The Charlie Kirk Show, March 9, 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show | Real America’s Voice

Episode Date: March 9, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk, with Blake, Terrence Bates, John Solomon, Gabriel Victol, Bo Alford, and guest Robert Barnes

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Overview

This episode centers around two interlinked topics:

1. The fallout from a major terror incident at Gracie Mansion in New York City during an anti-Islamification protest, highlighting debates on immigration, radicalization, media bias, and the response from city and national leadership.
2. Ongoing analysis and political implications of the U.S.-Iran conflict, focusing on the effects at home (energy markets, political coalitions, election dynamics), and featuring critical perspectives on foreign policy from inside the 'MAGA' movement.

Throughout, the hosts maintain a provocative, combative tone, sharply critical of "mainstream media," left-wing activists, and political opponents, with the language and framing reflecting the show’s ideological alignment.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Gracie Mansion Terror Incident

[00:55] – [16:27], [30:13] – [42:04]

• Incident Recap:

  • Two young men, Amir Bilat (18) and Ibrahim Kayoumi (19), both US citizens with Turkish and Afghan immigrant parents, were arrested after throwing explosive devices (including at least one confirmed IED—TATP/"Mother of Satan") at an anti-Islamification protest outside Gracie Mansion.
  • Protesters were described as "anti-Muslim," with counter-protesters characterized as violent, often leftist/Antifa types. [00:55–03:19]

• Media & Official Reaction:

  • Mayor Zoran Mandami (the first Muslim mayor of NYC) released a statement denouncing white supremacy and anti-Muslim bigotry, which Kirk and co-hosts ridicule as "doing the meme"—i.e., focusing on white supremacy after a radical Islamist terror attack.
    • Notable Quote: “He did the meme...some Islamists tried to blow up a bunch of people in New York City, and he starts his speech with ‘white supremacy bad.’ That’s what it’s come to.” – Charlie Kirk [15:13]
  • Media outlets initially framed the bombing as possibly being perpetrated by "anti-Islam" demonstrators, a narrative corrected only by social media’s "Community Notes." [19:38–20:10]
    • Quote: "The bombs were thrown at the anti-Muslim protesters, not by the anti-Muslim protesters, as the post and story would lead you to believe." – Charlie Kirk [20:10]

• Radicalization & Immigration Debate:

  • Kirk and panelists argue that the problem is not only "immigration" but "homegrown" radicalization among children of immigrants, highlighting travels to other countries as possible contributing factors. [09:56–11:01]
    • Quote: "You can stop third world immigration, but guess what? Their kids could be radicalized by ISIS videos on the Internet." – Charlie Kirk [09:56]
  • Allegations that Western context "infects" Muslims with leftist ideology, fostering grievance and radicalization.

• On-the-ground Accounts:

  • Interviews with TPSA reporters Gabriel Victol and Bo Alford (who were present) detail the violent, hostile atmosphere among counter-protesters (mainly "white leftists" and Antifa). NYPD is credited for being "very helpful" and keeping law & order, though physically distant at times. [32:08–38:13]
    • Quote: "These were white leftists that were coming here to kill Jake Lang. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that you could hear multiple...saying, kill Jake Lang." – Bo Alford [36:00]

• Societal/Political Implications:

  • Reflection on perceived inability to conduct war against a Muslim country without internal blowback from radicalized individuals in Western nations. [17:53–19:38]
  • Criticism of media for framing the protest organizer (Jake Lang) as a "white supremacist" while labeling the bomb-throwers as "activists." [14:13–14:18]

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2. War With Iran: Oil Disruptions and Political Ramifications

[06:35] – [09:53], [56:40] – [74:40]

• Oil Market Shock:

  • The Iran conflict is described as causing the "largest oil disruption" in history—20% of global supply affected. Kirk and Blake discuss both the economic and historical context, noting deep market uncertainty. [06:35–08:01]

• Domestic Political Analysis / MAGA Base Fractures:

  • In-depth debate (with Robert Barnes) on political risks to the Trump coalition, particularly regarding key anti-war constituencies (youth, libertarians, non-interventionists, minorities). [57:04–65:10]
    • Quote: “Young voters do not support this conflict. They don’t want us involved in foreign conflicts, period. So the sooner the president can bring us home, the better.” – Robert Barnes [64:10]
  • Discussion of how foreign policy adventurism could undermine Republican control, the SAVE Act, and broader populist conservative realignment. [74:15]

• Policy Recommendations:

  • Barnes advocates for "declare victory and leave" (per the Houthis precedent), warning against the temptation to “double down” or seek regime change in Iran.
    • Quote: “Declare victory and go home, and get out as quickly as you can...the longer this drags on, the more political risk develops in the US and the more geopolitical risk comes about in the Middle East.” – Robert Barnes [68:49]
  • Critique of figures like Lindsey Graham as dangerous hawks distracting the administration from domestic priorities. [68:36–68:49]

• Strategic Empathy & Hardliners:

  • Analysis of the succession in Iran, characterizing the new Ayatollah as a hardliner with personal grievances against the U.S. and Israel ("Americans and the Israelis kill his father, mother, wife, son, and niece"). [61:01]
    • Quote: “What’s the likelihood he’s going to be really pro-American? Unlikely. He’s known as more of a hardliner…” – Charlie Kirk [61:01]

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3. Election Integrity and FBI Activity

[77:27] – [89:06]

• New Developments:

  • John Solomon reports the FBI has subpoenaed election data from the Arizona Senate regarding Maricopa County, covering elections back to at least 2020.
    • Quote: "I think what you know, if you go back and you look at the clips, is that Maricopa County's had lots of problems with trust and competence for a long time..." – John Solomon [81:08]

• Broader Federal Actions:

  • Indication that similar probes may be happening in other contested jurisdictions (Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, Michigan).
  • Focus on process crimes and noncompliance with state law as a potential federal crime, not necessarily outright fraud. [85:15–86:12]

• FBI Counterintelligence Monitoring:

  • Solomon announces upcoming reporting on multiple (at least four) FBI counterintelligence investigations targeting Trump and allies, including for statements made about Hunter Biden and Ukraine.

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4. Media, Narrative, and Cultural Commentary

[18:12] – [24:39], [44:39] – [51:22]

• Critique of Media and Elite Institutions:

  • Panel criticizes mainstream press for "misleading" coverage and for allegedly sympathizing with left-wing radicals or foreign-born radicals over Americans.
  • Cites the example of an “immigrants welcome” protester remaining committed after nearly being a bombing victim as proof of leftist “delusion.” [13:14]

• Turn to License Plate Veto Story:

  • Arizona Governor Hobbs is lambasted for vetoing a Turning Point USA license plate bill, which hosts frame as a targeted insult against Charlie Kirk’s legacy. [44:39–47:30]

• Christianity, Identity, and Representative Talarico Discussion:

  • Segment criticizing NYT columnist David French and Texas Rep. James Talarico for "leftist" Christianity—specifically, their positions on abortion, transgenderism, race—concluding such figures are “wolves in sheep’s clothing.” [48:06–51:22]

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5. Culture War/Education & Immigration Dynamics

[91:45] – [98:12]

• Student Visas and American Talent:

  • Hosts celebrate a 36% reduction in foreign student visas (esp. from India, 60% drop), arguing it will restore opportunities for "actual American born talent," especially in STEM. [92:56–96:26]
    • Quote: "Stop paying bloated administrative salaries. Stop adding admin roles...You're making room for actual American born talent to take those spots, especially when it comes to STEM." – Charlie Kirk [94:18]

• National Security Angle:

  • Cites concerns about foreign-born scientists in sensitive defense positions and research labs, alleging repeated spying/leaks to China, Russia, and Iran. [97:07]

• Reframing Doom/Gloom:

  • Deliberate attempt to counteract "doomerism" on the right and to emphasize "white-pill" (optimistic) advances by the current administration, especially on immigration and education. [91:48–98:12]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Radicalization & Western Context:

  • “When you put a bunch of Muslims in a Western context, they instantly are infected with leftist ideology...they just feel different...and then get radicalized even more so.” – Charlie Kirk [11:01]

• On Media Narrative:

  • “Meanwhile, they describe Lang as a white supremacist. And as a bigot.” – Charlie Kirk [14:18]

• Guest Testimony – Gabriel Victol:

  • "It seemed like these people wanted nothing but trouble. And that's what ended up happening later with the Muslim who committed an act of terrorism. And thank God that bomb did not go off." – Gabriel Victol [32:22]

• On Political Risk of War:

  • "This undermines and sabotages that entire public perception and thereby impairs his coalition from an electoral perspective." – Robert Barnes [57:37]

• On Iranian Succession:

  • “What’s the likelihood he’s going to be really pro-American? Unlikely. He’s known as more of a hardliner…” – Charlie Kirk [61:01]

• On Student Visas:

  • “India, the top sender of students to the United States, saw an especially steep decline...a drop of more than 60%...that is significant.” – Charlie Kirk [94:18]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Content/Guest | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |----------------------------|------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Gracie Mansion bombing | Kirk, Blake, panel | 00:55 – 16:27 | | Media bias on attack | Kirk, Blake | 19:38 – 20:10 | | Field reports from NYC | Gabriel Victol, Bo Alford | 32:08 – 42:04 | | Iran conflict & U.S. oil | Kirk, Blake | 06:35 – 09:53 | | Iran war political risk | Robert Barnes interview | 56:40 – 74:40 | | FBI election investigations| John Solomon | 77:27 – 89:06 | | Turning Point license plate| Kirk, Blake, panel | 44:39 – 47:47 | | American student/visa decline | Kirk, Blake | 91:45 – 98:12 |

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Language & Tone

• Combative, urgent, and openly ideological.
• Frequent sarcasm, rhetorical questions, and hyperbole ("pet terrorist immigrants").
• Language often frames opportunity vs. threat, us vs. them.

