The Charlie Kirk Show, January 16, 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show - January 16, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Charlie Kirk (produced by iHeartPodcasts)
Air Date: January 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into key current events through the lens of “Real America’s Voice” — focusing on themes of national security, immigration enforcement, government corruption, and the evolving American political and cultural climate. Charlie Kirk is joined by his executive producer Andrew Colvett, producer Blake Neff, and an array of guests including investigative journalist David Hoek, on-the-ground reporters Cam Higby and Nick Sorter, with a special call-in Q&A in the second hour. Notably, the show explores the ongoing ICE operation and related protests in Minneapolis, the viral exposure of welfare fraud in Minnesota, US-Canada-China geopolitics, and the current political tension over the use of the Insurrection Act.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

(1) Nobel Prize Transfer to President Trump

• The episode opens with reports that Maria Machado, Venezuelan opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize recipient, has symbolically presented her Nobel medal to President Trump.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “You couldn’t transfer your Nobel Prize to anyone, especially President Trump. You did today.” — Charlie Kirk (00:36)
    • “[Trump] deserves it. And it was a very emotional moment. I decided to present the Nobel Peace Prize medal on behalf of the people of Venezuela.” — David Hoek (00:44)
  • The act is discussed as both a symbolic gesture and an international signal concerning the US role in Venezuelan affairs.

(2) Canada’s Pivot toward China and the “New World Order”

• PM Carney of Canada announced a major partnership with China, referencing a “New World Order.”
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “The partnership… sets us up well for the New World Order.” — Cam Higby, reciting Carney's remarks (01:28)
    • “Rather than these being developed necessarily through the IMF, WTO and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop them, not for the world, but for subsectors of the world.” — Cam Higby (02:22)
  • Discussion: The crew analyzes the meaning and implications of the term “New World Order.” They highlight Canada lowering tariffs on Chinese autos, deepening ties, and carving out a more independent global policy.

(3) ICE Operations and Public Backlash in Minneapolis

• Kirk and team analyze reports of escalated ICE activity in Florida and Minneapolis as a major story, linking it back to their own investigative work.
• Discussion of protester strategies, threats against ICE, and use of technology for accountability.
  • “If you interfere or impede or assault an ICE officer, you will be prosecuted…we’re going to make them famous. We’re going to put their face on TV.” — Charlie Kirk (03:28, 03:54)
  • Calls for vigilant citizen reporting of abuses or interference with federal law enforcement.
• Counterpoint: Discussion about civil liberties and protesters’ right to demonstrate is acknowledged but sharply divided from interference and violence.

(4) Exposure of Welfare and Medical Transport Fraud in Minnesota

• Lead guest David Hoek details his multi-year investigation into fraudulent networks siphoning millions from taxpayer-funded childcare and medical transportation programs in Minneapolis.
  • Key Exposés:
    • Many childcare centers exist only on paper.
    • Huge sums, up to $6 million, smuggled out of the country as cash via airports, especially to Somalia.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “I think we have more child care centers in Minneapolis than we do children…” — David Hoek (07:57)
    • “This fraud is so gigantic that… people are so frustrated and overwhelmed by it.” — David Hoek (17:24)
    • “They are stealing from the blind, the disabled, the elderly, the kids with cancer. They're stealing from all of those.” — David Hoek (23:07)
  • Hoek shares that his activism has led to personal safety concerns, requiring constant vigilance and self-defense.

(5) Media, Polling, and Immigration-Enforcement Politics

• Kirk, referencing reporting from Axios, pushes back on mainstream polling indicating a decline in support for tough immigration enforcement following media coverage of ICE protests and shootings.
• Argument: Media narratives create a feedback loop that undermines administration resolve and aims to demoralize pro-enforcement officials.
  • “This is the opportunity where you double down, triple down.” — Charlie Kirk (28:33)
  • “Success succeeds and failure continues to fail.” — Andrew Colvett (28:33)

(6) On-the-Ground Reporting: Minneapolis Protests

• Nick Sorter and Cam Higby describe violent, organized protests as a response to ICE activity, including attacks on federal officers and near-total impunity for agitators.
  • “It’s not getting any better, right? If anything, it’s getting worse…these are the people that [Democrats] are supporting…Minneapolis police didn’t do anything.” — Nick Sorter (30:21)
  • “Right now, Minneapolis has no laws because they're not enforcing any laws…I definitely think it’s time for the Insurrection Act and I’ve been calling for it.” — Cam Higby (32:11, 33:23)
• Debate over whether invoking the Insurrection Act is justified or optimal, with Kirk and Colvett weighing political risks.
  • “If you come in with a show of force and you put the hammer down, a lot of these people have glass jaws. They’re going to run.” — Charlie Kirk (38:28)
• Comparison to other cities: The crew muses why such unrest only takes root in certain “white liberal” cities with less experience handling violent crime.

(7) Notable Segment: Minneapolis Fraud Investigation – Field Encounters

• Hoek and Shirley’s attempts to find the physical offices of dozens of registered transport companies revealed that most are fictitious (liquor stores, empty lots, or fake suite numbers).
  • “Advanced Mobility has been registered with the state of Minnesota since 1999 at that address…It’s a one story building…so you can’t have a 200 suite. So it’s never existed. It’s only on paper.” — David Hoek (20:20)

(8) Calls for Political Strategy and Use of the Insurrection Act

• The hosts debate the prudence of deploying military force to quell protests, with concerns about optics, media narratives, and election-year repercussions.
  • “You can’t just look like you’re stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people…You have to make that case.” — Andrew Colvett (55:24)
  • “I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act.” — Charlie Kirk (58:17)

(9) Global Affairs: US, NATO, Greenland, Iran, and Venezuela

• Brief Q&A with President Trump:
  • On NATO and Greenland: Citing strategic necessity, but not committing to withdrawal or drastic escalation. (48:21)
  • On Iran: Celebrates averted executions and holds off on promising direct action, referencing past disasters in Middle Eastern regime change. (49:20, 51:16)
  • On Venezuela: Defends alliances and decision to accept Machado’s Nobel medal, invokes lessons from Iraq. (50:08-51:16)

(10) Ask Me Anything (AMA): Legal, Cultural, and Geopolitical Queries

• Wyoming abortion ban struck down on grounds that abortion is deemed health care under the state constitution—sparked conversation about judicial appointment mechanisms and long-term libertarian trends in the West.
  • “All five members of the Wyoming Supreme Court were chosen by a Republican governor…but there’s a judicial commission nomination process.” — Andrew Colvett (75:53)
• Listeners called in with questions on Middle Eastern protests, free speech issues, Canada-China relations, and whether Congress could mandate identification for paid protesters — vigorous debate ensued about practicality and First Amendment risks.
• Canada’s apparent geopolitical realignment toward China is dissected, with concern over Western unity and American strategic interests.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (With Timestamps)

• “You can’t transfer your Nobel Prize to anyone, especially President Trump. You did today.” — Charlie Kirk (00:36)
• “We have more child care centers in Minneapolis than we do children.” — David Hoek (07:57)
• “These are the people that [Democrats] are supporting. I’ve gotten a bunch of hate messages after I had this guy arrested...The police didn’t do anything.” — Nick Sorter (31:48)
• “Right now, Minneapolis has no laws because they’re not enforcing any laws.” — Cam Higby (32:11)
• “They’re stealing from the blind, the disabled, the elderly, the kids with cancer. They’re stealing from all of those.” — David Hoek (23:07)
• “This is the opportunity where you double down, triple down…we lose our country if we don’t act.” — Charlie Kirk (28:33)
• “If you come in with a show of force and you put the hammer down, a lot of these people have glass jaws. They’re going to run.” — Charlie Kirk (38:28)
• “Advanced Mobility has been registered with the state since 1999 at that address…you can’t have a 200 suite. So it’s never existed. It’s only on paper.” — David Hoek (20:20)
• “You can’t just look like you’re stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people.” — Andrew Colvett (55:24)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:26–02:36: Nobel Prize story and early discussions on White House reports
• 07:57–10:17: David Hoek discusses investigation into Minnesota welfare/transport fraud
• 14:17–23:13: Interview continues: international recognition of fraud exposure, personal risks, Minneapolis as “epicenter”
• 26:06–43:00: Minneapolis ICE enforcement, protests, law enforcement response, “Insurrection Act?” debate
• 48:20–51:16: President Trump Q&A — NATO, Iran, Venezuela, Nobel Prize
• 55:24–61:47: Political risks of invoking the Insurrection Act in election season
• 73:47–81:15: AMA hour: legal/cultural questions from listeners, abortion in Wyoming, Canadian geopolitics
• 81:38–88:22: Canada-China “New World Order” partnership, analysis of global shifts

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Tone and Language

The tone is highly combative, unapologetically partisan, and blends sharp skepticism toward establishment media with a spirit of crusading activism. Kirk and colleagues blend humor, mockery, and a sense of siege, especially regarding immigration and protest coverage. First-hand accounts from Minneapolis ground reporting add urgency and a sense of embattlement.

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Conclusion

The January 16, 2026 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show offers a whirlwind tour of contemporary American political fissures, highlighting the overlap of local corruption, geopolitical re-alignment, political media warfare, and grass-roots activism. The show’s central contention is that only through exposure, resolve, and a willingness to confront both deep-seated government failures and organized leftist resistance can America be “saved.” The conversation is loaded with first-person investigations, policy analysis, and war-room strategizing on the future of the conservative movement’s big fights.

Transcript

[Andrew Colvett]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Charlie Kirk]

Guaranteed Human. The Charlie Kirk show starts now. I am getting word from White House.

[Terrance Bates]

Officials that Machado insisted that she give the Nobel Medal to the President.

[Charlie Kirk]

And he did accept it, in spite.

[David Hoek]

Of the Nobel Prize committee saying that.

[Charlie Kirk]

You couldn't transfer your Nobel Prize to anyone, especially President Trump. You did today.

[David Hoek]

Why did you do that?

[Charlie Kirk]

Because he deserves it. And it was a very emotional moment.

[David Hoek]

I decided to present the novel Peace.

[Charlie Kirk]

Prize medal on behalf of the people of Venezuela.

[Cam Higby]

Thank you, Chairman Zhao Li Qi for receiving me, my ministers and our delegation. This is indeed a very important meeting and the most auspicious start to the new year and to a new era of relations between Canada and China. And I believe the progress that we.

[Charlie Kirk]

Have made in the partnership sets us.

[Cam Higby]

Up well for the New World Order.

[Charlie Kirk]

What did you mean by that? What is the New World Order?

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, this is.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a great question, Brian, because I.

[Cam Higby]

Think the world is still determining what that order is going to be.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what this partnership does is in.

[Cam Higby]

Areas, for example, of clean energy, conventional energy, agriculture, as we were just talking about, and financial services, which we've talked.

