The Charlie Kirk Show, February 27, 2026

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The Charlie Kirk Show – Real America’s Voice

Episode Date: February 27, 2026
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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show on Real America’s Voice covers current cultural, political, and news events—anchored by the ethos of defending traditional American values. Major themes include ongoing investigations into the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein, the U.S. response to international crises, moral concerns over euthanasia and declining birth rates, internal problems in American institutions (Boy Scouts, the church), and grassroots strategies for civic engagement. The panel fielded live Q&A, exemplifying their mission to challenge prevailing mainstream narratives and inspire listeners toward action and faith.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein-Clinton Investigation & Political Accountability

• Bill Clinton’s Testimony: The show opens with developments about Bill Clinton testifying (behind closed doors) regarding his connections with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

  • Notable Data: Clinton visited the White House 17 times with Epstein present and flew on Epstein’s plane at least 27 times. (06:22)
  • Hillary Clinton’s Deposition: Repeatedly deferred questions on the Clinton Global Initiative-Epstein connections to her husband, remarking "you’ll have to ask my husband" more than a dozen times.

    “If you really have specific questions about the Clinton Global Initiative or the relationship between the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, you got to ask Bill Clinton.” – Charlie Kirk (09:29)

• Panel Reflection: The hosts criticize both Clintons’ evasiveness and the lack of transparency, stressing bipartisan accountability for high-level misconduct.

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2. U.S.-Iran Tensions & International Uncertainty

• On the Brink of Conflict: Panelists discuss the volatility surrounding potential U.S. military action against Iran as evacuation orders begin and China withdraws its citizens from the region.

  “It could be the last-minute brinkmanship before some deal is reached and it all pulls back or...the decision might be made. But for now, we don’t know.” – Blake (08:02)

• Emphasis: The hosts vow to shift coverage immediately if a major international crisis erupts during the broadcast.

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3. “Culture of Death”: Declining Birth Rate & Canada’s Euthanasia Laws

• Plunging Birth Rates: Citing a New York Times headline, the panel laments America’s drastically declining birth rate and growing childlessness, especially among young women.
• Canadian MAiD Law:
  • Fast-Track Assisted Suicide: Coverage of “Medical Assistance in Dying” (MAiD) in Ontario, where 65 individuals were approved for euthanasia the same day they applied.
  • Worrisome Incidents: Accounts such as the involuntary death of "Mrs. B" (who tried to withdraw consent but was euthanized regardless) and the assisted suicide of a 26-year-old with mental illness.

    “That is a death cult. When somebody who wants to live is unable to live because the doctors and a family member basically murdered her...” – Andrew Torba (13:08)

  • Extension to Non-terminal Sufferers: Concern that euthanasia eligibility creeps to include disabled or depressed individuals, and the danger of bureaucratic indifference.

Connection to Birth Rate

• Philosophical Link: The panel ties the normalization of euthanasia and declining birth rates to a societal nihilism:

  “This desire to have no children...to perpetuate adolescence, and then simultaneously at the end of life, to rush into suicide...Every horror story about assisted suicide...has already happened.” – Blake (14:06)

• Panel’s Cultural Diagnosis: Such policies undermine the very foundations of civilization and “the will to live and build.”

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4. Decline of the Boy Scouts & Traditional Institutions

• Recent News: After years of “going woke” — admitting girls, DEI initiatives — Boy Scouts (now “Scouting America”) has seen membership plummet from 10 million boys in 1970 to under 1 million in 2026.

• New Reforms: Pete Hegseth’s announced reforms ban DEI, return to single-sex scouting, and introduce new military service merit badges (46:06).

  “There should be Girl Scouts and there should be Boy Scouts...There is no more effective, powerful force on the planet than a well-formed, matured...male man.” – Andrew Torba (48:49)

• Broader Meaning: The Scouts’ decline is characterized as both cause and symptom of America’s broader loss of cultural cohesion and traditional values.

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5. Grassroots Activism, Church, & Civic Engagement

• “Ask Us Anything” Segments: The second hour features audience Q&A, diving into strategies for effective local activism and defending faith-based principles.

• Reviving the Church:

  • Problem: Churches failing to retain young people, as many pastors avoid tough cultural issues for fear of controversy.
  • Solution:

    “Weak pulpits create weak Christians. Scary preachers create scary sheep...We need pastors willing to be bludgeoned, to be crucified afresh because of what they stand for.” – Pastor John Amachukwu (64:40)

• Scriptural Guidance for Resistance: The panel discusses biblical grounds for opposing unjust laws, particularly when government actions contravene faith or natural law (74:41).

  “Here in America, we the people are the authority...honoring those in authority is different in our country.” – Mikey McCoy (76:46)

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6. Panel Guest: Brandon Herrera (TX-23 Congressional Candidate)

• Herrera’s Congressional Run: Gun rights YouTuber and Second Amendment advocate shares his reasons for challenging incumbent Tony Gonzales, focusing on border security and “RINO” voting records (31:32).
• Campaign Scandal: Describes controversy involving disgraced Congressman Gonzalez, including an alleged extramarital affair with a staffer who committed suicide (32:56).
• District Concerns: Expresses the need for codified border policy and worries over the ease by which executive orders can dismantle hard-won gains (38:33).
• Call to Action: Encourages voter turnout among Texas conservatives before the March 3rd primary.

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7. Faith, Meaning, and “Culture Wars”

• Fulfillment & Family:

  “Kids are largely presented as a burden, not a blessing...people that live the most joyful and deepest lives tend to have kids.” – Charlie Kirk (23:36)

• Statistical Happiness: Married mothers have the highest reported happiness—a point made to counter mainstream media narratives glorifying childlessness.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bill and Hillary Clinton:

  "The number of times that she said, 'I don’t know, you’ll have to ask my husband' was more than a dozen." – Charlie Kirk (09:29)

• On Assisted Suicide:

  "If you have socialized medicine, this is how you look at it—they’re consuming resources...so why not just help them do it earlier?" – Andrew Torba (22:09) "Strong cell. Got mine right here. Blake’s got his there. Oh, your lid’s already—" – Andrew Torba (16:04) [Laughter about supplements amid somber news, keeping informal tone.]

• On Cultural Revival:

  "Boldness means freedom of speech...when a preacher preaches the whole counsel of God...that’s freedom of speech. When he holds back truth, it’s not." – Pastor John Amachukwu (79:13)

• On Resisting Political Violence:

  “Do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” – Andrew Torba quoting Matthew 10:28 (85:43)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:22–06:16]: Overview of Clinton/Epstein investigation, context for upcoming testimonies
• [07:37–09:49]: Panel reactions to sealed hearings, Hillary’s testimony under scrutiny
• [11:37–15:10]: Declining birthrate headlines, Canadian euthanasia (MAiD), and ethical alarms
• [21:40–23:56]: Panel critiques on the unintended consequences and expansions of assisted suicide
• [23:36–26:43]: New York Times stats, culture of family and fulfillment, rebuke of childless/hedonistic narratives
• [30:04–39:41]: Interview with Brandon Herrera, TX-23, detailing campaign, district issues, and current scandal
• [42:55–48:49]: Decline and partial reform of Boy Scouts, DEI and single-sex institutions
• [56:30–64:46]: Hour two; Ask Us Anything—faith, church, and cultural engagement
• [74:41–79:57]: Resistance to unjust laws, biblical grounding for civil disobedience
• [82:34–86:59]: Handling escalating political violence while keeping biblical values
• [90:20–94:32]: Youth activism in Canada, advice for conservative engagement in hostile climates

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Conclusion

This episode blends hard-hitting political analysis, cultural criticism, and a passionate defense of traditionalist American and Judeo-Christian values. The hosts consistently call for courage and civic activism, whether confronting long-standing political scandals or contesting the rise of nihilistic trends in social policy. Through interviews, scripture, current events, and audience interaction, the podcast aims to offer a hub for listeners to find direction, community, and purpose in turbulent times.

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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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What happened to those individuals?

[Charlie Kirk]

Fired. Fired. Brought in. Polygraphed. Fired. Yes. Many of them. Out of that. That arm of the department that are in charge of security on laptops, phones, we have to sweep my office on a regular basis to make sure that there's not listening devices in it. I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had

[Andrew Torba]

any

[Charlie Kirk]

connection or communication with him. I knew Ghislaine Maxwell casually as an acquaintance, but whatever they asked me, I did my very best to respond. Hillary Clinton seemed to sort of throw Bill under the bus and said, go ask him. I was busy at the time. But, you know, the key here is that obviously Bill Clinton is not being accused of any crime here. What is sort of the modus operandi of the Clintons is to go into these depositions and to evade direct answers. But they're going to get specific questions about these emails in which Epstein is indicating that he was not only just a great contributor, but helped establish this initiative and help them help the Clintons in their efforts. And that was reinforced with the appearance of figures like Maxwell at the wedding of their daughter. So there's going to be a lot of questions along those lines. She was in the Senate at that time. She wasn't focused on it. You'll have to ask my husband. So a lot of the Clinton Global Initiative questions went unanswered because Ms. Clinton deferred to her husband. If you really have specific questions about the Clinton Global Initiative or the relationship between the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, you got to ask Bill Clinton. And that's a good. That's a great point. The number of times that she said, I don't know, you'll have to ask my husband was, was, you know, more than a dozen. And I'll, I'll put it like that if I can just hop in. Also, too, I think it's important to note that we have been working in a bipartisan fashion to make this as painless as possible for the people that we're bringing, but also to ensure that there's accountability and transparency. You will hear a lot of spin sometimes out of politicos in Washington, but the fact is, is that it's our goal and objective following this. And we also, too, did ask for follow up from the secretary on producing legislation that will help prevent this from ever happening again in the future. Obviously working to combat trafficking, which has been in a cause incredibly important, not just to myself.

