The Charlie Kirk Show, January 29, 2026

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — Episode Summary

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Charlie Kirk (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Date: January 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Charlie Kirk dives into a series of high-profile topics with prominent guests including President Donald Trump (via cabinet excerpts), FBI Director Cash Patel, Senator Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma, and Pastor Andrew Sedgwick. The episode covers in-depth discussions on the recent FBI raid in Fulton County, health care reform under the Trump administration, border enforcement and shutdown politics, ideological divides around Islam and the West, and youth activism on college and high school campuses. The conversation blends policy analysis, culture war commentary, and responses to recent events, maintaining an urgent and combative tone.

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Major Segments and Key Discussions

1. President Trump & Cabinet Meeting: Health Care, Economic Goals, and Drug Prices

[00:26–05:16, 16:15–24:15]

• Trump recounts tough negotiations with pharmaceutical companies to achieve "most favored nation" status on drug pricing, threatening tariffs to secure compliance.
  • "I said, well, if you don't do it, I'm going to charge you a 25% tariff on all of your wine, champagne, and everything else you sell into the United States." — Donald Trump [01:21]
  • Trump frames the achievement as precedent-defying, crediting his direct approach: "Every one of them agreed. After a short conference, they all said no. And then within a matter of seconds, they said, we would be very happy to do that." [01:39]
• Health Secretary expands on drug pricing and rural care reforms:
  • Outlines new agreements ensuring lower drug prices, repatriation of production, and $10 billion in funding for rural hospitals.
  • Announces nutrition policy requiring more real food in public benefits programs, attacking ultra-processed foods and medical fraud.
  • "Every American... when you go to a restaurant, you look at the prices before you buy the meal. You ought to be able to do that when you go to a hospital." — Health Secretary [22:13]
• Economic Reflections:
  • Trump laments the current market's negative reaction to good news and advocates for growth without inflation.

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2. FBI Director Cash Patel on Fulton County FBI Search

[06:02–15:37]

• Breaking Down the FBI Raid:
  • Cash Patel details the rationale and procedures behind the FBI executing a warrant at Fulton County, GA’s 2020 election warehouse. Emphasizes adherence to legal process and President Trump’s law-and-order agenda.
  • "We presented our facts and the findings... the judge determined there was probable cause. And then you saw the results, we went and executed a search warrant." — Cash Patel [08:44]
• Statistical Overview:
  • FBI boasts a 20% national drop in murders, 67,000 arrests (a 210% increase), and massive seizures of fentanyl.
• Security of Evidence:
  • Responding to local fears, Patel defends FBI evidence protocol: "For anybody to hint that this FBI or this Department of Justice is mishandling evidence is just flat out political buffoonery." [13:21]
• Statute of Limitations and the Future:
  • Patel emphasizes working within legal timelines for election investigations and urges looking at FBI results rather than just promises.

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3. Shutdown Politics, Border Enforcement, and The SAVE Act

With Sen. Markwayne Mullin
[26:58–39:34]

• Senate Gridlock and Shutdown Threats:
  • Mullin argues upcoming shutdown risk is for show, as critical DHS functions (ICE, Border Patrol) remain funded due to surplus in accounts from previous bills.
  • He critiques Democrats for targeting ICE and DHS, noting shutdowns would harm agencies like TSA, FEMA, and the Coast Guard instead.
• Border Security:
  • Praises Border Czar Tom Homan’s uncompromising stance and the effort to secure local cooperation on criminal immigrants. Criticizes sanctuary city policies, focusing particularly on Minneapolis leadership.
  • "If they want ICE off the street, then say you're going to enforce federal law. If you're saying you're not going to enforce federal law, then the federal government is obligated to do so." — Markwayne Mullin [34:08]
• The SAVE Act:
  • Discussion of legislative efforts to require voter ID and limit non-citizen voting. Mullin admits passage likely requires eliminating the Senate filibuster for funding bills.

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4. "Trump Accounts" for Newborns and Building Capitalist Stake

[41:05–45:44]

• Charlie celebrates the proposal and Turning Point’s new $1,000-a-child "Invest America" account—seed funding for every staffer’s newborn.
  • Mullin: "If you can imagine you put a thousand dollars in and if you don’t put another penny in and you keep that set there [invested], you’ll have over $2 million in it." [42:23]
• The group hails this as a means to promote responsible capitalism, generational wealth, and resistance to radicalization.

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5. Cultural Commentary: Bruce Springsteen, Selective Outrage, and "Civil Rights Envy"

[45:44–47:39]

• Kirk and guests denounce Springsteen’s new protest song—accusing it of one-sidedness and neglecting victims of immigrant crime, especially referencing murdered Americans.
  • "Where’s the song for Jocelyn Nungri? Where's the song for Rachel Moran? ...The selective outrage just absolutely infuriates me." — Charlie Kirk [46:09]
• Blake coins the term "civil rights envy" for modern leftist activism seeking to mimic past civil rights struggles.

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6. Western Values vs. Islam & Socialism: A Global and Theological Debate

With Pastor Andrew Sedgwick
[48:24–65:41]

• Australian Guest Perspective:
  • Pastor Sedgwick, of Egyptian origin, critiques Western naivete toward Islam, warning that "Sharia law is real," and "Islam is about death, tyranny, and jihad."
  • Stresses the incompatibility of imported Islamic values with Western (Christian) freedom: "Freedom is fundamentally a Christian concept... The more America drives away from Christendom, the more taxation you will have." [56:53, 63:56]
• The Left-Islamist Alliance:
  • Discusses how the "unholy alliance" between socialism and Islam is facilitated by mutual opposition to Christianity and Western success.
  • "Islam and godless leftism... hate Christianity because it hates freedom." — Sedgwick [58:45]
• Socialism in Australia as a Warning:
  • Sedgwick describes the economic consequences of Australia’s welfare state—high taxes, unaffordable housing, and resource mismanagement—as a cautionary tale for America.

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7. Youth Roundtable: ICE Controversy, School Indoctrination, and the New Culture War

With Student Chapter Leaders
[71:17–89:42]

• Student Leaders from High School and Colleges (UT Knoxville, University of Georgia, Inver Hills CC, etc.):
  • High school student Haley details teacher-led resistance to pro-American clubs and pressure against ICE on campus ("Teachers... were not on board with this.").
  • College students describe peaks of anti-ICE activism, left-wing walkouts, and the chilling effect on conservative speech in certain environments.
• Peer Perspective on Public Safety vs. Activism:
  • Students emphasize the need for law enforcement and criticize activist escalation ("It's a terrible idea to start an altercation with law enforcement with a firearm on you." — Edward [72:45]).
• Key Student Concerns:
  • Economic opportunity, housing affordability for young adults, immigration policy, and resisting groupthink and misinformation on social media.

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8. Closing Thoughts and Calls for Courage

[89:42–90:08]

• Pastor Sedgwick offers encouragement to young conservatives: "[You] are leading by conviction and courage. Just like Charlie Kirk... be like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego—have faith in the midst of a culture where young people are fundamentally indoctrinated." [77:04]
• Charlie urges continued resistance to indoctrination, groupthink, and calls on students to stand vigilant.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On FBI's Integrity:
  "For anybody to hint that this FBI or this Department of Justice is mishandling evidence is just flat out political buffoonery." — Cash Patel [13:21]

• On Drug Price Negotiations:
  "I said, if you don't do it, I'm going to charge you a 25% tariff... Like I said, I will do it. That was the end of the conversation." — Donald Trump [01:21]

• On Newborn Accounts:
  "If you can imagine, you put a thousand dollars in and if you don't put another penny in and you keep that set there [invested], you’ll have over $2 million in it." — Sen. Mullin [42:23]

• On Indoctrination in Schools:
  "The left doesn’t multiply in the bedroom— they multiply in the classroom, as they always do." — Pastor Andrew Sedgwick [77:04]

• On the Roots of Western Freedom:
  "Freedom is fundamentally a Christian concept... The more America drives away from Christendom, the more taxation you will have." — Pastor Andrew Sedgwick [56:53, 63:56]

• On Activist Martyrdom vs. True Martyrdom:
  "A jihadist dies for the sake of his political agenda. Charlie Kirk died for faith, family, freedom." — Pastor Andrew Sedgwick [50:13]

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

• Drug Price Negotiations/Trump Cabinet: [01:13]–[05:16], [16:15]–[24:15]
• FBI Fulton County Raid: [06:02]–[15:37]
• Senate Shutdown Politics & Immigration: [26:58]–[39:34]
• “Trump Accounts” Segment: [41:05]–[45:44]
• Bruce Springsteen, Civil Rights Envy: [45:44]–[47:39]
• Islam, Christendom, and Socialism: [48:24]–[65:41]
• Student Panel on ICE & School Indoctrination: [71:17]–[89:42]

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Conclusion

This densely packed episode sees The Charlie Kirk Show moving swiftly between the Trump administration’s achievements (especially on healthcare and law enforcement), ongoing investigations into the 2020 election, and sharp cultural critique—particularly of progressive activism and Islam. With an undercurrent of urgency, the show aims to bolster confidence among conservatives, offering student voices and spiritual encouragement to weather cultural and political battles ahead.

Transcript

[Haley Ron Canyon]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

[Donald Trump]

Do it. And when I got them on the.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Phone, I said, don't do a written statement, but I'm not going to use it.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

I'm just going to talk to you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Guys for a few minutes and.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

All right, here we go.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know the drill.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Off the jail.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

That's a war crime.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

That's a one year ban from the committee.

[Donald Trump]

Secretary Rubio, we have two hearings a week. You know, you seem to have a more robust following than most of our witnesses that come before us, but there'll.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Be a couple more.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

So I just, I'm thankful.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Stopping the clock.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

It's unfortunate that Greg Bovino's, his dressing, his whole package.

