The Charlie Kirk Show, November 17, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — November 17, 2025 (Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts)

Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show (hosted by executive producer Andrew Colvitt, with co-host and producer Blake Neff, and featuring guests including Kevin Hassett and Libby Emmons) centers on the crisis of the American Dream for Gen Z, especially around homeownership, marriage, and affordability. The show dives into current events (including the aftermath and ideological profile of Trump’s would-be assassin, Thomas Crooks), analyzes social trends among young Americans—especially young women—and explores policy debates on issues ranging from property taxes to housing market reform. The episode maintains a fast-paced, straight-talking tone, blending commentary, audience engagement, and in-depth policy discussions, all with a right-populist, anti-establishment flavor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gen Z’s Disconnection from the American Dream

• The percentage of young Americans who want to leave the country is growing—especially among women (40% of women aged 15-44 per Gallup).
• Homeownership and marriage rates for young people have "fallen off a cliff".
• Social and policy factors (affordability, culture wars, radicalism, mental health) are driving a crisis in traditional American life milestones.

Memorable Quotes:

• “What happened under the Biden administration to so radicalize young people?” — Andrew Colvitt [02:00]
• “If you have a generation that does not own stuff, then all of a sudden radicalization seeps in.” — Kevin Hassett [92:20]

Timestamps:

• [02:44] — Discussion on falling marriage/homeownership rates.
• [03:02] — Young women’s growing desire to leave the U.S.
• [42:11] — Charts and polls illustrating the collapse in young women’s marital ambitions.

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2. Digital Forensics: The Thomas Crooks Case

• New revelations about Thomas Matthew Crooks (attempted Trump assassin): online activity links him to “furry fetish” and transgender ideology, contradicting earlier claims by the FBI of "no digital trail."
• Ideological shifts documented: from rabidly pro-Trump, anti-immigrant posts to major anti-Trump, anti-government rhetoric around COVID.
• The blurred lines between mental instability, internet subcultures, and political violence in young adults.

Memorable Quotes:

• “He did an ideological backflip … from rabidly pro-Trump to rabidly anti-Trump, and then he went dark.” — Andrew Colvitt [15:18]
• “A lot of people who become violent assassins or terrorists are all over the map ideologically.” — Blake Neff [15:45]

Timestamps:

• [10:01] — Andrew & Blake dive deep into new findings about Crooks.
• [14:06] — Explanation of DeviantArt and the significance of Crooks’ online activity.

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3. Transgender Ideology, Mental Health, and Political Violence

• Discussion of the alleged overrepresentation of individuals identifying as transgender or non-binary among recent high-profile mass shootings and assassination attempts.
• Show’s perspective: these subcultures can "unmoor" unstable individuals from reality and morality, leading to higher risk of violence.
• Emphasis on social contagion, mental illness, and the interplay of drugs, hormones, and rhetoric.

Memorable Quotes:

• “The trans or gender confused community may be the most terrorism-prone community in the country.” — Andrew Colvitt [19:00]
• “A whole sub-community constantly tells unstable people: ‘There’s genocide against you. Act!’” — Blake Neff [24:36]

Timestamps:

• [22:16] — List of recent violent incidents involving trans/nonbinary perpetrators.
• [24:01] — Analysis of psychological contagion and extreme rhetoric.

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4. Economic Policy & Affordability Crisis

With Kevin Hassett (National Economic Council) [31:58–51:32]

• Post-pandemic affordability challenges: “Bidenflation,” elevated grocery & housing costs, doubled mortgage payments.
• Trump Administration response: deficit reduction, targeted tax incentives, deregulation, “supply-side shock.”
• Analysis: Declining marriage rates as a major force driving falling homeownership.
• Regulatory burdens, federal interventions (Obamacare, college loans) are critiqued for worsening cost and quality.

Notable Segments:

• [33:24] — Hassett explains how inflation/grocery price hikes happened and the challenge of “reversing, not just slowing” them.
• [37:37] — Marriage rates’ collapse cited as key driver in homeownership decline.

Memorable Quotes:

• “The way we reverse this situation is to continue to go after every little thing to reduce inflation.” — Kevin Hassett [35:24]
• “Throw government money at stuff … get worse deals for the American citizen.” — Hassett on Obamacare & higher ed [39:42]

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5. Women, Happiness, and the “Liberal Girlboss” Crisis

Guest: Libby Emmons (Post Millennial, Human Events) [57:00–74:52]

• Explores why so many young women are dissatisfied, want to leave the U.S., and are “least likely to be completely satisfied with life” (only 12% of liberal women).
• The contradiction: society has opened doors for women, but fulfillment is elusive as careers, independence, and material goods don’t substitute for traditional roles (motherhood, marriage).
• Cultural relativism, social media, medicalization of womanhood, and emasculation of men are discussed as factors undermining happiness.

Memorable Quotes:

• "These women are out of their minds. … We owe it to our kids to let them know America is a great place to live." — Libby Emmons [58:07]
• “American women are the dog that caught the car. … Turns out having a career isn’t as satisfying as being a mom.” — Libby Emmons [61:59]
• “Weak men make unhappy women. … Male feminists are not what a lady wants to marry.” — Emmons [66:27]

Timestamps:

• [58:07] — Libby’s reaction to data on young women wanting to emigrate.
• [64:16] — Atlantic’s “Marriage Effect” study challenged.
• [73:30] — “Why is every man I’m attracted to a Republican?” (clip discussed).

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6. Housing Policy & the American Dream

Guest: HUD Secretary Scott Turner [79:31–90:23]

• Focus on the housing affordability crisis for young Americans and Gen Z.
• Criticism of Biden-era immigration and regulatory policies as driving up costs and reducing supply.
• Importance of single-family homes for wealth-building and family formation, but also the need for multifamily and rental options for early career Americans.
• Data: U.S. needs 7 million additional housing units; HUD working to deregulate, stimulate supply, increase FHA-backed loans for first-time buyers.

Memorable Quotes:

• “Owning a home is the single most powerful way to build equity and generational wealth.” — Scott Turner [85:35]
• “We have to tear down the regulatory environment in order to unleash development and creativity.” — Turner [80:47]

Timestamps:

• [80:47] — Turner outlines plan to address the housing crisis.
• [83:03] — Blake presents data on declining housing construction.
• [87:58] — Progress on FHA-backed loans for first-time buyers.

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7. Property Taxes: Debate & Reform

• Ron DeSantis’ proposal to abolish (or reduce) property taxes, especially benefiting seniors who’ve paid off homes.
• Blake Neff counters: property taxes are key for funding communal services and the elderly are already the wealthiest generation.
• The case for land value tax as a more productive/reform-oriented alternative.

Memorable Quotes:

• “You never really own your house. … You have to pay rent to the government to enjoy your property—that’s wrong.” — Ron DeSantis (clip) [94:11]
• “Abolishing property taxes would be a windfall for the already wealthy. … We pay for more than just our own kids.” — Blake Neff [95:53]

Timestamps:

• [91:39] — Segment introduction (property taxes, DeSantis’ proposal).
• [92:11] — Charlie Kirk (clip): on homeownership and social stability.
• [94:11] — Gov. DeSantis’ argument.
• [95:52] — Debate on intergenerational equity, land tax alternative.

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Notable Quotes, Moments & Their Timestamps

• "The trans or gender confused community may be the most terrorism-prone community in the country."
  — Andrew Colvitt [19:00]

• “If you have a generation that does not own stuff, then radicalization seeps in.”
  — Kevin Hassett [92:20]

• "These women are out of their minds ... We owe it to our kids to let them know America is a great place to live."
  — Libby Emmons [58:07]

• “Weak men make unhappy women. … Male feminists are not what a lady wants to marry.”
  — Libby Emmons [66:27]

• “Owning a home is the single most powerful way to build equity and generational wealth.”
  — Scott Turner [85:35]

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Structure of the Episode

| Timestamp | Segment | Speakers | Description | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | [02:00] | Gen Z’s radicalization, marriage/homeowner data | Andrew, Kevin, Blake, Scott| Breakdown of social trends under Biden | | [10:01] | Thomas Crooks digital forensics & ideology | Andrew, Blake | Analysis of new revelations, FBI narratives | | [14:06] | DeviantArt/furry/profiles; ideological fluidity | Andrew, Blake | Evolution of the suspect's views, Internet subculture deep-dive | | [19:00] | Trans/nonbinary & violence; ideological unmooring | Andrew, Blake | Violence statistics/patterns, psychological analysis | | [31:58] | Economic policy and affordability w/ Kevin Hassett | Andrew, Kevin, Blake | Inflation, housing market, college loans, healthcare | | [57:00] | Women’s happiness, satisfaction, and cultural lies | Andrew, Libby, Blake | Careerism, motherhood marriage, liberal vs conservative women | | [79:31] | Housing policy w/ Scott Turner | Andrew, Scott, Blake | Affordability, supply, deregulation, FHA loans, family formation | | [91:39] | Property tax debate, DeSantis proposal | Andrew, Blake | Elderly wealth, land tax alternative, policy debate |

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Final Thoughts

• Underlying Themes: Radical generational change, loss of old social compacts, consequences of government overreach, and cultural/psychological dislocation.
• Policy Recommendations: Deregulation, increased housing supply, restoring “conservatizing” life events, targeted financial/climate incentives.
• Critique of Mainstream Narratives: The show persistently challenges left-leaning media and government accounts, promotes American exceptionalism, and highlights what hosts believe to be the harmful impacts of progressive and globalist policy trends.

If you missed the episode, this summary gives you a comprehensive walkthrough of the key ideas, debates, data, and tone.

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For further context, quotes, or clarification on any section, refer to the provided timestamps.