[Charlie Kirk]

Less about, but the evolution of the.

[Cam Higby]

Global financial system, the role of the renminbi over time, the evolution of cross border payments. I know it all sounds very dry.

[Charlie Kirk]

Except for your organization, which I think takes an interest in it.

[Cam Higby]

These are important elements of how the system is going to work.

[Charlie Kirk]

And look, the expectation is that rather.

[Cam Higby]

Than these being developed necessarily through the imf, WTO and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop.

[Charlie Kirk]

Them not for the world, but for.

[Cam Higby]

Subsectors of the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hello, everybody. We've received multiple reports of heavy ice activity in different parts of Central Florida, including the University of Central Florida, Winter Garden, Altamont Springs and other surrounding areas. We've also received reports of heavy ice activity at certain hotels in the area as well. I'm making this video to confirm both of those things, that ice is in the community and that they have made pretty large hotel reservations and surrounding hotels as well.

[Cam Higby]

If you're out there loud, blowing your.

[Charlie Kirk]

Whistles, walking on the sidewalk and videoing, very important, everybody pull out your phones. Because it's allowing us to keep them accountable.

[Terrance Bates]

We took them to court here and.

[Charlie Kirk]

Won over and over again.

[Terrance Bates]

As a result of the evidence that.

[Charlie Kirk]

We were able to put together, these people who want to say, follow ice and film ice, you know what, you.

[Terrance Bates]

Can protest, they have that right.

[Charlie Kirk]

But when you cross that line, and we've proven it, if you interfere or impede or assault an ICE officer, you will be prosecuted. And one thing I'm pushing for right now, Laura, I am a member of the Oversight Committee of the United States government. And a few months ago, we launched a portal where people can report abuses and ICE activity. We'll put that link up as well. Please be vigilant and report anything that you see.

[Terrance Bates]

We're going to create a database where.

[Charlie Kirk]

People that are arrested for interference, impedance.

[Terrance Bates]

Assault, we're going to make them famous. We're going to put their face on tv.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to let their employers in their neighborhoods, in their schools know who these people are. Because as you said, a lot of.

[President Donald Trump]

These people, they say they're taking time.

[Charlie Kirk]

Off work to protest. I bet you a lot of them are calling and sick. I bet you a lot of employers don't know what they're doing. But we're going, we're going to make sure everybody knows who they are.

[Terrance Bates]

We're going to broadcast.

[Charlie Kirk]

They want to broadcast the ICE officer that was nearly killed all over the Internet.

[Terrance Bates]

We're going to broadcast every one of.

[Nick Sorter]

These people we arrest, tell ICE certain words.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, honestly, it all started like back when, like the LA happened and when, like, I started taking people in LA and I saw all those riots going on, I was pumped while watching those because I knew that like, oh, probably it's gonna hit here. And of course I does after that bull Somali scandal, that was fraud and all that.

[Nick Sorter]

But I'm mostly out here because I'm.

[Charlie Kirk]

So sick of my neighbors being taken from their homes.

[Andrew Colvett]

It is disgusting, these videos that I've been seeing. And just like in general, I also.

[Charlie Kirk]

Have a friend in there right now that got arrested for protesting. The FBI and ICE tracked him down.

[Andrew Colvett]

While he was helping a friend and they took him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Every day there's a battle for your mind raging information coming from every angle.

[Terrance Bates]

With the will to deceive Fear not.

[Charlie Kirk]

You found the place for truth the voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country and in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's January 16, 2026. We're here in studio, myself, Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Blake Neff, another one of our producers here. And we've got a jam packed first hour and then we're going to be hitting our AMA. So if you want to take part in the AMA members.charliekirk.com for hour two we're going to be taking all of your questions and I can't wait for that. Mikey McCoy will be joining us in hour two. First up, though, we have David Hoke, who you will know from the Nick Shirley investigations in Minneapolis that have gone massively viral. David has been instrumental working behind the scenes for years trying to expose this fraud. And then kaboom. Like, like a tidal wave. Nick Shirley's investigative reporting with David's help has taken over the country and really setting the news agenda right now. All the headlines are about Minneapolis, Minnesota. A lot of that was sparked because of this investigation. So without further ado, David Hoek, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[David Hoek]

Thank you. Very nice to be here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

And those who can't see it, he's wearing that sweatshirt you're wearing is quality leering center 1-800-Fraud. You have a lot to be proud of, you guys. You guys probably gave us the best conservative meme of, of the entire year.

[Charlie Kirk]

Does that number actually work, by the way? I should ask.

[David Hoek]

We just put it on there. I.

[Charlie Kirk]

We should, we. But we should. This should be a government hotline, 1-800-Fraud or something.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I mean, imagine like I know this, this exists, but like, we should really like emphasize if you can uncover a fraudulent program such that it gets stopped and maybe someone gets convicted of it, you get 25, 30% of what was saved.

[Charlie Kirk]

I actually love those kind of ideas.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, these exist. We got to really drive.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's a lot of incentives in the market, David, for fraudsters. There are not as many for people like yourself that want to do good and want to protect taxpayer funds. So you had this first video with Nick that went absolutely. I mean, I don't think anybody's ever seen anything like it, especially on X. And you've come out with a part two now exposing transportation companies. I was reviewing some of the clips just before the show today and truly remarkable stuff this. I want to start with just an overall question. Did you know this was happening? Did you learn something in this investigation? What, what are the big takeaways here?

[David Hoek]

So this all began several years, well, many years ago and really got jump started when I, when I began noticing all these child care facilities here in Minneapolis and they were pretty concentrated in one area. And I said, well, I think we have more child care centers in Minneapolis than we do children. So I started to look and say, well, you know, the snow would fall and there'd be no footprints around the center the whole day. And I'd say, well, what, I mean, what's going on here. And so I started to look at who owned these childcare centers. And I started to see all these vans driving around the Twin Cities with these names, but there was no phone number, no address on them, just a name with a number on the back. But they never had a passenger in them ever, ever, ever. And so I started to kind of say, well, what's going on here? And that led into feeding our future, the autism centers, all of that. And I realized that this was going to be like wrestling a grease hippo. I just, I couldn't get my arms around it. This is advice for anyone else out there who's going to do this sort of thing in your state. You can't try and tackle the whole thing all at once. You have to pick a pressure point to start with. In my case, I chose the child care because I knew that that would resonate with people, especially when they're paying $2,000 a month per kid to send their kid to child care. And then they find out this whole fraudulent network has been set up. And then I knew I was going to move into the non emergency medical transportation side of things. And I realized that that was the hub of the wheel. Like I said in the video, all these other things, childcare, the adult daycare, the autism centers, they're all spokes on the wheel. It all revolves around transportation. So when I had all this data finally put together, I said, well, look, I'm a nobody. I need to find someone who has an Internet presence who can deliver this. And I started to look at all these different influencers. When I saw Nick Shirley, I said, that's my guy right there. I just pested the hell out of him until he called me Friday night about 9:30 my time and said, okay, I'm coming to Minneapolis. And then we made the video. I said, well, get your, get your return ticket because you're going to be back. Because I don't know. And then as soon as that one went, just exploded in there. And he called me to say I'm coming back.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, and it's really, I mean, listen, and this is. You've got this whole ICE story which we're going to be hitting in part two of this hour with Cam Higby and Nick Sorter, who have been on the streets doing more independent journalism, trying. They've been infiltrating some of these antifa groups, these paid protest groups, these communist front groups that are reacting to the surge in ice, which are reacting to the video that you and Nick Shirley did. I have so many questions, but let's start there. What is it like to be enveloped in this national story, arguably the cause of the big. You are the spark that lit the fuse.

[David Hoek]

So I was born and raised in south Minneapolis, Lived here my whole life. Nunciation Grade school, had that terrible shooting last year. Washburn High School, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. I said, well, look, when this all. When I all started to really realize what was going on here, I said, there's something. It just doesn't fit right into a normal society. And I said, well, nobody's doing anything about this. And so when I started to look into it, I saw these tentacles going everywhere. And I said, oh, my God, I can't do this. It's too enormous. So that's why I'd say, God, I can't do this. But there's something inside me that just pushes me forward. And I said, okay, well, nobody else will do anything. I'm going to be the guy. I had no idea this would be the spark, not only nationally, but internationally. We have people wearing these T shirts and sweatshirts all. I'm getting videos from photos from Japan and. And Russia and Sweden and Australia, New Zealand. It's everywhere because of one misspelled word. And what I didn't point out in the video is that not only did they have the word learning misspelled, they had the address misspelled on their door because niclid is spelled with two Ls and they only had one L in it. And so they were wrong, two out of the four words on their building. But I didn't want to point it out because I wanted the focus to be learning versus learning. So I said, look, I'm not going to sit by and let this happen. I'm not going to hand this situation off to my kids and let them deal with it. I'm the guy who's going to stop it, and I'm going to tear this whole thing down.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you've. You've lit a fuse, I think, you know, for Blake and I even. And we were. We were sort of aware of this story. We saw it in the. The City Journal. We had Ryan on. Ryan.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thorpe on. Who had done that story. So we were seeing this percolate, and then boom. This all happened, by the way, Walter Kern and the county highway, which is not digital. It's only a print publication. They had done a story before that which led to the City Journal investigation, which then kind of snowballed with the Nick Shirley. So it's amazing to see that we can blow stories wide open. First question. Are you staying safe? David, I, I do have a concern about that for you.

[David Hoek]

Well, this is something that I would not recommend that anybody do in the fashion that I did it because my head is on a swivel 24 hours a day. I have to have the lights on all the time. I have to carry a firearm, a baseball bat, and what's called a whip it. And that'll whip it to protect myself because now people are starting to recognize me. And it's a, it's, it's a, it's a frightening place to live my world. But I just, I have to do it. And I believe that at some point somebody's going to take me out. I mean, that's not movie type stuff. This is real life. And if that happens, at least I can go knowing that I did what I could do to try and make a difference. And now today I get a text that there's a dfl state representative here in Minnesota who's live streaming the location of federal agents.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

So what do you say about that?

[David Hoek]

It's all coming out of Minneapolis. This is the epicenter of all the fraud in the United States and it's even spread out among the world. It, the genesis of it is right here in Minneapolis.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, I didn't mean to, you know, awkwardly pause there. I'm just. We've been through a lot over here on this show too, David. So it hits home. We'll be right back. More with David Hoak.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[President Donald Trump]

But generally it was anywhere from a.

[Charlie Kirk]

Million to 6 million in a suitcase. And there usually was there five, as I can remember. There was always two individuals traveling.

[David Hoek]

So you would have maybe one guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

With 2.2 million and another guy with 3 million.

[Andrew Colvett]

And, and at airports you're able to take $10,000 without declaring it.

[Charlie Kirk]

How are these guys able to take millions of dollars?

[President Donald Trump]

Because as far as I know, as.

