The Charlie Kirk Show, November 13, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — Real America’s Voice

Episode Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Andrew Colvett (Executive Producer, guest hosting for the late Charlie Kirk)
Panelists: Alex Clark, Mikey McCoy, Daisy Phelps, Representative Tim Burchett (R-TN), Blake (Research team), Daniel Boston (Preserve Gold), Philip Patrick (Birch Gold Group), Terrence Bates, others

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Overview & Main Theme

This episode balances rapid-fire coverage of political developments, pop culture debates, and financial preparedness through a right-of-center, pro-American, and anti-"woke" lens. The show centers on the fallout from the release of select Jeffrey Epstein documents, alleged Democratic attempts to implicate former President Trump, cultural observations about shifting family values in Hollywood, viral social media drama, and practical advice on navigating America’s turbulent economic landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Email Dump & Political Infighting

• Selective Release: Panelists accuse House Democrats of releasing heavily redacted Epstein-related emails to insinuate connections to Trump, while ignoring victims' wishes and cherry-picking context.
• Exoneration of Trump: Multiple guests stress that main accuser Virginia Giuffre had stated Trump was not involved in criminal acts, a point used to criticize Democratic motives.
• Congressional Process: Rep. Tim Burchett recounts his failed attempt (UC motion) to force a full and rapid release of Epstein files, claiming Democrats blocked transparency for political gain.
• Blackmail & Intelligence Angles: Speculation is raised that Epstein may have been used for foreign intelligence blackmail operations.
• Media Manipulation: Hosts assert the outrage is a distraction from Democratic political losses, particularly during a government shutdown.

Notable Quote:

“If Joe Biden had this for four years and there was one iota of damaging evidence against Donald Trump, don’t you think they would release it?”
— Rep. Tim Burchett (62:50)

Timestamps:

• Initial discussion: [01:18]–[04:16], [08:41]–[15:08]
• Rep. Burchett’s perspective: [19:26]–[20:56], [53:27]–[62:50]

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2. Pop Culture: Hollywood’s Pivot on Family & Motherhood

• Sea Change in Messaging: Observations that A-list celebrities are now publicly defending motherhood, criticizing “hedonism,” and pushing back against previous anti-family stances.
• Kelsea Ballerini Case Study: Discussion of the singer's shift from swearing off children and divorcing her husband to releasing a regretful, wistful ballad about missed chances at motherhood.
• Advice for Young Women: Panelists argue the feminist movement misled women about “having it all” and advocate for prioritizing family earlier in life.

Notable Quotes:

“Statistically you are going to want to have children … what career path would you choose that would be more conducive to motherhood?”
— Alex Clark (33:39)

“Feminism lied to her. She wasn’t really given informed consent on what she was choosing.”
— Alex Clark (36:28)

Timestamps:

• Segment start: [28:47]
• Ballerini audio & analysis: [30:27]–[34:29]
• Broader reflections: [36:09]–[39:22]

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3. Viral Culture: The Walmart Wedding Ring Debacle

• Social Media Frenzy: Viral texts between a couple, where the girlfriend turns down a Walmart engagement ring; triggers panel debate about materialism, communication, and relationship values.
• Panel Views: Split between whether she was shallow or raising legitimate concerns about not being “heard” by her partner; consensus that posting private texts online is never appropriate.
• Rep. Burchett’s Sentimentality: Offers personal anecdote underscoring meaning over material value.

Notable Quotes:

“The villain here is whoever posted these screenshots onto the Internet… The purpose of a potential marriage is not your social media likes or anything like that.”
— Blake (44:25)

Timestamps:

• Full discussion: [42:48]–[47:39]
• Rep. Burchett’s take: [54:37]–[56:19]

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4. Economic Instability & Precious Metals as a Hedge

• Government Shutdown Fallout: Brief reports on the reopening, but focus quickly shifts to economic insecurity for ordinary Americans.
• Gold & Silver Boom: Multiple sponsors and expert guests (Daniel Boston, Philip Patrick) argue the rapid rise in gold/silver demonstrates these assets as protection from dollar devaluation, inflation, and future market shocks.
• Practical Guidance: Detailed explanation of how listeners can diversify or rollover IRAs/401(k)s into gold and silver; emphasis on transparency and avoiding predatory dealers.
• Contextual Analysis: Historic parallels drawn between the current economy and past market crashes; long-term vs. short-term strategy underscored.

Notable Quotes:

“Gold going up the way it has … And we haven’t really seen inflation or real market volatility get priced into financial markets. The fact that it’s moving up the way it is—it’s almost as if it’s moving up in anticipation.”
— Daniel Boston (82:53)

“If you look at the economic climate … don’t put all your eggs in one basket. The more you can diversify against market risk … the better off you are.”
— Daniel Boston (84:04)

Timestamps:

• Sponsor segment: [48:47]–[52:53], [75:46]–[81:26], [85:44]–[86:40], [89:54]–[95:10]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Let’s get the dad gum bill out. Let’s vote it out. The Democrats opposed me on it. … It’s not about taking care of young ladies who got abused. … If Trump was in that thing … they would have already had it out.”
  — Rep. Tim Burchett (03:55–04:16)

• “Jeffrey Epstein is obviously lying. He hates Donald Trump because Donald Trump was one of the few people in this elite … that basically called him out as the creep and the criminal that he was.”
  — Charlie Kirk (17:01–19:26)

• “She [Ballerini] didn't want to have kids for selfish reasons. Only for a couple years later for her to say, actually, I think I do want kids.”
  — Alex Clark (32:04)

• “Every time I talk about this Laura, like it becomes trouble. But I love what you said because he wasn’t trying to be a bully. He was trying to say, I want the best for you.”
  — Daisy Phelps, regarding the late Charlie Kirk’s message on marriage and kids (41:49)

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Additional Highlights & Timestamps

• On the shutdown’s economic cost and media distraction:
  [22:01]–[22:39]

• On TikTok as a community platform (sponsored):
  [27:04]–[28:47]

• Epstein as possible intelligence “honey pot” operation:
  [64:42]–[65:17]

• Rep. Burchett on Congress, values, and why straight talk resonates:
  [56:14]–[58:56]

• Preserve Gold’s business practices and warnings about shady operators:
  [93:00]–[94:53]

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Tone & Language

• Vigorous, rapid but conversational
• Blunt and irreverent; use of colloquialisms (“dadgum,” “nothing burger”)
• Anti-establishment, pro-family, pro-traditional values
• Mix of light, bantering pop culture commentary with serious outrage over perceived political and media manipulations

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Conclusion

For listeners, this episode offers a blend of immediate reaction to current political events, a critique of both media practices and the American cultural drift, and practical steps for financial self-preservation. The panel mixes insider anecdotes, policy analysis, and viral social media debates, all aiming to equip and entertain a conservative audience with skepticism toward the mainstream.

Transcript

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Representative Tim Burchett]

No more political correctness. No more toxic ideological garbage that infected the department.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Representative Tim Burchett]

No more DEI offices. No more dudes in dresses.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Alex Clark]

Pushed women almost completely out of the top ranks of the military.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Point blank.

[Daniel Boston]

Women are 18% of the US military right now.

[Terrence Bates]

There are now no members of the.

[Daniel Boston]

Jointed staff who are women, despite the.

[Terrence Bates]

Fact that women are the majority of.

[Daniel Boston]

The population, 80% of the US military. There are zero women on the joint chief staff.

[Terrence Bates]

In fact, every member of the US.

[Daniel Boston]

Joint Chiefs of Staff right now is a white male. White men are 29% of the population.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is it possible that white men are.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

The only people in the world in.

[Charlie Kirk]

This country who are qualified to be.

[Daniel Boston]

On the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

[Terrence Bates]

That's the assumption, I guess, that Pete.

[Daniel Boston]

Hex, Pete Hegseth wants us to believe.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Now, the way this provision is written, it's tucked away on page 217 through.

[Charlie Kirk]

229 of the funding bill.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Senators could bring lawsuits and sue the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Federal government using taxpayer money if federal law enforcement seizes or subpoenas their data without notifying them.

[Alex Clark]

This is a major win for plaintiffs attorneys, immigration rights attorneys, who are saying that these arrests by people who have no deportation orders, who have no criminal history are simply illegal. The judge today is ordering the release of hundreds of people who have been arrested.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Just left the House floor and I tried to do a UC unanimous consent of a, tried to get the Epstein files, get it straight to the floor just to cut out all this nonsense. And you know, and the Democrats blocked it, oddly enough. Now here they've had it for four years and they obviously, if there was something there about Trump, they would have released it. Now they're all, let's get it out, let's get it out. Well, I just made a motion to bring it straight to the dadgum floor and they blocked it. They blocked it. So this is politics that has nothing to do with what's doing what's right. I mean, it's Washington D.C. to it. Again, they ought to be ashamed of themselves, but they're probably the email right.

[Alex Clark]

Here on your screen. She wrote a book, as you know, and she did not accuse him of any wrongdoing. What do you make of that?

[Charlie Kirk]

And can you confirm that?

[Alex Clark]

Yeah, I don't know. Obviously it's redacted who the victim is, so I won't necessarily take the Republicans word on who it is that's redacted. And I don't know why they would necessarily redact someone's name who is deceased at this point. The Democrats did that. The Democrats were. No, no, no, I understand, but I'm just saying, like, our biggest concern is to actually make sure that we are protecting victims. And obviously she wrote a book, she told her truth. I do have to ask and I know and it's just something that I think we're compelled to at this moment with the attention on President Trump with these questions around a pardon. Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein?

[Terrence Bates]

No.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Let's just get the dead gum bill out. Let's vote it out. The Democrats opposed me on it.

[Jasmine Crockett]

It's stupid.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

It's all about politics. It's not about taking care of young ladies who got abus and we should take care of them. But there's a process in place. The Democrats have had it for four years and then do a dadgum thing. And, you know, if Trump was in that thing, Biden arresting Kamala Harris, I mean, he's the Antichrist to them, they would have already had it out.