Transcript

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[Kevin Hassett]

Sent it to me and it was.

[Andrew Colvitt]

The percentage of Americans who are married and own a home has fallen off a cliff. This is according to a new Gallup poll. 20% of people say they want to live somewhere else.

[Kevin Hassett]

That's one in five.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And the shift is mainly driven by young women ages 15 to 44.

[Kevin Hassett]

40% of them say that they want to go.

[Andrew Colvitt]

The other thing is that it doesn't ask, are you going to leave? It just says what you know. Basically, it's like at a cocktail party.

[Libby Evans]

Would you say, I really want to get out of here, I really want.

[Andrew Colvitt]

To leave the country.

[Libby Evans]

But they're not actually leaving the country. So it's just, no, no, no complaining.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And there's a lot of Trump derangements.

[Kevin Hassett]

They all want to be Emily in Paris.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.

[Blake Neff]

Three quarters of his patients in New.

[Andrew Colvitt]

York have symptoms and he is calling it the defining pathology of our time. What's the prescription? Just take two aspirin and call me in 2028. Well, psychotherapy, prayer, asking your family to make you sane again. Maybe we should consider A, an ICD10 billing code. Medicare for people with Trump Derangement Syndrome. You know, it is such a pathological process. You can have a rational discussion. You and I, we've had plenty of people come into our lives we disagree with. I'm fine with that. But at least have a rational and thoughtful conversation about what's really going down.

[Kevin Hassett]

There is not an easy path to saving the democracy. There is not a path that doesn't involve some pain. We will have to find unique ways, as the civil rights movement did, to mitigate the pain for people.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But there's no simple, pain free path.

[Kevin Hassett]

To saving our democracy.

[Scott Turner]

I listen in the Judiciary Committee to a lot of my colleagues across the aisle rail with just the most righteous.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Indignation about the horrible weaponization of the.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Justice Department under that well known partisan, Merrick Garland. And it is so fanciful as to be absurd, but they speak it with what appears to be total conviction. And I don't know, maybe they're better.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Actors than they used to be, or.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Maybe they've so internalized the talking points.

[Scott Turner]

That they persuaded themselves.

[Kevin Hassett]

I think we are going to see a substantial acceleration in the economy in the first second quarter, the increase in real incomes. I think Americans are going to feel it. I think 2026, thanks to President Trump's signature plans, is going to be a great year for working Americans. For the markets, I call it parallel prosperity. Main street and Wall street can both do great, but I think Main street is going to have a great year in 2026.

[Scott Turner]

We have to take an inventory. What is the regulatory environment? How is it impacting building? And then make the healthy, hard decisions to unleash innovative building and creativity. Because we have builders and developers in our country that are ready to build, that have great strategies, great plans and capital has to be easier to obtain, regulatory environment has to come down. And so I think a combination of those will help us to spur development of affordable housing.

[Blake Neff]

President and his team want to put a difficult start to November behind them with a blizzard of policy and PR announcements designed to help Americans with the cost of living. So what are those announcements going to be? More deals with pharmaceutical companies to bring down drug prices, Efforts to address those, Higher mortgage rates? Try to change the housing market, reducing tariffs, as you guys mentioned, a number of products as well as a possible $2,000 rebate check for some taxpayers.

[Andrew Colvitt]

This is the lowest the Supreme Court has been rated and if you believe as I do that we need faith and not just the executive of the congressional branch of government, the Supreme Court and it is not written anywhere in the Constitution. You have to have nine the Supreme Court does not serve the law. It serves the interests of the Republican Party and corporate America and everybody knows that. And I think it would be a.

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Good idea to return some balance.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I really do happen to the Democrats. Why did they lose so many young men? Generally they were very anti normal guts.

[Blake Neff]

The white guy and this sounds but.

[Kevin Hassett]

Was the bad guy became the bad.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Guy and there's a lot of you know, white dudes who are like well.

[Kevin Hassett]

I'm not the bad guy. Like what are you getting mad at me for? I wasn't here for colonialism or any.

[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Libby Evans]

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[Andrew Colvitt]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Happy Monday. I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this fine show. Joined as always. Well, not as always. Hit and miss. Joined as often, as often as humanly possible. That would be Blake Neff, our not so secret weapon and co host. Here we are now, just a huge breaking story this morning if you are a fan of the Charlie Kirk show because it ties in. And that is of course, a new report from New York Post. It would be Miranda Devine. She's actually gonna be joining us tomorrow to discuss this in more detail. But breaking new account linked to Thomas Matthew Crooks shows a furry fetish and transgender ideology interest at least referred to himself as they them. And obviously Thomas Matthew Crooks is the attempted assassin of President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania who had no, we were told.

[Blake Neff]

No digital trail whatsoever. He's the only person under 30 in entirety of America who had nothing about him online.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But now we're finding out that there is more to it. Now this corresponds certainly with some of the reporting that Tucker Carlson has recently done, although this they Them and furry fetish is new. And I think while why this is so eye raising is simply because of what happened to Charlie, the alleged assassin of the monster who killed Charlie also had a furry fetish. And allegedly. Allegedly. And had a. A boyfriend that was trans. There certainly seems to be some of the similar ideologies that are circulating between the two instances.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, let's. Let's lay it out here. So last week, Tucker released a video which just dived into the Thomas Crooks case. As you guys probably remember, the FBI began looking into it and essentially said, there's no manifesto. We don't have an obvious motive for what this was. And he seems to have very little online trail, and they kind of left it there. There's been repeated efforts by Congress to get more information. It hasn't really led to many places. And so what Tucker was able to do is they found, they kind of did standard forensic work. It wasn't a leak. They got a private investigator and he used tools that they had. They knew one of his email addresses, and then they found accounts linked to that email address. And then they were able to use Internet Archive pages and a few other things. And they found some traces of his online presence. Certainly not.

[Andrew Colvitt]

They found traces in 19 different profiles.

[Blake Neff]

The main thing they had, though, was.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I mean, I'm not saying that they were extensive footprints in any of these.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But to find 19.

[Blake Neff]

But the main thing they just had was just YouTube comments, which is pretty low tier of Internet engagement. So he had the Internet comments which showed he was making threats. They signaled that when he was pretty young. This is. All this ends in 2020, when he's 16 years old. And some of it's earlier than that. But he was saying pretty violent rhetoric, threatening rhetoric, actually, against immigrants and stuff. So the FBI had framed it. Oh, he might have kind of been right wing, motivated by anti immigrant stuff. What they found was he'd started to turn around Covid, where he seemed to actually be very against Trump's handling of COVID He seemed to be extremely angry about people who wouldn't mask up or people who wouldn't like follow lockdowns, or so it seemed. It's not totally clear, but he was suddenly changing ideologically, which is of course really annoying because then the trail goes cold. Now, what happened there? We're not sure. It could be he started registering for new accounts with a new email we don't know of. There's sites you can use like 10 minute mail to sign up for websites with a throwaway email that no one will ever link to you. There's a lot of stuff that you can do. Now today we have the New York Post which essentially did the same thing Tucker did, but with the added caveat that they found his DeviantArt account. Do you know what DeviantArt is?

[Andrew Colvitt]

I do know what deviant. Do you know what DeviantArt is out there on, in the, in the audience? Send us your thoughts Freedom and Charlie.

[Blake Neff]

Send us your best deviant art.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So but here's, here's, here's, let me, before we get to that point right there, there is a, there is a, an issue here. So because on July 13, 2024 FBI Director Chris Wray told Congress that the bureau had found nothing in crooks online history. Okay. That pointed to motive or political ideology. A week later, Wray's deputy Paul Abate, and I'm reading from Miranda's report here, Paul Abate told Congress that comments posted on one of crooks social media accounts appear to reflect anti Semitic and anti immigration themes to espouse political violence. So but here's the problem that this left out a huge chunk of the timeline. Right. Where it seems to indicate a pivot from what you would consider, I guess, right. More right leaning ideology, I guess because of the immigration stuff to anti Trump rhetoric, anti government rhetoric. So it was an omission. It left an entire section out from January to August 2020 when he did ideological backflip and went from rabidly pro Trump to rapidly anti Trump. And then he went dark, seemingly never to post again. Now that's a huge, huge question.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. Now like in August 2020, one of his last things that we had was in my opinion the only way to fight the gov is with terrorism style attacks. Sneak a bomb into an essential building and set it off before anyone sees you, track down any important people, politicians, military leaders, etc. And try to assassinate them. He said that and he, it seems, you know, the truth is a lot of people who become violent assassins or terrorists often are all over the map. And that's why it's so frustrating. It goes cold in 2020 because 16 to 20, if you're already an unstable guy is going to be an absolute rocket ship of potential ideological changes. I know someone, there was a guy I knew in high school, not even an extremist. I shouldn't say he was not a violent guy, but I knew a guy who, when he was a sophomore in high school, he was an Ayn Rand fan, objectivist. And then by the time I was, he was a freshman in College. He was a full, like Lenin, did nothing wrong, communist. And then for a while his ideology was whatever gets us to space fastest. And last time I checked, he was a MAGA supporter. So some people just whip all over the place when they're young adults. And obviously this guy was very unstable to your point.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So on July 20, 2019, he said the literal Trump is the literal definition of patriotism. So that's 2019. And then. So but by early 2020, Crooks, he had flipped 180, became very critical of Trump, Fox News and Republican complaints about mail in voting. So he said, keep in mind, the only reason we know about any of this, this was a comment in 1.23.20. So this is from what I say, July 20, 2019 to January 23, 2020. So that's basically six months and he's, he starts going after President Trump, calling him Trump stupidity. So that's a six month window. Yeah, he seems to.

