The Charlie Kirk Show, November 3, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — November 3, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Andrew Colvett (Executive Producer, filling in) with Jack Posobiec, Brandon Tatum, Bo Davidson, plus guests (via interview clips): Donald Trump, Elon Musk
Air Date: November 3, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show blends breaking political analysis, election coverage, and deep cultural commentary following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The hosts and guests dissect topics including the looming government shutdown, election races in New York and New Jersey, immigration controversies, the ideological rifts in American society, and the fallout from Charlie Kirk's death. Throughout, there is a strong focus on truth-telling, cultural decline, the rise of ideological extremism, and the need for perseverance in the face of political violence.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Government Shutdown and Immigration Debate

Timestamps: 00:55–04:35, 25:41–26:14, 43:20–44:36

• Multiple references to the ongoing government shutdown (33 days in), with concern over air traffic controllers and military pay looming as major pain points, especially as Thanksgiving approaches.

• Donald Trump, via interview cuts, places full blame on Democrats for refusing extensions and characterizes Schumer as "a kamikaze pilot" (37:47).

• Elon Musk (44:36): Explains how financial incentives attract illegal immigrants, arguing that the Democratic Party depends on continuing these incentives as a strategy to import new voters, and that cutting off such incentives would reduce illegal immigration.

  “If the hundreds, hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive…is turned off, the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.” — Elon Musk (44:36)

2. New York Election: Mamdani vs. Cuomo vs. Sliwa

Timestamps: 19:35–23:53

• Intense debate over what Republicans and moderates should do as the New York mayoral race tilts toward Zoran Mamdani, a progressive candidate with strong foreign-born support.

• Skepticism about consolidating Sliwa (Republican) and Cuomo (moderate Democrat) votes to block Mamdani.

• Hosts argue that immigration and demographic change have fundamentally shifted the electorate:

  "If you import the third world, you're going to get a guy like Zoram Mamdani." — Jack Posobiec (22:17)

  "This guy hates America. He hates…white culture. He wants to guilt-trip Cuomo for not visiting a mosque…that shouldn't be happening in America." — Charlie Kirk (22:36)

• Polling indicates that if non-Mamdani votes consolidated, they could block him, but such unity seems unlikely before election day.

3. New Jersey and Pennsylvania Races

Timestamps: 11:01–15:04

• Jack Posobiec reports on high turnout among the Orthodox Jewish community in Lakewood, NJ, possibly swinging close races.
• Discussions around voter mobilization and the significance of off-year elections in Pennsylvania and New Jersey (typically “bellwether” races).
• Trump’s Truth Social post urging Pennsylvanians to vote "no" on three state Supreme Court justices is analyzed for its impact.

4. Venezuela Crisis and U.S. Policy

Timestamps: 28:22–37:35

• The hosts discuss mixed messages from Donald Trump regarding intervention in Venezuela. While a naval flotilla is stationed nearby, Trump remains cagily non-committal about direct action.
• Discussion of U.S. taxpayer-funded campaigns that allegedly encouraged Venezuelan migration.
• Hosts critique how U.S. policy, including under Biden, contributed to the current migrant crisis ("we paid for advertising" targeting Venezuelan migrants — Jack Posobiec, 34:18).

5. The Aftermath of Charlie Kirk's Assassination

Timestamps: 53:09–66:56; 69:57–86:23

• Brandon Tatum (former police officer) lauded for providing calm, fact-based commentary and debunking conspiracy theories about the case.

• Discussion of the process after Charlie’s assassination: how identification occurred, confession by the accused to his parents, the role of forensics and digital evidence, and the nature of crowdsourced speculation online.

• Broad condemnation of ideological extremism, especially Antifa. Firebombing of a German politician’s car (with Antifa communique referencing "you MAGA freaks will follow Kirk into hell" — 66:56) is used to frame the global nature of left-wing extremism.

• Ongoing dehumanization of conservatives is described as a pervasive trend:

  “They call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi. I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country, but they call me Nazi, and the press is largely responsible for it. … Fake news." — Donald Trump (41:02)

• Conversation about the defense’s desire to ban cameras in the court during the trial of Kirk’s killer, with Erica Kirk (Charlie’s widow) insisting on transparency:

  "We deserve to have cameras in there. Why not be transparent? ... Let everyone see what true evil is.” — Erica Kirk (90:07)

6. Culture & Halloween / Education Decline

Timestamps: 77:01–79:46

• Critique of cultural decline and loss of dignity, symbolized in part by public school teachers dressing up in bloody/gory costumes for Halloween, which the hosts connect to the coarsening of civil society and lack of respect:

  “Now the kids are knowing what sexual orientation the teachers are... we've gone in a sense of decline.” — Brandon Tatum (79:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On political violence and Antifa:

  “Donald Trump said he was going to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. At what point are we going to start putting these people in prison?” — Brandon Tatum (81:02)

• On conspiracy theories post-assassination:

  “If you really want to know what's going on in the case… read the affidavit, read the probable cause statement… You cannot convince me that Keshe Patel and those guys are willing to throw away their entire career and legacy to botch the most important case of our lifetime. It just wouldn't happen.” — Brandon Tatum (56:37)

• On media and dehumanization:

  “The fake news… what they've done to our country is very bad. … No one believes the fake news. No one believes them.” — Donald Trump (41:02)

• On American culture:

  “Compare this to a teacher in the 1950s… That is seen as okay. … We are missing something crucial, and it's called dignity.” — Charlie Kirk (78:26)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Government shutdown and immigration (00:55–04:35, 25:41–26:14, 43:20–45:43)
• NYC mayoral race/Mamdani discussion (19:35–23:53)
• Venezuelan migrant policy (28:22–37:35)
• Assassination aftermath & legal process (53:09–66:56, 69:57–86:23)
• Cultural commentary/Halloween (77:01–79:46)
• Quote: Erica Kirk on courtroom cameras (90:07)

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Tone & Language

• Direct, combative, and unfiltered: The hosts pull no punches in critiquing political opponents and framing the stakes as existential for America.
• Personal and emotional: Discussion of Charlie Kirk’s assassination and cultural decline carries a strong element of grief, anger, and resolve.
• Mix of sarcasm/humor with gravity: Banter about sports and cultural "miracles" sits alongside mournful reflections on violence and loss.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show is a potent blend of campaign analysis, culture war commentary, and raw emotion in the wake of a high-profile political assassination. Key themes include the dangers of ideological extremism, the weaponization of government policy for political ends, and the resilience of American values amid unprecedented challenges. Notable guests like Trump and Elon Musk punctuate the show with provocative insights, while the in-studio team weaves together breaking news with their characteristic “brass tacks” approach. For anyone wanting to understand the conservative response to current events in November 2025, this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Brandon Tatum]

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[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

[Donald Trump]

Immigration. You campaigned on immigration. You largely won the election on a promise to close the border and you succeeded on illegal crossings at the southern border are at a 55 year low.

[Brandon Tatum]

If all this takes eliminating the filibuster, another Jim Crow relic, in order to secure the God given rights of every American, then that's what we should do.

[Jack Posobiec]

You yourself have used similar language to describe the filibuster you wrote on X in 2021. Quote, the filibuster is a Jim Crow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Era relic that has been used to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Stop progress for decades.

[John Jubilee]

Enough.

[Jack Posobiec]

By your own standards, shouldn't Republican senators heed Trump's call to eliminate the filibuster?

[Brandon Tatum]

The filibuster rule. It is a Jim Crow relic, but.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ultimately it's their decision.

[Brandon Tatum]

But keep in mind that the filibuster has already been eradicated or watered down. In other instances, we can make it.

[Donald Trump]

Much less expensive for people and give them much better health care.

Where is that plan willing to work.

With the Democrats on it? The problem is they want to give money to prisoners, to drug dealers, to all these millions of people that were allowed to come in with an open border from Biden and nobody can do that.

[Elon Musk]

The reason you have this standoff is because if the hundreds, hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to like to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of earth to these states. If that is turned off, the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.

[Brandon Tatum]

Wow.

[Elon Musk]

And then they will lose a lot of voters.

[Donald Trump]

I'm not going to do it by extortion. I'm not going to do it by being extorted by the Democrats who have lost their way. There's something wrong with these people.

So then what happens on November 15 when the troops don't get a patient?

Schumer is a basket case and he has nothing to lose. He's become, I just left Japan. He's become a kamikaze pilot.

Sounds like it's not going to get solved, the shutdown.

It's going to get solved. Yeah. Oh, it's going to get. So how we'll get it. So eventually they're going to have to vote.

You're saying the Democrats will capitulate?

I think they have to. And if they don't vote, that's their problem.

[Elon Musk]

So, like, in a nutshell, the Democratic Party wants to destroy democracy by importing voters. And the, you know, the Republican Party disagrees with.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the ruse is that if you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Don'T accept what they're doing, then you're a threat to democracy.

[Elon Musk]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

As they try to destroy democracy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

By importing voters.

[Donald Trump]

Is it your intent to deport people who do not have a criminal record?

We have to start off with a policy, and the policy has to be, you came into the country illegally, you're.

[Jack Posobiec]

Going to go out.

[Donald Trump]

However, you've also seen, you're going to go out, we're going to work with you, and you're going to come back into our country legally.

[Bo Davidson]

But if you want to pursue your.

