The Charlie Kirk Show, February 24, 2026

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show (Real America's Voice)

Episode Date: February 24, 2026
Host(s): Andrew, Blake (from Phoenix), Guest Commentators
Special Guest: Rep. Chip Roy (TX), Joe Abraham (Angel Family Father), Kane (Citizen Free Press)

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Overview

This episode focuses on several timely and weighty topics: rising political violence and the phenomenon the hosts call "assassination culture," the lasting impact of Charlie Kirk's assassination, controversial media rhetoric, the politicization of violence, upcoming legal developments in the Tyler Robinson trial, and reactions to both President Trump’s upcoming State of the Union address and broader national news. Frequent contributions from guest commentators, a powerful interview with Angel Dad Joe Abraham, and a discussion with Rep. Chip Roy on issues from free speech and political rhetoric to immigration, tie together the show's themes of free expression, political responsibility, and national unity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Preview of the State of the Union and National Security Concerns

[00:25–03:06]

• Benny Ray Harmony sets the stage for President Trump’s State of the Union address: expects accomplishment highlights and an ambitious working-class agenda, alongside emotional moments.
• Discussion of U.S.–Iran tensions; risk of American casualties if the U.S. strikes Iran, briefs expected for Senate leaders, and notable military movements in the Middle East.
• Crackdown on threats against Americans in Mexico and high-profile actions against drug cartels.

Quote:
“The Mexican drug cartels know not to lay a finger on a single American or they will pay severe consequences under this president.” — Benny Ray Harmony (02:04)

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2. Rising Political Violence and "Assassination Culture"

[06:00–15:19, 20:03–23:30]

• Andrew discusses assassination attempts against Trump, Charlie Kirk’s assassination, and the normalization of political violence, blaming inflammatory rhetoric from the left.
• Recap of Charlie Kirk’s own warnings about escalating violence (archival audio from 2020 and onward).
• The Atlantic magazine is sharply criticized for repeated labeling of Republicans as Nazis, contributing to what the hosts describe as "stochastic terrorism."
• Data cited: In the 18-39 liberal demographic, 30% say violence is justified for political ends; poll data suggests many support violence against Elon Musk and President Trump.
• Social media glorification of violence (hashtags, memes) and the risk of copycat crimes.
• Hosts call out mainstream and left-leaning media as amplifying dangerous narratives.

Notable Quotes:

• “We have a huge problem. And Charlie knew that we had a huge problem.” — Andrew (07:05)
• “The responsibility for defeating it in the 21st century falls to everyone who still believes in the American idea. Just repeatedly saying Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi about the right.” — Blake (12:41, quoting The Atlantic)
• “If unchecked, this legitimately could unravel the fabric of democracy. Replacing ballots with bullets and dialogue with division.” — Andrew (19:06)

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3. Interview: Congressman Chip Roy

[24:56-32:57]

• Chip Roy discusses Congressional action following Charlie Kirk’s assassination, advocacy for a select committee to investigate left-wing funding and organization behind targeted violence.
• Emphasizes targeting conservatives and Christians as part of a "Marxist, well-funded" leftist campaign.
• Discusses the consequences of SPLC “hate lists” and the impact of being labeled by these organizations.
• Criticizes the spread of Sharia law and the "Islamification" of America, calling for legislative action in Texas, stricter immigration, and a defense of Judeo-Christian values.
• Explains the economic and legal drivers behind rising Islamic immigration, tying failures in border security and state-level business interests to cultural transformation.

Notable Quotes:

• “We need to be very focused on the flow of the money and the organized effort by the radical Marxist left to target conservatives...to foment that hatred and divide us.” — Chip Roy (25:30)
• “We are at war. We are at war in this world and it is a predicted war.” — Chip Roy (29:18)

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4. Angel Family: Joe Abraham’s Story

[44:56–53:13]

• Emotional interview with Joe Abraham, whose daughter Katie was killed by an illegal immigrant in Illinois.
• Criticizes state and federal authorities for enabling sanctuary policies, lack of vetting, and failing crime victims’ families.
• Contrasts President Trump’s responsiveness and compassion with indifference and avoidance by Illinois Democrats.
• Cites broader policy failures and suppressive tendencies in state governance.

Memorable Quote:

• “Katie ends up paying a price, a predictable outcome of reckless, extreme, radical policies out of Illinois, and she pays the price. She’s on some altar we don’t even understand.” — Joe Abraham (48:28)

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5. Legal Update: Tyler Robinson Trial

[38:36–41:53, 42:14–43:02]

• Court denies defendant’s motion to disqualify the prosecuting attorney’s office, preventing delay in the murder trial for Charlie Kirk’s assassin. Hosts and audience express relief that “justice will not be delayed.”
• Blake: The best counter to the violence is a public, timely trial: “People want justice for what happened.” (38:36)

Quote:

• “If the defense was successful in getting rid of 90% of the evidence against Tyler Robinson, he'd still be found guilty and subject to capital punishment for his crime.” — Andrew (40:52, paraphrasing legal analyst Jonathan Turley)

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6. Media Rhetoric and Conservative Identity

[20:53–22:09, 75:32–77:10]

• The hosts sharply criticize narratives from The Atlantic and Huffington Post equating patriotism/conservatism with Nazism or fascism.
• Extended riff on Don Lamond’s comments dismissing Trump and those who associate with him, with panelists noting the loss of bipartisan patriotism.

Quote:

• “If you care about America, you’re obviously a Nazi. That’s how far...it’s just such ridiculous tripe from the Democrats.” — Kane (74:52)

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7. Election, Economy, and Immigration

[68:08–74:07, 56:27–59:03]

• Kane (Citizen Free Press) joins to preview what his audience hopes to hear in the State of the Union: focus on national debt, government fraud, and solutions (balanced budget, detailed audits).
• Interest rates and the real estate market: still a major drag on family finances and home buying aspirations.
• Hosts champion Trump’s reforms for speeding up immigration court cases and lay groundwork for future mass deportations (“big white pill for today”).

Notable Quotes:

• "I want to hear about the national debt. I’d love to hear Trump talk about a spending freeze.” — Kane (68:08)
• "Mass deportations in the years to come. You just purge those cases, get it done. That’s a big white pill for today." — Blake (58:16)

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8. Patriotism and Cultural Moments

[59:03–62:54]

• “White pill” moments: US Men’s Olympic Hockey Team wins gold, sings “God Bless the USA”, and is invited to State of the Union by President Trump—met with pride by hosts, derision by left-wing Twitter.
• Celebration of unashamed “masculine energy” and unapologetic patriotism in public culture.

Quote:

• _"I think everybody needs to loosen up, have a moment of just pure, unadulterated national pride and relax." — Andrew (61:20)

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9. Iran, Foreign Policy, Epstein

[81:09–86:32]

• The threat of US–Iran conflict and the challenge of “regime change” are discussed with caution; the hosts and guests stress a trust in Trump’s foreign policy instincts but want a clear case made to Americans.
• The Epstein files and broader political skepticism: the show briefly touches on public attention to these issues, though detail is limited in this segment.

Quote:

• “Regime change through airstrikes is not easy. You have The Ayatollah hiding 300ft underground in bunkers...” — Kane (85:52)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment | |--------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:25–03:06 | State of the Union preview, Iran update, drug cartel crackdown | | 06:00–15:19 | Political violence, assassination culture, media rhetoric | | 24:56–32:57 | Interview: Rep. Chip Roy on violence, free speech, immigration | | 44:56–53:13 | Interview: Joe Abraham (Angel Family) on daughter’s killing | | 38:36–43:02 | Tyler Robinson trial update, impact on conservative movement | | 56:27–59:03 | “White pill”: Immigration court system reform | | 59:03–62:54 | US Men’s Hockey Team, patriotism, cultural pride | | 68:08–74:07 | Kane (Citizen Free Press): Debt, economy, SOTU preview | | 81:09–86:32 | Iran policy, foreign affairs, Epstein reference |

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Every day there's a battle for your mind. … Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not, you found the place for truth.” — Andrew, opening theme (05:03)
• “Charlie was assassinated for speaking his mind in the public square. And what is the point? The point is they want to strike at the heart of free expression and free speech, open discourse. They want to silence conservative voices.” — Andrew (18:49)
• “Nothing else matters...If we’re not proclaiming the gospel of Christ...Charlie talked about those things.” — Chip Roy (29:05)
• “People want justice for what happened. They need to see the process playing out.” — Blake (38:36)
• "America should be for Americans. ... They just say, well, it's a Nazi slogan. You don't want to be a Nazi, do you?" — Blake, quoting The Atlantic, critiquing rhetorical overreach (21:25)
• “This is much worse than the heckler's veto. This is the assassin's veto and it must stop.” — Andrew (19:24)
• “If the defense was successful in getting rid of 90% of the evidence..., he'd still be found guilty and subject to capital punishment for his crime.” — Andrew (40:52, quoting legal analyst Jonathan Turley)
• “You make it so much easier for ICE to just grab people, get them out. ... That is what allows ICE to just go and say, oh, you have an order of removal. We're taking you, getting you out of the country.” — Blake (58:16)

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

• The tone is urgent, emotional, sometimes confrontational, but also punctuated with moments of levity and pride.
• There is a strong focus on threats to free speech, conservative safety, and political fairness, often couched in religious and cultural values.
• The episode memorializes the late Charlie Kirk, renews calls for political accountability, and presses for patriotic unity — all while offering a platform for alternative conservative voices and analysis.
• Listeners are left with a call to vigilance (“pray for America”), justice, and hope in the face of adversity, as well as encouragement to celebrate American achievements and heritage.

