The Charlie Kirk Show, November 22, 2024, Hour 2

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show – November 22, 2024, Hour 2 (Real America’s Voice)

Theme Overview
This episode centers on recent political developments and controversies, focusing on the future of the U.S. Department of Education, debates over gender identity and public policy, reactions to the 2024 election aftermath, high-profile media figures' actions, and a discussion of recent sexual assault allegations in the conservative media sphere.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Department of Education: Calls for Abolition and Critique of Federal Role

(Segment Start: 07:29)

• Charlie Kirk scrutinizes the Department of Education's massive budget (now $238 billion), questioning its effectiveness given stagnant or declining educational outcomes.
  • “Our Department of Education budget is triple the Russian military budget.” (07:45)
  • Notes much of the budget goes to Pell Grants and student loans, which he argues should not be under the department.
  • Describes the department as a “bloated, fastest growing bureaucracy” with little positive return on investment.
  • Criticisms:
    • Alleged promotion of “failed educational programs,” critical race theory, and “top down edicts.”
    • Claims that funding hasn’t improved basic literacy—citing Baltimore schools where “kids literally cannot read.”
    • Questions the entire premise: “The federal government should have no role in the education of our children. It should start with parents, community, school boards, localities, and if necessary, state.”
  • Memorable Quote:
    “Has anyone thought to ask, has any Senate Republican decided to say why are we spending all of this money on this monolith, on this leviathan?... Meanwhile, we went from number one in education to the 25th. How's that for an ROI?” (09:40-11:30)

2. Gender Identity, Nancy Mace, and Public Restrooms

(Segment Start: 21:27)

• Charlie Kirk and guest Megyn Kelly discuss Rep. Nancy Mace’s stance against allowing transgender women (biological males) to use women’s restrooms on Capitol Hill. Speaker Johnson has issued a rule mandating restroom use by biological sex.
• Megyn Kelly is openly critical of the transgender movement, attributing it largely to “autogynephiles” (male-to-female individuals deriving sexual pleasure from dressing as women).
  • “The vast majority of so-called trans people who are male to female are in fact autogynephiles... So there’s a pretty decent chance that that man in a dress in the stall next to you is turned on by the fact that he’s wearing that dress...” (23:05)
  • Insists that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and that women's spaces must be protected.
  • Memorable Quote:
    “There’s a place for you. It’s called the men’s room and, frankly, a shrink’s office.” (25:22)
• Clips are played of activists disrupting Mace, and the panel rebukes AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)'s claims that enforcing biological sex bathroom regulations would result in “genital inspections.”
  • Megyn Kelly:
    “Sandy, this is muya stupido. This is a very dumb point. It’s a lie. It’s a straw man... In these weird chat rooms, they get off on the thought of somebody actually giving them the inspection because they’re autogynephiles. And AOC, who knows nothing about anything, decides to repeat this weird, sick fantasy as something that's going to happen.” (36:10)

3. Media Accountability: Mika & Joe’s Mar-a-Lago Visit

(Segment Start: 38:10)

• Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski (of Morning Joe) were seen at Mar-a-Lago after previously being harsh critics of Trump.
• Megyn Kelly gives a fiery take:
  • “Go f*** yourselves, you dishonest jokes of faux journalists.” (38:24)
  • Says their ratings plummeted after the visit and criticizes them for seeking continued access to power, calling the move “pathetic.”
  • Memorable Quote:
    “It's like what people used to do to their dogs when they would soil the carpet and they take the back of their head and make them bury their nose in the crap so that they wouldn't do it again. That's what [Joe] just did to himself at Mar-a-Lago. And it's somewhat amusing to watch, but it's also so pathetic.” (41:52)

4. Smear Campaign Allegations Against Pete Hegseth

(Segment Start: 48:30)

• Charlie Kirk brings up recent sexual assault allegations against Fox News contributor Pete Hegseth.
• Megyn Kelly analyzes the case, reviewing the police report in detail:
  • Recounts the events: the alleged victim was seen drinking and engaging with Hegseth but appeared “fine” throughout, as confirmed by witnesses and security.
  • Timeline gaps and eyewitness accounts raise strong doubts for Kelly about the veracity of the allegations.
  • Memorable Quote:
    “Having difficulty in one's personal relationships, especially after having served two tours... is much different than being a rapist. And this woman's story smells terribly.” (48:53)
  • Points out that after the night in question, the woman “wasn’t hungover,” further undermining the story in her legal opinion.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Charlie Kirk on limits of federal education:
  “The federal government has failed miserably in this regard. It needs to be deleted, broken apart and brought back to the ultimate micro: the development of a child's soul, character, and values.” (16:57)
• Megyn Kelly on language and gender identity:
  “There are only girls and women. And they require no setup. You don’t have to say biological. You don’t have to say real... If I say girl or woman, you know exactly what it means. And that’s how the language must be treated in general.” (32:15)
• Megyn Kelly on left-leaning women’s reactions:
  “Most of these Democrats have been told for years now that you’re mean if you don’t allow these men posing as women into your bathroom.” (31:51)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Department of Education Critique: 07:29–18:09
• Gender, Restrooms, Nancy Mace: 21:27–26:41
• AOC’s Restroom Enforcement Objection: 35:00–38:10
• Mika & Joe Scarborough at Mar-a-Lago: 38:10–42:59
• Pete Hegseth Allegation Analysis: 48:30–53:50

