The Charlie Kirk Show, March 13, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show (Real America’s Voice/iHeartPodcasts): March 13, 2026

Episode Overview

Theme:
This episode blends breaking news, legal developments, and deep-dive political commentary, all centered on recent domestic terror attacks, immigration and citizenship policy, and the ongoing challenges to America’s social fabric. The key discussion: How should the U.S. respond to growing domestic terrorism, radicalization, and the failures of both legal and illegal immigration policy?

Guest: U.S. Senator Eric Schmidt (MO), proponent of the proposed SCAM Act (Strengthening Citizenship and Mitigating Abuse).

Note: This summary covers main content, skipping ads, intros/outros, and non-content segments.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Unpredictability and "America First" in National Policy

Time: 03:08–04:47

• The show opens with commentary on “Trump’s America First unpredictability” regarding military action and foreign policy.
• Discussion pivots rapidly to recent (fictional, for context) anti-Semitic attacks, focusing on the national “Overton Window” (acceptable public discourse) shifting to allow more hate speech and radical views on both left and right.
• Gun violence: Panelists condemn “the cult of gun absolutism” and its effects.

Quote:

“We live in a country where people care more about guns than they care about six-year-old children, synagogue worshipers, college students.” — Speaker B (04:00)

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2. The Legal/Illegal Immigration Debate

Time: 05:01–05:59; 32:39–33:06; 40:17–41:49

• Shift toward tough stances on both illegal and legal immigration.
• Panelists argue the real fight is over “net zero immigration” — not just stopping illegal entries, but instituting a moratorium on all new legal immigrants.
  • “Net zero” is defined as only admitting as many as leave the country each year (~150-250k).
• Cites recent attacks allegedly committed by naturalized citizens or their children as examples of immigration system failings.

Quote:

“Can we rebalance the conversation around legal immigration? We must be unafraid to tell the truth. Stop it. Net zero immigration moratorium.” — B (05:22, 32:39)

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3. The SCAM Act & Denaturalization

Time: 27:08–28:42; 40:17–41:49

Guest: Senator Eric Schmidt (MO)

• Senator Schmidt outlines the SCAM Act, a proposal to expand the grounds for denaturalization of immigrants, such as after commission of fraud, violent crime, terrorism, or other major offenses — with a 10-year lookback window.
• Explains current law makes denaturalization “nearly impossible” except for fraud at the time of naturalization.
• Schmidt argues radicalized or criminal naturalized citizens must be removable for security.

Quotes:

“If you come to this country, you commit fraud, a violent act, terrorism — my bill, the SCAM Act, with a 10-year look-back, will denaturalize you and get you the hell out of here.” — Sen. Schmidt (27:12)
“If you’re sympathizing with ISIS … you don’t belong here.” — Host A (41:48)

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4. Radicalization & Divided Loyalties

Time: 06:24–07:02; 29:49–31:02

• Recurrent theme: Young men radicalizing in American communities, expressing loyalty to foreign terrorist groups over the U.S.
• Panelists play a clip interviewing young men who declare on air they’d rather go to jail than fight for America against an Islamic country.
• Discussion turns to systemic problems with assimilation, education (mention of college radicalization, “communist dogma”), and failure to monitor known hotbeds of extremism.

Notable moments:

Q: “If America were to get in a war with Iraq, would you defend America or Iraq?”
A: “We would support our brothers in Iraq … We would not defend America. We would just take up the jail time.” — Interviewee (06:29–07:02, 30:09–30:37)

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5. Problems with Legal Immigration Programs

Time: 31:02–32:29

• Schmidt and hosts criticize H1B (tech visas) and OPT (student work programs) as systems that displace American workers/students with cheaper, often less-assimilated foreign labor.
• Argue universities and corporations profit, while Americans lose opportunities.

Quote:

“The H1B program … is used to displace American workers … The biggest lie was that we didn’t have American workers who could do these jobs.” — Sen. Schmidt (31:15)

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6. Mass Deportations, Democrats’ Strategy & ICE

Time: 38:40–40:17

• Panelists argue that Democrats’ “toxic empathy” and efforts to kneecap ICE are strategies to force mass amnesty by creating a crisis (“15 million here illegally”).
• Claim Democrats lost because of border policy, and now want to “shut down ICE” as an alternative way to win.

Quote:

“They brought in 15 million people. They thought amnesty would have to be the answer. Now that the American people rejected that, their only solution is to defund … ICE.” — Schmidt (39:35)

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7. Current Events: Attacks on Synagogues & ROTC

Time: 35:18–36:48

• Reports on a (fictional) attack on a Michigan synagogue: Car ramming, attacker (Lebanese-born naturalized citizen) killed after threatening children and staff.
• Old Dominion University: ROTC students stop a classroom attack — the assailant had known prior terror sympathies.

Quote:

“It just makes you sick to realize he survived conflicts abroad and is killed by a terrorist here on home soil. Someone convicted as an ISIS sympathizer… was out on the streets.” — A (65:13)

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8. Blame, Guns, and Political Will

Time: 46:11–46:43

• Virginia attorney Ramin Fatahi (clip): Blames guns and legislative inaction for attacks, rather than ideology or immigration.
• Panelists strongly reject, pointing out that guns were not the only weapon (ref. explosive-filled car).

Quote:

“They love to blame guns, but in this situation it was actually an explosive-filled vehicle that did the damage.” — F (46:59)

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9. First Amendment, Denaturalization, and Islam

Time: 75:01–79:54

• Listener Q&A segment on how to balance denaturalizing radicalized citizens with First Amendment protections.
• Panelists acknowledge that Islam is a religion (thus protected), but advocate denaturalization not on belief, but on crimes (terror support, welfare fraud, etc.).
• Discuss cultural compatibility: Islam vs. Western values, and the need for a courageous coalition to press for reforms while staying within constitutional bounds.

Quote:

“We don’t need to pass a law denaturalizing all Muslims. …Go after the crimes. …We can adjust our immigration policies … to avoid increasing the Muslim percentage of the United States.” — D (75:50–77:41)

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Notable Quotes & Exchanges (with Timestamps)

• Sen. Schmidt on denaturalization:
  “If you come to this country, you commit fraud, you commit a violent act, an act of terrorism, we should have the ability … to denaturalize you and get you the hell out of here.” (27:12)
• Host A:
  “This is what we've imported. Those are your neighbors, those are your fellow citizens. … Our immigration system has been so stupid for so long that this is… the fruit.” (31:00)
• Panelist D (on First Amendment):
  “It is a religious system by any reasonable standard… We should avoid passing maybe bills that feel emotionally satisfying but are unconstitutional.” (75:50–77:41)
• Panelist A:
  “We don’t want any more Muslim immigration. I’m saying it. So let’s stop the bleeding, first of all.” (80:49)

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Timestamps for Crucial Segments

• 03:08–04:47: Framing the current threats and Overton Window.
• 05:01–05:59: Immigration moratorium arguments.
• 27:08–28:42 and 40:17–41:49: SCAM Act and denaturalization explained.
• 29:49–31:02: Radicalization in immigrant communities.
• 31:02–32:29: H1B/OPT critiques.
• 35:18–36:48: News break on Michigan and Old Dominion attacks.
• 38:40–40:17: Democratic strategy re: ICE and border enforcement.
• 46:11–46:43: Virginia attorney blames guns.
• 75:01–79:54: Listener Q&A on denaturalization vs. religious rights.

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Summary of Tone and Approach

• The conversation is combative, highly critical of current and past Democratic immigration policy, with a strong “America First” flavor.
• Guests and hosts express alarm over terrorism and radicalism, demanding strong measures: moratoriums, denaturalization, tough border control, and legislative “no compromise.”
• Rejection of “toxic empathy” and calls for courage/fearlessness in confronting these controversies.

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Memorable Moments

• Audience and host frustration with the slow pace of change, particularly in the Senate.
• Sarcastic commentary on radicalism:
  “If you’re so obsessed with the Supreme Leader of Iran, move there.”
• Calls for coalition-building using the “preference cascade” model — one voice giving courage to more.
• Recurrent tributes to Charlie Kirk’s legacy following his (fictional) assassination.

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Conclusion

This episode weaves urgent current events—terror attacks, legal trials, and immigration controversy—into an unflinching rally for stricter laws on citizenship, deportation, and immigration. The panel pushes for courage in the political and cultural fight, with the SCAM Act as a key proposal, all amid listener Q&A that brings real-world concerns and sharp, sometimes heated, discussion about protecting Western values and constitutional freedoms.

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Transcript

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To be crystal clear, we do not know the motivations of the attacker. This would be mass murderer of Jews.

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We don't know their political views. But the Overton window, the measure of

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acceptable discourse, has opened to some of

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the most hateful anti Semitic voices out there on the left and the right.

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A national sickness. We live in a country where people care more about guns than they care about six year old children. They care more about guns than they care about synagogue worshipers, and they care

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more about guns than they do about college students.

