The Charlie Kirk Show, November 26, 2025

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Real America’s Voice: The Charlie Kirk Show

Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Andrew Colvett (with Blake Neff and Daisy Phelps)
Episode Theme: Thanksgiving Reflections, Trump Era Legal Drama, and Ukraine Peace Negotiations

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Main Theme and Purpose

This pre-Thanksgiving episode of The Charlie Kirk Show focuses on three main threads:

• The collapse of major legal cases against Donald Trump and their broader implications
• Breaking analysis of a leaked Ukraine-Russia peace negotiation involving a Trump envoy
• Exploring themes of thankfulness and gratitude, both personal and national, in light of political and cultural developments

The show balances political news with the show’s annual Thanksgiving gratitude tradition and an audience-engagement “No Dumb Questions” segment tackling listener queries on Ukraine, crime, and global Christian persecution.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. *Collapse of Georgia Trump Prosecution and Legal Case Retrospective

[12:11–16:39]

• Fani Willis Case Collapses:
  The much-publicized Georgia prosecution (the “Fani Willis case”) against Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and others is dropped, which the hosts frame as emblematic of many “politically motivated” legal attacks on Trump.

  • “This is a fitting end, but kind of a whimper in what was a main, huge story of 2024.” – Andrew Colvett [12:59]
  • “All of the Trump criminal cases were ultimately like this. Even the one where he got convicted—huge problems with it.” – Blake Neff [15:18]

• Pattern of Legal Overreach:
  The hosts assert the indictments are either "formidable but flawed" or "politically motivated," likening the cycle of revelations and retractions to media “walls are closing in” memes.

  • “They bring up these cases that are half-baked, they're entirely politically motivated, and they go down to an embarrassing defeat.” – Blake Neff [15:34]

2. *Leaked Ukraine-Russia Peace Plan and Foreign Policy Backlash

[16:39–21:45 | 23:25–27:09]

• Coverage of the Leaked Call:
  The show examines a Bloomberg report on a leaked call between Trump envoy Steve Witkoff and Putin advisor Yuri Ushakov, sparking media claims of undue Kremlin influence.

  • “I instantly want to ask cui bono? Who benefits?” – Andrew Colvett [16:39]

• Negotiation as Standard Practice:
  The hosts defend Witkoff’s reported coaching of Russians as ordinary real-estate-style dealmaking—a “standard form of negotiation” for Trump’s team.

  • “Trump is a guy who likes Witkoff because Witkoff negotiates the way I think Trump likes to make deals.” – Blake Neff [19:57]

• Media, Intel, and 2019 Parallels:
  Discussion of the leak’s origins ("foreign policy establishment more outraged at a possible peace deal than they are that our intelligence is getting leaked to Bloomberg") segues into comparisons with the 2019 Ukraine “Vindman leak,” whistleblowers, and the intelligence community’s adversarial power.

  • “The foreign policy establishment is more outraged at a possible peace deal than [at] our intelligence getting leaked.” – Andrew Colvett [25:18]
  • “They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” – Chuck Schumer (clip) [29:51]

• Peace Plan Analysis:
  The original 28-point plan, described as "realistic," would have Ukraine cede territory to Russia under a broader non-aggression pact. European counterproposals avoid cession and offer stronger guarantees for Ukraine.

  • “The 28-point [plan] is much more pragmatic and probably realistic where this is going to finally end.” – Andrew Colvett [18:16]
  • “The biggest winners... would be the Ukrainian people, who are not conscripted and fed into a meat grinder so Washington can feel good about themselves.” – Blake Neff [73:19]

3. *Media Smears and Political Hostility

[38:41–43:53]

• Joy Reid and Conspiracy Theorizing:
  The hosts respond to a viral left-wing media segment speculating about J.D. Vance’s wife and alleged plots—portraying it as “projection” and “disgusting.”

  • “It is a true insight into the spiritual core of the Left.” – Andrew Colvett [41:34]
  • “Joy Reid is as hideous on the inside as on the outside.” – Blake Neff [43:53]

• Personal Gratitude for Conservative Allies:
  The show thanks public conservative figures for support after the loss of Charlie Kirk and contextualizes the media discussion in terms of shared personal grief and resilience.

4. *Reflections on Gratitude and Political Achievements

[43:53–52:45]

• Thankfulness as a Discipline:
  Discussing why gratitude is especially important amid difficulties—both personal and national. Reflections honor Charlie Kirk’s legacy of focusing on gratitude even when under fire.

  • “Charlie modeled for all of us, gratitude and Thanksgiving and always looking up to God.” – Andrew Colvett [52:49]

• Trump’s Achievements Since Return to Office:
  The hosts review positive changes since the Trump administration’s return:

  • Stopping mass illegal border crossings and expanding ICE hiring.

  • Progress on peace and ceasefires (Israel-Gaza, Russia-Ukraine).

  • Repealing executive orders on DEI and “affirmative action” quotas; confronting campus antisemitism.

  • De-woke-ifying the military and universities.

  • Closing transgender clinics and ending “gender ideology” policies in government.

  • “We had a complete, wide open border... and overnight. Close the door. President Trump closed the door. We don't have an open border anymore.” – Blake Neff [45:00]

  • “He repealed orders going all the way back to LBJ that mandated DEI... He sweeps these things away.” – Blake Neff [47:37]

  • “He got rid of those dumb Biden-era names on all of our military bases.” – Andrew Colvett [49:07]

• Economic Improvements:
  Citing declining core inflation, lower egg and gas prices, tariffs bringing in $31B, and “onshoring” of manufacturing as further reasons for gratitude.

5. *No Dumb Questions: Ukraine in Focus and Listener Queries

[68:16–110:02+ (Hour 2)]

• Explainer: Ukraine, Russia, and NATO
  Daisy Phelps acts as an audience surrogate, asking foundational questions about the origins of the Ukraine war, NATO, the breakup of the USSR, and the 28-point peace plan.

  • “Why are we allies with Ukraine?” – Daisy Phelps [81:25]

  • Discussion covers:

    • Ukrainian history, borders, and Soviet Union collapse.
    • Nature of Russia’s claims on Ukraine
    • NATO expansion and its rationale
    • Geography and strategic assets like Crimea and Ukraine’s “breadbasket” role.

• Crime, National Guard, and Law and Order:
  A listener asks about the impact and permanence of National Guard deployments in crime-ridden cities.

  • The answer frames policing cycles (tough on crime to “decarceration”), manipulation of crime stats, and the cultural need for a strong law-and-order mindset.
  • “So much of the public debate now nowadays is between chaos and order... Democrats seem to love it.” – Andrew Colvett [97:13]

• Judicial Appointments, the “Blue Slip” Process, and Courts:
  Another listener question leads to an explainer on how the “blue slip” process shapes federal judicial appointments, with calls to reform it for more conservative appointments.

• Global Christian Persecution:
  Listener Ben inquires about persecution of Christians in Africa.

  • The hosts highlight Trump’s policies on designations and potential intervention, background on Boko Haram, Islamic-Christian demographics in Nigeria and Ethiopia, and the biblical history of Ethiopian Christianity.
  • “Charlie would oppose more US boots on the ground... but he would like that... America does treat the survival of Christians as a priority abroad.” – Blake Neff [109:49]

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “There is a lot to be thankful for. You do not have President Kamala Harris.” – Andrew Colvett [44:19]
• “All the Trump criminal cases were ultimately like this. Even the one where he got convicted, huge problems with it.” – Blake Neff [15:18]
• “The foreign policy establishment is more outraged at a possible peace deal than [at] our intelligence getting leaked.” – Andrew Colvett [25:18]
• “The biggest winners of all would be the Ukrainian people, who are not conscripted and fed into a meat grinder so that Washington can feel good about themselves.” – Blake Neff [73:19]
• “Charlie modeled for all of us, gratitude and Thanksgiving and always looking up to God.” – Andrew Colvett [52:49]
• “So much of the public debate now nowadays is between chaos and order... Democrats seem to love it.” – Andrew Colvett [97:13]
• “We have Vice President J.D. Vance. We don't have Charlie anymore. We have... one of his best friends in politics ... such a worthy standard bearer for the cause.” – Blake Neff [59:28]
• "Joy Reid is as hideous on the inside as on the outside." – Blake Neff [43:53]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Beginning of core show (skip ads) | 11:14 | | Georgia Trump Case Collapses | 12:11–16:39 | | Ukraine-Russia Peace Deal, Leaked Call | 16:39–21:45 | | Intelligence Community, 2019 Parallels | 25:18–30:59 | | Thanksgiving and Trump Administration Recap | 43:53–52:45 | | Ukraine Peace Plan Explainer ("No Dumb Qs") | 68:16–77:48 | | Crime, National Guard, and Law & Order | 89:07–98:36 | | Blue Slip/Judicial Appointments | 98:40–101:56 | | Global Christian Persecution | 105:06–109:49 |

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Flow and Tone

The show blends brisk, sometimes wry conservative commentary with earnest analysis and moments of warmth—especially when reflecting on loss, gratitude, and the legacy of Charlie Kirk. It maintains a conversational, occasionally irreverent style, welcoming audience engagement through Q&A.

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This summary covers the main political, cultural, and human themes of the episode, equipping new listeners with context, insight, and memorable discussion from “The Charlie Kirk Show – Thanksgiving Special (Nov 26, 2025).”

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The President of the United States has been impeached for now, only the third time in history.

[Andrew Colvett]

We are here today because Donald J. Trump, the 45th president of the United.

[Blake Neff]

States, abused the power of his office.

[Andrew Colvett]

The American presidency, for his political and personal benefit.

