The Charlie Kirk Show, January 12, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show — January 12, 2026 (Real America’s Voice)

Main Theme / Purpose

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, in partnership with Real America’s Voice, centers on the fallout from a deadly ICE operation in Minneapolis, national protests around immigration enforcement, the polarization of American politics, foreign affairs (especially unrest in Iran), and a deep dive into the political and cultural divides shaping the discourse. The show features on-the-ground reporting, panel discussion, and interviews with key figures such as former ICE director Tom Homan and congressional candidate Jay Feely.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. ICE Shooting in Minneapolis — Public Reaction and Narrative War

• The show opens with intense discussion over the recent fatal shooting of Renee Goode by an ICE agent in Minneapolis during an attempted enforcement action.
• Hosts and guests debate the appropriateness of using lethal force, the risks ICE agents face, and how such incidents are portrayed by media and political leaders.
• The episode examines the tendency to label ICE protestors as "domestic terrorists" and the shift in public trust towards federal authorities.

Notable Quotes

• “We have to show up with guns. We have to. There's no other way around it.” — Tom Homan [00:28]
• “Why does an ICE agent have a gun?” — Charlie Kirk [00:41]
• “When she revved the engine and proceeded forward, she weaponized [her vehicle]. That officer did not have the hindsight of hours of watching videotape. He had a microsecond to make a decision.” — Jay Feely & John Jubilee [01:26]

2. Protests, Organization, and On-the-Ground Chaos in Minneapolis

• Bo Diddle from TPUSA Frontlines reports firsthand from protest sites, describing significant hostility toward media, coordinated actions among demonstrators, and direct confrontations with law enforcement.
• The group analyzes how much of the protest movement is truly grassroots versus coordinated by “communist front groups,” identifying the use of marked “leaders” and organized tactics during clashes.

Notable Quotes

• “It was just complete lawlessness until the riot police showed up later.” — Bo Diddle [06:33]
• “They are marked. They are showing the others where to go. And I think everybody needs to fully appreciate that.” — Charlie Kirk [11:05]
• “Anytime you have a camera, they are very, very skeptical of you... I get confronted quite a bit and they try and report me.” — Bo Diddle [08:34]

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3. Media, Rhetoric, and the Political Divide

• The episode spotlights the narrative war around the ICE shooting and immigration enforcement.
• There is strong criticism of Democratic leaders and political figures framing ICE as villains and opposing federal immigration law enforcement. Discussion on whether such rhetoric endangers officers and creates city-versus-federal “standoffs.”
• Discussion on why the left is so invested in mass immigration, with claims it is about political power, census manipulation, and “rigging elections.”

Notable Quotes

• “That time [to trust the federal government] is long past.” — Charlie Kirk [03:17]
• “When a president endorses tearing families apart and attempts to govern through fear and hate rather than shared values, you foster an environment of lawlessness and recklessness.” — Jay Feely [02:38]
• “They make the situation as broken as possible. So then they can say, ‘Oh, well, the situation's really broken. So you need to give in to us’ … They want to make it as hard as possible to get the criminals, too.” — Blake Neff [22:18]

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4. Interview with Tom Homan — The ICE Perspective

• Former ICE Director Tom Homan describes escalating risks for agents, a surge in assaults, and the impact of anti-ICE rhetoric from politicians and media.
• Detailed recounting of recent criminal arrests, emphasizing removal of dangerous offenders (especially child predators) from the community.
• Homan addresses threats from local officials to interfere with ICE, warning that resisting federal law enforcement is a felony and will be prosecuted.

Notable Quotes

• “The job of an ICE agent right now is more dangerous than it ever has been…assaults themselves are up over 1,300%.” — Tom Homan [26:46]
• “I don't know what bringing smoke means, but we can continue to bring the fire to those people who are public safety threats and in the country illegally. We're coming for them.” — Tom Homan [29:35]
• “If you impede, if you interfere with a federal officer enforcing the law, that is a felony…If you impede an ICE officer, you're going to be prosecuted.” — Tom Homan [34:21]

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5. The Political Impact — 2026 Congressional Spotlight with Jay Feely

• Interview with Jay Feely (former NFL player, broadcaster, and now congressional candidate), discussing economic policy, the importance of American values, and his faith as a motivation for public service.
• Focus on economic issues: economic growth, credit card rates, policies benefitting average Americans, and the fallout of government spending and inflation.

Notable Quotes

• “Your job is to create those equal opportunities, those pathways to success for everybody. I think that's what President Trump is doing.” — Jay Feely [56:17]
• “This nation will fail if we lose sight of our Christian roots. Western civilization is Christendom…that is our foundation.” — Charlie Kirk [60:53]

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6. Golden Globes & Culture War — The “Be Good” Buttons

• Critique of Hollywood activism, specifically celebrities and attendees at the Golden Globes wearing “Be Good” buttons to protest ICE actions.
• The hosts highlight the contrast between leftist activism and how conservatives respond to tragedy, drawing a comparison with memorials following Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

Notable Quotes

• “The people who say be good would make excuses for Tyler Robinson…” — Blake Neff [44:59]
• “If I see it happen again, I'm going to lose it on air. I promise you I will lose it on air. Because Charlie died talking to college students and debating…She [Renee Goode] died by confronting a police officer.” — Charlie Kirk [43:41]

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7. Foreign Affairs: Iran Uprising & U.S. Response

• The show pivots to foreign policy, with breaking coverage and expert insight on mass anti-regime protests in Iran.

• Interview with Iranian-American activist Alika Leban, who describes the unprecedented national scope of the protests, the youth-led character, and cultural roots of resistance. She highlights the media blackout, the population's yearning for a return of the Shah or his son as a transitional leader, and the importance of international solidarity.

• There’s skepticism about direct U.S. military intervention, preference for economic/diplomatic levers, and analysis of how the Iranian youth’s desire for freedom mirrors Western values.

Notable Quotes

• “Essentially, from what we've heard from inside Iran, every single city in Iran is basically has detonated with these protests.” — Alika Leban [79:29]
• “In Western academia…there’s this framework…about who the good people and who the bad people are…When you see what's happening in Iran at hands of an Islamist regime, well, that violates the moral color code.” — Alika Leban [80:24]
• “A liberated Iran…will free Israel and Gaza from Hamas, Lebanon from Hezbollah, Yemen from the Houthis, and the West from nuclear threat. It will be a massive, cascading liberation for all.” — Alika Leban [94:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• ICE Shooting & Protest Analysis: 00:28—05:27
• Bo Diddle Frontline Report: 06:04—14:44
• Tom Homan Interview: 26:09—38:49
• Jay Feely Interview: 53:05—70:27
• Golden Globes "Be Good" Debate: 39:03—45:38
• Foreign Policy – Iran Uprising: 73:31—94:36

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Opening: “We have to show up with guns. We have to. There's no other way around it.” — Tom Homan [00:28]
• On Law and Order: “We're not doing demonic rituals over memorial sides.” — Bo Diddle [11:53]
• On Federal-State Tension: “You want to arrest a United States agent, try it. Because we're not playing games. If you impede…you're going to be prosecuted.” — Tom Homan [34:21]
• Hollywood Critique: “He's a beta male...He acts like he's, you know, so in touch with we the people at this grassroots level where the Be good.” — Charlie Kirk on Mark Ruffalo [41:07]
• On the Iran Uprising: “A liberated Iran from the regime will free…not just the regime. It will free Israel and Gaza from Hamas, Lebanon from Hezbollah, Yemen from the Houthis, and the West from nuclear threat.” — Alika Leban [94:13]

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Tone and Language

The episode is highly charged, confrontational, and unambiguously critical of Democratic leadership, activists, and mainstream media. There is strong advocacy for law enforcement, strict immigration policy, and traditional American/Christian values. The tone shifts to one of urgency and solidarity during the interview with Iranian activist Alika Leban, while the Jay Feely segment takes on an inspiring, patriotic note focused on service and faith.

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Conclusion

This episode encapsulates the fever pitch of American polarization on immigration, civic unrest, foreign policy, and culture. The show's hosts and guests deliver fiery commentary on the practical and philosophical battles shaping the country, alternating between street-level reporting, ideological critique, and advocacy for a new wave of pro-conservative, pro-law enforcement leadership.

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Transcript

[Alika Leban]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

[Tom Homan]

We have to show up with guns. We have to. There's no other way around it.

[Terrence Bates]

I don't care if I don't have.

[Tom Homan]

A Minnesota carry permit.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm unarmed right now. But this is the last time I.

[John Jubilee]

Show up to face these guys without a weapon.

[Tom Homan]

There's no way.

[Charlie Kirk]

The world is watching and the world knows that America has an issue with guns. I'm police, of course, but the gun thing, the fact that she was shot like this, for what? Almost hitting this agent. I mean, the fact that guns were used and she was shot and killed in this way, to me is the most horrifying part. Why does an ICE agent have a gun?

[John Jubilee]

This 37 year old woman drops her kid off at school. Not involved in protect, protest activity or anything. Seems to be in the wrong place.

[Charlie Kirk]

At the wrong time.

[John Jubilee]

When that gentleman, when she, she showed.

[Jay Feely]

Up that morning, she did.

[John Jubilee]

She weaponized that vehicle, Jake. She could have been standing there with.

[Charlie Kirk]

A Glock on her hip, okay?

[John Jubilee]

She.

[Jay Feely]

Police wouldn't have fired at her. They said, please get out of the car.

[John Jubilee]

She didn't get out of the vehicle.

[Jay Feely]

When she revved that vehicle engine.

[Charlie Kirk]

When she revved the engine and proceeded forward, she weaponized. That officer did not have the hindsight.

[Jay Feely]

Of hours of watching videotape.

[John Jubilee]

He had a microsecond make a decision.

[Charlie Kirk]

Whether to fire her or not. If I.

[John Jubilee]

Do you think he wanted to end somebody's life that day?

[Charlie Kirk]

No.

[Alika Leban]

If they are saying that he has 10 years on service and is trained.

[Bo Diddle]

He should know that you shouldn't be.

[Alika Leban]

Trying to get in front of a moving car.

[Charlie Kirk]

As many of you know, they came.

[Alika Leban]

To terrorize, abduct and deport somal immigrants here in Minnesota when they couldn't find any because majority of us are legal residents and citizens, they decided to terrorize our Latino immigrants.