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Explain to us specifically what you need

[Charlie Kirk]

to hear from President Clinton today.

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What do you want to know?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I think everyone's seen. There are a lot of photos that have been released by the Department of Justice as well as the Epstein estate. There are a lot of email correspondence that included President Clinton. We know President Clinton had. And Secretary Clinton confirmed this yesterday. Jeffrey Epstein was in the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. We know that Bill Clinton flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane at least 27 times. So those are questions that we're going to ask. Everything that most media outlets have reported with respect to pictures and correspondence between Epstein, Maxwell and Bill Clinton. These are all questions that we're going to ask today. Charlie, Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive.

[Brandon Herrera]

Fear not.

[Andrew Torba]

You found the place for truth.

[Charlie Kirk]

The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world.

[Andrew Torba]

This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Here we go.

[Andrew Torba]

All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show, February 27, 2026, here at the Bitcoin.com studio in Phoenix, Arizona. Blake, welcome.

[Blake]

Howdy. I feel like this is a day where we're almost. It almost feels annoying because it feels like we're on the cusp of very dramatic events or we can't see them. So Bill Clinton testifying on the Epstein probe, but it's behind closed doors. Can't watch it. Iran, we might bomb them any minute. We might have a war over the weekend. Apparently US Personnel are getting evacuated from

[Andrew Torba]

sites China just pulled their people out of. Iran.

[Blake]

Yeah. So a lot going on there. It could be the last minute brinkmanship before some deal is reached and it all pulls back or the decision might be made. But for now, we don't know.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, we don't know. There's a lot that we are paying attention to and watching. Obviously, if anything breaks in the midst of the show, we will move to it immediately. We've got stories we have to hit here in the first part of this hour. Then we're going to bring in Brandon Herrera, who's running for Congress in Texas at the middle of this hour. Then we have Pastor John Amonchukwu, Mikey McCoy. We're going to be doing Ask Us Anything Fridays so you can call in. Join us members.charliekirk.com members.charliekirk dot com if you want to take part in that and actually ask questions on the air. But first, let's just go over what happened yesterday really quick with Hillary Clinton. She was actually in New York testifying before James Comer's committee about Epstein. Everything seems to be about Epstein. Yesterday we talked a lot about it, debunking the NPR bombshell, which needed to be done. I noticed that a lot of news, more, let's just say broadcast news from primetime did that last night as well, following our lead. So I was glad to see that. But here, here's what I will say. Hillary Clinton basically threw President Clinton under the bus yesterday, 598.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you really have specific questions about the Clinton Global Initiative or the relationship between the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, you got to ask Bill Clinton. And that's a, that's a great point. The number of times that she said, I don't know, you'll have to ask my husband was, was, you know, more than a dozen.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. So basically, Frosty, you want to know the state of the Clinton marriage? That was probably a very good tell. Oh. So Bill Clinton has now come out with his statement. He said, good morning. Welcome to Chappaqua. I guess I'm here today for two reasons. The first is that I love my country. And America was built upon the idea that no person is above the law, even presidents, especially presidents. Democracy requires every person to play their part, blah, blah, blah. The second reason I'm here is that girls and women whose lives Jeffrey Epstein destroyed deserve not only justice, but healing. They've been waiting too long for both, though. My brief acquaintance with Epstein ended years before his brief acquaintance, before his crimes came to light. And though I never witnessed during our limited interactions, any indication of what was truly going on. I'm here to offer what little I know so that I might prevent anything like this from ever happening. I'll be blunt.

[Blake]

I don't think. I don't think. I think Bill Clinton is there because he loves his country. I think he's there because he loves young women, as we know with Bill Clinton.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. And then he kind of goes on, you know, he's just saying, I had, you know, I had no idea the crimes Epstein was committing. I know what I saw. I know what I didn't. As someone who grew up in a home with domestic abuse, not only would I not have flown on his plane if I had any inkling of what he was doing, I would have turned him in myself. All right, so that's going to be the tone today from Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton's got a lot of explaining to do. Lots of. Lots of explaining to do. We want to then transition over to this story. So we're going to watch that again. It's behind closed doors. Maybe there'll be a leaked. Leaked photo today. Maybe they'll have to.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see.

[Blake]

We'll see.

[Andrew Torba]

But the head line from the New York Times.

[Blake]

Yes, this is. So sometimes Charlie would like to take a step back and focus on this big picture cultural issues. And I think this is a great example of it. If you open newyorktimes.com at this moment, their lead story is not Iran. It's not Epstein. It's the American birth rate is plunging. Here's why. Some say that's a good thing. The political class is worried about the historic drop, but the biggest change is among the youngest women who are the least ready to have children. It's entirely embracing the culture. Like this call the culture of death, the culture of decline, the culture of no future. Because this article comes out simultaneously with another headline. And we'll talk about both. We have a story out of Canada with. It was a report from the. It was like the data chief of the Medical Assistance in Dying program for the province of Ontario. That's the largest province in Canada in 2023. So it's even worse now. In 2023, 65 people were able to kill themselves with the Medical Assistance and dying program on the same day they applied for it.

[Andrew Torba]

Exactly. So that's the big news. They get killed the same day that they applied for.

[Blake]

You apply to suicide and get it the same day.

[Andrew Torba]

Can we just stop on this acronym of maid.

[Blake]

Maid.

[Andrew Torba]

Medical Assistance in Dying. It's euthanasia. It's suicide. And the Canadian government, we've known this for a while, but this is what was crazy. Did you know that over 5% of deaths of all deaths in 2024 in Canada were maid deaths? That's again assisted suicide. And they call it health care now. What's also very creepy is there is a horrific case. The name, only name we have for this is Mrs. B. Who's tried to withdraw her maid request and it was overridden by family. So she didn't want to die. She changed her mind. She. She cited religious convictions and values for why she changed her mind. And then they did it anyways and they killed her. So that is a death cult. When somebody who wants to live is unable to live because the doctors and a family member basically murdered her. That's what that is, that's murder. It's not suicide. That's murder.

[Blake]

Exactly. No, it is. And these issues are so innately linked together. This desire to have no children, this desire to perpetuate adolescence, and then simultaneously at the end of life, to rush into suicide. Every horror story about assisted suicide that exists has already happened. Where people are pressured by family members into killing themselves because they're tired of taking care of them, where supposed health care workers are pressuring someone into suicide rather than providing them actual treatment for what they want. There are cases where people who are suffering from disabilities where they're basically told, yeah, we can't actually supply you with any normal treatments. But you know, there is, there's suicide if you want that, if you're feeling depressed about things. And they're endlessly expanding it. They're expanding it to teenagers, they're expanding it to people who only have psychological distress. And I suspect inevitably they'll extend it to using it involuntarily on people that they decide are not worth treating in any way.

[Andrew Torba]

And that, that is another story. There's an image of a. This New York Post has an image, this 26 year old that was killed because I guess he had mental illness and they killed him. He had mental illness. So instead of dealing with the mental illness, they killed him. Tell me that that makes any sense. His name was, by the way, I want to get his name. Keanu Vafaini's parents. And his parents accused authorities of failing to protect their son who was euthanized at 26 despite a history of mental illness. If we can put his picture up, I think that would be important. Death cult. I don't think any country will be blessed for embracing such despicable, disgusting ideas. It's Time for Strong cell. Got mine right here. Blake's got his there. Oh, your lids already.

[Blake]

Yeah, I get ready for these things.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

It's. It's such a dark thing like we always sympathize with people who are dying. But every incentive that legalizing assisted suicide creates is so profoundly negative for me. You're giving extra power to people who, I'll be frank, are often already inclined to feel they have godlike power over individuals. We again already have cases in other countries and I think in this country, but certainly in others where doctors decide I don't think this person's life is worth living. So I'm going to push suicide on them. I think that's the best outcome for them. Once you are creating a system where the medical, where the group of people who are supposed to treat illness have kill this person as a treatment. Shockingly, they decide in a lot of cases killing this person is easier than trying to cure them or help them.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, well. And again, when they first passed this law it was bad enough, but they mandated a minimum 10 day wait period. Now people are getting killed on the same day. Here's Charlie talking about medical assistance in death. 616.

[Charlie Kirk]

The biggest innovation in Canada right now is they become the most famously pro suicide country in the world. Not a joke. They have long wait for medical procedures, mass proliferation of drug usage. Except of course if you want to be able to use suicide suicidal drugs or suicide pods. They call it maid M A I D. Medical assistance in dying.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, it's pretty gross. And here's the sad part of this. You have a bunch of people that are sucking up resources. If you have socialized medicine, this is how you look at it. They're consuming resources. They are either terminally ill or they want to die and they're ready to die. And so why not just help them do it earlier? Because guess what, you'll, you'll save some money, you'll save some resources. That, I'm not saying that that is the major driving force. I think they've convinced themselves that this is compassion, this is health care. But you better believe it's at least one of the motivations.

