The Charlie Kirk Show, March 16, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show — March 16, 2026

Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show centers on the current state and definition of the MAGA movement amid international turmoil, GOP factionalism, and the 2026 South Carolina Senate primary. Host Charlie Kirk, with co-host Blake, is joined by Jack Posobiec, Libby Emmons, and Senate candidates Paul Danz and Mark Lynch. They debate what it means to be “MAGA” in 2026, foreign policy divides on the right, and the political and cultural moment post-Oscars. The episode concludes with back-to-back interviews with two leading contenders to unseat Lindsey Graham.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Defining “MAGA” in 2026

[10:47–16:59] What Is MAGA Now?

• Blake introduces the day's theme: “What is MAGA now, especially in the context of Iran, the e-drama, and the splintering on the right?”
• Trump’s recent Truth Social post supporting Mark Levin during an Iran policy spat with Megyn Kelly reignites questions about whether MAGA is just Trump—or more.
  • Blake: “[Trump] ran on that slogan. He has the power to define what that slogan is. But does everyone feel that way?... Is there a MAGA that stands separately from the president himself?”

[14:02–17:00] Jack Posobiec: Changing Coalitions

• Posobiec tracks the evolution of MAGA from 2016 (“anti-neocons, Bernie Bros, traditional Republicans”) to 2024 (Coalition now includes anti-woke, anti-mandate, libertarians, younger ‘Zoomers’).

  • “Donald Trump is the founder of the MAGA movement. But just like any coalition, there are going to be different elements within that movement... Victory is through addition, not subtraction.”

• Coalitional friction is unsurprisingly sharpest around foreign policy, especially given the deepening divide between interventionists and non-interventionists as the Iran conflict expands.

[17:00–18:36] Foreign Policy Fractures

• Charlie and panel note that nothing is dividing the right more than the Iran war. This is natural given historic rifts between neocons and non-interventionists.
• Discussion on the uncertainty of the Iran conflict and potential for unintended consequences.

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The Iran Conflict and Trump’s Press Conference

[22:22–30:45] Trump’s Live Update on Iran

• Excerpts from a press conference by President Trump: He speaks on U.S. naval attacks on Iranian mine-laying ships, calls on other nations (Japan, China, Europeans) to defend their own oil interests, and asserts American energy independence (“we drill, baby, drill”).
  • “We strongly encourage other nations whose economies depend on this strait far more than ours... We get less than 1% of our oil from this strait. Some countries get much more. Japan gets 95%, China gets 90%.”
  • Trump claims “all 30 of their [Iran’s] mine-laying ships have been destroyed... at the bottom of the sea.”
  • Praises oil deals with Venezuela, criticizes other nations for lack of ‘enthusiasm’ in cooperative defense.

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The Meaning & Future of MAGA

[34:55–41:45] With Libby Emmons and Jack Posobiec

• Libby Emmons: Argues MAGA is not reducible to Trump but is “a set of values and perspectives,” including domestic prosperity, opportunity, meritocracy, and focus on American priorities.
  • “MAGA has to be a set of values more than it can be possibly just one man... Otherwise you can’t stand for anything.” (36:44)
• Jack Posobiec: Offers analytic distinction: MAGA (Trump-loyal, leader-centric) vs. America First (domestic-only, issues-driven, even attracting some Democrats).
  • “If there is a split anymore, it’s not within MAGA. The split is more MAGA and then America First.” (37:26)
  • “Democrats’ next move is going to be to say, ‘Oh, you guys are for foreign intervention. We are the true America First, so watch for that.’” (39:55)

[41:45–43:33] The Right’s Hierarchy & Future Beyond Trump

• Panel discusses the hierarchical, leader-following tendency on the right. Even when differing on policy (e.g., Iran), the impulse is to back Trump as the lone “fighter who embodies the values we care most about.”
• Concerns about lack of a clear post-Trump label or identity; suggestion to develop a new “America First” movement distinct from Trump alone.
• “Trump will not be around forever. Trump will eventually be gone. And we still want a movement that is not neocon GOP, that is not George Bush GOP.” — Blake (40:10)

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Foreign Policy: Loyalty, Skepticism & War

[43:33–45:15] Supporting Troops Amid Uncertainty

• Panel unanimously agrees: “Arguing about whether or not we should back our troops is not something we should argue about. Everyone should be backing our troops.” — Libby Emmons (43:33)
• Libby, though antiwar, hopes for victory and safe return of U.S. troops but warns about repeating past mistakes and political ramifications.
• Concern: Democrats could exploit the split and rebrand themselves as true “America First” if Republicans aren’t careful.

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Cultural Commentary: The Oscars & ‘Halftime Show’ Battle

[49:06–54:29] Conservatives, Popular Culture, and Audience Reach

• The panel reacts to “alternate Oscars” and SNL parodies of Tucker Carlson, celebrating Turning Point USA’s “halftime show” streaming audience (claimed: 50 million+).
  • “Conan, Turning Point USA blew, absolutely blew the Oscars out of the water.” — Jack Posobiec (54:47)
• Libby Emmons: Observes Hollywood, like ballet, may be a ‘dying art form’ with declining audience.
• Both conservative and mainstream institutions now vying for the mantle of “real America” and access to mass audiences.

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South Carolina Senate Debate: Danz vs. Lynch

[67:08–85:40] Paul Danz Interview

• Danz pitches himself as the generational change, Trump-aligned candidate, Project 2025 architect, and anti-neocon.
• Priorities: End filibuster, make U.S. policy “America First,” bring shop class & homesteading back, opioid crisis, infrastructure, ending H1B visas, immigration moratorium.
  • “Look, I’m jettisoning the filibuster day one... I am a real conservative, an America first guy.” (71:23)
  • On opioid crisis: “The Sacklers... declared war here on our populations. So we’re now stepping back from that, saying how do we fix South Carolina?”
• Danz addresses Trump’s earlier Graham endorsement: “I jumped in this race in August. It's because I couldn’t hold my nose... I’ve been a Trump guy from the jump...” (80:16)
• Blasts Graham for warmongering and “frothing at the mouth” for foreign conflicts.

[90:56–110:41] Mark Lynch Interview

• Lynch positions himself as the only lifelong South Carolinian (vs. Danz: “Paul’s never lived here... he’s from New York, resides in Maryland”), a non-attorney, successful businessman, and “God First” candidate.
• Priorities: End filibuster, “net zero” immigration (illegal and legal), stopping H1B visas, focus on homegrown issues, massive budget cuts—especially targeting “unconstitutional agencies.”
  • “America’s full. We’ve got to get rid of the illegal aliens in here and deport them.” (94:54)
  • “[On Social Security and senior entitlements]...if we could close down unconstitutional agencies...that would bring back 80% of our budget.” (107:36)
• Lynch is endorsed by General Mike Flynn, echoes hardline views on Sharia and CAIR, and is deeply skeptical of military intervention or U.S. aid abroad—especially when the U.S. is “$38 trillion in debt.”
  • “If Netanyahu called and I was sitting with Trump, I'd say, 'Hey, we were just fixing to call you to ask for some money. We're broke over here.'” (104:55)
• On Israel: “I love Israel... but if I go to the US Senate, I work for America, and we have our own sovereignty right here to protect.”
• Finishes: “Making God first again will be the key to making America great again. That’ll just be the fruit if we can bring God back into Congress.” (109:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I think that it takes a certain amount of arrogance, and I’m also going to say it, a bit of racism to constantly talk about people like they are savages.” — Charlie Kirk on language about Iran (05:39)
• “This is why President Trump was elected... It’s the man in the arena that counts.” (49:36)
• “Twos and threes and fours were watching our halftime show... Conan, you have not had anything that's rated in 20-plus years.” — Jack Posobiec, critiquing pop culture (54:58)
• “I want to make this a place for our kids so the next generation can have kids and come together and live as God intended in a land of milk and honey here in South Carolina.” — Paul Danz (70:24)
• “We've got to get rid of the illegal aliens and deport them. They know they're illegal. A lot of them are terrorists.” — Mark Lynch (94:54)
• “I love Israel... but if I go to the US Senate, I work for America.” — Mark Lynch (104:55)
• “I will get Fauci in an orange jumpsuit. Okay? That’s what I’m going to do.” — Paul Danz (83:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Definition of MAGA (Introduction): 10:46–18:36
• Foreign Policy Split/Iran War: 17:00–22:22
• Trump’s Iran Press Conference (Live): 22:22–30:45
• Coalition, “America First,” and Values debate: 34:55–43:33
• Oscars and Culture Wars: 49:06–56:39
• Senate Candidate Paul Danz (interview): 67:08–85:41
• Senate Candidate Mark Lynch (interview): 90:56–110:41

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Episode Tone

• Energetic, urgent, candid. The episode is conversational with occasional humor but often pivots to intense debate, especially over the “soul” of the right, Trump loyalty, and the perils of U.S. foreign entanglements.
• The hosts and guests maintain a frank, sometimes combative debate style, especially when contrasting the Senate candidates.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode offers a pulse check on the American right in 2026. The Charlie Kirk team debate the definition and future of the MAGA movement—struggling with internal rifts exposed by war with Iran, leadership questions, and cultural divides. The second hour features back-to-back interviews with two Republicans vying to unseat Lindsey Graham in South Carolina’s GOP Senate primary, each offering their sharply drawn vision for Trump-era conservatism in a changing America.

