The Charlie Kirk Show, March 31, 2026

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show – March 31, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice

Host: Charlie Kirk (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: March 31, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show dives into multiple urgent topics shaping American news and culture, with extended, in-depth coverage of the controversy over media reporting on the killing of Charlie Kirk and the forensic evidence in the Tyler Robinson trial. The show also tackles the ongoing war in Iran, analyzes growing faith and revival among Gen Z, and discusses health crises related to microplastics and the powers of gut health, concluding with a debate on the intersection of faith and sports surrounding the Jaden Ivey NBA firing. Regular and guest contributors bring a combination of investigative sharpness, skepticism towards mainstream narratives, and passionate advocacy for American and Christian values.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

1. Controversy in the Charlie Kirk Assassination Case

[06:19 – 14:33]
Guests: Justin Nazarov (Phoenix Ammunition CEO), Blake, Citizen Kane (Citizen Free Press)

Main Discussion Points

• Misleading Media Headlines
  • A Daily Mail headline claims: “The bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson.”
  • Justin Nazarov criticizes the reporting as “utterly misleading garbage” due to lack of critical context: the bullet was too fragmented to allow for a match, which is not equivalent to a mismatch.
  • “There’s no magic CSI-style reconstruction. This isn’t how science works.” – Charlie Kirk [10:42].

Forensics & Ballistics Explained

• Fragmentation of high-velocity rounds (common with hollow points) very often prevents matching bullet to weapon.
• “[Ballistics] is a very inexact science… most people really don’t understand much about firearms generally, and even people in the firearms community… don’t really know a lot about ammunition.” – Justin Nazarov [07:52].
• Other evidence is crucial: DNA, casings, text messages, witness testimony—all of which point to Robinson despite ballistic inconclusivity.

Notable Quotes

• “Inconclusive or unable to identify is not the same as does not match. So it’s a reckless headline.” – Charlie Kirk [14:19]

Takeaway

• The episode urges listeners not to conflate lack of ballistic confirmation with evidence of innocence, warning against internet-driven conspiracy logic and media sensationalism.

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2. Social Media Fallout & Conspiracy Culture

[27:56 – 36:38]
Guests: Citizen Kane, Blake

• The Daily Mail headline “engineered” to spark internet conspiracies around an “alternate shooter.”
• Citizen Kane analyzes culture war dynamics, observing both the initial surge of conspiratorial theorists and the swift “army of Team Sanity voices” correcting the narrative online.
• “Vibe shift” noted as rational, well-informed commentators push back, restoring confidence in fact-driven debate.

Notable Quotes

• “Anytime you try to get into the brain of a conspiracy theorist… they want to know stuff other people don’t know.” – Citizen Kane [33:59]
• “There is a cost for free speech—sometimes stupid people say stupid things. But hopefully courage and wisdom, prudence will rush in and fill the void.” – Charlie Kirk [36:42]

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3. Iran War and Political Dynamics

[40:15 – 47:35]
Guests: Citizen Kane, soundbites from political figures

• The U.S. is engaged in a protracted campaign in Iran, facing domestic and global pressures.
• Questions raised: Will Trump send “boots on the ground”? How will the MAGA base react if casualties mount?
• Consensus: trust in President Trump’s leadership persists among the base, so long as casualties remain low, but “the support is thin” and could erode quickly with a prolonged ground war.
• Kane notes that the barometer for turning of opinion will likely be “a huge number of American deaths.”

Notable Quotes

• “Once you do boots on the ground, there’s always a reason to send more.” – Charlie Kirk [43:25]
• “It’s the most important thing that this be successfully completed, than what the market does.” – Jamie Dimon (paraphrased) [41:08]

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4. Economic Fallout from the Iran War

[47:53 – 52:28]
Guest: Philip Patrick (Birch Gold Group)

• Oil prices have spiked ($123/barrel), gas now $4/gallon, leading to fears of inflation and possible recession.
• The Fed has not cut interest rates due to “two opposing dangers”—energy-driven inflation and slowing consumer confidence.

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5. Health & Microplastics: The Kimchi Solution

[53:59 – 69:14]
Guest: Ellie Hirsch (Bright Core Senior Health Advisor)

Main Discussion

• Focus on the sharp rise in microplastics and toxins in the global food chain and their health risks (cancer, dementia, hormonal disorders).
• Kimchi celebrated as a “superfood” with over 900 strains of probiotics, credited with helping Koreans live six years longer on average than Americans.
• Introduction of Kimchi1, a daily capsule supplement designed for Americans unable to consume traditional fermented foods.
• Ellie contends: “Kimchi can actually eliminate and extract microplastics from the body… Studies have proven it.” [65:09]

Notable Quotes

• “I am the chief of skeptics here… But then you see Koreans, and all they do is eat kimchi. And apparently they live to 100.” – Charlie Kirk [58:24]
• “70-80% of our immune system is housed in our gut.” – Ellie Hirsch [65:09]

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6. Faith Revival Among Gen Z

[73:44 – 86:44]
Guest: Selena Zito (Washington Examiner; Author – Butler)

Main Discussion

• Zito reports massive and ongoing revival and surge in faith among Gen Z, especially after Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
• “The Sunday after Charlie was killed, my church was jam-packed… it hasn’t stopped.” – Selena Zito [75:45]
• Large gatherings, hundreds of baptisms, cross-denominational participation (Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical).
• This phenomenon is under-reported in the national media, with Zito noting: “My profession doesn’t understand how to cover it.”
• Atheism and agnosticism in the U.S. have dropped to 5% each—the lowest in years.
• Discussion acknowledges national polling caveats, but leverages local data and anecdotal evidence as clear signs of a faith wave building among youth and millennials.

Notable Quotes

• “What God has unleashed, man cannot stop… If God’s ultimate purpose is to unleash a tidal wave of young people coming into faith… then so be it.” – Charlie Kirk [79:04]
• “Even if you don’t see it in national polls, the churches are overflowing.” – Selena Zito [77:13]

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7. NBA, Free Speech, and Faith: The Jaden Ivy Story

[86:44 – 94:36]
Guest: Selena Zito, Panel

• Jaden Ivy, former Chicago Bulls player, was reportedly waived for his outspoken Christian beliefs and opposition to the NBA’s LGBTQ Pride Month celebrations.
• Panel discusses the inconsistency: severe offenses (violence, substance abuse) have yielded suspensions but not firings; yet faith-based expression prompts termination.
• Cultural institutions routinely misunderstand or marginalize Christians, faith, and traditional values.

Notable Quotes

• “You can abstain from standing for the national anthem… but you can’t profess your faith.” – Selena Zito [89:03]
• “If there is a team out there willing to bring this guy on, just enjoy and reap the benefits… I have a feeling you’ll be blessed.” – Charlie Kirk [93:49]

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On Ballistics & Media:
  “Inconclusive or unable to identify is not the same as does not match. So it’s a reckless headline.”
  — Charlie Kirk [14:19]
• On Microplastics:
  “Kimchi can actually eliminate and extract microplastics from the body… Studies have proven it.”
  — Ellie Hirsch [65:09]
• On Faith Revival:
  “The Sunday after Charlie was killed, my church was jam-packed… it hasn’t stopped.”
  — Selena Zito [75:45]
• On Free Speech Consequences:
  “There is a cost for free speech—sometimes stupid people say stupid things. But hopefully courage and wisdom, prudence will rush in and fill the void.”
  — Charlie Kirk [36:42]
• On American Foreign Policy:
  “Once you do boots on the ground, there’s always a reason to send more.”
  — Charlie Kirk [43:25]
• On NBA Double-Standards:
  “You can abstain from standing for the national anthem… but you can’t profess your faith.”
  — Selena Zito [89:03]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [06:19] — Bullet, headline, and ballistics coverage with Justin Nazarov
• [14:19] — Summary and critique of the Daily Mail reporting
• [27:56] — Social media, conspiracy backlash, and Team Sanity
• [40:15] — Iran war, MAGA base attitudes, and boots on the ground
• [47:53] — Economic consequences, oil, and precious metals
• [53:59] — Gut health, microplastics crisis, and kimchi solutions
• [73:44] — Gen Z faith revival with Selena Zito
• [86:44] — NBA, Jaden Ivy, and faith in the public square

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies The Charlie Kirk Show’s ethos: unapologetically challenging mainstream media narratives, defending American values, platforming outspoken experts, and weaving together threads of faith, freedom, health, and skepticism toward institutional power. With robust debate and spirited reporting, the show continues to operate at the nexus of news, cultural commentary, and grassroots revival.

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Transcript

[Ellie Hirsch]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Pete Hegseth]

President Trump and boots on the ground. We're not going to foreclose any option. You can't fight and win a war if you tell your adversary what you are willing to do or what you are not willing to do to include boots on the ground. Our adversary right now thinks there are 15 different ways we could come at them with boots on the ground. And guess what? There are. So if we needed to, we could execute those options on behalf of the President, United States and, and this department. Or maybe we don't have to use them at all.

[Charlie Kirk]

Democrats said we are not going to pass the appropriations bill for the Department of Homeland Security unless they agreed to 10 reforms.

[Selena Zito]

The department doesn't have the resources to

[Charlie Kirk]

be able to pay for not just ICE and cbp, but they don't have the resources to pay for TSA agents. They don't have the resources to fund the Coast Guard, to fund our cybersecurity employees. In a time when we are faced, our terror alarm is higher than usual.

[Ellie Hirsch]

President and these Republicans who have no

[Charlie Kirk]

commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way. There's so many things that you can do to protect the election. We have to be on guard as to what they may try to do to the technology.

[Ellie Hirsch]

They may try to creep into the

[Charlie Kirk]

technology and create a false count.