[Terrence Bates]

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[Philip Patrick]

The right would say really rough things and names, you know, some names I won't, I won't repeat on, on tv. But, but, but the, the, on the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Left, it was like, they want me.

[Philip Patrick]

To die or that we're cheering for.

[Charlie Kirk]

Your next stroke or that's terrible.

[Philip Patrick]

That depression. Why couldn't it depression one and I hope your kids find you. And then they even have like the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Graphic gift where they have like a.

[Philip Patrick]

A stroke, you know, in, you know, in your head.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Philip Patrick]

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[Representative Tim Burchett]

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Michael McCoy.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, yeah, we're still, we're figuring it out.

[Charlie Kirk]

And as well as Alex Clark, host of Culture Apothecary, which is powered by Turning Point usa. Honored to have you here.

[Alex Clark]

Honored to be here, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Your show has just. I mean, I had zero faith in it. I didn't think it was a good idea and it just blew up. It turns out I know nothing.

[Alex Clark]

Can you believe it?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

I had faith and now you're like, you're. Now you're like a leading ma. I mean, this has been true for a while. So I'm for those of in watching you guys know this to be true and it's been true for a long time. But you are like a leading Maha person. I mean, you've been with Turning Point for years. So you're a leading conservative person and influencer and show host and you've just done so, so great and I so proud of you.

[Alex Clark]

Thank you very much, guys. Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Worked really hard.

[Alex Clark]

What a welcome, actually.

[Charlie Kirk]

Surprisingly.

[Alex Clark]

Yeah, I know you wouldn't think, but.

[Charlie Kirk]

Alas, we got you there eventually. Alex is the best and she is just, she's just wonderful and she's on it. She knows where the movement is going. We are going to get into this Epstein smear job from the Democrats because it's important to hit this apps actually. And we're gonna be talking about pop culture with Alex because before you were Ms. Maha. You were poplitics, and you were really focused on. You still are tuned in.

[Alex Clark]

I'm still tuned in, yeah. So I have a lot to say about some happenings in pop culture.

[Charlie Kirk]

There are some stories that are actually important to understand. If you're out there, if you're just like a pure politics junkie, more like. I would. I would consider myself more of, like, the politics culture, you know, socio sociology junkie. It's kind of like the confluence of. Of where these macro trends are taking our culture. But part of that is what's happening on TikTok and pop culture. And we need to be sure that we're paying attention to this. And we're gonna also bring Daisy Phelps from our team in because, you know, she's. She knows this stuff, too. Something about Ballerina. Ballerina, yeah.

[Alex Clark]

We're gonna talk about Kelsey Ballerini's new song and what it means for the culture.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Why.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, ballerinas. Very deep stuff. Anyway, so I want to I in first, though, with this. What's happening with this Epstein thing. So I actually, I. We were going to bring it up yesterday, but there was things coming out that I wanted to, like, make sure that we waited on, just because I was frankly, a little distracted with H1BS, which I think is a way bigger deal than what, you know, some emails that the Democrats released. So essentially, here's the backstory. James Comer had subpoenaed these documents, and I think in August, from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein during the shutdown, these get sent to House Oversight. House oversight gets them. Oh, do we have Blake, by the way? Blake, are you standing by remote? The studio didn't give me. There he is. Blake, he's looking. There he is. He's research claim he's hard at work. That was perfect. That's exactly how I imagine Blake. Most of the time, I don't know if he can hear us or not. So here's the deal. They subpoena these documents, they get them during the shutdown, and the Democrats end up releasing select emails. Okay? And when they do this, and they're redacting the victim's name, now the Democrats are going to say they were mandated to do this, but these documents already existed elsewhere. We already knew who the quote unquote victim was, and she was a victim, Virginia Guthrey. But we already knew because they were corroborated with other document drops. So we knew this in Virginia Giuffrey. And the emails go like. I want you to realize this is Jeffrey Epstein to gmax. I'm not exactly sure who this is, but I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump victim Virginia Guthrie. Spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et cetera, et cetera. So, and I believe this. This could be Wolf, if I'm. If I'm not mistaken, which is a New York Times guy that was basically acted as a consultant. So you got a journalist, quote, unquote, working with Jeffrey Epstein. So another one, victim at Mar A Lago. Trump said, he asked me to resign. Never a member. Of course. He knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop. So, okay, Trump asked. This is from 2019. That's another one they released. And then Michael Wolff, I think you should let him hang himself in reference to Trump. This is from 2015 to Jeffrey Epstein. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime. So this is what's wild. So we get all of this stuff. Hey, Blake, are you there? Can you hear us? There he is.

[Daniel Boston]

I don't.

[Blake]

I don't know. I'm okay. Does it work now? All right, excellent. Yeah, we're having a. Is it Michael McCoy now? I feel like. I feel like I don't even know him anymore.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, hold on. We're gonna save that for later. Is that. Save that for later. So basically, here's the deal, though, Blake. These emails were selectively released by the Democrats, but the victim, we already knew was Virginia Guthrey. And here's what we know about Virginia Guthrie. They redacted her name. She has exonerated President Trump, saying that she never saw him do anything. She actually. Her dad is now on record saying that she wanted him to be present because he was going to release the information on Epstein. This is a complete and utter nothing burger. From what I can tell, it's not.

[Blake]

A total nothing burger. Because what we are also getting is. And this is, like, really funny, we're getting a lot of other emails. So we're getting, you know, Larry Summers, the former president of Harvard, and we're getting his emails with Epstein, which If nothing else are really funny. There's a few exchanges that are very funny. One is where he sends a message to Epstein where he says, like, is it true that Donald Trump uses cocaine? And Epstein just replies, hey, could I have Harvard give a, give a guided tour from the development office, the fundraising office, could they give a guided tour of Harvard to this like, Rothschild heir that I know? And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I could set that up. And so that was very funny. And then there's also one where it's Larry Summers. There's really no other way to describe this. He's, as a 60 plus year old male, is talking about how he's trying to date this woman and she's giving him these mixed signals and like, oh, she like invited this other guy. It's like reading a, like an 8th grader or something talk about women. And it's the former president of Harvard who, I can't remember, did he get a Nobel Prize in economics? Something like that. So it's not a nothing burger. We have a lot of funny emails that we should highlight instead.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, Larry Summers was the director of the National Economic Council and the chief White House economic adviser during Obama. So he's not, he's not nobody. And actually he predicted rightly that the overstimulation of the economy under Biden was gonna spark inflation. So he's not a dumb guy. But this is. So these are people that Epstein was interacting with at a massive level. But I wanna play some of these clips here for us because now we have a ton of new information about just how much of an own this was. Guys, give me the clip on the. Dad, this is. There's too much in here now. I can't find it. Here we go. All right, let's go ahead and play. 288.

[Alex Clark]

She wanted Trump to be President. It was because he campaigned on releasing the Epstein files and she was excited about that. So yes, we talked about Trump a lot as a crusader to release the Epstein files. In that sense, she was very excited that he had made that one of the main planks of his campaign and she felt validated by it. But she never talked about him in any sense that he was involved in any of this. No, no, he was not, as far as she knew. And again, she was there for two plus years, but as far as she knew, he was not involved in the, in the ring of trafficking that Epstein was working.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So that it's not Guthrie talking herself, it's someone talking about her. So get me the name of who that is, by the way, guys. But this is somebody obviously in the know that knew Virginia Guthrey and basically said she wanted to elect Trump. Trump was not implicated in any of this scandal. And here's when, you know, it gets really bad for Democrats. CNN is even calling them out. And I'm gonna play that clip on the other side of this break cuz it is fantastic. Jasmine Crockett got caught holding the bag. It was just wonderful, wonderful. So we're gonna play that in just a second. Guys. I'm gonna tell you about one of our partners here first. If you owe the ir, they can garnish your wages and levy your bank accounts. They can even seize your retirement or take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. Call the professionals at Tax Network usa. Their tax lawyers and enrolled agents are experts in powerful programs that may even help you eliminate your tax debt. Al Together, Tax Network USA is A rated and has saved over $1 billion for their clients. Whether you owe a few thousand or a few million, they can help you. In just one phone call, you can start the process of stopping the threatening demand letters, stopping the aggressive collections and resolving your tax matters once and for all. But here's the key. You have to act now while you still have options. For a free consultation, call Tax Network USA today at 1-800-958-1000. What's 1-800-958-10000? Or visit tnusa.comtnusa.com check them out. Today we're going to get Alex and Mikey. I think that's your name. We're going to get their reaction as well. On the other side. Don't go on anyway, from the campus to the car, the bullhorn to the.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Alex Clark]

Well, that's exactly what I was saying the whole time you were saying this. I was like, why is he, why is he writing this in the emails when everyone in this circle of Palm beach knows that Trump was like the one person to go toe to toe with him and be like, you're a weirdo. You know, stop. Stop hitting on these young girls. And I think President Trump is a father. He's very protective of his daughters. I think he could see him for what he was from the get go and was very quick to call that out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, maybe not from the get go, but eventually he figured it out. And Trump, he said he got pissed off because they were stealing his employees from Mar A Lago. He didn't like that. And it, like, creeped him out. And he warned him a couple of times to, like, knock it off and get out of there.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I look, I keep drawing the line back to 2024. You know, they tried to put President Trump in jail for 500 years. They tried to cripple his empire, they tried to cripple him financially. They tried. They came after his family, tried to put his family in jail. When none of that worked out, they tried to kill him. This is like the fifth time on the Epstein stuff with President Trump.

[Charlie Kirk]

The walls are closing in.

[Mikey McCoy]

Closing in. But now this is really important, though. Like there's actual work being done. I just pulled this up. Operation dirt. Dirtbag Ice arrests over 150 criminal aliens and sex predators in Florida. Crackdown. That was, that was today. That was this week that that happened. So this administration and President Trump are going after actual sex predators.

[Charlie Kirk]

But you didn't hear, this is the.