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Tone & Language

• The tone is direct, combative, and often dismissive toward political opponents and the mainstream media, with a strong focus on conservative ideology and cultural critique.
• Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk adopt a mixture of seriousness and sarcasm; both freely use rhetorical flourishes, personal jabs, and unsparing language (e.g., “autogynephiles,” “muya stupido,” “dishonest jokes of faux journalists”).
• The atmosphere is one of pressing a counter-narrative to mainstream discussions on education, gender policy, and media integrity.

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Summary

This episode provides a deep dive into prominent conservative viewpoints on federal education policy, gender issues in public spaces, and media dynamics post-2024 election. Megyn Kelly’s high-profile guest appearance injects fierce criticism of both progressive gender ideology and perceived hypocrisy among media figures. The hour closes with sharp skepticism over media-reported allegations against a Fox News contributor, reinforcing a broader motif of distrust toward mainstream narratives. This reflects the program’s intent to inform and rally a conservative audience around current political and cultural disputes.

Transcript

[Megyn Kelly]

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I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's Voice. Headlines Outgoing Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell announces two changes for the upcoming Congress McConnell announced that Maine Senator Susan Collins will chair the Appropriations Committee and added that he will head the Senate Rules Committee. McConnell says that American defenses face grave threats and and new leadership has the responsibility to secure the US future. South Dakota Senator John Thune was elected to replace McConnell as Senate GOP leader in the next Congress and staying with the Senate. The other South Dakota Senator Mike Rounds announces legislation that would abolish the Department of Education. Rounds says the DOE has never educated a single student and it's long past time to end the department that causes more harm than good. Rounds also says he shares President Elect Trump's vision to get rid of the Education Department and can't wait to work with on this issue. Democratic Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey has called GOP challenger Dave McCormick to concede the race. Casey said he is grateful for the thousands of people who work to make sure every eligible vote was counted. The race was decided by about a quarter of a point. This now gives Republicans a 53 to 47 majority in the Senate. Texas Governor Greg Abbott has now ordered state agencies to sell Chinese assets. Abbott says that to any extent they have current investments in China, they are required to divest available opportunity. Texas has previously banned agencies from investing in pension funds that embrace environments, social and governance beliefs. The state has also cracked down on China from owning land. Staying in Texas State Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing the city of Dallas over a marijuana ballot measure. The ballot measure reportedly prevents law enforcement from making arrests or giving citations for marijuana possession or even considering the scent of marijuana probable cause for searches and seizure. Paxton argues that would hamper police officers from enforcing the law. Grounds game Texas says it will keep people out of jail for marijuana possession. They also argue it would save the public millions of dollars. New York governor Kathy Hochul slams the decision to cut crossing hours at the northern border Hochul is calling on the Biden Harris administration to boost staffing at the northern border, which is seeing an increase of illegal crossings over the past year. Earlier this week, Customs and Border Protection announced that hours would be reduced at 38 crossing sites, which includes four in New York State. These reductions take place effective on January 6th. New York said it has sent $5 million in federal state homeland security funding to enhance northern border security efforts. Mexico says it is ready to receive Mexicans from the US should they be deported. The Mexican president says that they will show they do not have to deport illegal aliens and added that the US Actually benefits economically from immigrants. President elect Trump has vowed to conduct mass deportations and crack down on illegal immigration as soon as he takes office on January 20th. And this comes as two more caravans of illegal aliens are heading towards the southern border. As we speak, pollster Nate Silver is calling on Joe Biden to resign the presidency. Silver questions if there is any particular reason Biden should finish out his term and added that there are very high stakes decisions that need to be made so Kamala Harris should serve out the last two months. Biden withdrew from the election after his debate with President Elect Trump as questions about his capacity came up. A Los Angeles city councilman says they will not enforce President Elect Trump's deportation policies. Councilman Hugo Soto Martinez says that the federal government does have a lot of power over resources, but that they will not be collaborating with the, quote, deportation machine. He also says that it is important people feel empowered and they want to protect families. This comes after Los Angeles officially voted to become a sanctuary city. Meanwhile, home sales rose in October for the first time in three years. Officials say that existing home sales rose nearly 3% year over year, which is the first time since July of 2021. Home prices also rose for the 16th straight month to a median price of more than $407,000. People are still battling higher than average mortgage rates due to elevated interest rates. And finally, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Former talk show host Ellen DeGeneres is reportedly leaving the US after President elect Trump's win. The Wrap reports that DeGeneres is moving to England, and they reportedly bought the property just before the election. Several celebrities have vowed to leave the country after Trump won in 2016, but they stayed. The Illinois State Supreme Court has issued that Jussie Smollett's case be dismissed after a technicality for lying about a hate crime. Smollett's team argued that this was a technicality and that it should be dismissed, although Smollett said that he did not actually perpetrate a hate crime. That's your headlines. I'm Bo Davidson in Real America's Voice newsroom.