[Justin Nazarov]

Ultimately, we want to make sure that

[Charlie Kirk]

every community member that calls Providence home feels safe.

[Blake]

And we can both agree that this

[Justin Nazarov]

mural behind us does not reflect Providence's

[Blake]

values, nor does it reflect the creativity

[Charlie Kirk]

that we want to see in our city.

[Ellie Hirsch]

We have seen some pretty uncomfortable ways

[Selena Zito]

that faith and political power have collided. You know, seeing the flag and the cross conflated and we have seen religion and political violence showing up more and more in our public spaces. It's something that is just very in our faces and something that we're very concerned about and something that feels very

[Ellie Hirsch]

threatening right now at this time.

[Jaden Ivy]

Time that the world can proclaim lgbtq. They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA. They proclaim it. They. They show it to the world. They say, come, come, come join us for Pride, for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness. They proclaim it on the billboards. They proclaim it in the streets. Unrighteousness. So how is it that one can't speak righteousness? How is it one that. How are they to say that, man, this man is crazy?

[Charlie Kirk]

I think it's a situation for him where it's on his own personal Instagram. I don't want to get into what he put out there, but certainly I hope for him he's okay. I don't know.

[Justin Nazarov]

Like, I've had conversations with Jaden and

[Philip Patrick]

stuff, and he's been always about rehabilitation, trying to apply it.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I think organizationally, there's certain standards I think we want to have as

[Philip Patrick]

an organization to try to close each and every day.

[Ellie Hirsch]

Made a surprise appearance at the DNC

[Selena Zito]

that I wanted to ask you about.

[Charlie Kirk]

Endorsing Kamala Harris. What was the reaction to that and why did.

[Selena Zito]

Why was that so important for you to do?

[Charlie Kirk]

Endorsing Kamala is important for me, for my family. Knowing Kamala and having been around her, and I understand she's qualified for this job.

[Philip Patrick]

She's, I think, representing what it means

[Charlie Kirk]

to be a great leader, trying to

[Jaden Ivy]

win championships and you not doing the will of God. That's where many stumble. That's why you got Steph Curry, and he not even surrendered. And y' all believe he's a Christian. Y' all believe he's a Christian because he wrote Philippians 4:13. Y' all think he's a Christian, but he cursing just like the world. So Jesus Christ, he comes to call these sinners to repentance. He comes to call. He comes to call sinners that they become righteous. If many of you in this call are sinners, sinners will not inherit the kingdom of God. You have to become born again of the Holy Spirit to inherit God's kingdom. You need the blood of Jesus to cleanse you of all sin.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie Kirk. Every day, there's a battle for your mind, raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not. You found a place for truth, the voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go.

[Citizen Kane]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's March 35th or 31st, 2026, here at the Bitcoin.com studios Blake, welcome. Hello. We had quite an evening. When we got home, there was a breaking news story, a about the Tyler Robinson trial. Which stories it wasn't actually breaking.

[Blake]

That's really what we actually want to emphasize because there's. There's several pieces of it. And what people decided to run with online was pretty different from what people decided you and I actually think is the biggest reveal of it.

[Charlie Kirk]

There was actually a lot of reveals, but people should know this. So, essentially, the Daily Mail comes out with an article that says, the bullet does not match the gun.

[Blake]

This is the literal headline that the Daily Mail used and which got millions

[Charlie Kirk]

of views on millions.

[Blake]

The headline was Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not all caps match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson. New court filing claims. Now we're going to have to unpack that.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to unpack a lot of that. But here to help us do it is somebody that I've been watching online for a while now. I've been really impressed with his takes. I've never met him in person before, but he agreed to come on because he was instantly on top of this story. His name is Justin Nazarov. He's the CEO of Phoenix Ammunition. Welcome to the show, Justin.

[Justin Nazarov]

Thanks for having me, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. It's the first time I've ever seen you, Justin, so it's great to see you. So let's just take apart this headline from the Daily Mail. I saw you criticizing it as sort of an egregious misrepresentation of the facts. They're saying the bullet does not match the rifle. You know, court filing claims. Right. What's your read of what actually it says?

[Justin Nazarov]

Well, I mean, it's one of those headlines where they can say something that's true, but because they leave out the context, as soon as you read the article, you can see why it's false. And so what they did was they analyzed a bullet jacket fragment and were unable to determine that it came from the shooter's rifle. So, unfortunately, ballistic science is, in a lot of cases, a best guess and in many other cases, pseudoscience. But what we know is it doesn't work like CSI Las Vegas. When a bullet hits something and deforms, which is what we've been talking about the whole time, we're assuming that the shooter probably used a hollow point or some other bullet that is functionally intended to deform when it hits something. And so when it does that, it doesn't come out in a nice, perfect form where you can see all the lands and grooves from the barrel and make a positive match. So in this case, they can't determine whether the bullet was fired from the rifle, but they also can't determine that it wasn't fired from the rifle. That's effectively all saying. They're saying that there's some reasonable doubt, that it could theoretically have been something else. Now, and I'm not making an affirmative declaration one way or another. I want people to understand that this has nothing to do with what I think happened or what anybody else thinks happened. All I'm doing is looking at the facts. And as somebody who's been doing this for a very long time, knowing that most people just really don't understand much about firearms generally, and even people in the firearms community who do understand firearms generally don't really know a lot about ammunition.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And so you're saying basically, because the fragmentation of the bullet was so severe, I don't mean to sort of infer by your tone here, but you're saying, of course, this would be one of the options, that of course you wouldn't be able to necessarily identify it via forensic evidence with the. With the gun. There's other ways you could. Now, the caliber matches all of these kinds of things. But, you know, I think what people expect is sort of the CI CSI version of reality.

[Blake]

A lot of people think, and I think this is a graphic you can see in TV shows or movies where they'll take, like, a bunch of little pieces of metal out of, like, you

[Charlie Kirk]

know, thin air, and then.

[Blake]

And then they'll, like, put them all onto, like, a little, you know, machine. And then, like, the computer will assemble all the bits and they'll just see it. Oh, they'll like, bend the bits and reassemble the bullet and then, like, green text will pop up that says confirm. Ding, ding, ding.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm just going to read one of your tweets. I'm not going to put it up on screen because you use some colorful language here, Justin, but you say completely and utterly misleading garbage about this Daily Mail headline. You say the bullet is unable to be identified because it's fragment. You use more colorful language here. It's fragmented into a bunch of pieces. And when that happens, they don't do some magic CSI Las Vegas animation where they managed to reassemble the bullet and perfectly align the lands and grooves to match a barrel. None of that is real. That is not how science works. And so I. And then, you know, it was interesting to watch the Internet last Night, this story hits all the usual suspects, take it and run it. And then a bunch of saner voices come in and say, this, this is not something new. We've known that this, the bullet fragmented. We knew that, like lining up. Yeah, lining it perfectly up to the rifle was going to be a challenge. But there's other ways that you could, you could match in theory. Right. And again, I respect that. You're not trying to say this happened or that happened. You're just giving us the details, you're giving us the facts. There's other ways you could match a gun to a bullet. Correct.

[Blake]

Or they could test the metal and show this is the same metal as the rounds that were recovered with the rifle. Which, remember, we have a rifle with rounds that have political messages engraved on them.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the casing that they have from this also has a message engraved on it. Apparently that matches.

[Justin Nazarov]

I mean, I guess I'll even, I'll even walk that back a bit further. It's actually very difficult to match a, a bullet to a rifle. So for example.30 06 as a cartridge uses the same bullet that's used in.308 Winchester. So even if you recovered a, a.308 diameter bullet that was perfectly intact, if you didn't have the rifle that it was fired from to match the lands and grooves, there would be no way for you to determine that it was fired from a rifle chambered in.308 Winchester or.30 06. And so then when you start mangling up bullets that are roughly about the same size, a lot of medium to large caliber rifles use projectiles that are roughly the same length, roughly the same weight, roughly the same diameter. So if you smash those up into pieces, you may not. Even if you didn't have, if they didn't have a rifle to compare it to, there's no guarantee that they would even be able to know what the caliber of the cartridge was beyond reasonable doubt. So it's a very inexact science. And in case, in this case, you know, Candace, actually, Candace Owens, I hate to bring her up, but she mentioned on her podcast on September 25 that the bullet was fragmented into pieces. So this is something that, you know, the people on that side of the, of the fence have known for a long time, and this is, they're just basically milking more, more views and more audience out of the same information we already had. It's, it's basically like Schrodinger's bullet. Right. If they had, if they had managed to recover a fully intact bullet, where the lands and grooves matched perfectly. People on the other side would say, well, it's obvious that the bullet was planted because you're telling me that a bullet was fired through a human being and it was, it was in perfect condition. There's no way that that came out of Charlie Kirk. It must have been something that they fired in a test range and this is what they're using to frame the shooter.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Justin Nazarov]

But in this case, because it's broken up into pieces, they can say, oh, we'll see. We can't even identify the bullet. So it's. It must not have been Tyler Robinson and has to be somebody else. It's just, it's nonsense.

[Charlie Kirk]

Justin, hang right there. We got another segment with you. But just to sum it up for the audience here, inconclusive or unable to identify is not the same as does not match. So it's a reckless headline.