[Health Secretary]

Is so familiar that.

[Charlie Kirk]

I, I believe that it, it was blinding for some people.

[Donald Trump]

As an example, there were many examples. I could give you examples. Even worse. He said, no, no, no, I will not do that. And I said, yes, you will, 100%, you'll do it. I said, said, no, I won't do that. Donald, you're asking me to double the cost of our prescription. We will not do that. I mean, look, you've been ripping us off now for decades. We're not going to do it anymore. You can do it under Biden and Obama and other people. You're not going to do it under us. We won't do it. I said, well, if you don't do it, I'm going to charge you a 25% tariff on all of your wine, champagne, and everything else you sell into the United States. He said, like I said, I will do it. That was the end of the conversation, right? That was the end of the conversation. So now we have favored nations that everybody said would be impossible to get. And I then had the same conversation with 15 other countries. Every one of them agreed. After a short conference, they all said no. And then within a matter of seconds, they said, we would be very happy to do that. Thank you for asking in such a nice way. And it's, you know, it's a great achievement. I think it's going to be one of the best achievements we've had in this country in a long time. So we're going to be knocking drug prices down at levels never seen before. I want to thank the drug companies because once they agreed, they really did, they felt it was very unfair. One of them told me it's actually a relief to agree because this has been just a rough thing for me, you know, to justify, because they couldn't justify it. I said, how come in London I can buy something for $10 and in New York I have to pay $130? And they go, well, you know, it's research and development. I said, yeah, but you have research and development from them. Made in the same factory, Made in everything. This is where my friend who's very successful, I told you, a seriously overweight person, he takes the fat. The fat pill or the fat shot. And he was in London and he said, cost $87 there, cost $1,300 in New York. What's going on? He called me up and I mean, I knew that, but he put it in a very blunt way. I've known him a long time. He's a crude individual, but smart as hell. Made a lot of money, but he just thought it was sort of ridiculous. He happened to be in London and he got the shot, you know, Ozempic, I think, or whatever. And I told him it wasn't working for him. It didn't work. And he brought up a good. He knows who I'm talking about. He's going great. He begs me not to mention.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's not talking about me, ladies.

[Donald Trump]

It's not our great vice president. No, but he begs me not to mention his name because he's become very famous without mentioning his name. And he is actually a very well known business person. But he did make a point. But I knew the point very well. We were always paying far more than any other nation. We were subsidizing the world. Right now, there's no more of that. So we're going to be bringing the drug prices down at numbers never, never seen before. It's going to have a huge impact, positive impact on health care. So with that, we are going to ask a couple of people to say a few words and we're not going to go through the whole table because the last time we had a press conference, it lasted for three hours. And some people said he closed his eyes. Look, it got pretty boring in all things. I love these people. I love these people. But there's a lot of people. It was a little bit on the boring side, but I didn't sleep. I just closed them because I wanted to get the hell out of here. Some of them I didn't sleep, by the way. I don't sleep much, let me tell you. But you know, it's funny, some of them got me in a blink. You know.

[Charlie Kirk]

Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive.

[Health Secretary]

Fear not, you Found the place for truth.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

The voice of a generation that still.

[Charlie Kirk]

Has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Buckle up, here we go.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, January 29, 2026 here at the Bitcoin.com studios to our Real America's Voice audience. We are going to cut away just briefly from the President's cabinet meeting and we will get back to that in just a sec. But we want to talk with FBI Director Cash Patel who is making time to join us here. Welcome to the show, Mr. Director.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

It's always great to be with you guys. Thanks for having me on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, thank you for making the time for us. We get right into it. Yesterday was a big day. There was a FBI warrant that was executed at the main election warehouse operations center in Fulton County, Georgia relating to the 2020 election. What can you tell us, sir?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Yeah, thanks so much for having me. As you know, I really don't do these types of appearances, but I wanted to address it because it's of great public importance. And let me just set the backdrop. President Trump, under his leadership and under the Department of Justice and the Attorney General have made it a priority to reduce crime and safeguard American citizenry. That's why this FBI along with our partners were able to reduce produce a reduction in the murder rate by 20 percentage points from coast to coast. That is an all time record for the modern era. This FBI has arrested 67,000 people in the last year. That's a 210% increase from the year before. And we're seizing fentanyl at record levels, enough to kill 150 million Americans, 35% more. Espionage, arrest. The reason I go through these statistics is because within these statistics are lives saved and communities safeguarded by President Trump's brilliant leadership. And our great partners at the Department of Justice under Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch. And the reason I bring these things out and we captured six top 10 of the FBI's most wanted in one year, including Ryan Wedding and another individual in Mexico just last week. Where I and the reason I go through this is because we, thanks to President Trump, are a law enforcement police force for the United States government. And we take these cases seriously and we go into court and we present the facts and we work the legal process. And that's what you saw yesterday. It was a DOJ and FBI effort to present after an extended period of time of investigations. Because as you know, any of these cases, the Ones I just talked about in general, or this one specifically, take time to develop. We have to go out and conduct investigations, interrogations, interviews, collect information, data, and synthesize them with our brilliant partners at DOJ to present. And that's what I want to highlight. The FBI and DOJ presented this information to a judge in Georgia, where they determined, the judge, that there was a finding for probable cause following the constitutional precepts that are necessary to safeguard an investigation that just like any other, we do. And what we did yesterday was we presented our facts and the findings of the investigation, and the judge determined there was probable cause. And then you saw the results, we went and executed a search warrant and collected the information pursuant to that search warrant to continue our investigation. And that's what I want to harp on to your audience and the American people. These things take time. And it's not one of those matters where I'm saying, trust us. I'm saying, look at the last year under President Trump's leadership, what this DOJ and FBI has done, record levels of safety across America. And we are going after the worst of the worst, including child predators. And our arrest on child predators and disrupting child predator networks are up anywhere from 50 to 500%, depending on the category. So we're taking the same mindset to every kind of investigation. And that's what you saw unfold yesterday, the leadership of the DOJ and FBI on the ground, going and presenting facts to a neutral and detached arbiter of justice, the judge who authorized a search warrant. And we collected more information.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, Director Patel, you know, there was multiple truckloads of materials, including boxes of ballots, physical ballots from 2020 ballot images, 2020 voter rolls, tabulators, potentially tapes. What was the predicate for this? What can you tell us? You say it takes a lot of time to build this case. Is there any other granularity or details you can share with the audience?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

What we do is to safeguard the integrity of this investigation or any investigation, is apply for the search warrant. And then what we do is we speak through our public papers in court. And what we will do next over the course of time with the Department of Justice is move to have the search warrant unsealed so that the American public can read whatever material that we put in there right now. That, of course, remains under seal, so I can't discuss it. And also I want to highlight that we don't want to jeopardize any piece of this investigation by releasing information, not just prematurely, but we, as officers of the court, our U.S. attorneys and our FBI agents are responsible and committed under the law to abide by the parameters of the search warrant. And that's the rubric we're operating under right now. So I think you'll see again, given the last year that we've had under President Trump, that we divulge information, we produce information to Congress and the public at record levels, and we're going to continue to do that, but we're not going to jeopardize the investigation yet. Was a big public facing step, and you're right, you saw trucks, you saw material being removed. And what the FBI will do is now analyze that information. And we will take the next investigatory steps with our Department of Justice partners. The FBI and DOJ will run this investigation as we have every other investigation that has resulted in these record achievements for the President and under the President's leadership for America.

[Charlie Kirk]

What can you tell us about the timeline that we obviously understand? I hear you're harping on it. These things take time to develop. Is there any expectations about when we might get the next update on this case? Because this has generated a ton of interest and intrigue, as I'm sure you're aware. What's next? What can we expect next?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

And that, and that's just it. You know, I can't predict where an investigation is going to go. What we do best with our lawyers and our agents is gather the evidence, which we just did, which takes a monumental step to do so. And then we have to, we have to look at it and see, okay, now what do we got? Do we need more search warrants? Do we need to talk to more witnesses? Do we need to examine any other locations or pieces of evidence? And so that's going to unfold as we go through the evidence. But as you highlighted, it takes a minute to go through truckloads of evidence. And that's the next step. Once we go through that and we discuss the matter with Department of Justice and FBI personnel, then we'll make any next public facing steps for permitted without jeopardizing the investigation. So I just wanted to address that, to say this has been a well thought out, methodical, predicated investigation and, and, and that's what we do here. And that's what the President wants us to do. Follow the facts and the law. And that's all we're doing here at DOJ and FBI. And, you know, we're just, we're just thankful that we have a great Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General and great FBI personnel who dedicated themselves not Just to this mission, but to the entire mission of keeping America safe. And that's what we're going. We're not going to change it for any, any type of investigation. The results speak for themselves. And the results after one year will hopefully give the American public confidence that we will handle this investigation no differently than any other.

[Blake]

Director Patel, the. The Fulton county chairman has been complaining that he says the ballots are no longer safe and secure because the FBI has them, that they've lost. What do you have to say to that?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

The FBI is the world's premier law enforcement agency. We collect evidence from around the country and all over the world. We have facilities that store evidence. We have facilities that maintain the chain of custody. And for anybody to hint that this FBI or this Department of Justice is mishandling evidence is just flat out political buffoonery. We will maintain the chain of custody. We will secure it like we always do, and we will make sure that we can use it to further any investigation. And most importantly, we will make sure that it is maintained under the rigors of the law so that we can use it in any future court proceedings that may rise out of any investigation.