[Blake Neff]

People swerve. I mean, it was Covid, of course, that drove people nuts.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But then.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, so the thing we specifically have.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And then he describes, by the way, he described Trump as racist. Yeah, well, no, but that's interesting. He went from anti immigrant screeds about killing immigrants to describing Trump as racist.

[Blake Neff]

But anyway, what we have from the New York Post this morning, in addition to that, which they kind of reaffirmed, what was on Tucker's segment is they found the DeviantArt account and they say, and I'm very frustrated with this because they say he appears to have been interested in, quote, furries and exploring gender identity first. Apparently he used the pronouns they them as his default on DeviantArt. And also they say it had an obsession with scantily clad cartoon characters that had muscle bound male bodies and female heads.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And certainly that's like a sub genre.

[Blake Neff]

There's a lot of sub genres of it. And I'm annoyed because, okay, they say that and you'd want to know how much of there is that, because if they look at one that's different from if they look at 100 or a thousand or 10,000, and you know, it might be sort of disturbing. So you'd want to maybe censor parts of it for normal people. But I suspect a lot of people are going to want to know what, what the heck are we talking about here? Because as we'll get into in the next segment, if he was really deep down that rabbit hole, he's going down a rabbit hole. A lot of other people who eventually become violent in the last couple of years have Gone down.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, and that's, that's exactly it. We, I mean the trans or gender confused community may be the most terror terrorist prone, terrorism prone community in the country. Just, it's totally possible. I don't have the exact stats but man, there's a lot of anecdotal evidence. I want to tell you really quickly about Done With Debt. When you're buried in credit card and loan debt, it's human nature to put it off and say I'll deal with it later. But if that's you, here's a hidden fact that the debt strategy experts at Done With Debt shared with me. They've discovered a strategy that works in your favor to dramatically reduce or even erase your debt altogether. They aggressively engage everyone you owe money to and they do it right now, this fall. And here's why. They know which lenders and credit card companies are doing year end accounting and need to cut deals. They know which ones have year end audits and need to get your debt completely off their books. That means you need to get started with Done With Debt now, right now, this fall. Done With Debt accomplishes without bankruptcy or new loans. You should have more money in your pocket the first month. Get started now. Go to donewithdebt.com and talk with one of their specialists for free. Visit donewithdebt.com that is donewithdebt.com we'll be right back with more. Stop watching the news and start making some the Charlie Kirk Show. Did you know that private student loan debt in the United states totals about $300 billion B billion with a B, about 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. So I want to tell you guys the solution if you find yourself in that, that position with a distressed or defaulted private student loan, you got to check out why refi? Why refi.com they help refinance these loans that other people won't touch. Okay? They provide you with a custom loan payment and that really is the key here. It's going to be custom to your ability to pay. So they're going to tailor a solution to your specific needs and they don't even care what your credit score is. These are patriots. They're good people. They support this show, they support Turning Point usa, other causes just like it. And they will work with you within your means. They'll even let you skip a payment every six months up to 12 times without penalty. So I don't even know who else would do that for you. But why Refi will because they want to make sure that you can afford getting yourself out of this hole, out of this debt. So listen, you got to take control of your own financial system situation. Go to 888 y refi34, give them a call. 888 y refi34 or log into yrefi.com. that's y r e f y dot com. We're going to welcome back national radio in two seconds. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So here's. Here's the deal, Blake. I mean, and Benny did a good job of putting these together. And you could add to his list the Brett Kavanaugh potential assassin.

[Blake Neff]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So you got Charlie Kirk's assassin, Tyler Robinson, had a furry obsession and lived with transgender boyfriend. Okay, there' the alleged assassin there. Annunciation Catholic Church. Shooter identified as trans. Nashville Christian. Shooter, identified as trans. I was a female to male.

[Blake Neff]

Yep.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Lakewood Church. Shooter identified as trans. Colorado Spring. Shooter identified as non binary. Denver. Shooter, identified as trans. Aberdeen Shooter identified as trans. Iowa High school shooter, trans activist. So you've got Annunciations, Robin Westman, Nashville, Audrey Hale Lake. So these are some of these famous names you had the Brett Kavanaugh attempted assassin went by Sophie Raska.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, that's happened after the attack, I believe. Correct.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I'm not sure on the timing.

[Blake Neff]

I think on that one, Danny will.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Find out for us here.

[Blake Neff]

I mean, they were probably a little.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Odd, I mean, I was gonna say. But what is. What's really disconcerting here is that it seems to be something where you have unstable people that get into an ideology that basically unmoors them from reality. And what I believe happens. Now I'm not a psychologist, but it seems to fit that when you become unmoored from your physical God given attributes or believe that you can become disassociated with them in some way, that you become unmoored from morality, good and evil, right and wrong, these binaries that bind humanity and societies together. And if you have an unstable proclivity, then guess what's going to happen. You're going to be tapped into a whole ideology that basically says up is not up, down is not down, right is not wrong.

[Blake Neff]

It's potentially a few things. And we should caveat, of course. It's all like it's kind of this wave of them is pretty new. It's emerging transgenderism wave in general is pretty recent. It exploded really just in the past 10 years. And it's among young people. So you're looking. We're really just having people aging into their late teens, early 20s, who are really blasted by this psychological contagion. You know, when. Yeah, the social contagion when they were in middle school age, you know, early high school age. Now these people are aging into where they're old enough, they're autonomous enough to really potentially do things. And it's as you say, it's like there's a bit of the denial of reality. I think another thing is if you're, if you've been exposed to these communities, you know, they can be very out there, very unhinged. They're very indulging of like extreme wild rhetoric. So if you hear, I mean, for example, I saw when people were reacting to Charlie's death, I routinely saw people with, you know, LGBT flag, trans flags be like, Charlie Kirk wanted me dead. Charlie Kirk wanted everyone like me dead. They really indulge a lot of that hysterical rhetoric. So there's an entire sub community of people who are not mentally well in the first place that is also constantly feeding them. There's are people who want to commit genocide against you. There are people who specifically want to kill you. They are a threat to you. And it's like you, an unstable person should think that this person is a full genocidal Nazi and will like kill you if you don't do something about it. So it's feeding unstable people the justification for extreme acts of violence.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, a thousand percent agree with that. And you put on top of that, Blake, a lot of drug use, whether that's simple things like vaping THC all the time or harder drugs or the hormonal replacement drugs or testosterone replacement.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, if you read. So again, this is, this is background, but if you look into someone's been posting claims he's been getting like discord messages and such, that he was in the discord group group that Charlie's alleged shooter was in, and he's been saying that his, his boyfriend was like on tons of drugs all of the time. Yeah, really heavy stuff. And you know, it's all speculative how much that actually affected everyone else. But it's just, there's a lot of. Well, I mean, just think about what we're doing. You're taking people who are unwell, pumping them potentially full of hormones, pumping them full of other drugs. None of these have remotely been studied for how they intersect with each other. There's a total unwillingness to take. Take that question seriously, especially during peak woke. And you know, you're just. It's like taking a bunch of random chemicals and putting them in a jar and shaking it as hard as you can and then throwing it somewhere.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, absolutely. And we don't know the ramifications long term for a lot of this stuff. But let's go ahead and I saw this image go up, but let's throw it up again. 89. This is 7.2% of US adults identify as LGBT. But look at those red graphs on the right. That's 19.7% of Gen Z in 2022. So presumably that number would be higher now. Although we have seen a reversal of some of these trends just because we've been actually winning fighting and winning cultural battles. You get this. Let's go to image. I'm not sure which one this is here. 90 this is Gallup poll. Okay, so nearly 4 in 10 young liberal women identify as LGBT. Okay, so that's that. That big huge graph right there. 18 to 29 year old liberal women is almost, is it 38% identify as LGBT. So we talk about the social contagion of it all. That's what we're talking about because it far outpaces any other generation. We'll be right back with Kevin Hassett from the National Economic Council. We'll be right back.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Andrew Colvitt]

The next great awakening is here. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

All right.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to tell you about one of our partners, and then we're going to bring in Kevin Hassett, who's a great guest. Charlie loved having him on the show. And by the way, Charlie also built a thriving community online through conversation. It's not something that happened overnight, but it happens over time, one conversation at a time, one connection. TikTok offers opportunities for resources, respectful exchange of ideas, and that is where opportunities are built for community and for connecting with other people. That may. You may not imagine that you'd be connected to in any other context, but TikTok makes that possible. You'll find creators who teach and encourage. A carpenter passing on his craft, a mom explaining how to make a budget stretch, or a gardener showing us how to bring a backyard back to life. Different story stories, same drive. The desire to connect and to understand. That's what makes a strong community, a common desire to connect, to find a way forward through respectful dialogue, building trust and feeling heard. A place to speak, to listen, and to remind each other what connection looks like. Conversations build connections, and connections build communities. Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are sponsored in part by TikTok. And before we bring our next guest in, I want to play cut 107 as a little preview.

[Kevin Hassett]

The purchasing power dropped by about $3,000 under Joe Biden because the wages didn't keep up with prices. Under President Trump, it's already gone up by about 1200. We understand that people still feel the pain of the high prices, but we're closing the gap, filling the gap fast.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I don't want to. All right. I'm excited to welcome Kevin Hassett the man in that clip. Director of the National Economic Council of the United States. Welcome to the show, sir. Honored to have you back again. Back.

