The Charlie Kirk Show, November 14, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show – Real America’s Voice

Date: November 14, 2025
Podcast Feed: Real America’s Voice
Host(s): Charlie Kirk, Andrew Colvett, Mikey McCoy, Tyler Boyer, Blake Neff
Notable Guests: Tiffany Justice (Heritage Action), Andy Ngo (Post Millennial)
Episode Theme:
A wide-ranging conversation on fraud in government welfare programs (SNAP/EBT), the administration’s responses to conservative priorities (immigration, affordability, housing), the crackdown on Antifa designated as a foreign terrorist organization, the effects of youth activism, and community Q&A on history, policy, and strategy.

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Main Theme / Purpose

The episode centers on exposing and debating government corruption (specifically regarding SNAP/EBT food assistance fraud), the Trump administration's policy pivots on affordability and immigration, the legal and social response to Antifa’s activities (including the recent foreign terrorist designation), and the grassroots conservative approach to winning future elections. There is also a focus on legacy building after Charlie Kirk's assassination, continuing his activism, addressing young Americans’ economic challenges, and facilitating listener engagement in the conservative movement.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. SNAP/EBT Fraud and Systemic Corruption

[00:22 – 03:36]

• Charlie Kirk, Tiffany Justice, and Tanya Wu discuss the depth of fraud within the SNAP program, sharing findings that nearly 200,000 deceased people are still "on the rolls," enabling illegal benefit collection.
  • "SNAP is a broken program. SNAP is full of corruption. We found 186,000 dead people." (Kirk, 00:22)
• Coverage from Seattle's Chinatown reveals a black market for EBT cards, where homeless addicts trade benefits for cash and drugs, despite police busts:
  • "Even after this massive bust, the hustlers are now back in business... Several people offered me their food stamp cards for pennies on the dollar." (Wu, 01:37)
• Community voice expresses desperation for stricter enforcement and the high cost to taxpayers, with calls to leverage political momentum for real reform:
  • "We all want this to stop... By some estimates, it costs taxpayers more than $10 billion per year." (Justice, 03:08)

Notable Quote:
"We know what the cycle looks like… Creating an ecosystem of crime and chaos. Out of all the neighborhoods in the city, the CID consistently ranks in the top three for fights, shootings and drug deals." – Tanya Wu (02:50)

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2. Policy Shifts: Affordability, Housing, and Immigration

[05:25 – 13:12]

• Kirk and co-hosts reflect on how administration messaging has pivoted to address conservative base demands, particularly among Gen Z (highlight: mass deportations, home-building, crushing the college cartel, reducing legal immigration).
  • "Their messaging was off… Now, there is multiple pieces of evidence… there has been a messaging pivot, that they hear the concerns… of the base." (Kirk, 06:32)
• Included cuts from JD Vance and Stephen Miller showcasing actions and economic indicators:
  • JD Vance: “A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive. Why is that? Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants…” (JD Vance via Kirk, 09:11)
  • Stat: US rental prices have seen the steepest October decrease in 15 years (down 0.31% MoM).
  • "So you want to look at the high level things. What do they spend the most on? The biggest expense for the vast majority of people is their housing…" (Neff, 19:33)
  • Stephen Miller: “President Trump is not content… He is fighting to bring down the cost of every single consumer and household good.” (Miller via Kirk, 18:00)
• Discussion ties declining rent to reduced immigration, enforcing Trump’s claimed strategy of affordability through deportations and self-deportations.

Notable Quote:
"This has a direct impact on costs going down, on rent going down, on affordability just in general... as a young couple, there's something about buying a house... knowing there's less illegals now, there's less criminals in this country now." – Mikey McCoy (20:41)

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3. Antifa: Foreign Terrorist Designation & Legal Consequences

[12:45 – 38:56]

• The administration's new approach: Marco Rubio and the State Department have classified various Antifa groups as foreign terrorist organizations, unlocking broader legal powers for prosecution and asset seizure.
  • "Secretary of State has designated Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization… unlocks extraordinary legal powers…" (Kirk, 13:12)
• Andy Ngo interview (27:33 – 38:56):
  • Explains the difference between “domestic terrorism” and “foreign terrorist organization” labels, legal implications, and the challenge of Antifa’s decentralized, transnational structure.
  • "Unlike the categorization of domestic terrorism… there’s actually legislation in a legal category of a foreign terrorist organization. These are now on the same category as ISIS, as Al Qaeda..." (Ngo, 28:19)
  • Tactics, communications (via Signal, burner phones), and crowdfunding strategies discussed; international Antifa cells named for specific violent acts (baton, hammer attacks, bombings).
  • Calls for the FBI to use these new tools to target funding and organizer networks.
• Panel likens Antifa’s tactics to the KKK’s historical campaign of intimidation and suppressing free speech.
  • "They're basically a modern KKK in the truest sense. Look up what the original KKK did… they should be treated that way." (Neff, 40:19)

Notable Quote:
"The FTO label is not symbolic. It’s a legal tool… asset freezes, travel bans and criminal penalties… it’s now a federal crime to belong to or assist the violent Antifa anarchist groups that were labeled." – Andy Ngo (31:09)

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4. Listener Q&A: History, Canadian Politics, Conservative Strategy

[55:48 – 88:44]

• On the Conservative Party of Canada:
  • Discussion of Pierre Poilievre’s mainstream CPC versus the more populist People's Party; warnings against abandoning populist energy. Cross-comparisons to UK and France.
    • “If you are not tapping into the populist energy of your party, you’re gonna miss the boat… The whole entire western world is either gonna go one way or the other.” (Kirk, 69:10)
• On Influencing the White House/Gen Z:
  • With Charlie Kirk’s absence, JD Vance and Chris Ruffo positioned as voices representing youth/activist priorities; continued engagement with the Trump admin’s “affordability moonshot.”
    • “JD Vance has stepped up in a huge way to be that… unite some of these warring factions within the conservative movement.” (Kirk, 78:52)
• On Deficit Spending: Caution about delusions around deficits; Modern Monetary Theory skepticism.
  • “I think we’re kind of getting into more and more of a delusional state on it… you can just print money forever and there’s actually no downside… There are many countries that have attempted that and I don’t know of any that have gotten away with it.” (Neff, 81:43)
• On Winning 2026 & Turning Point’s Role: Commitment to coalition-building for 2026, devoting organizational resources for higher youth turnout and ballot-chasing, expanding multi-group coordination with Heritage Action.
  • “If we can just by 2, 3, or 4 percentage points make the conservative movement more impactful... you win not 3 or 4% more elections, but 30 or 40% more." (Boyer, 93:40)

History/Literature Recommendations (Listener Book Question):

• Primary sources: Jefferson letters, Federalist papers.
• “Empire of Liberty,” “The Glorious Cause.”
• “The Radicalism of the American Revolution."
• Anti-Federalist Papers (“not enough education around these” – Boyer, 60:00).
• “Fears of a Setting Sun: The Disillusionment of America's Founders” (Neff, 61:01).

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5. Other Notable/Memorable Segments

• [42:57] Addressing the renewed allegations against Trump regarding Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Panel debunks recent claims, cites evidence and statements distancing Trump from Epstein, noting media backtracking (“There’s been volley after volley trying to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein… every single one… has basically been debunked." – Kirk, 45:41)
• [84:28] USS Liberty Incident
  • Blake Neff contextualizes the incident as a likely tragic accident or military incompetence, mentioning recent reappraisals by Dennis Prager, and addresses how it is frequently weaponized in online debate.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “SNAP is a broken program. SNAP is full of corruption. We found 186,000 dead people.” – Charlie Kirk (00:22)
• “If you don’t have EBT cards… neighbors in this area say they’ve seen less illegal activity on the streets.” – Tanya Wu (03:18)
• “A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive. Why is that? Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants…” – JD Vance (09:11)
• “The FTO label is not symbolic. It’s a legal tool under US law enabling sanctions… asset freezes, travel bans and criminal penalties.” – Andy Ngo (31:09)
• “They're basically a modern KKK in the truest sense.” – Blake Neff (40:19)
• “You have to give credit where it’s due… not only be a squeaky wheel… but also say thank you for listening.” – Kirk (18:00)
• “Nothing will matter, nothing will get done if we don’t get out the vote and actually win.” – Tyler Boyer (55:19)
• “If you are not tapping into the populist energy of your party, you're gonna miss the boat... UK is so buttoned up, it makes Canada look like a third world backwater..." – Charlie Kirk (69:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:22 – 03:36: SNAP/EBT fraud exposé; Seattle investigation.
• 09:11 – 11:35: JD Vance clip; immigration and housing costs.
• 12:45 – 31:09: Antifa, legal designation, and Andy Ngo’s analysis.
• 40:19 – 41:14: Antifa compared to KKK activities; speech suppression.
• 45:41 – 46:33: Trump-Epstein rumor rebuttal.
• 55:48 – end: Audience questions (Canada, American Revolution book list, youth activism, organizing for 2026, USS Liberty).

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Tone and Language

• Combative, urgent, and populist; determined focus on exposing corruption, demanding accountability, and ensuring conservative values are advanced legislatively and strategically.
• Panelists exhibit camaraderie, humor, and pointed criticism of opposition tactics, frequently referencing “the base,” activist energy, and inter-organizational collaboration.

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Conclusion

This episode offers broad, high-energy coverage of pressing conservative issues: welfare reform, affordability, housing, immigration, Antifa, and youth-driven political organizing. The discussion is framed in an activist, populist language, with frequent appeals for vigilance, action, and coalition-building ahead of the 2026 elections, reinforcing the importance of continuing Charlie Kirk’s legacy in mobilizing young and grassroots conservatives.