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Summary for Listeners

If you missed the episode, you missed an intense, detail-rich discussion of the Gracie Mansion terror incident—how media, officials, and activists are framing it; a cautionary critique of US foreign policy’s domestic blowback; and analysis of how these disruptions affect elections, immigration, and the "culture war" at home. Field reporters on the ground give a sense of the real-world volatility and violence at political protests. The political risk for Trump over Iran is dissected by Robert Barnes. Reports of federal investigations into election integrity in battleground states are revealed. The show closes on a “white-pill” note, highlighting the administration’s pushback against mass immigration through decreased international student visas.

Throughout, the hosts exhibit skepticism toward immigration and official narratives, blending news analysis with culture war commentary, and calling for vigilance and political action amongst their base.

Transcript

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[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

Amir Bilat and Ibrahim Kayoumi have are now reportedly in federal custody, being interviewed by the FBI in connection to the devices. Our Bill Malusian has learned that Bilat's

[Blake]

parents are naturalized U.S. citizens from Turkey,

[Charlie Kirk]

and Kayumi's parents are naturalized citizens from Afghanistan.

On Saturday, a protest was held outside Gracie Mansion, where I live with my wife Rama. Neither of us were home at the time. This was a vile protest rooted in white supremacy entitled Stop the Islamic takeover of New York City. I'm the first Muslim mayor of our city. Anti Muslim bigotry is nothing new to me. Nor is it anything new for the 1 million or so Muslim New Yorkers who know this city as our home.

Both men that were arrested following these protests in relation to those two explosive devices admitted to having been inspired by isis. Officers have located a third suspicious device in a car that is thought to

[Blake]

belong to one of two suspects who

[Charlie Kirk]

were taken into custody yesterday in connection with two other suspicious devices. So now we've got a total of

[Blake]

three suspicious devices that have been uncovered

[Charlie Kirk]

here in the Big Apple.

[Podcast Host]

At least one of the devices that

[Charlie Kirk]

has been confiscated is a confirmed ied. People ask boots on the ground. No boots on the ground. The ground. Four weeks, Two weeks, six weeks.

[Gabriel Victol]

Go in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Go in. President Trump knows. I know. You don't tell the enemy. You don't tell the press. You don't tell anybody what. What your limits would be on an operation. We're willing to go as far as we need to in order to be successful. We're fighting to win. It means we set the terms. We'll know when they're not capable of fighting.

[Blake]

There'll be a point where they'll have

[Charlie Kirk]

no choice but to do that. Whether they know it or not, they will be combat ineffective. They will surrender. Typically, the understanding of a surrender is person to person.

Is that be required in a matter like this?

Well, there's a lot of different ways. Whether they want to admit it or not, whether their pride lets them say it out loud or not. It's President Trump will Set the terms of that. Some Iranians are concerned that the Kurds

[John Solomon]

will carve out kind of an autonomous

[Charlie Kirk]

region, as they did in Syria and Iraq.

We're not looking to the Kurds going in.

[Terrence Bates]

We're very friendly with the Kurds, as

[Charlie Kirk]

you know, but we don't want to

[Terrence Bates]

make the war any more complex than it already is. We don't want.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, I have ruled it out.

[Terrence Bates]

I don't want the Kurds going in.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't want to see the Kurds. Kurds get hurt, get killed.

[Terrence Bates]

We've had a good relationship.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're willing to go in, but we really.

[John Solomon]

I've told them I don't want them to go in.

[Terrence Bates]

The map of Iran will look the same.

[Charlie Kirk]

War is complicated enough without having getting the Kurds involved.

[Terrence Bates]

If you look at the budget, actually, we're working on right now, and we'll

[Charlie Kirk]

have the T. HUD budget, you know, transportation and HUD budget.

[Terrence Bates]

We restore most of the cuts and even go higher than previous years on

[Charlie Kirk]

many of the programs that Doge slashed. When I met our nominee for HUD secretary, then he was nominee, talked a

nice game, but he doesn't seem to

have the clout to make those views prevail over the Doge people, over the cut, cut, cut people.

[Terrence Bates]

But we have worked really hard in the budget and gotten bipartisan support to

[Charlie Kirk]

increase these amounts and undo a lot

[Terrence Bates]

of the cuts, which are essential.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, sir. How you doing?

I don't know if that's a. I recognize these guys.

[Bo Alford]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And if you know them.

[John Solomon]

Hi.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

Okay.

[John Solomon]

How. How did this come to be?

[Terrence Bates]

How did we happen to have people.

[Charlie Kirk]

Julian, he's the president of the institute,

so he has the right to be.

Well, that's.

That's yet to be determined. You don't recognize that he's the president.

[John Solomon]

Absolutely not. You don't work for yus.

[Charlie Kirk]

We are the outside.

[John Solomon]

We do not work for you. So.

[Terrence Bates]

So why are we.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why are we having lawyers?

[Blake]

I'm not sure for how long, but

[Charlie Kirk]

if you don't work at this agency or this institute, I think we have a problem.

Right.

[Podcast Host]

I understand that your position is into two. You don't work.

[Terrence Bates]

This is going sideways very quickly.

[John Solomon]

I think so, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

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greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right. Happy Monday. It is March 9, 2026. We're here at the Bitcoin.com studio. Blake, welcome this morning. Howdy. Lots of lots of news this weekend. We are in 10 days of the Iran conflict and what CNBC is describing as the largest oil disruption, energy disruption in history.

[Blake]

In history.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what it's calling it.

[Blake]

1972 or 73, I think it was.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what they're calling it. I'm not sure I buy it. But yeah, the Americans, it's been so big. It's oil supply. Disruption in history might be a slight qualifier.

[Blake]

I guess most people are too young to remember and including me in. Yeah, in the 70s, after the Yom Kippur war, a lot of the Middle east did an oil embargo of the West. And it's interesting because gas lines, sometimes people speculate that's there's that famous what the heck happened in 1972 or so is that chart where everything starts going bad in the early 70s. And one of the arguments is it was the oil embargo. It suddenly made energy more expensive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, about 20% of the global supply has been disrupted for about nine, 10 days now, more than double the previous record set during the suez crisis of 1956. So that's per CNBC. There's virtually no spare capacity to address the problem because Saudi Arabia, UAE are cut off from the global oil market. Anyway, so I listen, I think there is a. Apparently it's not a supply issue. It's just there is a shock to the system and people don't know how it's going to resolve. So uncertainty drives fear. Oil is back down under $100 a barrel, though it's off its think the market is sort of trying to find where the line really should be. But there's definitely some fear rattling the markets. We can get into that in a little bit, but we want to start with the lead today of New York in New York. It was a very disruptive, discouraging, dangerous moment that happened where self radicalized isis, they call them protesters. These are terrorists used explosives called Mother of Satan inside bombs thrown at Gracie Mansion. So Gracie Mansion is of course where Mayor Mamdani and his Islamist loving wife live. And there were anti Muslim protests saying they didn't want the, they wanted to stop the Islamification, the Muslim takeover of New York City. These two terrorist suspects in the Gracie Square terror incident, amir Balat, who's 18, and Ibrahim Kayyumi, 19, are both US citizens. Balat's parents are Turkish immigrants who are naturalized as U.S. citizens in 2017. Kayoumi's parents are Afghan immigrants. His mother was naturalized in 2009 and his father in 2004. Yay, yay.

[Blake]

Isn't it great that we're all welcomed here?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yay, Yay, immigration. So it underlies a bigger problem, which is, yeah, you can stop third world immigration, but guess what? Their kids could be radicalized by ISIS videos on the Internet.

[Blake]

There's going to be people online who are going to point out like this is a homegrown, this isn't an immigration problem, it's a homegrown terrorism problem because they're, they're U.S. citizens.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And that's, I mean, there's seems to be indication that these two young terrorists, budding terrorists, were potentially radicalized abroad as well. Trips to Turkey, trips to Saudi Arabia, which, another funny instance here. Trips to Melbourne, Australia, another known terrorist training ground.

