The Charlie Kirk Show, January 20, 2026

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – January 20, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Charlie Kirk (with Andrew Torba, Blake, Peter Schweitzer, and more)
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Air Date: January 20, 2026
Theme: Real News, Honest Views on American Politics, Culture, and Geopolitics

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Overview of Episode

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show delivers a high-energy analysis of America’s political and cultural landscape following the recent power shift in Virginia, the state of immigration and demographic change, the dynamics at the World Economic Forum in Davos, and deep concerns regarding both foreign influence, particularly from China, and the direction of Western democracies. Special guests include Senate candidate Nate Morris, Hillsdale College President Dr. Larry Arn, and author Peter Schweitzer.

The episode is driven by a central alarm: that progressive political victories are being used to advance a radical agenda, subvert American identity, and threaten U.S. sovereignty from within and without. The contrasting approach of Democrats and Republicans is dissected, and the threat posed by both internal leftist policies and external actors (notably China) is discussed at length.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Virginia’s Political Shift and "Progressive Wish List" ([05:28]-[13:53])

• Virginia, now fully Democrat-controlled, is cited as a test case for the speed and breadth of progressive policy implementation.

  • Sanctuary city policies, progressive criminal justice bills, bans on hand-counted ballots, expanded child healthcare grants, and explicit contract discrimination against white male-owned businesses are all discussed as part of the new agenda.
  • Quote:
    “Democrats in Virginia have introduced a bill that discriminates against white men in government contracting... White men are barred from even being considered unless there’s literally no competition.” — Andrew Torba (09:04)

• Alarm is raised about the consequences of such policies spreading nationwide if Republicans lose power in 2028.

  • The difference between “wish list” Democrat governance (enacting maximum change rapidly) and what the hosts view as timid Republican leadership is emphasized.

• Notable Satirical/Provocative Language:

  • The hosts describe the Democratic agenda as “Marxist,” “insane gay race Marxism,” and refer to the policy confluence of “beta males and Karens.”

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2. MLK Day, Racial Issues, and Accusations of "Anti-White" Sentiment ([10:24]-[23:14])

• The hosts argue that Martin Luther King Jr. Day has become an excuse for “anti-white, anti-meritocracy” activism and rhetoric.
• Michelle Obama’s comments about supporting black-owned fashion brands are cited and criticized.
  • Quote:
    “[Michelle Obama] comes out and says, I try to avoid buying products from people who are from the race that I don’t like, which is white people.” — Blake (19:32)
• The narrative is spun that America is the best place for minorities, despite ongoing accusations of systemic racism.
  • “African American test scores in America are higher than they are in Africa... same for Hispanics, same for Asian Americans.” — Andrew Torba (20:45)

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3. Fears of Historical Revisionism and Emotional Manipulation ([22:01]-[23:14])

• Pam Grier’s account of witnessing lynchings as a child is disputed with statistics, suggesting exaggeration and overuse of past hate to drive current divisiveness.
  • "The demand for hate in America vastly outstrips supply and it has for decades." — Blake (23:04)

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4. Current Events and U.S. Global Positioning – Trump at Davos ([23:26]-[25:04], [40:09]-[47:22]; [74:35]-[76:16])

• Updates on Trump’s strong economic policies after returning to office.

  • Growth rates described as 4–5% quarterly, with the U.S. presented as a global economic powerhouse.

• Tensions at Davos:

  • Trump’s negotiations regarding Greenland acquisition and 10% tariffs create anxiety among European leaders.

  • Macron and Ursula von der Leyen's overtures to China, with Europe entertaining Chinese investment as U.S.–EU relations strain.

  • Quote:
    “The world is not secure unless we have complete and total control of Greenland.” — Letter from President Trump (24:14)

• Hosts worry Europe could shift its allegiance to China if pushed too hard by U.S. policies, with warnings about Chinese influence and espionage.

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5. Immigration, Border Policies, and "Weaponized Migration" ([04:10]-[04:54]; [28:23]-[35:47]; [78:22]-[97:26])

• Discussion of misdemeanor vs. felony border crossing, and frustration over “rule-breaking” vs. “law-breaking.”

• Senate candidate Nate Morris discusses an immigration moratorium as essential for American survival, with Elon Musk’s major financial backing.

  • "You flood the country with foreigners and then it becomes an erasure of our own civilization." — Andrew Torba (32:20)

• Peter Schweitzer debuts his new book, The Invisible Coup, warning about foreign powers, particularly China, weaponizing immigration.

  • Massive numbers of CCP-connected individuals gaining U.S. citizenship via birth tourism and surrogacy is presented as a major national security threat.
  • Quote:
    "The Chinese government says... 100,000 Chinese nationals have done this a year over the course of the last 13 years. So you’re talking about a million people." — Peter Schweitzer (79:12)

• Fears expressed that these US-born, China-raised citizens could be used to swing elections and infiltrate American institutions starting in 2028 and beyond.

  • Agencies in California specialize in facilitating this process for wealthy Chinese clients.
  • European birthright citizenship programs are compared, and their restrictive reforms highlighted.

• Parallel drawn to “anchor baby” controversies and calls for Supreme Court action on birthright citizenship.

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6. The Future of the West: Conversation with Dr. Larry Arn ([52:28]-[73:20])

• Philosophical Underpinnings:
  Dr. Larry Arn lays out the difference between American natural rights constitutionalism and European historicism/Hegelian-progressive thought.

  • Inevitability is debunked: “Every person should banish the idea of inevitability in human affairs from their life.” — Dr. Larry Arn (54:00)
  • “It’s not trends that matter, it’s choices.” Arn invokes Churchill, arguing for agency and cyclical opportunity.

• Critique of the Deep State and centralization:

  • US governance pre-1930 saw federal spending at 12% of GDP; now it’s over 50%, with most federal power centralized.
  • Experimental social policies (“sex is not natural”; “replacement immigration”) are seen as contrary to essential human/natural law.

• Hope, Action, and Restoration:
  While alarmed, Arn urges against “black-pilling” (nihilistic despair), suggesting the fight for American constitutional government is not lost unless people lose faith and stop acting.

• On Europe and China:
  Arn predicts Europe may look to China if America withdraws support, due to Europe’s bureaucratic, unaccountable union and China’s rising, technocratic despotism.

  • Quote:
    "What is the European Union? Is it real accountability of the government to the people? ... it’s this bureaucratic state ... so what’s not to like about China to that bunch of people?" — Dr. Larry Arn (63:07)

• Encouragement to preserve, decentralize, and restore American institutions—a call to make Congress real and return to principles of the Constitution, with specific mention of ending bureaucratic law-making dominion.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Virginia’s policies:
  “Democrats in Virginia have introduced a bill that discriminates against white men in government contracting...” — Andrew Torba (09:04)

• On MLK Day:
  “It was anti white male, it was anti meritocracy, it was pure fiction in many regards.” — Andrew Torba (10:24)

• On citizenship:
  “We treat American citizenship like it’s worth nothing. ... Surely we should treat it like it is valuable. Foreigners clearly recognize that it’s valuable.” — Blake (36:25)

• On demography and identity:
  “You flood the country with foreigners and then it becomes an erasure of our own civilization, of our own culture.” — Andrew Torba (32:20)

• On Europe drifting to China:
  "... China is a top down society ... they liberated it enough so they can grow ... But on the other hand, tens of millions of them have been killed by the government. ... What's not to like about China to that bunch of people?" — Dr. Larry Arn (63:07)

• On trends and human action:
  "Every person should banish the idea of inevitability in human affairs from their life." — Dr. Larry Arn (54:00)

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Key Timestamps for Major Segments

• Virginia Policy Breakdown: [06:23]-[14:48]
• MLK Day and Racial Issues: [10:24]-[23:14]
• Trump at Davos, U.S./Europe/China Relations: [23:26]-[25:04]; [40:09]-[47:22]; [74:35]-[76:16]
• Discussion with Nate Morris: [28:23]-[37:59]
• Dr. Larry Arn Interview: [52:28]-[73:20]
• Peter Schweitzer on "Weaponized Migration": [78:22]-[97:26]

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Tone and Language Reflections

• The language is direct, polemical, and at times satirical—mixing alarmist analysis with sardonic humor (e.g., “insane gay race Marxism”, “making America great” riffed on Trump’s language, playful mispronunciation of “Don Lamond” for Don Lemon).
• Discussions often alternate between grand philosophical analysis (Dr. Arn on nature and the state) and detailed policy-grievance (Blake on contract quotas).
• Outrage and calls to action are common, but end-notes of hope and encouragement (preservation of American ideals, engagement in grassroots activism) are present—characteristic of Kirk’s ‘battle for the soul of America’ tone.

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Conclusion (For New Listeners)

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show is an urgent, ideologically driven critique of Democratic and progressive governance, a warning about foreign influence (with particular focus on China’s manipulation of immigration and economic levers), and a philosophical rallying cry for restoring American constitutional norms. Featuring high-profile guests providing both granular policy analysis and big-picture civilizational commentary, the show moves rapidly across topics, tying domestic concerns to international shifts, and aiming to energize listeners for political and cultural battle ahead.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Andrew Torba]

Guaranteed Human. The Charlie Kirk show starts now. Now we really know that this attack against diversity, equity inclusion is based on white male grievance and the fact that Donald Trump seems to really believe in the concept of reverse discrimination. Angry White male Studies is addressing topics.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Right out of our own headlines.

[Andrew Torba]

Angry White male studies is already causing a stir. It's been the talk of social media.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Everyone just, like, reposting it and, like.

[Andrew Torba]

Asking if it's a joke or not.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, it's just been on, like, all the Snapchat stories.