[Blake]

It's sort of two things at once. It's one on the one hand, viewing people from the eyes of the state as purely like resource consumers who can be optimized out of things like oh, this person's, at the end of their life, they are useless. Discard them. And on the individual level, seeing life only as basically a hedonic exercise. So my life is not very enjoyable at this point, so I should just snuff it out at this moment. And that's why it does relate so directly to the children question as well. Because the same impulses that cause people to avoid having children to actively reject it, which the New York Times is celebrating, are the same impulses that drive them to kill themselves when their lives are painful towards the end. And I think Charlie observed that as well. We have a good clip of him just talking about the attitude towards children. Let's do 6:22.

[Charlie Kirk]

Kids are largely presented as a burden, not a blessing. The people that live the most joyful and deepest lives tend to have kids. And then a lot of kids that Their lives are harder, their lives are crazier. They're less about themselves, but they're deeper and more fulfilling.

[Andrew Torba]

So here's the New York Times bottom line. They say that over half of women, so they celebrate it because their main point is that there's less sort of teenage pregnancies. Okay, that's their top line. But their top line is that now over half of 30 year old women, almost half are childless. In 1976, that was just 18%. So at 30 years old, just 18% of women were in the America were childless.

[Blake]

And they have these quotes like, Hope Beshever is one of these women. She has a deep ambivalence about having children. She wants control over her life after a chaotic childhood. When she was 13, she had to care for her younger brothers, 2 and 4. And while her father, a corrections officer, worked. Sometimes I picture having a kid and I think of that overload. Two kids, both in diapers. Now 30, she is happily married and living in Denver. She works at a gym and says she is selfish with her time. And then she says, my husband and I, we like our peace.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, okay, so this is all garbage.

[Blake]

I'll let you go off on that.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, this is all garbage. So throw up that graph again. They actually put the graph up a little early. This is young. Married moms are the happiest. This is from the general social survey from 2018 to 2024. Married moms, 40%. And this is between ages 22 and 35 that are very happy. Married moms, 41%, by far the highest. Married and childless, also the next highest. Look who is very unhappy. Unmarried moms and unmarried childless. Okay? Those are the groups, the cohorts that are not happy. If you are a woman and your goal is to live a fulfilling life in a productive life and a happy life, guess what? The odds are very much more in your favor to be happy and fulfilled if you are married with children or if you are married and you don't have children.

[Mikey McCoy]

That's good.

[Blake]

Charlie would point out it's not even just about, oh, you're rahedonic happiness. Life is not about pleasure. Life is about fulfilling duties as well.

[Andrew Torba]

And well. But you won't. You will be happier. You will be happy. Duty and you're pursuing honor.

[Blake]

In the long run you will. But it's also just you have to say yes to your life is not, oh, I'm just going to have fun and do whatever I feel like and have no obligations. You increase the meaning and importance of your life when you embrace having obligations to other people. As Charlie would say, obligations to God, obligations to a spouse, and yes, obligations to the children you and your spouse have together. And it's a very bleak sign for our civilization if the New York Times is running out with this headline that just says, actually, everyone deciding to not have kids is a good thing. And yeah, maybe a half century from now no one will be around anymore. By then it's not our problem. We'll have killed ourselves.

[Andrew Torba]

We'll just import a bunch of foreigners. We'll replace you. Brandon Herrera joins us next.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

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[Brandon Herrera]

How's it going, brother?

[Blake]

That is quite the armory you've got behind you.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just wait till you see the other gun rooms.

[Blake]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew Torba]

Some guys, they have, you know, they have book collections, other guys have.

[Blake]

Yeah, I'm.

[Andrew Torba]

Collections. And then there's. Then there's this. That's impressive.

[Blake]

Just to tell people that is what you're known for. You're not just piling up a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're.

[Blake]

What's the name of your channel?

[Brandon Herrera]

So the channel is just. My name is just Brandon Herrera. So I've used that over the last few years to, well, not only just have fun with friends and blow stuff up on the Internet, which is, you know, my dream job, but also to kind of use that platform to teach people about firearm history, firearm engineering design. And usually that's a nice gateway drug into the importance of the Second Amendment and the importance of the Constitution.

[Blake]

You can tell that Brandon is entirely committed to the public interest because there is no other reason you would possibly step away from blowing stuff up on the Internet to try to enter Congress.

[Andrew Torba]

Right? You already have the dream job, Brandon. What the heck are you doing running for Congress? So your race has garnered national headlines in a big Way, I've always been a fan of yours, even when you were running last time. And genuinely, and listen, you're going up against Tony Gonzalez and he's come into some scrutiny. Why don't you tell the story from your perspective of what's going on and why you think you would be better, for sure.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, so when I initially decided to run last time, I just had an issue with Tony's voting record. I think he's a rhino. He voted to imprison President Trump. He voted against the Second Amendment for a Democrat gun control bill. He voted against the Fourth Amendment with wireless surveillance of American citizens, voted against border policy, which is crazy, in the biggest border district district in the entire country here at District 23. So I just had an issue with, with his voting record. And that's an issue that continued, I hope, when we, we lost the last election, we lost it in a runoff because he got below 50 in the primary. He lost it in a runoff by about 400 votes after outspending us 10 to 1. So I figured that that would be a message that, hey, maybe you need to fix your behavior. And unfortunately, it just didn't go through. So I jumped into the race a second time. And very shortly after, you know, the, the rumblings of this, the fair and everything started to hit. And just this last few weeks, it seems like the dam finally burst and people are finding out the truth about the kind of person that Tony Gonzalez is and why he needs to be replaced.

[Andrew Torba]

So the details of this case, I don't want to be salacious. I don't want to hurl unfounded accusations. You know, I, I, I just want to be respectful because a woman did take her life in this, in this instance. Would, would you walk us through what you know to be true?

[Brandon Herrera]

Sure, 100%. And, and, and, you know, a lot of people still say, you know, this is alleged, these are allegations. I, I'm not even willing to do that at this point because in my mind, from what I've seen and what I've seen proven this is 100% fact. Actually, during the last election, during the, the runoff election, probably like, I think maybe 20 to 30 days out from the, the runoff against me, he eng sexual behavior with a married female staffer. Him, of course, being a married father of six, this is completely unacceptable behavior, especially with a subordinate. But he, the text messages have been released now at this point where he was pressuring a staffer into a sexual relationship, and then, you know, the husband found out about it. It was a big ordeal and it. One thing led to another, and he essentially wrecked the home to the point where on September 13th of last year, she committed suicide via self immol. And it was pretty much swept under the rug. He tried to bury it. He would avoid journalists like the plague. He would run away from journalists, banned media from all of his events and wouldn't deny it until a couple months later when no evidence came forward, no hard evidence. Then he went to a journalist and said, oh, yeah, all of these rumors are untruthful, I believe is what he said, and just kind of swept it away and denied it. And of course, we knew that wasn't true. There's a lot of people, former staffers that were coming forward that were trying to say, hey, we know this is a lie. But nobody would go on the record until about a month ago when a staffer, a former staffer of his that worked with Regina Santos Aviguez, the staffer who killed herself, a staffer that worked with her very closely, came forward and he had text message receipts from Regina referencing the affair. He had personal allegories of accidentally facilitating extramarital behavior with their family cabin between Regina and Tony. And then Tony then smeared me and the staffers, saying, how dare I give a disgruntled former staffer a platform? Which I didn't. He went to the media. I didn't facilitate that at all.

[Andrew Torba]

He didn't.

[Brandon Herrera]

I didn't. I didn't say a word about it until after everything came out. The media. So it wasn't me giving him platform. He voluntarily went to media, but of course, it's my fault that he engages in the.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Of behavior.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then after that, after his denial, the husband came forward with verified, forensically, forensically proven text messages from Regina and Tony. And then now Tony's been caught in a lie, and I think his whole world's falling apart.

[Blake]

And speaking of accusations, I know in the past he's called you both an anarchist and a neo Nazi. Those seem contradictory accusations to me. Has he ever apologized for any of those attacks?

[Brandon Herrera]

No. No, he still hasn't. I was called a neo Nazi, a Klan member, an anarchist, and a California lover in the same campaign. California loving liberal.

[Andrew Torba]

Which is funny because he took a

[Brandon Herrera]

clip out of context from a podcast, right? Said he clipped it where I said California might be my favorite state in the country. And you just clipped that.

[Charlie Kirk]

The full.

[Brandon Herrera]

The full sentence was talking about how beautiful California beaches were. I said, you know, California might be my favorite state in the country if everybody who lived there didn't yeah, but,

[Andrew Torba]

yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure the exact. Well, Charlie loved Paradise.

[Blake]

Paradise and they ruined it.

[Andrew Torba]

I actually wrote an op ed for the California Post that ran on Sunday talking about how when I'd land in California with Charlie, he'd always go, this state is so beautiful. It's a shame what they did to it. Every time he would say something along those lines. All right, so, okay, let's get that story aside. It's horrible, by the way. I actually somehow missed the self immolation part of that story. And I have to just say this out loud. Obviously, extramarital affairs are awful on their face. To do it in a way in which you might have been using funding or abusing the office or whatever is also terrible. So I just want to say it sounds like if somebody's going to do that self immolate, then I got to believe there's underlying, like, stuff there with that person. I just want to say that out loud because you can't put that all on an affair, in my opinion. But again, I don't know the details. It wasn't there. But that strikes me as somebody with deeply serious mental problems or something. I don't know.

[Brandon Herrera]

But none of us could know the full situation at this point. The only person that, that could break this down objectively or give us the full story is no longer with us. But one thing I can say pretty confidently is that the affair and then all of the consequences of it were 100%. The domino that started everything cascading.

