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Alex Marlowe
This is an I Heart podcast.
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Jason Rant
Guaranteed human.
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Charlie Kirk
The Charlie Kirk show starts now. It seems to be some smoke is rising. I don't know if these are smoke bombs.
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Jason Rant
It was peaceful when we began to.
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Charlie Kirk
Talk and we noted that rhetoric really matters. Now it's just, it's insulting to hear this Governor, make it seem like, you.
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Jason Rant
Know, this is the wild, wild west.
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Alex Marlowe
And this is what they want to be doing.
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Chip Roy
This is not what they want to be doing.
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Jennifer Welch
They are literally enforcing the law. My piece of advice to anyone in Minneapolis, and frankly, anywhere in the country, let the law enforcement do their jobs. I would like to address the chaotic scenes in Minnesota over the weekend. Nobody in the White House, including President Trump, wants to see people getting hurt or killed in America's streets. This includes Renee Good, Alex Predd, the brave men and women of federal law enforcement, and the many Americans who have been victimized at the hands of illegal alien criminals. But let's be clear about the circumstances which led to that moment on Saturday. This tragedy occurred as a result of a deliberate and hostile resistance by Democrat leaders in Minnesota. Governor Waltz and Mayor Fry have shamefully blocked local and state police from cooperating with ice, actively inhibiting efforts to arrest violent criminals. They have also used their platforms to encourage left wing agitators to stalk, record, confront and obstruct federal officers who were just trying to lawfully perform their duties.
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Chip Roy
Good afternoon to Americans who are watching this right now. I've got a question for all of you. What side do you want to be on? The side of an all powerful federal government that can kill, injure, menace and kidnap its citizens off the streets? Or on the side of a nurse at the VA hospital who died bearing witness to such government? Or the side of a mother whose last words were, I'm not, not mad at you. The side of tens of thousands of peaceful citizens? Stand with Minneapolis. Stand up for America. Recognize that your children will ask you what side you were on. Your grandchildren will ask you what you did to act to prevent this from happening again. What did you do to protect your city? What did you do to protect your nation? Minnesotans, you've won the hearts and minds of people across this country and you've done it through your peaceful defense of your neighbors and the Constitution. But this fight still goes on amid the hysteria.
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Jennifer Welch
We must remember how we got here to this moment today and what this Democrat opposition is about. Former President Joe Biden and the Democrats opened America's borders for four years, inviting tens of millions of illegal aliens from all over the world to flood into our country. Among them, violent criminals who terrorized American communities and have inflicted devastating, permanent pain and harm on law abiding Americans and their families. Yet we never saw outrage from Democrats or their allies in the liberal media over these horrifying crimes against US Citizens. The pain of American angel families was ignored and dismissed because it undermined mind, the Democrat narrative.
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Chip Roy
This is not a partisan issue. This is an American issue. This administration and everyone involved in this operation should be reflecting. They should be reflecting right now and asking themselves, what exactly are you accomplishing? If the goal was to achieve peace and safety, this is doing exactly the opposite. If the goal was to achieve calm and prosperity, this is doing exactly the opposite. You're allowed to decide at any point that you're not with us anymore. I ask you not to stand by, idly. Speak out, share what you're seeing, urge others to put politics aside. We're no longer having a political debate. We're having a moral debate.
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Jennifer Welch
President Trump promised accountability by securing the border, deporting every illegal alien who has committed crimes, especially and most importantly, violent crimes. Nearly 80 million Americans voted for him to deliver on that very promise. And he is. As the duly elected president, the president is fulfilling the will of the people by arresting and removing these threats from our country. In cities from Los Angeles to New York and yes, Minneapolis.
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Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk. Every day is a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with.
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Terrence Bates
The will to deceive.
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Charlie Kirk
Fear not. You found the place for truth.
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Chip Roy
The voice of a generation that still.
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Charlie Kirk
Has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go.
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Chip Roy
All right.
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Charlie Kirk
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It is January 27, 2026. We are here in the Phoenix studio. Myself, Andrew colvett@the bitcoin.com studio. You're one place to buy, sell and trade bitcoin. Check them out today. Glad to have them back. Blake, we are in Phoenix today. Welcome, welcome lots to get to the.
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Blake
Bitcoin.com city of Phoenix, the Bitcoin.com city.
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Charlie Kirk
We love those guys, honestly. Great, great people. So the big news of the day is this Bavino story. We got to get into it. So Blake, why don't you set up the backdrop for this and then we'll get into what we know. We've been calling people trying to get the insights scoop.
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Blake
Well, so Bevino is the. He's kind of been the point man for a lot of the drama that's been unfolding with ICE in Minnesota. It's Almost. It's almost worth reminding people the full arc of how we got here, which is. Yes, last fall. Okay, the full, full arc of how we got here.
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Charlie Kirk
How far back do we Want to go?
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Blake
1964, during the last glacial maximum, the glacier has created a bunch of lakes in Minnesota, thus making it a pleasant place for people to live. And so a bunch. And it resembled Finland and Sweden. And so a bunch of Finns and Swedes moved to Minnesota and they made a great state. And it was very pleasant, but it was kind of progressive. It was a little left wing and they have a do gooder impulse to them.
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Charlie Kirk
And a bunch of Somalis moved there.
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Blake
A lot of people moved there, including, yes, many Somalis. They built a big welfare state that has started to go a little bit awry, much like the one in Sweden. And so we had. It was not really a coincidence that George Floyd unfolded in Minneapolis. That would not have unfolded the way it did if it had happened in Atlanta, in Texas, in other states, kind of what had to happen in Minnesota. And since then, we've been repeatedly going back there. So that's a little setup. Anyway, this past fall, we had that drama with people notice the Somali fraud stuff, which has been going on for years and in fact been getting prosecuted and covered for years.
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Charlie Kirk
We were early on this, by the.
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Blake
Way, but, yeah, we weren't like feeding our future was going on in 21 and 22. And then you remember when we had Cremu on and he said, yeah, all these. There's a giant autism scam going on in Minnesota, all this fraud. And then lo and behold, that was blown up. So we had, you know, Chris Ruffo was covering it, and then of course, Nick Shirley was covering it as well. Just the realization, oh, it caused this surge. Huge, huge surge of attention on it of what fraud is going on. And so then ice, which has been pursuing its immigration activities, they sort of seized on this. Oh, well, let's. Let's do a surge in Minnesota. It's a good symbol of how serious we are on finding fraudsters, finding criminals and deporting them. And so we have the surge there. And Bavino, as you said, is he's kind of the on the ground symbolic leader of this.
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Charlie Kirk
He's almost like the mascot of border patrol, which is distinct from ice, which is an important distinction. So, you know, typically Bavino would not be up in Minneapolis. Right. So he was brought there as a part of the surge to oversee it. He is this kind of folk hero among a lot of the border Patrol. We've got some images of Greg Books, which is quite. Cause he's a total patriot, by the way. Total patriot. But things have gone awry and there is infighting within some of the ranks of ICE Border Patrol, even. There's differing opinions at the administration. But here's what I can tell you, is that everybody's committed to the president's immigration agenda. That's what I have ascertained. I've been calling around, asking my sources up there. Everybody's committed to it. But there is a difference of tactics, of messaging, of presentation.
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Blake
Yeah. And it's just funny how symbolic it is because I believe he's commander of the Border Patrol. And so it is a little funny that he was there, but what he was is he had that bravado of, oh, we're here, we're tough. He's like parading around in public to show that, frankly, that he's not afraid of all the ICE people and. Or the anti ICE protesters, which is a big deal because people have openly fantasized about wanting this guy shot. They've openly fantasized. I think someone even put out a hit on him, I believe.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. His family is in hiding.
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Chip Roy
Yes.
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Charlie Kirk
Just.
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Blake
You're aware, this guy is a very brave man, and he. He put himself out there for the agenda. But he also, as a result, became symbolic of the difficulties that happened in Minneapolis, which, unfortunately, we've had two shootings. We've had a lot of chaos in the city, mostly driven by the left, of course.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, in the new one, Preddy is, I think, where we're getting a lot of this consternation because, listen, I will defend ICE all day long. As a matter of fact, I'm going to continue to because I think they're amazing heroes. But there are some ICE agents and Border Patrol that feel like we need a new approach. A re. We need to hit the reset button. In Minneapolis, you see Tom Homan, who's been on this show many times. We love Tom. I think it's a great. It's great move. Great. Mix it up. But Bavino has now. So there was some confusion yesterday, but Vivino gets relieved of duty. Did he get fired? Did he. Did he. Is he transferred? Transferred. So he's. And then his social media was shut down. He was mixing it up on social media with some lawmakers who were overreacting, by the way, again, I basically agree with everything Bevino was saying. He's absolutely right to have our ICE agents back, to have border patrols back. But some of the details I think were misplaced. I think some of the initial reaction was based on faulty information about the altercation with Preddy. And so there's movement happening. Right. But he's not been fired. And essentially what happened was Bovino was put on ice for a second. President Trump put on ice? Yeah, well, he was. Oh, put on ice. I didn't even mean to do that. President Trump says, this guy's a hero. He's a patriot. He's on the team. We're keeping him, keeping him on his post. And so he's on his post, but Homan's coming in. He's gonna shake things up. Why I like this. And I will tell you, Bovino's an actual operator, right. He's less of the policy wonk guy, less of the architect of it, but he is an absolute architect. He's a real tough guy. Bovina is a tough guy too, but Tom Homan, absolute field general. He's in the. He's now in the field meeting with people. And what we've seen, and I think. I think the Internet's got this all wrong. A lot of people were saying President Trump blinked. You know, he had this call with Fry. He had a call with Waltz. What they're doing is a huge, huge deal. We are now seeing Minneapolis PD rush in to defend federal law enforcement. That's a big change. That's a positive change. After the calls with the president. So we're seeing movement here. We're seeing a little give and take. I do not see anybody saying, we're not gonna arrest all the illegals. Nobody's saying that. You do see a little bit of a worse first messaging. Now, as long as that's just the messaging, I'm okay with it. And Blake, before we came in to the show today, you were making, I thought, a really amazing point. And sometimes I wish you guys could see all of our pre show discussion, but you were basically saying, competence is what matters. It's not even okay, message how you're gonna message, but we need competence and we need to stop being as performative for social media. We just need to get the job done. Expound on that point, if you can.
