The Charlie Kirk Show, March 23, 2026

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – March 23, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Charlie Kirk
Notable Guests: President Donald Trump (clips), Senator Bernie Moreno, Dr. Chase Spears, Harmeet Dhillon, Blake Neff, Jack Posobiec
Theme: Analysis and debate on recent political events, U.S.–Iran tensions, internal Republican controversy, DHS funding crisis, immigration disasters, election law, and the culture war.

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Episode Overview

On March 23, 2026, The Charlie Kirk Show delivers an incisive, fast-paced exploration of headline issues: U.S.-Iran negotiations and market volatility, the fallout from the Joe Kent "leak" controversy, the realities and politics of the protracted DHS shutdown, the tragic consequences of U.S. immigration policy, rumblings about the next presidential field, and the legal battle over Election Day integrity. Charlie Kirk, with co-host Blake Neff and a roundtable of guests, dissects mainstream narratives and rallies for American values.

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Key Segments & Highlights

1. Opening: From Markets to Middle East – Reactions to News and U.S.-Iran Crisis

Timestamps: 00:21–04:14, 05:25–18:32

• Pres. Trump on White House Loyalty & Leaks:
  Trump disparages a former staffer for disloyalty:

  “Being a nice guy doesn’t pay off too much.” (Trump, 00:28)

• Instant Market Response:
  The panel discusses the stock market’s wild swings in response to ceasefire rumors and Trump’s statements about blowing up Iranian infrastructure:

  “The Dow futures are up 800 at one point. They're up 1200… the market obviously, you know, wants to exhale, wants it to be over with.” (Kirk, 01:14)

• Iran Policy & Negotiations:
  Extended discussion of Trump’s hardline stance, the dance between “maximum toughness” and negotiation, and mixed signals from Iran:

  “We want no enrichment, but we also want the enriched uranium...it’s very easy. If we have a deal with them…It’s got to be a good deal. And it’s got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons.” (Trump, 02:00) "Trump, he's always ready to make a deal. But as part of his deal making, he's always presenting maximum toughness... On the flip side, we know that Iran is a regime full of zealots..." (Neff, 17:24)

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2. Joe Kent Leak Controversy & Internal Media Battles

Timestamps: 05:55–12:07

• What happened with Joe Kent?
  Discussion centers on the resignation of Joe Kent, viral accusations of leaking chat logs after Charlie Kirk’s murder, and Kirk’s own role in passing information for truth’s sake:

  “I did provide the group chat to Joe Kent… I was told I could trust Joe Kent. I provided the screen grabs to Joe Kent, and I don't know what happened to them at that point…Can I 100% categorically say that he leaked them? No…” (Kirk, 07:32, 09:48) “Whoever shared that screen grab publicly, it was an egregious breach and obviously we're not happy about it…” (Kirk, 10:05)

• Commitment to Truth:
  The show doubles down on not blocking any information to get the truth about Kirk’s death, even with conspiracy theories circulating.

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3. DHS Shutdown, Democrat Obstruction, and Funding Crisis

Timestamps: 12:18–13:54, 23:43–31:04

• TSA/ICE Misallocation & Political Dysfunction:
  Senator Bernie Moreno condemns Democrats' refusal to dock their own pay while DHS employees go unpaid; Democrats walk out without debate:

  “260,000 American families are without a paycheck…they're not willing to even hold their paycheck…they didn't even bother to show up for work.” (Moreno, 25:59) "Their goal is to hurt ordinary Americans so that Trump will give in." (Neff, 25:40)

• ICE Agents at Airports:
  ICE personnel sent to help at TSA lines aren’t doing immigration enforcement, raising Capitol Hill concerns about prioritization.
• Border Security & Political Hypocrisy:
  Moreno sharply distinguishes Republican and Democrat approaches, linking Border Patrol funding to problems created by Biden-era policy.
• Trump’s Strategy & Negotiations Stalemate:
  Discussion of possible concessions and legislative impasse:

  “I'm absolutely going to object to us adjourning. We should not leave Washington, D.C. until we fund DHS, whatever it takes.” (Moreno, 29:40)

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4. U.S.-Iran War – Ceasefire, Nuclear Dangers, and Market Moves

Timestamps: 13:09–22:13, 32:42–35:25

• Dow’s Positive Response:
  Big jumps in futures after Trump claims a 5-day ceasefire with Iran:

  “Dow futures shot up 1200 points as soon as he said that there was a five day ceasefire on infrastructure.” (Kirk, 13:28)

• Doubts and Cautions:
  Kirk and Neff debate the reality and risks of Iranian missile capability, possible escalation targeting nuclear sites, and the logic of Trump’s negotiating style.
• Moreno on Military Action & Caucus Unity:
  Moreno credits Trump’s military rebuilding, supports decisive action, and vows unity (“We absolutely are…”).

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5. Immigration, Policy Betrayals, and Tragedy

Timestamps: 45:50–53:43, 77:38–83:59

• Fallen Soldier Tribute:
  Dr. Chase Spears recounts learning of LTC Brandon Shaw’s death, highlights the betrayal felt by Global War on Terror veterans due to “empathy-based immigration and justice,” and criticizes early release of dangerous migrants:

  “They sent us for 20 years... so you won't have to fight them over here. Meanwhile, we had this empathetic immigration policy... we brought the threat home. As a global war on terrorism veteran, I consider it a high betrayal.” (Spears, 49:36, 50:03)

• Immigration Policy Blamed for Violence:
  Story of Sheridan Gorman, murdered by an illegal immigrant, cited as emblematic of the costs of current policies:

  “Another psycho, another criminal in the US murdered another innocent American. And this will not be the last story like this...” (Neff, 79:09–79:40)

• Democrats Accused of Prioritizing Illegals:
  Commentary frames Democrats as deliberately refusing to fund ICE/DHA to keep deportations low, facilitating further tragedies.

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6. Election Integrity: Supreme Court Battle over 'Election Day'

Timestamps: 64:36–75:58

• SCOTUS Case Analysis:
  Harmeet Dhillon describes the “Watson v. RNC” case, which challenges states counting ballots after Election Day:

  “Does election day mean the final day that states can receive these ballots is election Day?... Eight states don't even require a postmark...” (Dhillon, 64:45, 66:41) “We’re one of those places where we’re, I think, ignoring federal law...there has to be a general election. It has to be on election day.” (Dhillon, 66:46)

• Restoration of Trust:
  Panel stresses how prolonged ballot-counting damages public faith in the system and risks radicalization.
• Potential Ramifications:

  "There are 16 states that have this post election day ballot receipt... Those would all be inconsistent with federal law and struck down. And that's huge." (Dhillon, 74:05)

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7. Culture War & 2028 Presidential Field: "Oppression Olympics"

Timestamps: 38:02–44:37

• Axios Report on Dem Candidates’ Childhood Trauma:
  Neff and Kirk mock Democratic hopefuls who “lead with their trauma” instead of pride in their roots:

  "This is very telling because it's so Democrat of them...they want to bring you in...and tell you how awful their family members are." (Kirk, 40:19) "Their big pitch is, I'm just as messed up as you...We've come a long way." (Neff, 43:57)

• Notable Exception:
  Only Cory Booker, among candidates profiled, describes a loving upbringing.
• Comparison to Trump:
  Trump’s talk of supportive family serves as contrast to the "victimhood" Democratic style.

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8. Campus Free Speech Fights & Event Cancellations

Timestamps: 54:48–63:01

• "Pick Up the Mic" and Counter-Programming:
  Jack Posobiec and Blake Neff discuss their new campus event and a "bracketing" situation with the left-wing UNF America tour at ASU.

  “So they're acting like we had something to do with this, which is really irritating…both were not approved.” (Kirk & Posobiec, 56:01–57:26)

• Hostility from Campus Left:
  Left-wing activists "flip off" Charlie Kirk’s memorial at HQ, underpinning the antagonistic campus free speech environment.
• Carrying Charlie’s Legacy:
  Blake Neff reflects on preparing Charlie for debates and now stepping up to honor his mission:

  “Charlie was a guy who wanted to be in the arena because that was his mission... As we know, a murderer had to silence him for what he was going to say.” (Neff, 60:41)

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9. Closing Segment: More Tragedies Linked to “Systemic Failures”

Timestamps: 81:53–84:18

• Seattle Insanity Verdict:
  Another American family destroyed as a murderer is declared insane in a plea deal, inspiring accusations that “we are building our own funeral pyre as a country.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Trump on Iran:

  "We're not going to have more wars, no more nuclear weapons. They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff is no deal." (Trump, 02:00, 18:32)

• Sen. Bernie Moreno on DHS Shutdown:

  "This is probably the worst, darkest moment in the Senate since I've been there in the last 15 months. It is truly despicable." (Moreno, 26:42)

• Dr. Chase Spears' Lament:

  "America's sin of empathy based immigration and justice policy is a betrayal to all veterans." (Spears, 49:15)

• Kirk on Election Fraud:

  “If you don’t want us to think there’s election fraud, then stop doing a bunch of crazy stuff that, like, leads us to believe there could be election fraud. It’s very simple.” (Kirk, 71:22)

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Structure and Flow

• Sharp transitions:
  Segments move briskly from global affairs (Iran ceasefire/market volatility) to internal GOP transparency (Joe Kent leak), then back to domestic crises (DHS, immigration, election law, campus events).
• Panel banter:
  Direct language, urgent warnings, and a persistent call for accountability are leavened by moments of sarcasm and dark humor.
• Frequent references to Charlie Kirk’s murder:
  Both as a rallying cry and as a warning about the stakes in today’s political/cultural battles.
• Guest experts:
  Provide firsthand experience (Moreno, Spears), legal analysis (Dhillon), and campus activism perspectives (Posobiec).