[Terrence Bates]

To effectuate this scheme, President Trump withheld two official acts of vital importance to a nation at war with our adversary, Vladimir Putin's Russia. The President withheld a White House meeting that Ukraine desperately sought to bolster its standing on the world stage. And even more perniciously, President Trump suspended hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid approved by this Congress to coerce Ukraine into doing his electoral dirty work. To withhold that for no good reason other than help with the political campaign made no sense.

[Andrew Colvett]

It was.

[Terrence Bates]

It was counterproductive to all of what we had been trying to do. My worst fear of how our Ukraine policy could play out was playing out how this was likely to have significant implications for US national security.

[Daisy Phelps]

He was being involved in a domestic political errand and we were being involved in national security, foreign policy. And those two things had just diverged.

[Andrew Colvett]

I then heard President Trump ask, so he's going to do the investigation. Ambassador Sondland replied that he's going to do it, adding that President Zelensky will do anything you ask him to do. Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously with regard to.

[Blake Neff]

The requested White House call and the.

[Andrew Colvett]

White House meeting, the answer is yes.

[Terrence Bates]

This crack is a quid pro quo.

[Blake Neff]

It is funding will not flow unless.

[Terrence Bates]

The investigation into the Democratic server happened as well.

[Blake Neff]

We do that all the time with foreign policy.

[Terrence Bates]

And when the president got caught, he committed his second impeachable act, obstruction of Congress of the very ability to make sure that no one is above the law, not even the President of the United States. The evidence is every bit as strong that President Trump has obstructed Congress fully. Without precedent and without basis in law. The president and his men plot on. The danger persists. The risk is real. Our democracy is at peril. Well, I would think that if they were honest about it, that sort of major investigation into the Biden, it's a very simple answer. They should investigate the Biden.

[Andrew Colvett]

And by the way, likewise, China should.

[Terrence Bates]

Start an investigation into the Biden.

[Blake Neff]

Rudy Giuliani telling CNN's Dana Bash that.

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As part of a bid to keep digging for dirt on President Trump's political rival. And I have news for everybody.

[Terrence Bates]

Get over it.

[Blake Neff]

There's going to be political influence in foreign policy.

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What is at risk here is the very idea of America. That idea holds that we are a nation of laws, not of men. We are a nation that believes in a rule, rule of law. When we say we uphold the Constitution, we are not talking about a piece of parchment. We're talking about a beautiful architecture in which ambition is set against ambition, in which no branch of government can dominate.

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Another the Trump administration is releasing what.

[Blake Neff]

The President describes as the transcript of.

[Andrew Colvett]

That phone call that launched the Democrats impeachment investigation.

[Terrence Bates]

The big thing that everybody was talking about was that there was a quid pro quo. There is no explicit quid pro quo. That language or even that suggestion exists nowhere in this. In this document.

[Blake Neff]

The president did not say investigate Joe Biden if you want your money.

[Andrew Colvett]

There are not multiple references as widely.

[Blake Neff]

Reported to the former vice president.

[Andrew Colvett]

Is this a big bowl of nothing?

[Terrence Bates]

I don't see a tie to the money.

[Daisy Phelps]

People we talked to said the president didn't make any remarks about aid and he doesn't.

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It was actually President Zelinsky of Ukraine.

[Blake Neff]

Who first brought up outreach to Rudy Giuliani.

[Terrence Bates]

It's another media disaster. I think this is one of the worst weeks in the history of the fake news media. You have been wrong on so many things.

[Blake Neff]

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[Andrew Colvett]

Here we go. All right. Happy Wednesday. It's the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Blake Neff. It is the day before Thanksgiving Thanksgiving. Yeah. We have a lot to be thankful for this, this year, in spite of the tragedy, in spite of the loss. And I think, Blake, you said it best. Even, especially in the midst of what's been a really rough season, we have to practice the discipline of being thankful, being grateful for the mercies of God, the blessings of God Almighty, and we will do that in this show. We are going to spend probably the second half of this hour doing that. First, we've got a couple breaking news stories that we want to get to. Then in hour two, we're going to do a, a really kind of fun segment with Daisy. Daisy's going to join us. No dumb questions.

[Blake Neff]

And we should have questions from our, from the audience.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Blake Neff]

Mix of those. So you can actually start get sending those in now. And we, we'll, we'll keep an eye.

[Andrew Colvett]

Out for no dumb question segment. I love that. And it's, it's very of the, there are no dumb questions. There's a lot of things that we kind of will talk over sometimes and assume that the audience understands what we're talking about. Not that we're smarter or in some ways more intelligent. It's just that we're covering this stuff every day. We're following, tracking it. Sometimes you might have questions. You're like, hey, start at point one. So first big breaking news story this morning, Blake Neff. The state of Georgia is basically refusing or declining to pursue its case, the Fanny Willis case against Donald J. Trump, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman and many others. This is a fitting end, but kind of a whimper in what was a main, huge story of 2024.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I wanted us to start with this because I think it actually perfectly encapsulates the life arc of a lot of things we've lived through in the Trump era. There's. How many times have the walls been closing in? About, you know, 50,000 different times. There was, there was a meme video of the walls are closing in. How often they said it in, I think 2016 or early 2017. And it's just been the same way ever since. So when Trump was out of office, they waited a few years. They didn't do anything initially. And then suddenly 2023, they thought, let's roll out all of these indictments of Trump Manhattan in Georgia. And then the two federal cases. Yeah. Then of course, yeah, the business case, Carol case. All of these things to take him down. And a lot of them, they'll superficially look formidable. You know, he's got four different criminal Indictments and all these civil cases, and what has always stood out to me is how every single one of them has some insane flaw. Either unprecedented use of the law of law and law, a total novel reinterpretation. I remember, remember this case, the Fulton county case. It included in the indictment that as part of his conspiracy to do various bad things, that Trump encouraged people to turn on oann to watch, I believe the Georgia legislature hold a hearing. That was part of the conspiracy. I believe another part of his conspiracy was encouraging was that he, like, called lawmakers. I believe he called lawmakers and urged them to vote a certain way on legislation, which I will observe is part of the First Amendment. Your right to petition lawmakers for redress of grievances. I believe that extends to the president. They had things like this. And then, in case you've forgotten, Fanny Willis also hired her boyfriend, Nathan Wade, onto the case. They paid him, I believe, over $600,000. They were taking luxury vacations. They tried to lie about the fact that they were in a relationship. He, I believe, might have left his wife or girlfriend as part of this. There was a whole sordid background to that. All of this, I bring up to you again, and now we've come here. Nothing came of it. It ended in total humiliation. They have to drop the case. Millions of dollars were wasted so big Fanny Willis could look like a big superstar. And so many things are like that. All of the Trump criminal cases were ultimately like this. Even the one where he got convicted. Huge problems with it. I think it would have gone down in court eventually.

[Andrew Colvett]

You're talking about the E. Jean Carroll case?

[Blake Neff]

No, not the Carroll case. The Manhattan case.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, of course, of course.

[Blake Neff]

So just one thing after another. They would bring up these cases that are half baked, they're entirely politically motivated, and they go down to an embarrassing defeat.

[Andrew Colvett]

You mean the Manhattan case where he successfully paid back his bank loans?

[Blake Neff]

No, no, no, no, no. This is the one where they said that he was engaging in. What was the election case.

[Andrew Colvett]

You know, it was with. You're talking about with Stormy Daniels.

[Terrence Bates]

Yes.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, yeah, Stormy Daniels. The hush money. They said it was a illegal campaign contribution.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes.

[Blake Neff]

To allegedly play hush money. And then they also. That it was a felony because he was covering up a federal crime that the federal government had never charged him with, had, in fact, investigated and declined to charge him for.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes.

[Blake Neff]

And then they tell the jury, you can just pick whatever crime you feel like might have been covered up. You don't even need to unanimously agree on a crime. All of These things are like that. And so we wanted to open that because today is Thanksgiving. Well, today you can not. Today, yeah, tomorrow is Thanksgiving. Thank you, Andrew. And fact check. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

And so, so, but all this, you know, this is what gets me is there's another round of this that seems to be about to pop off. And now Bloomberg has somehow gotten its hands on a leak between a Witkoff, Steve Witkoff, special envoy appointed by President Trump to handle Ukraine Russia issues, he's been traveling all over the world working on peace negotiations and Yuri Ushakov, Vladimir Putin's top foreign policy advisor. So there was a. This is a new story breaking today, Blake, where it is, it seems to be a story where I instantly want to ask cui bono? Who benefits? Right? Because if you. Let's go through the paces here. So there was a 28 point peace plan that was leaked, right. First leak. And by the way, Jack Posobic actually predicted that there was going to be a leaked phone call yesterday, which is pretty remarkable because it came out today or it came out last night and there was a 28 point peace plan which was widely derided by the foreign policy establishment, is too pro Kremlin. So then we get the EU coming in and we get a follow up peace plan which is much more, let's say, pro Ukrainian. There was basically, you had made the point earlier this week, Blake, that the 28 point peace plan was somewhat remarkable in the sense that it actually included a provision where the US Would identify portions of formerly Ukrainian land as now Russian land and territory. That's a pretty big deal. So this one, the new peace plan does not necessarily have that. It has a, it doesn't have a cap on the size of the Ukrainian military. There's other things that would, what you obviously interpret as more pro Ukrainian, pro Europe. Right. There's basically a NATO Article 5 type security guarantee involved in the new plan. So it's much, much more pro Ukrainian. I think the 28 point plan is much more pragmatic and probably realistic where this is going to finally end out in the end. But now we have a leak and you have to ask why would somebody leak this phone call between Witkoff and Ushakov? So the call is essentially, I think, a nothing burger. But it's being made much of in the press because it appears to them, and the way they're painting it is that Witkoff is playing ball with the Russians, coaching the Russians on how to sell this peace plant plan to Trump. Right. Trump, you're the peace president, you know, kind of Glazing President Trump, giving him, giving his ego a boost. And I think that this is completely par for the course. This is standard operating procedure, standard negotiation tactics. And I believe the President agrees. Let's go ahead and play cut 232. This audio that Bloomberg has of Witkoff coaching the Russians on how to appeal to you and get on your head.

