just had to cover this story because Charlie loves Chicago. Charlie's from northern suburbs of Chicago in Wheeling, Illinois, grew up a big Bears fan. And it looks like the Bears, the Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears are becoming the Gary Bears. They could be moving. It looks, I mean, I think it's still ongoing. Nothing's been decided yet, but more and more likely that they will be moving to northern Indiana, which is a remarkable turn of events if that was going to happen. It's about an hour and a half drive for some people to get to the.
Blake
It will be a half hour from Soldier Field with no traffic, 27 miles
Charlie Kirk
from soldier Field, which is just a remarkable thing. Let's go ahead and play Mayor Brandon Johnson, the Communist talking about this559. Is my face straight?
Brendan Carr
Okay.
Charlie Kirk
All right, Keep a straight face here.
Brendan Carr
The Bears belong in the city of Chicago.
Charlie Kirk
The Chicago Bears belong in the city of Chicago. Right. And I've said repeatedly that the door
Brendan Carr
is always open for conversations, you know,
Charlie Kirk
and you know, I, you know, Kevin
Brendan Carr
Warren did call me yesterday.
Charlie Kirk
We didn't get a chance to connect, you know, and I still firmly believe
Brendan Carr
that their best position is in Chicago.
Charlie Kirk
And it's evidence, the evidence is clearly speaking for itself.
Blake
We've got old Charlie tweet who he was a big, long Bears fan. You can throw up. You cycle through those, you know, Bears, that's what you get for poor management and terrible coaching. Cutler got what he deserved. What an awful call. Hashtag Bears fantasy advice. Find the team playing the Bears, trade for their defense and start them. He was a long suffering Chicago Bears fan. And so I, of course, am a Packers fan. I'm very torn here because on the one hand I am a Packers fan. So I enjoy seeing the Bears lose. I enjoy seeing them get humiliated a little. But at the same time it feels weird to say, I think the mayor's correct. The Chicago Bears, they should play in Chicago. They should at least play in Illinois. There is something fundamentally messed up when a team is not even in the correct state of who they supposedly represent. There's something way off about that.
Charlie Kirk
I feel the same about, like the San Francisco 49ers. Yes. They're playing in Santa Clara, which is a massive drive. It's so far away from San Francisco, but we still call them the San Francisco 49ers. At least this is the new problem.
Blake
At least the New England Patriots aren't the Boston Patriots anymore. Did you know that their stadium is literally closer to Providence, Rhode Island, a different major city than it is to Boston. It's that far out of the city.
Charlie Kirk
And I think it's, it's an unfortunate thing. Listen, though. But this is what happens when you have an incompetent local government that can't put business first, can't put its own citizens first. They had bought land in Chicago years ago, planning to develop that land and upgrade from Soldier Field. Now, we could have lots of commentary around the fact that, you know, should local governments be supporting their local teams? Should it be this sort of. It's an intermix of private.
Blake
Let's just say it never pays off to spend as much as these cities on what is a private for profit endeavor. In every case, except the Green Bay packers, the. It's a billionaire, a mega billionaire who owns these teams. And their values have gone up massively over time, in large part, local government, huge subsidies. You'll get cities that will spend a billion dollars, two billion dollars to build a stadium that is. Then all the profits go to a private actor. And then in 20 years, they say, oh, it's out of date. We need to blow it up again. Give me another $2 billion or I'm going to move the team to San Antonio.
Charlie Kirk
But this is, this is just the competition that they have to deal with. Mike Braun, governor of Indiana, is saying, come in, come over to Indiana. We want your business. They're passing the House Ways and Means Committee a unanimously passed an amendment bill, Senate Bill 27, creating a framework for Northwest Indiana stad that would enable bonding, land acquisition and financing for a new stadium. So they're rolling out the red carpet for these. Meanwhile, Chicago's like, we want you to stay, but only so much. And we're. And by the way, we sort of resent you because you're rich and we're not gonna roll out the red carpet. The problem is, yeah, you could say that it's gross, these public private partnerships. But there's always somebody willing to take your business and they're willing to roll out the red carpet. So listen, if you want to compete, you got to compete. This is the problem with Democrats in general is they're not willing to think business first.
Blake
Above all, I think above all, it's a sign of how we can't. In cities, you just can't build anything anymore. To build a city it's the endless legal, regulatory, environmental roadblocks. And then if you finally do build it, it takes longer than expected. It costs two or three times more than it should. Every stadium, look them up. Every stadium in inflation adjusted dollars. Something built in 1960 that cost 5 million then and it would cost 50 million today. And then the replacement stadium will seat fewer people and it will cost $3 billion.