[Mikey McCoy]

Fifth time around on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

You didn't hear about it on purpose. This whole thing is Operation Get Distracted because they lost bad on the shutdown. So they held this thing, they put it in their pocket. They didn't coordinate with the Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. None of that. They just released three selective emails that all sort of made Trump like death by innuendo is how Bill O'Reilly's putting. And that's exactly right because here we have Ghislaine Maxwell said, Trump didn't do anything. You had. I'm just blanking Professor Dershowitz who talked with Epstein and said, did Trump do anything? No, he didn't do anything. And yet Virginia Guthrie say Trump didn't do anything. This is all a cheap optic scam. That. And guess who's, Guess who's running with it. Well, sadly, we have to talk about it, cuz we have to clear President Trump's name. But guess who else is talking about it. All the media apparatchiks across the spectrum. Guess what? They're not talking about how the Democrats got absolutely hosed in the shutdown. They dragged the country through the mud for 40 plus days. Guess what else they did? They lost the economy, about 1.5 trillion in GDP just by shutting down the government.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

All of that carnage is now they instantly flip the page like it never happened. Because they lost bad.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah. And we also need to just kind of acknowledge that this is Democrats taking advantage of conservatives in our infighting right now. We have a fractured coalition. There's a lot of infighting on the right. We just got pummeled in the most recent election. We're not looking great coming into the midterms. And so this is, this is the left coming in at a fragile time for us on the right, but a.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fragile time for them, too, Mikey.

[Mikey McCoy]

That's the fragile time for them, too. So this is them trying to clear up the government shut down l. That they took. And then on top of that, this is them trying to take advantage of us in our infighting.

[Charlie Kirk]

And you know, all right, I totally agree. And that. But they're experts at it and they. They have the media apparatus that'll play ball. I'm going to Play. Cut to 87. This is Jasmine Crockett getting owned on CNN about this. This, this redaction that was completely. It was all for show just to make it look serious. 287.

[Alex Clark]

The email right here on your screen. She wrote a book, as you know, and she did not accuse him of any wrongdoing. What do you make of that? And can you confirm that? Yeah, I don't know. Obviously it's redacted who the victim is, so I won't necessarily take the Republicans word on who it is. That's redacted. And I don't know why they would necessarily, necessarily redact someone's name who is deceased at this point.

[Daisy Phelps]

The Democrats did that.

[Alex Clark]

The Democrats were. No, no, I understand, but I'm just saying, like, our biggest concern is to actually make sure that we are protecting victims. And obviously she wrote a book, she told her truth. Wait, so then she's admitting that we're telling the truth? That was weird. She's like, they're not telling the truth. But then like she told.

[Charlie Kirk]

That was left coded language. She told her truth. So it's not necessarily Jasmine Crockett's truth is what she's trying to say.

[Alex Clark]

But listen, she makes my head hurt.

[Mikey McCoy]

Anytime Jasmine Crockett gets owned, I'm just. I counted a win.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, or her. Her or her feet licked. Blake, this would be the perfect time to throw to you. And unfortunately, I'm coming up against a break. But you know, you do need to weigh in here in just a second. So we're going to come back more. More of.

[Mikey McCoy]

I don't know.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is like a quasi thought crime crew. Anyways, we'll be right back at the Charlie Kirk show in just few minutes.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Federal workers are hoping to get their paychecks as soon as possible as the federal government is now back open following the longest shutdown in U.S. history.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's an honor now to sign this.

[Terrence Bates]

Incredible bill and get our country working again. President Trump signing the bill funding the government through January 30. On Wednesday night, after the US House passed the temporary funding bill, federal agencies are directing employees to report to work today. In the meantime, it is still not clear when furloughed workers will get their back pay or their paychecks in general. The White House is downplaying the release of 23,000 documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, including emails claiming that President Trump knew about the sexual abuse of underage girls but never participated. The documents were released through the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.

[Daisy Phelps]

These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has always said is that he was from Palm beach and so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a of the member at Mar a Lago until President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep.

[Terrence Bates]

White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt also calling the document release a quote, manufactured hoax by the Democrats. She argues that Democrats didn't care about the Epstein case until President Trump returned to the White House. China has agreed to crack down on chemicals used to make fentanyl. FBI Director Kash Patel says the CCP is targeting all 13 precursors for making fentanyl and seven chemical subsidies used in that process. All of this comes after Director Patel traveled to China to meet with his Chinese counterpart.

[Charlie Kirk]

While we, the interagency, the Department of.

[Terrence Bates]

Justice, have been fighting hard to seize.

[Charlie Kirk]

And stop drug traffickers, we must attack.

[Terrence Bates]

Fentanyl precursors, the ingredients necessary to make this lethal drug. That was the sole purpose of my trip to China, to eliminate these precursors. And if success, we would suffocate the drug trafficking organization's ability to manufacture fentanyl.

[Charlie Kirk]

In places like Mexico.

[Terrence Bates]

President Trump set the ball in motion during his recent meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping. That's a.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Newsflash, Democrats.

[Charlie Kirk]

America has a republic, not a democracy. Fact check.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

True.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are having a fascinating discussion in the break. Listen, I want to tell you about Tick Tock. Charlie built a amazing, thriving community on TikTok through conversation, through debate, through dialogue. It's not something that happens overnight. It happens over time, one connection at a time. TikTok offers opportunities for respectful dialogue and the exchange of ideas. And through that, opportunities for community. You'll find creators who teach and encourage. A carpenter passing on his craft. Aman explaining how to make a budget stretch, or a gardener showing up showing us how to bring a backyard back to life. All of that is powered through TikTok people don't necessarily think that, but it's so true. There's so much more on that app than you might imagine. Freedom to speak what we know and hear each other out. That's the power of TikTok. It gives everyone a seat at the table, a place to speak, to listen, and to remind each other what connection looks like. Like conversations build connections and connections build communities. Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are sponsored in part by TikTok. All right, so we added yet another Daisy Phelps, who is like our resident. When Alex is not here, she's our resident pop culture expert. You and Emma, you keep us informed. So there's. So this is the theme, which is ironic, coming after Jeffrey Epstein, like the most anti family topic you can imagine. And yet here we pivot to Hollywood pop culture. And there is a theme emerging, Alex, that some of the brightest stars that are, you know, young stars are now defending the idea of family, and they're fighting against this prevalent anti family messaging that we've always associated with Hollywood. Am I summing it up somewhat accurately here?

[Alex Clark]

Yeah, you are. I was so surprised. The songs that are coming out, the statements that are coming out from a list, stars defending having children, slamming hedonism, essentially, and talking about how they just want to have, you know, kids and there's nothing wrong with it. And in fact, saying it's weird if you brag about not having children. I mean, this is a total complete 360 from the messaging that we've had the last 10 years. And it seems like overnight this year there's been a shift.

[Daisy Phelps]

Well, and I think so. A couple weeks ago, we had talked about when the. The member called in, there's a new Taylor Swift song about how she just wanted to have kids and settle down. And people were saying that was trad wife or alt right propaganda. So we had talked about that a little bit, but I think that what's even a bigger story than that, everyone's talking about this Kelsey Ballerini song that just came out. And I texted Emma K. As soon as this came out, and I was like, I would pay money for Charlie to be able to hear this song. Because it's not only someone who just in Hollywood is now saying they focus too much on their career now they want to have a family. It's someone who just previously in the last couple of years was saying they didn't want to have a family, had a very public divorce, trashing her ex husband very publicly because he wanted a family.

[Alex Clark]

And she did.

[Daisy Phelps]

We have that clip of Alex. Or of Kelsey Spellarini on Call Her Daddy. I don't know.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, I think I know.

[Daisy Phelps]

I don't know what the number is.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think I got it. 276.

[Alex Clark]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, no, this is 2020 brought up. All right, go ahead. The idea of divorce first.

[Alex Clark]

How did you begin that conversation? I was realizing that I wasn't ready for kids, and that's a fundamental difference. That was something that we had talked about early on, and that was something that I was changing on because he was ready. He was like, I don't want to be an old dad, is what he kept saying. And I was like, I'm not. I just. Like, I'm not there yet, and I can't. I can't do that to, like, save this and give you something that I'm not ready for. Like, I just can't do that to myself. I took him out to dinner and I was like, for my 30th birthday, I want to freeze my eggs. And it was not a good day. And I think that was when I was like, there's a fundamental difference here.

[Daisy Phelps]

So that was a couple years ago, and it was very public. And then she put out a song just recently called I Sit in Parks.

[Charlie Kirk]

And.

[Daisy Phelps]

And it is really sad. So I know you've listened to it. We have the lyrics.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. This is. This is crazy, actually. So 266. You can throw up the lyrics. She said, did I miss it by now? Is it a lucid dream? Is it my fault for chasing things A body clock doesn't wait for? I did the damn tour it's what I wanted, what I got I spun around and then I stopped and wonder if I missed the mark.

[Daisy Phelps]

And she even in the second verse, talks about how she's hitting her vape, but she's dreaming about a nursery with Noah's ark. And Rolling Stone says she's on the right track, but she's refilling her Lexapro. So it is bleak, completely. A one like I. And we've said this to Charlie for a long time about Taylor Swift. She's always said that she's wanted this thing. I think this is an even bigger story because it's someone who. The complete opposite was saying that this is what she wants. She wants her career. She doesn't want to be married.

[Alex Clark]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

So she straight up divorced. A date.

[Alex Clark]

She didn't want to have kids for selfish reasons. Just selfish. Purely selfish reasons. There's no biblical grounds for divorce there, you know, saying you want kids and I don't. Only for a couple years later for her to say, oh, actually, I think I do want kids. And this is.

[Charlie Kirk]

She call it back up and be.

[Alex Clark]

Like, well, now she's dating Chase Stokes.

[Daisy Phelps]

Which I think they're back together. Yeah, they were just spotted.

[Alex Clark]

Which I have a whole theory on that. I have a whole theory on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know who Chase Stokes is.

[Mikey McCoy]

I don't.

[Daisy Phelps]

Outer Banks.