[Charlie Kirk]

Promise to create the single largest deportation forts in American history or your promise.

[Bo Davidson]

To persecute and punish your political enemies, then you will have to get through me to do that here in New York City.

[Donald Trump]

Have some of these raids gone too far?

No, I think they haven't gone far enough because we've been held back by the judges, by the liberal judges that were put in by Biden and by Obama.

You're okay with those tactics?

Yeah, because you have to get the people out. You know, you have to look at the people. Many of them are murderers. Many of them are people that were thrown out of their countries because they were, you know, criminal.

We know that Mamdani does want to tax the rich more. Bring it up about 2%. He can't do that on his own. You've previously said that you wouldn't be raising taxes. Have you reconsidered that stance?

[Bo Davidson]

No.

[Donald Trump]

I would say one energetic rally does not get me to change my positions, I assure you. What if Mondami becomes mayor?

It's going to be hard for me as the president to give a lot of money to New York because if you have a communist running New York, all you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there. So I don't know that he's one, and I'm not a fan of Cuomo one way or the other. But if it's going to be between a bad Democrat and A communist. I'm going to pick the bad Democrat all the time. To be honest with you, a lot of the rhetoric. Look, they call me a Nazi all the time.

I'm not a Nazi.

I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country, but they call me Nazi and the press is largely responsible for it. I think one of the greatest terms I've ever come up with is fake news. What they've done to our country is very bad. They have to change Iran.

[Charlie Kirk]

Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not, you found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Show. Buckle up. Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's Monday. I'm Andrew Colette, executive producer of this fine show. I'm joined in studio today not by Blake Neff, no, by the one, the only, Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack Posobic, the mayor of Halloween town is here. It's election week and so of course there's no place I'd rather be than right here in the Charlie Kirk.

[Charlie Kirk]

We are going to be streaming. We are going to be covering the elections. And by the way, folks, I'm just going to brass tax it for you. We're hopefully going to get some input from Tyler Boyer from Turning Point Action, but we need more. We need more. I. The trend is not our friend. We're going to need. We're going to need. Jack, you know, we're going to need in a lot of these races, we're going to need a top of the ninth, one out home run from.

[Jack Posobiec]

Are you referencing anything right now?

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to need a miracle kind of reference. Save maybe an 11th from the Canucks. Well, yeah, well, there was. There was a couple miracles that happened. I mean, Andrew's.

[Jack Posobiec]

Andrew's a big Dodgers fan, folks, and this was a big weekend for him. A big weekend for America.

[Charlie Kirk]

They call it paycheck baseball. I call it having more heart than the other guys. Knowing how to win. Knowing how to win.

[Jack Posobiec]

Little. A little bit of this for the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Little bit of this helps sometimes. They're not gonna lie, especially baseball. But, you know, we just have to celebrate it. I mean, listen, I said in honor of Charlie, he was a big Cubs fan, that if the Cubs were. If the Cubs had advanced to the nlcs, I would have pulled for the Cubbies. I really would have but unfortunately, they. They lost to the Brewers. The Milwaukee Brewers. And. And then it was, you know, the Dodgers end up sweeping the brewers, and then it was America versus Canada. This is the only paradigm anybody needs to look at this through. And yeah, it was Halloween this weekend. There's a lot of news. There's a lot of things we're going to get to. But.

[Jack Posobiec]

But.

[Charlie Kirk]

But we have to start.

[Jack Posobiec]

Don't forget the hat that Blake training was wearing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Blake Tran.

[Jack Posobiec]

And he.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's a great American, good Christian man. And he wore the Charlie Kirk hat. And guess what? He actually threw that to Rob McCoy, I guess at some game.

[Jack Posobiec]

You serious?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. He threw his hat that he was wearing. So this was.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is the guy. He had. He wore the hat, had Charlie Kirk on it. After Charlie. After Charlie was murdered, he wore the hat. And by the way, was criticized for that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Of course. He was.

[Jack Posobiec]

He was. He was criticized. Took a lot of crap for it and then goes on to win the World Series. Just saying.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just saying.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just saying.

[Charlie Kirk]

Let's go ahead and play. I just have to do this cut. 82. This glorious moment. 82.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's the O2 pitch. Bounces one up the middle.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's to the back over the first.

[Jack Posobiec]

To beat the champ, you gotta knock him out. The Dodgers stand tall and win back to back titles.

[Charlie Kirk]

So our audience is probably currently revolting against me, but that's okay. Hey, by the way, the Americans won.

[Jack Posobiec]

I called Andrew like five minutes after that just to kind of check in with him. And I'm not even sure what if exactly what came out of. Of his mouth was.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was like words.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was more just emotions.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was like, I let my kids watch. My children.

[Jack Posobiec]

My children.

[Charlie Kirk]

The kids are freaking out. Like, we were having a great time, honestly, thinking about my grandfather. Anybody that's tempted to root against the Dodgers, I want you to remember that you're rooting for Canada. Okay? That's all I want to say.

[Brandon Tatum]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

So a traitor, basically.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, basically. Basically. To America, right? Ryan's got other thoughts. One of our. Our team members. It's fine. All right. I was.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, the Dodgers beat my Phillies. And. And I said. What did I say to you? I said, they're going to go all the way and I'm going to root for them because there's no shame in being beaten by the best.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep, they are. And by the way, they're already, like, favored for next year. I understand if you're not. There's Blake Trine and Sat. Charlie Kirk. I understand if you resent The Dodgers, because they do have more. I mean listen, they revenued over a billion dollars this year. So like you know, and Charlie was a big fan of the salary cap. Listen, if that happens, obviously it's going to change the calculus of how the Dodgers do things. But I mean they've got like a top rated farm system still. Even after trading away a lot of their best people, you know, to acquire some of the top end talent, they still have the best farm system and they still have the best international development system, the scouting system. So it's like, listen, you know, it's the Matthew principle. Those who have will have more, those who have little, even the little they have will be taken for. I that's honestly, that's sometimes the way things work. It's a dynasty, folks. I'm going to celebrate anyways. So Jack, over the weekend there was two big interviews that happened. Plus we've got New Jersey, we've got Virginia, we've got PA. There's big races in PA. Voting no in Pennsylvania.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no, no.

[Charlie Kirk]

Three judges, three radical communist judges get a 10 year term.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's a 10 year term but there's automatic what we call retention races. So you have, they have to go up for retention every 10 years to say will you be retained or not. And so 10 years, what we're hoping is that people will say no, no, no. And President Trump, huge true social yesterday all about this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep, yep. And so yeah to, to that point, let's see here. He said attention Pennsylvania. I'll try and get this in the chat so we have a visual of it. Attention Pennsylvania. On November 4th you can bring back the rule of law and stand up for the Constitution. There are three radical Democrat suprem justices on the ballot for a ten year retention vote. No, no, no. On liberal justices Donahue, Doherty and Wecht. Wetched wet wet. These activist judges unlawfully gerrymandered your congressional maps which led to my corrupt impeachments and locked you up during COVID by closing your small businesses, schools and churches. They let sex offenders out of prison and ruled for sleepy Joe Biden over and over and interfered in the 2020 election. It is time for justice vote no no no and retention of these woke judges. I couldn't agree more. I just wanted to bring that up because we haven't talked about it a ton the Pennsylvania Supreme Court justices. But Jack, you were in New Jersey this weekend campaigning for Chittarelli. Tell us about that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, we were there yesterday with the great Turning Point action team. First time ever Turning Point Action deployment to New Jersey. And people have to understand, right? So just, just to put the context on all of this, these are not supposed to be competitive races. The off year gubernatorial elections, Virginia and New Jersey the same year, after one party wins the White House, the Senate and the Congress are supposed to always go to the other party. That is always the trend. These are not supposed to be competitive elections. These are supposed to be. So if Republican wins the White House, it's supposed to be a shoo in for the Democrats in the next year because this is a bellwether. It's usually seen as the first check against an admin in power. By the way, after Obama, this is how we got Christie in New Jersey back in 2009. So that was that, that was that dynamic playing out. And so what we're seeing here now in New Jersey is a potential attempt to buck that trend. And that's why Turning Point action is going in. In New Jersey we're seeing these races. Atlas intel came in late in the week last week. This was the number one pollster, a plus plus and said it's a one point race. And so we had turning point action in there. And by the way, the, the Orthodox Jewish community of Lakewood, New Jersey came out in absolute droves. Now yesterday was the last early voting in New Jersey. However, the Orthodox Jewish community wasn't voting on Saturday because of Shabbos. So what did they do? They slammed and barnstormed. What you're looking at right now and, and for folks who are listening, there is a drone shot. They needed a drone shot to be able to cover the lines in Lakewood, New Jersey because so many people were out there voting and then because it was on the same day they were leaving Lakewood at the polls and then coming over the Turning Point Action rally where we had, we had food and we had. And yes, I did, I did bring Wawa for everyone there. Everyone there.

[Charlie Kirk]

How close is this to New York City? That image you were looking at, how. Lakewood.