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Blake
Well, so a lot of the drama that's been happening with ICE is, I think it's downstream of things the administration has done to show that they're serious and we want them to be serious. But what I think Bovino became a symbol of is like performative, Performative stuff. And some of this is stuff I've heard people complain about, like, for lack of A better term, some stuff they'll do. It's almost like it's intended to look a little cruel or callous. And I think it is important to be, like, dead serious. And it's obviously great when they're saying, oh, this person we arrested was a rapist, this person we arrested was a criminal. You definitely communicate that seriousness. But sometimes it does go a little bit beyond that, and that's what ends up, like, bothering a lot of people. Now, you can't allow those people to say, oh, so we're going to suspend deportations. Now we're going to pull ICE back. Oh, deportations are canceled. Because this made me feel bad. You don't give in on that point. But you do have to be smart about things. And I think the way Trump, President Trump is reacting to this is, is telling because I think some people really wanted to do a bigger pullback. I think some people probably wanted Greg Vivino to just be fired and cast aside, say this whole thing was bad. And I think the president's instincts are, no, we can swap out personnel, but if I start firing people or really signaling a pullback, it's going to show. It's going to set off this cascade of weakness.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
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Blake
Whereas with sending in Tom Holman. Tom Holman is a longtime professional. He's pretty good at the.
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Chip Roy
More.
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Blake
He's pretty good at disciplined messaging on this. And I think he can say, we'll have Homan running this operation and he can communicate what our agenda is, that we're focused, that, you know, most of the people we're getting are criminals, that he could sort of reset the tone of what's going on without pulling back too decisively.
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Charlie Kirk
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Blake
Because this is a thing it was bubbling up yesterday and we didn't really touch it too much. But we want to hit it harder today. It's been going back and forth. There's been. We're sort of seeing a reversal of form typically because for years it was. You'd have the right would sometimes bring guns to protests. And obviously there was a lot of hysterics. And the left is pushing hard for gun control. It's been a little different in Minnesota because some of these antifa people or just some of the anti ice people in general have been armed. And of course, Alex Preddy was armed as well. And that seems to have unfortunately caused his death. And so there's been a few lines that have been used. One of them was from FBI Director Cash Patel. He said this on Sunday. We'll use that as setup. Let's play clip 281.
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Alex Marlowe
As Christie said, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple, you don't have that right to break the law and incite violence.
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Blake
And similarly, DHS Secretary Christine, she also said on Saturday, I don't know of any peaceful protester who shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign. And she, there was some context to that, but she was basically, you know, that's, that's what gets, gets clipped. And we've seen that a few different times from a few different people. And first of all, we have to warn everyone that, no, you actually, you do have the right to bring a gun to a protest. Many conservatives have done that. And it would be a huge mistake if we suddenly reversed course on that because the left would be overjoyed to team up with us to say, oh, you actually can't bring guns to protests. And then we would permanently forfeit a Second Amendment right over a temporary issue. But we do have to make sure our messaging on this is good. It is, it is correct. And what some people have emailed us in, some people have commented, they've said, oh, well, you know, you're, for example, they've said you're legally required to tell an officer if you're armed or all of that. You're actually not. I looked this up in Minnesota. You're required to tell an officer if they ask. And that is the most common law in most of the US Is if a police officer asks whether you have a weapon, you have to tell them. But only in a few are you affirmatively required to just disclose this information if interacting with an officer. But what our messaging should instead, I think need to be is this is basically actually about gun safety, like responsible gun ownership. And if you take a firearms class, they're basically going to tell you, you can't have ego while carrying a gun. This is a dangerous item and you have to use it responsibly. You are carrying something that if you screw up, it can get you killed, it can get other people killed. And that's really the tragedy of what happened over the weekend in this ice shooting, is that he was getting in, he'd gone to a protest. And then not only that, ended up in a situation where bad stuff could happen. And if you're carrying a gun around a bunch of officers while people are blowing whistles and people are getting shoved, people are getting dragged around, everyone's getting screamed at. The officers themselves are worried someone is going to pull a gun and attack them. And you're carrying a gun and approaching them, it has to enter your thought. There are a lot of ways that this could go wrong.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And I just want to make one thing clear. I completely agree with every point you just made. Preddy was not at a protest. There was no protest when he was shot. The protest arrived after he was shot. He was involved in an organized direct action to impede federal law enforcement. So let's just get that very, very clear. Do I think this was a good shooting? Candidly, like, I, you know, probably not. Okay. But to Blake's point, when you take a firearm into public, you are taking a responsibility. I made this point yesterday. This is why if you have a firearm in your car and you get pulled over, you turn the car off, you take the keys, you put them on the dash, hands at 10 and 2 where they can see him. The officer approaches your window, and you say, officer, I have a firearm in this vehicle. And the officer goes. Instantly knows he's working with a responsible individual. Okay?
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Blake
When you don't do this because you're legally required to do this, you do this because you're not a moron and you don't want to die and you don't want anyone else.
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Charlie Kirk
You don't want the cop freaking out. People have to understand something. Law enforcement are involved in very risky operations. They are pulling over and abduct apprehending traffickers, drug traffickers, cartel members. These are. Some of these are homicide. Literally been convicted of homicide. These are high risk, high tension situations. And then they got all these yahoos going around them with bells and ring, blowing whistles, shouting profanity, spitting at them, throwing ice blocks at them. And they're supposed to do their job as if they're cool. Calm and collected, cool as a cucumber. You are expecting too much. So when you go there and you nitpick about the way that they do things. Listen, I got news for you. You put yourself into a position where you have to go arrest bad guys and see how well you. You perform under. Under fire. Okay? When the tension is high, bad things happen. The dumbest thing you can then do is be, like, pretty and go into that situation, make it even more difficult, throw up this image of Kyle Rittenhouse. These are the comparisons that are happening. They're saying, Kyle Rittenhouse carrying in public. There is this image of him approaching law enforcement. Hands up. Do you see that? He's approaching law enforcement. He's putting his hands where the police officers can see them saying, I'm not a threat to you officers. I need your help. I'm not a threat because he was coming in respect, because he was not their enemy. Pretty unfortunately, I wish he was alive today, but he unfortunately was coming at law enforcement and resisting them, trying to impede them, signaling that he was their enemy, that he was against their actions. And bad things happen. Okay, this is very, very simple. When you are a firearm owner and if you take that into public, the responsibility is on you to make sure law enforcement knows that you are not a threat to their lives. They want to go home to their families, too. Representative Chip Roy joins us next.
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Terrence Bates
Welcome back to this REAL america's VOICE news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Border czar Tom Homan is spending the day in Minneapolis, meeting with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. President Trump sent him there after his conversation with the governor and mayor on Monday. Holman is being dispatched to discuss ways to move the Twin Cities closer to restoring law and order despite clashes between state and local officials and the feds. President Trump says his ICE deployment in Minneapolis is cutting crime.
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Chip Roy
It's down in Minneapolis and it's down very much because of the fact that we're there. So we can't lose sight of the fact that we have to take murderers and drug lords and people from mental institutions that were dumped into our country through open borders of the Democrats of Biden. And we're doing a great job.
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Terrence Bates
Tom Holman is in Minneapolis following Saturday's deadly shooting there in the Twin Cities at the hands of an ICE officer. And while Homan is in Minnesota, President Trump preparing to rally voters in Iowa. He's set to speak in the Des Moines area this afternoon. The White House says today's trip will kick off weekly travel by the president ahead of the of this year's midterms, 47 will deliver remarks about energy, the economy and affordability during his visit to the Des Moines area. President Trump, no stranger to Iowa, by the way, he spent a good bit of time campaigning there and most recently visited the state in July to kick off the America 250 celebration. Now to the latest on the winter storm that has much of the country frozen like Elsa, Ana and Olaf. The deep freeze is forecast to continue throughout this week as the Northeast continues to dig out from underneath even more snow following Monday snowfall there. Meantime, at least 30 people have been reported dead as a result of the deadly cold temperatures and the conditions there. The rising death toll includes two people who were run over by snowplows in Massachusetts and a couple of teenagers who died in sledding accidents in Arkansas as well as Texas. We'll, of course, continue to monitor this for you you can also go to our sister station Weather Nation, log on to their website to get up to the moment updates on the weather in your community. That's going to do it for us here on Real America's Voice. We appreciate you being here with us.
