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And when you're seeing in New York City with Mamdani, that is the future. A party that believes in no bail. A party believes in no jail. A party that believes in no borders. But here's one group they do want to put in jail. Their political enemies. Like good commies. They will not arrest the criminals. They won't arrest the gang members, but they will arrest their political opposition. That's how society dies, Sean. That's what we're up against now. Mr. President, your beloved New York City. Your beloved New York City may well be led by a communist soon. Zorhan Mandami, who in his nomination speech said he will defy ICE and will not allow ICE to arrest criminal aliens in New York City. Your message to Communist Zorhan Mandani. Well, then we'll have to arrest him. Look, we don't need a communist in this country, but if we have one, I'm going to be watching over him very carefully on behalf of the nation. He's going to turn out to be much less than a communist. But right now, he's a communist. That's not a socialist. You know, I've always said, we will not have socialism in this country. In the speeches, I say, well, what? Easily skip socialism. So, Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four words for you. Turn the volume up. I wonder how Mamdani would have done against better opposition. Well, that's. I mean, let's be honest. Cuomo. It can now be said, you know, even though Trump was formal, this guy's terrible. At the end of his term, you know, I wonder how he would have done against more legitimate opposition on the part about the young voters. My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty. I wish Andrew Cuomo only the best in private life, but let tonight be the final time I utter his name as we turn the page on a politics that abandons the many and answers only to the few. New York City is about to elect a Muslim socialist. And went totally viral. He was like, what are you talking. No one's even heard of this guy. His base of support are the people that have been educated to a place of stupidity. I wrote the entire book the college scam for a reason. I said the colleges are introducing idea toxins and philosophical pathogens that will deteriorate and will destabilize the United States of America. His base are the people that have the most college degrees. So basically the people that are the richest, the most sheltered and the most out of touch with the everyday concerns. I speak of Yemeni bodega owners and Mexican abuelas, Senegalese taxi drivers and Uzbek nurses, Trinidadian line cooks and Ethiopian aunties. New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and as of tonight, led by an immigrant. He is the candidate for free freaks who hate normal people and resentful immigrants who hate the West. And we imported his base in New York City. 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Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's the day after what was largely a very lackluster, I would say, dispiriting evening. No, let's just, let's just not. Let's just rip the band aid off. It was bad. It was bad. We got whacked in the races that, you know, it didn't go well. It didn't go well. And there's, it's only cope to say that, oh, these were blue states. I mean, I think, I think there is some truth to that. I think you could overreact because again, this is New Jersey, it's Virginia. But the truth is, is that we did worse than we did in 2021. Okay. And in these. In these places. So it was a step. It was a step back, and we need to be. We need to be honest about that and acknowledge that. I'm joined by Blake Neff and Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action. There was one bright spot. There was a. There was a. Okay, listen. There was actually a few maybe bright spots, one extraordinarily bright spot, and that was here in Mesa, Arizona. And the Turning Point Action team led the charge on that. The grassroots rose up and. And ousted in a. In a really deep, difficult scenario. Spillsbury, who is the Republicans for Kamala leader in the state of Arizona. So, Tyler Boyer, why don't you tell us the backstory there? Yeah, I mean, this is. This is covered by the New York Times. I'm dropping in the chat if we want to throw it up. Politico brought this up. This is a huge race. So essentially what happened was the face of Republicans for Kamala. So you want to talk about Soros type funded ventures, you had this entire mind f. Whatever you want to call it, that happened in 2020 and 2024, where they funded these fake Republicans for Biden and then Republican later became Republicans for Harris or Conservatives for Harris and all the key swing states. So the face of this organization in many ways was the mayor of Mesa, Arizona. His name was John Giles. He got termed out and so was done this last year. And his former vice mayor, Julie Spilsbury, who both were lds, both were Mormon, and they were running as the face of this national operation that was abandoned. Trump, if you're Republican and vote against him in 2024, she. He spoke at the DNC. She was very vocal. She was on advertisements, you know, with, you know, espousing, you know, her elected position that she should be trusted. And this is like Alinsky tactics 101 is use all these things to try to persuade kind of the more feeble voter. The people that don't know as much going on and saying, oh, everybody's voting against Trump, and so therefore I should too. All right, so what are the lessons here from this local race that we can extrapolate to the national scene? So this is the heart of the. I mean, these types of psyops, some people call them, these type of things that happen within politics are at the heart of how they control the narrative around these elections. So we ran. We didn't run it. The grassroots ran it. We supported it. Fully was removing this person from office. To recall or remove someone from office is one of the most difficult things that you can do within politics. But this is so important to do. When people try to run these type of operations and it was hard work. You have to go out, recruit all of the people to do it. You have to collect the petitions and then ultimately win the election. This lady, last year, the significance of this in Arizona. Arizona, this is one of the biggest cities in America. It's like top 35 cities. This is actually Maricopa is like the fifth largest metro area. All. All in. I know not Mesa specifically, but people need to understand how big this is. It's the fourth largest metropolitan area in the country and it's. And the Phoenix metro area. So Phoenix, Mesa is usually how it's referred to, is the most conservative out of the big metro area. So this is like target number one for the Democrats to topple. The Democrats want to turn Maricopa county blue for obvious reasons. We all know all the hanky panky that's gone on with elections and everything else that's getting somewhat corrected. Not fully as we'd like, but getting in there. This is the target, prime target number one. And so this is why they choose people like this to lead the face of these type of operations. And this is why it's so important to remove these people from office. Because it's the heart of it. They would recruit a Mormon to do this too. So I just want to, like, I want to crystallize this for everybody. This is a recall election where it's an R versus an R. That's the toughest type of election to educate a population that's kind of checked out. It's an off cycle off your election. Which R am I choosing? Right. And so you have to then do the grassroots work, the door knocking in order to get this over the top. And because one, one. This is how they do it. Right. So one is like a fraudulent Republican that's. That has the backing of all the Democrats. A Republican for Kamala. Yeah, it's all the backing of all the Democrat Party. So basically, to win this election, you have to overcome the establishment some people refer it to as the unit party. And then you have to also tackle the Democrat Party. Yeah. Because they're not going to run a Democrat in this district because it's so conservative. So they're, they're. They're putting a wolf in sheep's clothing to come and do this in, in a place like Mesa. Yeah. And because they're Trying to flip Mesa, right? Like, they're, they're over time, they want to make Mesa blue. And so they've, They've. They've been fairly successful at this in years past. And you're basically even in a place where it's 60% Republican. That's. That's like this district. This district's like 50, 55, 60% Republican. But again, it's like 30 plus percent, 40% Democrat. You have to, again, win basically, all the Republicans. Educate all the Republicans to vote against her. So, so yesterday, that was the huge bright spot was this leader. This was a national leader in a swing state. A national leftist leader in a swing state. Let me just back that up. There was Axios, there was Politico, there was New York Times. They were all out here on a city council race following everything. He's following everything. They're calling everybody, like, harassing everybody on the team, trying to make this a national referendum, because what they were hoping was that we were gonna fail and that Julie Spilsbury was going to be reelected and we're going to see, oh, this is another referendum on Trump. Well, it didn't work out that way. And Turning Point action, I mean, hat tip to you guys, you guys were on this from the jump. I mean, it was spearheaded by the grassroots, right? And people are like, well, why are you getting so involved? It's like, well, listen, our grassroots wants to be involved in this. We're gonna have their backs. We're gonna be a voice for the grassroots and muscular class. We're not gonna let this just go unnoticed and un. Unresolved here. So we're. Yeah, of course we're gonna support the grassroots. And of course, this also. This is. I mean, this is. Charlie cared a lot about making Phoenix and Arizona as conservative, as Republican as possible. Of course. Well, you have to look at how they react. Politico has a headline a few days ago. This is like the first test of Turning Point as an actual. Yeah. They want to muscle in politics. You have to Blake in order just to flip the state. Because if, where as Phoenix goes, the Phoenix metropolitan area goes. Arizona goes. As Arizona goes. Statistically, the presidency goes. Yeah. And also when people don't realize this is that these things are so critical because if you lose them, it gives. It emboldens the left to spend millions more dollars in your swing state to win the next big election. Today, the Democrats woke up going, wow, they mean business. Maybe we shouldn't invest the millions more dollars into that state next election cycle because it's not worth it. We need to come up with a different strategy to win in 2028. That is exactly what we want them to do. Well, if you run the models there, it's like, what is it like? 70% of the Democrat models to win a nationwide presidential race go through Arizona. That's right. So if you break the back of the Democrat Party in this state, you demoralize them and you let them know, like, hey, there's a new sheriff in town. We're not going to be messed with, and we're going to pour a ton of resources and manpower into this state. Well, guess what? Their models get a lot trickier, a lot more difficult. And so that's why we are not going anywhere in the state of Arizona. As a matter of fact, Tyler, safe to say we are doubling, tripling down in the future. Yes, sir, that's right. And we have more on this. I think we should share some of these videos after we come out of the break here. Yeah, well, it's going to be pretty great. Yeah, we could do. Let's go up to 92. 