[Blake]

And that's kind of the last point there. Is there any concern. I was checking the statute of limitations on a lot of election fraud claims is five years, which were basically right up against. Right up against. Is there any concern about timeline on that, or do they have a thought of ways they could extend that? Has that entered the calculus at all?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

You know, the calculus with the. In terms of the statute is always for our brilliant attorneys at doj, who we work in conjunction with, and we always abide by the statute of limitations and any constitutional parameters that we have. But we were able to effectuate the search warrant in a timely fashion legally, and had a judge find, make a finding, a probable cause. So we, we did just that. And that's where we are today. And look, especially for you and your audience, who have been such great supporters, law enforcement, I wish I could tell you more. And hopefully the audience takes away the fact that after one year under President Trump, it's no longer trust us. It's look at what we've done. And we're going to continue to do the same thing here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, Director Patel, I know you got a dash and we just thank you for your time. But you guys have accomplished a lot with that top 10 most wanted list. You're making massive progress there. Murders are down, crime is down. So we appreciate you making the time. We will wait on bated breath for updates on this case. As I know you know, Director Patel, just how much this means to the base and President Trump supporters. Thank you again for your time.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Thank you so much. And thanks. Thank you. And Erica and the entire Turning Point community. We really appreciate your support of law enforcement.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you. God bless you. We are going to throw back to the Cabinet meeting that is ongoing right now on Real America's Voice. We'll be back in just a few.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We have the press conference. Well, it's a Cabinet meeting with President Trump ongoing. We're going to take that for a few minutes. And then after that, we've got Senator Mark Wayne Mullen on next. We're going to talk about shutdown threats from Schumer and the SAVE act. But we'll go back to the Cabinet meeting For now.

[Donald Trump]

We could hit numbers that have never been hit before. We could hit 8, 9, 10. There's no reason why not. And you know, it's I talk about if you go back 20 years, 25 years, I'm old enough to remember when we had good news, when you announced good news, the stock market went up. You announced anything good, the stock market went up, you announced bad, the stock market went up. And that's the way it should be. But now it's over the last 15 or so years, if you announce good news, that means they're going to raise interest rates because they want to kill it. So you can never really be that successful because you announce all record numbers. Great, great, great. Because they're afraid of inflation. But growth doesn't have to have any impact on inflation. It can make inflation go down in many cases. So and you've seen that with us. I mean, we're growing at a much faster rate than anybody thought was possible. We have very controllable inflation. With Biden, we were getting killed and we had the worst inflation in 48 years in history, in the history of our country. And that's with going down. So growth is a great thing. It doesn't mean inflation. And I want to go back to a system where when we announce good news, they say that's great, we can lower it interest rates instead of raising. And by the way, if inflation comes, we'll take care of it when it comes. But, you know, they're trying to guess it and they're trying to get it 10 years before in advance. And you know, we want to make this country greater than ever before. And I think we're doing that. But we want to make it that when we announce great news, everything goes up. If we announce bad news, that happens, too. We bring it down and we control and we. We do what we have to do. But we can have numbers in the upside like nobody has ever seen before. I want to ask Bobby to say a few words, if he would, about some of the incredible things that we've been doing in your department with Oz and everybody else.

[Health Secretary]

Mr. President, we're in the process of implementing your great health care bill, which is going to increase affordability, drive down costs, and increase the quality of health care for every American. You mentioned MFN, most favored nation. We now have agreements with 16 of the 17 drug companies. And you asked us to do something. You know, Clinton had promised to do this, Biden had promised this. Obama, Bush had all promised to it. None of them succeeded. It was regarded as impossible, and you made it 10 times harder. As you said, not only do I want mfn, but I want them to all reassure their production to this country. And they don't have any money to do it because we've taken it all from them. And I want to make sure we continue to lead the world in innovation. We succeeded in all of those goals. And the proof that we did that is after we signed those agreements, the stock prices for those companies went up $1.3 trillion.

[Donald Trump]

Amazing.

[Health Secretary]

And they are reshoring. Eli Lilly is building six new plants, including an API plant. So the next time that we have a pandemic in this country, we're not going to be stuck buying API from China, who cuts us off. We're going to be able to make it right here. Novo Nordisk is building four new plants, and we are going to be releasing Trump Rx so that every American can get lowest prices in the developed world. In some cases, they're going to be lower than the lowest prices in the developed world. And that's going to be happening sometime, probably in the next 10 days. We're doing rural health care. We sent out $10 billion last week. The states have that money. They're going to be giving it to rural hospitals sometimes the next two weeks. And we're going to revolutionize rural health care in this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

We.

[Health Secretary]

You are putting. You are raising the influx of federal dollars to rural health care by 30% over the next five years. So 30%. Every year, more dollars, federal dollars are going to be flowing to them. It's going to allow them to rebuild their decaying infrastructure, to retain providers, and also to revolutionize the use of AI and other technologies, which is going to dramatically lower the prices for rural Americans and raise the quality of their health care. Brooke and I release dietary guidelines which have received incredible acclamation from both sides of the aisle. We are going to change the food culture in this country. Brooke gives away $405 million a day to buy food for Americans. And the WIC program, the Head Start program, SNAP school lunches, the VA and the military, they're now going to be getting real food for the first time. And Brooke came up with the ingenious idea of requiring every store in this country that accepts food stamps to double the amount of real food that they're selling. And this is going to drive changes in the market and it's going to lower the cost of meats, of proteins, of whole grains, of fruits and vegetables, so that every American will have in their reach an affordable meal that actually is real food. 70% of American kids now are. 70% of the diet of American kids is now ultra processed foods. That's why we're spending $5 trillion in, in treating chronic disease in this country every year. We are attacking fraud. We have odds finding hundreds of billions of dollars of Medicaid, Medicare fraud in states like Minnesota and California, and we are clawing back that money. We also accomplished something that every American has promised, which is prior authorization. Now we have 80% of the insurance industry and it has agreed to eliminate prior authorization in almost all of their procedures. Every. This is going to dramatically change the experience of every American with health care system. When you go to your doctor at your point of care, before you leave that office, you will know whether the insurance company is going to pay for the procedure or not. And that is going to, as I said, change the experience. We're also doing price transparency, which you asked during your first term. It never got implemented because the Biden administration never enforced it. We brought more enforcement actions against hospitals and in this one year and the Biden administration bought in four years and we're doing it crackdown so that every American, when you go to a restaurant, you look at the prices before you buy the meal. You ought to be able to do that when you go to a hospital. And by the time that we leave office, every American is going to have that guarantee. We're doing a lot of other stuff, but we were told to keep it short.

[Donald Trump]

And the autism that's moving along really is.

[Health Secretary]

We're doing, we've commissioned now dozens of studies, maybe over a hundred, and we are going to get those done for you.

[Donald Trump]

That's so important. Also Eli Lilly, Merck Pfizer, every drug company, they're spending trillions of dollars right now as we speak building plants in the United States because they want to be able to save a lot of money on tariffs. It will be hundreds of percentage, 100%, 200%, 300% in two or three years from now. So I said, you better have your plant built because. And.

[Terrance Bates]

Terrance Bates here with your real America's Voice news break. We appreciate you being here. It's been a very busy day for President Trump as he spent the morning receiving an intelligence briefing and then hosting a Cabinet meeting. You're looking at that Cabinet meeting meeting here this evening. The president and first lady are scheduled to screen a new film called Melania, which focuses, of course, as you can imagine, on the first lady. That screening will happen at the Kennedy center for Performing Arts. In the meantime, President Trump's border czar started the morning off with his first press conference since taking over the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota on Monday. If the message we sent as you.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Enter this country legally, it's a crime, don't worry about it. You can have your due process, show.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Up in court, not show up in.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Court, get ordered, move, don't worry about it. Unless you commit a serious crime, you're good to go. If that's the message we send to.

[Charlie Kirk]

The world, you're never going to fix this problem.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

The Trump administration, with ICE and Secretary.

[Charlie Kirk]

Noem and Marco Rubio and the intelligence community, Tulsi Gabbard, we're all working together.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

To try to identify who these people are. And we've already found many of them. But it's hard work to do. But there are national security threats walking this nation because the last administration.

[Terrance Bates]

In other headlines, the FBI is working to confirm claims from President Trump and others that the 2020 election was fraudulent and stolen. On Wednesday, the feds raided Georgia's Fulton county election hub and operations center under warrants seeking, quote, a number of records related to the 2020 elections. The agents reportedly were looking to seize computers and ballots they believe were held at that facility as part of the investigation into possible election interference. The Trump administration is also asking a federal judge to order Fulton County's court clerk to hand over physical ballots stubs and absentee ballot envelopes from the 2020 general election. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has two more meetings left before his term as the head of the central bank ends. On Wednesday, though, Powell and his colleagues decided once again not to lower interest rates for the time being. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Health Secretary]

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. The cabinet meeting is ongoing. We are here@the Bitcoin.com studio in Phoenix, Arizona. You're one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin. Go to bitcoin.com great partners of the show. We are joined by Senator Mark Wayne Molen from the great state of Oklahoma. Senator, we have much to get to here. I like the hat, Senator. There you go. You're repping it.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

My hair's all messed up, so.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, I love it. As a guy who comes from rancher stock in Nevada, I can appreciate. So we've got, I'm looking at ABC right now, one of the monitors here and it's saying that the Senate funding bill has run into a roadblock here. We've got Schumer making demands about DHS and ice. What can you tell us? Are we going to have a shutdown on Saturday?