[Jack Posobiec]

Lakewood. I mean, about an hour drive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, it's an hour drive. Okay. So the Orthodox community is still that large in that part of the, in that part of the state. That's, that's, I just don't know Jersey that well, candidly.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, New Jersey is not that big to begin with.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, totally. Anyway, so, so that, that's huge. Good for the Orthodox Jewish community. Coming out, I saw Scott Pressler was out there registering voters, getting them out.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pressler, we had Cliff Maloney, we had the early vote action. We had the NJ chase. So the PA chase has now become the NJ Chase. They're out there. They're knocking on doors and turning Point action. The incredible team Noah from Micah, Brandon Malley and a whole bunch of actually new new new hires and new acquirers, the Northeastern pen or the Northeastern Nuts. So it's Pennsylvania, New Jersey up is really exploding and expanding for turning Point action.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we and by the way, I think this zoron backlash to in New York because it's so close to it, plays into it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

By the way, that race is tightening and we should talk about that as well in the next segment. But the yeah, Zoran is losing a little bit of his luster still. Probably too far ahead to pull it off. But we can hope, listen, we can hope. We'll be right back. 100% American made and darn proud of it.

[Donald Trump]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Donald Trump]

We can'.

[Jack Posobiec]

I completely. I completely oppose this.

[Charlie Kirk]

I disavow.

[Jack Posobiec]

Completely disavow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Disavow.

[Jack Posobiec]

No more Thanksgiving erasure. We cannot have Thanksgiving erasure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Amen to that. I guess that was a favor to one of the team members. That team member will have to take credit for that song on their own.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is he one of these guys who puts up there. I know people who put up their Christmas lights on November 1st.

[Charlie Kirk]

I saw a report that Mariah Carey apparently makes like 2 to 3 million a year just on royalties from that song.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't believe it. I mean, excuse me. I don't. I don't. I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, no, I. I totally think it's true. And so she's like all about start Christmas at November 1st. Of course I'm not about it. Listen, as somebody with three kids, I will tell you they enjoy Christmas, but the parents are the ones that suffer. With two months of Christmas, it just needs to be one of a great Christmas season, the Nativity season. It's beautiful, but you only need once. You only need one. All right.

[Brandon Tatum]

No, I'm not.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm not. Now I will say the.

[Charlie Kirk]

What we do is put up Christmas lights.

[Jack Posobiec]

What we do, though, is that the tree stays up until epiphany. So we keep the tree up until the, the Feast of the Magi.

[Charlie Kirk]

What. What day is January 6th? January 6th. Oh, yeah. So, no, I'm okay with that. That's fine. I will say that I am pretty keen to get the tree out as soon as possible because we, like real Trees, not that plastic crap we do real and only real trees. But then it starts, you know, the needles start falling.

[Jack Posobiec]

You gotta take care of them. Andrew, you need your. You need your tree grow.

[Charlie Kirk]

We are getting off topic. This is a break show. We are going to keep the news coming. Let's go ahead and play Cup 44. This is Trump on Mamdani or Cuomo.

[Donald Trump]

What if Mandami becomes mayor?

It's going to be hard for me as the president to give a lot of money to New York because if you have a communist running New York, all you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there. So I don't know that he's one and I'm not a fan of Cuomo one way or the other. But if it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a Communist, I'm going to pick that bad Democrat all the time, to be honest with you.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, Jack, there's been a debate about what to do for Sliwa voters in New York City. Cernovich, who's a friend of ours, is very, very adamant that it should not be Sliwa's job to drop out of the race on Cuomo's behalf for Team Sanity's behalf. What's your take on that?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I get where Mike's coming from in the sense that it's Democrats that ran New York into the ground. Right. Giuliani was a great Republican. Bloomberg came in initially as a Republican, then as an Independent, and then de Blasio comes in and you've had this slew of Democrats and then Adams, and now we'll see what we get. Probably a communist coming up here tomorrow. So the fact that why should Republicans get the blame for Democrats running America's greatest city into the ground, I totally get that. From a political standpoint, though, I can also see the other side of the argument saying that, look, the entire city has been terraformed by demographics. And for all the people who say, oh, nine, 11, never, you know, never forget what happened and never forget the people that are voting for Zoram hamdani either. Number one, weren't Americans on 9 11. Zora Mumdani wasn't even an American citizen when Donald Trump was first elected to office.

[Charlie Kirk]

They don't have anything to remember in the first.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's nothing to remember. Or they're so young that it's like something they saw on YouTube, but they don't really have any direct memory of what it was like. So, you know, you've you what you've really got going on now is this sort of, this sort of dichotomy between the new New Yorkers and the old New Yorkers. And Donald Trump is an old New Yorker. He remembers the Cuomo family when it was Mario Cuomo, when it, when New York was the kind that had Mario Cuomo was in office right as governor and, and Curtis Lewa was out there doing what? Keeping the subways safe. And this was the era of Bernie Goetz. This was the era when crime and murder was so bad. This is the pre Giulian era. That's what the Guardian Angels were all about. And that's what Curtis was all about. So Mamdani comes in and this is an entirely new version of New York that's trying to fight old New York.

[Charlie Kirk]

Check it, check out throw up. Image 96. This is foreign born population. So the 62% there you go of his support comes from foreign born.

[Jack Posobiec]

As simple as that. If you, if you import the third world, you will get a guy coming.

[Charlie Kirk]

In like Zoramundani that eats rice with.

[Jack Posobiec]

His hands, eats rice with his hands, eats disgusting, disgusting slop with his hands. And by the way, turns around and you can go on his Twitter account and find all of his anti white tweets. And I don't mean from like years and years ago, I mean like from months.

[Charlie Kirk]

This guy, this guy hates America. He hates what he thinks is European capitalist, you know, white culture. He wants to, I mean he guilt tripped Cuomo for not visiting a mosque and not being able to name one. I mean that shouldn't be happening in America. You shouldn't have to sort of go pander to the, to the Muslim minority of your city. I mean, what are the 6, 700,000 Muslims now in New York City?

[Jack Posobiec]

This is like, and now it's part of like the voting base of the city.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, totally throw up. Image 95. This is real clear politics. This is a polling average has Mamdani up 14.7. However, you mentioned Atlas Intel. I wanted to throw this up. So this is a poll from the last five days of October. So it's pretty recent. It has a very, very tight race. And what's frustrating is that we've seen in the polling where if Cuomo and Sliwa would have consolidated their support, they would have beat him. And then it, he, then it looked like Mamdani was just so far ahead they couldn't even beat him. Well, this one shows that Cuomo is at 34%. He's only, he's only seven points behind Mamdani. Already and slee was at 24. If they combined, they would absolutely beat him. All right, we will be right back. Don't go anywhere.

[Bo Davidson]

I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's Voice. News headlines after initially considering the idea, President Trump says he will not attend the Supreme Court oral arguments on the case regarding his use of tariffs. Trump posted the following on Truth Social I will not be going to the court on Wednesday in that I do not want to distract from the importance of this decision. It will be, in my opinion, one of the most important and consequential decisions ever made by the United States Supreme Court. If we went, we will be the most richest, the most secure country anywhere in the world by far. Now, if we lose, our country could be reduced to almost third world status. President Trump also doubled down on how important tariffs are to his plan.

[Donald Trump]

Watch what happens to your economic plan if the Supreme Court invalidates your tariffs.

I think our country will be immeasurably hurt. I think our economy will go to hell. Look, because of tariffs, we have the highest stock market we've ever had because of tariffs, 401ks at the highest level. And this is millions and millions of people that we've ever had. 401ks. I think it's the most important subject discussed by the Supreme Court in a hundred years.

[Bo Davidson]

Now, also breaking overnight, a Mexican mayor who was outspoken against the drug cartels has been killed. Mayor Carlos Manzo was shot during a Day of the Dead celebration in his hometown. Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said this was a vile act. Manzo had called for brute force against the cartels and said before he was assassinated he didn't want to be a mayor killed, but action was needed against the cartels. Meanwhile, President Trump defended the crime crackdown across the country and elaborated on his recent comments that he made, saying he could send more than the National Guard into cities.

[Brandon Tatum]

Watch.

[Donald Trump]

Well, if you had to send in the army or if you had to send in the Marines, I'd do that in a heartbeat. You know, you have a thing called the Insurrection Act. You know that, right? Do you know that I could use that immediately? And no judge can even challenge you on that. But I haven't chosen to do it because I haven't felt we need it.

So you're going to send the military into American cities?

Well, if I wanted to, I could. If I wanted to use the Insurrection act, the Insurrection act has been used routinely by presidents. And if I needed it, that would mean I could bring in the army, the Marines, I could bring in whoever I want, but I haven't chosen to use it. I hope you give me credit for that.

[Charlie Kirk]

That the studio is trying to make up for the. The Christmas. The. The preemptive Christmas song with a. I guess said a fall song. I. I could feel it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow. This is for you, Jack. Apparently.

[Jack Posobiec]

Beautiful. Beautiful.

[Donald Trump]

All right.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was gonna say, let's, like, there's great November songs. November Rain, Guns and Roses.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a good. That's a good point.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, Michael, it's like Trump's favorite music video, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Brandon Tatum]

Donnell.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really a really interesting gal. So here's the deal. So you want to get into this Venezuela stuff. You're hot on this Venezuela story because it does seem this could be big. Little bit of context. A little bit of context. Here. It. You know, there's the Marco Rubio came out and said, we are not invading Venezuela. It was fake news. There's a Miami Herald article that basically said that we were prepar to invade Venezuela. There is a. A warship just off the coast of Venezuela.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's a whole naval flotilla.