90. Real quick. Look, I. People are always saying that they wish they had better candidates that would run for office. I don't think that's true. Because when good people run for office just because I want to serve my community and then this is what happens to me, why would anyone want to run when you have groups like Turning Point that can go out there and put up thousands of signs, Too bad. So sad. We'll be right back. America's Christian Credit Union stands firm in faith, serves the community and delivers top financial services with elite checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000. Get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more. Because at Accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. 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We're going to turn our attention to New Hampshire where we had another race that Turning Point action was directly involved in and we won. And then we're gonna diagnose larger problems about what we saw last night. I have a lot to say about it and I think it's really important that we accurately diagnose what happened last night. And I'm sure, Blake and Tyler, you have your thoughts as well. But I've been thinking long and hard about it. Lots of phone calls, lots of looking into the data. So we need to properly diagnose what happened so that we can make sure that the pivot happens in the right way ahead of 2026 and really 2028. But mark my words, we are the low propensity party now and we have to adjust and invest in the proper ways. We'll be right back with national radio. All right, welcome back to Charlie Kirk show. Let's go ahead and play 292. Tyler, I think you're gonna like this is Julie Spilsbury claiming that Turning Point's huge and that we bust in a bunch of like ballot chasers or something. 292. Turning Point's huge. They're a national organization. They have a ton of money. They have a ton of volunteers. There were probably 30 volunteers at the polling place today. Tons of people were flown in from out of state. Lots of people told me that people knocked on their door that weren't even from Arizona. How do I fight that? How do I fight that? And the recall would never have been successful without Turning points employees, over 30 of them out knocking doors that are not from Mesa. I mean, thank you for the ad. I. I live in Mesa. Julie I mean, she already knows this. She, she, she was trying to tell all her friends that, you know, I'm a good person and why is Tyler going out? We had all of these people that were knocking doors are all our Arizonans. We've got dozens of staff hired and hired up for Mesa, not just for the Mesa recall, but also for the upcoming SRP and Andy Biggs election. And so, but yeah, I mean you can't have a better ad than that. The vast majority libs, the libs say Turning Point's too big and they know what they're doing too well. So I know it's a great, it's a great clip. Let's, let's, let's turn our attention because that was a huge feather in the cap of Turning Point action here in Arizona. But let's turn our attention to New Hampshire. So tell us what happened in New Hampshire. It was a special election there in Berlin. Right. Let's put up. Yeah, we just got it. Let's put up two. I think they still haven't loaded it yet, but yeah, there's a special election in New Hampshire. New Hampshire has extremely small state House seats. I think they have the most per capita. Yeah, they have the most per capita. They have, I think the third largest legislature of any kind in the English speaking world. It's like the House of Commons, the House of Representatives and then the New Hampshire State assembly. It has 400 some people in it, I think. Oh, geez. And let's put up 294. Yeah, there it is. So this is Davis Miller, one of our guys. He says special elections are all about turnout. This special election was decided by 13 votes. Turning Point Action had two Super Chase events there ahead of this week's election. And you know, when it's 13 votes, that probably did directly make the difference. Absolutely, yeah. Our team was on the ground. We have an incredible team in New Hampshire. We're one of the only national organizations to have full time local staff. Both Davis and Lisa that we have on our team are leaders there. We're going to be hiring up actually dozens more people in the state of New Hampshire for this ahead of 2026 and 2028. But this is where it's all about. The only two states that really had this significant impact are both Arizona and New Hampshire. Yesterday New Hampshire skewed, right? It wasn't just so they gained seats in the legislature, including the special election that was decided by 13 votes where our team had actually done ballot chasing initiatives. We also had a huge mayoral election. So the biggest city in New Hampshire is Manchester. It's not the capital, but it's the biggest city. And a conservative won the May, the mayor race yesterday. That was there for, for Manchester, which is a huge deal when you look at the rest of the country where we had every, I mean we, a lot of these big cities, you don't even have a Republican running for a mayor, a Republican one in Manchester. And again, the pathway to 2028, you know, directly goes through Arizona and New Hampshire. Well, and that's, that's, I want to give people a little bit of a sense of where this is going. We are, and I mentioned this last night on the stream, but for those listening now, there is, there is a, I see this on X a lot where they're like, you gotta get into this race and why isn't Turning Point coming out here earlier and why isn't, listen, if somebody wants to fund something, that's one thing, but we have a disconnect with our donor class of what they're willing to invest money in. Okay, so for example, we had people in New Jersey, we had people in pa we had all this stuff. Did we have enough? Obviously not. But secondly, you know, is anybody going to fund it? Yeah, that's a real big question. The turn, like for example, us flipping Arizona last year, this was not, we had some super chase events. This was, we had full time staffers handling quite small geographical areas, knocking on doors regularly, knocking on doors repeatedly, following up, getting to know, building the relationships in all these local areas. Well, that is bluntly not a cheap thing to do. It's not an easy thing to do. There's a calculation for it, Blake. I mean it's really simple. We've done all the math. We can show you the math of what it takes for each of these states and it's really simple. It just breaks down to how many votes exist out there that are low propensity, are enough chasable to win and how many bodies do you need to cover those bodies? You know, we had, I mean, I don't want to give away the inside scoop here, but yeah, there's a very small population that you put a, you put a staffer on. Very, very small. Yes. So, but here's, here's what I want to say. Like I think there's this tendency in, and you see this on X after Charlie's assassination to sort of like think, oh, turning points, like so gargantuan that we can be in all 50 states. That's not at all how it was Charlie was very good about saying no. Okay. He was saying no to bad investments. And he would focus turning points, attention. And that's what we're doing. We are very focused on building a red wall that can, that can literally make their models have to go into very unfavorable territory in 2026 and 2028. And I'll say this real quick, Andrew, is that you have to have enough time to build it and you have to put the resources down in order to. We're going to keep talking about this on the other side of the break because this is critically important. We'll be right back. America's Christian Credit Union stands for firm in faith, serves the community, and delivers top financial services with elite checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000, get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more. Because at Accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest. Building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the Wealth Break. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Run a business and not thinking about podcasting Think again. More Americans listen to podcasts than ads supported streaming music from Spotify and Pandora. And as the number one podcaster, iHeart's twice as large as the next two combined. So whatever your customers are into true crime, sports, comedy, culture, they'll hear your message. Plus, only iHeart can extend your message to audiences across broadcast radio. And all this reach means everything. Just think about the universal marketing formula. The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for you. Think podcasting can help your business? 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The 2025 theme for this conference is the World Meets in America. Now, this spotlights Miami as an epicenter, sort of a bridge between North America and South America. This conference was actually started in the small country of Uruguay, a country of only about 3 million people. And it has since bridged over this is 10th inception, 10th edition now here in Miami. Miami leading the way in terms of innovation. Entrepreneurship, tech, innovation, AI. Right now, the Saudi ambassador to the United States States is speaking on stage with Miami Mayor Francis Suarez. Suarez says that he thinks Trump's recent travels have been transformational in his presidency. And so Donald Trump will be speaking here in just a bit, probably somewhere in the time frame of 1pm or a little thereafter. His speech is supposed to focus on the economic agenda that he has and the investments that he has secured abroad. Remember his recent Asian tour, Malaysia, Japan, even meeting with Xi Jinping. And it may be a rebuke of the elections that happened yesterday and the direction that Democrats are pushing this country economically. So Trump will focus on deregulation, energy independence, oil prices coming down, and affordability. Affordability has been a major issue, top of mind for many Americans. Earlier today, Maria Machado spoke. She's the Nobel Peace Prize winner. She said that Venezuela, her native Venezuela, will be free. She says that Nicolas Maduro is not a state leader, but because he's the head of a narco terrorist country. And of course, Donald Trump has designated narco terrorist countries as being on our terrorist watch list. So Maduro started the war. Maria says that Trump is ending it. She says the Nobel Prize is your award. It's a shared award that we can all share in liberty and democracy. We also had Adam Newman, CEO of WeWork and Flow, speak earlier. His motto is what if it all goes right? 