[Peter Schweitzer]

So it's been, like, big news.

[Andrew Torba]

Today, the class charts the rise of the angry white male in America and Britain since the 1905. According to the course description, students will explore the deeper sources of white man anger and evaluate recent manifestations of it. We wanted to know why the college is offering the course and what they'll be covering. But no word back from the professor or KU yet.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

We have to go after these MAGA men. One example would be Jesse Waters. This man talks incessantly about masculinity. Joe Biden is not masculine because he sucks on soup. What kind of man sucks on a straw? He goes on and on and on. So much about the idealized man, and that's a part of fascism, this, you know, propelling this form of toxic masculinity. Why are you so obsessed with men, Jesse Waters?

[Peter Schweitzer]

What's all that about?

[Andrew Torba]

Why are you so. So obsessed with trans people?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Why are you thinking about genitals all the time? Kind of flip the script, but trying.

[Andrew Torba]

To tie me as a journalist, as.

[Peter Schweitzer]

In to turn me into an activist. And I'm not.

[Andrew Torba]

I was. That they're in activism at all.

[Peter Schweitzer]

I was there just simply chronicling what they were doing, which is what journalists do all the time. And there's a certain degree of entitlement.

[Andrew Torba]

I think people who are, you know.

[Peter Schweitzer]

In religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy. And they think that this country was.

[Andrew Torba]

Built for them, that it is a Christian country.

[Peter Schweitzer]

When actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom. It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much. And so, yeah, absolutely, 100%, but it's an intimidation tactic. And, you know, I said, I don't.

[Nate Morris]

Understand how I've become the face of it.

[Andrew Torba]

When I was a journalist, I do.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Understand that I'm the biggest name there. And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you know, you and Kylie talk all the time. My producers were saying. I said, how did I become the face of this? And my producer said, don, you're a.

[Andrew Torba]

Gay black man in America.

[Terrence Bates]

The protest is fundamental to American society. This country started in a protest and, you know, it's freedom of expression.

[Andrew Torba]

People have a right to lift up.

[Terrence Bates]

Their voices and make their peace. And none of us are immune from.

[Andrew Torba]

The voice of the.

[Terrence Bates]

Of the public. So I quite honestly, I think that you got the First Amendment, freedom of religion and the freedom of First Amendment, freedom of expression.

[Andrew Torba]

You faced a lot of racism growing.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Up in Columbus, Ohio.

[Andrew Torba]

How did that shape you?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we would go from, you know, tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment, my brother and I, my mom with bags, and my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look. And she'd pull us away because there is someone hanging from a tree and they have a memorial for it now.

[Andrew Torba]

Where you can see where people were and left. And.

[Charlie Kirk]

It triggers me today to see that a voice can be silenced. And if a white family supported a black, they're going to get burned down or killed or lynched as well. Yeah. Okay.

[Andrew Torba]

Crossing the border illegally is not a crime. No, it's not a criminal act.

[Blake]

It's a misdemeanor.

[Andrew Torba]

So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law?

[Peter Schweitzer]

That's the point.

[Andrew Torba]

So misdemeanor is not a criminal. It's not a criminal act.

[Peter Schweitzer]

No, if you get charged with a.

[Blake]

Misdemeanor, that's not a criminal charge at all.

[Andrew Torba]

Then if it's not a criminal act, because we have different levels of crime.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Everything is not the same.

[Andrew Torba]

So it is crime.

[Peter Schweitzer]

No, it's just different levels. We have different levels of.

[Blake]

I shouldn't say crime, but it's not.

[Andrew Torba]

It's not.

[Peter Schweitzer]

You're not. It's not a crime. You're not breaking the law. I mean, you are breaking the law.

[Andrew Torba]

But it's not a criminal act.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is it law to come over legally?

[Blake]

Is there a law?

[Peter Schweitzer]

There are. There are rules that processes that you should follow.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Terrence Bates]

So you're breaking rules, you're breaking the.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Rules, but you're not necessarily breaking a law.

[Andrew Torba]

So what happens when you break the rules? Then you get.

[Peter Schweitzer]

You solve the consequences, but the consequences should not. It's. Look, no one is saying, no one.

[Terrence Bates]

Should stop with the consequences.

[Peter Schweitzer]

You guys are getting things mixed up.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show Every day there's.

[Andrew Torba]

A battle for your mind, raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fear not, you found the place for truth, the voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in.

[Andrew Torba]

The greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go.

[Peter Schweitzer]

All right.

[Andrew Torba]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It is January 20, 2026. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona. Have a jam packed show for you today. We've got Nate Morris, who's running for Senate in the great state of Kentucky, taking on the McConnell machine. He's coming up at the half hour in hour one. We've got Dr. Larry Arn, the great Dr. Larry Arn in studio at the top of hour two. And then Peter Schweitzer. We had a little bit of a scheduling faux pas yesterday that is happening in the second hour of hour two today. Lots going on to cover. We got a bunch of people in Davos, lots of things talking about there with is there a new global world order in the making? Canada, Macron in France, Ursula von der Leyen saying that there's a new financial system underway. So we're monitoring that and we have to keep our eyes on that. But more pressing on the home front is the topic of Virginia.

[Blake]

We started on this yesterday. We did, we mentioned because we were talking about sanctuary cities. And Abigail Spanberger takes over in Virginia, immediately throws out all cooperation with ice, which is going to put lives in danger. It's going to mean a lot more of those traumatic raids they say are so evil because it's way easier to arrest child rapists, robbers, murderers, etc. If you're just able to pick them up at a jail. But they're not going to do that. But they also have a trifecta in Virginia. So in addition to their Democrat governor, they have a Democrat state.

[Andrew Torba]

Do they have some the House of Delegates Delegates. Yeah, but everyone has, mind you, this is a state that Kamala Harris won by a mere six points.

[Blake]

Six point.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, no, but listen, this is not California. This is not even New York. This is not. This is six points. So a relatively, I mean, Arizona was won by six points, basically a little less than six points. And Virginia, what's interesting about the Virginia experience right now is that they've been in power for a matter of days and the litany of progressive causes wish list items, the in lockstep with zero pushback. So they ran advanced is truly stunning, people.

[Blake]

So as it was pointed out, they ran if you look at October 20, 2025 as electioneers, Democrats campaign on high utility bills, energy plans. So their, their campaign was electricity prices are too high. Vote for Democrats. We have a great track record on that I guess is their claim. But what they're now doing, they're in the legislature and they're introducing bills. Not all of these will pass, but it's a very good insight into what their agenda is generally.

[Andrew Torba]

Some of that most of them are.

[Blake]

Some of that people have heard about already. They want to change their house map to be 10 to 1. We also have, let's see, we have a bill to reduce the punishments for robbery offenses and it will also reclassify some forms of robbery so they are no longer violent crimes. Even if they use violent coercion on people. So not a violent crime, which means much lower penalties. They want to get rid of Virginia's Republican version of criminal justice where three violent crimes can get you life in prison. We have a bill to ban the hand counting of ballots if they are machine readable, just specifically has to be machine counted. We have a bill to put out home child based health care grants. I wonder where they got that idea.

[Andrew Torba]

There won't be any fraud in that at all, rest assured. Listen to this one. Democrats in Virginia have introduced a bill that discriminates against white men in government contracting for discretionary contracts under $100,000. White men are barred from even being consist considered unless there's literally no competition. And even then this bill allows agencies to award contracts to women or minority owned firms that are 5% more expensive than a bid from a business owned by a white man.

[Blake]

Yeah, they set a statewide explicit quota goal of having 42% of contracts go to certified small swam businesses. I think that is women and minority owned businesses. And they basically have the goal of getting up to 42% and so they have to increase the percent by 3% a year until they reach it. And yeah, so the order is give out contracts to people based on the race, on the sex of the owner, even if they cost taxpayers more, even if it's less able to supply that. We already know, we know from decades of experience how this works. One of the most common ways people fill this is they just create a company and all it does is buy from a better, let's be frank, a better white male owned company. They jack up the price by the amount they're allowed to get away with and they just take that cut as their profits.

[Andrew Torba]

Their profit pure arbitrage. Well, and I don't know if anybody else noticed this. But yesterday was MLK day and it was as if the, it was used as a giant excuse for libs just to say crazy things. It was anti white male, it was anti meritocracy, it was pure fiction in many regards. But it became like this rallying point. I think they spilled blood in the water. And there's a tendency to overreact to Trump era politics. Right. We saw this with the border. President Trump wanted to build the wall. It was a big talking point. It was a big controversy in Trump 1.0. So what did Dems do? As soon as Biden gets in power, completely opens the border, undoes everything that was. That the President, President Trump administration had done in, in 45. And then you get 10 to 15 million illegals flooding the border. Yeah. And you get the same pattern on repeat now in Virginia. And it is a precursor of what will happen to the country if we lose power in the midterms, if we, God forbid, lose power in 2028.

[Blake]

It's, it's a real pattern that has to be recognized and we have to remind people of it over and over, which is there's much more of a gap between I believe, what a Republican base might want and what a Republican majority will in practice do. Frankly, a lot of our guys flake on stuff in an annoying way, of course. So you're not going to get the maximal conservative dream plan. Anytime Republicans get a trifecta in a state, it just doesn't happen. Whereas with Democrats, they very much have this set of let's go get Abigail Spanberger. And she. Okay. She worked for the CIA. We can't tell you what she did, but it was probably really boring and she looks nice and respectable and, or, or Minnesota, you'll run Tim Walls, who's just your social science teacher looking. Yeah, Hicklib white guy. And. But then what they are going to reliably pass at the state level is basically, I don't know, insane gay race Marxism or whatever.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. Confluence between beta males and Karens. And they, they used the, the fronts of these soft progressive, white, you know, sort of presentable libs like Spamberger here. And then they, they go full Marxism. This is a tweet from Cernovich. I thought it boiled it down really well. 277 Democrats won Virginia and are going full Marxist. Taxes at California levels, banning white men from government contracts, surveillance tech, cameras to issue tickets, Internet voting, gun bans. There is no such thing as a moderate Democrat.