Transcript

[Andrew Colvett]

This is an I heart podcast.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now. SNAP is a broken program. SNAP is full of corruption. We found 186,000 dead people. We asked for the SNAP data earlier this year. It has never been turned over to.

[Andrew Colvett]

The federal government before.

[Tiffany Justice]

We had 29 states turn it over.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mostly red states. 21 states said, no, thank you. We're in litigation. From just those 29 states, we have.

[Tiffany Justice]

Found again, almost 200,000 dead people.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just. It's remarkable. If it wasn't for SNAP benefits, I wouldn't be able to feed my children.

[Tanya Wu]

As millions of low income Americans wait for food stamp benefits benefits to be fully restored.

[Terrence Bates]

Today.

[Charlie Kirk]

Tomorrow. Does it work?

[Tanya Wu]

Seattle's Chinatown International District is facing another kind of problem around this government assistance.

[Charlie Kirk]

Program fraudulently using food stamp cards.

[Tanya Wu]

Last month, SPD arrested 11 people in a food stamp fraud ring, with several more suspects still at large. Has your EBT Carbon shut down yet? Or. Investigators say homeless drug addicts were targeted and convinced bins to sell their benefit cards for cash on the streets.

[Charlie Kirk]

Police say that cash would then be used to buy drugs in the Chinatown International District.

[Tanya Wu]

But even after this massive bust, the hustlers are now back in business. You guys selling EBTs?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Terrence Bates]

How much? 50.

[Tanya Wu]

In this front lines turning point USA Discovery Institute joint investigation. We went straight to the epicenter of this black market. That's it. Okay, but how much you want for that? 25. 25? Oh, I mean, I'm. I'll pick that box the moment I arrived. How do I know you got credit on that? Several people offered me their food stamp cards for pennies on the dollar. These guys ended up arguing with each other because they were both competing for my business. Oh, that's yours? That's his. So they could feed their fentanyl addiction. Here's how it works. A runner took me to this local grocery store, asked me to pick out 200 worth of items, and. And said I could have it all for half the cost. That's a $100 savings. I did not follow through for obvious legal reasons. All right, you got one too. Even as I was trying to leave, I was getting hounded by more food stamp card sellers.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's breathing, so he's okay.

[Tanya Wu]

But community activist Tanya Wu says others come to Chinatown and take advantage of the system every day.

[Charlie Kirk]

We know what the cycle looks like. We know there's still folks who cannot take advantage of people who are addicted.

[Tanya Wu]

Creating an ecosystem of crime and chaos. Out of all the neighborhoods in the city, the CID consistently ranks in the top three for fights, shootings and drug deals.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're overwhelmed.

[Tanya Wu]

Wu says the Trump administration, along with state leaders, should use this downtime to find a better way to enforce food stamp fraud.

[Tiffany Justice]

We all want the same thing. We all want this to stop.

[Tanya Wu]

Which by some estimates cost taxpayers more than 10% billion per year versus on all that soda. If there is one silver lining to food stamps being cut, if you don't have EBT cards, Brandon, what are you going to do? Neighbors in this area say they've seen less illegal activity on the streets. You know that selling it's illegal, right?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. They just took EBT away.

[Tyler Boyer]

So now I couldn't even if I wanted to.

[Tanya Wu]

But Woo says it's only a matter of time before it all comes roaring back.

[Tiffany Justice]

There should be peasants here, constant presence.

[Tanya Wu]

But there are no officers here right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Tiffany Justice]

And we heard they were seeing the officers here. Fortunately, we know the police department is overwhelmed.

[Tanya Wu]

There are so many far left people who run the Democratic party in Washington, D.C. they just want to burn it down. They don't care if the troops don't get paid. They don't care if you cause billions of dollars in lost productivity. They don't care if you shut down the airline industry, which they were very close, close to doing. They just want to get Trump and they don't care if they have to burn the entire country down in order to get Trump.

[Charlie Kirk]

And they.

[Tanya Wu]

That's what they want to do. I don't understand the psychology of a Democrat who says we'd like to burn the country down in order to get Donald Trump, but unfortunately, it just drives home. That's what their party is about.

[Andrew Colvett]

I think some people might say Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Kirk's rhetoric was extreme. These kinds of words lead to violence, free speech.

[Tanya Wu]

I'm an absolute free speech guy. And you have the right to say these things. And you definitely also have the right not to get shot by sharing your views. To win the midterms, we're going to do everything that we can to win the midterms. And then after that, I'm going to sit down with the President, United States, and talk to him about it. We've got well over a year to do as much as we can for the American people. The question that I try to ask myself is what is good for the president, the administration, and the American people right now? That's what I have to be focused on. And I think so long as I do that again, politics will take care of itself.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show from every angle with the will to Deceive. Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still.

[Tyler Boyer]

Has the will to believe in the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. I'm Andrew Colvette joined by Mikey McCoy in the studio again. We get you, like, what is this the third time this week? Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

[Blake Neff]

You.

[Charlie Kirk]

I love it. It's great. Mikey McCoy. We also have Blake Neff. I think he is. Are we working today?

[Blake Neff]

Is it working?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's working.

[Blake Neff]

Excellent, excellent.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now, follow up question.

[Blake Neff]

The follow up question. Is it Mikey McCoy or Michael McCoy? Because he can only be one.

[Mikey McCoy]

I don't know what it is actually anymore, so.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's how it's gonna be.

[Blake Neff]

I'm just gonna rip if that's even your real name.

[Charlie Kirk]

There is a new conspiracy theory that Mikey's name is not Mikey.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, this is news to me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Question.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

What does it say on your birth Certificate?

[Mikey McCoy]

Michael Thomas McCoy and the real McCoy.

[Blake Neff]

You're adding a whole additional name here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thomas.

[Blake Neff]

You just. Yeah, it doesn't sound. You know, that sounds suspicious.

[Charlie Kirk]

My middle name is also Thomas.

[Mikey McCoy]

Is it really?

[Charlie Kirk]

Look at us. I always thought it was perfect because when I was becoming a Christian, I was like, I really struggled, so I didn't become a Christian till I was in college. I mean, I was born and baptized Catholic and all that stuff. And when I went to college, I became a Christian and I struggled with doubts, which I think is a really normal thing to do. And I always thought it was perfect because it was doubting Thomas. There you go. Yeah. Show me the wounds, Lord. Anyways, that was not where I planned to take this first part of the show at all. Anyways, Blake. Blake is. Blake is still on assignment traveling the eastern seaboard, so we're glad he could make it. And thanks to our friends at real America's Voice DC for making a home for Blake here today. I want to get into. I'm going to get into this idea that they are listening to you. I think there was a sense in the last couple weeks that the administration was messaging. Their messaging was off, that they weren't on point, they weren't focused. And I believe that we are seeing every single sign that you could ask for that they are listening Now. More needs to be done. I'm not. This is not, you know, success, moving on situation. But I want to hammer it home because now there is multiple pieces of evidence that we can glean from to show that there has been a messaging pivot, that they hear the concerns, the consternations, the anxieties of the base. The people that watch this show, the people that watch War Room before it, that listen to us on the radio, they are hearing you. And I think it's really, really important that we give credit where it's due. You can't just be a voice that is complaining all the time without offering solutions, without also giving praise where it's due. And so I just wanna say that. So we talked a lot about, and I went on Bannon's War Room yesterday. Charlie had given a six point, you know, checklist. It was a punch list of what we need to do to restore the social compact with Gen Z. And that included mass deportations. That included building 10 million homes, crushing the college cartel, ending H1B scam, ending diversity visas and lottery, and then also dramatically reducing legal immigration. Now, we're not on that one yet, but listen to this. So J.D. there it is. That's the tweet. So listen to this. JD Vance speaks with Sean Hannity. And listen to this and tell me if you don't, if you can't also confirm that they have in Fact got the memo.

[Tanya Wu]

353, a lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive. Why is that? Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought, by right, go to American citizens. And at the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with, even for the population that we had. So what we're doing is trying to make it easier to build houses, trying to make it easier to build factories and things like that so that people have good jobs. We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country. And you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what are those dividends that we're seeing? Blake, I want you to chime in here on this. Let's go ahead and show346. This is us rent prices are declining. We have three months in a row marking the steepest October decrease in 15 years. So you see that on the right side of your screen. For those watching on radio, listening on radio, on the right side of the screen, you see three months in a row where rent prices are decreasing. Now, Blake, this is not like, this is not huge. I think it's. What Is it down 0.31% month over month in October, but that's the steepest October decrease in 15 years. What do you make of this?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it's. Well, so it's, it's a decrease, it's in rentals, which I think, I think we're flagging is what have we complained about so much over the last few years? We've complained about illegal immigration, we've complained about too much immigration. And those people who are coming in, who are coming in as illegal immigrants, as guest workers, as low wage labor, they're typically going into the rental market. And so if we're seeing declines there, that's probably an indication that, you know, we recently had the news that the foreign born population of the US is actually falling for the first time basically in living memory. And that's going to have an impact on the housing market which has so consistently been able to count on just kind of an endless flood of new people from abroad. And if we can lower the constant demand pressure on housing, which we've seen drive up prices in Canada, in the UK in all a bunch of other countries will hopefully get lower rental prices and that will translate over time into lower prices for a normal entry level home. All of you know, housing kind of all flows together in terms of its impact on prices. And I think we're, we're seeing that now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And I think to your point, I think we've seen approximately 2 million, maybe slightly more deportations and self deportations. So we have, we are actually have less people in the continental US than we had at the beginning of Trump's presidency, which is huge. And that, that isn't despite the fact that we're still allowing for 1 to 1.2 million new green cards that are legal immigrants to the country every year. A number that I think should be at least slashed in half. If not a full moratorium. I would be totally down with a full moratorium. But it's not just, it's not just surging new homes where the admin is listening to us play 364 this is Harmeet Dhillon, Assistant Attorney General. She's in the civil rights office and she saw all of the chaos, all of the violence that came out of UC Berkeley. And I want to give her kudos here because she's actually taking the initiative and she's going after these thugs that targeted our Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley. Play Cut364 Antifa is a terrorist organization. The chapter here is called By Any means necessary. I've sued them and been involved with them as well.

