The Charlie Kirk Show, February 23, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show – Real America’s Voice

Air Date: February 23, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk, with Andrew Torba, Steve Dace, Oscar Ramirez, Dennis Prager
Podcast: Real America’s Voice

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show offers a wide-ranging discussion on major news and cultural topics of February 2026 within a distinctly pro-American, conservative frame. The hosts address the violent aftermath of the death of Mexican cartel leader “El Mencho,” the current state of the U.S.-Mexico border, law enforcement and sanctuary cities, U.S. Olympic hockey victories, political culture wars, the condition of young men in America, generational divides, and an in-depth philosophical conversation with Dennis Prager. The episode is colored by reflections on the legacy of Charlie Kirk after his assassination, with many heartfelt moments honoring him and his mentor, Dennis Prager.

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KEY SEGMENTS & DISCUSSION POINTS

1. Border Security, “Angel Families,” and Mexico’s Cartel Violence

• Main Theme: The ongoing crisis at the southern border and the violent fallout in Mexico following the death of El Mencho, leader of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel.
• Timestamps: [03:26]–[08:05], [24:08]–[29:27], [58:46]–[73:17]
• Key Points:
  • Commemoration of "National Angel Family Day" in honor of victims killed by illegal immigrants (such as Laken Riley).
  • Critique of former sanctuary city policies, highlighting stories where repeat offenders released by law enforcement commit additional murders.
    • "If you enter our country illegally, there will be consequences. Under this administration, American citizens must always come first." – Charlie Kirk [05:17]
  • Analysis (with border correspondent Oscar Ramirez) of Mexico’s chaos after El Mencho’s targeted killing—a U.S./Mexico operation. Detailed look at cartel power, cartel-driven violence overtaking tourist areas, and the cross-border security threat:
    • Cartel Jalisco New Generation now ranked as the most violent and powerful cartel.
    • Burning vehicles as intimidation tactics at the border, intended to send a message directly to U.S. authorities.
    • Critique of Mexican President Sheinbaum’s reaction, accused of downplaying chaos for political purposes:
      • "She needs to pander to her audience to say, we are not letting the gringo come and invade... but we are collaborating..." – Oscar Ramirez [69:06]
    • Discussion of U.S. policy: calls for drone strikes on cartel military hardware, comparison to U.S. wars fought abroad versus more urgent needs at home.
      • "It's just going to get. Totally agree, period. We're trying to play nice. Mexico wants to help us. That's great. But if they don't want to help us, we're going to do it anyway..." – Charlie Kirk [78:02]

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2. Olympic Glory & American Patriotism

• Main Theme: Celebration of a major U.S. men’s hockey victory over Canada at the Olympics.
• Timestamps: [10:01]–[17:27]
• Key Points:
  • The win is likened to the "Miracle on Ice," with strong undercurrents of patriotism and anti-"woke" cultural sentiment.
    • "This is all about our country right now. I love the USA. I love my teammates. It's unbelievable." – Jack Hughes (quoted by Charlie Kirk) [11:50]
  • Celebration of team and family legacies: Hughes family wins three gold medals; emotional moment as the late Johnny Goudreau's children are honored.
    • "They honored the widow, they honored the children. It was a beautiful, beautiful, touching moment." – Andrew Torba [15:27]
  • Pushback against critics over FBI Director Cash Patel celebrating with the team in the locker room, arguing for human, joyful, patriotic reactions even from officials.

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3. Generational Anguish, Young Men, and Political Disenfranchisement

• Main Theme: The crisis facing young men—hopelessness, nihilism, political frustration, and the cultural gap between generations.
• Timestamps: [34:56]–[55:06], [48:04]–[55:06]
• Steve Dace’s Perspective:
  • Explains why some young men are drawn to “dark corners” (e.g., Nick Fuentes, conspiratorial ideologies): failing institutions, lack of masculine leadership, outsized immigration, inability to attain adulthood markers (jobs, marriage, home ownership).
    • "They feel like they live in a nation that has betrayed them ... let in the third world at their own expense and given them all kinds of privileges and advantages at their expense." – Andrew Torba [42:42]
  • Importance of older generations modeling positive adulthood and purpose, lest nihilism and “assassination culture” (politically-inspired violence rhetoric) spread:
    • "We have a real, real crisis here … We skipped a generation of masculine leadership and modeling … the repercussions for that are here." – Steve Dace [48:56]
  • A case study: analysis and concern over the Mar-a-Lago attack by a young man radicalized by online conspiracy theories.
    • "This idea that for the very first time, it is very possible none of what we know as America or the American Dream will be there for them at all. ... We have a real, real crisis here." – Steve Dace [48:56]

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4. Foreign Policy: Iran, Israel, and Middle East Buildup

• Main Theme: Skepticism about the rationale and transparency of U.S. military involvement abroad, especially with Iran.
• Timestamps: [34:56]–[42:42]
• Key Points:
  • Questions about the U.S. gearing up for possible major action against Iran after previous assurances its nuclear program was set back.
  • Critique of elite leaders failing to communicate purpose and strategy, which breeds cynicism and susceptibility to radical ideologies in disconnected youth.
    • "Why is it we’re fighting harder on the borders of Iran right now than we are in Minneapolis?" – Steve Dace [36:01]
  • Praise for Trump's approach to the Middle East, especially building pragmatic alliances that bypass the failed “Palestinian question” model.

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5. Cultural Politics: Gavin Newsom, Racial Pandering, and “Making America California”

• Main Theme: Critique of Democratic political and rhetorical strategies, especially around race and 2028 presidential prospects.
• Timestamps: [78:34]–[84:01]
• Key Points:
  • Mockery of Gavin Newsom's attempt to "relate" to black voters via self-deprecating stories about low SAT scores—called out as the “bigotry of low expectations.”
    • "Gavin Newsom's trying to buddy up to the black community by saying I'm dumb too... This is the bigotry of low expectations in living color." – Andrew Torba [79:42]
  • Discussion of the “white liberal code-switching” phenomenon found in research.
  • Newsom as the “slick, synthetic” face of potential Democratic dominance, representing a future where national policy is modeled after California:
    • "The Democrat plan in 2028 is to run on Making America California. And it's, it's, it's going to be very shameful if we can't beat that." – Charlie Kirk [83:53]

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6. Dennis Prager Conversation: Faith, Morality, and the Legacy of Charlie Kirk

• Main Theme: Deep exploration of the grounding of moral values in religion, Dennis Prager’s influence on Charlie Kirk, and the battle against “moral inversion.”
• Timestamps: [88:27]–[110:51]
• Key Points:
  • Prager reflects on his personal paralysis and the struggle with suffering—using reason and faith, not emotion, as guides.
  • Central topic from Prager’s book: if God does not exist, the basis for objective good and evil dissolves.
    • "Humans are created in God's image is a value. That's why I would save a stranger before my beloved dogs ... Emotions aren’t values." – Dennis Prager [95:04]
    • "If man determines what is good and evil, then you can have moral inversions where the Nazis are good guys..." – Dennis Prager [99:49]
  • Emotional stories of mutual influence and mentorship between Prager and Kirk, including their discussions on the Sabbath and Prager’s book dedications.
    • "Charlie wrote a beautiful dedication. Charlie called me, I would say, almost every week for at least five or eight years, and ... the whole idea of Shabbat came from our interactions." – Dennis Prager [91:31]
  • Erica Kirk’s testimonial about Prager and Charlie’s bond:
    • "Reading 'If There Is No God' feels like sitting at the table with both of them again. ... Without God, there can be no good, and without truth, there can be no freedom." – Erica Kirk, read by Andrew Torba [92:05]

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On Sanctuary Cities & Angel Families:
  "Stories like Lincoln’s are one more reason why my administration will do everything in our power to end the scourge of sanctuary cities once and for all. They protect criminals."
  — Charlie Kirk [05:51]

• On U.S. Olympic Victory:
  "I love the USA. I love my teammates. It’s unbelievable."
  — Jack Hughes via Charlie Kirk [11:50]

• On Political Nihilism:
  "We skipped a generation of masculine leadership and modeling in the home, in the pulpit, and in too much of our body politic ... the repercussions for that are here."
  — Steve Dace [48:56]

• On Mexico Cartels Post-El Mencho:
  "The cartel Jalisco New Generation now ranked as the most violent and powerful cartel… burning vehicles and businesses… a huge national security threat."
  — Oscar Ramirez [68:03]

• On Leadership and Racial Politics:
  "Gavin Newsom is just the living embodiment of what incompetent leadership looks like ... The Democrat plan in 2028 is to run on Making America California."
  — Charlie Kirk [83:53]

• On Faith and Morality:
  "If man determines what is good and evil, then you can have moral inversions..."
  — Dennis Prager [99:49]

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ADDITIONAL STRUCTURED TIMESTAMPS

• [03:26]–[08:05]: Border security, Angel Families, Laken Riley Act, sanctuary cities.
• [10:01]–[17:27]: U.S. Olympic hockey win, patriotism v. “woke” culture, honoring lost athletes.
• [24:08]–[29:27]: Mexico cartel violence after El Mencho’s death, coordination with U.S., ongoing security threats.
• [34:56]–[55:06]: Young men’s disaffection, generational angst, Mar-a-Lago attacker, leadership vacuum.
• [58:46]–[73:17], [65:00]–[73:17]: On-the-ground border reporting from Oscar Ramirez, cartel violence, Mexican politics.
• [78:34]–[84:01]: Mockery of Newsom and Democratic racial pandering, critiques of California model.
• [88:27]–[110:51]: In-depth conversation with Dennis Prager—faith, good and evil, the role of God, honoring Charlie Kirk’s legacy.