[Andrew Torba]

Got it. Okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

Apparently, in order to cover it up, he was then kind of blacklisted her and kind of pushed her out of the job. So she, she lost the two things that she cared about because of this affair. And that's all right.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, it's just an awful story. Yeah, Brandon, it's just an awful story. Thanks for walking us through it. So what, what's your vision for Texas? What's your vision as a congressman for sure?

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, there's a lot of things especially that are specific to this district. So District, District 23 goes from all the way from the west side of San Antonio to the east side of El Paso and everything in between. It's the biggest district in Texas and it's the biggest border district in the country. And so we need somebody who's going

[Andrew Torba]

to be firm on the border.

[Brandon Herrera]

Now, President Trump has done quite a lot to help solve the Biden border crisis. It's night and day compared to where it was two, three years ago. But a lot of that Stuff needs to be codified. We need to make sure the legislature actually passes bills that protect us because, you know, I hope we get 8 years of JD Vance after Trump is over. But, you know, the truth is, one of these days, we will have another Democrat in office. And if it was one stroke of a pen from President Trump to fix these things, it's one stroke of a penny away from being undone, and we cannot afford that as a country.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. One minute left. Brandon, how can people support you, get behind you? And what's the timeline right now for this race?

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, it's the last day of early voting here in Texas, and the actual election itself is on March 3rd. So the biggest thing is get out and vote turnout is going to be everything. It's the only way we're going to beat the Democrats in November. And it's the number one way that we're going to get people like Tony out of office in the primaries here. So if you want to check out the campaign, it's Brandon harrerforcongress.com But if you're out in Texas District 23, I would be honored to have your vote and give West Texas the conservative voice it deserves.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, man, keep, keep up the good work. You have been making waves. Like I said, I've been watching you from afar for, you know, in the first race. And you, you darn near pulled that thing off, too. I mean, you darn near did. And which is, which is a huge undertaking to take out an incumbent. It just is. It's a huge deal. So I think, I think this is going to be your year. And we're watching, you know, and keep shooting and blowing stuff up. Don't ever stop. You know what I mean?

[Brandon Herrera]

I appreciate it, brother.

[Andrew Torba]

All right, Brandon, thank you guys so

[Brandon Herrera]

much for having me on.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Charlie Kirk]

when I was diagnosed, all I wanted to do was get back to work. I wanted to get back to that trajectory that I was on prior to the cancer. I always felt like I had value. I had a place on the team to just be treated with dignity. It means everything. Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place for healing, learn more and sign the [e-mail].

[Andrew Torba]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, so big breaker this morning. It actually it struck close to the heart of this show because Charlie, as many of you know, was an Eagle Scout. A proud Eagle scout until they went woke and they went depressing all the way. They went all the way woke. Did you know that 11 of the 12 astronauts who walked on the moon were eagle Scouts?

[Blake]

I didn't know the exact number. I knew Armstrong was yeah, 11 of the 12.

[Andrew Torba]

So this was an institution in the country that trained young men in the way they should go. It actually honored God. It told them to honor God in country.

[Blake]

I could be an atheist and be a Boy Scout in good standing.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. So this was. And it gave them obviously outdoor skills and so much more character building. And then what did they do? They went woke. They did the DEI thing. They actually changed their name from Boy Scouts to Scouts of America. Because why now you have to let in girls now. There's actually really important psychology behind why that's bad.

[Blake]

You need male only institutions.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes, of courses. And why? Because imagine a guy, a young boy, in front of a bunch of other boys is going to try and fail and embarrass himself way more readily than if you put a bunch of girls in front of him. If the girls are watching, he's not going to want to make a fool of himself. He's not going to want to do a bunch of stuff.

[Blake]

When you take teenage boys and you insert women in there, instantly everything becomes about their relations with those women and they become much more likely to compete with each other rather than to cooperate with each other. Tons of psychological stuff goes into this.

[Andrew Torba]

Actually, Charlie, I didn't realize. Charlie. There's an old clip of Charlie. He's made my point. I just made 603 when I was

[Charlie Kirk]

13 years old and I was worrying about climbing a rock or starting a fire. If there were young ladies around, I would not have been climbing a rock

[Andrew Torba]

or starting a fire.

[Charlie Kirk]

I would have been much distracted and talking, trying to make, you know, trying to make myself more socially acceptable and so on and so forth. There's a lot of character development that happens between those critical ages and being around other young men that are going through the same problems and failing and taking risks, I think is something that has made the Boy Scouts so successful. And it's also those people that have studied gender exclusive education goes to show the exact same thing is that focus attention to detail, especially amongst those critical ages, is something that we should not sacrifice or remove from.

[Andrew Torba]

That's a throwback.

[Blake]

When I was 13 years, he looked 13.

[Andrew Torba]

I know.

[Blake]

That is classic Charlie. So the news, right on target.

[Andrew Torba]

Totally. Yeah, he was right on target. But you could tell he was younger. It was great. So the big news this morning is that Pete Hegseth, because you gotta understand the Boy Scouts and the Secretary of War or the Department of War, there's been a long running sort of kind of collaboration. You know, that's the pipeline for they

[Blake]

would do a Scout jamboree and it would be on a military base and there'd always be a lot of time

[Andrew Torba]

they meet on military bases. So Pete Hegseth gets in there and this was actually something that he told me about before he was even in that this was something that he wanted to focus on and fix. And he has news this morning.

[Charlie Kirk]

601 Scouting America agreed to make several key reforms. First, no more DEI 0. Scouting America will modify its policy to make clear that membership will be based solely on biological sex at birth and not gender identity. Scouting will also make clear that biological boys and girls will not be allowed to occupy or share intimate spaces together. Toilets, showers, tents, anywhere like that. Scouting America will honor those who serve by waiving the registration fees for children of active duty, guard and reserve families. In partnership with the War Department, Scouting America will introduce a new military service merit badge. These and other changes that Scouting America's leadership committed to will hopefully result in a rededication to the foundational ideals that have defined Scouting for generations. Duty to God and country, leadership, character and service.

[Andrew Torba]

It's.

[Blake]

It's so sad to read about it. I'm noting in the Department of War's announcement on this that membership dropped from. There were 10 million boys participating in the boy. In just the Boy Scouts. Only boys allowed in 1970. And that's with a significantly smaller population, maybe a similar number of like children of scouting age less than 1 million participating in 2026. And that's a big crash. Even a few years ago, there was so much more. The Mormon Church was very involved in scouts. They broke away because they started admitting girls. And I know a lot of other churches broke away.

[Andrew Torba]

That's the problem. The only problem, I will say, I mean, this is great work from Secretary Hegseth. A massive improvement, there's no doubt. But the real underlying issue here is that girls should do their own thing. This is why we have Girl Scouts. There should be Girl Scouts and there should be Boy Scouts. Yes.

[Blake]

And it's so sad to follow the decline of the Boy Scouts because it really, in my opinion, is. It's such a charter of the decline of America. When you look at Boy Scouts values as they were articulate even when I was in it just, you know, 20 years ago, it was such a perfect distillation of what you'd say are classic American values. Like, you should clearly be theist and let's be frank, it's a very generally kind of Judeo Christian outlook towards the world. Even if other religions are allowed in it's like American civic Christianity when there was just a sort of default, oh yeah, like this is a Christian country and it has Christian values and that's what it embodied along with serving your country, all this pro citizenship stuff and learn useful skills. We had an organization that tens of millions of boys went through that just taught you to love God, love your country and learn to learn how to do useful things, learn to be a man. And we it, they deliberately destroyed it over the course of decades precisely because it was something so good and so beautiful.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. There is a tendency in Western culture where the parasites, the horde of wokies or whatever and the liberal malaise will attack healthy hosts. And they do that because they're good. And you have to have a backbone. You have to have strength of your own convictions, the courage of your own convictions to stop the onslaught. You have to be able to defend the good, the true, the beautiful. You cannot let the horde of vipers and wokies in our era take down what is good. Ultimately, we have to be men, strong men willing to defend those institutions. And yes, women need to defend them as well. But candidly, we're talking about Boy Scouts. You need to raise up strong men. I am telling you, there is no more, more effective, powerful force on the planet than a well formed, matured, fully functional, intelligent, self assured male man. That is a power source for Western civilization that cannot be defeated. And so there will be all kinds of assaults against the development of young men into fully grown, fully matured men. It just will be. And we have to protect the formation of men. It's one of the critical duties of this show. It's one of the critical duties of Turning Point. Yes, we care about the women. Yes, of course. But I'm telling you, young men, fully formed, fully ready to take on the challenges of this generation and the next and the next after that. If we have those men, Western civilization will not only survive, it will thrive. That's why there's always an attack against them. So we must defend the men. Charlie knew this. We know this still. Hopefully you out in the audience know it as well. We've got our Ask us Anything hour. We're going to be welcoming Mikey McCoy. Pastor John Amachukwu is here in Phoenix, so I invited him on as well. We're gonna have a lot of fun. Go to members.charliekirk.com to take part. You get to come right on the show. Ask your questions. Members.charliekirk.com we will see you in just a couple minutes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is headed to the beach this afternoon, sort of. He'll actually be along the Texas Gulf coast as he takes over Corpus Christi, Texas, to talk about energy. Before leaving the White House, he talked with reporters. What is your reaction to that? Well, how is this going to be and do whatever he has to say. So he's a very innocent guy doing a good job.

[Andrew Torba]

What's your message to the Iraqi leadership?

[Charlie Kirk]

Going to get along very well with the Iraqi leadership.

[Andrew Torba]

Thank you,

[Brandon Herrera]

Governor.