[Tiffany Justice]

But there's also UC Berkeley is legally.

[Charlie Kirk]

On notice based on the prior litigation and the settlement about this exact type of event. And third, at the Civil Rights Division, we're in charge of how the police treat the citizens. And the police in Berkeley seem to think this is kind of a sport or a joke.

[Tiffany Justice]

Equal protection under the Constitution requires that.

[Charlie Kirk]

You treat citizens equally, including if you.

[Tiffany Justice]

Don'T agree with their viewpoints.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so at all three levels and.

[Tiffany Justice]

Maybe more, we have some serious problems.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we're going to be deeply engaged in illegal action here, I suspect very soon. And not only that, and you got to remember the gentleman that pulled the trigger and assassinated our friend Charlie Kirk had Bella chow and hay fascist catch on bullet casings that authorities collected. This is Antifa. These are Antifa slogans. This is this. You know, I'm not saying he was a card carrying member. I'm saying that these ideologies spread, they're decentralized. And go ahead and throw this up. This is 352Marco Rubio, State Department, Secretary of State has designated Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. And now we're going to bring in Andy Ngo, who is probably the most accomplished, longest running journalist in the space covering Antifa and all its different permutations and geographies. And he's going to explain why this is important from a legal standpoint. Because as you as he will explain, there is one thing to sign an executive order designating Antifa as a domestic terror organization. But this unlocks extraordinary legal powers when you're able to say, hey, they're a foreign terrorist organization as well. So across the board we've got more examples. We are seeing the admin take action on the things that we've been talking about on the show that you've been talking about and emailing us about freedomarliekirk.com we're going to read some of your emails today, so send them in and let us know what you're thinking. First, I want to tell you about Alan Jackson podcast, Culture and Christianity. The Alan Jackson Podcast. We love Alan Jackson. We love Pastor Alan. He brings a biblical perspective to every single episode and he goes into the most controversial topics about what's going on in the church. Abortion, gender confusion, the Trump White House, issues in the church that a lot of people don't want to talk about. And then he brings a guest that has a specific expertise and then they unpack biblical truths and principles about how we can make a difference as Christians and believers. The Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging. You can find on YouTube, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. And also if you want to find out more about Alan Jackson ministries. You can find them at alan jackson.com forward slash charlie. That's a L L E N jackson.com charlie. More on this when we get right back. Don't go anywhere. Stop watching the news and start making some the Charlie Kirk show. You know, we're talking about affordability, the affordability crisis, something that Charlie cared a lot about. And there is no better partner than to bring up than yrefi because if you have a private student loan that you cannot pay, that you are struggling to keep up with, that's stressing your budget, forcing you to not live within your means in other ways, then you need to get in touch with why refi.com they help you with distressed or defaulted private student loans that others will not even touch. And here's the key. They provide you with a custom loan payment that you can actually afford based on what your ability to pay. So they will work with you. They will look at your monthly budget, they'll look at your expenses, all that stuff, and they'll see what you can handle and they'll tailor your solution for your specific situation. So why refi. Refinance is distressed and defaulted private student loans, which are different from from federal student loans. Many clients aren't even able to make the minimum monthly payment on their private student loans when they first contact yrefi. They can help. So go to 888yrefi34. Give them a call, 888yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com that's yrefy.com Yrefy.com may not be available in all 50 states, but don't let that stop you. Give them a call and. And hopefully they can help you out. They are amazing patriots. We're going to welcome back radio in one second.

[Tiffany Justice]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Blake Neff, Mikey McCoy. Andrew Colvett. We got an email from Melissa. Michael, do you have. Do you still have that?

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is pretty good. I love it. I. I was actually like, yes, please.

[Mikey McCoy]

Stop calling Tyler Robinson, the gentleman who killed Charlie. Gentlemen. Come on, guys. He's a thug, murderer, and a sick, demented freak.

[Charlie Kirk]

My message to Melissa. Agreed, Noted.

[Mikey McCoy]

Noted.

[Charlie Kirk]

Agreed. Yes. Agreed. So the change will be made, absorbed, internalized. Thank you. The Blake. I want to get your reaction to a clip because again, you have to give credit where it's due when people are actually listening to you. We have to not only be a squeaky wheel that gets the grease, we have to say thank you. For listening. All right, this is Stephen Miller, who I think just absolutely nailed it. 375. We're focusing relentlessly on affordability. So President Trump's working to bring down the cost of living even more than he already has. So Thanksgiving meals are going to be 25% cheaper. But President Trump is not content with that. He is fighting to bring down the cost of every single consumer and household good. And the tax bill is going to be a huge part of this. Because when we make life more affordable for our companies, for domestic industry, for domestic manufacturing, with 100% expensing with the largest tax cuts in history, then prices are going to keep coming down. And proof, proof, Blake, I'll get your reaction. I've decided I Want to link two together. 368. Target is dropping prices ahead of the holidays.

[Andrew Colvett]

The company announcing reduced costs on 3,000.

[Blake Neff]

Food, beverage, and essential items starting this month.

[Charlie Kirk]

Target is also bringing back its Thanksgiving meal at its lowest price ever.

[Tiffany Justice]

The deal gives customers a complete dinner with all your holiday favorites for less.

[Andrew Colvett]

Than $5 per person.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, Blake, thoughts?

[Blake Neff]

So I don't want to overreact to a specific target. It's good. I'm glad they're doing it. But it's, it's one store. I think I'm more optimistic about seeing the fall in rental prices, which some people are saying, oh, that might be a concern, too. And you know, people have their leverage, you know, rental unit, whatever. But the point is, is like, what if people complain, they've complained, prices are high. So you want to look at the high level things. What do they spend the most on? The biggest expense for the vast majority of people is their housing. And right now, the cost to get a rental in the United States is going down everywhere in the country. In the long run, people will feel that the drop is actually not a lot. But, you know, we also have inflation. So if you're holding even, if the price of housing is holding even and inflation is going up a few percent a year, that's effectively like a 3% cut in the cost of housing. And people have seen it only go up for years and years on end, especially since COVID And I think we're seeing where once you stopped the endless flood of demand into the country, things are getting better, things are getting more affordable.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, Blake. I'm actually more interested in seeing rents drop, but then also how many homes we're building, interest rates dropping. The biggest win for the economy and for young people in general is just deportations. Two million plus deportations, self deportations. This has a direct impact on costs, going down, on rent, going down, on affordability just in general in the United States. But then also as a young couple, there's something about buying a house, being able to walk around your neighborhood safely with the, you know, back in your psyche, knowing that there's less illegals now, there's less criminals in this country now. But then also back to just Antifa. I want to really praise Harmeet Dhillon and also the FBI who put out the website for tips. At the same time as we're deporting all these illegals and criminals in our country, we want to find the active criminals that are part of Antifa and we're going to keep talking about that later in the show, but we want justice for that. And the administration is on point on multiple fronts with housing, deportations.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, think about it, think about it from this perspective. You know, about a year ago we were, our FBI was targeting us.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, Turning Point USA was getting spied on.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And now the FBI is putting out tip lines to target to find, you know, antifa thugs.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

That were attacking, assaulting and trying to disrupt our event in UC Berkeley.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah. And how fast they they came after the January Sixers. We're going to come after the real antifa criminals fast. We're going to find each and every one of you with geo tracking. If you spit on our attendees, if you attacked our attendees, like this is disgusting stuff that happened two months after Charlie's assassination at our event at Berkeley. This is, we're not going to stand for it. We're very upset and we want to see accountability and justice.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, Blake, just real quick, actually Danny on our team makes a good point that according to the polls, you know, you're right, rent is probably a larger bucket of cost for the average person. But from a pure polling standpoint, 378, you show this, it's bipartisan, that the number one issue for most people is inflation. Cost of living and that is cost of goods, groceries, gas. Those sorts of things tend to leave potentially a bigger emotional impact. So for what it's worth, Andy Ngo on Antifa next.

[Terrence Bates]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[Charlie Kirk]

This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, listen. Charlie built a thriving community through conversation and he did a lot of that on TikTok. Billions and billions of views on Tick Tock. It's not something that happened overnight. It happened over time. One connection at a time, one video at a time. Tick Tock offers opportunities for respectful exchange of ideas and through that community, not to talk over each other, but to talk with each other. On TikTok, you'll find creators who teach and encourage A carpenter passing on his craft, a mom explaining how to make a budget stretch, or a gardener showing us how to bring a backyard back to life. Different stories, same drive to the desire to connect and to understand. That's what makes a strong community, a common desire to connect. That's the power of TikTok. It gives everyone a seat at the table, a place to speak, to listen, to remind each other that we are all humans and that we need to connect conversations, build connections, and connections build communities. Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are sponsored in part by TikTok. I'm very excited about the next guest that we're gonna have on the show here, and that is Andy Ngo. He's a reporter for the Post Millennial. He's also the author of the book Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. And you can also check out his writings at no Comment, which I think is great. But it's ngocomment.com it's a substack. NGO comment.com Andy Ngo, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you, my friend.

