The Charlie Kirk Show, March 4, 2026

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – March 4, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode: The Charlie Kirk Show
Date: March 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show dives into the unfolding US/Israel war with Iran, the aftermath of key Texas primary elections, and major shifts in the political landscape. Special guests include Admiral Bob Harward discussing Iran, new GOP nominee Steve Toth on Texas races, and college student leaders on the post-Kirk campus climate. The show weaves military developments with grassroots conservative reactions, election analysis, and student life, all through Kirk’s signature passionate, combative style.

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Key Themes and Discussion Points

• Iran War: US/Israel Offensive and Regime Change
• Texas Elections: The Fall of Dan Crenshaw and Senate Drama
• Campus Politics: Student Voices and Conservative Pushback
• Progressive Christianity and Identity Politics
• Conservative Movement’s Future and Populist Energy

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Segment Breakdown and Detailed Insights

I. War with Iran: Strategic Overview and Developments

US and Allied Operations (00:54–04:29)

• News of US service members killed in Kuwait, following Iranian drone and missile attacks.
• Reports of Iranian drones hitting US consulate in Dubai.
  • Charlie Kirk: "Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have an ambition to have nuclear weapons... Now is the time to go after them." [02:09]
• Justification for US/Israel offensive: “Take away their missiles, take away their navy, take away their drones...so that they can never have a nuclear weapon.” [02:25]
• Noted drop in missile strikes on Israel: from 90 to 20 in recent attacks, suggesting declining Iranian capability.

Admiral Bob Harward Analysis (28:53–38:39)

• Applauds decisive US leadership and military capability:
  • Admiral Harward: "It's just unprecedented...We’ve removed one of the axis of evil that everyone’s acknowledged for the last three or four decades. So it’s just incredible in every way." [28:53]
• On Iranian regime instability post-attacks:
  • Iran’s senior leadership “dead, missing, or cowering in bunkers—too terrified to even occupy the same room.” [30:09]
• Dismisses predictions of US running out of ammunition or getting bogged down; asserts US has overwhelming capacity and time is now on America’s side.

Regime Change, Kurds, and Civil War Concerns (34:07–47:25)

• Harward expects rapid collapse: “A nation of 90 million…is ready to hold these people accountable and act against them…this timeline can move much quicker than people realize.” [35:18]
• CIA reported to be arming Kurdish forces for opposition infiltration into Iran. Discussion of potential ethnic fragmentation if the war leads to civil unrest, referencing lessons from Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.

Significant Military Moments (41:11–42:23)

• US submarine sinks an Iranian warship, freeing up the Strait of Hormuz.
  • Blake: "First time an American submarine has done it since they were sinking Japanese ships 80 years ago...Can you imagine that crew?" [41:48]
• This aligns with President Trump’s objectives: remove Iran's Supreme Leader, dismantle their nuclear and naval capabilities.

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II. Texas Political Earthquake: Elections, Establishment Challenges, and Grassroots

Primary Results and Senate Runoff (06:39–10:03)

• Steve Toth’s upset win against Dan Crenshaw marks an establishment defeat and grassroots advance.
  • “Dan Crenshaw becomes the first incumbent House member to lose his reelection bid. So he’s done.” [06:39]
• Senate race: John Cornyn narrowly leads Ken Paxton, setting up a heated runoff.
  • Blake: “Cornyn has to be one of the Republicans who sparks the least enthusiasm among the base of his state and around the country.” [07:53]
  • Expectation Wesley Hunt’s voters shift to Paxton for the runoff.

Character and Strategy Wars (09:17–10:51)

• Cornyn’s “pro-amnesty” stance criticized.
• Paxton described as a “fighter”: “He's absolutely capable of winning the general.” [09:24]
• Democratic primary drama with Jasmine Crockett’s election fraud allegations; James Talarico (D) emerges as the new Senate candidate.

Exposing the “Moderate” Myth (11:47–14:33)

• Extended critique of James Talarico as a faux-moderate:
  • Blake: “James Talarico is not moderate. He’s just white.” [12:29]
  • Clips highlighted: Talarico says “God is non-binary” and “there are six biological sexes.” [13:19]
• Ridicule of establishment efforts to brand white, male Democrats as moderates based on identity optics.

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III. Deconstructing Progressive Christianity & Policy Positions

Talarico’s Theology Under Fire (17:13–23:34)

• Clips of Talarico’s “universalist” views: “I think of different religious traditions as different languages...but we are all talking about the same reality.” [17:13]
• Kirk attacks left-wing Christianity as ideology-over-Gospel:
  • “It’s designed...to blot out all the aspects of the faith that don’t align with the Democrat party platform.” [18:49]
  • Cites 2 Timothy 4:3-4: “...they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions...”
• Talarico’s abortion stance discussed, including his assertion that “our trans community needs abortion care too.” [20:21]
• Criticism of churches and clergy for progressive stances that allegedly undermine traditional Christianity.

Immigration Stance (22:37–23:34)

• Talarico’s “front porch” metaphor for border security—“a giant welcome mat out front and a lock on the door”—mocked as utopian and unserious.

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IV. Campus Politics After Charlie Kirk: Youth Voices and Indoctrination

Student Panel: Rutgers & App State Leaders (52:57–70:39)

• Brooke Christie (Appalachian State) & Megan Doyle (Rutgers) provide raw reports:
  • Anti-war, anti-Trump sentiment dominates campuses post-Iran war escalation.
  • Even some 2024 Trump voters wary of foreign intervention; “People really, really do not want boots on the ground.” [54:38]
• 51% Gen Z considering their college degree a waste of money.
• Indoctrination a common complaint: “We're forced to take these liberal woke classes...they're just ripping us off and making us more woke.” [60:08]

Turning Point After Charlie’s Assassination

• Student Turning Point chapters see both a surge in membership and intensified hostility from leftist peers post-Charlie Kirk assassination.
• Reports of doxxing, public insults, and aggressive backlash against conservative students.
  • Megan Doyle: “I’ve been openly insulted to my face...I’ve been doxxed, my personal identity has just been thrown into the Internet for everyone to see.” [70:10]

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V. Steve Toth Interview: Defeating the Establishment & Charting a New Texas GOP

Victory Over Dan Crenshaw & Political Vision (72:53–83:38)

• Toth describes his victory:
  • “He was 55% unfavorable in Montgomery County... We’re just overjoyed last night to see it finally nine months later come to fruition.” [74:03]
• Emphasis on restoring grassroots trust and attention to under-served districts, especially flood mitigation in Harris County.
• Warns of incoming Democratic challenger with deep pockets.

Texas GOP: Structural Problems and Future Fights

• Texas House allegedly run by a 2/3 Democrat-1/3 Republican coalition, stalling conservative reform.
  • “When I put forth legislation to secure our elections, it gets killed by the Democrats.” [80:14]
• Declares James Talarico “as evil as they come...there is a darkness to this man’s life.” [81:13]
• Predicts that John Cornyn cannot survive the runoff, regardless of establishment or presidential endorsements: “He will not win.” [82:33]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Charlie Kirk on Iran conflict:
Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics... Now is the time to go after them. The President made the decision to go after them. It was the right decision. [02:09]

Blake on Dem candidate James Talarico:
James Talarico is not moderate. He’s just white. [12:29]
The James Talarico op is an op. Do not fall for it. [13:30]

Charlie Kirk referencing progressive Christianity:
Left wing Christianity is an extraordinary intellectual exercise because you can see there, James Talarico is twisting himself into ideological and intellectual knots, trying to carve a way out for a progressive to relate to what he’s saying so that they don’t think he’s a bigot. You know, not like all us Maga Bible thumpers. [18:44]

Admiral Bob Harward on regime change:
This ideology is what’s made this whole regime so perverse. They’ve flipped that on the head and made [Jews] their enemy... The Iranian people have come to realize it’s all a lie and a facade. [35:18]

Brooke Christie on student sentiment:
People really, really do not want boots on the ground in this circumstance. [54:38]

Steve Toth on his victory:
He [Dan Crenshaw] was 55% unfavorable in Montgomery County... We’re just overjoyed last night to see it finally nine months later come to fruition. [74:03]

Steve Toth on establishment Republicans:
People want to see bold leadership. They don’t want to see people like John Cornyn that have been there, been in office for 40 some odd freaking years and hasn’t done anything. [85:49]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:54–04:29: Iranian drone attacks, US casualties, initial war commentary
• 28:53–38:39: Admiral Bob Harward on Iran war strategy and outlook
• 41:11–42:23: US submarine sinks Iranian warship—a historic moment
• 06:39–10:03: Texas primary results; Crenshaw’s defeat, Cornyn/Paxton showdown
• 11:47–14:33: “James Talarico is not moderate. He’s just white” segment
• 17:13–23:34: Dissection of progressive Christianity and Talarico’s views
• 52:57–70:39: Student panel on war, campus climate, and conservative backlash
• 72:53–83:38: Steve Toth interview: strategies, establishment critique, future outlook

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Conclusion: Tone and Takeaways

This episode blends combative conservative commentary with live war analysis, Texas political drama, and grassroots organizing in the post-Charlie Kirk era. The tone is high-energy, populist, and confrontational—mocking establishment “RINOs” and progressive Christians alike. Listeners are left with a strong sense of US military confidence, deep skepticism toward the political establishment (both left and right), and a call for bold, unapologetic conservative activism—echoed by student leaders, military guests, and rising politicians.