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CONCLUDING THEMES

• Strong advocacy for American sovereignty and firm border security policies.
• Heavy criticism of sanctuary cities, left-wing approaches to race, and the “woke” cultural shift.
• Deep worry about the moral, spiritual, and social crisis facing young American men.
• Sober assessment of real threats posed by Mexican cartels, contrasted with unnecessary military adventures abroad.
• Emotive tributes to Charlie Kirk’s legacy and the mentorship of Dennis Prager, anchoring the show in faith and enduring conservative values.
• Repeated calls to model moral courage, faith, and proactive citizenship to resist nihilism and radicalization among youth.

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This summary delivers the key narrative arcs, discussion highlights, emotional moments, and quote attributions from the episode, giving listeners a clear, structured picture of the topics covered and their significance.

Transcript

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February 22nd is going to be National Angel Family Day on February 22nd. Two years ago, a brilliant 22 year old nursing student named Lakin Hope Riley went out for a run on a college campus in Georgia. Lakin was viciously attacked, brutally beaten and murdered by an illegal alien gang member who the last administration heartlessly released into our country. No problems. Let them in. They let in everybody. They didn't check anybody. They let in everybody. Among the first bills I signed into law after taking office last year was the Lincoln Riley Act.

[Andrew Torba]

So proud of it.

[Charlie Kirk]

To ensure illegal alien criminals are rapidly removed from the United States of America. That's okay with the media. That bill has already been really playing a big role in the life of our country. Resulted in over 21,000 illegal alien arrests.

[Andrew Torba]

21,000.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mr. President, it's an honor to be here today. It's an honor to be speaking with you guys. My name is Ethan Carreri. I'm a police officer in Palm Beach County, Florida and a former New York City police officer. While serving the New York City Police

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[Charlie Kirk]

A few months later, I saw his face again in the news. After he viciously murdered Lake and Riley. I did my job. I put him in custody.

[Andrew Torba]

The system failed.

[Charlie Kirk]

No detainer, no accountability. No deportation. And an innocent American life was taken. If you enter our country illegally, there will be consequences. Under this administration, the American citizens must always come first. To Lake and Riley's family, your law should have never happened. We owe it to you and every American family to enforce our laws, secure our border and protect innocent lives. Mr. President, thank you so much for having me here today and thank you

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for all you've done for our country.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you. Thank you very much. Stories like Lincoln's are one more reason why my administration will do everything in our power to end the scourge of sanctuary cities once and for all. They protect criminals.

[Steve Dace]

Why do people fight?

[Charlie Kirk]

They protect criminals with a vengeance. They, they fight for these criminals like murderers protecting murders. They fight for them so hard. I can't. There's something wrong with them.

[Dennis Prager]

Do I think the criminal cartels are going to go away without our involvement? Absolutely not.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know.

[Dennis Prager]

Mexico has failed decades ago.

[Charlie Kirk]

And like I say, a lot of Mexico's corrupt, military's corrupt, much of the

[Dennis Prager]

Mexican law enforcement's corrupt, much of the Mexican government's corruption. And many of them don't want to be corrupt.

[Charlie Kirk]

But you take the payoff and do

[Andrew Torba]

what we tell you to, will kill

[Charlie Kirk]

you and your family, and they will.

[Dennis Prager]

So, you know, I think if we were to wipe the cartels off the

[Charlie Kirk]

face of the earth, Mexico would be

[Andrew Torba]

such a better country.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think President Trump did exactly the right thing designating terrorists.

[Dennis Prager]

I think he's doing the right thing

[Charlie Kirk]

offering Mexico his assistance and taking them out. We are going to start now hitting land with regard to the cartels. The cartels are running Mexico. It's very, very sad to watch and see what's happened to that country. But the cartels are running and they're killing 250, 300,000 people in our country every single year. The drugs, it's horrible. It's devastated families. You know, you lose a child or apparent. Can you explain this alliance between the

[Andrew Torba]

president, her party, the Morena party and the cartels?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, the party has, finance has given. The cartels have given so much money to the, to these politicians, narco politicians of Morena to get into office to get power. So they protect the Mexican government, protects the cartels.

[Dennis Prager]

That is why President Scheinbaum doesn't want

[Charlie Kirk]

the strong American leadership to help Mexico defeat the cartels.

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[Andrew Torba]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What a weekend it is, Charlie. So hype. I know he would be. It's February 23, 2026 here at the Bitcoin.com studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Apparently there's a blizzard going on on the east coast. Not here in Phoenix, but we'll find out. State of Union is tomorrow and I'm planning on traveling there if the flights allow. If not, you'll see me here tomorrow. But what a weekend for American sports. An Olympic we were debating whether or not the men's team winning US goal gold for the US against Canada was a top 10American sports moment. And I think it is.

[Charlie Kirk]

I kind of feel like it has to be. It's, it's not as big as the Miracle on Ice for a few reasons, but it comes close and it, it sort of captures the spirit of it. You think? I saw a good take. That was in 1980. We defeated Soviet communism and this time we defeated basically the 2026 version of Soviet communism, which is basically hyper gay, hyper wokeism Canadian. That's what Canada's gone all in on being.

[Andrew Torba]

I would venture to guess that Canadian wokeism is as large an existential threat, if not bigger, to our way of life and to the survival of Western civilization as Soviet communism.

[Charlie Kirk]

Survival quite literally, given their love of assisted suicide.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes, Euthanasia. The euthanasia country. But it was a beautiful moment. I would just. Let's just go through some of these clips because we. A new star has been born. Jack Hughes. And this was the clip that when I was busy with family yesterday, so I was only like half checked in. And this clip came across the wire immediately. And I was just filled with patriotism at Jack Hughes and the way he handled this moment. 235.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is all about our country right now. I love the usa. I love my teammates. It's unbelievable.

[Steve Dace]

The USA hockey brotherhood is so strong

[Charlie Kirk]

and we have so much support from ex players. I'm so proud to be American today.

[Andrew Torba]

So proud to be American today. He said, you know, that's a great Canadian team over there, but this is American hockey. We did this for the country. And it was just like we've seen so many bad clips and bad interviews from this Olympics from woke athletes, skaters that can't win gold and that fall. Sorry. Rooting against you was happy you fell. Sorry, just how I feel. But then we saw so many good stories, right? Like Alyssa Liu, who may. May be a liberal, maybe woke, but she didn't disrespect us on the national stage. And for that we salute her and she won gold. And then you get this moment. It was just. And by the way, we had more medals, more gold medals than we'd had since 2002. I think the Salt Lake City game, we had the most medals we'd ever had.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think before we move on to anything else, we should actually get the moment itself, which is they.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Score the golden goal. Which is so just context for those who didn't watch the game. It was very tight the whole game. It was one to one, I would say actually. Clearly Canada is the stronger team. They had more shots, way more shots on goal. We had some really great ones. There was a Canadian player misses a wide open shot at, I don't know, five feet away, if that. There was another one where it would have gone in and just freak deflected off the goalie's stick.

[Andrew Torba]

The goalie went to rye is why we.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the goalie was amazing. And then I'm told this is the clip. This is in Overtime, Sudden death. That's one of the best things about hockey. Pure sudden death. When you get into the finale and I'm told it's only 244. It's only the. Or 243, but we only have it as B roll, unfortunately.

[Andrew Torba]

That's fine.

[Charlie Kirk]

Throw it up, throw it up.

[Andrew Torba]

We'll. We'll narrate.

[Charlie Kirk]

And he's taking it down. They have it three on three in overtime. That flex it over to Jack Hughes

[Andrew Torba]

back in the net.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's great. I really love the. The Canadian announcer. He's very crestfallen.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, of course. Well, you know what's great, though, is that Jack Hughes had actually got a high stick penalty against him. Loses a couple teeth, so he's all bloody. His mouth's just. And then he goes on to score the winning goal. And his brother's on the team. Another little known fact here, his mom was actually coach for the women's team that also won gold.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Andrew Torba]

So the Hughes family won three gold medals from this Olympics, which is just phenomenal.

[Charlie Kirk]

Several family affairs, because I think we also had the Tkachuk brothers, Matthew and Brady. I think they were on the team as well. So we have some great clips. In fact, speaking of him getting his teeth mangled, Jack Hughes had that to say after the game. 239. I'm lucky I'm from the best country

[Steve Dace]

in the world and we got great dentists there, too. So I'm lucky I'm American and they're

[Charlie Kirk]

going to fix me right up.

[Andrew Torba]

It's just so good. Anyways, so this was just one of the proudest moments. And then I want to address. Because it's just so annoying. Well, actually, one other good note here first. So one of the players, Johnny Goudreau, was killed in a drunk driving accident in 2024. And they welcomed his kids out for the group picture. And I'm just. I'm gonna be really honest. I got emotional watching this because they honored the widow, they honored the children. And my heart was instantly thinking about Erica and Charlie and their kids. And it was a beautiful. I think we have an image of this, if you guys can throw it up there. It was just beautiful.