[Alex Clark]

Outer Banks, actor on Netflix, big teen drama series. I have a whole. So can I just say something that's really a wild theory about this? They've been dating for three years, broke up, like, the day after Charlie was murdered, and then now they're back together two months later. My theory, as soon as I saw this, because I believe he had commented something positive about Charlie. And I think maybe it was deleted or something. Right in those, like, first few hours after his death. I don't know. Obviously, we don't know for sure, but I have a hunch that maybe he came out and defended Charlie and said that this was wrong and he didn't deserve to be killed. And I think Kelsey freaked out because she is a huge lib and I think she dumped him. And now she's sitting in parks in Nashville and she's watching all these young, gorgeous families where the husband is strong and doting on his wife, and they look so happy and they're sitting on the blanket playing with their children, and she's sitting there hitting a vape, being like, I guess I gotta go refill my Lexapro prescription. Wow, this is like, super dark and depressing. Maybe I jumped the gun on this breakup. So now they're back together. I just wonder if it had to do a little bit with Charlie. But beyond that, I think this is.

[Charlie Kirk]

So.

[Alex Clark]

This is such an important story to tell, what she's doing, because we do not set young women up for success when it comes to motherhood. We should be talking to them. When it comes to chasing your dreams and what career you want to have, we should be having these conversations in high school, letting them know, hey, it's okay if you want to chase a career. However, you should know that statistically. Statistically you are going to want to have children. And that if you have a career, when you have children, 65% of women will drop out of the workforce completely once they have kids or they want to go down to part time. So if you know that statistically, going into choosing your career path, choosing your degree, what career path or what degree would you choose that would be more conducive to motherhood. You have. This is just the majority. This is what it's going to be. Be like for the majority of women.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're terrifying right now. Why?

[Daisy Phelps]

Because I'm. I'm. She's less than two months away from giving birth.

[Charlie Kirk]

Andrew.

[Daisy Phelps]

Andrew's terrified hearing that 65% of women.

[Charlie Kirk]

Don'T go back to this. Wait, this stat again. Read it back to me. Don't worry.

[Mikey McCoy]

Say that one more time.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have pregnant women all over Turning Point right now. It's like a. It's a total. I don't know what you want to call it, but it's. It's. We're going to be in trouble in about two months.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, I.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, this is a good thing. It's a great thing to celebrate more babies.

[Daisy Phelps]

Really is. I feel like the luckiest person in the world. Especially. I think we even have the picture of when I told Charlie and Erica that I was pregnant. 305, if we want to put that up. But I have. I've been so, so grateful.

[Mikey McCoy]

Charlie's smiling.

[Daisy Phelps]

Erica had asked me the day before, and I was like, no, no. Because I knew. I want to tell them both together. So they were both pretty shocked. But I just am so grateful because our message is all about families, families, families. But I also have loved and still love my career. And so having a boss that was so ecstatic for both and, like, was so committed to making sure that I could and will still do both is the dream. But most people don't have that. And so I think it's really important that these huge celebrities, like. And Timothy Chalamet saying, bragging about having kids and how much time afforded to them to do other stuff. It's bleak that people are bragging about not having kids.

[Charlie Kirk]

Timothy Chalamet, actually, I don't know much about him. I will just say he's great. Super talented. He's 10 out of 10 to 297. Oh, it's just an image.

[Mikey McCoy]

It's an image, but also it's actually pronounced Timote. You guys are pronouncing his name.

[Daisy Phelps]

I think he's French.

[Mikey McCoy]

He is French.

[Charlie Kirk]

I thought he's American.

[Daisy Phelps]

Well, I think he's both.

[Alex Clark]

But here's what's important.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's. So is.

[Alex Clark]

Is this. This crash course in reality that kind of knocks women on the head once they're in their 30s, if they purposefully chose a life of pursuing career and selfish pursuits above having a family and children. It comes for everybody. Okay. If you're a woman, the clock comes for us.

[Daniel Boston]

All.

[Alex Clark]

And so with Kelsey, she is really. It's important to. To. To make sure that she understands that feminism lied to her. She. She wasn't given. True. She wasn't really given informed consent on what she was choosing and what she could potentially. Now there's still time for her to get pregnant and have a family. But they weren't honest with her about how you can have it all as a woman. But what we're missing when we're talking to young women is telling them it just may not be all at.

[Daisy Phelps]

Yes. And Erica said that at YWLS this year. That was a big. A big part of her. And Charlie.

[Mikey McCoy]

Charlie. Charlie would be so fired up on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

When you said the clock.

[Daisy Phelps]

Yeah, it's. I mean, it's. It's true. It's a biological clock. Everyone has it. But I also think. And that's what we're seeing with Kelsey Ballerini, as she's in her 30s. It's also like an emotional clock for women that no matter how much you push it off, push it off, this is something that you were made to do.

[Alex Clark]

And when you purposefully put it off. So when you are not living a godly season of singleness where you are dedicating your life to the Lord and you are praying for a future family and all of that, that's different than purposely choosing singleness. Okay. For selfish reasons. When that time comes and you're realizing, oh, snap, like, I have very small, a very small window here to have a family, you are picking a mate then. And who's going to be the future husband of your children or who's going to be the father of your children under pressure? You're not going to pick, I don't think as thoughtful of a partner as you would when you have more time and you're in your 20s, you know, if God allows and you meet that person in your life again. I feel bad for her first husband because he was right the entire time and she blew him off. And now look at the mess that she's made it. It. That's sad to me.

[Charlie Kirk]

And in.

[Daisy Phelps]

In.

[Charlie Kirk]

Sorry, I. I wanted to play a clip from Charlie.

[Daisy Phelps]

Yeah, we should.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's. This is.

[Daniel Boston]

Is.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is in September of 2025, so just before he was assassinated, talking about this incredibly important topic to his heart.

[Jasmine Crockett]

253 children is more important than having a good career. I have two kids. I also have an amazingly blessed career. Our podcast is doing great, but my kids matter way more than how many social media followers that I have. And I would also tell young ladies, you can always go back to your career later, that there is a window where you primarily should pursue marriage and having children. And that is a beautiful thing. This is not about shaming. It's not about ridiculing. It's not about moralizing. It's about lifting up what is beautiful. And by the way, we look at the mental health data, young women are not okay, half that is right, half of liberal white women say that they have some form of mental health issue that has been diagnosed by a doctor. What is the number one thing that mental health professionals will tell you when it comes to mental health issues? Loneliness does not help. So maybe we should solve the loneliness epidemic by encouraging young ladies to get married and have children. It's good for them, it's good for America, and it's good for our future.

[Charlie Kirk]

Boom. I love that Charlie was so spot on on this issue. I know you got a thought off the back of this. We're gonna blow the brakes here because we just have too much to talk about and get to. But first, I wanna tell you about Alan Jackson Culture and Christianity podcast. The Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes this podcast unique and why I recommend it is because they're all about applying scripture. They want you to understand what the Bible says and how you can apply it to issues that we're facing today. Really tough issues like gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump and the White House. Issues in the church, starting families, affordability. He doesn't just discuss the problems in every single episode. He gives practical things that you and I that we all can do to make a difference. Plus, he's got his guests there that have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies of their own. Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact the world. Today, the Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging, and you can get it at YouTube, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, be sure to subscribe so you don't miss anything. And also, if you want to check out what else Alan Jackson is doing, you can find out more about Pastor Allen and the [e-mail] forward/Charlie that is a L L E N Jackson.com forward slash Charlie Alan Jackson.com forward slash Charlie we're gonna keep going because there's just too. There's too many good voices here. And we got it. We got so many stories to get to. We'll be right back. Said that he. Because. Because listen, Charlie used to complain when he would talk about this topic because inevitably it would cause this huge uproar and he'd get, he'd get write ups on, like on these, like pop culture outlets, you know, that we usually didn't get write ups on because, you know, oftentimes it would just be political media that would pick up Charlie stories. But when he would talk about this, it would become this huge uproar. And he was. And I remember we actually have the clip. It's basically the same thing he said, but he went on Laura, I think two nights before he was killed. And he said that Laura threw him this question because it was becoming like this big uproar again. And he's like, you could see him almost like roll his eyes. Like every time I talk about this Laura, like, it becomes trouble. But I love what you said was because he wasn't trying to be a bully. He was trying to say, I want the best for you. And if I don't just tell it to you straight, like, you're not going to hear it because nobody else is willing to do this because of the uproar. I'm willing to take the slings and arrows. And this is the truth.

[Mikey McCoy]

I thought Joe Bob really did a great job yesterday on the show too, talking about this. He said, we started dating at 19, got married way later, and we had kids way later. After that goes, once I had kids, I realized that, that how much life just doesn't really matter and that is what matters in life. He goes, I would sooner go work at a Costco if it meant that I could be with my kids more often. And like, that statement from Joe Bob made me go home until Elizabeth was.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, we should get.

[Daisy Phelps]

I need a call up yet after this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome radio in just one second. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Radio stations across the country, almost across the world. This is probably true. Yes. So I'm going to get into this and I want to bring Blake into this conversation as well here. So Blake, if you're listening, we've got this. This. It's kind of like a viral story. Mike, you set it up. It's a Walmart wedding ring story.

[Mikey McCoy]

Okay, so there's this couple and he buys. It was like a $900 ring from. Was it from Walmart? Yeah, yeah, from Walmart. He proposes to his, well, his girlfriend, asking for her to be his fiance, and she says no. And then there's. All we get is just this out of context screenshot of text messages between that. Okay, that drives me nuts. I'm just going to Start by saying that any out of context message, like, I will not give too intense of an opinion until I receive more context. But I'm Alex. You want to kind of discuss this?

[Blake]

Can you read these messages to me?

[Charlie Kirk]

I can't see them. You had them up just like.

[Alex Clark]

So the boy says, I just got to ask Manny. I guess that's her. Girl, what happened tonight? I've been planning this proposal for over a year. You really told me no in front of everyone that crushed me. She said, it's not even about embarrassing you. It's about you not listening. I've told you the kind of ring I wanted more than once, and you showed up with something from Walmart. He said, so this is about the ring. I still spent 900 regardless of where I got the ring. I put so much effort into this for you, for us. She said, tyler, if you knew what I wanted and still chose to do what was easiest tells me that you don't really hear me. I want to feel chosen, not just proposed to. He said, wow, so everything I just did didn't matter to you, huh? She said, it mattered, but not enough for me to say yes to a forever I'm not sure you're ready for.