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And then Blake and Tyler, I think, you know, chime in and correct me where I'm wrong and, and add to it here, here's, here's the bottom line and I go back to something we talked about with Rich Barris last week, and basically the polling shows something that we need to confront and be very aware of and be honest about, and that is that a lot of people believe that the things that President Trump were elected on, namely the economy, immigration, energy prices, the affordability crisis, those things are not being addressed. They feel like the Republicans that were elected in November are focusing too much on foreign policy affairs. Their attention is not on the domestic, domestic issues. Now, do I think some of that is fair? Sure. Do I think some of it's unfair? I actually really think a lot of it's unfair. I think that we have to wait for some of these policies to take their effect. But perception is reality, and some of that perception is showing up in the enthusiasm gaps between Democrats and Republicans. And you saw that last night. You saw a state like Virginia, which Glenn Youngkin held, every single county moved to the left. Show 283, put 283 up there if you can. This is a map of Virginia, and every single county moved to the left. There's not one red arrow on that county. What's happening is you're getting a lot of normie, sort of working class, ethnic minority voters that said, hey, Trump's good at making me money. I had more money in my pocket when President Trump was president the first time, who just come out to the polls because they thought, hey, I'm poor now. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give the other guy a shot. And they don't feel that yet. They don't see it yet. And again, perception is reality. We have to do these big audacious, crazy, you know, policies where, you know, I mentioned to Rich Barris, we need a Hoover Dam. Obviously we're not gonna be building a Dam in 2025, but we need these big visual markers to say, hey, we're breaking ground on this big thing. We, we're focusing on this big thing. We're, we're delivering for our voters. And again, a lot of this is going to be low propensity, Normie. People that are not checked into the political process every day, like a lot of you that are watching the show, a lot of us that follow this every day, they need big wins that make them feel a certain way, that make them feel like the politicians they elected to office into power are doing the work that they, they elected them to do. It's the economy, stupid. I know that it's cliche at this point, but that's true. We see that in the Polling. There's too much focus on these, these external affairs. The only one of the domestic policy fronts that President Trump is scoring high on right now is immigration. So yes, that becomes an animating issue for the left. But ultimately people, the majority of people are still happy that the border is not overrun by illegals. Well, and keep in mind, Andrew, so you know, off election cycle elections, so non traditional, non presidential years, really well, even midterms. Well, this is again, this isn't even a midterm election. This is off presidential cycle. So what happens is that you have low turnout and, and the in the determining factor is who shows up and who gets their people out. So you have a two, it's two points. I was about to get to that point. So the first point is enthusiasm gap. And right now just, we're just being honest. Well, enthusiasm drives turnout. Enthusiasm is down for us right now because of a couple of things. I think again, it's this foreign policy fixation. Are those wins important? Yes, because when we have peace in the world, we're allowed to focus on domestic issues. So you almost have to fix all the garbage that was going on in order to be able to fixate on the domestic policy issue. But again, perceptions, reality, we need to as many of these foreign trips and all this stuff, it's really important. It's good. We need to actually message equally if not way more so on the domestic wins, the domestic achievements here. Right. And then you part, you pair that with an enthusiasm gap. You pair that with something that Data Republican mentioned really quick throw up image 300 and she's looking across indeed and the job sites and she found over 6,000 jobs for grassroots. These are civic engagement people. This would be ballot chasers on the left now make so so here's, here's the pairing of these two, these two nodes. You've got to have the infrastructure to drive low propensity voters out, but you also have to have to have policy wins and candidates that are, that inspire enthusiasm. It's a both and all right, so in 2024, Kamala Harris still had and the Democrats still had the edge on ballot ground, ground game stuff. They had more people out in the field. My mom in Nevada swing state had her door knocked on about 14 times. She was throwing out all of the paperwork. They were leaving the pamphlets and all this stuff because she didn't want to vote for Kamala. It didn't matter. My mom's a kind of a swing voter, actually. She's kind of, she's proudly independent. I tried been working on her for years. But the point is, because she was, she was on their radar, she got hit up a lot, okay? It didn't matter because for Kamala, she was a bad candidate. Okay? Trump was coming in after a disastrous four years. People were ready for change, okay? So you have to pair up enthusiasm with ground game. And when they have 6,000 job postings on the Democrat side to get out ground game and knock on doors, that is a heck of a mountain to climb when you're a conservatives with a low prop voting base in an off year election. Okay? So the point is this focus on domestic, focus on policy wins. Perception is reality. You have to show, tell and reveal to the audience the things that you're doing for them to make their lives easier and better, to make them richer. And then finally you have to build the infrastructure. We have to keep building. A lot of people think turning point can be in 50 states. That's not, that's not really going to ever happen. Okay? There's limited resources. The donor class has to align with the, with the new realities of elections and the new realities of the conservative base. And that is that we are a low prop party that's lacking in enthusiasm. And the coalition that we built, we've done a lot to actually alienate them. And we have to be honest about that. Well, you brought up something really important, Andrews, again. Look, a look back at Glenn Youngkin's race. And Glenn Youngkin is a very nice guy. I just was in a room with him this week and he speaks very well and he, I think he's appealing to a lot of. He's a great candidate. I mean, you can disagree with him, call him like a rhino or something. Not true, Maga. I'm telling you, the guy's a great candidate for a state like Virginia. Well, but let's look back four years ago. Let's look back to when he ran. He, when he ran, he won because the moms showed up big time. Because if you remember the enthusiasm. So the enthusiasm wave that he, he wrote on was, Remember there was this entire scuffle that was happening across the state of Virginia where parents were showing up to school board meetings and that gave them the wave, the enthusiasm lift for him to win. Well, let's check this out. So let's throw up image 296. I think this is really telling Virginia AG race by gender. Look at this. So this again, this is J. Jones, who proudly fetishizes killing his political opponents, doubles down even when the person on the other end of the Text is telling him that they're uncomfortable with the way he's talking. Females 61% to 44. So for Jones. So Andrew, let me. 61 to 44. Let me spell this out for everyone. If you have a 20 plus percent and in a lot of cases it's more than 20%. A 20 to 30% differential on candidates for females. So the left, they're voting for leftists by 20 to 30 points in, in addition. And then our males, you saw the numbers. Our men are not matching the same numbers. Yeah, are not matching the same numbers. But it's close. Men are voting for the Republicans by 15 to 20 points. Yeah, it's 55 to 39. But here's the problem. 16 point edge. If fewer men show up to vote and more women show up to vote, then they have a dramatic different differential in that. So again a presidential. You have about the same amount of men and women who show up to vote in a off election year. You have a lot more women potentially show up to vote. I don't have the data in front of me for Virginia, but I can just tell you right now by the outcome is that a lot more women showed up to vote than men. And because of that differential, you're going to lose every time. Absolutely. Well, and this is, this was a big story in 2024, how we drove the men out. I mean there was articles written about turning Point, targeting men with text campaigns. I mean, and you had the entire. They were calling it the manosphere and the Rogan effect and all this stuff. Well, guess what? Men are harder to get out to the polls than women. Women just vote more. They just vote more often. They're more predictable voters and they tend to be prone to emotional arguments that Democrats make. Check out this image 297. This is Virginia by how many children do you have? And if you have them, then you voted for Miyares, the Republican candidate. If you don't, you voted for Jay Jones. So there's another dynamic there. Let's go to New Jersey and go by age. This one's terrifying, Blake, and I think you should chime in on that. We're just getting, I mean, I mean so all the gains that we had with young people. And I'll never forget this, I mean I don't want to spill too many beans here. I'll never forget this. This is image 298. But there were at least three instances where Charlie called the administration and said all the gains that we saw in that election with young people, you Guys are jeopardizing them. I'll just put it in the. I think let's not beat around the bush here, guys. This went bad because right now Trump is an unpopular president. I'm just gonna lay it out. President Trump's approval rating on average is about 42%. His disapproval is 55% today. The average today is the lowest it's been his entire second term. Yeah. And if you're in, the guy at the top is not that popular. It's going to have a cascading effect down the ballot. And if you look at individual issues, he's underwater on inflation, he's underwater on trade, he's underwater on the economy, all of those, by over 15 points. He's even underwater on immigration by 5%. Yep. And you know, some of that you can debate. Oh, is it because they want it faster versus slower. Besides the point. He's underwater. He's the guy at the top, and that's going to affect things. I think the economy has a, is a huge deal. If you look at the numbers. Look at the economy overall is shaky. The economy for people under 30 is catastrophic. Hiring for entry level positions in the US is horrible right now. Well, and a lot of that you're seeing the average age, the average age of a first time homebuyer is over, is just eclipsed. 