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For deeper detail, reference the timestamps above for each major segment, speaker, and topic.

Transcript

[Andrew]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

He is going to share the stories of great American heroes who exemplify bravery and the spirit of of 1776. And the President is of course going to tout his administration's record setting accomplishments over the past year while laying out an ambitious agenda to continue making the American dream more attainable and affordable for working class people across the country. It's going to be a great speech. There will be some tear jerking moments as there was last year, in addition to some moments of levity. And so we hope everybody will tune in. There are reports that this morning that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is telling President that there is a high risk of American casualties if the US Strikes Iran. I know you're also a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. What do you know about the possible timing of a strike? Do you expect a briefing anytime soon? Yeah, we certainly have heard that Secretary Rubio is briefing the Gang of Eight, I think as early as today, which is an important sign. I was just in the Middle east last week and there's definitely movement of a ton of military assets into the theater. Lot of jittery people.

[Andrew]

I believe Senator Thune is going to bring it forward. I believe he's going to allow us

[Chip Roy]

to get a vote.

[Don Lamond]

What remains to be seen is exactly what procedure we will use.

[Blake]

But I hope in that process I'll

[Don Lamond]

continue to make the case to him

[Chip Roy]

and to my other colleagues that filibustering

[Andrew]

senators should be required to speak. If they don't want this law, let them explain that at length to the

[Chip Roy]

American people until they are no longer

[Andrew]

able to do so. What can you tell those people? Can we get them out?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Secretary Rubio and the State Department are absolutely on it. We hear from Americans directly who are in Mexico because the State Department immediately set up 24, seven phone lines and they're taking hundreds of calls a day. Right now we are unaware of any reports of any Americans being hurt, kidnapped or killed. And the Mexican drug cartels know not to lay a finger on a single American or they will pay severe consequences under this president. And they already are. This operation, which was carried out successfully by the Mexican authorities, was of course supported by the United States, would not have happened without the leadership of President Trump. He has made it a day one priority to target and go after these vicious drug cartels that have shipped deadly poison to our country for far too long.

[Kane]

What we saw today, and just in the last hour or so, is Peter Mandelson, who Was the UK Ambassador to the US arrested, Taken in for questioning on sharing sensitive information from when he was involved in the trade envoy with the British government in 2009. Now he has been accused of sharing market moving documents and of suspicion of misconduct in public office. Now Mandelson was sacked back in September as the British ambassador. And the big questions are now moving on towards Keir Starmer, who appeared to know his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein when he hired him for that role. And so there are big questions being asked about how much Keir Starmer knew the Prime Minister and what his future holds as well.

[Don Lamond]

Look, I don't understand why anyone would be want to be in the vicinity of this president at all. I'm just being honest. If they called on the phone call, I would say, no, thank, no thanks, I know. Do you want to take the call?

[Chip Roy]

No.

[Don Lamond]

Tell him to call someone else. I'm not interested in being part of this. I'm not interested in being part of this. When he doesn't. He is not a patron. He doesn't care about this country. He doesn't care about the people of this country. He certainly doesn't. If you look at the citizens who are being rounded up, if you look at what he's doing to the economy, what he's done to health care, he doesn't care about this country. So why should I be smiling and kicking? No, not interested.

[Guest Commentator]

It's like you right now should come out and be like, you know what? The young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that's that, that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out

[Andrew]

and say, no, no, and I appreciate,

[Guest Commentator]

but like, would you do something like that? Would you say no? Men in female sports.

[Chip Roy]

Well, it's. I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. So that's easy to call out the unfairness of that.

[Andrew]

There's also a humility and grace.

[Chip Roy]

You know, that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. And the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that

[Andrew]

I have a hard time with as well.

[Chip Roy]

So both things I can hold in my hand.

[Andrew]

Charlie Kirk. Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not, you found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Guest Commentator]

Buckle up, here we go.

[Andrew]

All Right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is February 24, 2026. Blake's holding it down in Phoenix, Arizona at the Bitcoin.com studio, your one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin. Hello, Blake.

[Blake]

Hey, Andrew. I guess the first thing we should do is we should just make sure everyone realizes that we did not get rid of the studio because I think that happens every time we have one of us in D.C. we get all of the panicked emails.

[Andrew]

No, yeah, exactly.

[Blake]

It's all still here. Chair is still here. Nothing has changed.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's a good point. Thank you for bringing up what I consider the obvious, but nevertheless, we have to bring it up sometimes. I am in D.C. i was graciously invited to attend the State of the Union by Representative Andy Ogles. And so I'm here in town. I got a lot of busy stuff today ahead of me, but the show must come first, Blake. Unfortunately, there is a clip that. It really broke my heart to see it, actually. And we have to keep hitting this topic. It's a terrible topic to talk about. Actually, it's my least favorite topic to talk about. But we have to. And it was President Trump, something he said yesterday at the White House. And it's the rise of assassination culture. And we just, we have to do it, we have to address it. So let's get right into it. 368.

[Joe Abraham]

I don't know how long I'll be around. Get a lot of people gunning for me, don't I?

[Andrew]

But I will, I will not forget them.

[Joe Abraham]

I'm never going to forget them.

[Andrew]

I saw that clip, actually, not until this morning, Blake. I actually watched it last night, didn't log it, saw it this morning. And it broke my heart, actually. And of course he was referencing what happened at Mar a Lago with the Austin Martin case where he was killed, apparently trying to assassinate the President. Ginned up on conspiracy theories, frustration, whatever, locked inside an ideological echo chamber on social media. And that is the third known assassination attempt against President Trump in the last two years. And of course, that strikes the heart of this show, the show that bears the name Charlie Kirk, who we lost to an assassin's bullet in September. And we have a huge problem. And Charlie knew that we had a huge problem. And it only is getting worse by the day. The rhetoric from the left, the dehumanizing rhetoric from the left is only getting worse. And we're going to explain that in just a second. But I want to play a couple clips here of Charlie himself acknowledging the rise of left wing political violence in America.

[Guest Commentator]

380 so many New Yorkers seem to want to support this. And in some ways Florida is to blame because the patriotic New Yorkers are moving to Florida. Therefore you're left with a remnant of Communist Marxist Islamist Mohammedan voters in the city of New York. We must fight for our blue cities.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That's not the clip I wanted. But there is a clip with. We'll just go to the next one. This is back in 2020. Charlie raising this issue then.389 this is

[Guest Commentator]

gonna get really nasty.

[Andrew]

Everyone listen to this.

[Guest Commentator]

I just hope you understand. Think of the nastiest moment in 2016. They are not gonna let this guy get reelected without the most brutal drawn out fight. We're gonna have the tech companies getting involved. The media is gonna get worse than ever. They're gonna be taking down counts left and right. They're going to be taking videos on YouTube. They are going to be coming after us. They're going to be following us in the middle of the night. They're going to be breaking into our houses. You think I'm joking? They are going to have violent that. You will not be able to walk the streets of the MAGA hat without your. Your physical health be put in jeopardy. And I hope it doesn't get that way. I hope that this clip gets unearthed and everything's like wonderful. I hope that the country comes together and we have a beautiful Unitarian healing moment in September.

[Andrew]

And that's 2020. Blake. Many years ago. And he saw it then. And then this clip we have to play. We have it loaded up now. 379 My fear Senator.

[Guest Commentator]

And I hope I'm wrong. And let's say stay in prayer that I'm wrong. That someone is going to get shot the same way that Steve Scalise got shot and God forbid killed. The left is creating a pressure cooker with so many of their rank and file paramilitary troops that very well might result in one of us getting shot or killed. God forbid that happens. We're getting death threats every single day here on the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Andrew]

Such a haunting clip. Blake.

[Blake]

And there's more like it.

[Andrew]

I think.