[Charlie Kirk]

When that happened, it actually kind of became a mainstream news story. I think J.D. vance said something about it at the time. It was during the election season.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Super popular player. They called him Mr. Hockey. I think they.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, Mr. Hockey.

[Charlie Kirk]

Johnny Hockey, huge ambassador for the game. And then just he and his brother killed by a drunk Driver, which never

[Andrew Torba]

should have happened, but they honored his kids. They brought him out for the picture. It was actually his son Johnny Jr's birthday. It was the 298th birthday of George Washington. And it's obviously America, 250. So there was just. I mean, we were going to win, guys. There was no chance. That's how I look at it. But honestly, just a beautiful, beautiful, touching moment. And then onto the annoying part. So Cash Patel, and, I don't know, Blake might feel differently than this. I understand. I understand both sides here, but Cash Patel is over there, apparently on other official business, doing opsec. He's got meetings, is planned well in advance, according to his team, but he's a hockey player and he's a huge hockey fan. They invite him down into the locker room afterwards, and he's. I mean, he's living it up. It's like the best moment. And by the way, we were all Cash Patel in that moment. I. I was feeling complete joy and pride for our nation. And so Cash is back there, he's drinking a beer. And here's my thing. So people left, the left especially, is outraged at this. Some people on the right are outraged about it. They don't think he's doing enough good. Well, listen, like, the crime rate and the murder rate is at the lowest it's been. There are wins on the board. I get it. You want more. We all want more. But Cash in this moment was just like one of us. He was just an American celebrating an amazing, amazing victory. And here's my take. Those guys invited him to be with them. They loved it. Look at them. They're all jumping up and down. They called him down. And if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for me. And I have no problem with it. Let them celebrate the way they want to celebrate.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's weird for an FBI director to be doing that.

[Andrew Torba]

I agree. But guess what? It's weird that President Trump sends out truths the way he does. It's weird a lot of things are abnormal. It's weird that Gavin Newsom is trying to relate to black people by saying he has a low SAT score.

[Charlie Kirk]

All I would say is there's a lot of weird if James Comey

[Oscar Ramirez]

when

[Charlie Kirk]

he was FBI director or any. If Merrick Garland had been at an Olympic game in 2022 and was jumping around like that.

[Andrew Torba]

I disagree. Hard pass. Hard. Hard. Disagree. James Comey is not a hockey player. Cash Patel is a hockey player. Big, huge hockey fan. He was there. He FaceTimed the President. They got invited to the State of the Union. It was a beautiful moment, I think. Listen to all the haters out there. It must be a miserable existence, like constantly being upset all the time. This is a beautiful win. Beautiful for the country. Let them celebrate. The guys loved it. They're patriots. They handled themselves well. Made the nation proud. All right, it is that time again. It is Monday, so and it's we're about to do tell you about Strong Cell, which means it is that time. Strong Cell, one of Charlie's favorites. It delivers nadh and it's a proprietary delivery mechanism that gets it through your stomach into your. Into your system. Used to have to go get an IV for it. No longer. No longer is that in case this is the power for all of your cells. The mitochondria. Tastes great, Blake. There it is. Two ounces once a day. Try it for four to six weeks. You are going to notice a massive, massive improvement. You can now get it completely risk free. 90 day money back guarantee. Go to strongcell.com use promo code charlie at checkout to save 20%. Promo code charlie to save [e-mail] fatigue, brain fog. It'll go right away.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Steve Dace]

All right, welcome back.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Charlie Kirk]

327 the moment you put on the Team USA jersey. It is about duty, responsibility, obligation to

[Andrew Torba]

the nation and victory. And he goes on to talk about one clip that the audio syncing was kind of off so we didn't play it. But he was saying this is peaceful geopolitical combat. That's why you have USA on your jersey. And I love that. It's a really great way to frame everything that's going on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Although I really, I want to, I wish we had him to get his take on. Like the Eileen Gu thing for an example. Peaceful geopolitical combat between countries. All of whose athletes just grew up in the United States.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate because she's very talented and grew up skiing in Tahoe and she took the money $20 million for Eileen Goo every year. All right, There is more international news that we have to get to. And then we're going to bring in Steve Dase next segment. Lots to get to with him as well. Specifically this issue that happened at Mar a Lago, which is really troubling. Another potential assassination attempt. And we want to get into that with Steve Dase, what's underlying that. But first we have to tell you about Mexico. And we've got Oscar Ramirez, real America's Voice correspondent, border correspondent, coming on in the top of the next hour to talk about it more. But basically all hell broke loose in Mexico, at least. And we'll find out what the current situation is from Oscar Ramirez. But here's the deal. They killed a massive kingpin. And of all the cartels, his name is El Mencho. But of all the cartels, it was the Cartel Jalisco New Generation or Nuevo Generacion or whatever. So the CJ Ng cartel, which is,

[Charlie Kirk]

I feel like there's a new cartel.

[Andrew Torba]

This cartel has existed with basic impunity in Mexico for years. And I thought this was really important because this morning President Trump is, you know, honoring the angel families. He's bringing up the mother of. He's bringing up the mother of Lake and Riley, who was killed by, at the hands of an illegal immigrant. And here, meanwhile, we've got this whole fight going on in Washington where they're trying to defund dhs, which is the agency that keeps us safe. That which under, you know, ICE is under. Listen, you could make an argument that DHS shouldn't have been consolidated into one agency.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just they're trying to defund the organization that is on the front line of making it so a US City does not look like Puerto Vallarta. Yes, they are trying to defund the agency that keeps every one of those cartel members, which, if you watch those clips, they have assault weapons, they have armored vehicles, they have heavy explosives. That is what happens when you have a full blown cartel narco state operating with impunity. And that is not. There's nothing about destiny that keeps America from being like that. We are not like that because we have different people, different laws, different values. And if you change the situation, if we are just Mexico, we'll have the same thing.

[Andrew Torba]

Borders are where bad ideas, bad policy, bad governance end. And good ideas, good governance and good, good policy begins. If we have the courage of our own sovereignty, if we have the courage of our own convictions, and we are proud to be Americans and say our ideas are better, our foundation is Better. I'm not saying Mexicans are bad people. Some, I suppose, are good people, as President Trump once said. But the point is, our country and our civilization is more successful for a reason. And we cannot allow those cartel factions and forces to cross over the border and infect our country. And which they did under President Joe Biden, There are currently cartel members existing in all 50 states. This isn't just like a border region thing. This is all across the country. And I have a theory on this, why we saw this. Now, El Mencha was taken out by the. The Mexican military, but it was done in coordination with US Intelligence. So we were providing intel about where this guy was. It was also very interesting that he died in transit. So they. There was a shootout and him along with two others. So three of them died in transit. I think they made a very. I think they made a conscious decision to make sure that he was not able to exist alive, because then he would have been a target for an assault on the prison he was at. I think they killed him in there. That's what I think. Or at least fused to resuscitate him. But whatever. That's speculation. I also think that they chose to do this after a year of President Trump's deportation efforts, getting some of these bad hombres out, because you got to get these cartel factions that exist within the United States at least cowed. You have to put them on the defense.

[Oscar Ramirez]

Right.

[Andrew Torba]

And so this is what's interesting. President Trump's policies are making their life a living hell. Let's go to 258. This was from September 2025. CNN interviewed one of them and asked them this.

[Oscar Ramirez]

258 Think what President Trump has been

[Steve Dace]

doing has been making your job tougher?

[Dennis Prager]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes.

[Steve Dace]

But it's becoming more difficult, you think?

[Dennis Prager]

Yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

And President Trump is on record stating the case very plainly.254 we are going

[Charlie Kirk]

to start now hitting land with regard to the cartels. The cartels are running Mexico. It's very, very sad to watch and see what's happened to that country. But the cartels are running, and they're killing 250, 300,000 people in our country every single year. The drugs, it's horrible. It's devastated families. You know, you lose a child or a parent. I mean, parents are dying, too, with drugs.

[Andrew Torba]

So cartel Jalisco New generation was famous for a couple of things. Still are. They have armored vehicles. They have rocket launchers. I mean, this is a complete paramilitary organization. And they just decided, hey, you're going to kill our leader. We're going to make your life a living hell all over the country. They're famous for fentanyl, running cocaine. They're also famous for things like fraud with timeshares. So actually the Treasury Department just sanctioned a Mexican timeshare company that was part, part of which was run by this cartel. They're famous for ripping off senior citizens that are vacationing there, American senior citizens. And then of course, smuggling of humans. So this is a really nasty cartel that was a essentially they lifted up this El Mencho as their preeminent leader. Right. It was a cult of personality. So for them to lose this guy would be extraordinarily destabilizing. So that's my theory. My theory is that the Mexican government that President Trump has been putting the screws to the Mexican government to get them to act, they finally did it after a year with our help and involvement. So we'll see how this develops again. We're going to cover this more an hour or two, so stay tuned. Steve Dace joins us next.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice NEWS break. I'm Terrence Bates. The death of the leader of Mexico's Jalisco New Generation Cartel at the hands of the Mexican military has set off a deadly and brutal rampage from cartel members. The group is said to be Mexico's most powerful drug cartel. Cartel members are blamed for burning cars, blocking roads in more than 20 Mexican states, even storming at least one airport, setting a plane ablaze there. At last check, at least 25 Mexican National Guard members were killed in the operation. El Mencho, as the deceased cartel leader is known, was a top target of the Mexican and US Governments because he was one of the top fentanyl traffickers into the United States. Last year, President Trump made the Jalisco New Generation Cartel a foreign terrorist organization. The White House says it provided intelligence support to the Mexican government to help find El Mencho. And as President Trump continues to secure the border and crack down on illegal immigration, earlier this morning he hosted Angel Families at the White House. Those are American families who have lost loved ones to criminals who were in the United States illegally.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you, sir, for putting America first and putting these angel families first and letting everybody know their stories because we matter. Thank you, sir. My brother, Rocky Jones was murdered by a criminal legal alien.