[Terrence Bates]

People are tired of these people coming.

[Charlie Kirk]

Into the city masked up, basically all masked up and pulling people out and causing havoc. This was supposed to be helping cities out.

[Terrence Bates]

This was supposed to be eliminating crime, but yet you are committing them here.

[Charlie Kirk]

You are putting people in fear. You are breaking up families.

[Jay Feely]

When a president endorses tearing families apart and attempts to govern through fear and hate rather than shared values, you foster an environment of lawlessness and recklessness.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is an aspiring fascist dictator tyrant.

[Terrence Bates]

Trying to impose by force will and dominance on the population.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what's happening.

[Terrence Bates]

And the sooner we all wake up.

[Charlie Kirk]

To it, the sooner we'll be able to be Free of it.

[Bo Diddle]

We know what the federal government says happened here. There was a time when we could take them at their word.

[Charlie Kirk]

That time is long past.

[Bo Diddle]

That is why we are calling on.

[Blake Neff]

ICE to halt all operations in Portland.

[Charlie Kirk]

Until a full and independent investigation can take place.

[John Jubilee]

Our community deserves answers.

[Jay Feely]

And I have a message for ICE to ice, get the out of Minneapolis. We do not want you here. Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite.

[Alika Leban]

In which the woman who was shot.

[Charlie Kirk]

And killed is being labeled as a domestic terrorism terrorist. Just to be clear, is anyone who.

[Alika Leban]

Protests ICE a domestic terrorist in the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Eyes of the administration?

[Tom Homan]

I can't say that. You know, it's a case by case basis. But, you know, if you look up the definition of terrorism, is there violence? Is there a threat of violence based on ideology that wants to change the way the government does what we do? Look at the definition of terrorism.

[Alika Leban]

Was Secretary Noem correct to label her a domestic terrorist?

[Charlie Kirk]

Mr. Homan?

[Tom Homan]

Look, we don't know what I don't know if Secretary Noem knows in what I know, I can tell you is what they did is illegal. And if you look up the definition of terrorism, it certainly could fall within that definition. If you look at the definition.

[Charlie Kirk]

But you don't have evidence.

[Alika Leban]

Pardon me, you don't have evidence that.

[Charlie Kirk]

She'S a domestic terrorist.

[Tom Homan]

I don't know what Secretary has that I don't. I'm not going to judge what the Secretary says. But if you look up the definition of terrorism, it certainly can fall within that. But I think we all got to agree there was no reason for this lady to do what she did. There's no reason to be there. If you want to protest, protest, but don't actively impede and interfere and certainly don't drive a 4,000 pound vehicle toward an officer.

[Jay Feely]

Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with.

[Terrence Bates]

The will to deceive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fear not, you found the place for truth.

[Jay Feely]

The voice of a generation that still.

[Charlie Kirk]

Has the will to believe in the.

[Jay Feely]

Greatest country in the history of the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Jay Feely]

Buckle up. Here we go.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is Monday, January 20th. Well, happy Monday, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

Let's hope.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, fair enough. It's been a wild weekend. Protests across the country protesting ICE detainments and raids and deportations, all the things that we the people voted for. And right out the gate here we've got Bo Diddle Tposa Frontlines who's been in Minneapolis covering the story as it unfolds to help us make sense of it all. Bo, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Bo Diddle]

Thank you so much. It's great to be here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So you've been on the front lines, as the name would indicate.

[Blake Neff]

It's not TPUSA Backlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's TPUSA Frontlines. Bo, you were on the front lines in Minneapolis. I was watching, as I'm sure you were, everything that was happening last night with Nick Sorter, there was a lot of drama there. Protesters surrounding the car, throwing frozen bottles of water at vehicles, at ICE agents, or. What did you see on the ground?

[Bo Diddle]

Oh, my gosh, it was pure chaos, especially on Friday. A lot of people were wanting to focus in on Saturday, but for me personally, as soon as I landed in Minneapolis, we went out on the streets to the Canopy Hotel, which, by the way, is allegedly not even where the ICE agents are staying. So they're just disrupting hundreds of people trying to get a good night's rest. But as soon as we got there, there was not a single man or woman inside. Later. Later there is, but at the time, there wasn't, and it was just pure chaos. They were throwing stuff on dumpsters. There was fireworks being exploded. It was just complete lawlessness. Until the riot police showed up later.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. You know, it's interesting is that was that same CNN reporter that the Mr. Fiery but mostly peaceful himself that I saw covering it on cnn. And even he was amazed that there wasn't more law enforcement presence around this mass crowd of protesters. I remain convinced that the only reason this has not boiled over into Floyd of Palooza 2.0 Full Blown is because it's cold. I genuinely believe that, and I will stick to my guns on that because rioters love the summer. Rioters love the summer. But this is Minneapolis. Blake disagrees with.

[Blake Neff]

No, I think we've discussed the other reason. I think it's different.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah, There's. There's obvious reasons with. Namely Renee Good not being. She doesn't. She doesn't bear much resemblance to. To George Floyd, let's just put it that way. Bo, are you staying safe out there? Are you keeping a head on your shoulders? You staying vigilant? I mean, like I said, I was watching what happened with Nick Sorter. He got into multiple scuffles. Just so. So we're clear, Nick's been on the show before. Nick's a friend of. Of ours. He got into multiple scuffles with people in his face. It's, it's very unruly. What kind of behavior are you seeing from these agitators?

[Bo Diddle]

Yeah, I'm doing my best to stay out there. I always say a special prayer before I go out in the field that the Lord will protect me. But when I'm out there, there is a lot of hostility. People do not like the media, the leftists do not want what they are doing to be shown to the public. And so anytime you have a camera, they are very, very skeptical of you. So I had multiple people coming over to me saying what are you doing? And then looking over my shoulder and frontlines. We're posting in real time. And so it is something very scary for me when I'm having to post and be 100% objective. But I'm saying what's going on right now? And then they're looking over my shoulder seeing what is what I'm saying about to be posted to the public. They're getting very, very hostile and they're not happy that it's getting posted. So I get confronted quite a bit and they try and report me to the people in the green jacket saying to watch out for me, that I'm like a right wing Nazi when all I'm doing is just reporting what they're doing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you have any indication about just the level of organization? Right. We know a lot of these groups that are protesting are communist front groups. We know that they're, you know, getting at least some level of funding organization. Central Command is dispatching them out. Are you getting a sense of that? When you're out on the streets, are you hearing them talk? Are you hearing them coordinate?

[Bo Diddle]

Yes, there is a lot of organization. So on Friday night, which was the by far the most chaotic, when they were blocking the streets, you would see them talking with one another and talking to the people in the jackets. A lot of times the people that are more involved, that are leading it have some sort of identification, whether it's a yellow jacket or a vest or a hat, something or a billboard or not a billboard, but like a sheet that they're holding that kind of shows you who the leaders are. And those are the people that they're talking to to try and figure out what the next move is. So when the police were blocking them in, when the riot police showed up later, they were all going to them to try and figure out where are we going? And that's when they started to, started to run away because they saw the police trying to get them in a corner. And that's when they ran away, and some of them actually tried to get on the highway. So thankfully, they got stopped from doing that, but they were trying to.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, yeah, there is a level of coordination, sophistication here. And I want the audience to really understand that because this isn't just a random group of, you know, protesters that are out organically. Maybe there is some of that. Certainly you do want to create critical mass so that other people feel like they can come out and join you. But this is coordinated. There are captains on the field. They are. They are marked. They are showing the others where to go. And I think everybody needs to fully appreciate that. Now, you recorded this video. It's gone pretty viral, actually. About 2 million views. There's protesters gathering beside Renee Goode's memorial. So there's been an impromptu memorial placed on the streets.

[Terrence Bates]

You.

[Charlie Kirk]

You recorded some video of what looks like shamans doing some sort of ritual over Renee Good's memorial. This makeshift memorial. What the heck is going on here?

[Bo Diddle]

That is a great question. And when I filmed that video, I was just the comparison. If you look at the way that conservative Christian people reacted to what happened on September 10, and then compare it to the lawlessness and the demonic activity that is going on right now, the two aren't comparable. If you ever question what side you should be on, just let this be a reminder that we're not doing demonic rituals over memorial sides.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow. Yeah. I don't know, Blake. If you. You're from that general vicinity of the world, that general area. Is this. Just try. Is this normal? Is this just.

[Blake Neff]

I can't say I ever saw it, but I guess I can't rule it out.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's.

[Blake Neff]

It's Minneapolis. It's a weird place.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

An evil place.

[Charlie Kirk]

A wicked place.

[Blake Neff]

Well, don't.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, listen, there's good people up there, but there is. There is. They should leave. Yeah, they probably should. So here. I'm gonna play a video here of this is again, B roll so we can talk over it. This is Nick sorter getting attacked. 175. Go ahead and play this. This is a mob surrounding. So. So trying to grab his phone. And he's trying to fight back. And he's, you know, he's pushing back. Then we've got. They. A mob surrounds Nick's car. 176. Right here. So now they're in a car. He's with Cam Higby. And Cam's done work with TPA frontlines before as well. So they surround the car with Cam and they're spray Painting the car later, we see that the windows are crashed out from these frozen. So this is him actually driving away. See, you can see him driving away. A protester attempted to get on. And I say protester. It's an agitator tried to get on the hood of his car and was flung off into a snowbank. As he escapes the melee here with Cam in the passenger seat. And then here's the AfterMath. Go to 170. 189. 189. You can actually see where the car. As soon as we show it to you, you can see that the windows have been destroyed. You can see the spray painting. These people are absolute thugs, and they're intentionally agitating. We're going to get into more of that with border czar Tom Homan, who's coming up later in the hour. Some of these groups are training these people, and they're putting it on social media on how to do it. Yeah. See, this guy gets thrown into a snowbank. I'm just really glad Nick's okay, because Nick is really, really important, especially now. Bo. You stay safe, my friend. Good job. TPSA Front. Front lines. You guys got millions and millions of views from this weekend. Good job, my friend. We'll stay in touch.

[Bo Diddle]

Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, brother. We'll be right back. All right.

[Jay Feely]

Welcome back.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake Neff]

300.

[Charlie Kirk]

300,000,045.

[Blake Neff]

45,300,000,040.

[Charlie Kirk]

As distressed. Blake is not a math guy.