40 years old. It's gone up, I think nine years or something or seven years in like five years total, it's going up. The average age of a homebuyer is rising faster than the passage of time. And you, let's make this point, you. In most states, you cannot win an election if you lose the under 40 vote. You just. The entire electorate has shifted. It is millennial heavy. If you are losing by double digits the millennial vote, you will lose every election. And again, the female vote is contributing heavily towards that. We've got to figure it out. We'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. America's Christian Credit Union stands firm in faith, serves the community and delivers top financial services with elite checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000. Get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more. Because at Accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. 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The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for you. Think podcasting can help your business? Think iHeart streaming radio and podcasting. Let us show you at iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-844, iHeart one more time, call 844-844, IHeart and get podcasting working for you. Remember, remember the 5th of November, Make America Great Forever. That was quite the bumper. Thank you, thank you, studio. We do remember the 5th of November. Last November. It was a great night. It was a night where the coalition came together. A coalition that we built on working people, even some union people, blacks, Hispanics came out. By the way, that was a number that was shocking out of New Jersey last night, the Hispanic vote fell off a cliff too. You should worry about that one because that giant house redraw they just did in Texas was based on we're better with Hispanics now so we can do this. If they swerve back to being really blue instead of we pick up five seats in Texas, this could be we lose 10 seats in Texas. Well, I'll just say this is that it's again, you're talking low propensity voters. Right. So you don't want to infer too much off of a non traditional election, a midterm or a presidential. But what you do want to do is look at the hard numbers and say, did these people turn out? It's really easy to, it's really easy to identify. It's really easy to identify. Now to your point, if we look at the data and it shows these people turned out and you lose the election, that's saying something. This is why looking at the data at census block level, at precinct level is really important. Because if you're targeting with full time staff, the right voters, with the right people, you know, geographically, demographically, then you get a better outcome. Yeah, again, I think it's three things. Voter enthusiasm. To your point, Trump is at a, at a Nader, it's just, yeah, he's at a low ab. He's at a low ab. That didn't time out well with these elections. Two, you need the infrastructure, you need donor alignment on what actually works. And it's funny because there's people like I've not seen any, you know, indication that what turning point or Scott Pressler or whatever does is actually working. No, that's the wrong conclusion to draw. You need more, not less. And third, you need good candidates that are popular. I mean winsome Sears, I never, no disrespect, I think she's a nice lady. I never thought she was a great candidate for that for the governor in Virginia. And it showed. And then we can extrapolate more. We're going to welcome back radio in three seconds. 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Or was it. Yeah, it was just Trump. He goes, I have four words for you. Turn the volume up. And I looked at Blake. I was like, damn, he's talented. Omar Fattah was not talented. Not talented. Not talented at all. Neither is Jacob Fry. But I mean, here's the thing. You had two things happen in the mayoral race in New York City. You had Cuomo, who's got more baggage than a, than a, you know, American Airlines, you know, cross country trip. He's got a ton of baggage. Okay. The guy's got sexual assaults. He basically, his policies contributed to killing old people and nursing homes. I mean, the guy's got a lot of baggage in New York. And it was actually a little closer than we expected. I mean, to be fair, right. A lot of the Sliwa vote ended up going over and going with, with Cuomo almost unexpectedly. Because Donnie is talented. He's a very talent. And I think he's probably the, the leading Democrat competing with AOC as far as just energy from the base. Yeah, I mean, he's a Popular guy. Although again with aoc, keep in mind, some of this is Republicans people watching Fox and stuff. They, they like to fixate. They're the ones that keep putting mascot Democrats as well. So I don't know that you want to leap to the conclusion that he's the immediate head of the party. We can anoint him the head of the party, I suppose, but. Well, listen, he's. If he's not the guy. Okay, fine, he's one of the guys. Okay, but. And here's the other thing. We've talked about this a lot, Blake. The, the youth vote that. The gains we made in the youth vote in 2024 were fickle things like bombing Iran. Let's just be honest about it. The Epstein for Caso, like all of this stuff has been chipping away and then, and then they still don't feel like they can buy a home. There's been no moonshot. I mean, I'll never forget Charlie calling for the moonshot. We need 10 million homes. We need to. By the way, it's easy to say like we need a moonshot. That's actually a hugely difficult problem to solve. Like course you want to do that. You need to aggressively, radically deregulate a lot of what restricts home building right now. Yeah, you'd have to. It's actually a serious problem that takes effort to solve. You'd have to look to imitate the states that have a lot of home building that. That would probably be. You know, I bet Texas is pretty good at it. I think the Dakotas are pretty good at it. Florida, I imagine, is pretty good at it. And you have to generalize those and push those along. And it's easy to say do a moonshot. Landing on the moon was hard. There's a reason we can't do it anymore. We're not the country that landed on the moon in 1961. We're gonna have to find that country again. And by the way, there's a huge dynamic in New York that we haven't even got to this hour, the hour flies so fast. But just foreign born voters in New York and in Virginia went overwhelmingly for Mamdani and the Democrats. So you've got foreigners pouring in, they're voting Democrat. And you got young people that came over, gave us a shot, but they were not locked in. And we've done a lot to alienate those. So you got. There's multiple things here that we got to fix it, focus on our attention on. But we cannot black pill. We fight, fight, fight. We fight on because guess what? There's no other option. We don't fight because we know we're going to win. We fight because we know it's the right thing to do do. And in politics, you know, a year plus until a year until the midterms and we got three years until the presidential next presidential election. It's a lot of time to make up ground and to fix some of this stuff. And we've, we've got to fixate on it. We got to do it. We, we have hour two coming up. Don't go anywhere. Lots in store. Be right. America's Christian Credit Union stands firm in faith, serves the community and delivers top financial services with elite Checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000. Get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more. Because at Accuf, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest. Building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business. We're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Brave podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Run a business and not thinking about podcasting. Think again. More Americans. Listen to podcasts than ads supported streaming music from Spotify and Pandora. And as the number one podcaster, iHeart's twice as large as the next two combined. So whatever your customers are into true crime, sports, comedy, culture, they'll hear your message. Plus, only iHeart can extend your message to audiences across broadcast radio. And all this reach means everything. Just think about the universal marketing. The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for you. Think podcasting can help your business? Think iHeart streaming radio and podcasting. Let us show you@iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-844 iHeart. One more time, call 844-844-IHEART and get podcasting working for you. Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm gonna TERRENCE Bates, Gold prices have reached historic highs this year, but slipped below the $4,000 an ounce threshold on Tuesday. The drop comes as the dollar hit a three month high. Now, all of this comes amid the backdrop of the Federal Reserve cutting interest rates last week. So let's bring in Philip Patrick. He's a precious metal specialist with the Birch Gold Group. Philip, good morning. Good morning, Terrence. Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure. So look, there's reporting out this morning that a strong dollar is diving down the value of gold. Is this an E position when it comes to a strong dollar and gold being either strong or weaker? Look, typically gold and the dollar tend to run inversely. So as you mentioned, rightly, we've seen some dollar strengthening that's driven the price of gold down shorter term. For a little bit of context, though, gold is still up over 45% for the year. Nothing goes up in a straight line. So we saw some dollar strengthening which drove the price of gold down a little bit. We also saw a lot of profit taking. Right. Investors were up 55% for the year at one point. So obviously some profit taking is natural at times like that. So nothing to be concerned on of on this side when it comes to precious metals. But typically, to answer the question, golden dollar do work inversely. Yes. But is gold then still a good hedge against when the dollar does plummet or kind of rebound? Listen, I think we have systemic problems and obviously, you know, a stronger dollar I'm hoping for, even if it's at the expense of higher gold prices, given where we are from a debt and deficit standpoint, I think it's going to be tough to maintain a stronger dollar longer term. On top of that, if we want to become a manufacturing powerhouse, there's some advantages to a weaker currency longer term. So we'll see how it plays out. But I think we still have a very strong climate for gold. What people have to understand, I think we're seeing some systemic changes internationally. The dollar was held overwhelmingly as global reserve. It still is that gold is creeping up. It's now the number two global reserve asset. It overtook the Euro last year. And I think long term we're going to see that trend continue. At the beginning of this year they surveyed central banks across the world. 