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Transcript

[Libby Emmons]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Paul Danz]

But did it ever occur to you

[Blake]

that maybe you don't know everything about me?

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Paul Danz]

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[Blake]

I didn't think of it as a Mr. Too. Well, you know what?

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Paul Danz]

No, I'm not scared.

[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Blake]

War. Anyway, guys, me, Donald Trump, you might remember me from such campaign promises as lower gas prices and no more wars. I have everything under control, okay? I've been meeting with the nation's top minds. Jake, Paul. He was booed very badly at the Mike Dyson fight.

[Mark Lynch]

We hate to hear boos.

[Charlie Kirk]

Someone say booze.

[Blake]

Pete Hank said, as I live and struggle to breathe.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's great to see you, Mr. President. Before we begin, I just want to thank you sincerely for these beautiful size 16 Florsheim shoes. They fit me like a glove.

[Blake]

Happy to do it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like a clown's glove. If you're wondering why I was in the back seat of this random family's car, I'll tell you the same thing I say when people ask about our plans for Iran. I don't know.

[Blake]

Isn't that wonderful? Well, I'm going to wander around.

[Charlie Kirk]

Great. Thank you for everything, sir.

[Mark Lynch]

Iran was the head of the snake. The head of the. The snake for global terrorism everywhere, whether it was through their proxies or there were Iranian guard members in Venezuela, there's Hezbollah in Colombia, they're interacting with Cuba. Everywhere that there is chaos and terrorist mayhem, it is Iran.

[Charlie Kirk]

Some of the language and the description

[Mark Lynch]

of their opponent, sort of the way

[Charlie Kirk]

they seem to create this image of the Iranians and all of their sort of proxies or allies, the sort of imagery that they conjure up. And I think that it takes a certain amount of arrogance, and I'm also going to say it a bit of racism to constantly talk about people like they are savages.

[Mark Lynch]

That is a word that we have heard hegseth use. Tomorrow and Wednesday we will hear directly

[Charlie Kirk]

from the CIA Director, the FBI director and the Director of National Intelligence in

[Mark Lynch]

front of two different committees, one on each day. Americans concerned about a potential homegrown attack. You mentioned last week at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia where one was killed, others were injured. This man killed by ROTC students. He was a former Army National Guard member who spent almost a decade in prison for supporting isis.

[Charlie Kirk]

And as you mentioned, the man in

[Mark Lynch]

Michigan who rammed a truck into a synagogue temple Israel with children and teachers inside. The attacker died. Luckily no innocent people were seriously injured. And as you mentioned, Israeli officials say the the attacker's brother was a commander in Hezbollah taken out during a strike in Lebanon.

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All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's Monday, March 16, 2026 6. I'm on the road today, but Blake is holding it down at the Phoenix Bitcoin.com studio. Blake, how you doing?

[J]

Howdy, Andrew.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was.

[J]

It was an eventful weekend.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, yeah, we did. We did see each other on Saturday. We interviewed Andy Biggs and then you interviewed Nick Shirley. We had a great time there. Yeah, that was a blast at the Phoenician. It was a good, good, good event. We are joined here at the top of the hour, unusually so, by Jack Posobic, who's going to be helping us make sense of after a very eventful weekend. Jack, welcome.

[Jack Posobiec]

What up, homies?

[Charlie Kirk]

We've. We've got a lot to get to here, and I think Blake's title for today's show, what is maga? Is a. Is it? I think it's a really apt way to sort of frame it. I Was traveling, didn't have a lot of time to keep up with it. I turned on the. The phone and the computer on basically last night because somebody sent me some Oscar clips. And then I started going through everything and I was like, like, holy, holy cow, the world. Everybody hates everybody. The E. Drama is through the roof and we got a very contentious war going on in Iran. And I think what the best thing that we can do on this show is how to walk through this very tumultuous moment that we're living in where I think a lot of us just want to focus on domestic issues. We want to focus on nation building at home. Unfortunately, that's not exactly the most obvious thing for any of us to do because of so much noise that's going around. Blake, I'm going to throw to you first and foremost.

[Jack Posobiec]

You.

[Charlie Kirk]

You asked the question, what is maga? Define it for us. What is MAGA right now in this moment with Iran with, like I said, the E. Drama and so much else.

[J]

Well, I mean, part of the reason, the reason, you know, we titled that way is we did. Of course, we've seen, we saw friction over the weekend. We won't get into the full details of it because it's a little silly, but, you know, Megyn Kelly was in a fight with Mark Levin. That's obviously rooted in the Iran stuff and, you know, obviously personality friction as well. And what happened last night was the president on Truth Social decided to weigh in on it personally and he took the side. He didn't name Megan, but he took. He supported Mark Levin. And one of the lines he said at the end of his post was basically that people who are bashing Levin going after him, those people are not maga. I am, is what he said. And one interpretation of MAGA is it basically is. It is the people who support it is. It is President Trump. President Trump, he ran on that slogan. He has the power to define what that slogan is. But does everyone feel that way? Because a lot of people have tried to articulate a MAGA agenda in terms of issues, whether that's on immigration, whether that's on interventionism, whether that's on trade, and a lot of other stuff. And so that's kind of why it's an open question, because I think there is. Is there. Is there a MAGA that stands separately from the president himself and the president himself? I think, you know, unsurprisingly, given Trump's personality, he does mostly see it in terms of his personal branding.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And so, Jack, I think, you know, that is one contention. Right. This is something that the President has said over and over again. I am maga, and those who kind of come at me right now, they're not loyal to the cause. You are an OG. 2016, 2015 MAGA. You know, I would call you one of the leaders on the social media side, and you've been that way for about a decade now. You know, there does seem to be fraying at the, at the, at the fringes here, especially about foreign policy. So what do you do when everything's up in tumult? People are confused which way to go and what to make of it. How are you approaching this moment?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, so there's, you know, these definitional questions come up a lot. And at the same time, I would also point out that, you know, maga, the coalition, the people who have voted for Trump, that has changed over time as well. So the 2024 Coalition, the Coalition that Charlie worked so hard to put together, that Turning Point action worked on, that's different than the 2016 coalition and the groups, obviously it was much more successful in 2014. You know, you can't take anything away from the historic nature of that. It was obviously something that was unprecedented. But 2024, just in terms of sheer raw numbers, point on the board victory was bigger. And the difference, I guess I would say is that in 2024 it was this coalition that came together where instead of just, you know, 2016 was sort of like the anti neocons, the Bernie Bros, and you're sort of like traditional Republicans, but in 2024. And of course the anti neocons are obviously have a lot of consternation right now. And so the 2024 coalition was even broader and bigger than that because now you got Maha, now you've got the libertarians, now you, of course you have the anti neocons. And of course there's a lot of overlap with the, with the, you know, libertarian crowd there as well. You've got people who were motivated by Covid, you've got. And lockdowns. You've got people who were motivated by dei, by wokeness. I mean, you just got so many people coming in in 2024 that inevitably there was going to be some friction points between the massive, you know, the massive parts of the massive coalition. And of course now you've also, in 24, got the zoomers on board, which is like a whole different, you know, quotient in and of itself. And that was the part that Charlie and TPUSA had worked so hard on all through those years, if you look at it right, like if you were in high school when Trump first ran, 2024 may have been the first time you voted or, you know, somewhere, you know, voted for president at least. And so, you know, just doing the math. So this was like the Charlie Kirk coalition in 2024. And so the way you work on things like this is very simple. Look, Donald Trump is the President United States. Donald Trump is the founder of the MAGA movement. But just like any coalition, there are going to be different elements within that movement. And so, you know, you can get caught up in these definitional games, but I do think that ultimately we're better served by people just sort of saying, like, this is what I stand for. This is what I think the best policy is. And just arguing it out in those terms rather than trying to say, you know, one person is this and one person isn't allowed to be that. It's just, I think that's. I think that leads to subtraction. And we all know that victory is through addition.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I mean, I think what you're getting at, this coalitional truth that we need to build a coalition. There is no more contentious issue on the right. There's just simply not than foreign policy. Because the divide between the neocons and the interventionist is not just a divide, it's a chasm. And so in one sense, as soon as the Iran conflict started, there should be no surprise that this has become so contentious. President Trump said four weeks, he said he's willing to move that timeline up or back. So we, we kind of are still in that, that time of uncertainty. We don't know how this is going to play out. There's a very positive way this could play out. There's a more negative way this could play out. Which is why Charlie warned against regime change in Iran. Right. We don't know all of the ancillary side effects. We don't know how this, this could devolve into some sort of civil war, sectarian strife, when it within Iran. The Strait of Hormuz is proving particularly tricky and difficult. We're going to get into what the President is trying to do in the Strait of Hormuz, build a coalition of different countries to come in and clear up the Strait of Hormuz. We're allowing Indian and Chinese, it sounds like vessels, tankers to go through the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah. Which is, which is fascinating. It seems like the world is sort of flipping upside down in many ways, which is why a lot of us are trying to make sense of it. We're going to continue on this because I think it's the most important conversation that we can have on the right right now. Real quick, before we get there, I want to tell you guys about strong cell. Blake. Unfortunately, I have let everybody down and I do not have my strong cell.