[Blake Neff]

I'm collapsing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Words guy.

[Blake Neff]

I'm collapsing.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's a words guy. Why refi. Refina. Refinance is distressed. You're what?

[Blake Neff]

And a math guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're a math guy. Yeah. No kidding. Well, you know, I'm surprised because normally it's like the. The verbal guys are not the math guys, and the math guys are not the verbal guys.

[Blake Neff]

I got a. I got a 1600 SAT.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did you really get a 1600? I got a.

[Jay Feely]

Which is.

[Blake Neff]

It's easier to get now. So.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, was that out of 2400? No.

[Tom Homan]

No.

[Blake Neff]

So a lot of schools didn't count that. So Nebraska sent me an. I shouldn't distract from the ad.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake Neff]

I mean, I think they've just, they're politically radicalized. So they've been.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why?

[Blake Neff]

They've been frank. I think we're seeing kind of an end cascade of a lot of liberal political mindsets. Like that's why we got open borders under Biden. That's the funny thing. Biden didn't even, he didn't run on open borders. He didn't promise open borders even like internally. It's just that once he took office, he picked these people and they'd reached the stage where their moral universe was such that they could not articulate any valid reason to keep a person out of the United States. So they got policies of, oh, catch and release. Basically. We got policies of, oh, everyone gets their day in court. And, oh, well, we also say we don't want ICE or harassing people just because they missed a court hearing. We have to focus on the criminals, but we also can't have them go to jails to get people. And so you got open borders by default. And I think that's the left today. Like, they've reached this point where they can't articulate a reason for anyone to validly leave the country or be kept out of the country. So anyone who would have a job to do that is a Gestapo, is a fascist, is a Nazi. There's this escalation towards extreme responses. And then they're all emotionally unwell. They say this in surveys. They're not really mentally well calibrated people. And so they're easily whipped up and driven insane. And then they have a culture of protests that embraces attacking cops, attacking cop cars, helping people evade arrest, unlike us.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, and I think, I think all of that is true. I also think that they're doing this to rig elections, to rig the census, to accumulate power politically. Chuck Schumer admits this a couple years ago. And then we have a clip from Senator Mark Warner that came out this weekend, which doubles down on this premise. 200. Chuck Schumer.

[Terrence Bates]

Only way we're going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers, and all of them. Because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers, but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many undocumented there are here.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's actually hilarious. Or however many or however it probably isn't.

[Blake Neff]

11. That's just the number they've used for like 20 years. Yeah, like, it's. They're basically like, oh, it hasn't gone up. Despite us having basically open borders, it's always about equal. They just stopped checking, basically.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so this is what's fascinating. So that was from a couple of years ago. They're admitting that they want amnesty for all the undocumented. Why? Because they incentivize them with free giveaways, welfare flights to wherever they want, debit cards filled with cash, and then they get them to vote. So this was, this was a really, really, I think, telling exchange between CNBC's Joe Kernan and Senator Mark Warner. And I believe this is Actually, from this morning, this is cut 202. So watch this slide of hand. Joe Kernan is asking Senator Mark Warner why Democrats supported deportations under Obama, but now they don't. And Mark Warner refuses to sort of answer the question, but then says we need to legalize them. 202. Now we know Trump has deported or.

[Tom Homan]

Sent back 350, 400,000 people. Barack Obama, your guy, as you called Trump, my guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was 5 million. It was 5 million over eight years. Now we're at 350,000.

[Jay Feely]

What changed with, with Democrats on?

[Charlie Kirk]

I know Biden Let in 12 million. Is it about votes?

[Tom Homan]

Why, why do these people, why isn't.

[Charlie Kirk]

It a crime to be here?

[Tom Homan]

Not that they haven't committed a crime.

[Charlie Kirk]

The border being as open it was.

[Jay Feely]

Under Biden was one of the reasons Trump got elected.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, need to recut that clip. Because the end is actually the most important part where he doesn't answer the question and then he gets to the end and he says there ought to be a path toward legality. That's the key. There ought to be a path towards legality. That is the whole end game here is they want to flood your country, they want to erase American European capitalist culture and they want to flood the country with illegal voters. That's what they want to do.

[Blake Neff]

They want to make this, I mean, they do this with ice, too. They make the situation as broken as possible. So then they can say, oh, well, the situation's really broken. So you need to give in to us on all of these things like that. We flooded in a gazillion people. So they say, oh, there's just so many. We should only focus on the worst criminals. But then they also make it so you can't put a detainer on someone in a prison. So they want to make it as hard as possible to get the criminals, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, that's exactly right. The reason this is flooding into the streets and why you see raids in the streets is because sanctuary jurisdictions will not coordinate with ICE officers to, to get them out of the prisons when they get pulled over, when they commit a crime. And I just want to be very clear, this is not about the worst of the worst. No, we are not going to settle for the worst. The worst. We want all 20 million or whatever the number is out. That is the deal. That's the bargain. That's what we voted for and none of this worst of the worst stuff. We're going to talk about this with Tom Homan. Yeah, we're going to focus on them first, the pedophiles and the child rapists, but we're getting them all out. That's the deal we made in November. We'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is weighing the potential for US Involvement in Iran as that country is in the grips of a violent and deadly government response to protests. Meantime, there's also talk in the White House about rebuilding Venezuela economically, but under US Guidance. Real America's Voice White House correspondent Brian Glenn is live at the White House right now with the very latest. Brian, there's a lot to take in, a lot to unpack.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah, there is. Let's start with Venezuela. President Trump the other day was very critical. The ExxonMobil CEO talking about how they were a little resistant to go into Venezuela.

[Terrence Bates]

And so in reaction to that, President.

[Charlie Kirk]

Trump said, well, maybe they need to, you know, kind of ice him out on the sideline. And Then also about 16 hours ago, President Trump pushed out on his true social a basically doctored Wikipedia page that.

[Terrence Bates]

Had President Trump being the acting president of Venezuela.

[Charlie Kirk]

And of course, that now opens up the conversation, well, who is in charge of Venezuela? Ever since that Maduro and his wife were extracted from the country that has, many have been asking Terrence, who is in control Venezuela?

[Terrence Bates]

Well, according to the doctored Wikipedia page, President Trump is in charge of Venezuela. We'll figure out the reality. But either way, it is big business as it relates to Venezuela and getting that country back on track. Let's switch gears, though, and talk about Iran, which is really the global story right now as all eyes are on Iran and what President Trump might do to intervene in that situation. Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just hours ago, I saw a report.

[Terrence Bates]

That the US Was in the, quote, advanced stages of planning some sort of attack on Iran.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now, I know that they have been.

[Terrence Bates]

Ramping up resources in the area, and.

[Charlie Kirk]

Of course, that has been all of the talk here at the White House as well.

[Terrence Bates]

And if you look at the protests.

[Charlie Kirk]

And how they have really escalated just.

[Terrence Bates]

In the last two, three weeks, we.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just had some, some representative on the morning show today, and you and I talked a little bit about that. It's, it's certainly something that everyone has their eyes on. So could this attack be intimate the next couple days? We'll find out.

[Terrence Bates]

Absolutely. And we, of course, will be checking back with you at the White House for the very latest. Brian Glenn, chief White House correspondent, reporting this morning from the grinds there at the White House. That's going to do it for us. Now let's get you back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Jay Feely]

This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are honored to welcome now Tom Homan, border czar for the Trump administration, dear friend of the show and I believe an American folk hero. I think he represents a lot more than he maybe understands. Maybe he does. Tom Homan, welcome back to the show. Honored to have you, sir. Huge weekend that we saw. Lots of chaos in Minneapolis, Los Angeles and elsewhere. Give us the state of play right now. Are we feeling like our brave ICE agents are safe? Do you feel like they're being protected? Tell us what you can tell us, sir.

[Tom Homan]

Well, we're protecting them the best we can. We've increased resources in these locations. But as I said for several months, the attacks on ice, the hateful rhetoric, especially by politicians, mayors and governors and members of Congress, it's just some flame detentions out there. And I said for months, if the hateful rhetoric continued to increase, there'd be bloodshed. And there has been, unfortunately. And this past few days with the shooting in Minneapolis with, I would have thought it tamped the rhetoric down somewhat from these politicians, but they doubled down and they wanted car officer a murderer, which is going to further inflame that small percentage on the left that they're already nuts. They already don't make sense, don't understand what's going on, and that just empowers them to do something stupid. So I think the job of an ICE agent right now is more dangerous than it ever has been. I mean, threats are, you know, assaults themselves are up over 1,300%. So I spent a lot of time this week on shows just begging for, you know, let's just stop the hateful rhetoric, let this investigation play out, and we'll see where it goes from there. But attacking ICE agent and the work of men and women of ICE doesn't fix anything. It just creates more chaos.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, absolutely. And here's where I'm getting concerned, Mr. Borders are, is that we have, you know, you've got this Philadelphia sheriff, her name's Rochelle Bilal. She says, you don't want that smoke. And then she goes on, CNN is asked about it with Aaron Burnett, and she doubles down and I'm gonna play the clip and get your reaction on the backside. 204, the sheriff's office, it deals with transportation. So basically I said, you would not be able to hide. Nobody will whisk you away. And if he charges you, then you can be arrested.

[Terrence Bates]

What I was saying is that when I said you come in this city to do a crime, we will bring.

[Charlie Kirk]

The smoke to you.

[Terrence Bates]

People are tired of these people coming.

[Charlie Kirk]

Into the city masked up, basically all masked up and pulling people out and causing havoc. So she's gonna bring the smoke. What you're seeing now is you're seeing an increase of this rhetoric, whether it's Jacob Frey in Minneapolis saying get the F out of here, we don't want you here. Are they trying to create a standoff between state and local and federal officers?