[David Hoek]

Long as they declared it, they were fine.

[President Donald Trump]

The smallest amount.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then we found out, David, later in this clip that they actually reported this to hsi, which has all the investigative authority and power that the FBI does via home department of. How is this legal? How did nothing happen? What did you guys find?

[David Hoek]

It goes back to what I said earlier, that Minneapolis is the epicenter of all of this fraud and all this corruption. For someone to be, I mean, if I walked in there for 10 cents, I have to source it. These guys are walking through with millions of dollars in cash at a time. And had I known it, I would have insisted that TSA was running drug sniffing dogs around the money. Because you know there's going to be a scent of cocaine or something. You have that much cash, there's going to be a trace of drugs on it. Of course, then they could see the money because they didn't do that. And so this, this fraud is so gigantic that again, people are so frustrated and overwhelmed by. They said, look, you've got to just, you got to chip away if you're going to do this. You got to focus. You gotta strategize. So two years ago, I knew what these videos were gonna be about, but I didn't have all the data to put together. I didn't know what sites we were gonna visit. But when Nick hit town, I had it all laid out, where we were going, how much money they'd gotten. Why we were doing it the way we did it. And I said, this first video is gonna be the most viewed video on the Internet. I told him that talking on the phone. And indeed it was. I don't know how much, 400 million views or whatever the number is. And then I said, we have to go directly into transportation because that ball comes back to transportation. I said, we can't do 10 videos on autism. It's just, it's not worth it. Childcare and then moving to the transportation. And I was right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, let's get a clip of that. So you went to a location of one of these supposed transport companies and to set it up, it's. The state will fund money for people, will give money to companies that are supposedly to transport disabled people, elderly, elderly, stuff like that. It's a very popular business. There are a lot of these. I spoke with someone who's a realtor in Minneapolis and she said over and over they would run into people, Somalis buying homes. And there was always like, it's another daycare center. It was another transport company. I think someone had all three th, those two. And then a Medicaid company. It was unreal. But let's play the clip here. This is Nick Shirley finding another fraud spot and getting kicked out. 5, 18.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you guys know where Advanced Mobility is? Do you guys know where Advanced Mobility is? Yeah, we're looking for it. Never heard of it. Oh, my name is Nick Shirley. We're just looking for Advanced Mobility. Where's Advanced Mobility at? That's what we're asking for.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're looking for advanced mobility. Nobody can help us right now.

[President Donald Trump]

We got a whole group of people.

[Charlie Kirk]

Trying to get us out of here. We're looking for advanced mobility. Advanced Mobility doesn't exist.

[Andrew Colvett]

And, and so it's not in that clip, but I believe it was saying it was at suite 224. And there you couldn't find a single suite even labeled two in that building.

[David Hoek]

No. So it's, it's interesting you picked that portion of the video because it's the most significant because that Advanced Mobility has been registered with the state of Minnesota since 1999 at that address. And it's a one story building. So all of the suites are 101, 102, 103. You have to have a second. There is no second story. So you can't have a 200 suite. So it's never existent. It's only on paper.

[Charlie Kirk]

And nobody ever checked this, David. Nobody ever did. So this complicity goes back before Tim Waltz, then. I mean, it's been going on.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, so. So devil's advocate. Did you look anywhere else? Did you maybe try to find other evidence the company may have ever existed or maybe that it had been there, it had been somewhere and moved? I don't know. I'm just trying to find defenses that the state might make.

[David Hoek]

That's why we asked the people, have you ever heard of advanced mobility? Because some of those companies have been there for eight or nine or 10 years. So if you've never heard of it, how can it be registered at this address? But that was only one example. I've been to probably 70 of these, and none of them. I can't find an. I can't find an office. I can't find anybody there. I mean, they're apartment buildings, they're vacant buildings. They're liquor stores. You saw at the grocery stores. I said, well, what. Several of them are money wire transfer services. And you saw that one gentleman liquor store. He said, yeah, Safari wire service. Yes. Safari gets the money and they send it out. I said, well, where's the transportation company doesn't know what we're talking about. And what we didn't include in that video was there was a guy who stormed into that liquor store, and he started shouting at the older guy in Somali to get him to stop talking. And so that guy turned around, he walked out the back, towards the back door.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, one minute here. Yeah, one minute left here, David. I mean, so you grew up in Minneapolis. Just for the sake of our audience, how much have you seen the city demographic transform? As you see the Somali communities come in about 40 seconds left.

[David Hoek]

So what's been most shocking is their failure to assimilate in the slightest bit. They are in my way or the highway. And they have these DFL legislators who stand behind them because they didn't create all this fraud. They had help from politicians to construct all these companies. They didn't know how to do it. The politicians helped to do it, and they saw them as a solid voting block, and so they brought more of them in and more of them in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's exactly right. And I. You know, you've this video. These videos light a fuse in a lot of Americans because we're the ones getting ripped off. And you can. You can just see it. And it's. You're not getting ripped off for other Americans. You're not getting ripped off for a good cause. This is. You are just getting straight ripped off. And the money's going overseas to a bunch of Somalis.

[David Hoek]

They're stealing from the blind, the disabled, the elderly, the kids with cancer. They're stealing from all of those.

[Charlie Kirk]

Amen. Thank you, David. God bless you. We'll be right back.

[Terrance Bates]

Terrance Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break. Thanks so much for being here with us. Charlie Kirk's accused assassin is due back in court today. Overshadowing today's hearing is the latest request from the 22 year old suspect's defense team asking the judge to disqualify the prosecutors in the case. The defense argues that prosecutors in the Utah county attorney's office have personal ties to the case, which causes serious concern about past and future prosecutorial decision making. They also argue that the rush to seek the death penalty against the 22 year old accused shooter is evidence of, quote, strong emotional reactions by prosecutors which merit disqualifying them. At issue are text messages from the child of a deputy county attorney who attended the rally where Kirk was killed. Those messages reportedly describe the chaos that ensued following the shooting. The judge overseeing the trial could rule on the defense request as soon as today. A bipartisan group of US Lawmakers is meeting with Danish and Greenlandic leaders today in hopes of reassessing or reassuring them, excuse me, of congressional support in the face of President Trump's attempts to take control of the Arctic island. The 11 member group is largely made up of Democrats, with North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis and Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski being the only two Republicans on the panel. Today's face to face is a follow up to Wednesday's meeting between Danish and Icelandic or Danish and Greenlandic members in Washington, during which they discussed the situation with Vice President J.D. vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. That meeting yielded little progress for the Arctic neighbors as the Trump administration is holding firm on its intention to control the island. Meantime, a House bill in support of annexing Greenland has been introduced. There's still no word, though, how much traction it's getting at this point. And President Trump is set to participate in a roundtable on investing in rural health this afternoon. The sit down comes after the administration unveiled its health care plan on Thursday. The president's proposal is aimed at lowering drug prices and insurance premiums. The Great Health Care Plan, as it's called, also calls on Congress to codify the president's most favored nation drug price policy. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

The great Reset stops here.

[President Donald Trump]

The CHARLIE KIRK show.

[Cam Higby]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to THE CHARLIE Kirk show. So one of the big news stories of the day is coming to us from Axios. And it's disturbing because it indicates that a lot of squishes are surrounding President Trump and trying to tell them to go halfway half measures in this push to remove illegals from our streets. Now here's what's happening. The polling is indicating that Americans are turning on President Trump's immigration enforcement measures. This is the polling. Now there's, I don't believe it, first of all. And this stuff is so transitory that you, you, you have to look past it. This is our one chance, I believe, to set right what has been a decades long wrong.

[Andrew Colvett]

Right, yeah. So, so the headline was from Axios. Axios is a very funny one to read because they write like no other publication. It's all bullet points. Bullet points, you know, I have to imagine. Yeah. So it's all like bullet point of very to the point. And you don't always know what's behind the scenes. But the claim is Trump's immigration erosion worries his team. And what they're claiming is eroding is they have polling that says independent and undecided voters think President Trump is too focused on deporting, deporting illegal immigrants. And also that ICE has taken a reputational hit. Now, what I would first observe about that is that such an obviously like media driven sense of things. Why would they think Trump, President Trump is too focused on deportations? Because the news media is perpetually covering ICE in Minneapolis in this hostile way. That's what drives it.

[David Hoek]

And.

[Andrew Colvett]

That'S also what's driving any sense of damage to ICE, is there's hostile coverage of one incident that happened in Minneapolis. And I think you and I both agree that a headline like this is partly designed to engineer what we warned yesterday cannot be allowed to happen. They're trying to attack the moral resolve of the administration and get them to wuss out. They're trying to get them to back down and say the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Get out of Minneapolis, let them do their thing. And I think what you and I both agree is once that happens, the jig is kind of up that they won't be able to enforce their immigration will anywhere else. And it's not going to help their numbers because to be sort of, sort of straightforward, success succeeds and failure continues to fail.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, here's the thing. Things get here. Here's what's happened with the media complex in the country. You have Renee Goode get shot. The apparatchiks on Ms. Now and CNN and the Washington Post and New York Times, they see an Opening just like the protesters do. So they flood in the zone. They do sob story after sob story. They show complete propaganda of protesters. Infuriated, one begets the other. They all believe the lie, and then they just regurgitate it and parrot it. And they think, gestapo, Nazi, Trump, tyrant, all of this. That was a distraction. Unfortunately, Renee Good getting shot from the fraud story that was pushing up the positives in the polling to do this mass deportation. So this is a moment in time where we have to be showing to Blake's point resolve. We cannot give in to this sob story. Weak need, Republicanism. That doesn't work and we lose our country. This is the opportunity where you double down, triple down. And we now have. Sounds like we now have Nick Sorter and Cam Higby who've been on the ground in Minneapolis, who can give us an insider scoop of what they've been seeing. I mean, these guys are absolute maniacs and heroes. They are in middle of the night, freezing temperatures. You guys are out there. Welcome to the show, guys. We were having a little tech issue, so I'm glad we got you on Nick. Cam, I don't know who wants to take this first, but what are you seeing on the ground? Describe it in detail, how violent is it, how, how, how organized is it? And then we're going to get into a conversation about is it time to invoke the Insurrection Act? So maybe you're on the left here. Nick, you start. And then over to you, Kim.

[Nick Sorter]

Don't be saying I'm on the left here, man. I don't want the audience to get on the screen.

[Charlie Kirk]

On the screen. I know better. Don't worry.

