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Charlie Kirk
The Charlie Kirk show starts now.
Erica Kirk
If you're up late with us on.
Andrew Colvett
The West Coast, Donald Trump is on the verge of returning to the White House. At this hour, what you are seeing is Donald Trump on the precipice of.
Donald Trump
The greatest comeback in American political history.
Andrew Colvett
We've never seen anything like this.
Donald Trump
Here he is, risen from his ashes yet again. The Fox News decision desk can now officially project that Donald Trump will become the 32nd President of the United States. The golden age of America begins right now. From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world during every single day of the Trump administration. I will very simply put America first.
Erica Kirk
What do you hope to accomplish in.
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Donald Trump
Look, we have the greatest nine months in the history of the presidency. So if I can keep that going, I'll be very happy.
Andrew Colvett
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Erica Kirk.
Erica Kirk
I'll never forget the time where someone told him, I appreciate what you're saying. I just don't really like how you're saying it. I don't like your delivery. And with his smirk, he would say, you're missing the point. It's not how I'm saying it that's upsetting people. It's the fact that I'm saying the truth that's upsetting people. And that's what the truth does. It convicts you. It changes you. And that's why he always spoke the way he did. He wasn't afraid to say the truth, to defend the truth, to lean into it to not follow the crowd. He was a leader of it.
Andrew Colvett
You know the famous quote, behind every great man is a great woman. We're now realizing how great Charlie was by seeing how great Erica is. Erica has been able to take hope from grief. She didn't ask for this mission. She accepted this mission. This was not something she wanted, but this is something she's now duty bound to do. Charlie's mission was to save Western civilization. And that is now her mission.
Erica Kirk
I'll keep speaking the truth, no matter the cost. No matter the cost. And I pray that all of you do too. She's done three things that defy human understanding. And the third was in your interview. The first is when she said, I forgive him on that stage. Defies human understanding to be able to say I forgive him. The second is when she said on that stage at the memorial, thy will be done that defies understanding when you've lost a husband. Husband to your two children and he's gone forever on this earth. And then last night in your interview, you asked her if she was angry at God. And she said, I'm not angry at God. Do you know how hard that is to do? To say and to mean? She has done three things that defy human understanding. And she's able to do it because she has the love of Jesus Christ in her heart. Charlie had that. And what a beautiful message. No one is more deserving of that award tonight than Erica Kirk.
Donald Trump
To believe. But just think of it. One year ago, we were still in the middle of a presidential campaign. Can you believe that? It seems like 10 years have passed since that time. Since we've done so much, we have really done a lot. It's frankly a very different world. America is back and America is respected, perhaps like never before. Our economy is roaring, our border is secure, and our country is poised for greatness. We are doing better than anyone ever thought possible. And no president has ever come even close to doing what we've done in nine months. Thank you very much.
Sean Davis
God is not done with the United States of America.
Andrew Colvett
Our best days are ahead of us.
Donald Trump
On November 5, 2024, the American people reclaimed our government. We restored our sovereignty, we rescued our economy, regained our liberty, and together, we saved our country. And I'm pleased to report that today the United States has the strongest economy, the strongest borders, the strongest military, the strongest friendships, and the strongest spirit of any nation anywhere. The golden age of America has begun. And we are just getting started.
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Andrew Colvett
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Greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show.
Charlie Kirk
Buckle up.
Andrew Colvett
Here we go.
Donald Trump
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Charlie Kirk
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show. I am joined here on set in dc. No, we did not change the Charlie Kirk set. This happened last time. We did not change the set. But I am joined here by Sean Davis, CEO and co founder of the Federalist and Lomez. Jonathan Keeperman on my right. If we. I think we've got cameras on them.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
There we go.
Charlie Kirk
Eventually you will see them here in D.C. and then Blake Neff is joining us from Phoenix.
Sean Davis
Blake, are you there?
Andrew Colvett
That's where the normal studio is. We can prove that it does still exist. It still hasn't been bulldozed. Hasn't been changed. Yeah, chair is there it is. No panic. No panic in the emails, please. We're still.
Charlie Kirk
Well, this was actually funny. You guys would appreciate this. Last time Blake and I and I think Jack was with us posto we were here. I mean, our inbox was like inundated with people like, I can't believe you changed the set. We're like, no, we just, we just were visiting. It was during the medal ceremony the last time we were here. But thanks to the real America's voice team for making this studio available to us. Gentlemen, there's a lot going on. We're in the middle of A shutdown. We were actually just talking about how our flights got delayed because of the air traffic controller holds or whatever because there's less air traffic controllers in the air. There's a lot going on that is really important, and we want to get to it. But there was a moment last night at the Patriot Awards where Erica Kirk received the first ever Charlie Kirk Legacy Award. And I think this is one of the. She's just been so courageous, you guys. I don't have to tell you about all the distractions and all of the conspiracies and all of the. All of the things that could distract and really derail a lesser human, but she's just really been so strong and so gracious and so, I don't know, steady in the midst of this unbelievable situation that nobody should ever have to be in. I'm curious about your guys pov. Just from the outside watching, as you know, she's done her first interview, now she's accepting awards and she's. She's doing a phenomenal job, in my opinion. But what is it like for you guys?
Sean Davis
Yeah, I mean, I can remember going back to September 10th and, you know, experiencing this with my own wife, who I love. I love you wherever you are. However, I couldn't imagine her just stepping into a role like this and just sort of like seamlessly filling into the enormous shoes of Charlie and not just getting up on stage and just mouthing the right words, but really embodying Charlie's spirit in a way that's almost uncanny, like his ability to bring people together, this sort of just strength of purpose that comes with everything she does. And so it's been a really sort of remarkable thing to observe from the outside. And I think, you know, of course, this is a testament to Charlie as well. He obviously has really good taste, and he picked a winner.
Charlie Kirk
Well, Sean, I'm going to get to you and Blake here, but 409 is basically Jesse Waters, who got the first exclusive interview with her saying the same thing. 409.
Andrew Colvett
Famous quote, behind every great man is a great woman. We're now realizing how great Charlie was by seeing how great Erica is. Erica has been able to take hope from grief. She didn't ask for this mission. She accepted this mission. This was not something she wanted, but this is something she's now duty bound to do. Charlie's mission was to save Western civilization, and that is now her mission.
Charlie Kirk
John?
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about this since September 10th, and I've always wondered, watching people be martyred overseas. When you see people, they've got the bags over their head, they're lined up, and you wonder how do they have the strength to go through what they know they're about to go through? And I'm convinced it's grace from the Holy Spirit in the moment that he knows we need it. I watch Erica and I think to myself, there's no way she does this without the Holy Spirit. She has been given so much grace and so much courage not to take anything away from her personally, but there's no way any of us could. Could manage that on our own. There's no way any human on their own power could handle that grief and that burden. And to go out there and see her do it, I think it's just absolutely amazing.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I. Okay. I was. I was. I was messaging with Blake just because it is. We are studios apart. And I was like, blake, you want to, you know, you should chime in here. He's like. He's like, no, it's good. I'm going to explode when we get to these two next topics. So in lieu of that, I want to say, I want to te the audience for Blake. The Blake rants are becoming legendary. Let's go ahead and play a clip then from Erica at this event. Let's. Let's go ahead and say let's. Let's play 407.
Erica Kirk
This whole room feels it. This whole nation feels the spiritual warfare. But Charlie would say that's how you know you're over the mark when you feel it. When the enemy is there, that's how you know you're doing the Lord's work, and that's how you know you're defending truth. And that was his true barometer, was when he would feel that spiritual warfare. And I watched him pour every ounce of himself into the students, into raising up the most courageous generation and inspiring so many people to stand firm in faith and to love this country.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I mean, that. That really is. You know, when you talk about spiritual warfare, you know, I was talking about Lomas, Jonathan Keeperman. Still not. We're still haven't settled on how we're going to.
Sean Davis
It can be either one.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
Maybe J.
Andrew Colvett
Lo.
Sean Davis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Charlie Kirk
Jonathan Lomas. You know, but this feeling of spiritual warfare is really palpable right now, and it's hard to explain. I think a lot of people in our audience feel it. If you just log onto social media for, like, two seconds, you'll see it.
Sean Davis
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk
You know, there is a churning happening right now, and it's impossible to know where it's going to settle out. But I think we felt it before Charlie was assassinated. And then as soon as Charlie was assassinated, it's like there was this moment of unity and, and sort of beauty really. And I think in the last couple weeks, people really come to see that we are in a time of churning and testing, both as a movement, as a country.