[Blake]

Or as an example. So Virginia had a Republican trifecta for A while they. After Dobbs, they did not pass a total abortion ban in the state of Virginia. But what they did just the Virginia Senate is passing right now is they're voting to put out a constitutional amendment that would be abortion until birth as a constitutional right in Virginia. Which they're going to go for the absolute maximalist position.

[Andrew Torba]

Exactly. And they do it without flinching, without thinking. They just go. And all of this stuff was preplanned. It was prepackaged. It was the plan all along. And to Blake's point earlier, what did they run on? They ran on utility rates. They ran on utility bills. That's what they told the public. And then they go in there and they go full Marxist. That is the insidious, unyielding force that we are up against, that we are fighting.

[Blake]

I didn't even know about this one. Another Virginia Democrat introduced a bill. It would make it a crime to approach within 8ft of a person who is within 40ft of an abortion clinic.

[Andrew Torba]

Jeez. Yeah. And by the way, yesterday I got all these texts from, like, some of my, you know, people that I wouldn't even call some of them friends, but they're libs going, like, how is this a face act violation? With Don Lamond going. And yes, we call him Don Lamont. It's Don Lemon. I got a bunch of notes on that Don Lamond. It's just a fun way to make fun of him.

[Blake]

They clearly were not watching Tucker Carlson in 2018.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, exactly. But Don Lamond goes into, you know, a church. He is an activist. He kissed the. The organizer. There's video footage of that. And he said, thank you for your service. He was not an independent journalist. He was an activist.

[Charlie Kirk]

And.

[Andrew Torba]

And I get all these. Oh, that wasn't a Face act violation. Oh, yeah. Well, the Virginia Democrats are about to, you know, criminalize going within 8ft of a activist fighting abortion.

[Blake]

We'll be right back.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Blake]

There is.

[Andrew Torba]

And that is.

[Blake]

You still see a lot of that. You see a lot of, frankly, there's a lot of triumphalism on the right. They very quickly default to that after an election win. And you are not you. This is not a field battle. You have not vanquished them.

[Andrew Torba]

No, not at all.

[Blake]

And even if you do, they, they just come back and it's much more of a. It's a long grind. It's like a zombie horde. It's like some form. It's like lava flowing towards you or something.

[Andrew Torba]

Right. It is a brain rot that 10. And it infects the left in a very collectivist, hive minded way in which they all act in lockstep. And it's interesting because our side is. We are a rowdy bunch. We're, we're independent thinkers. That's very, very true. But just yesterday, this is what's crazy. You have AG Eric Holder accusing Trump administration of trying to resegregate America. You had Jim Clyburn going on the View claiming Republicans are trying to bring back slavery. You had Pam Grier says she had to close her eyes as a kid in Ohio to avoid seeing blacks hung in trees.

[Blake]

There's a lot of it which is false. But I think the absolute wildest thing was actually the clip from Michelle Obama.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes.

[Blake]

Very casually comes out and says, I try to avoid buying products from people who are from the race that I don't like, which is white people. Let's play 287.

[Andrew Torba]

If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that.

[Charlie Kirk]

They'Re a person of color, I try.

[Andrew Torba]

To make it a point. But the clothes have to be available. You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes. You know, what does our closet look like and who's in it? Who are we supporting in it?

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Andrew Torba]

You know, and I think if you have the money to buy Chanel, then you have the money to buy everybody. Right. And so let us be mindful, I think would be my advice.

[Blake]

Yeah, I'll, I'll confess, I would have never known the race of any person.

[Andrew Torba]

Never even occurred to me.

[Blake]

Clothing item I wear, not the least because I'm sure I know the brand of any clothing item that I wear.

[Andrew Torba]

And by the way, that, that's a. That's a group of wealthy black women sitting around a table moaning about how.

[Blake]

Racist America is when they are in, let's just be frank, the country that is the best for people of African descent anywhere in the world.

[Andrew Torba]

Correct. Period. Did you know that African American test scores in America are higher than they are in Africa?

[Blake]

Oh yeah. And as low as they are other countries with a large amount, the Caribbean, Brazil, so on.

[Andrew Torba]

They are higher here than any other country. And by the way, that's true for Hispanics. Hispanic Americans have higher test scores than just about any other country in the world. That's the same for Asian Americans. Say for like Hong Kong. Hong Kong. I guess Hong Kong's a city.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hong Kong's own.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, it's sort of its own thing. But I think there's like one standout.

[Blake]

We're a very talented country that gets a lot out of all the people who live here.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes. And yet yesterday became a rallying point for them to bemoan, criticize and delegitimize America. It's funny. It's funny why that is. Where do you think this hatred originates?

[Blake]

On a day where it's a holiday to celebrate a famous black American that.

[Andrew Torba]

America was so racist that it gave an entire day to a black American. That is a day that has become a rallying point to bemoan America, make it make sense. I just found it really offensive.

[Blake]

And then it didn't let them kind of bash America enough. So we had to create another holiday in June to try to out compete the 4th of July.

[Andrew Torba]

Right. So that's how ridiculous it's all become. It's all become a parody of itself. And I just have to play this Pam Grier clip really quick because it's so annoying to me. 269. You faced a lot of racism growing up in Columbus, Ohio. How did that shape you?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we would go from, you know, tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment, my brother and I, my mom with bags. And my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look. And she'd pull us away because there was someone hanging from a tree. And they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left. And it triggers me today.

[Andrew Torba]

Pam Greer was born in 1949 and the last lynching that was ever recorded in Ohio was 1911. But there really weren't that many lynchings. I'm just going to be honest. They were horrendous.

[Blake]

There were several thousand, but it's you know, as we well, we'll have to get into that one with Nate Morris. But the demand for hate in America vastly outstrips supply and it has four decades.

[Andrew Torba]

It just goes unchallenged on the View. We'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. Welcome to the next break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump heads to Davos, Switzerland, tonight in advance of his speech tomorrow at the world economic forum. U.S. treasury Secretary Scott Besant, though already on the ground there and even offering up remarks just a little while ago.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Today marks one year since President Trump's historic return to office. The United States enters his 250th year from a position of great economic strength. We are by all measures the strongest place for capital in the world. President Trump has led a 12 month transformation of the US economy. Our capital markets are unmatched in their depth and breadth.

[Nate Morris]

Economic growth reached approximately 4% in the President's first two full quarters in office.

[Peter Schweitzer]

And exceeded 5% in the fourth quarter.

[Nate Morris]

And the Atlanta GDP Fed now is showing 5.3%.

[Terrence Bates]

Other speakers set to take the podium this afternoon include Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, French President Emmanuel Macron, as well as the prime minister and the minister of foreign affairs of Qatar, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and China's vice premier both spoke earlier today. While the speaker's list is once again, excuse me, a who's who of world political and business leaders, President Trump, arguably the most anticipated speaker as the world waits to hear what he has to say. We'll of course, have live coverage from Davos, Switzerland, throughout the day here on Real America's Voice. And of course, tomorrow when President Trump speaks. Once President Trump arrives in Davos, a number of European leaders will likely be looking to have a private talk with him about the impending 10% tariffs due to their opposition to the president's plan to take control of Greenland. That plan continuing to make headlines this morning thanks to this letter the commander in chief sent Norway's prime minister earlier this week. POTA starts the letter writing, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus, I now no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of, of America. The president ends his note writing, the world is not secure unless we have complete and total control of Greenland. That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

[Peter Schweitzer]

The voice of generations.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is the Charlie Kirk show.

[Andrew Torba]

When I would travel with Charlie, there was this weird phenomenon that would happen where people would, you know, he would do Q and A's, whether it was a small group or a large group. And people would always ask him about one of our partners. And that was strongcell. And it happened again and again and I couldn't believe it. And Charlie, I looked at him one time and I was like, does this happen a lot? And he was like, everywhere I go. Strong cell is a. As a partner of the show. And what it is, it's supplement that delivers an amazing enzyme called nadh. And it's what powers every single cell in the body. So if you're struggling with brain fog, fatigue, a lack of energy, constant illness, you could try this and it will probably make you feel a lot better. It's kind of something that's newer on the market in the last couple years and Charlie was a big believer in it. I'm a big believer in it. And they're back on the show so, so excited about that. They're amazing people that run this company. Really good, good guys. Nadh, Nadh. You gotta check out nadh. Do your own research. It's a powerhouse. It will change the way you feel, the energy that you have. And now you can try StrongCell completely risk free with their 90 day money back guarantee. That's right. It's completely risk free to try. Go visit StrongCell [e-mail] that's C, E L L. Like selling your body Strong cell and use promo code Charlie at checkout to save 20%. That's strongcell.com and don't forget to use the promo code Charlie. Big shout out to CK there. He loved that product. So please check it out. StrongCell.com Another thing that Charlie loved was the state of Kentucky and he one of his last endorsements was the great Nate Morris who is fighting the McConnell machine and he's doing a great job. Big, huge, earth shattering sense of shockwave through the political world this week. Elon Musk has pledged $10 million to Nate Morris's campaign to reclaim a senate seat for a staunch pro America, America first candidate in that state. And he's joining us now. Nate Morris. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show.