[Kevin Hassett]

Yeah, it's great to be back.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It's great to have you. And we, you know, I used to talk about this with Charlie, just how much we loved having you on the show because you, you have such an optimistic air to you, you, you, you, you know, if there's, if there's doom and gloom out there, like, you come on, and you kind of make sense of it, and you, and you. You kind of steady everybody's nerves, and you say, hey, listen, guys, look at, look at this piece of data. Look at that. And so this was, I think, one of the key points in videos that I saw floating around this weekend, because you're talking about this affordability crisis that has become front and center, partly because some of Charlie's tweets have become. Have gone viral, and everybody's talking about the housing affordability and things like that. Why don't you just start right there? Because people still feel the crunch of Biden inflation. I don't think anybody with a rational mindset thinks that that's all gonna be wiped away in 10 months. But. But explain the real metrics of it and why people are still feeling this way.

[Kevin Hassett]

Oh, sure. I absolutely will. And again, it's my first time on the show since I was talking to Charlie. And one of the things I remember best about him is how much he started to love economics. I think you probably remember some of the conversations I had with him after the show, like when we weren't on tape. But I think that the bottom line is that under Joe Biden, they spent like drunken sailors. And the Fed basically print the money to let them do that. And, you know, everybody knows that that causes inflation. Inflation went up almost to 10% average 5% a year. And then interest rates went up a lot. And so if you wanted, for example, to buy a new home, the typical homeowner would see their mortgage payment double. And meanwhile, grocery prices went up. And so, for example, a typical month's groceries for the average family was about $400 when President Trump took office. It's about $515 at, you know, when President Trump came back again. And so people right. Rightly look back at those numbers as a, geez, you know, I'm really having a hard time keeping ahead now. We've got mortgage rates down, and so the monthly payments are going down. We making it easier to buy a car because we're letting you deduct the interest and inflation itself has dropped down to about two and a half percent right now. But, you know, if Joe Biden doubles your mortgage payment and then it goes down a little bit, and if prices go from 400 to $515 for a typical bag of groceries, then, you know, getting inflation to slow is not the same as reversing the situation. And the way we reverse the situation is we continue to go after every little thing we can to reduce inflation. The most important is at the macro level that we're cutting the deficit by about $600 billion this year, which will put downward pressure on everybody's prices. But then we're going thing by thing to try to come up with policies that help that as well. But the bottom line is that this is a situation that was caused by Democratic policies and this is a situation that we're fixing. And somehow the fact that prices went up a lot under Joe Biden is suddenly a good talking point for President Trump. And that's just preposterous.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Blake Neff, by the way, is also in studio with us. He's our another producer here, so he's got a question.

[Blake Neff]

Howdy. No, I just, I kind of wanted to, you know, highlight just, I love this. One of the, actually one of the last things Charlie was tweeting about, he just talked about he really was fixating on that falling home ownership rate, especially for people about 30 years old when they're in that marrying, getting, having kids range. And he just said, you know, you mentioned it's like left wing policies. And he says we need to restore the social compact. And his six parts were deportations, stop the H1B scam, cut legal immigration and chain migration, build 10 million homes, crush the college cartel. And you think like each of those is really a pillar of, you know, Biden era policy of we're not going to deport anybody. We're going to give endless money to the college cartel with no change whatsoever. We're going to have, you know, endless H1Bs, you know, whatever the right amount we can debate. But it was basically just more and more and more and more. And of course you can't build any homes because we have endless regulation to strangle it. And dismantling that, that is such a basic step towards making America a functional society for more of the people in it.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, I totally agree. And we could throw that image up 59 Kevin, just so you could take.

[Kevin Hassett]

A look at it.

[Andrew Colvitt]

He was responding to a graph that had been going around. This is about a month before he was killed. That said that the percentage of 30 year olds that were both married and owned a home had dropped below 15%. And in the it looks like 1960s, it was over 50%. It stayed about 50% until about 1970. Even in 1970, 1980, it was about 45%. 1990, it was about 45%. And then it dropped off a cliff. I mean, I don't know if you want to put your macroeconomic hat on. If you had to isolate what happened around 1990 from a macroeconomic standpoint or from a societal standpoint that caused that steep decline, what would you identify as the main drivers? Sure.

[Kevin Hassett]

Well, I think that the steepest decline is really over the last three or four years where the mortgage rate went through the roof. But I think the thing that you guys have been talking about, Charles talked about forever, the declining rate of marriage is a really big deal. You know, that people get married and then they buy a house and usually people don't do it before then. And so I think that if you look at the sort of declining marriage rates over time that they explain a lot of the declining homeownership. And the other thing that you just mentioned about, like, stop throwing all the money at the colleges so that they could just jack up tuition and everything. There's another thing on the affordability question that is underappreciated. I just would like to highlight with you guys, which is Obamacare was supposed to be Affordable Care act, right? That's what they said. And so all of this stuff, all the fights of the shutdown and everything about the Affordable Care act, first of all, all those policies were crafted by Democrats, every single one of them, like barely if ever got a Republican vote. And so if somebody's got a problem with the Affordable Care act now, then they should blame the Democrats. And somehow the affairs, the Affordable Care act, if you look at the mainstream media, is President Trump's fault. But then the other thing is, and this goes back to your point that you just made so cleverly about the colleges and universities. And something that Charlie highlighted is, so what happened was that in the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare started giving lots of subsidies to people to buy health insurance. And so there is sort of like you get subsidies for going to college. And then what happened was that the insurance companies, which give lots of campaign contributions to the Democrats, jacked up their prices. And so if you look at the Obamacare insurance programs, insurance policies, they've increased a rate of inflation of about twice what it is for ordinary private plants and so it's a classic case of throwing government money at stuff and then having the people who get the money jacking up the price and giving a worse deal to the American citizen. And that's something that Charlie would, of course, spoken up a lot about. And it's something that we're paying attention to right now.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, absolutely. I mean, you could look at universities. As soon as we federalize student loans as opposed to private loans. One of our sponsors is yrefi that actually helps with private student loans. You saw ballooning of college administrative classes. I mean, the ratio of teachers to students drops off a clip. But the ratio of administrators to students, I mean, it's ballooned at an astronomical rate. And of course, we see, you know, building new stadiums, new buildings go through the roof starting in the late 90s, early 2000s and onto today. But the quality of the actual education, teaching and professors goes down. So there is kind of a very interesting parallel to when government gets involved, whether it be in healthcare or in our higher education institutions, a massive decrease in quality.

[Kevin Hassett]

My sons both went to Columbia University, and I can remember that when my youngest son was. I was going through his classes. One of the required classes he had was Critical Race Theory. It was a required class, it was a core class. You know, Columbia, our guys went there because they thought that Columbia was this place where they had the Great Books program and they still celebrated Western civilization as something, but they squeezed in Critical Theory as one of the top courses, a required course for everybody at Columbia. And so that's the kind of stuff that isn't going to get you a job, I guess, unless the governments are putting you in charge of that for some poor company. But that's the kind of thing that's made education less valuable.

[Andrew Colvitt]

You're right. And what else are they teaching young people is to not get married. Go ahead and throw it. Image 66. Obviously, it's a wider societal issue, but there is massive amounts of indoctrination that are going on at the higher education levels. This is. Girls are now less likely than boys to say that they want to get married. I had a tweet about this up over the weekend that went viral. This is the percentage of 12th graders saying they are most likely to choose to get married in the long run. In 1993, it was 83% of of girls and 76% of boys. Boys have remained basically steady. Girls, however, have dropped more than 22 points. They're now from 83%, 93 to 61% in 2023. So we've had a, an absolute collapse of the percentage of young women that want to get married. And so, so what we I will tell you, this is first hand experience. I know one of my last really poignant memories with Charlie at a large event we were doing Action Summit over the summer in Tampa and we went into a room with all these young leaders from Turning Point usa and we asked them a question like how many of you feel a disconnect in dating? Do you feel like that? You guys, the men and the girls are seeing eye to eye. And it was like every hand went up. They were like, no, we are not seeing eye to eye. There was a massive problem between boys and girls at this point. We want different things. We see the world different. Our timelines are different. You saw that NBC poll that basically suggested that young men want to get married, start a career and have kids and young women want a career, make money, be financially independent. Down it was 11 out of 13 on the list was have kids and get married. I mean, so you're seeing a real societal breakdown when it comes to basic things like, like, you know, procreating, creating the next generation. And by the why that's so important. The three M's I went I was with on Martha MacCallum on Fox on Friday about this, the three M's Charlie and I would talk about it. We would talk about on the show all the time, marriage, mortgage and mating. Brookings Institute calls those the conservatizing life events. Kevin, More on the economy when we get back. We'll be we'll be right back with Kevin Hassett, The Charlie Kirk show where talk meets action. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined with Kevin Hassett. There is a lot of actual good economic news when you get into the numbers. I want to play cut 109. This is Peter Doocy comparing President Trump's first year to Joe Biden's 109.

[Blake Neff]

Look at overall inflation for the first year of Trump versus Biden. Biden overall inflation was up 4.3%, higher than Trump, just up 1.6%. Groceries under Biden in that time up 3.8% with Trump up 1.3.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And then when it comes to gas, this is crazy.

[Blake Neff]

Biden up 24, 4.4%.

[Andrew Colvitt]

With Trump it is actually down 5.4%. I have a real quick question before we welcome back national radio. We've got a minute and a half here before we welcome our radio stations back. Kevin the how much do you have to lower prices before we start Worrying about deflationary pressure. I know we're not there yet, but I mean, we don't want deflation, obviously. Right. So is there a way to sort of make good on what people really think they want, which is lower prices without sort of tanking the economy or do you just have to sort of wait for wages to catch up?