[Blake]

I think we continue to find as we go through the archives more times. Charlie would talk about that

[Chip Roy]

and it

[Blake]

always hits me because I remember not taking it as seriously. I would always. I would reassure him. Charlie. People don't for the most part don't do that. And he was right to worry. I was the idiot. And one reason we're talking about this is not Just because of what the President said. But there's endless cases of them, of the left deliberately, people who should know better, constantly amping up. Low level actors, the mentally imbalanced, the mentally unwell, the people who are. They're more likely to get tipped over the edge. And so I was just absolutely set off. Yesterday there was an article in the Atlantic magazine. For those of you who don't read it, the Atlantic is up there with the New York Times as a prestige outlet of what you would call the mainstream left opinion getting published there. Yeah, it's like being on the front page of the New York Times. It's. It's more prestigious than the Washington Post. It's like the Wall Street Journal and one of their editors, Tom Nichols, they slid out this article yesterday. And it is. The Republican Party has a Nazi problem. Let's see how many times they use the word Nazi in that article. They use the word Nazi in this article at least 15 times. And it just repeatedly says, it just says the Republicans have a Nazi problem. This means the United States has a Nazi problem. The responsibility for defeating it is in the 21st century falls to everyone who still believes in the American idea. Just repeatedly saying Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi about the right. And as I said online last night, it's very clear what's going on here. We had a deranged leftist who's in court today. We're monitoring that. Tyler Robinson, he murdered Charlie because he was whipped up by this rhetoric of Nazis, this rhetoric of genocide. We've had a gunman shoot up an ICE facility and kill multiple detainees, but he wanted to kill ICE officers. We have these insurgents essentially in Minneapolis constantly getting in the face of ICE agents who end up getting shot themselves. But very well, this could end in ICE agents being shot. The entire point is to throw it all into tumult. We have multiple transgender radicals. And of course we've had four attempted assassination or three attempted assassinations of the President that have ended in someone being shot. And I just can't. It feels deliberate to me that when Tom Nichols goes out here and just writes Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. It is the line left used in the past. Stochastic terrorism. It is the rhetoric that drives unwell people over the edge so that they're going to go grab a gun and try to shoot someone because they're nuts and they take this stuff literally.

[Andrew]

Yeah, well said. And you know, remember Tyler Robinson said that some hate you just can't be negotiated out in reference to Charlie. And you know, I think we're not done addressing this issue. We're going to continue talking about it in the next segment. And just again, I can't underscore enough how much that clip from President Trump just broke my heart watching it. And I think it's specifically because of our proximity to Charlie that it hit so hard. As I want to tell you about strong cell, if you've been a faithful podcast listener to the Charlie Kirk show for any amount of time, you've heard us talk about it, you heard Charlie talk about it. He loved strong cell. If you deal with brain fog, fatigue, lack of energy or constant illness, then you have to try strong cell. People always ask Charlie how he's able to keep his mind so sharp and his energy up. And strongcell was his go to. Believe it or not, they have a proprietary delivery mechanism of an amazing enzyme called NADH which is what makes StrongCell so special. It is the power source for every cell in your body and boy, does it work. And now you can try strong cell completely risk free with their 90 day money back guaranteed. Completely risk free. Go to strongcell.com today. Use promo code Charlie at checkout for 20 off. Gotta try it for four to six weeks, guys. Four to six weeks. It will change your life. Go to strongcell.com Charlie at checkout for 20 off. We'll be right back.

[Guest Commentator]

To assassin would be assassins dead, one

[Joe Abraham]

in jail for life.

[Don Lamond]

And this venom coming from the other side.

[Guest Commentator]

We don't know whether this person was a mastermind, unhinged or what, but they are normalizing this violence.

[Chip Roy]

It's got to stop.

[Andrew]

That's Scott Bessant and he's absolutely 100% right. He himself has been targeted by political violence. You don't hear as much about it, but I happen to know, I think it's been reported somewhere. But listen, in recent years, political violence has become increasingly normalized, shifting from a fringe extremist kind of movement to mainstream discourse. And you don't have to take my word for it. Just go on TikTok. Just go on TikTok. You'll see videos celebrating the targeting of ICE officers all over the place. You'll see them celebrating going after top Trump administration officials. It's assassination culture and it glorifies targeted killings as acts of justice against perceived oppressors, which you could just insert MAGA or conservatives. And it's fueled by social media in these echo chambers. Mangione His 2024 assassination of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been celebrated by segments of the far left as heroic resistance Hashtags like Free Luigi have gained traction with over 50,000 posts. And they call him a hero. The idolization risks massive amounts of copycat killers. Just look at this graph. This graph is. We've brought it up before and it's so important. Look at image 31. This was taken. This poll was taken in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's assassination. The question was posed, is it ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals? This is the percent responding, yes. In the 18 to 39 group of liberals, 30% said yes, violence was justified. We have other polls that say almost 50% would suggest the same thing for Elon Musk. And over 50%. 55% would say the same for President Trump. There it is. That's that graphic that they think it would be justified to kill those men to achieve a political end. Since 2025, assaults on ICE officers have skyrocketed 1800% overall, with vehicular attacks up 3200%. Blake mentioned before that a gunman shot up an ICE facility, didn't kill any ICE officers, but he killed a few detainees. Incidents include attempted murders and protests turning violent. Charlie's assassination by Tyler Robinson, who cited Charlie's quote, unquote hate as his motive, exemplifies far left inspired violence post assassination. Some online reactions celebrated it. Gross, vile, disgusting Online celebrations mirroring Mangione's fandom and fueling lawsuits over free speech crackdowns. Charlie was assassinated for speaking his mind in the public square. And what is the point? The point is they want to strike at the heart of free expression and free speech, open discourse. They want to silence conservative voices. It's a terrifying escalation and normalization of political violence in assassination culture. This is why we watch it so closely. This is why we're going to have our eyes on the Tyler Robinson case this afternoon. Just a little bit. Yeah. What does this do? It chills dissent. It heightens threats to public officials. You have numbers of the Trump administration living in military bases in and around D.C. because they are no longer safe to live in a normal home. If unchecked, this legitimately could unravel the fabric of democracy. Replacing ballots with bullets and dialogue with division, pushing America toward a fractured future where voices are silenced not by votes, but by violence. This is much worse than the heckler's veto. This is the assassin's veto and it must stop. We have to get to root causes. And when you see articles like this from the Atlantic, which is a complete joke, which is an intentional provocation as Blake said earlier, inviting crazy people to take shots at conservatives by calling them all Nazis. The problem is only going to get worse. It's not going to get better. This is not a prestige publication. This is a joke of a publication that wants conservatives dead.

[Blake]

No, I think I gotta push back at you on that one, Andrew. That's the problem. It is not a. It's not a joke publication. First, he's not joking. And second, it really is, despite whatever we'd say is a prestige outlet, over a million subscribers. They are one of those very rare bastions that still has a huge amount of the prestige, dignity, whatever you want from half a century ago. And that is exactly why it's, it's so dangerous. It's one thing if these insane things get written in, I don't know someone's blog, if it's on a substack post. This is one of the rare publications that can blast out an insane take 2 millions of people and launder it as a legitimate one. And the stuff he says in the article is just so over the top.

[Andrew]

We should highlight some of these.

[Blake]

The throw up 386. The Department of Homeland Security used an anthem beloved by neo Nazi groups. By God, we'll have our home again. In a recruitment ad, the Labor Department hung a banner of Donald Trump's face from its headquarters as if Washington were Berlin in 1936. It posted expressions on social media such as America is for Americans. An obvious riff on the Nazi slogan Germany.

[Andrew]

How about it's just common sense. Yes, it's common sense.

[Blake]

It's repeatedly, it's a repeatedly overriding thing in all of these hysterical takes that like, they just kind of, they BS you whatever you want to say about what you can tell your race. It's obviously not insane to say America should look out for Americans. America should be for Americans. So they have to like, just say, well, it's a Nazi slogan. It's a Nazi slogan to say that you don't want to be a Nazi, do you? And then in the article, he's, he like, has to cover for the fact that they've. He's like, well, yeah, the left, you know, we used to, We've lionized Angela Davis, a college professor who helped murder a judge. You know, we, we all partied with Bill Ayers, a terrorist who mailed bombs to the military and to Congress. But, like, you know, that's different. You know, our terrorism is a thing.