[Nick Sorter]

I'll tell you, it's. It's just, it's not getting any better, right? If anything, it's getting worse. We just saw the other day, and I was able to announce this yesterday that the, that, that FBI rifle that I captured being stolen out of a, an FBI vehicle, that was a select fire rifle, by the way. It was a machine gun, and it ended up in the hands of a Latin King's gang member out here, the same gang that has a $10,000 hit out on Bovino. So, you know, and these are the Democrats are siding with out here. These are the people that they're supporting. I've gotten a bunch of hate messages in my DMs from people after I had this guy arrested yesterday. You know, I've been in direct contact with General Pam Bondi several times a day at this point, you know, tracking these people down the FBI is on the ground doing a really good job with that. I'm hoping there's gonna be another announcement on that today. But the fact of the matter is, you know, I told Minneapolis police immediately as this happened because they were just a block away. And I told them that somebody. I didn't know what kind of gang he was in at the time, but the face tats kind of gave it away, had just stolen an FBI rifle. Here's a video. Here's the license plate of the vehicle. But that he just got into and ran away. And they didn't do anything.

[Charlie Kirk]

They just let him go.

[Nick Sorter]

I showed them the video of it happening. They let the guy go. They could have taken this rifle off the streets right then, right there. Instead, they risked the lives of, you know, countless innocent people by just letting them run away because they didn't want to offend the anti ice rioters. I mean, this isn't getting any better, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

So go ahead just to give a scope.

[Cam Higby]

How.

[Andrew Colvett]

How many? I guess straightforward numbers I feel like I'm not seeing. How many people do you sense are out on the streets?

[Nick Sorter]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

How many are really violent agitators versus how many people are maybe spectators, passerby.

[Cam Higby]

It varies. And they become way more emboldened after the sun sets. So it's. I mean, outside the federal building, it's pretty consistently upwards of 200 people. But it's really. I mean, it's a lot of the same people during the day, but as soon as the sun sets, they get that mob mentality. More of the agitator agitators come out, and it gets really violent. I mean, it's gotten to the point where Nick and I can't even show up anymore. They run us out as soon as they realize we're there. They call us agitators. I was out there embedded for nine hours yesterday, and it wasn't until right before I was forced to leave for the night because they chased me out that they realized I was even there. It's like, I'm obviously a pretty poor agitator. Minneapolis Police Department, local law enforcement in general, don't do anything. They don't enforce the law. I always say that if you don't enforce the law, you don't have laws. Laws are only as good as their enforcement mechanism. And right now, Minneapolis has no laws because they're not enforcing any laws. I definitely think it's time for the Insurrection act, and I've been calling for.

[Charlie Kirk]

It a lot, so.

[Andrew Colvett]

So let's probe at that. When you say they don't enforce law. So are they present and if so, how many? And what do they do? Do they passively watch? Do they ever move about? Do they ever try to order people? Even if they're not making arrests? They kind of just paint out the situation for us.

[Cam Higby]

I mean for the most part you'd think there's no police in this city. When they do show up, they get chased out, they retreat immediately. The protesters win. Every single time. That happened the night they were breaking into the hotels, the police showed up a couple times. At one point they did form a really terrible kettle where state police basically just let people leave the kettle whenever they wanted. So they arrested nobody. But other than that, Minneapolis police department drove by or showed up a couple times and they were chased out every single time. Like the almost the terrorist attack that Nick stopped on the hotel. They showed up for that and then they got chased out. I got stocked in downtown Minneapolis after an indivisible rally the other day. The guy looked me in the face, told me that he thinks it would be okay if somebody killed me for my beliefs. I never vocalized my beliefs by the way. He just knew me. Cuz another guy told people to follow and harass me and my make my security earn their paycheck. He told me that he thinks it would be self defense if somebody killed me because of my beliefs. And then he ran around town following me, telling everybody that I think Renee Nicole Good deserved it. So obviously that incited a mob against me. I called 911, they never showed up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jeez Louise. So the question is it's going to be zero degrees this weekend. I mean this is like daytime highs. Isn't it going to be?

[Andrew Colvett]

I think it's the low.

[Charlie Kirk]

The low. The low. Okay, so. But that's overnight. I've been of the mind here, Nick, because you've covered this stuff when it's, you know, summertime, riot season. That's riot season, right? Summertime, spring. I'm convinced that this would be just a thousand times worse if there, you know, if it was summer. Do you think that you're still going to see the groups coming out this weekend? And do you know the names of the group you mentioned? Indivisible? What other groups are there? Sorter?

[Nick Sorter]

Well, in terms of names of it, Indivisible is the one that I know of at the time. I mean it's not a hugely organized group out here that's going from place to place to place. In terms of the weather, I mean it's going to be anybody's guess really. I mean, it's obviously probably not going to be nearly as bad as it could be given the cold temperatures. But that hasn't really stopped a lot of these people. Anybody that is from any states in this area, if they come from Chicago, if they come from Iowa, places like that, they're used to the cold already. And when it was, keep in mind, last week, right after this happened, we saw similar temperatures out here and it was still pretty violent. So I don't necessarily think it's going to quell everything. I just think, you know, the Soros folks will send out a lot more goods to support them with out there. Well, and you should see the. What was that?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, I was about to play this Pritzker clip because we're hearing this from a bunch of Dems because we're talking about the insurrection. I'm completely on with you guys. I think if Minnesota, what I'm hearing from you, if the Minneapolis police are unwilling to engage and drive back these agitators, then we have a serious issue. I mean, they're confronting ice. They're harassing ice. They're trying to set traps of ice in front of ice. Right. We've seen them putting water out on the streets. But this is what Governor Pritzker is saying from a state over. Let's go ahead and play it. 489. The feds are supposed to be fighting to protect your civil rights, not to take them away.

[Terrance Bates]

And the Insurrection act is designed by.

[Charlie Kirk]

Only for circumstances where your rights can't.

[Cam Higby]

Be protected by, you know, local authorities.

[Charlie Kirk]

Or by whatever federal authorities are already there.

[Terrance Bates]

And then only then can federal troops be brought in to protect your civil rights.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is exactly the opposite. It's like they've turned it on their head. On its head. Cam, what's your reaction to that?

[Cam Higby]

Well, I think it's in the name. The Insurrection act is intended for insurrections. And when you have people trying to pull down the fences of federal facilities, attempting to kill federal officers, breaking into their vehicles, stealing their documents, that is allegedly controlled, unclassified information, I think that that probably constitutes the beginning of an insurrection. Governor Tim Wall said that he would deploy the National Guard if things got too bad. And here he is continuing to encourage these people despite the fact that they broke into vehicles the other night. And honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed in the federal response. FPS came out last night and they were very easy on these guys as they tried to pull that fence down. Very few munitions deployed. I would have expected a much larger response from these guys. Something really bad could have happened the other night when they broke into those cars and stole the rifles.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you're absolutely right. And listen, if you come in with a show of force and you put the hammer down, a lot of these people have glass jaws. They're going to run. I mean, you know, some of them. Yeah, true believers. But more with Kim Higby. Nick Sorter will be right back in about two minutes. Don't go anywhere. All right, welcome back. We have Cam Higby and Nick Sorter, two guys that have put their bodies on the line to document the chaos and the insurrection really, that's happening in Minneapolis. I think almost more insulting and appalling is the fact that the elected officials, whether that's Tim Walls, Jacob Fry, you've got this guy in Florida, by the way, it's worth, it's worth reminding our audience about this guy, this guy in Florida is, is actively promoting doxxing ICE agents. We'll just play this clip just so everybody knows what I'm talking about. 490. Hello, everybody. We've received multiple reports of heavy ice activity in different parts of Central Florida, including the University of Central Florida, Winter Garden, Altamonte Springs and other surrounding areas. We've also received reports of heavy ice activity at certain hotels in the area as well. I'm making this video to confirm both of those things, that ice is in the community and that they have made pretty large hotel reservations and surrounding hotels as well. I play that clip for you guys because you're seeing it up close and personal. If we do not stop this insurrection in Minneapolis, it spreads. These guys are all gonna get emboldened to do even more and then you guys are gonna be flying all over the country covering the next chaotic eruption somewhere else. Is that your read on this? That this can, if we stop this, if that the message will be clear, or do you think this is just gonna keep spreading?

[Nick Sorter]

Yeah, they're actually making an example out of this place. Especially, you know, this is Obviously the Minneapolis, St. Paul area is a Democrat stronghold. And right now these people firmly believe that they're gonna get away with all of this and that ice is going to back down. They're talking about these poll numbers, which I don't even believe are real poll numbers, because if you talk to actual people on the street, they don't want to live next to Venezuelan rapists. I mean, that seems like a no brainer, right? I will tell you, I would much rather cover this in somewhere like Florida, but I'll give you an example, when they tried all these rallies and these big protests, like Indivisible was doing stuff down when I was in New Orleans as well, they didn't put up with it. The Louisiana government didn't put up with it. They shut down all of the potential riots right away. And up here you see videos of anti ICE activists running red lights, following ice, going around buses on blind corners, 12 of them at a time. Just total lawlessness. And the police don't do anything about it. They can literally see it happen. And they don't pay any attention to the person that just blew a red light at 80 miles an hour to catch up with ICE vehicles down in Louisiana. I did that just because I was covering ice. I like rolled a red light and turned right behind them without stopping at the red light on that right turn. And they pulled me over for that. And so it's like you didn't have the same issues down there. You didn't have the constant clashes with ICE in the middle of the street.

[Andrew Colvett]

The truth is, is like cities that have had to deal with really severe violent crime for a long time or where they have a history of really bad. Well, I shouldn't say they're about Minneapolis because they do. Cities that have had to deal with a lot of violent crime for a long time just don't have quite as much like they just don't have the patience for this. They realize what the cost to a.

[Charlie Kirk]

City or they get normalized.

[Andrew Colvett]

And so you see it, it's like it's Portland, it's Minneapolis, it's Seattle, it's cities that historically were safer, usually, and its cities also. And it just has to be said, demographically, they're more of what you'd think of as, well, let's just say stereotypical white liberals run these cities still, as opposed to in. If you're in New Orleans, if you're in Atlanta, if you're in Detroit, those are heavily black cities that are run by other black Americans. And they just don't. They don't fall for this nonsense nearly as much.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, they don't get suckered. They're not marks. Cam, do you have that same impression that you could squelch this in Minneapolis if you brought enough force? If we just. If we just basically said enough of this garbage, we're putting our foot down now that the rats would scurry, the rats would flee the ship? I mean, I think.

[Cam Higby]

I think the record just speaks for itself. Why is this happening in Minneapolis and not Florida? It's because they know that if they did this in Florida, the Florida State Police or local police would have a field day with them. Why aren't they doing this in Texas? Because they know Texas State Police isn't going to take it. They know DeSantis isn't going to take it. That's why they're doing it in Minneapolis, because they know the government here supports them and they can get away with it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think.