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Transcript

[Megan Doyle]

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[Admiral Bob Harward]

The Pentagon is releasing the names of

[Terrence Bates]

four U.S. service members who were killed Sunday in Kuwait at the port of

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Shuiva during an Unmanned Aircraft system attack.

[Charlie Kirk]

All soldiers were assigned to the 103rd

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Sustainment Command out of Des Moines, Iowa. They are Sergeant First Class Nicole Amore of White Bear Lake, Minnesota, Sergeant First Class Noah Teachens of Bellevue, Nebraska, Sergeant

[Charlie Kirk]

Declan Cody of Des Moines, Iowa, and

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Captain Cody Cork of Lakeland, Florida. Our prayers are with them and their families.

[Charlie Kirk]

You said all the people you did have in mind have been taken out. Well, most of the people we had in mind are dead, so, you know,

[Admiral Bob Harward]

we had some in mind from that

[Charlie Kirk]

group that is is dead.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

And now we have another group that may be dead also based on reports. So I guess you have a third wave coming in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pretty sure we're not going to know anybody.

[Blake]

We're following these reports out of Dubai

[Steve Toth]

that indicate an Iranian drone hit the

[Blake]

U.S. consulate in Dubai.

[Steve Toth]

We understand that the building and many

[Blake]

of these surrounding buildings had been fully or at least partially evacuated.

[Charlie Kirk]

And again, these are just initial reports coming in.

[Blake]

Fox's Jennifer Griffin also confirming that a

[Steve Toth]

hit did take place in this area.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, let me explain to you guys this in simple English, okay? Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have an ambition to have nuclear weapons. They intend to develop those nuclear weapons behind a program of missiles and drones

[Terrence Bates]

and terrorism that the world will not

[Charlie Kirk]

be able to touch them for fear of those things. And this is the weakest they've ever been. Now is the time to go after them. The President made the decision to go after them. Take away their missiles, take away their navy, take away their drones, take away their ability to make those things so that they can never have a nuclear weap. That's why the President made this decision. It was the right decision. And the world will be a safer place when these radical clerics no longer have access to these weapons. You see how they're using them now? Imagine how they would use them a

[Terrence Bates]

year from now if they had more of these.

[Charlie Kirk]

Israel has reported that, that 90. That on Saturday, 90 ballistic missiles were fired at it today, just 20. So it is going down. And I'm hearing from CENTCOM officials that, in fact, they're seeing fewer and fewer in these waves. But again, these drones are going to cause. Are causing a lot of damage. They're the ones that have str these hotels in Dubai and Bahrain and elsewhere, and they're going to be a problem for some time. We support efforts to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and to prevent its regime from further threatening international peace and security because Canada is taking the world as it is passively waiting for a world we wish to be. We do, however, take this position with regret because the current conflict is another example of the failure of the international order. And now the United States and Israel have acted without engaging the United nations or consulting allies, including Canada.

[Megan Doyle]

Allred has already stated, we encourage each and every one of you to remain resilient. We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded, because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means cheating, then they will continue to do it. We're not going to have election results tonight, in my opinion, based upon what specifically is taking place in Dallas County. Unfortunately, this is what Republicans like to

[Steve Toth]

do,

[Megan Doyle]

and so they specifically targeted Dallas county, and I think we all know why. Texas has always been found to be intentionally discriminatory. And so I want y' all to understand the makeup of my state. The state is a majority minority state. And what this legislature historically has done is what they plan to do again is to dilute the voices of people of color in order to make sure that they can get to where they're trying to go. We only have four seats that are represented by black folk, Texas. So all of the races feel away when you call them exactly what they are are when you say, oh, you guys are racist, and you guys are trying to implement racist practices with these racist maps, right? So, you know, people getting their feelings. Oh, how dare you. It's like, bro, I get that you took your hood off, but your hood is still there. Like, we see it. Like we see it. We know what we see, okay?

[Charlie Kirk]

Every day there's a battle for your mind Raging information coming from every angle

[Terrence Bates]

with the will to deceive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fear not, you found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. March 4, 2026. Welcome, Blake. Howdy. Here at the Phoenix Bitcoin.com studios your one stop shop to buy, sell and trade bitcoin. Check those guys out today. Do yourselves a favor. Lots to get to today. We have a jam packed show. I'm excited to announce that we have Steve Toth who has he took down. Took down Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw. And that was a big upset. Dan Crenshaw becomes the first incumbent House member to lose his reelection bid. So he's done. And so there you go. That is a turning point action endorsed candidate taking out Dan. Dan crenshaw on Texas's 2nd district.

[Blake]

Thank you to everyone who turned out

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Steve Toth]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Well, it's the Bitcoin.com studio. Check him out today. Anyway, so we've got him in the second hour at 1:30 Eastern. So don't go anywhere. We're excited to talk to him. We've actually also got an admiral. We're going to talk tactics, what we know about chessboard pieces moving across the board in the Iran war. But we want to unpack everything that's going on right now with the primary elections in Texas that happened last night here on Real America's Voice. Steve Bannon did a bang up job covering the outcomes last night. So kudos to him. Hat tip, big time. But let's get to the Senate race because this was the big one and there's a lot going on. You know, on the ags House races we get that. But let's go, let's go to this. John Cornyn looks like he eked out a victory over Ken Paxton. We endorse Ken Paxton. But the big story here, Blake, is it's hard to overstate how much of a David versus Goliath story this actually is.

[Blake]

Yeah, they spent approximately what, $60 million.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I've seen 60, I've seen 75. I've seen 105. It depends.

[Blake]

Huge amounts of money either way, they massively spent to keep Cornyn in office. I would say Cornyn has to be one of the Republicans who sparks the least enthusiasm among the base of his state and around the country.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, here's the, here's the angle here though. If you're looking at that, you see Wesley hunt got almost 300,000 votes. Okay, that is a lot of votes. And mark my words, turnout's gonna be even higher for the next for the runoff. Okay, so what you're seeing, it's a 41.9% for Cornyn, the incumbent over 40.7% for Ken Paxton.

[Blake]

I mean it's just Corn is. Corny is a guy. I think it's pretty safe to say Paxton is advantaged in the runoff. And the reason for this is Cornyn is a pro amnesty Republican. He's well known for that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Also Wesley Hunt. Most of those votes for Wesley Hunt are probably going to go to Paxton. And here's the other thing. The Senate Leadership Fund was hitting Wesley Hunt. So if the Senate Leadership Fund is obviously wants John Cornyn, they think John Cornyn is the more electable of the two candidates. But then you go after Wesley Hunt, you're alienating Wesley Hunt's voters. I'm not exactly sure what the logic was on that. But the piece here that's important is the establishment wants John Cornyn. They think that he is more electable. And maybe he might be.

[Blake]

Maybe. Although okay, he's a vote for amnesty. I would rather not have a vote for amnesty in the Senate. He's a vote against so many things.

[Charlie Kirk]

He might be more electable or. But here's the thing. They have said this about Ken Paxton from the jump. They have done this to him in every statewide election. And guess what? Ken Paxton keeps winning and winning by a sizable majority. Now I'm not saying that if you put Cornyn up against Talrico that Cornyn wouldn't get maybe a percentage point more or a percentage point and a half. But then you get this senator that's good for Nothing in the U.S. senate. We have enough of those. Ken Paxton is a fighter. He's proven he can win statewide again and again and again. They always throw the same attack lines at him. He's absolutely capable of winning the general against well, that is the more important

[Blake]

thing because the candidate on the Democrat side we, I think we were all hoping we would get to go against Jasmine Crockett. We all have found her highly entertaining. She's given us a lot of enjoyment over the years. But Jasmine Crockett's somewhat long shot primary bid where she, she opened with a video of President Trump calling her an idiot while sitting there has fallen short. She, she has fallen short. We should bid farewell for her with one final video I think which is her coming out and saying that the primary was rigged by the Republicans. We will note primaries in Texas are just run by the parties themselves. So I guess the Republicans infiltrated the Democrat party and just set it all up. We'll bid her farewell with one last cry of racism.

[Megan Doyle]

471 Allred has already stated, we encourage each and every one of you to remain resilient. We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means cheating, then they will continue to do it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I have been credibly informed that there is no such thing as election fraud. I have been credibly informed. But yet Jasmine Crockett alleges that there was cheating going on. My favorite thing to see is Democrats alleging other Democrats are cheating. Or in this case, I guess she did. She said that Republicans rigged it or something. I don't know why we would rig it. Okay, I had. So I begrudgingly. I'm going to give Blake a little hat tip here at a very good line about Taurico. Now. Taurico.

[Blake]

So that is who won. James Talarico, Presbyterian seminarian, I think, is what he was.

[Charlie Kirk]

But is he moderate?