[Terrence Bates]

Yep.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the brave new world where the west has been so Islamified that you can now get radicalized in Melbourne, Australia.

[Blake]

That's actually totally the case. If you talk to people in the Middle east, they'll say a lot of the most radical people are in the West. There are a lot more radical Muslims in London or in Birmingham, I think, than there are in Dubai.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, it's interesting because when you put a bunch of Muslims in a Western context, they instantly are infected with leftist ideology, which says that they're part of a systemically oppressive culture and therefore they end up reacting even more stridently against the west because they just feel different. They feel like they're oppressed, living in their own skin in the Western context. And then they get radicalized Even more so. So let's go through some of the details here. There's a substance known as TATP which is enormously quote unquote volatile. It's extremely powerful substance. It's become the ISIS explosive substance of choice. 286

Fox News has learned of a disturbing development involving the type of explosive used in the attempted attack and just how dangerous it is. Let's bring in retired NYPD Inspector Paul Morrow, who has more information on this device that was found. So it was a homemade device, Paul, but not necessarily a cheesy one, in other words?

[Terrence Bates]

No, not at all, John. And I have to tell you, having

[Charlie Kirk]

done about 15 years work worth of this kind of work, counterterrorism work, this

[Terrence Bates]

is a bit of a game changer. First of all, let me start by

[Charlie Kirk]

saying New York City got extremely lucky yesterday. TATP is enormously volatile.

[Gabriel Victol]

It is not very stable.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's extremely powerful. And Those bombs, those IEDs are filled with nuts and bolts and very destructive elements. And basically when they go off, they're like dozens and dozens of bullets flying in every direction. This is a protester, a leftist protester who was there saying all immigrants are welcome. Everybody's there. As this Islamist hucks the bomb over his head to 85.

[Terrence Bates]

We were born and raised in New York and we want everyone here to

[Blake]

stay in New York.

[Terrence Bates]

You don't get to come from outside

[Blake]

and then tell everyone.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just an incredible moment there.

[Blake]

Is there any captures the left like the alliance of the left really? Well, you have this middle aged, you know, kindness is everything. I have the sign outside my house, you know, immigrants welcome, lecturing everyone. And then one of his pet terrorist immigrants jumps over his head and throws this bomb. And of course importantly, we should note that he has not learned his lesson at all. Person who seems to be him on on X had a tweet. I was in the middle of saying as a born and raised New Yorker, we welcome everyone into the city when he threw that over my head and I still stand by it as a born and raised in New Yorker, everyone is welcome.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then he goes after Jake Lang, who was the gentleman that had organized the counter protest. Ironically, Lang is being described as a white supremacist, as a bigot, an Islamophobe. And ABC is, this is literal news.

[Blake]

He's the only person you're allowed to attack in all of this. When he didn't try to blow anyone,

[Charlie Kirk]

they refer to the terrorist as an activist. ABC News right there, an activist. Meanwhile, they describe Lang as a white supremacist. And as a bigot. All right, and then we have to get to this. We have enough time here. Mayor Mamdani does the meme. 27 at 258. Apologies.

On Saturday, a protest was held outside Gracie Mansion, where I live with my wife Rama. Neither of us were home at the time. This was a vile protest rooted in white supremacy entitled Stop the Islamic takeover of New York City. I'm the first Muslim mayor of our city. Anti Muslim bigotry is nothing new to me. Nor is it anything new for the 1 million or so Muslim New Yorkers who know this city as our home.

He did the meme. We'll explain that in a second. But yeah. So some Islamists tried to blow up a bunch of people in New York City, and he starts his speech with white supremacy. Bad. That's what it's come to. All right, if you guys have been listening to the show for any amount of time, you will have heard us talk about Strong Cell. It was one of Charlie's favorite supplements. Why? Because it has a proprietary delivery mechanism of an amazing enzyme. Enzyme called nadh. It's the power source for every cell in your body. So here we go. Blake's already got his open. I'm coming next. Here he goes. Bottoms up. If you are struggling with brain fog, fatigue, constant illness, you gotta try StrongCell. Give it four to six weeks. I'm telling you, this stuff will change your life, Give you energy that you've never experienced. And it's a 90. It has a 90 day money back guarantee. Go to strongcell.com, use promo code Charlie. Strongcell.com promo code Charlie. Save 20% at checkout. Amazing, amazing stuff. Check it out today. We'll be right back.

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[Blake]

It is. It really is. And like people are going to cheer them on and make excuses for them. Let's just show the example here. Let's throw it up. It's 259. So this was a local NBC, the NBC New York outlet. Multiple arrests made after suspicious devices found outside Gracie Mansion during anti Islam rally and counter protest. So the obvious implication here is that the protesters left these bombs and, oh, you know, the violent anti Islamic demonstrators.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and the community note there for the whim, the bombs were thrown at the anti Muslim protesters, not by the anti Muslim protesters, as the post and story would lead you to believe. The witnesses say the attacker shouted al Akbar as they threw the bombs at the protesters. So thank you, community notes. But it didn't stop the, you know, failed fake news media. This is another 1. Axios explosive 269 explosive device thrown outside New York City Mayor Mamdani's residence. So all the, all the headlines lead you to believe that somebody was coming after the mayor that they want. No, these were Islamists attacking a protest against Islamification of America. So that is our moment. We have to. I mean, we have the meme here. This is the famous Norm MacDonald tweet. What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device and kill 50 million Americans, imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims.

[Blake]

Exactly. And it was pointed out today, like if younger people probably. We basically live through this alternate universe where we're told that 9, 11 happened and it caused, you know, probably caused a surge of Islamophobia. That's mom Donnie.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what mom Donnie always talks about. And it's all his aunt was scared to write on the point.

[Blake]

It's completely fake. It's all completely fake. That what happened immediately is President Bush came out and took pains to say, this is not Islam. It's a tiny number of extremist actors. He's the one who popularized the phrase Islam is a religion of peace that people make fun of a lot because it's not really true. And they endlessly push that. And on top of that, they massively increased the Muslim population of the United States by bringing them in as immigrants throughout the entire war on terrorism period, as refugees, as that whole spiel where, you know, they were allies in the Middle east, so we had to bring them here, and we're seeing the outcomes here. Who wants to bet those Afghan immigrants who came here about 15 years ago, they were probably here because, oh, they wanted to get out of the Islamic radicalism of Afghanistan. Their lives were in danger. And they come here and they have a son who's an Islamic radical. That's happened over and over and over. Again. And it's going to keep happening over and over and over again.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, especially when you have like the context, the backdrop. We can't escape it. This is a, we're in the 10th day of this conflict in Iran. Emotions are heightened, tensions are heightened. And they're sleeper cells and maybe they're not organized as you might think. Maybe they're not actual Iranian guard sleeper cells that have infiltrated the country. There's probably that too. But these kids were self radicalized. That's all it takes. It just takes a couple Internet videos and an ideology and a feeling that they live in an oppressive system egged on by leftists like the guy who had the bomb chucked over his head. That completely vindicates their.

[Blake]

And on top of that, another way we've become vulnerable. Remember, for example, throughout the Biden administration they repurposed the FBI and DHS to say the chief terror threat is white dudes who go to Latin mass. And so they wouldn't investigate this sort of thing. Just like they wouldn't, they wouldn't want to police the border so anyone could come in over the border with Chinese espionage. They shut down their China espionage probe because too many of the people they were investigating were Chinese. And it felt kind of racist to do that. Felt really awkward.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And that's the decision we've made over and over and over again that we intentionally lobotomized ourselves. We've intentionally made ourselves stupid. To not notice the obvious, to not observe the obvious, to not think the obvious. And I think a lot of us might think, oh well, we'll just avoid saying something because it's impolite, but everyone knows it. But for a lot of people, if you are not saying the obvious thing, they will stop thinking the obvious thing. In this case, the obvious thing being Islam as a religion has way more violent radicals than any other major religion. And when you welcome them into the west in huge numbers, this results in terrorist attacks that kill a lot of people. But even if they aren't killing a huge amount, they just totally distort life. Think about all of the public events where you have all of this security theater that you used to not need. Think about all these events where, oh, you have all these bollards and these vehicles everywhere to make sure that some vehicle can't drive in and kill a bunch of people. And then you go to a country that doesn't have this level of migration and they don't have those things because they don't need those things.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, and that's the sectarian violence that is ravaged the old world has now come to the new world by immigration. And it's something we didn't need to do. 276 though this is one of the New York City terrorists home in Pennsylvania. It's a $1.8 million five bedroom, four bath, 4,700 square foot mansion. It's almost 4,800. And yet these young men were still so radicalized and so put upon by a protest, which is the most American thing. You may not like what Mr. Lang was doing, the anti Islam protest in New York City, but that is as American as apple pie. And these foreigners come in and they throw bombs at them. And guess who the press defends? The bomb throwers? The Islamists. They call Jake Lang a white supremacist and a bigot for doing exactly what the founders intended, which is to peacefully protest. But the foreigners didn't. Oh, but I guess they're not foreigners because they have a piece of paper.