[Andy Ngo]

Thank you so much for having me on.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's been a while. I haven't seen you for many moons now, Andy, but it's great to see you and great to have you. And you've been doing tremendous work covering. I mean, you've always done tremendous work covering Antifa. You've been one of the most fearless journalists about this. And you have a new piece where you're talking about this huge development where Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Trump administration have designated them as a foreign terrorist organization. And you have a great write up on the Post Millennial about this. Explain to our audience that might be a little unsure of why this is important versus the previous executive order that designated a domestic terror group.

[Andy Ngo]

Thank you for having me on. So when I spoke at the White House Roundtable on Antifa, one of the things that I suggested to the President and his cabinet that they could do is to look at the international networks and organizations within Antifa and to designate the applicable ones as FTOs, Foreign Terrorist Organizations. And why that's so important is because unlike the categorization of domestic terrorism, there's actually legislation in a legal category of a foreign terrorist organization. And the announcement from Secretary Rubio with Antifa OS and three other European based Antifa groups and networks being declared FTOs. These are now on the same category as ISIS, as Al Qaeda, and other proscribed terrorist groups that your listeners and viewers may have heard of. This is very different than when people in the administration talking about antifa being domestic terrorists. And the key difference is that there's actually no legal category in the US for domestic terrorism in terms of like, a group cannot be declared that way and then be banned. So the executive order describes antifa as such, but it's not like a Law that would ban providing support for antifa domestically or to have membership in a violent group that's within the antifa network. And that's because the First Amendment protections. I'm speaking to you from London now and in my travels in the UK and Europe, when I speak to liberals or leftists, they say, well how, how.

[Charlie Kirk]

Come.

[Andy Ngo]

The US hasn't banned the KKK or like neo Nazi groups? And the reason is the First Amendment has been interpreted through the courts to provide very wide protections for associations. But that doesn't mean that the executive orders and what the administration now is doing domestically doesn't matter. There's been very importantly at the federal level the DOJ was able to get two indictments against alleged members of an anti fascile in North Texas indicted on providing material support to terrorism. You see, so like that's where that focus that the administration has on anti fund terrorism matters rather than the label of domestic terrorists. But going back to fto, it's the first time in US history that the US government has declared any antifa associated group as being officially terrorists.

[Charlie Kirk]

So yeah, and you write in the post Millennial, you said the FTO label is not symbolic. It's a legal tool under US law enabling sanctions against individuals associated with the group's asset freezes, travel bans and criminal penalties for membership or providing material support. In short, it's how it's now a federal crime to belong to or assist the 4 violent Antifa anarchist groups that were labeled. And there's some in Greece, in Italy, in Germany that you, that you outline in there. Now I want to bring our attention back domestically though Andy, because at this UC Berkeley event I noticed that there, at least from the videos I saw, there wasn't many of these antifa thugs wearing black bloc. Right. It is intentionally decentralized. It is intentionally without hierarchy, at least, you know, on a spreadsheet in a, an org org chart. Right. So what, what is the way that these groups are organized domestically and they're going to, they're going to shift their tactics as the government attempts to crack down on them. Where do you see this going and what can you just explain to us about the hierarchy question?

[Andy Ngo]

So for the last five years within the organized militant antifa American groups such as Rose City, Antifa and other groups that are within the torch antifa network in cities like New York, Asheville, Philadelphia, they've moved more underground. You'll see that they have been posting a lot less on social media. When they have had a presence at direct actions, they no longer show the logos and symbols of their particular organization. And I think that's because they've seen in some jurisdictions there's been ongoing domestic terrorism investigations. Like in the state of Georgia where 61 people were indicted on domestic terrorism charges. There were, there was a cell in San Diego county where 12 members of SoCal Antifa were convicted either at trial or through plea deals. So they're trying to go underground and bunker down until there's a Democrat administration where they can come out. But whether or not they're underground, it doesn't mean they don't exist and they don't organize. And a lot of the terrorism that Antifa does involves people who are actually not going to their meetings or have not been through their particular cell vetting process. And that's the decentralized nature of a lot of terrorist groups actually internationally as well, in that they put out the ideology online or there are certain social media accounts that put out the propaganda. And the goal is to get fellow travelers, sympathizers or ideologues to go and do something, just show up, show up and commit violence. And I think that was seen in some part at what happened at UC Berkeley. And this is their playbook. They call the targets fascists and Nazis and use inflammatory rhetoric and lies and get a mob to show up and create an environment where people, their comrades are encouraged to commit assaults or intimidate or harass, or to rob their particular targets. And going back to the four groups that have been declared FTOs, I think it's important to talk about what they have done in Europe. These groups have not been proscribed because of ideology. And if people read my article piece or they look at what the State Department put out, one of the groups is Antifa ost, which translates to Antifa east in their Germany based Antifa group where their method of attack is to mob beat their targets with batons and hammers. And it goes specifically for breaking bones, smashing skulls open. Some of their, some of their members have been convicted of aggravated assault and attempted murder. Some of the other groups that were declared FTPs based in Italy and in Greece, have been involved in bombings and shootings, shootings of CEOs and bombings of police stations. So these are terrorist groups and yet we still see some leftists coming out, unsurprisingly to defend Antifa in the wake of this announcement from the State Department.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, looking at the FBI's definition for terrorism, it's the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce the government, civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives. So there. If it's the definition of terrorism, that's exactly what we saw at UC Berkeley. Charlie used to always say that people would hide their face when they secretly know that what they're doing is wrong. And so these people know that what they're doing is wrong. They secretly know that this is terrorism. But my question to you, Andy, is how are these people communicating with each other? They have a tendency to show up in mass, mass numbers. Who's secretly funding this stuff? How are they all getting funded? I just don't feel like we always get the answers to this. I'd love any insight that you have on that.

[Andy Ngo]

So the communications amongst the cells is primarily done through Signal. And we can know that by looking at what's come out at trials and in criminal indictments. Going back to the Texas terror attack on the ice facility in Alvarado on the 4th of July, they were able to get into the signal communications of the members of this North Texas antifa cell. And each one had aliases. And in the SoCal Antifa case in San Diego last year, when I went to trial, the evidence came, came out. Signal was also used. That is primarily the mode of communication. They use burner phones, aliases, obviously, and then they create ad hoc group chats for different purposes on Signal. Regarding the funding, there's always a nexus of registered nonprofits. And Azra Nomani has a good piece that came out two days ago on Fox News about one of the nonprofits that was involved in. In organizing the UC Berkeley Direct Action. But a lot of the funding is also through essentially what is just crowdfunding. The extreme far left are great at crowdfunding. They create GoFundMe, they have cash app handles, Venmo handles, PayPal even, and those types. So a lot of it is done in places that law enforcement can be, can track. And in my reporting and what I hope that the FBI starts paying attention to now that they have a directive from the executive that Antifa is domestic, are domestic terrorists, is to look into the sources of funding. We're not talking about dark money in crypto and things like that, although that may be part of it, for the most part, it's through people organizing these campaigns and sharing the links. You, you and your listeners and viewers are familiar with those huge fundraisers to raise bail money for buying suspects.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we're coming up against the hard break. I wish we had you for more time, but that's Andy. No Reporter for the Post, millennial author of Unmasked. And you can check him out at his substack. No comment. NGO comment. Thank you, Andy. No. So, so good to see you.

[Tyler Boyer]

Speaking the truth.

[Charlie Kirk]

No one else has the guts to say the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Got Blake Neff, Mikey McCoy here with us as well. I'm gonna play a, a, a piece from Charlie and actually there's. I see two, two numbers here. It's the video CK on why Antifa. Why he considers Antifa terrorists. That's 377. Let's play it.

[Andy Ngo]

Why do you call the protesters outside terrorists outside of, say, one broken window?

[Blake Neff]

Well, it's more than one broken window. Assaulting cops, spray painting, the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation.

[Charlie Kirk]

But that's not. Don't you think it's bigoted to call.

[Andy Ngo]

All protesters who are outside as terrorists?

[Blake Neff]

Why is it bigoted? They're mostly white liberals without jobs.

[Andy Ngo]

You're calling all protesters terrorists?

[Blake Neff]

I'm calling antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity, sending death threats to my family, smashing windows and spray painting the campus the entire week leading up to this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Terrorist.

[Blake Neff]

Yes, I absolutely stand by that.

[Charlie Kirk]

A lot of them are just college students who don't agree with the point.

[Andy Ngo]

Of view that you're propagating.

[Blake Neff]

Maybe they should have come to the front of the line and asked a question like you and not acted like.

[Charlie Kirk]

Somebody in a third, in a third.

[Blake Neff]

World country where they settle their differences with gang violence.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, feel free.

[Blake Neff]

He was just so great. And it just, it disgusts me that these parasites are just like. It just scusts me that these parasites in antifa like are basically free in any blue city to roam around and terrorize people. And like, it feels trite. And yet the truth is they're basically a modern KKK in the truest sense. Look up what the original KKK did. They were basically a menacing group. They would go around, they would intimidate people, terrorize them. We have a bill, we have the Ku Klux Klan Act. And what it's designed to do is it's designed to go after groups that intimidate people who want to vote, who want to use their freedom of speech. And instead, like we had it used against, they, I think they used it against Frickin Douglas Mackey because he made a meme that Hillary Clinton didn't like. Why don't we use it against antifa? They're a terrorist group to suppress freedom of speech. They should be treated that way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well said.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're gonna welcome back radio in about five seconds. Stay right. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to get to a piece of news here, Blake and Mikey, where we talked about Epstein yesterday. And it's been this really beautiful thing to watch because there was an allegation that Jeffrey Epstein said he spent Thanksgiving with President Trump in 2017, which, by the way, I think he was kicked out of Mar a Lago in 2007, declared a child predator in 2009. And yet, you know, Bill Clinton and all these types kept hanging out with him. Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, all these types. Larry Summers, apparently there's a bunch of people that still hung out with him. As far as we know, Trump was not one of them. Okay. But there's been volley after volley trying to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein. And this House Oversight, Democrat, House Oversight Committee, they, they leaked these, these emails trying to. Trying to do it. Now they're deleting them, which is just so rich. So put up image 366. This was from the Democrats, literally the. The X account. The Democrats says new documents show Donald Trump spent Thanksgiving with Jeffrey Epstein in 2017. At the time, Trump was already President Epstein, already a convicted sex offender. Well, they deleted that. And, and it's not just the Democrats handle it. CNN is backtracking as well. Play cut three, 357.