[Blake]

Well, so that's the thing, is that they're going. We have to kind of reintroduce Talarika, everyone. You're going to be seeing him a lot. He is now the standard bearer for the Democrats this midterm. He is their guy. He's probably going to get the most money. If he were to win next November, it will be touted as their biggest win. We're going to see this guy everywhere. James Talarico, and they're going to tell you he's a moderate. He's the new face of the Democrat Party. He's better than Kamala. He's Christian, He's a good old boy, all these things. James Talarico is not moderate. He's just white. That's just all it is.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's the lie.

[Blake]

He is a white male.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can we repeat that for the folks in the back that maybe didn't hear you? James Talrico, ego is not moderate. He's just white.

[Blake]

It is the exact same thing. They ran with Tim Walls in last in 2024 in Virginia. Well, not a man there, but yeah, Tim Walls. The point is, they trot this guy out and they say, look, he's a white straight guy. You know, he hunts. He was on a football team. Ergo, he's moderate. He's safe for all of you when we know because he tells you himself, he embraces all of the worst, most radical policies of the Democratic Party. Like we have Gavin Newsom coming out and sort of signaling we should maybe chill out on the transgender stuff. Guys, when this guy is going out and saying stuff like this495 God is

[Charlie Kirk]

both masculine and feminine and everything in between. God is non binary.

[Blake]

Or this where he said, you know, there are six biological sexes.

[Charlie Kirk]

05:24 I want us all to be aware of is that that modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes. In fact there are six, but six biological sexes. Like this is the moderate stance. The moderate because the radical debs they believe there's infinity sexes. At least he's limiting it. So this is. He is moderate. He's a total moderate. He only believes in six sexes. Guys, the James Talrico op is an op. Do not fall for it. And you're gonna get to know this guy very, very well. We've got more clips from him. As a matter of fact, we're not done yet with James Talrico. It's Strong Cell time. This was Charlie's favorite supplement as far as I could tell. Everywhere he'd go, you folks, I don't know what it was about the messaging but you would ask him about Strong Cell and they are. And it's so people always jump.

[Blake]

What a costume. In the street. They would grab him and they'd be

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think it's worth repeating. Every time you see these clips, I want you to tell yourself, James Talrico is not moderate. He's just white. Okay.

[Blake]

I mean, so I think we have. We can come up with various terms for what Talarico believes, but it's not

[Charlie Kirk]

for Christianity that is, are you a

[Blake]

believer in the Christ who said he was sent by God to redeem sins or not? Answer the question.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and this is the thing. Left wing Christianity is an extraordinary intellectual exercise because you can see there, James Talrico is twisting himself into ideological and intellectual knots, trying to carve a way out for a progressive to relate to what he's saying so that they don't think he's a bigot. You know, not like all us maga Bible thumpers. And it's designed progressive Christianity to blot out all the aspects of the faith that don't align with the Democrat party platform. Said another way, they put their own ideologies, their own wants, their own appetites ahead of the commandments of God in scripture. And that's why it's completely unrecognizable to your average Christian, to your average evangelical, to your average Catholic, to your average Orthodox. And this is a verse for James Tyreeko. I'd love to get his feedback on this. Second Timothy, 4, 3, 4. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears. They will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn away from listening to the truth and wandering off into myths. And that's what you're seeing with progressive Christians like James Talrico.

[Blake]

I feel like we need. We're going to need a sustained investigation to find out how many coexist bumper stickers James Talarico has plastered on his car, on his computers, on various paraphernalia throughout his life. Because the answer is not zero. Yeah, the answer is 100, not zero.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and listen, I. To make a further point, this is how James Taurico uses scripture and his Christian faith. And going to seminary, of course, because. Because no seminaries are progressive, of course, to defend abortion. Not just any abortion, by the way, trans abortion as well. 490. Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too. Defending trans Texans is something we have to do every day at the state capitol. And you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that too. So when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a lens through which to understand, examine and interrogate patriarchy.

[Blake]

Okay, so I'm going to note something. So for those who can't see it, he was preaching at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church. I want to go back to his whole every religion is true. St. Andrew is an apostle. And according to tradition, he is martyred on an X cross because he will not follow the Roman gods. He will not follow other the pagan gods. He preaches that Christ is the Savior and the only you know is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is the way you know the way

[Blake]

and the truth of life. And that God is the only God. And for that he is executed according to Christian tradition. That is why he is Saint Andrew. So how can James go out there and say, well, actually the Romans were also just on their way to the truth and he probably should have been more tolerant of that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, he probably would have said, well, the Romans were not practicing a religion of love.

[Blake]

He might have said the Romans were better because the Romans didn't have nearly the problem with abortion that the early Christians did. But no, he says they were wrong on that one too.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, be careful and beware of false teachers that will lead you astray and they will tell you whatever their itching ears want to hear because they are avoiding persecution for the truth. That is essentially what this is. God says, do you fear man? Do you fear God? Well, when you water down scripture and when you put your own intellect and your own ideologies and your own political platform ahead of what Scripture says, well, that's false teaching and it's extremely dangerous. But wait, there's more. James Talrico's bad on the border. Can you imagine being a Texan and being awful on the border and being,

[Blake]

well, we have a Republican who's bad on the border in the Senate for Texas. Right?

[Charlie Kirk]

Fair enough. 494. Our southern border should be like our front porch. There should be a giant welcome mat out front and a lock on the door. We can welcome immigrants who want to live the American dream. We can build a pathway to citizenship for those neighbors who have been here making, making us richer and stronger and we can keep out people who mean to do us harm. Giant front porch welcome.

[Blake]

He is not moderate. He's just a white guy. And they're going to endlessly do this spin and it's really sinister. As Christians, we have to be especially alert when they put these fake Christians in front of you and they say, oh, you know, he loves Jesus too. And when they're preaching something that is really evil when he is preaching literal child sacrifice in A supposed church that is honestly far worse and far more sinister than if he was just a non religious Democrat.

[Charlie Kirk]

Woe unto you. Beware of James Talrico. That will be the battle line. And believe you me, Democrats want Texas Blue more than anything else. We'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

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[Admiral Bob Harward]

And by the way, we have massive amounts of ammunition.

[Terrence Bates]

We have the high end.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

A lot of it was given away stupidly by Biden, very stupidly for free.

[Terrence Bates]

And I'm all for Ukraine, but they

[Charlie Kirk]

gave away a lot of, as you

[Admiral Bob Harward]

know, when I give away ammunition, everybody pays for it. The European Union is paying for it.

[Terrence Bates]

Then they can do what they want with it.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

But they are giving it, let's say

[Charlie Kirk]

to Ukraine and it's okay, but we

[Admiral Bob Harward]

gave away a lot of high end,

[Charlie Kirk]

but we have plenty.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

But we have unlimited middle and upper ammunition, which is really what we're using in this war.

[Terrence Bates]

Meantime, the State Department is feverishly working to bring Americans who are in the Middle east home. We of course will have updates on that throughout the day.

[Charlie Kirk]

The voice of generations is the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, if you have ever met Glenn and Jenny's story, From Patriot Mobile. You have been blessed. They are absolute salt of the earth people. And you know, I actually want to get Glenn on the show soon. Yeah, he's Mr. Texas. And they're fighting for all the right candidates. They're in the trenches, real act. They're trying to save Texas from this James Talrico kind of stuff. So you got to support them. And the way you support them and you support the movement and Christian conservative movement is you give them your business. Candidly. I mean, it's some. Sometimes it's that simple. And the best part about Patriot Mobile is when you give them your business, you're getting the same wireless service that you've come to expect from the big three. They have access to all of those. You can even put two phones, two phone lines and two data networks on one phone, which is what I have done. They are backed by 100% US based customer support. Get unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming. You can get all the things. So there's literally zero difference in your service. You can keep your number, keep your phone or even Upgrade. Go to patriotmobile.com Charlie patriotmobile.com Charlie or call them at 972 Patriot and then use the promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com Charlie or 972 Patriot using the promo code Charlie to get a free month of service. Trust me, support these guys. I've spent a lot of time with Glenn and Jenny and they're great people. All right, so we have potentially on the show now one of the most accomplished military minds that I think we've ever had. And I want to talk about strategy, chessboard, chess pieces on a board kind of thing. This is Admiral Bob Harward. He grew up in Iran, graduated from the Tehran American School and speaks Farsi. A former Navy SEAL and vice admiral, he led US Operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, served as deputy commander of the U.S. central Command. I mean, countering terrorism, all the things. This is a very accomplished gentleman. Admiral Bob Harwood. Welcome to the show. Honored to have you. There's so much news out of Iran. Give us the big picture view right now. How are our troops along with Israel, how are they performing? Are we ahead of schedule? Behind schedule? Your assessment, sir?

