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Joe Kent
Ultimately, all radical Islamic movements in the world identify the west writ large, but the United States in particular as the greatest evil on the earth. And every chance to have the notion that somehow radical Islam would be comfortable with simply controlling some province in Iraq or Syria is just not borne out by history. Radical Islam has shown that their desire is not simply to occupy one part of the world and be happy with their own little caliphate. They want to expand. It's revolutionary in its nature. And radical Islam has designs openly on the west, on the United States, on Europe. We've seen that progress there as well. And they are prepared to conduct acts of terrorism in the case of Iran, nation state actions, assassinations, murders, you name it, whatever it takes for them to gain their influence and ultimately their domination of different cultures and societies. That's a clear and imminent threat to the world and to the broader West.
News Anchor
And breaking news into cnn. Cuba's electrical grid has suffered a complete and total collapse. This is according to the country's power operator. It's the first nationwide blackout since the US effectively shut off the flow of
Joe Kent
oil that helped protect Maduro. This is well known. Their whole spy agency, all that were full of Cubans. I mean, they basically it's amazing. This poor island took over Venezuela in some cases. One of the biggest problems that Venezuelans have is they have to declare independence from Cuba. They tried to basically colonize it from a security standpoint. So, yeah, look, if I lived in Havana and I was in the government, I'd be concerned.
John Thune
Every one of those attacks falls squarely under the purview of the Department of Homeland Security. And the Democrats don't want to fund it. And now they're demanding we strip funding for the very agency responsible for stopping all of that. It's another dangerous game, a political game by Democrats that's as foolish as it is perilous.
Charlie Kirk
They've got no program for the country other than disenfranchisement, voter suppression, the SAVE act, which I think violates the 19th Amendment. When you tell American women you bring your driver's license and you bring your birth certificate, and if they don't match, which they won't for 69 million American women, then you need to bring a passport, and half of the people don't have passports, you know, so, yeah, just go out and buy an id. That's a poll tax, you know, so that's the road they're headed down.
Andrew
Republicans say that this is just about
Charlie Kirk
voters having to show ID and proof
Joe Kent
of citizenship in order to vote.
Charlie Kirk
What's wrong with that?
News Anchor
This is about one thing. Ensuring that it is much harder for
Charlie Kirk
people who are unlikely to go to
News Anchor
the polls and vote for Republicans, and that making it much harder for them to cast their ballot, putting obstacles in the path of people who simply want
Charlie Kirk
to exercise their right to vote, which
News Anchor
is the most precious right we have.
Nate Morris
Well, look, there's one candidate on this stage that's been very clear about immigration from the beginning, and that's this campaign. I've called for a full moratorium on any new immigration until we deport every single illegal that came into this country under Joe Biden. Folks, we were invaded. They've all got to go back 100%, and we shouldn't give a dime of your taxpayer money to any illegal. There are people on this stage, like Andy Barr, that have let illegals run wild into our country, naturalized them, and given them all kinds of opportunities that should have gone to American citizens. I think immigration again colors this affordability debate, folks. We got so many illegals on our rolls. We got so many illegal folks that are taking advantage of our health care system, our education. They're congesting our roads, they're overrunning our hospitals. But most importantly, they are undercutting the wages of the American worker. And one of the great ways to deal with affordability is to get all of the illegals out of our country so we can give those opportunities to American citizens and make sure they've got the opportunity that they've earned that should go to Americans and not illegals that are invading our country.
Winton Hall
And let me tell you something I've
Charlie Kirk
not shared with anybody. But the last mess that Charlie Kirk
Winton Hall
gave to me before he joined his
Charlie Kirk
creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on
Winton Hall
the radical left organizations in this country
Charlie Kirk
that are fomenting violence. That was the last message that he
Winton Hall
sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us.
Charlie Kirk
And we are going to do that. We are going to do what it
Winton Hall
takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots and that are doxing, that are trying to inspire terrorism and that are committing acts of wanton violence.
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Andrew
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, your one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin, of course. So listen, we've got a lot of breaking news happening this morning. First up for bids is of course the resignation of Joe Kent. He has issued a resignation letter resigning from my position as director of National Counterterrorism center, effective today. He cites the war in Iran as his reason. He said there was no imminent threat. That that was, you know, concocted narrative. And he is out, he is out at the Counterterrorism Center. Blake, this is going to be used by a lot of people that don't like this conflict currently to, you know, attack the administration ironically and perhaps intentionally. DNI Tulsi Gabbard is scheduled to testify before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence tomorrow as well as the House, House's counterpart committee. So the timing seems to be rather intentional here.
Andrew
It very well may be. It's, it's certainly the first high profile departure from the administration that is explicitly over the Iran conflict. It might not be the last one. As you said, it's, it's possible Tulsi could quit. It's possible others could step aside. Now, whether that's a good idea, even if you're a skeptic of the war, I think can be debated because what you do anytime you quit like this is you are, you're stepping aside, you're letting the president and, you know, probably the people who are most in favor of the change install someone else in your place. So it's kind of, it's a decision to give up on the administration, which we're one year in, there's a lot of presidency to go and there's a lot of problems we genuinely still need to deal with. And so I think even if you're worried about this war, even if you're concerned about it starting, even if you're concerned about how it will end, I don't necessarily see how it's useful to do a big gesture like this unless you've just decided you're totally out. And I'm thinking back to how annoying it was in the President's first term when you had people doing these big public resignation jobs, mostly on the other side. I remember Mattis quitting and then he became a big thorn in the side of the administration. Tillerson, you had a lot of that. And I don't think it. I don't think it made the president well disposed towards those people. And in that sense, it kind of did help us over time because it was a lot of people on the more moderate wing of the party stepping out. But if the people on the more anti war wing are now the ones giving the President grief, I do wonder how that might affect the President's approach to things.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I mean, obviously Joe Kent is making a calculation here that this will become a PR issue for the administration, that he can accomplish more to stop the war if he does something like this. I don't think that's going to happen. Speculation is that he is potentially already scheduled to be on the Tucker Carlson show to discuss his reason for resigning. You know, there is, interestingly enough, a tweet of his going around where he discusses, you know, that Iran has been trying to assassinate President Trump since the Soleimani attack in Trump 1.0. So a lot of people are sort of throwing that back in his face saying, you know, you know what. What changed, Joe? Because it does seem like, you know, a country trying to assassinate our president is a pretty dramatic and I would say confrontational step. So if Joe Kent was aware of the nature of these attacks and the seriousness of these attacks, I mean, you could justify an attack against Iran simply on that measure alone. So I have mixed feelings here. Listen, I am. I think I've been very clear that I am not 100% always rah rah in favor of regime change, nor was Charlie. As a matter of fact, we warn against it. We. We want peace. But when the decision was made by President Trump to go, then we are then in support of our troops, we're in support of success in this war, and we want it to be a good thing for the world. But, you know, so listen, I actually think Joe Kent being a counter voice, a voice of restraint, can be a good thing. To your point, Blake, maybe you make the argument he could achieve more for the effort of peace by being in that position than being out. But obviously he's made the decision not to. Now, Joe Kent, I want to be very clear, is somebody that has served his nation multiple deployments. He lost his wife in, in the. I believe it was. I forget exactly which. Yeah, it Was Afghanistan. Yeah. So he lost his wife there. He's been through a lot. I do believe he's a patriot. He. But there's a lot of people that have come out against Joe Kent. For those not aware of the inside baseball, Joe Kent was probably one of the most controversial figures within the Trump admin. He's been accused of leaking documents multiple times. I have no evidence to conclude one
Andrew
way or the other.