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Charlie Kirk
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Chip Roy
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Charlie Kirk
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Chip Roy
Yeah, great to be on with you guys. Really appreciate it.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, thank you so much. So I saw this stat last night. I texted you about it. It's, it's remarkable. And I want you to kind of just like brass, tax it for us, for the audience and help, help everybody understand what's different about Texas versus Minnesota. Texas accounts for 25% approximately of the deportations under Trump and I would say about 0% of the drama Minnesota accounts for 2% of the deportations and currently about 100% of the drama. Explain it like I'm 5. Why are there. Why is there such a huge difference between Minnesota and Texas?
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Chip Roy
Well, it's a great question. I think it goes to the heart of what we're seeing unfold in Minneapolis. And I think the bigger picture that we all need to focus on. Which I'll get to in a minute. Right. Which is why we need to stay the course. But we'll get there in a second. To answer your question, the easy answer that the left will throw at us. Right. Is that, oh, well, you've got so many more people here who are here illegally. Well, that's true. But if you look at the data more closely, what you'll find is, is that even as a percentage of the total illegal population, Texas is still doing a far better job. And the reason why is because as a general rule, not perfectly, but as a general rule, our state leadership, our state law enforcement, and a good number of our local law enforcement are working in cooperation with ICE in what we'd call two 87G agreements, or generally. So that we're working to say, hey, we've got somebody locked up or we've got somebody who we suspect is here legally or under orders of removal by a judge, then we're going to work with ice, put them in the process and get them out. Minnesota, Minneapolis. Governor Waltz, the mayor of Minneapolis, and the people, the leadership there, they're resisting that. They're not working with ice. And by the way, they're trying to say they are, and they're saying, oh, well, anytime we've got somebody in our prison, we hand them over. Well, that's true for a very small subset of the people who have served their sentences in prison, but not the vast number of people who've been arrested or who are in local jails. So that's the difference. Texas can do better. To be clear, we should be even more aggressive. There are some jurisdictions who are not doing all they can do, but we're doing a lot better. And you don't see the drama, to use your words.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. This is a key point that you just made, Congressman, about this Tim Waltz statement. He's trying. So President Trump, Tim Waltz have a call yesterday. They both said it was productive. I will say we are now seeing Minneapolis Police Department actually work to block some of the police.
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Blake
They really were pulling the police back.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, they were. Exactly. So it's actually a admission of guilt that they were not protecting federal law enforcement. But at least they seem to be doing that right now. To be clear, I think there should be consequences for the previous inaction. But. So Tim Waltz says that he coordinates, but as you made an important note there, that's only a small subset. So Bill Melusion comes in, he says. This is very misleading. From Waltz. Yes, his prisons honor ICE detainers by transferring convicted criminal aliens. So not those with a detention request or those under investigation, but after they serve their sentence. But his city and county jails do not. I'm told that that is by far the Lion's share, maybe 80% of the criminal population, criminal legal population in the state of Minnesota. And that doesn't even get to the fact of. Of, you know, unraveling some of the Somali fraud. So explain that again in a Texas context, because you guys have crappy cities in Texas, too. No offense. You got Austin, you got Houston, Dallas. I cannot. I can only imagine those cities are not as cooperative as they should be. What powers does Governor Abbott, for example, have that. That Governor Tim Waltz doesn't? One final point here, Congressman. In Florida in 2022, they passed a law that gives Governor DeSantis complete authority to mandate cooperation with ICE. Is that the way it is in Texas?
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Chip Roy
Yeah. Well, the state legislature, they enacted reforms, I think, in the last two legislative sessions, particularly the last one, that gives far greater authority for the state government to be able to withhold funds and to be able to put pressure on the local jurisdictions if they refuse to follow the law and if they are sanctuary cities.
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Charlie Kirk
Right.
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Chip Roy
And so that is an important and key element that the state is taking into its leadership and something I think we need to go even further with, by the way. I think separate issue, not involved. I totally agree. Dealing with all of the criminals being let out on the streets by Soros funded das, the wide open borders, the ridiculousness of the Islamification of Texas. Epic City. We can have another podcast all about those things, but we've got to be more aggressive to say that in the state of Texas, we enforce the law that the state's capital should not be a lawless area that's a sanctuary city, nor should Dallas, nor should Houston. So we've done a lot of that. We can probably go even further, but I think we're in a place where we're in a better posture. Now, if I'm being real and objective, I would tell you that when I talk to boots on the ground, people who are expert on this, we are not doing as well as we could do to have full throated engagement with our 287 agreements, whether they're in big cities or even some of our smaller towns and counties. We need to be more active, more aggressive to make sure that that is happening so that we can remove people in the state of Texas. So better in Texas, much better than Minnesota. But that's not the bar. Right. The bar should be follow the law. And there are one and a half million people right now under orders of removal by judges. And people forget that. They go, oh, you're just rounding people up. Hold on. There are dangerous criminals that yes, we're rounding up, but 1.5 million people are under an order of removal by a judge. We should go exercise that. And that is what his ICE is doing. One final point. Sorry for the filibuster. Tom Homan is doing an excellent job. I trust Tom. Former head of ice, good friend. The president did a great thing by putting him on the ground and saying, tom, go get this done the right way. I think he will do it the right way.
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Charlie Kirk
So, Congressman, I agree. I think Tom's a national treasure and we need to wrap him in bubble wrap and keep him safe up there. I will just say, though, I mean, talking to people in the administration, there's a big divide right now both on messaging and tactics. Right. You see this? Even Sean Hannity, I just was, before we got on with you, I saw this clip from him saying we don't need to be rounding people up at Home Depots. In the admin, there is a two lines of thought. The worst first or get them all. Right, so what is your take on that? How do you think we should proceed from a messaging standpoint? I get that there is a flare up here, but if we don't squash it right now, come the summer months, it's going to be worse in Portland and Chicago, New York and Los Angeles. I think we need to move in with heavy force. But I'm open to being wrong. What is your take on that?
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Chip Roy
Well, let me answer that question after I make an observation first at a higher level. We can't win a war that we do not acknowledge exists.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
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Chip Roy
This is not an immigration issue like it was for our parents generation or anything else in the 80s or even 20 years ago in 2000 thousands. This is not some people in Mexico who want to come over and do some work and head back to Mexico peaceably. This is an organized effort to destroy America. Now, I want that to sit out there for a second because and I don't do this very often. I don't like the people who play the. I had this conversation with Charlie, and I did this thing with Charlie and whatever, and I get it. And Charlie spoke to so many people and affected so many people. But it is true. And on my phone, which I've never shared the screenshots, the last substantive conversation I had with Charlie was about the Islamification of the west, the Islamification of Texas, Islamification of America, and why that is the most important singular issue. And our side doesn't get it. So now take that issue. Put it here. Now take the fact that you've got Marxists who want to take our guns away. They want to take our, frankly, freedom of religion, where you saw what they did in St. Paul call. They don't care. You know, they want to totally undermine our Western civilization. You've got that going on. You've got all of the funding and all of the dollars flowing from foreign sources, George Soros, Arabella, that you got the Ren Collective putting criminals on the streets. There's all these things. If you did a big, you know, whiteboard, you can map it all out. It's organized to undermine our way of life. If you like Christmas, if you like safety and security, if you like English as a national language, if you like our core culture and are welcoming immigrants who assimilate, but you don't want to have immigrants come here to change our country. If you don't want to be Islamified, if you don't want to have your guns taken away, okay, if you don't want to have censorship about anything you think or say, if you want to live in a state like Europe, that's what's coming. Now, having said all that, if you don't recognize that's the war, then you go back to these tired old phrases Chamber of Commerce Republicans kick around where they go, oh, well, you know, we just got to make sure we're welcoming and we open the door and we do this. And, guys, this is a totally different battlescape. So to answer your specific question, I do think there's a little bit of tension going on. There are friends of mine in the administration, and I'm not going to go too far into it, because it's their job to go lead on this. But what I'm conveying to them and what I'm conveying publicly is know what time it is in America. Lead now. Kill this right now before it starts. And you can be like Tom, who is saying, I think you asked your question. Is it get rid of the first or get rid of everybody? That's my My phrasing, not yours. I would say you can do both. Let's target the worst actors. Yes, let's go get them. Go zero in on those folks. Let's go zero in the Focus with orders of removal. But when you find somebody here who's been here illegally for years and they've stole some solar Social Security numbers and they've undermined the system and destroyed the rule of law and they filled up our schools and our jails and birthright citizenship, that all has a cost, and we've got to manage that, and we've got to deal with it. You can't pick winners and losers. You've got to enforce the law. That's my two cents, man.