[Charlie Kirk]

Put your posted on social media that you're planning to seal a 2026 midterm elections. In fact, he says the plan is already underway. How do you sign a government well, he's got to focus on crime in his state. The crime in the state's doing very badly. If we, if we went and took care of it, what we do, just like Washington, D.C. we have no crime. Memphis, we just it's down 82%. Louisiana. Take a look at Louisiana. What, what he should really do is focus on crime in his state because there's too much out there.

[Andrew Torba]

What do you hope to achieve on this trip to Texas?

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you plan on making any endorsements while you're there? We're having tremendous luck with oil. Got more oil than anybody. And the prices of gasoline are coming way down. And prices generally are coming way down. The pricing is it's been amazing what we've been able to do in one year. Prices are way down, led by energy, Led by oil. So where this sort of it's sexist, it's a little bit of an oil meeting, I would say.

[Andrew Torba]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Rav's chief White House correspondent, Brian Glenn is already on the ground in Corpus Christi. Let's check in with him now to get a very latest on what to expect. Brian so you heard some of the questions the president just answered there. But the big question that he'll answer today when in Corpus Christi, is about energy. That's part of his speech, part of what we're expecting he'll be talking about today. Brian Absolutely. Terrence at about 3:30, just slightly, about a a couple miles behind me is where he'll meet the folks that work at the port here in Corpus Christi. Now, Corpus Christi is one of the biggest LNG terminals in the country. There's several terminals up and down the Gulf coast today. It's energy and the economy. But it's also big primary day here in Texas on Tuesday. Now, President Trump has endorsed about a dozen candidates running for office here in Texas. But there's one race he's completely stayed out of the and that is the US Race for Senate. That's John Corning, current senator from Texas, being challenged by Attorney General Ken Paxton and Congressman Wesley Hunt. We'll see if he does any type of endorsement today. I've been told that Attorney General Ken Paxton, who's running for Senate, will be here at this event. He was invited by the president to attend. John Cornyn, from what I understand is boarding Air Force One to travel with the president to come here to Corpus Christi. Terrence oh, this just got interesting. So you'll have two candidates who are pitted against each other at the same event with the president. That's what I've been told. So obviously, John Cornyn is still sinking some type of endorsement from President Trump. Ken Paxton, friends with President Trump for a long time, been one of the biggest fighters for the Trump administration. Even during the Biden administration, Ken Paxton has filed hundreds of lawsuits on behalf of the United States government or perhaps of Texas in terms of immigration, in election security. So we'll see what happens. But that I don't anticipate a formal endorsement until Tuesday. I just don't. Just a feeling. But it is interesting. You'll have both candidates here on the ground in Corpus Christi. Okay. And so I'm just gonna be a bit more petty and throw in there Wesley Hunt, the congressman from Texas, also in the race. But as far as you're hearing, he has not been invited then today, I cannot confirm that he's not here or he has not been invited. I have not. I will reach out to his people and see if we can figure that out. But the information about Cornyn and Paxton just came to me within the last 30 minutes or so, so I thought I'd pass that along. But obviously, Wesley Hunt, very popular congressman from Katy, West Houston Area Energy Corridor there as well, feels like he has a chance to win as well. And so you've got kind of a. It may go off to a runoff, it may be decided by a runoff, but I'll try to find out if Wesley Hunt's going to be here. But it does make for a very interesting from what I've been told, Kim Paxton will not be speaking at this event. Now, I don't know if John Cornyn has been invited to speak at this event, but it does remind me somewhat of a situation that developed in Pickens, South Carolina, when, at the time, Senator Lindsey Graham spoke at a Trump rally and just about got booed off the stage.

[Andrew Torba]

All right, we Are back. Hour two is underway.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

It is.

[Andrew Torba]

Is Friday, so that means hour two is the ask us anything. And by the way, I just couldn't say enough good things about our guests here. Obviously, Mikey McCoy.

[Mikey McCoy]

The mediocre adjective.

[Andrew Torba]

Mikey McCoy. Let's not insert an adjective. And then the. What you call them? The jacked. Pastor Amonchuk, you are pretty.

[Mikey McCoy]

Jack Almanchuk.

[Blake]

Is it formidable?

[Andrew Torba]

I would only heard his voice.

[Blake]

He is a formidable presence.

[Andrew Torba]

I mean, I'm gonna say something I shouldn't. If I was coming down the side of the street in the middle of the night and you were walking past me, I would go to the other side. Just because you're so big.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Well, you know what, Andrew?

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. You are legitimately the same way.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

If I was walking down the street and I saw you with that square

[Charlie Kirk]

jaw at night, they call it.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

I'm going to the other side as well.

[Andrew Torba]

Before we get to the questions, I was gonna say. One sec. I was gonna say I ended the last hour talking about men with chest.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Yes.

[Andrew Torba]

And that is. I mean, I just. I really do think there is no more powerful force in civilization than a fully formed man. And I did steal that from C.S. lewis. But it really is who you are. You are a man of courage. You speak your mind. You are fearless. Maybe you're not fearless. Maybe you have fear, but you overcome it with your courage. And I know that all comes from your faith. And Charlie saw that in you as well. So we're just so glad to have you.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Hey, it's an honor. First and foremost, I pay respect and homage to the legacy of Charlie Kirk. I will never forget him. He came along and supported my ministry when I had 400 followers on Instagram before I was known for going viral at school board meetings. Charlie believed in the word that I was doing, and so I have to always keep that at the forefront. We live in a day where loyalties don't matter.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, you're right.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

People betray you for nothing. It's rare where you see that a person may have had their demise, but yet. And still the person remains consistent. We live in an age of inconsistent people. I won't betray his legacy. I'll continue to support tpusa, Support Erica Kirk, who's doing a phenomenal job. And you guys are trying to do something that's merely impossible. You're trying to carry on the work of a leader who's essentially a one of one leader.

[Andrew Torba]

Once in a generation.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

All right, Once in a lifetime leader. But you understand that what God gave Charlie was for Charlie. But there's an anointing and grace that God gives us all. And we have to flow in that anointing and in that grace. It may take 10 people to equal to what Charlie did, but yet still we can do it because of the anointing that God leaves to do the work.

[Andrew Torba]

Amen. Well, well said. And, you know, we're just grateful to have. I'm glad we texted last night and I was like, dude, you gotta come in.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Indeed.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Before we hit the questions I wanted to get, we talked about about made the assisted suicide thing in Canada. And I got a lot of emails

[Andrew Torba]

and I blew up the inbox.

[Blake]

So really a lot of people had strong thoughts and I wanted to read some of them because I thought it's important to really drive this point home, especially when it resonates with our audience. Deborah points out, I have a friend in Canada who has lupus or had lupus and could not get proper care. So instead they just offered her maid. She had just turned 50, she has a husband, she has a child. She refused for obvious reasons, but Canada's health system is broken. Praise God that she is a Christian.

[Andrew Torba]

They're literally shoving it down people's throat.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Andrew Torba]

Encouraging it.

[Mikey McCoy]

You want to.

[Blake]

Quickly.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

You want to know what really freaks me out the most about this is how fast in one generation you can just switch to what. What was radical but is now normal. And I was talking to my family about, you know, growing up. Their generation would see movies where you could talk on the phone to your watch and they're like. And that happened in like 2013 with the apple. But then now it's like way early on. The concept of a third trimester abortion was radical. Now the, and the concept of, of, you know, medically assisted suicide was radical or transing your kid was radical, but within like a 50 year period, it's now normal. And so you have to ask yourself how. What's next? Like, what comes after that? And it's like they're going to start normalizing marriage to an underage child if you're going to start normalizing political polygamy or. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blake]

And in Canada, I feel mentioned this. Canada was more Christian than America after World War II, if you can believe it. But I want a couple more. Joanne says, I know all about Made in Canada because Canadian doctors bury their mistakes. My uncle had an ear infection. A quack blew air into it, ruptured his eardrum, and the infection spread. He traveled to Vancouver. They did nothing. He couldn't stand the pain any longer. And the doctor was more than happy to help him end it all. My aunt is still devastated two years later by the way he was treated. This is an evil ideology of death. Amen. And one more Aaron points out. They should know that First Corinthians. Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy and you are that temple. Assisted suicide is an abomination.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Blake]

Amen to that, Aaron. But we have some subscriber questions, so let's dive into those. Our first one is from Caleb. Caleb, are you there? Unmute yourself.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, I'm here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good morning.

[Blake]

Howdy.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think it's a great like share that you guys have today because I had two church questions I wanted to ask you guys.

[Blake]

Excellent, excellent. What is it?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, my first question was, many churches today seem to be struggling to keep young people connected and engaged. From your perspective, what is the biggest issue churches need to fix and what steps can they take to rebuild their communities?

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Well, first and foremost, the Bible says that God's truth endures to all generations. With that in mind, we don't need a baby boomer gospel, we don't need an X gospel, we don't need a Gen Z gospel. We need the gospel preached by men who have been impacted and changed by the gospel. And so about seven or eight years ago, I went to Barnes and Nobles to gain some understanding on what books were impacting kids. And 70% of the books that I saw that was postured in the front of the store were about the occult world or pagan worship. Which told me that people want to delve into mysticism. They want to know that there's something out there that's supernatural. And there is, there are some false gods, but there's a real God that supersedes over the earth. And now more than ever, we need to have an emphasis in the Christian church on the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. People need to have an encounter with God. And when you have an encounter with God, no one can shake what you have seen and what what you know. In addition, pastors must in engage the culture. We can't leave it up to social media and tick tock to educate the church on what's right, what's true and what's just. Many pastors today won't touch issues of transgenderism, abortion, the school system, issues of whether some states want school choice or not or not. They won't touch it because they are afraid to tick off their more liberal members. And so I say it this way, that weak pulpits create weak Christians. Scary preachers create scary sheep. And what we need now more than ever are pastors who are not afraid to be bludgeoned, right? To be crucified, crucified afresh because of what they stand for and what they believe. Because of that, so many say nothing, and they allow the podcaster to dominate what's being said.