[Terrence Bates]

No, but it's a standard thing, you know, because he's got to sell this to Ukraine. He's got to sell Ukraine to Russia. That's what he's, that's what a dealmaker does. You've got to say, look, they want this. You've got to convince them of this. You know, that's a very standard form of negotiation.

[Andrew Colvett]

Blake, do you think that's a standard form of negotiation?

[Blake Neff]

I don't whether it's standard in diplomacy. It's standard with what Trump does. Trump is a real estate guy. Trump is a guy who is, he likes Witkoff because Witkoff negotiates the way I think Trump likes to make deals. And I think of how you might make deals in the business world. It probably would be normal to tell someone, hey, before you talk this guy, here's how you're going to make sure this conversation goes. Well. That is a normal conversation that you will have if you are in, you know, a business world of negotiation. And I think it's. If Trump says he likes it, that probably makes sense. It's probably true.

[Andrew Colvett]

We'll be right back.

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[Blake Neff]

Newsflash, Democrats.

[Andrew Colvett]

America has a republic, not a democracy. Fact check.

[Blake Neff]

True.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, Blake, we are going to get into very shortly here what we're thankful for. And I would say that one thing that I'm very thankful for is the folks over at why Refi. They have stood by this show. They've stood by Turning Point USA in our darkest hour. And I will never forget that. I'm forever appreciative of that. So why Refi? What do they do? They refinance private or private student loans that are distressed or defaulted. So if that's you, if you find yourself in that position with private, distressed or defaulted private student loans that others won't touch, why Refi can help you now? They don't care what your credit score is. They don't care what your past history is, they're going to work with you to find a custom tailored solution that will fit within your monthly budget. They're going to guarantee interest rates under 6%, ensuring affordability and financial relief. They can save you thousands and thousands of dollars by refinancing and even lower your total cost. Of that loan. So many Americans feel stuck and helpless this holiday season saddled by this unbearable private student loan debt. Well you don't have to sit and wallow in that any longer. Go to yrefi.com that's yrefy.com or call them at 888 yrefi34 get your the help you need to address this problem in your life. If this is you can even get mom and dad off the loan if you have a co borrower. It is a one stop shop for a solution with private student loans. So again 888 yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com all right, so we're going to play a clip. Somebody created an AI generated version as opposed to me reading this back and forth between Steve Witkoff and his Russian counterpart. We're going to play it for you so that you can hear directly what was being said. And then we're going to relate it to what happened in 2019 with Vindman. The other leak. I don't know what happens with Ukraine and our intelligence agencies. Was it MI6? Was it the Europeans? Was it Ukrainians? Who leaked this? Cui bono? That is the question. And it just strikes me that the foreign policy establishment is more outraged at a possible peace deal than they are that our intelligence is getting leaked to Bloomberg. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are back here. We're gonna play this cut here of it's a. It's an AI generated version. But I think it does a good job of giving you the brief of what this leaked call entails. 265.

[Blake Neff]

I'm even thinking that maybe we.

[Terrence Bates]

Set out like a 20 point peace.

[Blake Neff]

Proposal just like we did in Gaza. We put a 20 point Trump plan together.

[Terrence Bates]

That was 20 points for peace. And I'm thinking maybe we do the.

[Blake Neff]

Same thing with you.

[Terrence Bates]

My point is this.

[Andrew Colvett]

Okay.

[Blake Neff]

Okay my friend.

[Terrence Bates]

I think that the very point our leaders could discuss.

[Blake Neff]

Hey Steve, I agree with you that we will congratulate.

[Terrence Bates]

He will say that Mr. Trump is.

[Blake Neff]

A real peace man and so. And so that he will say maybe he says President Trump, you know, Steve and Yuri discussed the very similar 20 pond plan to peace and that could be something that we might move the.

[Terrence Bates]

Needle a little bit.

[Blake Neff]

That that infliction upon us.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, that was actually the wrong version. There's another one that's going around which was much better. But the point is there was coaching going on.

[Blake Neff]

You don't want a better one because then People will think it's the real one.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's true. But, I mean, this was a phone call. It was trying to be. It was a. It was supposed to be a reenactment. That was a. That was a bad version of that. But the point is, they're trying to coach President Trump, and everybody saying, look at. The Kremlin's too involved. But this all strikes me as a throwback to the 2019 Vindman leak. Right. And there is this amazing, amazing cut here that I'm gonna pull up in just a second of. Basically, you have Vindman testifying before Congress, and then Adam Schiff jumps in to protect Vindman. And it is this really telling moment that just is. I'm having. I'm having flashbacks to 2019, so you have to have them with me, too. Let's go ahead and play. Cut. I believe this would be 233. Did you discuss the July 25 phone call with anyone outside the White House on July 25th or the 26th?

[Terrence Bates]

Yes, I did. My core function is to coordinate US government policy, interagency policy, policy. And I spoke to two individuals with regards to providing a. Some site, some sort of readout of the call.

[Blake Neff]

Two individuals that were not in the White House.

[Terrence Bates]

Not in the White House. If I could interject here. We don't want to use these proceedings.

[Blake Neff]

It's our time.

[Terrence Bates]

I know, but we need to protect the whistleblower.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh, need to protect the whistleblower.

[Blake Neff]

Whistleblower.

[Andrew Colvett]

So this is how this happens.

[Blake Neff]

That was just. That's such a bizarre episode in hindsight, that entire whistleblower saga where there was someone who was just making allegations against the President that were ridiculous. And then people, hundreds, thousands of people knew who this person was, but you couldn't say their name on television because they were the whistleblower. It was Eric Sierra Mellow. That was the name, right?

[Andrew Colvett]

Shimmerella, whatever.

[Blake Neff]

I can't pronounce these.

[Andrew Colvett]

So, yeah, he was the whistleblower. He. But. But basically what that was was an instance of somebody got a readout of the call, thought it wasn't good, and then accused the President, which ends up resulting in crazed impeachment proceedings. So these are the stakes that we're playing with. And never forget. Six ways to Sunday. The intel agencies have six ways to Sunday of getting you the notorious warning from the good Chuck Schumer, who's now up against it. By the way, his approval rating in New York is, like, in the low 30s. It's the lowest that he's ever had his back against the wall. We could play the cut why not 244 take on the intelligence community.

[Terrence Bates]

They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. So even for a practical, supposedly hard nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this.

[Blake Neff]

What do you think the intelligence community would do if they were?

[Andrew Colvett]

I don't know but I.

[Terrence Bates]

From what I am told, they are very upset with how he has treated them and talked about them. And we need the intelligence community. We don't know what's going. Look at the Russian hacking. Without the intelligence community we wouldn't have discovered it.

[Blake Neff]

Do you think he has an agenda to try to dismantle parts of the intelligence community? I mean this form of taunting hostility.

[Terrence Bates]

Whether you're a super liberal Democrat or a very conservative Republican, you should be against dismantling the intelligence community.

[Blake Neff]

No video. No video is a better argument for just a systematic purge.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. We have 17 of intelligence.

[Blake Neff]

The intel just fire huge numbers of people at random if you need I think CIA and because it's so sinister.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Oh well we only know these things if the intelligence community tells us. And if you better do what the intelligence community wants, you don't make them upset or they'll get back at you. That's despicable. We live in a Republican voters get to decide what actually happens in their country.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well and in this instance it's pro. I would doubt that it's the CIA, that maybe there's involvement of the CIA. But you look at this, this was a. It could have been Ukrainian intel, could have been MI6, could have been the Five Eyes. You gotta ask yourself who benefits from leaking this call to sabotage a peace plan? Because they think it's. They think that the Trump administration is being too pro Kremlin. But I will say it again. I think the original 28 point is the more pragmatic honest plan that has the greatest chance of success. Europe didn't. Europe thought it was bending the knee to the Kremlin. I disagree. We're gonna come back and tell you what we're thankful for in just a few minutes. Stay right there.

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[Terrence Bates]

Trump Media just signed a massive $6.4 billion deal with Yorkville Acquisition Corporation and Crypto.com, the crypto platform that's trusted by millions of users worldwide. They're teaming up to acquire up to $6.4 billion in CRO to establish America's first publicly traded CRO treasury. Trump media group CRO strategy once complete, this new company will be the largest publicly traded CRO holder out there. So if you're ready to join the crypto revolution, head to crypto.com today day and be part of this historic move. That's crypto.com. don't wait. For more information on the proposed business combination, check out Yorkville Acquisition Corporation's public filings. All right. Let's get you updated on the day's headlines. We appreciate you being here with us for this news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Airports across the country are starting to get more and more crowded as travelers make their way to their Thanksgiving locations. The day before Thanksgiving is traditionally one of the busiest travel days of the year. AAA estimates that nearly 82 million Americans will travel this Thanksgiving holiday, while 73 million will travel by car. About 6 million will fly. Extending Obamacare subsidies continues to be a thorn in the president's side and a challenge for congressional Republicans who are seeking to change this issue leading up to the January 30th government funding deadline. On Tuesday, President Trump said that he prefers not to extend the Affordable Care act subsidies. However, the White House is reportedly preparing a two year extension as millions of Americans face the prospect of major premium increases if and when those subsidies do expire at the end of this year. And the holiday season is in full swing at the White House as President Trump pardoned gobble the turkey at the the White House on Tuesday. A second turkey named Waddle was also pardoned, but as you can see, didn't make it here to the White House for this celebration of the pardonings. The pardons are tradition for US Presidents and date back decades. President Trump and the first lady, by the way, spending the holiday season in Florida. They're at Mar a Lago as we speak and are set to return on Sunday. That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

[Blake Neff]

This movement will not be silenced.