[Blake]

The million, the million $2 million house says it all. That you can welcome people into your country and basically give them everything and they will still resent you, they will still hate you. And a lot of people here will be happy to assist them.

[Charlie Kirk]

We had a couple of journalists on the scene in New York. They're going to give us their firsthand accounts in just a second. Stay right there.

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Iran has its next supreme leader after Mojtaba Khamenei was named the new ruler of the embattled Islamic Republic. The 56 year old is one of the sons of the late Ayatollah who was killed in US Strikes just days into the current war. Khamenei has never been elected or even appointed to a government position and is said to hold even more hardline views than his father. Meantime, while you were sleeping, Iran ramped up attacks on Israel and its neighboring Gulf countries. Also happening over the weekend, the US Military confirming a seventh death related to Iranian retaliatory attacks. The latest death happened in Saudi Arabia, where the soldier was stationed. President Trump is drawing a line in the sand, saying that he will not sign any bills until the Safeguard American voter eligibility or SAVE act is approved by the Senate. 47 made the announcement on Truth Social, writing in one post, quote, the United States Senate should focus on exclusively if necessary, the Save America Act. It's what everyone wants. In a separate post, he emphatically writes, pass the Save America act now. It's all people care about. President Trump calling for the full version to be passed, not a watered down measure that would include voter ID and proof of citizenship. The commander in chief also wants no mail in ballots except for the military illness or for disability. He's encouraging Senate Majority Leader John Thune to use the talking filibuster in order to get the measure over the finish line and circumvent the 60 vote threshold needed to pass it. Two people are in custody this morning in connection to a bomb that was set off outside New York City Mayor Zoran Mandami's home during an anti Islam protest. In a statement, Mamdani writing, such hate has no place in New York City. It's an affront to our city's values and the unity that defies who we are. He goes on to write, quote, the attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it's reprehensible and the antithesis of who we are. Investigators say the two suspects in the case haven't been charged yet, but reportedly told law enforcement they were inspired by watching ISIS videos.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Gabriel Victol]

Thank you for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, of course. Thank you for making the time here. Tell us what you saw. How close were you to this incident and lay out kind of the dynamic between the two sides.

[Gabriel Victol]

Yeah, of course. Well, so both the sides, you know, the leftist side specifically, was already very rowdy and violent prior to the situation with the bomb there. But, you know, Beau and I were right next to each other and we were what I would say, a couple yards away, a couple feet away even from the incident happening. Yeah, you can see some of the footage there of them burning flags. They actually beat up another journalist after that flag burning happened. They chased him out, you know, saying that he was a Zionist, yelling at him. They ended up punching him, kicking him down on the ground. Yeah, that's that footage right there. It was a very hostile environment, to say the least. And it seemed like these people wanted nothing but trouble. And that's what ended up happening later with the Muslim who committed an act of terrorism. And thank God that bomb did not go off.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Seriously, Bo, give us your perspective of what happened. And do we know where these people came from? Were they New Yorkers. Did you get that vibe? Or were they shipped in from somewhere else and they're paid agitators? What could you surmise?

[Bo Alford]

Yeah, absolutely. I would start by saying these were not regular everyday protesters. These aren't people that are just coming in and holding signs. This is a lot more violent of a crowd. Actually texted my wife when I got there. I was like, honey, this is a little bit different. There's a lot of aggression. There's a lot of people getting hurt, attacked, and just say a prayer for me. I do believe that the antifa crowd did play a part in fueling this attack. They were just attacking anyone that they disagreed with. It was only God's grace that got us out untouched. Thankfully, we were not recognized, or we probably would have been one of the people getting attacked as well. But, yeah, when the bombing happened, we were. Or the attempted bombing happened, we were probably 50, 20, 20 to 30ft away. And I was actually posting another video because we're getting everything in real time and I just hear everyone screaming bomb. And they're running away. And then I see the brave NYPD actually going into the scene and thankfully taking the man down.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jeez. So there was anti Muslim protesters on one side, and then there were, I guess, pro Muslim protesters. I mean, did it seem like the pro Muslim or the counter protesters, however you want to describe them, were they. Was it mostly Muslims or was it mostly sort of just like kind of leftist antifa types?

[Gabriel Victol]

It was definitely like the antifa types. It was definitely some white New Yorkers. I would probably say a lot of that. You know, New Yorkers are very. They go hard in the paint. A lot of them are very aggressive when it comes to, you know, their beliefs. And it seemed like, you know, and Bo, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is on par with Minneapolis Antifa. When we really went in there and we saw. I mean, right as we got out of our Uber to show up to this event, there was a kid with a freedom shirt getting berated. And it was. It was instant. Like, right as we showed up, we saw some kid get chased out. And I. It just gave me flashbacks in Minneapolis.

[Bo Alford]

Yeah, absolutely. These were white leftists that were coming here to kill Jake Lang. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that you could hear multiple of the members saying, kill Jake Lang. They were doing everything they could to get to him. They were trying to cross the barricades when he ran away from the attempted bombing. The leftists then went to the other side to try and cut him off. They were doing everything in their power to kill him.

[Blake]

What kind of role were police playing through all of this? Do you think they were mostly being helpful preventing violence? Were they sort of useless? Give us a sense of how NYPD was behaving throughout this.

[Bo Alford]

Yeah, the police were actually very helpful, I do have to say they, as soon as something went, went down, if you saw someone getting attacked, they stepped in and they tried to stop it. They were actually getting very angry at multiple times and were chasing people down using profanities and you know, trying to get them arrested. So they were, they were very helpful. Only thing I would say is they were a little bit too far away at times. Took them a little bit too long to get to the scene. But at the end of the day, I understand it. You have to let the two sides demonstrate and you can't help that some of the leftist members are as aggressive as they were.

[Gabriel Victol]

Yeah, this is probably the most helpful NYPD has ever been. While we've been in New York, we've gone to a lot calmer protests in New York and they always are on the side of the liberals, it seems. But you know, on that day they were 100% trying to keep law and order. And you know, a lot of those police officers are absolute patriots for what they did on that day.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, we're just like you said, Gabe, we're just lucky that those bombs didn't detonate. I mean, cuz that could have killed a lot of people. I mean they're. Another question I have though is how old were the age of the protest? Was it all over? Was it skewing younger, Skewing older?

[Gabriel Victol]

Definitely younger. Definitely on the younger side for this one. I know that some of them have, some of them were probably in their like later 20s, but a lot of them seem to be around that, you know, teenage to mid-20s range, about the age of Bo and I.

[Charlie Kirk]

So any idea how they organized? You're just assuming this is antifa networks.

[Bo Alford]

Yeah, I would say antifa networks and I would also probably say Reddit. I don't have anything to verify that information, but I do see leftists gathering on Reddit in threads and in communities. That would be. If I were a guessing man, that would be what I would say.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know if you have, Gabe, if you're going to chime in, I have a question though, about Jake Lang and the sort of the protesters on that side. What were they doing? What were they saying? Were they instigating as well or were they just Kind of. I mean, as far as I could tell, they were just in front of the Gracie Mansion saying stop the Islamification of New York. Did they instigate anything?

[Bo Alford]

Definitely not. At the event where Antifa showed up, I mean, there were times, do not get me wrong, you could say you're instigating when you know you're using a goat like he did the night before. That I would say is instigation. But during this event. No, I think that they were being very peaceful and the people that were supporting Jake Lang, all they were doing was saying freedom and you know, just supporting American values.

[Charlie Kirk]

What happened with the goat the night before? If you can use PG language just in case.

[Gabriel Victol]

Yeah, yeah, he was pretending to have relations with a goat the night before. He pulled up in a U haul, open the door, you know, he had an American flag and he was, he was basically mocking the Muslims. Which, you know, some may say it's funny, some may say it's crude, but that seems to be a lot of the stuff that the leftist. The next day at the protest where the attempted bombing occurred, they were actually yelling that, you know, they were calling him names that I probably shouldn't say on the show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Got it. So you think the incident the night before could have been what maybe triggered some of the backlash. Do we know if that's where these young. I mean, it's crazy how young the would be terrorists are. I guess they are terrorists. They tried. They, they're like 18 and 20, I believe, or 18 and 19. Both have parents that were naturalized from Middle Eastern countries, Afghanistan and Turkey. Is there any indication. Did you see those suspects around before they threw the IEDs or did they just kind of came out of nowhere?

[Gabriel Victol]

Yeah, not that we recognized at least.

[Bo Alford]

Yeah, that's actually a really good point. They were not someone that I recognized unless they were wearing masks before. Those were, they appeared to be individuals that came later in the protest probably for that specific reason.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, gentlemen, I'm just glad you're safe. That could have been really bad. I mean, we always are praying for you guys, our TPSA frontlines team and you know, it just thank God that those bombs didn't detonate. That's all I can say. Thank you for your first hand account, gentlemen. And brave, brave guys here that are doing the Lord's work capturing these protests and counter protests live on the street. So thank you guys, we'll talk to you soon.