[Andrew]

I think he gives up the, the real story here in 385. This image. Critics of the GOP have long argued, have long argued something like the Trump movement and the emergence of a new American Nazism was inevitable, that conservatism as a belief system inevitably decays into fascism. So this is their core ideology. And this is why you see these unhinged reactions across the Atlantic, by the way, to the rise of conservative populist movements like maga, because they believe that it's a runaway train that they must stop by not just punching a Nazi, by killing a Nazi. And make no mistake, that is the through line that if force was justified to take out Hitler and the Third Reich in Germany, well, then force is justified to kill conservatives here because it inevitably decays into fascism. This is their fear. They stay up at night thinking that all of you watching this right now are Nazis, that I'm a Nazi, that we're all fascists. And so why not just take out a gun and shoot one of us? They've done it before and they're going to do it again. I pray for this country. Chip Roy joins us next.

[Chip Roy]

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[Andrew]

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[Chip Roy]

Great to be on, fellows. Hope you're doing well.

[Andrew]

Thank you. Yeah, well, you know, to be honest, and I'd love for you to chime in on this, Chip, there's, it's just, you know, we spent the first two segments of the show going over this ridiculous article from the Atlantic on assassination or calling everybody Nazis, that is the conservative Nazis, fascists, all this stuff. And I just can't help but make the connection that they want conservatives dead. The dehumanizing rhetoric, this assassination attempt again against President Trump. Please, Congressman.

[Chip Roy]

Well, as you all know, because you all had witness testimony participate, we had a hearing in the Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, which I chair, to address this topic. And one of the things I did immediately after the brutal murder of Charlie was to call on a special select committee which so many of my member colleagues have joined with me in that call. And we haven't done it yet, but I think we need to be very focused on the flow of the money and the organized effort by the radical Marxist left to target conservatives, to target Christians, to target our Judeo Christian values, all an intentional way to foment that hatred and divide us, which then puts a specific target on our key conservative leaders. Whether it was President Trump, whether it was Charlie, whether it was as we had and you know, Tony Perkins, whose Family Research Council was targeted about a decade ago and shot up when the Southern Poverty Law center made very clear and put them on their hate map list. And now that I'm daring to co chair the Sharia Free America Caucus that I co founded with Keith Self, my fellow Texan, now CAIR is putting us on a hate list. I can't remember what it's called, but somehow I'm now a hater because I believe we should stand up on our Judeo Christian values and defend those against the Islamification of the country. Now, I just touched on a lot of issues, but the main one is the organized effort by the Marxist left that is well funded, it's purposeful, and they are putting targets on us and using rhetoric intentionally to raise that temperature.

[Andrew]

You're 100% right, Congressman. And I'm absolutely sick of it. I've been sick of it. Charlie was sick of it. He called it out, he warned about it. He lost his life because we're not taking this seriously. And our colleagues on the other side of the aisle, as we like to say, continue to call us fascist Nazis, putting us on hate list. This was SPLC put turning point on its hate map. Image 27. I mean, you sort of wonder, you know, does this contribute to this cycle of violence? And it's coming from the left. And I'm so sick of hearing about how we have a violence problem on both sides. Maybe we do, maybe it's rising on the right and we're gonna see it emerge. But right now it's coming from the left to the right and I'm just, I'm sick of it. I know this isn't why we had you on the show today, sir, but I'm grateful for your input. It's just, it's got to stop.

[Chip Roy]

No, I'll talk about whatever issue you all want to talk about. We talked about the State of Union address. We can talk about Sharia law. But, but, but really this is the central issue, okay? All of the issues that we're going to address as conservatives, as God fearing Americans, all go through this central issue, that they are an organized bunch of Marxists who want to undermine our country. That's it. Like what Charlie? You know, when I go out on the campaign trail, I talk about a number of things about Charlie. And by the way, I'm careful. Charlie was a good friend in the political circles. I don't go around masquerading like he and I were best buds. But talk about responsive. Like I would text Charlie, hey, what's going on? Our last substantive conversation was about the Islamification of America and the West. But when I talk about Charlie, I say two things. One, he wasn't afraid to call out that organized bunch of Marxists and the extent to which they are organized against us. And two, and most importantly, it wasn't the freedom shirt, respectfully, it wasn't talking about limited government and constitution. All great things, all important. It was that he was going to college campuses and proclaiming the gospel of Christ. And I want to stop and hold there for a second because nothing else matters. The freedom that we're talking about, the ability to carry out our lives according to our conscience, none of that matters. If we're not proclaiming the gospel of Christ and we get wrapped around our American axle and we hide behind the First Amendment to say that we don't talk about those things. Charlie talked about those things. TPUSA leads on those things. Keep doing it. It is central. And that organized Marxist left, it's all biblical. The advance of the Islamification, that's all biblical. We are at war. We are at war in this world and it is a predicted war. And we need to gird our loins for that battle and we need to be proud of it. We need to be defensive of our families and our heritage and our community and who we are as Americans and what that's meant for the world and why Sharia law is bad and why the Islamification of America would destroy all that is good and great about Western civilization and what America means for it. So sorry for that little bit of a rant, but that's so central.

[Andrew]

Congressman, I just want to say quickly that you've always been very gracious in the way you talk about Charlie and Charlie and you were great friends and he believed in you and he had your back. You came on the show constantly with Charlie and I'm grateful that you come on the show with us. You have helped make the Islamification of Texas a massive issue in that primary season in that state. Why is this happening? We've talked about this before, but can we get brass tacks like who the heck's funding this crap? Like who's green lighting it? Who's hiding behind, you know, whatever law or statute you know, why can't we make this stop in a proud red state of Texas?

[Chip Roy]

Well, we can if we choose to. And I'm proud to co chair the Sharia Free America Caucus with key self. I've introduced legislation to take away the tax status for care, introduced legislation to vet people for their adherence to Sri Lanka, and I've introduced legislation to pause all immigration until we do those things and other things to get our house in order in terms of who we are as Americans. We have 51 1/2 million foreign born people. That's 16% of the population. That's the highest percentage we've ever had. We froze immigration in the 1920s. We should do it again. But to answer your question, Texas has three or four key problems. Number one, Texas is suffering from a failure by the federal government to secure the border, both from a illegal immigration standpoint, but importantly legal immigration. We've allowed the abuse of H1B visas, of so called diversity visas, of the SIV issues with respect to Afghanistan and all of these things to bring loads of people into our country post 911 who are Islamists. Number two, Texas, with all due respect to our current leadership, has sold itself to the corporate establishment in Texas that wants labor. And they hide behind saying we need, quote, skilled labor. But the truth is they're just importing people that do not adhere to our values. And at some point you've got to defend Texas. And as attorney General, my message to a lot of the Business leaders is I'm going to defend the state of Texas and our value system as much as I am. The needs for businesses to have labor. Let's make sure we're building our labor from within and make sure we defend our values. But I think those two things, wide open borders, a loose legal immigration system on issues bringing people in from countries that are Islamic centric, and then businesses driving the agenda in Texas has driven so many people into the state of Texas again, plus the open border.

[Andrew]

I can. I completely agree. Part of it is a federal issue with this mass immigration. We're still doing 1.2 million green cards a year. Okay. And a lot of this is visa lottery. A lot of this is family reunification. We're importing the third world still, even with the border closed, and we're not addressing it. Secondly, I do agree Texas is beholden to corporate interests. It just is. You go around that state and developers are running roughshod, so something's got to give. Speaking of Texas, though, Congressman, you surprised me. You have spoken out on the Brandon Herrera race. Explain why you chose to do that and why now.

[Chip Roy]

So, two years ago, at the very end of the primary in May, I endorsed Brandon Herrera. I know Brandon, and he loves freedom. He's a big second Amendment guy. We met, we visited, and frankly, I probably should have endorsed him sooner, but it's tough. It's tough when you, you know, with your delegation in Texas, you know, we usually don't endorse against each. But with all due respect, Tony had been against us on so many issues. HR to HR 29, my bill. I won't get to the weeds. But he was a thorn in our side when we were trying to secure the border. So I ultimately endorsed Brandon. He came within 150 votes or so of winning that primary, and I wish he had. And then I, you know, look, you come back together, you work with your colleagues. I was inclined to support Brandon, but because I'm running statewide in Texas, I've largely stayed out of primaries. Right. It's just not that advised running statewide, especially, you know, when you're first running, running statewide to go jump in a bunch of primaries. Sure, but this one mattered. And then when the. When the news is breaking about Tony. We've known some of these things that were out there, but they're rumors. And you got to give people due process. You don't jump to conclusions based on what's put out on social media. But enough smoke tells me there's fire. And we need a standard bearer for Texas 23 who can hold that seat. And we need a God fearing, strong conservative. And I think Brandon fits that bill. So yesterday, I think I called on Tony to step out of the race and I endorsed Brandon. I think I was the first Texan and one of the first in the Congress to do it. And I haven't yet called on him to resign because I think due process matters. I think you gotta get authenticity of information and all of that, and I think it's dangerous. For example, this Florida woman Democrat who's indicted. I haven't called on her to resign yet either, even though she probably should. But. But, you know, I think you gotta let due process play out. Sorry, I didn't mean to filibuster there.