[Mikey McCoy]

Wow.

[Andrew Torba]

I also think comes to mind Proverbs 22:22 6. Train up the child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it. It ties into what we were talking about with the Scouts, you know, that's why when we had 10 million scouts in 1976, 10 million. It was a lot of young men being raised up in the way they should go. What do we got? What did you guys say? Oh, beautiful. Hillsdale. Charlie's favorite college. Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. Learning the word of God, too, by the way. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth. One of the courses he took was the Genesis Story. Taught by Hillsdale professor Dr. Justin Jackson. The free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path towards reconciliation. This is a real college course about the Book of Genesis. It's rigorous, it's thoughtful, and it's accessible to anybody willing to learn. Go to CharlieForHillsdale.com to enroll today. That's CharlieForHillsdale.comto enroll today. Learn deeply. Lead boldly. Carry it forward. Become a man with a chest, with strength. We'll be right back.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Andrew Torba]

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[Blake]

I saw Caleb had a second half, but I think we did get to that.

[Andrew Torba]

The main thing struggling with the church is struggling with this. We got weak path indeed. Yeah, I think we got it. Water down gospel.

[Blake]

Thank you, Caleb, for your question. Our next is Rob. Rob, unmute yourself and what's your question?

[Rob]

Hey, gentlemen, Good afternoon.

[Blake]

Good afternoon.

[Rob]

So I live in a smaller county in Florida and actually a couple of months back, actually my wife called into you guys again. You can get so many callers, you know, every week. I'm sure you don't remember, but she had called in and asked about how do we deal with an issue within our county, essentially that they're trying to hit us with an additional tax. And we had a unique idea for it. You guys actually gave her a really cool quote. You played a quote from Erica about having a velvet spine of steel and withstanding people. Yeah, really cool in that. Quotes everywhere. But so anyway, so they want to raise our taxes here, right. So we dug into the budget and what we found was kind of alarming. So over the course of about a 10 year period, we actually found in our little Florida county about $180 million that nobody can really account for for why they collected a night. I am, I'm an accountant. I have 11 spreadsheets all over. And I mean it's, it's actually legit. Not to get too nerdy on you, but basically our property taxes grew by about 161% over the last 10 years, but population only went up by about 35%, about 28%. So there's a big gap, essentially. So like last year they collected what would have been the equivalent of an extra like $47 million than they should have if they would have used the 2015 baseline. And it's like close to 200 million. So anyways, my question is, so we're looking to kind of relaunch this and present this information to our county on Monday. And one of the things we're Doing is online. We're building out a website. We're going to have an accountability scorecard as well for every elected official, every candidate in our area. And basically, we want to get them on, on record, publicly, and saying, hey, do you support having an independent audit of our county? And only after doing that will you even think about raising taxes. So my question is, how do you actually get these officials to respond? And I ironically say this. Jen's the only reason she's not talking my wife on this right now. She's actually talking to a city council member right now. But we've had a lot of back and forth with people, and they don't really want to commit to anything. So how do we get that?

[Andrew Torba]

Who's your congressman?

[Rob]

Randy Fine.

[Andrew Torba]

Got it. Actually, you know, Randy Fine is going to be, I guess, just confirmed to speak at our event in D.C. with that Anna Paulina Luna is running well.

[Blake]

So big picture, I think getting at the heart of it is there is. There's, I think, the flawed assumption that government actually cares about stopping waste. And in a lot of cases, it doesn't. They often are the beneficiaries of higher waste. That can often translate to having more personnel under them, just higher salaries for themselves, higher benefits for themselves. And more to the point, if you're in the government, there's not much of a penalty for having a lot of waste. It's not your money, it's somebody else's money. So the people you do unfortunately have to get whipped up about it are the people who actually pay the taxes, because they're the ones who are harmed by this. And this is one of the big existential problems in America is as you tilt to where the number of people meaningfully paying taxes is less than half the population, you get to a point where there are. There are arguably not enough people who have a stake in anything being run effectively being run efficiently. So I think you have a good idea with trying to create websites, create more local awareness of the scale of the problem. But in the end, something that has to happen is you basically have to make sure that this is something people will turn out and vote for in local races to change.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

Can you send us your website when it's up, please? Because I will. I will route that.

[Rob]

I'll send you the backing.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah.

[Rob]

I'm going to be honest with you. My dream would be. I don't expect you to do it on the spot, but you guys and TP USA Action, I would not. Not money, not people, just a endorsement of, you know, what you guys are doing good work and we're behind you. That would mean the world if you guys saw it and was legitimate. And I understand, again, the need to vet.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, no, we got to vet it, of course. But I, you know, assuming, I mean, you guys, you guys are members, so you've already, you have our goodwill and I want to, I want to see it, but I would route it to some, some officials that we could get to, especially in Florida, we know a lot of. Also, we just had Byron Donalds on the show. If he was aware of this, I'm sure he'd be very interested. And then, but to Blake's point, getting popular support, groundswell support in your local community and showing up at the city council meetings demanding accountability as opposed to raising taxes. I mean, this is the problem. You know, you have a Republican district that's acting like a bunch of Democrats. What do Democrats do in California? They tax and they spend and then they want to tax some more. Now they, now they need billionaires wealth tax. Right? So this is, this is what they do. And instead of fixing the problem underlying, it's not that you have a revenue problem, you have a spending problem. So stop acting like Democrats. Stop taxing us more. We want more. Listen, taxation is essentially theft at some level, right? When. Especially when it's not. When it's not being used responsibly. It's certainly morally incumbent upon those elected leaders to use it responsibly. So I'm very motivated to help you and we need to, you know, sometimes you need to get examples, you need to scalp to basically get your point across. So please send us your website and we'll go from there. But good work. I love how motivated you guys are. This is the type of grassroots base energy that we need to take our country back. So hat tip to you guys and, you know, God bless you. So we're gonna, yeah, we're, we're gonna go through the next break here. We're going to blow it. For those on the, on the stream. Can we get to the next question here? It would be Mick.

[Blake]

No, I think it's Brandon.

[Andrew Torba]

Oh, is it Brandon? Brandon. Brandon. Please unmute yourself. Welcome to the show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, guys, can everyone hear me?

[Andrew Torba]

Yes, of course.

[Blake]

So my question is, how do we,

[Andrew Torba]

you know, balance what it tells us

[Brandon Herrera]

in scripture to obey the authority we

[Blake]

live in with fighting unjust laws?

[Andrew Torba]

There's some examples in scripture that kind of go about that. I'm thinking of acts when they were told to stop spreading the gospel and when it came to that, the apostles were like, hey, sorry, can't do that. So there's one. But we can get into it in the break. And you're the pastor, so we'll let Pastor John Amachukwu take the first stabilizer. Guys, please join us at members.charliekirk.com Become a member, take part in our AMAs on Friday. We're gonna hit a quick break. We're gonna. We're gonna keep going with Pastor John on this question. Hang right there. All right, Pastor John, what. What do you. What do you take make of this question?

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

There's so many ways that you can unpack that question. The thing is, the powers that be are ordained by God. That's Romans, chapter 13.

[Andrew Torba]

Render unto Caesar.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right. But the problem with Caesar, Caesar wants too much, right? Caesar wants to continue to take from us. When you look at the Old Testament, you see the Hebrew boys who were thrown into a fiery furnace because they resisted what. What the king wanted. You see Daniel thrown in the lion's den because he resisted what the king wanted. You see David fighting Goliath. Why? Because he resisted what Goliath was saying about the people of God. And so there lies a point, all right, where if the laws are unjust, I. E. We are being forced to do things that are against our biblical worldview. We shouldn't succumb to those laws. We shouldn't do it. All right? We shouldn't adhere to it. Hats off to the mighty men of God, who during the pandemic, were told to close their churches, but instead of closing their churches, they kept their churches open. Now, many of them received fines. I'm sure the records know something about that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I know.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

You know, and fines. And they were pilloried and bludgeoned because of their belief system, but yet instead, they kept the churches open. What we're seeing right now is that the churches that resisted it during the pandemic, those churches are thriving. And the churches that close down, many of them are still shuttered. And so, yes, there is a point where we have to disagree and disobey the laws of the land. If they go against scripture and what God has called us to do, we should do that dutifully, but we should also do it winsomely, not with the intent to create disorder or chaos. But we cannot support laws that go against our biblical worldview.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. Which is why I brought up the example from Acts, right, where they were being told, you can't spread the gospel, you can't preach the gospel. And they said, sorry, that's our mandate. We have to do it. We have to go against the authority of the land.