[Cam Higby]

I think an overwhelming show of force would absolutely squelch this. They're like children. It's just learned behavior. If your child touches the stove and burns themselves, they're probably not going to do it again. If your child does something wrong and you punish them, you give them a spanking, they're probably not going to do it again or they're going to do it to a lesser degree. And like Nick said, I hope that message to the administration, please do mass raids in Hawaii. We'd much rather cover.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting point, right? I mean, it does seem to be these sort of white enclave, white traditional, liberal, like softies that let their cities devolve into chaos right now. And you know, you guys are talking about this. Nick, this is the Axios article that came out this morning. We have the graphic here. Two public surveys released this week, one from CNN, another from YouGov, found that most Americans said the agency was making US cities less safe, referring to ICE. Another poll done for the Associated Press after Good's death found that just 38% of Americans now approve of Trump's immigration policy. I don't believe that for a second. But what I do agree with is that when you, to your guys point, when you allow this kind of chaos, whether it's 200 or 300, you know, agitators, when you, when they get tackled, when you see these purple hair jihadists getting, you know, face planted in the snow, there's a group of us that love it. But when it keeps going on too long, that's when you're gonna see the negative impact on the polling. As opposed to you just snuff this out like on day one. You don't let it get out of control. Then people move on the news. Everybody's memory so short, you go back to Somali fraud. Boom, your problem solved.

[Cam Higby]

I mean, just look at what happened in Portland. I mean, Portland was terrible for like a year. I mean, they were out there every single night doing violence. And then finally the Portland Police Department decided to come in and tear their. And immediately it was not totally done, but pretty Fizzled out. And now, you know, just before this shooting, it was. I mean, people were going out there and there was nobody on the street. So now they've had a bit of a revamp after Renee Nicole Goode was shot.

[Nick Sorter]

But.

[Cam Higby]

But, I mean, they went in one time and just took the whole thing down and had a constant presence. And it really stopped a lot of the violence that was happening. And that's all it took.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I agree with you. And, you know, last question. We gotta go. We got one minute left here. But, gentlemen, are you taking care of your safety? Please tell me that you guys are taking care of your safety. Nick, you guys have had some close calls. You drove that car out. The graffiti on your car, the broken windows. Is there a place where we can donate to your security? Let us know. 45 seconds.

[Cam Higby]

Yeah, we just got added to Blackline Guardian Fund, which is something that Brandon Tatum started Profit. So I believe all the donations are tax deductible. It's basically, you can find it pinned on my Twitter under any of my tweets about the protests. Click the link. Me, Nick Sorter and Nick Shirley are on there. You just find us whoever you want to donate to. You just donate to our individual fund.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I encourage everybody watching, please donate to these guys. They're doing heroes work in there. And I know that you guys are doing even more that we can't discuss here. Just kind of helping help them reduce the chaos. So God bless you both. Stay safe. We'll have you on again. I'm sure there'll be more of these stories, sadly. Take care, guys. Hour two coming up.

[Nick Sorter]

Appreciate you, guys.

[Terrance Bates]

Let's take you to the White House now. President Trump speaking. Let's listen in.

[President Donald Trump]

Tremendous reductions, as you know, through. If you look at medicines and prescription drugs, they're going to come down by numbers that have never been seen before. And we're doing that by most favored nations and other nations. Whoever pays the lowest in the world, that's what we're going to pay. Right now, we're paying sometimes 10 times higher than other nations. So we have favored nations that's been approved. Other nations have, for the most part, agreed to it, and they had no choice otherwise we were going to put tariffs on them. The health care plan that we're coming, the money is going to be paid directly to the people. So it goes directly, not to the companies, not to the insurance companies. It's going to go directly to the people, and the people are going to buy their own healthcare. They'll get much better. Health care at a much reduced rate.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pull out of NATO if it doesn't.

[President Donald Trump]

Help you acquire Greenland. Well, we're going to see. NATO has been dealing with us on Greenland. We need Greenland for national security very badly. If we don't have it, we have a big hole in national security, especially when it comes to what we're doing in terms of the Golden Dome and all of the other things. We have a lot of. A lot of. Of investments in military. We have got the strongest military in the world and it's only getting stronger. And you saw that with Venezuela. You saw that with the attack on Iran, with the knocking out their nuclear capability potentially. So, yeah, we're going to. We're talking to NATO.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mr. President. Mr. President. Mr. President. Mr. President.

[Terrance Bates]

Sorry, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

You cannot push too much. Mr. President.

[Andrew Colvett]

Mr. PRESIDENT, you urged protesters in Iran earlier this week to keep fighting in the streets and said that help was on the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is help still on the way or has your bar.

[Andrew Colvett]

We're going to see.

[President Donald Trump]

As you know, Iran canceled the hanging of over 800 people. They were going to hang over 800 people yesterday. And I greatly respect the fact that they canceled them.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mr. President, Prime Minister Carney is in China. Prime Minister Carney is in China. How do you see the deals?

[President Donald Trump]

Canada and China?

[Terrance Bates]

I've just signed trade deals between the two partners.

[President Donald Trump]

Well, it's okay. That's what he should be doing. I mean, it's a good thing for him to sign a trade deal. If you can get a deal with China, you should do that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did Arab and Israeli officials convince you.

[Andrew Colvett]

To not strike Iran?

[President Donald Trump]

Nobody can convinced me. I convinced myself. You had Yesterday scheduled over 800 hangings. They didn't hang anyone. They canceled the hangings. That had a big impact.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yesterday. You accepted Maria Machado's Nobel Prize medal. What do you intend to do with it? And why would you want someone else's Nobel Prize?

[President Donald Trump]

Well, she offered it to me. I thought it was very nice. She said, you know, you've ended eight wars and nobody deserves this prize more than in history than you do. And I thought it was a very nice gesture. And by the way, I think she's a very fine woman and we'll be talking again. Say it.

[Andrew Colvett]

What's the trigger for the Insurrection act in Minnesota?

[Charlie Kirk]

What are you waiting for?

[President Donald Trump]

Well, the Insurrection act, which has been used by 48% of the presidents as of this moment. The Insurrection act also, if you look at absolute believe it was Bush, the elder Bush. He used it, I think, 28 times. It's been used A lot. And if I needed it, I'd use it. I don't think there's any reason right now to use it, but if I needed it, I'd use it. It's very powerful.

[Charlie Kirk]

A very nice person. Why align with Delphi Rodriguez and the remnants of the Maduro regime and not with Machado, who has the support of the Venezuelan people?

[President Donald Trump]

Well, if you ever remember a place called Iraq where everybody was fired, every single person, the police, the generals, everybody was fired and they ended up being isis. Instead of just getting down to business, they ended up being isis. So I remember that. But I'll tell you, I had a great meeting yesterday by a person who I have a lot of respect for. And she has respect obviously for me and our country and she gave me her Nobel Prize. But I'll tell you what I got to know. I never met her before and I was very, very impressed. She's a really. This is a fine woman.

[David Hoek]

March for Life is next week and some pro lifers are worried about your.

[President Donald Trump]

Support for the Hyde Amendment.

[David Hoek]

What do you tell them?

[President Donald Trump]

Well, you know what mean? I tell them you're going to hear about it because I just taped a beautiful piece for them and they're going to play it. And those are great people. I want to tell you, they're great people. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, everybody.

[Andrew Colvett]

Foreign.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. It's an Ask us Anything hour. To help us navigate is Mikey McCoy. He's in the house. Not so special guest. You, you, you are. You don't have your maduro mustache. I know for our thought crime fans out there, big letdown. Big letdown. You, you surprised us all.

[Andrew Colvett]

His wife made him shave. His wife shave it off. I am of course wearing this blanket. The studio just asked me what I am wearing. Well, so you know, when people ask me what Phoenix is like, I tell them two things. One, it's too cold in Phoenix. It's not too hot. Do you ever ask how hot it is? No, it's too cold because everything is ac'd too much. And that's doubly so for a studio because the equipment can't get too hot. So it's super cold in here, 58 degrees. And two, it rains all the time in Phoenix. And so Mikey was rather cold. So he brought in blankets for all of us and they're like just keeping it on their legs.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I decided to no, no. Prove us wrong. We don't have blankets. We. This is our Ask us Anything hour. Before we do that, I do want to show again because the. The team has done such a great job with this, getting the OG the original Charlie merch line back up. This is really cool. Loaded at 524 charliekirkstore.com Charlie Kirk store.com. this is the merch store. And they. We also have all the. The new stuff. We have the freedom shirts. So please check it out. The team has done a really, really amazing job with that Heidi and the team. So thank you. And I told them that I would do a better job of supporting their work. Be better, work harder. Be. Oh. And that I do that. We sell these to be better, work harder. So I'm wearing that. That was Charlie's favorites.

[Cam Higby]

One of his.

[Charlie Kirk]

One of his favorite sayings. So without further ado, we've got Anthony and then Ian. Anthony, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What is your question? Good to see you again or hear from you again. What's going on, guys? Well, first thing, Andrew, really, what your team last night. Really? Before I get to my question, are you talking about Tucker? Kyle Tucker? Oh, Yeah, I know. Four years, 240 million, 6 million a year. This. This is. This is what I got for you. Hold on. Literally, I want to chat. I'm on a chat. And this. This. I don't know. The studio might revolt. I need you to throw this up on the studio. Studio, throw this up. This is what I say to all the haters out there. Come on, throw it up. Yeah, you mad. Here's a cape. Now you can be super bad. This is how I feel about you. All right, so to my question, the Insurrection Act, I sit on the fence with it. I understand the purpose of why it should be done. But with the midterms, could this hurt the GOP because we see Americans like, why this is bad. This is not our country. I'm gonna vote against you. Even some Republicans might vote against GOP people.

[Andrew Colvett]

I think that's a great question, and it really has to be at the heart of everything we do. Let's be real. We live in a country with elections where political issues matter, where the way something looks matters. And we've talked about that a bit on this show with this ICE showdown that I hope in the White House. Inside ice, they are having discussions. How are we going to handle possible confrontations and showdowns that can happen? So we said, for example, if they're trying to use police, if they follow through on threats to have police directly block ICE or try to arrest ICE officers, don't wing your response. To that, they need to say, what should we be? What are we telling ICE agents to do if a local police officer tries to detain them for arresting an illegal? What should they do if these local police officers are getting in the way? That all has to be planned out. And the same goes for the Insurrection act because you're absolutely right. You can't just look like you're stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people or doing random roundups. You have to make that case. We're going after malefactors who are recklessly breaking the law. And so frankly, I know our guests were just arguing in favor of it. I personally feel if it's 200 people around one federal building, I'm not sure I'm sold on Insurrection act yet. That might be send more federal agents and make sure these people are getting arrested before I would go full bore and say we need to call out the military for a few.