[Andrew Colvett]

You're listening to the Charlie Kirk show. All right. I am so grateful this Thanksgiving season for some of our partners, and one of which is definitely Patriot Mobile, another partner that stuck with this show in our darkest hour. And they happen to be amazing, amazing people and patriots, as the name would infer. Patriotmobile.com Charlie or call them at 972patriot today, they are standing up for the truth. There's only one of the mobile providers out there that shares your values. There's your Christian conservative values. And they also work with all three of the main wireless carriers so you can have access to the same great coverage and service that you're accustomed to or get two on your phone with the dual sim. So you got to check them out. Glenn and the team are genuinely good humans. You can trust Them, they have an all US based support team. So you can make the switch today within minutes. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. You don't have to. Just take my word for it. You can go on their line. Ask the hundreds of thousands of people, Americans who've made The Switch. Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot today. Call them or go to patriot mobile.com Charlie. They are legitimately the best. Use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That is patriot mobile.com Charlie. Make the Switch today. All right, we have to address something here.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, we get this. Just. Just came in hot in from. From top. So we'll get to the Thanksgiving part in a moment. But we're both very big fans of Erica Kirk and she, she wanted us to talk about something that has just bubbled up.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I actually commented on it last night, I have to say. So this is not new to me. Let's go ahead and play. Cut 258. This is Joy Reed pushing the deranged conspiracy theory. It is deranged that J.D. vance is going to leave his wife Usha, second lady, for Erica. 258.

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[Andrew Colvett]

Or she's in on it.

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[Andrew Colvett]

She's like in her Tammy Faye era.

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Okay.

[Terrence Bates]

Holding on the back of his head.

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And rubbing on his head some weird, weird.

[Andrew Colvett]

Don't do that to Jason.

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I'm gonna start thinking something's going on.

[Andrew Colvett]

Why you holding the back of his head?

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I'm like you, you not doing that right thing. You're supposed to be a widow.

[Andrew Colvett]

You in leather pants.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah.

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[Andrew Colvett]

Golly rubbing on his head. Baby.

[Blake Neff]

Really?

[Andrew Colvett]

Pants.

[Blake Neff]

I, I'm annoyed. I'm a little bit annoyed that, you know, when we, we had the Megyn Kelly thing last week and they were, you know, they were praising her because she was a little anti trans. It's just like I, I remember warning you, this is a disgusting woman. She's going to say something very disgusting very soon. How soon? It was.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. So I think what's really sick about this and I'll tell you is that these are three deranged, likely postmenopausal women that are flippantly turning A moment of shared grief where JD Vance, the vice president, goes out of his way to honor his friend Charlie by traveling halfway across the country to talk to students at a Turning Point USA Eventually. And he greets Erica, who just had watched this truly emotional video that the team put together, a tribute from Charlie actually to Erica, about Charlie talking about his wife. And JD Leans in and Erica will tell the story, but it says he'd be so proud of you. And they hug. It's a moment of shared grief and they turned it into some sexualized liberal fever dream where they're projecting their own grossness and their own racism towards Usha onto really good people. And I find that disgusting. And by the way, like, it is a true insight into the spiritual core of the left.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. But she did want us to play this. So this was Erica with Megan Kelly a few last weekend. Let's play explaining this 266 for those.

[Daisy Phelps]

Of you who know me, I never I I'm a very I love I.

[Blake Neff]

Hug is like you're an intense hugger.

[Daisy Phelps]

Whoever is like hating on a hug needs a hug themselves. I will give you a free hug anytime you want to hug. My love language is touch if you will. But seriously, that hug. So I will give you a play by play walking. They just played the emotional video.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm walking over.

[Daisy Phelps]

He's walking over. I'm starting to cry. He says he's so proud of you. And I say God bless you and I touch the back of his head. Anyone who I've hugged that I have touched the back of your head when I hug you, I always say God bless you. That's just me. If you want to take that out of context, go right ahead. Again, that to me shows that you need a hug more than anyone else.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. And I mean listen, she says God bless you and it was actually a really beautiful, touching moment between two friends. And just want to reiterate so much gratitude and Thanksgiving for Vice President J.D. vance and second lady Usha, who have stood by Erica in this moment of tremendous grief and sorrow. And she's grateful, we all are grateful for the way that J.D. vance has provided such incredible leadership. I mean statesmanship. Not only was this a tremendous loss to Erica, but this was a tremendous loss to the entire country. And J.D. vance rose to the occasion in more ways than one. But just think about this, this is what's so gross about this moment is that it's the sneering and the derision and the jeering at the suffering of a widow just because her slain husband happened to be conservative. And they think they have the right to completely smear this moment. And Erica, more directly, I find it tremendously disgusting. We're talking like 70 days away from her going through the unthinkable. And this is their reaction.

[Blake Neff]

That would be their reaction. It was their reaction if you looked online the week after. They're fundamentally gross people. Fundamentally disgusting. They are as, let's be frank, Joy Reid is as hideous on the inside as on the outside.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well said. Well, I think we dealt with that sufficiently. I want let's. We've been promising it. Blake. Okay. So there's a lot of talk about the fracturing on the right. I would say that. That the enthusiasm has waned in moments. And I think it's important that we refocus and we say, what are we thankful for? Because actually there's a lot to be thankful for. You do not have President Kamala Harris.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. And it's especially important. We talked about this a good amount yesterday. We talked about it on thought crime as well, that Charlie and Charlie and the early Americans both believed it was especially important to express thanks. In adversity, in difficulty. And there's no adversity like what we've had in these past three months. And there's also a lot of adversity on the country. And as you say, the movement fracturing apart. There's people who are upset about one thing or another. There's almost a bad vibe over the country where people have decided to fixate on things they are unhappy about rather than things they are happy about. And this can easily just become a self perpetuating cycle.

[Andrew Colvett]

100% right.

[Blake Neff]

And so we wanted to tag.

[Andrew Colvett]

We.

[Blake Neff]

Wanted to reframe things. We wanted to focus on. This is the end of the year. What are the things you should be grateful for? And there are a lot of them, both personally and there are a lot of them nationally. On the political level. When Charlie was talking at the end of. In his Thanksgiving message last year, Charlie says God has shown mercy upon our country and we've seen that mercy actually manifest. It wasn't just a hopeful thing. We've seen one of the things we should never forget to talk about. We had a year ago, we had a complete, wide open border with the entire third world. We had a de facto trader, Alejandro Mayorkas, running the show, letting in gangsters from China, you know, possible terrorists from Central Africa, everyone coming in and overnight. Close the door. President Trump closed the door. We don't have an open border anymore. We have a real border. And it happened so instantaneously and so totally that people allow themselves to forget that it happened. And instead this is the sort of, it's the grievance mindset. It's the mindset of I'm mad. There are not enough deportations happening quickly enough. We agree, we would like more deportations, we would like faster deportations, and yet we're attempting to do them. We actually have the arrests happening, we have deportations being made. We have this multibillion dollar ICE hiring expansion to accelerate it in the following year. We should be thankful for those things. We should be thankful for a ceasefire in the Israel, Gaza war and the other ceasefires that have happened, for the progress towards the ceasefire in the Russia, Ukraine war, the deadliest war in Europe in nearly a century.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I totally agree. And you know, this is the conundrum that the administration faces, right, where they get peace in the Middle east, something everybody wanted. But then instantly you see the chatter. And by the way, I've contributed to this and I make no apologies for it. But then it's sort of like domestic front is not getting enough attention, which is true. Nevertheless, it's a heck of a job being the President of the United States. I wanna call out attention to one other thing that we're thankful for. We talked about it before the show, Blake, and you can be kind of a hard grader and I like that about you. But one of the things that you gave the president and this administration really hard high marks on was some of the changes within the hiring policies of the executive branch. And so go ahead.

[Blake Neff]

100% this. They came in, they actually do have right wing revolution round. There's one back there.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

You know, there's that sort of fantasy scene because it was written before Trump came back into office, where it's describing a possible day one of the administration with this cascade of executive orders. And that's pretty much what the admin did in real life. Trump said, bring me pieces of paper to sign. And some of those he signed. He repealed orders going all the way back to LBJ that mandated dei. They didn't call it that at the time, but mandated dei, affirmative action, all of these race based, sex based, discrimination based quotas for how you do things and imposing them on contractors, on the private sector. And he sweeps these things away. He goes to these universities that have just gotten unlimited money from the American people for decades without question. And he goes to Columbia, he goes to Penn, and he says, you guys are doing anti American stuff. You're allowing crazy students to harass people because they're Jewish or they're white or whatever. And you're not allowed to do that. You actually have to change your admissions so they're fair otherwise. And you have to have other rules to make sure there's no harassment. Otherwise we're cutting off the money. There was a news story just the other day. Colombia is worried Trump will cut off their supply of international students. So they're looking to expand their undergraduate class of mostly domestic admits up to 20%.

[Andrew Colvett]

Wow.

[Blake Neff]

So more actual Americans might get to go to Columbia. They might get to have access to one of the greatest universities in America for Americans.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. And that's well said. So many little things.

[Blake Neff]

Just. He got rid of those dumb Biden era names on all of our military bases where they went to Fort Bragg.

[Andrew Colvett]

Hey, the fort.