[Mikey McCoy]

I would also add that specifically here in America, and Charlie used to talk about this all the time, that honoring those in authority is different in our country. And I was at dinner with the cedra last night and they were like, shocked I was going through the Constitution. They're like, I just. We love this article. We love this, this declaration. It's just the most powerful document. But having free speech, having the second amendment, having all these things, the authority in our country is the people. And so when, when you're called to, to honor those in authority, when there's unjust rules, specifically the example of COVID 19, when they're shuttering the doors, but strip clubs are allowed to be open, when they were forcing pastors not to have counseling sessions with their congregants, but marijuana dispensaries were open, you know, and so you have to ask yourself, you know, here in America, we the people are the authority. But then even greater than that, you guys talked about, you know, in Matthew, where Christ talks about rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's. He says, hold up the denarius. And so they hold up denarius. He says, whose face is on that? It's Caesar. He says, okay, so render unto Caesar what does Caesar's.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Caesar's.

[Mikey McCoy]

And to God what is God's. But now in modern day society, specifically America and in the west, we've rendered unto Caesar what is God's. Marriage is God's.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right.

[Mikey McCoy]

The right to life is God's. And yet we have this notion in our head that that belongs to the government, that belongs to Caesar's. You know, that's a political issue. I can't touch that. That's a political issue. I don't want to talk about that.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right.

[Mikey McCoy]

But no, no, it's not, it's not a political issue. You guys are, you're lost. You're confused about that. It's actually a biblical issue. You've rendered unto Caesar what is God's.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, and this is the Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And that's, that's the beauty of the country. I completely agree. I literally was typing in, we the people are the sovereign. We are the sovereign. We are the sovereign from which the consent we allow the government to rule and govern by our consent, because we are the sovereign. And the Declaration of Independence is a love letter to humanity and to God because God gives us those rights. A government cannot take those from us because they come divinely from the Creator.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right. Acts chapter 4, verse 29 says, and now, Lord, behold their threatenings and grant unto thy servants that with all boldness they may speak thy word. Verse 31 says, and when they had prayed, the place was shaken. They were assembled together and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost. And they spake the word of God with boldness. That word boldness in the Greek gives you the word parhesia, which means the unreservedness of utterance. It also means freedom of speech. Boldness is freedom of speech. And so when the preachers preaches the whole counsel of God from Genesis to Revelations, that's freedom of speech. When he holds back truth, it's not freedom of speech. And so we see pastors all around our country withholding freedom of speech because they fear government.

[Andrew Torba]

I was about to say, who do you fear, God or man? We'll be right back. I'm going to be joined by Rav in just one second.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

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[Blake]

Now the next I believe. Yeah, Mick, unmute yourself and what's your question?

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, good morning, fellas.

[Andrew Torba]

It's still 10 o' clock over here.

[Charlie Kirk]

But my question, Mikey, you mentioned earlier

[Andrew Torba]

the normalization of these crazy things like

[Charlie Kirk]

transing the kids and, you know, nonsense like that.

[Andrew Torba]

And one of the things that, that

[Charlie Kirk]

we've unfortunately seen normalized violence against conservatives and Christians, whether that's as far as trying to assassinate the president or, you know, unfortunately successfully assassinating Charlie Kirk down to, you know, just people getting assaulted.

[Andrew Torba]

Like I was assaulted during the first

[Charlie Kirk]

Trump administration when I was in school. There was a video going around Twitter a couple weeks ago of this big kid just sucker punching this kid who had an ice cream. A support I sign. And so with that, how do we

[Andrew Torba]

effectively fight that culture of violence is

[Charlie Kirk]

okay against conservatives while maintaining our biblical values?

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like when, for example, you brought up the COVID example. When the government tells you not to do something and you know that it's a God given right to do the opposite, you stand in boldness to do it, whether or not you will be attacked or whether or not you go to jail. And it's because you are fighting for something bigger, something greater than yourself, specifically when it comes to the values of truth that we hold. And so if the left is threatening violence against you, you know that you have a duty to stand up for that truth, to stand up for your values, regardless of if you're gonna be attacked or not. And unfortunately, the trajectory of the left, especially when it comes to violence here in America, is they're becoming increasingly successful, not just in them assassinating our people, but also when it comes to the assassins, possibly in the case of Luigi Mangione, the left mobilizing to make him this like, hero.

[Andrew Torba]

He's a folk hero.

[Mikey McCoy]

He's a folk hero. So every time there's a hearing at the courthouse, there's a bunch of leftist protesters that want to see Luigi Mangione walk free for killing a man in cold blood, for assassinating a man for no other reason than he did not like the health care system that he was in charge of.

[Blake]

And it's very dark because this can succeed. It has succeeded in the past where movements that love violence, embrace violence and promote it have successfully gotten. They've had killers get away with things. They've gotten them very lenient sentences. You can see this if you want an ominous example. This would happen regularly in Russia before they had the Bolshevik Revolution. Constant culture of assassinations and people who would get off quite lightly in many cases, for Involvement in those. And so how do we fight it? Well, I would say politically, a very important step in areas where we have power. For example, in red states right now, and for that matter, in the federal government, you need to take a position of maximum hostility to politically driven violence, of course. And that can involve obviously prosecuting everyone you can. But also, you have to lay down the law a bit. If your organization is clearly engineering riots, we're going to say, like, yeah, we need. Actually, we should probably change Raiko and make sure Raiko is capable of prosecuting RICO organization. Organizations like that.

[Charlie Kirk]

You just.

[Blake]

You can't take a casual attitude. And so, for example, if you have these riots that happen on a campus to try to shut down a turning point speaker, as happened to Charlie many times, you have to actually say, this is a much bigger deal than we've acted like it is in the past. This is an attempt to destroy freedom of speech and to violently intimidate someone against doing something.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Bam.

[Blake]

You were trying to strip someone of their civil rights. We're going to throw you in prison for a decade. Thank you. Come again.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, go ahead, Mike.

[Mikey McCoy]

I was just gonna say call it out where you see it, too. Like, President Trump did such a great job at the State of the Union when the literally, the Democrats are not standing up for Irina Zarudska violently murdered.

[Andrew Torba]

They didn't stand up when he said, we got to stand up against political violence either.

[Mikey McCoy]

They didn't care. These people hate you.

[Andrew Torba]

They hate you. And here's what I would say, too. Just, I'm thinking about Charlie. You know, Charlie was aware of the threats against him. He was. It's something he talked about on the show. I've seen the clips circulating online a lot. And, you know, I'm reminded of scripture. Do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. You know, there's a lot of people that believe in God. There's very few that fear him. And so as we can contemplate all of these questions, these deep, troubling, profound questions, ask yourself, do you just believe in God or do you fear him? And Charlie feared God. Charlie did everything because he feared God. I endeavor to be a man that fears God and doesn't fear man. Man. And last thing I will say, and then I want to hear from Pastor John. We have a spiritual rot in this country, and there's a whole political party that has basically removed God from their platform. They've denied his edicts and his Instructions and his commands. And so what we really need is we need revival. Now the left's going to call Christian nationalism, and I'll do the smear job. We need revival. And that ultimately is the only thing that's going to give enough people enough courage to face it.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Consider the climate of where the early church was after the killing, the open killing of Jesus. John, I believe it's 20, verse 19, says then the same day at evening being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut, where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst of and said unto them, peace be unto you. This is after Jesus was killed. And the disciples are now in the upper room. They're hiding out, afraid, terrified for their lives. We don't want to go beyond these walls because they may kill us as well, because we just watched them kill our Savior. Charlie believed that to live is Christ, but to die is gain.

[Mikey McCoy]

Amen.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

There's a difference. There's a mentality that's required to do kingdom work. You know, most people don't really know what that place looks like spiritually and mentally. But you have to become desensitized to the threats. The threats are intended to quiet you, to stymie you, to keep you from speaking up. The threats are supposed to cause you to neuter your voice, censor yourself. Self censorship, right? All of these things are intentional. It's a plan to keep a person from doing what they know is just right and good. But Jesus spoke to his disciples and told them, peace be unto you. And then he goes on to show them proof that he existed. And then ultimately he gives them, you know, the initial down payment of the Holy Spirit. Yeah, he breathes on them and gives them the power to go beyond their fears. And so the movement within Turning Point USA will thrive. It will continue to grow. So as long as we move beyond the fear, the threat of retribution, what could happen? I'll tell you what's going to happen. We're all going to die one day. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, that's a con. That is a constant. It's not a variable. At some point, at some time, it will happen. It will happen.

[Andrew Torba]

We all have a death sentence.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's it. And so the thing is, we want to fall forward while dying and die with our boots on. We don't want to rust out. We want to wear out. There's a difference. There are some people who will choose to rust out. I'm not going to fight. I'M not going to contend because of the threat. Okay, but I just told you earlier that boldness means freedom of speech.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yes.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

We have to get back to that, to that secure place of biblical boldness where we speak, knowing that the threat is coming. Because it may come, but we cannot die a hour or a second or a minute before God wills it to be.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

No man can erase that. No man can stop that until we speak, knowing that Christ will protect us.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, we know that the, you know, the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Indeed.

[Andrew Torba]

And so what? And I say this, and I'll say it again. What man endeavors to stop, God has already unleashed it. Man can't stop. And so that's. We rest in that peace. We have to, because.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Andrew Torba]

And by the way, the revival is. Is already unleashing.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

It is.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

And the pews, young people especially, are going back to church and they're going back to the full gospel church. They're not going back to churches.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, well, to your point on the. I mean, it's right behind you, Andrew. Sinners in the hands of an angry God.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right.

[Mikey McCoy]

It's a sermon. For those of you who have not read that sermon today, go read that sermon. And that is what the gospel used to be. Did you know during that sermon there, used when, like, literally during the sermon, there'd be people bawling their eyes out out of fear of God that they would have to pull them out of the congregation because they are a distraction from the sermon. Sinners in the hands of an angry God. Today when, when, when congregants are leaving the church during a sermon, it's because they were offended, not because of fear of God, not because they're crying out of fear of God. So it's the. It's shifted.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, it shifted.