[J]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

No. Oh boy. Yeah, I know my golf swing is off today.

[Blake]

It's just a lesson. Who said up champ?

[Charlie Kirk]

Can't I think I might have gotten away with something I shouldn't.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back. The Charlie Kirk Show. President Trump is giving a a press conference as we speak. We're going to throw to it right now an update on the Iran conflict. More Donald Trump of hormones.

[Blake]

With more than 30 mine laying ships destroyed, we hit, to the best of our knowledge, all of their mine laying ships. Now they can put them on other types of ships, I guess, and drop them in, but we don't know that any have even been dropped in. We're not sure that any have been. That's a big negative for them. If they do it, it's a form of suicide. But we don't know that they have dropped any. And, but we've, we've hit all 30 of their ships and destroyed them. They're all at the bottom of the sea. We strongly encourage other nations whose economies depend on this rate far more than ours. You know, we get less than 1% of our oil from this rate. And some countries get much more. Japan gets 95%, China gets 90%. Many of the Europeans get quite a, quite a bit. South Korea gets 35%. So we want them to come and help us with the strait. We have it in very good shape. The countries. I said, we've already taken care of Iran. But now because of the fact that literally a single terrorist can put something in the water or shoot something or shoot a missile, a small missile, and it's fairly close range because it is a tight area and which is one of the reasons they've always used that as a weapon. Iran has always used that as an economic weapon and it's not going to be able to be used very long. Numerous countries have told me they're on the way. Some are very enthusiastic about it and some aren't. Some are countries that we've helped for many, many years. We've protected them from horrible outside sources and they weren't that enthusiastic. And the level of enthusiasm matters to me. We have some countries where we have 45,000 soldiers, great soldiers, protecting them from harm's way. And we have done a great job. And well, we want to know, do you have any minesweepers? Well, would rather not get involved, sir. I said, you mean for 40 years we're protecting you and you don't want to get involved in something that is very minor, very few shots going to be taken because they don't have many shots left. But they said we'd rather not get involved. I just want the fake news media and everybody else to remember that that was said because when, you know, I've been a big critic of all of the protecting of countries because I know that we'll protect them and if ever needed, if we ever needed help, they won't be there for us. I've just known that for a long period of time, just like I knew about the straight, that it would be a weapon, which I predicted a long time ago. Predicted all of this stuff. You guys were very generous in that. I predicted all of it. I predicted Osama bin Laden would knock out the World Trade Center. I made that prediction a year before he did. I said, you better get him, he's a bad guy. I watched him be interviewed one time and I said, that's a bad guy. You better get him. One year before. Exactly. I wrote it in a book. You can even check. About a year before the World Trade center came down, President Clinton actually had a shot at him and he didn't take it. Unfortunately, I'm not blaming him for that, but he didn't take it and he ended up knocking down the World Trade Center. But I predicted that, too. I predicted a lot of things. We strongly encourage other nations whose economies depend on the strait for blind. I mean, you know, these, these people literally need it. 90, 95% of their energy or their oil comes out of the strait and they should be in here very happily helping us. And it's incredible. We have such great. We're number one in oil by double now. We drill, baby, drill. We're double any other nation and it's going to be soon. Triple any other nation, and that doesn't include Venezuela, who's been great, by the way. The relationship with Venezuela has been fantastic. Millions, literally millions of barrels of oil are being taken out. And it's been a great help and it's been to their great benefit. The President has done a really good job. We get along with them really well. But we've taken out millions of barrels of oil and brought to Houston and other places for, to the refineries. We have refineries set up specifically for that. And it's been a great, it's been a great relationship and more and more is happening. It's a tremendous oil source and we're getting, we're stepping it up very rapidly. The big companies are going in and they will actually numbers in a pretty short period of time, numbers that they've never been able to do, we'll be doing. There's a lot of oil under that land. We strongly encourage the other nations to get involved with us and get involved quickly and with great enthusiasm. I have that from a number of them and I'd like to say their names, but frankly, I don't know if they would want me to or not because maybe they don't want to be targeted. But I say wouldn't matter if you're targeted or not because this is a paper tiger that we're dealing with now. It wasn't a paper tiger two weeks ago. It's a paper tiger now. So now we're going to get down to the reason. We'll take a couple of questions in a moment, but we're going to get down to the reason we're here today. Actually. This was set up a long time ago. It's the Trump Kennedy Center. Over the past year, we've made incredible strides to restore the true purpose and prestige of this revered institution. Together, we're going to ensure it remains the finest performing arts facility of its kind anywhere in the world. And I don't know that it ever really reached that stage, but it will over a period of time. We're rebuilding it. It's in very, very bad condition. It's been let. It's been, it's been somewhat of a disaster, to be honest with you. It's been, it's been let go to hell. That's what they've done. They did a poor job. They spent money in the wrong places. They built some theaters underneath that nobody uses. Little ones, tiny theaters that cost $300 million. And the money was spent incorrectly. Wrong. We're dealing with some networks on the possibility of renting those little theaters. Nobody is going to use them. They want the big halls. The halls. The halls are going to be incredible. They're in bad shape. But when they're completed, the bones are potentially something that could be unbelievable. So I want to, before we begin, I want to thank Rick Grinnell. He's been a friend of mine for a long time. He's been unbelievable. He went to the, he was the ambassador, as you know, to Germany. There was no happier woman in the world than Angela Merkel. Angela, she called me. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Although she liked Rick a lot, there was nobody happier that he was no longer going to be the ambassador to Germany. He was difficult for them. He was not your typical ambassador. He was the opposite. He was, he would do.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, everybody. More Donald Trump press conference as he's updating on Iran. We're going to take that in the break. More Jack Boic in just a second.

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[Blake]

No. Oh boy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I know my golf swing is off today.

[Blake]

It's just a lesson. Who said up, champ?

[Charlie Kirk]

Can't. I think I might have gotten away with something. I should.

[Paul Danz]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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Yeah.

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[Blake]

This movement will not be silenced.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Libby Emmons]

Thanks so much. Glad to be here, Andrew.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we're joined by Jack Pacific. We're asking a question, Libby, and I'd love to get you in on this. You know, what is maga, right? We look across the conservative landscape, and it's a mess out there right now. And I think, you know, I'm thinking of the Kipling poem where it's like, you know, if you can keep your head when everybody else is losing theirs. But President Trump defines it as, you know, this is. He's the founder of this movement, and so get in line. He's been very consistent, to his credit, about Iran over the years. A lot of us harbor skepticisms about regime change in the Middle East. So what do you make of this moment? As you know, everything seems to be a mess out there.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, everything does seem to be a mess out there. And I disagree with Trump, that MAGA is Trump. I think Trump captured an ethos that was already out there. I think he tapped into something that so many Americans were feeling. And I think MAGA has more to do with a set of values and perspectives than it does a single man. Otherwise, it would not be a movement that would continue. And that's a movement that continued throughout Biden's four years. And I think it's a movement that will continue after Trump is gone. I think MAGA has to do with putting America first, American priorities in terms of the domestic situation, in terms of prosperity and equal access to opportunity in a lot of cases, you know, for Americans, which means that your schools are decent and you can go to them and attend them, which means that you're getting a fair shake in the housing market, and it's not all being bought up by corporations, you know, which means that when you go to apply for a job or go to apply to college, your merit is what's taken into consideration, not some random identity factors. And I think that MAGA has to be a set of values more than it can be possibly just one man. Otherwise you can't stand for anything.

[Mark Lynch]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

You can't stand on shifting sands of perspectives and ideas. You have to stand for something or else, you know, as they say, you'll fall for anything.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jack, want to get you back in on this because I think, by the way, Libby, you. You probably articulated Blake's POV pretty well, I would think, but I'll let Blake answer that and just say, go ahead. Go ahead, Blake.

[J]

No, no, it's great. It's just. No, let's let Jack go. Let's look at Jack.