Charlie Kirk
That's certainly the rumor though that he's been leaking. And so you could make the argument that from the administration standpoint that this is actually a good thing to sort of remove him from that position. But yeah, now speculation is going to arise about the future of Tulsi Gabbard. I, I tend to not believe that she's going to resign. I think that she is a patriot who would probably make the opposite choice of Joe Kent. But yeah, this is what tomorrow's hearings are going to be all about now. Well, I think the House and in
Andrew
the Senate, the other stuff you have to look towards is if he's, if he's resigning dramatically, I mean if he just wanted to step out, he could just say I'm resigning. And I am basically saying nothing more. He could resign without a public letter. He could resign with a very brief one. But instead, as you say, it's a longer one that is clearly intended to get attention. He explicitly says why he's quitting. I believe he even says. Does he even mention. Yeah, you know, he's talking about an echo chamber. He's talking about. He is explicitly blaming Israel for it and all of that. Like this is an attention getting move. And you think of what's next. And what I think we might see is I think this is escalating the possibility. We might see some sort of, let's just say it, third party presidential run in 2028. He might be positioning himself for something like that, positioning himself for a primary challenge in some sort of congressional or Senate race. I'm. What I would suspect is this could be a step towards some sort of more aggressively anti war coalition that might break away from the President, might explicitly break away from maga. And if that's going to take place, I wonder who else might join it. And throwing that out there. I'd love. Email us Freedom CharlieKirk, what do you make of this? Because I know a lot of you would be Jo Kent fans in the past, but does this sour you on him or do you think he's in the right? We would love to see what your takes are.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And he specifically does. He says early in the administration, high ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign deployed designed to wholly undermine your America first platform and sowed pro war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran. This echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States. So he's pointing the finger squarely at Israel. He's pointing the finger squarely at the neocon factions within the D.C. conservative establishment. So big shot across the bow. There's no doubt this is a big moment. And it's yet to be seen exactly how it's going to play out, what the ramifications are. But we're all over it. I want to tell you guys about Strong Sellers. This was Charl, one of Charlie's favorite supplements. Why? Because it delivers nadh directly to your cells. What is nadh? It's the power source for your cells at a very granular level. It is amazing stuff. As a matter of fact, I don't have it with me because I'm traveling. Blake, you're gonna have to be thethe one that takes it for me today. But what's amazing about nadh is it used to have to get into your cells by way of intravenous applications. You had to get an IV to do it. Now you don't have to do it because the guys at Strong Cell have had this breakthrough. It's a proprietary. Proprietary. If I can get it out. Delivery mechanism of NADH. It's amazing. So go to strongcell.com check it out today. Use promo code Charlie to get 20% off your first order and you get a 90 day risk free money back guarantee. Check it out today. We will be right back.
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Charlie Kirk
Yes. Happy St. Patrick's Day all of you out there. All you Irish. I'm wearing my green blazer. I'm told it's green. I'm a little colorblind. So to me it looks that doesn't
Andrew
look green at All, I'll be honest,
Charlie Kirk
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Andrew
Yeah, another one here, Kyrie. I was not familiar with Joe Kent until now, but looking at face value, it appears he's trying to make a noticeable statement against the President's decisions and not simply bowing out quietly due to personal convictions. That's not a good look. Also, whenever someone blames Israel for their problems, they lose a level of respect from me and earn a level of suspicion.
Charlie Kirk
Kim says. Kim says. Dear CKs show yes, I support Joe Kent as a third time Trump voter. I have no idea what he's doing right now. Maybe more resignations are needed in order to send that message. I'm feeling betrayed. So she's feeling betrayed, I believe, by the, by the decision to go, go into the conflict with Iran. So, yeah, listen, we've got people that are supporting Joe Kent's decision. We have people that are upset with this, which is very common when it comes to issues of foreign policy. I have said it, Charlie has said it. There is no issue that, that divides the coalition quite like foreign policy. And then you combine that with the fact that we're making these strikes in cooperation in coordination with Israel and it's a, it's a combustible situation. There's just no way to get around it. The other piece of news that's happening right now is there is rumors of a Senate takeover on the floor of the US Senate for passage of the Save America Act. So we heard that last night that, that these rumors are swirling. The, the Hill reported that there could be a takeover. Let's go ahead and play this. Cut 20 now.
News Anchor
Word leaked earlier today, Senator, that Trump allies are planning a floor takeover. Now, what does that mean? I assume that's you. What does that mean? And how will that make it more likely that this becomes law?
Nate Morris
I have absolutely no idea what a floor takeover means.
Charlie Kirk
But if a floor takeover means that
Winton Hall
we're going to make filibustering senators speak
Charlie Kirk
against this bill, heck yeah, I'm all for it. Let's do it.
Nate Morris
Let's take over the floor.
Charlie Kirk
So it's basically that a few of President Trump, Trump's allies in the Senate are allegedly planning to hold the floor, which will stop everything else until something happens with the Save America. So they're going to basically commandeer the Senate floor to force this motion forward. Now, it is widely popular, we've all talked about that. About 84% of all Americans support voter ID in some way, shape or form. And the Democrats don't want to see this happen. And it's very clear why they don't want to see something popular happen. It's because this is core and central to the Democrat business model. They need to offer incentive, incentives, opportunity, civic engagement to illegal immigrants in order to get more of them to come and more of them to stay. They have lost the trust of native born Americans of citizens and therefore they need to incentivize this transformation effort, this project to transform the electorate of the United States by encouraging illegals to be able to vote. Now we could have arguments till we're blue in the face about how many are actually voting in our elections. I think there are some, I think there are enough to be concerned about potentially. There is a determinative amount of these people voting in some jurisdictions. Regardless. If you think there are none that are voting, why would you care that we pass voter ID then? If the laws are so good it's already illegal, why would we not simply pass something? Because if it's not going to have an impact. Well, their argument is that a lot of people, married women, black voters, minority voters, can't get ID that would prove that they're eligible to vote. That's their argument. Their argument is that married women are too dumb to go prove that their married name is now their legal name to vote by. So, you know, Blake, I don't know what you make of those arguments. I tend to find that this is another bigotry of low expectations argument from the left and it holds no water. But they're not gonna vote for this.
Andrew
Yeah, I mean, they're not like, look, either Republicans in the Senate want voter ID and want, you know, federal election security stuff, or they don't. And they can either actually pass it or they cannot. And I think even if this doesn't pass, I think we're, we're really seeing very starkly the limits of what a Republican Senate is able to do as long as the filibuster is in place. And maybe now isn't the time to get rid of it because we might only have Congress for the next six months, basically. But on the other hand, like at some point I think it's going to get thrown out and then you're going to have to have more seriousness about what we can pass. We've seen over and over again that the Republicans can make very big promises and then they fail to pass anything because we have this fake Congress that needs a super majority to do anything. And I think at the least this is forcing us to get closer to making Congress real. And I prefer to take the long view. The long view is what are all the things that we can do when we have a fully real Congress that can pass things with 51 votes or 50 votes. And this is just step one. I like the save act. I think it matters. But I think there's a whole bunch of other things that we should also be building out for the day when we can have 50 votes to pass things.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. The question central to this morning's debate on the floor of the Senate is is this more failure, the this performative? Are they really serious? And I have not seen the, the proof from leader th that this is actually a serious effort. I think he's trying to save face. I hope I'm wrong. We're going to talk to Tommy Tuberville, Coach Tuberville next to get his perspective. Be right back. Warning, you're entering a not safe for the regime media zone. Facts incoming. All right. I' telling you about it for a while now. You need to make the switch today to Patriot Mobile. The money you spend on your wireless, if you're spending on woke wireless, you're funding LGBTQ stuff, trans stuff, you're funding all the bad things that we don't want in this country. There's only one Christian conservative wireless provider in the entire country. That's Patriot Mobile. Glenn and Jenny Story are absolute patriots. They're down in Texas. They're fighting for that state. They're fighting the Islamification of Texas, which we're going to get to with Coach Tuberville in just a second. You got to get behind them, help support their work by supporting their company. They have. They're with all three major wireless carriers. So you get the same great service you've already come to expect and appreciate 100% US based customer support. That's huge. You're supporting more American jobs. So take a stand today. Go to patriot mobile.com charlie or you can call them at 972 Patriot and use the promo code Charlie to get a free month of service. Don't wait, do it today. I've been telling you, I'm going to keep telling you, you got to make the switch today. It's easy. Only takes a couple minutes. Patriot mobile.com charlie or call 972-patriot Speaking of patriots, that would be our next guest, Coach Tuberville. Senator Tuberville out of the great state of Alabama. And he's going to be leaving the senate soon. He's going to be the next governor of that state. But there's Work to do on the Hill. And he's still. He's mixing it up. Senator, welcome back. Honored to have you.
Tommy Tuberville
Yeah, thank you.