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Takeaways

• The show frames itself as the “place for truth” and directness, repeatedly setting up contrasts with both mainstream media and left-leaning politicians.
• Deep frustration with Democratic immigration and election policies is interwoven with personal tragedy, highlighting the human costs the hosts see as resulting from those policies.
• Calls for unity and urgency abound, particularly around defense, truth-telling, and cultural engagement.
• Substantial time is spent on distrust of “system insiders” (from leakers to “RINO” senators to election officials) and skepticism of “compassionate” policies seen as dangerous.
• Throughout, the spirit is one of combative camaraderie, with guests and hosts alike evoking a sense of mission and shared struggle.

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This episode is emblematic of The Charlie Kirk Show's style: rapid-fire, unapologetically partisan, deeply skeptical of establishment narratives, and committed to vigorous debate and defense of traditional American values in a chaotic news environment.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Donald Trump]

Guaranteed Human.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now. You know what a joke. Hand was leaking.

[Donald Trump]

Look, I'm not a fan of the guy. He ran and for Congress. He lost. He ran for Congress again and he lost. I said, you know, he's a guy, nice guy. Seemed like a very nice guy. I said, you know, it's a shame. He ran for Congress twice. Call him up, give him a job in the White House. Smart. They gave him a job in the White House and this is what he does to me. You know, being a nice guy doesn't pay off too much.

[Charlie Kirk]

Instant reaction kind of tells you what you need to know. I was upstairs, you know, getting ready, taking notes. All right, on the screen, looks like

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

we were going to be down at

[Charlie Kirk]

least 1 percentage point, maybe more.

[Donald Trump]

All the men, major indices, oil pressing

[Charlie Kirk]

back up toward 98, 99, and broke

[Donald Trump]

a few notes, look back up. What the heck?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

It was like a surreal world, right?

[Charlie Kirk]

So you can see the Dow futures

[Donald Trump]

are up 800 at one point. They're up 1200.

[Charlie Kirk]

That was the instant knee jerk reaction. Like the market obviously, you know, wants to exhale, wants it to be over with. I consider the stock market right now sort of a coiled spring. It's compressed by artificial things like this. But you know, until it's resolved, it's,

[Donald Trump]

it's a major dark cloud.

[Charlie Kirk]

So looking for in these talks, Mr.

[Donald Trump]

President, we're looking for all of the things that we've been talking about. We want to see no nuclear bomb, no nuclear weapon, not even close to it, low key in the missiles. We want to see peace in the Middle East. We want the nuclear dust. We're going to want that. And I think we're going to get that. We've agreed to that. Yeah, we're going to, We've agreed to that.

[Charlie Kirk]

You want the enriched uranium before you can end this?

[Donald Trump]

We want no enrichment, but we also want the enriched uranium. Where if this happens, it's a great start for Iran to build itself back. And it's everything that we want. It's very easy. If we have a deal with them, we're going down and we'll take it ourselves. Tomorrow morning sometime their time, we were expected to blow up their largest electric generating plants that cost over $10 billion to build. It's a very good one. There was no dearth of money and one shot is gone. It collapses. Why would they want that? So they called. I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal and we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal. And it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons. They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff is no deal. Iran's foreign Ministry says you're not telling the truth when it comes to productive conversations to end the world going to have to get themselves better public relations people. We have had very, very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points of major points of agreement. I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. The communication, as you know, has been

[Charlie Kirk]

blown to pieces, have called out sick.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Many are unable to pay for their

[Charlie Kirk]

cars, gas, childcare or rent due to the shutdown. It's making it so they can't even afford to come to work right now, which, of course, they haven't been getting

[Harmeet Dhillon]

paid for for a month.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's why President Trump decided to send hundreds of ICE officers into the airports that are greatly impacted, like here in Atlanta.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Mayor Andre Dickens says those officers are

[Charlie Kirk]

meant to help with crowd control and line management. They are not supposed to conduct any immigration enforcement.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

I can't imagine having a job image for the third time in six months. You have to explain to your wife or husband or kids, I didn't get a paycheck today. And the kids looking at you going,

[Donald Trump]

well, what did you do?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

What did you do to not get a paycheck?

[Donald Trump]

Were you insubordinate?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Did you not show up for work? Do you yell at your boss? Nope. I did everything right other than work for the Department of Homeland Security. There's a concept that's important in creating a culture that says, as a leader, you must be willing to give a shared experience of your team. Now, I will contradict a little bit of what you said. Each of us in this chamber make $175,000 a year. That's not what the average American makes. That is dramatically more than the average American makes, and it's certainly a lot more than what the average TSA worker makes. Every day there's a battle for your

[Charlie Kirk]

mind raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Fear not, you found the place for truth.

[Charlie Kirk]

The voice of a generation that still

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Here we go.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is Monday, March 23, 2026, here at the Bitcoin.com studios. Good to be back in Phoenix.

[Blake Neff]

Welcome back. It's not just that you're back in Phoenix, it's that you have once again regained access to, you know what, to, oh, certain orange goo that will revitalize.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we're not there yet. We're not there yet. You gotta. You gotta. You know. It's true. Strong sell. I have.

[Blake Neff]

Everyone's thinking. Everyone's thinking about it.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. So, yeah, we've got a really full show, lots of guests coming up. I want to address something that emerged over the weekend, and really, it's kind of been a storyline, I guess, for the last week or so after the resignation of Joe Kent. So we touched on it a couple times last week. Obviously, it's consumed a lot of media. President Trump's being asked about it and whatnot. The central claim, though, that I wanna get to is, was Joe Kent leaking certain information. And over the weekend, a clip came up and it's gone a little bit viral. I want to address it. Let's go ahead and play it. Cut 16.

[Blake Neff]

The way that those screenshots got to Candace is via Joe Kent, Andrew Colvett. Andrew was in the chat group as well. He was one of the nine people in the group.

[Charlie Kirk]

And he admitted at first, be perfectly honest, at first he was denying it.

[Blake Neff]

We didn't know how Candace got them, but then he admitted on the air,

[Charlie Kirk]

on his show that he had given these text messages and he gave them to. He said that on the show that he gave them to someone in the government. He told us that. That he gave them to someone in the government. Joe Kent was someone that we.

[Blake Neff]

We knew that there was a relationship there between Charlie and Andrew and Joe.

[Charlie Kirk]

We knew that when Charlie would visit

[Blake Neff]

Washington, D.C. he would talk to Joe. We kind of verified that the messages had been given by Andrew to Joe

[Charlie Kirk]

Kent and that Joe Kent had been

[Blake Neff]

the one to pass them on to Candace.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so verified is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I do want to confirm what I can confirm, and that is that, yes, in the immediate aftermath, I did provide the group chat to Joe Kent. I. We don't throw around accusations recklessly here. We don't. There's a lot of people that do that online. We don't do that. We think that's keeping in the spirit of Charlie's spirit and the way we choose to do things is we try and be responsible. So, yes, in a spirit of looking at every lead, turning over every stone, we wanted everybody that needed to know to know anything that we knew, not just. I mean, and by the way, We've been accused of not being interested in the truth.

[Blake Neff]