[Blake]

Go here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, Jack, I want to get you to respond to that, but, you know, you are the kind of foreign intel analyst. You're. You're watching this space all the time, but yet you are domestic in your focus as well. How do you marry the two of these right now?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that's a great point. So, you know, this is obviously like, I do a lot of geopole analysis, and I actually was an EV intelligence officer, you know, and so this is something that's always of a great interest when we have these things come up. I'm like, aha. Finally, everyone understands why I post maps about choke points and maritime trade routes so much. It seems totally arcane until everyone finds out how much it really, really matters in the world. And that being said, the questions of what will be successful politically are certainly different from how the world economy operates and how the world economics operate back and forth. And so, you know, I've always said that, look, I thought that when I was in the United States Navy, and then when I was in the intelligence community serving as I did that, I started to get the feeling that perhaps our focus as a country was too, abroad. Our focus was not enough on our own issues, on things that actually mattered to us, on things that actually affected us in our country, like the southern border border, like the cartels, like the issues of problems and crime in our city, the issues of mass migration. All of those issues are the issues that built the MAGA movement. That's what brought us all on board and brought us all together in 2015 and 2016, with, of course, the leader and singular man of that movement being Donald J. Trump. And when he came down the golden escalator, that's exactly what he talked about. And so certainly it's been this idea that we are going to shift the focus. And you may all. You may kind of say that just analytically, I guess you could say that if there is a split anymore, it's not within maga. The Split is more MAGA and then America first. Right? So MAGA is more. We back Trump. We want Trump to be, you know, you know, he's our guy 100%. You know, we may have certain, you know, certain differences on tactics here and there, but he. We're going to stand with Trump then America first. First is this group that says, we don't want to do, you know, anything foreign. It's domestic. Only domestic has to be in the front. And that movement is something that, interestingly enough, you start to see Democrats dipping into. You start to see Mandami talk about this. And we, when we did the debate analysis, we talked about that. You start to see things like Gavin Newsom talk about this, where he's saying, oh, I want to focus here and not abroad. So it's, it's become this sort of jump ball, I feel, right now. And I think the Democrats, Democrats are going to try their next move is going to be to say, oh, well, you guys are for foreign intervention. We are the true America first, so watch for that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, I invoked your name earlier. I want to give you a chance to chime in.

[J]

No, I think that's reasonable. I think they're all on good points that especially those of us who've been around this movement a long time, there is a strong sense, oh, maga. We want MAGA to last beyond Trump. One reason you don't want to say MAGA is just Trump is. Trump will not be around forever. Trump will eventually be gone. And we still want a movement that is not neocon gop, that is not George Bush gop, that is not the GOP of old. But it is also very much the case that through kind of repeated trials, repeated events, MAGA has ended up being, for lack of a better term, like, like Trump has oscillated in different directions. He's caught us off guard, and he's always stuck around. And the movement has really become very much. How to put this. I will say President Trump has a point. If he says, like, I am maga, and to some extent, the movement is basically what I say it is because he's repeatedly defined it that way, and he is kind of bashed away and, like, battered off every single challenger who would suggest it was anything else. And so I think Jack has a point that maybe you need to articulate another phrase like America first or whatever. You want to take this package of views. So that is not 100% identical to one person. And this is the thing about the right. The right is more hierarchical. We are more inclined to basically get in line behind our guy if he says this is the right thing to do, if he says this is what we need to be doing.

[Charlie Kirk]

And

[J]

so, yeah, I think we, you know, it might be a good idea to have another label for the issues that we care about.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, so I've gotten attacked, I think, Blake, you and I on the show for being, you know, I think they took a clip out of context, the Internet did, and said we were. We were departing from Charlie's view on Iran. He was super anti war, and yeah, Charlie was super anti war, but, you know, we were warning against the perils of regime change in the Middle east as well before the lead up. But Charlie, sort of in this divide that you're mentioning here, Jack, it was his decision, was always, listen, I worked my butt off to get President Trump elected. Even when I privately have differences of opinion, I'm gonna back the guy because there's been no other fighter that we have in the modern era that has so embodied the values that I care most about. And so I'm gonna get behind him and we're gonna hope for the best. I'm gonna argue his points. There's a point to be made. And so that's kind of what we do here. A couple of things I can't abide by. I cannot abide by not supporting our troops. I cannot ab. Wishing success on this country. I cannot abide by any of that stuff. I can't abide by the brain rot where you're trying to scapegoat people. So listen, yeah, these are perilous, gut wrenching, times that make us all sort of wonder how it's gonna work out. But we've been here before with President Trump. Charlie understood this, and he ultimately did place his trust and his support behind the president when he made tough calls. So I think we're just sort of stuck in this, this, this time. You know, President Trump said four to five weeks. Okay, we're in the four to five weeks here. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Let's hope this ends well, and let's pray for the success of our troops. Libby, what am I missing?

[Libby Emmons]

No, I agree with you on that to a certain extent. Yes. Now that we're in this war, I want us to win it. I want us to win it decisively, and I want our troops to come home and be out of harm's way. That's a huge deal. I support our troops 100%. I do think that it's difficult to look at this entanglement as someone who is pretty much anti war and come away with, you know, and come away with the perspective that this was the right thing to do at the right time, I'm not sure about that, you know, and I think time will tell and certainly history will let us know. I'm someone who marched against the Iraq war way back in 2003. I'm not prepared to go out and be marching against this war at this point. You know, I've definitely looked back at my life and said perhaps shutting down the 59th Street Bridge was not the best idea and maybe I wouldn't do that again. But, yeah, I think that there's. I think that there's concerns. Arguing about whether or not we should back our troops is not something we should argue about. Everyone should be backing our troops. I also think that what Jack said, that this is giving the Democrats an area where they can really start to make some inroads with the American people, is something that we should be watching out for. Because it's hard to look at the Democrats, you know, and not see all of the things that they are also going to be advocating for continuing to trans kids, continuing the American genocide of abortion. You know, there were like a million and close to a million abortions, I think in 2024. That's an insane number. So if conservatives really want to make sure that they have a hold of some of these issues and can save lives in this country, we have some states that are on board with euthanasia. This, none of this stuff can go forward. And so we have to be wary of all of those things.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well said. I mean, I find the Democrats to be completely unacceptable, but they are. We are giving them an avenue to, to be the America first in some ways, at least politically, from a messaging standpoint, I don't believe any of it. I want to give a quick word, a note. Susie Wilde's been diagnosed with breast cancer. President Trump put out a truth to that. So our prayers are with her for her health and safety. Also want to tell you about all family pharmacy. The good folks there, great people out of Florida built this amazing company that is proactive when it comes to your health. So they offer antibiotics, antivirals, tamiflu, ivermectin, hypothesis, hydroxychloroquine. So much more. This is about access, preparation and personal responsibility. You can choose freedom. Choose the right pharmacy. Go to Kirk10AllFamilyPharmacy.com Kirk use promo code Kirk10 to save 10 off. We're going to be right back and continue this very important conversation.

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[Charlie Kirk]

No.

[Blake]

Oh boy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I know my golf swing is off today.

[Blake]

It's just a lesson. Who sent up Champ?

[Mark Lynch]

Can't.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think I might have gotten away with something I shouldn't have.

[Paul Danz]

What the heck are you talking about?

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Yeah.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back to Charlie Kirk show. I'm going to play cut 26. This is Charlie talking about this very exact dynamic. Cut 26. Let me tell you what President Trump

[Jack Posobiec]

has in front of him.

[Mark Lynch]

And this is the stuff of which statements statesman's are men made. A statesman is a man at the highest moment. When you have the weight of the shoulders like Churchill or Lincoln of the world on your shoulders, you act with

[Jack Posobiec]

prudence and not on ideological fervor.

[Mark Lynch]

President Donald Trump is a man made for this moment. This is why President Trump was elected president of the United States. It's the man in the arena that counts.

[Jack Posobiec]

But I encourage you, as you view

[Mark Lynch]

the next couple of days, ways to

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In fact, we should resist ideological fervor.

[Charlie Kirk]

Resist ideological fervor. The man in the arena. I am still on this point that, yes, I was not pro, you know, regime change in Iran, but I will back President Trump's play here. He's earned our trust. He is the man in the arena right now. And we have to, must, must pray for the success of our troops and our country, that this ultimately would work out in a way that would benefit America first as we try to define it. But listen, the longer this goes on, there's no doubt that this will become more and more difficult. All right, Libby, I'm gonna get to your why we actually brought you onto the show today, and that is that the Oscars, the Oscars took a swipe at the All American halftime show yesterday, and so we got to play it cut 17. I should warn you, tonight could get political. Okay. And if that makes you uncomfortable, there's an alternate Oscars being hosted by Kid Rock. Yeah, it's at the Dave and Busters down the street. A lot of tickets for that. All right, Libby, we see that. We see SNL is got Tucker Carlson, you know, making fun of him. We are living through a remarkable cultural moment that we need to pause and appreciate. And that's why I brought you on here. What do you make of this, the Oscars, what do you make of snl? All of it.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. So, you know, the thing with the thing with the Oscars, Conan O', Brien, somebody didn't tell him that 25 million people actually streamed the Turning Point.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, Libby. Libby, yes. The way that Nielsen rates it, we had over 50 million people.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, well, okay. I was just tracking back this morning through my previous notes, and I didn't see that. So amazing. Congratulations again. But, yeah, someone didn't tell Conan that. Someone didn't tell Conan that Americans are moving away from the box office. You know, like never before. I took a look at some of the stats, and American Beauty, which won the best picture back in 2000, made about the same as Sinners, which sort of came in second place this year. So it's not like things are going better for Hollywood than they were even 26 years ago. Nobody's really interested in that. People don't like watching the Oscars, you know, So I think that. I think that's something to recognize. Timothee Chalamet's recent comments about opera and ballet being dying art forms could just as easily be applied to the cinema. These Hollywood people should recognize that, and instead, they just lament that more people should go to the box office. If you look at some of the Oscar speeches or the SAG speeches, the Golden Globe speeches this year during the whole awards season, you'll see multiple. Multiple directors, writers, actors telling people to bring your kids to the movies. These are the same kinds of comments that I heard when I was a kid. Bring your kids to the theater. Bring your kids to the opera. Let them know, bring them to the ballet. You know, like all of this stuff. And instead, these are still just dying art forms. And eventually they will disappear to a certain extent or become niche or whatever. And as for snl, yeah, they had some funny jokes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Libby. Libby. I've actually. It's a longer cool clip, but it is worth playing because everybody has a bit of a stake here in Tucker Carlson. We're all sharing similar mediums and we all hear about it. And Blake used to write for him. Jack is close with him. Here we go. Cut 24. Many are excited for the Oscars tomorrow. Some people think liberal politics are influencing the awards too much. Here with his take is conservative commentator Tucker Carlson. Thank you, Colin. Let's all go to the movies, huh? Really? Yes. Why don't we grab some popcorn and watch American culture collapse? What are we doing? Why don't we talk about sinners? That's right, sinners. Because of course, leftist woke. America's favorite movie this year is about sinning. Why does that not surprise me? No, sorry, kids, we don't go to church anymore. We go to sinners. That's the rule. That's the goal. Now what about Hamnet? Oh, Hamnet. Because we're not allowed to say Hamlet anymore.