[Kevin Hassett]

No, it's a great question. And also that chart that you just showed with Peter, the fact is that what the left is doing right now is they're looking at say that 24% increase and say, well, you're down 5% but you know, you're still up. And the bottom line is that they have this massive hole that was dug by Joe Biden and we're filling the hole really fast. But the fact that the hole still exists is what the they're blaming President Trump for, which is just logically ridiculous. And so, you know, my, my view is that the way that we move forward is that we have a big supply side positive shock for the economy, which we are having because of the big beautiful bill. So we're building factories, we're cutting taxes on overtime and taxes on tips so that people work harder and that increases growth, but it doesn't increase inflation, but it gives you enough growth so that you shouldn't worry about deflation. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I have a follow up to that when we welcome back national radio with Kevin Hassett. We'll be right back in two seconds. All right, we are back. Radio stations across the country. I want to tell you really quickly about my Patriot supply. Listen, I know that there are a lot of choices out there for your wireless, but there's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that is Patriot Mobile. They support this show, they support Turning Point usa. Glenn and the team are genuinely great patriots. Phenomenal, phenomenal people. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines fighting for our God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three main networks. You can major networks, you can get two on one phone like I have with the dual sim. I definitely recommend checking that out. But here's the, here's the key. Every dollar you spend, you know, is going to good people or they're donating it into good causes. And that is the real reasons you get the same everything. You just know that your money's going to a good place. Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you. So call 972 Patriot today 972 Patriot or go to patriot mobile.com Charlie. Patriot mobile.com Charlie use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That's patriot mobile.com Charlie or call 972 Patriot and make the switch today. All right, Kevin Hassett. Now, I want to talk about this idea of deflation, right? So this is, we've known that this has been a dog of a problem for so many countries. Like Japan went through a massive deflationary crisis. I think that's what people think they're getting actually when they think Trump's gonna fix the economy, Trump's gonna fix what Biden started. I think they think that they're getting deflationary, but that's bad. So what we really need to do is you're talking about the supply side shock. President Trump's talking about 16, 17, 18, $19 trillion of investment into the economy and then that starts boosting wages. You get a tightening job market when you deport illegal immigrants, frankly, when you have a net migration outflow out of the country, right. So you tighten the labor supply, then you get wages going up, you get investment, you get this one year amortization, which is in the accelerated amort amortization of things like, you know, a restaurant wants to build a kitchen and they have to, they can amortize all that in the single year or bigger investments. When are we going to start seeing that supply side shock? Because I know $19 trillion come to the economy, if that materializes, that's going to be huge. But it's going to take a little while. How do you predict the next six to 12 months going?

[Kevin Hassett]

It actually isn't taking a while. In fact, it's underway right now. If you look at capital spending this year, it's pretty much up by almost as much as we saw all four years. For Joe Biden, there's been a capital spending boom because people want to build factories and create jobs in the US and in fact, it was one of my favorite little footnotes about the State of the Union address. I guess we're supposed to call it something else, the joint session of Congress. But when we were editing the final draft, one of the nerdy things that the economic team asked the president to stick in was that whenever we pass the big beautiful bill, we're going to make the accelerated depreciation, the expensing of new equipment and new factories retroactive to his address that night point. And then what we saw was that there was an explosion of investment already because people knew we were going to pass the big beautiful bill and we gave them this massive tax incentive to do it. And so it's really underway, a big part of it. But one of the things that happens in terms of the big wage effects that we're going to see is that people tend to get their wage adjusted if they're not changing jobs in January. And so there's going to be really big salary increases. They're already underway this year. But when you see January, and the other thing is, because it takes a while for the IRS to do the forums, the no tax on tips and no tax on overtime, a lot of people aren't going to see that until April when they get their refunds. And so the bottom line is there's a lot of really good after tax news coming for next year and it won't be deflationary. The way you get deflationary is you remember they called it the new normal under Obama. You just can't grow very much and you got like really, really low price inflation, even deflation. Well, that's because they put a straitjacket around the economy.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Economy.

[Kevin Hassett]

We're not doing that. And so we won't have deflation. We won't have low growth like that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, no. And I think you agree with Scott Bessant. He says that he thinks the US economy will likely substantially accelerate Q1 and Q2 of next year. I'm going to put you on the spot here, Kevin. You can feel free to defer. I know this isn't necessarily in your portfolio, but I saw Steven Moran, he went on, I don't remember one of the networks, and said that, that he believes that deportations, mass deportations, are deflationary, meaning they actually do drop prices or reduce the rate of inflation potentially. Do you think that the US economy still needs 1 to 1.2 million green cards, including H1BS and all that stuff, given AI is coming down the pike. We got this job insecurity with new grads. 30 seconds. I know it's not enough time to answer it, but. But do your best.

[Kevin Hassett]

Yeah, you know, you know, I'm for legal immigration that President Trump thinks is the appropriate amount. And I haven't talked to him lately about what the appropriate amount right now is. So I don't have an exact number for you. But I think that stopping illegal is one of the great accomplishments of any president ever. And he really has pretty much stopped it in his tracks. And people told us that would cause a recession, but it didn't. Right. Because it gave the jobs back to native born people. And in fact, more than 100% of the jobs this year come from native born people.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Amen. Kevin Hassett, thank you so much for joining us. It's an honor to have you. We'll talk to you again soon.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Just about every week we talk with the founder of Energized Health, John Jubilee, about getting healthy at a cellular level. While it may sound far fetched, here's one couple's testimony after just 88 days on his program. I'm 37 years old and I went.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And got some labs done.

[Scott Turner]

I found out I was diabetic.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So I got put on blood pressure medicine, diabetes medicines, a ton of stuff.

[Libby Evans]

It was very, very scary getting those numbers in, especially with a nine month old baby and a three and a half year old son. We're too young to waste our life away on, you know, the things that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We were doing over these past three months. It's been amazing.

[Libby Evans]

We've lost 115 pounds in 88 days.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

My A1C went from a 10.7 down to a 4.7. Boom.

[Libby Evans]

Truly has been not life changing only, but life saving.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Boom. That was my favorite part of the whole thing. John joins me now to talk a bit more about this and how you may be able to be the next success story. John, good to see you.

[John Jubilee]

Great to see you, Terrence.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

So how do people start the process? You know, that's the hardest part for so many of us, just taking that first step.

[John Jubilee]

Well, Terrence, one big takeaway from that couple is don't wait, wait. Right. Don't wait until you get that report. So for that couple, you know, they got a horrible medical report, right? So, you know, so he learned he was diabetic, he had high blood pressure. You know, he had about a half a dozen health issues, by the way. And so I would encourage people, don't wait until you get that far. You know, my grandfather taught me, Terrence, that, you know, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, which means let's do the same with our health. Let's be preventative. Let's go do the thing that will make us healthy, keep us healthy so that we never have to get a bad report like that.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

And don't necessarily let age be what motivates you. Don't think, oh, I'm in my 30s, I'm in my 40s, I'm still in pretty good health because sometimes our biological age can belie our physical age.

[John Jubilee]

Well, it's interesting. Interesting you say that, Terrence, because, you know, some of you may have heard us talk about the $97 consultation that we do. We do a $97 consultation. One of the things we measure is your metabolic age. And man, is that a wake up call, Terrence, for a lot of people? Because maybe they're 37, but their biological age is already 52. And they realize, oh, my gosh, like, these things are really going to catch up to me. You know, the bad choices I've made in my life and what are the good choices I need to make? And what is something I need to make that really can make an impact? Hey, and I'm right there, guys. I was 37 years old when I made this change in my life. And it was the greatest investment I ever made in myself, Terrence, was to get healthy at the cellular level. Because you guys know my story. I was bone on bone on both my knees. I regrew my cartilage. I got rid of my high blood pressure and hypertension and haven't had one medical doctor Visit Terrence since 1997. That's 28 years. I'll do the math for you.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Thank you. Because I was trying to carry the one and all that stuff. So, look, John, the reality is some things that we deal with are genetic. But you say there are also things that we do in our own lifestyles that contribute to the onset of some of those genetic diseases.

[John Jubilee]

Well, I will quickly say this, Terrence. Any genetic. Anything we have genetic is reversible. Anything genetic is reversible. So you may have gotten it genetically, but I did a television special with Dr. Thomas Cabell. You know, this was back in the 1990s, also, late 90s. But we did a TV special, Terrence, that you can reverse your DNA. So even if it's genetic, guys, you can reverse it. You can have optimal health at the cellular level. You really can.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

And there is hope out there. So for people who are listening to this and want to take that first step, because ultimately, that's what it's all about. At least take the first step. Give it a try. How can they do so well?

[John Jubilee]

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[Andrew Colvitt]

This is according to a new Gallup poll, 20% of people say they want.

[Libby Evans]

To live somewhere else.

[Andrew Colvitt]

That's one in five. And the shift is mainly driven by young women, ages 15 to 44. Forty percent of them say that they want to go. The other thing is that it doesn't ask, are you going to leave? It just says what you know, basically, it's like at a cocktail party, would.

[Libby Evans]

You say, I really want to get.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Out of here, I really want to leave the country?

[Libby Evans]

But they're not actually leaving the country, so it's just complaining.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And there's a lot of Trump derangements.

[Kevin Hassett]

They all want to be Emily in Paris.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It was actually a really good. You got to love Martha. She's pretty great. And Dana Perino. They're both great. Going to welcome, welcome in now editor in chief of the Post, Millennial and Human Events. That would be Libby Evans, good friend of the show. Welcome, Libby.

[Libby Evans]

Hey, Andrew Blake. Glad to be here.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Really glad to have you. So why don't you react to this? I mean, because this is, this is a really crazy stat that 15 to 44 year old women, 40%, want to leave the US permanently. What do you make of this list? Be?