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And until there is the political will to break the spell of the cult of gun absolutism, you will see more incidents like this. So if you're looking for somebody to blame, don't look at anybody up here. Look at our lawmakers who don't have the courage to implement sensible gun control measures.

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I can say that this, this situation,

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this was an Israeli temple. It was aligned with Israel. I will say that a Jewish temple,

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a Jewish, Jewish synagogue is not an Israeli temple.

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It's called the real Israel Temple.

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They're Jewish.

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They're the people of Israel.

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So it's it was wrong from the premise they're not Israeli, they're Jewish.

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So they are called the real Israeli temple.

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I have a question for you guys.

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If America were to get in a

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Iraq, who would you guys defend, America or Iraq?

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We won't get a war. That's not permissible for us. But at the same time, who would you defend first? We would support our brothers in Iraq. That's the only way. So you wouldn't defend America. We would not defend America. At the same time. Listen, at the same time, America is our country because we were born here. But in our Islamic book, we're not allowed to fight with people that are against our religion. So we just take up the jail time. That's what we do.

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So you would not.

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I would go to jail instead of fighting for America.

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Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. It's Friday, March 13, 2026, here at the Bitcoin.com studio in Phoenix, Arizona. Welcome, Blake. Howdy. We're gonna do something unusual here. The trial. The judge in Utah, Judge Tony Graff is hearing a motion from the defense to block cameras and Charlie's.

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And block some evidence.

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And block some evidence. So we're gonna take that right now because it just started. Let's go ahead and throw to that. Thank you. This is not intended to cause you any embarrassment or discomfort? I simply want to ensure that the expectations for today's proceedings are clear.

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So, turning to Ms. Seitz, first, during today's hearing, what is your primary role?

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Pool photographer.

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All right, Mr. Dolan, video and pool. Have you read the court's February 25, 2026 standing decorum order, Ms. Sites?

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I have.

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Mr. Dolan. I have also. Thank you.

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And so do you understand the guidelines

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I do.

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Thank you.

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I also do.

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Thank you.

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Do you need any additional time to review the order or to reposition yourself

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or the camera to ensure full compliance? I do not.

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I do not.

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Thank you.

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Do you anticipate any difficulty complying with the order? I don't. I do not either.

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All right. Thank you to you both.

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Thanks.

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And I appreciate your cooperation today and how we can make this proceeding move forward smoothly. Fourth, I want to turn to the state as it relates to discovery and just want to see if we could

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have just a brief update.

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Mr. Grenander.

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Thank you, Judge. Yes. For the record, we sent another batch of discovery to the defense as recently as last night. As far as the files that we in our possession, we have provided 93.9% of those files to the defense at this point. We also, for the court's information, met with the defense yesterday, and part of the discussion centered on discovery. And we hand delivered to them a hard drive containing information with respect to digital devices that had been seized as part of the investigation and analyses done by the rcfl, which is the regional computer forensics lab. That was a 24 terabyte hard drive. I don't imagine it was entirely full, but there was a large amount of information that was provided there. As I said, we met and talked about discovery. We talked about some of our expectations. We are candidly still waiting for some information. We had a meeting yesterday morning with some of our federal law enforcement partners, the FBI, the atf, and talked about this issue of discovery and impressed upon them the need to have everything in their possession. We were assured that it's coming quickly. The atf, for example, we expect to have their entire case file within the next week or so that we will disseminate to the defense. And we believe that that will have all of the underlying data in its original form that the defense could then use for their purposes with their experts. We are in the process also of reaching out to all of the local law enforcement agencies to ensure that we are in possession of all of the body Camera footage from that day as well as other information. And we continue to work on that as part of our discussions yesterday as well. Probably the primary purpose of the meeting with the defense yesterday was to forecast what we anticipated presenting at the preliminary hearing that's currently scheduled for May. As far as the individuals that will testify as well as exhibits we will be preparing. While it's not required under the rule rules, we are going to prepare a witness list and an exhibit list that will disseminate to the defense with Bates numbers so that it could be easily found in the case file. You have your phone with you? We are also helping the defense to facilitate a meeting for them to examine the physical evidence that's in the possession of sbi. We anticipate that probably happening next month when we're. We're back here, I think April 17th. And then lastly, we did also coordinate a meeting to meet with the defense today, this afternoon sometime to walk the UVU campus so that we can. They can take a look at the scene.

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Okay, thank you, Mr. Grenadier. I appreciate the details. Does any party wish the benefit of the record as it relates to the discovery? Mr. Novak.

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Richard Novak for Mr. Robinson. We can either address this now or obviously later this morning as the court wishes. But there's a connection between the discovery that we have not yet received,

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that

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the Utah County Attorney's Office has not written yet received, and going back one layer further, the State Bureau of Investigation has not received, which is directly related to our ability to meaningfully prepare for the preliminary hearing. And that is what I will generally describe as the federal forensic files. We're talking both about case files, as the ATF calls it, and data files from both agencies which relate directly to forensic analyses which led to forensic opinions which it appears the state intends to move into evidence at the prelim through 1102. But we don't have much, I should say, most of the underlying data. We don't have data that we've been able to give our experts on stuff that relates to those opinions. So we did meet and confer after yesterday's meeting about the fact that we need to ask this court to postpone the preliminary hearing.

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For that reason.

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We can put it in writing. If we need to do this by written motion. We can discuss it in more detail today. But it's not little tiny bits of witness statements here and there and reports and some photographs that we're missing. From our perspective, this is core, fundamental data that underlies expert opinions that the state wants the court to consider. And we have no ability to either get our own expert opinions or meaningfully cross examine the state's witnesses or frankly even call the forensic experts themselves because we have a right to put on our own witnesses because we don't have their data and our experts can't advise us on the data if, if we don't have the data. So we can't, we can't meaningfully cross examine, we can't meaningfully examine the state's forensic experts if the state decided to call them as live witnesses as opposed to it through an 1102 process. And we can't be prepared to put on our own witnesses because they don't have the data. So I don't want to pre argue it unless the court wants to get to the merits of that. I did go back and I looked at the court's comments back when the court set the May preliminary hearing date in December. And I don't think I need to read back to the court what the court said.

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But

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that's our concern. So we can either from our perspective, discuss what is a realistic preliminary hearing date based on the representations that we will get certain data in the next couple weeks, which I and I there's total good faith from the State Council when they said they met with the federal partners to impress upon them. I know what that means. That means they've done everything they can do. But there are federal agencies which haven't produced fundamental forensic data and files underlying very important expert reports. So we have the reports but not the data.

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Sure.

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So we can either address that later today after the court hears the argument on the pending motions, we can move in writing and the court could set up briefing schedule for that. We are cognizant of the fact that at the last hearing the court said, if I may, we've got a really busy calendar. We don't have any openings. So I wanted to, we wanted to

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All right, we're back here at the Charlie Kirk Show. We are going to, to be monitoring that hearing in Charlie's. Well, it's the trial of Tyler Robinson, but obviously pre trial, pre trial, pre trial, it's a hearing. They're trying to block certain, certain evidence. They're trying to block certain media access as well. Even though the judge has already ruled on that. We're being told that it's because of that previous ruling. It's pretty unlikely that he would rule in the defense's favor to block this media access. But we're going to keep, we're going to keep tabs on that. Our team is monitoring it. So as there's clips that come that are important or relevant to the discussion, we're going to bring them back. I want to get to Senator Eric Schmidt because he's been, he made some time for us this morning and want to honor that. Welcome to the show, Senator Schmidt. Thank you so much for making the time. I know you're kind of juggling all kinds of obligations over there. So you tweeted something yesterday and I just think it's absolutely fundamentally important to the Republic. It's called the scam act, especially after the events that unfolded yesterday. Please tell our audience about it and why they should support it because I'm all in.

[E]

Yeah, look, we, we've effectively closed the border. That's great success. I think the mass migration needs to be met with mass deportations. So there's 15 million people here that came here illegally when the Joe Biden era. And those deportations will continue. But we also, I think, need to do something beyond that, which is begin to expand the category of people that can be denaturalized and sent back home. Look, if you come to this country, you commit fraud, you commit a violent act, an act of terrorism. We should have the ability in my bill, the scam act, with a 10 year look back to Denaturalize you and get you the hell out of here. That's how I feel about it. And you can tell with the incidents in Austin, Old Dominion, the New York team got teen guys who were, you know, throwing bombs the. The Michigan synagogue yesterday. The guy was natural naturalized. He was from Lebanon. So there ought to be a process, because right now, a lot of people don't know. It's just very difficult. You almost have to commit fraud in the inducement fraud at the moment that you are applying to become a citizen. And of course, with that process, you know, you, You. You sort of pledge allegiance to the country. There's sort of a loyalty test there that's very important. But when people come here and they abuse the system like that, we ought to be able to denaturalize them. I filed this originally, Andrew, in the wake of the Minneapolis Somali fraud scam. Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Because people had come here, they fleeced Americans, and they were recently naturalized citizens. And we ought to be able to denaturalize them in that incident. And then, of course, with terrorism, too.