[Bo Alford]

Thank you guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Yeah, there's, there's a Choose Life license plate. There's firefighter license plate. There's a Fiesta bowl license plate. There's a God Bless America one. That's not actually what I have. There's an Alice Cooper one. There's a Route 66 ones. There's a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

And by the way, so when you do this, it's a voluntary this is not like taxpayer dollars are getting siphoned off the general fund and sent to Turning Point. It's a voluntary $17 contribution that would go to Turning Point, just like when you do the other ones. There's a small fee that gets sent to whatever cause you're celebrating. But instead of allowing Turning Point to be one of those hundred plus groups that you could do that in the state of Arizona, for an organization that's based here in Arizona, Charlie decided to make Arizona his home. He worked his butt off for this state. Love this state. Every time we'd come back to Arizona, Charlie would be, oh, I love coming back. I love coming home. And this was his home. And this is where Erica's home is. Governor Hobbs vetoed it because she said,

[Blake]

in America, we resolve our political differences at the ballot box, no matter who it targets. Political violence puts us all in harm's way and damages our sacred democratic institutions. I will continue working towards solutions that bring people together. But this bill falls short of that standard by inserting politics into a function of government that should remain nonpartisan.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, sure. I find this obviously highly offensive. That a son of Arizona. Yeah, he came from Chicago, but this was the home he chose. A son of Arizona who was murdered in cold blood, taken down by political violence. An assassination the most public and tragic in a generation or more. And she has the gall to stop the legislature, stop the people of Arizona from honoring him and his legacy. Shame on you, Governor Hobbs. I can't wait till Andy Biggs is our governor and we get to do this.

[Blake]

It's just truly grotesque because if they had passed one to honor, like, you know, if there was some odious, like, borderline criminal person who got killed in Arizona and became a left wing cause celeb and they passed that license plate, she would sign in in a hard way. She would absolutely do it. But because we had a person on the right who was grotesquely murdered by someone on the left for his advocacy, and someone just wanted to make a license plate that you could voluntarily pay for the right to use, and she vetoes it. And the obvious answer is because she despises Charlie. And deep down, I suspect she's kind of glad he got shot.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's dark stuff.

[Blake]

A lot of them are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And so of course she was going to veto it. We shouldn't be surprised at all, because that's the type of person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. Can you imagine if George Floyd was an Arizona?

[John Solomon]

Exactly.

[Blake]

That's what it is.

[Charlie Kirk]

George Floyd would have got a license plate in the state. Hobbs would have signed that. And I think you're right. I think deep down she despises Charlie, and she may very well be happy that what happened. I mean, I. I don't put anything past these degenerate people. It's just.

[Terrence Bates]

Just.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's inexcusably cruel to veto that. That bill. So shame on you, Governor Hobbs. And. Yeah, just disgusting. I told the team that we were gonna get to. I'll get to that next. Next hour, actually on number 25. But let's get to James Tallarico.

[Blake]

Alrighty, so we have. This is not even so much about James Tallarico. It's an opportunity to beat up on David French.

[Charlie Kirk]

By the way, that's. That's Blake's favorite pastime.

[Blake]

Yes, indeed. So I believe Charlie only met David French once. And it was.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was pretty respectful, I think. Nrb. So a national religious broadcasters event. We were on the Expo floor, just walking the floor, and there comes David French. And it was respectful. It was. And then I talked to David French after for a little while. He's a very effeminate man in person, I believe it.

[Blake]

But he has this appalling bit that he ran over the weekend. He's now a New York Times opinion columnist, which is, you know, fulfilling his dreams. And it was titled James Talarico is a Christian X ray. And unfortunately, I can't. I'm not a New York Times subscriber, and I can't get the whole article to load right now in my.

[Charlie Kirk]

But what's the gist?

[Blake]

Paywall bypasser. But it was basically that James Tallarico is one of the few openly Christian politicians in the United States who acts like a Christian. And by acting like a Christian, he reveals a profound contrast with so many members of the Maga Christian Movement that has dominated political life for 10 years. And. And he goes off on a bit where he does this whole thing on, okay, you know, there's Christian orthodoxy, which is, you know, right. Right beliefs. But we don't put enough emphasis on. I believe he called it ortho cardia. I don't even know if that's a real word, but it basically means right heart. And so he says that James Talarico has the right heart. That he has. He has the fruits of the spirit, actually, is what he says that you see Talarico, and he's so obviously kind and loving and Christian, and he basically just. I don't think he literally says it, but the clear message is James Talarico is the best Christian in American politics right now. And that's really galling to me because, okay, if he was just a left wing social Democrat, like, if he said, I disagree with my party on a lot of things, but like, I have to be on the left for, you know, you've seen the reasons. I would be extremely disappointed, but I'd vaguely get it. But there's something really unsettling with Talarico. Talarico is a true left wing zealot. And the fact that he dresses up, dresses it up in Christianity is what makes him more sinister, not less sinister. That he goes to the Bible and says, actually the Bible. The text of the Bible says that we need abortion and we can't restrict it. The text of the Bible is why I believe it's good for us to mutilate children because of some fad. The text of the Bible is why I think I believe. What did he say? White people are a virus. No, we carry a virus. That the white race as a cast carries this virus that they infect the world with.

[Charlie Kirk]

Here's a new little James Taurico video that Brandon Gill on Earth 295.

[Podcast Host]

Something that you love that's not family or friends.

[Blake]

I love and just say this because

[Bo Alford]

it's on my mind.

[Charlie Kirk]

The trans children who showed up yesterday at the state capitol to advocate for their humanity. They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch. Who do you love that's not your friends or family? Trans children.

[Blake]

And we love trans children. That's why we don't want them to be literally, irreversibly messed up.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's not what he said.

[Blake]

And yeah, that's definitely not what he's saying. And it says a lot that there's a type of Christian out there, David French, who thinks that that's the most Christian guy we have in politics right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wolf in sheep's clothing. We'll be back. Hour two. Don't go anywhere.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right.

Welcome back hour to the Charlie Kirk show is underway. And welcoming back to the show. It's been a while. I think the last time he was on was with Charlie is Robert Barnes, Barnes Law LLP.com and co host of Viva and Barnes. He also does, I believe a show with Rich Barris, another good friend of the of the show. Robert, welcome back. Welcome back.

Yeah, glad to be here.

Great to see you. You have emerged as a very strident voice online political commentator that is not in favor of the strikes that are happening in Iran. Why don't you give us your perspective? Cuz you are a MAGA guy in a lot of ways. You have been part of this coalition, a big supporter of the presidents, but you are not in support of this war. It's important that we hear this side of the argument. What is your perspective on it and why are you against it?

So I see it as a threefold approach. One is the domestic political risk that it poses to the Trump 2024 coalition going forward in terms of political capital to get things done on the Hill. But Also in terms of the midterms and in ultimately 2028, the second area of concern is geopolitical. In other words, how likely are we able to achieve a, an objective that would be favorable to American interest and would be perceived as favorable to American interests going forward? And then third is whether or not this is a use of our military that is constitutional, that is clearly legal and lawful, and that won't put our men and men and women in at undue risk of harm for a unachievable objective. So from the domestic political side, I just think it, it fractures the Trump 2024 base. It shrinks MAGA. More and more people are not identifying as MAGA. That's why you can get, I think Richard Barris calls people's pundit, calls it purification through subtraction. So Trump may look at it and say, oh, I have 90% support, but it's of a shrinking base. That's not a good situation to be in politically, in terms of domestic political capital to get things done on the Hill. But also in terms of the midterms, there was a big part of his base that was anti war. There was another part of his base that's libertarian that leans non intervention. Since 2015, he's campaigned very effectively as the peace president, the anti war candidate. This undermines and sabotages that entire public perception and thereby impairs his coalition from an electoral perspective and political capital. That was the degree to which he is seen as unpopular on the Hill limits his ability to get things done legislatively. The. But then you go to the geopolitics of it, and it's for all the reasons and the military side of it that Charlie identified last year that you dig into this. It's unlikely that a regime, a we could attain a peaceful, free Iranian society and government through bombing them into such an agreement. And so as he pointed out that, you know, the Shia are built on a culture of suffering. It's, you know, the. Charlie was very good at developing strategic empathy and people sometimes confuse that with sympathy. It's you, you don't sympathize with the Iranian regime. You can strategically empathize with it so that you understand it. And if you understand the culture and the people and the people in power, but also the people that could contest or challenge that power are, then you have a sense of how probable or likely a sequence of events are using military or martial means. And what Charlie identified is that they have the, they have the means to militarily resist in ways that we cannot completely suppress, that they're unlikely to change their regime because the part of the Shia is a lot made. Charlie loved to study religions around the world and understand what motivated people around the world. But the Shia Islam religion is built on martyrdom. Them, it's built on suffering, it's built on sacrifice. That's why the Ayatollah was happy to be martyred at the beginning of this conflict. And he's now been replaced by his son. His son, who is more. This is one of the points Charlie made that you got to look at who is likely to replace the existing regime and there you look at who is likely to replace him. Well, it's more hardliners, people that are more likely to acquire nuclear weapons rather than less. More likely to be anti US and anti Israel than less.