[Charlie Kirk]

Flotilla. So there. There was. There's obviously been multiple strikes on These drug boats that are apparently, you know, have narco traffickers on, which are amazing. Yeah, which are amazing. I totally support it, by the way. We should have been doing it years ago. But you, most people don't because they have no courage.

[Jack Posobiec]

And some of which, by the way, are semi sub. They're like submarines basically.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, they're like, oh, and they, they'll say, it's just a fishing boat. No, it's a submarine. Semi submersible. To try to evade.

[Charlie Kirk]

So Norah o' Donnell asked two interesting questions. One would lead you to think that we are going to war or something. And then the next he kind of brings it back to, no, we're not. So let's, let's discuss this. Let's play cut 43.

[Donald Trump]

First are Maduro's days as president.

Number I would say, yeah, I think so. Yeah.

And this issue of potential land strikes in Venezuela, is that true?

I don't tell you that. I mean, I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but I, you know, I wouldn't. Why would you be inclined to say that I would do that, but because I don't talk to a reporter about whether or not I'm going to strike.

[Charlie Kirk]

I love that he does that, by the way. He always says, we'll see what happens. He's not going to show his cards to some reporter on 60 Minutes. You can ask 15 times if you want to. He's not going to do it. But then she straight up asks, are we going to war against Venezuela? Play cut 45.

[Donald Trump]

We going to war against Venezuela?

I doubt it. I don't think so. But they've been treating us very badly. Not only on drugs. They've dumped hundreds of thousands of people into our country that we didn't want. People from prisons. They emptied their prisons into our company country. They also, if you take a look, they emptied their mental institutions and their insane asylum into the United States of America because Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of our country.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so Jack, this is a big issue that you've been focusing on. So why, why does it feel like he's, he's kind of saying both things here?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, so, I mean, look, when you look at the naval force that we've assembled in the Caribbean, this is quite substantial. And there was, and basically this operational area declared around Puerto Rico, so military exclusion zone for military operations that was declared, saying that, hey, there's a potentiality for operations here that could be coming up. And you've got, you've got an entire, again, this naval flotilla that's there, multiple destroyers. You've got an amphibious assault. Correct. Aircraft. So you've got. Which has an entire Marine expeditionary unit on it. Not big enough to, you know, launch an invasion or something like that, but, you know, sizable. Sizable complement of marines as. As well as drones as fighters and the potential for U. S Special forces. There's been this story running around that the U. S. Has signed off on covert operations within Venezuela. Hopefully those are targeting the cartel leaders, which we love. I'd love to see those in Mexico as well, by the way. Way. And. And coast guard fast attack ships all throughout the area. So, so does this mean then that. That there's going to be, you know, people are saying that, look, we've seen a lot of. And you get a lot of this in Florida.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's a lot of people who have come from Venezuela, come from Cuba, they've gone to Florida.

[Charlie Kirk]

So many.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and this is a huge issue down there. So for the rest of the country are thinking like, why is all of a sudden this. This pops up. But you go down to these pockets of Florida and they will. And hundreds of thousands of people, by the way, and they really, really want to get rid of Maduro, really want to. Really want to get rid of the regime in Havana. And so that is something that, you know, obviously it comes up a lot during election time. It comes up a lot during these election years where they say, hey, we've got. When Castro was around, right? You know, we got to get rid of Castro, et cetera, et cetera. And then the US Tried with obviously no negative effect, shall we say. Here's an interesting piece of this, though. So Maduro and Sagar and Jetty has come out and he and Charlie were good friends and he's been doing a lot of reporting on this. And a piece that came out on his Twitter that he put up and because Trump had said something about, oh well, you know, Venezuela is invading the United States. And they certainly were during. Under. Under the Obama administration. And that's absolutely something that was going on. However, here's what Sager pointed out, a side story that I found in my reporting. Maduro has been irked to interlock your interlocutors of these diplomats. The claim that he invaded the United. Telling America you funded your own invasion. And he points out that it turns out that the US Government actually did fund a large ad campaign for Venezuelan migrants in 2023 to a large Colombian newspaper.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and people have to appreciate there is you know, the diaspora of Venezuelans in the last couple of decades, Colombia is full of them.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right, exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, so by advertising in Colombia you're, you're advertising to Venezuelans. Like Venezuelans, if you're, if you're a refugee in Colombia, if you will come to America.

[Jack Posobiec]

And we saw all this going on during the, the Biden years. These were the, these were the, the caravans that were coming up through Mexico. This was all. And we kept asking, where's the money for all this coming from? Well, it turns out it was coming from the U. S. Taxpayers that USA USAID had a contract beginning in September 2023 and ending in July 2024 with Colombian newspaper El Pais whose purpose was to, quote, disseminate a new narrative about the Venezuelan migrant population. The grant required the paper to document and success stories of migrants accessing the formal market using formats and media regularly consulted by business groups. So basically we paid for advertising.

[Charlie Kirk]

We.

[Jack Posobiec]

When I say we, I mean the Biden administration and Mayorkas by the way, who. And Blake had that great tweet about him. He said this guy, you know, I'm not sure if we can bring him up on criminal charges, but he's a traitor. Just someone who totally facilitated the whole scale invasion of the United States and they use taxpayer money. They ran it through USAID and yes, yes, they were telling Venezuelans come to the United States. So Maduro's got an interesting point here where he says, wait a minute, your government told them to come?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, no, it's an interesting point and I, but I do think it's interesting. But by the way, just to put a pin on like a, put wrap a bow around what you're saying, I mean Mayorkas 100% a traitor. The fact that there's not a law that we can lock him up on or may not be a law. We'll see. I think it's worth exploring the extent of which the law is, is capable of putting him in prison. The fact that there's not though is really highly concerning. And there should be one because the guy facilitated probably on behest of the Biden administration. Who knows if it was even Joe Biden by the way. It was probably just some of the woke staffers that he surrounded himself with. But yeah, he facilitated the large scale invasion of the United States. Now there's a lot of really good Venezuelan people and there's a lot of thugs. I mean there's a ton, a ton of gang activity. When to it comes when a country falls into disrepair like Venezuela has fallen. The whole country becomes corrupt and dangerous and violent, and it ends up being run by essentially warlords, when this is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where trend Aragua came from, of course.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, but, but what's interesting is that Trump also says he thinks his days are number Maduro's. And the. So the question you might then have is, well, if we're not going to invade, how do you get rid of Maduro? Well, there's a lot of reporting that would suggest that Maduro is willing to take any sort of deal to sort of flee into exile, if you will. He might money, he might take assurances of his own safety. The guy just might be tapping out. I mean, if you ratchet up the pressure and you put this whole flotilla off his coast and you start, you know, tightening the screws, you can get a guy like Maduro out if you want. I'm not saying we should, but I'm just saying it's very interesting that President Trump is saying, I don't think we're going to be invading.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, let me, let me play devil's advocate then, because, you know, we've seen situations like this as well where we played the regime change game game. And you know, as you talk about Iraq, you talk about even Vietnam in the past where we tried to do this, Libya, Libya, you'd go down the list. Syria, etc. And so if Maduro leaves, what, who's then going to stop trend Aragua from just taking over the entire country?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, I guess the, the, the hope would be that the opposition candidate that just got the Nobel Peace Prize would be the one. But, you know, who, who knows, Jack? Who knows? And I think I am anti regime change.

[Jack Posobiec]

You push one of these things, oh, it's going to be great. It's going to be great. And then sud. It's like, well, everything blows up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I totally agree. I mean, listen, you know, you and I talked about this last week, but Rich Barris had that polling that came out that the American people are basically fed up talking about foreign things.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Foreign policy is. We are exhausted by it. And I don't want it to come off that President Trump was only talking about that. We are obviously in the midst of a government shutdown. I think we're what, 33 days into a shutdown? President Trump talked about that as well. Let's play 46.

[Donald Trump]

I'm not going to do it by extortion. I'm not going to do it by being extorted by the Democrats who have lost their way. There's something Wrong with these people.

Then what happens when the troops don't get a pace?

Humor is a basket case and he has nothing to lose. He's become. I just left Japan. He's become a kamikaze pilot.

Sounds like it's not going to get solved, the shutdown.

It's going to get solved. Yeah. Oh, it's going to get. So how we'll get a sub. Eventually they're going to have to vote.

You're saying the Democrats will capitulate?

I think they have to. And if they don't vote, that's their problem.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, kamikaze.

[Charlie Kirk]

Kamikaze. Well, Chuck Schumer is kind of like he's become a clown really of modern politics because he's so feckless and he's so controlled by the left wing flank of his party. He's done. He's done. And if AOC ran against him tomorrow, she, she'd win.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, she would. And she knows that too. He would be against her. He knows that. So it's either he goes along with everything they want or they will primary him and he's out. By the way, I don't know if we mentioned but the breaking news about Nancy Pelosi talking about the old guard leaving.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean we've heard this a few times. I remain a little bit skeptical. She's expected to make the announcement tomorrow, which we'll see. Newsmax is reporting it. So if the reporting's wrong. Wrong, we'll see. But you know, I don't know. Basically, you know what's interesting with this whole Mamdani thing is that we've basically got one. We've got, you know, one hold. I mean there's a few holds out in the, in Congress, but Schumer's one of the holdouts that has not endorsed him. And so anyways, here it goes. Let me quickly tell you guys about Tax Network usa. The government needs your money because they need more money. Money. If you owe the IRS back taxes, they can garnish your wages or levy your bank accounts. They can even seize your retirement or take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. Call the professionals at Tax Network usa. Their lawyers, their tax lawyers and enrolled agents are experts in powerful programs that can help you eliminate your tax set altogether. Tax Network USA is A rated and has saved over $1 billion for their clients. Whether you owe a few thousand or a few million, there's some of you out there. I'm sure they can help you. It's just one phone call away. You can Start the process of stopping the threatening demand letters, stopping the aggressive collection calls, and resolving your tax matters once and for all. But you have to act now while you still have options. For a free consultation, call Tax Network USA, Tax Network USA, tnusa.comtnusa.com or 1-800-958-1000. We'll be right back. Relentless in spirit. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk show. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show here with Jack Posobic, host of Human Events Daily. It's daily, right? You do it every day. You do the show every day?