[Andrew Torba]

He was simply at the wrong place

[Charlie Kirk]

at the wrong time.

[Andrew Torba]

This man was arrested, released and within

[Charlie Kirk]

24 hours he went on a shooting spree in central California. Unfortunately, my brother was in the wrong place at the wrong time. This man shot my brother eight times at point blank range. I pray that no other family has to go through that. Unfortunately, they will.

[Terrence Bates]

Today's event was meant to recognize 22 year old Georgia nursing student Laken Riley, who of course was brutally murdered by a Venezuelan illegal alien, which she was while she was out for a jog. The president also signed a proclamation designating Angel Family Day. A man is dead after the Secret Service says he drove into a secure perimeter at Mar a Lago early Sunday morning. The Secret Service says the 21 year old had a gas can as well as a shotgun on him with when he was shot and killed. Investigators say the suspect is from North Carolina. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

The next great awakening is here.

[Andrew Torba]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show.

[Steve Dace]

All right.

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[Steve Dace]

Good to see you too. How are you doing?

[Andrew Torba]

All doing great. So, Steve, you had this great tweet and you were talking. I mean, we can put it up on screen if you want. It's a little bit long. 3:13. So I just want to pull some threads from here. You're saying you're a child of the 80s, you detest Iran, you cheer. You know, if you woke up, if we woke up this morning and Mossad took them out, basically, however, we were told that they were taken care of, that this was already done. And now we're gearing up for another invasion here. It looks like could be more kinetic activity and you start to. I felt like you were channeling your inner Charlie where you're saying, we don't. We hate the brain rot of antisemitism. But like, for a moment, put yourself in their shoes and try and understand where they're coming from. Try and make sense of this, their counter theories and this all of the. I thought you put it beautifully. So please check out this tweet from Steve. He put it much more eloquently than I have just now. But break it down. Your big idea here, Steve, and why you're trying, why you felt it was important that you put this out.

[Steve Dace]

Well, I mean, some of this is exactly what Charlie and I texted each Other last June, the night that we bombed Iran the first time. And generationally, I'm going to be way more jingoistic about let's make Iran, the Iranian regime, assume room temperature. But I also understand the tension. I have a son in law that's enlisted right now. He was told by his unit two years ago that if Joe Biden won, they were all just going to go over to Syria for two years for reasons. And so I'm very sensitive. I mean, that was basically it. For reasons, you know. And so I'm sensitive to this in that what is the point of what we are doing here? And have we explained it? And hey, listen, I was the guy on the main stage that y' all put up against the gripers, all right? So, I mean, I think everybody knows where I stand on that entire debate. But I talked to a lot of those young men, Andrew and Blake, after that, after that talk. And a lot of them, frankly, are just driven to the likes of Fuentes on a couple of impulses. Number one, they don't want to be another generation of wimpy dudes. They don't want to grow up and be Mike Pence with a perpetual furrowed brow and wearing sweater vests in July and Hawaiian shirts in January. They don't want to be that guy. That's part of it, you know, and we skipped kind of a generation of masculine modeling and leadership. So they're kind of searching and somebody like Fuentes kind of steps into that void and gives them an aberrant, I would say, demonic inversion of that. But the other is they have a lot of questions that I think we as the older generation have to answer. Questions like, why is it harder than ever to find a wife? Why is it harder than ever when you have one, to find a house and to buy one? We have the highest median age homebuyer in American history right now, 41 years old. All right, why is. Why, you know, am I losing jobs in universities even if I want to go become a gay race communist or in the workplace to over 20 million foreigners that were imported over the last four years under Joe Biden? And I just think when we tell everybody last June that we obliterated Iran's nuclear capability, and then we're being told a mere eight months later that, nope, it's back, and now it requires the largest asset deployment of our military since the invasion of Iraq, I just think we need to step back and understand some of the reasons why our young men are contemplating going into some of the dark recesses of the abyss that they are, because we have lacked answers and substantive answers to some of these dilemmas. Why is it we're fighting harder for. We're fighting harder on the borders of Iran right now than we are in Minneapolis. And I think that's a valid question. And if the older generation, such as myself and the boomers that are ahead of me, if we don't have good answers, then at that point it doesn't matter how many algorithms ban the likes of Afuentes, people, young men are gonna go searching for people like that as sources that might come up with aberrant alternative theories like the tail wags the dog. And it's really the Jews and the Israelis that are really in control of the world. Well, when, when we don't offer them any prevailing theory of any common sense, don't be surprised when they go looking for alternatives.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, especially with, with this Iran buildup. It's as you say, we hurt. We saw the strike last summer, we were told it was effective. And I really feel the buildup with Iran right now, it's almost happened on the back page of the papers, if anyone even reads papers anymore. I don't feel there's been much discussion of it. You compare with the Iraq war 20 years ago, which I do remember, there was a very long buildup to it. Whatever, it was a big mistake. But there was a very strong and aggressive case made for the war on several grounds. Similarly, we had a pretty strong motive for going into Afghanistan. I do feel like a lot of Americans, if we were to suddenly be doing a regime change, large scale war with Iran tomorrow, one, I think a lot of people who are paying less attention would just be shocked that it's happening in the first place because they would not have noticed the buildup. And they would struggle to articulate why are we doing this now, there were, there was the uprising there, but that at this point was almost a couple of months ago. And then there was the nuclear stuff. But it seems like if there was a rational reason to do it, it would have happened last summer. And it's going to be difficult, I think, for, if this happens, for the administration to sell it. And I hope they've practiced what they would say.

[Steve Dace]

I don't disagree with any of that. And I think the key for the Trump administration, what Trump understood, because of the years he's done business dealings in that part of the world, what he understood is that Muslim and Arab are not necessarily the same thing. And for decades, going back to as long as you two guys have been alive, the so called Palestinian question was the vexing conundrum of Middle east peace. And administrations post Reagan, from Bush to Obama to Clinton, all were attempting how much land should we give up much autonomy to give the PLO and the Palestinians on and on and on. And what Trump recognized is there's a lot of leaders in places like Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Egypt that actually could care less about the so called Palestinian question. They're no great fans of Israel, but they're not necessarily fans of forever and perpetual war either. And they'd like to start lining some of their pockets and be wealthy, too. And I think he set that tone in Riyadh with one of the greatest foreign policy speeches I've seen in my lifetime, maybe the greatest foreign policy speech I've seen by a president post 9 11. And I think that set the tone for his success and why at the end of his first administration, we were beginning to see normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia. For example, right now, there's over 2,000 Jews working full time in Saudi Arabia that have been unheard of a decade ago. And you can put a lot of that on the success of this administration. And Iran is a seamless garment here. The Saudis hate Iran for different reasons, but every bit as much as the Israelis do. And so there's a common foe and a common enemy here. And yet, despite that, here's the thing that I think is the most troubling to me. Who reigns in place of the ayatollahs, right? Listen, I don't, I would, I want these guys to accept, to assume room temperature post haste, right? But we're talking about a nation now of tens of millions of people, has its own, has two different standing armies, okay? It has the Revolutionary Guard that's loyal to the ayatollahs, its own national army, who so far has not stepped in and defended their protesters. So we don't know if there's an Al Sisi kind of a figure within that military. We don't even have. You know, again, I'm a little older than you guys, who's the Boris Yeltsin, kind of half drunk, but at least somewhat stable, you know, resistance figure. We don't have that, let alone a full statesman like Alek Walesa, maybe this Reza Pavlovi, who's been living the lap of luxury his entire life in exile, Maybe there's the common Iranian that was getting gunned down in the streets, would just love to have that aristocracy back. I don't pretend to know. But Blake These questions are some of the things that I think you have to answer for the American people. What's the plan of succession here?