73% of them said they would be reducing dollar holdings and increasing gold holdings over the next half a day, half a decade. So I think that trend will continue. We'll see the dollar strengthen a little bit and weaken a little bit. But I think the long term trend will be for higher gold prices and unfortunately a weaker US dollar. So you said over the next half a decade many of these global banks are going to be stocking up on gold. Let's say in the next decade. Are you expecting that gold will ult take the US dollar as the global reserve currency? Yeah, I think it's a matter of time, I really do. I don't think it's short term next year or two, but I think the trend is going to continue. And the reality is it makes sense. You've got to remember we've got $38 trillion of debt. We have a $2 trillion annual deficit. A year from now, debt will be $40 trillion and then 42. How long will the world continue to finance this debt to without commanding higher interest? So like I said, government debt was viewed as risk free for a long time, basically since the 80s. But this gold being global reserve is newer. In the context of history, if we go Back to the 80s, gold was 70% of global reserve. And we've seen this shift away from gold towards debt. But like I said, look at debt to GDP amongst Western nations. It averages over 110%. So I think this view that debt is risk free has been shattered. And gold of course is where countries go, it's where they've always been. This is just a reversion to the norm. Hey, 30 seconds. Are you expecting today's election specifically what happens in New York City with Zohar Mamdani to potentially impact the price of gold specifically and the overall economy? Listen, I think Mandani is bad news for New York. New York is an economic powerhouse for the United States states. So it's, it's bad news in general. And gold tends to shine on, on the back of bad news. So I'm, I'm hoping they pull off a miracle in New York. But we'll see. All right. We absolutely will see. In the meantime, you may want to invest in some gold, just in case. Philip Patrick joining us from the Birch Gold Group. And again, right there at the bottom of your screen is all the information that you need. America's Christian Credit Union stands firm in faith, serves the community, and delivers top financial services with elite checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000, get paid early, enjoy loan discounts, and more. Because at Accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. 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Let us show you@iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-844-IHEART. One more time, call 844-844, iHEART and get podcasting. All right, welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined as always. Well, not as always. You've been traveling a bit lately. Blake Neff, one of the producers here, as well as Rob Henderson, author of Troubled and substack writer of Rob Henderson's newsletter. Correct. Did I get that right? That's right. All right. So, Rob, I'm so glad you're here for multiple reasons. I'll just say the top two right now. You were Charlie's last long form interview. Yeah. Which is. Which is a. I don't even know how that makes you feel. I don't know how it makes me feel, but it's. It's just. Yeah, just tell us noteworthy and. Yeah, tell us about meeting. Meeting Charlie. I don't think you'd met him before you came in. Yeah, that's right. No, I. I told him, I think that when I first shook his hand and then when we parted ways that it was an honor to meet him. And now it was just a surreal moment when I learned that I was his last long form interview. Because some time had passed between our discussion and then what had happened later, and I presumed, you know, he's an extremely busy guy, but, yeah, I learned the same day as everyone else, oh, this was his last long form. And, you know, then I felt this, you know, internal. I don't know what it was, this grieving, like, you know, all of the feelings of that day came back of meeting him, knowing him, and then realizing, like, that was the last long discussion that he'd had and made me think of how he was during that interview, as he is in all interviews. Inquisitive, curious, sharp, thoughtful. I'd been interviewed by a lot of different people, and one thing that stood out to me is how sharp he was. I would reference A study or a book. And I would see him writing things down. He would ask follow up questions, and he asked me questions that I'd never been asked before in other interviews. And I could see, like, you know, it's different to see it, you know, like everyone else on YouTube and the podcast, like, yeah, he's, he's a great interviewer. But then to see him at work in person was just amazing. He was such a professional. Yeah. And I'm so glad it was. I mean, I'm not glad it was his last interview. I'm. It was a good topic for this final interview because it was hitting on some of the stuff that mattered most to him. Not just in an, you know, immediate politics sense, but the really big picture things. You know, Erica said in her speech at the memorial that if Charlie had entered politics, his big, his biggest goal would be revive the American family. And we talked a lot about the family, the state of the family, you know, the success sequence, you know, what the impact is that we don't have intact families in America anymore. And what could conceivably bring those back. Absolutely. Those are the really enduring issues he cared a lot about. Well, and that's a multi pronged issue. Right. There's an economic front, there's a values front, there's a faith front, there's a policy front, obviously. And you are sort of famous because you coined this term luxury beliefs. Right. And I remember you guys interview. I actually watched it happen live. They connected me. So I was watching it on a zoom feed. And, you know, I think it's really key that you're here today. And Blake was like, hey, you know, he's gonna be in town, we should have him back in. And it's gonna be the day after mom Donnie likely becomes the next mayor or gets elected to become the next mayor of New York City. So when you pair some of the writing and the thinking and the work that you've done on luxury beliefs, and you think about that in relation to Mamdani just getting elected in New York City. I mean, he's the living embodiment of what it means to have a luxury belief. I think, in some ways. Or you could argue the opposite. Right, like his supporters are gonna argue the opposite. Yeah. Well, you know, one thing that I had spoken about with Charlie was I'd written multiple pieces expressing my concerns about the possible election of Mamdani. And in one of those pieces, I said, this is, you know, think about the most obnoxious person you could possibly run into at an Ivy League, Hamas encampment. And you know what should come to mind is someone like Mamdani, like that is the person. And he, you know, at that time he was elected and now he is going to be the mayor. And yeah, it was alarming. And he, he is the luxury beliefs candidate. You know, socialism has always appealed to highly educated people and he is unapologetic about it. And a lot of his ideas globalize the intifada, city run grocery stores, you know, free public transport, a lot of, I mean, you know, these ideas are just empirically going to make things worse. But in his mind, and in the mind of a lot of his supporters who are so disconnected from reality, they've just decided to go this route. Luxury beliefs, which I define as ideas and opinions that confer status on the credentialed and the affluent while inflicting costs on the lower classes. And a core feature of a luxury belief is that the believer is sheltered from the consequences of his or her beliefs. And of course Mamdani is, you know, kind of an archetype of, of this type of person because he was raised by a filmmaker and an Ivy League professor. You know, he went to Bowdoin, which, you know, his, his alma mater has more students from families in the top 1% of the income scale than the entire bottom 60%. He spent his whole life cocooned in affluence and now he's positioning himself as a man of the people, a man of the working class. But that was not the demographic that came out for him. You know, the exit polling showed that, you know, when you break down the results by education level, 57% of college graduates came out for Mamdani versus only 38% of working class, non college educated voters. So one thing you might have some insight on, do you think it is a sort of cocooned elite that is voting for them? Because another argument people have made is yeah, they're higher on the income scale, but they're also the very precarious high income ones where maybe they make a six figure income, but they also can't afford a flat in New York. They can't live the way they probably lived growing up in suburbia with their parents. And so they feel very downwardly mobile, even if in there. And they're in the upper half or upper fifth of New York City incomes. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I've been posting about this too, that obviously, you know, Mamdani did not win the working class. And people have countered by, by saying, you know, like, yeah, there's, there Maybe they have college degrees and they're comfortable, but they don't see a path onto owning a house or something along those lines. And I just think it's important to point out that there is a very strong difference between actual poverty versus the kind of what genteel poverty of a young person, a young college educated person in New York. Because yes, maybe at the moment they're struggling, but they have options. They don't have to live there. They have a degree, they have contacts, they have cultural capital. They have options in a way that a blue collar, working class person in New York City doesn't. And so they're not in the same boat. You know, people will say, oh, well, yeah, I have a degree, but I'm still working class. Like, that's not, that's not how, you know, sociologists would define class. Yeah, let's put up 305. This is. Which best describes your education. So, mom, Donnie got 39% of never attended college. If you go all the way up to advanced degree. He got 57% of bachelor degree and 57% of advanced degree. So he is essentially. But here's what's interesting. I mean, he's pushing forward tax hikes for, well, wider and wealthier neighborhoods. But even Kathy Hochul saying he's not going to be able to get these things done. But he's promising free stuff. This is free stuff. Populism, you could call it socialism. It's, I mean, we could quibble on terms, but essentially this is a left wing populist candidate. Right. What is it about these people that do not that they don't seem to make the connection that he's gonna cost them. Is it just, is it just basically, I want to help the lower class and this is how I'm gonna do it. Like, what's the motivation behind people that he's actually going to target? His policies are going to hurt, but they're voting for him. Right. Well, I think what's going on here is that people never consider themselves a member of the elite or the upper class. It's always the people who are ahead of them. Those are the people who are going to be taxed or who are going to have to pay excess penalties, and they themselves will be sort of safeguarded from this. You know, sometimes I'll talk about, if you track Bernie Sanders speeches over the last 10 years, back in 2015, during the Democratic primaries, he would