Charlie Kirk
You caused quite a stir this week with your. The enemy is inside the gates. And it was a picture of the Twin towers on fire next to Mayor Mamdani sitting on the floor for, I guess, some sort of Ramadan feast inside the mayor's mansion in New York. The enemy is inside the gates. I think you're at 17 million views on that tweet, Senator. Tell us about it.
Tommy Tuberville
Well, first of all, I love this country. My dad gave his life on active duty in the military. I'm doing this job because, you know, I had a pretty good and successful career in coaching. But I said, you know, I want to go help our country because we got a lot of problems, and it's something we can fix. Well, to come up here, you have to identify the problem. And I've identified a lot of problems. And one of them is these people from these third world countries that hate our country and they wish death to all Americans that don't believe in the Koran and their cult. And we had better wake up. There's a great example of this, Andrew, and it's in UK, Italy, France, and Germany. They have lost their countries to these third world people that want to preach and teach Sharia law. And they want to bow down to the Quran, which is their Bible that believes and preaches death to all infidels. Which, by the way, an infidel is somebody that doesn't believe in what they believe in. And so they want to kill all of us. And what the hell are we thinking? I mean, these people are a threat to our society and our way of life. They. They've ruined Europe, and we're not going to allow them to do it here. And you got this Mandami guy in New York. He sets around on. On towels and. And. And prayer rugs, and he's got a Quran on his desk, and we're supposed to listen to him. Give me a break. I'm not going to do it, and I'm gonna fight against it every day.
Charlie Kirk
Well, you're a brave man. And, you know, I would say that all good Muslims want to take over Western civilization. They are loyal to Mecca. They pray to the east because they don't care about. They're not loyal to this country, let's put it that way. Now, Chuck Schumer had an issue with your tweet here. He said, this is mindless hate. Muslim Americans are cops, doctors, Nurses, teachers, bankers, bricklayers, mothers, fathers, neighbors, mayors and more. And mayors is right. Islamophobic hate like this is fundamentally un American. I disagree, Senator Schumer. And we must confront and overcome it whenever it rears its ugly head. Okay, this is coming from a Jewish senator, which is ironic, but then I want to, I want to, I want to contrast his statement with a very important clip. This is an imam in Florida. Cut 22.
Andrew
There's 7, nearly 7 million American Muslims right now.
Charlie Kirk
Alhamdulillah. Let's take gratitude in the fact that we're here in the great state of Florida.
Andrew
Part of power building is building a pipeline of leaders.
Charlie Kirk
I want to see Inshaallah one day. Governor of the state of Florida is a Muslim. Everybody say insha'. Allah. The house has Muslims in there saying sha'. Allah. Senators. Muslim senators say insha'.
Andrew
Allah.
Charlie Kirk
They have a plan, Senator, and they are executing it.
Tommy Tuberville
You're exactly right. They have a plan, Andrew, and we don't. What we're doing is we're worrying about all the small things in our country, and we're not watching the gates of people coming in. Joe Biden almost ruined this country with 10 or 15 million illegal immigrants, a lot of them criminals. President Trump's doing his best, but he's fighting the Democrats every day to get these people out. Chuck Schumer, the Democrats. I was a Color of the week last week. In other words, they passed my name around. Hey, go after coach. But he had something to say about some of our future and potential voters. Listen, President Trump got 77 million votes. He got a lot of African American vote. He got a lot of union votes. And so they can't win if a guy like President Trump starts stealing, you know, their voting base. Who's their new voting base? Their new girlfriend is illegal aliens. And Muslims. Muslims that believe in Sharia law and the Koran. Now, listen, I've got some good Muslim friends, but they love this country. They want to make this country better. And they're not out there preaching hate and kill all Americans. If you go along with what we're doing in this country and believe in our Constitution, our laws, hey, I'm all for you. I don't care if you're Muslim, Catholic, Baptist, makes me no difference. I want Americans to live in this country, not people that are going to try to kill other Americans, that's not going to happen.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I think that's well said, Senator. And I, I, we're with you 100%. You know, and Charlie always made the distinction between micro and macro. He believed that macro Islam was not compatible with American values or with the west at all. Micro, yes. There's individual Muslims that are wonderful people and they're. They're great Americans, but again, a lot of those are bad Muslims. I don't mean that in a. As a pejorative. I mean that as a compliment to them. If you're a good Muslim and you take the word of the Quran verbatim, then we are infidels that need to be subjugated, conquered and controlled.
Andrew
Yeah. Quite clearly, the text of the historic core Islamic documents is far more in favor of religiously motivated violence than anything you can find in the New Testament. And it's not even close. And big picture, it's really standing out to me that it's like we have. We have a surge in this. Oh, we have. We must be maximally welcoming. We need more Islamic migration. Basically, every time there's a surge of Islamic terror, you can even look at the polls, America literally became substantially more pro Islam in the immediate aftermath of 911 because the line went out from the Bush administration, from the levers of power that, you know, the religion of peace, these are a handful of extremists, were actually very pro them otherwise. And it's become such a rote thing. It happens every single time. And. But we're clearly not being rewarded with lots of moderation. We're being rewarded with aggression, with an attitude of conquest. And if we want to see the end result of that, you can look at the uk where they now just elect members of Parliament whose sole issue is Gaza. Like you're in Britain.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Senator, I don't know if you want to react to that, but we've also had four radical Islamists attack Americans in the last month. So there's that, too. Yeah.
Tommy Tuberville
And Andrew, it's coming. We got a lot more coming. This. We're just, we're just seeing a small part of it right now. President Trump, he ticked them all off when he went into Iran. The Democrats can't stand it because I think they have more in common with Iranians. I'm talking about the Democrats, Chuck Schumer and all the Democrats than they do with Americans because they would rather fight for these, these people in terms of money and power and all those things. But, you know, the thing about it is, is we got people in this country that being indoctrinated right and left. We got people in the state of Alabama. We had a school. It was a. It was a Muslim school right outside of Birmingham. They wanted to enlarge it, but they were teaching Sharia law and the Quran in that school. And I said, no, no, no, no. And we had, fortunately, a lot of school, school members that's parents went to a school board meeting and blocked this expansion of this, of this nonsense that they preach. So it's, it's going everywhere. We got hundreds and hundreds of mosques all this country, all over this country. We have people praying in the streets. Now they can't pray in the streets in these Muslim countries, but they're doing it in our streets in New York and, and Detroit and California. It's nonsense. And so we have to take our country back over again. If they're going to take Europe back over, they're probably going to have to fight in the streets to get it back. We don't want to get to that point. Let's stop it right now. Let's stop this nonsense. If you're going to be in this country, be an American, go by constitution, go by our laws. If you can't do that, it's time for you to hit the gates.
Charlie Kirk
Amen. Want to turn our attention really quick, Senator, to the Save America Act. It's the vote or the debate is happening right now in the Senate. Tell us what you know. What can we expect today?
Tommy Tuberville
Well, this is more of a show week. We can't get it passed. And it's probably one of the most crucial pieces of legislation, single pieces that we, that we, that we will face. When I go back to Alabama, people look at me as a coach. Please tell me my vote is going to count. Please tell me I'm not going to get canceled out by a non citizen in this country. And it makes you feel bad up here. You know, it's almost a 90% vote from people all over the country, Democrat and Republicans, that you need to get this passed. We need, you need to be a citizen to vote for our leaders in this country. We can't get anything done. We even have Republicans that are not going to vote for it. Talking filibuster is not going to work. The only way we can do it, we got to bust a filibuster. 51 votes. Get this done. Pass everything we can for President Trump between now and the election next year and we can take this country back over. But if we don't get this passed, we are doomed. We will lose the midterms. President Trump will be fighting for his life. When it comes to staying in office, it'll be a disaster for the American people and a disaster for the 250 year, 50th year of our country.
Charlie Kirk
Well, it just feels like this is more failure theater, though, if we can't get it passed. It feels like leader thunes just trying to save face and there's no option. 10 seconds.
Tommy Tuberville
The big thing, the big thing is they said we got to keep the filibuster. It's tradition. And I tell them, listen, folks, I don't work for the tradition. I don't work for the Senate. I work for the people of this country. And it's time to wake up and smell the roses that this is not going to work the way we're doing it.