[Blake]

No, no.

[Charlie Kirk]

He took the L and gave it to the gbtq.

[J]

Took the L and gave it to GBTQ is actually pretty witty. I kind of wish one of us had come up with that at some point.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's they buzz and I actually had a great MA hospital like Maha. I think we played it in the cold open. It was actually funny. Jack, you people don't know this, but you have, you have your own critic, you know, background, film critic, TV critic, background here.

[Jack Posobiec]

True.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what do you make of this cultural moment we're living? It does feel a bit like we're such a. Our side is so completely messed up in so many ways that, that we're giving them lots of fodder. But what you're doing take.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, first of all, you know, I got to respond on the halftime show because our ratings clearly, clearly, if you look at what the Turning Point events team, if you look at what the Turning Point action team and everyone coming together did to get the ratings for the number one American YouTube live stream in history, 40 million households day of viewing in the first 24 hours. And if you computed it the way, as you say computed it the way Nielsen does household, you'd probably be looking at 50 to 60 million people because they always use the multiplier for the super bowl viewership. And we know that there were people at at least twos and threes and fours watching our halftime show, so. Oh, so I'd love to go back. And Conan, you have not had anything that's rated in 20 plus years. You went down to Haiti and we're trying to like talk about how great Haiti is and walking around sipping Mai tais while you've got cannibals named Barbecue running around. So no, Conan and Turning Point USA blew, absolutely blew the Oscars out of the water. And I can't wait to see their overnights because I know it's lower when you look at the cultural moment. You know, I'm just going to say it. I tweeted this morning about the Oscars that the Oscars has now become a contest of who can make the most anti white movie. So you've got Sinners, which is basically from Dusk Till dawn with, with Blm killing white people. Then you've got the, the. The Leo Leonardo DiCaprio movie. And it's an antifa raid on an ICE facility. I mean it's like the most insane one fight after another. And so it's just the most insane, liberal, far left anti white stuff gets the most awards.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, I tweeted out that I didn't even know that it was going on last night because I didn't. I was busy hanging out with my kids and I was sent the clip and I just said I didn't realize it was going on. But it's very clear that we live right rent free in their minds because they all noticed it. And I just want to say one last thing. While the world is losing its mind, we're going to keep ours. And that's why we do things like the halftime show. That's why the two largest cultural touchpoint moments of the last six months were Charlie's memorial and the halftime show. We are going to keep building, keep moving forward because the only way through is through. Thank you Libby and Jack. We have a big debate in hour two. Will be seeing you there.

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[Blake]

So we're building finally because I do that, that, and by the way, no taxpayer money. I want to put that zero. It's going to be, it's on time, on budget. It'll be under budget. Be literally we're having it under budget other than we've upgraded it in terms of the marbles we're using, we're using onyx and stones that are incredible. But it'll be, it'll be something really spectacular. I'm looking at Mr. Steve Wynn, who's over there. He built a spectacular building and he knows Trump builds a spectacular building. I build better building than him. I don't care what he said. But Steve is over here and he really with his incredible wife Andrea. And thank you both for being here. Andrea is on the board and Steve is so in love with his wife. He asked whether or not he could come. And I can say the same thing for the great Bob Kraft. He's got a wife that's so wonderful. He said, do you think I could come? She didn't have to accept that. You know, she could have said no, but Bob said I would like to come. So, Bob, we won't, we will not let you vote. Although his vote would be a good vote. He will vote for the proper thing. But it's good to have you both here. These are two, two great couples that know a lot about the things I'm talking about, like fixing whether it's building a stadium or building a building. We know they know how to do it. So thank you. Thank you, Steve, very much. But we've made incredible strides over the past year. If you remember, I said I want to run it for a year just to see because the place is falling down. It's horrible air conditioning heater is going to be heating is going to be ripped out in its entirety. And you know, it needs new. It's old. It's. How many years is it, Rick? What's the total? 50? Almost. Yeah, over 50. And we have 50 year old air conditioning. More than that, I think, actually. And it's in bad shape. Everything's. Everything's in bad shape.

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back. Hour two of church. The Charlie Kirk show's underway and we have a special treat in store for you. I have been very loud about my criticisms of Senator Lindsey Graham, the neocon warmonger from South Carolina who has just seemed to stay in office for a very long time. Charlie Kirk.

[J]

Charlie always called him Lady Graham, as he called him. Was that a Rushism? Did he get that from Rush?

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of people call him. Let's put up this tweet from Charlie back in. It looks like July 1, 2023. He said Senator Lindsey Graham gets booed off the stage at Trump's South Carolina rally. Absolutely humiliating. The base is done with neocons who want to spend our money to bomb faraway lands. Feels very relevant to our current moment. Fix our border, use the military to wipe out the cartels, and we'll respect you. Ignore the domestic crisis at your own peril. So that was just a few years ago. And of course we agree with it wholeheartedly we're going to have a special treat here, though. We're going to have Paul Danz and his competitor in the primary, lynch as well. You're going to hear from both of them. We're going to let you decide. So email us freedomarliekirk.com freedom charliekirk.com so without further ado, our first guest is Paul Danz. He's running for U.S. senate for the great state of South Carolina. Welcome to the show, sir.

[Paul Danz]

Gentlemen, great to be with you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, it's so good to have you. My perspective right now, I'm keeping an open mind on both of you and I'm saying, saying as long as it's not Lindsey Graham, I'm excited. That's how I feel right now. But you have voters to appeal to in the state of South Carolina and they need to hear directly from you. And so, you know, that's, that's the, that's the point of this moment right now. So what is it going to take to beat Lindsey Graham and why are you the right candidate to do that?

[Paul Danz]

Well, as of today, Lindsey Graham's going down. That's the good news. He's way below 50% in South Carolina. We have a runoff state. So, so top two people going to run off two weeks later. Look, I'm the generational change candidate. I'm a guy who's been MAGA from the jump. I helped President Trump as a volunteer get elected. I served in his first term. I was what they call one of his killers. I worked at HUD under Dr. Carson and then later OPM, the Office of Personal Management. I was the guy who actually put in schedule F and really wrestled the whole proposition of personnel as policy. I took over that federal agency, gave it back to the President. So I'm a guy who's been in Detroit Trench is an actual guy in the arena. President Trump, he's meeting with the Kennedy center board today. He actually put my wife on and she's a world famous ballerina, Mary Helen Bowers. And as we speak, we are awaiting baby number five. We were at the 40 week mark today, guys. So if you hear something off, off camera, I can attest.

[Charlie Kirk]

I saw your wife briefly behind you as we were prepping for the this and she's pregnant. I can attest, you know, that that baby's gotta be nearly ready. So, you know, okay, so I guess the dig on you from the lynch camp is that, you know, you're not a native South Carolina Carolinian. Where are you from and what do you have to say to that attack,

[Paul Danz]

well, it's a really dumb attack. I grew up in Maryland mainly, but my dad was in the military and he was a Vietnam vet. We moved around and actually a lot of our population here are military dependent. So that's a really bad idea to go after military dependence. But I got married here 20 years ago on John's island to my Carolina bride and we have been living here going on 10 years next year. So we have 4.99 kids and I have a stake in the future. I live the life that Charlie talked about that going to church, getting married, having kids. Kids. I took all three of those very seriously, probably the last one the most. But this is about generational change. You know, I go around to the TPUSA chapters and there's excitement whether I'm at the College of Charleston or University of South Carolina, Clemson, Anderson, Coastal Carolina, everyone here, you know, Southern Charleston, Charleston Southern rather are excited for a candidate who's out there living the life. I was the architect of Project 2025. So I have a vision for what this great state could be again. And that's really what I want to do. I want to make this a place for our kids so the next generation can have kids and come together and live as God intended in a land of milk and honey here in South Carolina.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, the whole schedule F that was one of my favorite ideas that emerged. And so I just want to make sure I pause and give you some kudos if that was your brainchild. I think that was a really big shot across the the deep state swamp bow right there. Blake, I'm gonna throw it to you. Next question to you, sir.