[Daisy Phelps]

I think there's a lot of things.

[Daniel Boston]

So.

[Blake]

Yeah, there's a lot going on here. The number one thing is. The number one problem here is did the guy post all of this online?

[Daisy Phelps]

We don't know. I think the girl's perspective.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's. So it's the girl.

[Blake]

Oh, okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Blake]

The villain here is whoever. The villain here is whoever posted these screenshots onto the Internet because fair. When that much of your life is. Is being.

[Daniel Boston]

When you're.

[Blake]

When you're thought to something super personal and just super between two people like this is to blast it on the Internet. It's just wrong. No, the purpose of this is not to get points for who's right in this argument. The purpose of a potential marriage is not your social media likes or anything like that. And more generally, this is a controversial take I have because I guess he got shot down in public.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is it?

[Daniel Boston]

Maybe.

[Blake]

This is weird. I don't like public proposals.

[Alex Clark]

Agree.

[Jasmine Crockett]

I.

[Blake]

They rub me the wrong way. It's. It's making an event out of it when it should be. It should be between the two of you. And if they wouldn't say yes in private, then this is not a thing you should do.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well said, Blake.

[Daisy Phelps]

You would hope that. But the breaking off of a relationship that's serious enough to get to the Point of engagement would be a little more heartbreaking instead of, I'm just gonna post this online. And we don't know all of the facts. We don't know what happened between the two of them. But I can't tell if people are upset that the ring is from Walmart or if they're upset that she said no in public or that she's just posting these messages online. I can't really tell what the issue is here other than this couple should not be getting married.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mikey has a take that I think will us blowing the brake again, because then we're going to argue about it.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, I don't know if I still agree with my old take, because Blake, the real, you know, she. Her posting this is the problem.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, but what is.

[Mikey McCoy]

But let's pretend this was just leaked. I think from a view here, a lot of this is out of context, but she probably told her boyfriend many times what she wanted. And it could have been a 900 ring, but it could have been a very specific cut. And that's probably maybe her. Her personality, maybe her love language is gifts, and she just really wanted something specific. And it's him not listening to her, having said that 200 times, that actually.

[Charlie Kirk]

Made her upset, because she does make the point. It's that you didn't. You didn't listen.

[Mikey McCoy]

You didn't listen.

[Charlie Kirk]

What do you think?

[Blake]

Well, I'm not married. I don't want to wade into this territory. I feel if you're fixating on the ring, that's a problem. Like, it's not the ring you got to live with.

[Charlie Kirk]

She's not fixating on the ring. She's fixating on the fact he didn't listen to her.

[Daisy Phelps]

So maybe, maybe. And Alex can speak to like, Alex has all silver jewelry on right now. I have all gold jewelry on. I know. Mikey and Andrew, you both went through this when you both proposed to your wives. Like, there is a specific color that each woman wears. And if I. If Luke had gotten down on money and proposed me with a silver ring, I still would say yes, but I would say, hey, I've told you a thousand times, I only wear gold jewelry. I'm not sure where this went wrong. I would say that goes into it.

[Alex Clark]

I would have a pit in my stomach if someone proposed to me with a gold ring because that's not my color. And I would have, like, said a million times, but you said yes.

[Daisy Phelps]

She means maybe that's the issue.

[Mikey McCoy]

What? You still would have said yes.

[Alex Clark]

I would have been like, yes, But I, I would have this like, very like, like disturbed part of me that's like, is this the man for me? If he literally can't listen to the most basic direction, not even listening, but.

[Daisy Phelps]

Like observing, you would hope maybe, I don't know.

[Charlie Kirk]

Here's the thing. Most couples when they get to this point in their relations, they do discuss the ring. And if he just completely tuned that out and went to Walmart just to get it done and focused on the like show of it, I can understand why she's a little upset. But you don't post the chats, stop posting text messages that are private for the love. And that goes for all of you out there, too. You know who you are. We'll be back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The government is back open, but how much damage did the US economy sustain during the 40 plus day shutdown? More importantly, what's a solid hedge for you to invest in for the next time something like this happen? Because there's a good possibility it will happen. Philip Patrick. PHILIP Patrick excuse me. Precious metals specialist with the Birch Gold Group joins me to discuss. So good to see you, my friend.

[Philip Patrick]

Good morning to you as well, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

So let's just get right to the, let's just cut right to the chase. Gold is the hedge against when there's another government shutdown, against when the economy goes into the tank. Gold is where you probably should put some of your money.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Money.

[Philip Patrick]

The answer is yes, and we're seeing it. Gold is up over 60% for the year. Silver up about 85% for the year. Things like this, volatility, political instability, all of these things obviously bode well for safe haven assets like gold. They also tell the world that we haven't got our fiscal house in order, which is a very telling sign. Again, all of these things supporting higher gold prices and we're seeing it in its movement.

[Terrence Bates]

So this year, gold, of course, reached over $4,000 an ounce, which is an all time high given the volatility. Specifically here in the United States with the US Dollar being the world's currency, if you will, its reserve currency. Are you expecting gold to go up to even more historic heights?

[Philip Patrick]

The answer is absolutely yes. You have Goldman Sachs coming out, they say $5,000 by, by, by this time next year. We had Jamie Dimon not long ago saying, and I quote, gold could easily get to $8,000 an ounce in climates like this. And you referenced a couple of things we mentioned earlier. You know, sort of political instability when it comes to curbing spending and disagreements that are happening. We still have a massive deficit, around $2 trillion for next year. The rest of the world are looking at our fiscal situation saying this may not be the safe bet. Rather it once was being the US dollar and they're moving. US dollar holdings by central banks are at 30 year lows. Gold buying has set records since 22. We saw the single biggest quarter for gold purchasing this last quarter, the third quarter of this year. The pace is escalating. Gold is now the number two global res asset and I think within a decade it'll be the number one. We have to remember prior to the 80s, gold was the standard for global reserve. It was replaced by the dollar. And I think we're seeing slowly a reversion back to that.

[Terrence Bates]

And I think it's important to point out that when we're talking about buying gold, it's not necessarily buying gold bars and stacking them in your basement. You can also invest in gold, IRAs or other sorts of investment that focus on gold. Can you explain that to our viewers?

[Philip Patrick]

Yeah, absolutely. For Those that have IRAs or 401ks out there, they're exposed to the markets. They have an option to move any portion. So it's not an all or nothing play. They can move any portion of that ira. Tax deferred, penalty free. We can place physical precious metals stored fully insured within a licensed depository within that Iraq. Very easy to do. All clearly defined under US tax code. And it allows people to get exposure to metals without having to deal with the physical inventory and protecting a retirement account at the same time.

[Terrence Bates]

I notice you said metals, plural. Obviously the focus tends to be gold, but there are other precious metals out there as well that are also accruing value.

[Philip Patrick]

Oh, absolutely. Silver's up over 85% this year. It's a really interesting one. We also deal with platinum and palladium. I think the first two though, gold and silver. In climates like this, really important. Gold's the monetary hedge. It protects against dollar devaluation. Silver's that interest in growth play used heavily in booming technologies like AI chips, solar technology, electric cars. So both seeing a pickup in this climate can somewhat hedge each other. Silver for the industrial side, gold for the monetary hedge. So I'm recommending both to people and yes, they have options.

[Terrence Bates]

Absolutely. Philip. Patrick, always good to talk to you, my friend. Great insight on why you may want to purchase gold or even invest in silver as well. The information to do so right there at the bottom of your screen.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. We have cleared out the set. It's me and Mikey on the set. I believe we, we still have, I mean, if that is your real name, we have Blake. And we're about to be joined by Rep. Tim Burchette from the great state of Tennessee, who's just been doing heroes work here. Rep. But I have to, Congressman, since they brought you in early, I'll bring you into this conversation. We're talking about Walmart wedding rings. There's a whole big viral story that's blown up. This woman said no because the gentleman did not get the right ring. And we got this email from an absolute legend. Her name's Kim. He says, hey, all, I'm much older than all of you, married almost 40 years. I received no engagement ring at all and still said yes. Gold, silver, metal, paper mean nothing. Get refocused on what matters. Hear, hear. Kim. God bless that. God bless Kim for setting the record.

[Blake]

What a hero.

[Charlie Kirk]

What a hero. Yeah. And so, Congressman, we'll welcome you in now. I mean, I don't know if you want to opine on wedding ring choices and if you should get them from Walmart or the shape, if they matter, but the floor is yours. Welcome to the Charlie Kim Show.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

It's actually Buret So you said BURCHETT oh, Bur.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, sir.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Nobody ever gets, nobody ever gets it right. That's cool.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you know what, Congressman, I did better. I did talk to your team before this. I will say, and I'm pretty sure I said it wrong there, too, and they did not correct me. BURET well, God bless you.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

That's why I'll be looking for a new team when I get off this call. Now, wedding rings. You know, I gave my wife my mama's wedding ring. My daddy came home from the Second World War in the Pacific and you can't see it, but these mess up the camera angle here. But let's see if I can do it up here. You see these, these guns that are behind me here? Well, I don't know. Anyway, they're up there on the wall there. Guns my dad took off the dead Japanese soldiers that he actually killed in combat. But my daddy came home from the war and bought an Indian motorcycle with his what they called mustering out pay, which is a couple hundred bucks. He was on Palelu and Okinawa and then went to China and fought the communists after war in the Marine Corps. His colonel was a guy named Jesse Puller. But Daddy, when he came Home from the war. He. He did, like a lot of guys did. They. They raised a little hell. And he rode his Indian around, and then he finally sold it to buy my mama her wedding ring. Well, I gave my wife that wedding ring, and I bought a 1947 Indian Chief, and I still. And I have both. I have all three of them. I have my wife, that wedding ring, and the Indian chief that my. It's very. It's identical to the one my dad had that he sold to buy that wedding ring for. So I guess I'm sentimental, but. And it's not a very big wedding ring, but.