Yes.

The new Ayatollah, New Ayatollah just had the Americans and the Israelis kill his father, kill his mother, kill his wife, kill his son and kill his niece. One year old niece. So what's the likelihood he's going to be really pro American? Unlikely. He's known as more of a hardliner, etc. So then you have the. So that's, you know, scenario number one is that it's unlikely to achieve a peaceful, free, democratic, pro Israel, pro US regime. So why are we risking American resources? Why are we risking American men and women? Why are we risking Trump's domestic political coalition and his political capital?

[Blake]

Yeah, and I guess I feel like there's a lot of disagreement over how much, how much it is splitting the coalition because you can produce polls that say support for the war among GOP voters is very high.

[Charlie Kirk]

I've seen those.

[Blake]

But I think a thing people are missing is that this matters the most with that sort of, that marginal, maybe that last 10% of the Trump coalition that got him to where he was.

[Bo Alford]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Where he was winning all the swings states, where he was winning the popular vote. It was the people where that, oh, peace president, no new war. That stuff appealed to them a lot more. And I think that a lot of when people disagree over this, they're missing that. That's the group that. And they're also the most marginal. They were least likely to respond to polls and they're more detached. They maybe weren't voting in other elections.

[Charlie Kirk]

And young people.

[Blake]

And young people. Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

And young people. So, Robert, you and I talked on the phone and we had these students from Rutgers and Appalachian State and we asked them, what do young Trump voters think of this? And here was their answers. 306 copy. So are you Seeing protests, Are you seeing, are people gathering in the, in the square, in the quad? What kind of activities are you seeing this manifest in? I'm mostly seeing things through online platforms, people on Instagram or Twitter just, you know, really going in at President Trump and being upset that, you know, gas prices might go up and forever war. Like people really, really do not want boots on the ground in this circumstance.

[Blake]

Are you seeing that even from people that, you know, voted for Trump in 2024 or is it more, is it still mostly from people you know would be left wing regardless, or.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think the idea of starting a new foreign war is really, even for Trump voters, really deterring people from wanting to align with the administration and their actions. So even amongst Trump voters, and then the other gal that was on said the same thing at her university. So the youth vote came plus 13% in our direction, which is a huge swing, historically swing. And this seems to indicate that we are in jeopardy, if not already before that with some of the Epstein stuff, the midnight hammer stuff of alienating that new, those new additions to the coalition already. Robert Barnes, we got about 50 seconds left in this segment.

Yeah, exactly to your point. I mean, you guys would be on top of it more than others. You know, I remember watching that the live, that the young generation, the new MAGA part of the coalition, a lot of them were African American male voters, Hispanic voters and young people, disproportionately millennials and zoomers that joined the Trump coalition in 2024 that weren't part of it before. That boosted us from, you know, being minus four to plus one in the national vote. That allowed for the sweep of the swing states, that allowed for some coattails in the House and the Senate to have the House and the Senate. So that's what's at danger of losing. Young voters do not support this conflict. They don't want us involved in foreign conflicts, period. So the sooner the President can bring us home, the better. Similar. And then the other vote is the historic anti war vote disproportionately in rural and working class areas in the industrial and rural Midwest and amongst Hispanic voters in the Southwest, which were bleeding out badly as we saw from the Texas primary results and then the Libertarian vote. And it's just you can't cut off this many parts of your coalition and survive well.

And so in the next segment, Robert, I want to, I want to paint a rosier picture, if there is one. I want to talk about how this needs to go next, what needs to happen for us to kind of Bring this back home. Because I agree with your assessment here. Let me quickly tell you about blackout coffee. So when I travel, I get really annoyed because I don't have my blackout coffee. But we just got a new shipment in. Very excited about that. The morning reaper. It's my favorite. Also you got the two, a medium roast. Another favorite of mine. But anyways, blackout coffee.com Charlie code Charlie for 20% off your first order. That's blackout coffee.com Charlie. Use promo code Charlie for 20 off your first order. For an even better deal, sign up for blackout coffee subscription. So you save money, get free sip, free shipping and earn rewards through their rewards program. So blackout coffee.com Charlie All American Coffee company. No big corporate interest. None of that. This, these are real patriots. Family owned business. Blackout Coffee.com/forward/Charlie. We'll be right back. Back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to quickly bring your attention to the merch store. 25. Throw that up. Charliekirkstore.com Charlie kirkstore.com We have a ton of the best sellers up there right now. Never Surrender, Live Free. Of course we have the freedom shirts up there. So check those out. Here I am. I love that one. That was when Charlie specifically requested. I remember when he, when he made that request. So. CharlieKirkStore.com CharlieKirkStore.com check out those tees when you get a chance. Please, please, please. The team works very hard on those. Very proud of their work. Robert Barnes continues with us. Okay, so we set out the stakes here. Politically, this is fried. I think Blake and I were talking earlier this morning. The longer this drags on, the more fraud it becomes, the more there is an oil supply shock, then it's going to become even more painful. Right. Oil was up at like, I think $110. It's come back down under 100 since last time I checked it. But it's no doubt this has political ramifications. I think Matt Walsh was the one who said it, that if we he bombed Iran and we achieved our missional objective there and yet we lost the presidency or the midterms, it wouldn't be worth it to him. Okay. This is a series of impossible decisions. What needs to happen and how quickly Robert Barnes for this to come out as good as it possibly could be.

[John Solomon]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think the first part is, you know, declare victory in league. The president did that with the Houthis when we didn't quite achieve the original objective, but he realized that it was unlikely to be achieved. So he just declared Victory and left Vice President Vance has been giving the President an off ramp all the way through. Say look, the real focus of this was always about nuclear weapons, not about regime change, not about dictating to Iran its next Supreme Leader, not about any of the things that other people like Lindsey Graham, Graham want to drag the President into doing. One thing I would recommend is just have Lindsey Graham off the air. Him running around saying let's keep going.

Robert. I keep saying the exact same thing if you follow me on X. I've just been like get this guy away from the frickin microphone for the love. He's like frothing at the mouth, he's like anyways, continue. I cut you off please.

Yeah, and you know, to remind people out there, you know, Charlie says if we did anything we need to defeat Lindsey Graham in the primary, you got two good candidates running there there, Mark lynch and Paul Danz. So I highly recommend that whichever candidate you like, but just we gotta have Lindsey Graham out of there. He's a walking, talking disaster. PR wise for the President, but also policy wise. So I think, you know, take J.D. vance's recommended the declare victory. Say the apparently we hit several of the last remaining nuclear enrichment facilities, including the new ones he took out the Ayatollah, declare victory and go home and get out as quickly as you can it. Because the longer this drags on, as you know, the more political risk develops in the, in the US and the more geopolitical risk comes about in the Middle East. You know, if they start hitting desalination plants, if they start keep that they keep the Straits of Hormuz closed. Not only does oil and gas, natural gas prices spike, but also you could have a drought in a, in a food crisis throughout the Gulf states because they depend many of them for the Straits of Hormuz to get access to their food. So the people forget, you know, it's all desert there in the Gulf states. So that's why they rely on desalination plants. Including Israel does. I think it's in Israel's best interest that we get out of this quicker rather than later. Because who knows if Iran really thinks they're under existential threat, we don't want to know what they might do. They might hit everything. They might hit all the oil gas refinery places, they might hit all the desalination plants, they might hit the nuclear reactors.

Yeah, I don't mean to cut you off again, but Blake was bringing up a point. Apparently that was the, the one line Lindsey Graham wasn't prepared to Cross was,

[Blake]

please don't blow up all of their oil stuff. Like, they're going to need that after the war is over.

[Charlie Kirk]

So even Lindsey Graham was chastising Israel for going after the refineries. But, yes, continue, exactly.

So essentially, there's just lots of exponential geopolitical risk that this could get out of hand really fast. Ask, what if Israel feels they're under existential threat? Do they use nuclear weapons? Pakistan has said if they use nuclear weapons, Pakistan will use nuclear weapons. So this is just, you know, the Mideast is a place that can quickly and easily, as Charlie repeatedly reminded people, get out of control. You might have the best. And the temptation of any president is, is to double down. Don't. Trump has always been brilliant in recognizing, I'm in trouble, time to get out. You know, people forget the Sun Tzu principle, which is when the enemy is stronger, you retreat. You don't walk into a trap that gets you mired down. That's the mistake George W. Bush made. That's the mistake past politicians have made.