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Incredible. The whole thing from cradle to grave is just incredible. That's the best description I can have, that we had a leader who was finally, after 40 years, willing to take, take the political risk to stand up to this repressive regime that has been killing our people, attacking our Partners in the region attacking us in cyber and with kinetic activities in Iraq and Yemen. So that in itself is incredible. Then the actions of our military a real testament of the long term investments, the long term commitment, the professionalism of our military and the capability and capacity of our military to come in here and matter of days and really obliterate their integrated air defense system, their ability to project power. So it's just unprecedented. And then most important, as you've noted, the strategy and what this means, this changes the geopolitical content of the world as we know it. Right now. We've removed one of the axis of evil that everyone's acknowledged for the last three or four decades. So it's just incredible in every way.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I want to play this clip from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth talking about kind of the initial volley and return fire that we saw from Iran. He talks about it as a scripted play, like a football team. 482. I liken Iran's predicament to a football team who scripted the first 20 plays of a game. The team knew what plays to run because their first few drives were scripted. But now that the game has started and the blitz is on, they don't know what plays to call, let alone how to get in the huddle and call those plays. Iran's senior leaders are dead. The so called governing council that might have selected a successor, dead, missing or cowering in bunkers, too terrified to even occupy the same room. Senior generals, mid level officers, enlisted ranks, they can't talk or communicate, let alone mount a coordinated and sustained offensive. The Iranian air force is no more. Built for 1996, destroyed in 2026. The Iranian Navy rests at the bottom of the Persian Gulf. So now this, I mean all of this is amazing. And Pete Hegseth basically said that, you know, their air defense is about. We're about to command the skies over Iran in a day or two, less than a week. But then the question then, sir, becomes how long does this take?

[Blake]

Because we are seeing the concerns, Admiral, about missile stockpiles. Does the US have enough for this to go weeks, months on end? Can we win that war of attrition with whatever Iran's built up? That's a concern I'm seeing a lot of people have. And we are seeing, for example, people are betting money on this sort of thing. The prediction markets say there's only about a 40% chance that the regime falls by July. Can the US sustain this if the fight is going into April, May, the summer, June, July?

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Well, first off I disagree with that premise completely. And again, our stockpiles are less relevant once we stop their ability to predict out. If they can't launch missiles, they can't launch drones, they can't mine the Straits of Hormuz. Who cares how long it takes? They can't hurt us, they can't hurt our allies. Time is on our sides then. Do we arm the Kurds? Do we move arms into the people, the opposition? Look, we've had 30 years of hunting people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, everywhere. We can apply that same capability here in Iran to the IRGC and the, the regime that's been killing its people. So then time is irrelevant as long as they pose no threat and we've defanged them, which we're doing now. And as I said previously, we could well be at that tipping point now. We could take all the time in the world to eviscerate the leaders and those people who want to continue to project this ideology of radical Islam being a legitimate, legitimate form of government to repress its people and threaten others in the region and us and our allies. So time becomes irrelevant in that mind. So we have plenty of time to sustain that for whatever it takes. And I think back to your timeline, June or July, once we've eviscerated that and focused capacity and capability on the irgc, you're going to see a lot more people turning. They're going to have to make that choice. Do I want to live and be a part of the future, or am I willing to sacrifice my life for losing cause that has been proven to be illegitimate? So that's where I think this thing only accelerates. So this June and sustainment, I think that's a red herring.

[Charlie Kirk]

Copy that. And so you're also a member of the Iran Policy Project at the Jewish Institute for National Security of America. So one of the things that's striking about this is you've seen, at least in America, but really around the world, you've seen Jews and Iranians celebrating in the streets together, which I think is a really. I mean, you wouldn't necessarily see that or predict to see that. But you speak Farsi, you know something about the internal makeup of the people in Iran. What is the next step then? Especially when we're talking about potentially arming the Kurds. I mean, cuz then you start worrying about civil war breaking out or something like that. What is the will of the IRGC and those loyal to the regime to stick and stay fighting? And what would be the process for turning over the government and Getting a new government in its place.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Let me go back to your initial comments about Israelis or Jews and the Iranians. When I grew up In Iran, from 60s to 79 collapsed, the largest Jewish community outside of Israel was in Iran.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

And it was a very secular nation. They worked together, business. It was really a peaceful area. And I've been in LA a few months ago where I attended a bar mitzvah. There were more Persians and Iranians than there were Jews in that bar mitzvah. So this ideology is what's made this whole regime so perverse. They flipped that on the head and made him their enemy and a threat as well as us. And that the Iranian people have come to realize it's all a lie and facade. So again, back to this flipping the regime. Once we've decimated the ability to project power and can go after using signal intelligence, human intelligence, space assets, and can track and watch people not only to finish and fix them, but to identify them to the opposition groups so they can be targeted internally. And a few of those start occurring, you're going to watch these guys turn very quickly or leave the country if they can. So I think when you've got a nation of 90 million people where they've spoken very loudly, they've been on the streets protesting and were murdered, they're ready to hold these people accountable and act against them. And so again, I think that timeline can move much quicker than people realize.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, and do we? Have we? You know, I'm looking here@iran international.com and there's a note here that I logged. It says the IRGC is also reportedly deeply concerned that once daylight breaks on Sunday, people across various parts of the country may take to the streets, potentially triggering a new wave of gatherings and protests. Have you heard anything on your end about a potential new wave of protests? People taking to the streets, or is it too early to take one minute left?

[Admiral Bob Harward]

No, it's inevitable. They've already been done it, but they were mowed down. Now the president, as he said, help is on the way. The help's there and it's even coming more. So they're going to be a powder. I don't know if it happens Sunday, if it happens Monday, it's coming. So no doubt about it, you'd have to be a blind man not to see it coming. The day of reckoning for this regime and those who stood with it, willing to murder the people of Iran is coming much quicker than people realize. So this tipping point can occur almost any day now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, I mean, listen, we certainly hope it doesn't devolve into some sort of sectarian fighting or civil war. And that's why we have people like you that know the people better than we do and understand what's gonna happen next. So last 10, 15 seconds to you, sir.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Yeah, just again, as we started. This is an incredible event to. And we gotta start bickering, throwing stones at me. Let's see it through to fruition and then we can debate afterward. But we're in the middle of the fight now, and this thing's going at a great rate of speed. Don't diminish it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Nobody, sir, nobody is. I mean, we're all impressed by our military might, and it is incredible to watch. Thank you. Your perspective is invaluable and your accomplishments for the. This, this country are. We. We. We respect them greatly and are grateful for you and your service, sir. Thank you so much.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

Thank you, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

It's. It's. I feel like we've done our best on this show to talk about how we think Charlie would have reacted to the build up to this war and the outbreak of it. And I feel a sign that I. We're hopefully getting it right is we have competing emails that say we are betraying Charlie by being too supportive of the President and we are betraying Charlie by being too critical of the lead up to the war and that we are skeptical of it. So. And listen, we think that's about the position you have.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that was exactly Charlie's experience when it came to these things. But a couple cool things have happened, actually. Just. And cool in the sense that, like, listen, I love our military. There's nothing that is gonna make me not love the military my brother serves. I have family members that serve and we're proud of them when they do cool things. And, you know, you could disagree with the premise of the war and still think that what they're doing is cool. And one of them is that we have sunk. Sunk a ship.

[Blake]

We have sunk a ship in battle. An American submarine. Let's throw up the B roll498. An American submarine sunk an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean. It had apparently gone to some sort of naval review in India. And then it was departing. It was in international waters and it was sunk about 30 miles off coast.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to see that again.

[Blake]

Sri Lanka. Yeah, play it again.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's amazing. I mean, the whole.

[Blake]

You can see it there. We have a powerful torpedo. Blew its back off. It's only the second time a nuclear powered submarine has sunk a ship with a torpedo. The British famously took out the General Belgrano of Argentina during the Falklands War.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Blake]

But this is the first time an American submarine has done it since they were sinking Japanese ships 80 years ago. And you've got to think that's got to be very exciting. Can you imagine that crew?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. The first time for decades they've trained

[Blake]

for this and they're finally going into action.

[Charlie Kirk]

And listen, that is a huge, huge deal. Taking out their naval capabilities of the Iranians frees up the Strait of Hormuz. So just to reiterate, about 20% of the world's energy flows through the strait, and 14 to 15% of all world trade flows through the ship.

[Blake]

Part of President Trump was saying what his specific objectives are with this conflict, and it was remove the Supreme Leader, remove their nuclear program, and sink their navy. These are explicit objectives he has stated. So it takes us closer to achieving those objectives that this happened. And that's what we want to see. We want consistently from this administration, we want to see signs that they know what their objectives are and are working towards them. And what you want to avoid are signs of a conflict becoming open ended, becoming unclear. Just we will fight until victory. Without saying what that is.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is a story that we need to get to here. And so CNN yesterday was reporting that the CIA is working to arm Kurdish forces. This was reported. The lead reporter on this was Natasha Bertrand, who you will know from the 50 former intel officials, you know, believe that Hunter's laptop is.

[Blake]

That means they have connections.

[Charlie Kirk]

This, Natasha, is. Bertrand is notorious for basically publishing press releases from deep state intel operatives. Okay. This was a story that was leaked, meaning that in my opinion, the people that leaked it are trying to harm the president. So here's CNN trying to explain this. 470. We spent some time this evening with a senior Iranian Kurdish politician who basically told us that he. The expectation among Iraqi, sorry, Kurdish, Iranian opposition forces is that they will be going into western Iran as part of. Of some kind of a ground operation over the course or at some point during the next few days that they will have support from the US and from Israel, though he would not be drawn as to what exactly that support will look like. He also told us that President Trump himself had called the leader of the kdpi, which is one of these Iranian Kurdish opposition parties, parties today, and that they had what he categorized as, or characterized, I should say, as a positive. All right, so what's our history arming Kurdish?