[Jack Posobiec]

I do, actually, every single day of the year, Every single day of the week, sometimes multiple times.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to get to this clip again. I just, I want to do, I think we're going to transition to Elon Musk and some clips and maybe we'll get to those an hour or two. But this, this is really pertinent to what we've been dealing with lately, Jack. And you know, the, the dehumanization of conservatives. Play Cup 47.

[Donald Trump]

A lot of the rhetoric, look, they call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi. I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country, but they call me Nazi. And the press is largely responsible for it. The fake news, what they've done. I think one of the greatest terms they've ever come up with is fake news. What they've done to our country is very bad. They have to change around now. Nobody believes the fake news. Nobody believes them.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, yeah, the dehumanizing rhetoric. Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist, xenophobe, homophobe, whatever kind of phobe they do. And Trump, Trump's absolutely right for calling it fake news because there's a lot of it in the Democrat Party establishment media.

[Jack Posobiec]

Almost like, almost like, hey, fascist, catch.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, almost like. We're going to welcome back national radio in two seconds.

[Brandon Tatum]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jack Posobiec]

Seriously?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we, we ended up, I ended up catching like a later flight, about an hour, hour and a half delayed. But it is, it is like little by little starting to percolate.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's gonna pile up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And it's gonna pile up, especially with November 5th, 15th, that's going to be the big cutoff date. So I would not expect any movement on this till then.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me that the air traffic controllers part of the shutdown is going to happen right before Thanksgiving?

[Charlie Kirk]

That's what I'm telling you.

[Jack Posobiec]

The largest, the single.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, that one actually might start happening sooner than that. But that's when the November 15th is when the military is not going to get their paycheck.

[Jack Posobiec]

So military isn't get the paycheck. The air traffic controllers go down right before Thanksgiving. Okay, that I could see that being an issue. And that's why Sean Duffy's been out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Talking about a thousand percent. So here. But here's Elon Musk. He went on with Joe Rogan for like a three hour conversation. It was a real long one. I still haven't gotten all the way through it, but I found it amazing and fascinating. So let's go ahead and play. This is Elon Musk chiming in. Why Democrats do not want to end the shutdown and why actually why they are digging their heels in about making sure that illegal immigrants that are under temporary protected status or whatever classification that Joe Biden just was giving out like candy at Halloween when he was president is really the deep motivator here for the Democrat Party. Play cut fiber.

[Elon Musk]

The reason you have this, the standoff is because if the hundreds, hundreds of Billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to like to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of earth to these states. If that is turned off, the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Elon Musk]

And then, then, then they will lose a lot of voters.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just love that Joe Rogan reaction. Wow. Wow. It's like you've never heard of this before. You have to kind of remember this. As many people as Joe Rogan talks to, he just like doesn't hear kind of basic, kind of. I mean you maybe you think that's cynical. That's not cynical. It's just obvious. If you've been living on this side of the aisle and doing what we do for as long as we have, have, that's just obvious math that's just connecting two dots that are, that are so obvious. But then you realize when Elon goes into a setting like that and Joe Rogan's mind is blown, you're like, oh, so much of the country still doesn't get the obvious truth right in front of their eyes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And if anything, you know, if there's a silver lining at all to New York City falling to this foreign born communist.

[Charlie Kirk]

Don't do the George. Well thing. Don't do the George. No, it's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

But it's just, just when you see a guy who, who's just obviously anti white, obviously is going to create a, he's campaigning on a two tiered system of justice whereby if you are affluent, if you're seen as someone who is successful, if you're upper middle class, if you're, if you're a white Christian or a male.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're straight, you know you're straight. Right. Then you. He was campaigning at gay bars this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Weekend at like 1am in the morning. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean he knows where his voters are.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and so he is going to basically declare open season on you. And he, it's, I think Blake said it in the chat over the weekend, his voting base are the gimmickrants. The gimmick.

[Charlie Kirk]

Gimmicks.

[Jack Posobiec]

The gimmick. And so we are going to take from you and give to you. This is the essence of all.

[Charlie Kirk]

We were not born here, we did not build this country. But we're going to move here and then we're going to use the left wing strategy of grievance politics to make you the villain in this whole story. Even though you did nothing wrong, you were just born here, working your job raising your children, it doesn't matter. These people came and now you have to take care of them because we have have a stupid government. And Elon's in our immigration program. Our immigration system is completely jacked.

[Jack Posobiec]

And Elon's pointing out that this is a use case that they want to then expand and franchise out to the rest of the country 1,000%.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you know, it reminds me of a, something Elon Musk said, I think on his last Joe Rogan interview where he basically said why he bought Twitter. And there's, you know, he probably bought it for multiple reasons, but he realized that there was an ideology that normally would have said stayed totally cordoned off in San Francisco that was getting piped to the rest of the world through, through X and Twitter. Hour two. Coming up next, we've got Brandon Tatum. Officer Brandon Tatum coming. Don't go anywhere.

[Bo Davidson]

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[Bo Davidson]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Bo Davidson]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Bo Davidson]

That's it.

[Jack Posobiec]

We'll be right.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this fine show, back for hour two along with Jack Posobic, as you already heard and joined in studio. What'd you say?

[Jack Posobiec]

Hola. Como stasi.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, here we go. Already starts, huh? Already starts. The.

[Jack Posobiec]

Anthony, you don't get the use, stud.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, okay. No formal. No formal.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, it's dead for you.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're joined also by the great Brandon Tatum, the officer Brandon Tatum. Welcome back, man.

[Brandon Tatum]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's great having you in Phoenix area because, you know, just like, hey, come on over.

[Brandon Tatum]

Yeah, I'm just up the road, man.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, I don't think you live particularly close to the, to the studio, so it still is a bit of a sacrifice. But we appreciate it, man.

[Brandon Tatum]

No, it's my pleasure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, listen, man, you have been, I mean, I don't want to give some of these people too much time. It's not my job to do that. But you have been tremendous, I think in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination and some of the conspiracy theories that have been spreading. You have been tremendous in just adding a voice of common sense, I would say, because you were an officer, you had investigated crime scenes, you've investigated murders. You've been the first guy on a scene that has to make sense of what's just happened. And I think you, you have brought so much just common sense, but, but really just wisdom and kind of a calm, steady voice. And I think more people need to know about your videos. I think more people need to be watching you on YouTube because it's weird when you're in this situation and you talk to people that actually know what they're talking about or that we're there or that you, I mean, all of our friends were there, but then you. So you have the first Hand accounts. Then you actually have there' legal team that's coordinating with the authorities and you see it all. And then you see what people are saying online. You're like, well, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. And, you know, and then you're, you know, we're in a position where, yeah, we. It's an ongoing investigation. There's only so much we can say. There's, you know, things that could be said and used against us in the court of law if we say, say certain things. But you've been tremendous. And I just wanted to say thank you for that. That. And, you know, from that vantage point, tell us, like, kind of what you're seeing, what are some of the common mistakes that people are making and kind of as they're processing this. And I just want to say one last thing, and then I'm throwing it to you. I do have a lot of grace for. Because a lot of people out there are not investigators. They don't have a law enforcement background, and they love Charlie and they want to get truth, they want to get justice. So I do have a lot of grace. I understand why there's distrust us, but please, the floor is yours.

[Brandon Tatum]

Well, thank you so much for saying that. You know, this stuff is very simple. You know, all you have to do is have some type of experience like I do. I was trained on investigating. I investigated crimes myself. I testified in court. And you have that. Plus you have wisdom and you're reasonable and you believe in God. So then you have godly wisdom and how you should articulate or put out information or disseminate information to the people that God has given you that follows you. And, and like you said, Andrew, like, I understand that people are hurting and people are looking for answers, and people don't know what they're talking about a lot of the times. And they're doing it in good faith, but they're just lost. It's like almost every police shooting that I cover. A lot of people don't understand use of force policy. They don't understand the law. They don't understand how the law is prosecuted. And so they are off on it, even though they have good intentions. Now, there's a difference between someone who's off on it in good faith with good intentions versus someone who know better and just out there spewing hate, hatred, and stupidity because they want to get clicks and subscribers and make money off of it.

[Jack Posobiec]

That.