And just to remind people what this is referring to, this is after Charlie's murder, there were text messages that from a private group chat that were made public and were used to, frankly, kick off the big conspiracy theory that we've run into over and over again, which is that Israel or the Jews had Charlie murdered.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. So which we do not believe. Which we do not believe. But we have been accused of trying to. Or we're not interested in the truth. The truth, the actual fact of the matter is that behind the scenes, we have given everything we know to give every single piece of information. This was one of them. I was told I could trust Joe Kent. I provided the screen grabs to Joe Kent, and I don't know what happened to them at that point. Okay. I just want to make that very clear. Eventually, Joe did message me and suggest that I make those screen grabs public. I declined because those were shared privately. I didn't want to be reckless with them in the public. There could be innocent people on that group chat that would then be harmed. So I declined. But then fast forward another week or two and they were made public. So that's what I know is that Joe suggested that they be made public. I declined. Then they were made public. Can I 100% categorically say that he leaked them? No, but those are the facts. Maybe somebody on his team, maybe they got passed around, maybe somebody else leaked them, but those are the facts of the matter, and that's what I know.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. And the reason we're bringing this up, obviously, with his departure from the administration, there's a lot of debate over what it means. People have been arguing, was he a leaker. Some people have suggested he might be a criminal, he should be indicted. We're not saying that, but this has come up and.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well. And my name's getting tossed around with this as if I did something untoward. No, I don't regret any of it. I regret that they were leaked. I was told that I could trust them. I told that it was. It was private and it would be guarded just to look into any possible leads. And by the way, we did that with a bunch of different things because we want the truth to come out. So we're not blocking anything. We don't even care if the answer is something that is really, really terrible. Okay? We want the truth. We want justice, and we believe that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. We believe that they got their guy. We have additional questions, but guess what? That it was an Egregious breach. Whoever shared that screen grab publicly, it was an egregious breach and obviously we're not happy about it, but can't put it back together again, can't put the pace back in the tube, as they say. And so again, I just want to be very clear. I don't know who ultimately shared that publicly, but the facts are Joe Kent was one of the people that had it. Very, very, very small group of people, maybe one of his team members, whatever. But he did suggest that it was shared publicly. We declined because Charlie had every opportunity to say publicly what he believed. He did not say that publicly. And so far be it from me to put words in his mouth, okay? That was something that was private, so we wanted to keep it private. And I think that's being in keeping with being a good friend, okay, is preserving somebody's trust in their privacy. So now everybody knows, yes, Joe Kent had it, yes, he did suggest leaking it. Can't prove that he was the one. But those are the facts. Cuz there's been a lot of noise made about this in the past. Whether, you know, in the, in the recent week about allegations of leaking and things like that. I got nothing. I don't know anything other than that piece of the, of the puzzle, okay? That's all I know. And I'm not going to recklessly tarnish somebody's reputation if I don't have all the facts. But now that my name's being brought up into it, I wanted to address it. Fair enough, fair enough. All right.

[Blake Neff]

Now, we prefer to keep our front towards the enemy, which is, as always, the left. They're up to a very large number of bad things in this country at all times.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, they are. Well, I mean, so the rest of the show we do have Senator Bernie Moreno, we're going to talk about DHS funding, tsa, lines of the airport. Also, the Democrats refusal to have their pay docked or delayed while 260,000 families aren't getting their paychecks. But also we are going to get into recent comments made by President Trump about a potential ceasefire. Now, President Trump has come out and said that he's been talking with the main guy who's not Khamenei. We don't know. He hasn't said who this person is, but he's talking to somebody in Iran. I don't know that anybody really knows who's in charge in Iran. So where he's. He says that we have a five day ceasefire, but not a total ceasefire. It's a Ceasefire against infrastructure. So that would be like energy oil that. You're laughing, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

I'm laughing because it's five days, you know, it means it'll get him to the next weekend.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And you know, there's this real thing he'd like to do anything, anything that could like make the markets dip. Do that on the weekend. You can then push your ceasefire options on Monday, Following Monday. Yeah, it's a certain dynamic that's very interesting to see.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, the Dow futures shot up 1200 points as soon as he said that there was a five day ceasefire on infrastructure. I mean, listen, you can work. It works. If it works, it works. Obviously, we're all hoping that this conflict gets wrapped up immediately, as soon as humanly possible. And so, listen, if it leads to that, I'm all for it. We want this thing over with. All right, it's time for Strong Cell. I'm back in this. I'm back in the saddle.

[Blake Neff]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake Neff]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Senator Bernie Moreno]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Donald Trump]

Iran's Foreign Ministry says you're not telling the truth when it comes to productive conversations. To end the world, they're going to have to get themselves better public relations people. We have had very, very talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points of, major points of agreement, I would say almost all points of agreement, perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. Communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They're unable to talk to each other. But we've had very strong talks. Mr. Witkoff and Mr. Kushner had them. They went, I would say, perfectly. I would say that if they carry through with that, it'll end that problem, that conflict. It'll end it very, very substantially.

[Blake Neff]

It's very funny to me because you realize we have both combatants in this conflict, have messaging strategies that do make it difficult to tell what's going on, because Trump, he's always ready to make a deal. But as part of his deal making, he's always presenting maximum toughness. So he's doing this, oh, we're negotiating also. I'm ready to blow up everything in Iran tomorrow if they don't give me what I want. And then on the flip side, we know that Iran is a regime full of zealots and radicals. So they've always had to present maximum hostility when we know that they're actually more accommodating. Remember last summer, they're all like, tomorrow is a day that will be remembered for a thousand years. And then they shoot a bottle rocket that blows up in the desert because they don't want to aggravate us anymore. And so that could easily be happening here where they are negotiating, but they have to deny it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so here he, he alludes to this. Basically his negotiating tactic was we're going to blow up all your infrastructure. Markets don't like that. Of course Iran doesn't like that. And this is what he believes. At least what he says out loud led to this five day pause on any infrastructure hits.

[Donald Trump]

Sat 10 tomorrow morning sometime their time we were expected to blow up their largest electric generating plants that cost over $10 billion to build. It's a very good one. There was no dearth of money and one shot, it's gone, it collapses. Why would they want that? So they called. I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal. And we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal and it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons. Weapons. They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff is no deal.

[Charlie Kirk]

So he gets pressed on the nuclear portion of this SOP 15. You said there's many points of agreement with Iran right now.

[Donald Trump]

What can you give us like 15 points? 15 points? Well, they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. That's number one. That's number one. Two and three, they will never have a nuclear weapon. Weapons. They've agreed to that.

[Blake Neff]

So I'm, I'm picturing him having a list of 15 and 1, 2 and 3 are all just Iran will never have a nuclear weapon like in a formal treaty.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I bet you're right. So I, I do want to just put a note of caution here. So I was talking with a bunch of folks that are pretty well versed in what's going on in Iran right now. There was a strike by Iranian missiles near a nuclear reactor in Israel. The thought was that this is a warning shot because listen, even if you get rid of the nukes in Iran and they create a nuclear fallout situation in Israel, that's bad and it's an escalation that nobody wants or at least any sane person doesn't want. So that's one thing you have to be just cautious of, that this thing can. This is why we've always warned about regime Change is why we've always been circumspect when it comes to foreign interventions in general, but especially in Iran, because this thing can get out of hand very, very, very quickly and we pray that doesn't happen. But that's, that's something we need to keep an eye on, is that that missile got through the Iron Dome, landed next to a nuclear site in Israel. Secondly, there are some indications and reason to believe that this could be true is that in the early days of this conflict Iran shot off a bunch of its 1990s like it's old stock and we were shooting off two to four million dollars missiles to go intercept those. And the thought is that they might have missiles now that are the good ones, the more advanced weapons that we're, we've, we burned through a lot of our defensive supply, those really expensive Patriot missiles. So the question is, is if that's true, that's obviously concerning that if they have very advanced missiles waiting to deploy once we've burned through our, our defensive stock, then that, that would be problematic. So this thing is by no means in the clear, but I would say any note, any hint, any indication of an actual legitimate cease fire is really good. Now I don't think this is a full ceasefire. He's saying we're not going to hit your, your infrastructure, we're not going to hit your energy infrastructure. But those are two things I wanted to caution the audience on. They could hit Israel's nuclear site. That would be very bad, very, very bad. And two, if it is true that they have advanced weaponry and missiles waiting to deploy, when they think that we've depleted our stock, then that would also be very bad. I don't know if you have anything,

[Blake Neff]

I mean, I'm just, you know, big picture. I know we've talked about how this war, we think it could have been sold a little better in advance and since it's broken out. But there are things that have happened that have, you know, really laid out what the reasoning was that went into this. One of them was over the weekend they shot a missile at Diego Garcia island, that small island in the Indian Ocean that is farther away. We thought it was far away enough that Iran could not hit it. And supposedly they had a cap on how far their missiles would go that fell short of that island. Suddenly they shot a missile that apparently would have hit the island if we didn't shoot it down. And so we know apparently Iran has weapons that were not public to the world, maybe not even public to us, and they're Suddenly deploying them. That's certainly an argument in favor of us taking action.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Listen, I think anybody who tells you Iran was not a threat, I just. You've got to understand that that's probably not true. Okay? Iran has been a threat. Basically every country in the world knows that Iran was a threat. And. But this thing can still spiral out of control, and we need to pray that it doesn't. Pray for a ceasefire. We'll be right back. Bernie Moreno joins us next.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

I wanted to know either you.

[Blake Neff]

On air and on fire for the preservation of our nation, the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

I can't imagine having a job in which for the third time in six months, you have to explain to your wife or husband or kids, I didn't get a paycheck today. And the kids looking at you going, well, what did you do? What did you do to not get a paycheck? Did you. Were you insubordinate? Did you not show up for work? Do you yell at your boss? Nope. I did everything right. Other than work for the Department of Homeland Security.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. That, of course, is Senator Bernie Moreno from the great state of Ohio. He's joining us now. Senator, welcome back to the show. You were at the very center of the floor fight in the Senate over DHS funding trying to get that agency refunded. Obviously, we're seeing pain across the country at these TSA lines. Tell us about your experience this weekend in the Senate.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, we obviously were exposing the hypocrisy of the Democrats, because what we've discovered through the negotiation process is what they ultimately really want is no more deportations. You know, they're very proud of the fact that they let millions of people into this country illegally over the Biden years, and they don't want to see us remove them. And this includes criminal aliens, murderers, rapists. You see the death of Americans as a result of these lunatics. And so what we also did is said, hey, since we're not paying 260,000 Homeland Security employees, we should withhold our own paychecks. Right. By the way, I think we should dock our pay. But I said, withhold, and then when it opens, we get the money back. The Democrats blocked it, didn't engage in debate. They literally can't even make this up. Said, I object and ran out of the room and didn't come back.