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, well, and Steve, I love, love this tweet and wanted to talk about it with you because it again, I just felt completely Charlie esque. And one thing that we have the privilege of doing it at turning point in our work on campus is we get to meet a lot of these young people, we bring them on the show. And I think, you know, if you could sum up Charlie's kind of the Charlie Doctrine, if you will. It was, you know, why are we nation building abroad? We need to be nation building here at home. We have all these kids. To your point about all this immigration, you know, I was just traveling this weekend with my family. I couldn't get over how many foreigners were around, mostly Hispanics. But there was other nations. I mean, it was like half and half. It was like half Americans, half foreigners. And you extrapolate that to the workplace. You extrapolate that to where they learn. You extrapolate that when they go get a ID at the dmv, you extrapolate that across the board. And they feel like they live in a nation that has betrayed them, that has basically led in the third world at their own expense and given them all kinds of kickbacks, all kinds of privileges and advantages at their expense. And then they look at the news and we're about to bomb Iran again. And I think there is this cognitive dissonance that starts to sort of creep in. And as you point out in your tweet, they start looking for other explanations. They don't care what the Constitution says. When they're looking at that kind of a formula, they don't. They stop caring about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and the beauty of our founding documents and our founding creeds. They don't care. They're just looking at their life and saying, I can't do it. Like my parents did it because of these structural issues. Now, you could be of a Gen X or a boomer generation and say that they're just a bunch of whiners. I'm telling you, a lot of these kids are amazing. They're hard workers. They're in a different generation, would have been considered great patriots. Structurally, though, there are issues in front of them that we have to acknowledge, we have to be honest about. So I loved your tweet and I want to get into this in the next segment, Steve. But then you've got this Austin Tucker Metcalf kid that went into Mar a Lago with a gas can and a shotgun and gets himself killed because he's getting, he's, you know, on some Reddit channels or something on the Epstein files. And so we gotta make sense of this. We have to make sense of what's happening to our young people in this crazy media landscape that they're all kind of trying to exist in. Listen, these, these breaks sometimes. Don't cooperate with me. We've got 15 seconds. So we have to do a, do a live read, but the floor is going to be all yours, Steve, when we get back from break, I promise. Because I really want to hear what you have to say about what happened at Mar A Lago. Really quick, guys, tell you about Balance of Nature. If you are not pumped when you look at the ingredient list, you are not paying attention. You're not maha Balance of Nature products. It's nothing but fruit, veggies, nothing else. No additives, dyes, preservatives, nothing but the original fruits and veggies. Health has to be everything to you. If you're going to live in a fast paced lifestyle, which a lot of us are doing, you need to stay in the best shape possible. That's why we are sold on Balance of Nature's Whole Health System Supplements. Balance of Nature's Whole Health System Supplements includes 47 ingredients of 100% whole fruits, veggies, spices and fibers. This is a central product that we trust here on this show and you can too. So you can lock in 50% off for one year when you subscribe to the Whole Health System Supplements as a preferred customer. Go to balanceofnature.com do it now. You'll be so glad you did. That's balanceofnature.com again. You can lock in 50 off for one year when you subscribe to the Whole Health System Supplements as a preferred customer. More with Steve Dace when we are back in just a few minutes.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, More with Steve Dase here. So Steve, throw up 329. This is apparently this Austin Tucker Metcalfe kid and TMZ got this tweet of his or his text message exchange. He said, I don't know if you've read up on the Epstein files, but evil is real and unmistakable. The best people like you and I can do is use what little influence we have, tell other people about what you hear about the Epstein files and what the government is doing about it, raise awareness. So this is a guy that apparently is like traditionally been a conservative. He's been proud about his Christian identity or his Christian faith. And then he goes into Mar A Lago, seemingly to set fire to it, shoot somebody, maybe assassinate the President. Thinking back to our conversation in the last segment, how do you what are you thinking about this story, Steve?

[Steve Dace]

I think first of all it's brilliant to connect these two stories. And listen, as I get older, I'm getting that age. I have to hire my oldest daughter to run some of my social media because I'm at the age now where I just don't want to learn any new. I'm good. I'm good. You know, and we all hit that age, right? And so next stop, Gran Torino. Okay. And sour looks. Okay. And you know, and I think the benefit that I have is I'm launching a 19 year old son into manhood right now. All right. Just graduated high school, right. Has two job interviews today. He's got some, some real talent when it comes to to writing and content Creation. But even when your old man's got connections, those are some of the toughest businesses to break. So, you know, he's got to start at the bottom. You know, like Mr. Miyagi says, send the flow kind of stuff, you know? And so that has been helpful to me to hold off some of my. Y' all are just lazy and soft, because I know what home he was raised in, and being lazy and soft was not permitted in my home. So I. So that helps me to not immediately devolve to that sort of old man yells at cloud default setting. Because I now hear the other side of the conversation. I hear what him and his peer group. A lot of these are kids from, you know, good home, Christian home to Christian school, homeschooled. Right? And even they are feeling this tension, let alone the young men that maybe didn't have a good dad or any dad at all in the home to model anything to them at all. This idea that for the very first time, it is very possible none of what we know as America or the American Dream will be there for them at all. And then at the same token, what occupies their time? I mean, we had law of the jungle when I was growing up. There were just certain things you could not say to another young man for fear that your parents could not afford the orthodontist appointment. Okay. I mean, if you play football growing up as I did, you know what an Oklahoma drill was. And that's where things came correct real quick about the stuff you were maybe running your mouth about in school. Well, now on these devices, I jump on Snapchat, I jump on a Reddit forum, and I just say a gamer forum. And I just say things I'd never say to somebody else's face because there's no instant recourse. And so the level of venom and toxicity is way higher at the exact same time. And so where does all that masculine energy go? We have a real, real crisis here. You know, to quote Barack Obama's former pastor, america's chickens are to rooster. We skipped a generation of masculine leadership and modeling in the home, in the pulpit, and in too much of our body politic and cultural institutions. And so now the repercussions for that are here. And this is why I said, you know, when I eulogized Charlie and Amfest, that for the. For the mission, for his mission to reach the young men, to be confirmed and successful is going to be determined now by the older men, the boomer men in their third act, the Gen X men like me entering your Third act, how you finish your race, how you model on the back end what Charlie was urging these young men to do on the front end. Because we should be the ones now that are living the best portion of our lives, living the blessing of getting married, having children, staying with our wives, making something of ourselves. We need to model that finish and finish well. Otherwise I fear what's going to happen collectively to this generation of young men. For sure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And on top of that, this is another version, another manifestation of what we actually saw in Minneapolis where the Alex Pretty is the Renee Goods, the people who are getting whipped up by that line that this is a, you know, a fascist takeover. That there is that we're on the brink of a Nazi dictatorship and mentally imbalanced people are pushed over the edge by that sort of rhetoric. And that's also what we're seeing with this Mar a Lago gunman that he's getting told, oh, there's a pedophile cabal running America. And there are people running with that narrative who know that it is a severe exaggeration, who know that it is not the real, that's not reality. But they also know it will whip up people like that to go too far. Especially because at the same time we have a real case of burgeoning, call it assassination culture in America where people are just overtly in favor of talking about murdering politicians, murdering leaders. We have clips like this. In fact, let's play one of them. This is 338. I don't think it would, it would take that many of them having something

[Andrew Torba]

happen before maybe they started to fall in line is all I'm saying. You know, just like three, maybe publicly. Yeah, but this, by the way, that's one of like a dozen clips that our team has pulled. And the comments are all like, yeah, you're not dreaming big enough. We need to kill more. And what's interesting about this, and Steve, we got about two minutes left here, is that this has been coming from the left to the right. I mean, this is why we make such a big deal about this, cuz it killed our friend. But this kid seems to fit in a different sort of paradigm here, so.

[Steve Dace]

Well, just like we saw, there was a pattern as I was coming of age politically where postmodernism infested the left and then like a swarm of locusts, once it had corrupted that entire crop and consumed it, it then started seeping into some of the right as well. We're now seeing this with nihilism. All right, so nihilism in and of itself is a fundamentally demonic ideology.

[Andrew Torba]

Right.

[Steve Dace]

But again, I mean, most demonic ideologies behave in the marketplace of ideas like locusts. And locusts are never satiated. They just consume until the crop is gone and then just find the new crop. And that's kind of how this works out ideologically. And so we're now starting to see some of this black pilling kind of nihilism emerge within our side too, particularly amongst a cachet of our young men. And the thing that we have to always remember about Marxist ideologies is everything they do, say and think everything, is to accomplish two goals, more power and more control. And so, as Blake is pointing out, if cynically winking and nodding to some of these nihilistic elements, you know, it's okay to how many eggs do you crack in order to make an omelet kind of a thing? It's just collateral damage. If it gives them the power and control they want, they'll go with it. And the only thing that they won't be for is what won't give them the power and control that they want.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, I think that's well said, Steve. I really hope, and I think this is one of Charlie's enduring legacies. I hope it endures, which is that if you see the polling, a lot of this nihilism seemed to be on the left. The assassination culture, this mangionism was coming from the left. And meanwhile, young men on the right wanted to get married, they wanted to have families, they wanted to have a good job. I mean, we saw that NBC poll just before we lost Charlie. And so I just hope that what you're wa, you know, you're sounding the alarm here. Charlie sounded the alarm about this nihilism creeping into the right. We have to fight it. We have to present an alternative. We have to present a faith based alternative. I believe as well. And I think you're. I think your message is well made, Steve, that Gen X boomers, older millennials, we have to present that alternative version of events, of reality that they, you know, and by the way, we have to, we have to make sure they can buy homes. I mean, we have to be nation building here at home. I hope that message gets through. Steve Dase, thank you so much, my friend. It's always a pleasure having you. We'll see you again soon. All right, see you in hour two with Oscar Ramirez. We'll be right back.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Terrence Bates]

Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice. News break thanks for being here with us. The death of the leader of Mexico's Jalisco New Generation cartel at the hands of Mexican military has set off a deadly and brutal rampage from cartel members. The group is said to be Mexico's most powerful drug cartel and cartel members are blamed for burning cars, blocking roads in more than 20 Mexican states and storming at least one airport, setting a plane there on blaze at last check. At least 25 Mexican National Guard members were killed in the operation. The deceased cartel leader known as El Mencho was a top target of the Mexican and US governments because he was one of the top fentanyl traffickers into the U.S. as RAV correspondent Oscar Ramirez reports, the U.S. provided intelligence support to the Mexican government to help find El