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

No.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

So we knew this bill was going to fail, which is why you have seven Republicans that voted against it. We had probably had everybody on the bill but Rand Paul. If we knew it was going to pass. But since it takes 60 votes, who wasn't going to get there. But we, we had to take this vote to be able to get on the bill, to amend it. So this bill basically has to fail before we can amend it. We're going to amend it to, to five appropriation bills and then cr, the dhs, which is a dumb move, Andrew, for the, for the Democrats. I can explain that if you want to get into it what this bill actually does so well, I'll finish the process first. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to amend it to put five bills or two, five appropriation bills. We, we'll do a cr. We're working the time frame on that. Democrats have asked for two weeks. We've asked for six week cr. We'll probably negotiate, end up somewhere around four weeks, who knows. And then we're going to cr. But what is, what does a CR do? It's, this is what's ridiculous is a CR actually spends more money. When dhs, we were actually cutting DHS by a pretty significant amount because the one big beautiful bill put so much money in DHS's account that they're able to move stuff around. So even if this goes into a shutdown, even if they, even if they did shut down and we don't get a CR on dhs, it does nothing to keep, IH ICE or DHS funded it does nothing because they have enough money in their, in their accounts from the one big beautiful bill to actually still pay the officers for almost four years. But what it does shut down is TSA agents. FEMA shuts down the Secret Service and it shuts down the, the Coast Guard. So the thing that they've literally planted their flag on does nothing. And even Patty Murray, who's part of Democrat leadership, came out and said the same thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow. So this is completely performative from the Democrats. They're making ICE their big boogeyman. And so their line in the sand isn't going to touch I, it's not going to touch dhs. It's going to harm Coast Guard, FEMA and tsa. Oh, that's really.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

And Secret Service. And by the way, because, because the, the air traffic controllers allow and control international flights, it'll affect them a little bit. Not like it did during the 43 day shutdown, but it will affect air traffic controllers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Again, it's just so dysfunctional. I mean, you know, this whole ICE DHS fight. By the way, I want to give a shout out to Borders Art Tom Homan. I thought he did a masterful job in his press conference this morning. I thought he set the right tone. He drew a line in the sand. He said, everybody's on the table if you're in this country illegally. So he's not budging on that. But I think from a messaging standpoint, he seems to have succeeded in getting local cooperation from state and local police departments. It's, you know, Jacob Fry, I think is doing a little bit of cutesy dance with the language that he's not. They're not enforcing immigration law. Well, nobody's asking you to do that. Well, we would love you, love for you to do that, but that's not the, that's not what we're talking about. When we have ICE agents and Border Patrol DHS that are under siege, that are getting attacked, we expect you to protect them because they're American citizens. That's your job. And secondly, we want you to hand over criminals at your, at your jails. So it sounds like Borders are. Homan has succeeded in getting concessions on those fronts. We'll see how it plays out. He even said, I'm not, I'm no fool. I'm going to stay here. We're not. We're not. Yeah, but go ahead. You can react to that.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Mayor Fry came out and said that he's not there to enforce immigration laws, federal immigration laws, which is Absurd. Because if you start thinking about that, he doesn't get to pick and choose that it's a federal wall. Now, the city can have their own jurisdiction on what they're going to force on speed limits and what they consider petty crimes, how they want to handle, you know, homeless, how they want to handle robberies, how they can handle all that. But a federal law, they don't get the option to pick and choose. And so he actually has come out publicly and said that. Now, Tom. Tom did a phenomenal job. I mean, for a guy that I think sometimes he gets underestimated because of the way he comes across. The guy was extremely articulate. He. He did, as you said, Andrew, set the exact tone that he needed to set. He wasn't bringing up the temperature, but he wasn't backing up a step. But he was laying out the groundwork of what he's going to perceive moving forward. And he's expecting cooperation. And you're absolutely correct. I thought he did a really, really good job.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and here's the point. Nobody wants people dying. Although we've seen now clips of this Alex Preddy guy who's kicking tail lights, spitting on ice officers and saying, you know, come on, MFers, assault me. I mean, complete antagonist here. A real peach. A real, real peach. Obviously, we don't want anybody to die, but, you know, they're bringing down the temperature. I support that. I suppose as long as we don't budge off the line, that all of these people are subject to deportation. But this is the point. Go ahead.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Yes, I was gonna say, Andrew, they're blaming DHS on this. DHS has been in cities all across the United States working, and this has only happened in Minneapolis. Why has it happened in Minneapolis? It's because of Minneap. Indianapolis leadership. It's not dhs. DHS hasn't changed their tactics. If they want to do something about law enforcement needs to start cooperating with, with DHS. Listen, we did it right here in Washington, D.C. where 90, over 90% of the population, Washington, D.C. voted Democrat. You couldn't get a more liberal city than Washington, D.C. and even the mayor of Washington, D.C. came in and thanked President Trump for putting ice on the street and putting. And putting the National Guard on the streets. And then when you start seeing what happened in Memphis, which seems in New Orleans, which you've seen in St. Louis, which even in Chicago, you didn't see this kind of rhetoric take place. This is happening because. Because Minneapolis leadership is refusing to cooperate and actually working against dhs. If they were doing their job. Listen, ICE wouldn't even be on the streets. ICE would simply be showing up at the detention centers which Tom was talking about, and, and picking up the criminals that they were getting off their street. So if they, if they want ICE off the street, then say you're going to enforce federal law. If you're saying you're not going to enforce federal law, then the federal government is obligated to do so.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, and I think they're hiding behind some pretty well established sanctuary city precedent here. And you know what they consider established legal precedent? I completely agree. I think sanctuary cities are an abomination. They need to be outlawed. But the fine.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

I don't think they're legal to begin with.

[Charlie Kirk]

I completely agree. But what they are, what they, they distinguish between not impeding versus cooperating, not enforcing you. So, so now Tom Homan was saying that they're going to get the concession is that they're going to hand over illegals that have a detention request for them. So they're going to out of the, some of their jails. So we'll see if that happens. It's as simple as that though, because everybody gives Obama all this credit for all these deportations. Well, well, truth be told, about 80% of the deportations under Obama were just handovers. They just handed them off at the jails because we didn't have this militarized, aggressive sanctuary city culture during the Obama years. And plus he's a Democrat, so they cooperated. Want to get really quickly cuz Blake and I were talking about this in the break and that was the SAVE Act. We had a big movement here where Senator Thune, Leader Thune is now saying he's in favor of it. But you are the co author, I believe, of this bill. But does this, is this, can this get us over the finish line? I mean, I know it's going back to the House. It's getting edited, it's getting amended. Can we get enough?

[Blake]

No bs. Is there any hope for this? Would the Senate ever abolish the filibuster to pass it?

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Yeah. So first of all, Blake, you should try cowboy hat. It wouldn't hurt. Sorry, man, I give you a hard time. Second of all, Thune was always for it. He just wasn't out, out in front. You got to remember, he's got to be, he's got to walk a delegate line because he, he has to represent everybody in our conference and so he never wants to get out in front of our conference. It, it took a little bit of back and forth for over. You think that the majority of our conference would sponsor this just like this? It didn't happen that way. We had to go through some of the process to get there. The only way I think this gets over the finish line, Andrew, is if. If would probably have to do in the fact that we've got rid of the filibuster and in some form. I don't think we could ever get 60 votes on this. Now you could see where the political wind may change. But the Democrats are, you know, they. They don't want anybody have to have any ID to vote. They want anybody to show up and not even have to prove that they're even live in the district or in the precinct or they're a U.S. citizen. They just want everybody's military.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I totally agree. What would. What. So, because I've seen it floated that they're, you know, the nuking the filibuster for appropriations or funding bills. Is there an. Is there something you could do in a limited window that maybe thune would find palatable? You know, maybe it's about immigration or voting integrity. Is there some category that you could exempt?

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

I think it's more likely to be on funding. Remember, we did this with judges, so this isn't new. In 2017 with Mitch McConnell, we did it for the JUD. Also changed the rules in 1975. We changed them in 1917. We changed them in 1807. So the Senate can change it. If we were to do it, it would have to go through funding because there would be funding that would be. That would have to be made available for it because we'd have to work with the states to get the proper ID for them to do it, or it had to be a real id. My argument is, is I don't think it would cost us $1 because the real ID is already considered a federal ID. So as long as you had a photo ID that was a real ID that was a driver's license or an ID that you get, I think it works. But more than likely, this would be part of a funding bill which could take place possibly when we start doing FY. FY27, which is because FY26 is almost over. We've got all the appropriation bills. I mean, the House has already did all 12, which is amazing for them to do. We're about ready to do 11, have only one holdover. FY27. If we were find ourselves lead into a shutdown before the primary, this could absolutely be part of the. Part of the discussion it would be to, to drop the filibuster on appropriations and then the SAVE act could be part of it.

[Charlie Kirk]

So just to be clear, would that be in time for the midterms?

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Depends on how it was written because technically, yes, because the FY26 funding runs out September 30th, so we start the new fiscal year October 1st. So if we did it in September 30th, that is more than enough time for the November election to have to have availability to do it. Now, there's a lot of what ifs in this, Andrew, because it would have to be that the Democrats are moving us to a shutdown. So if they're moving us to our shutdown to avoid a shutdown, timing is the most important thing we could ever have because moving to a shutdown would but be devastating for us in the midterm. So there would be a lot of people that want to avoid that. So that's when the filibuster narrowly changing for appropriations only could work.