[Andrew Colvett]

And we do want to be clear, the President Trump did not receive or send any of the messages which largely predated his time as president. He's not been accused of any criminal wrongdoing in connection with Epstein or Maxwell.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, so, so that is legalese, by the way. You know, somebody from corporate was like, please say the following and read this. Ve.

[Mikey McCoy]

This is so great. And then, and then you have people going back and finding Melania Trump's tweet. Yeah, we're at Thanksgiving.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have this put up 3, 384. So, yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

So good.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So this is President Trump, Melania says, thrilled to spend part of our Thanksgiving with the local Coast Guard station in Florida. Thank you all. Thank you to all the members of the military who keep us safe. Happy Thanksgiving 2017. And here you got Jeffrey Epstein, a known liar, convicted liar, saying, oh, yeah, don't worry, I spent Thanksgiving with Trump. Go ahead.

[Blake Neff]

Well, it just, it blows my mind. I don't even think he really said it. If you look at the exchange, it's just like, where are you? He says, a place and he's like, who else is there, and he kind of rattles off some names. And so it's sort of like bigger picture. Other people are there, but it's also just. The entire thing is so stupid to go through your head that as President of the United States, Donald Trump would be, like, able to go anywhere in the United States on a holiday like Thanksgiving, where his every movement is very closely tracked. Everyone knows where he is. There's all these rituals that the President does on Thanksgiving. And then he would secretly hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. It's just. It's. There's a word I get in trouble when I use on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's.

[Blake Neff]

It's really stupid. It's really stupid.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just. I just think it's amazing that time after time after time. So what. I mean, let's track the provenance of this. Of this whole debate that we're having. So Joe Biden was president for four years.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

We didn't hear a peep about Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump becomes president, and the base of the Republican Party starts getting very interested in trying to expose a child predator.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And, you know, there's some. There's some back and forth. Let's just say there's a little bit of a row on the right when it comes to what to do with these docs and the base wanting more. It's only then that the Democrats are like, maybe we can hop on here. We're gonna get involved in this. So then James Comer, a Republican, subpoenas the Epstein estate to get these emails. They come during a government shutdown. They don't coordinate a leak or anything like that. What? They're a release of it. They leak three very suspicious, highly selective emails out of a trove of 20,000.

[Tanya Wu]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And every single one of them has basically been debunked.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ridiculed. And they have had egg on their face completely as a result of this, including the fact that they. They redacted the name of Virginia Guthrey, who testified under oath that President Trump did nothing wrong and then had. And by the way, we played a clip yesterday of a woman talking virgin that Virginia Guthrey wanted President Trump to be elected because of the transparency with the Jeffrey Epstein case. And that was actually her biographer. Apparently, it was a representative for her. So this whole thing has blown up in their face. They were trying to distract from the shutdown, which they got nothing except throwing the country into chaos. And now they have egg on their face.

[Mikey McCoy]

And this is like their fifth time around, the Epstein. Like the fifth time that it's amounted to nothing, but they just kind of bring it up again.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're gluttons for punishment.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

They got nothing.

[Mikey McCoy]

Nothing new under Blake.

[Charlie Kirk]

Take us home. 20 seconds.

[Blake Neff]

It's just the whole thing has become this. It's like a parody unto itself because I actually feel bad. People have pointed out in the emails where we should, we should pause, we should dial back because we're laughing here. But we should remember this is a bad guy who hurt a lot of people. And in D.C. there's just a lot of people who've decided it only matters in the sense of how they can hurt one specific guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well said. Our two ask us anything coming up. We'll be right back, folks. The per.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break.

[Blake Neff]

Welcome back.

[Terrence Bates]

I'm Terrence Bates. As many of you know, Americans are facing enormous financial pressure these days. Credit card debt, for instance, in this country has surged past $1 billion, actually $1 trillion. And interest rates are some of the highest that we've ever seen. As a result, many families are finding themselves drowning in monthly payments. They just can't seem to escape. Joining me now to talk about it and some real solutions is Melanie Picor. She is a consumer for finance advocate. And I kind of at iconic Debt Relief. So good to see you.

[Tiffany Justice]

You as well. It's such a pleasure to be here. Thank you.

[Terrence Bates]

Absolutely. So when you're talking about people dealing with debt, obviously there's the debt part of it, the practical part, but there's also the emotional toll that it takes on people.

[Tiffany Justice]

Yeah. It's really, really, really very, very sad and scary. And I can even say from experience it's just the amount of stress levels that it brings. And you don't even realize it does until it's finally you find a solution for it. But I mean, it can cause issues between parents and kids, even though the kids didn't do it. Right. It can cause issues between yourself and your spouse. I mean, you go to bed just thinking about it over and over and over again. It's very sad. Yeah.

[Terrence Bates]

And that's where iconic debt relief can come in. Talk about the various services you guys offer in order to help people dig themselves out from underneath what typically is a, a mountain of debt already.

[Tiffany Justice]

Oh, you said it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Tiffany Justice]

A mountain of debt. And it just keeps piling. Right. Because due to inflation and credit card interest, it's how do you get out of it? But it's really quite simple. You know, we are here to hear your story. Number one, we want to make sure you understand we are not a bank. We are not here to give you another predatory loan to put you further into debt. Right. We are advocates. We'll walk you through the process and just understanding your financials and your goals to really make sure that we're finding the right legitimate, protected program for you to reach those goals and get rid of that stress and that emotional toll that this debt is putting on so many of us Americans.

[Terrence Bates]

What are some of the options out there? Give us an example of an option that someone who may be in this situation and listen to this interview now saying, okay, can they really help me? What are some of the options?

[Tiffany Justice]

Well, most of the options will include lowering your payment and consolidating it. Right. But one, and my favorite option, truly, because it gives. Gives you the most amount of freedom and it puts you on a different track financially for truly the rest of your life. And again, I can say that by experience, but it would be our program where we legitimately will cut your debt down to about half. Right. We're going to help stop the bleeding of that compounding interest on top of interest on top of interest, and essentially get you that monthly freedom as well, where you're lowering that payment to an affordable amount, where you feel like you can finally start saving for the next unexpected cost. Because, Terrence, we know they're coming, right? There's just no doubt that we're going to have an unexpected cost. Right. And so we'll really just walk you through that and help you understand, like, hey, this is based off of what you have left at the end of the month, which in so many cases, sadly, is zero. We need to cut your payment somewhere. And we know we can't cut it on your fixed living costs. Right? So that would be my favorite program.

[Terrence Bates]

Okay. You've said on a couple of occasions. So I'd be remiss if I didn't follow up that you kind of have personal experience that you've dealt with this. Have you worked specifically with iconic debt relief yourself? And tell us about your experience.

[Tiffany Justice]

My experience is like so many I've spoken to, right? It's, you're doing fine, you're doing fine. And then all of a sudden you get hit with something you never saw coming. For instance, losing a job or for instance, we moved across the country thinking we had so much from the sale of a home to really just feel steady and be able to survive that way. But on top of the move, on top of not having the funds that we thought we were going to have, my Husband also lost his job, all within a matter of two months. Terrence. It was unbelievable. We have two little kids, and it was. And I still remember, like, the move when we got here was I was getting mad at my kids for no reason. It wasn't their fault. But that's part of the emotions, right? Like, you're so stressed out. You're just like, you kind of blow up on them and, of course, apologize. Our, our marriage was on the line. Everything was insane until I found out about this through a letter in the mail. And I'm like, I might as well check it out.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right?

[Terrence Bates]

And. And she did. And obviously the rest, as they say, is history. The information is there on your screen if you're interested, folks. Go ahead, log on, call that number and at least start the process.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome to hour two of the Charlie Kirk show. And it is Friday. So this is the day and the hour that we take your questions in our ask Us anything in honor of the great Charlie Kirk, who did this every Friday in hour two. And so you can do that. If you want to join us at members.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk. com, become a monthly supporter of the show and of the team, help keep the lights on. And you also get a lot of great perks, one of which is you get to call in on Fridays and ask questions live on the show. But first, we have a little bit of housekeeping because we have a very special guest that joined us in. And yet you, too, Tyler. Tyler Boyer has joined us.

[Tyler Boyer]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

But you have brought a very special guest with us. So why don't you introduce Tiffany for us?

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. We have the head of everything political over at Heritage, Heritage Action. So those of you that know Heritage foundation, probably one of the longest standing brands within the conservative movement, that was loved beloved by President Reagan. That was beloved by Rush Limbaugh. That obviously is now they have action. Great partner. They've had action for many, many years. But the new leader is Tiffany justice, who is here with us on campus today. And we're just working through all of the things. So welcome, Tiffany. We're excited to have you on the Charlie Crick Show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Tiffany is also famous for being the co founder of Moms for liberty, which.