[A]

Well, you know, that's exactly what I thought about. You know, we have a problem now that is not going. I don't think you can address it, actually, because a lot of these are sons, I guess, daughters, but mostly sons that are doing the terrorism of immigrants. So, for example, those two young men at Gracie Mansion in New York City, those are, you know, kids that have grown up here that have gotten radicalized from, you know, online. But it's their. We naturalized. Their parents radicalized by their mom, Their fellow men. Exactly.

[E]

And by the way, wasn't it. Wasn't it actually interesting, that image? You've got some white liberal out there with a megaphone, you know, protesting, saying everybody is welcome, kind of whatever the. Whatever the woke slogan he was chanting. And then two guys, two, you know, terrorists essentially leap over him to throw bombs. I mean, it is kind of actually indicative of the problem, this sort of toxic or suicidal empathy that the left has. They're willing to destroy our country to, you know, kind of fill some hole in their own heart. I don't. It's. It's dangerous for our country. And that's my concern.

[A]

I totally agree. I want to play this clip here. This is from November 2025. Nick Shirley was talking to some of these young men that have been radicalized right here at home, right here in Dearborn and other places. Cut one. Now you have all these Islam men.

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Yon Allah Akbar.

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I have a question for you guys.

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If America were to get in A

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war with someone with a country like Ira. Would you guys defend America or Iraq? We won't. We won't get a war. That's not permissible for us. But at the same time, who would you defend first? We would defend our brothers in Iraq. That's the only way. So you wouldn't defend America? We would not defend America. But you're America. Listen, at the same time, America is our country because we were born here. But in our Islamic book, we're not allowed to fight with people that are against our religion.

[H]

So.

[A]

So we just take up the jail time. So you would not have. I would go to jail instead of running for America. So I guess that's the solution that. I mean, this is what we've imported. Those are your neighbors, those are your fellow citizens. I don't even know what to make of it because our immigration system has been so stupid for so long that this is. This is the fruit.

[E]

Yeah. We don't have just a. I think, I think I've been saying. You guys have been saying it. I know Charlie would say it. We didn't. We don't have just an illegal immigration problem. We have a legal immigration problem. And I'll give you two examples. The H1B program, which has been used by, by corporate interest essentially to displace American workers. The biggest lie that was ever told was that we didn't have American workers could do these jobs. By the way, these are like computer tech jobs. Right? And so what they'll do is, and Microsoft did it just a few months ago, they'll literally lay off thousands of American workers. Not because they don't have workers to do the jobs. Those are the ones they're firing to import foreign labor that's cheaper and more compliant because in order to be here, the company has to attest for their temporary visa. Meanwhile, the American workers have to suffer the humiliation of training their foreign replacements whose only skill they have that they don't have is that they're willing to take less money. The other one is the OPT program, which has become like a visa mill for universities guys where they bring in foreign students, displacing American students. And the universities go along with it because they get full freight, they pay full tuition and more, as opposed to an in state tuition for an American kid. And then companies that hire them for a year or two get the benefit of not paying taxes on that worker. So we have a legal immigration problem in the sense that we're encouraging and creating incentives for American workers and students to be displaced and we have to change that.

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I want to play a couple clips from Charlie himself talking about this, about fixing legal immigration. Play, play. Sat 10.

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We must be unafraid to tell the truth about legal immigration. Stop it. Net zero immigration moratorium. And be unafraid of the words that they will call us because our greatest cities are being conquered.

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Sod 11.

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The fight, the future, the energy is going to be on. Who do we legally let into America? That is the question.

[A]

CK was all over this. One minute to you, Senator.

[E]

Yeah, look, we saw. We had a hearing on birthright citizenship this week, too. There's. There's basically this birth tourism where Chinese will pay. Chinese individuals will pay to have their. Have a woman come here for a week, give birth, fly back. There's a million and a half quote, unquote, American citizens that are being educated by the CCP in China that can come back the United States. This thing's broken. Charlie's right. This is the fight. And we have to be unafraid of what people are going to call us.

[A]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. He did an ex poll, by the way. 225, throw this up. This was about 90% in favor of it. 225, if you've got that image. About 90% in favor of this. Check this out, though, Senator Schmidt. We did the poll at Amfest in December. So Basically, less than three months ago, two to six, it came out the exact same. 89.5% in favor of an immigration moratorium.

[E]

Yeah, and you look at the polling

[A]

guys also got it. Got to take a quick break and we'll come back. Hang right there, Senator. We'll be right back.

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Terrence Bates here with your real America's voice. News break. We appreciate you being here with us. We're monitoring a hearing happening in Utah involving the man accused of murdering Charlie Kirk. Right now, lawyers are simply arguing procedural issues. We'll continue to monitor this for you and take you there live once there's something significant to report in the meantime, federal investigators still trying to confirm what motivated a 41 year old man to ram his vehicle into a sh. Into a synagogue. Excuse me. Threatening the lives of 140 kids as well as teachers and staff at a school that was associated with that house of worship. The feds are calling the crime an act of violence targeting the Jewish community. It all happened Thursday afternoon in West Bloomfield Township, Michigan. The attacker was shot and killed after his car burst into flames when he rammed the building and then jumped out holding a rifle. Department of Homeland Security officials confirmed the guy is originally from Lebanon, but immigrated to the United States and became a naturalized citizen in a separate and arguably more disturbing attack in Virginia. ROTC students at Old Dominion University being hailed heroes this morning after killing a man who barged into a university classroom, killing one student and injuring three others.

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Fact first. America first. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, gonna have Senator Schmidt back in just one second. First, I want to tell you about our friends over at Patriot Mobile. Every day that you make a decision where you spend your money, it has an impact on the country. And that's why we are so behind Patriot Mobile and what they're doing. They're fighting for Texas like you wouldn't believe. So every time you invest in them, they're investing it and saving Texas. They're also saving a lot of other things. They're working on so many things. They support Turning Point, they support Gen Z and reaching the next generation. So put your money where your values are. Support Patriot Mobile. And here's the best part. You get the same great service because they, they have access to all three major wireless carriers and they also will have unlimited data plans, international roaming, all that stuff. So you're not, you're not losing anything. You're just supporting the cause that you believe in. So go check out Patriot Mobile today. Glenn and Jenny Story are just tremendous humans, great Americans that run this company. Go to patriot mobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot and use the promo code Charlie for a free month of service. So you can do it two ways. Go to patriotmobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot. Use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. You can do all the things with them. Great company. All right, Senator Schmidt, you were, we were talking about the polling. Charlie did an ex poll. 89% supporter moratorium, net zero moratorium. Just to be clear what that is, we lose about 150 to 250,000 people just emigrating out of the country every year. So in theory, you could replace those. Right. One to one still net zero to the population count. That would be. Yes, 89%. We did it at Amfest, 89.5%. And you were about to make a point on the polling that you've seen.

[E]

Yeah, the polling I've seen also on deportations. Right. The American people don't just support deporting, you know, criminal aliens who are here. They also just believe in, we saw 15 million people come here illegally, and we ought to deport those, too. And I think what you're, what you really, if you want to peel the veil back on what this whole DHS funding and ICE thing is with the Democrats, if they've shut down Homeland Security, they lost at the polls in 2024. They brought in 15 million people. They thought that this was the reality everybody was going to have to live with. President Trump ran on a central plank, was addressing that issue in mass deportations. They lost there. And so now what they want to do is that basically have mass amnesty by kneecapping ICE so they can't continue their mission for deport that President Trump won on. So I think the 15 million people here illegally was. The Democrats wanted to create a problem so big that the only solution that people could wrap their head around was mass amnesty. And now that the American people rejected that, their only solution is to defund an agency whose job is to enforce our federal immigration law. So it's a sick ideology. The Democrats have totally lost their way. I mean, if you listen to a speech from Bill Clinton not that long ago, he sounds like a Republican on this point. Now, they've been totally radicalized with this open borders in this toxic empathy. And I think at the end of the day, guys, they know they've lost the case of the American people. And their only way that they can hold on to power or gain power is by having a new group of people here that they can make them beholden to. So it's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, reiterate for the audience, Senator, the Scam act, because I think you made this point. I think you said it well. You said, first the SAVE Act, Save America act, then the SCAM Act. So what would the SCAM act actually do? And how do we. How do we support you in this effort?

[E]

So deport or, I'm sorry, denaturalization is hard to do right now. It's pretty rare. This would expand the category by which you can denaturalize somebody if they commit welfare fraud. Fraud if they're you know, have an aggravated felony if they're a violent criminal, if they, if they're, you know, convicted of espionage, if they join a cartel, a foreign terrorist organization or engage in terrorism, you have a 10 year look back from when they were denaturalized or naturalized. And you can denaturalize them and send them home. Right now. You can't do that. Once somebody becomes a citizen, it's very hard to ever do that. You have to prove some sort of, of fraud and the inducement of fraud, how they became a citizen in the first place. Now, there are court rulings on this and it's importantly, we've drafted the statute that would comply with the court's ruling that you tie this back to their initial, their original fraud of saying, I'm going to be loyal to the United States and all that sort of thing. So the Scam act is very important. If we're serious about this, if we're serious about taking on abuses with legal immigration, not just H1B, not just opt, but when people do things like they did in Minneapolis or you see what happened at Old Dominion, there's a mechanism by which, not just that we can prosecute them, but that we can ultimately denaturalize them and get them out of here.