[Tom Homan]

Mr. Homan, look, absolutely, she can bring the smoke, go bring the fire. I mean, bottom line is her speaks largely to her intelligence. So look, we're going to continue doing this job. I don't know who she is or why a law enforcement official who took a sworn oath to enforce the laws and protect her communities would not want to work with ICE who are out there wrestling the worst of the worst. We're taking public safety threats out of her jurisdiction and not just taking them off the street, taking them out of the country because number one, they're here illegally. Number two, they committed a crime against US citizens, some horrendous crimes. In Minneapolis, you know, we looked at a number of the releases we, a number of arrests we did in the last couple weeks and there's numerous people we arrested for child rape, child sodomy. We're making her community safer. So you know, you're welcome. So she can continue to attack, make all the threats she wants. I don't know what bringing smoke means, but we can continue to bring the fire to those people who are public safety threats and in the country illegally. We're coming for them. We're going to keep doing what we're doing and we're going to remove them and make that community safer.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, and to your point, throw up 186. This is a list that DHS has provided, I think first to Bill Malusian over at Fox News of some of the these criminals that have been abducted from the streets, apprehended. And these are, I mean these are a Lootian illegal alien convicted of strong armed sodomy of a boy and of a girl with deportation orders since 2018 convicted of sexual assault and sodomy of a girl under 1312 year old, strong arm rape of a 12 year old girl. The list goes on. I mean these are bad, bad people. So many of them. By the way, it's sexual assault of young people and convicted of homicide Convicted of three counts of homicide from El Salvador, Somalia, Mexico, Laos. What the heck is the argument to keep these people on the streets? I mean, you've got. I watched this clip, Tom, of this young mom out there saying, you know, I'm out here protesting because we want Minneapolis to be a welcoming place for my kids. These are child rapists on the street. What? I mean, how. Go ahead. Yes, please.

[Tom Homan]

In my opinion, rape of a child, it doesn't get more sickening and criminal than that. And we've arrested a lot of those people. And so when that mom says she wants a safe street for her children, I agree with her. And the way we make the street safer is to res public safety threats, criminal threats, and take them off as street. I mean, I really think a lot of these politicians, and I mean this, I think they don't want President Trump to have a win. They hate this president so much, but they'd rather have these people walking the street and not showing that ISIS being successful and keeping President Trump's promise to the American people to make these streets safe again. There's no other reason. Common sense just defies logic for anybody that would vilify the men and women who are taking child rapists off the street. We're in a place I've never seen before where the ones who protect community safety are the bad guys and the ones who rape children are the victims. So again, they can scream and yell all they want. We're gonna keep doing what we're doing. Matter of fact, we're gonna double down. Since they wanna attack ICE officers in Minneapolis, we're sending a hell of a lot more agents there to keep doing what we're doing. I just wish that people will either go to ice.gov, go to and look at the data. Don't believe the media releases saying that we're separating families and hitting schools and going into churches. It's ridiculous. I just. And that's why I'm out there. This administration's out there every day trying to explain to the people exactly what we're doing. Because a lot of the media is given false information that further inflames beyond the hateful rhetoric.

[Blake Neff]

So, Czar Homan, I guess since we've seen these signs from Philadelphia's police chief.

[Charlie Kirk]

Whatever, her office, Sheriff.

[Jay Feely]

Police.

[Blake Neff]

Sheriff, yeah, and others. And there's just this rhetoric of, oh, we're going to protect you from ice, we might order police to stop ice. Do you have training on this? Do you have an advisory? What are ICE agents told to do if God forbid they're trying to make an arrest and police step in the way and say, we will not allow you to do that.

[Tom Homan]

Then he is impeding a federal law enforcement officer, which is a felony. So you want to arrest a United States agent, try it. Because we're not playing games. I mean, if you impede, if you interfere with a federal officer enforcing the law, that is a felony. And there is 0,0 number of people were not going to hold accountable for that. It's the U.S. attorney's office. Thank God we got Pam Bondi as the Attorney General. They made a commitment. They're going to prosecute these people. So I can't believe I even have to say that, that, you know, a law enforcement officer can't arrest ICE agent because that would be impediment. So I think the sheriff's talking a lot of blunder. I don't think she really knows what she's talking about. But I think the President has been clear. The ICE officers are going to enforce this law without apology. And there is, and there is zero discretion on somebody's impedance. If you impede an ICE officer, you're going to be prosecuted.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good. Tom, there's, you know, we're looking at this Minnesota ICE watch, you know, Renee Good's, I guess, partner or whatever wife in quotation marks basically was, was following this group. They, they throw these images up. This is from 192 to 195 guys. And it's, these are images that you can see. Each de arrest is a shaking off, which is, which is to say each one is a micro intifada which can spread and inspire others until we may finally shake off this noxious ruling order altogether. The next one, tactic number four, pressuring police to release the arrestee. You know, they're, they're, they're training people. Tactic two, pulling and pushing an officer off of an arrestee and, or breaking their grip on an arrestee. Tactic one, using a secure grip, like a gable grip that's illustrated above. Hug the arrestee and pull them out of danger. They are instructing agitators on how to disrupt your law enforcement officials, your federal law enforcement officials in the streets in the middle of a law enforcement operation. I think the average public, you know, especially a Trump supporter that supports mass deportations, wants to know why the heck are these groups allowed to even operate? Why is this still a thing? Are you coordinating with DOJ and Pam Bondi to root out these communist front groups?

[Tom Homan]

Absolutely. You know, hsi, ICE is working very closely with FBI. DOJ to find out who's funding this, who's behind this, and they'll be held accountable, too. So this is not, you know, this is not something we haven't thought about, something we're not engaged in. But I can tell you right now as I sit here, there are numerous criminal investigations going on right now to uncover who's behind all this. Get back to this is about President Trump. And they don't want President Trump have a wing because where were they in 2012 when the Obama administration arrested removed 409,000? Where were they and where were they the last four years when the Biden administration had over 500,000 children smuggling in this country? They lost track of 300,000 of them. Where were they? Where were they when a quarter million Americans died from fentanyl overdoses that came across an open border? Where were they when sex trafficking on women and children hit an all time high in open border? I mean, they're picking and choosing their anger. I say the most humane thing that we can do is secure the border. Securing the border saves lives. And one of the reasons we have the most secure border in the history of this nation is because ICE is out there showing there's consequences. There's no free ride. So we're saving lives by the thousands. And they don't recognize that. So again, this is politics over public safety, politics over common sense. These people need to be educated. But again, on your question, there are going to be people held accountable, a lot of criminal investigations going on. We will find who's behind this and who's funding it, and they'll be held accountable and they'll be prosecuted.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good. Well, I mean, Mr. Homan, we, we have your back 100%. I know you know that, but you know, we've got to root out these communist front groups, the funding networks working with treasury, the doj. We have you guys. You're back. We're praying for you. God bless you. We'll talk to you again soon.

[Tom Homan]

Yeah, thank.

[Charlie Kirk]

You.

[Tom Homan]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So we had the Golden Globes this weekend. I'm sure you didn't notice because I didn't either until I started show prep for today's show. Like's laughing already. Golden Globes. Yeah. Q Laugh Track.

[Blake Neff]

The, the thing besides the Oscars, which you don't watch either anymore.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, it is kind of a weird deal. When I was growing up, this was always like a huge deal, was a huge press moment and they've just completely fallen off a cliff.

[Blake Neff]

Well, I think, I think COVID ruined it really is what it was. Well, woke stuff made it bad. But then Covid. It's just people don't go to as many movies and now there's like Netflix movies that get award. It's just, it's not the same.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's not the same. But one of the things that made news is because it's not about movies. It's not about entertaining people. It's about political activism and all these lefties that live behind their gated communities and their mansions in Beverly Hills and elsewhere, this is their opportunity to act like we're just one of you. We're just one of the people we care about. The little guy. So throw up. 209. It's an image of that's going around. Ice out. Be good. 209. We've got it. Another one here. 210. You're just seeing all these celebrities wearing the be good sticker. Here's Mark Ruffalo, the communist actor who chimes in 211 Be good.

[Blake Neff]

It reminds me, you know those tweets you'll.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, oh, the clip. Sorry.

[Jay Feely]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

211 her.

[Jay Feely]

This is for the people in the United States who are terrorized and scared today. I know I'm one of them. I love this country. And what I'm seeing here happening is not America.

[John Jubilee]

Mark, why do you feel that this platform is still useful to spread a message like this?

[Jay Feely]

Listen, I, I, I want to pretend like this is. I want to be here to celebrate.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I am here to celebrate.

[Jay Feely]

And I'm proud to have a Golden Globe nomination. But also, this is not normal anymore. And so I don't know how I.

[Charlie Kirk]

How I could be quiet.

[Jay Feely]

And I'm feeling a little sick, so.

[Charlie Kirk]

It'S hard to BS right now, so.

[Blake Neff]

Sounds like he's about to cry.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, he's. He's a beta, I guess.

[Blake Neff]

The racist.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's a beta male. And he's a total, he's a total floozy. I cannot stand this guy because he, he acts like he's, you know, so in touch with we the people at this grassroots level where the Be good. Listen, nobody is celebrating her death, Renee Goode's death. Nobody is as far as I can tell. And yet you have Jasmine frickin Crockett, this woman. This happened last week. We talked about it then. This is just insane. 197, remember when Charlie Kirk got killed?

[Alika Leban]

Do you, do you remember what our response was? Our response wasn't to sit there and pretend like it was okay. Is it okay because you have a badge? Because the last time I checked, allegedly.

[Charlie Kirk]

No one is above the law.

[Alika Leban]

Can y' all not just have a little bit of courage and humanity?

[Charlie Kirk]

A child. Dear God, if. If I see anybody else compare what happened with Renee good to Charlie, I'm gonna lose it. I'm gonna lose it on air.

[Blake Neff]

Those clips we played with Bo Diddle perfectly capture it. Which is, after what happened to Charlie, you could not have found a single clip anywhere in the country that resembled that mob surrounding that car, attacking the windows, menacing people. It just didn't happen. It did not happen. We had a hundred thousand people. We had 80,000 people in the stadium and 200,000 people outside in the area in Phoenix. And I don't know that there was a single arrest. I don't know that there was a single issue.

[Charlie Kirk]

There was well run event ever.

[Blake Neff]

We had plenty of. We had people come to our memorial. We had people hold memorials around the world. And all of them were completely law abiding, prayerful, loving affairs. We got all the testimonies of people having their spiritual revival. And here we're getting. Instead of people posting spiritual revival stuff, they're posting. Here's how you can avoid. Help people avoid getting arrested after they attack a police officer. Here's how you can help undermine the laws of this country. Here's why you should shoot an ICE officer in the face. Like that's what they're doing. And that contrast, it needs to be highlighted over and over and over again because it's probably the most fundamental part of our political divide at this point. You have to really highlight that gap. Frankly, it's just. It's just so outrageous and it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's absolutely infuriating. If I see it happen again, I'm going to lose it on air. I promise you I will lose it on air. Because Charlie died talking to college students and debating, sharing ideas, using his own words, with their own words. She died by confronting a police officer. Well, he's an ICE agent.