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, these women are out of their minds. They have no idea the bounty of conveniences and food and freedoms and peace that we have here in this country. And I think that this is the reason for this, is that we have done a really, really bad job of telling our kids what is so great about America and what is so great about their homeland contrasted to every place else. By infusing our entire educational system with cultural relativism, we've led these women to believe that all cultures are the same, when in fact, American cult is the greatest one.

[Blake Neff]

Well, I mean, it's different types of American cultures.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, there are, there are. Now, we are, you know, not even bifurcated. We're like, what are we? We have like 13 strands. I mean, we've always been a country with multiple cultures within it.

[Blake Neff]

If anything, we flattened out in a lot of ways. We flattened out after a very distinct New England and Midwestern and California and Arizona.

[Libby Evans]

I miss that. You know, I miss that. I think we should have more. I love. I love the regional differences that we used to have. I wish we still had that. Those. One thing I love about going back to New England, where so many. Much of my family is, is I get to hear all of these Boston accents and the Maine accent, and it's all very different. And New York is different and Philadelphia is different. I think what these women find. And we've seen viral videos of women in the past few months. We saw a woman who moved to Africa, and then she was like, wait a second, it kind of sucks here. We saw a woman who moved to Costa Rica and said that now she knows what real poverty is. She grew up thinking she was poor, going to private school, just because she was. Was the broke kid in private school. And we all know that kid. That kid is not poor, you know, so we're seeing this happen. We're seeing these viral videos. Women who have left tell you that it's not that great out there. And I think that we really owe it to our kids to let them know that America is a great place to live. It has a lot to offer, and it has more opportunity than anywhere else. And it has more opportunity for these women if only they would wise up and stop believing every lie that they've been told.

[Blake Neff]

Well, that's one of the most interesting things, is about the opportunities. Because if you think we've had a million pieces where it's, you know, articles and data points where it's women pulling ahead of men, they're more likely to complete college. They're more like. They're almost. In some ways, they're becoming male in surprising ways. You know, now they're the ones who don't want to get married. They don't want to be attached. They're the ones more likely to buy a home. Like, they're. They're getting, like. They're adopting almost more masculine traits in some surprising ways. And yet, yet. And then, of course, they're also like, let's be frank. We have basically affirmative action for women in a lot of areas. You know, we had a ton of that in academia, in tech, in medicine. There's been a big effort in America to make every institution possible, more opening to women, more welcoming of women, to recruit more women into it. And there's something interesting that they can look at decades of that reality and feel so repulsed by what they see that 40% of them are saying they actually just. They want to move to an entire different country versus men. Who don't want to quit and leave America.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, well, I actually. I mean, and on that point, Libby, how much of this do you think? Kind of what Martha McCallum was saying is this. This just sort of TDS living liberal women, women having to live under a president they didn't vote for versus. Versus. Some of these larger societal trends that we've seen where, you know, you could throw up image 95. This is liberal women are the least likely to be completely satisfied with life. Only 12% of liberal women are, compared to 37% of conservatives, 28% of moderates. So I think that's a good sign of confidence if you want to be a conservative woman, that you're more likely to be completely satisfied with your life. But so is it TDS or is it part of these larger, other societal trends that's driving this desire to get out of the US I think TDS.

[Libby Evans]

Might just be the capper. But women, of course, just like everybody else. A lot of people live under presidents that they didn't vote for, and it's not that big a deal. You look at the president, you say, okay, then vote for that guy. Maybe next time the guy I vote for will win. But I think Blake is onto something when he's talking about these societal trends, because women are basically the dog that caught the car, right? American women. American women, demanding power, demanding access, demanding all of this opportunity, demanding complete equality with men. And then it turns out, there you are in your 40s, you've got some killer career. You've got no kids, you've got no man. You've got, like, a mountain of stuff. And we know from that old Tracy Chapman song that the mountain of things is not really satisfactory. It doesn't give you anything that you want. Turns out having a career for women who, you know, let's face it, are different than. Men are just composed differently. And men are. Women look around at all their stuff, and it's really just not that great. I mean, it might be shiny, but it's nothing like a bundle of grandbabies to snuggle with, you know, and to look after or anything like that. So I think. I think that's really what's going on here, is women have been led to believe that equality with men will give them satisfaction. And then what happens is all of these women end up powerful, and they look around at the men who are available to them to partner with, and they say, oh, but that guy doesn't make as much as me, or, he's not as powerful or as Educated as me, or any of these other things. Because women don't want the thing that they have been told to want. Right? We have been told to want power and equality, you know, straight across the board. And instead what we have gotten is a situation where women can't really be women. Expressing maternal instincts and impulses gets you chided and derided by the left. But there's nothing more satisfying in life than being a mom. Women like to take care of people. I know that, you know, not all women, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But for the most part, women have this maternal instinct. And so when you have women who are cut off from that instinct, they tend to mother everybody and screw up everything that they're in charge of.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, this is a. This is a good point because check this out. This was actually a few days I remember sharing this article with Charlie, actually, I think he tweeted about it. The Marriage Effect from the Atlantic. This is, I believe, September.

[Blake Neff]

Common narrative has it that commitment and motherhood make women unhappy. New data suggests the opposite is true.

[Andrew Colvitt]

New data. This is.

[Blake Neff]

This is like.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Oh, my God. A common narrative that we've been telling you in the pages of the Atlantic for years that marriage will make you depressed and you won't have all your free time to have, like, wine nights with the ladies and Netflix.

[Blake Neff]

A popular lunatic. Psyop has suggested that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I think this is really important, though, is that we've lied to young women for a generation or more, really, since the 60s. Burn your bras and all this kind of stuff. I mean, this has been going on since the post war era, and it really is taking a massive impact when you add onto the heap social media, mental, I think, changes in the way we do psychiatry and changes in the way we administer antidepressants. All of these things on top of each other. So cultural lies, the drugs, social media, all of it is coming. The chickens are coming home to roost with our young women. Libby Emmons.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, I think that's 100% true. I was talking to Dr. Chloe Carmichael about this the other day. The incessant and rampant medicalization of womanhood. And we get it from such a young age. Starts with birth control pills and then you move on to SSRIs, and then, you know, you end up with fertility treatments and then all of a sudd. Medicating menopause. I think all of that is a contributor to women's unhappiness in this country. And I also think the, you know, emasculation of so many American Men is a contributor to American women's unhappiness because as you see these roles reversed and women are more educated and they're making more money and they're more in charge of stuff or whatever. And then you see men becoming more of like the stay at home dad or other things that, you know, men then end up doing, which were traditionally more feminine roles. Women aren't attracted to those guys. It turns out. It turns out that the male feminist is not someone that a lady wants to get married to.

[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Blake Neff]

17.

[Andrew Colvitt]

2017. We saw it become leaving the country because they've been pulling this for a long time. All of a sudden, in 2017, the year Trump becomes president, it becomes a partisan issue. We're going to welcome back national radio in about three seconds. Don't go anywhere. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.

[Blake Neff]

Three quarters of his patients in New.

[Andrew Colvitt]

York have symptoms, and he is calling it the defining pathology of our time. What's the prescription? Just take two aspirin and call me in 2020, 28. Well, a psychotherapy prayer asking your family to make you sane again. Maybe we should consider a. An ICD10 billing code. Medicare for people with Trump derangement syndrome. You know, it is such a pathological process. You can have a rational discussion. You and I, we've had plenty of.

[Blake Neff]

People come into our lives we disagree with.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I'm fine with that, but at least have a rational and thoughtful conversation about what's really going down. 75% of his patients have TDS symptoms. He calls it the defining pathology of our time. Love him or hate him, you cannot ignore President Trump. He will drive people nuts. And then Libby Evans is going to join us right now. She's still with us. Let's look at image 98. This is from Gallup. The desire to migrate became a partisan issue in 2017. So you see it just really divide in 2017. If you disapproved of the country's leadership, you wanted to get the heck out. And that kind of underlies really how divided people are. Because, as you said, we've all lived through presidents we didn't like. We never thought, okay, I'm not an American anymore. But that is increasingly untrue because the vision for the country of either party is getting farther and farther apart.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, I think you're right. I saw an article recently from David Marcus over at Fox Digital, and he was talking about how the. The left essentially wants a welfare state. They want open borders, and they want the decline of the country. They want it to just be nothing that has anything to do with a culture or a history or foundational elements. And I think that's a. That's a big part of this, too. Right? You have on the right. You have. Have a desire to have independence, to have government be out of your lives. And on the left you have a desire to push government into every aspect of Americans lives. You had Mamdani say recently when he made his victory speech in New York City that there is no problem too large for the government to. Small to. I'm sorry, no problem too large for the government to solve and no problem too small that they won't get involved in it. That sounds like a recipe for tyranny for me. And I think you've also seen a lot of people saying they would leave New over that. I don't know if they're planning to leave America. But yeah, you have people saying they want to leave America because of Trump. We've definitely seen that. But these people have not considered where it is that they might want to go. There is a decline of free speech rights in Europe and the UK Specifically. There's been a decline in that in Australia and New Zealand.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Where. Where are they going to go, Libby? Are they going to go to Germany with the. With the Middle Eastern migrant rape gangs? Are we going to. Are they going to go to the UK with the. The grooming gangs? Are they going to go to. Where are they going to go? Like maybe.