[Blake Neff]

That's unbelievable. And I guess the rational answer is, what's next? Is it so dark? To me, because it does appear that they've just made the calculation, we can damage America as much as we want. And Trump will give in on letting us damage America as much as we want. It's very sickening.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

It is beyond sickening. I mean, think about this. 260,000American families are without a paycheck right now because of the actions of depraved politicians. And they have no problem. The fact that they're getting paid 175 grand a year in guaranteed money. They're not willing to even hold their paycheck. They don't even want to be there. Over the weekend, nine Democrats left town and went to a posh fundraiser in California. I mean, you can't even make this stuff up. They didn't even bother to show up for work. And yet 260,000Americans who are showing up for work aren't getting paid for their own actions. And by the way, these are not people who set policy. These aren't the people who decided, hey, we should do A, B or C. You know who those people are? Ironically, the people in that chamber. We made it a crime to enter this country illegally. We made it a crime to overstay your visa. We actually created an agency that said, hey, if people have to be deported, it's up to you. You go get this criminal alien and deport them. And they're not paying those very people. I mean, this is probably the worst, darkest moment in the Senate since I've been there in the last 15 months. It is truly despicable.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, you think about it, Senator, it was easier to get through Joe Biden's border than it is to get through a TSA line now. So Democrats, the way that they do immigration, it's basically let everybody in at the border. Zero wait times there. 3 hours wait time at a domestic airport, it's really that sickening. And then you guys try and say, hey, let's pause our pay, let's dock our pay, but let's not dock it, let's just pause it. And they object to that motion, walk out of the room. They won't even stand up and have a debate. Total cowards. I think this is a really despicable moment. Now, President Trump has said that he's sending ICE agents to the airports to alleviate some of this congestion. Right now, we've seen images of some of these ICE agents already arriving. Listen, I love our ICE agents, but this does seem like less than ideal. What's the reaction on Capitol Hill to this move from the President?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, there's concern that the ICE agents aren't out there enforcing immigration laws. And look, we just have to get this thing funded. Let me just point out one piece that's been missing. And it shows you the difference between Republicans and Democrats that, quite frankly, we need to fix. During the Biden years, they let tens of millions of people cross our border with no vetting. In fact, the opposite of vetting. We just said, welcome, here's free clothes, here's a free airline ticket, here's a free phone, here's a free hotel room. It was like basically these people hit the lottery. Right? Republicans did not object to funding Border Patrol when objectively, under any measure, Border Patrol wasn't doing their job because their bosses were telling them to basically ignore immigration law. And here we are, flash forward. Border Patrol is doing an amazing job. They're not letting a single solitary legal come in this country. ICE is deporting the worst of the worst out of this country. And what is the Democrats response to not pay them their paychecks? It's pretty.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Senator. Do we still have the senator sound like he cut off there for a second?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

No, I'm here, I'm.

[Charlie Kirk]

Here you go. So President Trump put out a truth, basically saying he's loathe to make a deal, any concessions with Democrats, but he's willing to give them this $5 billion cut off of ICE funding if they'll pass the Save America Act. I think we all know that they're not going to take this, but has there been any movement? Is there any signs that this impasse is going to be corrected?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, I'm going to do everything in my personal, individual power to get DHS funded, get these people's paychecks done. So I'm obviously going to spend the rest of the day today, the rest of the week, if it means not being a home for the Easter recess. I'm absolutely going to object to us adjourning. We should not leave Washington, D.C. until we fund DHS, whatever it takes. Look, the president's the greatest dealmaker of all time. He made a brilliant move last summer by fully funding ICE and Border Patrol through the entirety of his presidency. So I think the contours of a deal exist. We just need to get some rational Democrats to the table, make a deal, stop hurting Americans. How about that? How about if we just make that the guidepost, Stop hurting working Americans who are doing their job.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Are there other possible

[Blake Neff]

schemes that could come into play if there continues. If they continue to stonewall on this, the one that comes to mind, obviously they're banking on Three, four hour TSA lines making people revolt. But, for example, it's very. We actually know, in fact, it's very difficult to bring any sort of bomb on an airplane outside of your suitcase. So could we just basically say you only need to scan 20% of people who are getting on the plane? Or could the President order something like that? Or is that not a risk worth taking?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

It's not a risk worth taking out. It's much more than just TSA that's being funded. This is customs. They inspect packages, Border patrol, the agents that are truly putting their lives at risk. This is a cybersecurity agency. This is fema. This is Secret Service. This is our Nuclear Threat Assessment Agency, our federal Law Enforcement Training centers. I mean, you just go on and on and on. Investment, by the way, these are the people that are chasing transnational gangs. So this is the department that was created after 9, 11 to keep the homeland safe. I just need your viewers to understand that we have put America at grave, grave risk over political gains. This is what must end. And I'm calling on Democrats. Look, we can have policy disputes, but we're not gonna have policy disputes while putting the American people in danger. That's a gross negligence of duty. I'll go back to the pay issue. We should not get paid while this is going on. And by the way, the reason they ran out of the chamber is because they didn't want the C SPAN cameras to capture who was objecting. So they literally said, I object, and then ran out of the chamber like a little child because they didn't want the C SPAN cameras to capture the objector on film. It's pretty, pretty bad. I mean, this is. And if we had an honest media, by the way, there'd be. It's total cowardice. They'd have a reporter swarming that senator going, why'd you do that? Like, why would you object? Why would you get paid 175 grand guaranteed money while TSA agents who make 50, 60 grand aren't getting paid? But of course, we don't have an honest media. And that's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, of course, obviously. And you know, Senator, I want to just quickly pivot here. In the last two minutes we have with you, here's President Trump on new talks that he announced that he's been having with Iran. Iran's leadership, whoever those people are.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

SOP5, Iran's Foreign Ministry says you're not

[Donald Trump]

telling the truth when it comes to productive conversations. To end the world, they're going to have to get themselves better Public relations people. We have had very, very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points, major points of agreement, I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. The communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They're unable to talk to each other. But we' had very strong talks. Mr. Witkoff and Mr. Kushner had them. They went, I would say, perfectly. I would say that if they carry through with that, it'll end that, that problem, that conflict, and I think it'll end it very, very substantially.

[Charlie Kirk]

So he has said that there's going to be a five day ceasefire on any infrastructure or energy. The markets love this. It shot the Dow future shot up to 1200. Immediately upon that, that, upon that statement. Senator Moreno, what do you make of the status of the war in Iran right now?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, we had to go in. This is 47 years of bad behavior. We could not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. We have basically obliterated their navy, their air force, their ballistic missiles program is almost completely wiped out. Their ability to wreak havoc and damage America or hurt Americans is almost over. I think it's at the end of the day, President Trump, by rebuilding the military in his first term, by allowing the generals, the real generals, to do their job in the second term, has shown the capabilities of the American military, unlike at any time in history. And I pray every day for the security of our soldiers that are in harm's way and pray for a very, very quick ending to this conflict. And hopefully President Trump, God willing, gets it done. And I think he will.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fifteen seconds here, Senator. Is the caucus united in support of the President's war efforts?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

We absolutely are. We know this was something that had to be done. Even those of us like me, who obviously do not want us engaged in conflicts all over the world, it was something that was necessary, but if it's quick, if it's decisive, we get out of there. And I know that's what President Trump wants to do. So, fully supportive of his efforts, fully supportive of our military, and thank God every day that we have people like our brave soldiers that are willing to put their lives at risk.

[Charlie Kirk]

Senator Bernie Moreno, not a war hawk here, fully supportive of the efforts here. Thank you, Senator. I know you squeezed us in today. Thank you for the time. We'll talk to you again soon.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Thank you, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake Neff]

It's just, it's weaponized government breakdown. As, as I mentioned with him, it's, it's really dark what they're doing because Democrats have made the calculation that if they mess things up as much as possible in the country, just hurt, hurt ordinary Americans, Trump will give in to what they want. And what they want is not a better military. What they want is not more law enforcement. What they want is more illegals invading the country and fewer criminals going back to where they came from.