[Blake Neff]

The fort that trained the men who won World War II. And Biden says get rid of that name and call it Fort Liberty.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm grateful for Pete and by the way, I'm grateful that Charlie fought for Pete Hegseth as hard as he did because we got rid of all of these woke standards. We got rid of the we, now we have gender neutral combat standards. Got rid of all the, you know, the furries and the LGBTQ poem readings and all this stuff out of the mill. I'm very grateful for that because my brother serves and he says it's been like night and day.

[Blake Neff]

If you look issue after issue, there's so much progress compared to a year ago. And we'll continue this. You have to look at where the progress has been made. We'll be right back.

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[Terrence Bates]

Remember, remember the 5th of November.

[Andrew Colvett]

Make America great forever. All right, I want to show the audience some of these Charlie Thanksgiving tweets that are just amazing. Go ahead and throw up. 208. This is Charlie says Happy Thanksgiving from our family to yours. We are thankful for the gift of salvation, our amazing children and God's mercy on our great country this year. Take a moment today to be grateful that we did it. By God's grace alone, we took our country back. Here's one from November of 2020. Throw up. 209. Jesus Christ is the King of the world. He died for you this Thanksgiving. Give your life to Christ. How about this from November 2024. 2:17 Psalm 100 verse 4. Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise. Give thanks to Him. Bless his name. And here's yet another 219. This is from last November. I'm overwhelmed with gratitude this Thanksgiving. What a time to be alive. Charlie was an expert at being grateful with a whole movement full of people that are really good at being not so grateful, maybe being a little negative kvetching, whatever word you want to put on it. Charlie modeled for all of us, gratitude and Thanksgiving and always looking up to God, which is truly the model from the first Thanksgiving and onward. Even in Abraham Lincoln's declaration of the first Thanksgiving, it was always looking to God and being grateful to the Almighty for the providential hand that he's had on this country.

[Blake Neff]

Many, many of the pilgrims who celebrated the first Thanksgiving weren't there, I think even a year later, and they did it anyway.

[Andrew Colvett]

And our country has a history of fasting and prayer and especially in the early days of the founders. And so we need to model what they handed down to us. Be grateful for the many blessings. And we're going to continue talking about some of our favorite things that we're thankful for this year because there is much to be grateful for. So we will welcome back national radio in just about 10 seconds. Hang right there. We'll be right back.

[Blake Neff]

All right.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Blake Neff]

The ICE expansion in particular, I'm just looking through. I encourage you go look up list of executive orders in the Trump administration. Maybe even look up, look up what Democrats are complaining about from the Trump admin. You might find some stuff you like quite a bit. I'm just looking through here. We got. But so as of August, at least 21 transgender hospitals or clinics had closed the doors, including the largest one in the country in Los Angeles. Just again, it's like the border. It's almost an overnight total 180 degree swerve from something that was incredibly evil. And now I'm so annoyed because I'll run in, you'll see people who will say, actually that issue was always a distraction. That issue, that issue doesn't really matter much. It mattered a lot. They were mutilating children. They still want to do it. No, they're fanatical about it. The scale of the evil, how sinister it was, the scale of the lie they had to tell, that you could just, a boy could just become a girl or the other way around was so unthinkable. And the fact that we actually don't talk about it nearly as much anymore, other than the occasional, oh, a guy goes into a girl's locker room or something so drastically better. And that's so heavily due to who we have in the White House, who we have making policy in this country, who we have setting the conversation. And that is an amazing mercy on our country.

[Andrew Colvett]

How about this? Core inflation is down to 2.1, the lowest since Trump's first term. Egg prices are down 53%.

[Blake Neff]

I think I saw gas.

[Andrew Colvett]

Gas, get this. There's the cheapest gas in the country, Oklahoma, 250 a gallon. But you can get it here in Phoenix at 319 a gallon.

[Blake Neff]

319. That's pretty low for Phoenix. Yeah, we had, you know, usaid.

[Andrew Colvett]

Usaid, usaid, totally.

[Blake Neff]

We dismantled this giant foreign aid apparatus that gave money to a lot of things that once people saw what it was, they did not care for it. We have the January 6th pardons. A thousand people who were. It was the biggest manhunt in American history to find every single person who was remotely adjacent to this event and treating it as the new Pearl Harbor. It was this core part of the new left wing Anti Maga 3rd foundation of the country myth that we basically need a new constitution to wage war on MAGA pardons. It's just over with. January 6th is done and we have Vice President J.D. vance.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yep.

[Blake Neff]

We have, we don't have Charlie anymore. We have one of, we have the person he saw as one of his best friends in politics, one of his closest political analogues in politics, who shares his thoughts about nationalism, who shares his thoughts about faith, who shares his thoughts about so many things, immigration. And that man is the Vice President of the United States. Every single day he's blossoming as a communicator on X. He's, he's hosted this program. He's done so many things. He's such a worthy standard bearer for the cause. And Charlie fought, fought so hard specifically for that. You and I saw it how much he campaigned for that behind the scenes throughout 24 and we have him as well as this leader.

[Andrew Colvett]

And I totally agree. JD's the best and he's, you know, he's got a bright future ahead. That's all we'll say here. Here's what else I'll say. $31 billion in tariff revenue this last month. I know Blake, that's not your on your list. But it's on my list. I am all about it works if it works.

[Blake Neff]

He ran on it. He has the opportunity.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful for it. And that is. Listen, I love, I love trying to onshore manufacturing and I love the trillions of dollars of pledges. We obviously want to see those shovel ready.

[Blake Neff]

We'll close the hour with this. We have an email from Rita who says I am thankful for Charlie and the insight of those closest to him. Thank you very much Rita.

[Andrew Colvett]

We'll be back. Hour two starts in just a few minutes. Charlie had a heart for the persecuted.

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[Andrew Colvett]

All right. All right. Welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff. And we have a third on set. Daisy Phelps, welcome.

[Daisy Phelps]

Thank you.

[Andrew Colvett]

So we are gonna do something fun here. Back by Popular demand. I actually missed the first time that we did this, but I loved the idea of it.

[Blake Neff]

I think we've done it twice.

[Andrew Colvett]

We did it twice.

[Daisy Phelps]

Both times when I was gone, Charlie had to get out of the chair super quickly one day and I was like, blake, explain everything that Charlie just said to me. Cause I don't know what we're talking about.

[Andrew Colvett]

So this is the no dumb questions. And we are, we've got some voicemails from the audience. We're going to be looking at your email. So please email us. Freedom Charlie Kirk.com Freedom CharlieKirk.com we're going to be hawking your emails this whole hour. And then, Daisy, you have just some of your own questions.

[Daisy Phelps]

Yes, I quickly. Well, first I just wanted to start with, like, what actually is on the table in this Ukraine piece.

[Blake Neff]

We wanted to hit that. We've talked about Ukraine a lot this week, but we wanted to hit just actually lay out what everyone is talking about. And I especially wanted to because I think this peace deal you've heard about is one that Charlie would have liked a lot and he would have been a big fan of it. So there's this 28 point plan. This is what came out a week ago. And then there's been efforts to modify it where Europeans have proposed counterplans. But I think the nicest thing is the 28 point plan because it seems this was worked on by the administration directly. And so point one, it says Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed. And okay, that that's a formal one. Sovereignty confirmed. That is a fancy way of saying Ukraine will remain a country. It will remain independent, it will not be annexed, it will not be absorbed by Russia or anybody else will stay. It'll remain a country. And it then says, this is point two, is Actually one of the most important it is there will be a comprehensive non aggression agreement between Russia, Ukraine and Europe. And then this is key, all ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled. This is why I was a fan when I read this plan, that the intent of this is to be a final peace treaty with no outstanding business. And when we've seen Europe try to mess with this a big way they've tried to mess with it is by introducing ambiguities back into it. So an important part of this plan, one of its components is it would seed land to Russia, more or less. Let's put up that image. We have 122. Yes. And so 122. Is it up yet? Yes, there it is. And so what it would do is those areas in red are roughly match places that are currently held by Russia that America, the international community have considered part of Ukraine. And these are the places they've captured Crimea in the south, which is now covered by our Chiron. But, but Crimea was taken about a decade ago. These others were taken during the invasion. This would formally cede them to Russia. It would now be owned by Russia. We would acknowledge Russian territory. That is the key part.

[Daisy Phelps]

Were previously and have always been a part of Ukraine.

[Andrew Colvett]

Not always.

[Blake Neff]

Well, so yeah, so they were, they were part of Ukraine at its independence. So Ukraine became independent from the Soviet Union in 1991. And so when they became independent they took all those lands. Russia has had claim on some of, has generated claims on some of them. There's been a long source of conflict. They invaded over the status of many of these territories and that is roughly the area that they have conquered by force of arms. And this deal would recognize those captured territories as Russian. That's part of the removing ambiguities thing.

[Daisy Phelps]

So was Russia's initial intent to take over all of Ukraine or to take these?

[Blake Neff]

Well, people. People would debate it. Russia's stated intention for invading Ukraine was to de nazify it. They claimed Ukraine was run by Nazis. That is highly debatable as an assertion at minimum. But it does seem their initial plan they did. They attacked directly towards Kiev, the nation's capital. They did. They literally had paratroopers land at the airport of the city. They seem to believe that Ukraine was a very weak country and would just collapse almost instantly once attacked. And in fact, if you follow the news story, then a lot of Americans expected the same thing. The Biden administration seems to have offered. Oh, Zelensky, you can flee the country and just come to America and Zelensky, I will say to his credit, did not do that. I know Charlie Minias had a lot of criticism of Zelensky on justified grounds, but he did not. And they fought a lot harder than they expected. So I think one reason Charlie would support this deal is he would probably believe Russia would be inclined to respect a final peace settlement because this war has been a lot longer, a lot bloodier, a lot more expensive, a lot rougher on everyone than was expected. A lot of wars are like that.