Sean Davis
Well, I think for me anyway, in Charlie's absence, it was only in the last couple of months that I came to realize just what a sort of central figure of gravity he was, holding this whole coalition together. And in his absence, you do see sort of the barbarians at the gate. You see people and forces sort of coming into this coalition and using sort of the vacuum that was created by Charlie's untimely death to fill it with, you know, different kinds of ideas and different sort of self interested agendas that could derail what was a really strong thing and what still is, but is going to require, I think, everybody to sort of take a cue from Erica and try to embody this unifying spirit that Charlie had. And so I think that's the task before us here.
Charlie Kirk
You know, Blake, I think this is a good time to actually throw to you because you've been sounding off, I've been looking at your, your Twitter actually, and you, you have really emerged in my opinion. And I don't mean to make you embarrassed here, but as a voice of, of common sense and a strong, forceful voice, I'm super grateful for it, actually. We had to encourage Blake to, to start tweeting. But what's your take on this?
Andrew Colvett
He forced me to start reading. I want to be on the record for that.
Charlie Kirk
Well, I knew, I knew how great you would be at it. I mean, honestly, you, you are a lot of things, Blake, but you have a mor is profound. So final thoughts to you in this segment.
Andrew Colvett
It's just, yeah, it's been a very trying time for a lot of people. It would be trying no matter what happened, but just it really, it makes you appreciate how many different things can stress you out through a difficult moment because you have the obvious loss of Charlie and then you have, you know, then you have, you have the good problems, like how do you manage the outpouring of support? How do you make sure that what happened to him, you know, you know, the surge of spiritual energy, make sure that's not wasted, make sure his martyrdom is not, you know, is not just this tragedy with no upside to it, but then, you know, the follow ons, you know, you have the vicious people who try to come at whatever the big topic is. You have the kind of oddballs who just invented bizarre things and then get obsessed with them and harass you. You have to really maintain. We have to work on maintaining your composure through difficult periods and I think all of us have learned how to do that. But it's a real challenge. And Eric most of all.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, she's been doing great though. More with Shawn Davis and Lomez. We'll be right back.
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Sean Davis
Yeah, so I got a new show on the Blaze with Christopher Rufo. Rufo and Lomas. Please subscribe on YouTube and you guys.
Charlie Kirk
Would make a great podcast.
Sean Davis
I think so. I mean, look, we've been talking here about, like this kind of disintegration and chaos and all the psychodrama going on on the right right now. And it feels like we're kind of unmoored and there isn't any real, like, calm, dispassionate analysis of what's going on. And so, you know, I don't want to promise too much, but the idea of the show is that Chris and I were just going to do it once a week. It's not going to be reactive to the news or anything like that. We're going to kind of take a distance approach and try to unpack exactly what's going on on the right and better understand some of.
Charlie Kirk
Well, we'll keep talking about that because Sean gave us a little pump up in the break that I want to get to. Welcome back national radio. One second. All right, welcome back, radio stations across the country. I'm Andrew Colvett, joined by Sean Davis and Lomas, AKA Jonathan Keeperman. Passage Press. Passage Press.
Sean Davis
Passage Press. That's right.
Charlie Kirk
Great publishing company, great news analysis, commentary. The Federalist is one of the best guys. You got to check out both of these. Both of these guys work truly important now. So you've got a new show coming out, a podcast with Christopher Ruffo, the great Christopher Ruffo. And you're talking about this psychodrama on the right.
Sean Davis
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk
And I think this is, I think, like in the long run, this is actually, I think, you know, yes, I said something on Twitter yesterday that what God has unleashed, man cannot stop. And that doesn't matter if it's people that we perceive as conservatives or liberals or whatever. I really believe that what God has unleashed in Charlie's assassination, his martyrdom, that man cannot stop. It will take its course. The gospel will march forward. The truth will march forward. And I think that's what makes what Erica. Her steady hand, her grace and her courage makes it even more poignant. But, Sean, you said something that you wake up every morning and you're like. You're like, let's go. Let's go. And I. Lomaz and I were like, sometimes we just look at the Internet. We're like, you know, no, thanks. But where does that come from in you? And tell us more. We need it.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
Yeah, no, I'm jacked up for the fight, man.
Charlie Kirk
Love it.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
And I don't think I've ever felt more energized than in the wake of Charlie being killed. Because never before has it been so clear what the stakes are. It's good versus evil, period. And here's the thing. Here's the thing that should encourage everyone. We are going to win. We are going to win because we are behind a God who doesn't lose. So when you know that. When you know that you're on God's side, that his army's going to win, that the debt's been paid, that death has been destroyed forever, why on earth would you not be totally jacked up and encouraged? Like, it's worth remembering what discouragement is. Just think about the word. It's a lack of courage. So being discouraged is actually sinful. Being despondent is sinful. It's okay to be sad. It's okay to mourn. We should never be discouraged because God has defeated everything. Christ has defeated death. What on earth do we have to worry about? All he's asking us to do is go forward and fight the battle that he's already set out for us. It's like, man, pick up your sword, pick up your book, your pen, whatever it is, and get jacked up and get to it.
Charlie Kirk
Well, we do have some good news, and this is for Blake. Pelosi is retiring. She is not going to seek reelection. So, sorry. When you. You just said evil has been defeated and all this stuff, I just thought. It's a good segue, Blake. What do we make of Pelosi finally hanging up her spurs or whatever they are?
Andrew Colvett
She's a very symbolic figure of a lot of trends in American life, and we should see her often properly. So, you know, first of all, she's leaving office at 85 years old, so she perfectly represents Gerontocracy. She's been let Me check how long she's been a representative from California since 1987, which I have bad news is nearly 40 years ago for all of you who are around my age. And she, you know, was. She first became speaker of the house back in 2007, nearly 20 years ago, had two separate stints at it. And beyond that, she represents a lot of things. She represents the total political invincibility of the urban Democrat machine. She represented San Francisco itself, which has become this unlivable, you know, homeless infested, drug infested, feces encrusted disaster, yet can never seemingly really change and still costs a gazillion dollars. It's sort of this disaster piece of a city. And she represents other things. You know, a lot of people have been pointing towards her stock returns that she. I think she beat the market by about 600% in her investments over the years. And it's sort of like no one ever really stops that from happening. No one seems to be interested in banning that. It's almost like a giant shrug from, you know, the American governing class that she's able to do that. And also just what she represents more broadly for the Democrats, she was born. She's kind of this, like this fossil from the 60s. We literally have photos of her hanging out with John F. Kennedy. And she oversaw this total transformation of America that, as we're going to see when we show that British veteran up ahead, like this transformation of the west, this transformation of America that almost everyone recognizes is in a negative direction, where they had this incredibly world, historically successful country and society, and they sort of gave it away for stock market returns and cheap trinkets and ethnic food.
Sean Davis
Lomas, you know, can I say something controversial here?
Charlie Kirk
I would hope.
Sean Davis
Nancy Pelosi, while I agree with everything Blake says, I also have a kind of grudging respect for her because she also represents a kind of administrative vigor and competence that I think is at least something that we could try to emulate. I mean, she kept together this, like, coalition of the fringes for years. And, you know, I think what comes next for the Democrats is far worse than anything Nancy Pelosi did. It's complete chaos.
Charlie Kirk
I said. I say the same thing about Gavin Newsom, which people get so mad at me. I'm like. I'm like, listen, as somebody who's lived in California, Gavin Newsome is like a puppy dog compared to what's waiting in the wings. So be careful what you wish for. Gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Andrew Colvett
Fact first, America first. Welcome back to the CHARLIE Kirk show.
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Charlie Kirk
Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. We are in the DC Studio, real America's Voice. Thanks to those gentlemen for making this possible. And Parker and Rob and the guys, phenomenal human beings. Also, we've got Sean Davis, CEO and co founder of the Federalist. Amazing. Why don't you plug your stuff here real quick?
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Charlie Kirk
So there was a clip here that is going viral and Blake is, I know, excited to chime in on this as well back in Phoenix. So there's a hundred year old military veteran from the UK and this clip was posted 8 hours ago on Good Morning Britain. And basically we talked about Nancy Pelosi. She was born 15 years after this gentleman was born. So the crossover has been, you know, extreme. And we talk about how we have squandered so much of what we the war bounty after World War II defeated fascism and then only to give it away, as Blake said, for, you know, cheap trinkets and ethnic food and, you know, a GDP and a skyrocketing deficit and debt. And so and this is a, a theme that we've seen across the west as we become more unchurched, as we've become more multicultural, as we've seen our own culture degrade and corrode and the cultural cohesion really strained to the max. And so this powerful clip from this, this hundred year old Gentleman, you could tell he's not saying this in a mean spirit and I think that's what makes it so. So striking. So let's get. Let's go ahead and play it. 4:33.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, Alec, I'm sorry you feel like that because I want you to know that all the generations that have come since, and my children are so grateful for your bravery and all that for service personnel and it's our job now, isn't it to make it the country.