[Blake Neff]

They're police officers.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're police officers. Law enforcement officer. Yeah. He's not a local police officer. They have the power to arrest. They have the power to. Exactly. She did it by goading him, by taunting him, by getting in the middle of the street and trying to impede law enforcement. Now, I do not celebrate her death. But you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. And unfortunately for Renee, good. She found out that. She found that out the hard way. And I do. Again, I do not celebrate it. I don't like it. I think it's a tragedy. But you do not get in the way of a law enforcement officer who's trying to enforce the law. You don't taunt them. You get pulled over by a cop, you put your hands at 10 and 2, you put the keys on the dash, you roll down the window, you say, yes, officer, no, officer. Whatever you say, officer. That's the way you interact with law enforcement. And the fact that we've gotten away from that as a country where the left thinks they can just go in and taunt them and harass them and train other agitators to avoid arrest is insanity.

[Blake Neff]

And it buttons up those buttons they had at the Golden Globes. Be good. It says it all. It reminds me of that tweet or whatever. I've heard several different versions of it where it's like, the left will say, like, kindness is everything. And what they really mean is they, like, want to shoot your entire family. The people who say be good. Like, the people who say be good would make excuses for Tyler Robinson.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, no, I'm. It was. I think that's a great insight, actually, by the way. It's be best. Okay? We all know it's be best. Shout out. Melania. I guess the grammatically forgot about questionable be best.

[Blake Neff]

You can make. You can change grammar if you're. If you're a Trump, you're allowed to make up your own grammar, as we've established.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, we're pro immigrants. We love Melania, okay? But this is. This is what's insane about this is we would not have these situations to begin with if sanctuary cities would simply coordinate everybody. There's a changing definition of what a deportation is, by the way, under Clinton and Obama, because, you know, you had a Democrat in office, and they hadn't completely lost their minds yet. They'd mostly lost it, but they hadn't completely lost their minds yet. They would coordinate with local municipalities and hand over illegals to ICE and they would get deported. Right? Simple as that. Now they force us to go out in the streets and have these confrontations and these rundowns. Like, what happened in Portland, where you got a trend to a Ragua prostitution ring. You know, Runner, it's been bad for a while.

[Blake Neff]

True story. When I was in middle school, we got, like, a propaganda video showed to us in my public middle school, which, like, implied it was evil to call ICE on somebody who was an illegal.

[Charlie Kirk]

Immigrant in a public school in South Dakota.

[Blake Neff]

Public school in South Dakota.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I mean, that just shows the level of rot I mean, the level of indoctrination. I'm just, I'm so sick of these moral hypocrites like Mark Ruffalo, who lives behind their fricking gated mansions in Los Angeles wherever he lives. And he has the gall to chime in and say, be good, Don't. No, do not be like Renee Goode. Be the opposite of Renee Good. Coordinate, be respectful with law enforcement. Do not impede, do not obstruct. Do not taunt law enforcement. Do not be like Renee Good. Jay Feely joins us next.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. As always, it's nice to have you along for the ride. Hydration may be just what the doctor ordered when it comes to curing your obesity and your depression. My next guest is a believer, and he's in fact, making his clients believers as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

I was at my doctor's office.

[Alika Leban]

I was in a bad state of depression.

[Charlie Kirk]

She said, annette, you're going to have to lose weight.

[Alika Leban]

I started out in November at 194lbs. My final check in weight the other day was 135.4.

[Tom Homan]

Talk about pant size.

[Alika Leban]

I am constantly going out and buy new pants.

[Terrence Bates]

The man that helped make that a reality energized health founder John Jubilee. John, good to see you.

[John Jubilee]

Great to see you, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

All right, so let's talk about how obesity and depression may be related.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah. Well, there's a lot of, there's a lot of reasons and a lot of medical studies for that, Terrence. And you know, of course, when somebody grows up and they're in a normal size, there's just a natural side of it, Right. Like none of us want to have to go keep buying bigger and bigger and bigger clothes. But physiologically, Terrence, what happens is all that visceral and subcutaneous fat, it's suffocating our organs. And when our organs are getting suffocated, it is depressing. I mean, it's physically depressing because the body is being put in trauma. You know, it's like if somebody put, you know, a hundred pound weight on your chest when you're trying to sleep, that's what that weight feels on all day long. And so that mentally becomes very draining to us, just that extra weight. There's even a scripture in the Bible, Terence. It said, let us lay aside the weight that does so easily beset us.

[Tom Homan]

Oh, wow.

[Terrence Bates]

I never knew that scripture. But I can use that now as an excuse for why I may be adding some Pounds. So talk about intracellular hydration and how it factors into this conversation and helping to pull back on the depression and on the obesity that might beset us.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah, so we. We have clients, Terrence, that. And by the way, one out of four, Terrence, one out of four people watching us right now is taking a medication for either depression or anxiety. It is an absolute epidemic in the United States of America because of, you know, all of our oxidative stress and our. Our hurriedness, our busyness in life. One out of four people, Terrence, is on a mood altering to try to alter their mood in a good way. Medication. And I want to encourage people that we have had thousands, if not tens of thousands of people that were on 1, 2, 3, even we had one client was on 5, and they get off all their medication. Why? Because intercellular hydration hydrates the biggest hydrated necessity. Hydrated organ in your body, which is your brain. When your brain is hydrated, you create new neural pathways and new brain synapses activity. You basically supercharge, and then you do not need the medication. And cool side effect like this lady, she lost 60 pounds of fat. But more importantly for her, Terrence, she got rid of her depression and she got rid of the weight.

[Terrence Bates]

So how do people start the process? Hearing about it is one thing. Actually, starting the protocol is another.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah, listen, let me encourage people. Look, just book a call, guys.

[Tom Homan]

Go.

[John Jubilee]

On our website. There is a little masterclass. You could watch Chelsea and I for about 15 minutes and then just book your call. You have nothing to lose. But when you have depression or anxiety or you have a weight problem, this is the solution. So when you find a solution, all you got to do is pick up your phone. You know, actually today, all you gotta do is click on your website first click on a website, watch a little masterclass, and then book your call. The solution is right there. It's a couple clicks and a phone call away.

[Terrence Bates]

And all of those initial things you talked about are free. It's at no cost other than time.

[John Jubilee]

It is no cost. It's just. Guys, just go log on. Energizehealth.com. watch a masterclass. Book your call. There's no obligation. Doesn't cost you a penny. Totally free.

[Terrence Bates]

All right, that's what I like to hear. If it's free, it's from me. Always good to see you, my friend.

[John Jubilee]

Great to see you, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

Appreciate it. And once again, folks, the information is there on your screen. Energizedhealth.com. log on, go ahead and Watch the masterclass, book your call and at least take a first step towards health.

[Alika Leban]

Sam.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. We are very honored to have a guest in studio. Now, he is going to be the next congressman from Arizona's 1st congressional district. And that is Jay Feely. Jay Feely, longtime NFL kicker, then NFL broadcaster, and you are now Trump. Endorsed. Speaker Mike Johnson endorsed. Welcome to the show.

[Jay Feely]

Thank you. It's awesome to be on here. Huge fan of Charlie. Just watching him, his heart for people he cared about, people regardless of their political persuasion. I just love the way he communicated, how effective he was and, you know, just honored to be on this show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, it's great to have you here. And I was we've been watching the developments of your race as they've kind of come. And, you know, there's, there's been a few twists and turns, but now you're Trump endorsed. Speaker Mike Johnson just endorsed you. We've got the, the graphics there. You are running for Arizona's 1st congressional district. So give, give the audience that's national. We have a national audience, but we also have a big Arizona audience. Give them kind of a feel of what your, what geographically your district is.

[Jay Feely]

Well, it's Scottsdale, if you think of Scottsdale, it's Scottsdale, it's Fountain Hills, it's Paradise Valley, a little bit of Phoenix. It's that area of kind of north Phoenix. It's a very affluent district that cares about the economy. You know, they, over 50% of the people in that district have a college degree or more than a BA the vast majority are employed by private companies and they care dramatically about the economy and where the economy's going. I think if you look at what President Trump is doing, just the numbers that have come out recently, they're going to love that. Over 4% GDP, almost 2, 2 and a half percent inflation, bringing down inflation, continuing to get jobs investment into our country. You know, you go back and you look in the, in the 80s, you know, we had positive net investment in other countries and that at minus 1 trillion. Warren Buffett said it was unsustainable. You know, in 2024, we had minus 26 trillion in investment into our country versus out of our country and no one talked about it. And President Trump is doing the work to bring that investment, using tariffs as the threat to make countries invest back in our country, bringing trillions back into our country and continue to make an economy that's going to help everybody. And you know, you listen to Lutnick the other day on the all in podcast, he was very positive. I think we could have over 5% GDP in the fourth quarter and going forward, maybe 6% throughout 2026. That would be enormous for not only the midterms and Republicans going into the midterms, but for the American people in general.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, the Atlanta Fed had it. I think it was 5.3 their estimate. They revised their estimate for Q4. So we're, we're waiting to see what that number ultimately is. But that's a huge number that we haven't even dreamed of in this country for a while. And then we've got. The Supreme Court is probably going to come down with a ruling on Wednesday, is what I'm hearing. As far as the tariff ruling, which we'll see. We'll see, we'll see there, because I agree with you. I believe that President Trump, I believe economic warfare is. You may not like it, you may not like those words, but it is a reality. Right. We have to have Western hemispheric dominance. You're seeing that in Venezuela. You're seeing it with the way that President Trump is using tariffs as a, not only a political or an economic tool, but as a foreign policy tool. Right. And these things ultimately are meant to enrich the homeland and enrich your residents in places like Scottsdale, Paradise Valley. It's a close district. Right. Schweikart holds it. So it's an R seat now. You know, tell us about some of that. It's a very, it's a, it's the march.