Charlie Kirk
Amen, sir. You are a patriot. We have your back 100%. Thank you for saying the hard things and the true things and being fearless, and we're gonna miss you in the Senate, but I know you're. The state of Alabama is lucky to have you as their next governor. So we got your back there, too. So, coach, we'll see it. We'll see you soon, I'm sure. God bless.
Tommy Tuberville
God bless.
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Andrew
I think that's about the least surprising thing ever, and that's why I brought it up at the start. If your goal is to influence President Trump in one direction or another, because he is a guy who can tilt different ways. There's no substitute for proximity. He's a person who cares, who listens most to the people who are around him the most. He's the person who. He prioritizes loyalty, people who stay on the team. And so if you're going to make a big stunt of leaving and kind of denouncing the process, even if his letter is still worded so it's not blaming the president. You know, it's like these bad advisors have led the president astray. Like the president is going to see what he really meant there. And yeah, now he's. He's out. And I guess to the extent you, you know, we care about more pro peace people influencing the president, that's one less voice down. And he's pretty annoyed at the way he went out. And I think that might affect his attitude going forward.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I got another constituent or near constituent. He was never in Congress, but Vernon says, I live in Joe's district and attended a half dozen of his town halls during his campaign. I spoke several times with him and my impression is that he is genuine and a patriot. Mail in voting in Washington cheated him twice against the socialists. So I was happy to see him get a position in the administration. I feel like he is just against any war and believes we should be helping our own country. Okay, that's fine. Roger says, ugh, so frustrating. Joe can't tell you Republicans is like herding cats. It's very, very true. A lot of you got a lot of emails about the Muslim conversation we just had with Coach Tuberville. Roger says, exactly. All good Mohammedans want to take over all toward the caliphate. Yep. Well, a lot of. A lot of. A lot of reaction here. So thanks for sending your emails in. I want to tell you about a story here that's just. I. I'm so frustrated about it. Small aside, this illegal immigrant. Israel Flores Ortiz, 18, turning 19. He's charged with nine counts of assault and battery for allegedly groping multiple girls at a Fairfax high school in Virginia. In the hallways. And we're not just talking, you know, groping on top. We're talking all over the place. And it's really disgusting. I was just so infuriated by this story, I wanted to make sure we got to it. Here's the news report. Cut 21.
News Anchor
Fairfax county leaders allowed him. Allowed him to attend high school, and parents say he groped female classmates for months. Prosecutors have now charged him with nine counts of assault and battery. He came to the United States illegally. From el Salvador in 2024. He enrolled as a junior in high school. Victims say he would creep up behind them and in crowded hallways and grabbed them between their legs. DHS and ICE are asking the nation's sanctuary leaders to turn him over for deportation, but the new laws under the Democrat governor don't allow that. Israel Flores Ortiz is currently being held without bond at the Fairfax County Adult Attention Detention center, which is operated by the county sheriff's office. According to its website, it does not honor ICE administrative detainers.
Charlie Kirk
So here's a story where an illegal immigrant who came in under Biden now goes to a high school. He's a grown man at 19 years old, and he's coming up behind young American women and grabbing them between the legs. And we can't get rid of this person because the democrats said they were going to be moderates and we're going to put in Spanberger. And look at her, she looks so normal. And she wins. And now the first thing that they did was say that we're not gonna cooperate with ICE and dhs. And so now young American women at a high school where they should be safe and protected and nurtured are getting groped between the legs by an illegal and we can't get rid of them.
Andrew
I mean, that's the entire point. Like, that is the point. There is no rock bottom to this. We have seen this in country after country. We mentioned the uk. The UK is a good harbinger of this. Even though they have a lower immigrant population than us, they're more deranged in what they put up with there, which is they had a huge number of Muslims from the most backward part of the world come in. These Muslims were literally targeting young girls who are native to Britain and like gang raping them. And police knew about this and covered it up to make sure that it would continue to happen. They continue to cover it up to make sure that it continues to happen. And they lie about it and they continue to bring in more and more of them. While these guys will like gloat on TikTok about how awesome it is that they're taking over the UK and so same deal here. Like, it would be trivial. It would be trivial for the left to accept. Oh, actually, yeah, okay, criminals, you can send them back. Like, we won't let you go into these certain areas. Like, they could choose a moderate position. They affirmatively refuse to do so. They want unlimited criminals from the third world to come to America and continue to prey on Americans, hurt Americans, rape Americans, kill Americans because it would be easy to stop that. And they do not want it stopped, period.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, they don't want it stopped. And then you combine that with the Save America act, which they are vehemently coming out against despite the polling because again, they, their whole system requires them to import more and more foreign born voters, get them on the rolls, get them taken your welfare so they never leave, and then not allowing ICE to deport the illegals, even the criminals. So, so this is a good point, Blake. You know, we have this conversation about the worst first and the criminal thugs. That's who we're focusing on versus we're getting all of them out. This is what happens when you, when you give them an inch. They will take a mile. If you just say we're going to get the worst first. They won't even honor that. They will pass laws like they did in Virginia where you can't even get the worst out. There is no definition of the worst first. Where a 19 year old man who's groping the crotches of young girls at a high school is not the worst first. This is sexual assault. This is disgusting. We don't do that in America. And if you do that in America, you get thrown in prison. And now we can't even get them out of the country. This is the insanity of the left. This is the world that they want to create where it's always systemic oppression. They're always the victims. No, the girls that he groped were the victims. The little girls are the victims. Their parents, their families are the victims. This monster needs to be put on a plane straight to Seekot and let Bukele deal with him. Okay, Is an El Salvadorian illegal that is a absolute monster and a criminal and needs to be removed immediately, not put on some voter roll. That's what they want to do. They want to put this guy on the voter rolls to go harass more young women. So when you're tempted to doom and gloom and look at like the podcaster wars or whatever we're calling it, just remember that Democrats are unacceptable. Just, just remember that. Because the burn it all down folks that want to go vote tell you to vote for Democrats right now because we got to rebuild the GOP in a more ideologically pure image. It's garbage. Because when you do that, they are genuinely losers.
Andrew
They don't care.
Charlie Kirk
They're losers that are not part of the, the process to even improve the gop. We'll be back an hour too. So much more to get to. Don't go Anywhere.
Terrence Bates
Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates, President Trump hosting Ireland's Prime Minister at the White House right now. About 30 minutes ago or so, the duo answered questions from reporters in the Oval Office. And while the commander in chief raised concerns about Europe's immigration and energy policies, many of the questions he faced had to do with the ongoing war with Iran.
Charlie Kirk
Iran is just a military operation. To me, Iran is something that was essentially largely over in two or three days because the Navy was wiped out almost immediately. The Air Force came next, the anti aircraft came next. I mean, we're flying over Iran. We could take out their electric capacity in one hour. We have all the. There's nothing they can do right now because everything is knocked out.
Terrence Bates
And new this morning, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent, is out. Kent resigned saying that he, quote, cannot in good conscience back the Trump administration's war in Iran. Kent also argues that Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation and it's clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. Those remarks, the first significant public pushback to the ongoing military operations. Iran from, from a ranking Trump administration official. President Trump, responding to Kent's criticism, saying that he was weak, also responded to the criticism. House Speaker Mike Johnson we all understood
John Thune
there was clearly an imminent threat that Iran was very close to the enrichment of nuclear capability and they were building missiles at a pace that no one in the region could keep up with. They were far outpacing our allies and, and friends and us in our defense capability because we had personnel, installations, members of the armed services and civilians in the region. Iran was building up ballistic missiles at such a rapid pace and we knew that their plan was to fire them upon Americans. The commander in chief and his administration had a very difficult decision to make. I don't know where Joe Kent is getting his information, but he wasn't in those briefings, clearly because the Secretary of State, the Secretary of War and everyone, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Kaine, they had exquisite intelligence that we understood that this was a serious moment for us. Had the President waited, I am personally convinced that we would have mass casualties of Americans, service members and others and our installations would have been dramatically damaged.