[A]

So I have a question. Maybe Blake has. Blake's my. He's not a lawyer, but he's paid to be one on tv. You are a lawyer. You are a great lawyer in Missouri. This is why I love this question for you, because you're crafting this in such a way that it will hold legal muster. But I'll just be honest. Emotionally, I'm watching what happened at odd. I'm watching what happened in, in Michigan. I don't care if it's 10 years or 15 years or 100 years. Get that guy out of here, lock him up, throw away the key. Like, if you're sympathizing with ISIS, I don't care if it's 10 years or 50, you don't belong here. So that's my final question to you there, sir.

[E]

Yeah, look, we're trying to get, Look, I'm not big on. A lot of people just file things to have like be able to message it and say, hey, I'm look at this. I filed this bill. Even though they know it's not going to go anywhere. That's not me me. That's not why I get into this. I got into this, you know, when I was ag, we fought back and we won a lot of those big cases and that's why I ran for the Senate. So this would hold up. Would I like for it to be longer? Of course. But we want this thing to actually have some teeth to be upheld by the court. And right now we don't have a really. A way to denaturalize. This would give us a route to get rid of these bad folks.

[D]

To me, it just seems so straightforward. I. I always find it aggravating that we bring these giant bills and they get held up and everything, because to me, it should be such a straightforward political win to have the Senate be voting on a bill and it says if you commit terrorism, you can have your citizenship revoked and force Democrats to filibuster it, force them to vote no on it, and then run on that.

[A]

Yeah, run.

[D]

I want every single guy to say, this guy voted in favor of keeping citizenship for ISIS supporters. It should be really straightforward. I'm always so confused.

[E]

100%. And that's what I mean. Save America Act. Right. We want to get that done and make the Democrats make an argument against it. Right. Who doesn't think you should have to prove you're a US Citizen to vote? Who doesn't think you shouldn't have to show an ID like you do when you check into a hotel room to vote? These are big issues. And by the way, they'll matter in important states like Georgia, where Jon Ossoff parades around like a moderate. It's hard to act. It's hard to actually portray yourself as a moderate when you voted against all these 80, 20 issues. I agree with you. I think we need to be aggressive and we need to play offense.

[A]

Well, you know, Senator Schmidt, you might need a new job than Senate leader, but that's just. You don't want it. Never mind.

[B]

No, thanks.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Senator Eric Schmidt, scam act. We all need to get behind it. It's huge. It's so important. And while we're at it, let's get a net zero moratorium on the books. But we can. We can wish. Thank you. Thank you for making the time.

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Take care, guys.

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Thank you. You.

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Yep.

[A]

All right. We. We're going to take just a few seconds here. We have another guest with the. With the hearing. Our. We got kind of backlogged, so. Thanks for everybody being flexible with the show this morning. But. Yeah. Your reaction to it. I think he makes a good point. It has to stand up to legal mustard. But emotionally, we don't.

[D]

We don't ever want cartoon bills. You don't want something that's going to get blown up by a Supreme Court. That is whatever frustrations we have basically on our side. But we should, we should be very eager and ready to propose restrained bills that clearly make the situation better and that it's indefensible for Democrats to vote against. It's, I've told this story a few times, but US Federal law still lets you bring in child brides to get a green card for marriage. And I would love to have our government voting on that. I think that could be a one page bill where you amend it and you say actually there's a, there's an age floor for that sort of thing. Or, and so similar to this, it's just I feel, I love his bill and the different parts of it. I'd practically wonder if you could break that into pieces. You could have a one page bill that says like okay, you can get denaturalized for terrorism offense.

[A]

Yeah. And why is our Senate not pulling that immediately to the floor?

[D]

And like there's all this committee nonsense that goes on the Senate streamline that change the rules so that on something like that you can bring it up to, you don't need to waste a month on something when it is a straight forward change to the law. That's my point of view.

[A]

I'm, I'm going to play a cut here because it's just we've got Ayelet Jacoby coming on in just a second. I think he's almost ready. But here you got to see this with the left over the shot, the shootings yesterday and the attacks, it's just amazing what they're saying. Play SOT3 a national sickness.

[B]

We live in a country where people care more about guns than they care about six year old children. They care more about guns than they

[D]

care about synagogue worshipers and they care

[B]

more about guns than they do about college students. And until there is the political will to break the spell of the cult of gun absolutism, you will see more incidents like this.

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So if you're looking for somebody to

[B]

blame, don't look at anybody up here. Look at our lawmakers who don't have the courage to implement sensible gun control measures.

[A]

Ayala Jacoby joins us now. I hope you heard that clip. That's the Soros backed Virginia attorney Ramen Fatahi and he's, he's, he's blaming guns for what happened yesterday. Your reaction?

[F]

I just find it confusing that he's blaming guns when there was an explosive filled vehicle that was rammed into the synagogue yesterday. And so, so I think you know they love to blame guns, but in this situation it was actually an explosive filled vehicle that did the damage.

[A]

Well, I think to be specific, I think he was speaking about the Old Dominion attack in that I think. But you know, but either way we have more clips of this. This is Jake Tapper, who's Jewish by the way. He said we don't know the. This was the synagogue shooting or attack. Yeah, go ahead.

[D]

You just picture these like f. Like some clueless FBI agent and they're like why did you do was because of Islam, sir. And he's like stop speaking in riddles

[A]

and breaking a chair. Exactly. We had no. Instantly we, we reacted. We like we knew the motivation. Stop for be crystal clear.

[D]

We do not know the motivations of the attacker.

[A]

This would be mass murderer of Jews. We don't know their political views.

[D]

But the Overton window, the measure of acceptable discourse has opened to some of

[B]

the most hateful anti Semitic voices out

[D]

there on the left and the right. We don't know the motive. I mean might have been animal rights.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

Might have been, you know, might have been protesting a parking ticket.

[A]

We've got just a short little bit in this segment left, but 10 seconds to you. Did you, did you instantly know the motive or did you. Were you guessing?

[F]

I think after the Austin shooting, the IED attack in New York City, the Dominion shooting and then another car ramming, I think it becomes obvious what the ramming is when it's four different incidents in a single week alone.

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It's a mystery we just the world may never know. This is why I know this is why we can't have nice things is because you know, we're just completely hampered by part of the country that's brain dead. Stay right there. Want to introduce you to our audience as well. When you get back. I. I want to tell you about all family Pharmacy. They are phenomenal people out of Florida, they have come up with a way to get ahead of your healthcare needs. Right. Everything in healthcare is reactive. You get sick, you wait in line, you go to the doctor. You don't have to do that. Just get online. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com Kirk Use Kirk 10 for 10% off at checkout. They you get your prescriptions before you get sick. They have antibiotics, antiviral, tamiflu, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, mebendazole, methyl and blue. Even your daily maintenance medications. So choose freedom. Choose the right pharmacy. These guys are amazing. They've incredible business. Allfamilypharmacy.com Kirk, we'll be right back. All right, welcome back. Private student loan debt in the United States States totals $400 billion, $300 billion, $300 billion, 450, $45 billion

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[F]

Yeah. First of all, thank you for having me on the show. Andrew, great to speak to you again. Blake, great to meet you. I graduated from the University of Pennsylvania two years ago. During my senior year, I was on campus for the pro Hamas, anti ICE protests. And throughout college, I knew that there was this communist dogma that was being superimposed onto students. And it really came to light in my opinion, my senior year. I testified before Congress twice. I've spoken with President Trump about the rising radicalism on college campuses. I've worked Closely with the administration, with congressional committees, and my focus has really been to restore academic excellence to the United States rather than dei, communism and Islamism.

[A]

Well, you're doing a lot of work there, man. I see you all over my feed. So good on you there. I wanted to have you on because of this clip, though, and it ties into what we were talking about with Senator Schmidt, and he's working on a bill called the Scam act to deport, denaturalize even citizens and have a 10 year look back. So if you're getting buddy buddy with isis, then get the hell out. And I'm all about it. So. But this. This is a dearborn Henry Ford Community College professor, Ali Akbar Steed. And he is.

[D]

I remember that name in the declaration.

[A]

Right, exactly. Sounds like a founding father. Although, ielts. That's. I'm still struggling to say it. I apologize, my friend, but we're gonna play this clip and get your reaction on the other side, because I just found it just horrendous that these people are these. They live among us. Sought to.

[C]

Trump did a huge mistake by killing

[A]

our beloved leader, Sayyid Ali Khamenei. He thought that by killing him, he's

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gonna make the believers submit and make them hopeless.