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Charlie Kirk
Amen. I'm. I think we can do both. We, we absolutely can do. Congressman, if you have five more minutes, I'd love to keep you, because I think this Islamification of the west, and you hit on it beautifully. This was one of Charlie's drumbeats in the, in the final months of his life. And we have to stay focused on it. I know Steve Bannon in the war room or just in Texas, calling out this very issue. I want to know what it's actually like on the ground. You know, Epic City was a huge, huge story. And I, I think we, I think people really don't fully understand or grasp the extent of that. But we're, you know, you see this huge in Minneapolis. I mean, this is a, this is what we've all lost our focus on. This was about Somali fraud. And now. And that's why the surge happened. That's why this big blow up in Minneapolis is even underway now. We'll be right back with Chip Roy. All right, we're back with Congressman Chip Roy out of Texas, who I, I believe is out on the road campaigning, which you don't. I don't even think about Chip Roy campaigning. I just, you know, just give him the job, guys. All right, this Congressman. This is Wall Street Journal opinion this morning. Time for ice to pause in Minneapolis. This is a real opinion section article by the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal. And my reaction to that is the 2015 GOP is apparently alive and well in certain corners of the, of the, I guess, conservative world. I don't even know if I consider that. Blake and I were talking before, and it's like, if you, if you are even on that side of the fence on this, you're basically liberal to me at this point. I mean, what you said, we've got to get them all.
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Blake
You either Want people deported or you don't.
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Charlie Kirk
You either want the rule of law.
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Blake
Every single time you're trying to do it and your reaction is, oh, we gotta stop this. Like you're just a lib.
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Charlie Kirk
You're kind of where I'm at, Congressman. You, you highlighted this issue in the last segment about the Islamification of Texas. I've seen many stats. I don't know which ones are true, but there's like, you know, 40 new mosques a month or something. You know, like there's all. And it is terrifying because if we lose Texas, and I would say Texas seems to me like it has an anemic conservatism. You know, it feels anemic. It's not as like strong and robust and full throated as you would. You would expect out of Texas. I'm not sure what that is, but it seems like there's a lot of rhinos in the ranks. Seems like there's a lot of turncoats in the ranks. Explain the truth about the Islamification of Texas. Epic City, the floor is yours.
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Chip Roy
Well, I appreciate it. I mean, first of all, yeah, Texas needs to be much more aggressive than we've been. We've not been as conservative a state as we should have been. Our legislature has been a huge problem. It's trending in the right direction, but not fast enough. We need to be much more aggressive on key issues including border security, immigration, the Islamication of Texas. The Islamification issue is very real. There are, just to give you some anecdotes, there are women that I talk to in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex who tell me that there are now increasingly no go zones in places you wouldn't think.
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Jason Rant
Think.
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Chip Roy
We're talking areas in and around Richardson and Plano and north of Dallas, we're talking about the Arlington area out there in the, you know, between Fort Worth and Dallas where the Cowboys and the Rangers play, right? And there are places where there are women who go. I don't feel safe going there because it's predominantly Muslim and the natural sort of things occur that make them uncomfortable. And so now you've got Epic City, which has garnered national attention. This, you know, multi hundred acre compound now rebranding as, quote, the Meadows. You've got an Islamic center in Houston which is a massive facility being built. But people don't talk about the other things. Right now north of Austin, I'm pointing because I'm just south of Austin now, on the north side of Austin, there's a new facility going in at the University of Texas. There is a significant building getting built to be an Islamic center on campus and west campus at the University of Texas. There are 300 mosques and 300 mosques in Texas. And there's more mosques getting built in Texas every single day than any other state in the union. I don't know the exact number to answer your question, but it's a lot more in Texas than any other state. This is a product of a business driven immigration policy. So let's go back to the Wall Street Journal. I've got friends in the Wall Street Journal that I work with on health care and other issues that we're in agreement on. But on the issue of immigration, they have been wrong over and over and over again. Alongside the Chamber of Commerce promoting H1B visas, promoting wide open borders promoting we need to import talent instead of standing for what we need to do to make and put America first. The President is right. That is at the core of his brand. The administration needs to stay the course, push back on these business interests and say, look, let's make sure we've got Americans trained to do the job. We don't need all these H1Bs that are frankly fronts for pumping people into our country or even leaving them overseas while they're able to work here in houses that aren't even filled. And by the way, birthright citizenship, we need to fix it. President Wright is right on this. We need to codify it. We need to stop this cottage industry where the Chinese have maybe allegedly up to a million people living in China who have American citizenship. I don't know if that's the right number or not. I don't like to pedal random numbers, but that's been pushed out there and alleged. So I've got my staff looking to find how many is it? It's absurd what we've done to sovereignty. It's absurd what we've done to our country. You either believe in American sovereignty or you don't. One final point. There are 51 million foreign born people in the United States. That's 16 and a half percent or so of the population. That's the highest percentage we've had in our history. That is greater than it was in 1920 after the massive immigration and we shut down for four, 40 years, four decades, maybe even five. That's why I introduced legislation to pause immigration. We need to have a real conversation about this. But my biggest messages to the administration. Stay the course. Keep doing it. Stand up for America and put America first, man.
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Charlie Kirk
Amen. Congressman, I got zero notes. I am absolutely in favor of an immigration moratorium, you can make it a net zero. I mean there's about two or three hundred thousand people that leave the country every year. If you want to replace them with good people, I'm open minded to that. But a net zero immigration moratorium or just shut it all the way up, I'd be good with that too. I mean, I was at Costco this weekend. I had to got new tires in my car. Good deal, right? So I go there and I'm. I'm wandering around. It did not feel like America to me. It didn't. It just didn't. It was. I mean, I hate to say that's not.
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Chip Roy
Guys, that's. Look, if I walk into Buc EE's office, i35 in Texas, white at quintessential Texas Place or Costco, like you say, it does not feel like America. Again, I want to be very clear here. We're talking about people are welcome to come here, but you have to assimilate. Right? And that's not what's happening here. People are coming here trying to replace America, trying to push Islamification on America, waving foreign countries flags. That is not the way this works. They need to be removed.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, and I mean there's whole neighborhoods. I was just talking to another friend in Texas, Congressman, and you know, they said they had to move out of their Dallas suburb because they felt uncomfortable there. And it was, it was basically been completely replaced by Indian immigrants in this instance. And listen, the H1B scam, I know the administration, that is a statute. You guys need to codify any changes in the H1B program. But they're slow walking it, I can tell you that. I mean there's. Now you're looking, if you're trying to get H1BS, I mean those things are delayed like a year and a half right now, two years. So I hope they keep pushing those things, kicking the can, but there's only so much they can do, right? You gotta follow the law at some point. So I hope that law changes last minute here. Congressman. And Chuck Schumer said he's going to, you know, he's threatening another government shutdown over DHS funding. What can you tell us from the House perspective? And do you think we're going to see a shutdown?
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Chip Roy
Well, they're certainly rattling about a shutdown. I don't think the administration wants a shutdown. Let's remember that if they don't fund Homeland Security, that means they're not going to fund the Department of War, they're not going to fund labor age. They're not going to fund transportation. That leaves the FAA unfunded. That leaves the TSA unfunded. Right. So there are gonna be a lot of issues. I think we should call their bluff. We, we worked a deal, by the way. It was a bill that I didn't love, but I voted for Homeland Security, so I could stand with ICE and Border Patrol, even though there are things in it I didn't like, like CISA and other stuff. But bottom line is the Freedom Caucus is sending a letter today. It'll go out in the next hour or two that is basically saying, guys, no, you're not going to send us a bill. You're not splitting off Homeland Security. We support the president. We support Tom Homan. We should stay the course. We trust them to get it done. Right. But at the end of the day, if you want to fix it, then we're going to, if you're going to block it, we're going to fix it by finding a way to fund things using reconciliation like we did last summer or, you know, finding a way to stop the fake filibuster, the six foot threshold force, the talking filibuster. I love that's our position, but we'll have to fight for it.
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Charlie Kirk
Hold the line, Congressman. Don't let him blink. We've got your back. We'll talk to you soon. Out to coming up.
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Terrence Bates
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is headed to Iowa right now. The White House says today's trip will kick off weekly travel by the president ahead of this year's midterms 47 set to deliver remarks about energy, the economy and affordability during his visit to the Des Moines, Iowa area. Our David Zier is on the ground already preparing for the president's arrival. He joins us live now with the very latest. So it looks like preparations are underway. The president expected to arrive there in the next several hours.