Bernadette
That you fought for.
Andrew Colvett
You absolutely fought for. And we will do. We want to.
Donald Trump
I'm so wonderful to know there are people like you.
Andrew Colvett
Spread the word around. We will do. Younger generation.
Charlie Kirk
Whoops.
Andrew Colvett
We got the after there before. The before.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, the after. Let's.
Sean Davis
Sorry about that.
Charlie Kirk
Let's go ahead and play the before. Yeah, please. 410 a country of today. No, I'm sorry.
Andrew Colvett
The sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now. What we fought for, what we fought.
Donald Trump
For was our freedom.
Andrew Colvett
We find that even now is downside worse than what it was when I fought for it.
Charlie Kirk
The sacrifice wasn't worth what. What we've gotten from it. You know, it's really gloomy. You can find.
Andrew Colvett
There's another book, I don't remember the name off the top of my head. Lomas might remember to tell me. If you do, there is a book probably came out like 30 years ago or so when there were more veterans still alive in Britain. And it was a similar thing asking them how they felt about British society. And it came out over and over again that they said it just. It felt like the sacrifices weren't worth it because when they thought of the country they'd fought for, they fought for, you know, they thought, they thought they were fighting for Christian civilization for the English people, for Britain as this free society of, you know, that gave us all those constitutional liberties we care about as a British descended country, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, you know, the nature of parliament and all of that. And then they just saw it get thrown away. They saw their country, you know, get rid of free enterprise and become one of the sort of most socialist, most over regulated and as a result most inefficient and like low growth countries, they massively roll back freedom of speech. You're now far more likely to get arrested for saying something offensive on the Internet in Britain than you are in the People's Republic of China. You're far more likely to get in trouble for you know, some perceived like racist offense or homophobic offense there than you are in a bunch of supposedly more authoritarian countries. And on top of that, they see their leaders just openly saying british people deserve to be replaced, that there's no such thing as an English people or a British people, and they don't have a right to have a country that is presumptively their own. And it's so depressing, frankly, that this guy had to live long enough to see it become as bad as it did. He. I think he's realizing, you know, he would have been luckier if he. If he died a lot younger than he's living to be now.
Sean Davis
I think also for me, this puts into perspective what we're doing here, okay? Like, we've been talking about a lot of this, like, petty squabbling going on on the right. And you hear someone like this and you've got to take a step back and like, realize these are like civilizational stakes here and we've got to remember who the enemy is and where the real forces of sort of decay and degradation are coming from. And I hope, like, the lesson for me would be, okay, we owe it to people like this, the memories of people like this to preserve this civilization they fought for. And we got to refocus on what's really important here. You know, we have like a situation in Minnesota with like this, you know, negotiating kind of like Somalian ethnic squabbling, okay, over who's going to be the mayor of Minneapolis. And you have, you know, people trying to castrate children and stuff, and you go, okay, that's, that's where the fight is. Can we refocus on the things that matters and get away from a lot of these trivial trivialities that frankly are just distracting us from that.
Andrew Colvett
I want to, I want to flag that in case people don't know what you're talking about, because it's so great. It's very quick. You mentioned the Somali ethnic squabbles. So this is getting reported on X, that allegedly a significant number of Somalis in Minneapolis did not vote for Omar Fateh, the Somali candidate for mayor, because he is apparently part of the Darud clan rather than the Hawiye clan in Somali culture. And they are hostile to each other. They don't like each other, allegedly. The, the Ilhan Omar is also a member of the Darud clan. So the Hawiye's also don't like Ilhan Omar over that. You know, the remark I said was, you know, imagine Ben Franklin saying, you know, a nation of never ending ethnic squabbles from the third world. If you can Keep it.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
Well, yeah, it's true. When you import the third world, you import every third world tribal clan based war, grievousness. You're bringing in all their battles and all their ancient hatred and they're fighting it out in your streets.
Charlie Kirk
Well, and listen, I mean, you know, it is sort of like an expression that Blake uses sometimes. We talk about advanced civilizational tech, right? Like monogamy is one of these really powerful civilizational technologies that tends to make men more productive. We focus on building our families, our businesses, our home life as opposed to, you know, warring against this warlord that's got 30 wives. And we're sort of aimless and, and wifeless and childless. And so it tends to be this really amazing thing for society. But there's another thing about Western civilization that is so profoundly amazing and that is that we've, we've managed in many ways not perfectly. Obviously the Scots and the Picts and the, and the Welsh and the English would tell you that it's not perfect certainly, but this binding together under constitutional systems and republics and putting sectarianism and clannish behavior behind us. And really what's interesting, and it has to be a bigger question because I think you have to know the root cause if you're going to solve it, is why in the west, specifically the English speaking West, did we decide that it was not okay to be proud of ourselves, to be proud of our national identity? Where did that happen, when did it happen and what is the root cause? Because in some ways you could define MAGA as a resurgence of national pride. And people that have at least identified that they want to be proud of their own nation.
Sean Davis
I think it's, I think we have lost the courage, we have lost the confidence to simply say straightforwardly our way of life is better than other ways of life. And when people come here, they need to assimilate into our better way of life. It's not just that it's different. The way of life we have here in the west is better. And it's okay to say that. We need to have the confidence to be able to say that. And I think, you know, we've lost the ability to just explicitly make that claim.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
You don't even really have to make the claim. You just have to point out the contrast. American culture is superior to Somali culture. You know how we know? Because look at there and look at here. It's better here. It's why everyone's coming here. They're coming here because they know it's better.
Charlie Kirk
Well, I have one Note on that. And, Blake, I'd love for you to react to this clip. This is an Islamic imam, and he's explaining how they plan on taking over America. Play cut 279.
Andrew Colvett
Let's work towards that. Let's work towards a Muslim mayor. Next election that comes in, nominate people for the school board of education. Next election that comes here, nominate people for the local township. Became the demographics change. People converted. There's a big, huge conversion going on in this country. Where are the converts? They just convert and they're gone in the wilderness. The other thing, children. Muslims have the highest population average. They did a. Pew foundation, did a research study. Pew Foundation. And they said that Muslim household average is 3.4 child per family. The white American has one child per family. We're already beating the march because these are voters. These are not just babies being born in hospitals. These are voters. That's the way a politician looks at it.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. So, Blake, I mean, you. What Sean said is, they come here because it's better. I think that's true of past waves.
Andrew Colvett
No, they come because they come here. They come here because it is better. But that does not mean, like, they aspire to the culture that made it better. They also can just say, you are a giant pile of money. You are a dumb rube that I can take advantage of. And, like, we've seen that, for example, with the Somali community. Like, they remain quite clannish in the Minneapolis area. Not just they're literal clans, but, like, they're sort of closed off. You remember the justification for Ilhan Omar. The defense of her marrying her brother included the fact that when she first got married, she did not get married under any governmental system. It was only within their internal religious system. And they're well known for having pretty elaborate operations to skim government money in sinister ways, because they don't. A lot of them just don't really see it as any sort of moral offense. Like, oh, this is a giant spigot of government money, and we can take it and use it for our own ends. It's like a way of making a living like any other. And, yeah, there's this aspirational thing. They are a growing power. They can say, oh, we're going into this society and we are triumphant. We are on the march. We are growing. We can change it towards what we want it to be. And you see that assertiveness now in Britain, that's what that veteran is basically reacting to. Now you have Muslim members of Parliament, and they brag about, you know, I'M running for Gaza. I'm running to destroy the state of Israel. I'm running to ban Israeli soccer teams from playing. Their fans coming to the uk, that was the thing they did. And they of course brag, oh, we're Islamicizing the uk. We feel tremendous pain when we see, for example, a church converted into a mosque, which is happening in the us it's happening in the UK and they celebrate that. They have every reason to feel like they are winning and taking over. Why would they assimilate to a sinking ship?