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However, we're gonna continue on the path of Sayyid Ali Khamenei. We're gonna hold his blood, his ideology.

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We're gonna learn it and teach it

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to our children and grandchildren. We're going to hold his blood and his ideology and teach it to our children and grandchildren. And of course, he's talking about how President Trump, you know, killed the supreme leader of Iran. What do you make of this?

[F]

I make, number one, that if he's so obsessed with the Supreme Leader of Iran, he should fly there and live there under the Iranian regime. There is absolutely zero reason that he's currently residing in the United States of America. There's literally none. And I think it's the same sort of ridiculousness that a lot of people have where they have this fetish for these terrorists, literal, you know, fundamentalist terrorists. But they seem to never want to live in any of these countries. You know, you have, for instance, the queers for Palestine who are obsessed with supporting Hamas, Hezbollah and the Ayatollah, and yet none of them seem to want to take vacation in any of these countries. Which, to me, it's bizarre that if you're so obsessed with something, go live there. There's no reason for you to be in the United States.

[A]

There is actually a great reason for them to live in the United States. They want to conquer it. They want to take it over. Look at New York, Mamdani's. The mayor's mansion there is now. It's a. You know, people are eating with their hands again in the mayor's mansion, and they're sitting on rugs celebrating Ramadan.

[D]

There's a lot of churches around the world that have become mosques. Why not turn, you know, a mayor's mansion into one?

[A]

It's disgusting. So, I mean, yeah, okay, so there is a reason that they're doing this. Ayel. But I think you know that as well. Let's talk about the Temple Israel attack, specifically. This was. And I want to play this, this cut and get your reaction to it. This was on Ms. Now, I found it pretty horrific. They're blaming Trump because the Trump administration has not sufficiently prepared us for national security. Here cut five. There has been questions, real significant, meaningful questions about whether this administration is. Has its eyes on keeping the American public safe.

[C]

It's very clear that the focus at

[B]

the Department of Homeland Security and the folks from the top, many parts of this administration, including the FBI, has been on immigration enforcement, specifically immigration enforcement that leads to the maximum number of. Of deportations. And I don't think you could say that it has been focused on violent extremism or the possibility of terrorism.

[A]

Listen there. Okay, so these are. So they don't even point the finger at the Biden administration who led all these crazy people in unvetted millions. Oh, it's Trump's fault. When you look at what happened at Temple Israel, make it make sense for us.

[F]

I think some of these people wake up and if they, like, stub their toe, they're like, damn it, Trump did it. To me, it's just so ridiculous, the obsession that they have over blaming everything on Trump. This guy who ran his car into the synagogue, came under. Came here under the Obama administration in 2011 and was naturalized again under the Obama administration. The lack of vetting, the lack of secure borders, the lack of even basic diligence on what people are doing once they're actually in the United States. You know, play that clip before of someone praising the ayatollah. For what reason is Dearborn, Michigan, not being monitored for extremism? These aren't talks to one or two people. These are hundreds of people in a room that are constantly hearing over and over again that they're Hezbollah's children, that they're martyrs, that they're the next army of Khomeinian. And there was another clip I posted yesterday, actually of a Christian resident of Dearborn going to a town council meeting and saying that he opposes that a street name in Dearborn is being named after Hezbollah. Hezbollah, mind you, murdered 241 Marines in a Marine barracks bombing in Beirut. And the mayor told him to get out. And then he's being Islamophobic. The stuff that's happening, we become so desensitized to it because it's so frequent that I don't think we understand just how crazy some of this is at this point. You have the Austin shooting, the IED attack. You have the shooting of the ROTC in Virginia. You have the temple bath. I mean, it's just at what point do we say enough is enough and look at Europe and say, I don't actually want this to happen in the United States. We need to take action now before it just gets untenable.

[A]

Ayala, Kobe, keep it up, man. Great for grateful for you making the time today. We're going to have you on again soon.

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Soon.

[A]

God bless you, my friend. Ask us anything comes up next. We'll be right back.

[G]

Welcome to this REAL america's VOICE news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The Federal Reserve's latest survey shows that banks are tightening lending standards. The move comes as many Americans are still feeling the pinch from holidays spending. While you may be struggling to dig yourself out from underneath a mountain of debt, there's hope. Jillian Barbary joins me now to explain how you can take the first step towards being done towards being done with debt. And appropriately, the company she's going to introduce us to is named just that, Done With Debt. Jillian, good morning.

[H]

Hi, Terrence. Always a pleasure to be with you.

[A]

Yes.

[H]

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[G]

Absolutely. And it starts with one phone call. That's free. That doesn't cost you anything, but it could win you some peace of mind.

[H]

It does, Terrence. And when you know your future is on track again, you feel like, okay, I can breathe again and I can be present in the moment instead of having anxiety attacks and popping Xanax like I was doing when it's. It's a nightmare. Anyway, Terrence, thank you, my dear. And it is donewithdet.com thank you for having me on and allowing me to share my story. I really. I really like to share it. So thank you.

[G]

Absolutely. And I'm glad that your story is one of victory, not despair. Always good to see you, Jillian. We appreciate it. Donewithdet.com is the website.

[A]

All right, welcome back. Hour two of the Charlie Kirk show here on Friday, which means it's an Ask Us Anything hour, so you can participate in this. Become a member. Members.charlie kirk.com members.charlie kirk. Com and you come on the show and you ask us questions. And we are welcoming Danny. Yep. Good to be back. Producer Danny's here, as he was. You were here last week. Yeah, I think I was. Yeah. The days bleed together sometimes. So this is our two Ask Us Anything. We are monitoring the hearing right now where the defense has filed a motion to block certain media access. Block certain evidence. We're monitoring that the state is now making its case for why media access and certain evidence does not prejudice a jury. So we are. I mean, it's very procedural. You know, we were planning on just taking it, and then we realized people's eyes are start glazing over because it's very procedural, but we're monitoring for any important clips here. Really quick, before we get started, I want to throw up. 229, this is Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw. He was a victim of yesterday's terrorist attack. And, you know, he was the leader of the university's ROTC at Old Dominion. And I just want to take a second to honor him because he was killed. He was a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Atlantic Resolve. And as Bill Milusian said, it just makes you sick to realize that he survived those conflicts abroad. And he comes home and gets killed by a terrorist. Terrorist here on home soil. Somebody that never should have been walking the streets, that was convicted of being an ISIS sympathizer of terrorist sympathizer. And for some reason he was out on the streets. And so our hearts go out to him and his family and, you know, it's just an awful sight.

[D]

Another person who had a great life and was a great American hero and it was cut short because we have politicians who hate America and hate America's people and endlessly put them last.

[A]

Yep, absolutely. So let's get to our first question. On that note, let's go to Anthony. Welcome back, Anthony. Happy Friday. Happy Friday, guys. How are you all doing? We're doing all right. Yesterday was pretty awful, but with all those attacks. But here we are. Yeah, I would agree with you. So this is an odd question, and I don't know if you guys can

[B]

point me in the right direction.

[A]

Back last week, my local planning board, one of the groups looking to propose a cell phone tower, brought up Maha when saying, you know, about health and everything, that the tower doesn't really give off radiation and the Maha movement doesn't know what they're talking about. And I know people are concerned about this. So my question now is to you guys. How can I get some information or does like Maha have some email I can send something to maybe to get some information from them about this? Because this major company said that that group doesn't know anything. So I'm not an expert on cell phone towers. I can tell you that they, they, they look hideous. Even the ones that are dressed up like trees and things like that. So I'm a bit of a NIMBY when it comes to comes to cell phone towers.

[D]

I'm not a good guy to ask about Maha Blake.

[A]

Blake's a Maha expert. I'm a big Blake thinks everything is like woo woo. He's a woo woo guy. And Blake will eat seed oils till the, till the cows come home, you know, they say. So I'm just looking it up here, though. Cell phone towers emit radio frequency RF radiation, a type of non ionizing electromagnetic radiation used for wireless communication. They, you know, the companies involved in this say that it's safe. All I know is I've had a lot of people tell me, don't put your phone up to your ear. Use, well, use speakerphone or whatever.

[D]

So it's funny because if you go to different communities, like, I don't think know if it's as Common anymore. But for a long time it was common for Asian communities to believe that power lines were really dangerous so you could get a cheaper housing.

[A]

I've heard that. I've heard that power line, yeah.

[D]

Korean, Korea. There used to be a big urban legend that if you were in a room with a fan it could cause you to die. So like you shouldn't be in an enclosed room with a fan. It would kill you overnight. Well, and they would even have automatic shut offs.

[A]

There's Blake is. Yeah, well okay, it sounds silly to

[D]

us but then you probably. I wouldn't be surprised if in China they share funny stories where like Americans think the cell phone tower will be used to mind control them or something.