[Andrew]

No, no, no, you're great. And we want to talk about the cartels. You've been leading on that issue too, Congressman. There's so much there. Please, Everybody, go to chiproy.com, check out his campaign, get behind him like Charlie was behind him. We think you're gonna do a great job, Congressman, as Attorney General in Texas. And we'll have you back on again soon. Much news to discuss. Thank you, sir.

[Chip Roy]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate y'.

[Kane]

All.

[Chip Roy]

Thanks for the support and the endorsement. God bless you.

[Andrew]

God bless you. Absolutely. I'm going to tell you guys about Hillsdale when we get back, but it's awesome. So that we can get into that. There is breaking news on the Tyler Robinson front. Motion denied. Just getting word in. I'm going to break this down in the break and we'll have an update for you on the other side. We'll be right back.

[Don Lamond]

All right.

[Andrew]

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[Blake]

Yes, it was just, it was a big delaying effort. It was kind of a, it was a Hail Mary. You'd force out out all the prosecutors in the office, then they would have to send it to either the AG's office or a different county. You delay it for months, you muddle the case more, you drive people more into a frenzy about things. Because as we've said, the best counter to a lot of the wild things we've seen online that we've seen in our own inboxes, that we've seen on X is people want justice for what happened. They need to see the process playing out. And it's been so frustrating to people, seeing how glacial things are moving. It's been frustrating to us. Above all, we're constantly asking, okay, when is there finally going to be a journey? When is there finally going to be a trial? They were trying to drag it out even further. And very thankfully the judge did rule against this motion. So that means we're going to at least stay on the schedule that we'd set before.

[Andrew]

So here's the actual language. The court now reads its ruling. We're getting video just breaking which will be made available and posted later today before the court defends its motion to disqualify Utah County Attorney's Office. Defendant argues that high level prosecutor assigned to this case has a concurrent conflict of interest and because no efforts were made to screen him, the entire office should be disqualified. Again, this is coming from the defense. This is a judge ruling because defendant has not established a factual basis for finding conflict of interest or objective appearance of impropriety rising to a constitutional concern. His motion is respectfully denied. So as we looked. So this was a big one that we were. We marked on the calendar to see if this case was going to get delayed or if the speedy trial promise that we are afforded in his case as the defendant was actually going to be met. But yes, to Blake's point, this was a, this was a delay tactic. It has been denied by the, by the court. So we're grateful there. So next landmarks to keep an eye on. We are all eyes on May. So May is going to be the big month and that is going to be the preliminary hearing where the prosecution team which will now stay in place is going to present the mountain of evidence that they have accumulated over the course of these months against Tyler Robinson. I'm told a lot of this is evidence that you have not seen or heard before. Some of it was in the original charging documents. But there is going to be additional evidence. And you know, I just hearken back to the words of Jonathan Turley who reviewed this case and said that if 90%, if the defense was successful in getting rid of 90% of the evidence against Tyler Robinson, he'd still be found guilty and subject to capital punishment for his crime. And so to think that you could lose 90% of what we already know exists, still get a guilty verdict. But then there's even more that they haven't yet made public. Mountains more potentially is a very I guess comforting thought as we seek justice for Charlie Blake. I don't know if you have any other thoughts on this matter, but. No, I mean it's a big moment.

[Blake]

It's just a genuine mercy. We're very happy to see it.

[Andrew]

I think we have the clips now.

[Blake]

We can't talk about it as much for obvious reasons but this is. It's trying for us to observe it. It causes us a lot of stress to see updates like this and we do have to trust the process and it's good when the process plays along and shows you what you want to see which is this sort of thing.

[Andrew]

And we are loaded. We have the clip. 404.

[Joe Abraham]

The court now reads its ruling which will be made available and posted later

[Chip Roy]

today

[Andrew]

before the court is defendants motion

[Chip Roy]

to disqualify Utah County Attorney's Office.

[Kane]

Defendant argues that high level prosecutor assigned to this case has a concurrent conflict

[Chip Roy]

of interest and because no efforts were

[Andrew]

made to screen him the entire office should be dispatched disqualified because defendant has

[Chip Roy]

not established a factual basis for a

[Andrew]

finding of conflict of interest or an

[Kane]

objective appearance of impropriety, rising to a constitutional concern. His motion is respectfully denied.

[Andrew]

Good. And I guess we the they're moving to a death penalty discussion upcoming. So we're going to continue monitoring that. But this is, I feel like been a really important show, actually. You sometimes wake up in the morning and you don't know which ones are going to be important. When I saw that, I think they're all important, but some are more so. But when I saw that clip from President Trump was this moment of vulnerability from the commander in chief ahead of the what's typically considered the most or one of the most important addresses to the nation on the calendar. And so he's going to talk about, you know, the economy, the winds, focus on domestic tranquility and success. And overshadowing so much of this conversation tonight is this idea that the left wants political violence exacted upon its political enemies, Conservatives. Maga. God bless Chip Roy for addressing it in committee. But more work needs to be done. This needs to be rooted out at a very deep level. It stole our friend from us, the host of this show, whose name is still on this show. It has almost taken President Trump's life, countless others in the administration. And it is a pall that hangs over this whole country. It's a tragedy, it's an evil, and it must be blotted out. Pray for America. Pray for this country. Hour two comes up next.

[Kane]

All right.

[Andrew]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Hour two is underway. I'm here in D.C. ahead of the State of the Union. Blake's holding it down at the Bitcoin.com studio in Phoenix, Arizona. So there was a powerful event that happened yesterday. And again, President Trump, I thought, hit an amazing note when he said, I will not forget, and he was referring to angel families. And a lot of us know the story of Lake and Riley in Georgia who was killed at the hands of an illegal immigrant. But there are so many stories that we don't hear as much about and we need to. And here to help us is Joe Abraham. He's an angel, father to daughter Katie who was killed by an illegal immigrant. He joins us now. He was at the event yesterday. Joe, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show and thanks so much for taking the time to be with us. Please tell us your story and your family story. Sure.

[Joe Abraham]

Thanks for having me and allowing me to talk about Katie and Katie's life. So Katie was 20 years old. She was a third year student at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio. And her and a friend in the in the Glenview Illinois area, that's where we live. Took the train down to Urbana, Illinois to visit some friends at the University of Illinois. Over the weekend of January, you know, 18th, they went down there. They were in an automobile on January 19 at a stoplight, idle, and they were rear ended at almost 80 miles an hour. Just decimated the Honda Civic they were in. The SUV just plowed right into them. No breaking, no swerving. Katie unfortunately died on the scene. Another young woman died the next day. There were three injuries. And it turned out the person who struck the vehicle, you know, not only fled right away, I mean, can you imagine? You decimate five lives and the first instinct you have is to, to flee. So it turns out he is an illegal alien, a Guatemalan national using a Mexican national alias. So sanctuary state Illinois, when they nullified federal law, did not put any type of a real process in place. On the front end, there were no guardrails. That's how negligent and how Illinois is so mismanaged by the governor Pritzker on down General assembly, every, every state legislature. So there are no guardrails. Now on top of this in the country, using an alias and false documentations, identity theft or whatever you want to call it, he flees. They finally apprehend him two days after Donald Trump is in office on the 20th, shuts down the border. I truly believe if New York is and Biden were still running things, he would have never been apprehended. So thank goodness for Donald Trump coming in, shutting the border down, allowing U.S. marshals and border Patrol to do their jobs unlike the prior administration, they apprehended him. Now it turns out in federal court he is, now that he's been incarcerated, is being treated for hiv. So understand this as well. Illinois did not only have zero minimal vetting checks because the federal enforcement officers knew he was using an alias. They knew he was not who he says he was. Illinois didn't bother to check 2. Did Illinois help this guy with any health screening? No, there was absolutely not. So Illinois allows folks to roam around the state unchecked, unvetted, unhealth screened. So this guy has HIV in our communities, was let go to roam free. Was he as reckless with his HIV as he was behind the wheel, drunk driving? I suspect he was. So Katie ends up paying a price, a predictable outcome of reckless, extreme, radical policies out of Illinois, and she pays the price. She's on some altar we don't even understand. She dies on some altar of J.B. pritzker and his lap dogs in the general Assembly. So I sit here with a life sentence thanks to my Illinois government. And Katie received the death penalty. She got death. That's it. And Illinois is right now trying to erase us, silence us, make us disappear. We're so inconvenient to their nonsense stories about how there are no illegals in the country, that everyone is good and it just goes against human nature how they approach things. It's really rather disgusting and insidious.