[Charlie Kirk]

So Jesse Kelly had a great tweet. He said Democrats have created three hour wait times at the airport because they don't want illegal aliens deported. Deported. That's your messaging. Put it on repeat. I completely agree. So let me repeat it again. Democrats have created three hour wait times at the airport because they don't want illegal aliens deported. They care more about foreigners living illegally in this country than they do about Americans who have every right to have their airports function properly. But you don't get that. You don't get nice things because they want foreigners to invade this country. I hope that's very clear right now. Know that's the bottom line.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it is.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. So, yeah. Well, I want to talk about. Blake had this great story out of Axio. So we have to get to it. So I want to make time for it. The Democrat presidential candidates are a bunch of cluster B narcissists.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, yeah. Basically. So this was, this came out late in the evening yesterday. So it's basically today's story. This is Axios Dems eyeing White House lean into their childhood traumas this is so and so basically, if you look at President Trump is such a classic politician in a lot of ways. So when President Trump talks about his family, he's like, oh, my father was a great man, a great businessman. I learned from him. You know, I learned a lot from my other family members. And like, even, you know, he talks of his brother, even though his brother actually died of alcoholism, he still loves his brother. All that shines through. And instead, it's. This is the first line. Potential 2028 Democrat presidential candidates are introducing themselves to voters in a striking way by documenting their childhood resentments, family chaos, and fights with their parents. And what stands out to me about all of these, by the way, is they talk about three different candidates. And all three of them, I think this matters a lot. All three of them are white guys. And so Josh Shapiro, in his recent book, Where We Keep the Light, Shapiro writes that he had a happy childhood, but at points an unhappy childhood home. And then it continues that he says

[Charlie Kirk]

his mother Judy could be unstable and that he and his siblings believe that, quote, if we were good, we could stop the chaos and the yelling.

[Blake Neff]

What? And then JD Prickster has talks about Gavin Newsom Pritzker. Gavin Newsom is even more candid in his at times fraught relationship with both parents, who he says left him caught between two worlds and fully accepted by neither. He really leans into this dyslexia thing that he's now used to pick a fight with the president. And he even says, this is crazy. He recalls being absent at times during his mother's final struggle with cancer until she left him a voicemail in 2002 telling him that he wanted. That if he wanted to see her, he had to do so before Thursday, because that's going to be my last day on Earth. She had arranged for assisted suicide. At that point, Newsom realized he had been been hiding from her and hiding from myself because he did not want to face her dying. And so he and his sister then, or he and Hillary, I'm not sure if that's his sister or spouse, but joined their mother on her. Yeah, their mother, his sister on her final day. And that's his pitch. That's the memoir that he would want

[Charlie Kirk]

potential voters who is a. An heir to the Hyatt fortune, says that, that he actually has some legitimate gripes. Cause his dad died of a heart attack, surprise, surprise, when he was seven. And then his mom died of alcoholism when he was a teenager. So, okay. But then he inherits millions, maybe billions of dollars, and we're still supposed to relate to his struggles. I think this is very telling because it's so Democrat of them, where they're put in the front, their traumas, their struggles. They want to be just like you, the average person, the average Joe out there on the street. And so instead of lifting up, as Trump does, the fact that he had this wonderful loving family that he's very proud of, they want to bring you in, into the, you know, break the fourth wall, as it were, of the family and tell you how awful their family members are.

[Blake Neff]

And I think it's another thing. It's that oppression Olympics. It's oppression Olympics. The Democrats have kind of built their entire new ideology. It is a resentment based ideology, a victimhood ideology. And they're very aware if you're a white male, you're at the absolute bottom of their priority stack. So if you are black or a woman or gay, you kind of just, you can raise up and you're running, hey, I'm this oppressed group. They don't have anything. So they just have to say, I'm messed up just like a bunch of you. And we also know, as we would talk about on this show, we have had this bifurcation in American life politically in terms of basically how, how mentally unwell you are. They're much, Democrat voters are much more likely to say that they have a diagnosed mental illness, that they are depressed, anxious, they, they honestly, I think a lot of them probably aren't. And they say it because they want that status.

[Charlie Kirk]

You saw this with this is part of what fueled the trans contagion is that kids want the attention. They want to be different, they don't want to be. What do we call it? Heteronormative.

[Blake Neff]

Heteronormative.

[Charlie Kirk]

They don't want to be. They want to have something that they can complain about online. They want to have a disorder, they want to have a dysfunction, they want to have an anxiety, which is a really sick thing that has been implanted into the public psyche. Ironically, at the very bottom of this Axios article, and this is why it was important you brought up, these were three white Democrat men. The one that stands out that could be a potential 2028 candidate for president is New Jersey Senator Cory Booker, who

[Blake Neff]

describes a far warmer childhood.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's a black man. So the only one, one of the four highlighted in this Axios article that doesn't complain about his childhood is the black man. You know, it's take of that what you will, but he dedicates, he could

[Blake Neff]

be a Coincidence, but it stands out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. He dedicates in his upcoming book, stand, to his mother writing, thank you, mom, for giving me a lifetime of transcendent love. I stand because you and dad so love me. Good for him to be honest. Like, like, way to show up. Pritzker, who's, you know, Charlie always affectionately referred to as a guy who was born on Third and thought he hit a triple. You know, he called him a Nepo baby, that he would never run for president because he can't run. I mean, Charlie had a lot of good. Charlie had a special place in his heart for the Pritzker family because he's a Chicagoan. So he grew up around these people ruining his state and hated them, actually loathed them, what they did to his state. And you've got Pritzker, you've got. Who are the other three? You've got Gavin Newsom, and you got Josh Shapiro all complaining and yet Cory Booker coming up, coming up, rounding out the floor, saying he had a great childhood.

[Blake Neff]

It's just really remarkable. And it's bleak because I don't think it foretells good things for your society when your top leaders, their big pitch is, I'm just as messed up as you. Like, we've come a long way. It used to be at least, least you'd have politicians would affect a humble background, even if, okay, you're George W. Bush. You grew up, you know, with this, like, elite WASP family. But actually, I'm a folksy Texan just like you. We've gotten used to that. That's part of American life. But now it's like, could you imagine George W. Bush going up and he's like. And by the way, like, yeah, my dad was abusive and terrible. It'd be messed up. But now that is the society we've chosen.

[Charlie Kirk]

So we're Lieutenant at Colonel Shaw, who was killed in a terrorist attack. We have his friend coming up at the top of the next hour. We're going to talk about that story. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome Back to hour two of the Charlie Kirk show here at the Bitcoin.com Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Excited to welcome our next guest because he's got a personal connection that I think is important to highlight to Lt. Col. Brandon Shaw, who was killed in a terrorist attack just, I believe, two weeks ago now. And I want to hear his story. This is Dr. Chase Spears. He's a US army major, retired. You can find him at DrChase Spears on X. And he's the host of the Finding youg Spine podcast. Welcome to the show, Dr. Chase Spears.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

Andrew, it's great to be with you. Thanks so much for the invitation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely honored to have you. You knew Lt. Col. Shah and you wrote a very touching tribute to him when you realized the news that he had been killed. Tell us what your first reaction was and also how you knew him.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

Yeah, I was actually at a conference. I was up at Omaha attending an annual conference. The ciceronean Society. It's a group of Christian scholars and thinkers who get together once a year to fellowship. And it was Thursday evening. We were sitting at a dinner, and I happened to glance out my phone and I saw that very picture that you're showing on the screen right now. And I immediately recognized that that's Brandon Shaw. He was my classmate at the U.S. army's Command and General Staff College from 2018 through 2019. That's a course that roughly half of the majors in the army get sent to up at Fort Leavenworth. And so we were both just really privileged to be able to attend that. And Brandon was more than just a classmate. He was the section leader. And it was a no brainer when I observed him in that leadership position. We weren't close. In cgsc, there are some people you get closer to than others. So I want to be open and honest. You know, we weren't tight, but he was someone who led our section incredibly well. It was a no brainer that he was chosen, that he was someone who believed in excellence. He fully embraced the profession of arms. He wanted to be a better soldier himself. He wanted us to be better soldiers. He wanted to get as much out of the course as he could, and he wanted us to get as much out of the course as we could. And so it's been quite some time since we talked, but you never forget the people you train with. And you're showing, of course, the. The section photo right now. And we go across the army, and Brandon wasn't big into social media, but we knew whoever he was, he was going to be doing great things, inspiring people. And Thursday night, I sit there and I happened to glance at my phone in that dinner and I see his photo. And my first thought was, well, Brandon's not a. He's not an ex at all. I wonder what's going on with him. And before I could even finish that thought, I saw the writing. The victim of the terrorist attack has been identified as Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw. Andrew, my. My heart raced. I was in. I can't Even describe what state I was in. Some might say it was shock, but my heart was in my throat. And I remember just sitting there reading it over and over and over again. And I'd known that there had been an attack earlier in the day. But to see this picture and to know that this man that I had had the privilege of serving with for an 11 month period at the Command and General Staff College, that he was the one who was fallen, it hit in an entirely different way. And I remember my wife looking at me, she could see something was very, very wrong. And she looked at me and said, are you okay? And I just admitted, I said, no, no, I'm not okay. And I had to get up. I went and found a friend and I said, I need you to go walk with me. And that began a process of just kind of mourning and thinking and struggling through that I'm still going through right now. You know, it was a small, small, small fractional percentage of what his family is going through. But he, but he touched a lot of lives across the army and mine was one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, Dr. Spears, I want to highlight something you wrote. You said at the bottom of your letter reacting to his death. You said, the truth is America's sin of empathy based immigration and justice policy is a betrayal to all veterans. You go on. But, but please build out that thought because I think a lot of us relate to it.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

I feel this so deeply, Andrew. And I've written on this in other forums about what I call the passive betrayal of our global war on terrorism veterans. I served for 20 years. Brandon had served longer than I had. He was approaching retirement himself. I retired roughly two years ago and he was almost there himself, looking forward to a great life, a well deserved rest and spending time with his family and moving on to the next chapter.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Chapter.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

And I think back to the fact that they sent us for 20 years, Andrew, for 20 years. It was the Bush doctrine, the neocon doctrine of you fight them over there so you won't have to fight them over here. You leave your families and your loved ones and your lives and you go fight them over there because that's the trade off we make. You won't have to fight them over here. And that's why I told myself time and time again, miss birthday after miss birthday after miss anniversary, after years of m time with my sons growing up with me being deployed or in training for deployment. And meanwhile we had this empathetic immigration policy that was based in we must have empathy for these people. We must let them in and we, and we have a justice system that must let people off early. This terrorist who shot Brandon rightfully was supposed to be in bars through 2029. What happened? He got off early. A loophole, an empathy based application of justice that prioritized his feelings and his life circumstance over the reality of the criminal and terrorist sympathizer that he was who immigrated to this nation. He came from Sierra Leone. Did he belong here? Of course he didn't. And it's not the first time. We had the shooting in D.C. similar thing. This was a terrorist brought over from Afghanistan. We fought them over there and then we ship loaded them right here. We brought the threat home. And Andrew is a global war on terrorism veteran. I consider it a high betrayal. It's something I've got a really big chip on my shoulder about

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake.