[Brandon Tatum]

That is the difference. That is the difference between the anger point for me is that if somebody just don't know, I get it. I mean, people don't understand investigations, but then people who should know better that saying it is the ones that bothered me the most. This stuff is very simple. You're like, if you really want to know what's going on in the case, as a civilian person. Right. We don't have access to records that they submit they submitted to court. We don't have text messages. We haven't. None of these people that are out here talking has interviewed anybody. Witnesses, suspects, parents. They have no evidence. They didn't look at forensics, so they have no idea what they're talking about. However, if you, as a civilian person, if you want to know or get a synopsis of what could happen and what evidence they may have, read the affidavit, read the probable cause statement that was submitted to court. When you write a probable call statement, as a law enforcement agency, you cannot lie or deceive or put information in that's not true. Because when you get to trial and they have the initial hearing, if you don't have evidence to what you've said, which you've sworn under penalty of perjury, that is true, your case is completely thrown out. And you cannot convince me somebody like Keshe Patel and those guys are willing to throw away their entire career and legacy to botch the most important case of our life, lifetime. It just wouldn't happen.

[Jack Posobiec]

Can I ask you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Go ahead.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, and. And in cases you've covered or worked on, you know, worked on directly or covered. I know you've obviously. You mentioned police and you have covered so many use of force cases, which is another example where misinformation comes up so many times when. And people believe they're, you know, choose your own narrative. It almost comes comes to. Have you ever seen a case where a father turn his own son into law enforcement like this? Because I. I've been scratching my brain and that's really not something you see a lot.

[Brandon Tatum]

Yeah, I've never. Now, it could be possible depending on if the father was involved in something, you know, all of that stuff. But in this case, that's not the case.

[Donald Trump]

Right.

[Brandon Tatum]

This is not a lover's triangle or something weird situation where the dad is involved in the crime. This is a mom who identified. You got to think the FBI didn't kill, catch him initially. They didn't know who he was for 33 hours.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tyler Robinson is on the loose.

[Brandon Tatum]

He's on the loose.

[Jack Posobiec]

And they have these Images that.

[Brandon Tatum]

And they're getting tips online, too. People don't understand that. They got 10,000 tips or something like that, which they followed up on. But he's online, he's out there, and they don't. They haven't identified him yet. His mother identifies him. She confirms with his father that is him. The father convinces him to turn himself in. They communicate with the deputy sheriff announcement, neighbor who coordinated him to be to turn himself in without obviously the SWAT team coming to his house and doing a dynamic entry. So I find it to be unreasonable to believe that somehow his dad is. Want to get him the death penalty. For what reason? When you turn your son in knowing that he committed a crime such as this, which is an assassination, an intentional murder, he premeditated it, and he did it for political reasons. When you say, I'm going to turn my son into the authorities, you are turning him in knowing he can get the death penalty. No father would do that unless they are pretty confident that their son has done this. Now, according to the FBI, he actually confessed to his parents that he did it. Now, there's a difference between a confession and pleading not guilty in the court of law. A person can confess to their parents, but you can plead not guilty because you want to not, you know, end up getting a death penalty. So in my opinion, I think the fight is not whether he's guilty or not. The fight is to try. Try to not allow him to get the death penalty. Which is why they didn't want the cameras in the court, which is why they wanted to dress in plain clothes.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're making way too much sense. And by the way, you're making way too much sense. Brandon Tatum, stop making so much sense.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's in addition to that, we have that Discord chat that came out right where he said, you know, I don't have it in front of you, but it's something to the extent of, hey, guys, I don't know if you saw the news, but it was me in Utah.

[Brandon Tatum]

They had 20 people on the Discord chat, which the FBI is investigating, all 20 of them. And the thing is, people don't understand. People don't understand forensics, right? There's a forensic extraction of all the content on Discord from his communication with him with that chat and every chat he's been on. And all 20 people in every chat that they've been on. Also the electronic communication between him and his boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever, it's a boy, the transgender person, the communication that people don't have access to. Because they showed us synopsis. But they have extracted all the content from his phone and, and the other guy's phone in the relationship. And also no one. I know that it. So some people that have never investigated anything and they look at, they say, well, it's kind of confusing the way he's communicating with the transgender person. But unless you have evidence of how he communicates in his other text communication, you cannot make a true judgment on whether or not it's suspicious, him using the word vehicle and different things of that nature.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, not only that, but you're talking forensics. But that would also, that would also. Now, my experience is more oconus, right. Because an intel officer, but it's, you know, a lot of the same metadata, the same electronic collection that we'd be using so they could track his cell phone. And if he had gone to that, that. And, and there's this new witness that's come out that said they spotted someone on that roof. I think it was a week prior. And they're what, of course they're going to do with that cell phone. Track the forensics. Okay, did he go a week prior? Was that him?

[Brandon Tatum]

They made a statement in the affidavit that they submitted to the court that he did. They found on his phone phone searches and Google Maps searches of that university, and they can tell if he's searching, that is how much time he spends on the site. And all of those things are part of the investigation. If people would just let them do their job and if in the court of law, with cross examination, they're not doing the job properly, then let's go after you know them and judge them on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Elon Musk]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to Charlie Kirk show radio stations across the country. We're joined by by the officer Brandon Tatum and Jack Posobic's in town for election night streaming. So this is gonna be your one stop shop for all things election night related. We got PA, NJ, VA, we got AZ. There's a bunch of stuff going on on Tuesday night New York City. So make sure you tune into the Charlie Kirk show and thought crime. We'll do the maybe we'll do the thought crime. Oh it's the super stream. That's gonna be the super Stream super stream. Election night Super Stream stream. So Jack, you got a little bit of breaking news here. I want to get to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, so there is a letter coming out of Germany, of Hamburg, Germany where a afd. So a right wing politician's car was just firebombed. And there's a letter that's been now posted claiming responsibility for the attack, saying it was carried out by members of the Antifa network in Hamburg, Germany. Folks, remember at the White House recently, I was about talking, telling the President United States to him to his face that that Antifa was formed in Germany. This has been their base of operations, the foreign terrorist organization. And in. And there's a full long letter explaining how they conducted this attack. It was engulfed by flames. I don't believe anyone was hurt, but it was a firebombing. But listen to this line because they made a specific, direct reference to Charlie in this line released by Antifa. All you, you MAGA freaks will follow Kirk into hell. And that's, that's not being put out directly by Antifa. Directly by their German arm after conducting a targeted assassination attempt. A firebombing on a car.

[Charlie Kirk]

And no, no injuries. Didn't work.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm not. I think they got the car but no one was in it when it, when it went off. So I'm not sure what happened there. So this is the thing may have gone off early.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is what bothers me. There was that Aaron Burnett clip that went around and I do want to keep getting into some of the actual specifics of the case with you and get your officer brain on them, Tatum here. But this is what bothers me. There was an Aaron Burnett clip that went around saying like, oh well, we all know that political violence comes from the. Right. Because there was this SPLC study that didn't include all the Tesla firebombings or anything like that. And it was run by an Antifa guy that had connections. Antifa. The point is she also referenced the fact that they don't have a hierarchy like the Proud Boys or whatever. Right. So she's. She. And what they have to understand is that this is an ideology that is intentionally. Well, it's a network that's an intentionally decentralized movement without a hierarchy that you would see at a corporate boardroom or something. Right. Because the ideology is so pervasive and so powerful when you fully buy into it. You don't need to be manually pushing the buttons internationally to make people do this crazy stuff. What they do is they, they spread information. They have literature in Seattle and Portland, they have, even have bookstores in Chicago, New York, same where they have bookstores where they spread this anti fascist literature and their pamphlets and their books. There's Dr. Antifa out of Rutgers as part of this network.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're going to, we're going to get this video up. I mean this, this car and a few cars next to it are just burned to a crisp. The whole, the whole engine block is gone. This, this is if, if people had been in these cars, they'd all be dead.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right?

[Jack Posobiec]

This is real.

[Brandon Tatum]

It's very, it's very interesting that somehow we miss this in America in the conversation that that's being had in the, on social media. I, I, I don't know why we're kind of passively allowing antifa and these knuckleheads to kind of get away with what they have been doing and the threats that they've made. These people are nutty. And this is one of the reasons why I'm, I'm, you know, quite convinced, convinced that the gentleman that's, well, I wouldn't call him a gentleman. I really can't stand him. But the person that killed Charlie, the reason why I'm very convinced that he is the one that did it because that ideology is consistent with violence. They tried to kill other politicians. Obviously he assassinated Charlie. They wish that they can do it to more people. This is their ideology. This is what they represent. This is the hatred that's in their hearts for people like us who, who are just exposing truth and standing up for American values. And their whole intent is to eliminate us. They mock Charlie after his death. They go on Halloween and have these costumes with, you know, kind of showing a death similar to Charlie. You got the school board or teachers here in Vail school district in Tucson that were all dressed up like Charlie that got killed, you know, and it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Crazy, that particular story. I'm holding out some hope.

[Jack Posobiec]

Those two, no teacher should be dressing like. First of all, whatever it was they.

[Charlie Kirk]

Dressed over last year.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, so after Trump got shot, they dressed right?