So, Robert, just to play devil's advocate here, though, you know, President Trump has said he doesn't like the new ayatollah. Not happy with that. He said he wants to be involved in the selection of the next leader, somebody that will be friendly with America. And he also said that, and, you know, essentially he believes he needs to finish the job because he doesn't trust future presidents to, to, you know, that they will do the right thing in the future. He's. He said, I don't want to be fighting them and come back in five years or in 10 years. Got to get it done the right way. Now, how do you balance those two things? Still declare a political and a military victory?

I think the great gift of Trump is that he can declare victory even when it's not apparent that by his own standards he got it, that he's a brilliant salesman. He's always been a brilliant salesman. So my advice, the president, is just sell it. I think American people be happy with that. Say, look, we took out the regime that caused a lot of harm. The we took out all their nuclear capacity. And on that basis, we'll be satisfied for now. And then try to reenter. I think it'll be tricky to reenter negotiations, but try to the. I think otherwise, I just look as a risk reward ratio, what's the probability you get that reward of, of a peaceful, free, democratic Iran governed by someone other than the Supreme Leader that is not driven by Shia Islamic beliefs, Structure versus what risk do you have to incur to try to get that reward? I think the chance of that reward is low. The Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard reported that it was not likely to occur that military means could achieve regime change. That can really only happen, happen with a complete cultural shift amongst the Iranian population, in particular Islamic population. And so that's part one is what, how, how do you assess the probability of obtaining that objective? And then what risk are you accruing? You're basically, as Matt Walsh pointed out, even if he could obtain that reward, is it worth sacrificing the entire Trump OG MAGA 2024 coalition? Is it worth sacrificing the populace, conservative realignment back to America's constitutional republic and religious roots? Is it worth risking the SAVE Act? Is it worth risking all of his domestic policy agenda? Is it worth risking being impeached in 2027 with a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate? My own view is I don't assess the reward probability is high and I assess the risk probability is very high. And so I think the risk reward way out that ratio. So I think it's in the best interest of the president, maybe down the road you can pursue that. But now is at the time given the risk that's accruing and the reward seems distant. And I think if he shifts back to a domestic agenda. 1776 Law center, we did a nationwide survey. You know, get rid of all these immunity for big pharma and these big ag and big companies and government actors when they violate people's civil rights and civil liberties. You know, impose tariffs, but take away the individual income tax on 95% of American households. That was popular even with some Democrats. There's all these popular populist policies he can pursue and enforce in an act if he's not distracted or detoured by a foreign war. So I think when you weigh the risk reward ratio, I think it favors the president finding an exit ramp as quickly and expeditiously as he can so he can shift back to the domestic agenda that can restore the coalition and at least mitigate the, the harm that's coming in the midterms.

Robert Barnes, well said. Great perspective. Thank you, sir. We'll have you on again soon. We'll be back. John Solomon joins us next.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is set to host House Republicans at Doral, Florida Resort today. The commander in chief is set to address the body this afternoon as part of a three day issues conference aimed at solidifying the chamber's legislative agenda for the rest of the year. The annual retreat is also about sharpening the party's messaging leading up to November's midterm elections. House Republicans are looking to find a way forward on issues like cost of living increases amid the ongoing military operation in Iran. Spiking energy prices, including higher oil and gas prices, are now also an issue that lawmakers have to answer to their constituents over. Other issues on the agenda include discussions on a budget reconciliation bill as well as ways to lower health care costs and fund the Department of Homeland Security after the department's latest Democrat induced shutdown. Iran has its next supreme leader after Mojtab Al Khamenei was named the new ruler of the embattled Islamic Republic. The 56 year old is one of the sons of the late ayatollah who was killed in US Strikes just days into the current war. Khamenei has never been elected or even appointed to a government position and is said to hold even more hardline stances than his father. Meantime, while you were sleeping, Iran ramped up attacks on Israel as well as neighboring Gulf countries. Also happening over the weekend. The US Military confirmed the seventh death related to Iranian retaliatory attacks. The latest death happened in Saudi Arabia, where the soldier was stationed. And the ongoing war with Iran has sent oil prices over the $100 a barrel mark, thus causing gas prices to spike across the country. Gas hit an average of $3.41 over the weekend. Taking to truth social, President Trump writing short term oil prices, which will drop rapidly when the destruction of Iran nuclear threat is over, is a very well is a very small price to pay for USA and world safety and peace. Only fools would think differently, he writes. That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates. Now let's get you back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[John Solomon]

Yeah. So just a month after the FBI raided Fulton county or in Atlanta area in Georgia to look at the 2020 ballots there, they did something a little different. They did a grand jury subpoena secretly to get about tens of tens of terabytes, a large amount, about 40 terabytes of data from Maricopa County. Now, they didn't do it to Maricopa County. They did it to the Arizona Senate. It was secretly done so that Maricopa county wouldn't know. But the Senate is confirming today that they did in fact turn over election data from many elections going back to at least 2020 and through 2024. This is the second major metropolitan area where there's always been questions about voting integrity. Now to be targeted by the FBI. It's a really big moment. Very different tactic tactics, voting county, very high profile, search warrant in a raid. This one more surreptitious behind the scenes grand jury subpoena going to a third party that had custody of the Maricopa county election data.

[Charlie Kirk]

So this is 2024, not 2020 or even 2022.

[John Solomon]

I think they go all the way back. That's 2020, 2022 and 2024. That's what my sources are telling me. So they're looking at a broad swath of election counting. It might even go back before 2020, but I'm certain of 2020, 2022 in 2024. It's a very large amount of data.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was there a inciting incident here? Was there something that triggered the grand jury in the first place?

[John Solomon]

So a few weeks ago or actually a couple of few months ago, Congressman Abe Hamade wrote a very important letter saying, hey, congressional monitors that were sent from the House Administration committee back in 2024 went and visited a warehouse and they saw some unusual commingling, or what they thought was unusual commingling of unused ballots, blank ballots and filled out ballots, ballots that people had voted with. These are all paper. Because Arizona's a predominantly paper voting state. That report got flagged by multiple people. The FBI looked at it, thought it was unusual. And that began a look at Maricopa County. And now because of the. The nature of data that the Arizona Senate had, they get a large swath that goes back many years, at least to 2020. I bet it goes back even before that. And I think what you know, if you go back and you look at the clips, is that Maricopa County's had lots of problems with trust and competence for a long time. In the early 2000s, it was the Democrats who were complaining about it. Then starting in 20, President Trump and Abe Hamade and Kerry Lake and others raised concerns. But there's been basically a decade or two of concern about Maricopa county vote counting vote procedures. And the FBI now is diving in. And the important thing here to understand is while state law and state legislatures set the rules for election, that's what the Constitution allows for. If a state or a county or a election locality does not follow the state law in the administration of a federal election, it can become a federal crime. And as we saw in the Fulton county search warrant affidavit, that is the predicate, at least for Georgia, that the FBI is using to do the criminal investigation there.

[Charlie Kirk]

So you have said that this is the second kind of shoe to drop, but there's more that we should expect to be coming down the pike.

[John Solomon]

I think that's right, based on what I've heard from my sources, both in the Justice Department, the FBI, and in the election community, there are some other states where there have always been questions about ballots and counting and rule changes. And I think the as comprehensive as you've seen Harmeet Dhillon go after the dirty voter rolls and try to force the cleanup of those dirty voter rolls. I think there are up to 28 states that have some sort of compelled action from the Justice Department Department. I think the FBI is doing something similar, taking a look at some places where there's enough evidence to suggest that maybe the state laws weren't being followed or there was chaos or incompetence or maybe some nefarious behavior. I think other states will follow. I'm told that they're looking at at least five locations. I don't know the Other three yet. I can make some guesses but I think at the end of the day Maricopa is round two. But I do think there'll be around 3, 4, 9, 5 somewhere else in the country before this is all done.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean I, I hate to make you speculate here, but I mean I bet Blake could pick three other cities if. I bet he could.

He knows it better than I. I'm

just going to suggest here, Blake, check my math here. Milwaukee, we had a real close Senate election in 2024. That one of those late night flips with Hobda Hobby. And then we have Detroit, those classic images from 2020, them putting up the cardboard. And then Philadelphia, those are you hearing?