[Blake Neff]

I mean, I just, I don't know that I could put it better than him. It's that we basically the billion, the trillions of dollars we spent, the thousands of lives we lost on missions, on missions abroad where not only did they frankly I think end in failure, but I don't even know that success was possible because they refused to define any real victory. They were just open ended commitments. They went to middle America and they said, step up, go abroad, we need you. By the way, we don't know how this will end in victory. A lot of us in D.C. are making a lot of money off of this because we have consultancy and think tanks. No skin in the game for us. And then the final betrayal and climax of it is we'll feel better if we take all of the problems we created abroad and we're going to bring them here. And again, we're not going to take the harms onto ourselves. We're going to settle them in your towns. We're going to make you pay all the externalities for the bad decisions we make and this just drives it home. But there's tragedies like this that are happening every day. Not all of them are veterans. Some of them are just innocent people who are killed by these migrants and then or ruined public schools, ruined neighborhoods.

[Charlie Kirk]

Final 45 seconds to you, Dr. Spears. What's your message to politicians when it comes to even legal immigration?

[Dr. Chase Spears]

Ted Cruz said that his philosophy on immigration is very simple, that legal is good, illegal is bad. Andrew, I can't disagree more. The good kind of immigration is the kind that brings the right people here who want to assimilate, who want to be productive Americans, who want to abide, guide by our ways of life and who want to perpetuate that. And there are a lot of people who have come in legally who have no business here, who shared nothing in the American values. That's bad. That's bad immigration policy, and it's bad justice policy to let them out over and over again. Brandon should be with us today. But, you know, one good thing is we know his faith, and we don't mourn as those who have no hope. And so there is. There's the one constellation that we have have.

[Charlie Kirk]

Amen. Dr. Chase Spears. Thank you for joining us and for a tribute to your friend and your fallen comrade there. And we. We mourn his death, but we know that he. He is a Christian, and he's with the Lord now. God bless you, sir. Thank you for that. Really touching, genuinely.

[Blake Neff]

Amen.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

God bless you, gentlemen. Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Donald Trump]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. We have Jack Posic in the studio. You're in Phoenix. Welcome to Phoenix.

[Jack Posic]

Always good to be here in. In the man studio.

[Charlie Kirk]

It. It is. It's great to have you. And we wanted to do a quick segment on this because you. Why are you in Phoenix, Jack?

[Jack Posic]

I am in Phoenix because I am holding an event tonight. Not sure how we're branding it because we've had some. We've gone back and forth with the. With the event. We're doing TPOSA event tonight at ASU with myself and the lovely and talented Blake Neff.

[Blake Neff]

It's gonna be something.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know why they invited you.

[Blake Neff]

I'm not sure either.

[Charlie Kirk]

Very risky. Very risky move. But no, I'm excited for you guys both to do this. It's no. No better way to honor Charlie than to take it right into the campus. So I think we're calling you.

[Jack Posic]

Pick up the mic.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

I think it's.

[Jack Posic]

Pick up the mic. I don't know if it's a debate me. You know, I think it's. Pick up the mic.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pick up the mic. Yeah, I mean, but there will be debates, I'm sure, and.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, I hope there are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake will be dropping some. Some historical facts and knowledge, correcting the record on some things. So. Excuse me, I want to just. There's also this other brewing controversy. All of a sudden over the weekend, I get all these email inquiries from press outlets saying, please tell us about the other tour, the Democrat tour that got canceled.

[Jack Posic]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

So they're. They're acting like we had something to do with this, which is really irritating. So. Yeah, go ahead.

[Jack Posic]

Yeah, so there's this. There's this other competing tour that is going on, which I didn't even know about. You know, kind of all this.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm very vague.

[Jack Posic]

I' sort of focused on Operation Brand and all this. But this is what, you know, I've been. I've been smarting up on it, that it's called the U. The UNF America tour. Destiny's part of it. There's another, you know, another group of individuals that are part of it. And originally it was going to be that both of us were going to be holding outdoor events on ASU's campus at the same time. And so that's one of the reasons that. I think that's probably one of the reasons they wanted to call me, get Blake out there, you know, sort of say, hey, we're, you know, we're holding these. It's called bracketing.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Right.

[Jack Posic]

So you're bracketing each other and, you know, counter programming each other, whatever. And maybe some debates happen, who knows? And then this was interesting because you were getting those media inquiries, but actually what happened last week is something that I think changed this, and that's why we weren't able to promote it the way that I'd originally wanted to. We'll still be there. We'll still be holding the event. But our outdoor permit also was not approved by asu. So they're running around trying to say, oh, you know, Turning Point canceled and Erica had something to do with it

[Charlie Kirk]

because she was doing it because ASU loves us so much. Yeah.

[Jack Posic]

So what actually happened is ours, I think both were not approved.

[Charlie Kirk]

Both were not approved. So. But they're going around.

[Blake Neff]

So we were able to flex because

[Jack Posic]

we're, you know, we don't give up. So we were able to flex and adapt, you know, and we're used to

[Blake Neff]

the rules of these things, and now

[Jack Posic]

we're doing an indoor event, and it's going to be the, you know, it's gonna be tonight at six local.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, So I got an inquiry from one of the local papers here going, like, did you guys have a hand in Canada canceling their event? I go, like, this was the statement. No, but they would sure love you to think that we did. I was like, welcome to university bureaucracy.

[Jack Posic]

Did they cancel our event?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, they canceled our event.

[Jack Posic]

Ours also didn't get approved.

[Charlie Kirk]

So anyways, this group, which is, I mean, listen, I don't even want to give them too much, like, publicity because they're. They're being obnoxious and rude and vulgar to get attention. All right, but, like, I'm just going to show you. This is them out. They came to the HQ this weekend, right? Right here. They were flipping off the memorial picture of Charlie. So show that image. I don't know what image it is. It doesn't have a number on it. Guys, there we are. There it is. So that's them. Just really good people here.

[Blake Neff]

The loveliest.

[Charlie Kirk]

So Charlie's assassinated in cold blood doing a free speech event on a college campus, and you have the gall to come up and flip off his sign that we have in front of the HQ as a memorial to him. Him. That's the kind of people that we're dealing with. So when then they. They then accuse us of blocking their event? It's all garbage. We didn't block their event. We don't. I don't even know who these people are. We don't have enough, like, attention to what you're doing to block your event. Okay, like, we don't care enough. Go do your thing. Go, you know, be vulgar on your own time. We're going to do our thing. And by the way, by the way,

[Jack Posic]

I love this because this is the left who has been championing de platforming and cancel culture for like a decade. And now suddenly they're going, oh, no, our event was. I mean, do you have any idea what it's like being a conservative? Do you have any idea how Turning Point had to fight and tooth and nail and scrape and scrap the. The. What Charlie and Tyler did for so many years just to appear on campus?

[Blake Neff]

How many times we had to go

[Jack Posic]

out there and that tables get thrown over and everything?

[Charlie Kirk]

So this is your friendly terrain where all universities prefer the progressive. And you have the gall to think that we have the power, you know, on enemy terrain, to get your event canceled. That is what we call main character syndrome, where you think everything revolves around you. We don't think about you. That's the whole point. So anyways, actually, we were trying to

[Jack Posic]

get our Event approved, which we weren't

[Charlie Kirk]

able to, so we had to pivot to welcome to big leagues. All right, so here you go. Let's throw up an image. Throw it up again. This is Jack and Blake. They're gonna be. Pick up the mic. Right? Throw it up. I gotta see Blake. There's Blake.

[Blake Neff]

It's because Cypher messaged me, and he said, I need a headshot of you. And so I said, studio, do we have a headshot of me? And they said, no. And so I had to go and hastily shoot a photo of myself against the wall. They shopped it admirably, but I. I don't exactly.

[Jack Posic]

That looks like a mug shot.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, thanks, man.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

Thanks, man.