[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jaden Ivy]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Justin Nazarov]

Well, it seems obvious that there are people who will latch onto the piece of evidence that they think can be most easily used to confuse people. Like I was getting at earlier, this is a situation where no matter. No matter what they said about the bullet in particular, there would be a way for them to spin it to either prove or disprove what they think happened. So unfortunately, all the other evidence, the videos and what have you, none of that has been viewable by the public. And I think once that does become viewable, it will answer a lot of these questions and, you know, ideally get everybody on the same page. But for the time being, most of the theories on the other side of the table revolve around the idea that it could not have been Tyler Robinson because there's no way that a 36 could have caused the damage that it caused without causing more damage. And so.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, yeah, Justin. Yeah, a pause right there because a lot of this has, and I hate going into it on this, but like, at some point we have to. Charlie was my friend, was Blake's friend. He sat in this chair for years. And it's hard to even talk about this because it is graphic in nature. But, you know, a lot of this conspiracy stuff goes around no exit wound. Well, there's different types of bullets, and I'm getting educated on this. And when you see fragmentation like this, what does that tell you about the nature of the round itself? What kind of, you know, there's hollow point, there's full metal jacket there. Does it tell you something about the type of round and why there wouldn't be an exit wound?

[Justin Nazarov]

Yeah, it tells me that somebody wanted Charlie Kirk dead. I mean, that's really the long and the short of it. If you're going to assassinate somebody, you would most assuredly use some sort of a hollow point projectile or some other type of projectile that's designed to break into pieces because that's what causes the most terminal damage on the target. You would not want to use something like a full metal jacket bullet where it would pass all the way through the target and leave a relatively small entry and possibly small exit wound. So this is exactly what I would expect. I mean, you know, you hate to say it, but if you are in a position to politically assassinate somebody, that's exactly the round that you would choose. So it tells me that this is somebody who thought about it a little bit and decided that they wanted somebody dead. It's consistent with somebody that knows enough about firearms to understand that you're using a hollow point round for things like hunting and self defense, specifically for that reason, because they expand, they unfold, they break into pieces and generally leave no exit wound. Because in those cases, the idea is to prevent hitting somebody that's, you know, behind the person that you're. You're trying to defend yourself from, or causing it to pass all the way through an animal and perhaps endanger somebody behind it or just at worst, passing through and not causing enough damage to, you know, either eliminate the threat in the case of a self defense scenario or in the case of hunting, you know, to cause the animal to die quickly and humanely. So this is, this is 100% consistent with what I would have expected.

[Charlie Kirk]

So.

[Justin Nazarov]

Expected to hear.

[Charlie Kirk]

What I've gathered, you know, is that apparently in 40% of cases involving high velocity rounds, they're unable to match a bullet to a weapon because of this fragmentation. That happens. Apparently. It's. It's very common. Almost. Almost half of the cases, you can't match it because the bullet is so badly damaged.

[Blake]

Which I want to really dive into that because, okay, we are still able to, you know, make conclusions in cases where they can't make that match. And that's what we really should emphasize. The real news of the past few days from these filings from the defense is they're reacting to evidence that the prosecution is planning to present, including at the preliminary hearing, that they want pushed back by six months because they're trying to drag this case out as long as possible. At the preliminary hearing, it is reported that the prosecution plans to call Tyler Robinson's parents and Tyler Robinson's furry boyfriend to the stand. So we've seen over and over, it's actually. It just gets wildly alleged on social media that actually his parents didn't turn him in. Actually, his parents don't. They're not cooperating with police. They've just lied about these things, when in reality, we know from endless documentation they were involved in turning him in, and now it appears that they're ready to testify in the case.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Blake]

And that is how we're able to reach conclusions about this case without a bullet match.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And you can say the casings match, the DNA's match, the markings on the bullet casings match, the text messages match. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of other.

[Blake]

His location matches.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Justin, final 30 seconds to you. What do you want people to take away from what we believe is a misleading headline from the Daily Mail?

[Justin Nazarov]

Yeah, I want people to take away the fact that, again, ballistic science is very inexact at best, and you're dealing with a lot of people on the Internet who have no knowledge of it whatsoever. And so it's very easy to conven in court cases. It's very easy to confuse a jury. You know, they. They discussed ammunition in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, and a lot of the information that they presented was false in on both sides, actually. So this is not. This is not an exact science. This is not something that you can draw 100 conclusions about. This is but one piece of evidence among many. And I wish people would just take a breath and relax.

[Charlie Kirk]

Justin, thank you for joining us. Phoenix ammunition. Check them out. We'll be right back. We're unafraid to talk about.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Well, we finally know who President Trump and his team have been negotiating with inside Iran. 47 says it's the country's parliamentary speaker who has been vehemently denying any ongoing talks with the US he's even threatened American soldiers saying quote, waiting for the arrival of American troops on the ground to set them on fire and punish their regional partners forever. As the fighting continues, American allies in the Gulf are reportedly urging President Trump to keep bombing Iran, saying that Tehran hasn't been weakened enough by the month long campaign. Countries privately pushing the US to finish the job supposedly include Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Bahrain. Each of those countries has sustained damage from Iranian led attacks due to their close ties to the U.S. they're also calling for significant changes in the Iranian leadership. In fact, the United Arab Emirates is said to be the most aggressive of the Gulf states in pushing for U. S Led ground invasion of Iran. Meantime, the Pentagon and the White House are calling on the rest of the world to step up.

[Pete Hegseth]

I think the President was clear this morning in his truth that there are countries around the world who ought be prepared to step up on this critical waterway as well. It's not just the United States Navy. Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like that as well. So he's pointing out this is an international waterway that we use less than most, in fact, dramatically less than most. So the world ought pay attention to be prepared to stand up. President Trump's been willing to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the free world to address this threat of Iran. It's not just our problem set going forward.

[Terrence Bates]

Meantime, the White House is continuing to push Congress to fund the Department of Homeland Security. The current DHS shutdown is now the longest in American history. On Monday, the White House called vacationing lawmakers in the House and Senate to task, particularly Democrats saying they need to return from their current break. That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terence Bates.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

that you can understand.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a great thing. Wanna bring in the one, the only Citizen Kane from Citizen Free Press. Welcome back to the show, my friend. Lots going on in the world. I, you know, we did. I didn't brief you on this, but if you feel like chiming in, please do. About this whole Daily Mail thing, I'm sure you saw the headline, you know, do you have thoughts, Kane?

[Citizen Kane]

Yeah. Did you see what I, what headlines? I gave it.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, I didn't. I've had a busy couple of hours of like 24 hours, I would say.

[Citizen Kane]

Yeah, I gave, came. There's this, there's an ex guy, a Twitter guy, Kanakoa.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh yeah, exactly.

[Citizen Kane]

Yeah. So I found that tweet and it was a really good sort of breakdown of why the Daily Mail headline is ridiculous. And so, yeah, so I've got Twitter

[Blake]

clowns fall for Charlie Kirk assassination subplot, the bullet misdirection play. That is a good headline. Thank you for that one, Kane.

[Charlie Kirk]

There you go.

[Blake]

And then you have Tyler Robinson DNA found all over rifle, furry boyfriend Lance Twigs called to testify. Thank you very much, that's very appreciated.

[Charlie Kirk]

I didn't even know, you know, we booked this before this whole story dropped and it's been a busy, like I said, let's just say 12 to 18 hours. So I usually, I'm like, I've got your, the, the stack on my desktop just constantly refreshing. So you know me. But no, that's great headlines yeah, there

[Citizen Kane]

was another one, I think I just went. I gave it a third headline to the Kanakoa tweet. Ridiculous headline from. From the Daily Mail. I didn't even want. I didn't link to the Daily Mail story. I didn't even really want because it's so confusing, you know, I had to read it a couple of times. First of all, just the way the, you know, the visual. The graphics of Daily Mail are horrible, so they make reading stories difficult to begin with. And then when you go with a misleading headline like that, you know, it makes it even worse as you sort of go ahead.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, I was just gonna say I didn't mean to cut you off. I just think it's worth reading Kanakoa the Great's tweet here because it was good. He says, what a misleading headline from the Daily Mail. The ATF ran a tool mark analysis on a bullet jacket fragment recovered from Charlie's autopsy. The result was inconclusive. Not no match. The jacket was too fragmented to compare, which also partially explains the lack of an exit wound. The bullet shattered on impact. Inconclusive means insufficient evidence to draw any conclusion. It doesn't mean the bullet did not match the rifle. Like the headline says, the defense wants to use inconclusive as exculpatory evidence, but the prosecution wants to run chemical or molecular analysis comparing the jacket alloy to ammunition recovered with the gun. Unlike tool mark analysis, it doesn't require an intact bullet. The defense is trying to block that testing from happening. That's the nuance of the real story. That's very well said and very concise.

[Citizen Kane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good on everything, that guy.

[Ellie Hirsch]

He.

[Citizen Kane]

He had a substack for a while that he was keeping up with, but he. He writes fantastic stuff. That's why I actually put the. The Tyler Robinson DNA post in there as well. Was just. That was one. You know, some of the best stuff is often found in the replies, the top replies on Twitter. And, you know, it was just some. It was actually grok, I think, pointing out that. That. That Tyler Robinson's DNA was found on the trigger. It was found on multiple, Multiple parts of the rifle. So anyway, it's just ridiculous to me. I. You know, I'll just say this because I want to hear your and Blake's thoughts, because I don't really live in this world, as I've told you. I'm too busy sort of on the stack juggling tabs, right. So I'm not able to spend time on X and follow what's going on in the machinations. And it's just. It always. It's just insanity to me that this entire subculture has built up around, you know, an actual belief in an alternate shooter. So I'm just not going to say any more than that. Just. But it's just other than it's shocking to me, like, every time I venture, like I did yesterday, I'm just stunned that people actually believe this stuff. So.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, it was interesting, too, to kind of see the. It was a bit of a back and forth, right? You see the headline, massive amount of, you know, we told you so. You know, I think people kind of in a weird, sick way, rushing to

[Blake]

Tyler Robinson's defense, want Tyler Robinson to be acquitted. In the case of some people, I think it's just because they actively like the idea of Charlie's killer getting away with it. Yeah, I think that's clearly the case. The motive with some of them, some of them are just so addicted to their particular conspiracy, hobby horses, that they, you know, it's the, you know, every single thing looks like a nail to a hammer.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I think some want to have part of, like, an inside knowledge that they know better, that you can't trust the authorities. What's interesting to me, though, and I made this. I haven't said this out loud yet, but that line of thinking of that you can't trust our authorities. Well, hold on now. You're trusting an ATF analysis that came back inconclusive. So if they were just, you know, trying to, you know, conspire to get Tyler Robinson convicted against the real truth that some other person did it or he was a patsy or whatever, why would the ATF not just come back with a, oh, it's conclusive. So on the one hand, you don't want to listen to the feds, but on the other hand, you're very willing to believe that this bullet was the inconclusive findings from the atf. So it kind of defeats their own argument if you think of it that way. But, you know, listen, I think what was interesting from a media perspective, and I think you would appreciate this, Cain, is that it felt like this headline was engineered to get this reaction. That's what bothered me the most because it was so reckless, it was so irresponsible. I call it media malfeasance. It was engineered to play into this cottage industry that's developed online.