Charlie Kirk
Well, so it's not finalized yet. More due diligence negotiations, negotiations and approvals are needed. But it insiders are saying it's close to an inevitability that the Chicago Bears are moving to Indiana.
Blake
Bears. Yeah, just take out the R and you'll get what, how, how this really
Charlie Kirk
is the Gary Bears. The Gary Bears. Look at the Care Bears.
Blake
We have one more sports thing that
Charlie Kirk
we should flag it. But by the way, they say Illinois. It's an inevitability if Illinois does not counter strongly. So balls in your court. You are on offense if you want it.
Blake
Meanwhile, this is a quick 60 second blitz. ESPN is getting rid of America's pastime. This would appall Charlie too. He wasn't as big of a baseball fan as football.
Charlie Kirk
He loved the core basketball.
Blake
He loved the Cubs. And he, he loved America. So he'd love America's game. So ESPN is nixing Sunday night baseball and they are replacing it with women's sports Sundays, which will spotlight matches in the WNBA and the nwsl. I don't know what that is, but I assume it's women's softball. And I refuse to Google it. And I have a better nickname for it, which is ESPN's lowest ratings ever Sunday.
Charlie Kirk
It's just a fascinating turn of events that ESPN would voluntarily put itself in a position to lose money and ratings and viewers. Okay, listen, in fairness, the WNBA has. The ratings have improved, but that is not an excuse to get rid of America's passenger.
Blake
Andrew, would you rather find a dime on the sidewalk or have your local NWSL team win the championship?
Charlie Kirk
I would rather find a dime on the sidewalk.
Blake
The answer is I don't know if we have an NWSL team.
Charlie Kirk
Yes, the right answer. Here's the thing. The ESPN used to be appointment viewing for young men. You would watch it in the mornings Sports Center. You would watch it on the weekends on a rainy Saturday. And now you're just getting like feminism, drivel. And it's unfortunate for all of us. It's unfortunate for the country. We'll be back.
Terrence Bates
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Brendan Carr
Democracy Lives in Light, the Charlie Kirk Show.
Charlie Kirk
All right, if you have been paying attention to this Colbert hoax stuff about the fcc, you're going to want to tune in. We have Brendan Carr from the fcc, chairman of the FCC on in just a second. He's going to explain it all. But first, I'm Going to tell you about our friends over at Patriot Mobile. I love Glenn Story and Jenny Story. The folks that run Patriot Mobile, they are good Americans, great supporters of this show, great supporters of Turning Point. They have set up a company that is the only Christian conservative wireless provider in the country. And they work with all three big major wireless. You're not going to, you get the same everything, the same great service that you come become accustomed to, great signal. They got mobile hotspots, data plans, unlimited data plans, international roaming. They got all the things so you don't have to lose anything when it comes to service. Actually get better service because it's all American customer service, all American folks. But here's the thing. When you spend your money, you have to know where that profit is going. And guess what Patriot Mobile does. They pour it into groups like Turning Point. They poured into shows like this. They support 2A, they support our first responders, they support veterans. This is the company for you. There's no reason not to switch, so just make the switch today. Go to patriot mobile.com charlie patriotmobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot and use promo code charlie for a free month of service. So you keep your service, keep your phone number or get a new one. All you have to do is go to patriot mobile.com charlie patriotmobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot today. Please support those good folks and support companies that support our values. Without further ado, Brendan Carr, chairman of the FCC joins us now. Brendan, this is a. I think if the average person watching at home this has been a very confusing story that they've seen play out. Seems like James Talrico is getting the benefit of it. He's raising all this money off of it. So here's the allegation. I want you to confirm or deny its veracity. The FCC strong armed CBS said you cannot have James Talrico on the air at Colbert. Or else the way they summarize it,
Blake
they basically just like they pull the gun and they're like, you can't have them on.
Charlie Kirk
Exactly. You guys, you guys are the mean bullies saying Colbert can't ham James Tyrico on the air. What is true and what is fiction?