[Daisy Phelps]

So is this a win for either party or is this a pretty mutual compromise?

[Blake Neff]

I'll try to take the Charlie thing and say the biggest winners of all would be the Ukrainian people who are not conscripted and fed into a meat grinder so that Washington can feel good about themselves and how they're fighting Russia and being tough on Russia. You know, we don't need to kill a bunch of Ukrainian 18 year olds so Lindsey Graham can feel tough. Having said that, the peace deal would be seen, I would say, as a victory more towards Russia, because it is better for Russia than the deal that was on the table before the war began that Russia was offering to us.

[Daisy Phelps]

What were they offering?

[Blake Neff]

Russia's deal that they were proposing in early 22 was essentially, if you agree that Crimea is part of Russia because they'd already occupied that. If you agree not to admit Ukraine into Naito and not position certain military forces close to Russia, they were proposing a peace deal along those lines. So it would have had them have less land and it would just. Would have involved fewer concessions than this agreement.

[Daisy Phelps]

Why does Russia not want Ukraine and NATO?

[Blake Neff]

So the most helpful way to think of it is Ukraine from the Russian perspective is like the. Has long been a part of their country. That Russian culture began in Kiev and it was part of the Russian empire for hundreds of years.

[Andrew Colvett]

You're reminding me of Tucker's interview with Putin.

[Blake Neff]

Exactly. Yeah. Tucker asked Putin about Ukraine and he gives us literal half hour answer about the history of Ukraine. But the core of it is. Is from the Russian perspective, they see Ukraine as this core part of Russia. And so it would be. Imagine if America had a really devastating thing and New England broke away and became its own country. And obviously we have a lot of political differences from New England, so you could see how they'd possibly be happy to be independent from us or Texas, but we would all. Yeah, but I wanted to go with New England, where America began.

[Andrew Colvett]

Sure. Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And then imagine China came along and was suddenly cultivating New England as an ally. And Talking about adding them to the Chinese belt and roadblock. And, you know, maybe we should put some military forces in New England. We could maybe put a nuclear missile there. And I think even though we would see a lot of political differences with New England, oh, it's full of all these insane libs and commies, we would still be really upset by that. I think that's the best way.

[Andrew Colvett]

Sort of like the Cuban Missile crisis. I mean, which.

[Blake Neff]

More extreme than that. We've never owned Cuba.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, but Cuba being so close to us, we had this Cuban Missile crisis in the 1960s because Russia was positioning arms right on the. On in Cuba, which is what. Like, what's the.

[Blake Neff]

The 90 miles to 90 miles, what they would say.

[Andrew Colvett]

And that was a huge, huge geopolitical issue of the time. This is when kids were in schools, were learning to get under their desks and having to do these nuclear fallout drills. So, you know, the boomer generation remembers this. And so it's sort of akin to that where, you know, you could imagine having a hostile military force, NATO, which is considered one of the most robust, well funded military alliances in the world. It's probably the most robust. Having that at your doorstep is not a. A very promising or delightful idea for the Russians.

[Daisy Phelps]

So when they say that they are basically, they're covering all, I think you said, conflicts over the last 30 years, putting those to rest, that means then that Russia there, they would be at peace with the parts of Ukraine that they have gotten back.

[Blake Neff]

Yes. They would be saying, we will not demand anything more. And we, in return would re. We would end the sanctions, we reintegrate Russia into the global economy. The objective of the peace deal would be a true peace deal, not just a ceasefire, not just we stop shooting, that this is considered the resolution of the conflict. And I know Charlie very, very badly wanted that. He thought it was dumb that we were in this new Cold war with Russia going on forever when we were. When we have conflicts with China, for example. I think he viewed this as a distraction and a product of Washington being unable to move on and absolute waste.

[Andrew Colvett]

By the way, of American taxpayer dollars and mu. So there's that, too. We're gonna keep going through the breaks here. Radio. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. More of the Charlie Kirk show, hour two. No dumb questions.

[Blake Neff]

Feel like we should keep going.

[Andrew Colvett]

Boys.

[Blake Neff]

Relentless in spirit.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Blake Neff]

Well, you know what's funny? This is actually that popped up as part of the peace deal because I believe the original proposed peace plan has an aspect to say, oh, and as part of the peace deal, we'll do an audit for. For financial stuff because that's important to Trump to make sure the money was used well. And the revised peace plan that was promoted by the Europeans tweaks this to there shall be a full amnesty for all actions during the war, which I think a lot of people who have seen how much corruption there is, there are people in Ukraine who, while their country's been fighting, have become sentimillionaires off of aid money. It's always been a very corrupt country. It's one of the worst things about it.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, and I know that there's been a little kerfuffle and a fallout with mtg But I will say MTG was very good on this particular issue. She was demanding full accountability and a full accounting of where all of America's dollars have gone. And I support that idea still. We're gonna welcome back national radio in 2000 seconds. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are doing no dumb questions and we're talking about Ukraine. Daisy, you have a long one that you would like to ask.

[Daisy Phelps]

Well, I think it's going to be a longer explanation, but we were talking about why the US Is the only country that's positioned to present this peace deal to Ukraine and Russia. My question, and I, I don't think this is a dumb question specifically, I think that a lot of people my age would have this question because growing up you hear a lot about who our allies are. I. There are so many conflicts that we've gotten in that haven't made sense. But it's like, okay, we do have a long standing agreement or relationship with this country that it makes sense that we're in these conversations. I was not aware and I don't really know why we are allies with Ukraine until this all started happening in 2021.

[Blake Neff]

So the question is, why are we allies with Ukraine?

[Daisy Phelps]

Yeah. And when did that start?

[Blake Neff]

To some extent, that is. That is a good question. So we had this and we thought we had to have this on air. Are you familiar with what the Cold War is, Daisy?

[Daisy Phelps]

Okay, so Blake asked me this and yet to some extent I believe it is about communism. And I do not think that it was actual boots on the ground conflict. And I also do believe that it was at some point in maybe the 90s, maybe the 80s, that that's all right.

[Blake Neff]

There we go. I love Gen Z so much. So the Cold War was this. Russia used to be the Soviet Union, the USSR much bigger country. Ukraine was part of it, Belarus was part of it. All those stands you can see in Central Asia, they were all part of it. It was a much bigger country and it was communist. It wanted to spread communism. It was an ideological state seen as a huge threat in America, in the west, as it should be. They were promoting atheism. They opposed free enterprise, they opposed election. They just very bad country. And we stood against them. We had our allies in NATO, in Western Europe. Europe opposed to the ussr. Fortunately, communism doesn't work. So their economy went down into the toilet. They began to have ethnic fractiousness because it was a multi ethnic empire and because diversity is not always a strength everyone. And so in 1991, the Soviet Union collapses, it breaks into a bunch of pieces.

[Daisy Phelps]

1991, Russia's.

[Blake Neff]

Did I say 1990? Yeah, 1991, they fracture apart and Ukraine is one of the breakaway parts. Other countries break off, Russia's the biggest piece left. And what I would say is, there we go. The reason, frankly we're allies with Ukraine is even after this happened, we essentially remained hostile with Russia. Why that happened. We'd need a whole hour to get.

[Andrew Colvett]

Into the details of why that happened here. Because we talked about NATO. NATO was a reaction to the USSR and the encroachment of Soviet Russia or communist ussr. And so one could ask a larger question of why did NATO exist?

[Blake Neff]

Why did NATO still exist? And instead what we did is we, after the war, almost from a fit of just like idealism or because it was sentimentalism, like, oh, these new countries are democracies, it'd be cool if they could join our cool democracy club. We expand NATO, so we add Poland, Hungary, Estonia, we add all these countries in Eastern Europe that used to be communist and allied with the Soviets. And if you're Russia, the only possible justification for this is, oh, you're expanding your anti Russia military alliance to be closer to Russia. And so that hurt relations a lot. And I think there's also just a lot of lingering anti Russia paranoia. If you're a 65 year old veteran of the military, the first entire half of your career was, oh, we're still hostile towards Russia. You grew up with the Cold War. And, and so we've cultivated, because of this, we've cultivated Ukraine as this anti Russian country. And Ukraine has differences with Russia on a whole bunch of things. There's reasons they're in conflict with each other. And that's we basically, why are we allies with Ukraine? We're allies with Ukraine because we are not friendly with Russia is the biggest reason.

[Andrew Colvett]

You have to also understand that one of the key motivators for Vladimir, Vladimir Putin, who came of age when the USSR fell, is that he sees that as a really giant mistake, that it was allowed to fall. So all of those countries right there that were allowed to basically become independent and secede from Russia or the ussr. And so he is, a lot of people suspect one of his key drivers is that he wants to reunite the lost pieces of the ussr. And he's, he sees Ukraine as the apple of Russia's eye.

[Daisy Phelps]

Okay, so then that leads into my next question. What makes Ukraine different than any of these other countries that I'm looking at on this map? Like, were they going for Ukraine? And they're going for the other ones next.