[Blake Neff]

It is a funny thing. I've seen pointed out that it's like the left often like they talk about leaving the country and they fantasize basically about going to countries that are whiter than America is. And then when the right. Actually you often hear right wingers fantasize about leaving America and they want to basically go expat in. In Mexico or Peru or something. It's a funny dynamic. You'll sometimes see.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It's cognitive dissonance. But it totally is the trend. It totally is the trend. Libby. I just. I have to play this because you were talking about strong men versus weak men and how weak men are actually driving women crazy. In part. And I don't disagree. You're not lecturing men. I don't. I just want to be very clear. That's not what you're doing. You're just saying you celebrate strong men. I know what you're saying, but this is really funny. 131. This is a liberal woman having a similar thought. 131. Why is every single man that I'm attracted to a Republican? We got aura. You know what I mean? Yeah, we got aura. I mean we got the ver.

[Libby Evans]

Perhaps she likes men instead of little wussy creatures who, you know, just do what they're told and. And don't have any ambition. I think it's a sad thing what we've done to American men. And I certainly hope that trends reverse that. Women don't want that. And men are unhappy, too. Men don't want that. It's terrible. It's terrible conditions for them.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Absolutely. And let's throw up this image. This is actually I don't have a number for it, so I'm gonna make sure we have it. But this is a really important data point and it's a general social survey from the family studies. It shows that 40% of married women with children are reporting that they are very happy. Happy. Do you know who the least happy is, though? And this is an important thing to know is unmarried with children at 17 and they unmarried with no children is at 22% report being very happy. So the happiest cohort is by far married women with children. They report being very happy. So I guess the cautionary tale is here is don't have children, get married, then divorced and have to be a single mom because then you'll be the least happy. So choose one. Well, I'm not saying rush in with the wrong person. I'm saying married with children is the happiest cohort. Libby, you are the best. We love the post millennial and human events. Thank you for making time for us. I know you had a busy media morning.

[Libby Evans]

Thanks so much, guys. I appreciate it.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We'll see you again soon. All right. We have HUD Secretary Scott Turner up next talking about housing affordability. We'll be right back.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Welcome back to this REAL America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. A busy week is getting underway on Capitol Hill now that the government shutdown is over. While January 30th is circled on lawmakers calendars as a drop dead date to pass appropriations bills, there's also a lot on tap this week before Congress leaves for Washington or leaves Washington for Thanksgiving. RAV Congressional correspondent Benny Ray Harmony joins me live now from the rotunda in the Capitol with the very latest. Good afternoon.

[Congressional Correspondent]

Hi, Terence. Yeah, this is a big week. This is Congress's first week back in session after the longest government shutdown that we have ever seen of 42 days. Now some of the things on the agenda this week are really going to be kicking off tomorrow. On Tuesday, we will see the vote for the Epstein files take place as well as some other hearings. Actually, one that I thought was very interesting is a Syria assessment threat to see if Syria is a threat to the United States. And another thing we're going to see is a lot of bills that have been pushed back because of the government shutdown are going to be brought to the floor. And then one more that is very important is Speaker Mike Johnson. He actually is. He found fast tracked a bill that has to do with the senators, the GOP senators who are allowed to sue for up to $500,000. And the senator snuck this into the bill last minute and Speaker Johnson plans to introduce that on the House floor tomorrow.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Right. And the senator, it's my understanding that Speaker Johnson wants to do away with that provision. Correct. It's something that obviously was added to the appropriations bill to reopen the government, but it's something that many congressmen members, members in the House feel like was snuck in last minute and the speaker would like to do away with that. Is that correct?

[Congressional Correspondent]

Yeah, it is. And so Speaker Johnson, many people might be wondering, you know, well, shouldn't Speaker Johnson want this in the bill? And the issue is, is it raises serious concern for, you know, the foundational laws of the United States. And it could also look like to many Americans that because of the position of these senators, they are getting privileges that others aren't. And so Mike Johnson, he said he was taken aback and very surprised when thune when he saw this in the bill.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Absolutely. Benny Ray Harmony reporting for us, our RAF congressional correspondent there on Capitol Hill this morning. We appreciate you being here with us.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It's time for a whole new generation to wise up and rise up. The Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. In just a moment, we are going to have Scott Turner, who is the secretary of the Housing and Urban Development. Great, great man. I'm excited to talk to him about housing affordability, which is one of the top topics in the country right now. But first, first I want to tell you about my Patriot supply. Many of us are hopeful about the direction the country is headed. But after years of abuse and mismanagement, just think about the four years of Joe Biden. Things could fall apart at any moment. That's why I and many Americans from all walks of life have taken action to prepare for whatever is coming next. And that starts with having an emergency food supply in your home. Ideally, storing food in your home is the right thing to do because we're living in crazy, unpredictable times. Times. Which explains why so many people are preparing right now. You can get ready too with a three month emergency food kit from my Patriot supply. It comes with delicious foods like creamy stroganoff, honey wheat bread and mushroom rice pilaf. The entire kit offers over 2000 calories a day. So you're going to have, you're going to be well fed if emergency strikes. And guess what? The kits last, last up to 25 years. These things get flooded like they're, they're sealed, they're mold proof, flood proof. All these, these things, I don't think they're fireproof. That's the one thing that would be, that would be asking a lot. Who knows what the country is going to look like in 25 years. So get prepared. Go to my patriotsupply.com Kirk to order a three month emergency food kit from my Patriotsupply. Go to my patriotsupplys.com Kirk without further ado, I'm excited to welcome Scott Turner. He's our HUD secretary. Welcome to the show. Secretary Turner. There you are.

[Scott Turner]

Thank you, Andrew. Great to be with you guys. Thank you, Blake.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, it's an honor to have you. You've been, I mean, you've been doing a tremendous job, but on top of that, you've always been so encouraging, a huge supporter of Charlie's, of Turning Point. And we salute you for that, sir. So thank you just for being a great friend along the way as everything we've been through in the last couple months has transpired.

[Scott Turner]

Well, absolutely. You know how much I love and respect, respect Charlie and entire Turning Point team and, and you gentlemen and Eric and everything that you're doing to continue the mission. I'm here, you know, to support you and pray for you and love on you guys. So thank you so much for this brief moment. We can be together.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, absolutely. Well, and thank you for making the time, Mr. Secretary. And you have come out guns a blazing with this affordability crisis. And this is something Charlie talked about a lot, especially in the final weeks and months of his life and wanting to make sure that Gen Z has a stake in the American dream, has an opportunity to get on the rung of financial success, that first rung in the ladder. And so you came out, I saw the clip, I instantly reached out to your team and I love that you were talking about, tell us about your plans to address the housing and affordability crisis for, especially for young Americans.

[Scott Turner]

Well, absolutely. Well, let's, let's go to the root of it. You know, during the Biden administration, the policies as it pertains to housing, the economy and in particular the immigration policies of the Biden administration were crippling to our country and housing affordability in particular. You talk about over 12 million illegal aliens coming across our border. And because of this, Andrew, it literally Stifled and weakened our housing supply and stifled housing affordability because illegal aliens were taken up home that American people should have been taken up. And so because of that, you see the affordability crisis, you see the issues that we're having. And one stat that I wanted to bring forth is about 59% of illegal alien families, 59%, they utilize one or more of the welfare programs in our country to the tune of about $42 billion. And so if you think about over half of the illegal alien family families use one or more welfare programs costing the American people over $40 billion, that's a problem. It's not sustainable in our country in particular, when it comes to housing affordability. And so for millennials, and really for every American citizen, what we're doing at HUD is one, being very focused on tearing down burdensome regulations, which we can talk about as the show goes on, but taking down these regulations, both from a federal standpoint point, and then encouraging the localities, mayors, economic development states and cities to take inventory of their regulatory environment, because that has really what has crippled development and building in our country. And so regulations. For instance, in a multifamily housing project, 40% of regulations are the cost. When you build a multifamily housing project. In a single family housing development development, 20 to 25% of the cost is in regulations. Well, Andrew and Blake, this is unsustainable. And so we have to tear down the regulatory environment in order to unleash the development and build in creativity and innovativeness in our country as it pertains to our housing supply.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, go ahead, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

Another stat I saw recently that really drove this home is put up 132. And this is, this chart is the number of newly built homes per capita in the US by year. And you can see different points in time, but the trend is clearly downwards. You can see different housing busts. You can see the Great Recession. It really tanks new construction. But the trend is so consistently down. Sure, some of that is we're probably a little better at building houses that can last, you know, last a little longer. And so you don't need as much turnover. But at the same time, it's the number of new houses getting built is just steadily going downwards. And that might not even be, you know, an accurate per capita thing, because we might not have an accurate number of how many people are illegally entering.

[Andrew Colvitt]

The country lower than that.

[Blake Neff]

And so it's just there's a steady downward trend in what, how, how many houses are being built. Shocker. The price of houses Is going up.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah. And that's while we've had massive population increases. Right. I mean, from, if you, I mean this is approximate numbers, but it was, let's say 225 million million people in this country in 1980. Maybe it was like 1985 by that we got to that point and now we're at 333, 40. We really don't know how many people are in the country because we don't know how many illegal aliens are in the country. I am a big proponent, Mr. Secretary, of single family homes. And I know that you kind of work on both the single family homes, especially in the urban core, these multifamily units. I believe that it's the best way that a young family gets a start. The kids need a yard. I mean, you know, it, it gives a better sense of, of ownership, of independence, of, I think, a stake in the community. I really like single family homes. What do you see is, is the solution for expanding single family homes? We're in Phoenix. It's like the capital of single family homes. Just like it's, it's like gives you a lot of urban sprawl. Downside, I understand, but it's also the biggest metropolitan area in the country that voted for Trump. Right. So it's, I think it's the fifth biggest metro area in the country and it went red if you count all Maricopa County. I think there is a correlation to housing density and politics. I just think it's, you know, the white picket fence. You call it an ideal, you call it old fashioned. I think it's a beautiful thing. What's your viewpoint on how we approach new housing developments in the country? We want to be respectful of public lands. We want to keep things beautiful. But we also want to make sure, sure we're not outlawing single family homes as they've essentially done in California. By the way, you can't build new single family zoning in California. Right.