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David Zier
Yes. Good afternoon, Terrence. Trump departed the White House a little less than an hour ago, will be on the ground here coming to Clive, Iowa, just north of Des Moines. This is his first visit here since July of last year for the America to 50 kickoff. And this is part of a broader strategy. He'll be traveling about once a week in support of candidates for the midterms around the country. And Trump won here by 13 points in 2024, the highest ratio in over 50 years, about 52 years. And he'll present today the economy, no tax on tips, kick in overtime Social Security, child care credits expanded, and the Trump accounts with there'll be a forum later this week by the Treasury Department to discuss and instruct people how to use those accounts, by the way. But corn and ethanol is a big deal here in Iowa. Congresswoman Marionette Meeks along with Zunn, trying to get E15 approved 10 to 30 cents cheaper for the American consumer at the gas pump. But also the farmers here and the ethanol producers depend on that. So they're trying to get that reignited. And Congress here. And Zach Nunn is in the third District here and he said we gotta keep this momentum going here and pass his affordable housing bill. And he's gonna focus on campus housing affordability for students possibly who are getting a voucher through section 8 for college housing costs and the Rural Housing act, which will streamline USDA programs for construction and renovations and repairs, especially for low income people and seniors here. But these races are in contention. There's an open seat for the governor, open seat for the Senate, the first time in about 60 years that's happened with House Rep. Randy Feenstra here running for governor as Kim Reynolds is not running again for governor, and Representative Ashley HINSON Running for U.S. senate as a Republican in the open Joni Ernst seat. So Trump expected to be here in about two hours, an hour and a half or so, and a lot going on on the ground in Iowa, very important because they can only afford to lose two more nationwide without giving up their majority in the House. Terrence.
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Terrence Bates
All right, David Zier reporting for us on the ground there in Iowa as he prepares to hear from President Trump. President Trump is already en route to Iowa as we speak. And we, of course, will have live coverage of his remarks there in Iowa the moment it happens. In the meantime, President Trump, no stranger to Iowa, he of course, has been there many, many times before. The last time he was there was back in July. You may remember, he announced the America250 event there in Iowa. Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley also welcoming, excuse me, President Trump to that area with this message. In 2024, Iowans voted overwhelmingly to return President Trump to the White House to lower costs for families, to secure the border and to bring down crime. Since then, Republicans have been delivering on those promises, working alongside Trump. Congress stopped the largest tax increase in American history. Now in the Senate, I want you to know I'm going to continue working with the Trump administration to provide affordable options for Iowans. And while President Trump is shifting his focus to the economy and affordability today in Iowa, he also has an eye on what's happening in Minnesota. President Trump says that he and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz had a conversation on Monday. And to quote the president, we actually seem to be on a similar wavelength. 47 followed that call up with a subsequent conversation with Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. Now the cooler heads seem to be prevailing. President Trump is sending border czar Tom Homan to the Twin Cities. Homan is already on the ground there. That's a quick check of your home.
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Chip Roy
All right.
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Charlie Kirk
Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Hour two is underway. We are joined by Jason Rant, a Seattle survivor, longtime Seattle resident, and he's got a website, Seattle Red.com Seattle Red.com Jason, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you.
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Jason Rant
Good to see you. Thanks for having me.
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Charlie Kirk
You know, we were on a show last night together with Katie Pavlich and News Nation arguing about the virtues of sanctuary cities. We had the what is that guy's name? Chris Hahn, the aggressive progressives. I couldn't hear you half the time because he kept interrupting us. So I was like, jason, we have to have you back on the show. So explain to us what is going on in Seattle, then relate it to Minnesota. You have been around these communist front groups longer than just about anybody in the country. You see it up close and personal in the Pacific Northwest. How big is this movement? How militarized are they? How organized are they? Explain it for our audience, please. Jason Rance.
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Jason Rant
So it is very organized, but it's not nearly as large as it once was. And I was thinking about it this morning for a column I'm doing. I mean, go back to Black lives matter in 2020. And this was right at the start, really of the pandemic, before a lot of people came to their senses and they were terrified to go outside because we were told not. And yet there were millions of people nationwide who actually did in fact, take to the streets. And that was all based on a lie. Cut to what's been going on for the last few months. The organizing has arguably gotten even more favorable press coverage. There's still a lot of misinformation and just flat out lies happening. And yet we're not seeing the same number of people out on the ground. It's the same folks over and over and over again who are showing up. And sure, it's grown a little bit. There's no doubt about that. And not everyone who shows up to these protests are sort of that professional activist class. But the same level of organizing, the same level of strategy is at play. And it's this progressive protest industrial complex where you've got a bunch of folks, in this case either activists within the community who are part of the organization, or it's Democrat lawmakers, far left lawmakers, who are encouraging you in this case to interfere with ICE operations. Go out there, get in their faces, put your bodies on the line. That's a quote from some, some of these lawmakers and activists. And they end up creating a situation in which someone likes Alex Preddy ends up getting killed. Then they use that death to create more outrage. That then just creates that vicious circle to get more people to then go out and interfere with ICE and put their bodies on the line and then lead to this next confrontation that ends up taking someone's life. And it just makes folks a whole bunch of money. It gets people more follows on social and it gets them more favorable press coverage. And we see this happening over and over and over again. It's not gonna stop. But it's certainly not growing at the same level that the BLM movement grew. And that's obviously a good thing. Cuz it means at least some of the American voters, the average person who's looking at this, are saying, okay, we want sensible immigration reform, we want some semblance of immigration law being enforced. And they're not falling for the far left position that underlines everything that they're doing here. They against, on the radical left, all enforcement of immigration laws. That is a radical position that is not shared by the vast majority of this country. And I think that explains why we're not seeing this movement grow at the same level as we saw during the BLM movement.
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Blake
So Jason, you've seen this unfold over a pretty long period of time. In Seattle they've had antifa type stuff for ages. They had the explosion of homelessness there. It felt like Seattle was in really severe crisis about five years ago. I remember Seattle is dying and all of that. And it seems to me, obviously it's still a blue city, obviously it still has a lot of problems, but it does seem to have pulled back from the, you know, autonomous zone level crisis they were in. Are there any lessons from that for how the whole country might regard this national antifa as they what? How do people, how do you defeat this process that they enact on us to use the kind of weaponized weakness against the system?
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Jason Rant
Yeah, well, it's interesting because had we had this conversation a few months ago, my answer would have been a little bit more clear as it's going to be because unfortunately, the voters just took a giant step backwards, or took a mile backwards, because after all that nonsense with the autonomous zone, the voters put in place someone who is at least perceived to be a little bit more moderate. Didn't view our last mayor as moderate, but he was booted out of office for a socialist, an open socialist, who has already instituted a bunch of plans that's sending us back in the wrong direction. So I don't know if Seattle voters learned their lesson. Now, if you look back and you're just kind of dweeby like me, and you look at the, the general, I don't know, algorithm of voters here is the Seattle base of radicals. They push us very, very, very far to the left, left. Then the voters say, okay, let's dial it back a notch. Then you see some results. But then they go and say, okay, well, now that we saw some of course correction, let's go back in the crazy direction. And so that's where we're at right now. We're headed back in that crazy direction. And you know, this whole idea of the, the protesters and how organized they are, like yesterday there was yet another march in downtown Seattle, you know, ruining all the traffic again. And they were doing this because they wanted to speak in solidarity with what's going on in Minneapolis. Again, it's the same people who show up, up every single time who are engaged in this and they're allowed to do whatever it is they want to do because they're doing it for some quote unquote, righteous position. And that's how it's going to unfold. I imagine there's going to be another one today and another one tomorrow, and it's going to be the same people showing up. So I don't know if we've actually truly learned a lesson because we never seem to learn our lesson for more than four years at a time.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And you're talk Katie Wilson, she's a real peach, by the way. And you guys are going to have a massive problem with Somali fraud rings as well in the state of Washington. They are rampant there. Jonathan Cho, who's with TPC Frontlines, has been doing investigations on that. It's. This is an emerging story that you guys are going to have to confront. I'm worried that if we don't squash this right now, Jason, with a massive show of force, which seems like we're going in the opposite direction, we're going to have an even tougher problem in cities like Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago, come the spring and summer months when the weather's better. So are you worried about seeing that as well? I mean, I mean, because you could let this stuff peter out and then it flares up again. Peter out, flares up again. Or you could squash it definitively. And I don't like seeing guys like Bovino be left out on, you know, to take, you know, take the rap for everybody here. I want to see us squash this.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah.
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Jason Rant
He should not take the wrap. However, I do think it's reasonable to say or a criticism is that I don't think he handled this over the weekend particularly well. And I think the President is trying to clean that all up. The President has been really good about putting competent people in positions of power and just sort of letting them take the lead and he'll come in when he needs to, and he obviously needed to immediately. Calling Alex Preddy a domestic terrorist was a unwise decision. It was not going to play in the context of even the video that we had at the time. To just merely jump to that that quickly, knowing that the left wing media is never, ever, ever going to be sympathetic to any messaging coming from ICE or coming from CBP or from this administration, just seemed like an unforced error. I think the President is making the right move and putting Tom Homan for now. I don't think Bovino, again to your point, he shouldn't be just thrown under the bus for any of this. Neither should be. Neither should we do that to Christie.
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Charlie Kirk
No.