[Oscar Ramirez]

Mencho where Nemesio Oseguera El Mencho, the guy that was gunned down, had a lot of power and a lot of presence. This escalated into the north cities and the north borders that connect to the United States of America. One of them it is the city that I am located in, in Tijuana, where more than 20 incidents have been, you know, noticeable. And that. Incidents? What do I mean by incidents? Burning, not also of automobiles, but also at businesses, pharmacies, and these kind of oxos that they are, you know, they can resemble as a 7 11. Yesterday, I reported on the ground of four vehicles that they were burned. One of them was concerning. They burned, you know, a pickup truck in front of the border wall that is just steps away from the United States authority. I also said this is a national security issue. Why? Because these cartel members, they burned this vehicle in front of the border wall. But they have cameras of the United States government. So they want to let the United States government know that they're actually doing this on the purpose to destabilize, unstabilize the security of the citizens of Mexico and to send a great message to the United States authorities that they still have presence on these communities, in these neighborhoods. Under the Biden administration, the cartel grew two times bigger, two times stronger, on territory, on land, financially, and in technology. And we're seeing the result of that because of the negligence of the Biden administration. Who would ever thought in Tijuana that the cartel Jalisco New generation had this enormous presence? You know, a lot of these studies and the intelligence of the intelligence department of Mexico, they thought that the Sinaloa cartel was the one that was in charge of the state of Baja California. But now we know that is completely the contrast and the opposite. And this is because of the negligence of the Biden administration that provided this cartel to have this enormous power. You can see it actually on their technology and their weaponry. And they have a lot of presence inside of the United States of America. This is a national security issue on both sides of the aisle inside of the United States of America. They need to start securing their borders and being on the lookout for drone attacks and possibly, you know, some kind of a. Not an attack, but an approach from the organized crime in the cartel to near the border. It is a national security issue. Also, at the end of the day for Mexico, they need to provide security for Mexican citizens and for American tourists that they're located on the other side.

[Terrence Bates]

We'll have much more on the developing situation in Mexico throughout the day here on Real America's Voice. In the meantime, the weather here in the northeast of the United States turning out to be a big story as well this week. New York, New York, all the way north to Massachusetts, dealing with blizzard conditions. This is video out of New York. Look at this. Let's take this full screen, guys, if we can. The National Weather Service projecting up to 2ft of snow in some areas. More than 500,000 customers are dealing with power outages. That number, by the way, includes more than 212,000 people in Massachusetts and 128,000 in New Jersey. Look at this snow that continues to fall. Weather Nation meteorologist Patrick Crawford has the very latest.

[Charlie Kirk]

Weather Nation meteorologist Patrick Crawford here tracking the nor' easter impacting the northeastern United States. A look from earlier on Monday. Some of the thundersnow that was happening out in New York City. And then we get out into Deptford, New Jersey, tracking that intense snow. Look at how high that snow was when it came to the accumulation on some of those vehicles. We've seen feet of accumulation that we've been tracking across these areas. Those numbers, they have been huge. And then on top of the heavy snow, there's been so much wind. That's a nor'. Easter. That is the setup that we've been dealing with. So we have widespread power outages that have been happening all along the Atlantic seaboard. Blizzard warnings continuing all the way into this afternoon and evening from the coast of Maine all the way down into southern Delaware. You can see that forecast showing the snow lingering all the way through this Monday. And as that low continues to push east, all the impacts will start to diminish. That's the very latest from here at Weather Nation.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Steve Dace]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined by Oscar Ramirez. He's a real America's Voice border correspondent. With everything that happened over the weekend with El Mencho, we wanted to have on the ground reporting. So, Oscar, welcome to the show. Tell us where are you or if you can, tell us roundabouts where you are and where is some of the worst violence happening and is it still happening?

[Oscar Ramirez]

Well, after the assassination and the execution of Nemesio Oseguera El Mencho, the violence started escalating in the parts in the tourist areas, in the part of Puerto Vallarta and escalated to the parts that they have enormous control, that is Michoacan in the parts of Guerrero and also in Jalisco. But this perplexing, it just caused a domino effect. And it started happening in the north borders, in cities like Tijuana that we are located watching. You know, they started doing narco blockades, burning cars, burning businesses to send a message to the government and to tell them that we have presence on these particular neighborhoods or tourist areas and that we are going to terrorize the citizens and to let them know that they are critically hurt because the head of the snake was completely eliminated at this particular moment. And they started doing this in the part of Tijuana, you know, burning cars, burning businesses. Until now. Yesterday we were reporting on the ground more than 22 incidents happen. What it means incidents between vehicles and also businesses. They were burned. Sending a message strongly to the government of Mexico to tell them we have a lot of presence on these particular states in the whole country and the whole territory. Now, a thing that is extremely important. Just today, breaking news. The head of the military and the head of the Department of Defense in Mexico just made out a statement and an interview said that this was a clear collaboration with the United States of America in regards to the United States providing the intelligence to do the execution by the federal government of Nemesio Oseguera El Mencho. The violence right now, it was increasing last night. And here in the city of Tijuana that is connected to San Diego, there was still burning of vehicles continuously in several areas. But until now schools have been off limits. Now they closed the schools. They closed the educational systems of elementary, junior high schools, high schools and college colleges. Businesses are closed for security reasons of the citizens. There has been multiple threats on social media groups by, you know, these, you know, particularly pages that they are in cahoots with the organized crime, telling the population that they're going to start shooting civilians after 10 o' clock at night. Is they still walking? It is a huge national security threat. I, you know, I did a video on a report on a vehicle that it was burned just steps away from the border, from the border wall. This tells you the level of audacity of the cartel. And they burned that vehicle in front of a post on the territory, in the American territory. This post that it has a huge camera from the US Customs that basically tells you that they did it on purpose just to tell the American government, we know that you provided the information for our leader to be executed. So at this moment, the federal government has released statements that they will provide the security that it needs to be provided for tourists and also deployment of more military to the whole content, to the whole country of Mexico.

[Andrew Torba]

I have a bunch of questions here as far as where the CJ GN cartel, the cartel Jalisco, New Generation, where does it rank in terms of the most violent, most powerful cartels in Mexico?

[Oscar Ramirez]

That is the number one right now. And the Mexico Seguera El Mencho was one of the most violent ones and atrocious ones that clearly he sent a message to the population, into the world of decapitations, dismembering bodies. And he's the one that is basically pointing out to the multiple hundreds of thousands of mass graves that they have been found in our country of Mexico. Missing people, extraction of organs, you know, and all these atrocious acts towards women in the country.

[Andrew Torba]

Okay, go ahead.

[Charlie Kirk]

So Oscar, I think that's really baffling me. So 25 members of the National Guard killed. Obvious mayhem throughout the country. I'm reading the LA Times this morning. Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum insists country is at peace and remains calm after what's going on. What's her attitude towards all of this? It seems like she strikes a very strange tone with her remarks. And I guess the follow up is what's next? Is this a spasm of violence or is this going to turn into a wider. I don't know what else to say besides war.

[Oscar Ramirez]

Well, the Mexican people that we have common sense and there's millions of us, we know who perpetrated and who did this mission and who initiated this mission. And it was the American intelligence. If it wasn't for the Trump administration, this, that just happened would have been done. And all of this that has been happening in the country of Mexico, the dismantling laboratories, the extraction of criminal leaders and leaders of cartels have been extracted to the United States of America. You know, the execution of El Mencho, so all of this wouldn't be happening. Now, the Mexican president, she has an agenda and it's a leftist socialist agenda. And she needs to pander to her audience to say, we are not letting the gringo, we're not letting the white man to come and invade and intervene in our country, but we are collaborating so and so, and quote, unquote, we are collaborating with the American government for them to provide information and for us to execute. That is how she's maneuvering this. And of course, she's saying that this, all this mission was executed by the federal government, but now she's obligated to say that the American government are providing the information. This is history, guys. Nobody in history in the United States of America has had the more extraction of information that the Trump administration has right now. And why do I say that? They have El Chapo Guzman, they have El Mayo Sabada, they have Nicolas Maduro, all the extraction of information of how Mexico works and how corrupt, all these dirty politicians, that they're located in the Senate and Congress in Mexico. So the Trump administration basically knows the ins and outs of the government and they need to bend the knee when the Trump administration says, we're going in, as we're going in.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. So my question is, Oscar, is, does this signal a change of policy in Mexico? Is this a turning point? Or is Claudia Sheinbaum doing this kicking and screaming and this is kind of going to be a one and done. What's your prediction?

[Oscar Ramirez]

Well, the Mexican people are going to demand more now if they had the capacity to execute. Why you're not going through several states and controlling these things that they're violently and critically controlled by the organized crime in the cartel. So basically what the pressure of the American government it is doing right now to Mexico is for the Mexican people to demand more from the Mexican government, for them to execute this mission. If you were precise and if you, you know, we lost some good ones, we lost some military men on this mission. But if you went over there and you executed the mission, why you're not doing that on every state. So it's going to have an effect on the senators, on the opposition, on the conservatives, on the Christians, on the Christian, you know, senators and Christian, you know, congressmen that they are in our country to demand more from the opposition.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. So Oscar, that's my question. Because the cartel is so interwoven with just basic businesses and the hotels and there's this, it's hard to draw a line between official government business and cartels. Right. And will the people demand this? Will the, you know, is there popular support for more action against the cartels? And will, is there enough will within the official government structure of Mexico?