Terrence Bates
Meantime, Israel is confirming the deaths of a couple of high ranking Iranian leaders who were killed in Israeli airstrikes. The IDF says that it killed Ali Larjani in the biggest targeted killing since former Supreme Leader Khamenei. The strike also killed the leader of Basij, which is the Revolutionary Guard civilian paramilitary militia back here in the United States. The U.S. senate debating the Save America act right now. The voter integrity bill would require prospective voters to show proof of citizenship in order to register to vote. The measure also includes a provision for voters to show identification in order to cast ballots. Senate Majority Leader John Thune bringing the bill to the, to the Senate floor. Excuse me, for a vote, despite the expectation that it will fail.
John Thune
You're going to hear me use the adjective common sense a lot in this debate, Mr. President, because if there's any word that is suitable to describe the measures we're considering, it's that, Mr. President, if there's anything essential to the integrity of elections, it's ensuring that those who are registered to vote are eligible to vote and that those who show up to vote at polling places are those who they say they are.
Terrence Bates
President Trump has said that he will not sign any new bills until the Save America act is passed. Some lawmakers in the U.S. house are also threatening not to vote on any new legislation until their colleagues in the U.S. senate pass the Save America Act. We, of course, will continue to monitor it for you throughout the day and let you know how things ultimately shape up. Scammers and Fraudsters beware, because J.D. vance and the federal government are coming after you. On Monday, President Trump signed an executive order appointing Vice President Vance chairman of a new fraud task force. The White House points to social services scams in Minnesota that have already led to dozens of indictments and cost taxpayers billions of dollars. The president also says there's a strong reason to believe that similar vulnerabilities exist in California, Illinois, New York, Maine, as well as Colorado. That's a quick check of your headline.
Charlie Kirk
Foreign. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. Got a lot of feedback from a lot of people on our little rant about this illegal groping young, young girls at the Fairfax, Virginia high school. I think a lot of you share my irritants, my irritation about that. It's more than that, though. It's anger. Americans have been victimized by wave after wave of illegal immigration. We did not have to do this. This was a choice that we made. And by the way, it's not just legal immigration. It's legal immigration that needs to be reformed. That's something that we talk a lot about. I'm getting a lot of feedback, by the way, as well, from the audience about Coach Tuberville basically calling out the Senate saying we're not going to get the Save America act passed. So we need to be willing to blow up the filibuster to do it. And I think he seems to think we have 50 votes, think we need to do that and some legal immigration reform. How about it? We're waiting for our next guest here. While we're waiting, I'm gonna play some clips from a debate for Senate in Kentucky. Nate Morris is who we've endorsed in that race. He's a great American and he was going after some of these exact issues. Let's play cut 11.
Nate Morris
Well, look, there's one candidate on this stage that's been very clear about immigration from the beginning, and that's this campaign. I've called for a full moratorium on any new immigration until we deport every single illegal that came into this country under Joe Biden. Folks, we were invaded. They've all got to go back 100% and we shouldn't give a dime of your taxpayer money to any illegal. There are people on this stage like Andy Barr that have let illegals run wild into our country, naturalize them and given them all kinds of opportunities that should have gone to American citizens.
Charlie Kirk
Perfectly said by Nate Morris. That's why Charlie endorsed him. That's why we're endorsing them. Blake, what do you think that it's gonna take to get immigration moratorium? This idea of it mainstreamed within the conservative political establishment? It's very mainstream with the base.
Andrew
There's an old line about scientists that science moves forward one funeral at a time, that there are people who are stuck in old ideas, they don't update. I mean, in general, we have a very old Congress. How often do people who are, you know, really old completely change their worldview, completely adopt new ways of thinking? And the answer is, I mean, there are some exceptions, but the answer is it doesn't happen a lot. Most of the time people get pretty set in their ways by middle age, by later age. And so the main way this is going to happen is we're going to be getting new lawmakers. So that's why we need to champion guys like Morris. And, you know, think about as much as we complain about Congress, they're so much better than they were a decade ago. And that was the process of getting in new guys that you have J.D. vance come in to the Senate, you have Tuberville come into the Senate, you have guys who are more, I don't know, hip with the new ideas of the younger base. And, you know, people rise in esteem. You know, Stephen Miller goes from this 30 something Senate staffer to this senior aide in the White House. That is what gradually brings it about. So even if it's not everyone coming around to it yet, I think you'll eventually get there because it's an idea whose time has come.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Well, I think this is interesting, too. It plays off of our sort of. It wasn't a debate, but it was a back to back yesterday with Paul Danz and Mark lynch that are working to unseat Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. I have gotten so much feedback. We posted both of those debates on my X feed. It was most of those interviews on my X feed, but they're back to back. I had people coming out of the woodwork, people that I haven't heard from in a long time. Repost that back to back. I want to hear from you in the audience. Who do you want to see be the next senator from the state of South Carolina? Do you like Paul Danz?
Tommy Tuberville
Do you like.
Charlie Kirk
Do you like Mark Lynch? I don't know, Blake, if you, if you have an opinion after interviewing both of them. But I think that's. That's an interesting one. I'm. I think I have my favorite.
Andrew
You know, I don't. I think they both had their pluses. I haven't super deeply investigated the differences between them. I think they both made good points. I think organically, I'm probably a little bit closer to Dan's attitude. I mean, he was helming Project 2025. I really liked Project 2025. He's got that, like, legal bureaucrat mindset when he's talking, when he's saying stuff, oh, we need to have American graduate students again because we've had too many foreigners coming to him. That's something I've talked about. That's something you're not gonna hear a lot of political candidates talk about. So he's certainly, I think, closer to my approach to things, but I don't want to make an endorsement yet because I think. I think they both had merits.
Charlie Kirk
Well, I think that there's a lot to like about both of them. I loved Mark lynch going after radical Islam. He pulled no punches. I think he's a man of God. I think he's got great character. I love that Paul Danz is very fiery and he wants to prosecute evildoers. I think that's a huge boost of energy that we need in the Senate. Going after people like Fauci, going after fraud, going after illegal immigrants. I love all that. And the Project 25, 2025 thing is, you know, listen, I don't necessarily think it was the best thing during the campaign. Obviously President Trump tried to distance himself from it. But there's so much good in Project 2025. There are so many good ideas that would genuinely make the country a better place. And the fact that Paul Danz was the architect of those plans is definitely a, I would say a positive in his direction. I also like that he's younger. You know, you think about South Carolina, Blake, and you've got a state where, you know, we have a safe Republican seat at least now, and we've been wasting it for how many years on Lindsey Graham. Like the Democrats would never do that. You would get an actual like rock ribbed true believer if you were a Democrat. But what do we get? We get these, these squishes that talk out of both sides of their mouth and they don't represent the grassroots. Well, I think it's time to fix that in South Carolina. I too am not sure I'm ready to endorse. I will say I like both of them. I think I, I mean, maybe I should just say it. I'm. I would probably be leaning towards dance. That's where I'm at. But I like both of them. So it's up to the voters to decide. I want to hear what you guys think. Send us an email. Freedom Charlie Kirk dot com. Freedom Charlie Kirk dot com. Let us know who did you prefer after our back?
Andrew
It's so funny you say that just because we instantly get two emails. One from Janie says Mark lynch definitely, and then one from Gerard says, I'm for Paul. Dan's like, right, like that.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Andrew
So I mean, each of them has some appeal to different people.