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, well, there's 50 Muslim majority, 50 plus Muslim majority countries in the world and it's a simple question and if you can't answer it in any sort of satisfactory way, then we've got a much bigger problem than most people are aware of or willing to admit. Why don't they move there? No, they're coming to the west and there is a reason for that. I really quickly want to tell you about Alan Jackson, our friend over at Alan Jackson. He's got the Culture and Christianity podcast. The Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Allen's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump and the White House. I'm going to tell him to do an episode on Islam too, by the way. He doesn't just discuss the problems in every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. Each episode will make you recognize the power of your own faith and how God can use your life to impact the world. So check out the Culture and Christianity podcast. You can get it wherever podcasts are available. YouTube, Spotify, wherever else. Just make sure you subscribe so you don't miss any episodes. And if you want to find out more about Alan Jackson, go to alanjackson.com alanjackson.com Charlie More with Shaun Davis Lomez, Jonathan Keeperman, Blake Neff and myself. We'll be right back.
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Donald Trump
The great reset stops here. The Charlie Kirk Show.
Charlie Kirk
All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, so I have to, I have to do the Rufo and Lomaz bumper here.
Sean Davis
Oh boy.
Charlie Kirk
And I just, I, I told you in the break, I just feel bad for, for Rufo that he's just, you know. Yeah, he's the bit player in this, in this world you're creating.
Sean Davis
That's okay, man. You know, he'll recover. He'll recover.
Charlie Kirk
We love Rufa. It's all right, it's all right. I'm just giving, I'm, I'm busting his chops, I think is one of these expressions that would work. Let's go ahead and play it. 432 Rufo and Lomas.
Andrew Colvett
I think quietly rational people are hoping that Trump solves their problem for them.
Sean Davis
Yes. There's no conservative equivalent to Jimmy Kimmel on network television and something needs to be done about that.
Andrew Colvett
I think the problem is related to trans ideology and it is involved in.
Sean Davis
Online communities whether it's popular or not.
Mikey McCoy
That is a common denominator that I.
Sean Davis
Think has some causation. Is America a force for good or a force for bad? Is the West a civilizational force for good or a force for bad? Do you believe in Bigfoot? Christopher Rufo.
Charlie Kirk
That's great now.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk
Listen, I'm really excited about the show. I'm going to be a subscriber. Absolutely. Two great minds talking about the most important ideas. Welcome back, national radio and you. Just one sec.
Sean Davis
All right.
Charlie Kirk
Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So Lomaz, Jonathan Keeferman, where do, where have you guys released an episode yet of Rufon Lomas?
Sean Davis
Yeah, yeah. No, I think the first one's being released today, so.
Charlie Kirk
Oh, fantastic.
Sean Davis
We've gone into the last week's news. All of again, the psychodrama that's been going on. We try to unpack some of that, talk about some of the elections, talk about the death of Dick Cheney and kind of what that means and the trajectory of the right over the last 20 years. It will be a weekly show, actually twice weekly, once Friday, once Tuesday. Subscribe at YouTube, anywhere you get your podcasts. BlazeTV, Rufo and Lomaz.
Charlie Kirk
Rufo and Lomez. I'm genuinely excited about that clip. I want to get to this Sydney Sweeney viral clip. Just because we've got some. We've got four dudes. Makes sense, right? Let's go ahead and play. And by the way, she gets asked by. I guess it's GQ's Kathryn Stoffel. And, Blake, you're gonna be the first one I throw to after this, so get ready. But she's asked. Don't you think it was a bad idea for you to talk about genetic superiority because you're white? 426.
Erica Kirk
I mean, the president tweeted about the jeans ad or Truth, socialed about the jeans ad. And. And that just seems to me.
Giselle
Like.
Erica Kirk
A very crazy moment for anyone. And I wondered what that was like. It was surreal. It was surreal. But the risk is that, you know, there's a chance that somebody will get some idea about what you think about certain issues. Like, do you worry about that?
Andrew Colvett
No, no.
Erica Kirk
The criticism of the content. White people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority. I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically.
Andrew Colvett
I think that when I.
Erica Kirk
Have an issue that I want to speak about, people will hear.
Donald Trump
Mmm.
Charlie Kirk
Blake Neff, your take, man.
Andrew Colvett
I saw a line on it that was so great, where there's so many layers of, like, feminine social engagement going on there. The interviewer, I want to give you an opportunity. Like, no. Like, I am kind of ordering you to say this, but I'm giving you an opportunity. I'm not understanding why you're not taking the opportunity. And then Sydney just, like, effortlessly shooting it down. I. I am not equal to this level of social adroitness. I would. I would die horribly in that situation, of course. But Charlie, you know, Charlie, obviously, he was not. Like, he would weigh in on this. It was pretty funny. And he liked to say, like, yeah, yeah, she does have great genes, doesn't she? So he would. He would sometimes find this very amusing in a detached sort of way. So I think he'd be. He'd be chuckling at how this is playing out now, and he'd be proud because it does. It does reflect. Even with the difficulties we had this week, there really is a positive vibe shift in America. Even though we had a bad midterm, it was partly because Democrats had to look around and say, we've got to give a heave ho to a lot of this really bad cultural stuff. And we are in such A better cultural place than we were a year ago, than we were five years ago. And you know, that's why not even a year ago, this loser from the Guardian tried to dox our friend Jonathan instead revealed that he is a beautiful man. And that man is going to now start his own show. And everyone's excited to watch it.
Sean Davis
It's a resentment against the beautiful and good. We must protect Sydney Sweeney at all costs. Our beautiful Helen. I mean, the funny thing about this, to me is that the underlying controversy here is that Sydney Sweeney is like, implicitly acknowledging the existence of genetics.
Giselle
Okay?
Sean Davis
Like, the left wants to sort of present this idea that it's somehow like anathema, a moral, you know, it's a betrayal of our good senses.
Charlie Kirk
White people aren't allowed to have that.
Sean Davis
You don't have genetics. We don't, we don't believe in genetics or anything.
Charlie Kirk
It's kind of goes back to our other conversation about where the west decided it couldn't believe in itself. Like white people aren't allowed to do basic things anymore. We're talking about beautiful men here.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
John Davis, so glad I could be here for this discussion.
Charlie Kirk
You get the final word, my friend.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
You can't buy these jeans off the market.
Mikey McCoy
Speaking of good genes, these come from God.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
What, what I love about that clip is that in just one screenshot, you don't even need to listen to it or watch it. One little snapshot of that and you see the total destruction of the HR Karen Hoa energy, the up talking, the passive aggressiveness, the nitpicking. And then Sydney Sweeney's like, nah, I'm good. You can actually just not denounce people on command. It's true.
Charlie Kirk
You can reject the premise. You can just say, no, I agree with Blake. There are so many layers to that. So, like, I think you're a terrible person and a lot of people do, but like, do you think that you do? And it's like there is so much going on there. And it was like Blake's other point is like, he's just so incisively cut through it and just rejected the premise and said, I'm not playing your games, lady. That the problem with this hours, it went way too quick. Hour two is going to be Blake Neff and I believe Mikey McCoy doing an AMA ask us anything. So if you are a part of members.charlie kirk.com you can send in questions, you're going to be asking them directly. You're going to be on air members.charlie kirk.com we will be right back.
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Andrew Colvett
Is probably the funnest hour of the week, certainly the one we look forward to the most. It is the ask us anything hour. It was Charlie's favorite hour of the week. Before we carry it on in his memory, I am joined in studio by Danny, a fan of the Ohio State University football team. But nobody's perfect. And I believe we also have Mikey McCoy from his undisclosed location somewhere in north. We don't have him yet. Oh, oh, that's disastrous. That's too bad. Well, he'll, we'll work on getting him in first, but we'll get right into the questions because there's a lot of good ones. Do we have Bernadette? Unmute yourself. Give us 10. Oh man, we got a really. Okay, how about them? Oh, team, man, how that Ohio State team, Danny, Phillip, they're looking real good.
Sean Davis
With best three players in the country.
Andrew Colvett
All on the same team. College football. I'm not. That's where I differ a lot from Charlie. I was not a big college football fan, but I'll, I'll probably have to defend Oregon from these. Alrighty. Alright. Okay, now we're told she's ready. Bernadette, unmute yourself. And what's your question?
Donald Trump
Can you hear me?
Andrew Colvett
Yes, we can. Yes, we can. There you are, Bernadette. Thank you for being a subscriber. And shoot.
Bernadette
Hi Blake. I'm so sorry. So I just really wanted to discuss how can we stop all these horrible rumors that are going on, you know, the collectiveness of everybody being so hateful towards the team and to what's going on with Erica. You know, it's just very hurtful since I've been a long term Turning Point investor and I love Charlie more than anything. So I just think if we need to have somebody very strong to get out there and say enough is enough, we're continuing the mission of Turning Point. We don't want to lose a piece of Charlie in this. We want to support Erica at every move. Stop analyzing everything. Stop being toddlers, you know, stop the infighting. We have enough infighting in the party as it is. And I just think a little bit more of a stand should be taken because you guys have a very hard job. You have the midterms coming.