[Blake]

Well, we've done it for a long time. Israel also has extensive connections with the Kurds. So the Kurds are an ethnic group in the mountainous area. They've never had their own state, notably.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so that the largest ethnic group in the world that does not have their own state.

[Blake]

Yes, so they have. So they're all across northern Iraq, Iraq, Iran. They're in Turkey. I think most of them are in Turkey. There are some in Syria. They've repeatedly popped up because they tend to be. They're fractious minority. I don't know that they're more Western. A lot of them are communists.

[Charlie Kirk]

Western friendly.

[Admiral Bob Harward]

They're more.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah.

[Blake]

More Western friendly. That would be true. And we've armed them in a lot of conflicts. And, you know, sometimes it's helpful, sometimes it's not. We encourage them to launch an uprising against Saddam Hussein. And they were notably, they were gassed by Saddam Hussein before the Gulf War. After the Gulf War, we encouraged both Kurds and Shia Muslims in Iraq to rise up against Saddam, but we didn't support them directly. So they were suppressed and they've also been heavily involved in the Syrian civil war. So I would find it pretty plausible, if we were in communication with them, to have some sort of on the ground presence in Iran, because President Trump, we know, doesn't want U.S. troops there. But I would voice a note of concern here, which is once you're kind of bringing in these ethnic militias, we have seen how that can end, which is you're turning into. You're turning a conflict into an ethnic civil war. We had that in Afghanistan, we had that in Libya, we had that in Syria. All those conflicts went for a very long time and became difficult.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep. Well, exactly. So these are part of the unintended consequences of regime change that we have talked about.

[Blake]

Because we don't want our mess. We don't want it to be possible for the Iranian regime to say, President Trump is trying to dismember Iran as a country. That will make it so. The Iran, you know, the Iranians themselves, the Persians, who are the main ethnic group there, would be more likely to rally around the regime if it's going to say they're going to break apart our country.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. The hope is that within Iran itself, if you start seeing these street protests take action, if you start seeing command and control break down within the IRGC and the Quds Force and obviously the naval apparatus has been dismantled, you want to see a natural sort of takeover. The question is, what is it going to take?

[Blake]

I think. I think it would be helpful. I think it would be helpful if the admin probably said overtly, we promise to not, not take apart Iran. That they're going to want to. Yeah, I don't think they do. So they should, they should say it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. They just want to apply maximum force to make them fall quickly. And I understand that. But unintended consequences, regime change, it's always the concern. Hour two in just a few minutes. Don't go anywhere.

[Terrence Bates]

Terrance Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break. Thanks for being here with us. It is four days into the US Israeli war with Iran. And Secretary of War Pete Hegseth along with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Kane are laying out the current situation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Iran cannot outlast us. We are going to ensure through violence of action and our offensive capabilities and our defensive capabilities, as I said, that we set the tone and the tempo of this fight. That's why stories and speculation about different things that try to make it look like we're limited in what we can do. The only limits we have in this is President Trump's desire to achieve specific effects on behalf of the American people. And that's why we don't talk about, you know, you can say four weeks, but it could be six, it could be eight, it could be three. Ultimately, we set the pace and the tempo. The enemy is off balance, and we're going to keep him off balance. And we know their ability to shoot versus our ability to defend. That difference gets wider and wider every day. Our defense gets better, their offense capabilities diminish.

[Terrence Bates]

R America's Voice correspondent and host of Breaking Point, david Zier attended this morning's news conference and joins us live now with some perspective. David, good afternoon. Hi. Good afternoon, Terrence. And yes, Pete Hegseth added to that that within a week, we will probably have complete air superiority and their air defenses will be dismantled, as well as their ballistic missile program. So really, in short, so far this campaign, the United States has taken out Iran's navy, its air defenses, and really softened up everything to set the stage for whatever comes next. Yes. And shipping lanes are opening up again. And news services swirled with stories all morning about a naval vessel, Iranian, getting sunk in the Indian Ocean by possibly US Submarines. Sequor Hagseth and General Dan Kane from the Joint Chiefs confirm that we had the first torpedo launch from Aon, a foreign vessel from a US submarine in about 80 years, going back to World War II, which maybe it's poetic justice, the name of the ship was the sole many who injured and maimed and killed so many hundreds of troops, US Troops in Iraq on the ground. And I also got to ask Pete Hegseth about Hakeem Jeffries comments that many say were irresponsible about US losing the Iran conflict. Take us through those comments very quickly, if you don't mind. And the response you got. Yeah, well, Hakeem Jeffries basically said that we're going to lose this, we're going to lose the Iran war. And, you know, Trump would disagree with that. And Secretary Hegseth, you know, said he's been through this before. He's been through this like circus before, that Jeffries has been briefed on all of this and he's being disingenuous with the American people to score political points. I guess hedging the bet. Right. But while US Men are in combat, probably not the right thing to do. And I asked him what, you know, does it interfere with the motivation of our troops and what do the enemies think about this? And he just said that what, what Jefferies did was wrong. Okay, let's Move on to Ecuador, because that's also a developing situation. It was not addressed during the news conference, but U.S. special forces are now working with Ecuadorian military officials in the fight against drugs and to on land, at least, deal with some of the narco terrorism. What's the reaction from the Pentagon? What are you hearing from your sources? Well, U.S. southern Command met, I believe, on Monday in Quito, Ecuador, with President Daniel Naboa, who's a U.S. ally, and other senior officials in Ecuador. You know, In Ecuador in 2024, 290 tons of drugs were seized, 30% higher than the year before. Violence is through the roof, with about 7,000 violent deaths in 2024, a homicide rate of almost 40 per 100,000 quintupling in over five years. And the surge in trafficking has coincided with this deterioration of the country's security. And no specific details were issued on the military activity. But tomorrow, we just got word from the Department of War in a press release that Hegseth will be at southcom headquarters down in Doral on this expansion of US Strikes against boats in the region. And Trump will target suspects of, you know, transporting drugs. And it's just an incredible operation. But remember, the Ecuadorian president is an ally of the United States. Absolutely. David Zier reporting for us from Washington, D.C. this morning. Always good to see you, sir.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back. Hour two, the Charlie Kirk show is underway, and we are joined by a couple of our college students. Every so often, we like to do a segment devoted to them because it's kind of what it's all about. It's what Charlie dedicated his life to, reaching the next generation. And today we have Megan Doyle from Rutgers University and Brooke Christie from Appalachian State University. Welcome to the show, both you ladies.

[Brooke Christie]

Thank you so much for having us here. It's exciting to be here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely.

[Megan Doyle]

All right, well, thank you so much.

[Charlie Kirk]

So which one's Megan? Which one's Brooke?

[Brooke Christie]

I'm Brooke.

[Megan Doyle]

I'm Megan Ruhl.

[Charlie Kirk]

There you go. Hey, Brooke. Hi, Megan. All right, so I want to start off by asking you guys to give us the vibe on campus of this, this, this, the strikes against Iran. What's the vibe? What are people saying? Let's go ahead and start with be honest with us.

[Blake]

Bad.

[Charlie Kirk]

Tell us.

[Blake]

We want to know.

[Charlie Kirk]

We want the unvarnished truth. Brooke, you first.

[Brooke Christie]

Yeah. I think at my campus especially, people are very upset with the United States and their involvement. I think that a lot of direction is pointed at Israel and questioning our allies and the motives in that way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Megan.

[Megan Doyle]

Yeah, I definitely Agree. That's the same vibe that we're having on campus. And I think more people don't want to see another war.

[Charlie Kirk]

Copy. So are you seeing protests? Are you seeing, are people gathering in the, in the square, in the quad? What kind of activities are you seeing this manifest in?

[Brooke Christie]

I'm mostly seeing things through online platforms. People on Instagram or Twitter just, you know, really going in at President Trump and being upset that, you know, gas prices might go up and forever war. Like people really, really do not want boots on the ground in this circumstance.

[Blake]

Are you seeing that even from people that, you know, voted for Trump in 2024 or is it more? Is it still mostly from people you know would be left wing regardless or.

[Brooke Christie]

I think the idea of starting a new foreign war is really, even for Trump voters, really deterring people from wanting to align with the administration and their actions. I can't speak for everyone, but I've definitely seen those opinions on campus.

[Charlie Kirk]

Copy. Megan, you seen the same thing.

[Megan Doyle]

Yes. And I think more people want to focus on our country. They don't want another war. They want to focus on affordability and housing and the gas prices.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And I mean, listen, you know, we've gotten a lot of emails from our audience that are upset that we're not, I guess, more full throated in our support of the war. And this is a big reason why is because, you know, Charlie was very in tune with Gen Z. He visited college campuses at Turning Point. That's all we do is work with students. And I can tell you that the vibe on college campuses, even on high school campuses, that young people do not want to go to war. They want to focus here on domestic issues, affordability, college, that sort of thing. Free speech. Are they going to have a job? Is AI taking over the job market?