[Andrew]

Well, and Joe, you know, CNN, Ms. now refused to air that ceremony that was honoring your families, that was honoring Katie and Lake and Riley and so many others before. And I was reading your op ed here, and you sent a letter to J.B. pritzker with 11 questions. And he's, I believe, still not gotten back to you, it sounds like. But you write in here, the pain our family has experienced in the last 12 plus months since Katie's death is beyond description. I wish I could explain it to people. The pain is so unbearable at times, it has me almost unable to function. I am haunted by the knowledge that I will never walk my daughter down the aisle. I'll never hold her children. I'll never see her again. I would give anything, anything in the rest of my days for just one more hour with her. Very emotional to read that. Compare what you've seen from the state of Illinois and President Trump in that ceremony yesterday. Two minutes left here.

[Joe Abraham]

Oh, you can't even, you can't even believe the difference. You know, JB Pritzker loves to talk about Donald Trump being authoritarian, this, that and the other. If, if. My firsthand experience is Donald Trump has welcomed us to the White House more than once, has looked me in the eye, father to father and said, this has been a mess. We're going to clean it up. And JB Pritzker, compare him, ignored us. I was in the same committee room as he was, just 10ft away from him for eight hours. Didn't say what, didn't even look in my direction. He doesn't even probably know who I am, nor does he care. Jan Schakowski, another woman who, who now is picking her successor. This Daniel Bis guy from Evanston. And you should see Evanston. It's like Chicago Junior and apparently there's no kings. But in Illinois, you can decide to who you're going to appoint to take over your seat. So she's walking by me as if I wasn't there. So there was not one Democrat who would talk to me. And this state is all in Illinois, is all run by Democrats. So I need to talk to them. That's who's running this thing. And not one would talk to me. So look at the difference there. This guy is not compassionate. JB Pritzker. He's not a caring man. He is someone who's aloof. He's arrogant. And somehow I think he doesn't, you know, need the voters. He certainly doesn't. He's not accountable to the voters. He's to me, I think, you know, people are leaving Illinois in droves and he's backfilling them with this free for all immigration policy because I think he needs warm bodies. Here's what I suspect, and I can tell you a story on that too, if you'd like. I wonder how many ballots are tied to these illegal alien bodies. That's why I think he's arrogant and doesn't really need to answer to the voters.

[Andrew]

No, I think that that's, I think a lot of us suspect the same and we obviously see it because it ends up in the census data, it ends up in electoral college votes, it ends up in congressional apportionment. So whether or not there's ballot to ballot, illegal voting, it's still power that is being given to Democrats one way or the other. Joe, thank you so much for making the time. I know you've got travel and you wedged this dent. You wedged us in today. So I'm grateful to you. I'm grateful for you standing up for your daughter, for angel families all over the country, for being bold and courageous. Thank you so much and I'm so sorry for your loss.

[Joe Abraham]

I appreciate you guys.

[Andrew]

Thank you.

[Joe Abraham]

Keep up the hard work. Thanks so much.

[Andrew]

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[Joe Abraham]

Alright.

[Andrew]

It's been kind of a heavy show, Blake and I think we need to cleanse the palate here and talk about some good things. All right, so another judge ruling, ruling came down a motion. It basically suffice to say that they denied the defense's motion and the death penalty is still very much in place and on track in this case. So that's one good news. Second good news. Erica Kirk, it has just been announced will be at the State of the Union tonight. It's public, public information now. President Trump has invited her personally and she will be attending. So that's going all over the Internet right now, which is great. And we have a hockey story that I'm gonna hit. But Blake, you have a very, very good white pill.

[Blake]

Andrew, you can hit your party boy thing. I want a white pill for the whole for America and a big picture I want to highlight flag this big article. Well, not a big article. They're always short on Axios. Axios has an article this morning with a very sinister sounding title, Inside Trump's purge of U.S. immigration courts. You read it. Here's what the purge is. For literally decades, we've gradually built up this incredibly long backlog of cases in our immigration courts, which is obviously deliberate. While you're waiting for your day in court, you of course have the right to just live in America, do whatever you want, work in America. And the Biden administration sent that into overdrive. They were giving people court dates, two years, three years, I believe in one case, a court date 10 years out, and then releasing people into the country. And I know people are sometimes frustrated that things feel like they're going slow in the Trump administration or that things, you know, it'll be two steps forward, one step back. But this is a great example of how in the background, they're getting the job done. Uh, they've hired, they're hiring dozens of new immigration judges, and they've been training them up. And apparently this month is when they're finally getting into action. And that's important because as is already in the past year, the backlog of cases, the, the total number of cases they have to process has fallen by 341,000. And this next year, maybe that'll be half a million, 600, a million. And that's really important because when you adjudicate those cases, it goes really fast. Almost all of these you can handle in a matter of hours, if not, if not less. And once you're doing that, that is what allows ICE to just go and say, oh, you have an order of removal. We're taking you, getting you out of the country.

[Andrew]

Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

[Blake]

You make it so much easier for ICE to just grab people, get them out. And it's so great. Here they just have these quotes where, like, you know, they put this guy, Darren Margolin, in charge of training up the new hires. He was an immigration judge and he quit in 2024 because he said, quote, I felt like a co conspirator in treason regarding the Biden administration's policies. Now he is taking leadership of the Executive Office of Immigration Review, and he is ramming this through. So I wanted to flag that for people to show there are stories that are not getting front page headlines, they're not getting covered on cnn, that we are getting the work done for mass deportations in the years to come. You just purge those cases, get it done. That's a big white pill for today.

[Andrew]

That's a White pill. I love the white. I love white pill Blake. It's my favorite. Blake. And so when he comes up with these ideas, I'm like, we're gonna find time in the show, Blake. It's perfect. So I love that. And I'm a big immigration hawk, so God bless that. I love how the Axios calls it purge. What a joke. Okay, guys. Alright, so here's my. Here's my white pill of the day. The US Men's hockey team is back on US Soil. They are still patriots. They're still sounding like the perfect note. And they had to get rerouted to Miami because of the weather in the northern part of the country. Well, and so what do you do when you're in Miami now? There's a lot of people, oh, you shouldn't be partying. It's like, okay, loosen up. They just won the gold medal. They're. They're out in, you know, a town known for having a nightlife. Okay. And they're. Everybody's filming them. And guess what? They're still singing God bless the USA. So here's 378 of the US men's hockey team in Miami last night singing God bless USA. 378, Sam. I love it. What do you guys think in the chats? Send us an email. Freedom charliekirk.com do you love this? Do you love this proud, exuberant patriotism from Team USA after they won the gold? I personally love it. I don't have a problem with Cash Patel enjoying the moment with them either. They invited him in. I think everybody needs to loosen up, have a moment of just pure, unadulterated national pride and relax. Like, stop being a hater. This is great. You may not like that take. I like it. I think it's great. And by the way, here's the other thing I'd say, Blake, here's. Here's the thing I would say. You know what they don't love? They don't love masculinity. They don't like an FBI director, like, pounding his chest, pound on the table, throwing back a beer. Okay, maybe you don't drink. That's fine. Charlie didn't drink. I get it. But listen, adults sometimes have a beer, especially after a huge win. They don't like the men's hockey team losing teeth and then draping themselves in the American flag and then going to a club in Miami because they get rerouted to a warmer climate with the Northwestern coming in. I'm telling you, what they really have a problem with is Unabashed masculine energy. Victory. We're not apologizing for it. And here's what else is great. President Trump promised and he delivered. 405. This is the men's hockey team getting picked up by the president for the State of the Union tonight. 405 at Miami International Airport. This is where Team USA men's hockey

[Benny Ray Harmony]

team is on US Air Force 757 plane.

[Andrew]

This after landing here in South Florida.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

This is where they, of course, celebrated

[Andrew]

their Olympic gold medal. A plane headed to Washington, D.C. we

[Blake]

know the team potentially could make an

[Andrew]

appearance tonight at the State of the Union address.

[Chip Roy]

All right.

[Blake]

But Andrew, that's great.

[Andrew]

Potentially.

[Blake]

Andrew, I've got something great for you. The real reason this is amazing is because hockey liberals are a real thing. Apparently. There's thousands of them and they're absolutely flipping out. I wanted to flag this. Some guy with a trans flag on X. He posted personal. It's a scary time on hockey Twitter right now. We can't become hopeless. And the article is titled don't let them effing take it from you. They are in full meltdown. So I can agree with you. This is a great celebration.

[Andrew]

You just had to bring us down with that. I love it. Everything's political now. Kane, Citizen Kane joins us next. Don't go anywhere.