Andrew Colvett
Yes. Yeah. You mentioned being an investor. I think you email us all the time, don't you, Bernadette? I think I see those annoying.
Giselle
Blake.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, no, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I'm sorry, we can't respond to all emails. We get a lot of them. I try to respond to someone I can, but no. Thank you for being such an interested supporter. So, so invested, you know, morally as well. Yeah, that's, you know, that's a very good question, and I'm glad you've asked it because it is. It is a tough thing to navigate. And you can see how we've, we've worked around it because there's a lot of things that are so vile, so hate driven, so, I mean, just so loopy. It has certainly been the opinion of a lot of us here that it's just. It's not productive to engage with. You're only giving oxygen to a fire. But I think it's also true after two months, clearly, you know, it has not caused them to just go away. There's still, I mean, there's people who are harassing Mikey, there's people harassing other members of our team, and a lot of that's just. Yeah, sorry, what was that, Bernadette?
Bernadette
I just kind of think that they're all children and in order to stop this, you have to say, smack it down for once. It's enough already. Yeah, you can't keep footing around it. You have to say, enough with it. We've explained to you that this is what happened. I don't want to hear these lies anymore. I don't. If you. I don't want to hear you tracing all over whatever Candace is saying or whatever this one's saying. You got to just be firm enough to say enough. We're moving on. This is the way the case is going to go. And you know what? Pray for Charlie and let's get on and try to beat the game, because we have the midterms coming.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, exactly. So I don't want to speak up because I'm not, Erica. I'm not, you know, the senior people at Turning Point. I technically don't have a position in Turning Point. I'm only with the show, so I don't want to speak up for anyone else.
Bernadette
I get that.
Andrew Colvett
And I don't want to. Also, like I said, they have preferred we not give oxygen to really wild, specific claims unless it's, like, absolutely necessary for some reason.
Bernadette
Right.
Andrew Colvett
What I have done is I've tried to. When I talk about it, I talk about it big picture, which is there's clearly just a part of society that finds conspiracy theories really compelling. I was just talking about this morning.
Sean Davis
You put out a good tweet.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, yeah, I said it this morning. I'll just repeat some of it here where you see how these things work. First of all, people get more attached to the idea of some conspiracy existing than any specific narrative. So they can swap in new things. Like, they'll throw out some wild idea, something obviously debunks it, and they just instantly slot in a new thing that is as crazy or even crazier, and they don't really pause to think about it. People love to say, I'm just asking questions. And okay, it's true, you can ask questions about things, but what is often the case is they're not actually that interested in answers. So people ask the question, oh, was he. Was he on the phone when the shooting happened? The answer is no. And okay, they. Then I guess that answer, they. It turns out they weren't terribly interested in an answer to that question.
Bernadette
And then he wasn't on the phone.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, and just a loss. Just a loss of sort of basic thinking. A lot of things. So many things. It's like, even if this was the case, who cares? So, again, to use the one that we've talked about on the show, because I think we've confronted that. Like, if Mikey was on the phone with someone. What? Like he wasn't. Again, he was not. But if he was, like, what? Oh, the conspiracy required that someone be 20ft away from Charlie so they could. They could call it in to say that it's done. Like this thing that was happening in front of hundreds of cameras. It's. It defies rational thought, which shows that so much of this is not happening for rational reasons. And that's why you can't really debunk it. You can Only you can respond to it. But I try. When I respond, I try to just show that we're aware of this. We're not ignoring it. But you also have to recognize it's not really defeatable through rational means. You just have to show. Yeah, like you said, we're focused on what matters, which is winning elections, which is winning young people, which is converting people, pursuing the religious revival, doing the things Charlie cared about. And Charlie would be very distressed if we were just endlessly fighting weird conspiracy theories instead of doing the causes he gave his life for.
Sean Davis
And we do have Mikey on if. Mike, you have anything to say?
Mikey McCoy
Hi, Bernadette.
Sean Davis
How are you?
Charlie Kirk
How are you?
Bernadette
You look wonderful.
Charlie Kirk
Good.
Bernadette
I'm so sorry.
Sean Davis
For those of you guys who do.
Mikey McCoy
Not, thank you, Bernadette, I. Charlie loved you, and I know he was such a. Behind the scenes, Bernadette always would bring a gift to Charlie twice a year at our.
Bernadette
Behind you. There's the football.
Mikey McCoy
There's one behind me, and then there's one in his office, which is the Michael Jordan basketball, which was one of his highlights.
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
So.
Mikey McCoy
Bernadette, you're always such a good friend to Charlie, but I don't want you to feel.
Bernadette
I don't want you to feel hurt by all these horrible things. We know that you have a responsibility. You're a young man, and I just want you to take a deep breath, like I said. And you know what? Let them spin their conspiracy theories. You're a good kid. You had instructions to call Erica. Charlie had a team that jumped right in there. I know that team. And we just got to move on. We got to push the moving on, and let's get to these midterms.
Mikey McCoy
Yeah, that's right. Thank you, Bernadette. I just. It's. It's crazy. It's just. I remember taking the last picture I took of Charlie was at 12:23, right before he was shot. And I just. I took that picture. My phone was already in my hand. I plugged my ears. People thought I was on a phone call. I wasn't, but I did. I, in fact, call Erica momentarily afterwards. But thank you, Bernadette. That's very encouraging to hear from you.
Bernadette
You be encouraged, and you keep going because we need you and we need that team to take a deep breath and get your pants on and get running.
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Mikey McCoy
Thank you, Bernadette. God bless you.
Andrew Colvett
Now, I'm just thinking of the occasional times. Get your pants on. I'm just thinking of the occasional times. Charlie was like a nice shirt with, like, shorts. On. He was. He would occasionally have. Not often. Not often. But it was a thing. Nobody said.
Bernadette
This too shall pass. So get it going, right?
Jonathan Keeperman (Lomas)
Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Yes. Yes. Okay.
Bernadette
God bless you, boys. And you know what? We always got you back.
Andrew Colvett
All right, we have. We have a minute.
Bernadette
Got it. Bye, Mikey.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah. We have 50 seconds till the ad reads. So. Welcome, Mikey. Welcome from the top secret Arizona alternative studio. We have, like three different studios coming.
Mikey McCoy
From an undisclosed location.
Andrew Colvett
Undisclosed.
Mikey McCoy
Did I miss any other questions? Was Bernadette the first one?
Andrew Colvett
That's the first one. We'll have Stephanie up ahead, but we just have 30 seconds here. So I figure we don't want to do that thing where we take the question and then immediately cut away. So we'll just wait till after the break. But yeah, I just want to reaffirm, you know, Mikey, obviously you faced way more attention than I have or anyone else here has the last few weeks. We are all 100% behind you. This is gross, this is dumb. And. But as Bernadette said, this shall pass. But until then, I'm gonna tell you guys about good ranchers. All good ranchers meat is 100% American. It's raised on local farms and it's delivered right to our door. And the quality is truly incredible. You can get a $25 off every box with free shipping and a free gift within every order for life. We've gotten their chicken thighs, their bacon, and their Italian sausage. We love that. You can swap a free meat gift each month to try something new. And if you're worried about committing to a subscription, don't be. You can pause, delay, or cancel if you're busy traveling or, you know, away for a long time. It's super simple and it doesn't lock you in. And with holidays right around the corner, now is the perfect time to start your subscription. This is the kind of gift your friends and family will actually get excited about. Order by December 1st and use the code Kirk to get an extra $100 off your first three orders. That's their best offer ever and you have to order by December 1st to claim that deal. Goodranchers.com get back to the table.
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Andrew Colvett
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Donald Trump
It's the CHARLIE Kirk show.
Andrew Colvett
Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to tell you about a really excellent friend of this show. I think we know it's Y Refi based right here in the Phoenix area. Private student loan debt in the US totals about $300 billion and about 45 billion of that is labeled as distress.
Sean Davis
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Giselle
Prayers are with everybody, Andrew, Erica and the kids. My question was in reference to the J. Jones situation. I obviously saw all the news about the tech scandal because my algorithm allowed it. What do you think the possibility is is that most Democratic voters weren't even aware of the tech scandal.
Sean Davis
I recently I saw a poll On X that said that 83%, they think around 80 to 85 came around. 83% of all voters were aware of the text.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah. I think the truth is I saw, I think a similar poll. It might have been the same one. But the truth is when you ask them, it's that I think only about 45% of people overall said that they thought the texts were disqualifying for him. Presumably most of them are just Republican voters anyway.