Charlie Kirk
That's the problem in South Carolina. You got to get to a runoff. One of these men, if they, if they dropped out, I think would really put a lot of energy in the sales of the other gentlemen. Mark lynch has more money, so that's gonna be in his favor. But I think Paul Dan's to me feels a bit more like the grassroots guy. So we'll see what happens there. Send us your emails. Freedom Charlie Kirk.com I believe. So we had a bit of a scheduling issue. We're gonna have Rich Barris flip flop. He's gonna be joining us in the next segment. And I'll tell you why I had Rich Barris join us. I was texting with him yesterday and he was basically like, I'm feeling pretty bullish today. Which if you know anything about Rich, is notew. So Rich has been probably one of the More, I don't want to say Doomer Black pillars, but he's been very negative about some of the decisions that have been made and he's been vocal about that. He's taken a lot of incoming for it. And so I think that's noteworthy. When Rich says, listen, there is hope, there is hope for the midterms, there is a reason to be optimistic. So Rich Barrett's gonna be joining us in just a second as he, as he gets, as he gets ready. But I want to tell you about blackout coffee. I love blackout coffee. It is. I took it on the road. I literally took the coffee that they send us. I took it on the road. So while I forgot my strong cell, I have my blackout coffee. I prefer Morning Reaper. That's my favorite. I also like their two a medium roast, but they've got brutal awakening 1776 dark roast. This is a family run all American company roasting fresh coffee right here in the usa. Built by people like you that love this country, that fight for it every day. No global corporations, none of that. No woke stuff. And you can check them out today at blackout coffee.com forward slash charlie. Blackout coffee.com forward slash Charlie. Use Charlie for 20 off your first order. And for an even better deal, sign up for blackout coffee subscription. So that's how I do it. Blackout coffee subscription, save money, get free shipping and earn free coffee through their rewards program blackoutcoffee.com forward/charlie promo code charlie for 20% off your first order. Rich Barris will be joining us in just a minute. Hang right there. Blake is going to be holding it down in Phoenix. So much more to get to here. And we've got this amazing conversation on AI with a story that's going absolutely viral. We were lucky to get him. So that's coming up as well. Winton Hall. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We got Rich Barris on. Now, Rich, I told everybody in the audience that I, you know, I've been used to, if I want to get depressed, I call you and I say, how bad is it, Rich? And you're sort of famous for that now on the Internet. But you and I were texting yesterday. Yeah. Let me say you're notorious for it now on the Internet. Yeah. So. And then I, I basically were texting yesterday. And you're like, listen, I feel, I actually feel pretty good today. And I was like, okay, well, you're coming on the show. Then you, you gotta, you gotta make up for the last time. So give us some good news. What's your good news?
Rich Barris
So I just think that Democrats are in this crazy transition time.
Tommy Tuberville
All right.
Rich Barris
And whether how much this will help Republicans going into November, I think is debatable, reasonably debatable. But I, I would tell Republicans who are worried about the coalition, and, you know, I am, that Democrats are a mess, and they have a very difficult time holding things together and not overreacting or, you know, they're like honing a good message right now. But what they do with that message, if and when they win with it is totally different, Andrew. They don't agree on it at all. They don't even know which way they want to go for, you know, a nominee, which is things that, you know, parties normally work out, and sometimes it works out for the best. We saw that with Barack Obama. He came out as a stronger candidate no. 8 when they went through that process. Republicans certainly came out with a stronger candidate and Donald Trump, when they went through a similar process. I think the difference is now is that Democrats are just crazy. I mean, there's no nice way to put it. I, I try to always sound objective, but the fact is they're way outside the mainstream with average American voters. So it'll, it'll, it means they need to pay all that more attention, you know, to their message and be all more disciplined with that message. A great example of that is, you know, I was talking ironically with a reporter from CNN yesterday, and I used a similar example, which was they thought with, you know, with getting, for instance, gay marriages. Right.
Andrew
All right.
Rich Barris
They were able to move the, the Overton win on Overton window on that. But then they misinterpreted it and they took it as, all right, now we're just going to chop off the genitalia of little kids, too.
Howie Mandel
Like, they just thought they had all
Rich Barris
this and they went into the, they went too far and they went into the trans movement and they just went nuts. They have a tendency to do that. They're not the old Democratic Party. They used to be.
Charlie Kirk
So, you know, yeah, but rich. But like that, you're talking about 20, 28. What about the midterms? I mean, there's, you know, you had Joe Kent leaving this morning announcing his departure from the administration. President Trump says, good, you know, we don't want those guys around. I mean, it was predictable response, you know, but, you know, there is, we've got Iran going on. We've got affordability. There's economic things to consider. Most people just care about how much money they have in their wallet at the end of the month. What? Okay, so this bodes well for 2028. Is there any good news for the midterms?
Rich Barris
Well, you said stay positive. What am I positive?
Andrew
I'm just.
Rich Barris
Guys. I mean, I tried to scream and yell for almost a year now about how to fix 2026. There is still roughly an 18% chance historically that Republicans could turn it around so much that they even win the national house. Popular, but it is just 18%. I think that there have been decisions made that sent the Republican Party on a course. You know, we have a habit of saying, you know, it's eight months from now, it's nine months from now, it's still a lot of time. But the truth is there are macro. You know, we can start to get a macro view of things and look back at previous election cycles when, you know, parties had reasons. There was like a real mitigating factor that contributed to them being able to turn it around or overperform. Democrats are great example. In 22, they overperform. But there were key things that happened that year that allowed them to overperform in certain places, and that was their get out the vote, which is a big deal. I mean, here's. You want positivity? I'll give you positivity. Seriously. And I'm. This isn't, you know, glazing. You have people like you guys and Tyler out there, you know, with Chase the vote. This is enormously important. All right. Democrats are much more decentralized, which I know is weird. It's kind of ironic. You have the party of centralized government who decentralizes their get out the vote. But in fact of the matter is, Republicans still do have a playbook that worked for them in 24. You know, the Democrats still have a ground game. It's incredible.
Charlie Kirk
But they have a. They have a larger ground game. By far.
Rich Barris
By far. Yeah, but, you know, but look what happens when you have just a few competent groups that, that put together efforts like you guys and others, and Elon's back on the train, right? He's gonna. He's gonna be around. That was a major concern because, of course, he definitely played a role in 24. So, you know, there's. We're not helpless is what I'm saying. We're not.
Charlie Kirk
Well, Rich, I want to get your reaction to this new YouGov economist generic ballot here. So what? And I want to highlight it because if you look at the dates on February 16, because they run this poll every week, it was Democrats plus seven. Now it's down to Democrats plus two. Are you seeing similar trends in some of the other polls in your own internal polls?
Rich Barris
Yeah, I think I was just bringing up to Morning consult, they had a much narrower margin. It is widening again. I think there's widened back to D plus 8 in the days following that. I think it might be. Honestly, Andrew, it may be a little bit of a war, you know, a rally around the flag still effect. You know, I was looking at it in our polling. I did see a tightening. We're also seeing a bit of a widening out again. But here is honestly the difference. We're starting already, us anyway, not everyone. But over here, the real widening comes from a likely voter model, the registered voter. The Democratic advantage on registered voter samples is not that big. It's really not. And some weeks it's two points. That's it, you know. So where are they coming up with these bigger leads from and why are they outperforming? In a lot of these races we saw this year and last year, it's just a matter of who's turning out to vote. If Republicans vote, you know, it changes the entire equation and suddenly things get very, very close very quick. But that's been their challenge. That's been their challenge, you know.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, well, that's why we got to chase the boat. I mean, you have to chase the boat. So Harry Anton, your favorite, had a segment on CNN basically saying 90% of the Republican base support the war in Iran. What are you seeing on that front?
Rich Barris
Look, you know, first of all, you know, it's funny somebody like Harry Enton would suddenly be an authority on the MAGA base or the polls that he chooses to cherry pick would suddenly be an authority on the MAGA base. There's like two pollsters in the entire country who know how to pull maga and that's about it. The rest of them get lucky sometimes and don't other times. We may be the one who's been polling MAGA as asking people, are you or are you not MAGA longer than anybody else. The fact is, MAGA has shrunk. So, you know, and I can get into certain numbers. But we were trying to stay positive today. Right, Andrew? So I won't.
Charlie Kirk
That's what we're trying to.
Rich Barris
But, you know, there is a purification through subtraction going on, which I think is important for people to understand. And the people that have been subtracted are what I'm calling like, you know, all the winning parts.
News Anchor
Right.
Rich Barris
The younger voters. The younger Especially black men, Hispanics.
Charlie Kirk
Right.
Rich Barris
And by the way, I think we don't talk enough about how much better Donald Trump did with younger women in 2024. They have been one of the widest.
Charlie Kirk
I agree.
Rich Barris
Yeah, we just ignore that they have slipped the most in our polling. They, they. Some of it had to deal with Epstein. Some of the war. They don't like the war.
Charlie Kirk
Big, huge. Rich. Rich. I gotta pause it right there, my brother. Thank you for coming on. I know a little scheduling faux pas, so thank you, my friend. We'll talk.
Rich Barris
Guys, chase the vote.