[Charlie Kirk]

I actually agree with that. I was thinking about it in the break and I'm very, I'm very pro Insurrection act, first of all, because I think you deal with this issue quickly, then it goes away quickly, right? And then we get to focus on, I don't know, fraud in Somalia. And again, remember, people have very short term memories and when you draw these things out too long, it sinks deeper into the subconscious. It's when you get Joe Rogan and other people that are like, listen, I think Joe Rogan is the goat of podcasters. I think he's more good than bad. He's wrong about this. And it's because he's a normie. It's because he's not like a policy wonk. He's not thinking through all of this. And secondly, he doesn't understand or is not connected to the fact that these issues that we know, and Blake and I fully understand this because we've looked at the fertility rates, we've looked at the long term implications. We are in the process of losing our country. The erasure of American culture is happening now unless we stop it. And I don't want that country for my kids. I don't want third worldism in my country. I don't want a country, you know, wrought by fraud and corruption and, you know, Somali pirates. I'm done with it. I don't want it. I want the force to be leveled now when we have the levers of power. That being said, I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act. If you search federal forces, you make this thing go away. Zero degree Temperatures at night. We're going to see this, this problem go away quicker. If you, if I think if you handle it in a suave, smoother way, I don't think you need to go full, full, full insurrection.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, Mikey, break the tie.

[Charlie Kirk]

No pro insurrection act, but I do think you need to kind of counterbalance it a little bit, especially going into the midterms, because we should be and could be seeing Trump out there campaigning right now and doing massive rallies and you know, when there's crazy news. But then to Andrew's point, the more you talk about it, the more it's an obsession, the more it has this like microscope on it and any, any small mistake people just like hyper fixate to. But that is why they fund the protest too. This is why they Soros seed money, some of these far left groups, because you can get 200 people and you could shave off five points of popularity for Trump. 200 people. But if everybody's focusing right now on everything that ICE is doing, why don't we use the opportunity to put Fauci in prison and do some other crazy stuff to make some news, you know? Well, I mean, that's not a bad idea. Well, listen, I know the base would love that. I mean, here's the thing. There is, we have to confront this fact. I mean, everybody here at this table wants, demand and demands results right away. We want all these people gone. We want mass deportations, we want, frankly, I want a net zero immigration moratorium, something Charlie and I talked about a lot. I want us all of these things, right? And these are the things that are really going to deliver results. Voter id, everything. But when you start getting into these militarized street altercations, you just have to understand that the vast majority of the country is not thinking down the road like we are. They're thinking about their video games, they're thinking about grocery bills, they're not thinking about demographic replacement that's happening in the country and want real results now. And so you just have to understand that and play that out politically. Plus we live in the era of social media where every frickin video, you know, if you think about insurrection act has been called what, 17 times in.

[Andrew Colvett]

Us, 30 times in history.

[Charlie Kirk]

Seventeen president.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

By 17 presidents. None of these really happened in the modern media era. The closest analog we would have parallel was L A in 92 and that was still like over the shoulder cameras. Right. We didn't have social media, phones and all of the things. So the whole calculus has to be approached differently. That's why I think you almost have to. You have to be subtler. You have to sort of try and make the. The crowds disperse, attack them on one by one, get it done quick.

[Andrew Colvett]

And there's an interesting thing to think about this. Do you know what the Mandate of Heaven is? I want to say, yes, the Chinese historically have a concept. Yeah, the Mandate of Heaven. A ruler, ruler who is good will have the Mandate of Heaven, and a ruler who is losing the Mandate of Heaven, that is the heavens are displeased at this rule.

[Charlie Kirk]

But this.

[Andrew Colvett]

Bad things will happen to him. No, no, it's not stupid. No. Because if the ruler just dies for.

[Charlie Kirk]

No reason, they're like, oh, he lost the man.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, no, it's not like that. What it is, is a dynasty is losing the Mandate of Heaven. And the evidence is that there are signs of Heaven's displeasure. And that is. It would be like natural disasters would be signs of this, but also rebellions and chaos breaking out. And the reason I mentioned that is I think there's an element of that in how the American people will react to something like this. So your best argument for the Insurrection act is if they can shut this down immediately. But the biggest worry would be, what if they try to shut it down and instead you get similar outbreaks in cities across the United States. And the reason they'll be upset, it's not even how they feel about immigration policy one way or the other. They'll just think like, oh, there's chaos. There's chaos in the realm. And they're not thinking in literal, mandated Heaven terms, but they'll be thinking bad stuff seems to be going on in cities. There is chaos. And President Donald Trump is the president, so he sort of gets the blame for it. And that would be the biggest.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it also plays into the narrative that they've ceded for the last 10 years. Trump's a tyrant. He's a dictator, he's a fascist. Look it now we have jackboot thugs masked on the streets arresting American citizens. That's not at all what's happening. But you still have to come to grips with the fact that half the country is spewing that narrative. And then you have Joe Rogan, people like that, picking it up. And that's where the problem ensues. We'll be right back with the end. Don't go anywhere. All right, we are back here at the Charlie Kirk Show. It's an Ask Us Anything hour, hour two on Friday, every Friday. If you want to be a part of that, join [e-mail] kirk.com. you mean the world to us. You, you help us keep the lights on. So thank you to all our members out there. Also, I think we had an amazing members only podcast lounge. We had amazing guests on that thing, by the way. So if you were at amfest and you're a member, you got to experience that. That was incredible. It was our first one without Charlie and it, like, was pretty emotional for me, actually. And the fact that so many of you showed up and supported us was great. So that is. You also get the AMAs on on Friday. We're going to be doing more stuff for you as well. Want to tell you really quickly, we're going to get to Ian. Next, I want to tell you about why Rev 5 private student loan debt in the United States totals. How much, Mikey, do you know how much? $300 billion. And about how much is labeled as distress? How much? It's. One sixth of it is labeled as distress.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Colvett]

You know how much money $45 billion is?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's like, it's like, it's like one, it's like five.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's like 1/3 of the LA Dodgers payroll.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow, that's not true. Listen, I'm all, all in favor of paycheck baseball. Because listen, we're two, two World Series in a row. It's good for baseball to have a villain, by the way. It is. Because now everybody.

[Andrew Colvett]

It was called the New York Yankees.

[Cam Higby]

Yeah, I know.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, you know, it's funny, I got, I got two texts from New York Yankees fans last night after the, the Tucker signing. And it, it's like amazing because, like, even they're bitter at us. And I'm like, you guys have all the money in the world. I mean, until Mom Donnie taxes you to smithereens and all that. But I mean, it's not like LA doesn't have high taxes as well. Ian, you're up next. Hey, go Dodgers.

[Nick Sorter]

First and foremost.

[Charlie Kirk]

My man calling Evan. I will say to the, the, the.

[Nick Sorter]

Members, the Members Only lounge was one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Of the best parts of AM Fest. So that's awesome.

[Nick Sorter]

Definitely worth it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Members.charlie kirk.com. please join us and join us there.

[Andrew Colvett]

It wasn't just special guests. We just would go out there and we just take questions.

[Charlie Kirk]

Totally. Yeah. That was, by the way, one of the things we're going to be doing. I was talking with E about this. We're, we're going to be doing. You don't even know this yet, but we're going to, we're going to do, we're going to have like family business calls. Like, we're just going to do a zoom call. Everybody can join and we'll ask you what you want us to cover. So if we're missing stories that you think are important, if you want to have us book certain guests, whatever, like, we'll just deal all of that. You guys can kind of come into the producer world with us and so really looking forward to that. So we're going to be rolling that out soon. What's your question, Ian?

[Nick Sorter]

Yeah, so I had a couple, but my main one is I just, I.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just don't understand with all these people.

[Nick Sorter]

That are shouting free Palestine earlier the last couple years, why are they not saying the same thing about Iran? My dad's from Tehran, Iran. He Left there in 1977 to get away from the revolution that was coming. And now they have, now the people are fighting back. And it's, it's pretty clear to me it's a spiritual battle. You know what I mean?

[Charlie Kirk]

There's people that are Christian over there.

[Nick Sorter]

And they're hiding underground and they're converting.

[Charlie Kirk]

To Christianity en masse and being killed. And it's just, it's just Crazy to me that this isn't, like, national news.

[Nick Sorter]

Like, it's just being, like, swept under the rug. So I just don't know.

[Charlie Kirk]

So many thoughts. Blake, do you. Do you want to take it first?

[Andrew Colvett]

I mean, there's a lot. One of the funny things is you do hear some of them do it, but there's a true story split in the left. And you really see some of these. There was a coalition that came together that essentially centered on hating Israel, and they're now fracturing over this because some of them are like, do we just like democracy and protests, or do we kind of like Iran because they shot missiles at Israel?

[Charlie Kirk]

You.

[Andrew Colvett]

You see a real split on this. And the answer, honestly, one of the biggest reasons for why they don't care is it gets at the heart of why so many people dislike Israel in the first place. And it's because, frankly, for a lot of them, they dislike it. Some of them dislike it because it's Jewish, some of it. But a lot of them dislike it because it's culturally European, because they're culturally considered white, essentially. Because they're considered an outpost of colonialism. They basically. They like to hate on that. They hate on them for the same reason they hate ordinary middle Americans or the reason they hate natives of Britain or natives of Germany or native Swedes. And so that is their safe way for them to really amp themselves up in enjoying that hatred. That's why you saw BLM Chicago celebrate 10 7, because they would like to do 107 in your neighborhood, too. They just can't get away with it. And indulging that for Iran, where they're actually trying to overthrow a tyrannical regime that doesn't code as any of those things, doesn't give them that release they want. That's what's good. The heart of it, in my opinion.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I think. I think I agree with a lot of that. And I just want to underscore what you said. There's a ton of Christians. People don't realize this. And I actually have a pastor friend of mine who's going to be visiting me in about a week who's been doing street evangelism. He's gotten arrested a couple times in Iran by doing this. And he said that after Charlie died that these. They started praying for these kids. They would go out in the street before, it was pretty kind of. Kind of timid. And now they're just like roaring lions. That's his words, not mine. And they'll go out and they have just so much energy and Courage to go share the gospel all over Iran. So this is happening as we speak. I believe that God's doing miraculous things. He's showing up in dreams and visions and people's hearts are changing in Iran. And I think that a lot of people, you know, we had Elica Laban on earlier this week and she was explaining the religious dynamics of Iran are not exactly what you think. I think there's a lot of devout Muslims. I sort of have a. Somewhat of a disagreement, but there is a lot more variety in mix. I mean, she was right about there historically been a Zoroastrianism or whatever. You know more about this.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, that's, that's, it's 1500 years ago.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a long, long time ago. But, yeah, but those, those, those predicates are there. And the, the, the legacy, I think has a, has an impact on a larger cultural level. But the point is Iran is a very mixed place. It's very diverse place, and there's a lot of dynamics that we're not really aware of as Westerners. But here's ultimately to Blake's point, it is to go after the Iranian regime would be to admit that there is oppression, real oppression, political, spiritual, economic, that doesn't come from the white man. So it doesn't fit their narrative. This is coming straight from one of their intersectional privileged classes. It's coming from other Muslims. So Muslims are oppressing Muslims, therefore it doesn't fit into any of their convenient narratives. Therefore they're uninterested. Whereas Hamas, Israel, Israel was the white European coded versus the brown people. So they instantly saw oppressor versus oppressed. This doesn't work in any of that narrative and it exposes the truth and the lies that they have been believing and spreading. So they want nothing to do with it. Go ahead, Mikey. No, I mean, you have it right. It's the oppressor and the oppressed. But ultimately, I mean, in the situation of free Palestine, the oppressed is the Palestinians and the oppressor is the Jews. And in Iran, the oppressor is a Muslim regime and the oppressed are women that have to wear Hajibs. And so Americans just like objectively care more about Jews oppressing us all the time. And so we're going to care more about that. But also. We'll be right back. Yeah, I'll finish. We'll keep in the stream. We'll keep going to the stream.