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Jason Rant
However, I don't think that they handled the messaging well in this case. And it seemed to be put out there in a way that I completely understand. Right. Wanting to immediately back your staff, whether again it's border patrol, ICE or any law enforcement, makes sense because the context has been no matter what it is they do, they're going to be thrown under the bus by left wing media. They're going to be relentless attack. And so the natural instinct is to protect them. But the way you protect them does matter. And the initial messaging went a little bit too far. They did it without the evidence on their side. And look, there were conservatives who called out some of the messaging around one's right to bear arms and have a concealed carry. You know, it's obviously not illegal in Minnesota to have concealed carry while going into a protest. It doesn't mean that what he did was wise. It very clearly wasn't. And had they focused on that, I think they would have won that messaging or at least had a little bit more of an upper hand now.
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Charlie Kirk
And I agree with you. I think The Renee Goode case is a clear cut self defense case. Right. The predi case is a little bit different. If you were omniscient, omniscient, omnipotent, you would probably looking back say you didn't have to fire. All right. And the messaging after I would, I would agree was not helpful based on the video evidence that we had. So we'll get more with Jason Rance when we get back. Back more on the Charlie Kirk show. Don't go anywhere.
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Chip Roy
All right.
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Chip Roy
Show up ready to go. Okay, not talking about peaceful protests anymore. We're not talking about having polite conversations anymore. Sorry, but welcome to America 2026, where Second Amendment is the only thing that's going to keep you protected from literal Nazi gunmen that are killing innocent people in the street with impunity. This is not a joke. There's nothing fun to chant about it. Get your guns and stop these people.
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Charlie Kirk
That's probably your neighbor, Jason. How am I supposed to do with this? This is radical stuff.
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Jason Rant
What we're supposed to do with it is call it out and ensure that this kind of messaging isn't normalized. And that's been the reality, I think, for the last several years, that kind of messaging was completely normalized, where you've got these sad people, lonely people, dangerous people who have convinced themselves that they're actual heroes, that they're freedom fighters. And if not for their violence and act activism, we would be headed towards a fascist country. They believe we're already in that, that, that space. And that's the sad part. And that's why so many people, yourself included, myself included, we've talked about this for the last several years of when you've got radical leftists who are in positions of power, who are out there as recently as yesterday and over the weekend talking about how, you know, they're fighting Nazis, the Gestapo, they're fighting Adolf Hitler incarnate. We know that that's incredibly dangerous. It's not just hyperbole and they know it's not just hyperbole and that it's inspiring their base to commit these kinds of violent acts or at least threaten them. And you know, the attention has to be on normalizing and stigmatizing, again, this kind of language. The reality is there's always going to be crazy people out there and people get inspired by all sorts of things. The question is whether or not the messaging inspiring some of these people are delivered in good faith or not. And when you've got Anne Frank references by Tim Wolf, that's not delivered in good in good faith, when you've got Gavin Newsom out there, it's not delivered in good faith. It's intended to create this kind of violence and at least at a bare minimum, this kind of violent rhetoric. And they believe that. They benefit from it because they keep getting rewarded by left wing press for these kinds of statements. And, you know, the good news is, you know, that individual that you just played, his Venmo, was taken down. I believe his Instagram has been taken down. He now says he's on the run. Trying to now flip this into him being some kind of victim. He's not the victim. He is the bad guy in this room story.
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Charlie Kirk
That's right. Speaking of bad guys and not normalizing bad behavior, you are in Seattle, so I have to ask you about the Super Bowl. Bad Bunny will dress to impress at the super bowl, but won't wear a dress. So this is new. This is breaking.
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Blake
Breaking.
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Charlie Kirk
No dress. Breaking. No dress, Jason. So this is cowardice.
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Blake
He's just backing down.
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Charlie Kirk
He blinked. He blinked. So I'm just disappointed.
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Jason Rant
He should be wearing a dress or he should be performing. If you're going to go all in, you might as well go. I want it all in Spanish and I want it in a dress.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And so Bad Bunny, he did not include US concert tours for fear in his tour. So he didn't include US tour stops in his tour because of fear of Ice raids. And, you know, now we're hearing Super Bowl 2026, ICE agents to conduct enforcement as Trump boycotts the game. There's a lot of layers here to this Super Bowl. You are a Seattle resident. Give us your POV on this super bowl and the much discussed halftime show.
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Jason Rant
Yeah, I will say this season has felt a little bit different, that we've kind of gotten away from a lot of the wokeness. There's no doubt it's become less woke as a league. I. I enjoy watching hometown teams in whether it's a Super bowl or World Series. Fingers crossed next year. So I'm not going to boycott something that I might actually enjoy because of a bunch of lunatics. I don't particularly care about the halftime show. I didn't really know who Bad Bunny was when he became all controversial. I kind of heard of him, but not really followed anything. I will do what I normally do during the halftime, which is just not watch. I focus on the game and, you know, to the extent that anyone enjoys the super bowl, watch the super bowl if that's what you enjoy.
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Charlie Kirk
Do not allow woke sculpt I have to interject here, Jason. We do have a all American halftime show that we would, we would gladly welcome you to watch. It'll be all over x, all over YouTube, all over, all over.
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Jason Rant
Rumble.
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Charlie Kirk
Rumble. So, yep, there it is, the All American halftime show. We do not say the other word in that, in that sentence for fear of legal reprisal, but to 8, 25 all American halftime show. We're gonna have more details on that next week, so please do stay tuned. But, yeah, I mean, I think this is a really interesting touch point actually, just as a culture, because, you know, we have a guy that seems to not really like America performing at the biggest, biggest stage that we have. And that's a, that's a really unfortunate reality. Go ahead, Jason.
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Jason Rant
It is. I just don't want to cede that kind of power to these people to take away something that other people enjoy. It's the same thing. You know, I don't go out of my way to support people who don't support this country, but I also don't allow them to ruin something for me. And the super bowl is not about the halftime show. And to your point, there's some counter programming that's way better to consume for that 15, 20 minutes. And that's what people should do. But I'm not going to say I'm going to boycott an entire league or a championship game because of some people on the radical left demanding it. If we seed over football or baseball or any sports to the left. And we're going to run out of things to enjoy.
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Charlie Kirk
Seattle Red, check it out. Jason Rance, thank you so much. We'll be right back.
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Terrence Bates
Welcome back to this real America's Voice NEWS break. I'm Terrence Bates. Border Czar Tom Homan is spending the day in Minneapolis, meeting with Minnesota Governor Tim Walls and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. President Trump sent him there after his conversation with the governor and mayor on Monday. Holman is being dispatched to discuss ways to move the Twin Cities closer to restoring law and order despite clashes between state and local officials and the feds. President Trump says his ICE deployment in Minneapolis is cutting crime down in Minneapolis.
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Chip Roy
And it's down very much because of the fact that we have to we can't lose sight of the fact that we have to take murderers and drug lords and people from mental infestations that were dumped into our country through open borders of the Democrats of Biden. And we're doing a great job.
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Terrence Bates
Tom Holman is in Minneapolis following Saturday's deadly shooting there in the Twin Cities. At the hands of an ice officer. And while Holman is in Minnesota, President Trump preparing to rally voters in Iowa. He's set to speak in the Des Moines area this afternoon. The White House says today's trip will cancel kick off weekly travel by the president ahead of this year's midterms. 47 will deliver remarks about energy, the economy and affordability during his visit to the Des Moines area. President Trump, no stranger to Iowa, by the way, he spent a good bit of time campaigning there and most recently visited the state in July to kick off the America 250 celebration. Now to the latest on the winter storm that has much of the country frozen like Elsa Ana and Oakland off. The deep freeze is forecast to continue throughout this week as the Northeast continues to dig out from underneath even more snow following Monday's snowfall there. Meantime, at least 30 people have been reported dead as a result of the deadly cold temperatures and the conditions there. The rising death toll includes two people who were run over by snowplows in Massachusetts and a couple of teenagers who died in sledding accidents, accidents in Arkansas as well as Texas. We'll, of course, continue to monitor this for you. You can also go to our sister station Weather Nation. Log on to their website to get up to the moment updates on the weather in your community. That's going to do it for us here on REAL America's Voice. We appreciate you being here with us.
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Charlie Kirk
Speaking the TR truth no one else has the guts to say. The CHARLIE KIRK SHOW all right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Alex Marlo is going to be joining us in just one minute. I'm going to first tell you about our new partners over at StrongCell. They're new, but they're also old. So if you've listened to this show for any matter of time, you've heard about Strong Cell. It was one of Charlie's favorite supplements, an amazing, amazing product. I take it personally. And what it does is it delivers something called NADH as a proprietary delivery mechanism for it. NADH is the power source for every cell in your body. That's why they call it Strong Cell. So if you have brain fog, fatigue, if you have chronic illness, you want to try this because it very well could help you out. It's an amazing, amazing breakthrough enzyme supplement. It's kind of like this new wave of supplements that are happening. You can try completely risk free. So that's the key. You can try it, see if it fixes your issue. I think it probably will. Will. So go visit strongcell.com strongcell.com today 90 day money back guarantee. So completely risk free to try use the promo code Charlie. This is key strongcell.com use promo code Charlie for 20 off your order. That's strongcell.com and don't forget to use our special promo code Charlie at checkout. Love nadh. It's like, it's a breakthrough. You gotta check it out. Total breakthrough. Alex Marlon, editor in chief of Breitbart, host of the Alex Marlowe show, and you, you were just live an hour ago. So everybody should check that out. Get it, you know, tape delayed. Watch our show live, then go check out Alex's. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Alex, good to see you.