[Jay Feely]

I mean, it's like plus two, plus one. That's what he's won by when he's held the seat, you know, and it's going to be one of the most important swing seats in the country. And it'll probably be the seat that the Democrats spend the most money in the country trying to go out and flip that. And it's why I decided to move. Ideally, you don't want to move districts. You know, I lived in Gilbert. That's where I originally was running. President asked me to move, then Republican leadership asked me to move. They didn't feel that we had anybody running for that seat that could hold a seat that could win it. So they all called me and said, hey, Jay, we need you to move into CD1 and run in that district. And I said yes, for the good of the party. The whole reason I decided to leave broadcasting. Listen, I love my job. I only had to work five months of the year. I got paid really well. I Got to do football, you know, that's what I'd done the last 10 years after playing for 14 years. And it was a tremendous blessing. And I decided to leave broadcasting because, you know, because I felt like God was pressing me to do it, to do something with more meaning. I think back to something that Charlie always said that really resonated with me, which was, you know, I'm much more concerned about what God wants for me than I am with what I want from God, you know, and, and if I was selfish, I would have just said, I'm gonna keep my broadcasting job and it's fun and it's easy and I don't risk anything. But I, but I've always been more concerned about trying to follow the path of where I think I can help people. When we were, when we were playing, my wife and I always wanted to use the platform that, that God gave us to have an impact on people. You know, and I view politics the same way, maybe somewhat idealistic, but your job is to create those equal opportunities, those pathways to success for everybody. You know, I think that's what President Trump is doing. You know, it was not the easy decision to try to go after and rebalance trade. You know, he could have just extended the tax cuts, tried to create energy dominance and more energy production, which is going to bring down inflation, bring down costs, and kind of coast it into the midterms. But they took the hard path, which was, no, we have to bring investment back into this country. We have to reset trade parameters and we got to look at the long term perspective because we have 38 trillion in debt growing at a trillion every 100 days, and nobody talks about it. You know, those are the issues that I think, you know, that, that sit out there. And Congress doesn't do anything about either side. You know, this massive debt growing, the lack of investment into our country and who pays the price? And Charlie always talked about it, it was the average working, everyday man and woman. That's who pays the price, and that's who paid the price of the Biden policies. You know, with the 9% inflation and the printing of money. And they didn't care about the impact on America. They cared about the impact on their politics, despite the impact on Americans.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and when you have that inflationary environment too, guess who gets hurt? It's the working men and women, muscular class, the people that don't have investments and, you know, stocks and equities, they're, they're getting out. The value of those equities is outstripping their ability to earn and get into the financial ladder. Get that first rung in the ladder. I. I want to just make sure our audience is aware of this. So, you know, I've been asking around about you, Jay. You know, everybody has. Know that we were going to have you on. And one of the things that came back again and again, and you alluded to this in kind of what you were talking about, why you're running.

[Jay Feely]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is that you're just a strong Christian man and your kids are. You have four children, right?

[Jay Feely]

We have four of our own, and then we have two that we kind of adopted from Haiti. We didn't legally adopt them, but I started going down doing projects after the earthquake, rebuilding homes with a group called Mission of Hope down there. Awesome organization. And, you know, two guys that were our translators that we just kind of fell in love with. And, you know, I decided, my wife and I, that we could help them. And legally, they went through. They got an education visa. Wender did, and he came here, moved into our house. Was the hardest thing I ever did, to be honest with you, because as a dad of four young kids, you don't want to do anything that may put them at jeopardy and have a negative impact. But he moved into our house. We got him into Grand Canyon University.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, good.

[Jay Feely]

He got a degree. Did awesome well.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's. I just. I wanted to highlight that because it's something that everybody. Everybody said about you that I asked was that he's a really solid Christian guy, and we need more of that. We. I. You know, I believe, as Charlie believed, that this nation will fail if we lose sight of our Christian roost. Western civilization is Christendom, whether or not people follow it or not. I mean, that is our foundation. You know, the. We need to keep our eyes centered and fixed on God. God has his providential hand on this nation. I believe it. And we need leaders that acknowledge that. So I just want to give you a shout out there. But also, when we were coordinating the memorial for Charlie, you had a hand in that, and you helped us get in touch with the people, help us coordinate the stadium.

[Jay Feely]

Well, we were heartbroken. My wife and I literally were walking out of the White House when we found out about Charlie. She burst into tears. I was just gutted. And we laid in bed that night, and she said, you know, are you sure you want to do this? And I said, I have more resolve now. I know that God has put me in this place at this time for this reason. And I just reached out and hey, what can we do to help? You know, we wanted to donate to you, help defer some of the cost of the memorial. I wanted to bring people that may donate to your organization and just try to support him because I loved what he stood for. I loved that he was willing to have conversations with people that completely disagreed with him, that he mandated the people there give them the respect to be able to communicate. And then he communicated with a heart for people. It wasn't just, let me tell you why you're wrong, and I'm so smart and I know all the things to be able to counter your argument. But he had a heart to try to help people change their viewpoint. And really everything started with his faith and his trust in Jesus and trying to have an impact on people for Christ.

[Charlie Kirk]

And you helped us secure the venue or at least help connect some of the dots behind the scenes. So if you want to know how we were able to pull that off, look no further than Jay Feely helping connect some of the dots there to get the State Farm Stadium and get access to that. So more with Jay Feely, who's running for Arizona's 1st congressional district, when we get right back. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, Carol. Caroline Levitt is live from. It looks like pebble beach giving an impromptu gaggle for the press. We will monitor that and see if there's any news made.

[Blake Neff]

Our audience doesn't know what pebble beach is. She's at the White House.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, at pebble beach at the White House. She's a. That's what they call it. That's what they got.

[Jay Feely]

She's inside. She's a stud. I absolutely love her. I love watching how she handles the media there, puts them in their place and does it with a smile on her face.

[Charlie Kirk]

She does it. She does do it with a smile. You know who else does it with a smile is you, Jay.

[Tom Homan]

You.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I want this.

[Blake Neff]

This.

[Charlie Kirk]

Your background is great. So you walk in the office and my first question, I was like, not about politics at all. I was like, what's the longest field goal?

[Jay Feely]

Right.

[Charlie Kirk]

And what was the answer?

[Jay Feely]

It was 61. It was long when I was playing. But now they're making, you know, all the way back to 70 yard field goal.

[Charlie Kirk]

61 is a really long ways to kick a field goal. And then you. So then you. You went into broadcasting.

[Jay Feely]

I did.

[Charlie Kirk]

And you broadcasted four Super Bowls.

[Jay Feely]

Four Super Bowls. Kind of crazy.

[Charlie Kirk]

You were doing sideline analysis at that point.

[Blake Neff]

Right?

[Jay Feely]

Sideline in the playoffs, like for the super bowl up in the booth. I was the second kicker ever in the booth after Pat Summerall, the legendary Pat Summer, Susie Wiles's father. So the connection to the White House, which is great and, and just honored to be able to do that, like, it was. It was a challenge. You know, people are like, what does a kicker know about football? You know, so I love that challenge aspect of it. To go in there and say, hey, I actually know the game, understand the game, I study the game, and I can communicate it on air.

[Blake Neff]

And you also told us. I didn't know this. You lived with Tom Brady for a while, right?

[Jay Feely]

Well, we did it like in the summers. Yeah. Michigan. We're at Michigan for four years ago. He was my holder for one year, which is great. I got him, you know, a picture of him holding the balls when I was kicking. And Tom is a great guy and somebody that, you know, just shows real leadership. You know, when you have a heart for service and you care about people and you put them above yourself, that's why the Patriots were so successful when he was there. You know, I hope to bring that into politics. You know, I care about people. I want to have an impact for people. I think we need people that have the ability to communicate. I think it's one of the things that translates directly into politics from broadcasting. I was on live on air for three hours, you know, every Sunday on national tv. When we lost Charlie, we lost one of the great, if not the great, communicator for conservative causes. No one can step up and fill the void that he's left. But we need people willing to step into that void and try to be able to communicate and do it effectively and do it with a heart for people.

[Charlie Kirk]

I really mean this, that, you know, Charlie was desperate for a Republican Party that was as conservative as its voters. And to hear you, you know, bring that up as an inspiration and. And then just knowing kind of your reaction to when Charlie was assassinated and. And the things you did to help behind the scenes. You know, there's all. It's funny, I was telling Tyler, there's all these conspiracy theories that we like, planned the memorial six months out or something like that. No, the reason we were able to do it is because we had friends like you that had connections within with NFL ownership to help open up the stadium. And it wasn't just you. There was other people helping. I don't want to over overstate things, but I mean, it was really amazing. And I just. I keep hearing you say this, you know, this note about how you were inspired by Charlie. And it really warms the heart because what Charlie's enduring legacy is going to be a Republican Party that's remade and inspired by the things that he did, by the message that he.

[Jay Feely]

My biggest disappointment has been the way the Republican Party has acted after his death, that we haven't coalesced together. When you look at the parties, they've never been further apart ideologically. We have so much to go after to show the distinct differences in beliefs and what our vision is for this country between the left and the right. And there's been so much infighting on the Republican Party to try to, I don't know, fill the void of Charlie and where he was. And, you know, we need to come together and not. Not fight against each other, but fight against, you know, the people on the other side. When you listen to Jasmine Crockett and Congressman Omar Ilhan and the things that they believe, and you look at Mamdani and why he was elected, you know, Charlie talked about affordability all the time and the fact that we need young people to have a vested interest in this country. They have to have ownership in this country. If they don't own a home and they don't have ownership, they're not invested in this country. That's why somebody like Mondami can get elected in New York. That's why, you know, so many young people are disillusioned with the political process because they throw their hands up. They're like, I got massive debt from college. I can't get a great job, and interest rates are crazy high. I can't buy a home. So I just want the government to do it for me.

[Blake Neff]

We've had a very interesting swerve from the president just these last couple weeks. He's on that, on homes. He says he doesn't want large institutional.

[Jay Feely]

Love it to own it.

[Blake Neff]

And also he's calling for a 10% interest cap on credit cards as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right. Which is potentially problematic. But. But otherwise. But he's signaling in the right direction that he's worried about affordability. He's worried about, you know, so much of our economic system benefits economic incumbents. Right? And so we have. That was the message that Charlie had for Gen Z. It's like, listen, the American dream is alive and well. We have to focus on it. Because, yeah, we had major gains in 2024 with the next generation, but we got to stay on it. We. This is not, you know, the cement is not dry yet.