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us, as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. There are a lot of questions about what is going to happen to the Department of Education. A lot of questions about it. Now, Linda McMahon has been selected, and she's a fighter. She's tough as the Secretary of Education, but President Trump made a promise repeatedly on the campaign trail that eventually we're going to phase out the Department of Education. You see, the same way that we send power back to the states, education should be done state by state. We need to decentralize the way that we educate our children. Why do we have a Department of Education as it is? Well, it's interesting. The Department of Education actually was a Splinter off of a. Education off of a program that actually was about health, education and welfare. It was the HEW Department. And they broke those into three different categories. Now, the US Department of Education, get this. How much money do you think the U.S. department of Education has every single year? What do you think their budget is? When you guys go through these numbers, it makes you just have shock and all. The Department of Education, I want you to, without googling, I want you to guess what their budget is. Their budget is $238 billion a year. Said differently, our Department of Education budget is triple the Russian military budget. Our Department of education has $240 billion a year. What results are we seeing from spending nearly $240 billion a year on education? Well, here's how it breaks down. So $28 billion of the budget was spent on Pell grants. $23 billion is on the federal Direct Student Loan program. So right there, Pell grants and student loan program. Send that over to the Department of Treasury. That does not need to be housed under the Department of Education, by the way, I think this is the old budget. I think this is all the way back from 2015. For the record, I'm just looking at this. The new budget, though, of fiscal year 2024 is $238 billion. So it's those numbers are even bigger yet. Our education is ranked so low across the world. We spend more on education than any other country. Where does all this money go? It goes towards paper shuffling bureaucrats and desk workers and subsidizing failed educational programs. In the Department of Education has the Office of Civil Rights, the Office of Educational Technology. They have the Office of Elementary and Secondary Education, the Office of English Language Acquisition, the Office of post secondary education. $127 million was spent just studying and countering Covid related speech. And so I would love to see if the Department of Education could undergo any sort of audit. So there's about 5,000 people that work for the Department of Education and it has a $238 billion budget. Has anyone thought to ask, has any Senate Republican decided to say why are we spending all of this money on this monolith, on this leviathan? Educational. Educational outputs have gone down dramatically. We have entire schools in the city of Baltimore where kids literally cannot read. We have dozens of schools where kids cannot read at grade level. And so you would have to ask the question, why is it that the Department Education exists in the first place? Obviously, we're all very, very pro education, but is it a protection racket? For the current college cartel, are kids pursuing goodness, truth and beauty? Are they learning about the deeper things? Are they studying the classics? Do they understand rhetoric and dialogue? How many kids can actually, if you lock them in a room without Internet connection, can write a four paragraph essay? How many? No, instead we should send it back to the parents, we should send it back to the local level, send it back to the states and different states will. States will do it differently. The federal government has no business whatsoever being in the education of our children. And here is why. Education is the most personal of all the things. Because education goes all the way down to the development of the soul of the child. It goes down to the development of the, of the, of the character, which literally comes from a Greek word which means tattoo of the student. The only effect the Department of Education has had is to inflate cost completely across the board. Not to mention they come in and allow men in women's locker rooms. Not to mention they come in and push critical race theory. It is a top down edict and directive. With tens of billions of dollars into your local school district. And have you seen your schools rapidly improve? So this was always the argument of the educational cartel, the National Education association and the American Federation of Teachers. We just have to spend more money and our kids will do better. So the budget for the Department of education in 2011 was $70 billion. That was 13 years ago. Now it's $240 billion. So it's gone up by nearly three and a half times. So the Department of Education has nearly tripled in size. The Department of Education has tripled in size in the last 13 years. And are we seeing more kids proficient in math, understanding of core topics, who love their country, that have civic literacy? Of course not. Meanwhile, we went from number one in education to the 25th in education. How's that for an ROI? So where is this money going? And no one can ever answer that question. Well, it goes to Pell grants and federal student loans. We should stop taxpayer subsidizing of student loans, by the way. We should put it back in the private markets. If you want to go study North African lesbian poetry, then you are going to have to go justify to some banker why the bank should underwrite your loan. But if you want to study engineering, if you want to become a doctor or a lawyer, well then the bank can make a good argument. Okay, we'll give you a 5% interest rate. And when Doge comes a knocking and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy start asking the obvious question. What do you do here? What do you do here? The Department of Education, run by Miguel Cardona has been one of the most bloated, fastest growing bureaucracies over the last couple of years. And if you look at, if you look even a little bit deeper into the Department of Education, just a little bit, if you count pell grants, Title 1 Work Assistance and all the other affiliated cabinet on just grants, according to this article, it is $237 billion just on that. Now what we need Congress to do is to reauthorize the Presidential Reorganization act and break apart the Department of Education. If there's duplicative tight measures and as Ronald Reagan has said, the most terrifying words from the government are I'm from the government and I'm here to help the government. The federal government should have no role in your kids education. It should start with parents, community, school boards, localities, and if necessary, state. The federal government has failed miserably in this regard. It needs to be deleted, broken apart and brought back to the ultimate micro the development of a child's soul, character and values. The US Spends more per pupil than most developed nations, including many that score on better. And Megan Kelly joins us in a relieffactor.com, knee pain, back pain, joint pain, elbow pain. Check it out right now@ relieffactor.com the 100% drug free relief factor can get you out of pain today. Relief factor is amazing. 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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm.