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Alex Marlowe
We got the most popular slot, all of us do, because we all want to walk in Russia's shoes and then Dennis's shoes, then Charlie shoes. So everyone wants to be on at noon Eastern. But yeah, you guys have been sounding amazing. I've been listening. You guys are doing a terrific job and I'm really proud of both you guys. So keep up the great work, please.
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Charlie Kirk
Thank you. We, we, our humble offering, our meager offering here. But listen, we got to keep the mission moving forward and Charlie would want us to do. And you sometimes record out of Dennis's studio in Los Angeles, right?
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, that's where I'm at right now. I'm in the chair that was once occupied by our good friend Dennis Prager, who is with us and as brilliant as ever, but did suffer a catastrophic paralysis in an accident just over a year ago. And so luckily he's creating a lot of great content still and I think we'll only create more. But I don't know if he'll be using the studio anymore then. That's where I'm broadcasting live every day at noon for an hour. But it's on tape delay podcast feed. So by all means there's plenty of time to catch both shows.
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Charlie Kirk
That's right. Get it tape delayed on. I have to do that because I have to. We have to rep our.
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Alex Marlowe
Of course, Absolutely. I understand.
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Charlie Kirk
And I had the honor of joining you. I believe that's coming out in a few days. So that was great.
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Alex Marlowe
Yes, in a couple of days. So probably a Thursday or Friday drop. Andrew and I spent an hour together. I got to both of us got misty a couple of times. We go back a long way and people who are listening to the show know that I went back a very long way with Charlie back when he was a still a high schooler sending me A tip at Breitbart News, which we requested that he write up himself. The thing was lightning in a bottle. He was all over Fox. He's all over talk radio. And that was one of several, I would say, little roles I played in Charlie's Rise that I'm so proud of and I'll be talking about forever.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I mean, it's really true. And actually that you're kind of getting to where my first question was going to start. And that is, is we don't probably have President Trump without Breitbart News. We don't have President Trump without Andrew Breitbart. I mean, you could go back even further. You are an expert at analyzing the current political moment. There is a lot of back and forth about all of the illegals going home. Worse. First, this debate, how to message the tactics. You got Homan going up there, Bovino's out. Make sense of it for us, Alex. Make sense of this political moment and what the admin needs to. To do.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, I think Trump's actually been kind of spot on on this, which is great. And he has a lot of proxies, but his instincts are kind of the best. And I think that if any of you watched the Zapruder film, which I'm sure everyone has, and broken it down, I don't know if it was a good shoot or not. There's smart people in my life who say it was. There's some smart people in my life who say it wasn't. And that's not really the point here. The point here is to clarify that the goal is to try to tone down, down the interplay that's taking place between the institutional, well funded, organized left agitators and activists. They're not protesters. There's no protest going on. And you don't show up at a law enforcement operation armed with multiple magazines. If you're just protesting, you're doing this because you're trying to cause problems. And that's exactly what happened. And getting back on that messaging, but still understanding that we don't really know if this was a legal shooting or a just shooting. And we got to let all that work out out. And what we got to do is move on as fast as we can to things we want to talk about, which is deportations, which is wildly popular with Americans, and cracking down on illegal immigrant and immigrant fraud that's happening in this country. We just got to pivot back there as fast as humanly possible. I trust Donald Trump to do that. And I'll tell you who else? I trust Tom Homan. It's not just that Bevino's getting moved off and Noem's getting moved off. That's a very small part of it.
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Jason Rant
It's.
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Alex Marlowe
Tom Homan is the man, he was put on earth for these exact moments. And putting him in charge is exactly the right move.
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Charlie Kirk
I completely agree. I believe that Tom Homan is the perfect man for the job. And Blake, you made this point earlier. Messaging discipline. There's nobody better than messaging discipline, experience.
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Blake
And it's a fine thing to navigate because they are in that position where you do need to change what the narrative is around it. But you can't retreat, you can't concede, you can't say they won. You certainly can't make it look like they won't. And I think it's actually paying dividends that we have multiple sort of famous immigration hawks within DHS such that you can swap out personnel without making it look like a total tear down.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Well, this is interesting. I'm getting some breaking news here. Pima County, Arizona. Shooting incident occurred this morning near milepost 15 on Aravaka Road. Border patrol officers are on the scene. We saw some new activity out of Arizona yesterday. Actually, you could throw this B roll up.334. Ice has been on, on the scene here in Phoenix, Arizona, Maricopa County. And you're seeing the semblance that I think the beginning pieces of what we've seen in Minneapolis, where they're organized, there's obviously some group chats. They're, they're monitoring these unmarked vehicles, these DHS cars, and they're attacking them. They're going after them to harass, harass. And these young women apparently took a selfie with some ICE officers, apparently in support, and they instantly got harassed and chased by activists. So this, so this is my whole point with this, this what we're seeing in Minneapolis. We cannot be perceived to be weak. Now, if Trump can strike a deal, I'm with you. I trust Trump's instincts here. I think the pivot can be fine. I think some of the messaging was mishandled. I agree. If these, you know, if they were omnipotent in this interaction with Preddy, they probably wouldn't have done, done what they did. They probably wouldn't have taken the shot. But you're completely right. It's beside the point. This gentleman should not have been impeding ICE officers. And by the way, again, we made the point earlier. This was not a protest. This was him trying to impede law enforcement the protests happened after the shooting. Okay? So he was obviously up to no good. And apparently there's some other video that's coming out right now, Alex, that shows that he had interaction with ICE about a week before 4. He's claiming that he was tackled by ICE officers or whatever. I don't care. Get the heck out of the way. Let, let law enforcement do their job. And by the. For the love of God, the Trump administration cannot look weak on this. And I don't think that's what's going to happen here. But they cannot look weak.
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Alex Marlowe
Are you guys afraid of being shot right now? Are you afraid ICE is going to shoot you?
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Chip Roy
No.
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Alex Marlowe
Why not? Because first of all, you're not a legal alien evading arrest and you're not a white, leftist, well funded protester who's not really a protester, really an activist who's armed, who's showing up to agitate. The problem is, is that when people like Tim Walls and people like Jacob Fry actually has acknowledged at least that there's Somali fraud going on, he's at least said for whatever reason that, yeah, there is some bad stuff happening here to his credit. But you saw what happens on cnn. You see what happens with Tim Wall said there is no basis for ICE being there. Of course there's a basis. We've all seen the videos. We all know what's happening with aliens in that part of the country. They're stealing taxpayer money. But here's the point here. The most important thing here is that for all of us to understand is that we cannot be perceived as weak because our eye on the ball needs to be that we are going to make America more affordable. We're going to make it safer. And they hate that. And that's really what they're protesting against. It's not even a protest. What they're doing is they're trying to deliberately stop the enforcement of our laws because they know a lot of society is better for them politically. And we've got to be able to explain that to people in an efficient and effective way. And we've got to cut through the noise, which I think we can do. Especially when they're running so far to the extreme where they're calling Stephen Miller. The Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project was saying, Stephen Miller needs to be hung. He seriously needs to be hung in public. You had that crazy guy with the pink P word hat on on CNN yesterday who was talking about how they're going to put people in ovens. That level of extremity. We need to use that to our advantage. To point out that these people are truly radical and they have no sense of confidence. Common sense.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I mean I completely agree. And we've got, you've got my favorite guy here, Jimmy Kimmel giving them air support because that's what he always do. This is from about a week ago, but it plays 339. They're trying out a new slogan. Donald J. Trump is going to kill you. He isn't just killing people overseas. An ICE agent today shot and killed an unarmed 37 year old woman during an ICE operation in Minneapolis. They're there under the guise of protecting us.
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Terrence Bates
I want to see 2ice get the.
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Jason Rant
Out of me out there.
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Charlie Kirk
And now you've got Stephen Colbert screaming from the top of his lungs. You guys have this up on Breitbart. Colbert screams F ice. Kimmel is crying. And John Stewart rants after gun about guns after latest federal agent involved shooting. So the air support's coming in. They think they're going to win the hearts and minds here. And I just want everybody to be very clear that this is a tactic they harass. They get, they get martyrs so they get some casualties, then they play victim.
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Alex Marlowe
The martyring part is really essential because I don't know what was in Alex Pareti's heart, but I know that if he was trying to commit suicide by ice, he would have not behaved any differently. That's exactly how he behaved, is in a way that was designed so that he would get killed and then he would become a martyr. Now I don't know, I have no idea if that's what his intention was but I know that that is, is a playbook now that can be followed. And now ISIS, to be extra careful and they have an important job to do, they're trying to enforce our immigrations and custom laws. That's all they're there to do. They're not there to do anything else. They probably don't even want to be there. They'd probably rather be at home. But they're there deployed to try to enforce what's clearly immigration violations is taking place in the area. And so their lives can be made difficult when these media cycles play out.