[Terrance Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates, Charlie Kirk's accused assassin is due back in court in about an hour and a half from now. Overshadowing the hearing, however, is the latest request from the 22 year old suspect's defense team asking the judge to disqualify the prosecutors in the case. The defense argues that prosecutors in the Utah county attorney's office have personal ties to the case, which causes serious concern about past and future prosecutorial decision making. They also argue the rush to seek the death penalty against the 22 year old accused shooter is evidence of, quote, strong emotional reactions by prosecutors which merit disqualifying them. At issue are text messages from the child of a deputy county attorney who attended the rally where Kirk was killed. Those messages reportedly describe the chaos that ensued following the shooting. The judge overseeing the trial could rule on the defense's request as soon as today. Venezuelan opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize recipient Maria Carina Machado is following up her meeting with President Trump on Thursday with a sit down at the Heritage foundation this afternoon. Here's some of what she had to say.

[David Hoek]

On January 3, 2026, a new milestone.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was achieved and we are definitely now into the first steps of a true transition to democracy that will have not only immense impact in the lives of.

[David Hoek]

All Ben Swans, those who stayed in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Our country, those who have been forced to flee around the world, but that will have immense impact in the region.

[David Hoek]

In our hemisphere, and I will say.

[Charlie Kirk]

Even further in the whole world.

[Terrance Bates]

Those remarks coming on the heels of Machado sharing her Nobel Peace Prize with President Trump during their meeting at the White House on Thursday. You're looking at the picture of the duo together here. While President Trump has declined to endorse Machado to lead her country forward, she was still very complimentary of the US President saying that she thinks he deserves the prize. She, of course, points to the president's move to oust former Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, saying that his work to depose a man she calls a tyrant is one of the many reasons he deserves the honor. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

CHARLIE Kirk show where talk meets action. All right, we're back here. CHARLIE Kirk show. Looks like the I wish somebody would ask about Canada just for. We would love to talk about Canada. Oh, yeah, if you have Canada questions.

[Andrew Colvett]

Definitely ping us because we were talking about talking about it. But for now we have Micah. Micah, are you there? Unmute yourself. And what's your question?

[David Hoek]

Hey, good day, gentlemen.

[Nick Sorter]

Howdy. I'm calling in today from the state of Wyoming. I don't have a question about Canada, but I do have a Question about a recent ruling from our state Supreme Court on the 6th of December. So 10 days ago the state supreme court says that a abortion ban is not constitutional in the state of Wyoming. The court passed this down based on the fact that they called abortion health care, which was the court's argument there. So just a couple of questions. This of course is a shock in deep red states, especially Wyoming. So questions about what we can do to change future outcomes like this and then also how we can change the libertarian thought process that's, that's not very strong on the pro life issues. So any thoughts that you have?

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, thank you.

[David Hoek]

Thank you.

[Andrew Colvett]

So while we, Emma notified us that a question on this was coming up. So I, I did some like quick research on it and looking into it. And so just for those who are not aware, which I imagine is most people, Wyoming's not our biggest state. So Wyoming has a Supreme Court. They're chosen for eight year terms. There's only five of them, eight year terms picked by the governor. It's a deep red state. So we have to be frank about this failure. All five members of the Wyoming Supreme Court were chosen by a Republican governor. They have to pick from a list of nominees that are submitted by a judicial nominating commission in the state. I don't know how that, how the staff of that is chosen. But you see in basically this is how you can get a lot of this stuff is this indirect nomination. Instead of the governor just picking whoever he wants, they instead have this nominating commission. The judge then or the governor then picks from the three nominees they put forward. And then there is a retention election on the statewide ballot. And I, because I'm approaching this quite recently, I don't know the exact way these specific justices were chosen, but clearly.

[Charlie Kirk]

Rationale between the judges.

[Andrew Colvett]

So the rationale on the decision by the way is so first of all they decide abortion just automatically counts as health care. But an interesting part of it, their justification for this, which was also reached by lower courts in the state of Wyoming. When Obamacare was passed back in 2010, the state reacted by passing its own constitutional amendment that basically says Wyomings have a right to make decisions about health care in the state. And the intent of this was to push back on any drive towards centralization. It was against Obamacare, the fear that Obamacare was going to dictate their medical decisions. Oh, you can only get this thing or you're only allowed to have this type of insurance. It was pushing back on that and it had this unintended consequence that happened a decade plus down the road. So a few things you have to do. First of all, you have to watch out. You have to watch who's getting on your Supreme Court. First of all, you have to make sure that the people who are getting, who are making the choice of who even can be nominated for the Supreme Court are aligned.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have some intel on this. The Wyoming Judicial Nomination Commission includes the Chief justice, then three lawyers elected by the Wyoming State Bar. So there's a state bar question there and that is currently Devin o', Connell, Mandy Good, Clint Langer and then three non lawyers appointed by the governor. So Lisa, so that's a majority in Rocco o'.

[Andrew Colvett]

Neill this is so similar to what they actually had in remember when we talked about this in Israel where they were trying to reform the court. So the chief justice and then the three people on the state bar are a majority there. There are three people appointed by someone else, non lawyers, but they can have a majority of people that is basically self perpetuating of the state's legal elites and the current Supreme Court justice who's already picked by this mechanism. So frankly, I would say first of all, you should probably look into replacing that mechanism and you might need to amend your Constitution to do that. I don't know the way that's done in Wyoming. And I also want to make sure we address the how do you change people's minds? One of the things that's not as well known about these Republican states out west, they are less church, they are less religious than other ones. So if you go to Oklahoma, if you go to Tennessee, there is a high religious affiliation of conservatives.

[Charlie Kirk]

I can vouch for that in Nevada too. Yeah, same western states.

[Andrew Colvett]

Once you get west of kind of the, the Great Plains line, basically when you cross the Missouri river and the line going down from it, you still have a lot of conservatives, but they are more libertarian, they're less likely to be members of a church and even if they vote our way and so they're less aligned on these issues. So we actually have to continue the work of trying to spiritually witness to these people. You're not just trying to block the decline of religiosity. These are probably the states where you have the most people who are maybe open to it. They vote our way, they have conservative.

[Charlie Kirk]

Values, they're probably culturally Christian or culturally Catholic, but they're not conservatism. It's an ethos of the west.

[Andrew Colvett]

But it's also they just didn't grow up. These places have never had as many Churches. And in the south, it's that you're in a church culture because there's been churches there for 200 years. And your parent, your grandparent, your. Maybe your great grandfather built the church and your grandparents remembers, your parents remembers. You are in a society where membership of a church is almost taken for granted. It's much easier to get into that world out west. It's much more do it yourself. So we get some great Christians out there because it's such a do it yourself thing. You have to be really committed.

[Charlie Kirk]

You saw this in California with the rise of the megachurches.

[Andrew Colvett]

Exactly. You have fewer people who are getting culturally assimilated into that, and we have to make do the work.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have a legal question, though. I believe so. The ruling is based on the fact that they consider abortion health care. How did that definition get established in the state of Wyoming?

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm not sure. I'd have to. I'd have to read the decision.

[Charlie Kirk]

So my instant analysis when I was hearing your question was that you have to pass a state law that redefines abortion as not health care.

[Andrew Colvett]

And that's what stinks is I think that would have been really easy if they'd written their law like that in 2012 and they'd say, by the way, abortion isn't health care. Whereas now it's going to be tougher. It's going to be tougher now because, let's be frank, Dobbs got repealed, and now people are. If you try to pass that, everyone's aware this is an abortion ban, up or down vote. And as we've seen outside of Florida and South Dakota, we've had a hard time with up or down votes. We've been able to pass strict abortion laws because we're able to pass it in the legislature where our guys are aligned. And most people are not going to, you know, flip to the Democrats over that. Even if we lose that up or down vote, and that could be a struggle in Wyoming. I'll just be frank.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree, by the way. I just. We talked about the spiritual implications. One last point I want to make is I believe every state that succeeds and overcomes the evil of abortion and passes a state ban. I don't care about all the naysayers. I don't care about the politics of it. I believe your state will be blessed. I genuinely believe that.

[Andrew Colvett]

Mikey, do you have any thoughts on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, no. This is great, Blake. I could sit back and listen to you explain things all day. I'm like, I'm loving it, Micah. Who's next? Josiah, I think Mike. Josiah. Who do we get? Matthew. Josiah.

[Andrew Colvett]

Let's go.

[Nick Sorter]

Hey guys. I am here in upstate New York, about 20 minutes from Canada. And so I would be going to auto. It's tomorrow. So I was like, hey, I'm here about Canada. If you have something to add.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh boy.

[Charlie Kirk]

We now have leeway to talk about second hand after Greenland.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh boy, man. We can do it. We are. The truth is we want to talk about it because it's very interesting what's unfolding north of the border.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, this is a. So this is.

[Andrew Colvett]

People aren't noticing this because there's a lot of other.

[Charlie Kirk]

We play the clips first though.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, let's do those clips.

[Charlie Kirk]

So we've got this is this. So it's a one, two. It's a shot chaser, to use a very secular vernacular.

[Andrew Colvett]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

517, this is Prime Minister Carney. Big Lib says Canada's partnership with China sets us up well for the new. Actually, hold on, hold on. Yeah. All right. So we didn't get the clip I wanted, but that's fine. This is them announcing this new partnership with the CCP.517.

[Cam Higby]

I believe the progress that we have.

[Charlie Kirk]

Made in the partnership sets us up.

[Cam Higby]

Well for the New World Order.

[Andrew Colvett]

He. He couldn't have said that.

[Cam Higby]

More ominous.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that was, that was him intentionally signaling to D.C. and Donald Trump that he has his own agency and they're going to push back and become a proud little puppet state, vassal state of the ccp.

[Andrew Colvett]

And he elaborated on this. Should we do the follow up?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, let's do the follow up.

[Andrew Colvett]

Let's show. So they asked him what did he mean by it.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a follow up interview.

[Andrew Colvett]

521 of the things you said in.