[Carol Markowitz]

And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.

[Carol Markowitz]

That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.

[Carol Markowitz]

We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday.

[Carol Markowitz]

And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Bo Davidson]

I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's Voice. Headline the Illinois State Supreme Court overturns Jussie Smollett's conviction for lying about a hate crime. Smollett's team argued that a special prosecutor should not have been allowed to intervene in the case after the Cook county state attorney dropped the charges. Smollett claimed two men assaulted him and shouted racist and homophobic slurs at him and put a noose around his neck. Texas Governor Greg Abbott has now ordered state agencies to sell Chinese assets. Abbott says that to any extent they have current investments in China, they are required to divest at the first available opportunity. Texas has previously banned agencies from investing in pension funds that embrace environment's social and governance beliefs. The state has also cracked down on China from owning land. Democratic Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey has called GOP challenger Dave McCormick to concede the race. Casey said he is grateful for the thousands of people who worked to make sure every eligible vote was counted. The race was decided by only a quarter of a point. This now gives Republicans a 53 to 47 majority in the Senate. Russia reportedly warned the Biden Harris administration of a ballistic missile strike on Ukraine yesterday. A Biden administration official tells Semafor that they were notified briefly before the strike, and Russia says that time was about 30 minutes before the missile was launched. Those are your headlines. Back to the Charlie Kirk SHOW right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk show. Megan Kelly joins us. Megan, great to see you. And I haven't stopped smiling for the last two and a half weeks. And I don't plan to stop anytime soon. Megan, great to see you. I want to dive into this story with Nancy Mace. What is a woman? Seems to be the ultimate question that the Democrats can't answer. Meghan, welcome to the program. And walk us through what's happening on Capitol Hill.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, it's great to be here. It's great to see you. And I feel the same. I felt elated since he won. And the things just keep getting better, you know, watching Joe and Mika slither into Mar A Lago, like begging to be relevant again. Please don't hold it against us that we called you a racist and a rapist and a fascist. We really just want to be in the center. All of this is so delicious. It's like we just keep winning. So it's awesome. But what's happening with Nancy Mace is. It's kind of interesting, Charlie, because not, you realize, not everybody's been paying attention to all this gender insanity. And Nancy Mace is conservative, she's from South Carolina. But I guess this hasn't been, you know, in her face for a while and now it's come, you know, right to Capitol Hill and she's having to deal with the issues that you and I talk about all the time. So they elected out of Delaware a man who poses as a woman to the U. S. Congress. And Tim is his so called dead name. And now he's going by, I don't remember the. The new fake names is Susanna McBride. Whatever. So now he wants us to believe he's a woman and he's going to Capitol Hill. And there's a question of which bathroom this man is going to use. And Nancy May said, well, he, he shouldn't be in my bathroom. He shouldn't be in the women's bathroom. And actually there should be a rule set out by the speaker saying he should use. Everybody should use the bathroom that corresponds with their biological sex. And then this person McBride and everyone on the left started melting down, calling her a bully, saying how nasty she is. AOC was saying we're going to have to have genital inspections now before someone uses the restroom. This is so absurd and like such a trope. And they're trying to say that this is bigoted as opposed to a member a matter of women's rights. And Nancy Mace is sort of coming to life on this and getting her facts and learning all the things that we've been talking about, which is like the vast majority of so called trans people who are male to female are in fact autogynephiles. Meaning they have a sexual fetish. They get sexually aroused from dressing as women. And so there's a pretty decent chance that that man in a dress in the stall next to you is turned on by the fact that he's wearing that dress and he's next to you while you're doing your business. Minding your own business in a stall.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hard.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, but this is a fact. I mean this has been researched. Over 90% they say by at least some experts are autogynephiles in this trans community. So we really do need to have our defenses up. It's not to say all of them are, but mental disorders include gender dysphoria. I mean it's one of them. It's in the DSM 5. It's a mental disorder. So why would we be celebrating this? Why would we be opening the door for this to walk into our women's rooms where we're most vulnerable. And long story short, Nancy Mace has already won this fight because Speaker Johnson already issued a rule saying all over Capitol Hill we're not having men in women's bathrooms, period.