[Nate Morris]

Oh, it's great to be with you both. Thank you for having me.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. Well, it's interesting because Nate, Charlie was really close with Elon and had a big belief in Elon. Even when Elon and Trump had a falling out, he famously now Called his shot when it happened. He said, I predict Elon and President Trump are gonna be having dinner by Christmas at the White House. That came true. And part of it happened at Charlie's memorial, of course. Yeah, he was a big believer in Elon. And now Elon has come to your side and is pledging $10 million of support for you and Charlie endorsed you. So it's just kind of full circle moment for us here on the show to watch this happen, tell us what it means and how did this transpire.

[Nate Morris]

Yeah, Elon is the great visionary of our time. I mean, we're going to be talking about Elon for hundreds of years, if not thousands of years, and what he's done for humanity. And we had a terrific meeting. I think he was very animated by the way that we've been contrasting against Mitch McConnell, his record. And obviously Iwan appreciated my entrepreneurial and business background. And I don't think he's a fan of career politicians. And he knows that we've got to get change in Washington and we got to get so tough, particularly on immigration. And I think these were the things that.

[Andrew Torba]

I'm sorry to interrupt, Nate. I just have a very. I'm very curious about this because one of my favorite parts of your platform is that you're calling for an immigration moratorium. I think if we get 10, 15 guys in the Senate on our side and we maintain control, this is actually something that really could be done. We just have to get this critical mass in. And Blake and I have talked about, it's like the switch, the one switch that fixes so much, that is ailing switch to fix everything. Yeah, if we get this one issue right, you gotta get voter id, same day voting. All that stuff's really important. A lot of guys are working on the SAFE act, but I'm curious because Elon in the past, I remember this clip during the Biden flood of immigrants, he went down to visit the border himself and he was appalled. But he made this comment saying, well, I still want all this legal immigration. I just wanna cut off all this stuff. This is crazy, but you and I are more hardline than this. And I'm curious how that conversation with Elon went.

[Nate Morris]

I think Elon, he talked about Western civilization in our meeting. And I think that this is a fight for Western civilization. And we have been ingesting people from the third world, people from all over the world that wish to do us harm. And Andrew, you know, we can't bring in people that wish to do us harm and think that we're going to get a good result. And we, you know, look at this Somali situation. I mean, what an absolute and utter disgrace. And they have been ripping us off. They've been taking advantage of America's compassionate system. They come over here illegally, they get on our rolls. And Democrats love it because they know this is the only way that they're going to win elections, is they've got to flood us with all this illegal population so they can change the composite of our country to go out and win elections. And I think Elon gets that. And I think our immigration moratorium, this has got to happen to save the country. And that's why I've been so forceful. And Andrew, you may remember a lot of people said, oh, this is an extreme position. You know, this is a too hard right. This is too far. Let me tell you, this is a moderate position today. This is an absolutely moderate position given what's happened in our country, is that this should have been done a long time ago. And just because we're America doesn't mean we have to let everybody in our country. And it is a pleasure, it is a privilege, it is the absolute greatest honor in the world to be an American citizen. And we can't give that out like Mardi Gras beats. I mean, this has been crazy what we've done. And all these Democrats and all these rhino Republicans who've allowed this nonsense to go on, they should be ashamed of themselves for letting our country get into the place that it's in today.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. And Blake, I would love for you to expound on this, but there is something that happens to a people where you flood the country with foreigners and then it becomes an erasure of our own civilization, of our own culture. And you stop having kids, fertility rates drop, the sense of ownership in their.

[Blake]

You become a defeated people. And there are examples of that in history where it's just when a culture, it loses its vitality, it loses its sense of the future and it just sort of. It falls apart.

[Andrew Torba]

It's because you don't look around and see that this is your culture anymore, that you control it, that you own it, that you have your own agency over the future of its direction because you feel like a foreigner in your own home. And there's something, I think, weird, and you've seen this in historical models as well. When you hit about 14, 15% foreign born or immigrant of the total population, you saw this in like the 1920s, early 20s, when they instituted massive immigration reforms. Then something Happens, you know, And I think people have to reclaim a sense of American identity, of American culture and agency over the future of their country. I think that's what's happening here. I think at a deeper level, MAGA is this sort of cry to regain and reconstitute an American identity that is like what we remember growing up, like what we had when we were kids. And so, I mean, I'm just, I'm thrilled that Elon got behind you in this way. And I want you to reflect on kind of some of these stances that, you know, that you have. But what we're seeing in Minnesota as well, which I believe is an existential challenge to the Trump administration about the legitimacy of federal law. Can you weigh in on what's happening in Minneapolis, Minnesota, more broadly?

[Nate Morris]

Yeah, and it's not surprising. I mean, you have people like Tim Wallace and that mayor, that Fry guy. I mean, you have those people in charge there. I mean, what do you expect to get? I mean, these people, they have just let these folks run roughshod over them in Minnesota, take advantage of them, get on the system, milk the system, commit all this fraud and did nothing about it. And the Democrats put this guy on their ticket. I mean, can you believe that? And they had to know this stuff was going on. I mean, it's so blatantly obvious. And Andrew, I think that when we, when we get into the particulars of this, we're going to find all throughout the country that all these migrant populations that have come into places like California, Texas, Florida, you name it, even here in Kentucky, there's fraud underneath every bit of that. And this has been a scam the Democrats and people have been running to not only flood our system with changing population, but also to get rich and to have these get rich schemes. I mean, gosh, I mean, look at this daycare system. I mean, what an absolute and utter disgrace. Millions of dollars to start a daycare when we got people in Kentucky that are trying to bust it, trying to make a living, trying to put food on the table and can't even buy groceries. And we got Somalis up there getting rich off the daycare system. I mean, what is wrong with this picture? And this stuff's got to stop once and for all. You know, I just talked to my buddy, James Comer the other day, and he said, Nate, he said, we're going to haul him before oversight. He said, and you're going to find this is going to be the greatest fraud in the history of America. And I believe it, and I'M so glad that President Trump is going to get tough and make sure all these people are held accountable.

[Blake]

Yeah, Nate, it really is. It's just, I think the idiom that Charlie would use, it's like America is just treated like a giant pile of money to be looted. Like, oh, like you busted into the treasury of Babylon and just grab your pile of gold before it's all gone. And it's that we give all of that away. We give away the wealth of our country and we give away our citizenship, the right to be here. That's the entire idea with the moratorium. It's that we. We treat American citizenship like it's worth nothing. And if we really believe America is great, surely we should treat it like it is valuable. Foreigners clearly recognize that it's valuable.

[Andrew Torba]

It's interesting because even at, like, Amfest, our big events, Right. I mean, we'd love to give those tickets away for free. It's not about the money. It isn't. We want to create these rallying points. What we found is if you don't charge anything, people take it for granted. They don't show up. They don't take it seriously. You have to charge something. And the same concept could be applied to citizenship. When you make it so cheap and so easy and so flimsy, people degrade it, they spit on it, they desecrate it, and we have to make it expensive again. We have to make it precious again. There's not really a question in there, Nate, but I'd love for you to respond to that and tell us, give us a sense of where your race is at now, what is changing, because you've been slowly building in the polls this whole time against a really formidable opponent. It's not Mitch McConnell, but it's the machine that he's left that he's leaving in, in that state. Yeah.

[Nate Morris]

And, Andrew, I'll just first say, everybody listening here, we all need to take a look at what, what's happened in Europe. You know, if you want to get a preview for what the, the play that the Democrats are running, look what's happened to the United Kingdom. I mean, my dear friend Vice President JD Vance said that the UK will be the first nation that's Islamic with a nuclear weapon in the next decade. Now think about that. Now, all this stuff that's happening over in Europe, this stuff is all coming here. And this is the same playbook that was run over there so the Brits could lose their country. It's coming here to the United States in a big way. And that's why we've got to get so, so tough. And it's shameful what's happened to Europe, but we cannot let that happen here in the United States. You know, as far as this race goes.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, 36.

[Nate Morris]

I'm an outsider. I'm an outsider. I'm a business guy. I've never run for office before. You know, I came in, I started out unknown to the voters of Kentucky because I've never been in politics. My two opponents, they've made careers out of politics. You know, somebody like Andy Barr has almost been in politics for two decades. And we were up against the McConnell machine, and they are doing everything that they can to make sure that McConnell's cronies, his lobbyists, his infrastructure, that they've got a horse to ride for another 40 years. And this is what this race is all about. And Charlie saw that. He, yeah, he saw the infrastructure that we were going to be up against.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, and we know. Yeah, we're watching closely, Nate, and we got your back 100%. We'll have you on again soon. We'll talk to you soon. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We have one more segment in this hour, and then we're going to be welcoming the great president of Hillsdale College, and that is Dr. Larry Arne. It will be in studio with us. Very excited about that. But we're going to take, take our eyes and we're going to turn our attention to what's happening at Davos. Now, there is a very, very interesting thing that we are watching happen a phenomena, and there's multiple pieces to this thread that you could pull right this. And, and you, you will, you will get to something that's happening. So basically, you've got the Greenland contention that's happening. Denmark's not happy with us. NATO is. You know, some of our NATO partners are not happy with the pressure campaign that Trump is pushing to acquire Greenland. So then all these Davos leaders go over there and they're kind of saying, hey, we love you, the United States, but what you're doing is wrong. We made a deal. You can't add, you can't add new tariffs on top of a deal that was already made. And then you've got guys like Macron.