Brendan Carr
Well, look, as soon as I found out that Talarico is beyond, I went down to the bowels of the fcc, the media bureau. I found the dump button. I pushed it. I said, these are MAGA airwaves now. You can't run that. No, the reality is I woke up Tuesday morning and I saw on social media that the FCC had allegedly refused to air an interview. And this has been just so amazing to watch in terms of why everyday Americans have lost so much trust in the legitimacy of the legacy media. So the claim was made by a politician that the FC refused to air an interview, which simply did not happen. And then the claim was, well, it was CBS that refused to air the interview. And then CBS came out and said no, again that didn't happen. All we said was we provided guidance, CBS claims to how they could do the interview on broadcast TV and comply with all appropriate regulations. But instead of you saw Colbert and Telorico do that meme where you take a stick and poke it in your own front spokes of your bicycle fall down and claim that they have been the victims. And the reason this worked is because they knew that the predisposition of the legacy media would be that they would eat this up. And they did. They eat it up like slop. And it ended up boomeranging on them. The real issue here is this is Dem on Dem violence. This is one politician in a Dem primary trying to get a leg up and clicks up and donations up as compared to another Democrat. So this is demo them violence that they're just trying to merchandise as having something to do with Trump or the fcc. And again, it had zero to do with us. I learned about this completely, totally after the fact.
Charlie Kirk
That's amazing. You found out about it on Twitter like so many people. So okay, this is the way I understand it. And again, confirm or deny, this only applies to at this point, at this point in the calendar, cuz we're in primary season Dem versus Dem. So if you, if the equal time rule is basically that James Talrico goes on, well then Colbert has to at least extend an invitation to what's her name? Jasmine Crockett. And that's all that this says. So you just at least have to invite her on equal time. Is that essentially right? You're not alleging the FCC is not telling CBS and CBS is not telling Colbert that they need to go have John Cornyn and Paxton on as equal time. It's just relevant to the Democrat primary.
Brendan Carr
That's essentially right. So if you step back, broadcast tv, broadcast radio is fundamentally different than any other form of distribution of program. It's different than online, it's different than YouTube, it's different than cable. If you have a broadcast license, there's special unique things you have to do because you got the license for free. It's a valuable public resource and the government is Excluding other people. So they're excluding other people, which means it's a public trustee model. You need to look out for the interests of everybody. Okay, that's the baseline. Then there was a particular rule, a statute actually that Congress passed that said if you're going to have a legally qualified candidate on the air, you have to, to your point, extend an offer to all other legally qualified candidates. Doesn't need to be the same program, doesn't need to be the same host. If for some reason Colbert doesn't want to have Crockett on, he doesn't have to do that. It's just at some point they've got to offer a comparable time. That's the baseline. Now there's an exception to that rule. And the exception is if you are what's defined in the statute as a bona fide news program. If you are a bona fide news program, meaning, I guess not fake news, then you don't need to comply with equal time. And the idea there was Congress was thinking about, you know, Meet the Press and other sort of hard hitting journalistic shows where the hosts weren't trying to put a thumb on the scale for one particular candidate or one particular party. Over the years, the FCC issued decision that people read as effectively having the exception swallow the rule, meaning anything that goes on, on broadcast tv, whether it's daytime, nighttime, is itself bona fide news and doesn't have to comply. We've told people is no, that's not the law. Follow the law. If you haven't established your bona fide news, give people equal time. But to your point, Colbert did not have to have anyone else on that program. He could have run it. And all you have to do is put a file, a filing in your public file which broadcasters have that said we allowed airtime for this candidate. If there's another candidate out there, come talk to us and let's see if we can work something out. That's all they would have been required to do.
Charlie Kirk
Well, they are turning it into like World War Three over here that you guys are the biggest, baddest bullies. So let's go ahead. This is what's funny to me too is that you've got, you know, Mr. Potato Man, Brian Stelter chiming in. You've got Jen Psaki and they're all, they're all parroting this hoax. It's amazing. 507. This is Brian Stelterico's tweet on screen.
Brendan Carr
He said the FCC banned our Colbert review and he's wrong about that. The FCC did not ban the interview. And that's what is actually so interesting about this. It's about the impression, the possibility of interference causing the networks to possibly self censor.
Charlie Kirk
And you got Colbert Big Hissy fit.508.
Brendan Carr
You know who is not one of my guests tonight? That's Texas State Representative James Talarico. He was supposed to be here but we were told in no uncertain terms by our network's lawyers who called us directly that we could not have him on the broadcast.
Charlie Kirk
And it looks like Taurico to your point Mr. Chairman, that he's, he's taken advantage of this 515
Brendan Carr
FCC opening probe into the View after appearance by Talarico. Do you mean to cause trouble?
Charlie Kirk
I think that Donald Trump is worried
Brendan Carr
that we're about to flip Texas.