[Charlie Kirk]

This should not be controversial. Non binary activist Evan Greer just interrupted and harassed Nancy Mace on a stage. I mean you know how nasty these people can become. Let's play cut 86.

[Bo Davidson]

Ridiculous. It is the day after trans day of visibility. We have had dozens of trans people die this year because of the hate and lies that we are spreading. And if you want to Internet legal we Internet free speech for everyone or.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just a privileged few.

[Bo Davidson]

Are you going to stand up to the lives of trans people?

[Charlie Kirk]

Black and brown people?

[Bo Davidson]

Are we fighting for justice or are we fighting for big tech? How are we fighting for justice here?

[Megyn Kelly]

So that his penis isn't going to be in my bathroom. So right on.

[Charlie Kirk]

One minute. Megan, please react to that.

[Megyn Kelly]

She's 100% right. And that man just wants attention. And he. What he really wants is to have access to my private spaces and Nancy Mace's private spaces. And it's a no sir, there's a place for you. It's called the men's room and frankly a shrink's office. That's where you belong. You're obviously not well. It's Trans day of remembrance. And then the next day is the Trans Day of visibility. And then the next day is the Trans Day of I don't Kumba. Who gives? I'm done with your trans days. This is not something to be celebrated the same way we wouldn't celebrate somebody with anorexia or schizophrenia. This is a disorder. These people are not well. They need help and they need our empathy over the, you know, what they're obviously going through. But they are not entitled to our participation in their delusions, and they were certainly not entitled to our participation in their sexual fetish. And I am sick and tired of these men who throw on a woman's wig or a woman's dress and then want to lecture women about what bigots and bullies we are because we don't want them in our spaces.

[Charlie Kirk]

Megan Kelly we have a long segment coming up in just a second. Stay right there. Be right back.

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm.

[Carol Markowitz]

And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.

[Carol Markowitz]

That's why we started Normalely, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.

[Carol Markowitz]

We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday.

[Carol Markowitz]

And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Bo Davidson]

I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's voice. Headlines the 30 year fixed mortgage rate is approaching 7% and it has also hit a four month high. Officials say it has now hit 6.84%, which is the highest level since July. However, mortgage rates are down from the 7.29% it was at this time last year. The Fed has already cut interest rates twice since September and Treasury yields have risen. The chairman of the securities and Exchange Commission, Gary Gensler, will step down once President Elect Trump takes office on January 20th. Gensler thanked Joe Biden for trusting him with the job, and the SEC met its mission and enforced the law without favor. Gensler aimed to reduce systemic risks and work out conflicts of interest on Wall Street. He was confirmed in 2021. Meanwhile, President elect Trump's incoming border czar Tom Homan, says the administration will use the land Texas offered for mass deportations of illegal aliens. Homan says that the illegal aliens have to be detained for a short time while they get travel documents from their host country and secure flights along with other logistics. The state offered 1400 acres of land for various facilities. Warner Bros. Discovery announces HBO Max added more than 7 million new subscribers the company says this is the largest single quarter increase for the streaming platform. However, the company announced it did experience a revenue decrease by 4% compared to this time last year. HBO Max has been performing well as more and more people cut the cord on cable. New York Governor Kathy Hochul slams the decision to cut crossing hours at the northern border. Hochul is calling on the Biden Harris administration to boost staffing at the northern border, which is seeing an increase of illegal crossings over the past year. Earlier this week, Customs and Border Protection announced that hours would be reduced at 38 crossing sites, which includes four in New York State. These reductions take place effective on January 6th. New York said it has sent $5 million in federal state homeland security funding to enhance northern border security efforts. Mexico says it is ready to receive Mexicans from the US should they be deported. The Mexican president says that they will show they do not have to deport illegal aliens and added that the US Actually benefits economically from immigrants. President Elect Trump has vowed to conduct mass deportations and crack down on illegal immigration as soon as he takes office on January 20th. And this comes as two more caravans of illegal aliens are heading towards the the southern border as we speak. I'm Beau Davidson with your headlines. Now back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie Kirk is a terrific person.