[Blake Neff]

That's what host people who don't like Russia would say. What I think Charlie would argue and I would agree is Russia has made it clear they view Ukraine as different. It is. It was part of Russia longer. A lot of the people there are ethnically Russian. A lot of people there speak Russian. It was that historical heartland of Russia. Russia's repeatedly said, we think Ukraine is way more important. So for example, Crimea, Finland borders Russia. They joined NATO over this invasion and Russia said, said we're okay with that. It's not the end of the world for us. But they have said we will not allow Ukraine to join NATO. And part of this 28 point peace plan says Ukraine can't join NATO. NATO can't have troops in Ukraine. And in fact, it still says you can treat it as a violation of NATO's self defense if we invade Ukraine again, but you just can't have them join.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I think one thing that's something, Charlie, one thing that makes it really key is Crimea, which we can explain in just a second. We will be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this REAL America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Thanksgiving just got a bit more happy for President Trump after a judge dismissed the Georgia election interference case against him. The ruling comes after the prosecutor who recently took over the case from Florida, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, said he would not pursue the charges. This was the last case seeking to punish the president for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. District Attorney Willis was taken off the case over a, quote, appearance of impropriety due to her romantic relationship with the special prosecutor, she chose to lead the case against Mr. Trump and his 18 co defendants. While it was unlikely that any legal action would have moved forward against the president, especially while he was in office. Office. Other people named in the case, including former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, are now also free and clear now that the case has been abandoned. Extending Obamacare subsidies continues to be a thorn in the president's side and a challenge for congressional Republicans who are seeking to do away with the issue leading up to the January 30th government funding deadline. On Tuesday, President Trump said he prefers not to extend Affordable Care act subsidies. However, the White House is reportedly preparing a two year extension as millions of Americans face the prospect of major premium increases if and when the subsidies expire at the end of this year. Democrats are demanding an extension of the subsidies, but the White House says, quote, the president is having ongoing conversations with members of his administration, members of Congress and private sector experts about alternatives. Airports across the country starting to get more and more crowded as travelers make their way to their Thanksgiving locations. The good news is President Trump says this Thanksgiving should be a bit more affordable for most Americans. All right. Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to get to that. AAA estimates in terms of travel that nearly 82 million Americans are going to be traveling during this Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving holiday. 73 million will travel by car. About 6 million will fly. Meantime, President Trump saying that your turkey should cost a little bit less than it did last year. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Andrew Colvett]

We'll be right back.

[Blake Neff]

All right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. No Dumb Questions continues hour two on this Wednesday before Thanksgiving, we are thankful for no Dumb Questions. I got, I got an email from Tara. I watch on Rav every day and this is the best show ever. This 55 year old really needs this history lesson. Thank you from Tara.

[Daisy Phelps]

Love to Tara. Thank you so much for making me feel less like a moron.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, you got 55 year olds and Gen Zers uniting for this 300 year.

[Blake Neff]

Old Russian history lesson.

[Andrew Colvett]

So do we, do we want to keep, do you have more questions? We just covered Crimea.

[Blake Neff]

We did promise a lot of, we promised other topics. We can keep going on this if you guys want. But we do have, do we want to do any of the voicemails? Daisy?

[Daisy Phelps]

Yeah, we totally can. I think we should probably, let's, we can start with 224. This is from Steve. I went through a lot of them. They were pretty good. But these were the ones that I also had questions about.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right. Good morning. Let me say that I love Charlie Kirk. I miss Charlie Kirk. And my best to Erica and all of the team there at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action. My question is this and the cities of Seattle, Washington, Memphis and all cities where Trump is sending the National Guard. What happens when the National Guard leaves and we have a corrupt city council, mayor, police chief, etc. Thank you and God bless you for all you do. Well.

[Blake Neff]

That'S the crux of it. What I think I would, I would point out is even in D.C. most things, a lot of, a lot of what the National Guard has done has primarily been, I think you'd agree, symbolic. It's, it's having you have the image of people maintaining order in big, prominent public places. This does free up manpower. It frees up police to send more guys to dangerous places. To make arrests for other things. But so much of it is also just the bigger. It's the miasma, it's the, it's the vibe that's going on. Think about what 2020 was. Murder rates go up 30% overnight. Not just in places where there's riots, they go up. In Sioux Falls, South Dakota, we had 19 murders that year, a huge increase from others. It was like the country had this psychotic break where it was more okay with committing crimes, people were more violent and police were less willing to stop them. And what Trump's doing with the National Guard deployments, it's less that the Guard are literally arresting people and literally stopping crimes and much more. It's a bid to say crime is unacceptable in America, especially in our best cities in our capital, and we are going to treat it as a problem that must be resolved and if not, there will be consequences. And you're trying to shift. Charlie loved the word. The Overton window towards crime is a serious thing you must stop. And away from what we routinely see where city officials just don't view crime as a problem. They want to dismiss charges, throw out charges, let. We had that case, I believe it was in Chicago where this guy tried, set a woman on fire and he had what, 50 prior arrests, 100 prior.

[Andrew Colvett]

72.

[Blake Neff]

72 prior.

[Andrew Colvett]

72. And by the way, we've seen instance after instance of this and this was. And it's almost like the, the. What's the. What would be a word for it? It's like, it's like the zeitgeist, the spirit of the time or something. Where, where you got from the 90s. The 90s was an era where we started policing cities. We flooded urban cores with a lot more police officers. And you saw crime precipitously drop in LA, NY and that in big cities all across the country. So the spirit of the age then was tough on crime. That's when we got the three strikes rule in California. And then cities started gentrifying because they were safe to invest in. So business money floods in, property values skyrocket and we sort of forget the lessons of the 90s. And slowly but surely we forget the fact that we once lived in a high crime urban core. And we lived with these problems. So then guess what? That's what started happening in 2014 with the Ferguson. We had the Ferguson effect. That was kind of the first iteration of the Black Lives Matter movement. And then boom, 2020, we had the George Floyd riots. And it's like all of the lessons of the 90s went out the window. Window. And here's what else happened. We have had this slow infiltration and you would agree with this, I believe, Blake, within especially the legal system where we started, we started basically treating crime as well. What race are you? What's your background? Have you been systemically oppressed by the system?

[Blake Neff]

This would spill over in Canada. You just straight up had. Actually, I think in Washington state a court said, oh, you actually just have to consider what race someone is in terms of how much you punish them for committing crimes.

[Andrew Colvett]

Because there was a lot of hocus pocus going on with the data. Right. Because they would, they would essentially say, well look at too many black people are incarcerated versus their white counterparts or their Hispanic counterparts. Well, and the truth sadly is I actually was tweeting about this. Elon gave me a quote tweet this morning because I said, we don't have enough people in prison and we don't have enough capacity either. That's a thought crime for you. We don't have enough prison capacity. But anyways, there's this hocus pocus, this kind of woo woo going on with the numbers saying, well then black people must be over policed. Well, the truth is, is that unfortunately a lot of black people tend to congregate in urban core and there's more crime in the black community. This is something Charlie was unafraid to address head on and directly, and he took a lot of flack for it, but it's just the case. And so we stopped policing, we stopped punishing and we started letting people off. And guess what happens when you do that? You get a spike in crime. And we've had that spike in crime since George Floyd. Now a lot of people will then say, well, look at D.C. blake. Crime was down 35%. We don't need the National Guard. Well, it turns out that they were cooking the books. There was a big investigation that was ongoing within the MPD, within the D.C. police Department, where supervisors were going around telling police officers to downgrade serious felonies, violent felonies. So they didn't show up on the FBI crime statistics. So my belief is that this is a national epidemic, that they're doing this in cities all across the country. They're downgrading serious felonies so that the crime rate looks artificially low. And you can you get this vibe from places like Chicago and Memphis and D.C. where they will tell you crime may be going down statistically, but I don't feel safer, I don't feel the crime rate going down.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. And so much of this is, it's, the word you'd use is disorder, which is, it's not just the literal violent crime. It's these casual seeding of the public space to antisocial elements. So that's what. But you know, tent cities of homeless guys just kind of moping about or even. This is actually a very mild one. But for example, in, on subways and in public buses, you're not supposed to play loud music, just you know, blast your phone on speakerphone. And what is a 100% known phenomenon is that there will be young men who just go. And as a performatively hostile act, they'll blast their music really loud.

[Andrew Colvett]

Sound pollution.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, sound pollution. And, and everyone just has to put up with it because okay, if it's like, if it's a young, if it's a young Black man, a 55 year old guy is not going to go up or a young woman is not going to go up and say turn your music off, that's inappropriate. Because we'll be frank, they'll be worried they'll get killed or assaulted or something really horrible or someone will record them on their cell phone and blast Karen on TikTok. And the way you have to stop that is you actually have to have, have authorities, the authorities punish this or think of something that's nonviolent turnstile jumping. How demoralizing is it for you to be this, you know, this sucker who has to pull out, who's pulling out your card to pay $3 to ride on the subway train and then you see teenagers jump over it, get on, no one stops them. You have to stop these low level things that is so important to the public's morale since they live in a successful society.

[Andrew Colvett]

I think so much of the public debate now nowadays is between chaos and order. You said disorder. It's chaos, which is. The Democrats seem to love it. They seem to sow chaos into the system by their policies, by their, this pandering to criminals and illegal immigrants. They always seem to pick the side of the illegal immigrant, the criminal, the systemically oppressed over law abiding American citizens. And I think that's what we saw in 2024 is that finally the country said enough. And so they want more aggressive policing, they want more muscular policing. And you just have to, to your point, kind of full circle moment, you have to assert a new Overton window, you have to assert a new zeitgeist that says we, we are going to be a law and order country. We don't have to live like this. You can just do things. Right. So, but, but by the way, the caller's question was, Blake, what happens when you get corrupt new leadership in town? Well, unfortunately, you're probably going to revert back to the chaos and the disorder of corruption. Right. And so that's why local elections matter. That's why we have to keep our pedal to the metal and keep insisting on law and order, keep insisting that we lock up career criminals. You know, Blake, I actually believe, let's get into. I just actually believe that if you, if you incarcerated, let's say there's probably 500,000 people in this country that deserve to be in prison that are not. Let's just say maybe that's a low number. But if you got rid of the career criminals, you would see crime dry up really quick. Quick.

[Blake Neff]

All right, let's see. We have got more of these.

[Daisy Phelps]

Do you want to do the Iowa one?

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Okay. I have no idea what this is going to be. Let's do 269. From Scott.