[Mikey McCoy]

And so this, this idea of fear that you might be attacked or killed by. By the left for speaking truth, it's actually gain. It is to die is to gain. All of this is gain.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right.

[Mikey McCoy]

And so the gospel has changed. I want to be found doing the work that God called me to do when it is my time to go home.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right.

[Mikey McCoy]

I do not want to be found on a golf course drinking on a Thursday morning.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

That's right.

[Andrew Torba]

Right.

[Mikey McCoy]

Like that. That is not our. Our goal in life. It's the opposite. And I think you just like the rust forward. I love it. Like, it's just so powerful.

[Andrew Torba]

Rust out or wear out?

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, Rust out or out.

[Andrew Torba]

All right, we gotta Tell you about strong cell. Hold on. Here you go. I gotta get for you guys. Here it is. There it is.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Okay.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Pastor John Amachukwu]

I've heard of it. It sounds like some type of peptide.

[Andrew Torba]

No, it's an enzyme.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Enzyme, enzyme.

[Blake]

Totally different.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

NAD plus is the nadh.

[Andrew Torba]

Nadh is deactivated. So. So here's the thing. This is a power source for your cells. It powers all the mitochondria in your body. If you take strong cell for four to six weeks, if you're struggling with, if you're a little lethargic, you got brain fog, word recall issues, if you're chronically ill, if you just feel tired all the time, you gotta try this. You owe it to yourself to give it a shot. It might fix everything. So go to strongcell.com, use promo code Charlie for 20% off at checkout. Here's the best part. 90 day risk free trial trial. So if it doesn't work for you, get all your money back. But it will work because we have tried it and we know it works. So at least that's my opinion. StrongCell.com promo code Charlie. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back. We have a question here from Liz.

[Blake]

Liz. We lost Liz, but we wanted to get to her question. She says I live in Calvert County, Maryland. My question is did TPUSA try to open up a group in one of the pub schools but was shut down because someone called the police? I am trying to get to the truth so I can go to our commissioners. Yes. So this is a story that happened about a week ago. It happened at Northern High School in Calvert County. I believe it's in specifically the town of Owens. So it's maybe about, looks like about an hour south of Baltimore or so. This is a Republican leaning county. But there was a Club America meeting at this high school and some woman, we don't know her full name, it appears her name was Nancy, but hopefully I don't think it's my mom. So we'll, we'll hope that one. But anyway, this woman, unhinged woman, saw this was event and said that it was. They were trying to influence children in a negative way. So basically announced that she was calling child protective services over this event. Based on local news reports, it does not appear that the authorities took this terribly seriously. They were called but police did not shut down this event. I think they probably had a good eye roll at this. So this is a good example of how deranged people will get. But my understanding is there were the authorities did not run with this report from an unhinged observer.

[Andrew Torba]

And Harmeet Dhillon, actually, she's coming on the show on Monday, but she actually looked into this and said, I was up in the early hours of this morning to monitor the arrest in this case and keep Pam Bondi informed. Super proud. Anyways, she's looking into it is the point. Harmeet is looking into it. I don't think there's been arrest or anything like that. So we'll see if there's a civil rights violation there and Harmeet will look into it. All right, so next question.

[Blake]

Anthony is next. It's sports. Anthony is back. All right, Anthony. And shoot.

[Andrew Torba]

Welcome back.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hi, guys.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, actually, I want to.

[Charlie Kirk]

Before I get to my question, I'm going to piggyback off what you guys just finished.

[Andrew Torba]

Have you paid attention to what's going on in Baldwinsville, New York, with the

[Charlie Kirk]

high school and a teacher who tried

[Andrew Torba]

to help the students start a Teach usa? Yes. Yeah, we're very well aware of it and we can't really comment on it yet because legal maneuvering's happening.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

So.

[Charlie Kirk]

So my question is this.

[Andrew Torba]

So we had the State of the Union, we see all the Republicans on their side of the room stand up for everything, clap for all the good stuff that we like. But what is what Republicans and the GOP like not working together when they go back to their separate houses and not trying to pass the things that we the people want that we put

[Charlie Kirk]

them in charge of, like, you know,

[Andrew Torba]

SAVE act for one.

[Charlie Kirk]

And why do GOP members, not just at federal level, but at every level, seem to have this infighting with each other? Why can't they ever unite?

[Andrew Torba]

Go ahead. Who wants this?

[Blake]

You could answer that one how long ago? Charlie wouldn't need to do his life's work if it was that easy.

[Andrew Torba]

So, I mean, I will give you an example. The SAVE Act. I've been talking with a bunch of different senators about this, and right now they're all publicly saying they want this done. The problem is there's parliamentary tactics that are involved, different schools of thought about how to address the parliamentary tactics. You also have to ask the question, can you get 250? Right now it looks like we're at 49, because Tillis is out and Lisa Murkowski is out and Mitch McConnell's out. So fundamentally, at some sort of lower threshold level, you're talking about a hardwiring of the conservative mind. We're just like a rowdy bunch and we're more independent thinkers. We're not as collectivist, we're not as hive minded as the left. But really there's, there's, in the instance of Thom Tillis with President Trump, there's a feud. President Trump didn't like him. It became a public feud. Now Thom Tillis is gonna make it his lasting legacy to just be a thorn in his side. I don't know why that is. I don't know why Thom Tillis wants to go out like that. You'd have to ask him. He's not gonna come on this show. I've invited him. And so there's deeper questions, right? Lisa Murkowski, we got her because of ranked choice voting, which is a total surge in Alaska.

[Charlie Kirk]

Alaska.

[Andrew Torba]

Mitch McConnell's on his way out, but he's been a pain in the butt for years. Okay, so, you know, these are issues. Rand Paul is very unpredictable. Out of Kentucky, by the way. Nate Morris for senator to take over for Mitch McConnell. We got to get him over the finish line. He's surging in the polls. So Nate Morris support that guy. So we need better, we need better representatives, people that are as conservative as the voters. I mean, this is what Charlie spent so much of his time doing. This is why Charlie endorsed Nate Morris, by the way, and Andy Biggs in Arizona, because we need, we need better representation. And a lot of these good old boy networks defend their own. And NRSC has problems. It goes on and on and on. So, I mean, if anybody else wants to jump in, please, please do. But.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Well, speaking of Tom Taylor, that's my senator. It's sad. It's a travesty. We've always known that in North Carolina. Oftentimes when special interests get involved in dark money, people begin to change. But I do want to show you all that I know this is, this is a anomaly. I'm a black man in America with a id. I just wanted you all to see this.

[Andrew Torba]

It's a rarity. Did you get this on the black market?

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

No, I didn't get on the black market

[Andrew Torba]

right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did he get it in New York?

[Andrew Torba]

And it says like, no name for driver? No, I got it in North Carolina. Cdl. Is this. Are you in a.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

No, no, don't. I don't drive 18 wheelers.

[Andrew Torba]

You know, I will tell you on the special interest, on the, in a special interest thing. So I, I went to this Capitol Hill club for the first time. And I went with Andy Ogles, the, The, the. The team there. They wanted me to see it kind of as like a.

[Pastor John Amachukwu]

Sure.

[Andrew Torba]

Show you where the sausage is made, really. Right. And it's this club where all these Republicans. That's where the Republicans hang out. You got to pay all this money to be a member. And then you go there and you have these like, kind of like whatever, dinner. They're not even that great, and it's not even that pretty inside. But this is like the exclusive place where you meet with lobbyists and donors and stuff like this. And I literally, I made the comment, I was like, my skin is crawling. And they were like, oh, yeah, it's spiritually dark place. So you wonder kind of some of the deals and the maneuverings that are going on behind the scenes. This Capitol Hill club is probably, you know, ground zero for a lot of that stuff. All right, I want to get to a couple more questions. Anthony, is that all right? Get your question answered. That's. No, that's perfectly fine.

[Blake]

We've got one minute left.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, you're good, Elisheva. How do I say it?

[Blake]

Well, unmute yourself, Elisheva, and let us know if you got your name right. And shoot it quick, and we'll give you 60 seconds.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Can you guys hear me?

[Andrew Torba]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. So it's Alicia Vaugh.

[Blake]

Excellent.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, so we're from Canada. It's my sister and I here. And our question is, so what do you guys think of. I know you talked about maid earlier in the episode, but what is your opinion of our current prime minister right now, Mark Harney? And then also second, follow up to that question. I'm curious. We are starting a youth political activism organization up here, and would you have any advice for us when it comes to making youth more conservative and helping young Canadians love their country?

[Blake]

All right, speed round. First of all, Mark Carney is a creepy globalist lizard. He's very smart. He's clearly very smart. He's really very capable. And that's frustrating. No notes, very hostile to us.

[Andrew Torba]

He is.

[Blake]

But he's. He's talented. We should not downplay him because, you know, we shouldn't underestimate him for creating a organization in Canada. Fearlessness is going to be the number one thing you need because your country doesn't have proper freedom of speech. It doesn't. It really is all in on the woke stuff that's been receding in America. So you're going to need a huge

[Andrew Torba]

amount of fearless social media, social media

[Blake]

social media endlessly fight where the people are. And that's going to be tick tock. That's going to be X. That's going to be Instagram. Go where people are and engage.

[Andrew Torba]

That is all for us today. We'll see you on Monday.

[Charlie Kirk]

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