[Charlie Kirk]

But it's. I love it.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

But it seemed to help keep. And. And diamonds are a racket anyway.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a. Yeah, they are.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

It's a conglomerate. I don't know that they're that rare. I just know that they. They charge you a heck of a lot of money, so. And Anna Plain alumna is calling me right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Let me cut her off. Yeah, tell her. Tell her. Not right now. Congressman, you are an absolute legend, I think. Yeah, there you go. You flip back. I'll tell APL to stop interrupting our show here as well. Nasty Graham. So. But, Congressman, you know, I mean, we're going to talk about. Epstein, just a second. But I just. It strikes me that the values that. That gave rise to people like you in this America that we all sort of seem to have this memory of, we have just lost touch with it. We've lost track. We lost the plot somewhere along the way. And I think that's why you seem to resonate with people so much, is that you are a throwback. You are somebody that represents an America that my family, when I was raised in Northern Nevada, rancher stock, rodeos and baseball and chewing tobacco. Like, that's. That's, you know, my. My grandpa fought in the Second World War as well. I mean, it's just. It's refreshing to hear. Hear the way you look at things candidly. And I mean, I guess you represent your people well in that way.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Thank you. Actually, that's when they do this crazy poll and all those outside polling groups come in and do this.

[Daniel Boston]

And.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

And that's generally what they find out. A lot of people don't agree with him, but they know how I stand. And, you know, mama was a mom and daddy grew up in the Depression and she flew an airplane during the Second World War. So, I mean, they. They instilled some pretty good values in me. And I. I've tried to. I hope I haven't disappointed them and, but I'm, you know, I guess my chosen profession, they probably thought I'd do something honorable instead of go to, go to Congress.

[Charlie Kirk]

But.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

No, but I appreciate you saying that, brother. I just, I'm, I'm sick of it. I'm just sick of it. And, and playing talk wins out. I don't, you know, it's funny. When I first got to Congress, I asked the leadership, I asked everybody, I said, please get me, you know, help me get on the news, help me talk to the press. I'd like to put our message out. And nobody would ever help me. Leadership would, oh, we'll help you. And then they run you down some dirt road somewhere and, you know, and I found out that I'm just going to do my own dadgum thing. And that's what we've done. And, and we've had some really good success. I feel like our message has resonated. I know you know that when I'm walking through airports, little old ladies give me the thumbs up. So as long as that's the finger sticking up at me, I'm okay with it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think that's the right one. Yeah.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, Congressman, as well, you talk about straight talk and just cutting through the noise, you made a lot of news yesterday with this selfie video. It looks like you're walking out of the Capitol Building. If I'm, if I'm not mistaken, I'm looking at screen grab. Take us, take us back two steps because you get through this shutdown and then wham, Democrats release this bombshell about Epstein. How did we even get to that point? Because you're on the Oversight Committee, correct?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah, yeah. And Chairman Comer is doing the right thing. He's, it's boring, tedious work, but he's, he just released several thousand more pages yesterday. They're going through it and they're redacting the names of innocent people. And some of these girls that don't want their name out, and that's something that needs to be talked about at some point is that some of these ladies don't want their names out. And the Democrats are just hell bent on, on destroying these people's lives. I mean, they're going to, instantly, overnight, they're going to have a microphone stuck in their face. And some of them have gone on to lie. You know, they have families and, you know, they don't want to, they want to put that memory out. And we were literally in a closed door meeting. Democrats and Republicans were there and we, it wasn't a question answer, but I felt like I was, I needed to be that person. And I said, hey, I said, this lady said she wanted to access to the files because she was in them, but her mind had. Had blacked it all out. And God gives people that defense mechanism. Sometimes people incur some just horrendous things as children or whatever. And, and that's a defense mechanism, and it's blocked out of their, Their mind. And she wanted to go back and read the files and find out where she was and what, what they've done with that dirt bag had done to her. And, and so they said. And so I said, ma', am, so you want the files released? And she said, no, I do not want the files released. I just want to have access to them. And, you know, and they're like. And the attorney said, no, she does not want those files released. And, and, you know, that never gets out, and I'm just sick of it. And, and the Democrats yesterday proved exactly what they're all about during the shutdown and everything out. It's political theater. All they want is power and control. They don't want anything out. They just want the control over the mindset of the pop. Of the population. Oh, we're going to take your health care away. We're going to starve you to death. And nothing is further from the truth. And yesterday proved it, because this lady that's in that, this email that they released said Trump did her no harm. She said that under oath in court, in a dadgum federal court setting. I mean, she could do time if she, if they, if she perjured herself and she wanted her name not released. But in her bravery, she just said, forget it. And she said, this is a lie. This is not. This is not accurate. So you're going to believe Epstein and Gils, Lane Maxwell or whatever the heck her name is.

[Charlie Kirk]

I got one name wrong. I can help you with that one.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah, yeah. You're going to believe them over this? This, the innocent, this victim. That's, that's what the Democrats are doing. They do not care about the people. All they care about is damaging Trump. If, look, if Joe Biden had this for four years and there was one iota of damaging evidence against Donald Trump, don't you think they would release it? They will not answer that. They will not answer it. Kamala Harris or Kamala or whatever the heck her name was or is.

[Charlie Kirk]

She would have.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

She would have. You know, Donald Trump is the Antichrist to these people. They wake up every morning with just this white hot hatred of Trump and they can't and they because they've been spoon fed by the liberal media. It turns out a lot of it your tax dollars were funding and this is what we get.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. One second, Congressman, we got to take a quick radio break. More with Representative Tim Burchett out of Tennessee. Second we'll be right back. The great reset stops here.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

The Charlie Kirk Show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Back to the Charlie Kirk Show. More with Congressman Burchett in just a second. First, I want to tell you about why Refi So if you find yourself, yourself in a student loan hole and if it's private student loans, these are not federal student loans, which the federal government should get out of the student loan business, by the way. But if these are private student loans and you find yourself in a hole, you got to check out yrefi.com that's yrefy.com they will help you refinance distressed or defaulted private student loans that others will not touch. It doesn't matter how bad your credit is, doesn't matter what the story is. Okay? They're going to work with you, find out your monthly budget and they're going to tailor a solution that will work with you. They even let you skip a payment every six months up to 12 times without penalty. You don't have to ignore that mountain of student loan statements that are piling up on your kitchen table anymore. The good folks at Y Refi will help you out. You just talk to them. It's not some nameless, faceless call center. They're going to. You're going to talk to a representative that knows how to get from point A to point B and get you a solution. You can call them 888yrefi34. 888yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com that's yrefy.com may not be available in all 50 states, but if it's available in your state, you need to check them out. They support Turning Point usa. They support this show. They are good patriots, good people that you're definitely going to want to connect with. So we have a clip here from Charlie about Epstein. I want to see if we can fit it in. Go ahead and play.310.

[Jasmine Crockett]

And this is no longer just speculation. First of all, the evidence that shows that Epstein was a creation of either Mossad, Israeli intelligence, American intelligence, Saudi intelligence, or maybe he was just a hired gun. Maybe he was just the guy that countries would go to and park a couple hundred million bucks and say hey, can you get one of the members of the royal family with a 13 year old so we can get them to do what we want to do? First of Congress are actively being blackmailed. The Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis.

[Daniel Boston]

Ooh.

[Charlie Kirk]

So was Epstein just like a elaborate foreign honey pot op? We're gonna ask Congressman Burchett when we get back. We're welcome back national radio in about three seconds. We'll be right back.

[Daniel Boston]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Char Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined by Congressman Burchett and Mikey McCoy, if that is his real name. Congressman, you. I want to get to this video that made a ton of waves yesterday. It's a little bit longer, so maybe we'll cut it off halfway through, but go ahead and play cut.291 just left the House floor.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

And I tried to do a UC unanimous consent of a. Tried to get the Epstein files, get it straight to the floor, just cut out all this nonsense. And you know, and the Democrats blocked it, oddly enough. Now here they've had it for four years and they obviously, if there's something there about Trump, they would have released it. And now they're all, let's get it out, let's get it out. Well, I just made a motion, Congressman.

[Charlie Kirk]

So you tried to call their bluff. Here is what I'm seeing. And you know, and now Adam Kinzinger saying, who's not even in Congress, he's coming at you saying, oh, this is wrong. It was not a uc Democrats didn't oppose it. What's the story here? And what were you. What were you driving it?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

I actually put another video out today just to correct some of those folks, like Adam and I used to sit in front of Adam. I'm not sure what happened. I think I know what happened to Adam. I'd love to talk to somebody sometime about it, what my theory is. But anyway, I clarified exactly what I did. I put out unanimous consent. You have to. And by definition, it's a unanimous consent. It has to be unanimous. So the Republican leadership agreed with it. Speaker Johnson did, and Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats disagreed with it. They did not want it out. And it was Ro Khanna's bill. It didn't affect Massie's bill at all. His, his. Whatever they want to do with that is fine, but I'm just sick of it because yesterday proved my point with all that garbage coming out on Trump that was just, just falsified. Look, they want to grab articles out of that thing. They want to Pick and choose and probably both sides do. And that's fine, that's politics. But America deserves a little better. Just throw it all out there and let them decide and cut through all the chase because what they're going to do is they're going to, it's going to go to rules committee, it's going to go through all this other nonsense that we really don't need. It puts too much power in people's hands and then they just pontificate on it for hours and it gives the news that hates Trump, that hates America, just more ammo to do it. And I just said, look, put it on your nav's consent. And then it, then it says everyone voted for it, nobody can say they didn't vote for it. And it puts it on the dad gum, it puts it on act and it's done. And then it goes to the Senate. But I doubt that they wanted, they want a dog and pony show. And you know, Ro Khanna is a Democrat. He's, he represents one of the most, actually the wealthiest area of the country is Silicon Valley out there in California, I guess. So he, you know, he even sent me a message and said, you know, thank you, brother, more or less, you know, we're friends. I'm actually going to go visit his district, I'm going to bring him out here on the farm and let the donkeys chase him around a little bit. And so, Congressman, so I want to.