[Scott Turner]

And that's a great perspective and great question, Andrew. And you know, at hud, we deal with every American citizen in our country. And when I say that, meaning that housing impacts all 380 million people per se that we have in our country. Country right now we have a housing shortage guys of about 7 million units of housing that we need. We need single family houses. We need multifamily duplex condo, manufactured housing. Manufactured housing obviously is going to play a big role in filling this housing gap that we have in our country. And Andrew. Yes. You know, when you own a home, it is the single most powerful way to build equity and to start building generational wealth. Wealth is in the home that you own. And so, yes, I am a proponent, as you are, for single family homes, but also when you think about the millennial generation or people who are just now getting started, sometimes people have to rent a multifamily or rent an apartment or a condo in order to save so that they can have the monies available and appropriate and needed to invest in a single family home. And so from our standpoint point, you know, we look at the picture from a holistic view. And so what we're doing, when I talk about bringing down regulation and using some of the programs at HUD, like our section 221 and 223, to help build affordable housing and make rents as such that people can afford that, to save up, to achieve the American dream of home ownership. So, yes, I am in agreement with you that single family homes are very important to build wealth, wealth, to build family, you know, to bring families together, to raise our children. I encourage the young people of America today, you know, to get married, to have children, to raise a family, to save up, buy a home, you know, build neighborhoods. And so I'm in lockstep with you. But from our standpoint, and my standpoint personally, you know, we have to help those that are just now getting started out that may be renting to save up, to buy a home. And our FHA program has been tremendous. Say that again, we've helped about 630,000 people this year to have the first time to buy loans from FHA. And 370,000 of those are first time homebuyers.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Oh, fantastic. That's great. I just want to, I want to commend the admin. We did a whole segment on this last week. But I just, you know, there was some polling that came out, Rich Barris was on it, talking about that there was a feeling, a sense out there, there, especially after the off year elections in Virginia, New Jersey, that there was maybe a messaging disconnect from the administration to what people were actually wanting. Right? There was a lot of focus on foreign policy. They wanted more focus on domestic. And I just want to say the admin has completely responded. You're part of that. And I just love that you guys are really hammering home the fact that. Affordability, affordability, Housing, housing, housing. Gen Z, Gen Z. Gen Z. Let's go ahead and play. 79 that's another indication of some of this messaging that's getting out there. 79 President and his team want to.

[Blake Neff]

Put a difficult start to November behind them with a blizzard of policy and PR announcements designed to help Americans with the cost of living. So what are those announcements going to be? More deals with pharmaceutical companies to bring down drug prices? Efforts to address those. Higher mortgage rates. Try to change the housing market reducing tariff, as you guys mentioned, a number of products as well as a possible $2,000 rebate check for some taxpayers.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Affordability, Affordability, affordability. Blake, I don't know if you had anything to add there.

[Blake Neff]

No, just it's, it's what one of the things Charlie cared about the most. And I just, I look at all of those long term trends and you see long term trends, we don't build. We don't build as many houses as we used to. We are steadily escalating the price of those houses. I mean, we have, you know, the debate over how should we even try to lower them. You know, we. And it really appeals to people. I think we should emphasize this for the administration. We Talked about the 50 year mortgage idea last week and the number of emails we got about that was gigantic. Some, some topics don't fire up our audience even if we talk about them. That one did. Email after email after email. And some people really liked it, some people really, really hated it. It's not uniform how people felt about it, but what they do have strong thoughts about is the housing topic.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, and I love the, I love the creativity, Mr. Secretary. I mean, it seems like we're going to get a blizzard of new proposals in the coming weeks. And I'm just grateful to you that you at HUD are focused on it and you're laser focused on helping Gen Z start a family, get married, have kids, and use every power that you have at your disposal. So thank you, sir, for doing that.

[Scott Turner]

Absolutely. Thank you, guys.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, God bless you, sir. We'll have you on again soon with updates because this is a big topic and there's going to be much to discuss. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. I want to tell you guys really quickly about the culture and Christianity podcast, the Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Alan Jackson's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, doge housing, affordability, responsibility, getting married, Trump in the White House, issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss the problems in every episode. He gives practical things you and I can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible expertise, powerful testimonies. Each episode will make you recognize the power of your own faith. The Culture and Christianity Podcast is available on YouTube, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. Culture. You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry@Alan Jackson.com forward/charlie AlanJackson.com forward/charlie. Final segment of the day. We'll be right back.

[Blake Neff]

On air and on fire for the.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Preservation of our nation. Nation, the Charlie Kirk show. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. We want to hear from you. In this last segment, we're going to be talking about property taxes. Okay. Ron DeSantis is trying to get rid of it in the state of Florida. The, the, I think he wants to.

[Blake Neff]

Get rid of it nationwide.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, but it. What's that?

[Blake Neff]

He wants to get rid of it nationwide.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Nationwide, sure. But he has power in Florida. A lot of people think this is good. A lot of people think this is bad. They think it's a form of elderly welfare when they happen to be the most wealthy in the country. But really quick, before we get to to radio, let's play 49. This is Charlie on renting.

[Kevin Hassett]

If you have a generation that does that does not own stuff, then all of a sudden political radicalization starts to seep in.

[Blake Neff]

I have a question for all of.

[Kevin Hassett]

You in the audience and this should hammer it home. It's from my friend Frank Turek. And I told him as soon as he said it, I said, I'm going to steal this one.

[Blake Neff]

Frank, when was the last time you washed a rental car?

[Kevin Hassett]

When you rent a car from Hertz or from Avis, do you wash it?

[Blake Neff]

Do you go get the oil checked.

[Kevin Hassett]

On that rental car?

[Libby Evans]

Car?

[Kevin Hassett]

Of course not. It's not yours and you know it. You're borrowing it. And it's no different than how people are living in apartments endlessly till they're 32, 33, they have two kids and they have to rent because the access to the housing market is so impossible. You have an entire population generation that is on the outside looking in. And that is a prerequisite for a political revolution if we don't turn renters into owners.

[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Blake Neff]

I get it. I understand. I've, I've seen this pop up and I can see how that's like very intuitively appealing. But at the same time, like I saw, I had a tweet over the weekend where I objected to this and.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It got commented on.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. And it got a, like, it got us very strong reaction, like much stronger than usually. And most of it was pretty hostile, I'll admit it. But I think, you know, I occasionally talk to Charlie about this because this was starting to bubble up while he was still with us. And you know what I think needs to be emphasized is abolishing property taxes, as he says. DeSantis said who the biggest beneficiary is intended to be. It's intended to be senior citizens who've already paid off their homes.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Right.

[Blake Neff]

Let's look at the numbers.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Numbers.

[Blake Neff]

Elderly Americans are the wealthiest Americans by generation. And this has gotten more and more dramatic over time. This is not just a constant of life. This is something that has gotten. It's growing more intense every single year. We already have a lot of things that specifically benefit older Americans. They receive Social Security payments, of course, and yes, they paid into it, but those are funded by just taxing young people now. And a very large number of Social Security recipients get more money than they ever paid in.

[Andrew Colvitt]

There's your tweet up there, by the way. Yes. 800, 100. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't engage.

[Blake Neff]

It's not the specific numbers.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It's the reaction. Good conversation. Stimulator, man.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. And like, so you have. You have that. So elderly people are. They're pulling away. I mean, they get Medicare, of course. Their Social Security is now tax free, I believe. Did we pass that? I believe at least some portion of it is tax free.

[Andrew Colvitt]

They had. And because it was done through reconciliation, they had to basically give them a.

[Blake Neff]

They're also the biggest beneficiaries of the general rise in home prices. They were generally bought for cheaper amounts of these. Keep appreciating. And property taxes, like, they do pay for things. They pay for, like, among other things, the legal system that guarantees your right to ownership. I think that's important.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Fire department.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, they get your fire department, your police department, schools, and they say, well, I don't have kids anymore. Well, you benefited from schools when you had kids in them and when you attended them yourself. We do not just say, only parents pay into things. We collectively pay for a lot of things in society. You pay for cops, even if you're not in a high crime neighborhood or not that exposed. We have a general obligation to care about the wider.

[Andrew Colvitt]

The general wealth.

[Blake Neff]

And then you can say those taxes are inefficient and wasteful. I'm totally okay with that. But like.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Okay, but we have a minute left. Explain that versus a land tax.

[Blake Neff]

Well, land tax would be better. But this is the thing we're not proposing replacing.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Understand?

[Blake Neff]

But what is it A land tax would be. You tax the unimproved value of your land. Instead of taxing, like, any property on it, you're just kind of taxing the. Like the land as it would be worth if there was nothing built on it. And this has become more popular lately. It's an idea from the 1800s, actually to tax this because the idea is it discourages speculation, it incur. It discourages sitting on land and doing nothing with it because you hope it'll go up in value. And instead it encourages development, it encourages productivity. And that's the other thing. It's generally when we've studied studied it, taxes on land have been. Or property taxes are some of the least distortionary taxes. Think of income tax. Taxing income discourages people from working to make more income because you're taking it out. Taxing property discourages sitting on property without doing anything to make more money. And so we think of what different taxes encourage.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I kind of want to like finish this back.

[Blake Neff]

We should have longer discussions.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We're gonna. We're gonna wrap up the radio hour. If you're streaming or on podcast, we're gonna continue for few minutes. This is important. We will see you tomorrow. Radio stations and Real America's Voice. We'll. We're going to continue this for podcast though. This is an iHeart podcast.