[Oscar Ramirez]

Absolutely, absolutely. And it is happening right now. And also what the Trump administration has done is that they have given the courage to senators on the opposition and on the right of Mexico to go and basically on Congress and on the Senate and expose the left wing political party and say you're corrupt, you're involved with the organized crime in the cartel. You know, one of the things that got viciously exposed is how this criminal organization had so much control over states and how they have the audacity to terrorize the citizens and they're still doing it until this point. So it's basically exposing the, you know, the weaknesses of our government and the Mexican people know that right now at this moment.

[Andrew Torba]

So last 20 seconds here, Oscar. Do you predict more violence in the days and weeks to come?

[Oscar Ramirez]

I will not recommend American citizens to travel right now to several spots and several tourist spots. You know, it is, it's kind of agitated and let this sink in for the next couple of days over the federal government to have more control over really rural and difficult and tough neighborhoods. I believe that it's going to escalate a little bit. Inner wars are going to happen and let's see who takes charge of this criminal organization. That that is going to be the next step of how they're going to fight among each other for territory.

[Andrew Torba]

Oscar Ramirez, Rabs border correspondent in Mexico right now. Thank you so much, Oscar. Appreciate it. We'll have you back on as this story develops. Thank you so much.

[Oscar Ramirez]

Thank you so much for the invitation, guys.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

I just want to close the book on the. On the cartel thing. What was so insane is just the visual of literal cartel members. They're standing, they're wearing uniforms with their armored cars. They have armored cars, armored vehicles, rocket launcher, heavy. Heavy machinery, heavy weaponry. And all I can think is this is a country that borders the United States and we've had 30 years plus of lots of adventures in the Middle east where we're often chasing people armed up just like that. But they're on at least the other side of the planet. They can't send rocket launchers super easily to the United States. But you know who can? The cartels. And we see with them launching this, this, for lack of a better term, this insurgency where they're taking over huge chunks of central Mexico in demonstration of their leader being killed, killing dozens of Mexican national guard. It just, it actually strikes me as insane that we've had so many wars on the other side of the planet and yet we haven't just said, okay, actually we're going to drone strike anyone. Like every armored vehicle that belongs to a cartel.

[Oscar Ramirez]

Blow it up.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just going to get.

[Andrew Torba]

Totally agree, period. We're trying to play nice.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mexico wants to help us. That's great. But if they don't want to help us, we're going to do it anyway because it's not acceptable for there to be a totally agree gangster actor in a neighboring country that has armored personnel carriers.

[Andrew Torba]

Totally agree. All right. Well, said needed to be said, so. And Charlie, by the way, totally agreed with that. It's like if we're going to use military force, that's the one place we should.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Andrew Torba]

All right, here we. I got to play a couple clips for you. 339

[Charlie Kirk]

young black kids growing up in

[Steve Dace]

the Bronx who don't even know what the word computer is.

[Charlie Kirk]

They don't know. They don't know these things.

[Andrew Torba]

346.

[Steve Dace]

And the other thing we should do

[Charlie Kirk]

is we should challenge these students. We should challenge students in these schools

[Steve Dace]

to have advanced placement programs in these schools.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talent as white kids.

[Andrew Torba]

And 250. The new one.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960sat guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. You know, trying to act all there if you got 940. But literally a 960 SAT guy. I cannot. You. You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech.

[Andrew Torba]

All right, so Gavin Newsom's trying to buddy up to the black community by saying I'm dumb, too. I can't. I can't read. This is. Okay, this man's gonna run for president in 2028. And I want them to run this. This moment on repeat, on the ad. This is the bigotry of low expectations in Living Color. I've never seen such a clear example of that, other than the two other clips that I played before.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, there's so many more. I remember Hillary Clinton, when she was running for president, she did an appearance in New York and then she showed up late. No, it's the one. She showed up and she said she was on cpt, and then they said it was cautious politician time. But that's obviously. It's like. It's very wild. And all I can think of is this is a real study from 2019. Do you know about this? The Yale study? Yale did a study of how, like, the vocabulary that white liberals use. And what they found is, yeah, white liberals, when they're talking to black people, they will actually deliberately down code switch their vocabulary. They will basically act like they're talking

[Andrew Torba]

to children and they'll get an accent.

[Charlie Kirk]

And they noticed that white conservatives did not do this. They just did not change.

[Andrew Torba]

Nope. Because we expect the same out of everybody. It is literally the most racist comment in the. And then you add on top of all of this that they don't think black people are smart enough to get id. It is quite literally the most racist crap that you will ever hear coming out of the mouths of Democrats and they're pandering to them to win their votes by telling them they're dumb. And yet most of them will still vote for Democrats. And that's the baffling part of all of this. Here's Charlie reflecting on his time with Gavin Newsom. Remember, Charlie went on Gavin Newsom's podcast, was the first guest, made lots of news. 353.

[Steve Dace]

He is, he is the fakest person

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[Steve Dace]

That.

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That is very, very dangerous. You know, just stone cold. Just like, no, no inhibitions whatsoever when it comes to deceit or lying or misleading.

[Andrew Torba]

So, Blake, you and I were with Charlie when he went to that podcast, when he interviewed or when he went on Gavin Newsom's podcast. And I'll never forget, but we were driving away and I go, what was your impression? He goes, man, that guy wants to be president.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep, he always has. It's really glaring and it's really disturbing because I've gotta say, as much as we make fun of him here, as much as we made fun of him in other times, and he deserves it, I don't think you can escape that feeling like it could happen. This is the dark future of America is 100% that Gavin Newsom could run, be slick enough, have the right look, say the right things, and everyone will just sort of get behind it. It's like he's the politician utterly without qualities. He hasn't been a great governor of his state by any objective measure. It's been a catastrophe. He has big. He has big headline disasters like burning down a big chunk of Los Angeles. And then he has the data driven disasters. Businesses leave, people leave. His state is entirely dependent on endless immigration inflow to complete from foreign countries to not completely implode. And, and they're having, you know, they're driving out every billionaire because they have this wealth confiscation.

[Andrew Torba]

Fair. Newsom says he's going to be that, but.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, but they can't. Well, that was. I think it's a vote amendment. I don't think he can block it if they.

[Andrew Torba]

He's promised to veto it.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see what he does. But on top, and on top of that, they have every other problem in the world.

[Andrew Torba]

And so, yeah, it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

But he could win.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, it's interesting. I got asked to write a piece and I forgot to tweet it out actually, but I got asked to write a piece for the California Post, which is like the New York Post but for the West Coast. It was about Charlie, what he thought about California. And Charlie loved California, loved how beautiful it was. But he would always, when you land, there he goes, man, what a beautiful state. It's a shame what they've done to it every time. That was his first, first thought, his first comment. And you know, Gavin Newsom is just the living embodiment of what incompetent leadership looks like.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Democrat plan in 2028 is to run on Making America California. And it's, it's, it's going to be very shameful if we can't beat that.

[Andrew Torba]

Pitch Dennis Prager on his new book. You are not going to want to miss this. Dennis Prager Next.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you, sir, for putting America first and putting these angel families first and letting everybody know their stories because we matter. Thank you, sir. My brother, Rocky Jones, was murdered by a criminal legal alien.

[Andrew Torba]

He was simply at the wrong place

[Charlie Kirk]

at the wrong time.

[Andrew Torba]

This man was arrested, released, and within

[Charlie Kirk]

24 hours, he went on a shooting spree in central California. Unfortunately, my brother was in the wrong place at the wrong time. This man shot my brother eight times at point blank range. I pray that no other family has to go through that. Unfortunately, they will.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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All right, welcome back, everybody.

[Andrew Torba]

I am so excited, excited for our next guest. He's a man that needs no introduction to this audience, but I will say it anyway. Dennis Prager is one of the most respected and influential thinkers, writers and speakers in America. He's a nationally syndicated talk show host. He is the founder of Prager University and is a New York Times bestselling author of nine books. And he's a man who's been through a lot. But most importantly to this audience, as you all know, he was a dear friend and mentor to Charlie Kirk and Dennis. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is an indescribable honor to have You.

[Dennis Prager]

Oh, I. I'm delighted to be with you. I'm delighted to be with you because you're you. Because it's tpusa, and because I'm delighted to be able to speak.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes.

[Dennis Prager]

Be perfectly honest.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes.

[Dennis Prager]

For those who don't know, I. I had a catastrophic fall in my home on November 12th of 2024, which left me paralyzed from the shoulders down and not breathing, without a ventilator and not speaking. And here I am having an interview with you. So you can imagine, for all those reasons. And finally, I just might note, when I watched the funeral service and other memorial services for Charlie, and I heard all these people describe themselves as Charlie's closest friends, I. I thought it was a great credit to Charlie. Like kids who think, you know, they have five kids and each one thinks that they are the parents favorite. The parents did a good job. Charlie did a good job. But I would just like to remind everybody. Or maybe they didn't even know it, so remind might not be the actual verb. And that is that his last book on Shabbat, on Taking a day in the name of God. Yep, there it is. Stop. In the name of God, why Honoring the Sabbath will transform your life was dedicated to me. Charlie wrote a beautiful dedication. Charlie called me, I would say, almost every week for at least five or eight years, and

[Charlie Kirk]

he.