[Charlie Kirk]

Get here, I want to get your point on. I'm so glad you called their bluff because you're right. If they would have had something four years of Joe Biden, they would have, have released it, let's be honest. But who do you think Jeffrey Epstein was? What was his, what, what was that about? We got about two minutes here. Please tell us what you think the, the truth of this whole story is.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

He's a dirt bag. He's burning in hell, of course, and I'm glad. I would have seen him there myself. I don't think he committed suicide. I think something happened to him that's, that's neither here nor there. I think he was, he was out there and he, he, he, he was a flagrant name dropper. He was an egomaniac. And so he put his name out there and these groups seized upon him and then he moved in the direction that they needed and he came up with this scheme of being a money manager. And in other countries, con, I think they can try. I don't think he had any soul. I just think they contracted with him and he got caught up in it. And as those guys do and he just as lasted. A lot of these pedophiles do and he cost a lot of ladies their lives and that's what he did. And countries used him. And yeah, the honey pot exists, but more or less now today, you know, they hire your wife and, or your girlfriend to work in some no, no show, 100, $200,000 job and, and then you just vote both their will. But the way they work the honey pots is, you know, you're, you're in some foreign, I don't go on these, these trips overseas. I'm not, that's not my bag. But they go overseas, you're sitting at some bar and they know what you like, you know, because they own all the porn sites. They're monitoring everything you do and all your thoughts. So if you're in the, in the ladies, there's gonna be some pretty lady laughing at your jokes and you're like redheads or whatever and they're, they're gonna bring a redhead in and next thing you know, you're, you're in a motel room with them, sleeping with them. And then you think, well, I, I, I just pulled off the perfect crime. It's out of country. The wife doesn't know, the kids doesn't know. It just had back of whatever. And then you're getting ready to make a boat and some person, you know, it's usually always somebody, you know, walks up and they've got, you know, the envelope in their hand or something and they say, hey, I've got, how are you gonna vote on this? Well, I'm gonna be voting for it. Oh, you can't do that. Oh, yeah, yeah, you, yeah, yeah. I am saying no. I said, were you in a motel room in, in Istanbul? You know, and then they go, oh crap. He said, man, we don't want that out. And they go, oh no, no, no, I can't have that out. Oh, look, we need to vote against this bill. And then that's how they do it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm going to hold you just a few seconds. Over the break. More with Congressman Burchett. Just one second.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The federal government is back open and many furloughed federal workers are back on the job right now. Air traffic controllers and TSA agents have been working this entire time without being paid. But today, some of them got what they were owed directly from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

[Alex Clark]

Today, though, we have many other TSA officers here that I'm going to be handing bonus checks to. Every single one of these individuals served with exemplary service, which means they were in an example of not only taking seriously the security concerns and measures that TSA has to every single day in the Department of Homeland Security, but also they went above and beyond. They helped individuals, they served extra shifts, they helped with transportation of people getting back and forth to work. Other challenges that families may have. They were all examples of what we need. And we will be be continuing to not only recognize employees across the country, but we will be looking at every single TSA official that helped serve during this government shutdown and do what we can to recognize that and help them financially with a bonus check to get them and their family back on their feet.

[Terrence Bates]

The government will stay open at least until January 30. China in the meantime, says that it will do its part to fight the deadly scourge of fentanyl that claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans last year. FBI Director Cash Patel says his Chinese counterpart has agreed to crack down on the chemicals that are used to make the deadly drug. Director Patel also says, quote, we are dismantling the infrastructure that fuels this crisis at its source. And Boeing is set to pay more than 26 billion or million dollars, $28 million in damages to the families of a United nations environmental worker who was killed in the 2019 crash of a 737 Max jet in Ethiopia. It's the first of dozens of lawsuits against the airplane maker related to the deadly crashes that happened in Ethiopia and Indonesia. The suits claim that Boeing's design of the plane was defective and that the company failed to warn passengers. In all, 347 people died.

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[Daniel Boston]

Thanks for having me, Andrew.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's. Honestly, it's an honor to have you. You are one of those companies that when everything went down and the tragedy that we all experienced, you guys have just remained steadfast. And you. You have my respect, my appreciation. And also, you know, the reason that we were with you to begin with, I mean, it was a really intense vetting process that we went through, and so we knew that you guys were our kind of people. We knew that there was alignment on a bunch of different things. But. But then the way that you've handled this in the aftermath has been just amazing. So honored to have you here. And you even just got a tour of all the buildings. I mean, so we could start there if you want, and tell us what you thought of it.

[Daniel Boston]

It was unbelievable. When Charlie passed. It was. I mean, the moment. It's still surreal now. It's still hard to just really believe that this has actually happened, but to see the overwhelming support that's flooded into this place from all over the country, you know, for the last 12 years, really, it's just felt like a country that's been. Become more and more divided. And, you know, through this event, you're seeing people come together at levels that's just really hard to imagine. So, you know, one of my favorite verses is all things work together for good. And I just can't think of a situation that's more where that rings more true than this one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And I think a lot has been made of some of the bad behavior that we've seen, some of the worst of humanity, if you will. But I'm always the voice telling people, I'm like, yeah, we should call it out, because it's disgusting. It's gross. But the amount of positive has so overwhelmed the negative. And when you're in our vantage point, when you see it from here and you see the mail room where we have. I don't know if they showed you that. Yeah, we saw it with just the endless amount of gifts and letters and paintings and trinkets and. And that came in from all over the country to honor Charlie and to pay their respects to Erica. I always say we don't grieve the way the world grieves. And I miss Charlie every day. He's the first thing I think about when I wake up. He's the last thing I think about before I go to bed. I've literally only been watching Seinfeld because Charlie loves Seinfeld. And it's like I fall asleep to Seinfeld because it makes me think of Charlie. And I just last night I was watching Golden Boy. That's a T shirt with Golden Boy. Charlie used to always like joking about Golden Boy. It's Jerry Seinfeld's favorite T shirt. I mean, I miss him so much, but I know that God put him on this planet to do this very remarkable thing, and that is to galvanize the youth, to inspire a new generation to believe in the American idea, that the social compact that this country has made with generations of American Americans. And right now, we're looking at a situation where some of that work that Charlie did is being threatened. Economic conditions are rough, especially for younger Americans trying to get a job. The dollar is all over the place. President Trump's doing his best. We're trying to get this investment, foreign investment, other companies investing again in manufacturing. But there's a lot of headwinds. There's a lot of headwinds and AI is coming on. So from a economic standpoint, and this was one of Charlie's biggest passions economically. Could you sum up this current moment for us? I mean, I know we're going to get into precious metals, we're going to get into gold, we're going to get into hedging. How do you, how do you take care of yourself? But right now, in this economic moment, what do you make of this climate?

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah, there's a lot that, a lot to try and digest in terms of what's going on right now, now. And what I would tell people is up to the year 2000, we were in a growth based economy. Interest rates were really high. In the 80s and 90s, we saw interest rates climb almost 18%. And so you could put money in a savings account and Earn a really nice return since the year 2000, really to present, we've seen interest rates practically go to zero, which has deincentivized people from putting money into these types of accounts where you can accumulate. And so the way that we would invest up to the year 2000 should be a lot different than the way that we're approaching our finances today. We're in a debt based economy now. And it's extremely problematic because when you hold reserve currency status, the US dollar is the world reserve currency. That situation seems to be eroding pretty quickly. We went off the petrodollar last year. And what's really compelling to me right now is that just since COVID in the year 2020, the dollar's lost about 20, 25% of its value. And that's due to money printing and inflation. And I don't think people really understand the damage that this causes to someone who's trying to save and prepare for retirement. So the only thing that gives a dollar any real value is the faith that the American public puts into it. And really the public, the world puts into it. And so when you have a fed that seems to believe that money grows on trees, that whenever we have problems, we can just print our problems away. That's a recipe for disaster.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and I want to talk about that because I'm just looking at the price of gold here. In the last year, it's gone up 15, $26, it's gone up 57%. That's a lot.

[Daniel Boston]

Pretty unbelievable.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a, that's crazy. I didn't realize it was that much. So if you would have bought gold at, let's see here, let's just say a year ago it would have been. I think I've got. Yeah, 2654. Now you buy gold is at 4201.

[Daniel Boston]

Speaks for itself, right?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean this is exactly what you. So it's funny because I think gold companies sometimes like precious metal companies get like a bad rap. Like. And by the way, we, we work with you because you guys are, are really good at this and you are good people. That's the key. There's a lot of. There are shysters in the space. You guys are not one of them. That's why we chose you. You chose us. But this is. It goes up 1500 bucks in a year. 57%. That's real. Like that is a hedge against this easy money, as Steve Bannon calls it, the lords of easy money that print us into the weakening of the US dollar. You got the brics, nations that are weakening the US dollar that are trying to create a sort of bipolar economic world. And here you got gold that's holding steady. Not only holding steady, it's growing tremendously. And this is the key, is that real working people, people that are not the economic incumbents, as I call them. Economic incumbents have a lot of assets. They have housing valuations that are going through the roof. They've got, got 401ks and stocks and bonds and all of these things. But it's working class people too that really get hit and holding the bag here when inflation hollows out your purchasing power. And so it's like these are the hedges that real people can access and get through. Preserve gold that can get into this economy and make sure that the policies out of Washington are not bankrupting them.

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah. I mean, what I would add is if you're holding a stock, stock, for example, if you look at that stock, you got to go into cash. So really you're at the mercy of the dollar because the dollar is the root of pretty much every financial instrument that you utilize. Gold going up the way it's gone up, silver performing the way it's been performing. And we haven't really seen inflation or real market volatility get priced into the financial markets. So the fact that it's moving up the way it is, it's almost as if it's moving up in anticipation of what's going to go. I mean, I always tell people Donald Trump has a responsibility to the overall welfare and health of the economy. Americans have a responsibility to their own finances. And you know, we're, I think we're going to see that the policies that he's putting in place are going to create that they can't create pain, especially short term disruption. Disruption.