[Charlie Kirk]

Got to take a quick break here. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back. We're gonna move quick here with Senator Mullen. I want to, I want to finish this last thought, though, just before we move on to the next topic. Would the states then sue? So say we get it in this appropriate or the funding bill starting October 1st. I mean, that's, that's like a month before midterms. Would they sue? I mean, what. This could get very messy.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Well, they could because Mellon ballots, early voting, some of that starts with prior to that. So they, they, I think they probably could. We could get into litigation. You know, the Democrats immediately would put a stay. They'd get some liberal guy on a bench that would put a stay on it. But I, I don't, I, I think you could tighten the language up enough that you could move it forward prior to that happening. There's a lot to this, Andrew, because we, for instance, mail out ballots need to go out 45 days before the election for the, for deployed troops. And so, but they're, they obviously have the right to vote. So the, the thing you could do it on is in person voting.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Or when you walk in to hand the ballot. Some of the stuff would be litigated through that bms. But it's possible.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, I think it's, I think it's worth having that fight. Let's get messy.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think, you know, okay, Senator, we're gonna move on here. Trump accounts. President Trump did a big thing about this. Why I want to make it a big thing Turning Point has for our staff at Turning Point USA. Turning Point Action is going to be contributing $1,000 to all newborn kids from our staff. By the way, we got which we've got a bunch of pregnant ladies running around here. So like this is going to be an expensive promise. Erica Kirk announced this and why I love this is we have this clip from Charlie. I went and dug through and found it this morning because I was supposed to do a Fox and Friends hit myself about it. Got pushed because of the Homan thing. But Charlie loved this idea. 436 this could change the game and make people capitalists.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

At age 7, I could imagine a bunch of 9 and 10 year olds being like, hey, our stock is up today. By the way, if you win a spelling bee, they could be like, hey, I'm gonna put 25 bucks into your Invest America account if you win a sports championship. It's a way where moms, dads, grandfathers, companies, employers, you can tokenize this. Where kids can actually then save their entire childhood and have something to point forward to and be co owners in America, not just renters.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're a capitalist, you're a business owner. How big of a, of a, of a move is this? What a great idea. Charlie loved it. Tell us about, tell us about it.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

I think it's huge. You know, my son just got married and then over the holidays we got. He said that he was. I say just got married. He got married before Thanksgiving. But then over the holidays he. They said they had a unexpected pregnancy. Right. And most kids when they get younger or when they get married younger, I say kids, my kids are younger, but they don't have money to put in a savings account. And if you can imagine you put a thousand dollars in and if you don't put another penny in and you keep that set there invested until you're able to draw Social Security, you'll have over $2 million in it and your payment will be more than Social Security. So not only are is the president saying, hey, Social Security is. Isn't actually the best idea for just retirement, but let's go ahead and set them up for success. But, but God forbid something happens when you're 18, 19, 20 or 25 or 30 and you have to grab it because of some expected ordeal it gives you and it gives you the ability to have something to fall back on. When most people, especially young people, they don't have a nest egg to fall back on. This is, this allows you to make choices for your future. And learns and it teaches you how to be responsible. We did the same thing with our kids, my wife and I. We didn't have kids until we were later. Then they wouldn't stop. Then, you know, I end up with six kids. But the, but we started investing in an account for them. My 22 year old son today called me about buying additional stock to invest in his account that he already has because he doesn't want to touch it because he sees it growing. That's, that's a lot. There's a lot of ownership inside this. And of course, leave it up to President Trump, who's a business guy, Charlie Kirk, who's a business guy that can see the future in this. When, you know, Democrats, you know, they can't argue against it, but I bet you they would if they could.

[Charlie Kirk]

If they could. Yeah. You know what's crazy about this though? Charlie was all about making sure the next generation wasn't radicalized, wasn't just, I mean, he wanted them to have skin in the game in America. Investors in the in America saw this as a way to do it. So if you fully fund one of these accounts, so you get $1,000 seed money and then you fund it with parents, grandparents, spelling bees, championships, philanthropists, which is $5,000 a year by the time they're 21, according to S and P trends over the years, it could be worth between 400 and $500,000 for a 21 year old. And get this, if you hold the principal till 28 because of compound interest, because then you're really gaining momentum, it could be worth $1.9 million. This or they have it 1.09, but I looked it up. The treasury has it up to 1.9. This is, is, this is a huge, huge potential. I don't know, Blake, if you wanted.

[Blake]

To weigh this, I'm just thinking about how in 18 years we might have some irresponsible people like blowing their Trump.

[Charlie Kirk]

Money on one thing like cars.

[Blake]

And they'll make a stupid social game post about it.

[Charlie Kirk]

They could.

[Blake]

There will be the split between people who blew their money and people who used it responsibly. Like there is, Blake.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Here's the thing on that is when the first time most people go bust, they go bankrupt, they learn from it. And so when they waste money like that, the next time they start accumulating it. Because if you've done it once, sometimes you feel like you can do it again. There's motivation to do it again because you know it's possible when you don't know what's possible. You don't know what stars to reach towards. And so even those that. That fail because they go blow it on something stupid, that'll be a life lesson at 28 rather than at 58.

[Charlie Kirk]

Senator, last topic. And then we got two minutes here, so gotta go quick. 461, Bruce Springsteen comes out, the new song. And I just. I'm so infuriated by it. 461.

[Donald Trump]

Streets of Minneapolis.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so he said, says he's gonna. They've been roaming and killing, and they're gonna remember the names of Renee Goode and Alex Preddy, the people who died. And it just occurs to me, what about. Where's the song for Jocelyn Nungri? Where's the song for Rachel Moran? Where's the song for Lake and Riley? The selective outrage just absolutely infuriates me. And I'm so ticked off about it because it's just pure propaganda.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

I didn't know Bruce was still relevant.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's not.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

So I. I don't really care. I mean, the guy is so ridiculous. He doesn't represent any values that the. The America believes in today. And so to me, I never. Never liked his songs anyways. He's just every. Even more irrelevant to me now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake's a huge.

[Blake]

I'm a big hit. No, I'm a big hater. No, it's just.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's.

[Blake]

It shows the. They very much have. They all just really wish it was still 1962. They all want to be writing protest anthems to overthrow Jim Crow. And the truth is, we got rid of that a half century ago, thank goodness.

[Charlie Kirk]

Would you call it civil rights? It's like envy.

[Blake]

It's civil rights envy. Yeah, it's like we got rid of that more than half a century ago, thank goodness. And they've just been trying to recapture it ever since. And it comes at the cost of just labeling America an evil country, which it's clearly not.

[Charlie Kirk]

And our brave men and women in ice, man, I just. They. That is such a tough job. Screw this guy. Honestly, Absolute garbage. Human.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

So, I mean, you're upset that ICE is doing their job? I mean, they're literally doing their job. They're enforcing federal law. And you're upset by that? I don't. I don't understand it, but I think absolutely.

[Charlie Kirk]

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from the great state of Oklahoma. Thank you, Senator. We have your back. We'll. We'll talk to you again soon. Hour two coming up next.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Hello? I can hear you.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Welcome.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Our two is underway. We are joined in studio by the voice you just heard. Pastor Andrew Sedra, you are lead pastor of Echo Church in Sydney, Australia.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The socialist, gay Islamic state on the other side of the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that's my first question. Is Australia fake and gay?

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

It is. Very gay, very liberal, very nice. We have very good coffee down there.

[Charlie Kirk]

Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches. Yeah, really, honestly, a beautiful, like a beautiful people and a beautiful culture. And you've got the Australian Open happening right now.

[Blake]

And that's the saddest thing about it, though, is if you take Australia, you could say this big country is basically perfect. It's not overpopulated. It has endless natural resources. Everyone can live like happily ever after. But then they thought, how could we mess this up? Why don't we. Well, we're going to talk about that here. Why don't we Import problems?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, we have. Listen, we've got whatever problems Australia has, maybe not proportionally per capita, but we have just as many and millions more. So I want to start with a provocative question here, though, because you are a pastor. And we will get to Australia in just a second. But the left is turning Alex Preddy and Renee Goode, you're aware of these stories, into martyrs. Yeah, I believe Charlie is a martyr. He's a Christian martyr. He's a freedom of speech martyr, an American martyr. What is the difference between, let's say, an activist that does something stupid, gets themselves into a situation, Maybe the cops, maybe it wasn't the best shot. I'm willing to concede that ground, but they obviously were provoking and they were obstructing law enforcement. What's the difference between a martyr and a jihadist?

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

The reality is a jihadist dies for the sake of his political agenda. And like Charlie Kirk died for faith, family, freedom. It was very clear boundaries and reality. He didn't die trying to stop a police. He didn't try die trying to shoot a police. He didn't try, try to obstruct law force and order. He died for faith. He was literally proclaiming his faith a few minutes before about resurrection of Jesus Christ. He died for freedom. You could clearly see the church. He literally got shot while speaking. And he died for family. That's kind of the most controversial. But the problem is we have at the moment because people have lost a moral conscience. We are putting all things together and creating all the things without actually realizing what did the actual person die for? We need to actually understand and they died for believing the world is this big, happy safe space where there's no nations, there's no boundaries, there's no borders, which if you're Christian, you can't really believe that. We do believe in boundary donations. So we really have to look at the cause and the. Because of the martyrdom in order to understand and more than anything, what was happening the moment they got murdered. Charlie Kirk was literally speaking in a microphone, trying to debate his ideas. Those people are doing crazy things, creating complexity in an already volatile space. So we do need to teach people to gain the moral conscious. Because you saw, even with George Floyd, like George Floyd was a criminal committing a crime, he died in the process of committing a crime. How do you put Charlie and George Floyd or the people that were like Black Lives Matter, but it was very controversial for them to speak about Charlie Kirk's death. It makes you wonder. It's like people need to really recalibrate the moral conscience and definitions in order to realize what is a matter and what is the jihadist. And we have now the gay jihadist, the immigration jihadist, that Islamic. You have every type of jihadist now.

[Charlie Kirk]

And by the way, just because the reason I framed it that way for people who aren't familiar with your background, is you specialize in calling out the dangers of Islam. So give your backstory and why that is a central message for you.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Yeah, so I grew up in the Islamic world of Egypt under soft Sharia law. So Sharia law is a thing. It's in every single Islamic state in the whole entire world. The 54 of them, they have Sharia law. So unlike what a conservatives will tell you, Sharia law is a conspiracy. I wish it was. It's not. That's why I literally, my family escaped the Islamic world of Egypt because of apostasy laws and because of blasphemy laws.

[Charlie Kirk]

True story.