[Citizen Kane]

Yeah, there was a lot of interesting stuff that both of you said, but I'll start with the last part. Yeah, it complet Look, Daily Mail editors know what the heck they're doing with these headlines. They know what's going on in the subplot, as you said, and they just, it was manufactured for them. That's why I, you know, I believe in free speech. But there was someone who had made a comment that Daily Mail should actually be blocked from X for a week or for two weeks as punishment for such a horrible headline saying that the bullet, you know, the bullet didn't match. And then, you know what, going into what you guys said before, it is just, look, it's, it's, it's weird. Anytime you try to get into the brain of a conspiracy theorist, right? How do you go into all of the reasons that maybe, you know, they get a thrill out of it? They want to know stuff that other people don't know. All of that is true. And it's, and it kind of sucks. I mean, I want us, you know, part of me always feels like, you know, it sort of sucks that it's allowed to be out there, that this kind of stuff is allowed to, you know, get seep into the subconscious of what happened surrounding Charlie's assassination. But at the same time, it's free speech and you can't, you know, you gotta allow everything. But this is really one of those examples where I wish certain people could have been, could have been gagged. You know, just maybe if there was a stupidity meter for speech, that your speech has to pass a sub level bar before it's allowed in, you know, for the rest of us to hear.

[Charlie Kirk]

But anyway, yeah, I don't know how

[Citizen Kane]

you guys deal with it. There is a don't know how you deal with it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I, you know, listen, the only way through is through Cain, I will tell you. And God gives us enough grace for each and every day. I will tell you. And you know, here's the encouraging part though, and I didn't really finish my thought, is that it was like a seesaw. So you get this first wave and then you have this army of people, most of whom I have no idea who these people are rushing to Team Sanity basically saying, you guys are taking this in a misleading direction. It's a misleading headline. You guys are being idiots. We had Phoenix ammunition, who's a guy I've just seen on Twitter and X, you know, basically trying to talk sense into people for months. And I finally was like, I reached out to him, I was like, hey, man, I saw your comment on this. Would you come on and just say that on the show if you feel like it's true. And he was like, absolutely. You know, it's just some new friends, you know, just through the mix of this. And I've seen so much of this online where you're seeing the emergence of new, like powerful, confident voices rushing to team sanity. So it's actually kind of cool cuz you saw like the vibe shift in real time last night.

[Citizen Kane]

So there's the positive benefit of free speech right there, even if it's ugly and stupid.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there's a cost for free speech. There is a cost for free speech and the cost is that sometimes stupid people say stupid things. But hopefully courage and wisdom, prudence will rush in and fill the void. So it's not just one side winning the day, if you will. Kane. I have so much more I want to get to besides the Daily Mail story and that. We've run through most of our segment here, but I'm gonna keep you for the next segment so we get to it. But let's just start here. Vibe check on Citizen Free Press. How are the troops doing? How's the base feeling right now? We got a final 30, 42nd.

[Citizen Kane]

They're hanging with it. They're hanging with it. You know, we're still. This is day 31. I think people are giving Trump six to seven and a half weeks to finish this thing. Yeah. The Netanyahu comment that we're beyond the halfway point from Israel standpoint. I just put up the Jamie Dimon people should go to Citizen Free Press, Find that Jamie Dimon quote where he says, regardless of whether you think we should have started this war, now that we're in it, ignore the freaking markets, screw the markets, and finish the war correctly, logistically it's much better just to finish the thing. So I think that's. But to answer the basis is still hanging in there with Trump.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, that's good to know. I mean, nobody knows the base like Cain at Citizen Free Press. You guys have a massive, massive audience. Millions of people check it every day. And I recommend everybody check out Citizen Free Press every day. I usually am like, I know your stack as well as you do usually on most days, but it's been a busy one here. Can't find. All right, hang right there, Cain. We're gonna talk more about Iran and other things. I wanna tell you guys about all family pharmacy. These guys, amazing, amazing guys out of Florida have built an incredible business. And why I say that is because they, they sort of are helping to fix some of the inefficiencies of healthcare. Normally you get sick you wait in line, all that junk. You ask a doctor for permission. You don't need to do that anymore. You can take control of your own healthcare with all family pharmacy. You order prescription medications before, before you get sick. That's the key. So you can be all stocked up. Right now you're covered to be full just in case you get sick. A licensed doctor reviews your request and your medication ships straight to the door. Antibiotics, antivirals, Tamiflu, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, mendazole, methylene blue, and even your daily maintenance medication. Choose freedom. Choose the right pharmacy. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com Kirk that's all family pharmacy.com Kirk Use code Kirk10 to save 10% on your next order. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined by Kane from Citizen Free Press. Please check it out today. It is a must. Best go to resource online. And the headlines, I'm just reviewing the headlines. Kane, you were to Blake's point. Your headlines were very good yesterday. So kudos to you, sir. So when it comes to Iran, you're saying that the base is sticking there with Trump. They're extending him a bit of trust, a bit of leash because they know that he's not gotten us into forever wars and quagmires in the Middle east like so many other presidents before him. Question, though. What happens if President Trump uses boots on the ground? Do you see that? That trust and that confidence, that patience would fade.

[Citizen Kane]

It'll cause a massive freakout on, on X, that's for sure. I mean, you know, all of this is sort of relative, right? It's, it's, they, they've laid the groundwork. Hegseth talked about it this morning. There's 15 different ways they could use combat troops and then yet they might not need them at all. He's trying to keep the enemy guessing. But, but it's also I don't.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lose him. Oh, no. We might have lost Kane for a second. See if you guys can get him back. I want to play this. He mentioned this Jamie Dimon clip that was kind of an unexpected take on Iran, saying you got to get the job done right. 15. I think the market, you know, looks, the markets are unpredictable and it's hard to, for me to tell you exactly what but I think they're just looking at, is there a chance something can go wrong now? We should all hope nothing goes wrong. We should all hope that these bad people are, you know, that we win this thing and clean up the straits and that Iran is no longer a threat to everybody. And. But they're, you know, the markets will be concerned until it's over. It's much more important that this be successfully completed than what the market does. Yeah. And let's play another clip while we're waiting for Kane to get back. Connected. This is Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. It seems like the misdirection here is part of the play. They want to keep the Iranians guessing. The regime guessing sought to President Trump

[Pete Hegseth]

and boots on the ground. We're not going to foreclose any option. You can't fight and win a war if you tell your adversary what you are willing to do or what you are not willing to do to include boots on the ground. Our adversary right now thinks there are 15 different ways we could come at them with boots on the ground and guess what? There are. So if we needed to, we could execute those options on behalf of the President, United States and this department. Or maybe we don't have to use them at all.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, Kane, you're back.

[Citizen Kane]

Yep.

[Charlie Kirk]

Misdirection. Is that the point?

[Citizen Kane]

Oh, sir, for sure. I mean, I'm, you know, I've. You guys have probably read the Art of War by Sun Tzu. I don't think I ever. Maybe I did read that in college. So, yeah, keep them guessing. You know, your original question was, how will the base react? And so my quick response is certain people will freak out, but I think it's going to be limited and contained. And I also think it's possible that we may not know about it in real time. It's possible that an operation can occur in 12 hours, 24 hours, and then we'll hear about it. Obviously, that changes if we're talking about occupying Carg Island. There's a lot of other things like Trump talking about wanting control over a certain amount of the. Of the Iranian oil. And that would mean probably, you know, holding the occupation of Carg Island. So there's a lot of. A lot of, you know, a lot of variables, let's put it that way. But how will the overall. The base is going to respond positively as long as there aren't a huge number of Americans deaths. I think that's really the barometer. Yeah. So go ahead.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I just, I find that interesting. So I think we've been talking about it, Blake and I, you know, yesterday I said very clearly, I don't support boots on the ground. I think, I think there has to be because Listen, once you do boots on the ground, then there's a reason to send more boots on the ground. Then lives are on the line, casualties mount, and there's always. Yes, there's always going to be an excuse to expand the operation where there's always gonna be, well, we're this committed. We're this pot committed. Keep. Keep putting more troops in. Well, we gotta get. If we just. If we do a little bit of a surge over here, then we're gonna be able to get this. So listen, I hear Jamie Dimon's point, and I sort of agree at some level. Right. If you're gonna do this, the die has already been cast. Get the job done.

[Citizen Kane]

Right.

[Charlie Kirk]

I understand that. When you go boots on the ground, that's another level. You're saying that the vibe from the base, as you're perceiving it at Citizen Free Press is that you think that they will continue extending patience for the president, trust in the president, so long as the casualties don't match amount. That's actually the dividing line that you are perceiving.