[Steve Toth]

It.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that's a big reason why we're always a little reticent when we see this penchant for starting wars in the Middle East. It could end up being the absolute right decision from a national security perspective. But it does come with political costs and we need to be honest about those. So thank you. Thank you guys for being honest about those. All right, we're going to move on just a little bit here. There's a new report that says 51% of Gen Z view their college degree as a waste of money. This has been reported by multiple outlets, but.

[Blake]

And yet both of you are in a college.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. Right now.

[Blake]

So explain yourselves and tell us how you feel about that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Megan, let's start with you. Do you Find your degree to be a waste of money.

[Megan Doyle]

Well, I think my degree, I want to be a lawyer one day, so I kind of have to have a degree in order to get to law school. However, I do think that colleges are ripping each other, ripping students off from getting a proper education. We have colleges that are forcing students as a graduation requirement to take indoctrination classes and it really devalues our degree.

[Charlie Kirk]

Brooke?

[Brooke Christie]

Yeah, I think that personally for me, I'm going into the education field and my degree will help me there. I think that a lot of students these days go into college with the expectation that the degree is the objective. When you know, college is really supposed to be for finding your life's work. And a lot of people are not going indirectionally or thinking ahead of their career. So they're letting college really scam them instead of taking accountability for their classes and outside learning. And I don't think college, even with all of the social sciences and maybe like DEI classes and what we could call brainwashing, I think that just, you know, taking that accountability, really understanding the investment that you're making and going in with a purpose could really help with that statistic and letting kids know that when they go into college it's not just a four year vacation, that it's purposeful and academia has a purpose.

[Blake]

Yeah, exactly. And Charlie would, you know, we like, we emphasize the college scam because Charlie called it the college scam. But he would always make that important point that you make the scam less of 1 if you know what you're, if you're studying something useful, if you're making the most of it, if you're not going on autopilot, going in with no plan, going in, spending too much money and taking too long.

[Charlie Kirk]

Let's play Charlie on why he thought college was scam. 5:23 Just to be clear, the vast majority of people going to college should not go.

[Steve Toth]

Just one number off the top is that 40% of kids that enroll in college, they drop out, they don't graduate at all. And the vast majority of kids are

[Charlie Kirk]

studying things that humanities, sociology or gender studies.

[Steve Toth]

There is of course a role for some people to go to college that

[Charlie Kirk]

requires some technical proficiency.

[Steve Toth]

But what happened, Brian, is that the entire value proposition was turned on its head is whether it be the $200,000 plus of cost that it occurs for over four years, the bad ideas, the woke ideology.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're really playing with some very dangerous elements here.

[Steve Toth]

And so I encourage young people to

[Charlie Kirk]

think twice before going to college and not everyone needs to go to college to succeed in America. Do you resonate with that, Megan? Do you feel like there's a lot of indoctrination going on?

[Megan Doyle]

Yes, definitely. There is quite a lot of indoctrination going on in our college campuses. We're forced to take these liberal woke classes that are supposed to are in quotes, kind of supposed to help us, but in reality they're just ripping us off and making us more woke.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And you have to pay for that credit by credit. Right. Don't call it. When I was in college, there's a price per credit that they put on that. I don't know what it is at Rutgers, I'm assuming pretty high actually. You know, Rutgers University, by the way, Blake was the. We had Dr. Antifa was at Rutgers. That was guy that wrote the antifa handbook and then fled to Spain when it got hot because he was advocating that politics should. We should be preemptively. Liberals should be preemptively attacking fascists. So. And then when he got a little criticism for that, he tucked tail and ran to Spain. I would love to keep you both for one more segment if you have enough time. I want to tell you guys about the best college, Charlie's favorite college, and that was Hillsdale. Hillsdale College. Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or title. He chased truth. And this is totally true. He was an autodidact. He wanted to learn from the best and the greatest books. And through Hillsdale College's free online courses, he studied the great works of classics, the principles of the American founding and life changing truths of the scripture. One of the courses he took was the Genesis story. This is actually true. It was. It's taught by Hillsdale Professor Dr. Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between God and man. What happens when that relationship is broken and how do you reconcile it? It's a real college course. It's rigorous, it's demanding, it's thoughtful. It's accessible to anybody who's willing to learn. You can take the very same course that Charlie did, completely free. Grow stronger in your faith. Gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world. And prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction. Visit charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll today. That's charlie4hillsdale.comto enroll today. Learn deeply. Lead boldly. Carry it forward. We love Hillsdale College. They are the best college. It's a perfect sponsor for this segment, by the way. We'll be right back. Because of private student loan debt, another perfectly on topic discussion here. A lot of young people and their parents who often co sign these loans, they feel trapped. It's terribly destructive actually because it puts off family formation, puts off starting your life, getting a home, getting ahead financially. These colleges, this is why we call college a scam, is because they charge all this money for degrees that are not worth the paper that they are printed on. Can you imagine being debt free, not living under this burden anymore? If you go to why refi.com, you can read testimonials from other people who have been where you are and how they've escaped. You can even see what their monthly payments were before, before and after. Working with the good folks at Y Refi, they can save you thousands of dollars. They'll even let you skip a payment every six months up to 12 times without penalty. They don't care what your credit score is. Takes about three minutes to check. This is what these people do for a living. This is what they do. This is what they wake up for, is to help students that are struggling under a mountain of private student loan debt that others will not touch. So go to yrefi y-refy.com today or call them 888 yrefi34. So Megan or Brooke, I don't know if that relates to you and your situation, but I'm sure you're racking up some student loan debt. If not, you don't have to say it out loud. God bless you if you're not. But a lot of people are. Most students are. All right, Megan, you keep saying, talking about these courses you have to take, these indoctrination courses you have to take, but it sounds like maybe you're not there yet. Juniors and seniors have to take these courses, which is ironic, right? So before you send them out into the world.

[Blake]

Yeah, it just says in our summary that there's apparently literal antifa classes.

[Steve Toth]

So.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I looked.

[Blake]

We'd love more information on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mark Bray, Dr. Antifa, is still employed by Rutgers University, a taxpayer funded institution. Yes, a public school. It's ridiculous. He fled to Spain and he still got a job. So Megan, tell us about that. What are some of the courses you've heard about?

[Megan Doyle]

So some of the courses that I've heard about was the history on abortion. And like you said, Mark Bray is in fact teaching the history of anti fascism, which he employs his antifa rhetoric onto students. And along with the history on abortion, we have professors that are Trying to push this pro choice view onto students.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's not education. That's activism. Do you see that at Appalachia State, Brooke?

[Brooke Christie]

I do see some of it. I think there are certain classes that focus on critical theory and Marxism, but a lot of teachers and professors, I think, try and express their opinions on that. A lot of them are very much pro leftist, and some of them do do a great job of, you know, actually engaging students in real education. What's troubling to me is students not wanting to break outside of their own thought circles and completely disregarding other or conservative ideas. So I think it's really like a student issue that professors put forward as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what is it like in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination for you at Turning Point? A member tabling on campus? What's the stat? How's the club doing? What's it like? What's the reaction for other students at

[Brooke Christie]

Appalachia State since we. Since Charlie has passed, we've gained about 200 students. We started our chapter this semester with about 30, and now we're up to, I think, 213. So it's been really great community building. We've had really helpful communication with staff and administration, putting on events, and we had a cow on campus the other day. But students are very much anti Turning Point, and I don't think that they truly want to engage with us as much if they're in those leftist circles. And that's something that I want to work on, is just overall campus communication.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Getting out there, inviting them to see that we're not all, like, crazy fascists that Mark Braille.

[Blake]

Right.

[Brooke Christie]

We're really just Bradley.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. Turns out conservatives are happy and nice and really welcoming if you give us a shot.

[Brooke Christie]

Not that they would expect it.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, exactly. What about you, Megan? What's the vibe on Rutger's Univers? You guys have some great student leaders, especially on the club level, that helped blow up that Mark Bray story in the first place.

[Megan Doyle]

Yes. Yes. Thank you so much. Yeah. The vibe with Turning Point being on campus is quite negative. I remember when we did our tabling, and students often want to engage with us, but they don't. They really want to engage in a negative way. We've had students that mock Charlie Kirk stuff. We have students that openly insult us for our conservative and traditional beliefs. And it really just shows how divided we are, not only as a country, but in campuses as well. And that shouldn't be the case. We should have open debate and open discussion, which is definitely something that colleges need to work on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Danny's telling us he said at Ohio State, the College Democrats would threaten their members and people if they interacted with the chapter, the Turning Point chapter there in Ohio.

[Blake]

It's very real. And for those who aren't young people, who aren't on campus, we want to drive this point home that we did well in 2024. We did have a shift of young people towards Trump, but due to events such as the war, some of that might be reversing. And also there was stuff where, you know, you had more freedom to be conservative on campus. And the left was cowed a bit, but they're charging back. They're going to be aggressive again. They're going. They might be violent again. And some of these people look at Luigi as a model. They might even look at Tyler Robinson as a hero.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Do you guys feel that the level of antagonism, the aggressiveness of left, the progressive culture on campus has escalated in recent months? Either of you can answer?