[Blake]

I visited Egypt and I found a book in a bookstore in Luxor and it was some professor and it is very beautiful. And a professor argued, it was a book he wrote, arguing that Egypt showed the model way for Christians and Muslims to coexist. But I guess you probably wouldn't agree with him, would you?

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Coexist, Coexist, exist. Well, when Islam says peace, they mean war. When they say equality, they mean Islamic supremacy. When Islam says freedom, they mean tyranny. That's why them and the left, they're like the best buddies to get married, you know, Quiz for Palestine, gays for Gaza. Or you can see now the.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Red Green Alliance.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

It's perfect because both of Them lose use language to not communicate, but to manipulate. So they're going to use your language, your vocabulary, your ideology. Like, for example, this is one of the most controversial things. People say American Muslim. As someone who escaped the Islamic world, saying American Muslim is an oxymoron. It's like saying trans woman a woman. Or start saying men can get pregnant. America is about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Islam is about death, tyranny and jihad. That is the theological conquering and conquering.

[Charlie Kirk]

Which is, I guess jihad.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

So the big question I think we have at the moment coming from the Middle East. So I escaped Islam to the Western world to come here to find them rising, taking over and running a propaganda campaign. Islam means peace. I'm like, what then? Why am I here to begin with? And I think this is kind of my warning to America, particularly the conservatives that are unable to actually understand what's happening in the Islamic world. I will tell Americans America is an exceptional country, but make sure American exceptionalism doesn't become American narcissism. Where you look at Israel or the Middle east or all the Islamic world through the lens of Christendom. You have to look at Islam through the lens of Islam, not project your American lovey dovey like George Bush did. We're gonna free Iraq. I'm like, dude, Muslims don't want freedom in Iraq. The problem you have, you want their freedom, they don't want them. So even if you remove whatever Islamic secular dictator, they're gonna vote for a worse dictator.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, this is this idea of tabula rasa, right, where all of humanity are blank slates. Their culture that they were steeped in as a kid no longer matters. We can make them lovers of democracy. We can spread democracy. And the lesson of the 21st century is that that is a giant, huge propaganda lie. You're being gaslit to think that people, their cultures and their religions do not matter. That they can be assimilated into a western frame of reference and a frame of mind. No. And this is actually, I would say I'm still working this out. But you know, Charlie, I think had it completely worked out. The west is Christendom. The west is Christendom. So when you look at who you want to come into your country, if you are a western nation, even if you are not a believer, even if you hate Christianity, you are blessed by the culture of Christianity, by our laws, by the customs, by the turns of phrases, by our language, by everything about this culture that you love is undergirded by a Christian heritage. And so please.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Freedom is fundamentally the Christian concept. It's not a gay concept, it's not a liberal concept, it's not an American concept. It's fundamentally a Christian concept. The Bible said and you'll know the truth and the truth will set you free. There is no coincidence why America and the Western world are the only nations with that dictators. The Buddhist world is not free. The Islamic world is not free. The pagan world is not free. The communist godless, government worshipping world is not free. America, you have to understand what makes you is Christendom. So the problem we have at the moment, we are importing people from the Islamic world that believe in Quran Sharia law. And no matter how moderate of a Muslim you are, you still don't believe in freedom. So Egypt is a very moderate Muslim country. Like you don't just get killed on the street, but we have apostasy laws which should decide if a Muslim becomes a Christian, they go to jail for five to eight years. That's also in Qatar. That's also in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia actually.

[Blake]

But a Christian can become a Muslim easily.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Exactly. Because all about Islamic supremacy. When Islam say freedom they mean tyranny. When they, when they say equality they love to use that word here. Ilhan Omar and the Somalian crowd 99.999 Muslim they mean Islamic supremacy. So no matter where you go in the whole entire world, freedom is fundamentally a Christian concept. It's Charlie Kirk nailed it. Islam will be the sword that he literally posted that one day from before. And I do think America needs to re recalibrate that so you don't lose land of the free and home of the brave.

[Blake]

It's so bizarre because you look at the Middle east and and Islam is declining in some of those countries and then the fundamentalism is rising in the west and it start straight up feels like they've exported a lot of fundamentalists. And you'll hear the worst preachers in London, not in Riyadh necessarily. We have a break here, but we'll continue through the breaks and we will keep on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

We'll be right back.

[Charlie Kirk]

So this concept that you know, like I said, God numbers our days. God knew and I believe God was speaking to Charlie and Charlie was focusing on the rise of Islam. And you, you mentioned that haunting tweet where he says, you know, Islam is.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

That was the day before the assassination. It was a prophetic picture of what is yet to happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Crazy. Secondly, he was talking about this fork in the road mangionism and mamdanism versus Maga. Maga. Right. And so please expound on that because you see this in Australia as well.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

It's happening. That socialist, liberal, godless left could not really shift and change the culture as they wish. So they had to import the votes from the end of the world. They found a perfect alliance between Islam and socialism, between violent Islam and godless leftism. And that unholy alliance is a friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. We can clearly see Zohram Bip Thani is an Muslim who is quiz for Palestine. Whose gays for Gaza where if you take those gays together they will not be alive for very, very long. Wrong. But that alliance hinges on the reality. Islam and godless leftism. It hates Christianity because it hates freedom. It hates freedom and that is the reason it hates America and it hates success.

[Blake]

It's like so resentful at how great of a country America has been, how great the west has been. And that's kind of, I think, the great thing that binds them together when they have so many rational reasons to hate each other. It's this, it's this resentment driven ideology. Why does Islam despise the West? Islam sees itself as a warrior religion. It's founded in warfare. Muhammad is a warrior. The early Muslims are warriors and they win. They win over and over.

[Charlie Kirk]

Except they in Europe, but they made it.

[Blake]

They spread all over the world overnight. It's, you can understand how they would say God must have done this because we conquered. And then for the last 600 years they've just been getting wrecked over and over again. They fell behind. So they're very upset about this. And they, it's the same way that this is why they hate Israel so much. Israel just beats them in every conflict.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Ever because they're just better science and technology.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

And Islam is a very better science.

[Blake]

Better technology and a better society. They fight better.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, sorry, I mean to interrupt.

[Blake]

And so that's the Islamic half and then you have the Marxist half which is that it's, it's that classic biolenism thing. It's a lot of people, they're, they're resentful. Why am I not in charge of things? Why am I not super wealthy? Why do I have to have a job and work, Work there it's this screaming rage of people who see a like functional middle class family and they can't handle it and they go off the deep end.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know it just occurred to me, the humility of a capitalist system, the humility that is willing to say we are not going to try and engineer the results. That we understand hierarchies are inevitable, right? That we understand. You know, people born at the same position with the same parents are going to end up in different places.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

If you don't work, you don't engage. As Winston Churchill said, socialism is a gospel of envy. And I love Charlie's favorite four words, earn it. Capitalism is the gospel of earnout. If you don't work, you don't eat. The Bible said, a man who doesn't work and doesn't provide for his family, he's worse than an unbeliever. But that's the problem. People want results without work. They want the fruit without the pathway. So you end up with this very utopian gospel, the gospel of socialism. And dude, you guys need to look at Australia because we're socialist. Yeah, we're socialists all the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

So you don't need like a visit.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

The thing is about America, you don't need to trial stuff. You already have Europe, you already have uk, you already have France, and you already have Sydney. So Sydney, we're the second most expensive first world country state to live in in the whole entire world. We're more expensive than Hong Kong. So in Australia we have 275 acres per person. So it's a lot of land. As you said, we are very resourceful. We have uranium, we have cobalt, we have minerals. We have everything in the whole entire world that we literally have now a socialist government, it's literally sucking up the economy dry. The average house is 13.5, the average wage house in Australia, you need 30 years to save for the house. Why can't you?

[Blake]

I feel like Australia should be able to build houses. It seems like they have space.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Socialism is ugly. So the difference between us and America, after World War II, we took the welfare state road. America took the capitalism, free market, work hard, make it happen. Wall Street Journal, New York. Paradoxically enough, it's run by socialists now. You guys took the hard work road. We took the welfare state, big government, socialism road, us in England and now we're at the end of it. You can't build anything, you can't do anything. You can't buy a house. The fuel here is everything in America is very cheap. We get taxed 45% of your income.

[Blake]

The big topic here is affordability and inflation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hold on. We get taxed too though. Really bad. No, but it's. But it's. Then, okay, but if you're in California, then you might have another. If you're the top bracket, you might have another 13%. So essentially, and in America, I think.

[Blake]

That what there is really bad is the sense that your taxes go to services you 100% can't use. So if you're in a huge portion of America, you pay a large amount of taxes for public schools, and the public schools are functionally unusable to you if you are a responsible parent. And then you pay the double tax of often private schooling.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, by the way, that's beyond your income tax. That is a property tax.

[Blake]

Property tax.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then you got property tax on top of income tax or state taxes.