Sean Davis
The local Democrat party, 47% of them think that threatening to kill your opponent's children is not disqualifying.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah. So a lot thought it thought of. Some said it was concerning, but not disqualifying. Some said it had no impact at all. And like a few were unaware of it. But you know, if you, if you're bothering to turn out these are lower turnout races, it's off year entirely. So lower turnout. There's also just more focus on them because no one's distracted by the presidency or the Senate or all of those. We managed to make a state AG race a national thing. A lot of people did hear about it. But the truth is we have highly polarized politics and a lot of people have taken away the lesson of the last few years that the way you get through any scandal, no matter how bad is you apologize for nothing and you just move straight ahead. We're not even a decade removed from. The governor of Virginia was caught wearing blackface in his. In the school yearbook and he just obviously lied and said it wasn't me. And then I think he backtracked. I can't really remember. But the point is he didn't resign, didn't give in. Just played out his whole term and in the end they couldn't remove him. And I think that's what Democrats realized they could do here, that there was no point in being ashamed of it. There was no advantage to being ashamed of it. So just knuckle under, move ahead and say Republicans are worse. It doesn't matter if we have an ag who, you know, really people are emphasizing the text, but it's so many other things.
Mikey McCoy
He drove.
Andrew Colvett
What Was that, like 100, 120 or something?
Sean Davis
Yeah, they got out of community really.
Andrew Colvett
Bad speeding and then he got out of the community service in a scam way that's actually shadier than this. Like you have to have.
Sean Davis
He tried to kick a dog.
Andrew Colvett
I'm not a believer in dog gate, to be honest. That was, it was funny.
Mikey McCoy
I would also just add to this that we need to also be asking how Many Republicans knew about these text messages because what he was saying is super dangerous, which is only when people feel pain, personally, do they act on policy. So, Republicans, this needs to be a warning to us that the left is not only moving towards further radicalization, but they're also going to use their political power for you to act on policy by you feeling pain. And so Democrats, a lot of them, knew about this and still voted for him anyways. But how many Republicans know about this story? And the answer is not that many. And we need to blast it out to everyone, especially going into the midterms, that we cannot allow candidates like this to get elected. But also, this should be a warning sign to the trajectory of where the left is headed, I guess.
Giselle
Yeah, I guess a small, naive part of me was really hoping that people wouldn't really still vote for someone if they were aware.
Andrew Colvett
Unfortunately.
Mikey McCoy
Yeah, that's what we all.
Andrew Colvett
We're in a different country now, and people will vote for a lot of very dark things, and people should be aware of that, because now we have an AG in Virginia who wants your children to die. That is the reality we are in. Thank you for your question. Stephanie, let's go. David is our next caller. Unmute yourself, David. And what's your question?
Donald Trump
My question kind of piggybacks off that we're in the communist California and we got shellacked pretty much. We got shellac. So how do we educate our base so that.
Andrew Colvett
So that we're.
Bernadette
Because.
Donald Trump
Because you just talked about that we're in an off year, but we're not. We're not really an off year because it just keeps on going. We only. And President Trump has only been in office for eight months or 10 months.
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Mikey McCoy
Yeah. Charlie used to always say complacency is. Yeah. Is a cancer. And so I feel like a lot of Republicans have a tendency to just kind of sit back and get comfortable, especially after a victory. But we also have this obsession with infighting right now. And I said this last week, but. But when you're infighting all the time, you're showing to the world you have no more enemies to conquer, so you must fight each other. And so I know people who gave a ton of money to Prop 50 in California, and they felt as though it was a waste. I feel like California is gonna rig it no matter what. But when are Republicans gonna start working together, not be complacent, not sit back and get comfortable, but to just work hard time after time, show up to the polling places, show up to vote and actually take action. Not just be comfortable.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah yeah. Let's continue through the break. I want to really dive into this. I think it's a rich vein.
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911.
Donald Trump
Erin Spates with your Real America's Voice news break President Trump meeting at the White House right now with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, the prime minister praising President Trump for his push towards peace. So no question that if that time the name of the United States president would have been Donald Trump, there would.
Bernadette
Be no war between Ukraine and Russia.
Donald Trump
That's clear. But what we are speaking about here.
Andrew Colvett
Is more than that because without the.
Donald Trump
Pressure coming from the United States government, I'm speaking 2022, the Europeans would not take that hard line. What they have today on the war. And on the other side of Washington, D.C. senate Republicans hoping their Democrat colleagues will come to their senses and vote to reopen the government potentially even as soon as today. Senate Democrats met behind closed doors on Thursday to discuss a deal for short term agreement that would allow Congress to address full year appropriations bills. By the way, the current shutdown is now in its 38th day, marking the longest government shutdown in US history. On this day, the Trump administration is also under a federal judge's order to fully fund SNAP benefits by today. That's a quick check.
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Andrew Colvett
Welcome back to radio. And before we get to our next question, we've got Hillsdale College, Charlie's favorite history, economics, the great works of literature. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, you might need an enjoyable refresher. Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses, including their newest course on totalitarian novels. In this free eight lecture course, you can learn from Hillsdale College President Larry Arne as he goes in depth on four novels. 1984, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon and that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels were written in the 1930s and 40s, I should say especially because they were written in the 1930s and 40s, they are highly relevant today as they show what a tyrannical government does to human nature. More importantly, they also show us that faith, family and friends are worth fighting for. Maybe you read those books long ago in school. Maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem a little intimidating. Let Hillsdale College help you make the most of them. Go right now to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll. There is no cost and it's easy to get started. That's charleyforhillsdale.com to register. C H-A R L I E for hillsdale.com. give it a look. All right, so our next question is. Let's go to Brandon. Brandon, unmute yourself. And what's your question? Hey, guys, I was just wondering what was Charlie's favorite book that he wrote. I feel like the flip answer would be the next one, but Mikey might have a more true answer. But I feel like Charlie was always looking forward, so he was always talking about. He was so excited writing the Sabbath book, Stop in the Name of God. I feel like the one we'd end up referencing the most probably was the college scam. Just in the sense that was a very timeless topic. Whereas right wing revolution and maga doctrine were more embedded in a specific moment. But college scam comes up again and again. College is only more of a scam by the day, other than Hillsdale, of course. And so I would. Those are the two answers I'd think of. But Mikey, what'd you say?
Mikey McCoy
Yeah, he loved all the books that he wrote, and he spent a lot of time on each one of them. And so each one of them are very special in their own unique way. Also, you just kind of get to see every aspect of his life as you get to read these books. When he was in his era of really pushing the college scam, he always pushed it, but that was when he was just obsessed with it. And then you can kind of see where his mind was at, where his headspace was at. Then you Right Wing Revolution, America's Turning Point. There's all these books that he wrote, but I personally, I feel as though one of his absolute favorites was his newest one that's coming out, which is Stop in the Name of God. And he was just so spiritually invested in that book. He was so obsessed with the book, the amount of time that he spent on it, talking with people that could give him knowledge and wisdom. And he wanted to just understand, he wanted to get it right. Because he used to always say that Shabbat is a gift and you just need to receive the gift. And your punishment for missing the Sabbath, Shabbat is that you missed the Sabbath. It turns out that the punishment was in fact missing the Sabbath because it was such a gift in his life and he wanted to just share that with the world, that he would just stop one day a week and be with his kids and his wife. And that time was dedicated to them. But he was so spiritually invested in this book, and it was really amazing and beautiful to be alongside him as he wrote this and went deep on this book and just really dived in. But he finalized the book probably the week before he was murdered. And he was so happy with it. And it's just an amazing book. I can't wait for the world to see it. To read it. I just was looking at the copy literally today and was just in awe of what he was able to accomplish with this beautiful book.
Andrew Colvett
Do you guys know when that one's.
Charlie Kirk
Coming out or.
Mikey McCoy
It should be coming out? Just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At the beginning of this next year, I believe is when it's coming out. But pre order sales are actually available right now and I know it's finalized and ready to go. I was looking at a copy today, but you're going to really enjoy it. Thank you so much for that question.
Andrew Colvett
All right, our next guy, we have Jimmy. Jimmy, unmute yourself and what's your question? Yeah, thanks everyone. Appreciate all you guys do. So the question is wrapped around, you know, Trump had amazing win, of course.
Mikey McCoy
Charlie Kirk, I loved everything he did.
Andrew Colvett
To help do that with you and.
Mikey McCoy
The team as well.
Andrew Colvett
And so he won the popular vote. He won.