[Brandon Tatum]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Here's my theory on it, by the way, because I took a bunch of incoming on it over the weekend for outing these professors teachers. First of all, I'm never been into the blood and gore thing for Halloween, let alone when you have teachers that are supposed to be raising the next generation doing the blood and gore thing. I'm trying to give some space because some people don't make that connection. Okay, okay. But for example, we were doing trick or treating this weekend and we came up to a house. Most of them were like fun fairy tale houses. There was a Barbie house, like, okay, you're not in a Barbie. But at least it's not creepy and weird that we came up to this one with this guy who literally had like a demon head, like a second head that he'd pro, like a prosthetic that he had. And it was creepy and dark. And my wife looked at me and she goes, we're avoiding that house. Don't go anywhere near it. I was like, absolutely. So we took our kids around the other way. We'll be right back with Brandon Tatum.

[Bo Davidson]

I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's Voice. NEWS headlines. Well, the government shutdown continues and people went their first weekend without snap benefits. Funding for snap benefits ran out over the weekend and even some new restrictions were going to take effect. New work requirements were coming in for able bodied adults, among other others. President Trump spoke on the snap benefits issue on 60 Minutes, and here's what he had to say.

[Donald Trump]

We are now approaching the longest shutdown in American history. Democrats fault under your presidency. We're talking about more than a million federal workers who are not getting a paycheck, including our air traffic controllers. You see there's traffic snarls out at the airports now this weekend, food aid for more than 42 million million Americans is set to expire. What are you doing as president to end the shutdown?

All we're doing is we keep voting. I mean, the Republicans are voting almost unanimously to end it and the Democrats keep voting against ending it. You know, they've never had this. This has happened like 18 times before. The Democrats always voted for an extension, always saying, give us an extension, we'll work it out. They've lost their way. They become crazed lunatics. And all they have to do, Nora, is say let's vote.

[Bo Davidson]

Meanwhile, Illinois lawmakers are clashing with the Trump administration over a new law that blocks federal agents from making immigration arrests in and around courthouses. The bill, which also slaps a $10,000 fine on violators, is being touted as a protection for immigrants, but it could set off a major legal showdown between state and federal authority authorities. Supporters say it's about human rights. Critics call it a direct challenge to federal law. The legislation now heads to Governor J.B. pritzker's desk for signature. And in other news, President Trump has ordered the Department of War to prepare for possible operations in Nigeria, citing the mass killings of Christians in the country. In a truth social post over the weekend, the president said if The Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians. The USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria and may very well go into that now disgraced country, guns ablazing to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities. I'm hereby instructing our department of war to prepare for possible action. If we attack, it will be fast, vicious and sweet. Just like the terrorist thugs attacked our cherished Christians. Those are all your headlines. We now return to the Tollywood program.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jack Posobiec]

Maybe read the room a little bit, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Read the freaking room. The biggest, largest political assassination, the most high profile in a generation since the 1960s in this country, who happens to be my dear friend, my like partner and colleague and all of these things. Like, I'm sorry if I get a little bit primed and I'm a little bit upset about.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's the same design as the freedom shirt. That's, that's the reason that it seems directly.

[Brandon Tatum]

And then they didn't, didn't they upload it more recently? Recently?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well don't they. So they, they said that they wore it last year. So I waited and waited and then I, I mean listen in my inbox, my DMs are flooded with people like don't, don't believe them. It's, it's AI. And look at this foot and look at this. So, but I mean, I have no idea. The point is I saw what looked to be a credible reference to last year, so I updated the thread and you know, people are coming after me for that too. But it's like, listen, I'm just trying to be a good faith operator. I'm posting, posting the what I believe to be the same image from last year, but I still like. And everybody then made the point like whoa, after Trump's assassination attempt, like, yeah, like still inappropriate that year. I mean, and I just keep coming back to this point. This is where I'll leave it.

[Jack Posobiec]

In school shootings too, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Your teachers. And you're dressing up like that in.

[Charlie Kirk]

A school like studio. I just, I don't know, find me an image of like a, just a run of the the mill teacher from the like 50s, 60s or 70s. Like mine. Just find me something and then. So get me an image.

[Jack Posobiec]

My kids school did Halloween. We didn't have any teachers dressed like gourd schools. Crayons, like crayons. You know, here's what I said.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is it, is it exposes a deeper flaw in our education system that if you're a public school teacher and you think that this is an okay way to celebrate hollow Halloween with blood and gore. I get it. The country has lost its mooring. And there's going to be dozens and hundreds of whatever people out in the audience that think I'm crazy for saying that I don't. Like. I'm telling you that is not an appropriate way to dress for Halloween.

[Jack Posobiec]

I just thank God. I just thank God that it could. It could have been a lot worse, man. They could have been wearing Star wars costumes. Just saying. I'm just saying.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, but it's like, I think Halloween, if it's fun, dress up. That's. That's cool. Blood and gore. It's not my thing. Especially if you're supposed to be teaching.

[Brandon Tatum]

They, you know, the kids can't. I bet you they don't have any pictures of kids going to school with blood and gore. Because it's probably prohibited. Probably.

[Jack Posobiec]

Send them out.

[Brandon Tatum]

Okay, it's prohibited.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now compare this to a teacher in the 1950s. Look at how far our culture has fallen. Like, this is the 1950s. That was your school teacher in the 1950s. Now go to Christmas Story.

[Jack Posobiec]

Remember Christmas Story when he was at the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now go to 115. Compare, contrast. This is that. You want to know why we're a nation in decline, sadly, is because that. That is seen as. Okay, I'm not saying that all of these people were mocking Charlie. I don't know their hearts. I'm not. I don't know. But just compare and contrast. Go Back to the 1950s, lady. Yeah, we have fallen. We are missing something crucial, and it's called dignity.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which way, Western man?

[Charlie Kirk]

Which way?

[Brandon Tatum]

Let me add this. And then back in the day, we knew. Never knew our teacher's first name. Nobody ever knew their first name.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's so true.

[Brandon Tatum]

And we would treat them with respect and all that. We didn't know who they were married to. We really didn't even know who they were married to unless their husband worked at the school. So we weren't in their business. Now the kids are knowing what sexual orientation the teachers are. If they got boyfriend, you know, all this old crazy stuff. And I think that we've gone in a sense of decline. You know, I would still challenge those people, even though somebody may want to give them grace and say they wore it last year or whatever the case may be. Yeah, you wore it at an inappropriate time last year and you should be able to read the room this year. Charlie Kirk died. It's a similar shirt. You have to say, hey, let's get different shirts, because it's not going to come across well. I mean, it's it's common sense. And then you cannot tell me at these schools survey these people. If we had their social media accounts, I bet you some of them celebrated Charlie's death or they did not give him condolences.

[Jack Posobiec]

We saw how many teachers did we.

[Brandon Tatum]

We know, we know what it is. They can lie they want or whatever. I don't want nobody to get hurt, but I think that they should get exposed.

[Jack Posobiec]

They did actually pull that footage of the car bombing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do, do we have it?

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and I believe we have. It's, it's 114 and I, I'd love to get, to get Brandon on this to be able to see, to kind of walk us through.

[Charlie Kirk]

Look at that.

[Brandon Tatum]

Oh my goodness. That's.

[Jack Posobiec]

This was not. I mean to me this seems like beyond Molotov cocktail level.

[Brandon Tatum]

Oh no, that, that was a, that was an explosive ice. It. It appear cuz it exploded in the middle and burned through all these cars. I mean cars really don't, they don't really catch fire like that connect to each other, you know because you see that one is burned, but this one is half burned.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what would your, you'd have to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have any real, you have to have a very, very intense initial, initial explosion for it to get right.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right kind of right in the middle of those cars. A big explosion and it engulfed all those cars and then it spread and stopped at the third car or fourth car was off to the side. But you know, I'm not sure, I'm, you know, I'm not a explosive expert but that's, that's troubling to see something like this and people are doing this for their own, own ridiculous ideology and.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now what if, what if someone had been in there, let's say that guy, you know, he's waking up, he's going to work, he turns the ignition and then that happens. What, what, what happens to him and possibly his family if they're there?

[Brandon Tatum]

Oh yeah, obviously he would be killed and it'll be a gruesome sight and you know, his family will be traumatized forever. I mean why wouldn't they? Their dad was blown up in a, in a random act of violence because of his political belief systems. You know, it's, it's crazy to me that we don't call these people out more like somebody said, and I don't like to use the word hate but let's use the word strongly dislike. We don't strongly dislike them enough. I feel like we give them tacit approval, not us per se, but as A society, we give them tacit approval. Donald Trump said that he was going to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. At what point are we going to start putting these people in prison? At what point are we going to start doing some due diligence and investigating this stuff? These people. There's, I think there's a network and I think that Robinson Kidd was a part of this network and I can't prove that, but it appears that this is not a one off. That's why they're in these threads and they're talking amongst themselves and confessing to stuff because I think they're all like working together in like sales, chat by.

[Charlie Kirk]

Group, chat by group chat. That's how this thing spreads. And by the way, even if Tyler Robinson was not, you know, formally or didn't consider himself part of Antifa, the ideologies that drive Antifa, that motivate them, were clearly present in his life. Just look at the bullet case.

[Jack Posobiec]

Or is it possible. And now this, this might be. Now we're getting into a more of a lawyer question. But some of the stuff that we're seeing that's come out and more text messages and information that have been. Turkey Tom put out a bunch on his YouTube. He had, he had a leaker come forward. Is, is it possible that this, the, the real radical here was Twigs was the boyfriend and then convinces Tyler to conduct this act and he goes out and does this for him and, and, and they've got drug use, they've got alcohol use, the, you know, obviously the sexual behavior, all the rest of it coming in. At what point then if he convinced him to do, do it, is it a co. Is it a matter where he becomes culpable? You see what I'm getting at, right?