[Tyler Boyer]

You'Ve SPLC's worst nightmare.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, you got the hate group. You got the hate group.

[Tyler Boyer]

Moms are so hateful when you don't clean your room and you don't vacuum. Yeah. You don't take out the trash. You don't eat what you're supposed to. But I don't think that's what the SPLC meant.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, they messed with the wrong moms.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, that's right. So she's the co founder, tons of the brains. And she was brought over to lead Heritage Action into really a new. A new era. I don't know if you just want to talk about that just for a second with. With Kevin Roberts, who's a brilliant doctor. Kevin Roberts, who's a brilliant man over Heritage. We love them to death. And Tiffany now really muscle.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Really excited to join Heritage and to inspired by the work that you guys do at Turning Point Action. Right. A lot of federal lobbying that Heritage Action has done, some state lobbying that they've done since 2019, but really expanding the portfolio now and making sure that we're getting out the vote. Americans want to be empowered to take our country back. So excited to kind of emulate some of what Turning Point Action has done across the country at Heritage Action.

[Tyler Boyer]

And that's what's really critical is everyone has to be focused on. Nothing will matter, nothing will get done if we don't get out the vote and actually win, as we saw last Tuesday when we had some dramatic losses because not enough GOTV was done on our side. And in specific states where we don't necessarily operate full time, but those are places that need a lot of help. So, yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

Blown away by the amount of money that Democrats spent in the House of delegate races in Virginia, like 68 million to Republicans, 25. So something has to change, and Heritage Action is going to help to try to change it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow. And a lot of people, like, on a very basic level, I think our audience would get this. But, you know, if you're kind of a normie, you're just out there. You're not really political. Understanding the difference between a C3 and like a C4, for example, Turning Point USA C3. So a lot of people will just say Turning Point usa, assuming that it. It covers all the. All the bases. But Turning Point Action is where we do our ballot chasing. It's where we do our scorecards, where we endorse candidates. It's completely different and separ from Turning Point usa.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I mean, I would say about Heritage and Foundation in Action, I think of the Heritage foundation as like the chef that makes a beautiful meal. All these amazing policies that they write over at Heritage Foundation. But if you don't have power, if you're not winning elections and that's how you get power, then you can't put any of the policies into place so they're really strategic partners.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Tyler Boyer]

Power is everything.

[Andrew Colvett]

Power is everything.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have a first question, I believe. This is from Brandon. Brandon, you are joining the Charlie Kirk Show. Welcome. Hey, guys, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Thanks for joining. What's your question? Well, I'm back with another book question. It's mainly for Blake, but I don't know if he's still on. But I'm here.

[Blake Neff]

I'm here. You got me.

[Mikey McCoy]

You got me.

[Blake Neff]

So my question is, what books or authors do you recommend to learn about the Revolutionary War and the period from 1776 to 1789, so before we actually.

[Tanya Wu]

Have a first president.

[Blake Neff]

Alrighty.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, man.

[Blake Neff]

Well, so first of all, you should never discount, like, the actual legit primary sources for that sort of thing. So, like, it's actually worthwhile to go and read Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson. He wrote a lot of letters. He wrote notes on the state of Virginia. Like, you hear a lot of things about the founders and yet they are real people. They were engaged in war, they were engaged in politics, they had feuds with one another that are now easily forgotten about, and yet that's the lives they lived. The Federalist Papers, of course, which were to ratify the Constitution, but there was letters they were writing beforehand. So I always encourage that. I also encourage knowing what went into the revolution. I've advocated for Albion's seat on this show before. That's kind of about the different groups of people who settled America in the colonial period from England. They were very different groups and they shaped America for the revolution itself. One that I liked, it came out around 1990 and it was the radicalism of the American Revolution. And obviously, as conservatives, we like the revolution, yet we also have to admit it is like it was a very radical. It was a revolution. It basically toppled the monarchical government. It installed the first major kind of. You know, Charlie hates the word democracy, but we founded democratic ish governments in a lot of these states and that hadn't been seen in the west for 2000 years. Hugely transformative event. And there was stuff going on during the revolution where they were just, you know, you'd overthrow your royal governor and have this super radical state constitution, which now these constitution would seem conservative to us if we still have them. But for the time, hugely, hugely. I'm looking at my list here. Radical documents. Another thing just for the war itself, Empire of Liberty was like, I think the either Oxford or Cambridge History of the United States. It's a whole big series. But their Book on the American Revolution is like a just decent one on the actual revolutionary period. I think the Glorious Cause is also their book about the rebel. The war itself. That's solid if you're a big Tory. Some people really like. There's like old extremely conservative books that argue the revolution was a mistake and the loyalists should have won. I do not believe that I disavow and I can't remember them off the top of my head anyway. But I would be remiss if I, if I left them out. So I hope that helps a little bit.

[Tyler Boyer]

Blake, can I add in too? I think one of the things, and we talk about this all the time, I actually talked about this with Charlie a lot behind closed doors was that there isn't enough education around the anti Federalist papers. So one of the things that I would say that is a huge mistake when that conservatives make is they. There's a lot of books written about the Federalist Papers. There's a lot of books that comment on the Federalist Papers. The authors, many heroes of the revolution. There are many heroes that were the writers behind the names in the anti Federalist Papers. There's not actually a ton of books written on commentary in the anti Federalist Papers. But they really shape what the arguments for and against which. There are many good arguments that were made about the mistakes and potential pitfalls of a federal government that were made by the anti Federalists at that time. And they're not really complicated. Although there's some simplified versions of books that say here's a simplified way to explain the arguments that are made in the anti Federalist papers, especially Patrick Henry and so on. I cannot encourage enough, especially young people to also study anti Federalist literature, especially in private schools, charter schools, public school teachers that are teaching, they just gloss over or they don't even comment on any of these things at all. And there's a lot of really important subjects that are in there that are discussed that frame a lot of the problems that we see today.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake, just.

[Blake Neff]

I have one, I just got remembered. I just remembered one that was very funny because you mentioned the anti Federalist. There's a book, it's a bit later than the era you're asking about, but I like it. It's called Fears of a Setting sun, the Disillusionment of America's Founders. And it's just, it's an interesting one to read because if you read it, it turns out if you look at the founders in 1805, they're all black pilled. They think it was a total disaster. What they'd done messed up, they're super depressed, they think it's not going to work out. That's some great perspective to have because these great men who we know, they founded this tremendous country that had so much success, they were black pilled, they let themselves get black pilled. And so if they, you know, if their country got through that era where they thought it was so terrible, we can get through periods that we think are terrible too. So I wanted to throw that there. That's a great question. I loved that one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, really good question. Really. And by the way, Chernow, David McCullough, those are authors on the Revolutionary war period that are widely read as well. I really quickly want to tell you about Patriot Mobile. Our good friends over at Patriot Mobile, Glenn and the team, they do phenomenal work. I have them on my phone. I actually have two networks. I have the dual sim. I highly recommend that because sometimes you get service with one and not the other. But more than that, they are amazing people that share our values. They support causes like Turning Point usa, like this show and so many others. They're great, great people. For more than 12 years Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines fighting for our God given rights and freedoms. And they provide excellent nationwide cell phone service with access to all three main networks. Switching is easier than ever. Activate in 10 minutes from the comfort of your own home. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Upgrade. Today Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you. So here's what you do. You call 972-patriot972patriot or go to patriotmobile.com Charlie. Use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. Patriot mobile.com Charlie we'll be right back.

[Tyler Boyer]

We will not comply.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake Neff]

Sarah, unmute yourself, Sarah.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Should we read it? I remember, I remember.

[Blake Neff]

I think we know her question.

[Charlie Kirk]

We do know her question.

[Blake Neff]

So we'll read it because we'll see if any of you guys have thoughts on this. But I know I do. What is your opinion on the Conservative Party of Canada?

[Mikey McCoy]

Oh, I think I hear her.

[Blake Neff]

There we go.

[Tanya Wu]

There we go.

[Tiffany Justice]

Here we go.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, Sarah. Awesome.

[Tiffany Justice]

All right. I do not know what happened to my microphone on my earbuds here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Happens. I've been there.

[Tyler Boyer]

Give us your question.

[Charlie Kirk]

What's your question, Sarah?

[Tiffany Justice]

All right. Okay. So I am from Canada and my first question, I have two. What is your guys opinion of the Conservative Party of Canada?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so there's two. Let's just define terms here really quick here. Right. There's the Conservative Party of Canada, cpc, which would be Pierre's party. I forget I looked it up. How to say it? Pierre Polyvair or whatever. Poliev. That's right. He would be the leader of that party. That's going to be your more establishment wing of the Conservative Party in Canada. Right. So then you also have the People's Party of Canada, which is the more populous wing. So when we're saying What's. Are you asking about one or the other or just in general?

[Tyler Boyer]

The Conservative Party?

[Tiffany Justice]

Yeah, yeah. I'm specifically asking about like the official cpc.

[Charlie Kirk]

Cpc.

[Andy Ngo]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

So Tyler has actually been working with them.