[Citizen Kane]

Well, that's the one thing you can't really argue against if you're trying to say, give the President time. Give the President time. And then someone says, well, there's 100 deaths. Like, that's a very difficult thing to argue. To say that 100Americans should have lost their lives in this war. I'm against boots on the ground as well. I think the boots on the ground ought to be somehow an Iranian force and. Or a Gulf nation force. I mean, if.

[Charlie Kirk]

Or let the Israelis lead the charge if they want to do that.

[Citizen Kane]

Yeah, all of that. Look, I certainly don't think we should take Carg island just so that we end up with control of a certain percentage of Iranian oil. Like that's not a good enough reason. I think the whole point of this is get rid of their ballistic missiles, get rid of their uranium, and if you can, if you're lucky, allow for a regime change where the theocracy is gone. You know, getting Iranian oil is not the fourth pillar of this thing, and that shouldn't be the reason for truth. But. But when you ask how the base. I feel like deaths are really going to be the thing. If, you know, we'll see it's there. I would say it's at least a 50, 50 chance that we are going to have boots on the ground. So we're going to find out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, any thoughts on that?

[Blake]

I mean, I think. I think he's correct. I think the base has clearly shown they're willing to trust President Trump. But I think who was it just the other day who argued, the support is there, but it's soft, it's soft, it's thin support those Knowles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not, I don't think it's the sort of thing that will survive a really severe stress test. And if it's, if it starts to be hundreds of casualties or if there starts to be really serious economic consequences as a side effect of this, I just think a lot of people are going to say I support getting on now. They might even say, I support the president's strategy while also saying end the war immediately.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Kane, do you feel any consternation because he's now talking about France and the UK how they haven't been helping us and, you know, they can come get their own jet fuel, they can come get their own oil. You know, some are reading that as like an end to the American empire, end to the global world order as we've known it. Other people are like, screw these European people because they're, they're weak and they're feckless and they're useless. What, what are, what do you think the base is perceiving that as though

[Citizen Kane]

I would say that the latter, that those were some funny comments from Trump. I mean, we all can sort of tell when he's being tongue in cheek and when he's being completely serious. And there was definitely some sarc sarcasm there. But it's nice, you know, it's nice for a president to have, like, have no concern for norms of communication and just sort of speak the way he does. I, you know, going back to the boots on the ground thing you had, even Lindsey Graham, I haven't put it in the stack yet. But he's got that quote out there. Yeah, he's got that quote out there saying that we ought to, we ought to get close to wrapping this thing up. So I think you're going to see a lot of pressure and I think Trump knows it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Citizen Kane, Citizen Free Press. Great job as always, my friend. We'll have you on again soon. Be well. Check out cfp. We'll be right back. Hour two.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The war in Iran has gas prices at $4 a gallon nationally and oil prices are hovering around the $123 a barrel mark those prices leading to other economic headaches as well. It begs the question, when will the Fed cut interest rates yet again? Let's bring in Birch Gold Group precious metals specialist Philip Patrick to give us some more perspective. Philip, good morning.

[Philip Patrick]

Good morning, Terry.

[Terrence Bates]

So I guess the big question here, why hasn't the Fed started to cut interest rates?

[Philip Patrick]

It's a good question. I think they're dealing with two opposing dangers at the same time at the moment. They got higher inflation from the oil shocks and slower growth on the back of households and businesses absorbing those higher costs and slowing down spending. And Powell's basically admitted the same thing. He's saying nobody can, can has been able to successfully predict the economy, which I think means the Fed, at least at this point, don't have a clean solution yet. And it's a tough one for them to fix. Inflation is spiking because of oil prices, right? It's disruption, it's energy prices. So it's not as, as if the Fed can just play with interest rates and fix the issue. It's out of their control. But at the same time they just can't ignore it either. As you mentioned in the open Brent crude is hovering around the 110, $120 range, which has an effect across the entire economy. So this is a really tough position for the Fed and I think at least for now they're going to be in a wait and see posture.

[Terrence Bates]

And I would imagine consumer sentiment is over also playing a factor here.

[Philip Patrick]

It's a huge factor. Consumer sentiment is falling very fast right now. It dropped to about 53.3 in March, which tells us this isn't a sort of partisan psychology. This is a genuine cost of living reaction. Gasoline I think is obviously the clearest advantage. The national average has risen about a dollar to almost $4 a gallon, about 398 right now. And that hits harder than economists like to admit. Energy is a psychological price, but it affects everything across the economy. And when psychology changes, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. People spend less and that essentially snowballs and has recessionary effects. So this is why higher energy prices create this stagflationary fear. Inflation up, economy down. It's a tough environment to navigate.

[Terrence Bates]

You used the word recession or recessionary. Is that a real opportunity for us or is that something that really could happen in this given environment?

[Philip Patrick]

Look, it's feeling more and more like it. I think everybody needs to watch what happens with this military action. The longer it stays on, the more protracted it is. I think the higher the chances we see recession. We've got to remember, remember as I mentioned earlier, oil has huge effects on the economy. They say for every $10 increase in the price of oil, it can negatively affect GDP by a quarter point and fuel inflation by 0.3%. We've seen about a sixty dollar increase in the price of oil from the lows just a month or so ago. So like I said, the longer this thing stays, stays in play, I think the bigger effect it's going to have on the economy and I think we have a real chance of recession as well.

[Terrence Bates]

Which brings us back to what you and I often talk about. How do you hedge in this sort of environment? And gold comes to mind.

[Philip Patrick]

Look, this is the perfect storm for precious metals. I mean it has been for a while. We've seen a dip in prices recently which really isn't uncommon. We saw the same thing in 08. We saw a dip 30% drop in gold prices before it went on to double in value. What we've seen with this Iran war is short term people have moved to cash. We saw some dollar strengthening which drove the price of gold down. However, it's pretty clear they're not staying in cash for long. We saw borrowing rates so the longer term currency hold on Treasuries actually increased which, which tells us people are looking at cash as a short term position and I think metals will start to move aggressively and I think what we've seen with this dip constitutes a very strong buying opportunity for people.

[Terrence Bates]

Fellow Patrick of the Birch Gold Group. Always good to see you my friend. Appreciate the information. All the information that you need to contact the Birch Gold Group is right there at the bottom of your scre.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. There's so much, so much going on but, and, and obviously we had a, got a massive response from you in the inbox freedom. Charliekirk.com from hour one. So keep giving us your feedback about Daily Mail, about Iran. We want to hear about it. But right now I want to kind of change gears here and I want to bring on Ellie Hirsch. She is the Brightcore senior health advisor. So what is Bright Core? They have a bunch of these products, supplements, whatever that help deal with your gut with microplastics and so much more. There's a lot of reasons this ties in. We got the whole Maha crowd. Maha is a complete, completely different part of the coalition and we need to be talking about Maha. We need to be talking about making our food healthier, making our bodies healthier. If we're going to keep the coalition together. I'm just going to be honest, we're not doing a good enough job about that. So that's why I wanted to bring on Ellie. Ellie Hirsch, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Ellie Hirsch]

Thank you for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely. So I am very passionate about maha. Charlie was very passionate about Maha. Make America healthy again. And so this is. This was this. This product you guys have. And Blake was all into it, and I was like, we got to do this. So Blake went to Korea with Charlie, and apparently all they did was eat.

[Blake]

All they eat. All they eat is pickled vegetables. Pickled vegetables go to East Asia.

[Ellie Hirsch]

It's their staple.

[Blake]

Every single vegetable, they pickle it, and they eat it at every single meal.

[Charlie Kirk]

And apparently they're so healthy because of it, which is frustrating because I eat zero pickled anything. I actually don't like the taste. But then I was talking to Kathleen.

[Blake]

What's wrong with you?

[Charlie Kirk]

Who. Yeah, so Kathleen was like, this stuff. This. This thing is actually really intense. So why don't you just, like, start there? Like, microbiome, microplastics, give us the whole, like, pitch.

[Ellie Hirsch]

Yeah, it's a lot to cover for. Sure. I really want to start, though, with what's happening in the world right now and how it's affecting our bodies and how kimchi is solving the problem. So you. So we're talking about.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a big statement. Just for the record, when you hear that kimchi is solving somebody's problem, solving all the problems, it doesn't naturally follow. But I've actually become convinced this is true. It's why we're here. So continue.

[Ellie Hirsch]

Yes, yes, I am proof. Our customers are proof. I'm telling you, and we'll get to that in a little bit, that kimchi is the answer to a lot of these things. And, you know, war, things like that, that are happening around us, okay? It's affecting everybody. Okay. Obviously, it's affecting our soldiers and people on the other side of the world, okay? And war, we know this. It hurts everybody, right? And what's happening is bombs and fires and destroyed buildings and vehicles and damaged factories. They're releasing dirty smoke, toxic chemicals, heavy metals, tiny plastic particles in the air, water, and soil. So I want to start there because it's what reality is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, Ellie, I was looking this up. So this is actually true. And by the way, even if it wasn't a war, it's like China's doing this all the time anyways, just through their factories. But this goes up to the upper atmosphere, the higher levels of the atmosphere, and then it travels all around the world. So even though we are so far removed from what's happening in Iran, this stuff actually affects the entirety of the population on planet Earth.

[Selena Zito]

Correct.