[Blake]

To subsidize public transport that you feel is unsafe to use or. And then never mind all the, you know, infinity Somali daycares, infinity autism centers.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Straight up Australia, everything is for free. It's. It's not. But this is the reality. And that's where Christendom provide the framework. If God asks people for 10 of their income, how dare the government ask for 30 to 50%? This is why the more America drives away from Christendom, the more taxation you will have. Godlessness produces atheism. Atheism produces Darwinism. Darwinism in politics becomes socialism because you need to help the little monkey that can't help himself because the big guy, the big corporate guy is the lion that's controlling the jungle. So we kind of need to make the system equitable. So the reality is the more America goes away from church, the more taxation you're going to have and the more governmental, unethical, immoral spending. And we're watching that in Australia, the less church attendance. Our church attendance In Australia, it's 5%, in America, 30%. The less people go to church, the more taxes we get. There is a correlation between socialism and atheism, Christianity and low taxation. Because in Christianity we believe in self government, individual liberty. It's your money. If you don't work, you don't eat. We believe that we want families to own homes. We want young people to build wealth. The Bible said a godly person leaves inheritance for the generation. We don't want to tax people's wealth. We want families that work hard to build their wealth pass their legacy from generation to generation. So the reality is we need a recalibration of our economical philosophical system to realize if God asks for 10%, I believe anything beyond 10% from governor theft.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree. And I think that what we've seen, especially with the Somali fraud rings, is that the more you bloat your government, the more you grow it, the more bad actors are gonna come in and they're gonna, they're gonna bilk you. They're gonna, they're gonna the graft will just grow and increase. And I mean, I completely agree with the less churched, the more socialist. It's a complete correlation, by the way. The less church, the less children, the less marriages, the less, you know, businesses, candidly. So I'm with you 100%. I wanted to ask you about Iran. Maybe we'll go a little bit in the break here for podcasts and ask you about Iran as well. And then we've actually got some Turning Point USA high school students joining us at the second half of this hour to get their perspective. We'll be right back.

[Terrance Bates]

Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break. We appreciate you being here. It's been a very busy day for President Trump as he spent the morning receiving an intelligence briefing and then hosting a Cabinet meeting. You're looking at that Cabinet meeting here this evening. The president and first lady are scheduled to screen a new film called Melania, which focuses, of course, as you can imagine, on the first lady. That screening will happen at the Kennedy center for Performing Arts. In the meantime, President Trump's border czar started the morning off with his first press conference since taking over the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota on Monday. If the message we send is you.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Enter this country illegally, it's a crime, don't worry about it.

[Charlie Kirk]

You can have your due process, show.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Up in court, not show up in.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Court, get ordered, move, don't worry about it. Unless you commit a serious crime, you're good to go. If that's the message we sent to.

[Charlie Kirk]

The world, you're never going to fix this problem.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

The Trump administration, with ICE and, and.

[Charlie Kirk]

Secretary Noem and Marco Rubio in the.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Intelligence community, Tulsi Gabbard, we're all working together to try to identify who these.

[Charlie Kirk]

People are, and we've already found many of them.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

But it's hard work to do. But there are national security threats walking this nation because the last administration.

[Terrance Bates]

In other headlines, the FBI is working to confirm claims from President Trump and others that the 2020 election was fraudulent and stolen. On Wednesday, the feds raided Georgia's Fulton county election hub and operations center under warrants seeking, quote, a number of records related to the 2020 elections. The agents reportedly were looking to seize computers and ballots they believe were held at that facility as part of the investigation into possible election interference. The Trump administration is also asking a federal judge to order Fulton County's court clerk to hand over physical ballots, stubs and absentee ballot envelopes from the 2020 general election. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has two more meetings left before his term as the head of the central bank ends. On Wednesday, though, Powell and his colleagues decided once again not to lower interest rates for the time being. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

The hardest working radio show in the.

[Health Secretary]

Business, the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Charlie Kirk]

The all right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two continues. I want to quickly tell you about our friends over at good ranchers. Goodranchers.com we're celebrating 250 years of this republic and we're proud to be American. Who else is proud to be American? Good ranchers. And why I love them is not only are they a great product because they are a phenomenal product and just a little secret, they're way better than when they started, when now they have, they're huge. They have buying power to buy the best meats, meats from the best cuts, best ranches. They didn't have that luxury at the beginning, but now they do and it's they're amazing. So you're getting top quality American raised beef, chicken, pork, all whatever you want. They even have fish. What else is great is it's all American sourced. And even that, that's down to the call center if you need help with one of your orders as well as the seal on the box. Everything is American. So please support them as they support this country. Ben and Corley Spell are amazing patriots, great Christians. They run a phenomenal business and they support this show and they've stuck by our side through thick and thin. So we just love these people. Great product, great American product. So go to goodranchers.com, use the promo code Charlie and subscribe. So if you subscribe, you're going to save a lot of money, up to $500 a year on your beef, chicken, pork. And got to check out the chicken nuggets. Seed oil free chicken nuggets, the only seed oil free product on the market for chicken nuggets. Kids love those. So if you have kids at home, make sure you throw that into your subscription. Again, that is goodranchers.com and promo code Charlie. All right, so we have some amazing students that have joined us. We have Haley Ron Canyon, Delpro Club American president, Emma Arms, University of Tennessee, Knoxville President, Edward I'm going to say this wrong. Bokie, I believe Minnesota Connection Academy and Inver Hills Community College and Caroline Maddox, University of Georgia president. Welcome to the show to our students. Hello there hey, thank you. Hi.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

How's it going?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's going great. So listen, we like to do these segments from time to time because hearing from students is really important. Get your perspective on where you're at, what you're thinking, what you're seeing. So I'm going to start with Edward. This is Minnesota Connection Academy at Inver Hills Community College. A lot of the news right now is about ice. It's about dhs, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Tell me what your thoughts are on. It would be Alex Preddy. So he's packing firearm. He initiates an altercation, a confrontation of some sorts with. With law enforcement. Do you think that's a good idea? What are kids saying? What are you thinking? Well, thank you, Andrew, for having me on. I really appreciate it and I appreciate the question. Simple answer. It's a terrible idea to start an altercation with firearm on you. I recently turned 18. I've been carrying every day since that, since my birth date. And I am never going to pick a fight with law enforcement with my firearm on me. It's a terrible idea in the first place because these people are the good guys. They are the ones preserving the cohesion of our society and upholding law and order. And those are not the people that you should be starting an altercation with. It's going to be degratory to the.

[Blake]

Cohesion of our republic.

[Charlie Kirk]

But then you add to that the betrayal of your second amendment liberties by putting law enforcement in a situation where they have to treat you as a greater threat given you have a firearm and you're attempting to and actually creating escalated physical altercation.

[Blake]

It's a terrible idea all around.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I was disappointed to see that Alex Preddy absolutely has a second amendment right to keep and bear arms and a first Amendment right to peacefully assemble. And you can exercise both those rights together. But he betrayed those liberties by starting an altercation with those law enforcement officers.

[Blake]

Thank you. So I want to throw a question here to Haley. First of all, thank you for coming on. I know you have to be. It can be very nerve wracking because you're the high schooler here. So you're at Canyon Del Oro in the Tucson. In Tucson. The Tucson area. And I'm told you've been seeing anti ICE walkouts in your. Is it in your school itself? You can tell me. And then that there's been, I guess just describe the environment in a high school setting right now regarding ice, regarding walkouts, regarding immigration generally.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

Yeah. So our school personally has not had a walkout yet, but there's Definitely like in a lot of other schools, those have happened just around Tucson, Arizona themselves. And then especially at my school cdo, we just got Club America approved. And it's been a big issue at school and everything just things are super heightened. And I think a big issue right now just with high school students is a lot of it. People are trying to frame it as civic engagement when really it's more. A lot of what they're doing is just activism without any understanding. So a lot of people are seeing this Club America, this Instagram post that we posted, just welcoming a new club, letting people be aware that this is happening. And just the amount of just rude, uneducated hate comments dms I've gotten just. Just the gossip around school of what's going on.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

It's.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

These people haven't even given it a chance. They don't even know really what this is about. We haven't even had our first meeting yet. And all these people are just giving so much hate and they just don't even.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

Most of them are not even educated. They don't even know what's going on. And so I think that's just been a big. Is a lot of just teachers and staff as well, just kind of empowering these students, framing it, manipulating it as like civic engagement, when really I just think it's just activism without any understanding.

[Blake]

So is it just. Is there any. Is the school just overtly endorsing this? Are the teachers all overtly endorsing it? What's the. I guess, for lack of a better term, what's the propaganda environment like within your school?

[Haley Ron Canyon]

Yeah, so I definitely. A lot of issues that even came with starting Club America was actually through the teachers. There were a lot of teachers who I had conversations with that just were not on board with this and are telling our students just that this is not. This is like a hateful thing that's going on. It's not something that we should be having. So a lot of it definitely starts with our staff and starts with our teachers and just not even giving us as students our own voice and our own opinion, but just shutting it down because they're in a position of authority. And a lot of students are like us.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

We.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

We rely on those teachers for grades and we have future ahead of us for college. So we really don't want to upset the people who are kind of hold that authority over us. So I think a lot of students are just following what the staff. What authority is telling us. And so, yeah, just mainly with the staff just not allowing us, just thinking. It's a terrible thing. I know. Tucson Unified School District even just sent out a message, the superintendent saying that they may have to cancel school tomorrow because. Because too many teachers are calling out for this protest against ice. Just things like that where it's like, really, we have no control over what's going on because they hold the position. They hold the authority at our schools.

[Charlie Kirk]

Haley, I'm so. You know, I'm bummed out to hear that. I'm sad for you, but I'm proud of you as well. I'm very proud of you. So keep up the good fight and keep your courage. But I want to throw it to Pastor Andrew, Cedric, maybe just give her a word of encouragement as they're facing this pushback.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

You guys are amazing. You guys are fighting the good fight. Your guys are leading by conviction and courage. Just like Charlie Kirk will live in a moment of time. Or the left doesn't multiply in the bedroom. They multiply in the classroom, as they always do. And it is very encouraging watching you guys stand for your faith, stand for your freedom, and actually be like Daniel Shadrach, Michigan, Abednego. Have faith. In the midst of a culture where young people are fundamentally indoctrinated. Good job. You gotta. Gonna be very amazing leaders that would change the world. The fact that you are able to go against the grain, not go with the next social justice hype, it means that you have the potential and the anointing and the gift and the character to lead this nation to a very, very, very great player. So I want to encourage you, and I do think we need to kind of. We need an investigation across the west to the indoctrination of young people.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Because it's. Well, it doesn't make sense.