[Charlie Kirk]

The public remarks was this partnership, Canada and China, this new partnership sets us up well for the New World Order. What did you mean by that? What is the New World Order?

[Cam Higby]

Fancy word, like the architecture. The multilateral system that has been developing.

[Charlie Kirk]

These is being eroded, to use a.

[Cam Higby]

Polite term, undercut use, another term.

[Charlie Kirk]

So the question is what gets built in that place?

[Cam Higby]

But the evolution of the global financial system, the role of the renminbi over time, the evolution of cross border payments.

[Charlie Kirk]

And look, the expectation is that rather.

[Cam Higby]

Than these being developed necessarily through the imf, WTO and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop them.

[Charlie Kirk]

Not for the world world, but for subsects. Sector, Sub sectors of the world.

[Andrew Colvett]

First of all, Mike, do your impression of Carney. He's got his hand maneuvers there. There's a lot that's interesting there, though.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

And so first of all, the announcement today, that's kind of a money. You know, the follow up to this is they announced today Canada is, they had been aligned with us on a lot of very aggressive anti China tariffs, huge tariffs on cars, some other exports. And they announced today they are cutting their tariffs on Chinese automobiles. So these electric cars that they're all over the world, you never see them in America because we tariff them so hard, but we might see Canadians driving them. And in return, China is cutting tariffs they had imposed on Canadian exports. Like, I think canola oil is something that they were exporting, stuff like that. But it's, it's really interesting what he's saying, because what he's saying is basically an earthquake. Canada has always been in the United States orbit. It's always, let's be frank, it's always been a major ally of ours, even when we had differing governments.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I have a question then. So if we, if, if we're taking Greenland because China and Russia have an influence on that territory, and that is our reasoning to do so, does that mean we also need to take Canada because they're being influenced by China and Russia? Well, I mean, this is the thing. So, yeah, we can't. Listen, I'll be frank.

[Andrew Colvett]

I've just got to say this, this happened because I think we were, we recklessly bullied Canada. Just after, you know, kind of during that transitional period to the new administration, President Trump was going on about the 51st state thing. First of all, like, Charlie, I don't want Canada as a 51st state. They're very liberal on, on certainly like abortion. Take Alberta, Asia, even Alberta would, I'll tell you, I think you'd be surprised. I think Alberta would be a blue state because one reason they have, they have multiple parties so you can get a Conservative government with 35, 40% of the vote, which, you know, you can't do that in the United States. There's only two major parties. And so we did that. And unfortunately, it did mean there was an election. Trudeau was imploding. He looked, they looked primed to lose power. And unfortunately, Canada's national identity, a lot of it is bound up with being not America or being like America, but way more left wing. And I think that really exacerbated that element of Canadian national pride. And it made them go for this carny guy who's this globalist lizard. And what he's saying there when he says oh, we're going to see sub sectors of the world instead of multilateral organizations. What he's saying is the imf, the WTO institutions that America built are going to be replaced by ones China might build with Canada.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll be right back. We're going to keep going in the break on this one, so. Fun conversation. We'll be right back. Just to put a finer point on this, I, I actually agree with Mikey. I think this is him. This is Carney trying to act like because he's total beta male, he's a total beta male. And this is what the left is built on, feminist women and beta males.

[Andrew Colvett]

I don't think he's a beta male. I think that's a mistake. I actually think he is a cold blooded lizard. But I don't think a beta male would do this. Well, just.

[Charlie Kirk]

I do when they're commies. At the end of the day, this guy. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

He's going to say commies are not beta. Commies are. Can be very alpha. Like Joseph Stalin was not a mincing beta.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, Beta evil or beta? Yeah. Freedom at Charlie Kirk.

[Andrew Colvett]

A lot of them are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is Carney the Prime Minister of Canada? Is he a Beta or not a Beta? We want to hear your thoughts. Send it. Flood the inbox.

[Andrew Colvett]

I would be remiss if I didn't listen.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's conniving, he's, he's smart, he's calculating. All of these things are very true. But he's a beta. Okay, that's my take on it.

[Andrew Colvett]

I would be remiss if I didn't flog my personal hobby horse, which is, I think, the best way for President Trump to indulge his desire to make America bigger and grander and to do really big projects no one else does without possibly alienating useful allies. He should annex Antarctica. No one owns it. What if we just took it over? He just said it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I like that. Get this. The average temperature in Antarctica is much colder. It's 9,000ft high. It's on a 9,000 foot shelf. It is. What else in the North Arctic, The North Pole, if you will. It's underwater, it's under. The ice is water. So the land mass in Antarctica reflects heat. The ocean underneath the north actually helps moderate the temperature in the summer. The average temperature in the north is actually 32 degrees Fahrenheit, which is the freezing point. So which means it sometimes gets below, above freezing and below freezing. It's way warmer up.

[Andrew Colvett]

But Antarctica is a lot bigger. And so if we annex the whole thing we would be bigger than Russia.

[Charlie Kirk]

Interesting to see if you could actually extract resources for.

[Andrew Colvett]

Almost certainly not in any sort of short time frame. But, but yeah, anyways, in a century time frame. Well, we have one more question we do want to get to as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

Matthew. So, Matthew.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[David Hoek]

Can you hear me?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, sir. Okay, great.

[David Hoek]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

So by the way, Carney. Yeah, I hate to say you probably use beta, but you know, Tommy's can definitely be alphas like you said.

[President Donald Trump]

So.

[David Hoek]

Yeah, my question, my question kind of.

[Charlie Kirk]

To preface it would be that, you know, for a long time it's been frustrating to see all these people out there being portrayed as these really angry citizens standing for these things when a lot of times they're just being paid, you know, it. Because I've, you know, I've seen the ads before myself, you know, looking for.

[David Hoek]

People out there in Phoenix, you know, to do stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

So the, so my question is, you know, what do you think about Congress passing a law that would require just.

[David Hoek]

Like we have in commercials, you know, paid protesters to wear something like an.

[Charlie Kirk]

Armband or something that shows that they're being paid a wage to be there.

[David Hoek]

And requiring that, but that they also can register, you know, the company has.

[Charlie Kirk]

To register somewhere federally and there needs to be some sort of sign posted.

[David Hoek]

For somebody feed of anything that states.

[Charlie Kirk]

Clearly who's paying them because that would, you know, it wouldn't go against free.

[David Hoek]

Speech laws because we already have laws requiring that for stuff on TV and radio, truth in advertising and so forth. And it would also make it a.

[Charlie Kirk]

More clear employee, employer relationship so that, you know, they can be sued. If I was gonna say this actually gives you a mechanism for enforcing like a crackdown if you know that they are paid protesters and they, they don't properly. I, I don't know, like what's the, what's the first amendment implications here?

[Andrew Colvett]

I, I do feel like it would be a can of worms. How would you define a paid protester, for example, or like a door to door.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, so if they're like what they.

[David Hoek]

If they're doing hotels, transpo and food.

[Charlie Kirk]

Only, then that's not paid processor process, but they're getting a wage to be there. And we, and we've, I'm sure you've seen the ads before looking for people to do.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'll be frank, I will be frank. I have seen these go viral before. I don't know that I've ever seen a paid protester ad that I, I'll be frank, that I think Was real. I think people post them, and I think they're fake. There was a. There was actually, back when I was on Tucker's show in 2017, there was a completely fake paid protester bit. And we had the fake paid protester guy on the show. It went quite viral at the time. But I think people put these up.

[Cam Higby]

I just.

[Andrew Colvett]

I don't know that I've ever seen evidence that an antifa. Like a person who is just a 100% disinterested mercenary figure showed up at something like an anti ICE protest or an anti administration protest because they were just being paid a wage to be there.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think. I think it's a confluence of, like, you have true believers that, you know, will then kind of come up through the ranks. Activist groups. I mean, a lot of the groups are real. Indivisible was one of them. There are obviously people on payroll that help organize or help disseminate literature. There is a paid element of this. I tend to agree with you, actually, though, that more of it is organic than the left or than the right wants to admit. A lot of this is just people that, you know, listen, people have a hole in their soul and they're looking for purpose. They're looking for something to make themselves useful with. And instead of raising their family, instead of teaching them how to obey police officers, they end up getting themselves, you know, enmeshed in these. These really radical ideologies that fill this gaping hole and gets them in, like Renee Good puts it, ends up with her being cannon fodder.

[David Hoek]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

In the streets, confronting ICE where she should not have been. I disagree with you guys. I disagree with you guys. I think there are more. I mean, Nate Friedman exposes people all the time. Literally. Laura Ingram was interviewing someone the other day.

[Andrew Colvett]

So we have that. I have a response.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you guys ever see videos? There was a woman that he spotted at over 100 different. Yes. And they get paid to do this, and you can see that. And he exposes the different groups that pay these people. But also in terms of, like, a lot of it, I believe. Okay. I just think there's a higher. The thing is. Let me finish my thought. So in terms of, like, these natural groups coming out, like, it takes a few people to start something. And like, if there are 10 people that are getting paid and 10 people that are organizing something, they could get 250, 300 people out there to protest something because those 10 people started it. Yeah, that's exactly. That's how I believe.

[Andrew Colvett]

So I want us, since it's it's quick. Let's play the Laura Ingraham quick. Very quickly. 5:38. Do you have a job?

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you have a job?

[Andrew Colvett]

So the thing is, that's not proof that she's being paid to protest. What it really gets at. I suspect, and I don't know this for sure, but I suspect there are a huge number of organizations that the left controls where you can get, where you have unlimited opportunity to go protest whenever you want. So for example, the St. Paul Teachers Union is calling for all their teachers to go on basically strike.

[Charlie Kirk]

And all the schools doing walkouts.

[Andrew Colvett]

Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're at the capitol causing chaos.

[Andrew Colvett]

If you can walk out on your job as a teacher and no one will fire you, you can easily boast, I'm getting paid right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Haha.

[Andrew Colvett]

Like I know you can't do anything about it. And they have infinity things like that. Anyone who's working at these left wing universities, anyone who works at left wing NGOs, anyone who works at, you know, as a public school teacher where they indulge these things, the left has tons of institutions where they can park a full time political activist with very little real work demanded of them. And their job is be a left winger. That's very different from I'm a mercenary who's paid to protest.

[Charlie Kirk]

Take on that.

[Andrew Colvett]

What they're paid to be is to be left wing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and there's probably some of that. I agree with you, but I think it's my take on that was way more simple. I agree, I agree with Blake. I didn't, I didn't hear that. And go instantly like paid protester. I thought this is probably like a work from home job. And she was just mocking everybody going regardless, like everybody paid right now because my employer doesn't care that I'm here. Go watch Nate Friedman's work. Oh, you're right, you're right.

[David Hoek]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

But yes or no to armbands? Nah, I mean I'm open to all put them on. Need the armbands. Great week. We'll see on Monday. Until then, thanks everybody. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.