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, I've talked to a number of individuals and there's some just like we have and just for our Americans that are at home, just like we have some good Republicans. There are good Republicans and there are bad Republicans and the party's broad based, you know, there's some good Conservatives Conservative Party leaders and, and better Conservative Party leaders that we see across Canada that I think are leaning more towards the things that we like. You know, I can't speak highly enough of Danielle Smith, although I'm sure Canadians have, you know, different varying opinions. I mean Danielle Smith I think actually cares enough so much that she has been in contact the Premier of Alberta, which to put into kind of con conceptually is kind of like all encompassing senator for slash governor almost for Canada for their individual areas. And so they. She has been an incredible supporter of what we do at turning point and has been at the forefront of having conversations to represent I think the more conservative wing from an elected position. And I know that there are a great number of individuals who have engaged with the Conservative Party in Saskatchewan that have done a great job. And I think those two nation states within Canada, Alberta and Saskatchewan are the future. And I think that the Conservative Party, my opinion is this, is that if the Conservative Party were smart, they would consolidate their efforts into those two areas and then spend time with the conservative activists to grow from there and really wield power as we talk about power against the establishment to try to actually expand their talking points that I think are more successful, which again, Canada combated the complete shutdown of their country during COVID It was like the worst parts of the United States just to put perspective. And I'm sure you have some opinions on that, Sarah. And there's a number of other different things that obviously happen at the governmental level, the policy level that are terrible that most of the resource driven individuals that live in this, in the central parts of Canada disagree with, particularly on the, on the oil in the oil basin that exists within Alberta.

[Charlie Kirk]

They have a lot of oil by the way, in Canada. I would say this like first of all, the establishment wing of conservative parties right now, they're pesky, they have a way of sticking around, they have a lot of institutional backing, but they do.

[Tyler Boyer]

Deals with the bad guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

They do deals with the bad guys. And here's the other thing I would say to any conservative movement we're to going across the Western world is if you are not tapping into the populist energy of your party, you're gonna miss the boat. That's where the activist energy is. That's where. Sarah, I'm sure that you probably find yourself more about a strong nation, probably limited immigration. Those are the taproots of energy when it comes to conservative activists. And if you're not going there because you're afraid that it's, you know, the country's not ready for it, I would just say look at France, look at what do we've got, the Netherlands. Look at the uk. What's happening in the UK right now? The UK is so buttoned up, it makes Canada look like a third world backwater or something. I mean, that's just the way the UK is. And yet Nigel Farage and reform is rising in the polling, rising in the ranks, and Canada needs to follow that, not be afraid. The Conservative movement needs be to, to embrace the populist energy. That's happening because you're either gonna go populist left or populist right. Right now, the whole entire western world is either gonna go one way or the other. If you are shunning that side of your party, icing them out, you're gonna miss the activist energy. You really are. We gotta take a quick break. We're gonna go through the breaks for stream and podcast. Don't go anywhere.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Too many people from foster care community end up homeless, in danger on America's streets. It was 2021 when I developed idea to establish an impactful platform with an important mission to provide individuals from the foster care community the ability to secure an entry level job position and in turn, financial independence.

[Terrence Bates]

President Trump says under this new initiative, American companies and institutions will sign pledges to in teaching, training and mentoring America's youth. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Tanya Wu]

The next great awakening is here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, history, economic, the great works of literature. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. But even if you did, it's probably time for a refresher course. Let the good folks at Hillsdale College help you out. They are offering more than 40 free online courses. 40? Charlie took 31, right, Mikey? Yep, 31. He got through 31 of those 40 courses, which is a commitment.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, no, no, no. He did the 31 when there was only 31. He did all of them.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Tyler Boyer]

It's never.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, it's never finalized.

[Mikey McCoy]

There's more coming.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's more coming. And you invite girls Convible. We did. Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

We did invite them, and they're supposed to come last year, too, but it didn't.

[Charlie Kirk]

I noticed that.

[Andy Ngo]

Yeah, I remember.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, it didn't work out logistically, but, yeah, we did invite them.

[Tyler Boyer]

There's some big speakers yet to be announced that I think that will make people very excited.

[Mikey McCoy]

We're always working on speakers, too. Up to, like.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, up until the, like.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yes.

[Mikey McCoy]

I think last year with President Trump, Charlie booked him, like, a couple days. Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

A lot.

[Tyler Boyer]

A lot.

[Tanya Wu]

His schedule is crazy.

[Mikey McCoy]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

A lot revolves around the president. And then sometimes these things are last minute, sometimes they're intentionally last minute. But there is a. I think a number of different people that will be very interesting. And we're sold out, so it's just like people are now buying the market.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, good.

[Mikey McCoy]

I'm glad you're here.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, I got them. There was only 2% left available when I got them, and I was very pleased to get them. Oh, man.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, we're looking forward to meeting you in person.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, thank you, Jonathan. We'll see you at amfest, and definitely.

[Tyler Boyer]

And if you ride a horse to amfest, then we'll let you in.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ride a horse. It's very. It's very Western. Hi, how are you? Hi, Ann. What's your question?

[Tiffany Justice]

First, I wanted to say how great.

[Charlie Kirk]

You guys are doing, and I'm really.

[Tiffany Justice]

Happy that you're continuing the show. I know how tough it must be.

[Charlie Kirk]

Because it's hard for all of us who are fans for a long time. Charlie, what I'm concerned about is I've.

[Tiffany Justice]

Been noticing this week and you've talked.

[Charlie Kirk]

About it, I've heard it on other.

[Tiffany Justice]

Podcasts, that there are some things that I think are fair to say that the White House has been making missteps with the base and the younger viewers in particular.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I think that really shows Charlie's.

[Tiffany Justice]

Absence because I feel like he would have had some influence on it and.

[Charlie Kirk]

He could have conveyed the base, you know, kind of the way he did with the Epstein thing. He could have conveyed the basis position.

[Tiffany Justice]

And perhaps been listened to. And I'm wondering what TPUSA feels that.

[Charlie Kirk]

It can do without Shirley and what it is doing to continue his influence.

[Tiffany Justice]

With the White House and Congress to explain what, you know, what the base.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the younger voters want. And I'm Also wondering who USA feels.

[Tiffany Justice]

It has and who the government has to speak to. The youth voted successfully convey that to the government.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

Can we play clip 353 again of J.D. vance? We certainly can, 353, because this helps answer that question. If we can play 353.

[Tanya Wu]

A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive. Why is that? Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought, by right, go to American citizens. And at the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with, even for the population that we had. So what we're doing is trying to make it easier to build houses, trying to make it easier to build factories and things like that, that so that people have good jobs. We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country, and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.

[Mikey McCoy]

So, Anne, love your question, because it also is my question every single week is what can the administration do for young people now that Charlie's gone? Because Charlie is our biggest advocate. And I think JD Vance has been kind of the mouthpiece for that in honoring Charlie, both in that interview that he just did. But also looking back to Ole Miss just a couple of weeks ago with, you know, Vice President Vance and Erica Kirk, too. And at Turning Point, we're continuing the work. But the biggest thing, and Charlie said this all the time, we talked about an hour one of today's show is the biggest thing to help young people in the short term is deportations to drive H1B.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

And so JD Vance understood everything that Charlie stood for when it came to young people. And I think he's doing a pretty incredible job.

[Charlie Kirk]

JD Stepped up in a huge way to be that. And I think a lot of people. We had Chris Ruffo on last week who was saying that JD Is basically the guy that can really do that. He can sort of unite some of these warring factions within the conservative movement. But don't, I would say this also remember that President Trump, time and time again, when he has, he'll send up little trial balloons, right? And he'll kind of float ideas. And you Never know what 3D chess he's playing, for example, with with the Chinese thing that a lot of people got riled up about. 600,000 Chinese visas. I would be one of them. However, two days later, Kash Patel says, oh, we've just struck a deal with the Chinese Communist Party to stop all these precursors to fentanyl coming in the country, which by the way if you really care about young people, you want to make sure that 100,000 young people every year aren't dying of fentanyl overdoses. And so you got to. I really do believe that we have to trust a couple things here. And Charlie would have said the same thing. He said the same thing. We were bombing Iran. Right. He said, I trust President Trump. I believe that he's got the best interest at heart of the United States and for our people. And that includes young people. But he's got a lot of competing interests. So we have to keep yelling and screaming and making our voices heard. And I just wanna tell you one last thing. Here is a lot of those relationships that Charlie was so good at within the admin, within the conservative movement, working and talking to and texting and all this back channeling stuff that was happen. I will just tell you that a lot of those people, when Charlie was assassinated, they ended up coming to a lot of us. And I know Tyler's in comms with a bunch of them, Mikey's in comms, I'm in comms, Erica's in comms. And so those relationships remain intact in some really important ways. And we're certainly still making our voices heard. And we're still making sure that the things that Charlie was fighting for, this Gen Z economic moonshot, this revival for the. The economics of young people, making sure that they have a stake in the American dream. Those conversations are still going. And one last thing. When you talk about deportations, all this stuff, you gotta understand we are climbing out of a hole that's very, very deep. And why? Because we flooded our economy with cheap money. We deficit spent for a generation. And when you do that, it debases the currency. It inflates asset prices like homes, stocks, 401ks. And that's good for economic incumbents, people that already have skin in the game. It's really bad for people trying to get into the economy as a first rung on that economic ladder.

[Blake Neff]

So you say we deficit spent for a generation, Andrew, like we're not still.

[Charlie Kirk]

Deficits spending like crazy. It's a fair point. And that's a fair point. And that's another debate that we're having on the right, correct, Blake, that, you know, what are we doing with some of this tariff revenue? Yeah, some $2,000 dividend check would be great. But we really do have to focus on this debt and this deficits. And there's the budget hawks in D.C. are getting drowned out right now.

[Blake Neff]

It doesn't buy you, you Basically, I worry truthfully that we're kind of getting into more and more of a like delusional state on it. Like it didn't blow up in our face as quickly as people predicted. And so you have a lot of people who say deficits don't matter. I think Cheney said that. Now you have modern monetary theory, which is a somewhat. Well, it's very modern. We can say that, that you can just print money forever and there's actually no downside to it. All I will say is there are many countries that have attempted that and I don't know of any that have gotten away with it.