[Blake]

Who are messaging him behind the scenes. And then it's not behind the scenes.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, but then he goes, he's, he's wearing sunglasses for some reason. I don't understand this. But let's play this clip. It's a little hard to understand because of his accent, but we'll break it down on the other side to 90. China is welcome. But what we need is more Chinese foreign diet investment in Europe in some key sectors to contribute to our growth, to transfer some technologies and not just to export towards Europe. Some devices or producers or products which sometimes don't have the same standards or.

[Nate Morris]

Are more, are much more subsidized as.

[Andrew Torba]

The one being produced in Europe. So you pair this with what's happening in Canada. So you got Carney that basically goes, travels over to the ccp, they roll out the red carpet forum, Brave new era, new world order. China is being welcomed in by the same actors that Trump is challenging. So Trump is shaken up everything and now they're basically trying to fight back and say, well, we've had enough of the tariffs, we've had enough of the bullying, we've had enough of the Greenland stuff. So you've got Carney welcoming the cp. Then you got French President Macron. And I'll translate. He said China is welcome. And he's asking instead of just exports that have different standards, lower standards and are subsidized from China, we want you to invest in Europe. That's a huge thing to invite foreign.

[Blake]

Direct investment in Europe with the Greenland thing. An argument that's been made in support of it is basically saying Europe are, they're vassals of the United States. They're just clients of the United States. And Europe is. They are actually quite aware that they've, they've put themselves in a bad spot. They've underinvested in their military for a long time. They've messed up their own industrial industry and manufacturing. Germany, they've really screwed things up. And they actually are kind of aware of this. They were very aware of it during trade negotiations and they kind of recognize they're in a weak position here. But one thing that they can point out is they can say, okay, we are basically vassals of the United States, but we could in fact go be vassals of somebody else and use that as our way to come back. And I think, I think it is worth thinking about that, that in the end we are stronger than Europe and Europe has been a free rider on this and our goal needs to be, I think, to, and this is mentioned in our own, in President Trump's national security strategy that came out a few months ago. The goal needs to be that Europe has to take more responsibility for itself, that we want to re. Cultivate Europe as a viable, as more of an ally rather than just a freeloader. And that's important for any number of reasons. We talk about Islamization of the west so often on the show, because it does matter. It really does matter to all of us. If Britain, the birthplace of all the liberties that we care about, the birthplace, ultimately the mother country of this one, if it becomes this Islamic dump. And it matters the same way if France goes that way, if Germany goes that way, if Denmark does that way. And what we want is we want them to be robust, we want them to have real militaries, we want them to have to not be having replacement migration. We want them to have real economies, because we do. Ultimately, even if they're annoyingly liberal in a lot of ways, we'd prefer to work with them, I think, over China, like a completely alien culture, a completely alien mode of government, one that is far more hostile to human freedom, one that is far more hostile to religion and Christianity, hostile to America, hostile to America that has a lot of grievances with us. And I just think we should be aware of that. And we have to think about that with Canada as well. Greenland really is important to our national security, but it's also important to our national security. If Canada, the, I think the largest economy in the Americas after us, if they're suddenly just our largest.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah.

[Blake]

If they're deciding to align with China because they decide they're just mad at us.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. So here's, here's the question. Is this saber rattling? Is this, is this a warning? Is this a warning shot? Or do they really mean it? And I think that the truth will only bear out in the coming years. I mean, we're going to have to watch to see, you know, if Macron really does want Chinese investment. You got to believe that every single chip, every single product will become a tool of espionage in that country, a tool of control. And you be careful what you wish for. France, Canada, the, the un, NATO, these, these people, they are cruel masters. China will be cruel masters and they will extract their pound of flesh. We have been allowing Europe to freeload off of us for decades and decades. Basically, the post World War II order is one giant story of Europe freeloading off of us. But they've been useful allies at times as well. They've also been complicit in a censorship industrial complex. They've used NATO to try and squash populist uprisings across the Western world, which is not okay. They've used. I think they've lost sight of some of their original ideals, such as free speech. Freedom of expression UK is ground zero for that. There are real problems in the NATO alliance. The question is, can you create something better? I don't.

[Blake]

I think we can.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, out of can you reform it or do you have to reconstitute it entirely?

[Blake]

But that's the thing. I think one thing to worry about is America does have a lot of strengths that derive from how dominant we were for nearly a century at this point, that after World War II, we created a financial system that centers around the United States, we created a defense system that centers around the United States, and we created a trade system that centered around the United States. And I think if you were creating any of those things from scratch today, we would not be as powerful in that as we basically are by virtue of inertia. So if you inspire the Europeans to, even if they're just throwing a temper tantrum, they go, they throw a temper tantrum and, and they drift away from the dollar or they drift away from trade with the United States, it will be harder to reconstitute that than it is to maintain it. That's a classic conservative principle. It's easier to maintain things than it is to build them.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. And you do have to look at the post World War II order as a snapshot in time. It was a confluence of so many different variables coming together. America was largely industrialized, unscathed in many ways on the home front. Europe had to rebuild. We had a 10 year head start, maybe a 15 year head start on the rest of the world. And it entrenched us as the economic superpower and it would be harder to rebuild that now, to reconstitute it. We will see what happens and we will watch it closely. Dr. Larry Arn joins us next.

[Terrence Bates]

For real America's Voice news break we appreciate you being here with us. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt preparing for her latest press briefing. It's happening on the one year anniversary of President Trump returning to office and hours before he leaves for Davos, Switzerland and the World Economic Forum, RAF congressional correspondent Benny Ray Harmony joining us from the White House this afternoon with the very latest. So what's the expectation? Lots on the table, Benny Ray.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Yeah, Terrence, lots on the table. Everything from the world, the economic forum to this press briefing that is about to happen now. You know, Trump's first year in office was absolutely terrific with the amount of policies and the amount of executive orders that were signed. And now it is the administration's duty and the GOP and people here on Capitol Hill to codify some Some of these major things that are going to help Americans now in this press briefing, Terrence, we are getting some word that we could potentially expect a special guest. So people at home be watching. This press briefing will most likely be a pretty big one with lots of conversations about what's going on in Minneapolis, lots of conversations about that Insurrection Act. But, but Terrence, going back to the World Economic Forum, President Trump, he is preparing to depart to head to Switzerland with our correspondent Brian Glenn is there on the ground. And like Brian was talking about yesterday, the new World Order, just ensuring that the other countries and the world understands America as a powerhouse. And I think that is really what today and these next few days are going to show.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah, America being a powerhouse, I think is pretty evident. President Trump posting on true social text messages that he'd received from other world leaders in anticipation of his arrival. I suspect, though, Benny Ray, that the issue of Greenland is going to be front and center at the World Economic Forum. Very likely. Also many questions that Caroline Levitt will take on that very issue today.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Yeah. And Terrence, this whole conversation of Greenland, you know, I really think what Trump, what President Trump is doing is very good. He is teasing the American people, he is teasing the press, and he is putting little seeds. He wants Greenland. And I have no doubt that if that's what he wants, he's going to find a way to get it. Marco Rubio said last night at the game that he had some serious conversations that he needed to have with President Trump. So I think lots of conversations are happening. I would expect. I don't know, I don't know about your perspective, Terrence, but I think that us taking over Greenland is going to be happening in the near future.

[Terrence Bates]

No, absolutely. The conversations are already underway. President Trump even offering payment for the island. You mentioned the game. President Trump really showing that age is just a number because he is going, going, going like an Energizer bunny. He was on the airplane headed back to Washington, D.C. on Air Force One early this morning, like 2, 3 o' clock this morning. And then going to be getting back on Air Force One this evening around 8 o', clock, heading over to Davos. He's an Energizer bunny. I'm tired and I'm just reporting on it. So I can only imagine what he's dealing with.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Now.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

And one of my favorite things President Trump said in his little gaggle that he had before he got on the plane last night, he says this a lot, how, how America is the hottest country. And Terrence, when I hear the word hottest, I think of looks, right? I think, okay, yeah, he's saying America is the hottest country. But, you know, it's, he said that the whole idea of everything is to make America great. And that is the whole idea of the Trump presidency. So we'll be, we'll be seeing a lot more these next couple days and be on the ground covering that. But, yes, we're going to head in to this press briefing, so we will. We'll talk to you soon, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

All right. We appreciate you being here again, Benny Ray Harmony reporting for us live there at the White House as we anticipate Caroline Levitt taking the podium here in short order and offering up her latest press briefing. In the meantime, lots of other headlines that we want to kind of bring you up to speed on. About 1500 troops stationed in Alaska are on orders to prepare to deploy to Minnesota as part of President Trump's threat to invoke the insurrection act in that state following massive protests, excuse me, surrounding the current immigration crackdown there. The active duty soldiers are on standby in case violence in Minneapolis and St. Paul escalates. It's not clear if they'll actually have boots on the ground or when they'd be deployed, but they are at the ready at the moment. And three of the country's most influential Catholic archbishops are questioning the current U.S. foreign policy and the morality behind some of the decisions being made in Washington. While the joint statement from the trio doesn't name President Trump directly, it does say in part, quote, In 2026, the United States has entered into the most profound and searing debate about the moral foundation for America's actions in the world. Well, that's a quick check of your headline.

[Andrew Torba]

All right. Hour two is underway at the Charlie Kirk Show. Welcome back. We are honored by the presence of a great man, great patriot, great friend of Charlie's, and Turning Point, and that is the president of Hillsdale College, Dr. Larry Arn. Welcome. Welcome back, sir.

[Charlie Kirk]

Great to be with you.