[Blake Neff]

You're only third person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Coloring is beautiful. Your skin tone is balanced. Everything looks fantastic. I love it. So this is gonna be your first time, Blake, doing what Charlie did. Really?

[Blake Neff]

I mean, it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a great.

[Blake Neff]

It is a huge.

[Charlie Kirk]

I love it.

[Blake Neff]

It's a huge responsibility. I can say, honestly, it's not. I. You guys know me. I'm a more shy person, more away from the limelight. I like to argue with people in, like, a telegram. Chat. Chat.

[Charlie Kirk]

Or just, like, in the office.

[Blake Neff]

Or in the office. Yeah. I like. I like small, intimate arrangements. I'm not a guy who wants to stand up in front of or sit, for that matter, in front of 100 people or a thousand people. But you. Charlie was like that. Charlie was a guy he didn't think anything of. Oh, 10 million people will see this on Fox News. 100 million people will see this on Tik Tok. He was a guy who wanted to be in the arena because that was his mission, to change things. I was happy to help him with that. He would. I was happy. Happy. He would say, blake, what's our good talking point on the border on marriage, on anything. I was so happy to help him with that. And because of what he had to say, he changed the world. And as we know, a murderer had to silence him for what he was going to say. And that's why.

[Charlie Kirk]

No.

[Jack Posic]

And I wanted to. I wanted to address that as well, because to say that in. And we'll go into the story more later tonight, but that for the sort of tour that never was. Six months ago, you had actually helped charge Charlie prepare for that tour with so many arguments and potential, you know, comebacks and data points and. And Charlie had been going through this, like, training session of getting ready to go out there and, you know, kind of getting the. The intellectual. Yeah, he had the Binder. And. And so now it's just like there's all these debates that. That never happened. But, Blake, you have that. You have that knowledge because you were directly working. I mean, we all talk Charlie, but you directly work with them all on it. And, you know, I feel like. I feel like with you picking up the mic, it really is that direct tie to what Charlie was planning to do.

[Blake Neff]

I mean, I certainly hope so. I hope. I hope I have to put too much pressure. I hope I am worthy of the example that he's all about repetition. I know I'm not. I am not Charlie's caliber on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

I am. But you'll get better as you do it, hopefully.

[Blake Neff]

And that's what was. That's what I mean. I was. You guys threw me into the. Threw me to the wolves talking to a bunch, I hope the Lib show homeschoolers who visited the other day. That's what I had to talk about. I said Charlie was a man who. He succeeded a lot because he failed a lot. When you see every failure as a chance to learn and get better, that is the secret weapon to becoming a huge force in American life.

[Jack Posic]

ASU tonight, Donald Trump, same way.

[Charlie Kirk]

See you guys there tonight. Pick up the mic at asu. Blake Neff, Jack Bosovic. Thanks, buddy.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

The great awakening is here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right. Before he ever stepped behind a microphone or to pick up the mic event or prove me wrong, Charlie understood that learning had to come first. Learning makes you a great leader. Learning makes you able to do hard things, important things. And one of the ways that he learned, one of the main ways that he learned was through Hillsdale's online courses. He took 31 of them. Them. One of the courses was the Genesis Story. This is a real college course taught by Hillsdale Professor Dr. Justin Jackson. It's rigorous, it's challenging, but it's accessible to anybody who's willing to learn. Charlie took this course. You can take it, too. You can take this course and all the courses that Charlie took. Grow stronger in your faith. Gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world. Prepare yourself for life with courage and conviction, and learn. Visit CharlieForHillsdale.com to enroll today. That's CharlieForHillsdale.com learn deeply. Lead boldly. Carry it forward. All right, without further ado, we have Harmeet Dhillon here at the Justice Department joining us now. There's a big case before the Supreme Court, and she's gonna explain it all to us. Harmeet, it's great to see you.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Thanks for having me today.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Please tell us about this case. I've been watching it from afar and. And it's now. Oral arguments start today.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

We had the oral argument. It was actually more than two hours long this morning and I was privileged to be there. I co authored the United States brief in this case from the Civil Rights Division. It was argued by one of our co authors, the Solicitor General, who was an amicus supporting the lower court ruling in the Fifth Circuit. And the name of the case is Watson versus Republican National Committee. The Republican National Committee sued Mississippi over its law that allows ballots to be received and counted up to five business days after the Federal Election Day, which is the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November nationwide. Now, Andrew, as you know and your viewers know, election day now means election weeks, election months. In some parts of our country, it's not an election day anymore. And so that's really the issue before the court. Does election day mean the final day that states can receive these ballots is election Day? That's what the lower court ruled. We're asking for that to be affirmed. Each of the nine justices is unusual. I've sat through many oral arguments. All of the justices asked questions in this case, and it was very lively. First of all, Mississippi's Solicitor General did a great job trying to defend Mississippi law. But I think Paul Clement, the former Solicitor General, he argued for the Republican National Committee, and I think he had the better of the arguments. It's the argument that we're supporting effectively. And then our Solicitor General came in and talked about some of the United States positions on these issues. And so it's caused chaos now. And a lot of people feel uncertainty and a lack of confidence in the outcome of our elections because you see the results flip. You see certain numbers on election day. And then in some states, like, you know, California, they can keep receiving these ballots for weeks after the election. And they don't even. Eight states don't even require a postmark. And the Postal Service also tells us these days they don't postmark all the mail.

[Charlie Kirk]

Harmeet, just really quick, you said some states don't require a postmark. I didn't even know that.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Eight states. Eight states don't require a postmark. And the Postal Service itself says they no longer bother to postmark all the mail. So how do we know that these ballots were duly cast? And secondly, the rest of the world we condemn for being not as efficient and as committed to Republican or democracy form of government as we are the rest of the world has election results on election day itself. Even countries that we consider to be not very civilized do that. We're one of those places where we're, I think, ignoring federal law. So the statutes in question before the court go back to 1845, and there was a vigorous discussion about the history of the civil war, when there were certain unusual procedures put into place to allow proxy voting and battlefield voting and all of that. And we can always have exceptions to our laws, of course. So, for example, there's a federal statute that specifically covers overseas voters, and that's one of the statutes that I administer here. It's called U ocava. So where the federal government creates certain special rules, that is not an issue. But where states are making up rules that make it looser and looser and looser, and we don't have an election day anymore. That's the problem. And so one other interesting thing to note about this argument, a case came up several times. This is Mississippi. This is not Mississippi's first trip to the court over the date of the election. In 1997, they had a case called Foster vs Love, in which they had a open primary in Mississippi. And if you won the majority in the open primary, including in a federal race, that was the end of it. There was no general election. And in that case, the United States supreme court held unanimously in 1997 that that was inconsistent with the very same federal statutes that we're talking about here. There has to be a general election. It has to be on election day. And when you're allowing ballots to keep trickling in for months and weeks afterwards, that's not appropriate harmony.

[Blake Neff]

Do we have a. Do we have good numbers on the scale like in. In a state, what percent or what number of ballots are typically coming in late? And do we have any examples where there's been a very suspiciously high number of these postmarked on election day or no postmark at all ballots?

[Harmeet Dhillon]

No, I don't think that this case turns on suspiciousness of the behavior or anything, but it does vary. Some states vote entirely by absentee ballot. Now, there's a couple of states that are more rural in character. There used to be a excuse requirement in states that's been eliminated in many states, particularly during COVID So, in fact, one of the things that was mentioned during this oral argument is that, you know, there may have been been a couple of different outliers during the supreme Court era where this federal law was passed. And using the same kind of doctrinal analysis that the court used in the bruin decision regarding second Amendment rights. The argument by the Republican National Committee and the Solicitor General's office arguing our brief was that we should use that kind of textual analysis to look at what The Congress in 1854 meant when it passed this bucket of law. And it couldn't possibly have meant that you can have absentee balloting trickling in for weeks after the election. That does not provide the finality or certainty that is required. And that's the basis for Congress to have passed these laws in the first place, creating a federal election day for federal elections. So. But we do see some states where it's almost all. Where it's all absentee balloting. And then we see some states where it's where the numbers vary. And in many jurisdictions today, after Covid, you can't even go in and cast your ballot in person. Where those states used to allow it. They have voting centers. And there's all kinds of problems with that. I saw that in person in Arizona, where you walk into a precinct and you print up a ballot, and maybe they had the wrong paper there, or the paper doesn't print correctly, or they haven't loaded the correct poll book and so on and so forth. So wouldn't it be great if we could just have the finality of people voting on or near the election day, but not after the election day and have the votes counted quickly?