[Brandon Tatum]

100. I think that it appears that they do have the tech communications already and they haven't indicted the, the trans boyfriend. So it appears that they don't have enough evidence to believe that he was complicit in the crime. But they may not have evidence. But you still may be correct. Now what if he, how do you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Determine what if he cooperates now? Is there, is there a way that they could, they could sort of make that, you know, if he cooperates full fully, is there a way for them to say, all right, you're going to come in, testify, but you got to.

[Brandon Tatum]

Give us everything that could be, that could be 100% the case? You know, I have had situations like that where I was a part of an investigation where a guy had a handful of drugs he was going to do 25 years in prison. Right? Right. And he said, I'll give up all the dealers. We took that guy into the headquarters, they get a statement and he walked out the front and he got caught with a handful of.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's what I'm saying. If you roll, you get the best deal.

[Brandon Tatum]

And that could be. And then he could be under witness protection too, because people are now saying online that the transgender boyfriend is now missing. And it's like, you're not going missing from the FBI if you are material witnessing from the media, you're missing from the media. Or you may be under witness protection.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right, Right.

[Brandon Tatum]

Which meanwhile people don't have access to you. But that could have been very well the case because this is how we see it happening, right. I mean, you have a kid that seemed like he grew up in a normal household, maybe possibly a conservative household.

[Charlie Kirk]

Conservative.

[Brandon Tatum]

And all of a sudden, all of a sudden he's going down this path of woke antifa ideology. And just so happened he's in a relationship. Relationship with one of these trans.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then you run up with someone, right. Who's fully committed, who you then form this, this. I'm just going to say it. This, this perversive relationship with.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

And suddenly that person gets, you know, it's grooming. This is how grooming works.

[Charlie Kirk]

You, you throw into the mix a lot of weird kinky sex stuff. You throw into the mix a lot of drugs. You throw into the mix a lot of these discord chats and all this weird. These ideology.

[Jack Posobiec]

And not to mention, by the way, you're the extreme online furry transhumanist pornography.

[Charlie Kirk]

That we know he was into. It's a distillation of just basically everything terrible and horrible all in one like ideology. And they all mix and they all like, come together. It's a confluence of all of this, like, really violent stuff. And this is what, you know, if you could sum up Antifa's ideology in like one sentence, it's basically what they got from, from this quote from him where he basically says some hate you just can't negotiate out.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so that is a perfect encapsulation of what Antifa believes. They don't believe in open debate. They don't believe in free dialogue. They don't believe in democracy. Candidly, they believe that the system is so evil that some of the people that are pushing this enforcement of the system are so evil that you cannot negotiate with them. That this is what the Antifa handbook is all about. From Dr. Mark Bray at Rutgers University, still employed. This is what it's all about. They don't believe that you can be talked to. They don't believe that you're a human. They don't believe that you can be reasoned with. So they're gonna. They're gonna try and kill you. They're gonna try.

[Jack Posobiec]

Almost like they believe. Almost like they believe that you're unhuman. You know, there was some. Somebody wrote a book last year called Unhumans that explained that this is exactly what they believe. They believe that if you do not follow their ideology, that you are not human, that you are unhuman. Took a lot of flack for that one.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jack Posobiec]

I gotta get you out of here. We gotta. No, no. Yeah, that's right. I'm going to the, the, the Human Events studio because we've got Human Events Daily coming up. We got a big pre election show that we're gonna be rocking. Tyler Boyer will be joining me. So I hope everyone can come and, and check this out. And I appreciate you also mentioned that we have the unhuman.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, throw up the book, guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

And if anyone. Look, if, if you want to dig into this idiot ideology of hatred, this ideology that views you, if you're a conservative, you're a Christian. If you're white, if you're straight, if you're a male, you are not a human, according to them. And this is an ideology that goes back 250 years. It is basically taking the sin of envy and turning it into a political justification and a moral justification to commit violence and evil. Why do communists still support communism after it's killed 100 million people?

[Charlie Kirk]

People?

[Jack Posobiec]

Because they view 100 million as a good start.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well said. Thank you, Jack, for joining us. Everybody. Check out Human Events Daily with Jack Posobic starting in about 10 minutes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

You got to get out of here. I got to roll. Walk in front of the camera. I don't care. You got to go. One final segment with the officer Brandon Tatum, who's made the. The generous drive down to the studio. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett. And now, now, because Jack is gone, I have this, like, awkward look to my left. It's just us on one side. It's very unbalanced. Look at that. It's very unbalanced. Studio. Look here, I'm gonna play this clip here for you, Brandon. Let me make sure I got the right clip. It's actually an interview clip of. You know what? Nevermind. Here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna play this because it's kind of in theme with our hour. This is Erica Kirk. She's got an exclusive interview with Jesse Watters coming out on Wednesday. And so they're sort of teasing some of the clips here. And this is Erica talking about whether or not cameras are gonna be banned inside the courtroom of her husband's killer. 113.

[Bo Davidson]

The defense wants to ban cameras in the courtroom. How do you feel about that?

[Donald Trump]

There were cameras all over my husband when he was murdered. There have been cameras all over my friends and family mourning. There have been cameras all over me, analyzing my every move, analyzing my every smile, my every tear. We deserve to have cameras in there. Why not be transparent? There's nothing to hide. I know there's not, because I've seen what the case is built on. Let everyone see what true evil is. This is something that could impact a generation and generations to come.

[Charlie Kirk]

Brandon, why don't you take us into this dynamic? I know you're not a lawyer in office. Officer, but. Or you were an officer, but I. The. What is this dynamic playing out with the cameras? Specifically? The defense wants to ban them.

[Brandon Tatum]

Yeah, I. I can't. I can't say I know exactly what their motives are, but after watching you know, being in trial, watching all of this stuff unfold, I. I try to watch every major case trial. I used to watch Court TV all the time. I'm just.

[Charlie Kirk]

I.

[Brandon Tatum]

In my other life, I would have been a lawyer. But it appears that what they're doing is trying to. Trying to humanize and make Robinson look like a, you know, less like an evil person because of his crimes are very evil and inhumane. So they want to humanize him and make him look like just an average person that had a bad day. And the way they do that is they can curate what he looks like in the public, and they can curate what he looks like to the jurors. And they want him to dress in plain clothes. Clothes. Right. And not dress in prison uniform. They want his shackles to not be visible, although he will be chained and. And he will have handcuffs on, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

On that note, it's like, you may think, like, well, he's in a courtroom. Why would you not have, you know, why do you need handcuffs on him or whatever? It's like, you know, you could. A pen can be turned into a deadly weapon.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right, but he's still in custody.

[Charlie Kirk]

Be a pen against himself.

[Brandon Tatum]

Right. You know, but he's not free. So that's. That's another thing that people have to realize. He's under arrest right now, and so he's not free to go. So he will be handcuffed.

[Charlie Kirk]

And, yeah, they're going to, like, make it so it's not visible.

[Brandon Tatum]

They're going to say the cameras cannot capture his handcuffs, and they're not going to allow them to film him walking in, which is like kind of the perp walk. Walking into the court or out of the court, because then you will see his gait, how he walks, his. All of those things. You can see him in chains. And then the visual. Visual. Visualization of that will criminal. Criminalize him like he should be in.

[Charlie Kirk]

The minds of the.

[Brandon Tatum]

In the minds of jurors and in the minds of the public, because they want sympathy from the public. They want sympathy from the jurors. So when it's time to put him to death, people will be more likely to say, oh, he's just an innocent kid. He should not be put to death. So the public will be influenced to say, he's not that bad of a person. And then the jurors will believe that he's not that bad of a person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and I just want to leave you with this. I'm not next of kin. I'm not to Going, getting like, you know, all the updates from the attorneys that are on our team and that are coordinating with federal, state, and local law enforcement. But I will say that I know this much, that they believe this case is completely lock solid. I mean, this thing is a really, really strong case. And I know there's a lot of voices speaking into the void and trying to come up with alternative connections and conspiracies again. I understand people want justice for Charlie. Actually, I love that. I want people to want justice. Charlie, I want that, too. Our team wants it, too. Erica, of course, wants it more than anybody, but, like, that's the case. I just want people to know it is very, very strong.

[Brandon Tatum]

And, and, and listen, Andrew, like, nobody wants justice for Charlie more than us. Yeah, nobody wants him on us. You got to be out of your mind and think that, you know, just sitting here just. It riles me up a little bit. You got to be out of your mind and think that. We want the person who took Charlie's life to still be running around. Because for whatever reason, it's. It's completely stupid to me. But let me just say there's a little bit of time left. I mean, if it weren't for people who are disingenuous in nature, putting out bull crap to make money and be famous and get clicks and views, we wouldn't be talking about this, man. The case is very clean. It's very clear. The only thing that people will be left wondering about if anything would be the 30 out 6 round. That's the only thing. But the FBI knows what they have and what they don't have, and they know investigatory information that, that they're going.

[Charlie Kirk]

To present and who else might have known in advance or who helped him. I want to know that, too. Officer Tatum, thank you so much, my friend.

[Brandon Tatum]

Thank you, Andrew. God bless you, brother.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll see you soon.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is an Iheart podcast.