Charlie Kirk
So he's raised millions off that. What you just saw was actually they posted it to YouTube instead. I guess like 6 million people have tuned in. I mean it's boomeranged very well for Tyrico. But you said this is dem on dem violence, Brendan. And the one person that's really upset is Jasmine Crockett.
Blake
MAGA operative.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, MAGA operative. She's actually the one calling BS on all this again. So what is that part that they said, the FCC probe into the View. Can you explain what that was about that allegation?
Brendan Carr
There's a separate episode where the View which sounded like Disney did have Talarico on, on the broadcast airwaves and Disney has not established that that program is a bona fide news program. So we've begun an enforcement proceeding, enforcement actions into the View because if they are not bona fide news again, we don't think they've established that at this point then they would needed to have offered and frankly they could still offer equal opportunity to the other candidates including Jasmine Crockett. But this was, you know, look, this was a. I don't think it was a sophisticated play because you just have to understand the biases of the fake news media in order to run this. But you know, Talarico effectively self Streisand affected this one. So you know, hats off to him. But yeah, if I was Crockett, I'd be mad. If I Crockett came out the day that this happened and said this wasn't FCC censorship, this was Colbert and Talarico deciding not to have her on the program for reasons that you know, you have to ask them.
Charlie Kirk
And this is the key. This is essentially why the rule is important, Brendan, this equal time. Because what you have instead you don't have the voice of the people. You have elites at these networks that have basically put their thumb on the scale and said, we want Talrico. We think he can beat, whether it's Cornyn or Paxton, we think he's the guy to beat them. And we're going to prop this guy
Blake
up very good at these operations.
Charlie Kirk
This is an elite gatekeeping in the old school model.
Brendan Carr
That's the whole point of the rule was that Congress came in and said, we don't want media elites, media gatekeepers, deciding the outcomes of primary or elections. We want the people to do it. We want the people of Texas to make their mind up without unlawful interference from media gatekeepers. The whole reason that the rule was in place.
Blake
Now, big picture, I think that is worth asking. You say that is Congress's intent, but this does date to when there were two, three network television outlets, some radio outlets, and that's what media was. Today we have shows like this one, we have Infinite podcasts, everything on social media. Do you think there's a case to be made this is sort of an obsolete standard that it infringes a little bit on freedom of speech? And there's so many ways to get your message out there. Now what do you make of that?
Brendan Carr
Overall, it's a lot of reasonable people that say there's such a diversity of mechanisms to get your perspectives out there that we don't need those types of regulations. I guess I would say two things. One, it almost cuts the other way because there's so many ways you can get the message out, YouTube, podcasts, streaming, social media, that if you want to use that one medium that has just a unique set of rules that you should do it because it isn't really a constraint on you because you can go somewhere else if you don't want to abide by the broadcast regulations. I guess the second point I'd make is that if people want to do that, then they can go to Congress and they can change the law. But you know, my job at this point is to enforce in a fair and balanced way the laws passed by Congress. And that's, that's what we're going to be doing.
Charlie Kirk
Brendan, thank you for separating fact from fiction in this. I call it the Colbert Hoax because it's a complete. I mean, it's been a ratings boom for him. And by the way, his YouTube is 6 million views or something is what I. What I said. I didn't watch it. But anyways, Brandon Carr, chairman of the fcc, thank you for making the Time and helping us out understand the. The. The Colbert hoax. I'm sure there'll be plenty more in the future.
Brendan Carr
Yeah. Good to see you guys.
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Blake
My best message for them.
Charlie Kirk
Back to the Charlie Kirk show. So we have been pounding these Olympians. Rightfully so. They are. Some of them have just really disgraced the country. But we only thought it was fair to contrast the losers with the winners. And in this case it's actually true. The hockey team just beat, I believe, Sweden last night. I believe. And they're going on. But Blake was telling me that they're
Blake
going to the semi.
Charlie Kirk
Blake is telling me that the Canadian team is stacked and it's going to be.
Blake
We're playing Slovakia. Hopefully we have the advantage over them. But if we win and assuming Canada wins, we face them in the gold medal match and they are being described as the greatest team ever assembled.
Charlie Kirk
I'm curious though, if the. Yeah, we. Geez, Canada beat France 10 to 2. But I mean, who's in France? I mean, like what players they have in.
Blake
Lots of people in France.
Charlie Kirk
No, as far as hockey players, I'm
Blake
sure they have players of some type.