[Ellie Hirsch]

So no matter where you live, these microplastics and toxins, they are having a significant impact, negative impact on your health. And for those who may not know what microplastics are, I think we all do. But they're tiny plastic particles that form when larger plastic items break down because there's sunlight, there's heat, there's friction. Right. And they are found everywhere. Our oceans, rivers, soil, food, drinking water. We're breathing it in. It's in our air. And because they're so small, Andrew, they are able to easily move through the food chain and enter the bloodstream. And our organs, they're absorbed, they're ingested, and they're inhaled. Every time we take a breath, we are inhaling microplastics. And I have a couple of really scary statistics here. So did you know that microplastics are found in 94% of US drinking water? Okay. And for those who would have assumed

[Charlie Kirk]

it was 100%, I just assume I'm swimming in a sea of microplastics at this point.

[Ellie Hirsch]

You are. You are, basically. And even if you're a bottled water drinker, which, you know, people aren't because of the plastic, 80 to 93% of bottled water globally. And, you know, I don't know if you're a meat eater, a seafood lover, or maybe you're a vegetarian and you have other protein sources, but 88% of our meat.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Definitely not a vegetarian. Definitely not a vegetarian. So I'm getting lots of plastics. Okay. But here's the. You're telling me that Kim. So this is. Okay, you have to. I want the audience to fully appreciate this. I am the chief of skeptics here. I mean, Blake, slightly skeptics here calls everything woo woo. But then, like. But then you see Koreans, and all they do is eat kimchi. And so. Yeah, and apparently there's, like, kimchi.

[Blake]

They are very fit people. They're very healthy people. They all seem to live to be 100 years old.

[Charlie Kirk]

But kimchi. Exactly. Kimchi is actually this, like, crazy, like, superfood. And I had. You guys had to prove this to me kind of extensively because I didn't believe it, but okay. Because I get probiotics through, like, yogurt. Right. Compare yogurt to a kimchi just like this. This was like. There's some stats here that kind of blow your mind when you realize kimchi is legitimately this crazy probiotic food.

[Selena Zito]

Yeah.

[Ellie Hirsch]

So, I mean, probiotics are great. You know, there's so many on the market, whether you're eating it through yogurt or what have. But do we really know what's in it? Okay, we don't. And so the reason why I'm sort of backtracking, going through all these scary statistics is because, you know, people like you and me kind of know these statistics, but a lot of people don't. And I don't wanna scare people, but I wanna present the facts and then show how Kim Chee and all the studies to back it up. Your viewers will leave this and say, oh my God, like, I need to get this now. Okay, I take the product, we'll talk about what that product is. But and going back to your comment on the Korean staple diet, did you know that Koreans live six years longer because they are eating kimchi? And we all know about glass skin, right, and how beautiful they are. And it's because of this fermented food. So, you know, there are a lot of things that are going on inside our bodies right now because of these plastics. So early onset dementia, Alzheimer's disease, mental health issues, okay? 9 out of 10 prostate cancer tissue samples have microplastics in it, okay? They cause oxidative stress, they alter our DNA, so it increases our risk for developing cancer. And, you know, people with microplastic plaque in their veins and arteries, 4.5 times more likely to die from a heart attack, okay? So they hormone metabolism, obesity, energy levels, bone density, muscle mass, this is what we're dealing with. So when I share with you what we're solving and how we solve it, you know how scary and how truthful this is, right? So there's just a rapid rise in plastic production and consumption. It's a profit driven industry. You can't avoid it. Some people say, oh, I don't drink, you know, out of plastic bottles, I don't use plastic containers, I'm not really wearing polyester and blah, blah, blah. But the truth is, is they are everywhere. And limiting the use of plastic is not enough. It'll never be enough. So we must take active steps, right, to remove these toxins, including pesticides, from the body before it does irreversible damage. And so to get to your point, our first line of defense is your gut microbiome. The gut microbiome is so important for your overall health, right? It's having that balance of good and bad bacteria and it actually determines the health of your entire body. So the gut microbiome, you know, it's the ecosystem, right? Of all the microbes that live in your intestines.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ellie, I'm leave. We're going to take you to the next segment. But kimchi contains over 900 strains of beneficial bacteria that keep your gut in balance. Like the yogurt I eat is like nine strains. So, like, it's crazy to hold that. It's like a good cliffhanger because this stuff is like, really could change your life and it's really important. I want to tell you guys quickly about blackout coffee. Morning Reaper. Got it right here. Blake makes fun of me, but every day they all have these insane names, but it's great. Morning Reaper. It's. I think it's red. All right, so blackoutcoffee.com Charlie, if you want to get yours today. And this is an amazing American company, there's no, you know, burnt coffee taste. There's no global corporation. There's no like bat. These are just patriots that, that make great coffee. Okay. Blackout Coffee.com Charlie. Use code Charlie for 20 off at checkout on your first order. BlackoutCoffee.com we'll be right back.

[Citizen Kane]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back. No, I. Paula on our team says fun fact. Consuming hot beverages from disposable paper cups results in the ingestion of thousands of microplastic particles and associated chemicals. Starbucks paper hot cups or any. It doesn't have to be Starbucks. It could be any of the ones. I mean, got them in the here at the office. These blank ones and plastic cold cups can leach thousands of microplastic particles and plasticizer chemicals into beverages. Basically, the long story short is you can. This is like a huge issue in modern living. And that's why we want to call attention to it because. Yeah. Scientists found microplastics in 9 out of 10 prostate cancer tissue samples. Like, we know something is happening in our modern environment. Blake thinks it's all woo woo, science, a lot of it, but, you know, but microplastics, it's. We know something's changing. We know something's changing in our environment. And whether it's war or it's factories in China or what we're doing here, how we're consuming our food, I mean, they used to deliver milk to your front door in glass bottles and then they would pick them up. We don't do that kind of stuff. They come in plastic all the time. So I think this is really key. And like, by the way, Ellie Hirsch, we're joined senior health advisor from Bright Core. There's this document that I have here and I just wanna rat. I know I don't wanna do your job for you. I'm sorry, but it's crazy. It's like studies show that eating kimchi every day for 12 weeks can do far more than improve gut health. It can train your immune system smarter. That's from nature. Cancer preventive potential of kimchi lactic acid bacteria. That's from the National Library of Science. Bioactive chemicals and kimchi improve cognitive and memory function. Kimchi linked to enhanced immune function improved gut like it's. Kimchi reduces body fat by 31.8% in pre clinical study. That's from Science and Tech. Daily anti aging effects of kimchi like. So I want to.

[Blake]

I guess a natural question to ask is what can you get from what we're talking about here that you can't just get by going to the store and buy or just going to H Smart down the street here in Phoenix and buying a case of kimchi which probably does come in a plastic container.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'll be really honest. So after I talked with these guys, sorry, you're going to your next Sally, I promise. I tried kimchi and I can't eat it. I do not like the taste of it. What's wrong with you? I cannot eat. It's, it's. It gives me the gag reflex. Sorry.

[Ellie Hirsch]

A lot of people don't love it or like it because it's not a staple in the American diet, right? But you can go into the supermarket and buy it. You're going to get a lot of salt intake and you'd have to eat quite a bit to get out of it. What you can really get out of it. And you know, you've talked about a bunch of studies and I think what's important to point out is that kimchi can actually eliminate and extract microplastics from the body. That's what I want people to get out of this. Studies have proven it. Researchers have proven it. And you know, there's certain strains that it has, you know, we talked about, has 900 unique strains of bacteria. Sauerkraut only has, I think, what, 18 or something. So it is huge, right? And you know another strain, Bacillus pumulus, right. It degrades bpa, which is the most toxic chemical in plastics. And the reason it's effective, Andrew, is because of the direct impact on the gut microbiome. It's antiviral, antifungal, anti parasitic, antibacterial. And that's why there are so many health benefits. And that's why we have created this amazing product and we know it works Kimchi1 is a daily capsule that we've created. And whether you like the taste or not, you can't eat it every day. Right. But now you can. It's. We use a cold process drying method. It retains all the fiber, all the nutrition, low in sodium, like the store bought, 100% made in the U.S. all natural, non GMO. And I know it works because A, I take it and B, the success stories from our customers. And we love talking to our customers. Digestion regularity no longer a problem. Immune system. Right. 70 to 80% of our immune system is housed in our gut. They're not sick anymore. Diabetes, sugar levels, high cholesterol, they're no longer taking antibiotics. That's why we created this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And we'll. And we'll flash the graphic in just a second because. So I just want to reiterate, I am like the hardest sell on this stuff and. But I read this article, I think it was from the Atlantic. My mom sent it to me a few years ago and it came up in this whole conversation with Bright Core. So the premise was why your dad could eat a Big Mac in the 80s and not gain any weight and why you now in 2020 when the article was written, can't. And the whole point was your microbiome, like your gut health. So your dad had better gut health than you because of the quality of the food. Our food quality has deteriorated and all this stuff. So you just have like a crappy gut. And this is why a lot of people gain weight when they eat the same things your dad did back in or the food quality. So I was really like fascinated by this because I think, I think and I have a doctor that's like really into gut health. He thinks it's like the root of all health basically in your body.

[Ellie Hirsch]

It is.

[Charlie Kirk]

So like, if you got all these plastics, your food sucks. We can't. Nobody can police it all the time because we have to. We're on the road. We have to eat what we eat. And you know, you can't, you know, it's just not as good for you as it was in the 80s and 70s or whatever. We should address that. It's part of Maha is addressing the food quality and the plastics in our food and all this stuff. But if you can't get to it, it's like you can't fix it all. Then you need something to like supplement this and take care of it. So I think it's phenomenal. By the way, Kathleen, who's on our team, she was taking this. And she was like, the. Her body's reaction to this was immediate. Like, you know how some supplements, you,

[Blake]

like, take them as in the next day or like the next minute?

[Selena Zito]

The.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, like the next day or two. But it was. But you know how like, sometimes you're like, I think it's working. This is not one of the. I'm not sure if it's working.