[Dennis Prager]

He would call after listening to another tape of mine on. On the Torah, the first five books of the Bible, with questions. And the whole idea of Shabbat came from our interactions. So, you know, I'm supposed to promote my book, but here I am promoting Charlie's book.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, it's a beautiful, beautiful testament to your guys's friendship. You shared a deep, deep bond, and I. And we are going to get to your book, which is titled if there is no God, the Battle over who defines Good and Evil. And the fact that you're even coming out with a book, Dennis, is a miracle and a testament to your character and your fortitude and your strength of will. But I want to read Erica Kirk's endorsement of the book. I think it's just so beautiful, and it's a bit long, but I'm gonna do it. He says, this book is a treasure to me. Dennis was more than a mentor to my husband, Charlie. He was a dear friend and one of the few voices who played a role in encouraging Charlie's moral courage. The two of them shared a rare bond, blessed by countless conversations about faith, morality, and what it means to live with conviction in a world that has lost its compass. Reading if there is no God feels like sitting at the table with both of them. Again, it carries forward the very message that both Dennis and Charlie lived. And Charlie died believing that without God, there can be no good, and without truth, there can be no freedom. She's beautiful.

[Dennis Prager]

Yeah. It meant a great deal to me that she would write such a thing in the midst of her grief and her battling. People who want to destroy TP usa. I have never encountered something like this effort to hurt a beautiful institution from people who supposedly are on our side. It's. It's. I don't know if it's unprecedented, but I can't think of a precedent.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, well, you know, I always tell people what God has unleashed, man cannot stop. And so we walk in great faith and great courage. And the movement is expanding. It's growing. Charlie's legacy looms large, I can tell you, here at hq, but at all the chapters, Dennis, that are exploding. It's not just, you know, we're opening 50 new chapters a day, but it's. They're not just two or three kids. We're talking 10, 15, 20, 50 kids, 100 kids. Some of these chapters are thousands of students, large now because of the life and the legacy that Charlie left behind. And you were a huge part of that, Dennis. And one of your most famous questions which relates to your book, of course, is the. It's a famous one from. From your days on the radio. If your beloved. If your beloved dog and a stranger are drowning, who do you save first? This became a incredibly famous question. It's also sort of a starting point for this book. Please explain.

[Dennis Prager]

That's right. I've actually been asking this question for 50 years. 50 years. And the results are. Have been the same throughout those 50 years. I would ask high school students or college students if they love their dogs, which everybody who has one does. And a stranger were drowning and their dog were drowning, who would they try to save first? I know that they would all love to save both and so on, but they have to try to save one first. And virtually every instance cut across economic, racial, religious lines. In virtually every instance, one third of the. Of the group said they would save the stranger, one third said the dog, and one third didn't know what they would do. Two thirds of Americans over half a century would not save, would not save, would not say that they would save the stranger. And that led me to the. The whole supposition of the book that why. That what they were doing is substituting emotions for values. I love my dog. Is an emotion. Humans are created in God's image is a value. That's why I would save a stranger before my beloved dogs. My wife really loves our dogs. I only love them. She really loves them. And she would save a stranger first because she believes that people are created in God's image, animals or not.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's. I really want to drive home for anyone who is a more recent listener just and. Or just didn't know how important your moral guidance was to Charlie when he would think about moral questions. Andrew, you know, he would mention this in private. You know, Dennis says this. This is how Dennis used this problem. He really looked up to you for moral reasoning like that and for framing things. So many things that you would say and we would hear him repeat on campuses because you have that great way of distilling like. Like that difference, you know, using emotions instead of values and the subtle differences between them. I want us to play one of those clips just to illustrate that we have Charlie citing you for a moral question. 487.

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[Charlie Kirk]

As I've said before.

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[Dennis Prager]

It's very moving to me. Obviously, I don't know if either of you know this. Charlie visited me in my hospital room and he brought a. A copy of the trans. Of the. Of the transcript of his. Of his book. Little did I know. Little. It never occurred to me, of course, that I would not see Charlie again. And it broke my heart on. On every grounds.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, Dennis, even in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination, your. Your subtitle, the battle over who defines good and evil. And you think about. I would say the vast majority of people reacted as you would expect and hope and track with to the tragedy and sadness and horror in shock. But there was some voices that reacted in glee, in celebration. And I can't help but think of your subtitle in that book as the perfect distillation of why who. The battle of who gets to find good and evil matters so much. One minute in this segment, Dennis.

[Dennis Prager]

Well, if. If man determines humans determine what is good and evil, then you can have moral inversions where the Nazis are good, are good guys and the Jews and others are bad guys. You have that now in the Middle east where all of a sudden the the Nazis of our time, the true Nazis of our time, Hamas are the good guys. They're battling colonialism and Israel, a democracy with one fifth of its citizens, are Arab Muslims who thrive there and who supported Israel by and large in this war. Israel is, is the bad guy. We, we are living in a morally

[Andrew Torba]

inverted universe, moral inversions because of secular secularism and losing track of God's value system and design for our lives. More with Dennis Prager, the great Dennis Prager when we get back.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined of course by Charlie's mentor, dear friend, the man he dedicated his final book to, Dennis Prager, who is a legend, an icon and one of the most important moral teachers of our time. Dennis, I want to ask you a question that you address in the book. It's called the Problem of Pain. As CS Lewis said, you Know, how does your book answer the question of why a supposedly good God allows for so much suffering and evil in the world?

[Dennis Prager]

I, I've dealt with that all of my life, and. I have so much to say on it. I'll try to be concise. All right, first of all, people need to deal with that issue before tragedy strikes in their life. If you start thinking about that question, well, only once you've been hurt, it's too late. I, I, for whatever reason, was preoccupied with the problem of evil from my high school days. So I have, I dealt with it before. I was personally hit by the tragedy that I am currently living. All right? And therefore I already had answers. People, I'll give you a great example. A woman called my radio show many years ago, said, you know, I just want you to know, Dennis, that I always vehemently disagreed with you on capital punishment. I was opposed to capital punishment, and you were ardently for it. Well, I've come around now to your point of view. I'm for capital punishment. And I said, why? He said, because my brother was murdered. So of course, I offered condolences. But then I said what needed to be said that I said. I said to her, wait a minute. So when millions of other people's brothers were murdered, you never asked the question? And she agreed. She had never asked the question before. This is a common flaw in the human species. We deal with issues only when we are confronted by them. You've got to deal with these issues way before you're hit by them. I did. My way of dealing with it is through reason and religion. The greatest combination there is. Judeo, Christian religions, and, and reason. And, and that is that God allows evil to take place because we, we would be robots otherwise life would lose its meaning. People would no longer be a free species. So that has to happen. And as regards a natural evil, if you will, cancer of the, of. Of the undeserving. You're right. That's. We don't have an answer to that. I've read book after book by theologian after theologian. There's no great answer to the, to the question. And therefore. We, we have only. Job's the answer. At the end of Job, where God says, where were you when I created the world? Do you know why eagles make nests? In other words, we're like puppies as compared to human beings in our ability to understand life. When we compare ourselves to God, we don't know the answer. But I will say I do believe that there's bad luck. Most religious people differ with Me, but I think God, in my case, God allowed gravity to. And lack of friction to take its course. Well, what was he supposed to do? Stop it from happening to me. And I wrote this stuff decades before what happened to me.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's remarkable. And I know one thing I think about. I know Charlie had wanted to do his Sabbath book even before your accident. I know he was planning it, but I also recall after it occurred, I know that really motivated him to make sure that was his next book that he would work on, and it moved him to complete it quickly. I. I don't know if that offers some solace to you or not, but I think. I know Charlie drew some inspiration. He really wanted to get this Dennis inspired book because he knew, you know, maybe he wouldn't recover, and he wanted to make sure that he would have. Be able to carry on your legacy as well with his own work.

[Andrew Torba]

That's true.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now, I don't. I know none of us expected this, but we're glad that I guess you could return the favor. You are continuing Charlie's legacy. We're trying to continue Charlie's legacy.

[Dennis Prager]

That's right.

[Charlie Kirk]

What happened?

[Dennis Prager]

Yeah. And I dedicated my book, which is coming out now, if there is no God, to Charlie, as it happens, which I would have done anyway, but now it was to Charlie's memory, which I still, to this day, I find that almost as unbelievable as my. My paralysis. Charlie Kirk is dead. I. It's this vibrant, incredibly young man. It's.

[Andrew Torba]

I know.

[Dennis Prager]

Yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

It's a. It's a reality that we confront every day. And we still have a seat open here in the studio, Dennis, and we'll never fill it, and. But it's. It's a comfort. I didn't realize how comforting it was going to be to. For me personally to talk to you, Dennis, and to see you doing so well. I didn't know what to expect when I saw you. And your mind is as vibrant and as alive as ever, even if your body's rebelling against you. And this has been truly wonderful. I wish we could have more time, and, in fact, maybe we'll try for that. But thank you so much, Dennis Prager, for talking about your book and talking about Charlie with us today.

[Dennis Prager]

I would love another opportunity to talk to you. And you really, you may not be in that chair, but you're filling the seat beautifully.

[Andrew Torba]

Thank you, Dennis.

[Dennis Prager]

And finally, I just ask your listeners,

[Charlie Kirk]

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