Mikey McCoy
He just won so much. So we're trying to get through his agenda. His agenda seems to be, for many.
Andrew Colvett
Reasons to be slowed down. There seems to be slowdown everywhere you look.
Mikey McCoy
So he's come up with this, especially.
Andrew Colvett
During the time of the government shutdown. He's proposing a strategy to use shut down or stop the filibuster, which apparently is some kind of Senate role that's used to slow down legislation and it's not in the Constitution. So I was wondering what your thoughts.
Mikey McCoy
Are regarding that strategy. I know that some GOP senators are.
Andrew Colvett
For it, some are against it, but just trying to get, you know, your thoughts about it as well. Yeah, I'm happy to weigh in on this. I have weighed on in on it in a few other shows. So I'll actually, I'll throw it to Danny and Mikey to see how you guys feel it as younger voices, how you feel about Senate institutional reform, if you have anything to say. Otherwise, I can revisit what I've said the last few days.
Sean Davis
I mean, I get, I mean, I hear it from both sides, but from my point of view, from what I've seen, I think it's probably, it's dangerous because I don't like the idea of giving the Democrats in the future the possibility of just running wild with whatever radical ideas they want, especially with recent elections, they could gain back power pretty quickly here. And so I think there's definitely we should be careful about doing it. And so there's some aspects that I'm kind of worried about if we do go through with it.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Mikey McCoy
Mikey, Mikey Blake, I'll let you take it. I will just say this. Gen Z As a whole, I'm a little worried that, as you know, I don't think they necessarily care about things like this. That's possible to find the right. Yeah, they need to find the right way to message this to you.
Andrew Colvett
It is very true. Especially young people. They care about results like they. They care who is delivering, who is making their lives better. And they're not going to be sold on an excuse like, oh, well, this Senate practice that goes back decades. They don't care about that.
Mikey McCoy
That's great.
Andrew Colvett
What I will say also, though, is if you are going. I've said this consistently, they can delete the filibuster if they have a plan for how to maximize its effectiveness that they can deliver on. So if you get rid of the filibuster and all you do is reopen the government and maybe. And reopen the government and he said pass national voter ID law, I think I support. I 100% support doing that. But I think if that's all you got from it, that would be a huge waste of getting rid of the filibuster. And now you've made it just even that little bit easier for the Democrats to go totally off the chain the next time they hold power, which they likely will someday.
Sean Davis
Yeah. And if we know anything about Republicans, we're definitely very organized all together and have many plans.
Andrew Colvett
Exactly, exactly. Because you'd only have a year, you possibly only have 12 months until you have. And then, you know, and plus the lame doc, period, you have basically 14 months before you have possibly losing the Senate, possibly losing the House. And then in that span, you could pass a lot of legislation if you had a majority ready to go. You could change America's immigration laws. You. So no more asylum seeker nonsense. You know, cut back on legal immigration, get rid of the diversity lottery. You make deportations way easier. You roll back all these, like, weird legal exploits they've developed over the decades. You could reform regulatory laws, reform environmental laws so we can build those houses that we wanted. You could blow up the student loan system, say, we're not giving endless money universities anymore. And you could parrot, like, we're not funneling endless money universities. Also, we're going to forgive a lot of outstanding student loan debt. That's the way to do it. Not just the way Biden did, where he just snaps his fingers and makes it go away and turns the money spigot on forever. There's so many things you could do when you get rid of the filibuster, but we have a lot of bad Senators in the Republican Party. Too many. It's unfortunately the case. We're trying to make it better. They've gotten a lot better. This is a much better Senate now than we had in 2017, but it's not a perfect Senate. It's not an entirely on message Senate. And so I've just tried to warn people if we get rid of the filibuster, we could get very disappointing results with the current Senate we have. And, yes, are the Democrats likely to get rid of it the next time they have power? Yes. But even if they have to spend a few weeks getting their ducks in a row to do it, that is a few weeks fewer before they're actually able to do it. And it makes it feel more transgressive when they do it. If we get rid of the filibuster, we own getting rid of the filibuster. And Democrats can claim with far less shame than they would otherwise. Oh, we're just doing what Republicans let us do. You always have to think, what is the next order of business when you take an action in politics? And I try to make sure people remember that on the filibuster question. But if we're ready to take it, if we. If we have the agenda in place, then by all means, full steam ahead. Tom, is our next question. Tom, unmute yourself and what's your question?
Donald Trump
Hey, guys. So you're doing such a great job. I miss Charlie greatly, but you, you really are stepping into the role. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So, listen, I'm a senior member of Generation X, and by two days, so don't get me started on the boomers. Not my favorite, but I'll just leave that there and, and ask this question.
Sean Davis
How.
Donald Trump
How do I and other Generation Xers help the courageous generation step into their role right now? Like, what could we do? How could we encourage? How could we connect?
Mikey McCoy
Yeah, that's an amazing question. And Gen X and boomers, too. Here's the thing. The suspicious people that are suspicious of you are the ones you want to win over because they're guarding their loyalty to you. Once you win someone who's suspicious of you over, they're beyond loyal to you. And boomers, they love their generation. They want to make sure that their generation is good. And I just think that's very honorable of them.
Andrew Colvett
And.
Mikey McCoy
And I just. Gen X and Boomers, the best way you guys can help us is just know we need help. And you guys, you've been through life, you've experienced the ups and the Downs and the tragedies and the hardships. And we need your help. And, and Gen Z and young people in general, we need your help. And so two, three weeks ago, I spoke at Liberty. Erica was supposed to speak there and she, she couldn't travel. She asked me to go fill in for her. So I traveled and went and spoke at Liberty. And that was my speech. Is that they are the courageous generation. That is what Erica labeled them as, is the courageous generation. They have a lot of courage, but they feel a little bit hopeless. And courage without hope leads to recklessness. And so they're a little reckless. They don't know where to turn. They need help. That's why you see young people turning to radical ideas as the solution to their problems with Mamdani and other radical candidates. And we just need help. Be there for us. Oftentimes people will just kind of tell the younger generation, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, figure it out. But we are courageous. Help us. Help us find our way. And there's nothing that will stop this courageous generation of young people as Erica called us to change America. Our hero was Charlie Kirk. We are fired up. We love Charlie and our hero is gone. And we want to put our courage in something. So thank you. So what an incredible question. Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you.
Donald Trump
Thank you. What a great answer. That, that gives me encouragement and hope because I know this generation is going to fulfill what God has for them. But I just want to be that cheerleader, the catalyst, the. The people that come alongside. Really.
Andrew Colvett
Thank you very much. We're going to the break here, but thank you a lot.
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Andrew Colvett
Yourself a better person, which Charlie tried to do.
Bernadette
So.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, well, let's rattle off the list of books that we had. This is just. He said none of us is perfect and this is just a starting off point. And you don't need to read all of this. This is sort of just some quick hits. Let's start actually with the philosophy, politics, economics list. He had. He had the Republic by Plato. He had the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. I know that was a big favorite of his. The City of God by St. Augustine. The imitation of Christ by Thomas A. Kempis. I definitely recommended that one. That's a very medieval one. The Federalist Papers by Founding Fathers Madison, Hamilton and jay. Orthodoxy by G.K. chesterton. Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl. A big favorite of Charlie's. Abolition of man, C.S. lewis. The Fatal the Errors of Socialism by F.A. hayek as well as the Road to Serfdom. He would like that too. The True Believer by Eric Hoffer. Collected Essays by George Orwell. Capitalism and Freedom by Milton. Freedom and Genius. A mosaic of 100 exemplary creative minds by Harold Bloom. That might have been another one that I recommend he include. We also have some good history works. We had the Civil War Narrative by Shelby Foote. A History of the English Speaking Peoples by Winston Churchill. From dawn to Decadence by Jacques Barzun. Charlie definitely would have only read a summary of that one. That is a very, very long book. The Russian Revolution by Richard Pipes. A Chronicle of the French Revolution by Simon Sciamma. I've read that. That is one of my favorites. And we have some great literature here too. The Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer. The Divine Comedy by Dante. The Complete Works of William Shakespeare. Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky. Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. We need books for women here too. That's an all time classic. 1984 by George Orwell. The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene. That's a great Christian novel. Scoop by Evelyn Waugh. That is one of my favorites. It has the important lesson that journalists have always been pretty awful, but it's a good lesson to have and it's very funny. The Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolfe. That is an incredible one and it teaches you that everything we worry about today was happening decades ago as well. We're running out of time before the radio rejoin here, but you can. I had to skip over a few of them, but you can see the Full list if you check out Right Wing Revolution. There's a lot in that book. And we'll be back in just a few seconds with our next question. Welcome back. Final segment of the AMA hour always races by. Let's just plow right in to make sure we're able to answer it. Giselle, Giselle, unmute yourself. And what is your question?