always talk about, you know, the millionaires and the billionaires and, you know, the millionaire class and the billionaire class. And then you know, you go through 2017, 2019, and now he just talks about billionaires because at some point in the last 10 years, he became a millionaire and now he exempted himself and now, no, the millionaires are going to be safe, but now we're just going to go after the billionaires. You know, if your family, your dad is worth $100 million, he's going to be protected because he doesn't have a billion dollars. Yeah, fascinating. It does feel there's something different that. And we might have to go into the next segment with this, but it feels like there's something a little bit different with Mamdani versus Bernie Sanders socialism of 2016 or 2020. And I think it's what comes up when people describe him as kind of having this third worldist edge, which partly that's just that he is of immigrant origin. But I think there's. Maybe you can weigh in on this. There's something to the idea that he represents this attitude that does want to punish the west, sort of like there's almost this attitude of wanting to lay low, you know, like historically, the wealthier, whiter neighborhoods, as it were. Yeah, I mean, it's like a grievous, some sort of grievance that goes. Grievance. This is a full mask off moment where he's laying bare the, the actual motivations of the. We could call it DSA or the communists. And he's not hiding from it. We're going to blow the brakes for the stream. Stay right there. America's Christian Credit Union stands firm in faith, serves the community and delivers top financial services with elite checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000. Get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more. Because at Accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest. Building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the Wealth Break. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's A conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. 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Think radio can help your business. Think iHeart. Streaming, podcasting and radio where the reach is real. Let us show you@iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-844 iheart one more time. Just call 844-844, iheart and get radio working for you. Non trivial sum of money that if you looked at the selectivity of the college, how expensive the college was. The more expensive the college, the more likely they were to vote for Mamdani. You know, state schools and others. I don't think those people were nearly as enthusiastic. And you see that pattern all throughout the higher education system, that the more expensive the college, the more likely you are to see encampments and protests and locking themselves in the president's office and agitating. And those are the schools. I mean, they select for that type of person. You know, the Ivy League schools have their choice for, you know, they have thousands of applicants who have perfect SAT scores. And that's what they're, that's not what they're optimizing for. They're optimizing for revolutionaries. This was made explicit, I think in 2020 or 2021, Yale, one of their admissions staff openly stated that we are selecting four students who are, you know, want. Want to revamp society, want to change everything, have this forward thinking vision, you know, this kind of coded language. But essentially they were selecting four people who are on the far left. You know, you guys know about the Ivies more than I would. You guys are both Ivy Leagues, right? Yeah, yeah, regrettably, whatever. You guys are part of the problem. I want you to know that. It does seem interesting though, that it's almost like I think of how in Mexico, you know, the PR party, party of like institutional revolution or like perpetual revolution, that to define sort of a certain class of American society, the elite educated part, as you definitionally have to sort of want to tear down or radically change society. And it just strikes me as something that could be really destructive over time if, you know, okay, well, we did the easy things to tear down. What are the harder things to tear down now? And I think of that with Mamdani, where he wants to close Rikers and mess up the New York's public schools, there's a lot of damage he can do to that city. Right. Instead of just being a good steward, Right. Like being like, I mean, that's, you know, ideally you would want your elites and aspirational elites to be good stewards for the city, the country that they're governing. And instead it's, well, let me find all the flaws and then introduce all these policies that have historically always failed. All right, so this has been, I mean, I think the luxury reliefs piece plays into this beautifully. So I'm so glad you're here. But there's also this concept of a dark triad that we should talk about. We welcome back radio. In about five seconds, I want to get into what that is and maybe it has a role to play here and what we're seeing. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back. National radio stations across the country. Go for it, Blake. All right. We're talking about dark triad. Yeah. So we were saying, you know, this is a mask off moment, but actually, what if. What if the mask is on? How much can we. How. I guess how genuine is Zoran Mamdani and are there some of these psychological concepts we've talked about? To me, he strikes me as a fundamentally sort of phony person. Like he's adopted, I think he's a con man. He's adopted this ideology because it is sort of the, the uniform of being this, you know, Ivy League immigrant type person that he is. Well, I think he's embarrassed by that. I think he's trying to. He's trying to front like he's. He's part of, you know, the working poor that he says he's the champion of. But. But I'm sorry. And I want you to explain what dark triad is. And, but you do not code switch. You do not accent, which, like, Zoran Mamdani does. And. But if you haven't seen the videos, you got to go find momdani. Switching accents constantly. He will be anything to anybody if he thinks he can get ahead. I mean, that's pure narcissism and manipulation. But explain what dark. The dark triad is. And what do you see in Mamdani? Yeah, well, so last night in Mamdani's victory speech, he. The first words out of his mouth, he quoted the American socialist, Eugene Debs. You know, he was an early 20th century socialist. And so, you know, it's. It's sort of mask off and mask on, right? Like, he's not going to moderate. He is openly quoting socialists. You know, you go back through his Twitter feed, and he quotes people like Marx and so on. So I don't, you know, he's not hiding it, but it's an interesting question about the authenticity of his beliefs. So I've written at length about the dark triad, which is a personality trait, or rather a constellation of three different personality traits. Traits. So the dark triad, first you have narcissism, which is entitled self importance. Then you have psychopathy, which is basically a callousness, a cynicism, disregard for other people. And then you have Machiavellianism, which is strategic exploitation and duplicity. And, you know, those three traits, you know, the core of these traits are antagonism, you know, willingness to manipulate, relatively unfeeling. And also this kind of performative aspect where there's often a kind of a horrific void beneath people who have elevated dark triad traits, and there is no actual identity underlying it. They will shapeshift. They will behave in ways that will garner them approval. You know, material rewards, social rewards, professional rewards, sexual rewards. And political rewards. Yeah, political rewards as well. And so how could that. If we are correct, how could that manifest now that he's actually the mayor of the city and he's not just a candidate? Well, so generally, I would assume that most elected officials probably have some elevated levels of narcissism. But it's those other two traits that are more alarming. Psychopathy is often described as the darkest of the three dark triad traits, because that often predicts interpersonal conflict and violence and criminality and that kind of thing. But how would this manifest itself in running a city? Well, you know, I think very rapidly you'll find that once people acquire power, their coalitions start to fray. Because, you know, if you are a leader, you need to have strong alliances. You need to build trust. And if you are higher in the high on the dark triad, you can, you can build coalitions temporarily if you have an end goal in mind. But often once those people acquire power, the corruption starts to proliferate and people will start to abandon ships. So we'll see what happens there. But, you know, one characteristic of the dark triad as well is that they will essentially adopt opinions and views that will make them look good. And this is often calculated and explicit. And I think this makes sense when you track Mamdani's evolution. He's a millennial. He's been online his whole life. You can see that he would post the kind of woke boilerplate nonsense five years ago. You know, defund the police is a queer feminist issue, and, you know, all that kind of stuff. It was very, you know, there was that picture of him with his, you know, gloved hand giving the Christopher Columbus statue the middle finger during, you know, the peak of the pandemic. And, you know, saying, you know, the caption was tear it down. So, you know, he was very much in that vein of tear the statues down, very much in the kind of woke revolutionary mindset. And once he saw an opening to become the mayor, he pivoted toward more sort of left wing populism, as you guys are saying, pivoting over to affordability. And in concentrating on affordability, and whenever he's pressed on his previous statements, you know, he's kind of Marxist and Marxist Jason statements. He says, oh, I'm just, I'm just focused on affordability. And then five minutes later he'll say, oh, I'm going to shut down the gifted programs of the New York City high schools. And I'm thinking, okay, what does that have to do with affordability? So I think you're absolutely right that you're going to see a shift in tone. And I don't think we have this video yet. So I apologize. I'm just going to read this. CNN Van Jones last night says, I think Mamdani we saw on the campaign trail, calmer, warmer, more embracing, wasn't present in that victory speech. He missed a chance to bring more people into the tent. His tone was sharp, almost yelling. And he says the warm, open, working class guy wasn't on stage tonight. And you saw that towards the end of his campaign where you started seeing a harsher tone when he thought he had it in the bag, right? Yeah. And he started to castigate people for, you know, talking about his aunt after 9, 11 and this kind of thing, he started to use guilt and manipulation again. You saw those traits surface. Let's wrap it up in the stream here real quick. We'll be right back. America's Christian Credit Union stands for firm in faith, serves the community and delivers top financial services with Elite Checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000, get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more. Because at Accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit AmericasChristiancu.com Elite to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest. Building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the Wealth Break. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Run a business and not thinking about podcasting, Think again. More Americans listen to podcasts than ads, supported streaming music from Spotify and Pandora. And as the number one podcaster iheart's twice as large as the next two combined. So whatever your customers are into, true crime, sports, comedy, culture, they'll hear your message. Plus, only iHeart can extend your message to audiences across broadcast radio. And all this reach means everything. Just think about the universal marketing formula. The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for you. Think podcasting can help your business? Think iHeart streaming radio and podcasting. Let us show you at iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-844 iHeart. One more time, call 844-844-IHEART and get podcasting working for you. Yen Venito Amiami Mr. President, President Trump is in Miami right now. Everyone, I'm Terrence Bates. We appreciate you being here with us for this real America's Voice news break. Let's take you straight to Miami where President Trump is going to be attending a summit and speaking at a summit of business leaders. Our Bo Davidson is there right now. Bo, give us an overview of what's on going expect. Well, you know, President Trump's about to come out any moment now. The music is getting louder. This has a very kind of Trump rally feel to it as we build up to it. But I think what Donald Trump's going to talk about today is the economy. He's going to tout some of those investments that he's received from world leaders. He did that big deal in Korea, in Japan, in Malaysia, getting all this foreign investment to come to the United States. And actually the public investment fund from Saudi Arabia is a present sponsor of this summit. So that's something I was kind of unaware of coming into this. But the Saudis are really investing heavily in the United States. They're pivotal actually in our economy. The fact that they're focusing here on Miami, Florida is a testament to the fact that the United States hit right now. Miami is a hit right now. It is front and center of what's happening economically and investment wise right now in the global forum. So this summit, it's been nine years in other areas of the world, in Latin America. This is the first year it's been in the United States. And I think it's meant to be sort of an example of how U.S. investment or investment in the United States can be a template for something greater because the US Economy is number one right now. And I guarantee you that President Trump is going to tout how great the economy is, how Things are becoming more affordable that we're keeping inflation down. So any moment, President Trump will be coming out. In fact, it might be just a couple minutes from now. Terrence. Absolutely. We hear the crowd starting to get excited and we, of course, will take folks there to Miami once President Trump takes the stage really quickly, in about 10 seconds. Give me like a list of who's who of who's going to be speaking there. Absolutely. So we had Maria Machado, the Nobel Peace Prize winner earlier today, Saudi ambassador to the United States, motivational speaker Tony Robbins, Ken Griffin, CEO of Citadel and the presidents of F1 and FIFA. And one of my favorite here, it's Terrence. International soccer star Leo Messi of Inter Miami is going to be speaking the keynote tonight. Bo, I'm sure you are my brother from another mother. I'm a huge soccer fan. So seeing Lionel Messi would be pretty awesome as well. We'll check back with you later on, Bo, as we continue to wait to hear from President Trump. We'll take you there live. Democracy lives in light. The Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Of course. I'm Andrew Colbert, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Pastor Greg, Laurie and Lucas Miles, who helps head up our TPUSA faith team. Probably jumped the gun there because I got to tell you about a partner, but I'm just so excited to have you guys in here. Good to be here. Hang tight. Real quick. I'm going to tell you about my Patriot supply. Many of us are hopeful about the direction the country is headed. Well, you know, maybe not so much after last night, but that's okay. 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Love those guys. They help me out in a big way. All right, so as I said, Pastor Greg Laurie is in the house. Pastor, you are one of the most. I'm going to say it. You're going to. You don't have to say it, but you're one of the most famous evangelists in the country. You do Harvest Crusades in Angel Stadium, all over the country as well. Thousands and thousands of people come to faith in Jesus Christ. You know, you knew Charlie, you, you came to our events, you've been supportive. You, you do things the right way. You have a long history and a really thriving church in Southern California, multiple campuses. Because I've known you for years, I just want you to help make sense of this moment. You know, a lot of people talking about revival. We've seen revival. We've also seen opposition. The floor is yours. I mean, help us put eyes to this. Well, I'm reminded of that first line of A Tale of Two Cities. That was the best of times, that was the worst of times. You know, both things can happen simultaneously. And these are dark times, but they're very bright times. And there are signs of revival. And I don't say that lightly because I was around for the last great spiritual awakening, the Jesus movement. You know, I didn't realize it at the time, Andrew, but I had a front row seat to an actual spiritual awakening, the last great awakening, and of all places in California. And so, you know, looking back in retrospect, and we made a movie about it called Jesus Revolution, or actually, John Irwin, the director, had the vision to make this film. And so people say, do you think we're having another Jesus revolution? I said, well, I see promising signs. But now, looking at the last just few months, I would say I see more than promising signs. I see things happening that have not happened for a long time and things that have never happened at all. Take baptisms, for instance. You know, back in the Haiti of the Jesus movement, we would go to a little spot called Pirates Cove and baptize a lot of people. But in the last just few years, we've seen over 20,000 people baptized at that same spot. The movie had a little cause and effect. It was sort of like a case of, you know, they see a movie or whatever. Art imitates life. In this case, life is imitating art imitating life. People said, oh, I want to be baptized in that spot. But this is a phenomena. And of course, since Charlie was killed. And I hate to say that, but you know, we have to say this. And I think it's more than just saying he died, he was murdered. And we all know that, but. And you know, I'm humbled and honored to be in the studio where he would sit in the seat right next to me and do what he did so well. But it's like rocket fuel has been poured on a pre existing fire. And I see it intensifying. In fact, Wall Street Journal, you probably saw this article, even commented on the upsurge of Bible sales. And they directly attribute this to Charlie's death. And so, you know, Andrew, you may remember that our son Christopher died in an automobile accident 16 years ago. And so I think when something tragic happens to Christians like that, we try to like, why? Why did God let this happen? And sometimes some Christians, well meaning, but I think misdirected, will try to find cause and effect like this happened. So this other thing will happen. I think we need to separate them, then look at them together. Charlie being killed was a horrible tragedy. The end. But despite a horrible tragedy, God is doing a mighty work. And we could look at Stephen, which is a direct parallel. The death of Stephen was a tragedy. And to the point we even read that godly men mourned over him. You know, so it was a tragedy for the church. Yet the gospel went out with greater power after the death of Stephen because the church finally got the memo, oh yeah, we're not supposed to hang around in Jerusalem in a holy huddle. We're supposed to spread across the world and preach the gospel. And that's what happened after Stephen's death. So we can see a horrible tragedy that God is using. Not long before Charlie was killed, he was asked, what is your favorite Bible passage? And you remember it is Romans 8:28. God can cause all things to work together for good to those that love God. And as Joseph said to his brothers who betrayed him, you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. So we see God working despite the tragedy. And I like to make that distinction despite the tragedy. And I am thinking, if I am Charlie in heaven, I would rejoice knowing that this was happening after I was called home to glory, you know. And so I think that's probably the greatest tribute that, you know, this is a man that lived a godly life, a life of integrity, a life of passion, a life of purpose. And a lot of people who never even heard his name before are now going, who is this guy and what did he actually believe, and they're not believing the caricature of Charlie presented by people that hate him and hate what he stands for. But they're checking out his own videos and seeing he was actually very civil, very patient. People would insult him to his face, and he would just listen, and then he would patiently respond. And, you know, so they're seeing what this guy really stood for. And so I think that we are seeing revival, like things happen right now. And there's no question that Charlie's death has had an effect on this. That's beautifully said. I think you. You summed up so much of what, what I'm seeing, what I'm noticing. But I'm curious, Lucas, like, you are the tip of the spear when it comes to tpusa faith and building out, you know, the church network. And we've seen this tremendous growth. I think we went last, last data point I saw, and it's probably bigger than that now, but it was, you know, we had 4,000 churches in our network. Now we have over 8,000, 8,000. So tell us what you're seeing on that front. Yeah, I mean, first off, I will say, as you know, because I. I pastor myself, I still have a church in Indiana, and then also head up the faith department here. And that was something that Charlie and I, you know, as we were kind of designing my role, felt like if I'm going to call on the nation's pastors, it's important to do so, you know, as a pastor. And my own church has doubled in size during this time period. And I've heard that same report from churches throughout our network. I mean, you know, in the last 60 days, countless text messages from pastors saying, we're up 10%, we're at 15%, we're up 30%, we're up 40%. You know, some churches that doubled. And it's been absolutely remarkable to see. And it's