Charlie Kirk
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Charlie Kirk
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Winton Hall
Oh, it's great honor to be here. Thank you so much.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, long time Breitbart, behind the scenes guy. And now you're kind of emerging. Why did you start with Code Red? This AI story, The left, the right, China and the race to control AI.
Winton Hall
Yeah, it's a great question. You know, I, I've enjoyed a long career in writing many, many, many books and this one I like. I needed to come out of the shadows because we don't have a lot of time and particularly for conservatives to get ready for the 5D political chess game that's about to emerge with this acceleration. I think President Trump and Vice President Vance are doing an exceptional job at the national level with their leadership. But I think at the grassroots, we have to understand that AI is not just a tool, it is political power. And that power is going to decide whether we indoctrinate or educate our kids. It's going to affect how we erase or create jobs. And obviously right now we're seeing in is in the Iran and Venezuela conflagrations. The way it's AI warfare is affecting the battlefield. So we've got to be ready. And I just don't think we are. You know, Elon Musk says a supersonic tsunami is what AI is heading at humanity. We've seen Dario Amade just recently say that we got 12 months to five years until half, half of white collar entry level jobs are wiped out. And we're hearing Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman say 18 to 12 months. So if you thought there was a tsunami offshore and you saw it from the beach and you said, I only have this limited amount of time. You do everything you can to try to get people as prepared as possible. And that's really why I took on Code Red with this one.
Andrew
Yeah, Winston, I think this is the sort of thing a lot of people are aware of AI, A lot of people are using it, they use it casually, they're seeing it and come into their work workplaces. But people I talk to who are really in the know, they'll say the biggest issue in America right now, the biggest issue in this admin right now, it's not Iran, it's not even immigration. One of the things they tell me the biggest question right now is is AI basically going to be woke? Is AI going to have left wing assumptions baked into it or not? And we saw a flare up of that with the fight over Anthropic, which a lot of people in D.C. were paying attention to, I don't know how much that penetrated the normal, the normie sphere, as it were. But can you explore that? Can you, can you break down how important that really is?
Winton Hall
Oh, it's such a brilliant and important question. So you have to understand that the anthropic folks are very deeply politically involved. First of all, their donations since 2020, $200 million to Democratic causes. Okay, so this is a highly, highly ideologically engaged group. The second thing is that when you look at the bias point that you brought out, the very first chapter of Code Red is on the hidden persuasion of AI. And right now, literally five minutes or so before I got on, we just put it up on Breitbart's lead story and it's breaking from Code Red, which is that Google Gemini has smeared seven GOP senators and Vice President Vance and Secretary Rubio as in violation of their quote, hate speech policies and yet zero Democrats. Now that's their Google Gemini AI. And so what I did in the, a lot of the. I spent two years investigating this book but even just recently looking at it, this is no question peer reviewed academic journal literature has concluded numerous times that leading LLMs, I.e. large language models are overwhelmingly biased toward a leftward direction. And I explained why and the training data and all the rest of it it we this is as good as it's ever going to get for right of center conservative people in terms of woke bias because they know the big tech companies know that you have the House, the Senate and the White House and they have huge regulatory override ability to affect their business. The minute that Democrats get into power, if and when that happens, the big tech elite are going to default to their skin and ban censorship, you know, blacklist and demonetized instincts that we saw under the Biden years. So this is, that's why I call it a Code Red moment. Two reasons. One, an alert, an alarm, and two, that our side of the ball, the conservative side, the red team politically has to have a code. We have to have a set of principles, we have to have a set of solutions. And that's why I really try to not just write a doomer screen, but really lay out what we can do on a personal level as well as the politics.
Andrew
Yeah, that's all remarkable and I'm, I'm thinking there, there's a writer, there's a blogger on Substack who has a series of posts that I'm sure you're familiar with arctotherium and he had a whole breakdown where he's asking each of the AIs, he's giving them a bunch of resumes and then asking these AIs who would you hire? And without telling them to do this, without instructing them to do this, the AIs are naturally, for example, engaging in racial discrimination. Like they'll discriminate against white America, against white people, or against men, against straight people. Because that is just what's going into the pot on these AIs is all of the discrimination, all the woke stuff we've had and people don't even know about this. And if you're just asking an AI to do this for you, if you could say, oh AI, hire 50 engineers for me, it's gonna do that. Even if you are, you might not even be thinking about it.
Winton Hall
That is exactly right. And the bias is baked in, as you rightly point out. And the corpor of most modern LLM enterprise level chatbots, AI, you're talking about a couple of bases of information. One, Wikipedia, which we know is far left and is constantly smearing conservatives and then locking their pages so that they're not allowed to edit and correct them. Number two is Reddit, which leans left. The three is peer reviewed academia, which obviously we know about university bias and the problems we have in education. Obviously Charlie fought against, against that better than anybody. And the other thing of course is something called the Common crawl, which is the open, open Internet, a huge data set there. The final thing though is that they have these very lucrative deals with left of center publishers. There are only a few people that are in the center that have these kind of deals. And think about this. If I give you $50 million to buy the archives of let's say the New York York Times or the LA Times or Time magazine or the Nation or the Atlantic, that does two things, right? One, it's a subsidy to a left leaning outlet to be able to stay in business and make payroll. But the other thing it does is it bakes in all those years and years and years of bias left leaning reporting by those organizations into the training data. So it's garbage in, garbage out. And that that feedback loop, that self reinforcement feedback loop becomes very, very toxic for just getting straight factual information. And so one of the things I do in code Red is I literally lay out all the contracts. Here's the money flow, just old style, you know, follow the money kind of journalism and let people just know the kind of bias and how big of money is flowing between these companies and the four left left builders.
Andrew
So Winston, another thing that we're getting, we get emails sometimes. I know this is popping up more on the right is this hostility towards data centers, hostility towards some of the infrastructure that goes into AI. So you having analyzed it, what do you think the right posture of conservatives should be towards AI? Like, it feels to me like it's probably a doomed venture to just say, oh, let's push back on the development of it. It seems more important that we need to control and influence and make sure it does not go in that disastrous direction. And so you've got about a minute and a half if you can answer that. And like, what, what should the administration be doing to bring AI to heal, so to speak.
Winton Hall
That's one of the more positive recent developments. President Trump and Vice President Vance did an amazing job with the ratepayer protection pledge. Which what they did was they sat down with the heads of all of these large AI and tech builders and hyperscalers and they said, look, we do not want working class communities to have to foot the bill for higher energy prices in the form of their electric bills, their water bills, just because you want to build some giant data center in their backyard. That's exactly the right posture. And not only will this pledge that President Trump brokered, not only will it make those big tech behemoths pay for upgrading those infrastructure pieces and the electric overflows, it will actually potentially lower the costs of local communities water bills and electric bills because they're going to do a lot of modernization of their rickety grids. And so I think that's the kind of proactive leadership we need. Which is exactly what you said, which is, look, AI is a reality. 99% of us use it, even though 64% of us don't even realize sometimes when we're using it because it's baked into our weather apps and other devices. But I think if we can get ahead of those landmines and avert them, we're going to be able to hopefully navigate our way through one of the biggest and most disruptive, fast moving technological innovations we've ever encountered.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, well, I'm sitting here terrified at the first thing you said. Wynton, if you can stay with us about all the loss of jobs and the timeline that we're looking at there. If you could stay another segment, I'd love to ask you more about that. Uh, we'll, we'll work with your, we'll work with your team in the back, back end. So really quick, I wanna tell you about StrongCell. StrongCell is an amazing Supplement that powers your cells. For whatever reason, when Charlie would travel around, everybody wanted to know about strong cell. Does it really work? Does it really work? Give it four to six weeks. And I'm telling you, you're gonna know a difference. Word recall, brain fog, chronic fatigue. If you're struggling with any of these things, give strong cell a chance. Four to six weeks. Weeks. It's a amazing proprietary delivery of what's called nadh which powers your mitochondria in your cells. It's the power center for your body, your cells. Check it out. Four to six weeks. These are amazing patriots out of Texas that developed this technology. And it's amazing. So wewe tried here on the Charlie Cook show. We don't just try it. I take it. But I didn't bring it with me on this trip. Blake's holding it down though. Blake's on the regimen. He's keeping up with it. It strongcell.com it now has a 90 day, 90 day risk free money back guarantee. Give it four to six weeks. I'm telling you, you're going to know. Notice the difference. Use promo code Charlie at checkout for 20 off strongcell.com promo code Charlie. We'll be right back. All right, welcome. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to tell you about why refi. Our friends over at why refi are American patriots that wake up every morning and they want to help students that find themselves in a mountain of private student loan debt. It's not good. The college cabal has taken advantage of too many students out there that study things that don't matter for jobs that don't exist. And even more are not going to exist after the AI revolution that we're talking about with Wynton here. So if you find yourself in a situation where you cannot make your private student loan payments, you need to contact the folks at y refi. Why refi.com and if you know somebody that's in this situation. So if you're a parent watching and your your son or daughter is struggling with a mountain of private student loan debt, call them, check them out. This is what they do. They wake up every day to help students refinance their debt so that they can start the American dream sooner. Family formation, buying a home, all these things that are part of the American dream. The college cabal has destroyed that for far too many people. So check out why refi.com or call them today. 888y refi34 and find out if they can help you. If you visit their website, they even have before and after of how much money people saved and what their minimum payment was before and after working with Wirefi. Great people, great patriots. Check them out. Y refi dot com. All right, Winton, you freaked me out right at the beginning. And Blake kind of stepped in for me there. And so. So you're saying we've got what, 18 months till, like, you know, the job apocalypse comes?