[Brooke Christie]

I think in a way it has. We have had a few cases after Charlie Kirk's assassination and the ICE raids in Michigan that people, you know, write very nasty things on campus, like shoot your local ICE agent. And we've. We've had to communicate that with our staff. And so it's. It's sort of disheartening that people are taking these lines and protesting against our federal government. It's. It's an interesting time to be on campus, for sure.

[Steve Toth]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Megan, have you seen the energy from the left ramp up in recent months?

[Megan Doyle]

Yeah, it has definitely ramped up, especially after Charlie Kirk died. And, you know, with Rutgers Turning Point being involved with the petition to remove Mark Bray, it has definitely made Turning Point quite a target on campus. Like I said before, we have seen major acts of aggression towards me. Other leaders at Turning Point, what did

[Charlie Kirk]

they do to you?

[Megan Doyle]

I've been openly insulted to my face when I'm doing a tabling at turning in my college campus. And, you know, with my involvement in the antifa petition, not only have I been doxxed, I've been. My personal identity has just been thrown into the Internet for everyone to see.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm so sorry. Megan.

[Blake]

Thank you for holding firm in the face of that.

[Charlie Kirk]

You guys are the tip of the spear and you are so courageous, and we just. We have your back and you guys are doing God's work.

[Blake]

Yeah. And thank you for coming on and thank you for giving us raw honesty on stuff like the war. We appreciate hearing that Charlie looked to you understand the truth of what was going on. Thank you for giving to it to us. See you later.

[Charlie Kirk]

Brooke and Megan, thanks so much. We'll be right back. The Charlie Kirk show where truth lives. All right. We're turning 250 as a country this year, and that's why I love having companies that. That all they do is support America and in this case, America's ranchers. If you are not a subscriber to good ranchers yet, get that box of meat coming to your, straight to your door. It's perfectly cold, perfectly packaged, then you're missing out and you need to correct that. Amend that. Now. Good Ranchers is all about America. They support America's ranchers, their farmers. Every cut of meat is from American farms and ranches, and even their packaging and fulfillment process takes place totally in America. To support a company that honors America's past, present, and future, visit goodranchers.com today. That's good ranchers.com today when you start your plan, this is very cool, actually. You get to pick your favorite cut of meat and they will, they will include it in every box, every subscription box that comes to your door completely free. So they give you a free gift with every box. And then get this. If you use the promo code, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk. You'll get $25 off your first order. Again, that's promo code. Kirk. K I R K. $25 off your first Good Ranchers order. Goodranchers.com American meat delivered. Very excited about our next guest. And we have actually welcomed Tyler Boyer, who runs Turning Point Action for us, to join us for this segment. And that is state representative Steve Toth. He has been victorious in his primary battle with Dan Crenshaw, won by a decisive margin in Texas's second district. Steve Toth, welcome to the show.

[Steve Toth]

It's toast, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

What did I say? Oh, I actually knew that. I don't know why. It's, you know, you get distracted with the reads. Steve Toth.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

Steve, I, I told him it was Toth all day yesterday. I said Toth a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I don't know what my problem is.

[Steve Toth]

What's. What's so funny is that that dan Crenshaw spent $3 million teaching everybody how to pronounce my name. And, Tyler, the reality is that 99.9% of all people that have ever met me, the very first times they talk, they don't know how to pronounce it.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, it's a funny thing. Go ahead, sir.

[Steve Toth]

The funny thing is in the parking lot for Two weeks of early voting. People kept coming up to me saying, steve Toth, I'm voting for you. I'm like, man, I'm so grateful for Dan Crenshaw. All the negative ads that he's put out there that people finally know how to pronounce my name.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

Well, hey, Congr. Huge congratulations. We're so thrilled. I know so many great, you know, great Texans that are just so relieved is, I guess, I guess the best word to have somebody that they know they can trust representing them in Congress. So tell us about what kind of the feedback was. I'm sure it was an emotional night last night for you.

[Steve Toth]

We were just so pumped. But you know what's crazy is that I've got a background in linear aggression modeling and pollution, and people were like, don't do this. You haven't got a chance. And we're like, no, we're going to win. We're going to win with 57% of the vote. And I was wrong. We got 58% of the vote, but people were just like, so shocked. And I'm like, he was 55% unfavorable in Montgomery county, which is 53% of the district. He was 44% unfavorable in, in Harris county, which everyone was like, there's no way you can beat him. We're like, no, we're gonna beat him. We're, we're going to beat him. Trust me on this. And so it was just, we're just overjoyed last night to see it finally nine months later come to fruition.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

Well, I have family in the North Houston area and they are so thrilled. And just in general, just about, I mean, it's just been, it feels like, like, it feels like for the many years since about 2020, it's just been a lot of back and forth shenanigans with people, and people are just done with that in Congress. They want people who are going to go, you know, be who they are, represent them well, communicate well with the people. I mean, what, what is, what is some of your primary goals that you're looking to achieve? You know, kind of stepping into that and helping rebuild some trust maybe for Texas. And, and again, that Houston metropolitan area where some people kind of had felt like they were being ignored for many, many years by kind of the Hollywood levels type stuff that was going on. I mean, what's, what's your, what's your, what's your take? What's your plan?

[Steve Toth]

So Congressional District 2 in Texas is a tale of two communities. It's it's the western. It's Montgomery county portion of Congressional District 2 and the Harris County Congress portion of Congressional District 2, which the Eastern portion of this in Harris county has been really, really, by and large overlooked. It's the redheaded stepchild, if you will, of, of the city of Houston. And they flooded badly 10 years ago.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

That's right.

[Steve Toth]

And so bad homes were washed off their foundations. People were, were drowned in the middle of the night. A terrible situation. And since that time, millions has been. Has been brought back. I mean, I, I was on the Appropriations Committee and I appropriated $1.6 billion for flood mitigation efforts in the state of Texas. And yet none of it, really, none of it has found its way to this area. And so here we are ten years later, and we're every bit as susceptible to a flood as we were back then. And I want to fight for these guys and really help them realize that you can live in a place, beautiful place like this, and not have to worry about your home being washed off its foundation in the middle of the night. So we've got a lot of work to do, and I've got a lot of work to do to, to really impress upon them that I'm serious about this.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

Well, I appreciate that. That was actually my family. My family's home was completely destroyed by those floods 10 years ago, and it impacted their life in so many more ways. I mean, they're rebuilding. You still have, you know, like, you're mentioning elements of where that community hasn't been rebuilt. And so many people left that really shouldn't have left. Like, great, great people who are like, I'm not doing this. And they got to different parts of Texas or went to different parts of the country. And that's really sad. So I'm glad that you brought that up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and so you talk about restoring the trust with the grassroots and the base. You are the grassroots candidate. You pulled out a massive, massive win. Crenshaw is out now, essentially. So you are gonna be the Republican nominee. And you are going against a Democrat, though. So this is an R plus district, but he's got a lot of money.

[Steve Toth]

He's got a lot of money and he, his consultant is. From what I'd heard, this is the guy that ran the campaign for Bernie Sanders when he ran for president. So full blown socialist. That's who these loons are in Texas there, it's just like, nothing moderate about them. You would think, hey, it's sexist, right? They must be a little bit, bit, you know, Almost like a, you know, a Lynn and Baines Johnson kind of dep. Now those guys, Lynon Baines Johnson, Democrats are all gone. They're as far looney as you can possibly imagine. And so we're going to have our hands, our work set cut out for us and we're going to work hard and we're going to win this.

[Blake]

And I'm just looking at old James Talarico tweet. One of our staff just sent us where he, I guess must be reacting to some, someone saying something right of center and he goes, there but for the grace of God go I. As a white man, I'm susceptible to radicalization. Thankfully, I was exposed to diversity at a young age and explicitly taught the values of equality, inclusion and justice. But not every young white boy is so lucky. We've got some loopy people coming out of, out of Texas, unfortunately, Steve, and we need, we need a very strong GOP to push back on it. And maybe that's, you know, we can talk about that. There's been a lot of frustrations, I think, with turnout, turnout and just with the Texas GOP generally. I run into conservatives who make, they'll make the comparison between Texas and Florida a lot. They're both very big states. They're both longtime Republican states. They're both very critical for our election prospects nationally. And it feels like Florida is almost always like on, you know, they're really with it. They're very high functioning. They churn out a lot of high quality legislation. They get it done. And it feels like with Texas we have these problems we're always hearing, oh, in the Texas legislature, they get, they literally pick their speaker with Democrat support and they put Democrats in senior committee spots and sorry if I'm rambling a bit, I guess I just wonder. You're the third most conservative guy in the Texas House according to a study by Richard Rice. So maybe you have some thoughts on why those parties seem so different and what went wrong.