[Jay Feely]

He brought hope to young people, and that's what our politicians need to do. That's what Republicans need to do. We need to give them a vision of why they should believe in our policies and how they're going to give them opportunity. You can't dictate outcomes because you can't control individual behaviors. But you can give the right opportunities to people and say, if you work hard and you make the right decisions, here's your pathway to success. I think so many young people right now don't see that they don't have hope, that if I do the right things, that I'm going to be successful. That's our job as a Republican Party, is to make that argument and make it understandable for young people and listen and for everybody. Most people are just trying to work their job, provide for their family. They want the government stay out of their business, you know, and they want the right economic environment to be able to be successful. That's what most people want. You know, they don't want their government in their lives telling them what to do, how to live their lives, what decision to make. They just want you to do the right things. Unfortunately, we had four years of a Biden administration that let 10 to 20 million illegals come in, that raised the price of rent, that raised the cost of affordability. You had prices go up because they got on a snap and they're using those. Snap is raising grocery prices, you know, and then the interest rates go up because they're printing money, you know, which is going to drive up inflation, you know, and you get 9% inflation. All of a sudden the average person is going, what happened? Like, I can't afford. Afford even the things I used to be able to afford. And I don't have hope for a future.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and I think ultimately you're talking about giving up on the system. Young people. You're seeing this in Minneapolis. I think a lot of people have given up on America. They've given up on the idea of America. They want to see it all burn. You know, these communist front groups are getting funded and the protesters are organizing and. And you know, you got the Golden Globes wearing be good buttons when so hypocritical.

[Jay Feely]

I heard you guys talking about it earlier. I loved what you said. Because when you look back at Obama and what he did with deportations, 80% of which were at due process. They talk about due process all the time. His deportations were not with due process. But nobody complained. The only person even said anything was aclu. They wrote like four articles about it, but nobody in the mainstream media had any issue because it was a Democrat president doing it well.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I want to reiterate a point you made. This is going to be one of the most expensive congressional races in the country, Arizona 1. Your website is J. Feely for congress.com Jay feely4congress.com Please put that up on the lower, please, Everybody that can chip in. Jay's a good guy, Good Christian man. Very.

[Jay Feely]

I mean, we're going to keep this seat.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to keep this seat because a guy like you has, has taken the hard route.

[Jay Feely]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's throwing your hat in the ring and you're doing the hard thing for the sake of your country.

[Jay Feely]

More importantly than keeping the seat, we're going to keep the house in 2026. I'm gonna do everything I can to make sure we do that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. Hardest question yet, Tony Romo or Tom Brady? What do you mean, a broadcaster?

[Jay Feely]

Who's a better broadcaster? Yeah, Romo. Who's a better quarterback?

[Charlie Kirk]

Brady.

[Blake Neff]

I really liked Brady over this weekend.

[Jay Feely]

He's getting better. Tom's getting better. That's for sure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, man, these are controversial.

[Jay Feely]

That's right. I might get a text after that one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. Jay Feely, thankful.

[Jay Feely]

Awesome to be here. Thank you guys for what you do, standing up for conservative causes.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this REAL America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell is under criminal investigation related to the central bank's renovation of its Washington, D.C. headquarters. The U.S. attorney's office in the District of Columbia is looking into whether Powell was being honest during his congressional testimony about that project. The New York Times reporting. At issue is whether the Fed chair accurately characterized the scope and the cost of the renovation project. The price tag for the renovation has climbed to about two and a half billion with the B dollars. You probably remember the infamous face off between President Trump and Powell over the project's cost overrun. The commander in chief publicly dressed Powell down over the funding while touring the construction site. Iran is threatening both the US And Israel, saying that they are, quote, legitimate targets if the United States uses force to protect demonstrators in the Islamic Republic. However, it appears the Islamic Republic now may be rethinking its tough talk.

[Alika Leban]

Some people who did from Iran diplomatically nuclear war forgot to negotiate with nuclear.

[John Jubilee]

With with Iran against diplomats.

[Charlie Kirk]

They do. They called.

[John Jubilee]

They called yesterday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is it so Iran called to negotiate? Yep, they called yesterday. The leaders of Iran called.

[Jay Feely]

They want to negotiate.

[Tom Homan]

What?

[Charlie Kirk]

I think they're tired of being beat up by the United States.

[Tom Homan]

Right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Iran wants to negotiate. Yes, we may meet with them. I mean, it's. The meeting is being set up, but we may have to act because of what's happening before the meeting. But a meeting is being set up. Iran called. They want to negotiate.

[Terrence Bates]

Meantime, the ongoing government crackdown on demonstrators in Iran has killed at least 538people at last check. Many more are feared to be dead. More than 10,600 people have reportedly been detained over the last two weeks of the protest. And making matters worse, the Internet across that country is down. Phone lines have been cut, causing an information blackout and making it difficult to gauge just how bad the government crackdown truly is. President Trump and his national security team are said to be weighing a range of options in response to what's happening there, including cyber attacks and direct strikes. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

Foreign.

[Jay Feely]

Awakening is here.

[Tom Homan]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are turning our attention to Iran now that we. We talked about this on Friday, and we're gonna have Alika Leban, who is an Iranian in the United States, and she's been a strong activist, advocate for a free Iran, free of the. The mullahs and Khomeini. And so there's a lot going on. And it's very hard to understand exactly what's going on because there is an Internet blackout. We've got AI. We've got a almost complete media blackout from the West. There has been very little coverage, but there is a lot of, you know, activists that are.

[Blake Neff]

We have reports of hundred. Some people are claiming thousands. I've seen reports in around 500, some supposed deaths from clashes between demonstrators and security forces. President Trump has been weighing in on this. He said about a week and a half ago he was saying, if Iran strikes on protesters, we're ready to step in. And then he said this weekend, quote, iran is looking at freedom perhaps like never before. The USA stands ready to help. Three exclamation points. And so there is this sense that President Trump, I guess you might say he might see this as an opportunity similar to Venezuela, where in a normal war, you'd need a lot of force. But he may see this as an opportunity where a couple strikes and he can knock over the Iranian regime.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, can you imagine the psychological impact of the protesters? Now, I want to be very clear. I, I currently am against intervention, military intervention. I don't see it as America first at this point, but, you know, I am hearing reports that There could be carriers headed to the region, straight to Hormuz, that kind of thing. If we are doing economic warfare, I think you could topple the Iranian regime, plus the protests with a barricade embargo, if you will. Blockade of the oil coming out of Iran. That's usually headed straight to the ccp. So it's a good, it's good in two different, on two different fronts. Right? You're, you're going to choke off the oil flow to the ccp. You're also going to choke off revenues to the mullahs. Okay. So those, those two things I would be in support of. I, I do not want to see us militarily get involved. But it does seem like the lady GS and that sort of thing is, it's happening. They're, they're pushing for a final blow against the Iranian mullahs right now. So that's, that's, we are monitoring that closely. Let's. Do you have a clip you want to play? Sorry, I want to play a clip here real quick. This is a, I think like a fairly dispassionate setting of the table before Elika joins us. 228.

[Jay Feely]

Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Friday accused protesters of acting on behalf.

[Jay Feely]

Of US President Donald Trump.

[Blake Neff]

Khamenei said rioters were attacking public property.

[Charlie Kirk]

And warned that Tehran would not tolerate people acting as mercenaries for foreigners. Videos uploaded to social media on Thursday.

[Jay Feely]

Showed hundreds of people marching in Tehran's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Streets at night as anti government protests.

[Jay Feely]

Continued, triggered by frustration with the country's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Economy and rampant inflation.

[Jay Feely]

Witnesses in the capital and major cities.

[Charlie Kirk]

Of Mashhad and Isfahan told Reuters that protesters gathered in the streets chanting slogans.

[Jay Feely]

Against the Islamic Republic's clerical rulers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Protesters tore in Iran flag in half. Internet monitoring group NetBlocks said a nationwide Internet blackout was reported on Thursday. All right. And it looks like we have Elica Le Bon who is now ready. Elica, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Alika Leban]

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely. So one of the struggles with the Iranian story right now is it's hard to get accurate information. So you are connected with people inside Iran. You are Iranian. Tell us what the truth is, what's really going on, the extent of the protests, please.

[Alika Leban]

Yeah. Well, I mean, first of all, a lot of what the media says is that this is, you know, protests that are instigated because of economic conditions. But the reality is that what these people, what the people of Iran are protesting is the oppressive regime that has sort of had its boot on their necks for the past 47 years. It's true that sometimes things happen that instigate a new series of protests, which is exactly what's happened right now with the economic conditions since then. It's just impossible to count how many Iranians have taken to the streets. From what we're hearing, from what we're hearing from people inside Iran, essentially everybody and their neighbor and their parents and even their children have taken to the streets. And it is a total nationwide protest to try and oust the regiment. At the same time, the regime's narrative, which we have to remember, the regime are in control of the entire propaganda operation. They're in charge of the media. There's no free speech. There's no free journalism. And their story that they're returning back to the world while the Internet has been shut down is that this is a Zionist operation, a Zionist psyop, a form of American imperialism. But what most people don't know is that that is the lie that drove the 1979 revolution, and it is the very lie that Iranian people have woken up from and are now protesting again against today.

[Charlie Kirk]

And how big are the protests and how widespread?

[Alika Leban]

Monumental. I mean, every city, every. It's across the entire nation, obviously. You know, it's not like the regime is going to be tallying numbers and sending us back figures to let us know. It's not like Gaza Health Ministry, where they're going to send us accurate reporting, but essentially, from what we've heard from inside Iran, every single city in Iran is basically has detonated with these protests.

[Charlie Kirk]

So there is a gal online. I'm not sure if you're familiar with her. It's Tamina Debuzorgi. Apologies for butchering that, but she had this viral tweet that it looks at 5.3 million engagements right now. She says the Western liberal media is ignoring the Iranian uprising because explaining it would force an admission it is desperate to avoid. The Iranian people are rebelling against Islam itself and the fact that shatters the moral framework through which these institutions understand the world. So she's basically saying this is different than what happened in Palestine or with Hamas. It doesn't fit the moral framework of Western media. Therefore Western media is not going to cover it. Do you think that's what's happening? Is that what's causing this media blackout from the CNNs and the Ms. Nows of the world?