[Charlie Kirk]

We've observed. Observed, you know, in the wake of Charlie's assassination, and we've seen it now. Some comments made about Stephen Miller, about ICE agents. It's public school teachers and nurses and sometimes doctors. I don't know what it is, but.

[Blake]

There'S just a lot of them.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's two professions. There's just. Yeah. You might just be a sheer numbers. Numbers game.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

So liberal empathy, nurturing of womanized type of roles, going in the wrong direction to think that your kid is their kid.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

It's like, I want my kid to learn math and science, not gay agenda, immigration and politics. And that's why I think Charlie was murdered, because he was literally changing the mind.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Of these young people. I want his agenda.

[Blake]

I want to loop in our other two chapter heads, or I believe they're both chapter heads, I don't know. So Caroline or Emma here, either of you can take this. You guys are on again, college campuses. We saw last year there was a big swing of young people more towards sympathy, towards mega, towards President Trump, towards the message Charlie was selling. We also see some evidence in the polls there might be a swing back. They're very mercurial. And so either of you can take this. What is the environment you're seeing on campus both overall and within more conservative spaces? How are those students reacting to it? Do they seem to braver than you might have expected? Are they getting intimidated like they might have been a few years ago?

[Haley Ron Canyon]

I don't think there's a lot of intimidation here in Tennessee. Luckily enough, we are a primarily conservative campus at the University of Tennessee. And most of Tennessee also is red throughout. We don't see ICE officers being shot in Nashville. We're actually seeing dropping numbers of murders in Memphis. And that's mainly because we are a state that's not a sanctuary. We're not accepting migrants from illegal migrants to stay and exist in our state illegally. So the students, however, have overwhelmingly let me know that they do not support having illegals in our country. They are fully in support of ice. We do sometimes see some students who sort of stay behind the screen that would promote attacking ice, but we haven't seen anything in Knoxville or the greater Tennessee area that would prove that.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's so Caroline as well, right? University of Georgia. So we got Knoxville and Georgia. I love it.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

Athens is a little bit of a different scene right now. I think we're seeing a lot of walkouts from classes, a lot of protests in the downtown area. Students are not taking well to that scene in Minneapolis right now at all. We have a lot of support for ICE as a club in general, but outside of the club, there's not a lot of support for ICE on this campus at all.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what prop, like what are the. What messages are they hearing? Where are they getting this information? Maybe just fill in some of the gaps there. What's influencing these people?

[Haley Ron Canyon]

It seems like most of the information is coming from misinformation on social media. They see the clip video, they don't see the full video. They see kind of what they want to see instead of actually seeing and learning and educating themselves and doing the research. I think we've also painted this picture of ICE for them or other people have as this super evil organization that's ripping children from their homes. And ripping families apart, and that's just not the case. And I think we really have to do a better job of educating people on what ICE actually is and what they're actually doing. But, I mean, the scene here is really discouraging. But I would say there's so much support on campus for Charlie's legacy, and a lot of people have really started to want to get involved after the passing of Charlie, Kurt and I. It's truly inspiring, and there's a lot of work here to do, but I'm. I'm really glad to be at the forefront of it and really blessed.

[Charlie Kirk]

Caroline, we got to take a break. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back, everybody. We've got Haley, Emma, Edward, Caroline, our students from across the country, chapter leaders. We've got three college students and one high school. Let's go around the horn really quick. I want to start back with you, Edward, and just if. Okay, we've got. This is a midterm year, so, you know, I'm going to talk politics, but this is your personal opinion. This is not C3 stuff, but personal opinion. So you're on campus. If you had a word for the administration heading into the midterms or candidates that are running, what are young kids? What do they care about on your campus? What could the conservative movement do better right now? Awesome. Well, thank you for the question. I think from what I've seen and the people that I'm associating with, it.

[Blake]

Goes back to James Carville.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's the economy, stupid. We want to make sure that the economy's strong going into midterms, and then that's. That's pretty much the. The biggest issue going into midterms that students want to. So it's make sure strong. It's jobs. Yeah. When you graduate kind of thing, internships, opportunities, feeling like your degree is going to matter, Kind of. There's some worry about the AI bubble and the potential for greater inflation moving into midterms. So if we could put some assurance surrounding the Federal Reserve and taxation and making sure that inflation is going to remain low, those are the core points that students on campus in Minnesota that I've interacted with are worrying about right now. Haley, what about you, high school student going into the midterms? What's the vibe?

[Haley Ron Canyon]

Yeah, I wouldn't even say really, that a lot of our students are even educated enough to really care. I think a lot of the things that they're talking about are just like things that they're just hearing on the Internet. But I would say right now in high school especially is just immigration, like what we've been seeing recently and just how a bunch of us younger students who may not be as educated are just rejecting law enforcement. And, and I guess how we can kind of push back on that and how we can be educated on, you know, that we can be in support of legal immigration and then also recognize that fighting against law enforcement is not the right thing to do and that interfering with them doing their jobs is only going to create this chaos that we're seeing and that really these shootings that are happening are not just one sided and that something, something is going on behind the scenes to kind of affect what's going on in the immigration.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a good insight. That's a really good insight. So Caroline, you're at the University of Georgia and you said there's all these like walkouts and a lot of anti ICE energy. I mean, do they remember Lake and Riley at the University of Georgia? Is she still some person that people are talking about there? Because I wonder how they square that circle or circle.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

That's exactly the question a lot of us are asking right now. At Turning Point, they were actually organizing a 5k with some other groups on campus. I think it's called Run for your Life. It's going to be an awesome event. I believe it's on February 21st, but it'll definitely be on our socials if anyone's interested in that. Yeah, I really don't know. I'm in shock also. I mean, I don't know how we go from seeing a girl basically my age be viciously murdered by an illegal immigrant in our own city and then now we're supporting people doing this kind of thing to ICE agents who are just trying to protect our country and protect citizens of America. And I think especially as a woman, seeing that happen to someone my age is frightening. And I think we should be in support of people who want to keep us safe from that kind of thing. And I really think that our campus is just in a real mess and we have a lot of work to do still.

[Blake]

All right, now you, Emma, your last what's the. What is dominating the midterm vibes among young people in Knoxville?

[Haley Ron Canyon]

Yeah, well, kind of like Edward said, talking about the economy, but more specifically affordability for housing and buying homes. I'm actually graduating in the next semester and looking into the, the near future, it kind of seems impossible to achieve that American dream of being a homeowner. And I think that that's A deeper issue than a lot of people might realize on the surface because you have all these young people in America who don't have. They don't own anything. They don't have stake in anything. And I think that makes it difficult to really feel like you have ownership in your country, that you're an actual citizen of your country and to be proud of your country when you feel like everything is being, you know, taken by different. Different. Taken from your hands different ways. I also think that that also impacts the family, the nuclear family. You can't raise three kids in an apartment. That's just not ideal. So it does make it harder for people to start families, continue growing our country. So it is a deeper issue than people realize.

[Charlie Kirk]

Emma, I think that's great. And I just wanted to say if you're just graduating, you do have a little time on the home buying and that starting. Don't panic. Yeah, don't panic yet. But your concern is legitimate and it's well made.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

President Trump just passed a very awesome bill of law a few days ago where he banned big corporation institutionally buying single family.

[Blake]

He's looking to. He's aspiring to do it, I think.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

So that was. I'm looking from Australia. I'm like, that's amazing. That will free the market for young people to actually.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and Charlie talked a lot about an economic moonshot for Gen Z and that is build 5, 10 million new homes, block institutional money, block foreign money, make sure that it's open to young.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Limit immigration so you don't overwhelm the housing market. Supply and demand.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. Yeah. And I think all of these things are making. We're making good progress, but we're not there yet. And I think these concerns that you guys are voicing are apt. And they're really important. It was stuff Charlie talked about, by the way. Blake, I don't know if you have a follow up here, but we've got.

[Blake]

I wish we had a little more time because I'd love to poke more at that AI thing because I'm very fascinated by how young people relate to artificial intelligence.

[Charlie Kirk]

You remember the last time we did one of these, it was all about H1BS. Do you guys talk about H1BS within the club or within. With. On. In the chapter for Minnesota specifically and at my chapter. I know that we still discuss. That we still discuss the avenues of legal immigration. Yeah. What about the ladies in the, in the panel? Because last time it was. It dominated our conversation.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

I think we definitely have a mixed. There's. There's mixed views on whether we should be having more or having less or just leaving it the same. Because there are pros and cons, of course, to both. But I hear a lot of different things from different students. It just kind of depends. Definitely a mix.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. AI with AI is going to be.

[Blake]

I think about that. A friend of mine, he just said that kids at the campus he's at, he works on a Christian ministry there, and he says they need AI to tell them what questions to ask in class. And that concept had not occurred to me until I heard that. And it filled me with AI when.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

I was in school. Yeah, I've solved a lot of my problems.

[Charlie Kirk]

The lack of critical thinking skills, though, that. That AI could give rise to is.

[Blake]

Terrifying, which is why we need all of you guys. We need to. We need to fight against groupthink on campus. We made progress last year, but it does. It roars back over and over again. So we thank all of you for standing guard in the permanent vigil for liberty.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Thank you, guys. Thank you for making the time. And as you hear more about walkouts as well, Haley, we want to hear about those, because in Phoenix here, it's just. It's going crazy. So not a good sign. Not a good sign. All right. God bless you guys and stay safe and stay vigilant. And we thank you for all of your great service at Turning Point chapters across the country and Pastor Andrew Sedgwick, etc, thank you for spending the whole hour with us.

[Senator Markwayne Mullin]

Thank you, guys.

[Pastor Andrew Sedgwick]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

What a blessing. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

[Haley Ron Canyon]

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