[Charlie Kirk]

There is going to be economic disruption. If we're going to set the house straight, if we're going to settle accounts, if we are going to set ourselves up, up for a brighter economic future, there's absolutely going to be disruption. Not only that, there's going to be the AI revolution disruption. Right. We're seeing this with new graduates trying to get jobs in the economy. There's going to be disruption. And that's why these conversations are so important when we're talking about what we're going to do next.

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah. I think the question you should ask yourself is why has gold and why has silver performed the way it has? And I think if you just go throughout history, I mean, you can go. So really you can Go back to the Great Depression. But every single time we've had a major market crash. In 2000, we had the techmania.com bubble burst. Essentially what happens? First, the bond market went sideways, oil prices plummeted, the dollar sold off. The bond market sold off shortly thereafter as well. Gold and silver prices more than doubled in 2008 during the housing crisis. Same thing. So when money rotates out of stocks and bonds during a market crash, when it rotates out of cash during periods of inflation, it just needs a place to go. Though it tends to gravitate towards gold and silver first because they are the classic safe haven investments and that's what causes prices to go up. So if you're trying to. If you look at the economic climate and you go over the next two, three, four years, do I believe the market's going to be higher or lower? If the answer is lower, then what can I use to hedge against that downside? You don't put all your eggs in one basket on either side. But the more you can diversify a portfolio against market risk and take advantage of growth, then the better off you are in the long term. Because that's what investment should be. It should be long term focus.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely. And long term, I mean, again, this isn't long term, but year to date. I'm looking at gold right now and it's actually up even more. Or silver. I'm looking at silver right now. Silver is actually up more than gold year to date. So if you would have bought at the beginning of the year, it would have been, let's see here, 29 bucks, 29.90, something like that. Now it is at 53.46. That's a 75 point. Well now just it's going up and down 4 or 5% increase. Why is silver going up faster than gold? I'm just curious about a minute left in the set.

[Daniel Boston]

That's a great question. Gold and silver are brother sister metals. They track each other. So gold's all time high. Before this run up was about around $2,000 an ounce. It reached that number in response to the 2008 financial crisis. From 2008 to 2011, at the same time we sell silver go to 50. So now gold being at 4,000, gold's doubled its record high. Silver just hit its record high. So you can easily make the argument that percentage wise, silver will be the better performer. It will continue to go up. I think we're going to see gold. If I had to guess by the middle of next year, we could see gold at 6,000, 6,500. And if that happens, we can easily see silver, I think between 75 and $100 an ounce.

[Philip Patrick]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

We say that again. You think gold could, I mean, obviously this is not, nobody knows what the future holds. But you were saying you think it's.

[Daniel Boston]

Possible to see gold hit what, 6,000, $6,500 an ounce. And this is just not my opinions. We've seen bank of America, Goldman Sachs come out with forecasts.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that would be numbers $2,400 higher than it is right now.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. All right. You're getting my attention, which I guess is what this is your job. But that's an amazing, I mean there's a lot of people predicting that. All right. So I want to tell you really quick. We're going to have more about the economic conditions right now. I want to tell you about Done With Debt. When you're buried in credit card, in loan debt, it's human nature to put it off and say I'll deal with it later. Don't do that. Don't procrastinate when it's your own finances. Here's a hidden fact they don't want you to know is that they if you work on your debt situation right now, you stand a better chance of solving it. This is what Done With Debt knows. They aggressively engage everyone you owe money to and they do it now. They know that the fall, right now, going into the winter is when you have to do it because there's credit card companies that are doing year end accounting and need to cut deals. They even know which ones have year end audits and need to get your debt completely off their books. So get started now while you still have time. Go to donewithdebt.com and talk with one of their specialists for free. Visit donewithdebt.com donewithdet.com all right, more with Daniel Boston when we get back from the break. Don't go anywhere. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

The CHARLIE Kirk show.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, Real America's Voice streaming podcast. We are joined by Daniel Boston from Preserve Gold. You're just telling me it's surreal to be in here. And I agree, actually, every time I step into this studio space and I look at Charlie's empty chair and see his that amazing picture, I believe that was from the RFK endorsement event that we put on the back back here in Phoenix when RFK endorsed President Trump. We actually produced that at Turning Point. I mean, tell Us. I mean, you know, when you walk into the space, what do you feel?

[Daniel Boston]

Unbelievably, it's a sense of peace, calmness.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Daniel Boston]

You know, I stepped in. It was, you know, initial sadness just thinking about the person that we lost. But when I feel the presence in the room, the energy in the room, it's. I feel peaceful.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I think Charlie felt that too. He loved being in here. And we found him his big giant Nephilim chair. Charlie was huge. He was like 6, 5. And everybody always, the first thing is you're taller than I realized. I don't know what they thought he was, but yeah, he was a big, big guy. And so we have this giant chair here. And it brings me peace too sometimes.

[Daniel Boston]

To look at it.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll be right back. Welcome back national radio. All right, welcome back radio stations across the country. We are here with preserved gold Daniel Boston. Oh, what is this? This looks like fun stuff. I love. Oh, is that, that's, this is silver, right?

[Daniel Boston]

Five ounce silver. Americans.

[Charlie Kirk]

Beautiful. Five ounce silver. And it's, it's a quarter. Can I get a zoom in on this?

[Daniel Boston]

That's a five ounce silver coin. Five ounce George Washington is one side of the coin.

[Charlie Kirk]

What's that?

[Daniel Boston]

George Washington is one side. And then that coin makes up different state parks.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, Chickasaw. This would be Oklahoma. Yeah. Because it's 2011. How they did all the 50 states and the quarters. This is great. It's heavy, man.

[Daniel Boston]

It's a beautiful coin.

[Charlie Kirk]

That is awesome. Okay, so listen, so if somebody's out there and by the way, I just wanted to get a bit of breaking news here. John Fetterman, Senator John Fetterman apparently has fallen and has been rushed to the hospital. He had a ventricular fibrillation flare up that caused him to fall and hit his face. But I'm told that he's in good spirits. He's saying, if you thought my face looked bad before, wait until you see it now. So actually just, you know, I know that John Fetterman still votes like a Dem most of the time, and that is what it is. But he's been defending Charlie, he's been defending free speech. He's been a voice of reason. So I, you know, I'm happy to hear he's doing, doing well. So back to the topic at hand here though. There's a. You've got this. The Precious Metals IRA 2025. It's. So is IRA the kind of the way that is that like the, what you found is if you, if you've not invested in precious metals, gold and silver and all these things. Is that the best way to kind of get started, do you think? Is that the easiest way or what do you recommend? What's the course?

[Daniel Boston]

Actually action I recommend. So there's two different ways you can go about getting started with Preserve Gold, but it really depends on everyone's unique situation. We really try and take time for the people that we're working with to understand their goals, ask the right questions so we can understand that situation, then make recommendations based on that. The IRA program that we offer allows you to take your existing retirement account, whether it's an IRA, a 401k, 403b, tsp, any kind of qualified retirement account. You can roll those funds in that account over completely tax free, penalty free, into a new ira. We'd establish for you that that can hold physical gold or silver inside the account. So that way instead of having exposure to stocks, bonds, mutual funds, really paper based assets, you can have hard physical metals inside the account backing it up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I got an email here from Steve, says please ask how much it costs to sell gold on silver. Is that, is that, is that a. I guess, you know, if you have it. Does it, does it cost mixture? Is there a way to roll it over in a strategic way?

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah. Yeah. So whatever you buy from Preserve Gold, this is one of the main reasons why our clients love working with us amongst many. But whatever you, when you go to buy gold and silver from us, when it comes time for you to sell or liquidate out of your position, we charge zero fees.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Daniel Boston]

We get people the highest posted price on the market when they go to liquidate. Zero fees.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow, that's great. And other people. I would, I presume he's asking that question because he's run into other people that maybe.

[Daniel Boston]

I mean there's, there's dealers out there that can charge 10, 20% on the way out. So you invest 100,000, they're taking 10 to $20,000 in the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

No kidding.

[Daniel Boston]

We don't do that. We take a.

[Charlie Kirk]

And that's legal for them to do that.

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah. I mean this, this industry, that's something we should probably talk about.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. Talk about.

[Daniel Boston]

There are some bad actors in this industry. I'm not, obviously not going to mention any names. Names. But the reason why I actually founded Preserve Gold to begin with was because I had been in the industry doing this for over a decade before I started my company, Preserve Gold, and realized there just had to be a better way. I've seen Things from sales representatives, gold brokers lying about fees being charged, shipping, taking six months or longer for metals to be delivered, and I mean, all kinds of nightmare stories. Reserve Global's launch with a mission of transparency, being at the forefront of everything that we do so from disclosing fees to getting products shipped out promptly using the correct security protocols. And I think our reputation really represents.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what we found because of all the. I mean, and I told your team as well, you know, our standard in this space is like super, super high because we only want to work with people like yourself that do this the right way because our audience is everything to us. And we don't want them to. We don't want to lead them down a path that's gonna. They're gonna. I do not want one negative email from any of our sponsors, but especially this category. And you guys, I mean, when we looked at it, you guys had the best reputation of anybody out there.

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah. There's a reason for that. You know, everything is in full transparency, full disclosure. We have nothing to hide. There's a cost associated with doing business. We've got to keep the lights on. But we want to make sure that people understand what those costs are and the approach that we take with people that we work with. It's a no sales pressure strategy where it's very educational based. We ask questions, we get to know the people that we're working with. It's relationship oriented. And then based on that, we can make some recommendations so that people can land in a place where they can make the best decision for themselves.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so if you want to do this, go to preservegold.com. charlie, we got that right up there. That URL, check that out. Helps the show too. But it frankly, I mean, precious metals has been through the roof, so please check it out. Thank you. Daniel Boston, Preserve Gold. It's been a pleasure.

[Daniel Boston]

Yeah, thanks for having me, Andrew. Appreciate it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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