[Alika Leban]

Yeah, I mean, I've posted a similar tweet and similar videos talking about the moral color code, which is essentially that In Western academia, especially leftist academia, and I say this as a former leftist myself, there's this sort of framework that has been taught to American youth about who the good people and who the bad people are, who the oppressed and who the oppressors are. And so many decades we've spent educating our youth that the good people in the world are the, you know, the global south or the people of color, and the evil people in the world are the white people. Right. And so their rebellion, according to that moral color code is against all things white. And that is why you saw them coming out in droves to, you know, protest against Israel, which had been named a white nation of white Jews from Poland. Right. And that's. That was absolutely deliberate. But when you see these. When you see what's happening in Iran at hands of an Islamist regime, well, let's not forget that violates the moral color code, because now you're talking about Islamists who are coded as brown. And they cannot defy the moral color code and go against the Islamists, because that under their entire story, it exposes the contradiction that what they've been protesting for or what they've been standing for this entire time has never been humanity. It has been abiding by orthodox. Abiding by a moral color code which is built on a false alika.

[Blake Neff]

I was wondering if you could. I've seen some discussion. What type of alternative government do you think the people on the ground want? There's been, obviously, the son of the former Shah has made himself a very prominent figure in all of this. Do people want the Shah back, or how do they feel on the ground there, do you believe?

[Alika Leban]

Yeah. So when we're looking at these protests, these nationwide protests from city to city, the one thing that is unanimous is that they are calling back for the Shah. They're saying, jawed Shah, which means long live the king, they're saying, which means this is the last battle and Pahlavi will return. There's a very specific reason for this. And the reason is that they ousted his father in 1979 based on what I call the great lie. And that great lie was the ideology by the Marxists and the leftists that convinced them that some utopia was going to come if they just ousted, you know, Western imperialism. They called the Shah an American puppet, the American elite. And once we would be done with all of this and, you know, we could usher in some Marxist utopia of equality for all, right? And so the Iranian people very soon discovered that there was no utopia. It was just. Just Hell. And because of that lie, there is a very specific return that they're calling for right now. It's essentially an apology. First, we made a mistake. We want the Shah's son back. We want the Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi back. He will act as a transitional leader. He's not coming as a dictator, an authoritarian. He's coming back as an interim leader to transition the country into democracy. At that point, a referendum will be opened up where the people will decide who it is that they want to lead the country, what type of system, whether it'll be a constitutional monarchy, a republic, a democratic republic. But I will say that the polls that have come out of Iran over the past couple of years have already revealed that their number one choice for a leader is the Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, because he is the only person that they trust against everything. All of the betrayals and all of the lies that they've experienced heretofore.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow. And you feel like that that is widely shared on the ground in Iran.

[Alika Leban]

I mean, just listen to their words. We don't have to guess. We just. We listen to their words.

[Blake Neff]

That was a big question on that one. I don't know.

[Charlie Kirk]

That was a big question we had. Was this. Was he representative. Yeah. Was he representative of a larger voice, or was he trying to insinuate himself and to be opportunistic? It was an honest question. So that's actually good to know because. Yeah, no, no, no.

[Alika Leban]

That you don't speak the language. I was like, why don't you hear that?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we don't speak it. So the next question here is about US involvement. Intervention. Play 226. Yes. The leaders of Iran called. They want to negotiate. I think they're tired of being beat up by the United States. Iran wants to negotiate.

[Tom Homan]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

We may meet with them. I mean, a meeting is being set up, but we may have to act because of what's happening before the meeting.

[Blake Neff]

So I guess a general thing I'm wondering is how. How fragile does the regime seem to be? Like, I. Trump is threatening to possibly get involved. We see the people on the streets. We see the regime shooting back. Is it the sort of thing that could be shoved over with not too much effort?

[Jay Feely]

30.

[Charlie Kirk]

30. We're going to keep you on the next segment, too, Elica.

[Alika Leban]

Okay, should I answer?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, 20 second answer, real quick. And then we'll go to break and bring you back.

[Alika Leban]

I think the fragility of the regime is directly proportional to how much it can withstand. And if there's intervention that's coming from the United States, that's coming from the outside. They're not going to be able to withstand the uprising within Iran and the intervention from outside. So that will absolutely be the thing that topples the regime over. Without intervention. No, the regime will not collapse because there's already been a massive shutdown and they're saying that the regime are starting to take control.

[Charlie Kirk]

Interesting. Yeah. And I want to get your perspective on how many casualties there have been because there's conflicting reports. We'll be right back. All right, so we are talking about young people because young people are leading a lot of the protest energy in Iran. But young people also have a problem here domestically, and a lot of that is private student loan debt. So because of private student loan debt, many Americans feel stuck and helpless and they've even lost hope. Why Refi gives you light at the end of the tunnel. If your private student loan debt is keeping you up at night and ruining your life, it doesn't have to just call Y refi Y R E F Y they refinance distressed and defaulted private student loans, which are different from federal student loans. Many clients aren't even even able to make the minimum monthly payments on their private student loans when they first contact Y Refi. If you have distressed or defaulted private student loans, nobody is coming to bail you out and bankruptcy is not an option. But you can take charge of your situation by contacting why Refi? Can you imagine being debt free, not living under this burden anymore? The first step is contacting y refi 888 why refi 34. You can call them again 888 y r e f y 34 or visit [e-mail] they're great patriots. They support groups like Turning Point USA this show and they love this country and they want to help students get ahead, get out from under this burden. And they are the only solution out there. May not be available in all 50 states, but if it's available in your state, you owe it to yourself to check them out again. Call them 888 y refi 34 or log [e-mail] to get a sense of how I did.

[Blake Neff]

So we've heard about the Internet blackout, but to get a sense of how dire the situation is for the government, I'm being told they've also blacked out landline phones. They're blocking out online banking. They're blocking out basically anything requiring a GPS signal or like location at all is just getting shut down.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jeez. Wow. Elica, I want to show this Image really quick. 234. This has become an iconic image of this young woman lighting fire to the supreme ruler and leader, whatever his name is, Khomeini, and using it to light her cigarette. And I mean, it's really like it's become this touchpoint of the youth led movement. Explain that. How are young people playing a central role in this Iranian protest movement?

[Alika Leban]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's essentially entirely driven by the youth because we have to remember that, you know, our youth in Iran, they have access to the Internet, they're on TikTok, they're on Instagram, they're on social media, and what they're doing all day is essentially comparing their lives to the lives of people who are living with the rights and freedoms and privileges that we enjoy. And it makes no sense to them why they don't have those things. It makes no sense to them why they have to, you know, have hair coverings, why they're not allowed to sing or dance in public, why they're not allowed to essentially do anything. And they have to follow these laws of these clerics that are completely removed and completely out of touch for from the youth of that generation. And it's also important to remember that many people think that Iran is a Muslim country. And technically it is, but because of the regime. But the Iranian people are not religious. They've never been religious. Because Islam is not something that came to us. Our original, our indigenous religion, you can say is a Rastrianism. And Islam came to us by conquest. And it's not something that the Iranian people ever fully adopted. And so there's an aspect of it that is still foreign to the Iranian people and most especially to the Iranian youth. So when they're seeing the way that the rest of the world is living on TikTok, they're making their dance videos too, but they're not allowed to make their dance videos. They're getting penalized for making dance videos and they're tired of living under these restrictions.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's very interesting what you're getting at. I don't think that that feels, I guess, logical to the average American. Right. We've been told our whole lives, you know, the Iranian Muslim is very repressive. This is what we've known. But there is this undercurrent within Persian culture. Right. The Persian people, I interacted with them when I was living in Los Angeles. I mean, amazingly industrious people. I think a lot of them are pretty devoutly Muslim. I would say my experience, you would know better than I, of course. But my interaction, this is my firsthand experience. They were devoutly Muslim.

[Alika Leban]

Were they irgc? I don't think I've ever met a Persian that was a devout Muslim, unless they were ayahuasca.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and no, that's really interesting insight. And listen, you're the subject matter expert here. But what I will say is there does seem to be this. You see these videos from the 1970s of Iranian culture before, and it feels very Western, it feels very liberal. And I do think that is a promising side. If we're going to see Iran change and leadership change, do you believe that the country would be well poised to sort of be reintegrated into the international community?

[Alika Leban]

Yeah. And, you know, I tweeted something about this the other day, because people talk about this concept of Westernization, right. And they forget that we, the Iranian people, are the descendants of Cyrus the Great, who basically penned the Cyrus cylinder and that was the first declaration of human rights in history. And people forget, forget that the Middle east was once considered the cradle of civilization. And so a lot of what we consider, you know, liberal right now, these concepts of human rights, they did originate with with people like our ancestors, Cyrus the Great. And so Iran is sort of like a downstream effect of that type of culture and those types of norms. And that's why it's so important to understand that the way that Islamism has been sort of put on Iran, it contradicts our true underlying values. And our underlying values, it's not that we are Western, we are Persian, but our Persian values mirror Western values very closely. And that's also why you've seen such a close alliance between the Iranian people and the United States and Israel and Western countries, because we share the same values. And pre 1979, that's exactly what you were seeing in Iran. The Shah, the last Shah of Iran, he actually instigated something called the White Revolution, which was a modernization project that gave women's women's rights, women's suffrage. It was about expansion of literacy, industrial growth, all of these things. And it was actually that exact modernization that caused the Islamists and the Marxists inside Iran to ally to overthrow the Shah, because they called it West. What it really was was Persianization. It was a return to our Persian values that are very, very closely mirrored with the west, the Judeo Christian values.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems that. And I think we. I mean, this is why these videos go viral online about the 1970s Iran. That is no more and hopefully will be again. But. Yeah, go ahead, Blake. If you.

[Blake Neff]

It's just. It's. It's a remarkable thing to watch. I think all of us would be very happy if. I mean, Iran's been an enemy of the United States my entire life. If we were able to topple that without needing a giant regime change war without needing, you know, 200,000 U.S. troops, I think that would be an amazing thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean. Floor is yours. Elika, final 15 seconds here. What's your message to the American people about Iran?

[Alika Leban]

My message to the American people is that it has never been more important to stand behind the people of Iran. A liberated Iran from the regime will free. Not just the regime. It will free Israel and Gaza from Hamas, Lebanon from Hezbollah. It will Yemen from the Houthis and the west from nuclear threat. It will be a massive, cascading liberation for all.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you. Thank you, Alika. Really well said.

[Alika Leban]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see you tomorrow.