[Andrew Torba]

Honored. Honored as always, to have you, to have your friendship and your partnership and to have your thoughts when it comes to this show, because we are sort of a news of the day. We cover these changing themes, the world events. And one of the things that we were talking about in hour one was you sort of have two storylines that I think are going to prove tectonic. You have Virginia is now Democrat run. Governor Youngkin is no more. We've got Spanberger and the Democrat, she's got, I mean, it's a trifecta Right. They've got the legislature and they've got the governor's mansion. They're going full Marxist instantly. Trump lost that state by six points. That's six points. But they are. They're acting like full on California simultaneously. You've got a storyline in Davos where they're signaling a green light to China.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

And it might be easy for us to sort of black pill on this. And I guess there is a question, you know, a larger question overarching all of this, which is, are liberal Western democracies prone or is it inevitable, this slide into a malaise, into a. Into leftism? There's a lot there, Dr. Arm. But you're the only one I could think of that could handle all of those questions all at once.

[Charlie Kirk]

There you go. Well, the first thing is that every person should banish the idea of inevitability in human affairs from their life.

[Andrew Torba]

Perfect.

[Charlie Kirk]

One of the themes you learn if you study the very great Winston Churchill is it's not trends that matter, it's choices. And you just think of the amazing reversals that have happened in the world. I mean, Trump is such a reversal. Right. That's the reason he's hated, because remember, these movements, China is part of the movement, and European Union is part of the movement. And the liberalism in Western liberal democracies, it's progressivism. And that's part of. That's an offshoot of German historicism. And its thought is history is going somewhere. We can know what that is, and we can serve it. And where it's going is the transformation of everything under our control. That's what they believe. That's one of the biggest ideological movements. If you want to. If anybody wants to read that, Hillsdale College has a Constitution course with a Constitution reader. Every kid has got to take it. You can get it. The last third of it is the writing of the early American progressives. And what they believed was, this is inevitable, this is going to happen. And it's the only promise. Because we now know, by the way, that we don't really know anything objectively, and we know that there is no God. And so the old idea of the laws of nature and nature's God, they reject that. And so this is their effort to give meaning, meaning to lives that they think fundamentally don't have any. And. And so, yeah, it's fierce. Right. They believe in it. They believe in it as bringing meaning to their lives. And that means they won't lightly reform. Now, why are they not. Is it not inevitable? Well, first of all, it won't work. It can't work. A human being is a thing. I was just in there watching Charlie's children eat their breakfast, and what delightful kids. Charlie married above himself, and he was a heck of a guy. Still, he managed to do that. So that's nature, right?

[Terrence Bates]

She.

[Charlie Kirk]

She mourns her husband, and she loves those kids and the energy it takes to raise those kids. That's nature. Actually, the word nature comes from a Latin word that means birth, that cannot go away except toward destruction. So, and in America, in Virginia, I mean, first of all, who lives in Northern Virginia? And what do they. What do they do for a living? And so just remember, gradually and over a long time, this kind of thing has been deeply entrenched in the American government. And there's an effort when, When Donald Trump says drain the swamp, he says something revolutionary. He's talking about. I. I even think he knows it, but it certainly. It's what it means. He's talking about returning to a form of government that is more limited, that is more local, and that places responsibility in individual hands and community hands. If you just take a snapshot of the government of the United states anytime before 1930 and compare it to a snapshot today, you will see that the government is much larger as a percentage of the economy. Since 1930, it's gone from 12% to 51%. And it is much more centralized. The federal government has gone of that 12%. The federal government was about 23%. Now of the 51%, it's about 63%. And then it passes money down. Right? So we have a centralized form employing millions of people with interest and groups wedded to it, including lots of economic interest, but all kinds of interest. And it gets its moral energy from this thing. We can recreate the world. I mean, the family. I just talked about Charlie's children, and you just talked about a bill that sex is not natural. It's what it says. But come to find out, every living person comes from that process, and it took two. Now, pretty soon, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get the ability to manufacture people, then we will further look at people as manufactured items instead of creatures blessed with divine reason. So, yeah, that's where it's going, because it won't work. I mean, all you gotta. That hideous strength mentioned a minute ago, right.

[Andrew Torba]

Blake's got the book.

[Blake]

It was one of the four books they advertised in the ad, so. The totalitarian novel Score. So I read it over Christmas, the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Only one I read, and it'll CS Lewis it will frighten you to death because it just shows that this effort. I mean, what is distinctive about Adolf Hitler? He's the first person to build a modern factory for the slaughter and processing of human beings and a transportation system to go with it. Nobody ever did that before. Why would he do that? He wanted to perfect the world according to his will. And you know, we know and Christians know. But read the classic books. They know, too, the pagan ones included. Heaven is not on this earth and if you try to make it so, you'll turn it into hell. So, yeah, that's what, that's what the fight is about. And it's a fundamental fight. It's like I've been saying this for years and I believe it right now. The great crises in American history are the Revolutionary War won by the skin of our teeth, and the Civil War won by the skin of our teeth and this one. And we don't know how it's going to come out. But the reason I think that is because the Declaration of Independence presents a view of nature that is universal and eternal and says that we have our rights under that never rightly to be taken away. And that's a fixity. Right. And it gives rise to a Constitution. Those are the two things we're arguing about today. And those are characteristic two things we argue about in every fundamental controversy.

[Andrew Torba]

So you're juxtaposing Hegel's dialectic with sort of a natural law creator. Right, right. And I love that because I think the Europeans are really into Hegel and the American way is really into the Rev. You know, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

[Nate Morris]

Aristotle.

[Andrew Torba]

Yes. And the Bible basically are having this collision of philosophies that underlies these geopolitical arguments. Tariffs, China, sexes. It's well said, doctor. I'm not surprised. But then we're going to talk more about it. We're going to go through the breaks with Dr. Larian. We'll be right back. We started in the break before the audience was. Was able to listen in. You said that you believed. And this is a short little segment here before. Welcome back, Rav. So I want to preface that because we could go on for. Oh, Rat, we do have rap. So we're going to skip that break anyways, which is great. You feared or at least proposed that one of the most logical outcomes was that Europe was going to go with China.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Torba]

We just set up this dichotomy between Hegel and the Declaration of Independence. Laws of nature and nature's God America is on one side of that philosophical argument, Europe seems to be on the other. Did that inform that thought or was it more of a surface level, their deindustrialization, their lack of military might? And what are the implications?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, China is a top down society. It's a heavily modified form of Marxism, you know, Marx, with Chinese characteristics. They've always said what it is is despotism. And that means the party decides and people obey. They're very clever at it. They've liberated it enough so they can grow and produce. And they, you know, they talk about education. What you learn in Chinese schools, first of all, you learn a lot. They're very competitive. But the second thing you learn is the Chinese people have been afflicted by the West. We're the great victim people. And so they grow up thinking that a little bit like the way children learned in Germany for a long time in Europe. And the people seem a little too ready to put up with a lot out of their government. But on the other hand, tens of millions of them have been killed by the government. And so they got reason and they make a pretty good living these days, better than they used to. So that's China and it's thriving. Well, what is the European Union? Is it real accountability of the government to the people? They have enormous powers, but people are elected from all those many countries to run a parliament. And people don't go and vote in those elections because they don't really feel part of it. And so, I mean, there's a guy named Daniel Hannan who was a very good member of the European Parliament and Nigel Farage was a member for a while too. And just read them, read their speeches there about how this is not really a sensible sense, a system of accountability to the people. And remember, there isn't a people, there are many peoples and they don't speak the same language. And so it's this bureaucratic state with this tissue of legislature to control it that doesn't really control it. And so what's not to like about China to that bunch of people? And I've thought that for years and you know, my wife is English and we follow the English news and grieve over it a lot lately.

[Peter Schweitzer]

And.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, they're going to censor the Internet and they're going to, you.

[Andrew Torba]

Know, they're doing all that stuff, replacement immigration. Yeah, Islamization.

[Charlie Kirk]

And they don't. And I think they think they can manage all that, but they, they don't. China seems to me highly competent in important ways. I mean they got a bigger navy than we got and they're building ships much faster. And see, part of. Part of this thing about Europe flirting with them is China in some direct measures of power is waxing. We don't know how good their military is. It hasn't been tested, but it's big and only a fool would not take it seriously. And. And so, yeah, I had a Hungarian minister, I won't say his name. Good guy, very good guy. And he's Hungary, you know, has got a good government, by my lights, Orban. And he was in Orban's cabinet at the time, and he gave a talk about how the European Union was dangerous to Hungary and to the world. And it seemed true to me, the talk. And then I'm talking to him later and I said, I understand that you have welcomed the belt and road of China into Hungary. He said, oh, yeah, we had to. And I said, why? He said, poland has it and won't share, and we're an elected government and we need prosperity and we got to trade. And who is around for us to trade with? There's the European Union, of which we're part and which fines us a million dollars a week, I think, or a day for our immigration policies. And there's Russia. We have a lot of experience with Russia. We don't really trust them. So China is this third more distant party. And this guy who's got no sympathy whatsoever with communism, thinks it's an achievement to get the belt and road in Hungary as it is in Poland. Well, it'll be in France. France has not had any growth to speak of forever. And it's a very. And, you know, the more conservative parties, which are all called alt right, are waxing in France. But are the people really going to get to choose? That's a question. So, yeah, it's a very dangerous picture. And, you know, back at home.

[Peter Schweitzer]

There.

[Charlie Kirk]

Might be some limit to the energy of Donald Trump, but we haven't found it yet. And then on the other hand, he's got three years and typically presidents are weaker after the midterms. Although he's a freak of freak and a force of nature, he might not be. Never know what he's going to do. And, you know, it could be that, you know, and what the hope is and what the expectation is, by the way, in the official press is he's peaking right now and it'll be downhill from here. And who can do what he did once we get rid of him, we'll be in control again. That's their Thinking they're confident and that this. This thing in Virginia is not surprising. They're going to make hay while the sun shines, and they expect it to keep shining. And. Yeah, and that means. That what that means. But see, I don't. You know, it's a very good idea to study Winston Churchill because you'll be quick to see that it might be a desperate situation and quick to see that's why we're here. Let's do something about it.