[A]

So it says this is a study I'm looking at. It says overall, while regulatory bodies maintain that cell to radiation is not harmful at typical distances, for example a few hundred meters away, where exposure drops sharply. Ongoing research and some evidence point to potential risks that warrant further investigations, particularly for long term continuous exposure. But here's what I'm going to do. Anthony. I am going to contact Alex Clark on your question about this and see if she has any good resources and we'll email you back and if it's newsworthy enough we'll talk about on the show. I've been planning on getting Alex on with us so maybe we can do it then as well. You can also let her know this. They're putting it actually right next to

[B]

one of our massive apple farms.

[A]

Oh, interesting. So. So an agricultural impact. Yeah, that's what some people are trying to wonder. And there's Rhett, it's, it's on the corner of like the northwest corner of

[B]

my county, like right before the next county.

[A]

There's a massive apple farm there that's on both sides and there's how there's normal houses because it rides right on Lake Ontario. And I'll tell you the company, it's Verizon.

[D]

I mean I'll be.

[A]

Verizon specifically mentioned Maha.

[D]

I feel like I'd be blunt. If they're worried about cell towers. I feel like it probably makes more sense to have it near apples than people. If they're worried about that sort of thing.

[A]

Yeah, it does. But there's still houses. There's still houses.

[D]

But in the end I guess I as the skeptic, I like to emphasize there's a lot of people and we can see the terminal stage of this in Europe where people will use health justifications, environmental justifications to basically push left wing agendas that are Essentially anti civilization. In Europe at this point, their economy is tanking because they've essentially made electricity illegal building new power plants illegal. In Germany, Volkswagen is laying off thousands of workers because it's just too expensive to get the electricity to build cars. And if you're the left, that's a smashing success. You're getting rid of civilization. And it's gotten to the point where China's aware of this. We have ample evidence of Chinese agents funding environmental activism in the United States to sabotage building microchip plants, to sabotage building other infrastructure because they know it makes America weaker. So. So that's my skeptical take. I know a lot of people are much more supportive of Maha stuff. You should talk to Alex Clark.

[A]

Yeah. You know what this reminds me of though, is The San Francisco 49ers, how they're close to that electrical substation and all the players. Yeah.

[D]

And then players are like, that's why we get hurt.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So I mean, their entire team, every year does. All I'm gonna say is, I bet the Green Bay packers all the time.

[A]

What was that? What was it?

[D]

Anthony?

[A]

I'm a Niners fan, so yeah, I

[B]

have to agree with the players on this one.

[D]

I'm just gonna say the packers are in a small city. They still get injured all of the time.

[A]

I mean, it's football, but the Niners, it's football.

[D]

Well, it's the Niners, it's their best. I'm gonna blame every cell phone towers for us losing to the Bears and the quarterback.

[A]

Yeah, it's always in their whiteouts. It's always the quarterback in the whiteouts. Anthony, good. Good to have you back on. Hopefully we hear from you again soon. And I'm gonna tell you guys about balance of nature. Listen, we're talking about nutrition. Don't listen to Blake. Take care of your health. He takes, he does drink. Well, I don't wanna merge streams here, but every week there is a new powder, a new lab created formula, some new breakthrough. But here's the truth. What we've been told since kids is true. You need your fruits and vegetables. Nobody really explained why, but the reason is, is when you eat whole foods, you get phytonutrients. Okay? Those natural compounds your body uses to adjust, repair and respond every single day. That's not hype. That's just the way God made us. So you need your fruits and veggies. That's why I take Balance of Nature. That's why we support it on the show. They use a tailored vacuum cold process that stabilizes the phytonutrition in fruits and vegetables. We've been working with balance of nature for years now because this stuff actually is good for you, and it actually works. Their Whole Health System™ Whole Health System includes fruits and veggies, plus fibers and spice. 47 ingredients in one simple routine. I take it myself, if you want to fight the good fight, go to balanceofnature.com to subscribe and save today. Join hundreds of thousands of customers in one simple routine that's changing their lives and they're making their health better. Go to balanceofnature.com go and subscribe to the whole health system. That's the key. We'll be right back. More Ask us anything. Don't go anywhere. All right. Welcome back. The of no note from the hearing. They just referenced McVeigh. The United States versus McVeigh case.

[D]

Oh, boy.

[A]

I guess that was the state making their point in defense of allowing media access and access to some of the evidence. Fascinating, fascinating stuff, but it's. Man, I'm telling you, it's very procedural. The team's watching it. We definitely will give you updates if there's something worth bringing up on the show. We'll play the clip here. I want to tell you really quickly about why refinances distressed and default to private student loans that others will not touch. Obviously, we care about students. Charlie cared about students. We know a lot of you have a ton of student debt that you cannot pay, and your education didn't give you a job where you are making enough money to make your payments. So if that's your situation, you have private student loan debt, or if you're the parent of a student that has private student loan debt and you're in trouble, please call the folks at Y refi. They can help refinance, get you a payment that you can. You can reach every month, and they'll save you thousands of dollars. You can go onto their website, see testimonials of their monthly payments and their debt load before and after working with yrefi. This is real stuff. So check them out yrefi.com or call them 888 yrefi34. We're all in with those guys. They're great Americans, great patriots. All right, next question. We've got Mick. Please unmute yourself. Welcome to the Charlie Kurt show.

[D]

It's not.

[A]

It's Joe. Joe.

[C]

There we go.

[A]

Joe.

[D]

Joe, unmute yourself, Joe.

[A]

Unmute yourself.

[D]

Joe, you there?

[A]

And if Joe's not there, we're gonna go to Mick.

[D]

I Guess Joe's not there. Okay, now it is. Mick is next. All right, Mick, unmute yourself. And what's your question?

[A]

Oh, you had me scrambling there for a minute.

[E]

Alrighty.

[A]

So with these Islam attacks. Sorry, I'm out of breath.

[D]

I was walking around with these Islam

[A]

attacks that have happened lately. Obviously Islam is not compatible with Western society, as Charlie talked about repeatedly. And so we do need to denaturalize people who believe fully in the Quran

[D]

that believes that we should kill non Muslims.

[A]

But the problem with that is that as Islam is classified as a religion, there's a First Amendment protection. And so how do we effectively denaturalize those citizens that do believe that we should kill the intifada, if you will, while not violating the First Amendment. This, this will be litigated.

[D]

It will, absolutely. And I mean, it's tough. I know you run sometimes. You'll see the take that Islam is not really a religion, it's a political ideology. I see where it comes from, but I will be blunt. It is a religious system by any reasonable standard. And America, as you're correct, America has freedom of religion. America has free exercise of religion. And it's not a good thing if we suddenly are trying to carve out an exception where we just say this one, actually we can ban this one because who knows what that could be used against next. Certainly by our enemies. But that is not necessarily incompatible with us recognizing big picture. It's not good if America becomes more Islamic, that we could say Muslims in America have the right to free exercise. But we've seen in the uk, in France, in Germany, that increasing the Islamic percentage of a country is bad for its long term prospects, bad for its social harmony, bad for Western civilization, and we should avoid continuing to engineer that. And so as you say, first of all, we don't need to pass a lot denaturalizing all Muslims. The guy we just had on in the first hour, the senator, his bill is to denaturalize people who support terrorism, who get involved in terrorism, welfare fraud and welfare fraud and all of that. That, and certainly with support for terrorism, that's going to be targeting the people who are most likely to embrace Islamic radicalism. And as we've seen with some of the groups that are involved in a lot of welfare fraud, that's also some of the groups driving the Islamization of America. So go after the crimes. And if that has a collateral effect that isn't, that doesn't mean the law itself is unconstitutional. But also we can just say, okay, we're going to adjust our immigration policies either by cutting immigration overall or changing which countries we accept it from to avoid increasing the Muslim percentage of the United States. We can do all of these things without violating the Constitution, without getting rid of freedom of religion. We are in fact allowed to say and prioritize that, okay, even if we have freedom of religion, we should keep America more Christian in its identity. We should not have America become an Islamic country. All of those things are compatible with the First Amendment and we should for as a result, because it's possible to do that, we should avoid passing maybe bills that feel emotionally satisfying but are unconstitutional. You don't want someone to come out and just say, oh, we're going to ban all mosques or we're going to ban Islamic practice. Because then, yeah, you are just asking get smacked down by the court. Do the things that we very easily can do without violating the Constitution that will produce a lot of good long term benefits.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, please do. So I guess my follow up is, you know, how do we build a coalition around that? We can say, we can say these things that oh, we just want to get the terrorists out, but I think the left will be, will try and, you know, call our bluff and say,

[D]

no, you just want to get rid of all Muslims. I think a lot of, you know, you have to be fearless. The answer is you have to be fearless. We're seeing this in Europe where for a long time they lived in fear, but way more people are actually just having the courage to step up and say, look in the UK for example, they say, well, we can look at London, we can look at Birmingham, we can look at Manchester. These cities have Islamically motivated rape gangs. They're having Sharia start creeping into their schools. They're changing school policy where you can't offend Muslims even though they're still a small minority of the overall country. And people are just standing up and saying, we don't have to support this, we can oppose this. You can call us racist or bigots and actually we don't care because there is nothing wrong with what we are advocating.