[J]

Yeah, of course. And if any of you have questions you want to ask, this is the time to do it. Send us email freedom charlie kirk.com for dance or for lynch later in the hour. We'd love to see those. I suppose a thing a lot of people are just going to want to know and I'm just straightforwardly is what meaningful change are they going to get by swapping from Graham to you? And I think this is your chance to answer specifically, for example, how are you on questions like the filibuster, on the SAVE act, on the Scam act, what needs to change within the Senate? And I guess another follow up is should there be a change of leadership in the Senate on the GOP side?

[Paul Danz]

Right. Peace in our time. Okay. I'm not a warmonger. I'm a dad of five and I want our kids to have a future in this in this great country. So, yeah, look, I'm jettisoning the filibuster day one. I am a real conservative, an America first guy. So I'm going to be doing foreign policy only through the lens of the US First. What is what affects the people on the ground here in South Carolina? I'm offering generational change. And what does that mean? It's giving our next generation a stake, basically. You know, I want to put shop class back in middle and high schools. I want to teach kids to get ready for this, this big change with, you know, AI coming on. I'm offering a 21st century homesteading act. What does that mean? That means declaring farmland critical infrastructure. Imagine setting up 100 acre farm, letting, letting this next generation put down roots and raise healthy, local, affordable food right here in South Carolina. This is what our ancestors did 100 years ago. I'm going to tackle the opioid crisis here in South Carolina. We have 2,000 people dying each year of opioid, opioids. And it's, you know, it's the sort of thing where the Sacklers, if, you know the Sacklers, they declared war here on, on our populations. This is really.

[Charlie Kirk]

Who are the Sacklers?

[Paul Danz]

Okay, so, you know, the Sacklers were one of the groups that helped usher in the opioid crisis. There's a great documentary on this, a crime of the century. But this is a group that really went after white America as a genocide of sorts, that were really targeting populations. So we're now stepping back from that saying how we fix South Carolina. Get money in the pockets of people who can help the victims, but also give them the new life, the promise. And I go and campaign, I run into families and I tell them my platform. And, you know, literally, I was in Merle's Inlet last week. I'm talking to five people, a woman and a man. She tells me her son died of opioids. And the gentleman with her, his daughter. So this is affecting everyone here. It's really an epidemic. But, you know, we were really promising to make a future here. Our state, for those who haven't been here, is the worst in the country in terms of roads. Our infrastructure is 30 years behind. And we have a US senator who spends every other weekend in foreign countries, whether he needs to or not.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and I want to get into that with you, Paul. I got to take a quick break here, but let's talk about Israel, let's talk about foreign policy, let's talk about some of the things Lindsey Graham has said. And I think we Should I think we should go through the breaks here here because time is, time is going, going quick. Here we have a. Yeah. Blackout coffee. My goodness, I love blackout coffee and I actually came prepared this time. When I traveled I took some with me. Blackout Coffee is a family run American company roasting fresh coffee in the usa. They're built by people that love this country. They're an American first company. I love the two a medium roast and brutal awakening. Those are my two, my two favorites. So but there's, there's lots of options depending on what you like in your coffee. Coffee. Try it today. Blackout Coffee.com Charlie and use code Charlie for 20 off your first order. That's Blackout Coffee.com Charlie. And here's the, here's the even better way to save money is sign up for their subscription. You can earn rewards for just drinking the coffee that you already love. It shows up fresh on schedule. You never have to run out. Blackout coffee.com Charlie. Use promo code Charlie for 20 off your first order. Order. All right. We are going to again take a quick break for for Real America's Voice. But the stream we're going to continue on podcast. We're going to continue on so don't go anywhere. More with Paul Dan, we'll be right back. All right, let's just play a clip from Lindsey Graham to express and show what, what we're up against here. Cut 8. They wanted the Iranians stop as much as the Israelis did.

[Blake]

Absolutely.

[Mark Lynch]

God bless Israel. We should move all our stuff to Israel. Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't even know what he means there exactly, but it does seem to be a repeat theme. Paul Dance, what are you, what, what is your position on, on Israel, the war in Iran? How should we be approaching? How should we be talking about it? I'm just going to show my own cards here. One of my issues. It just seems like he's frothing at the mouth. Just so eager to bomb foreign lands. How would you be different?

[Paul Danz]

Well, he wants to bomb everything pretty much the moves. I am America first guy. I am a guy who trusted in Trump. We elected him as our commander in chief. I have great trust in him. Look, I'm a believer in Israel and it's right to exist this but we have to measure everything by Americans interest first. And here you have a guy who's talking about sending our sons and daughters off to war in the Middle East. It's really too much to. We've gone through the, the prior wars of this 21st century and we know, we as Charlie Warned. These are, these are quagmires. And you know, President Trump, we rely on him to kind of, but right now we are very leery about any sort of ground war. We want to concentrate here at home in the Western Hemisphere. Let's lock down from Terra del Fuego up to Greenland. Let's make ourselves secure here so we don't have Chinese balloons floating over a country.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what do you, what do you say to when President Trump says, listen, they were about to have an immunity shield, they were making all these missiles, nobody was going to be able to attack the nuclear program that we've heard about for the last however many decades. Decades. What do you say? What's your reaction to that?

[Paul Danz]

Well, I'm trusting in Trump. I don't have access to that intelligence. But I do know that, you know, with, with Operation Midnight Hammer, they made a devastating blow. And right now we do have this strategic threat looming in the east and we can't be everywhere at once. So that's really the worry. My worry is ultimately China and the threat matrix as we, you know, take missiles off of, out of South Korea and move them, you know, to points Middle East. Right now, the theory we have to protect ourselves, but let's start first by getting back on our own feet re industrializing America. We can't even build those submarines here because we don't have welders. We don't have welders because we don't have shop class in school and high schools here. And so I'm fundamentally about building back America first. And if you throw me, you know, I'm endorsed by Tucker Carlson. So I have a lot of his perspective on Israel. But, but, you know, I want to protect them, but also measure it within the realm of what the United States can do at this stage.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, we're going to welcome back our Real America's Voice partners. We'll be right back. All right, we're talking about foreign policy, which is the most contentious issue on our side. Blake, do you have a follow up, up for.

[J]

Well, I think, you know, what always goes with foreign policy is, of course, immigration. Another question we like to ask candidates on immigration, do you support an immigration moratorium or if not, what's your, what's your ideal balance for how many people should be coming into America?

[Paul Danz]

I'm all for the moratorium. Look, and I also want to stop H1B visas. I want to start sending these 50 million visa holders home. I want American kids, kids to be grad school students in engineering colleges. Again. I want TAs who speak English. Look, I went to MIT, I went to public schools and got there. But we deserve a better educational system. And, and so that starts with this mass immigration. Lindsey Graham, of course, famously grand Listy. He's the guy who's been on watch for these 32 years when 20 million came in here. He's the guy who offered the Afghan Adjustment act act to give people citizenship. The same ones who killed Sarah Beckstrom. She's the National Guards woman assassinated within a block of the White House at Thanksgiving. So, yes, we have to go after immigration and that starts by giving our kids the opportunities here at home.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, you know, it's, we have to address the elephant in the room here, Paul, and that is that, you know, you say in Trump we trust, we're trusting that he's making these tough decisions, decisions. But he's endorsed Lindsey Graham. So what do you do with that? It seems like you don't take it personally, but what do you tell the voters in South Carolina about that?

[Paul Danz]

Well, let's remember Trump endorsed Lindsey Graham back in March. I jumped in this race in August. It's because I couldn't hold my nose and I was not on the radar for President Trump. So I jumped in this because I've been a Trump guy from the jump when Lindsey Graham was saying that he'd be the worst president or disaster for the Republican Party, went on to pass that dossier D.A. over to the FBI. I'm a guy who was working for President Trump in the war room. So look, I don't take it personally. Every day that the Trump administration rolls out Project 2025, proposals that include stuff like, you know, putting the servicemen back in who were drilled out because they refused to take the jab or stripping DEI from our military, all these sort of things. You know, that's kind of an imprimatur of my worth. We have to get Lindsey Graham out. He's very unpopular here at home and right now he's under way under 50%. So there will be a runoff. It's who is your fighter, who's the guy who's actually been fighting and who's, who do you want in the future?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And so let's, let's go there. And Blake, if you have a follow up, please, by all means, I'm going to ask about lynch next. So I don't know. Do you have a follow up?

[J]

No, I think that was a good time to edit.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So you just mentioned the runoff here, Paul. So we've got that. Give us the schedule of Events and then make your case. Why you and not Lynch?