[Blake]

And unfortunately, maybe quick to see that even the most heroic figure. There's no permanent wins and there's no permanent defeats. So Winston Churchill did save Britain, but we have to cover Britain all the time now. And there's a new problem where I don't think. I don't think Churchill would have ever thought that Islam taking over Britain was a likely future for his country. Yet there are people who fought in that war who now have to see that happening.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, my wife's father was. He left Dunkirk beach last day. Anybody did. Then he was in Singapore and he was captured by the Japanese and became a POW of the Japanese. He was a camp commander.

[Andrew Torba]

That's a brutal.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, his father before him fought in all the battles of the Somme in the First World War. Those are people who sacrificed. Right. But here's a. Here's something for us all to know. You know, like, Charlie Kirk believed in babies, and I do, too. Gotta have some babies. Gotta get married and have some babies. Because now you're meeting the test of life, right? Fully. Because everybody has to meet the test of making a living trying to do. Trying to live well. But then now you got to do it with some other people. But here's the lesson that comes from that. We have to do what we can do to prepare the world for the next generation. But we don't get to live for them. You see, like the institutions of America, they are made. Here's a great story. Thomas Jefferson, who was a very great man and also once in a while, kind of a dingbat, he writes a letter to James Madison, his friend, close colleague, and says Madison is getting ready to help write the Constitution of the. What became the Constitution of the United States. And Jefferson writes and says that every contract and every law, including this constitution you're writing, should sunset every human generation every 33 years. The Earth belongs to the living, he says. And Madison writes him back and says, you know, it actually is a specific function of the Constitution to set up an institution that prevails across generations. And Jefferson did what he commonly did. He wrote back and said, yeah, I guess you're right, you know, but the truth is we should first of all, we need to preserve our institutions. They're the longest surviving written constitution in all of human history, and it has worked. We have to restore it. And the list of things to do is simple. First of all, the word decentralized is crucial to everything that needs to be done to the government. We need to return power as close to the people as possible. And then the federal government should be in supreme control of things that are simply national. Congress should start making the laws again. Now, they make about 10 or 15% of them, and the rest are made.

[Andrew Torba]

In a bureaucracy or by executive order.

[Blake]

That's really, I think, the big secret with when President Trump demands getting rid of the filibuster, it's that it's practically a call to say, make Congress real again.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, because it's so fake.

[Blake]

Because they can't pass anything with 60.

[Charlie Kirk]

Votes and see the filibuster. I actually support the filibuster. Just return to what it in fact is. What it was was an argument was it was a policy in the Senate only that if you've got something pertinent to say, we don't vote till everybody said it. That means you got to be on the floor talking and it's got to be pertinent.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah. We got to take a quick break. Rav's going to take this commercial break. A few more minutes here with Dr. Larry Arn for streaming podcast. We'll be right back. Foreign.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back. Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break. We appreciate you being here with us. We are preparing for the latest White House press briefing. We are standing by it for it. Excuse me. To get underway at any minute. Here's a live look at the room. You can see the reporters are already in place, simply waiting for White House Press Press Secretary Caroline Levitt to enter the room and to speak. We're also hearing that President Trump is going to be in attendance today and he will offer remarks at this White House press briefing. That's because today marks one year in office for the current president in his new term. So we, of course, will take you there live the moment the president takes the podium. The moment Caroline Levitt takes the podium. It is a busy day, though, for President Trump as he also is heading to Davos, Switzerland, later tonight in advance of his speech there tomorrow at the world economic forum. U.S. treasury Secretary Scott Bessen is already on the ground in Davos and offered up these remarks earlier today Today marks.

[Peter Schweitzer]

One year since President Trump's historic return to office. The United states enters its 250th year from a position of great economic strength. We are by all measures the strongest place for capital in the world.

[Nate Morris]

President Trump has led a 12 month.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Transformation of the US economy. Our capital markets are unmatched in their depth and breadth. Economic growth reached approximately 4% in the.

[Nate Morris]

President'S first two full quarters in office.

[Peter Schweitzer]

And exceeded 5% in the fourth quarter.

[Nate Morris]

And the Atlanta GDP Fed now is showing 5.3%.

[Terrence Bates]

Other speakers who have taken the podium in Davos this afternoon include Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, French President Emmanuel Macron, as well as the prime minister and Minister of Foreign affairs of Qatar. European Commission President Ursa von der Leyen and China's vice premier spoke earlier today. While the speaker's list is a once again a who's who of world political and business leaders, President Trump, arguably the most anticipated speaker as the world awaits to hear exactly what he has to say. We, of course, will have live coverage from Davos, Switzerland throughout the day here on Real America's Voice and will also carry his remarks tomorrow morning here on Real America's Voice. In the meantime, as I said earlier, we're waiting for the president to arrive in the White House press briefing room. A press briefing is set to get underway here in short order. The moment it happens. Stay tuned to RAV for live coverage.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show where truth lives.

[Andrew Torba]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. That was an absolute treat with Dr. Larry Arn. So if you missed any of it, we'll be publishing that on the podcast asap. So please do check that out. I'm still kind of my mind is still percolating, thinking through some of the insights that Dr. Arn shared with us. We're about to bring on Peter Schweitzer in his new book, the Invisible Coup, which takes us back to China. Some immigration topics and all that. But first I'm going to tell you about our friends over at Good Ranchers. Good Ranchers. Obviously, we're turning 250 as a nation this year and Good Ranchers is all about America, the people that built it, the farmers, the ranchers, the packagers, the people that help you in the call center. Everything at good ranchers is 100% America based. We've been with them for years and it's been a true pleasure to watch their company grow. Ben and Corly Spell are great Christians, great Americans, great patriots. They love this country. They love ranchers. So what is Good Ranchers? They send you a box every however, however often you want to get it. But I get one every month and it's packed with American made beef and chicken, actually. And we get the chicken nuggets, the only seed oil chicken nuggets there is. So they only source their cuts from American farms and ranches. The seal on every box, entire packaging, fulfillment, customer support, team, everything. Okay, so go to goodranchers.com and you will. If you subscribe, you can save up to 500 a year on your meat. You'll also get an additional $25 off your first order if you use the promo code Charlie. So that's goodranchers.com goodranchers.com amazing, amazing people. Good ranchers. The best meat out there. I'm not even kidding. They've gotten better and better and better every year and they've just grown. And so they have better purchasing power. So go to goodranchers.com please. Check them out. All right. I'm so excited. We thought we were gonna do this yesterday, but now we're doing it today. And that's Peter Schweitzer. His new book, the Invisible Coup. Peter, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to have you and congratulations on your new book.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Oh, great, thank you. It's great to be with you guys. And I mean, I don't know, you're putting me in a bind here following Larry Arn. That's gonna be really hard to.

[Andrew Torba]

I tried to have you on yesterday. We had some sort of scheduling faux pas. I thought it was. Anyway, it doesn't matter. We're glad to have you here. You are one of the great researchers. You're so good at getting a thread, pulling on it and then it reveals this huge scandalous truth. I saw that it went viral on the Internet over the weekend. Breitbart had a big piece on it and, you know, you highlighted the fact that we have potentially a million million.5 CCP citizens. So Chinese citizens that are gonna be eligible to vote in 20, 28, 2030 and beyond. Tell us about this.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Yeah, you know, we've been having this necessary conversation about immigration policy in America. But we really look at it primarily through the lens of the economy, crime on our streets, et cetera. And that's very, very important. This book is about the weaponization of migration and how foreign governments and adversaries have weaponized our immigration system. And what you're referring to is in the case of China, how they are using so called birthright citizenship and they've created a model on an industrial scale to, I argue, subvert the country. So what do I mean? Well, birthright citizenship, of course, is the idea that if you are born in the United States, you get automatic citizenship. Doesn't matter if your parents walked across the border. If your parents were here on vacation, you give birth here, you're an American citizen. Our federal government has absolutely no idea how many people do this every year, because when you get a birth certificate in the United States, they don't ask for the citizenship of the parents. They don't have any of that information. So we literally have no clue how much this has been happening in the country. What I point out is that the Chinese do. The Chinese have actually tracked and have pretty strong estimates on how many Chinese nationals have done this in the United States. And the number, at least to me, is absolutely shocking. The Chinese government says over the last 13 years, roughly 100,000 Chinese nationals have done this a year over the course of the last 13 years. So you're talking about a million, more than a million people. So what does that mean? That means that you have a million people in China that were born here, their parents flew here for the purposes of giving birth. The child is born here, they're given citizenship, they fly them back to China, where they are raised in CCP schools. They get government propaganda. Their parents are primarily from the Chinese elite. But when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote, they're going to be able to donate to political campaigns, they're going to be able to get government jobs. It's a massive, massive national security problem. And the Chinese government has encouraged this and pushed it. They've run articles in the People's Daily, which is their major newspaper, telling members of the Chinese elite, you can do this, you have a right to do this. And we are completely oblivious that this is going on.

[Blake]

Peter so they've run these ads, yeah, these advertisements basically in the People's Daily about it. Do we see any evidence of them building up any plan, for example, to encourage them to using this in a strategic way, like, for example, deploying these Chinese citizens in specific states to swing specific elections? Or are they just. Are they sort of passively encouraging this, or are they seeing the direct uses of individual of these voter blobs in specific elections?