[John Solomon]

Those are three really good guesses based on what we. Yeah. And let's remember there's a couple other little pieces here that aren't well known by everyday Americans. But in Michigan, the FBI received evidence from the Michigan State police in late 2020 that they had found these, this voter mill, what they basically called a ballot mill up in Muskegon, I believe it was, and the Michigan State Police believed it was one of seven locations around the country where these things were going on. And they believe they found fake registration data and fake voter ballot requests there and they referred it to the FBI. Unfortunately, the Chris Wray FBI doesn't appear to have very aggressively investigated that. But I think that the Michigan makes a lot of sense because the FBI has some prior documentation that came in from Michigan State Police cash. Patel recently found that data and I know his team are looking at that right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

So John, am I right to presume that sometimes there, you may not get actual evidence of out outright voter fraud but they're, they're moving in on sort of process crimes. Right. So they, where there's smoke, there's fire. They're kind of, they're, they're finding what they can charge these local officials, officials with.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, I think, and again, I don't think they're there to say let's we have a name, let's hang a charge on it. That's what the Democrats did to Donald Trump. I think what they're looking at is hey, enough people provided visual or paper evidence that the rules weren't followed in these state and it turns out that that's a federal crime and if it was intentional, meaning if someone intentionally didn't follow the rules, they knew that what they were doing was wrong and they just simply didn't follow it. That people can be prosecuted under. I think it's section 152 of the Federal statutes. And so that's what the FBI agent in the affidavit described. And so you see places where, listen, in Wisconsin, we all know that after the fact, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled that one of the changes they made for Covid voting wasn't lawful. Well, that's a pretty significant decision that was made by people, the Wisconsin Election Commission and others. Does that constitute a federal crime? Those are the sort of things that could potentially be examined in an investigation like this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really good reporting here, John. Excellent stuff. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what other jurisdictions are going to be rated or grand juries, whatever. You also have mentioned that you know this FBI Arctic frost, right. They targeted Turning Point. USA can throw up 251.

[John Solomon]

No doubt.

[Charlie Kirk]

251 and 247. These images right here. FBI Arctic frost probe targeted nearly 100 GOP groups, including Charlie Kirk's TPUSA. Looks like Tyler Boyer specifically was targeted, surveilled. You have, I don't know, hinted that there could be another sort of anti Trump intel op that is uncovered this week. Can you tell us more?

[John Solomon]

Yeah, that. I think so. We're in the final stages of just finishing that up. But I think what you're going to see is the first targeting of President Trump was in the summer of 16. That's Crossfire Hurricane. That's the fake Russia collusion story. The last was Arctic Frost. That's the one that Cash Patel discovered. In between, there were two in the middle. One of them is now known. It's the one that targeted Cash Patel and Suzy Wiles phone records recently we learned about that and that is focused on the classified records case. But it was a counterintelligence intelligence case that was opened up. But there is another one that's opened up in that same timeframe maybe a little bit earlier as Crossfire Hurricane is coming to an end. And as and before the classified documents case began, they basically targeted the president a fourth time. So there will be four counterintelligence investigations in which the FBI treated President Trump as a national security threat threat nearly the entire time of his political career. We're going to lay all those out in the next 24:48 hours.

[Charlie Kirk]

You said this could be the most troubling. Can you shed any more light on that?

[John Solomon]

I think because part of the predicate or part of the rationale for what constituted the national security threat was what words you used to talk about. Hunter Biden in Ukraine. Think about that speech may have been a delimiter for determining whether you were treated as a national security threat. And I think think that investigation falls in that timeframe. But we're also, we're be seeing the origins of a disinformation board and then that massive amount of censorship that we saw, some of it in Europe paid by the United States who then come back and censor Americans, some of it outright occurring on U.S. soil. Charlie and I and many others were targeted in that censorship realm as well. I think that the fact that it went beyond censorship and maybe treated someone just because of what they said about Hunter Biden or Covid or whatever, that they could be deemed a national security threat worthy of being investigated by the FBI is a very concerning thing. And I think that that's where this fourth operation likely lands.

[Charlie Kirk]

John Solomon, Just the news. Check him out. Check out his show on Real America's Voice as well. Thank you for this. Great, great work, John.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, good to be with you guys. Thanks so much.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, we'll talk to you soon.

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[John Solomon]

All right.

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[Blake]

There's a lot of doomers. We wanted to hit this.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have some good news.

[Blake]

Yeah, so this is the thing that's going to get really frustrating over the months to come because there's a lot of people who are going to see the conflict with Iran as an excuse to maximally doomer. They want to pout, either because they find it emotionally satisfying to complain and pout or because they see it as a chance to win some sort of internal struggle within the right. So they'll either think, oh, we can turf out the MAGA people because Trump's poll numbers will go on, or we can turf out the more interventionist people because we think this war will go bad. There's going to be a lot of that and it's going to be very important to keep fighting for this cause because a lot of good stuff is happening, stuff that's not always in the headlines. And as an example, something we were celebrating over the weekend. This is great because it was reported by various outlets as a negative thing where international student visas went down much more than expected. Worse than we thought because America's colleges have gotten hooked on foreign students bringing in infinity Indians, infinity Chinese, infinity Arabians.

[Charlie Kirk]

And why do they do this?

[Blake]

They do it for a variety of reasons. One is at a lot of state schools, they'll pay full freight tuition. So this can fill in holes in their budget. A lot of grad students they bring in because these schools, to save money, pay their grad grad students and STEM subjects are generally paid. They're not paying tuition and they don't want to pay them too much. So someone who's coming to the US from abroad will work for a lot less money, both because they're from a poor country and because they can use this to get a green card into the United States. And that's effectively a form of compensation an American can't get. So we've gotten totally hooked on foreign students. It's hollowing out America, especially in skilled fields we've gotten totally hooked on. Oh, we need foreign computer programmers, we need foreign physicists, foreign everything. And Americans are losing the ability to do these things.

[Charlie Kirk]

Things.

[Blake]

And then we become more hooked than ever. Anyway, visa issuances for foreign students went down 36% last year in the Trump

[Charlie Kirk]

administration, according to Chronicle of Higher Education's analysis, the Department of State data. This is what's interesting. So this is 97,000 100,000 fewer student visas were awarded. Technically, that's a 17% overall decrease in international student enrollments, which is big. Actually, one year just from a. They're just doing this kind of behind the scenes. No laws have changed. Maybe different regulations.

[Blake]

On EFI Institute, where I'm looking right now, it says economic implications for colleges are significant.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good. Yes, good. Stop paying bloated administrative salaries. Stop adding admin roles. By the way, when you look at the ratio over the years between students and administrative faculty, we're not talking professors. Yeah. We're talking admins. The ratio has skyrocketed.

[Blake]

The number of people that, you know, they have their gym, you know, their, their gym, yoga class leaders that are part of the package. You have the community managers, you have the sheer number of psychiatrists, mental health professionals, diversity czars.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and here's the thing. This, this is what's great. India, the top sender of students to the United States. Hear me out again, because we're talking about H1BS. Everyone wants to get rid of India. I'm on that track. But this is key. India, the top sender of students to the United States, saw an especially steep decline. American consulates there issued only about 22,000 student visas over the summer, a drop of more than 60%. So yeah, we haven't fixed all of it, but 60% drop in student visas to India, that is significant. That is significant. And to Blake's point, why? Because you're making room for actual American born talent to take those spots, especially when it comes to stem. So a lot of people don't understand the psychology of this. If you're say you're like a white kid from Tulsa and you want to go get a STEM degree somewhere and you apply and you go into the introductory course because they do this, these, they do sort of like, you know, come get to know your faculty. If you're thinking about this major or whatever and you go in, you got this white, white kid from Tulsa who goes in and guess what it is? It's all Chinese and Indians and you're like the one kid from America. And what do you, what are you gonna think psychologically about? They're like, screw that, I'm gonna go to finance. And so we lose the ability to do really important work. And that's key because then we get hooked up, hooked on foreign talent, totally hooked.

[Blake]

And then we've often had, we've had foreign born scientists end up in sensitive defense stuff because we're like, well we have no one else who can fill these jobs. Or we're just totally blase about the risk that having foreign originated people in sensitive fence stuff goes. And then they leak stuff to China endlessly has happened where we have Chinese scientists in sensitive areas or again those Chinese graduate students, students. We do so much defense work at universities with professors who are elites in whatever their field is and they'll have Chinese graduate students and they'll say, oh, we're keeping them away from the most sensitive stuff. But they're not away enough. They'll end up.

[Bo Alford]

Well.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's a new report by the way, the DOJ just showed that over 30,000 visits during the Biden administration from Chinese, Russian and Iranian officials to sensitive laboratories doing research in the United States.

[Blake]

Not a problem that China has, for example, that they. We've gotten so hooked. It's functionally impossible for us to do work that we think America should be able to do without an endless inflow of people from abroad. And some of those people are useful, some of those people are necessary, but not as many as we've gotten used to. And not to the extent where it's worth hollowing out native born Americans ability to do key work. So that's a white pill for you. It's important to flag these. We're going to keep doing it because. Because we can't let people use this conflict in Iran or anything else to black pill us out of keeping this administration going. Because it's doing important stuff that no other administration would do that is helping America in the long term. And that's happening on immigration, it's happening on the border, it's happening on regulation, it's happening in a lot of areas.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep, Western hemispheric dominance. But yeah, there's a. I call them the burn it all down people. There is a whole string of thoughts online that wants to completely sabotage the Trump administration because they aren't perfectly.

[Blake]

Some people find it more fun to burn everything down than to build. In fact, most people find it that way. That's why building is hard and why it's necessary.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's it for us. We'll see you tomorrow.

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