[Tyler Boyer]

So. And I want to remind everyone too, I don't know if we've done a good enough job of this. I don't know if the administration has done enough of this. And they need help. Right. They need all of our help to say, remember when we were coming into this Trump administration that the word on the street was that, that we were heading into a massive recession, the biggest one since, you know, the Obama recession. And that that was going to happen and the entire economy was going to crash, that the stock market was going to crash. Remember all this that was happening at the beginning of year last, last year. And we have to give credit where credit's due is that the Trump administration stabilized that situation. And of course, we still have massive problems for young people on how affordability is going to look for the next two decades. The question you have to ask yourself is Trump, are you going to trust the Trump administration, turn into maybe a J.D. vance administration to fix that? Are you going to trust more of the Joe Biden style policies and Gavin Newsom and Mamdani to do that for you? Because the answer is going to be no. We just have to make that pitch very well.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have a new clip here, apparently. Three, let's see here. I'm seeing two clips. Three, 83, 87 or 388.

[Mikey McCoy]

387.

[Tanya Wu]

The White House wants to cut a bunch of red tape, especially the kind that holds up houses from being built.

[Charlie Kirk]

With the argument being that the current housing inventory has been flooded for several years with illegal immigrants, immigrants. New houses plus deportations could free up a lot of existing homes and apartments.

[Tanya Wu]

According to Vice President Vance.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Mikey McCoy]

That's from this morning.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, new report this morning. So I think, I think we're getting there. The message is getting through. I mean, I'm telling you, this was a pivot from a messaging standpoint that was pretty dramatic. Wouldn't you agree, Tiffany?

[Tiffany Justice]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

And I just want to say the most important thing that we can do for young people in America is to empower them to vote and to get their friends to vote. I mean, you know, and to run for office. Right. I mean, that is truly how long term we're gonna be able to have better policies for the future of families in America.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, you gotta vote. Gotta get out and vote. Thank you so much, Ann. Next up is Gina, I believe. Yeah, Gina, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question? Thank you, guys.

[Tiffany Justice]

Just wondering what your thoughts are on. I've seen lately them talking about the USS Liberty. And I was just curious what your some of your feedback is on some of that history.

[Tyler Boyer]

I can talk about that.

[Blake Neff]

I can talk about that.

[Tiffany Justice]

Thanks.

[Blake Neff]

If you haven't heard about it, the USS Liberty was an incident in the late 1960s where it was a kind of US like spy ship, sort of a signal monitoring ship. It would sit in international waters and it would monitor communications. And we'll probably have to continue into the break on this. People ask about this all the time. And during the Six Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors, it was near Israel and Egypt monitoring the situation and it gets attacked by Israeli fighter jets. It's strafed and I think it's hit by a few bombs or torpedoes. And about 30, I think 34 US sailors actually are killed, several hundred are wounded now. That's a good number. But it's also it's during the Vietnam War. So it's, you know, when we're having a lot of military casualties and it's brought up a lot today. Charlie, notably, he would get trolled with attacks or not attacks with questions about the USS Liberty from gripers around 2019. And he would get a lot of questions about it. And I'm just, it's complicated. So we have 15 seconds here. I'll continue this once we get into the commercial break.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we'll keep going.

[Blake Neff]

That does deserve a real answer.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we'll keep going in the commercial break to continue answering Gina's question. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.

[Blake Neff]

Frankly, anti Semitism and it's brought up for that reason, but there's like a rational way to understand this event as a tragedy, as likely an accident, likely appalling military incompetence. And fortunately they did pay compensation to the people affected by that. That's my overall thoughts on it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you, Blake. Did you have something to add, Tiffany?

[Andrew Colvett]

No, I think it was an interesting question. I guess I would ask why the question was Asked in the question.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I didn't realize people were talking about it. Again, I've definitely heard other people bring it up throughout the years. I will say one interesting thing is that Dennis Prager actually wrote a letter and he was kind of going through some of the claims made about Israel and I think he was trying to kind of deal with it in a very rational way. And so this was a letter that he wrote before he got injured in October 2024. And he basically explained that his position had changed. He mentions that terrible mistakes happen in every war. And initially he thought the Liberty attack might have been another one of those mistakes. However, he is now, quote, persuaded that the strike on the Liberty was probably deliberate. He states in that letter that the attack, quote, if everything said about the attack on the Liberty is true, it appears to him have been a criminal war crime. And he expressed frustration that he doesn't understand why both the American and Israeli governments covered it up at the time and have never since explained why it happened. Now, that POV differs from a lot of the official narratives, but that's coming from Dennis Prager, who is a. Is about as Jewish as it gets. It was a dear friend of Charlie. And so I'm just saying, to Blake's other point, you know, it was 60 years ago. Why does it have to be a guiding light about how we conduct ourselves now? And if even Dennis Brager, who is, you know, like I said, card carrying Jewish guy, written the books of the Torah, the five books of the Torah I think he's writing his fifth commentary on, even now from being bedridden. We love Dennis. So I mean if he's willing to sort of, you know, reassesses his, the way he feels about that story, then I'm not afraid to certainly. So I keep an open mind. But again, 60 years ago, and I think people use it as a for.

[Blake Neff]

Ulterior, it got brought up a lot in part because people would get uncomfortable when they were asked about it or they weren't familiar with it. And so it became kind of a meme for that reason.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, got a welcome back radio. One second. All right.

[Terrence Bates]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Ask us anything. Final segment of the day. Avery. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Tanya Wu]

Hey guys. Great honor to speak to you today.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you, sir.

[Tanya Wu]

Appreciate all you do. Can't, can't even begin to imagine what the challenges have been like. I have to think it's much like the disciples questioning God's timing when Jesus left them and yet they picked up the ball built on the foundation, and here we are 2000 years later with millions and billions in the kingdom of God because of what they did. And you guys are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you. So thank you.

[Tanya Wu]

I wanted to ask, I. I know this election last week because I, I don't think you can really take that much from it, but to some extent, it is obviously a little discouraging.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm.

[Tanya Wu]

I'm one that wants us to win everything, so.

[Andrew Colvett]

Me too.

[Tanya Wu]

I don't want to give. I don't want to give an inch, but. So we've got 2026 coming up and TP USA and TP USA action, in my opinion, gave us the win for 2024. I know others have played a vital role, but what you guys did, Tyler, and was just incredible. What I, What I need to hear today is some encouragement that there's a. A good plan being put in place to hopefully maybe mobilize this tremendous army with all of the new TPUSA chapters and, yeah, everything else that is going to give us a victory that we desperately have to have for 2026. Otherwise MAGA and Trump is going to.

[Tyler Boyer]

Have.

[Tanya Wu]

A lame duck those last two years and we can't afford that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you want to address Avery's concerns?

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. So, Avery, first off, thank you for that and thank you for the support, I mean, obviously for the entire audience, that the power behind the Charlie Kirk show was that we were able to mobilize tens of thousands of people, really hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions if you look at our TikTok and everything else, to help change the narrative, change the game for 2024. Completely agree with you. Actually. That's why we're so excited that Tiffany's here with us on campus. I mean, I can literally showcase to you the work that we're doing right now, not just for 2026, but 2028, 2030, 2032 is we're talking about everything 10 years out, working our way backwards, working with the biggest and most impactful organizations across the country to be able to put the boots on the ground where we need them in the right places. And this is the biggest problem. The challenge that we've talked about, Charlie talked about this incessantly, and we will start talking about this a lot more this year now that we're. The clock is ticking through 2026 is we're going to be talking about, just the same way that Charlie was talking about all last year, of how the right has not done a good enough job at organizing bodies and putting people where we need them most impactfully, start to finish across the country. And so the thing that we've been discussing all morning, and I will be into the late evening here as we work with Tiffany, is that we have a place to go and strategic targets that matter the most. And I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that, Tiffany, about kind of the focus is and bringing people together.

[Tiffany Justice]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm just so excited to work with Turning Point Action. I think you're right that Turning Point was a huge. Was the factor that helped us to win in 24 and help President. Put President Trump in the White House. And so at Heritage Action, as I said, we do a lot of federal work, a lot of state work. We're focusing on political action. We're focusing on acquiring power and working with Turning Point and other organizations in order to mobilize voters, get them out. And we're looking for the lions.

[Tyler Boyer]

Paper in the box.

[Andrew Colvett]

Paper in the box.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can I just make an observation? When we started in this space, and Tyler can attest, it was like dog eat dog. They didn't want us getting in, invading their terrain. They were worried about donors, all stuff. So to have Heritage Action and Turning Point Action cooperating on this is just like such a huge advancement in the space. I just want to give you guys both credit for that.

[Andrew Colvett]

And what I've seen, just from my limited time in politics, from a mom of four, so I'm in it for the right reasons, is the fact that there are a lot of people, people that get involved and suck money out of the ecosphere of politics. We're here to invest in the American people and making sure that we're getting, as Tyler says all the time, more paper into the ballot box.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. And that's the one piece that is probably most impactful, is that if we can just by 2 or 3 or 4 percentage points make the conservative movement more impactful, with every dollar that's spent and get that out to GeoTV, get out the vote operations, chasing ballots, then you win.

[Charlie Kirk]

Significant.

[Tyler Boyer]

I mean, we're not talking 3 or 4% more elections. We're talking about 30 or 40% more elections.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we got to wrap it up there because we're coming up at the end of the show. Blake Ness, let's do one more. Okay. Okay. In the stream. Fine. To radio, to real America's Voice, we say goodbye. We'll see you on Monday. Thanks so much. We'll take one more in the break.

[Andrew Colvett]

This is an I Heart podcast.