Charlie Kirk
But there's a clip that's going viral. Quinn Hughes. And we wanted to play it because we, you know, in the spirit of equal time that we just had with Brendan Carr from the fcc, we want to give equal time to the people that are actually honoring our country and doing it the right way. So God bless Quinn Hughes. He had some great things to say. 577.
Brendan Carr
Hell of a game out there.
Charlie Kirk
You took down the game winner. I mean, what did that feel like?
Blake
Yeah, just a relief. Just really enjoying being here with this group and the guys and trying to
Charlie Kirk
extend it as long as I can.
Brendan Carr
Right on.
Terrence Bates
And then USA flags all over the place. You could hear the chants.
Brendan Carr
What's that atmosphere like?
Terrence Bates
Yeah, it's special.
Brendan Carr
I mean, you know, I love, love
Blake
the US and it's the greatest country in the world.
Brendan Carr
So happy to represent it here with these guys.
Charlie Kirk
And, you know, it's really special.
Blake
That's awesome.
Charlie Kirk
Greatest country in the world. Happy to represent it here with these guys. It's really special.
Blake
That's awesome. But, man, it is, it is tough where we're just breaking news. US Athlete representing America likes America.
Charlie Kirk
It's not the only one, I think. Here's the thing, and we talked about this. We. There were similar clips that went around at the Australian Open where you get these, these scumbag journalists that go around and they try and get clickbait, they try and get their headline. And so they ask these leading questions. What's it like right now with everything going on in the United States, that meanie President Trump is your president. What's it like? And so they bait these athletes that are not used to thinking deeply about political topics, and then they get their headlines and then that's what happens. And in the case of the Australian Open, the same journalist was going around to all the Americans asking the same question. And most of them answered it well, some of them didn't. And you get the same thing at the Olympics. And so they're suckering these woke tards that are, you know, giving them bad answers. So it's great when we get a Quinn Hughes type answer that we can all celebrate. And I, I would just say we. I mean, there was that one classic clip from the last. I think it was the last Summer Olympics. It was that. That black guy that we played a couple, she was just like, oh, my gosh, I love America. I love America.
Blake
Over what this is. It says to me, it says much more about the press than anything because that is what our press wants to do. That's what they want to feed. They want to make everything. They want to make everything about politics. They want to kind of stoke these things. And as part of. They've pointed out that that Eileen Gu, who is from America but represents China because she makes a ton of money doing it. And you can watch her clips. And she basically has a different personality when she is appearing in Chinese media, adopts a totally different demeanor. It is totally APOLITICAL it is totally just very sweet and pleasant and kind of feminine. And then if she's appearing in US stuff, she's like, oh, well, now I'm in America, have to maximize my brand. I'm going to shout out women's reproductive rights and promote these left wing causes. Of course, it's all a sham. I don't think she genuinely believes any of these things. I think she just wants to be rich and make money. And in America, in the Bay Area, you do that by mouthing left wing platitudes. And in China, you do that by being strictly apolitical and saying nothing about the government at all. And you definitely, you don't rock the boat. And so that's what we have in China, that's what we have in America.
Charlie Kirk
She's picked her team. Now it's, it's important to do a update on the metal count here. So. Oh, we do have that clip. That was. Okay, I, I brought it up. Let's play it. 579 to represent your country like this. It feels amazing. I love representing the US I freaking love living there. I love it and I'm so happy I get to represent usa.
Blake
It is a great clip. That is a very immortal one.
Charlie Kirk
That's from the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. All right, so the medal count. Now we are getting killed by Norway.
Terrence Bates
No.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, well, Norway, I don't know what their deal is. It's a very cold place. So they have lots of medals. 34 medals for Norway, 26 for Italy. But we've closed Gap. We are 25. United States has 25 medals. France has 19 again. France. I just, I don't know what it is about France, but I look at France every time and I'm like, I just, you know, I don't buy it. Like, I just, I think my favorite
Blake
is Brazil has a gold medal. And it's a Norwegian person who just moved to Brazil and decided to play for their Olympic team for some reason. And so they have a gold medal in Olympic skiing.
Charlie Kirk
All right, the last thing I want to talk about here is the Board of Peace. It convened. It almost is like Trump is establishing a supranational organization outside of the UN on purpose to just snub the un. And so we've got some clips here of President Trump doing this Board of peace with Javier Milei, Turkey, Kazakhstan. I mean, it's kind of a coalition of the willing, I would put it that way. Do we have 580 loaded yet? 580, please. And finally, to the American people.