not. You can't. You can't fabricate revival like this. No. You know, you can't throw advertising dollars and get. Just change hearts for people to start buying Bibles and showing up to church and everything else. And it was. There was, you know, the catalyst was the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. And when Charlie. When Charlie lost his life and the instantaneous reaction, obviously grief, obviously horror, obvious pain, but the immediate aftermath was, I need Jesus. And people just started showing up to church. I mean, we had a guy who had never been to church in his entire life show up. And I think the thing that this also does. And we had talked about this a little bit. Is it drew a line in the sand for pastors. If your pastor was silent during COVID silent during all the trans stuff in the schools, now silent during the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. You know, you talked about that those righteous men, you know, grieved Stephen's death. And we had a lot of clergy that did not even talk about this. And just as a pastor, you know, how horrified I was to see, you know, other, other, quote, unquote, men of the cloth not know how to navigate that moment and to miss the opportunity for revival in this nation. Well, and this is why I'm so glad to have you on, Greg, because, you know, I was talking with a pastor recently who said that he thought that there. I don't know, I can't remember if he said there was judgment on big Eva, big evangelicalism, or that the revival was going to bypass the pulpit system. And you're one of those pastors that I would not include in that prescription. I think you have been faithful. You have proclaimed the gospel. You have been steady and consistent. And so I guess my question out of that thought is, what does the church need to do to capture this moment, this energy? Because I do think there is a potential where people were going to Charlie on social media. They weren't necessarily even in life. We saw that church attendance was starting to click up, that Bible sales were clicking up after years and years of decline. We saw that balance out. So what is your call to pastors that find themselves in a position to harness this energy? Well, the problem, Andrew, is sometimes pastors are answering questions people are not asking and they're not answering the questions that are being asked. This is a moment in time and we need to seize the moment. And like you said, Lucas, so many people coming to church and specifically young people, and this is what I see as a parallel between this moment and the Jesus movement. The Jesus movement was a youth revival. And I see young people coming back. Of course, we are already seeing this trend. Charlie even talked about it. Gen Z kids coming back to church, and specifically Gen Z boys. And I've never heard of that before because usually, let's be honest, women lead the way in spiritual things. But to see young men starting to come, and I think voices like Charlie's and others that, you know, Jordan Peterson, other voices, encourage men, encourage men to embrace their masculinity, biblical masculinity, but I think even more to be men of God. And so I think this is a moment in time. I don't think we can be neutral. The culture has encroached on the church now. Now they're coming into our world. And we saw with COVID and the shutdowns, we certainly saw it in California, some churches shutting down stained clothes for months on end and what a mistake that was. But also, you know, pushing trans issues. And we need to speak up for these things. I don't think we can say any more to our congregants. We'll just vote your conscience. Now. They need to vote biblically. And as pastors, we have a responsibility to educate them biblically. What does the Bible say about these things? And offer theology without apology. So, you know, even in the Democratic Party, they're decrying the extremism in it. And that is what seems to be influencing the party more and more right now, as we've seen in the election in New York for mayor in other areas. And so, okay, fine. But we need to be overt and out front and direct in what we believe. And if our founding fathers had cowered, we wouldn't have in America to celebrate this freedom in today like we have right now. So this is a moment. You got to stand up, be counted. I want to encourage my fellow pastors to do that. But here's the most important thing. Preach the gospel. You know, I interviewed Frank Turek the other day for my podcast, and he said, Charlie said to him, you know, what we do politically is potatoes compared to the gospel. 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We're going to have national radio back in about five seconds. Hang right there. More with Pastor Greg Laurie. All right, welcome to, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett here with Pastor Greg Laurie and Lucas Miles. I want to, I'm gonna go, we're gonna go there, right? Because there's a lot of blessings right now. There's a lot of momentum. But then you see these distractions and you see, you know, people, all they wanna talk about is they wanna talk about Israel, they wanna talk about foreign policy. There's this infighting that you're seeing within the, within the church, within the conservative movement. And I couldn't help but think about that as the results were coming in last night. Is that man, if we could focus some of this energy on winning elections or building unity as opposed to division. So Lucas, you are at, in some ways at the tip of the spear on some of this church based stuff, right? And there are factions, there are people that want this group to say this and this group to proclaim this and draw a line in the sand and this. How are you navigating this? Because there's just a lot of infights. You know, anytime you work with pastors across different denominations, you have certain hot button issues that make unity difficult. Okay. I shared with my staff. We all got together at the night of the memorial. Afterwards, we got together for a dinner and just fellowshiped together and just kind of cried and prayed together. And I told them, I said, this moment of unity that we're seeing right now, I want to prepare you for. The enemy does not want to see this continue. And there's a potential for, you know, the next phase is going to be factions and division and everything else that can potentially cut the enemy's predictable. We're not unaware of his schemes in that way. And so we're seeing this. You know, the issue of Israel is obviously one of those. You have, you know, there's other things like, you know, views of spiritual gifts and, you know, once saved, always saved. Calvinism versus Arminianism, you know, we could look at those things. But I think this issue of Israel has become a very big dividing point, you know, for people right now. And unfortunately, the conversation is being driven really by people that aren't very theological. They don't have a doctrinal approach to this. They see this as there's only one or two options. You're either, you know, taken money from Israel and you're bought and paid for, and that's why you're dispensationalist, or your replacement theology, and Israel doesn't matter at all. And there's nothing from a theological standpoint. There's actually a wide spectrum. You have, you know, radical dispensationalism on one side, and you have replacement theology on the other side. And, you know, across the spectrum, from a Christian vantage point, all of those views would actually have support for Israel. They would actually have, you know, a positive view. I'm so glad you're saying this, and I don't mean to cut you off. So I'm sorry, Lucas, but this idea that you're either for or against the nation of Israel, I'm like, do you have any idea how off putting that binary is? And that the people on both ends of the spectrum that are pushing you to accept one or the other, and I'm like, there's about a hundred iterations between 100%. You know, it's like, like. So I just. I think the whole discourse has been really tainted and corrupted, and it's not productive. Actually. The question obviously, you know, defining Israel is A thing we have to do, recognizing their purpose and place in history, all these sorts of things. And theologically, we have answers for that throughout this spectrum. And so when we say, you know, the idea of what's God's view of Israel? The unifying view is this, you know, because we're not going to get dispensationalists and replace theology guys, to agree on everything theologically. But what we can agree with is God loves people, he's faithful. He wants to see promises fulfilled, and he wants to win over people for the sake of the gospel. And when you start with that framework and then start building from there, these things start making a lot more sense as you navigate through it. So, Pastor, final two minutes to you here. Two minutes. Yeah, I know it's quick. We could go over the break if we have to. The floor is yours on this very contentious issue. All right. Well, I am one of those dispensationalists, and I believe that God has placed the Jewish people in the land. They are not colonizers. They are the indigenous people of the land that God gave to them. And he made promises to them. And I believe God keeps his promises. And when you read Romans 9:11, you see that he made a covenant with Israel. And so I think that, yes, you have to understand Israel in the light of the Holocaust. You know, when I was in Washington, D.C. recently, I went to the Holocaust Museum and to think of the suffering these people have gone through. And so they returned to their homeland against all odds. And I believe also the prophetic time clock started ticking on May 14, 1948, when Israel became a nation. Having said that, that doesn't mean that I have to agree with everything that the modern state of Israel does, but I don't agree with everything that the United States does. But I still support the Jewish people. It is the land that God gave to them. And I think that we should pray for them and stand by them because anti Semitism is on the rise. I just interviewed Marco Rubio at the State Department, and I raised this very question with him. I loved his response, and it was that anti Semitism is evil. And so I think that we need. The Jewish people are beginning to understand that their best friend is the evangelical Christian. But we do ultimately pray without apology that they come to embrace Jesus as their Messiah. And we're going to go over just a little bit on the stream for podcast because the question is, okay, so not everybody's going to agree with what you just said. How do we bring unity in spite of that? So radio we'll see you tomorrow. Stream if I podcast, we're going to keep going for just a few more minutes. America's Christian Credit Union stands firm in faith, serves the community and delivers top financial services with elite checking. Earn up to 4% APY on balances under $15,000. Get paid early, enjoy loan discounts and more, because at accu, your money should reflect your mission. Visit America's Christian to learn more. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. 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