[Joe Abraham]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Apart from the annual State of the Union luncheon which should be wrapping up right about now, President Trump's focus today is on tonight's big speech. Expect to be expected to be longer than usual. As the commander in chief says there's a lot to talk about. Raft congressional correspondent Benny Ray Harmony joining us live from the White House in advance of the State of the Union. What's the mood there at the White House, Benny Ray?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Yeah, Terrence, this State of the Union is going to be America at 250. This is the big theme that the White House has confirmed. Lots of people around the press briefing room today, they're making wagers. Is it going to be economy? Is it going to be immigration? What is going to be that main focal point of President Trump's speech tonight? Now, Terrence, President Trump, he does hold the longest ever State of the Union at an hour and 39 minutes of nonstop talking. He took that from Bill Clinton last year. And like you said, he mentioned yesterday that it's going to be a long one. He said, I we have a lot to talk about. So get ready. Now. We have seen about a dozen Democrat lawmakers have said they will not be in attendance. Instead they will be over here at the National Mall protesting. So you know, one of the things I was talking to a colleague this morning, Terrence, is that President Trump is very unpredictable. We can make all the predictions that we want and he will probably do a complete360u turn on us. So but JD Vance did say over the weekend that expect lots of economy conversation, manufacturing jobs as well as how we can bring those energy prices prices down. And then one other thing to point out that partial government shutdown is still underway with DHS not being funded and Secret Service not being funded. So going to be a very interesting one, Terrence.

[Joe Abraham]

Absolutely. The president has a lot to talk about as he alluded to. My wager is it's going to go about two hours so he probably will set another record. That's just my wager. We shall see. Also some interesting guests, Benny Ray, that will be there. I'm looking forward to the Olympic hockey team, the men's gold medal winning team who will also be in attendance today. So it should be a pretty interesting state of the union. Benny Ray, always good to talk to you. We'll probably talk tomorrow and get a breakdown of the President's speech. That's going to do it for us here.

[Andrew]

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[Kane]

Yeah, those are good questions. You know me, dude. I want to hear about the national debt. I'd love to hear Trump talk about a spending freeze. When you watch Trump every day and have to sort of because of your job, watch all the press conferences like you guys do, like I do, you know, you hear a lot of the same themes repeated. And so I'm a little bit fearful that, you know, as a junkie, that I will have heard everything that Trump's gonna talk about tonight in terms of emphasizing how the economy is better than people say, et cetera, et cetera. But you know me, you know, the stack, you saw it yesterday, two headlines in green italics that where I linked to Scott Bessant when he was on Maria Bartiromo's show on Sunday morning talking about the national debt. So I would love, you know, that is the part of what I hope for in, in, you know, in Trump 2.0 is, is having, you know, control of both Congresses, that maybe we could finally realistically take a look at the big three programs of Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, get those, start getting the conversations going about how to fix those programs. And also. Well, and I threw it in as my second headline, as a message, message to Trump yesterday, specifically to him, because I know he reads the site that, you know, that make that. Make this his legacy, make, you know, fixing the national debt his legacy. And so that's what I'd like to hear.

[Andrew]

Well, you know, Charlie, the first clips that you'll see of Charlie on tv, it was all about the national debt. He was obsessed with it and remained obsessed with it. He was a fiscal hawk his whole life. And, you know, I would say. I would say that a balanced budget. Blake is skeptical. I know, I know Blake's skeptical. But a balanced budget would be a massive, massive accomplishment. I totally agree.

[Blake]

It absolutely.

[Andrew]

Go ahead.

[Blake]

I'm just, I think a way that he could maybe at least gesture towards that. The past six months, we've had story after story of massive fraud in government, a massive fraud of federal programs, programs, Medicaid, every federal program getting looted in Minnesota, in Maine, in Washington, in California. I think if you made that a big theme of his address about, oh, we're going to have a detailed auditing task force that will identify, arrest, stop the fraud, deport the people committing it, I think that would be a good way to at least make gestures towards the debt. Even if I'm skeptical this administration is ready to. They're not going to. I don't think they're going to take big steps on Social Security or any of those big items.

[Andrew]

Well, well, you know, I go back to Cain, and you're a financial guy. People don't know that your background is in finance. But the tweet from Mark Halperin that we actually made a lot of, we actually had Mark Halpern on the show to talk about it. Apparently, Fabrizio, one of the main pollsters for President Trump, did a whole presentation and he outlined these sort of, I would call them populist economic wins and how to message, how to get through. Because this sticky issue of the economy, people still don't feel the momentum. I mean, they came out, we're coming out of four years of Biden inflation, and they're still not feeling that relief. So Fabrizio's got these ideas of, like, you know, ban stock trading for Congress, right? You get these scalps, these actionable wins that would start kind of piercing the noise and getting into the population, the voting population. What do you think about the economic messaging, Kane, specifically tonight?

[Kane]

Yeah, well, I read that Fabrizio stuff last week, and it was, it was good. And he makes A good point about getting some wins. Getting to what Blake said. He, Blake is right. Fraud beating fraud polls really, really well. Mark Mitchell Rasmussen has sort of talked about it. He had a piece up talking about how Trump was doing the best, actually doing the best poll wise when Doge was in the, was, Doge was in the news. And then, you know, that maybe the missed opportunity in Minnesota was instead of concentrating on the, on the deportation and the ICE part, maybe concentrating more on the fraud part because all, you know, a lot more of America can get behind the fraud stuff in terms of, you know, a bold move towards Social Security, which Blake also mentioned. Yeah, I don't expect that. I just want the conversations to start, you know, let's start talking about how we slowly raise the retirement age from 67 to 70 over 30 years. You know, nothing quick, you know, so the people don't freak out. Another, you know, a thought I have about why people don't really feel the economy getting better is to be honest, it's, it's interest rates. I've got my neighbors across the street who are stuck in their house. They, they're the greatest people. They've got four amazing young athletes under 10. They homeschool these kids and they're stuck in this tiny lot. Why? Because of interest rates. Their home's a 3% loan. And, and so anyway, I think that'll be huge. I put a headline in and today about Austan Goolsbee, who used to be Obama's economic guru, about how he's still saying he won't lower rates. Thank goodness Kevin Warsh will be able to. And by the way, I watch CNBC on mute most of the day and the 30 year mortgage has finally dipped under 6%. It's 5.99. Now granted, that's still big, those are still a big number compared to three and the three and a half percent. But it's going to get better and I think that'll help.

[Andrew]

Well, on that note, there was a story out of Fox Business this morning that the purchasing power of home buyers is up over $30,000 under Trump, partly because of interest rates, but also partly because of rising incomes. And so as those interest rates continue to tick down, people are going to experience a little bit more flexibility. It's the, you know, I think the Zillow quote in there was it's the difference in between having to settle and being able to actually choose a home you want to live in. So it makes a huge, huge difference for home buyers just to have even 30, $50,000, more money on the table to be able to buy a home. So good. But continue, you were, you were going, well, whatever.

[Kane]

I think that's going to help. I really think that'll help people's, you know, sentiment towards the economy. And look, I think that, you know, I think Trump is doing okay. I pay attention to Rasmussen approval. I don't really, I mean, I look at all the other approval numbers that come out, but I really pay attention to Rasmussen's Daily Tracker. And, you know, Trump, slash Republican. Let's say it's J.D. vance in three years or in two years, you know, he can win. We can pull it off in these numbers. You guys know that I'm not super optimistic about the midterms, right? Because what did, how many did Trump lose in 2018? He lost almost 40 seats or he did lose 40 seats in the House. So the House is going to be very tough. I think we hold the Senate just because of the numbers. And, you know, it's so vital for our movement, so vital that we, that, you know, that we win in 2028, that JB wins. And the last thing I'll say before I throw it back, I thought it was a great discussion on that Atlantic article that you guys had that, you know, that if I have that in the stack from yesterday, if you care about America, you're obviously a Nazi. Like, that's how far, you know, that's just, it's just such ridiculous tribe from the Democrats. I hate these people. Anyway.

[Andrew]

Well, okay, since you kind of brought it up. And then, by the way, Huffington Post said, if you're feeling uncomfortable being patriotic, you're not alone. But we got to hit Don Lamond. It's one of our favorite things to do on this show. He's going after the hockey teams here, 369.

[Don Lamond]

Look, I don't understand why anyone would be want to be in the vicinity of this president at all. Just being honest. If they called on the phone call, I would say no thank, no thanks. I don't. Do you want to take the call? No. Tell them to call someone else. I'm not interested in being part of this. I'm not interested in being part of this. When he doesn't, he is not a patriot and he doesn't care about this country. He doesn't care about the people of this country. He certainly doesn't. If you look at the citizens who are being rounded up, if you look at what he's doing to the economy, what he's done to health care, he doesn't care about this country, so why should I be smiling and kicking? No, not interested. I'll go party and celebrate somewhere else. I'll wait till I get home to go and party and celebrate with my family and maybe like a real president. Maybe we'll, maybe one day Barack Obama will come to our game.