[Bo Davidson]

He's mainstream conservative, but solid as a rock.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Megyn Kelly]

No, it's not. I mean, you had. I'll give you one example. Katie Couric, who for some reason has decided to eschew makeup, which is not a good idea, is out there. Like, it's just so mean. And by the way, if you're going to get rid of the makeup and also the hair, the, the idea is not to then take your phone, hold it right here, and do little videos. No one wants to see that. Especially for women of a certain age, which I am one of them, so I'm allowed to say it. Secondly, she's out there. She's such a bully. This is just mean what Nancy Mace is doing. She still doesn't get it. She's got two daughters and she still doesn't get it because her whole life is surrounded she in leftists who think like she does and who give, you know, kudos and props to women who say Nancy Mace is a bully and that you're a bully too if you don't support the trans community. This is the same Katie Couric who told Bill Maher a few months ago that Trump voters are anti intellectual and now post his victory is out there saying, you know, I really just think these Democrats, they're just too elitist and they're just too insulting. Hello, preacher, heal thyself first. So this is the circle that she runs in. And she's not alone. Most of these Democrats have been told for years now that you're mean if you don't allow these men posing as women into your bathroom. Look at that guy on CNN who went off on Shermichael Singleton, who was a. He's a more moderate conservative who was trying to say, boy shouldn't be in girl sports, right? And that guy went off on him saying, we are not going to be transphobic at this table. We are not going. What did he do? He said, these are biological boys. He wouldn't refer to them as trans girls. Neither will I, neither should anyone. There's no such thing as a trans girl or a trans woman. There are only girls and women. And they require no setup. You don't have to say biological. You don't have to say real. We're certainly not saying Cisco. If I say girl or woman, you know exactly what it means. And that's how the language must be treated in general. Because take a look at this bathroom situation on Capitol Hill. How do we say she cannot come into the women's bathrooms, she cannot come into the women's locker rooms? You've already lost the fight if you seed the language battle, which is what that guy on CNN was trying to make happen, what. What Katie Couric wants to see happen. And until the rest of us all stand up and say no, we'll continue losing right now. We won. We won. This was the number one issue according to a Democrat survey of swing state voters in the swing states. In just the swing states alone, this was the number one issue, the trans issue. And so it's great. If the Democrats don't want to come on board, fine, keep losing. Either way, we win. We either win because you've bent the knee, as you should, or we win because you won't and you go down and we continue winning and you continue losing. Take your pick.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to play the AOC clip.

[Bo Davidson]

Who?

[Charlie Kirk]

I have a prediction. She's going to try to make a run for the presidency in 2028. I know people think that's a little outrageous, but we'll see. Let's play cut 91.

[AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)]

What Nancy Mace and what Speaker Johnson are doing are endangering all women and girls because if you ask them what is your plan on how to enforce this, they won't come up with an answer. And what it inevitably results in are women and girls who are primed for assault because they want. Because people are going to want to check their private parts in suspecting who is trans and who is CIS and who's doing what. And so the idea that Nancy Mace wants little girls and women to drop trout in front of who? An investigator? Who would that that be in order because she wants to suspect and point fingers at who she thinks is trans is disgusting. It is disgusting.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay? And I know this is so silly. However, Megan, I think it's helpful to our audience for you to address this very weak objection head on because it is something that is commonly said by the. The purple haired jihadis.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, well, let me put it in terms that she can understand. Sandy, this is muya stupido. This is a very dumb point. It's a lie. It's a straw man. And what she may not Be aware is she's repeating like a weird piece of trans porn. Because in these trans forums online, this is a thing that some of these guys who have, who are autogynophiles who get off. I'm picturing themselves as women like to fantasize about. They love to picture themselves getting their genitals inspected before they go into the women's room. Like a real woman who's been me too'd, who has to pick up her skirt and show her. Let me tell you something, that there is a very tiny percentage of the population that actually has gender dysphoria. They tend to be more effeminate men who their whole lives have been more effeminate and who genuinely feel like they were born in the wrong body. The last thing they would ever want or get off on is the idea of somebody looking at their male bodies underneath the skirt. They want to hide that they are not like Leah Thomas, who as a man who is Will, two months earlier, now he's Leah trying to swim against Riley Gaines, parades through the women's locker room with his full Johnson exposed. That's not what an actual gender dysphoric person would ever want. So in these weird chat rooms, they get off on the thought of somebody actually giving them the inspection because they're autogynephiles. And aoc, who knows nothing about anything, decides to repeat this weird, sick fantasy as something that's going to happen in order to try to take the moral high ground of it will in fact happen. And little girls and women are now going to be subjected to strip searches before they use the ladies room on Capitol Hill. Utter lie, stupid lie. And I'd love to know what chat room she's been in.