Winton Hall
Well, I hate to figure out even more, Andre. Actually, there are some estimates it's as few as 12 months. But here's the reality, okay? And we all have to understand this 5D chess game that's being played here. And I walked through and Code Red, the whole economic chapter here. You have forces all the way from Elon Musk to Dario Amade at Anthropic to Mustafa Suleiman at Microsoft AI, and they are all giving you these very, very dire job apocalypse wipeouts. They're doing that because of something called agentic AI. What is that? It's AI that actually can do the work. This is not what most people are used to. A chatbot. It's an AI agent. It can take real action. It can open up a browser, can open up a bank account, and it can do that autonomously over a task threshold that is accelerating very, very quickly.
Charlie Kirk
Okay?
Winton Hall
And it's scaling the white collar job. Cognitive work work, not moving atoms in the world, blue collar work. Ironically, those folks are less at risk of automation. The real, the real question is this. Are they bluffing to raise capital to say, hey, we're creating this labor replacing technology. It's going to be the trillion dollar opportunity. Are they doing it to. To raise capital? Are they, number two, just ideologically driven to want to scare people toward universal basic income and wealth redistribution? Or number three, are they just GENU worried about human civilization and they're just trying to alert everybody? I think the reality is that there really is going to be real major job disruption. Doesn't mean that you're going to necessarily lose your job. But what Jensen Huang at Nvidia has said for a long time, you won't lose your job to AI. You'll lose your job to someone who has mastered and knows how to use a I. A lot of people hear that though, and they go, that still sounds like I'm losing my job job. So what is the best way to be prepared? Number one, I think that you should future proof yourself and understand your industry's use of the technology. Number two, if you have parent, if you're a parent or A grandparent. You have absolutely got to understand the implications of AI and the risks to eroding critical thinking, cognitive offloading, certainly the AI companions and AI girlfriend, physical risks. But the best thing you can do is this. The future is not going to be about teaching our children to find jobs. It's going to be teaching our children to create jobs. And what do I mean by that? I mean entrepreneurship. So if we build the Trivium, the classics of education that Charlie and others have educated for so well, you know, logic, grammar and rhetoric, number two, we then give them the tools of entrepreneurship to understand how to create opportunity, create a small business, and then third, and finally, keep them abreast of AI. You've really built a little bit of a moat to the degree that you're going to be able to around your child or your grandchild so that they're going to be able to navigate this. I had somebody yesterday who has a middle school child, and they said, what do I even tell my child to major in in college if they're going to college? And that's the problem here. This train is moving at warp speed. And so the answer is, no one knows the answer to that in six years. And so the best thing you can do, prepare them to be able to create a job, not to just have to fill out a resume.
Charlie Kirk
Winton hall, author of the new book Code Red, a really important offering. You've. I mean, listen, we've talked about AI on the show for years now, and I think this is. You've. You've given one of the most concise and compelling presentations of this. Everybody check out Code Red. Winton hall, with our friends over at Breitbart, doing great work. Congratulations. And, you know, future proofing is now going to be in my lexicon, so. Thank you, sir.
Winton Hall
Well, thank you. And thank you for what you do and for what you do to keep Charlie's legacy alive. We're so grateful for it.
Charlie Kirk
Thank you, Wynton. God bless you, man. We'll talk to you soon. All right, Blake, we've got a lot of emails. You guys been emailing like a storm today.
Andrew
Yeah, we asked for emails about the Kent thing and about the South Carolina race. A lot are pouring in, so I want. I thought we could take a few minutes to read a few of them. This is one. I think it's pretty good. This is Lucas talking about Kent. He says, I would like to hear Kent justify how allowing an Islamic death cult to become an imminent threat with nuclear material is a good idea. And he says, Later, Trump has my full support. If this action exceeds three months, I'll be pissed. Two months, rather annoyed. One month disappointed, but not surprised. The most unfortunate part of the whole thing is now that Kent resigned with a stupid, selfish letter, the media and libtards in Congress will run with it and fill the media cycle with this story. And I think. I think that's the attitude of a lot of people that even if they're skeptical of the war, especially if it goes long, they also trust the president and they're mad that someone in our own coalition is sort of doing this big stunt that seems to damage the administration. We got a lot of emails about Dan's versus Lynch. David says lean slightly for Dan's but would be happy with lynch, if not anyone but Lindsay. Coming from a lifelong Republican, Kara said Dan's came across as rough and easily rattled. But if he becomes more polished and succinct, otherwise, I have no preference right now. Do you have any favorites on your end?
Charlie Kirk
Andrew Patrick says Mark lynch has Christian family values. Honor and sacredness, living sacraments, you know, so there's a lot of emails that you guys are sending off that seem to resonate with Mark Lynch's. Just his presentation. He said he does. See, he did seem a little bit more polished, a little more put together. Obviously he's a successful businessman, has. That has that sort of pedigree. So a lot of that that I'm seeing, I just think it's. It's tough because they're. I mean, I think genuinely they're both would be great candidates. I tend to lean towards Dan's. I think they're both great, just to be clear.
Andrew
And I think the most important thing, because people are saying, you know, someone says, Chris says the problem in South Carolina is two or three go against Limpsy Lympsey is what he calls him. And then the pool is diluted and he comes out with the majority. We should have one candidate before. I don't know that's necessarily the case. I think he needs 50%. If you get them below 50%, you go to a runoff. I think the important thing is we don't. We can't have these two candidates hate each other. They should pledge right now that they'll be supporting the other over Lindsey when this goes to a runoff. I think that's the most important thing
Charlie Kirk
needs to go to a runoff. And my last pitch for Dan's. He's just younger and I hate to say it, but we want somebody in office that's going to have a nice Runway here for many years to come. All right, we'll see you guys tomorrow. More in the Charlie Kirk show, then take care of.
This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show—broadcast remotely and held down in Phoenix—focuses on a flurry of headline events: the dramatic resignation of Joe Kent from the Trump administration over the war in Iran, the intensifying debate over immigration and voter ID, the Save America Act battle in the Senate, and the perceived threats from radical Islam in the U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville joins for a heated conversation on American identity, Islam, and election integrity. The episode closes with a discussion of the disruptive rise of AI and conservative strategies to respond, featuring author Winton Hall.
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Listener emails reflect a split on Kent—some calling him a fickle opportunist damaging the coalition, others say more resignations are needed to protest the war.
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The episode’s tone is urgent, combative, and unapologetically partisan with frequent culture war rhetoric and direct attacks on political enemies. The language is pointed, with moments of provocative hyperbole, particularly in segments on Islam, immigration, and the left’s motivations—matching the passionate and sometimes incendiary style of the show.
This episode captures a movement grappling with internal dissent as the policy stakes escalate—foreign war, election integrity, immigration, and now the uncharted AI frontier. The show presents itself as a rallying point for proactive, hardline conservative activism amid both internal and external challenges—promoting unity, mobilization, and vigilance against perceived threats from both inside and outside the coalition.