[Andrew]

Oh, of course, of course. Barack Obama. By the way, that's a 60 year old man talking like a little petulant child. Kane, 30 seconds. Your reaction to Don Lamont.

[Kane]

He's about as popular as month old convenience store sushi. I don't know, dude. I mean, by the way, there's some awesome, there's some awesome hilarious videos about, about Don Lamont on Twitter going back about 10 years. Excuse me, on YouTube. Whatever. The guy's irrelevant. He speaks to his audience. You know, he's, he's there for our outrage. Just whatever. He, you know, he got fired from cnn. Sorry, dude.

[Andrew]

Like,

[Kane]

not a fan.

[Andrew]

It's just, it's really, it's, it's really a shame that we can't have bipartisan patriotism anymore. It's just a shame. It's a shame what they've done to the country.

[Kane]

It's the disease, right? It's the Trump brain worm. So whatever.

[Andrew]

Yeah. All right. More with Citizen Kane from Citizen Free Press on next. We're going to keep going with the man, the myth, the legend himself. I'm going to tell you guys about Strong Cell. If you've been a faithful Kirk podcast listener for any amount of time, then you've already heard about Strong Cell, which is one of Charlie's favorite supplements. And if you deal with fog, fatigue, lack of energy or even constant illness, then you have to try strongcel telling you give it four to six weeks, four to six weeks and you are going to notice a massive, massive improvement. At least that's been my experience. So it's my go to every day. I again forgot to take it on this trip. Blake can enjoy it in the comfort of the Bitcoin.com studio. I know you got to do it. You got to do it. They have a proprietary delivery of an amazing enzyme called nadh. Go ahead, Blake, do it it. I already took it last hour when

[Blake]

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[Kane]

Show it.

[Andrew]

I don't want to. I don't want to divulge too much here.

[Kane]

Show it. Show it.

[Andrew]

Well, I gotta pull it up now. I. Listen, I'll pull it up right out. But here's. While we're doing this. Okay, hold on. I got it. I got it. We'll get it up just for you. Katie.

[Kane]

It's gonna be nine. Nine years on May 1st for this website. And running this website. I didn't realize that when I showed up in Detroit last summer, I lost like 20 pounds slowly by just basic attrition. Because, you know, you. Let's say you wake up in the morning and you think, do I need food or do I need to check the headlines? And when your office is like 14ft away from your bed, like, you end up in the office. And then. And then.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Kane]

You work until. There you go. There's the front yard.

[Andrew]

Yeah. After a while.

[Kane]

Go ahead.

[Andrew]

That's a beard. That's a beard. Kate, I think you have an oddly shaped beard. I appreciate it.

[Chip Roy]

It's.

[Andrew]

It's powerful. You're a man possessed.

[Chip Roy]

Yeah.

[Kane]

Thank you. Yes. So that's. My weight is back up. People will be happy to know that the last year and a half, I've been getting back in the gym three, four days a week. I sneak out of the CFP headquarters, get in the gym. You know, that beer is why I never appear on camera for the. You know, I don't even get showers until like 5 or 6 o' clock at night. Because, listen, you wake up. I don't want to say I wake up in a panic every morning, but you sort of wake up and you know that like you missed headlines during the six hours while you sleep.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Listen, can. You got to take care of your health. And you got each other. Charlie was always big on the health. And personal hygiene is also very important. Okay. Two elephants in the room at the State of the Union. Kane, that's Iran in the Epstein files. What do you make of both? Especially Iran? What are you seeing from CFP Nation? Especially on Iran?

[Kane]

Well, yeah, that's a good question about what the people think. Obviously. A huge part of the America first thing is not to want to get involved in foreign wars. So there's a natural trepidation that exists and that's there, but at the same time, it's a trust. You know, there's a trust Trump vibe. People really do trust him. Look, remember when in Trump 1.0, when he sent cruise missiles into Syria and people freaked out for 24 hours. Oh, my God. And that's all it was, was, was a short little Reagan burst that people, you guys aren't old enough. But Reagan took care of Gaddafi with some cruise missiles in the 80s. I remember it. And it was just 12 hours of bombing. And we got our point across. So anyway, people trust Trump. So I don't think that people are radically freaked out, if you're asking. I've had a lot of people sort of ask me, what are the odds? What do I see happening there? Look, I would say that Iran has been given fair warning. You know, Trump doesn't. Trump is well aware of that, of that, what they say about him on Wall street, the cop, the taco trade, and. And when it comes to these foreign policy things, Trump doesn't fool around. So I think Iran bet, you know, I put it in the stack yesterday. There's going to be meetings in Geneva, I think, on Thursday. Iran supposedly has a new proposal on getting rid of nukes, but if they don't do it, you know, Trump, this will be the last thing I'll say. You know, there was that Axio story yesterday that said that Trump's biggest, you know, his top general, Raisin Cain, maybe was showing a little bit of caution about bombing in Iran. And then Trump himself almost immediately put out a long message on Truth Social that you alerted me to, by the way, Andrew. And I hadn't seen Trump's response to that. And that was important. I think, you know, you can, you can figure out a lot by seeing how Trump is reacting to certain stories. So. So the fact that he said that, no, that raising Cain really wasn't worried and that Axios got the story wrong, I think it tells you that Iran should be worried, that the mullahs should be worried. And then I'll quickly say on Epstein, well, go ahead. If you want to respond on that, go ahead.

[Andrew]

Well, yeah, I'm going to respond on that. Just quickly, I got asked by Politico about people invoking Charlie's name with this Iran strike. And I was very clear with him. I said, yeah, Charlie was America first to his core. He wanted a nation build in America, he didn't want foreign adventurism, none of it. But when it came to the first Iran strike, you heard a lot more chatter. There was a lot more people getting up in arms about it. And Charlie stood the course. He was adamant. Hey, we do not want foreign adventurism. We do not want nation building abroad. We want nation building here at home. But at the end of the day, this is why we elected President Trump to lead the military, to lead this nation. At some point, you have to say, this is their job. They need to do the best they can. They need to make the best decisions they can. And I think you're seeing that after Venezuela, which was incredible by any metric, what they did in Iran the first time. I think people understand Trump is a high violence, precision attack kind of guy when it comes to kinetic warfare. Now, do we want to avoid, you know, a regime change, drawn out conflict? Absolutely. Can they do that here? Question remains, we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. And I think Blake made a good point yesterday when he said that, you know, we haven't really been sold on the case for this conflict yet either. Blake, I don't know if you have any thoughts there, because you're great on this stuff.

[Blake]

Yeah, I think, honestly, if they need to make a case, State of the Union is as good a time as any. But I think as things stand out, I think this is what Charlie would be most frustrated about, is if you are, are going to launch a regime change war, which I think at this point, strikes of the magnitude they seem to be planning would have to be. You need to be able to, in, you know, a handful of sentences, say why this is invaluable for America's national interests and national security. And right now, I think if it were to happen, I think people would just be confused and they would say, why now? Why not a month ago? Why not last summer? Why not 10 years ago? What is special about this moment? And at that point, you're just banking on if it's super successful, that justifies itself. If it's super successful and there are no American deaths, then that's great. But if there's any casualties at all, that's where the lack of a clear explanation becomes a big albatross.

[Andrew]

Absolutely, I agree with that. And Kane, we're running out of time here. 30 seconds on Epstein.

[Kane]

All right, well, I wanted to respond a bit on the Iran thing. The Epstein.

[Andrew]

Okay, hit Iran.

[Kane]

All right.

[Andrew]

Or not.

[Kane]

Whatever these are, these are difficult decisions.

[Chip Roy]

Right.

[Kane]

I don't none of us envy the president having to make these very difficult decisions. But regime change through airstrikes is not easy. You have The Ayatollah hiding 300ft underground in bunkers, so you don't even know that a certain amount of bombing is going to get rid of those them. And then you have to deal with the fact that there are hundreds of other mullahs to replace them. I mean, Iran is a fully structured theocracy now after 40 years. And it's not, you know, just getting rid of the ayatollah or a few others won't necessarily lead. So these are all difficult decisions. But we trust in President Trump, and I think the base completely trusts him. As you said, eloquently. He's earned this trust.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Well said. And by the way, today at 3:00pm CIA Director John Ratcliffe is set to join Secretary of State Marco Rubio for a classified brief living on Iran. All right, Kane, well done, my friend. Blake, well done in Phoenix. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Tonight's State of the Union, and we'll be streaming it on Charlie Kirk show channels. Check us out there. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.