[Andrew Colvett]

As a voter in Iowa.

[Blake Neff]

Home to the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman.

[Andrew Colvett]

I want to ask your view on.

[Blake Neff]

How that committee's delay and rigid adherence.

[Andrew Colvett]

To the outdated blue slip process contributed to this week's outcomes regarding James Comey and Letitia Jennifer names.

[Daisy Phelps]

So my question before we get to his question is I don't know. I don't even know what he asked.

[Andrew Colvett]

Because I don't know what a blue.

[Blake Neff]

Slip committee this is.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's a good question.

[Blake Neff]

An aspect of. So the president appoints judges. They're called Article 3 judges. That's. So it's not just the Supreme Court. Trump can appoint people to the court of appeals and to the district court. And a lot of district courts are, they match basically state, state boundaries. So, for example, there's the Southern District of New York. That is a federal court. It covers southern New York, where New York City is. Or I think there's a district for South Dakota. There's a district for different parts of California. There's a bunch of these. And by tradition, when you've nominated judges to serve in these district courts in a specific state, it's been with some, like, approval of the senators from that state. And so what that has meant, for example, is you get more conservative judges, even under Democrat administrations in red states, and you get more liberal judges in blue states because they're going to have these blue senators who will not allow you to just appoint whoever you want. And this has, I guess you could say the upside of this would be you get, you have judges who are a little more in line with their states. But the downside is obvious. A lot of our most important jurisdictions, New York City, the Bay Area, Los Angeles, they're in these blue states that are just going to have blue judges. And you get more liberal rulings as a result. When okay, we had, we've had these Republicans in office for so long with Senate. Why don't we have more conservative courts that will are delivering conservative rulings on things? How much is this playing a role in things? It definitely is playing a role. I don't think it played a similar super specific role in the Comey ruling unless it did.

[Andrew Colvett]

So here's the deal. This is Judge Cameron McGowan Curry. So she was actually from. She was appointed by President Bill Clinton, who's a Democrat. Yeah. In March 1994. But she originally was to the U.S. district Court of South Carolina. At the time a blue slip policy wasn't in effect. And guess who was chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee at the time.

[Blake Neff]

Was it already Grassley?

[Andrew Colvett]

He's been around. Joe Biden.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, whoa, yeah. Joseph Robert Biden.

[Andrew Colvett]

Get this. South Carolina's two senators are 94 were Strom Thurmond, a Republican, and Ernst Holings, a Democrat. And both the Republican and the Democrat gave a positive blue slip on that particular nomination.

[Blake Neff]

An important thing. The blue slip is a thing and we probably should move on from it and get actual conservatives in court. But, but there's so many other things and one of those is just we have to be really good about who we're putting in courts because conservatives have for a long time lagged on treating these as hugely important ideological actions to get really conservative people with good values into court positions.

[Andrew Colvett]

More no dumb questions coming soon. But we are first gonna tell you about culture and Christianity. Alan Jackson Podcast. This is a great podcast, available wherever you get your podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and we love Pastor Allen here on this show. So he confronts the main issues of the day. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump of the White House, issues in the church. Nothing is off limits. He goes straight for it. He has a guest with expertise and powerful testimony and he tells you how you can make a difference and engage your faith to positively impact the culture. Which is what we're all about. Which is what Charlie was all about. Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the [e-mail] Charlie that's AlanJackson.com Charlie we will be Right back. 100% American made and darn proud of it. The Truth Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is interesting. Priscilla says not chaos versus order, chaos versus control. Flashback to the Get Smart TV series the 1960s. I didn't watch that one. This one says Robert says Blake is ignorant of the pre2022 history of Ukraine. Maybe we should, you should dive into that email and see see if that if there's any.

[Blake Neff]

He's calling. He says I'm spouting neocon bs. Oh, no offense, Robert. I take that. I take that a little personally. What I'm trying to do is I am trying to be fair minded. So I've repeatedly referenced what Russia's perspective on it would be, what those opposed Russia's perspective on it would be because that is what is dictating things. I, I assure you I'm not a neo.

[Andrew Colvett]

Are you unaware that the state of Ukraine and its borders were arbitrarily made by Lenin and Stalin in 1922 as one of the USSR's Sov Republics? That's true, yeah.

[Daisy Phelps]

If it helps Robert, I am ignorant of all Ukraine history, not just.

[Andrew Colvett]

We have another voicemail coming up. Yeah. Yes. Okay, we're gonna get that. We're gonna welcome back radio and then we're gonna do another voicemail. Send us your emails. Freedom charliekirk.com we'll be. All right. Oh, this is great. Kevin says Andrew, I've heard Memphis officers call into Memphis Morning News that confirm what you are saying. Crimes are being downgraded here in the mid south area to keep the statistics down. Y' all continue to do the work that needs to be done in Christ. Kevin, thank you. So I told you it was a national phenomenon because you had the spike after George Floyd and all these blue cities wanted to be like it's not. We're not crime ridden here. Don't worry, nothing to see here. It makes perfect sense. Okay, we have another voicemail. We are in the no Dumb Questions Hour.

[Daisy Phelps]

268 is the next voicemail. I, yeah, I, let's just listen to it and then I have something to say.

[Terrence Bates]

Hello, this is Ben from Central Florida wondering what the administration is going to do about what's going on in Ethiopia, Somalia, Nigeria with all the Christians being.

[Andrew Colvett]

Persecuted and being killed.

[Terrence Bates]

Would love to know what Trump, Trump plans on doing and helping.

[Daisy Phelps]

Okay, so one, I think this is a really good question but two, I want everyone to know the reason I know about this situation is from Nicki Minaj who Has been talking about it everywhere. She's doing press conferences, she's tweeting. I know Riley and I have been talking about, about it a lot. Nicki Minaj is really, really in on this Ethiopian crisis for Christians, which is.

[Blake Neff]

Interesting because she's, she, she's not from. She's Trinidadian, I believe, right. From Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean.

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[Daisy Phelps]

Let me find out, though.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I believe so. I don't know if she. Now, now I'm looking at.

[Andrew Colvett]

Can I, can I just. While you're looking this up. So. On October 31, Trump designated Nigeria as a country of particular concern. On November 1, he threatened to halt all US foreign aid and deploy military guns a blazing if killings continue. November 2, ordered the Pentagon, referred to as Department of War, to prepare for possible action, including troops or airstrikes. And then November 21st labeled the violence a genocide against Christians during a Fox News interview. So he's been ratcheting up his language. And of course, this is about Boko Haram, which is a radical Islamist group.

[Blake Neff]

That is targeting, if you want, we talked about, about Ukraine being a somewhat unnatural country with Russian portions. Nigeria is, it's an insanely unnatural. So much of Africa, it literally is on a scale. If you start at the south of Nigeria, you have Christian areas. Mix, mix, mix. You get up into the north and it's not just Muslim, it's radical Muslim. They're trying to. Boko Haram roughly translates as Western knowledge forbidden or like education forbidden. There. They'll do things. They do insane atrocities. You know, you'll. They'll kidnap Christian girls and turn them into sex slaves for their soldiers. Nigeria should, very obviously, I'm probably going to start a diplomatic incident by just saying this. Nigeria should not be one country. Nigeria should probably be several countries. Maybe the Nigerians will get angry about this.

[Andrew Colvett]

But it's.

[Blake Neff]

You have.

[Andrew Colvett]

I mean, some estimates place it at almost 125,000 Christians have died between 2023 and 20. That'd be on the high.

[Blake Neff]

It's. It's a nation almost evenly split between Christians and Muslims, but I believe the Muslims are growing faster. So that's a very dire situation to be in if you're a Christian in the south. And then it's the same thing. Why is Ethiopia the same issue? Ethiopia is historically one of the oldest Christian countries in the world. It's been Christian since, I believe the three hundreds or the four hundreds.

[Andrew Colvett]

I have a story here and they.

[Blake Neff]

But the country is, it's large. It has a lot of Islamic areas. So it has a lot of civil strife, and Christians get caught in the crossfire. And certainly we're seeing that our administration has at least adopted it as something worthy of interest for us to care about the fate of Christians around the world.

[Andrew Colvett]

Philip in the Bible went to Ethiopia. Yes. And he baptized the Ethiopian eunuch as well. So one thing I will say, that was very telling. So I was actually got an Uber ride. The guy was Ethiopian. And we were talking about Islam in Ethiopia. And he said when he was growing up, there was a very small minority of Muslims in Ethiopia. And he remembers playing with them as a kid. They sort of minded their own business. They were a small, small minority. But now he said that's probably about like 30% in his area of Ethiopia. And he said, now they're taking over. They're taking over the streets. They're taking over public places. They're worshiping aloud. They've got the Muslim call to prayer. And he was like, I warn you in America, don't let this happen. They will take over.

[Blake Neff]

And this is places they can get a lot more aggressive about it. These are weak states. You don't have a police force that can come and enforce order. You can have an aggressive, assertive Islam take over a city, kill a lot of people. And what I will say is Charlie would oppose more U.S. boots on the ground in more countries. He didn't want foreign wars. But he would like that, that for once, America does treat the survival of Christians as a priority abroad. We did. We invaded Iraq, we did all these interventions, and it almost always Christians died in the crossfire. So it's nice for us to acknowledge that that's bad.

[Andrew Colvett]

By the way, Rich says that we forgot that the Ukraine was the breadbasket of the former ussr. That's a very fair point.

[Blake Neff]

That's true.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's where all the food was. That was fun.

[Blake Neff]

This is a lot of fun. People want more history content. We've got to find more history stuff. We could keep going if we want.

[Andrew Colvett]

But for radio and Real America's voice, we bid you adieu. Happy Thanksgiving. We will see you next week.

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