[Paul Danz]

Right? We got about 205 or six events in the next 80 days or so to the election. The, the primary is June 9th. I'm moving all over the state. I just threw in a million dollars of my own money for this race. I've hired the number one digital team in the state. These are the guys who took Charleston here, where I'm talking to you from. They flipped it to red for the first time since reconstruction. So we are moving out digitally. This is where excitement is. And you know, this is also the promise in the next generation. I should also say for older viewers, look, not get your cotton picking hands off Social Security Lindsey Graham because he's going to cut those benefits given a chance to pay for these wars. And he's doing the same with vets benefits. I'm going to be a guy who works for the constituents and for that matter, for Democrats here in South Carolina. We all sit in traffic, we all have the horrific infrastructure, we all get the terrible electric bills. You know, when I bring healthy food here, that's going to help everyone. So that's the promise of this campaign. It's really a generational change. Lindsay, my two opponents, they're 70 year old guys. This, that's old, that's out, you know, and, and one's an unknown and the other guy, we know all too well what he'll, what he'll do is backstab President Trump. He'll put in Democrats on the Supreme Court like he did Kagan and Sotomayor. He put those district court judges. I'm a top attorney. I went to University of Virginia school of law. I'm former president, Federalist Society for two terms. I'm a constitutional conservative and I will be a force. I will get Fauci in an orange jumpsuit. Okay? That's what I'm going to do. I'm actually going to drag these scoundrels. There's no way they're getting off on my watch. You know, you look at the Comey and Clapper and all these clowns that Lindsey Graham never did anything for. Let's send somebody to Washington who's actually going to go after, after them.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you, you probably just won a lot of fans in this audience with the Fauci line.

[Paul Danz]

He killed my father. When I get up there in the Judiciary Committee, I'm gonna be like, fauci, my name is Paul Danz. You killed my father. Prepare to lie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, fair enough. So what, what, what about your opponent, Lynch? Why not why you and not. Not him.

[Paul Danz]

Well, I've been in the arena. That's the bottom line. It's a little late to start walking on the field for Super Bowl Sunday when you haven't taken a play in the NFL. I've been working for President Trump since 15. I was in the engine room. 16, helped him, bring him across the line in Pennsylvania. Then I went to work for Dr. Carson and like I said, I took over a federal agency at opm. I know the whole gang because I set up Project 2025 and worked with TP USA and 100 other partners in the conservative. So, you know, this is. I'm ready to get to work, day one. I know the policies. A lot of what the White House is doing is work that came from. From what I had helped organize. So, you know, whether it's working with the DPC and Vince Haley. Look, I know Vince. You know, I helped them. They got the first six copies of our book, so this is seamless. I'm going to be President Trump's number one fighter in the U.S. senate. And you're going to. To have Paul, you know, a guy, you can walk in his office and say, no, get me, get me some answers. I want to see people in leg irons, you know, with the sacklers. Look, they better get me on a good day because that is prison on a good day, and God forbid on a bad day. What's happened here is genocide and people need. We need accountability. Fauci, again, on a good day, he'll be in jail.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, final question to you. We got a minute and a half left.

[J]

You know, I guess,

[Charlie Kirk]

man.

[Mark Lynch]

Yeah, I think.

[J]

I think we've got a pretty. I think we got. That was such a strong statement. I almost don't want to muddle it with another question here. It's you. You made a strong case. We want to be clear.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah.

[J]

Well, definitely send us emails and. But we want to just make it clear we haven't endorsed anyone in this. But I know Charlie was a. An ally of yours, a friend of yours. He was a huge fan of Project 12 2025, and people should take all of that into an account. But definitely send us signals on how you feel about this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Final word.

[Paul Danz]

Paul, you need to honor Charlie's legacy. He came to the Alabama Theater here in North Myrtle beach three weeks before he was killed and said, south Carolina, you need a new US Senator. He's talking to all of us, not just us here in South Carolina. I've thrown down for this. I put in my money. I'm, I'm putting my life on the line and I've gotten death threats right with Project 2025 Biden put on me. But the reality is like we're patriots 250 years. So I'm asking everyone who's listening, go to pauldance.com sign up follow us at Dan's 4 Senate on X. Throw in some of your tribute, your money if you can. This is something that we could easily do, but it needs all of us coming together.

[Charlie Kirk]

So God bless.compauldance.com thank you for your time, sir. That was a very compelling pitch. Thank you sir. We'll be right back.

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

The next great awakening is here. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back. We had a great conversation with Paul Danz. We're going to be meeting the other contestant in that primary that is trying to unseat Lindsey Graham. That's gonna be Mark lynch in just one second. So don't go anywhere. But before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important, that leadership begins with learning. And that's why we love our friends over at Hillsdale College. Charlie took 31 of the online courses. They are free to you. You can enroll [e-mail] I really recommend that you do that. It's amazing, amazing stuff. The production quality, everything up and down is so amazing. One of the courses he took was called the Genesis Story. It's taught by Hillsdale Professor Dr. Justin Johnson Jackson. It's a real college course. It's rigorous, it's thoughtful. It's accessible to anybody who's willing to learn. To learn like Charlie. Charlie knew that learning was the start of almost everything good in life, including being courageous, being a bold leader. So again, visit CharlieForHillsdale.com to enroll. That's CharlieForHillsdale.com To Enroll. Today. Without further ado, I want to welcome our next guest, Mark lynch, who's running for Senate in the great state of South Carolina to unseat Lindsey Griffin Graham. Welcome to the to the Charlie Kirk show, sir.

[Mark Lynch]

Thank you, Andrew. Thank you for having me on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, it's a pleasure and I'm excited to see the contrast here. I want to play a cut from Lindsey Graham just to set the stage. Go ahead and play it studio. I go back to South Carolina.

[Mark Lynch]

I'm asking them to send their sons

[Charlie Kirk]

and daughters over to the Mid East. What I want you to do in

[Mark Lynch]

the Mideast, our friends in Saudi Arabia and other places step forward and say, this is my fight too. I join America. I'm publicly involved in bringing this regime down.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, sir, that is, that is the senator right now from the state of South Carolina. Why? What's it going to take to unseat Lindsey Graham? And why are you the right man? For the job.

[Mark Lynch]

Well, the people in South Carolina have said 57% of them back when we polled in May, that they will not vote for Lindsey Graham again. They, they love Trump. They know Trump endorsed Lindsay. But that endorsement won't save him this time. And I'm running on a God first platform to bring back true conservative patriotism to this seat. Lindsay has had a 57% constitutional voting record. He's failing South Carolinians. He's betrayed us with a 43 Conservative Review score. And he stabs Trump in the back every chance he has. And we've all seen him. He hasn't been in South Carolina for over a year. He's been everywhere else, you know, trying to start World War 3 because he's got a bloodlust. Just, he salivates when he talks about war. But he'll come back home to take our sons and daughters over to the Middle East. I don't think so. You're not taking our children over there for your bloodlust financial gain. And we say no to that in South Carolina and enough's enough. We've had enough in Lindsey.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think that the bloodlust really resonates. It resonates with me. It resonates, I'm sure with Blake, and of course it resonated with Charlie. So the question then becomes, why you and not Paul? Dan's why should South Carolinians vote for you in the primary, Mary, and send you to the runoff against Lindsey Graham?

[Mark Lynch]

Well, I was born in Greenville. I'm a lifelong South Carolinian. Paul's never lived here. He's from New York, resides in Maryland. He steps into this race, I think, to probably upset the numbers and split the vote off. He's an attorney. And South Carolina says they're not for attorneys, they're for successful businessmen like Trump. They don't want another attorney or career policy politician. So that's me. I've run my family business and I've grown it 35 times in 40 years. And we're debt free. I don't think Paul even has a job right now since he was fired from Heritage Organization. So South Carolinians are looking for somebody that's this worked through normal life stuff. I've been married 37 years to the same woman. We have two children, four grandchildren, children. We're very successful and run a debt free business. And I've put 5 million of our retirement fund, my wife and I's retirement fund. When we decided to do this to make people understand we're committed to this race, we've got skin in the game. And I came up through this and got asked to run from my work in the national security space, working with John Guandolo, who was one of the heads of the anti terrorism division of the. The FBI, working with General Mike Flynn, who's fully endorsed my campaign. So we're for real, and we bring that knowledge to this seat that's needed in this United States Senate seat. Blake?

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Next question to you, sir.

[J]

Yeah, Mark. So we asked Paul his position on, obviously, immigration is another big issue that a lot of people care about. He said he endorsed a moratorium on immigration for the United States.

[Charlie Kirk]

United States.

[J]

How do you feel on the immigration question in particular, and what's the right approach for the US on obviously illegal but also legal immigration?

[Mark Lynch]

Yeah, that's the key word. We have immigration. This American dreams for everybody if they come through the proper channels of legal vetting. But to have open borders like we've had with Obama and Biden. Thousands of terrorists have entered this country illegally. Lindsay's been for granting amnesty for all illegal aliens, which is just insane. And, you know, he's. He's helped produce these sanctuary cities that he's now saying he's against and trying to stop. But, you know, America's full. We've got to. We've got to get rid of the illegal aliens in here and deport them. They know they're illegal. A lot of them are terrorists. And like everybody says says, now with this Iran war, what are we going to do about the sleeper cells? And people understand that now. And, you know, we've been working in this area since 2014, training our police and FBI and SLED agents and police deputies and sheriff's deputies on dealing with the Islamic infiltration in America and dealing with it at the local level. So we've got a real problem here. We've got a lot of work to do.