[A]

Well, and by the way, Nigel Farage and Advance uk, they are going to win a majority. If the election was held today, they would win.

[D]

And so that fearlessness is working in Europe and we just need to have that same fearlessness in the us. The willingness to speak up as Charlie did, as others are doing, has that ability to engineer its own coalition. A lot of the reason these coalitions don't exist is because people were afraid to create it, in my opinion.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead, Danny. Well, we saw this with, like, the transgender debate and how that came around with Matt Walsh and all that. We see it.

[D]

It's a great point.

[A]

Yeah. The illegal immigration, now how that's fully won Trump the election. So these issues, you can grow coalition by speaking up and actually bringing it to the floor.

[D]

Genderism, so great. Everyone was terrified to say it, and we needed a little bit of a push. We needed a more free speech platform. So we owe Elon Musk a lot on that front. But once it became possible for people to speak up honestly, it was really difficult to contain an idea that a lot of people were very ready to agree with. There's a thing called a preference cascade. Sometimes everyone is against something until finally one person steps up and says the other thing, and that gives the next person the courage to say, oh, I actually agree with Trump on immigration.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And once there's two people who do it now there's 10 people. And once there's 10, you get the next 15. And that continues until you actually have a majority of the country behind something.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with Blake. You have to do it respecting the Constitution. But guess what? We don't want any more Muslim immigration. I'm saying it. So let's stop the bleeding, first of all. The second thing I would say is go into every mosque that's radicalizing young men, go into every website that's radicalizing young men to commit acts of terror into, you know, ISIS sympathizing websites. Block them all. Block them. I don't care what you got to do that you, you, you prosecute where you can absolutely send a huge loud message. We'll be right back.

[G]

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[A]

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[D]

I'm shaking.

[A]

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[D]

Something feels a bit different.

[A]

Yeah, something.

[D]

I feel like I think I have more energy.

[A]

You look brighter, lighter. Something.

[D]

Yeah, I think there's a. I must have a special.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I can see on the camera I have a bit more glow to my skin.

[A]

Yeah, your eyes perked up. Yeah.

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I think it's because I've taken it for a few weeks straight.

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[D]

Maybe we can help.

[A]

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[D]

No.

[A]

What? Oh, wait. Sorry. I'm sorry. This is great. Who bought real hair? I want to read some wig on your head. I want to read some.

[D]

You've been bald this whole time and you're wearing a wig?

[A]

Yes, exactly. This is all fake and I'm losing it slowly doing this segment. All right, I'm going to read some of your emails here real quick. Aaron says I'm against cell phone towers around houses and farmlands. Don't hurt the people and the food. There is hazardous effects. Vernon says he's a 5G is modifying the way people act. We can ignore it now and suffer the consequences. So I agree with that.

[D]

5G is modified in how people act because they're on their cell phones all the time and on social media all the time.

[A]

That's what I mean. Something different. Tammy says yes, cell towers are very damaging to humans. RFK has all kinds of documents and studies on the damage. So Blake needs to do some deep research on Yandex or Free Spoke, not G. So there's your instruction. Mary says Republican senators have now pledged to use a standing talking filibuster to force a vote on the Save America act. But these 25 GOP senators still have not. Call them out. Yes, leave a message. You should call them out. Barrasso, Bozeman, Shelley Moore. Capito, Tom Cotton, Susan Collins, Kevin Kramer, Mike Crapo, John Curtis, Steve Daines, Deb Fisher, Lindsey Graham, Chuck Grassley, John Hovind, John Kennedy, who he just had on this week. John Kennedy, by the way, said he's in favor of putting it in the reconciliation bill. So there's maybe. Maybe that's what some of these guys are doing. Lankford, get him out the of Congress for all I care. Mitch McConnell, he's on his way out. Jerry Morin, Lisa Murkowski, Pete Ricketts, Tim Scott, John Thune, Thom Tellis, Roger Wicker, Todd Young, if your senator is on that list, please call them asap. David says we should not allow dual citizens. I actually agree, totally agree. Go all in for America or don't go in at all. Just leave, go to the other one. What else do we Got here. So basically, Jax has a point. He says any religion that justifies murder is a cult. So he doesn't think it should qualify. I think that would be legally dubious to try and classify Islam as a cult. And I just. I don't know.

[D]

I don't think that necessarily has clear legal distinctions. Yeah, I mean, you can't just do illegal things just because your religion calls

[A]

you to do it.

[D]

You aren't allowed to do murder, you aren't allowed to do robbery. You aren't allowed to do a bunch of things just because you say your religion ordains it. But as long as you're not doing those things, even if your religion is associated with that, just. We have a pretty broad freedom of religion in the United States, just like we have by far the broadest freedom of speech laws in the world. We should protect those things. We want to protect those things. And one reason we should resist letting

[A]

in

[D]

too much Islamic immigration is because it will imperil that tradition of ours. Because if we start having a non stop problem of radical Islam and radical Islamic attacks, that is how you're going to end up losing freedom of religion in this country.

[A]

Your friend says, you know, he says he wants a response. Issue is sedition and treason. Prosecute and firing squads or work camps. It's pretty.

[D]

That's. That's one approach.

[A]

That's one approach again, we have to do what's actually doable. Yeah.

[D]

Let's get to our next guy in the queue. I think we have Jonathan next. Jonathan, unmute yourself and what's your question?

[A]

So I have two questions. Hey, Blake, how it goes?

[D]

Howdy.

[A]

I don't know if you remember me or not.

[D]

Did we meet at America Fest or in an email?

[A]

All right. Yes, we did. So, yeah, my dad had a heart attack and actually Charlie Kirk was the reason. He's doing so well because we were so much closer to a good art hospital down in Arizona when I took him on vacation where we live. I'm wondering, did you ever get a chance to read that email I sent you on my opposing abortion lesson and what your thoughts were on it?

[D]

I. I think I did.

[A]

Although, just.

[D]

I'll be. I'll be truthful. We do get a large number of yields. Do you want to remind me what the. What the key points of it were?

[A]

The key points were, basically, we need to protect innocent lives from the moment of conception. Everyone is designed by God to have a relationship with him. And it is actually really helpful for America in terms of how we repent and how we actually bring people back to God is how we protect the unborn and restore marriage. And that's the basic idea.

[D]

Well, I mean, obviously I think all of us agree with that. I think Charlie agrees with that, or Charlie obviously would agree with that. We do need to fight for the unborn from, from the moment of conception because that is a human life from the beginning. Now I would, we would discuss this with Charlie. What is the best way to go about that? Because a thing I once told Charlie that I, you know, impressed, had a big effect on him is I talked about how in Canada. We've talked a lot about Canada. In Canada, the pro life movement basically doesn't exist. Yeah, they have a conservative party, but there's not really any party that offers a real constituency for pro life voices. Abortion is effectively totally unregulated in Canada. You just. An unborn child does not exist until they come out of the mother. And before that you can do anything you want. You can basically kill them up to the moment of birth. No crime is committed, no regulations exist. And I've always made the point to Charlie, we have to be careful with our approach to abortion laws because we should pass the strongest law that are capable of holding up if we are aggressive to the point where we just lose elections. Here's what you get. You get Democrats passing Canada style laws and you get squishes in the Republican Party who say we lost because we were too anti abortion. We need to get these people out of the coalition. There were people absolutely ready to do that in 2024. If Trump had lost, they would have said we lost because of this pro life people. Get them out of the coalition. Thankfully it didn't happen. Thankfully we were able to win. We have more pro life policies as a result. Thankfully, we've even had, in Florida and South Dakota, we had pro abortion measures fail at the ballot box. But I would say, and Charlie would say, I think that this, you do have to view this as a long war that you have to keep doing the effort to win over other Christians, to win over non believers on this issue, to change hearts and minds bit by bit. So if you're a conservative, that's one

[A]

of the reasons I want to be able to get a lesson on it and I want you to review it

[C]

and let me know what you think.

[D]

Okay, well, feel free to send it again. Freedomarliekirk. We can take a look at it again.

[A]

Yeah, I do want to flag something here just because we got a lot of emails about the cell phone towers. Oh man. Yeah. So William says, I retired as an RF engineer approving locations of cell towers. And I said, are they cells safe? He wrote back, basically, cell towers are safe because the FCC has defined safe distances for near field and far field at microwave frequency. Distances less than 3 meters, near field, far field, which are dependent on operating frequencies. We found that the majority of objections to cell towers are aesthetic, not radiation. The exposure from your kitchen. Microwave is more. So that's, that's from William, who was a guy that worked approving locations for cell towers. It's a, an interesting, an interesting perspective. I just wanted to work it in. Who's, who's next?