[Blake Neff]

Well, it really does feel like there's two layers to this. As you say, there's the layer of is there actual fraud that this enables? But it's also to make people, to make this system work, people need to feel like it is working. And when you have all these little bits that just make you raise your eyebrow, a ballot can come in after election day. They gotta print it out. There's all this. When everything, it adds all this friction that does, we both believe, make it easier to do fraud. But even if it's not happening, it makes people distrust the process, and that makes them check out, that makes them get more radical in how they approach politics.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, if you don't want us to think that there's election fraud, then stop doing a bunch of crazy stuff that, like, leads us to believe there could be election fraud. It's very simple.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Absolutely. I mean, 16 states have these laws that allow ballots to be counted days and weeks, weeks after the election. And they're the most populous states in many cases. California, where I used to live, is one. And there are other states like this. And so, you know, you have to wonder and look at those trends and See, why is that? Why is it necessary for us to have a three week extension period for election for ballots to be received and counted? It doesn't seem necessary and it does seem inconsistent with the concept of election day. So the justices were very, very, you know, engaged. You could tell where most of them were going with their questions and it was rarely do you see an oral argument go on for more than two hours. But literally we had the privilege of seeing three of the top advocates in the country argue this and I think they all did a good job. But the law seems to support the court decision.

[Blake Neff]

Are you thinking we could get the rare 90 on a case that is getting any attention?

[Harmeet Dhillon]

This is not going to be a nine out. I think I can very confidently predict that. I don't believe in gambling, but I think there's definitely three justices who are skeptical of the government's position being a United States government's position and the Republican National Committee's position. And I think there were several justices who were clearly skeptical of the concept that under Mississippi law, Mississippi says the ballot is properly cast if you put it in the mail on election day, giving no reference to, you know, being accepted at the election headquarters, which is what the historical meaning was that it be in the hands of election officials by a certain date. And so I feel like I could count some of the solid votes to support. But you know, you never know until you see. And I think this is one of those cases where even the justices who might agree on the conclusion may have different paths to get there. Some may not want to go as far as others on this. And there was some spirited questioning as to whether there's something such as a too early deadline for early voting. I mean that's been an issue that many people have debated and Justice Alito asked a question about that. And I don't think you need to reach that question to agree that there should definitely be an endpoint to it. And that should be be the federal election day set by Congress for all federal elections.

[Charlie Kirk]

So yeah. So if, if the government is successful here, what are the ramifications? What, what do we get ramifications?

[Harmeet Dhillon]

So there are 16 states that have this post election day ballot receipt where there are mail ballots. Those would all be inconsistent with federal law and struck down. And that's huge. And so that would mean that there's an election day which is the last day by which ballots can be received by the government and now to be determined for the future. Is there a too early date? I think that there should be Other kind of things.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, you think back to 2020 when we were getting all this Hunter Biden stuff, there was already ballots being cast while that debate was being had, at least by part of the population. And part of the population got it completely censored from, from them. But all of that stuff in the final month of the presidential election, it was like we didn't know how many people had made cast their vote before they'd even heard the full. The full information. Yeah.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

And, you know, if I can just add one more point, one of the very interesting things that these folks were looking at is Mississippi. Technically, you can recall your ballot, you can put it in the mail, and then you can ask FedEx or you can ask the US Postal Service to not deliver. Deliver it. And that's a huge problem for Mississippi. And several of the justices argued about that. So we'll be waiting on the edge of our seats to see when we can get this ruling. It has to come out by May, by June, rather.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have so many other SCOTUS questions for you, Harmeet. The racial gerrymandering question, the birthright citizenship. We've got a lot of stuff pending.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Happy to come talk to you about those cases.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good. We're going to have to get to it. Harmeet Dylan, you're doing a fantastic job. Thank you for making time for us today after oral arguments. You sat through two hours of them, so very, very good update. Hopefully you're right. Maybe we get a 6, 3 here. And at least part of the clown show that is our federal elections will be rectified. We certainly can.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

That'll be amazing.

[Charlie Kirk]

That would be amazing.

[Harmeet Dhillon]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Harmeet Dylan. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you again soon. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Wanna tell you about us. I'm doing two today. I'm doing two because I'm making up for lost.

[Blake Neff]

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[Blake Neff]

We got, I mean, we were just speaking in, you know, the few segments ago about US soldiers. They're playing with their lives because of what our leaders have deliberately chosen to do. Because they bring the world's problems here, they dump the world's problems onto our people because they don't care. They don't care about them or they actively hate them. So we have, have the latest of these killings. Illegal immigrants who should not be here, just heinously murdering innocent Americans for basically no reason. The latest one is out of Chicago. A student at Loyola University Chicago, Sheridan Gorman. She was shot and killed while walking with friends along Lake Michigan. And now they say the authorities say her killer was. Was in the US illegally.

[Charlie Kirk]

Which means specifically, when did he come in?

[Blake Neff]

I believe he came in, they say, under President Biden, you know, walks across the border easily could have been turned around, could have been rejected. We did not need to let him in. But he followed the same process that literally millions of other people did because they saw it on. They saw guides on TikTok. They saw guides online that said, come to the US say the right words, they'll give you a ticket somewhere in the US and you get to live here until. Until your day in court. And even if you blow off that day in court, nobody's gonna hunt you down either. And so another psycho, another criminal in the US Murdered another innocent American. And this will not be the last story like this we're going to tell because we know there are millions of people like this guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So DHS says Medina, Medina came up to her while wearing a mask and armed with a gun, and she attempted to flee. He fired his gun and shot her. Gorman was shot and pronounced dead at the scene.

[Blake Neff]

What can you even add to that? So keep in mind, right now we have Americans in airports across the country waiting hours to get on planes not because of a software malfunction, not because of a storm. They are waiting because Democrats have said we are defunding ice. We are refusing to fund the government, refusing to fund DHA until you guys ease up on deportations. And the people they want to keep from getting deported are people like this guy. They want people like Jose Medina Medina to stay in the United States so that they can put on masks, grab guns, go and hold up women like Sheridan, try to rob them. Their goal long term is to get amnesty for people like this. Amnesty so that they want to give this guy amnesty so that he can get citizenship. And even if he's in prison for this murder, even if he's on death row, remember Democrats think people in prison should be able to vote. They want to be able to give him the ballot so that he can cast votes for Democrats. And they want, that is what they want.

[Charlie Kirk]

Population for the census to get more congressional.

[Blake Neff]

They want him counting in the census. They think he is more American than Sheridan Gorman.

[Charlie Kirk]

And this we would be remiss if we didn't remember this gem from 2025. This is Governor JB Pritzker, Chicago Lakeside bragging about how safe his city is. By the way, this is like the one corner of Chicago this that he could claim this from, but now he can't because Sheridan Gorman was killed there by a venezuelan illegal. Cut 14 lakefront path, lakefront Trail.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Absolutely gorgeous

[Blake Neff]

walking around here early morning

[Charlie Kirk]

on the south Lakefront Trail, south side. Just gorgeous. Look at that overpass of the Lakeshore Drive.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Really beautiful.

[Dr. Chase Spears]

And of course facilities for everybody in a great lake, friend.

[Blake Neff]

There's also a photo out there. I don't know if we have it but Governor Pritzker he went, he. He visited a memorial that was, you know, an impromptu memorial that was put up to Alex Pretty and Renee Good after.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what he's spending his time.

[Blake Neff]

He cares about them. He does not care about a woman. He hasn't issued a statement about it as far as I know. At least as of this morning. Like doesn't. It's not a priority. It's not a priority for Democrat. The priority for Democrats is to make sure that killers like this come into America, stay in America, kill actual Americans.

[Charlie Kirk]

Not to black pill. But there's another crazy story. This one's out of Seattle and this Seattle man shot and killed an eight month pregnant Korean American woman and nearly killed her husband when they were driving to work. Work. And he's been found not guilty by reason of insanity.

[Blake Neff]

At least this guy as Far as I know, is not any illegal. No, he's a homegrown problem that we have. And we shouldn't say found guilty, but not guilty by reason of insanity. It was a plea deal. So the state, I read about this yesterday, this murder happened three years ago. They spent three years evaluating this guy or they were really on the ball about that. And then after three years of waiting, they do a plea deal to say, oh, he's insane. So he gets to go to a mental hospital where years from now we're 100% guaranteed some left wing NGO is going to give him free representation to argue, oh, that he should be released. He needs probably government funded. Yeah, probably a government funded NGO will go out to argue that that guy should be free again. And this is happening in left wing jurisdictions across the us. Another case just like that one happened in Northern Virginia. It's genuinely frustrating because when you talk to ordinary Americans who only follow the news a bit, you have to describe what the left is doing. And what they are doing is so insane, so evil, so depraved, so messed up that they will not believe you because you sound nuts. We saw this with the trans thing. When you say, oh yeah, your teachers can be talking to your kids, convince them they're the opposite sex, they can start putting them on hormones, start referring to them by a new name, a new sex without telling you. And if you object to this in some states, they can take those kids away from their parents. You would tell people about this and they would think you are a gibbering madman. And it's just like this with crime. They will think you are a gibbering madman. If you see, say what their priority is every day, which is allowing illegal, allowing foreign crazy criminal gang members to come to America and kill you. And then they will move heaven and earth to keep them in the United

[Charlie Kirk]

States or to keep repeat offenders on the streets, they are with an insanity plea. By the way, nowhere is it written that society is obligated to keep deranged insane killers on the street until they die of old age.

[Blake Neff]

We are like a, a, it's like we're building our own funeral pyre as a country.

[Charlie Kirk]

I hope you enjoyed this, ending the show on a high note. Hopefully we have some positive news tomorrow. We'll see you then.