[Steve Toth]

In Texas, 62 Democrats joined 21 Republicans to give us the speaker of the House. So 3/4, 2/3, you know, 20. Yeah, 2/3. 2/3 Democrat, 1/3 third Republican. That coalition of Democrats runs the Texas House. So when I put forth legislation to secure our elections, it gets killed by the Democrats. When I put forth legislation to end the social transition of children, it gets killed by the Democrats. It's evil. Telo is part of that group. I served with James Tellarico from 2019 through to today. This guy is as evil as they come. There is a darkness to this man's life that if you, if you doubt, if you doubt that there's a wickedness and an evil and a demonic presence in the world, you only have to look at James Tellarico. He is an awful, awful person. Awful person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, there's news on that race, by the way. President Trump has just announced that he will make an endorsement soon in Texas's GOP Senate primary. And he's asking the candidate that he does not endorse course to drop out, which is quite the, quite the truth. Social. He is not announced yet, but he says he will soon.

[Steve Toth]

That scares me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, me too.

[Steve Toth]

Yes, that really scared. That really, that really seriously scared me.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

Well, my hope is, my hope is, Steve, that your race actually will, you know, push the president to because I mean your race is one of the few that the white bell west.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a bellwether race that the White

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

House didn't engage in. And again, I appreciate that because I think it would have been awful had they endorsed Dan Crenshaw.

[Steve Toth]

So I think Dan still would have lost. Dan still would have lost.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

I mean, I agree with that. But my point is I'm hoping that, you know and would love to get your thoughts, especially after we get out of the break here is, you know, maybe this is a new, a new day for Texas because you're racing race, you winning your race so decisively. What do you think about that?

[Steve Toth]

$80 million spent and the most expensive center race in the history of the United States. $80 million spent on one candidate and he could not even get 50%. And it tells you that America, and Texas especially is done with John Cornyn and America. There is only one person that had higher unfavorables in the state of Texas. And I told this to the President. There's only one person that is higher and favorables in the state of Texas than John Cornyn and that was Dan Crenshaw. But it was only by one point. And so yeah, I am hoping that the president considers that in, in, in, in his, in his endorsement endorsement because John Cornyn is not going to be the next. He's not. It does not matter how much money they spend. It does not matter how many endorsements John Corny gets. He will not win.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well and by the way, Cornyn will stab him in the back as soon as he is done with this election. He was doing that before he realized he was in a dogfight. So then he fell in line and voting mag all the way. But guess what if he gets another six year lease on life. He's. He's going to go back to his old ways. More with Steve Toth when we get back. All right, if you have been a faithful Kirk podcast listener for any amount of time, you know about Strong Cell. You've heard about it. It was Charlie's favorite supplement. If you deal with brain fog, fatigue, lack of energy, or constant illness, then you have to try. People always asked Charlie why he was able to keep his mind so sharp and his energy up. And guess what? His Strong Cell was his go to. Every single day I traveled with Charlie and people would ask him about it all the time. Their proprietary delivery mechanism of an amazing enzyme called NADH is what makes Strong Cell so special. It is the power source for every cell in your body. So you're gonna want to check it out. You can try Strong Cell completely risk free now, which is crazy. 90 day money back guarantee, completely risk free. So go to strongcell.com that's strongcell.com. no, it's not where we keep Kamala Harris or Anthony Fauci, but strongcell.com promo code Charlie at checkout to save 20%. That's strongcell.com don't forget to use the promo code Charlie at checkout. All right, so that's a good transition here. So, Steve, your race was a. Is a bellwether for the state. It shows that the grassroots is fed up with the establishment in Texas. A lot of what ails us looks like we. There you go. A lot of what ails Texas is this sort of Bush hangover, establishment Republican. We experienced this in Arizona. Tyler knows this better than anybody. This war between the old guard and this new wave of populist conservative energy. The early reports suggest that President Trump is going to endorse Cornyn. That's what everybody's expecting here. Your race could be the key to making sure that doesn't happen. What is the energy of the grassroots in the state of Texas? Is it ready for this?

[Steve Toth]

Yeah, it's off the charts. Ronald Reagan told us nearly 50 years ago, it's bold colors that will inspire the next generation of Americans to turn out and vote. And we've seen that in Florida, right? Like you take a bold, a bold governor in Desantis, and he is inspiring a whole new generation. And look at our border, guys. Our border has turned gone from bright blue to bright red under President Trump. Why? Because Hispanics as well as young people want to see bold leadership. The problem with the Bush wing of the Republican Party is that whenever they won elections they took office. Meanwhile, Democrats, when they won elections, they wielded power. People want to see bold leadership. They don't want to see people like John Cornyn that have been there, been in office for 40 some odd freaking years and hasn't done anything. He has done nothing for the movement. He's done nothing for the conservative movement at all. He's just stood in the way of it. We need a guy like Ken Paxton that's going to go and fight, and we need the President to get behind him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why do you think the Senate Leadership Fund and the Establishment Republic. I mean, if you watch Fox News, it's all these senators going, we need Cornyn. We need Cornyn. Is this just good old boy stuff? Like they know him? I mean, they've been attacking Paxton, saying he couldn't win a statewide race every time he's run, and yet he keeps winning. So what's the deal?

[Steve Toth]

It's just rhinos taking care. I hate using that expression, but it's just incumbents taking care of incumbents, and it's. It makes me just completely sick.

[Charlie Kirk]

What do you. I agree. What are you looking at in terms of the state AG race?

[Steve Toth]

I think it's going to be a battle, but honestly, I hope the president does not, you know, I just not support Cornyn. But if he does, Ken's going to win it. 60, 40, maybe 63, 37.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, what about Chip Roy, the Texas Attorney General? That race. Chip Roy. And then we've got.

[Steve Toth]

Yeah, that's good. That's going to be a. That's going to be a shootout between Middleton and Chip Roy. And I. I couldn't call it. I really have a hard time calling it. But here's the thing, is that you're going. You're going from 1 in 10 voters in the primary to 100% in the general. And I, I think you're going to see. I'm sorry. As you go into the runoff. I apologize.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Steve Toth]

If you go into the runoff, you're going from 1 in 10 to about 1 in 20. And it's only the most conservative, committed people that are going to turn out for runoff, which means that John Cornyn is going to get blown out of the water in this race. I mean, it's not even. It's not going to be close.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Steve Toth]

It doesn't matter who endorses John Forenan. John Cornyn is going to go down and he's going to go down big.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

All of the polling shows that, too, Steve. So all the polling has shown a vast majority of the individuals that voted for the third place candidate and the Senate Congressman Wesley Hunt are going towards Paxton.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a turnout question, though, is an interesting aspect of this.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

But this is the point exactly. What you're saying is what almost everyone from Texas that follows Texas closely is that that the runoff has produced a more conservative outcome. And almost every single, and every single outcome for the past number of, of times that this has happened, you see that not changing is what you're saying this election cycle.

[Steve Toth]

It's not, it's not going to change. Although the Carl Rove wing of the party, one of the things that they're really good at, they're going to identify tens of thousands of Democrats that did not vote in the primary, right. And they're going to spend millions of dollars encouraging them to turn out and vote for John Cornyn. And so, yeah, there's going to be this really freakish coalition of moderates and Democrats that are going to try and turn out for him. But the problem is that is that probably 30% of the Republicans that voted for John Cornyn are not going to turn out for a runoff, although the vast majority, 90, 90 plus percent of the conservatives will turn out for Ken.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

Well, and that may be the difference maker in this race, but you're bringing up something super important. The Democrats wanted to make sure they didn't have a runoff in the Senate race so they could try to influence negatively the Republican runoff to that point.

[Charlie Kirk]

What are the rules though? So if you're a Democrat, you can just vote in a Republican run and runoff.

[Unidentified Host/Interviewer]

No.

[Steve Toth]

Yeah. So we have open primaries in Texas. But what it means though is that if you, if you're a Democrat and you voted in the Democrat primary, you can't, you can't vote this runoff. But if you're a Democrat and you just didn't vote the primaries for whatever reason right. Then yeah, you could, you could vote, you could vote in our runoff.

[Charlie Kirk]

Those, that, that's a rule that should be changed. My goodness.

[Steve Toth]

We would love to do that. We would love to do that. We've been trying to do that, that but unfortunately the Texas House, in the Texas House, it's controlled by Democrats and Democrats keep killing that legislation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Last question, Steve. Here. We've got 45 seconds left for you here. A lot of noise was made about turnout being low versus Democrats. Are we concerned about that going into the runoff in the general?

[Steve Toth]

Well, you're going to see record low turnout in the general. It's going to be side concentration of really in the runoff. I'm sorry. In the. In the runoff. Yes. But I'm not concerned about turnout in the general. It'll be fine. We'll do great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, good. Steve Toth, by the way, you're in good standing here because I did this to Representative Burchett. I kept saying Burchette, I think, and he. Correct. Yeah, he corrected me. But it's so great to have you and to get to meet you. You were so ecstatic that Turning Point action got behind you and you pulled it off. It's such an upgrade for Texas. And God bless you, sir. We're gonna have you back on because you're good at this political commentary stuff. So we'll have you back on again soon. God bless you and congrats.

[Steve Toth]

Lord bless you and keep you. I'm so thankful for what God is doing in and through Turning Point to raise up a new standard, new generation of followers of Christ, Christ and patriots.

[Charlie Kirk]

God bless you. We'll see you tomorrow.

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