[Charlie Kirk]

So on the legal immigration front, just to kind of drill in a little there right now, you know, we issue about 1.2 million green cards a year, essentially. What is. Do you have a disagreement with that number? Is it too high? Is it just right? Would you go for maybe a net zero immigration moratorium on the legal side of that ledger?

[Mark Lynch]

Yeah, we probably need a net zero for a while to get cleaned up and get caught up to what we've caused. And we've got to stop the H1B and op visas. You know, we have students at, like, Clemson University talking about that. One of the students said, I'm an engineering student and I graduate next year and I'm going to be competing against students from India. Their country paid for their tuition and they'll never assimilate into this country. And they'll take my job for half pay. And I was born here. And you know, Mr. Lynch, what are we doing about, about that? And I agree, we've got to bring back America first principles, bring our manufacturing back and hire Americans for our jobs.

[J]

I want to ask another question because it's another one we put to Paul. So there's a lot of dispute among the base over whether the Senate is doing enough to support the president at the leadership level. We have this dispute over the SAVE act, whether they should get rid of the filibuster. Do you think it is time, time for us to get rid of the filibuster, to pass more conservative legislation? And do you think we should have different leadership of Republicans in The Senate?

[Mark Lynch]

And 100%, you know, we have, we use a nice word called rhinos. Like we use abortion for murdering our children in this country is murder. But we've got to get true Republicans back in the Senate. And I'm for ending the filibuster. The filibuster allows for our Senate to hide. They play the shell game. They don't ever get to a decision. If anything's hard on one side or the other, it stalls out. And you know, we have our Homeland Security department of the. Of our country closed for 30 days or more so far. That's incredible. We, I don't get to do that in my business. We have to gather up our biggest, best committees on a subject, analyze it, hear all the, the angles and make a decision and keep moving forward. If I close my business for a month, that would be detrimental to our company's future and to our employees. That's insane.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, I think we all share your, your frustrations in that. You know, we just had a great senator on the show, Eric Schmidt from the great state of Missouri. He's proposing something called the Scam Act. You see these sleeper cells that have pumped popped up, whether the lone wolves or not, they're motivated by Islamic ideas. Jihad. He's proposing that we make it easier to denaturalize and deport these people. Would you support the scam, Xer?

[Mark Lynch]

Yes. From what you've told me, yes. I mean, we've got a problem. You know, in the Quran, all Muslims are jihadist and jihad is warring against all non Muslims. And there's two forms of jihad and the surah versus the sword. Military action and then civilization Jihad, where they say they will take their enemies down by their own hands. And we've experienced that in this country. They've never fired a shot. I mean, in South Carolina, they're proposing. We're one of two states left in the country that hasn't passed a hate crimes bill. And hate crimes bill is being promoted by cair, the Council of American Islamic Relations. And they're a Hamas terrorist organization. Now, why would CAIR be so interested in South Carolina State House passing a hate crimes bill? Because that'll do away with our first amendment freedom of speech rights. And it ushers in Sharia law. It's just another. Another form of getting that done. And all Muslims are obligated to establish in a caliphate under Sharia law, period. And there's no other version of Islam taught anywhere in the world. We've got a problem right here at home where Lindsey's focused on everything else and he's left, left our country. And we've got issues right here where we've allowed all these terrorists to pour in here all these years and report to their assigned locations.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, sir, we're coming up against the break, so it's hard to get a full thought in here with the time we have have left. But I, you know, I just want to preface that I want to go into more about this foreign policy topic. Right. So everything right now, if you look on X social media, it's all about Israel. It's all about this war in Iran. The base is fractured over it. So just prefacing that's where we're going to go next. But I do want to really quickly tell you about one of our partners here. That would be. Looks like strong cell. Strong cell. Dang it, Blake, you're gonna make me feel bad again. I did not travel with my strong cell.

[J]

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[Mark Lynch]

None. He's been in Israel going over there at least every couple of weeks like he says, for two weeks. And he says, I'll dive with Israel, you know, so we see his loyalties to Israel and not America.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, that's shocking, and I hope everybody internalizes that at home. You know, we have a lot of evangelicals that watch this show. They love Israel. Israel. We. We sort of. We support them. We like them more than the other guys. But I say, I was born in this country, I'm going to die in this country. My kids are born in this country, they're going to die in this country. I'm all about this country. What's your position, sir, on the state of Israel? How should America's partnership be with Israel and then relate it to the conflict in Iran, please?

[Mark Lynch]

Yes. Well, I love Israel. You know, my Lord and Savior was a Jewish you. But if I go to the US Senate, I work for America, and we have our own sovereignty right here to protect. And I've read the book. Nobody's going to mess with Israel. God's got his hand on them. He's blessing Israel, protecting them. I know they're surrounded by all these Muslim nations and they are our ally, but on a business standpoint, in many math, we're broke. We're $38 trillion in debt. So if Netanyahu called and I was sitting with Trump, I'd say, hey, we were just fixing to call you to ask you for some money. We're broke over here, and can you send us some F15s and a cup of billion dollars? We need some cash right now. We're in a bind over here. We've got to tend to our stuff at home before we can come back over there and help you. And I know, no, I love Trump. He's one of the greatest presidents ever. He's for promoting peace. He's a great negotiator, like we've all seen, and he gives people a chance and he promotes peace. And Lindsey, I don't know who he thinks he is. Back during the Ukraine dilemma this past summer, finally, Trump called him out on it and said, you need to be careful what you're talking about over there. To Zelensky, he was. Was trying to arbitrate between Putin and Zelensky and promote peace. And Lindsay's a warmonger doing everything he can for his two major contributors, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, who both contributed, like, over 30 and 40 million dollars in his last race in 2020. So we know war is big bucks, but, you know, it's blood money. We can't start wars. We don't need to start. We need to promote peace in the world, world and do the right thing and take care of our Americans here at home and run our country and not let other countries run us or some bloodlust warmonger like Lindsey Graham. It's got to stop. Everybody's tired of it.

[J]

Hey, Mark. So with, I want to poke at another issue where I think there could be a difference between you and Mr. Dan's. So you mentioned the budget. How broke Dan's. When he was on here, he warned that Lindsey Graham wants to reduce Social Security benefits, that he'll go after some of the senior entitlements to pay for the war.

[Charlie Kirk]

To pay for his wars.

[J]

Yes, exactly. So how do you feel on, on that dimension? Do you think it is time that we reform some of those things? Or where, since we are concerned about the budget and how broke we are, where do you think that Congress should look to reduce spending?

[Mark Lynch]

I mean, everywhere. When we present, we show the hierarchy of the government. We show all the UNC unconstitutional agencies. And one of them is like the Department of Education. We've been corrupting our minds with a core education program that communists and Islamic terrorists wrote to get our children to hate America. They don't learn our history. They get told they should probably look at transgender surgeries and change their sex if they want to. And these departments and unconstitutional agencies in the country, if we could close them all down, the expert economists say that would bring back 80% of our budget. And one of them is the Federal Reserve. You know, that's a conglomeration of the richest families in the world that went down to Jekyll island and formed that. And we're printing money increasing our inflation. And then we wake up and they take a scam overnight like they did in 2008, and $300 billion was paid off to them. And then they ushered in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and started taking over our housing and Obamacare, our health insurance. And we're, we're slowly rolling into communism, you know, and everybody's, everybody's, I think, caught up on that topic now. And we see where we are, but we've got to cut spending. That's what I do in business. You know, we're debt free personally and corporate. And when we don't have money, I don't have a printer that we can just keep printing more money. So war is a costly thing. And we've been spending an average at the beginning of one and a half billion dollars a day and increasing and adding on to our deficit at 38 trillion and growing. We can't pay the interest and our grandchildren aren't going to have a chance at the country that I grew up, up in. And that's why I'm running, to stop this and get it back under control.

[Charlie Kirk]

So you would be a budget hawk. It sounds like a deficit hawk. And which. Which we fully endorse. So, yeah, Lindsey's.

[Mark Lynch]

Lindsay's been the head of the budget committee. He's failing in that area too, isn't he? So it's time for him to go.

[Charlie Kirk]

30 seconds here, sir. I think this is going to be a referendum on who can beat Lindsey. So we'll end where we started. Final pitch. Why can you beat Lindsey and not Dan's and tell people where they can find you?

[Mark Lynch]

Yes. Well, I'm a lifelong South Carolinian. We have the finances in our FEC account to do it. Paul doesn't. I'm a God fearing patriot. I'm an ordained deacon. At our church, we wear these crosses with the American flag on it because making God first again will be the key to making America great again. That'll just be the fruit if we can bring God back into Congress. You know, our forefathers knew that they. God endowed us with certain unalienable rights. And my only authority as your United States senator for South Carolina will be to protect those making decisions based off of God's word and through the Constitution. That's how I make every decision.

[Charlie Kirk]

God bless you. Mark lynch, running for Senate. Thank you for your time, sir. God bless you. We'll see you. We'll see you tomorrow.

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