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Terrence Bates
The way they have.
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Alex Marlowe
Because what's happened now is this is penetrated in the broader culture. People not following shows like this or content like ours. People who just casual observers of the news and they hear wow, I shot a guy. They're cold blooded and they don't hear the context, they don't hear any sort of corrections that take place and that is something where we need to be very conscious. And I think President Trump is, to be honest with you.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. I mean, Blake, I'd love your thoughts on this because, you know, you have been advocating for less, I guess, boisterous, performative tweeting from dhs.
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Blake
What you want here is, is you. What the base wants, is they want proof that it's working. And for a lot of people, like the. The boisterous stuff, the. The performative stuff, it's kind of a way of showing, like, hey, we're serious about this. We have credibility on this. But I think the base would also just accept the clear, obvious signs that what you're doing is working. In fact, the freakouts of the left are often all the proof you need that this is happening. So you don't necessarily need a big car, like a meme of someone, like, sobbing as they're, like, taken away in a helicopter or whatever, whatever. As long as the left is freaking out. And it's very clear that this is. This is all happening, that you're getting the job done. That's what the base will be satisfied with. It's just like with the border. You don't need infinity memes that the border is closed. The border is closed. Everyone knows it. And that's the victory.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, it's interesting. I hate this article from the Wall Street Journal, but it says this is backfiring against Republicans. Waltz is happy. And they call the comm strategy the own. The libs strategy for dhs. Maybe they have a point there. We'll be right back with Alex Marlowe. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined by Alex Marlo. I'm just getting details on some breaking, some breaking news here that Alex Preddy was shot, who was shot in Minneapolis and died this past weekend. At an earlier incident, he stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, began shouting, shouting, blowing his whistle. And then he later told the same sources that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back. Appearing to break his rib. Is, according to sources. So a week before he was ultimately killed, he was out there cosplaying as a. As a, you know, vigilante here. So broke rib in confrontation with federal agents a week before death, sources say. So that's an interesting wrinkle. He was apparently known to law enforcement in Minneapolis. So fascinating detail. I don't know what to necessarily make of that, but obviously this was a person that was devoting his life and his time to confronting law enforcement. To stopping ice, the definition of an anti ICE organizer. So there's that. I want to take our attention in a slightly different direction. Alex, this is Jennifer Welch, who's now made a name for herself as being basically the most vile person that you see on social media. She's attacking white evangelical Christianity in this clip. We'll play it, Alex, and get your take on the other side. 3:33. Evangelical Christianity is a cancer. These are the worst, worst of our country. They use their religion in two ways. As a weapon and as a shield. They weaponize it whenever they want to and say, we're on the moral high ground. You're a lesbian.
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Jennifer Welch
You deserve to die.
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Charlie Kirk
You're a lesbian. The cops shouldn't have revived you. Oh, your parents are Mexicans and they.
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Jennifer Welch
Brought you over here.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, you should go to jail and eat worm food. And then when you call them out.
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Chip Roy
On it, oh, my God.
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Jennifer Welch
God, they're after the Christians.
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Charlie Kirk
How dare they? How dare they? We're so oppressed.
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Jennifer Welch
White Christians are so oppressed in this country. And it should come as no surprise.
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Charlie Kirk
To anyone that of this cult that I'm talking about, white evangelicals, I think over 80% went and voted triple trumped.
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Blake
This person is basically, it's. If you read about, like the Rwanda genocide, there's a thing called Hutu radio. So it was the Hutus and Tuts season, Hutu radio, it was basically just this radio station that broadcasts constant anti Tutsi propaganda that, you know, called them cockroaches, things like that. And this woman just feels like that for, well, white evangelical Christian America. Like a lot of that is just insane lies. And she does it non stop all the time. Like, she's kind of. She's the final boss of Awfuls as. As it were, Very, very dark woman.
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Jason Rant
Woman.
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Blake
And, oh, man, we're probably gonna be stuck with her a long time, but.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, she's a lunatic.
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Blake
Like a very. A very hateful lunatic. And like you, you can just tell, like this woman, this woman would be like having that obnoxious, incredibly sinister grin of hers as she funnels you into a gas chamber or whatever.
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Charlie Kirk
She's good at the otherizing language. Alex, your reaction?
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, I. I love the content. I mean, it is pure evil. It just also.
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Charlie Kirk
Also false.
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Alex Marlowe
I mean, Christians tend to be way more charitable. They spend way more time volunteering. I mean, I can't tell you how all the horrible stuff said about Christians is some of them, I think, do badly, but they at least mean well. And a lot of them, as a percentage spend a lot more of their time doing productive things for our society. And I feel like as we've gotten more secular, we've certainly gotten less happy, we have more crime, we have less optimism. So I think we should would all benefit from a more Christian revival, rival approach to society. That's my take. Obviously, she disagrees, but I'm just very pro her saying this stuff publicly because if people want to hold up this person who is so unappealing, is so unconvincing, is so angry and so petty as a champion of their values, this makes me very positive. This is the thing is that when you look at their slate of spokespeople right now, the Tampoo and Timmy Walls, I mean, these people are so unlikable, they're so uncharismatic, they're so full of baloney, that I think that is just a remarkable opportun for the rest of us, especially happy warriors in the Christian faith in particular, to stand up and say, we're not going to tolerate any of this and we're going to beat it.
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Charlie Kirk
You know what it struck me with that clip is she. You could. You could insert lgbtq, you could insert Black America, you could insert any of their preferred victim groups, their marginalized groups, their special interest groups, and that would be 100% true of basically any leftist flavor of the the week. And she. So it just strikes me as this massive projection. And to your point, Christians are the best of this country. Yeah, we're not perfect. Yeah, we make mistakes. But you try having an America without Christianity and it will fail. The country that she's enjoying, the country that she's blessed to be in, whether she acknowledges it or not, is a blessing because it is good. And why is it good is because it's Christian roots. This is something Charlie talked about so much, much so much. That is what makes America great, actually, is how great people are.
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Alex Marlowe
To look at this at a literal point where she says that evangelical Christianity is a cancer. And these are the worst people in the country. Well, they're the worst because they're threatening to her. Because we tend to vote conservative. And that's the main thing to understand is that we people of faith believe that God is above all else, God, family. And then maybe politics is third for us, maybe it's fourth behind career, stuff like. Like that. It's a. But for the left right now, it's politics above all else. They believe that politics is their guiding principle and the ends justify the means in order for them to achieve political victory. And just note that if there's a group of people who are God fearing, who pay their taxes, who are not criminals, who do a lot of volunteer work or give a lot to charity, they do not care if you don't support their guy politically. If you support the opposite side, the Donald Trump side, then you are inherently bad and wrong. And it's very important to understand that that because there's not a lot of a place where we can agree. There's a huge amount of daylight between the two positions in this country, and that's relatively new where there's such a big gulf.
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Charlie Kirk
I totally agree. We actually talked about this in our conversation, Alex, and this is the Charlie Kirk Show. So we're going to play a clip of Charlie talking about just this 345. John Adams famously said, the Constitution was only written for a moral and religious people. It was wholly inadequate for the people of any other.
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Chip Roy
The body politic of America was so.
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Charlie Kirk
Christian and was so Protestant that our.
- [92:57]
Chip Roy
Form and structure of government was built.
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Jason Rant
For the people that believed in Christ our Lord.
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Chip Roy
One of the reasons we're living through.
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Charlie Kirk
A constitutional crisis is that we no.
- [93:05]
Chip Roy
Longer have a Christian nation, but we.
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Jason Rant
Have a Christian form of government and they're incompatible.
- [93:09]
Chip Roy
So you cannot have liberty if you.
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Charlie Kirk
Do not have a Christian population. I'll never forget watching that live. Brilliant. I looked at the team, a longer clip that I'd love to play. We just don't have enough time. But I think you're right. I. Alex, this is a threat to her, her way of life. Christianity is a threat to her cult.
- [93:27]
Chip Roy
Her.
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Charlie Kirk
The. The left really is a cult. It's an ideological cult. And she knows that we're a threat and we should become a bigger threat and organize even. Even in greater measure. Alex, final 30 seconds to you.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah. I'm optimistic that with the message of Charlie, with what you guys are carrying forward, what I'm trying to do, and so many others like us, that this will just fuel people to get focused. You played this clip to someone who's not a hardcore leftist. And this woman is complet saying I don't want anything to do with anything she's associated with. So that's why I'm gonna keep playing clips like this myself.
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Charlie Kirk
Amen. Alex Marlo, host of the Alex Marlow show, editor in chief of Breitbarton. Breaking the Law is also out. So check out that book. Your breaking series is. Is really important, Alex. Charlie was a big believer in it. Thank you for making the time, my friend. We'll see you soon.
- [94:14]
Alex Marlowe
You guys should stick with it. You guys are doing a great job.
- [94:16]
Charlie Kirk
Awesome. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
- [94:28]
Alex Marlowe
This is an iHeart podcast.
- [94:31]
Jason Rant
Guaranteed Human.