[D]

We got

[A]

rain, rain, rain. Welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself. Hello. Hi. Welcome. Hey, guys. Thank you for calling on me, first of all. Absolutely. I called y' all before. It was pretty shortly after Charlie's brutal assassination. And you, I don't know if you remember, I told you about the bracelet that I was still wearing. Yes, yes, I remember you. Yes. Yeah. So anyway, I want you guys to know I pray for y' all every day. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, God. I pray for y' all in what? Anyway, I just try and I know I shared the story about my daughter, about how she was, I don't know if I can say this on air, how she was raped by the New Orleans police officer and the five long dragged out years that it took for us to get justice and just how much I plugged into Charlie every day. And, and that was definitely part of my therapy, you know, that got me through those years.

[D]

And.

[A]

Anyway, okay, moving along. So my question, or, you know, there's a multi level question. So the midterms, Trump's win was undoubtedly due to Charlie's influence and everything that y' all did, you know, to put people, you know, if they flew in because I had signed up, I wanted to come to Arizona and help y', all and I couldn't because of my, my dog at the time. I didn't have anybody to watch him. But y' all were everywhere, Wisconsin, Arizona. I forget the other states, but. Well, are you asking, are we going to do that in the future? Yeah. Are y' all planning to do something with the midterms? Yeah. So I'll, I'll give you the, I'll give you the rundown here. So at Turning Point Action, we're already staffing up, up for the midterms, like all over the country, but we're going to be focused on three main states. And the reason, I'll explain the reason for that. And this was Charlie's plan, by the way. We're calling it the red wall because the way the census has shifted population to the Sun Belt, you can actually, if you bring in New Hampshire, which a lot of people don't understand, has more conservatives, more registered Republicans than Democrats. If you take New Hampshire, which, by the way, also at the state level, Blake has a lot more Republicans elected than Democrats. You bring in Nevada, you hold Nevada, you hold Arizona. That creates the red wall. So not only is it gonna have huge impacts in the midterms, but it's going to help us keep winning on the national level in 2028. We can address that more in just a second. I wanna tell you guys about Hillsdale. Hillsdale University was the Charlie's favorite and he took 31 online courses. 31 online courses. So go to charlieforhilsdale.com to enroll today. One of the courses that he actually took was the Genesis story, taught by Hillsdale professor, the great Dr. Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path toward reconciliation. It is a real college course. It's rigorous, it's challenging, it's thoughtful, and it's accessible to anybody who's willing to learn. So learn like Charlie. Go to charlieforhillsdale.com Take this course today. You can sign up for a bunch of other ones as well. It's the beacon of the North America's greatest college, Hillsdale. Charlieforhillsdale.com enroll today. Check it out and we will be right back. More of your questions on the other side of this break. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to highlight the great work our team is doing. Charliekirkstore.com Heidi Every day is packaging up stuff and sending it off. Charliekirkstore.com so if you want to get some of Charlie's favorites, the Never Surrender all time, one of our top sellers. People love that one. Here I am. I still remember when Charlie I asked for the here I am. Actually, Jesus saves so many others online. Charliekirkstore.com please check it out today. And we're gonna get to our next question. Here are we, who are we doing?

[D]

Do I do. Ian.

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Ian. Ian. Ian. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Unmute yourself, please. Hey, guys, how you doing? Can you hear me? Great. Awesome. Well, it's been a been a long week, but I was just curious how been doing a lot of discipleship classes and you know, Hillsdale as well too, has been great. I was just curious how can we all be better disciples and kind of tie things back to Jesus? Because I feel like a lot of times I'll get in a discussion with someone and I'll like, make my point. I'm like, man, I could have tied that back to Jesus afterwards. So I'm just wondering how we can all do. All do better about that. Because Charlie was magnificent about that to the point where people had to ask him, without the Bible, can you defend abortion or can you defend this? So how can we all do better like that? Yeah, I would just say that Charlie was pretty adamant about being able to defend his positions from both a secular perspective using logic and the Socratic method. And he was also able to do that from a biblical perspective. So I would just say that, you know, trust the spirit, listen to the spirit. When you feel the Holy Spirit nudging you to bring up. Up the Lord in a specific conversation, do so. But don't always necessarily. You don't always have to feel like you have to, you know, I would say wait for that moment and pray about it, be listening. You know, sometimes Christians can be guilty of forcing it in where it doesn't naturally fit or if it's not the right time. And that could be, I don't know, sometimes it could be a turn off. But listen, I think when you're talking, Charlie did a lot of extemporaneous speaking, a lot of public, public addresses where he would. Then it was very appropriate for him to bring it in and to weave in his faith into his speaking, because that's what he was doing. But in those interactions between folks, I would say, I don't know, Danny, like 80% of the time he wouldn't bring it up, you know, so it just kind of depended on the nature of that exchange. If he was gonna weave that, it was by.

[D]

Each person was different.

[A]

So based off how to go about it, but also just, you have to memorize scripture. That was a big thing that obviously we see in all the videos that Charlie was so good at that. But just reading the Bible and focusing on trying to memorize certain scripture or just themes in scripture will help you a lot when tying stuff back. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I mean, big picture, I think about it. Charlie was big about building habits. And the way you get better at it is you steadily build the habit. The same way you go to the gym more often. If you make a big point of go every single day for, or, you know, go three times a week for a month straight, two months straight, you now have that habit once you Start the habit, you'll stick to it. So if you make a point where anytime you're in, you know, maybe have like a clicker in your head, something to remind you, some sort of thing to remind you, where anytime I'm in a discussion about a moral issue or political issue, find a way to bring it back to Christ, back to the gospel, after a while, you'll be doing it automatically.

[A]

And I would say again, use the Socratic method. Charlie was expert at this, where you just, you ask questions and you, you, you drill down to the core fundamental objection that somebody has or disagreement or where you feel like they're getting something wrong. And once you get to that core motivator, that core driver, I find that more often than not, then you're getting to a moral question, right? So you stop arguing about maybe some specific or small little minutiae, you're getting to a core fundamental value proposition. And then when you drill down that deep, do you find out what's really getting at them? Then I think it becomes more fundamental, it becomes more important to bring up where your moral drivers are, where your value foundations are coming from. And then you bring up scripture, you bring up the Lord. So hopefully that helps. Ian, thanks for your question. We're going to go to Brandon. Brandon, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Good morning, guys. Morning.

[D]

So my question is, it's something I wanted to ask Charlie, but I never got around to it. And it's, what are your guys's thoughts or takes on the sociological debate regarding nature versus nurture?

[A]

I have a lot, but I have,

[D]

I have quite, I sometimes, I, I sometimes sum it up that people genuinely, they really, really want to believe it's almost all nurture. I would say if you look at studies say, but if you look at a lot of the evidence that's emerged over the last few decades, it's generally been tilting more and more towards nature for a lot of things, which is actually good news. Like I think a lot of, for example, I think a reason a lot of people don't have as many kids in the US is they get obsessed with the idea that they have to do everything perfectly or it's all over for their kids. They'll fail out of school, they'll become drug addicts. And actually, if, if you're, you know, a pretty good responsible parent and you're married to another good, responsible person, chances are the child you have will be good and responsible without you needing to kill yourselves to bring it about. And that's generally good news. That's A reason to have more kids. That's a reason to be more relaxed about a lot of things. And it also means on the end, we don't necessarily need to move heaven and earth. Like, we've got infinity programs where they say, okay, well, if we spend another $300,000, we can rehabilitate this criminal, because the real problem is he was just raised in a bad home. No, some people are just rotten, and the best thing to do is just remove them from society that stinks. But that's how it is.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I've been contemplating this question a lot. Blake and I have had discussions offline about it. You know, this is one of the reasons why we love and want to protect Western civilization. We believe it's the product of thousands of years, and it doesn't mean white people or anything. I'm talking about the cultural upbringing of people in Western civilization and the fact that, you know, we had centuries with really, really strict laws, right, where people would, you know, they were basically killing a lot of people that stole. If you stole a horse, if you stole. Like, they would literally just. We've been essentially purging the society for years of criminal elements, and now we're getting soft on it. And you're seeing a lot of people that basically are still on the streets that shouldn't be. And we're seeing this with repeat offenders that shouldn't be. I do think that, you know, as a result, like, there are cultures that just succeed much better. You see this. Asian cultures are massively efficient. And I think that you have to reject tabula rasa in a general sense. And then you have to balance that with your Christian ethics that we are all children of God and we are all made in the image and likeness of God. So it's a bit of a balance, and there's a bit of both. And. But I think Blake. I tend to agree with Blake's take. Does that answer your question? Yes, it does. I know it's a sociological question, and

[D]

sociology gets a lot of hate, but I think that question and the. Is human nature good or bad? Are two fundamental questions to the way of life. Sociology could be a real field if it just had serious people do it. It could be. There's so many interesting things in sociology

[A]

that question, though, are people fundamentally good or bad? A lot of people get this wrong because they. Especially Christians, because they say, we're sinners, so we're bad.

[D]

Well, the Pope even said at one

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point that we're all born as good.

[D]

And he.

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Yes, the point is God made us good. And then there was a fall. Yep, we were made good. Then there was a fall. And that's why we have laws and locked doors. So. Wish I could get to that more. We will be back on Monday. See you then. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.