[Charlie Kirk]

So. So, speaking of people who go in places where they don't belong, Mika and Joe went to Mar a Lago recently. We have your very viral take. Let's play cut 84.

[Megyn Kelly]

Have with all presidents.

[Charlie Kirk]

Don't be mistaken. We're not here to defend or normalize Donald Trump. We're here to report on him.

[Megyn Kelly]

I searched for a way to respond appropriately and I called on my 10 years as a litigator in addition to my now 20 as a journalist. And I think I found the perfect phrase. Go yourselves, go yourselves, you dishonest jokes of faux journalists.

[Charlie Kirk]

Megan, please elaborate.

[Megyn Kelly]

I just, I love how desperate they are to retain any connection to power. And look, I, I think I understand why Trump had them come there. Allowed it. I think, number one, Trump likes to be covered in the news. He always has. That's how he rose to fame. So if he can get good coverage out of these two, fine. Rosa cost him to sit with them for an hour. Number two, I think he enjoyed seeing them, you know, brought to heel. And that's the piece of it I kind of enjoyed, too. Like, why shouldn't they slither into Mar A Lago and beg him for attention after all they've done to him? It's humiliating what they did. They humiliated themselves. However, literally nobody wanted to see this, this reunion, this Come to Jesus. Nobody. Nobody. Not. Not any Republican. I mean, well, I didn't want to see this. I don't want to see them make up. I don't want to see them get forgiveness from Trump. And I hope he didn't give it. They don't deserve it. I mean, it's not just fascist and Hitler, as I said before, it's. He's a rapist. That's what they've been saying about Trump, that he's a rapist and a racist and a bigot and misogynist who's getting women killed and will continue. That's what Morning Joe I am in the media. I follow this very closely. That's what they've been saying about him. So why should they get an audience with him and why should they ever get his forgiveness or relationship with him? So that's number one. But number two, it's been hilarious to watch their ratings go even further down the bowl. They, they suffered more than a 20 drop off just from Monday to Tuesday because people were so angry that they did this on the left who watched that show hard left. They don't want to see a makeup with Trump. The reason they do it is, is this. They desperately need ratings and they desperately need access to power. He loved that Joe Biden watched his show. That's why he went out there in March, just a few months before the June debate, and said, best Joe Biden ever. Ever. He's better than ever. And he's doing somersaults backstage. You just can't see it when he stumbles out on stage. And then the debate happened. And the next day he had to admit, okay, maybe he needs to step down. Then after a week of pressure, he reversed himself again. Well, maybe he can do it. People are being too hard on him. The man's like Sybil, that crazy multiple personality character played by Sally field in the 60s. He's, he's, I mean, just wherever the wind blows. Then Kamala comes on board. She's the greatest thing ever. Her messaging is right on The Democrats are the only ones speaking sense. Then she gets crushed by Trump, comes out the next day. I've been trying to tell everybody the trans thing is a loser. I've been saying it on this show for years. Why does it. He'll say anything, anything to try to look like he's in control and in power and with the right messaging. And that will include going to Mar a Lago and humiliating himself. It's like what people used to do to their dogs when they would soil the carpet and they take the back of their head and make them bury their nose in the crap so that they wouldn't do it again. That's what he just did to himself at Mar a Lago. And it's somewhat amusing to watch, but it's also so pathetic.

[Charlie Kirk]

It is. And it's just, what do you think? President Trump made the right move to welcome in. I can kind of see it. It's like, I won, you guys lost. Come into my, you know, come to my home. About a minute remaining. What is your take on that, Megan?