[Ellie Hirsch]

This works, Andrew. I'm telling you, I take it myself. And I have to be honest with you. I am turning 50 in two months. And I truly believe the health on the inside is reflected on the outside. And it's things like Kimchi Won and other things that, you know, collagen supplements that they offer at Brightcore. It's just unbelievable. And they work. And the proof is in the pudd.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right? So let's. Let's throw this up. Ellie. The. We got this graphic. So we got a special offer for our audience. You can get 25% off brightcore.com Charlie. Thanks for making this for us, by the way. Or you can call 888-317-9258 brightcore.com Charlie get 25% off. So that's awesome.

[Ellie Hirsch]

But you know what?

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm actually, like, legitimately a believer in this stuff. Okay, what's that for?

[Ellie Hirsch]

Sure, I was going to say that, you know, you can go online and get your 25% off, which is great. But I would advise you call because, like you said, you get up to 50% off free shipping. And the first 100 callers gets another one of our products, which is a free bottle of vitamin D3 plus K2, which is fantastic. And that number is 888-317-9258. We also donate a portion of all of our proceeds to Wounded Warrior Project because we really want to show our support for the troops who fight for our freedom every day. We appreciate all the sacrifices they make, and we love to talk to. I mean, that's the feedback we get. So please call. We want to take your health journey with you. Want to make sure this is the right product for you. And that's 888-317-9258.

[Charlie Kirk]

Awesome. Ellie Hirsch, Senior health advisor. Great stuff. Legitimately. I think it's really important stuff, actually. So that's why we wanted to do this. Thank you for making the time. We appreciate it so much.

[Blake]

Sure.

[Ellie Hirsch]

Thanks for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. You need to get your gut health in. In line.

[Blake]

Gotta get it in.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, you, you know, wait me specifically. What's wrong with that guy? No, he doesn't.

[Citizen Kane]

He's.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's fine.

[Blake]

I eat. I actually eat kimchi.

[Charlie Kirk]

I know I do. I can't eat it. I tried it, but I could do the capsule. We'll be back right back with Selena Zito talking about a faith surge with Gen Z. Be.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The White House is continuing to push Congress to fund the Department of Homeland Security. The current DHS shutdown is now the longest in American history. On Monday, the White House called vacationing lawmakers in the House and Senate it to task, particularly Democrats.

[Selena Zito]

Democrats are holding our entire country hostage, picking and choosing which programs and agencies they want to fund just because they don't like this administration's policies. That's not how it's supposed to work. They voted seven times against funding DHS over partisan and political reasons. And so again, the president has stepped in to do the right thing at this moment in time. But the president is also encouraging Congress to come back to Washington to permanently fix this problem and to fund and reopen the Department of Homeland Security entirely.

[Terrence Bates]

Meantime, Palm Beach Airport in Palm Beach, Florida is now officially Donald J. Trump International Airport. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed legislation on Monday renaming the airport in honor of the 45th and 47th president who's nearby Mar A Lago resort is the Trump family's home away from the White House. Florida Republicans fought to rebrand the airport, saying it's a fitting way to recognize President Trump as the first president to reside in Florida. The cost of the rebranding, which will include airport signage and website updates, is estimated to cost between 2.75 million and $5.5 million. The Trump Organization says the president and his family will not receive royalties, licensing fees or financial consideration from the airport renaming. However, the family has filed trademark applications for djt, which of course could be the airport's new code, along with Donald J. Trump International Airport and President Donald J. Trump International Airport. Well, we now finally know who President Trump and his team have been negotiating with inside Iran. 47 says it's the country's parliamentary speaker who has been vehemently denying any ongoing talks. He's even threatened American soldiers saying, quote, waiting for the arrival of American troops on the ground to set them on fire and punish their regional partners forever. That's a quick check of your head.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fact first American America first. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. All right. Welcome back. We're about to be joined by Selena Zito. She's the best selling author of Butler about President Trump's assassination. And she's a Washington examiner columnist. She is fantastic. We've had her on before and she's documenting this huge surge in faith among Gen Z. We're going to talk to her about it in just a second. First, I want to tell you about good ranchers. It's 250America. It's our 250th birthday and you want to support companies that are supporting this country and America's ranchers, namely goodranchers.com American meat delivered are amazing people. Ben and Corly Spell who run the company are great Christians. They're devoted parents and family. Great, great family. And they've built this business and we've watched it from the beginning to now and it is truly an amazing company and we support them and wholeheartedly. You can subscribe, get your meat delivered every single week, every month, however often you want it. And they'll include with promo code [e-mail] A free cut of meat that you can choose and it'll be there for the rest of rest of time as long as you keep ordering the subscription and you'll get 25 off your first subscription. So check it out. Goodranchers.com American meat delivered. We love these guys. No antibiotics, none of that junk. It's just, just American meat right at your door. All right, Selena, Zita, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's so good to have you. You have a new piece in the Washington examiner talking about this surge of faith among Gen Z. And I thought with all this like heavy news from this Daily Mail headline about, you know, with Charlie's story. The other part of Charlie's story that we cannot lose touch with, we can't lose sight of is that that it birthed this revival that we've seen with young people. And I think the question a lot of us had was did it stop? And your reporting is basically no, it hasn't. It's continuing to go. Please tell us about it.

[Selena Zito]

No, it hasn't. It hasn't at all. And I've written about this several times. This isn't the first time I've written about it began with the. I noticed it first of all in my own parish, I'm Catholic. The week after the Sunday after Charlie was killed, my church was jam packed. And that hasn't stopped now at that point you could still get a Pusey. Well, not anymore. You have to. I'm always notoriously just running into mass when the bells are ringing and I'm Almost always standing. But it's also happening among evangelical Christians. It's not just Catholics. The day after, no, the day Charlie was shot, these young people gathered at this. At this church in the city of Pittsburgh in kind of a dodgy neighborhood. And they came by the busload of public transportation. They walked from colleges all around Pittsburgh. There's eight colleges in Pittsburgh. And they needed to feel something right. They needed to be part of something bigger than self. He is someone that could motivate them, motivated them. I talked to a lot of these young people in the lead up to the 2024 election, and they talked about how Charlie brought them to understanding why that election was so important and why their voice was so important and their belief in God was so important. And so that happened the first day after Charlie was killed, happened again the following Sunday, continued to happen so much that the football team at the University of Pittsburgh, led by the captain of the football team who bought Jake Overton, who by the way, is going to be in the draft in Pittsburgh in a couple of weeks, and he led this thing called Pit Purpose. And they showed up at the Cathedral of Learning at the University of Pittsburgh, if anyone's familiar with it. It's a beautiful structure. And There were about 600 kids there and there were about 100 baptism. And the movement continued to grow and it led to what happened last Thursday. I think it was Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday, I can't remember. There are 5,000 kids that filled the Peterson Event Center. And it wasn't just kids, it was families. There were people of all ages, but it was predominantly youth driven college students, but also young families with young kids. And there were over. I forget how many hundreds of baptisms done in pickup trucks, which was my favorite part. But it was just. It's not something that's going away. And it's really interesting to me to watch my profession not understand how to cover it. Right. They don't understand how to grasp this growth and this movement. But it's not just in Protestant evangelical churches, it's in the Catholic Church. My diocese alone, there will be 200 people baptized this week during Holy Week. And that is significant.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so I want everybody to just grasp what you said, the contrast. So the week Charlie's killed, you had 5, 600 people, about 100 baptisms. Just last Wednesday or Thursday, this event center had 5,6000 young people and hundreds of baptisms getting baptized in pickup trucks. And I just hope people are grasping this. And I've said this to so many people that felt bad for Me with some of the conspiracy stuff or whatever we're going through just losing Charlie, which, yeah, I get it, and it's awful. But what I always say to them is what God has unleashed, man cannot stop. And if God's ultimate purpose here is to unleash a tidal wave of young people coming into faith in Jesus Christ, then so be it. I will suffer every single day. Charlie suffered greater than any of us. I will, I will, I will walk through this day in and day out, taking the punches as they come. The Daily Mails was just the latest because what God is doing, he is doing a work in this country and he's doing it in Gen Z. He's doing it with young families and it's so awesome. And I, and I like, when I saw this story, you know, you could attest, as soon as you sent this to me, I was like, you need to come on today. And like, we need to talk about this.

[Selena Zito]

Yeah, we see a lot of young families too, not just Gen Z. We see, you know, I see a lot of millennials there with multiple children, three, four, five kids in the pew and the priest every Sunday. It never fails. We have a younger priest in my parish, Soul country, parish church. But he always says, don't anybody be offended by the sound of the noise of children because there goes our future. This is our future. We need to welcome these children and these families and we need to welcome them into our hearts and show patience. And that's a beautiful thing because a lot of parents, when their kids are young, it's, I remember it's not fun to always go to mass every Sunday because you don't know what the two year old's gonna do. Right? But, but it is, it is, it's across denominations and I think that's really, really important.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and you included this in your piece, Selena. You said Ryan Berg or Burge, the research director at My Faith Counts, a non profit, non denominational organization, noted that new data showed that the share of Americans who are non religious has dropped for the third straight year in a row with atheists and agnostics down to 5% each. So I mean, this is an amazing trend that started, frankly, when Charlie was still with us. And I think his assassination lit that spark and poured fuel in the fire. And I was just so encouraged because I think it is the answer to the question a lot of us have, is it still going? Is it still building? And this, this is such an important data set that you've presented and anecdotes and stories of how this movement of God is still growing in the country. Blake, you're Catholic, so I want to make sure I make.