[Peter Schweitzer]

No, that's a great question. So they've run ads in People's Daily, but the People Daily has also run newspaper articles. I quote from them in the Invisible Coup, where the Chinese government says, you have a right to do this. We encourage you to do this. You also have this large industry that the Chinese government allows to operate whereby there are agencies primarily in California that say to CCP officials, pay us $50,000. We'll teach you how to get into the United States. We will set you up at a nice place to stay, we'll set up a hospital, your child will be born. We make sure that they get the citizenship and then we'll arrange for you to fly back. So it's a massive industry. They did this for a while in Hong Kong in the early 2000s. Hong Kong, obviously smaller than the United States. The government of Hong Kong at that time was more independent. They stopped it. They realized what was going on and they stopped it and said no more birthright citizenship from mainland China. So the wave of this is going to start hitting in 2028, 2030. So that's when we're first going to see this instituted. And there's another side of this, guys. There's the Chinese nationals that fly here, give birth and get citizenship that way. There's the added problem, and this really sounds like out of science fiction, but it's true, involving surrogacy. And these are Chinese nationals, men who donate their sperm, they find a carrier, as they call it, a woman in the United States to conceive the child, carry the child, then that child is taken back to China where again, they've got U.S. citizenship. In this case, they're born to an American mother, but they are raised by the father and or parents back in China. Again, we have no idea how often this takes place. What we do know is based on our research, that in Southern California alone there are 107 Chinese owned surrogacy companies that are doing this. So you can imagine the scale that we might be dealing with here.

[Blake]

In fact, I want to repeat one of these facts because I think people might underestimate how this is. There's Shu Bo is one of these Chinese billionaires. He is, I think it's a mobile gaming company that he created. He is reported to have more than 100 biological children born through these surrogates. According to the Wall. This is the Wall Street Journal. He supposedly seeks to have one at least 50 high quality sons who can take over businesses, his businesses and I guess American businesses as well. There's, there's a certain kind of insane maximalism you can see with some of these Chinese billionaires. Dozens, hundreds of kids.

[Andrew Torba]

It's interesting too, Peter, because I was just following somebody who, who researches fertility rates and actually China's fertility rate is collapsing, which is a fascinating parallel story that's going on here. This, this particular researcher puts it at about 0.93 per couple, which is far, far below replacement level. Obviously, they're having as many children in China as they were in 1776. That was sort of the big headline from. So you gotta go back hundreds of years to get this level of fertility which is collapsing. It's collapsing around the world, but especially in China. So it's interesting that simultaneous with that, you have this move of birth tourism to create US Citizen Chinese CCP trained US Citizens. So it's just. I don't know what to make of that exactly, but it is a fascinating detail.

[Peter Schweitzer]

No, that's a great, great point. And it relates to the decision of the Chinese government made to have this One China policy, which they finally lifted just about 10 years ago. It was enacted in 1980, and it basically said they were fearful of overpopulation. So they told people in China, you can only have one China because we need to limit population growth in China. Well, if you tell a largely rural peasant community, they can only have one child. They want to have a boy. They want a strong boy who can do all the farm work. So what has happened in China is you have this massive demographic disparity where you have literally several hundred million men between the age of, you know, say 30 and 45 that have no prospects of finding a Chinese woman because they were all aborted with this one child policy. So the surrogacy program and the. The program of, you know, finding an American carrier, a woman to carry your child, get citizenship for them, bring them back to China, and then, by the way, when your child, who's a US citizen turns 18, they can get you as the parent, permanent right resident status. So there's that added benefit. But the bottom line is this is a direct consequences of the policies that they carried out with the One China policy. And what's troubling is what do you do with a situation like a country like China that is having these demographic problems, which may have economic problems in the future, that is creating this large reservoir of people living in their own country who can vote in American elections that could be subject to coercion, threats, et cetera? It's an enormous problem that we have not even paid attention to. That's one of the reasons I wrote the book.

[Andrew Torba]

Well, you know, it kind of begs the question because we're going to be doing oral arguments on the birthright citizenship case in front of the Supreme Court. That's going to be happening in it sounds like spring. So April timeframe and then you probably a decision in summer. But then if you know that the system is being rigged, it's being manipulated by Chinese birth tourists or maybe other countries are involved. I'm certain that's true. You know, you think of the anchor baby phenomenon is usually a Latin American thing. But listen, if you know that the system is being rigged, then you should be able to block the naturalization of some of these people or reverse it. Denaturalize and deport. Whether or not we have the political will or the political fortitude to do those things, it certainly seems like a logical next step. So Peter, you've written about China and the corruption of our elite, the elite capture before in our next segment. We're just coming up to a break here, but in our next segment, Peter, I want to talk about what we're seeing out of Davos today. So you're seeing Ursula von von der Leyen. She's talking about the creation of a new Europe, a new economic world order. Macron is inviting Chinese money and direct investment into France. Got to talk about what that means because I think we're seeing tectonic shifts that will have implications for decades and centuries to come. Perhaps. We'll be right back.

[Peter Schweitzer]

All right.

[Andrew Torba]

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[Peter Schweitzer]

2981971 was the year of the so called Nixon shock and the decision to delink the US dollar from gold.

[Andrew Torba]

In an instant.

[Peter Schweitzer]

The foundations of the Bretton woods system and the entire global economic order set up after the war effectively collapsed. But it also had two major effects. It inadvertently created the conditions for what would become a truly global order. The seismic change we are going through today is an opportunity, in fact a necessity to build a new form of Europe.

[Andrew Torba]

It kind of got cut off there but a new form of Europe. And then you have Macron welcoming Chinese direct investment. We had Dr. Larry Arne on before you and he said he's long predicted that Europe would, would run to China the second that we called the bill do on some of their freeloading. What is your warrant? You've studied China and the way that they do institutional capture, the way they use economic warfare to insinuate themselves whether that be into mineral deposits and rare earth minerals, mines, ports. What is your warning or your note to Europe as they consider as they're flirting with the CCP here?

[Peter Schweitzer]

Well I think in my mind the key word is flirting. They may go down this path but I think it's going to be an enormous mistake because they're going to find if they don't like Donald Trump needling them about not carrying their weight, wait until Xi Jinping or a Chinese leader is mad to them about some trade policy or some issue that they're carrying out. Or there are too many vocal anti China protests taking place in Berlin and China wants them to halt. But what you're seeing is this global battle taking place. A lot of the things that Donald Trump is doing on the global stage are actually connected to the, to the China threat. He recognizes, for example, that the fentanyl crisis in the United States is primarily driven by China, not by the Mexican drug cartels. As I laid out in a previous book, the Mexican drug cartels are really the junior partners here because at every stage in the fentanyl trail, from the precursor chemicals to when it's sold on our streets to when the money is laundered by the drug cartels that all runs through China. Trump recognizes that. He recognized the importance that Venezuela represented as a outpost for China to operate in Latin America, and how Venezuela was pressuring other countries, for example, like Mexico, to fall further into the Chinese orbit. So I think this battle is taking place. The good news is China is a massive threat. They do believe they are already at war with us. They call it disintegration warfare. And they're prepared to do a whole host of things short of a shooting war to achieve their objectives. But the future is with the United States. They have a massive demographic problem. They have made this sort of market Leninism system work where they have kind of free markets, but it's dictated and controlled by the government. But that is not going to work in the era of technological innovation in areas like I, I'm very confident if we adopt a program that allows us to work effectively in this area, we're going to kick their ass, and they know that. So they have got to come up with partnerships and alliances to try to compete with the United States, Europe, I think right now is, is trying to signal that they want to stand up to Trump on Greenland and on some of these other issues. But I'm pretty confident that there will be an agreement struck and China will not make the gains that they're hoping to make. They're not a good partner, really, for anybody. Anybody that partners with China is end up going to end up with economic disparity, political manipulation, and attempted control. It's not the kind of bargain that any country wants, wants to make, as far as I'm concerned.

[Andrew Torba]

Yeah, you're making a deal with the devil. And, you know, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. I think that's a good example of it. You know what's an interesting piece of this, Peter? I was reading that as Trump and the Trump administration has been shutting down, some of these fentanyl flows into the, into the interior of the United States. That precursor product, and that product in general, has to find another place to go. And there's now early indications that a lot of that fentanyl is starting to flow into markets in Europe. And so, you know, Europe's going to be confronting the same fentanyl crisis that we've been confronting as we shut it down here. It's going to find a home, it's going to find a market. And just because Trump's on China's rear on that to get them to stop doesn't mean they're going to stop completely. So I don't know if you have any intel on that. One minute left. Peter Schweitzer.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Yeah, no, you're exactly right. Look, the bottom line, what people have to understand, is Xi Jinping, the president of China, he cut his political teeth. His movement to the national political stage was in Fujian province, where he was the political leader. Fujian province is ground zero for Chinese organized crime. He and his family and other CCP leaders have deep ties to Chinese organized crime. These are the criminal networks that introduced fentanyl to the drug cartels and said, we can boost your profits 30 times, move away from cocaine and start delivering this stuff. And you are exactly right. They will shift to other venues if they can't sell it in the United States, because this is part of the way that the CCP operates, this alliance they have with Chinese organizations.

[Andrew Torba]

And they want to. They want to destroy the west in general. They want to. They want to destabilize us. They're going to poison us and get us addicted to fentanyl if they can. The Invisible Couple. Peter Schweitzer. Great work, my friend. That was phenomenal. Thank you so much. Congratulations.

[Peter Schweitzer]

Thanks for having me.

[Andrew Torba]

We'll see you tomorrow.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Torba]

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