[Megyn Kelly]

No, I wish he hadn't done. Just makes them be able to go out there now and suggest they've got insider information on Trumpet. It almost lends credibility to their opinions on Trump. Like they might have inside info, which almost certainly they will not. And it's going to go south again. You know, maybe Trump likes that, having them as a foil and he likes the storyline of Up Again, Down Again. But me, personally, I wish he had not taken the call and I wish he had relegated them to the basement with their ratings where they will sit for quite some time now.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Megan Ketley continues with us. Email us freedom charliekirk.com that is freedom charliekirk.com so, Megan, I now want your reaction to some of these accusations being thrown at my friend Pete Hegseth. And I'm sure that you've I don't know if you've gotten along with him or not in the past, but I mean, he has a great reputation among many people. What do you make of this smear campaign against Pete Hegseth?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, no, I knew Pete well when I was at Fox. I'm the reason he became a FOX News contributor. He was coming on for free. And my executive producer And I went to Roger and we said, you've got to hire this guy. He's incredible. And he did get hired. So I loved Pete and I thought he was great. I don't recommend marrying Pete Hegseth. I'm going to be honest. Like, looking at his marital history, it's not an example of fidelity. Okay? So I'm just going to be honest and admit that up front. However, having difficulty in one's personal relationships, especially after having served two tours, which it's not uncommon for these vet vets to come back and not be able to navigate their love lives all that well, is much different than being a rapist. And this woman's story smells terribly. Now, I went through that police report line by line. I mean, I've got it right here in front of me, Charlie. It's like you can see the amount of time I spent with this thing with the tabs and the highlighting and, and you know, your audience may know. I practiced law for 10 years, was a litigator, was a trial lawyer. This woman's story smells. And if you read the media coverage about this allegation, let me tell you, you will not learn the facts that I'm about to give you. You will learn that they were together at some conference in Monterey back in 2017, October. And that she's alleging that he may have given her a date rape drug and raped her. And that he's alleging it was consensual affair. And that later, a few years later, he paid her off to stay silent when she began to rattle his cage about a possible lawsuit against him. What you will see in this police report is that she was at a bar with him after the event. Her husband and children were down the hotel room hall. They were there too. She was with her husband and children, two of them. And she was at this bar with Pete after the event at which he spoke. She was part of the Republican Women's conference that others said she was flirting with him, she was touching his leg, etc, flirting with him. That he seemed to be more focused on a. Focused on a different woman, not this one. That Pete would let her later tell the police he never even had it as a thought in his mind that he would hook up with this woman who apparently he didn't have any interest in. But then this woman escorted him out of the bar and was. Was going back to his hotel room with him. And at 1:30 in the morning, she was seen on videotape, which the police reviewed and reported the following facts about. She was fine. She wasn't stumbling. She he was. He looked drunk. And security had been called on him because they had had some sort of a fight at 1:30 in the morning out by the pool that led two hotel guests to call and say, could you quiet them down? Now, first of all, that's totally inappropriate. She told cops they were arguing over his treatment of women. What? You're supposed to be his handler for the conference and you're getting into a personal argument with him over his treatment of women so loud and belligerent that hotel guests are calling security. You've crossed a line. You're behaving inappropriately, madam, she says, and so do the other guests that saw her in the bar beforehand. That she had one drink, one champagne, the police say, and an eyewitness who saw her in the bar, two eyewitnesses who saw her in the bar and the hotel security guy who came to tell them to be quiet by the pool. All say she was fine. She wasn't intoxicated, she wasn't stumbling, she wasn't slurring. Pete was drunk. She was fine. The videotape then shows them leaving the pool and going back to his hotel. And it shows them approaching the pool from 1:15am to 1:30am Their arms are locked like a boyfriend and girlfriend might be. She's smiling. She does not appear drunk. So as as a 1:15 and then 1:30, she's locking arms with him, she's smiling. She does not appear drunk to four witnesses who lay eyes on her, either in person or via videotape, including the police. She goes back to his hotel room sometime between 1:30 and 2am she is texting her husband during this time. She sounds totally fine in these texts. She does not sound like she is intoxicated or out of her mind at all. And then the texts shut down and she has an unaccounted for period from 2am to 4am the husband calls her twice during that time period. The husband gets out of bed to go check the hotel bar, looking for his wife, wondering where the hell she is. There's no one in the bar called Knuckles in the Hyatt Regency. He goes back home to the room. At 3:40, he tries her again. He says she arrives back home to the hotel room at 4am she's fine. She's not stumbling, she's not slurring. When was she drugged? When? When was she drugged? Did Pete get her back to the hotel room? Flipper a Mickey at 2am Take advantage of her, and then at 4am Got her back to her hotel room totally fine because the witnesses before and after the time frame say she was fine.

[Charlie Kirk]

Gotta run.

[Megyn Kelly]

A co worker at 4 the next day said she wasn't hungover.

[Charlie Kirk]

What a great summary, Megan. Thank you so much. Another spare campaign. I I think this one smells to high heaven. It's a cabinet 2.0. Megan. God bless you. Thank you so much and see you soon. Be right back. Everybody.

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