Brendan Carr
I think it's important that the American
Charlie Kirk
people recognize why we're here today. And the reason that we're here today is, yes, to save lives and yes, to promote peace. But this creates incredible prosperity for the American people. The countries represented here represent trillions of dollars of investment in the United States of America.
Brendan Carr
That would not have been possible without
Charlie Kirk
this president's leadership and advocacy for peace. The economies here represent millions of American jobs, of people who are receiving products built in American factories and made by American workers would not be possible without a focus on peace. So, Mr. President, while I think this is great for the world, I also think it's really, really great for the United States of America. So we're looking forward to the partnership. So President Trump is the chairman. The executive board, which focuses on diplomacy and investments, is Marco Rubio, Secretary of State Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, Tony Blair, the former UK Prime Minister Mark Rowan, CEO of the Apollo Global Management, Ajay Banga, the World Bank President, Robert Gabriel Jr. U.S. deputy National Security Advisor, and Nikolay Mladenov, a high representative for Gaza, former UN Envoy. And there's a number of countries, like I said, there was 40 folks there on stage with president. Again, it seems like a move where President Trump has been largely snubbed by the international organizations. He's building his own. And I find the timing of it to be somewhat ironic with the Iranian strike potentially imminent right now.
Blake
Well, the name is clearly the biggest thing he did. And he campaigned for the Nobel Peace Prize last year. It was kind of an unprecedented thing, but a very Trumpian thing. Imagine leaders competing to see who can end the most wars.
Charlie Kirk
I mean, it's fun thing to see that. By the way, he has a great track record ending wars. So let's hope, let's pray for peace. That's the final word I'll say to you today. Pray for peace in Iran. Let's focus on our country. I think that's what we all want. But sometimes you have to trust the leaders you elected. And so. So that's our position. We'll see you tomorrow. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Host: Charlie Kirk (with Blake, Brendan Carr, guests Glenn Sturtevant, Alan Bakari)
Main Theme: Political power struggles, media censorship narratives, Prince Andrew’s arrest, social media regulation, election manipulation, sports & culture, Trump’s international strategy.
On this episode, Charlie Kirk and co-hosts dissect urgent news stories and political flashpoints through a conservative and populist lens. Themes include: major media controversies (Colbert/Talarico–FCC drama), political machinations in redistricting (Virginia), international headlines (Prince Andrew’s arrest), regulatory battles over big tech and social media, election updates, and cultural commentary, culminating with analysis of Trump’s new “Board of Peace” initiative and foreign policy posture toward Iran.
[00:24 – 02:50]
[02:50 – 05:24; revisited at 70:45; in depth at 72:52]
[05:28 – 13:46, 15:14 – 22:22]
[26:23 – 35:16]
[37:25 – 44:19]
[49:43 – 58:26]
[59:39 – 67:05]
[84:10 – 88:24]
[89:04 – 91:29]
| Topic | Start | End | Notes | |----------------------------------------|-----------|-----------|----------------------------------------| | Trump’s Board of Peace | 00:24 | 02:50 | Frame of U.S. global leadership | | Colbert/Talarico FCC Controversy | 02:50 | 05:24 | | revisit: 70:45, 72:52 | | Prince Andrew’s Arrest | 05:28 | 13:46 | Media, politics & Epstein connections | | Social Media Regulation & Sean Parker | 26:23 | 35:16 | Bakari, addictive design, regulations | | Iran Decision Looms | 37:25 | 44:19 | Trump’s foreign policy debates | | Virginia Redistricting Fight | 49:43 | 58:26 | Senator Sturtevant, power grabs | | Bears’ Move & Sports Business | 59:39 | 67:05 | Public policy & pro sports | | Olympians & Patriotism | 84:10 | 88:24 | Win vs. 'woke' athletes, media bias | | Trump: Board of Peace and Iran | 89:04 | 91:29 | Alt-UN, diplomacy, Nobel ambitions |
The episode is lively and combative, marked by sharp, colloquial banter and ideological clarity. The hosts frame most developments through a populist-conservative lens, skeptical of establishment actors (whether media, government, or corporate). Guest authorities appear to clarify technical or legal issues, while cultural and international stories are woven in for a “big picture” narrative.
This episode offers a sweeping, critical-populist examination of news—fact-checking viral claims (Colbert/FCC), warning of power grabs (Virginia, social media), and promoting vigilance in both international and domestic affairs. Listeners gain an alternate take on stories shaping the 2026 political landscape, guided by the show’s ethos: “truth,” tradition, and American sovereignty.