[Blake]

Well, it's. I mean, it's. You know, the New York times, they call 12 diocese. All of them have more catechumens than they had the year before. I know. I heard about this from my parents. I think there were 50 people in the RCIA class in Sioux Falls. That's not a huge city. And you see all these anecdotes, and I know there's some pushback. I think even Burge has pushed back on that, where he says, if you look at big surveys, they don't show a big surge. If anything, they do show either flatline or the decline is still ongoing. And so I'd actually like to touch into that what. What could be going on where maybe we are seeing a general. Like, we might be seeing the kernel of a big revival, where people who are really on the ball, people who have high agencies, they're embracing faith. And what we're seeing is something that will really explode in the months, in the years, in the decades to come.

[Charlie Kirk]

Interesting.

[Blake]

And I think that'd be an interesting thing to talk about.

[Selena Zito]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, a lot of. A lot of. Here's the thing about data and people responding to it. They don't always respond to it truthfully or. They always look at data. Sometimes it's with skepticism. We've seen that in polling with politics. I don't think religion is much different. Right. And so what you see is the contrast, what Ryan is talking about, where they're. You know, it seems as though there's a decline, but then you see 200 baptisms in a western Pennsylvania, not even in Pittsburgh. It's outside of Pittsburgh. It's in the rural country park. Right. And you see that grows, and it tells you they might not tell a statistician about their faith. Sometimes people think faith is something very private, but they're still get there. They're coming, they're getting baptized. You know, I saw it at the Peterson Event Center. Pastor Howard is amazing. I see it in my own parish every week. We didn't have these kinds of numbers last year at this time. You could sit anywhere you wanted in the pew. Now you squeeze into the choir loft or you stand on the sides, but there.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And Selena. Yeah. And there is anecdotal evidence, a lot of it. I do think it's showing up in some data as well. Let's go ahead and play Kayleigh McEnany. She's touching on this in February, SOT

[Ellie Hirsch]

16 of the day, a surprising revival in religion underway right now for the first time in decades. Research suggests that the decline of Christianity in the US has now slowed down and may have actually leveled off. And the return to religion is trending among Gen Z men and those with higher education.

[Selena Zito]

Now.

[Ellie Hirsch]

The reason, according to a new report from Chapman University center for Demographics and Policy, is this quote. Many young men report feeling culturally dislocated or villainized by progressive secular discourse regarding masculinity. Traditional forms of Christianity, particularly Catholicism and orthodoxy, offer a narrative of responsibility, sacrifice and hierarchy that appeals to men seeking a defined role in a fluid world.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll continue on more with Selena Zito on the other side of this break. We're going to talk about the NBA too, Selena, because that we got to hit that story. It's lots, lots going on with the Chicago Bulls. We'll be right back with Selena Zito. I want to tell you guys about strong cell yet. Yes, it does encourage hair growth. We have confirmed this, the, what do they call it, the collagen in it, the marine collagen. And it does but what it mostly does, nadh is the power source for the cells in your body. You need it. If you have brain fog, chronic fatigue, chronic illness, give it a couple of weeks, four to six weeks, you'll notice a huge, huge impact. And what's best about this is that right now they are offering a 90 day risk free money back guarantee. So check out strongcell.com, use promo code Charlie. It was one of Charlie's favorite supplements. That's why we brought him back. And I actually talked to the guys yesterday. Blake talked to him too. And really amazing guys and they, they just love this audience. So please give them a shot. StrongCell.com promo code CHARLIE for 20% off your checkout, we'll.

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All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, we got to get to this Jaden Ivy story because it's all over social media. It so Jaden Javen Ivy is a Jaden is it? Okay, we got a, got a letter mis transposed here. So Jaden Ivy is a, was a player with the Chicago Bulls. He has been waved, meaning released from the team because of his Christian faith and his stance, specifically criticizing the LGBTQ Pride month that the NBA celebrates. So let's get him in his own words and talk about it. Sat 7 All I'm preaching is about

[Jaden Ivy]

Jesus Christ and they, they waive me. They say, they say I'm crazy, right? I'm Psycho. That don't add up. That's not adding up. Right? God let these happen. God, like God let these things happen for a reason. His will be done. May his will be done. Not my will. My will is done. When I came into the league, all I wanted to do was win championships and. And give millions of bucks until the Lord showed me, what good is it to gain the world your forfeiture?

[Charlie Kirk]

So what good is it?

[Jaden Ivy]

What good is it to not. To not follow the Lord, to not obey his commandments?

[Charlie Kirk]

Pretty strong. Pretty strong stuff. Welcome back. Selena Zito, Washington examiner reporter, author of Butler about the Trump assassination plot. So, Selena, obviously, this is the big news story today. It seems, though, in the NBA, you could do just about every terrible, other terrible thing imaginable. Gun charges, murder charges, drug charges, and you get left back on the team. But criticizing the lgbtq plus, Iowa, whatever, Pride Month, is against the rules. Your take.

[Selena Zito]

Oh, you know, I. This is part of the problem that people have with our cultural curators, right? People and corporations, institutions and national sports organizations is that there's. There's two different rules. One is it is you can abstain from, you know, standing for the national anthem. Right. But you can't. And that's okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Selena Zito]

And you can have some pretty strong, nasty things to say about people that are conservative or have faith. But if you profess something about your faith, and you are a Christian,

[Charlie Kirk]

you're

[Selena Zito]

suspended, you are a non. You're not wanted, you're not allowed to be part of this. We can't see this because these institutions do not know how to process faith. They don't understand people that have faith, and therefore they need to shun them as opposed to being welcoming. I think one of the things that's really important about diversity. Right. Cultural curators always talk about diversity, but they don't really talk about cultural diversity. They don't really talk about people of faith. They're people that sit in a pew every Sunday, people that say a rosary. Right. They aren't allowed to be part of their institution.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well. And they're calling him crazy. That's the thing. I mean, he's definitely radical about his faithful. Yeah. But, yeah, I find this. I mean, maybe he is. I don't know if he's got a screw. I don't see that. I think he's. From what I can tell from the video, he's preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, unashamed. Blake.

[Selena Zito]

Yeah.

[Blake]

I mean, so it looks to me, and it's like, I just think of all the players they have in the NBA. And if you followed it even mildly. I'm not known for being a big basketball fan, but there's NBA players getting in trouble for actually objectively bad stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

Strangulation.

[Blake]

Oh, yeah. You know, so Latrell Spiral, I believe, strangled his coach. He got suspended, but came back, run our test, assaulted a fan in the stands, got suspended by, but came back, had a long career. Jason Kidd, domestic violence, I believe, pleaded guilty to, had a dui. He's been an NBA legend. He's been around forever. And I'm not even saying like, Jason Kidd needs to be banished from the league, but if you're going to banish a guy for making an Instagram where he doesn't like Pride Month, I think it would make sense to have standards

[Charlie Kirk]

on those sorts of things. Right.

[Selena Zito]

You know, and it's really an odd line for them to draw because we see so much with our athletes. An expression of faith in this country. I don't know if you guys saw this last. Last year. No. The end of the beginning of the year when the Pittsburgh Steelers were in the playoffs and they have a priest that comes and blesses the field every week. Right. And it's a very Catholic organization. The new coach today said about faith. I got to read this quote to you because it's awesome. Mike McCarthy said, I am aware of that. He said, this is a Catholic operation. You say three Hail Marys and everybody has a clean slate and let's go to work. Right. So there's a lot of organizations that embrace faith. So I'm not quite sure what's going on with the NBA. I'm not an NBA fan. I haven't watched them since Michael Jordan. So, you know, I don't know what's going on there.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, I mean, it's wild. It's wild. Like our team put composed or comprised a list of all the different, you know, substance abuses, gun charges, drug related felonies, domestic abuse, domestic violence, assault cases. And it's really wild.

[Blake]

And we shouldn't forget this is the league that, that most has like, most prostrated itself before China, for example, where they've just overtly fired people because they've said things critical of the Chinese government. A foreign authoritarian regime in rivalry with the United States. I think the NBA leaned hardest into 2020, into woke stuff. I think. I just think it's, it's the most aggravating league. It's the most off putting one. It's the one most hostile to Americans, which is why people shouldn't watch Pro basketball. That's my pitch to everyone. I'm not a big basketball fan.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And I guess there's clips have surfaced amid this controversy with this LGBTQ stuff with Ivy. Some people have clipped it and shared these clips as though he was admitting to being an abuser, some sort of thing. And the context from the clip, he frames it as emotional verbal patterns tied to his own trauma and anger in his heart. Not a. There's repeated physical beatings or something like that. No criminal record for domestic violence appears in any reporting. He has a wife and kids and speaks positively about her.

[Blake]

Yeah. It's so clearly, it's a. It's a guy doing faith testimony. And so, you know, it's almost certainly, like, vastly more mild than all this criminal stuff that passes. Raised his voice to her.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And by the way, he's also said, like, the old Jaden Ivy is gone. I'm a new creation in Christ. You know, he's, like, very proud about the fact that. That he has been transformed. And I just say to the NBA, if there is a team out there willing to bring this guy on, just enjoy and reap the benefits of all the jersey sales. I'm told the Bulls have already sold out his jersey, like, something crazy. 20,000 jersey sales overnight. I kind of. It's frustrating because they're getting rewarded for the jersey sales, but, like, take a chance on this guy and bring him in, because I just have a feeling like, you'll probably be blessed. Selena, Zito, God bless you. Thank you for this story of the faith revival that is continuing to grow and spread behind the headlines. Thank you for making a headline about it. It's great to see you.

[Selena Zito]

Nice to see you guys. Have a great day.

[Charlie Kirk]

You too. That's it for us. We'll see you tomorrow. I'm sure there'll be more stories to get to. Just hang tight and wait.

[Blake]

Embrace the Faith Rose Revival.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. We'll see you then.