Erica Kirk
Hi, there.
Giselle
Can you hear me okay?
Andrew Colvett
Yes, we can.
Giselle
Thank you so much for taking my call. I'm just so sorry for your loss. I've been praying for your families, for tpusa, for Eric and the children just daily since he's been murdered. I never had the privilege to meet Charlie myself, but even so, I felt like I lost like a beloved, like, younger brother. He was. He was a decade younger than me, but world wiser than I was at 31 or younger.
Andrew Colvett
Thank you. Thank you so much. We've heard so much of that from. From people. He really touched them like that. And it means a lot to hear from that from people like you.
Giselle
Oh, thank you. And I've been listening to your show off and on pretty much since. Not since it started, but like around election day of 2020, so a good long while. And you know, when you hear someone's voice that many times in your head, you. You know, you do feel like you know them almost even though you don't in real life. So your show is just. I'm so grateful for you guys keeping it going. And thank you. And the thing I wanted to share though, too, is that my. My husband and hare, we have a new little baby daughter who's just. Just turned.
Andrew Colvett
Almost.
Giselle
Just turned a year old just last week. And we. We were older. We're a little bit older. Like I said, we're in our 40s. And we were. We've been married a long time, but we were very happy being dinks, you know, focusing on our careers. And we actually finally gave our lives over to Christ in 2023. And later on that year, we actually heard one of Charlie's sermons that he gave as an episode of your show. I think it was in a church in North Dakota. And he talked about how children in a marriage is like God's perfect design in most cases. And it kind of got us off the fence, like, on that topic. And, you know, I really do believe that God used, you know, Charlie to get that message out to us. And, you know, we kind of took their taking that a lot more seriously. And, you know, last year, you know, we were blessed to give birth to our. I was Blessed to give birth to our beautiful daughter. And I really don't know if I would have. We would have done it before it was too late if it wouldn't be for that message. So, you know, I hope you'll know that he had such a huge influence.
Andrew Colvett
That's so. That is so beautiful. I'm in. I'm so happy you called. I'm so happy we got that wow story.
Giselle
Yeah, I've been thinking about that all the time ever since his passing. I mean, it's just been such a. He was such a huge influence. Even though people a little bit older than him, like me and my husband, we're Both in our 40s, like I said, so he was such a huge inspiration to us. And I was also just wanted to ask if, you know, I would. I was wondering if you're. If either the Charlie Kirk show or the Turning Point Store might ever consider selling, like, onesies or baby clothes, because we'd love to support that. I know they. I know they're knockoffs, but I'd love to support the actual one if you ever consider selling those. Maybe.
Andrew Colvett
That is an easy question to answer. Daisy has informed me. Or Mikey. You want that? You want that, Mikey? Go ahead, Mikey.
Mikey McCoy
No, go ahead. Okay.
Andrew Colvett
She says shout out proclaim365.com that is. It was Erica's DailyWick before she was put into her new, bigger position. That was. That includes baby clothes, Baby blankets with Bible verses and other Christian content on them. I'm told the blankets are currently sold out. They are locally sourced and made in the usa. So you. You have slightly more complicated supply lines, but you can get them there. And. But I just. That is so. Such a beautiful story. I'm so glad you called, Giselle. I'm so happy to hear about the baby.
Giselle
Thank you all so much.
Mikey McCoy
Charlie, you know, we sell baby clothes on the Turning Point USA store as well, by the way.
Andrew Colvett
Okay. Excellent.
Mikey McCoy
I believe we do. Excellent.
Andrew Colvett
And just thank you all so much.
Giselle
And thank you for all you're doing to keep this everything going. And we'll always keep you in your prayers and we definitely, definitely have your back. Thank you so much.
Andrew Colvett
Thank you. Thank you. I think of that line, you know, he who saves one world, saves the entire world. I think it's a Jewish proverb, but it's kind of, you know. Yeah. A life exists because of Charlie's witness.
Donald Trump
Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
And that's a life of infinite importance to God, of infinite importance to their family. And it's a life that, were it not for Charlie, would not be here and. Yeah, man, that's. That's incredible. Oh, man. Oh. We have one last question. I'm just going to read it because I'm worried we won't have time otherwise. It's Christine, and she says C.S. lewis or Tolkien. And while we're at it, Tozer or Jonathan Edwards. That's tough. I think I've got to go with CS Lewis. I read Lord of the Rings. I read Lord of the Rings for the first time, surprisingly late last year, and I liked it, but it did not have the same impact on me that Reading Lewis did when I was a younger person. And I think he had a bigger, broader breadth of how he wrote. I am not qualified to answer the Tozer or Jonathan Edwards question. Are you qualified, Mikey? You're the pastor's kid.
Mikey McCoy
I'm not overly qualified, but CS Lewis is my answer.
Andrew Colvett
But what about Tozer or Jonathan Edwards? Are you a sinner in the hand of an angry God?
Mikey McCoy
I think we should make also a list of authors that Charlie liked.
Andrew Colvett
I think that's a good idea. Not. We should just have it as like on an FAQ on our website. Thank you, Christine. Thank you, Giselle. Thank you, everyone who called. We love these questions, we love answering them, and we look forward to having them next week. Have a great weekend. This is an I Heart podcast.
Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: November 7, 2025
This emotionally charged episode marks a pivotal moment for The Charlie Kirk Show and its community. Still grappling with the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, the conversation centers on moving forward, carrying out his vision, and the strength and faith of Erica Kirk, who has stepped up in his stead. The panel—hosted by executive producer Andrew Colvett alongside Erica Kirk, Sean Davis (The Federalist), Jonathan Keeperman aka “Lomas,” and Blake Neff—discusses the direction of the movement, current American challenges (political, cultural, and spiritual), the recent election, resilience against mainstream narratives, and answers direct listener questions in an “Ask Us Anything” format.
[03:24] Charlie’s Leadership Style
“It's not how I'm saying it that's upsetting people. It's the fact that I'm saying the truth that's upsetting people. And that's what the truth does.” —Erica Kirk
[03:53] Faith and Forgiveness in Grief
[11:13] Erica’s Strength Observed
“There's no way any human on their own power could handle that grief and that burden. ... There’s no way she does this without the Holy Spirit.”
[12:31] Spiritual Warfare and Staying Over the Mark
“This whole nation feels the spiritual warfare. But Charlie would say that's how you know you're over the mark when you feel it. When the enemy is there, that's how you know you're doing the Lord's work."
[14:14] Charlie’s Unifying Spirit
“It was only in the last couple of months that I came to realize just what a central figure of gravity he was, holding this whole coalition together.”
“From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world during every single day of the Trump administration. I will very simply put America first.”
[09:42] Panel Discusses Erica’s Transition
[15:42] Maintaining Purpose Amid Chaos
“...the obvious loss of Charlie ...then you have, you have the good problems, like how do you manage the outpouring of support? ...you have the follow-ons...the vicious people who try to come at whatever the big topic is...you have to really maintain...composure through difficult periods.”
[19:33–21:58] Psychodrama and Disintegration on the Right
[22:00] Spiritual Framing of the Political Fight
“It’s good vs. evil, period. ... We are going to win because we are behind a God who doesn't lose... Discouragement is just a lack of courage.”
[23:23] Pelosi’s Departure Symbolizes Democrat “Gerontocracy”
“She perfectly represents Gerontocracy...She represents the total political invincibility of the urban Democrat machine. ... She beat the market by about 600%...no one seems to be interested in banning that.”
[25:32] Pelosi’s Vigor Acknowledged (Grudgingly)
“I also have a kind of grudging respect for her because she also represents a kind of administrative vigor and competence... What comes next for the Democrats is far worse.”
[32:50] British WWII Veteran’s Lament: Sacrifice Not Worth the Result
“What we fought for was our freedom. We find that even now is downside worse than what it was when I fought for it.”
[Key Panel Reaction]
[36:57] Case Study: Ethnic Politics in Minneapolis
[39:39] Muslim Demographics and Political Assertiveness in the West
“...they come here because it is better. But that does not mean...they aspire to the culture that made it better...They remain quite clannish in the Minneapolis area...They have every reason to feel like they are winning and taking over. Why would they assimilate to a sinking ship?”
[42:27] Panel Challenges Assimilation Narrative
“So many layers of like, feminine social engagement going on there. ... Sydney just, like, effortlessly shooting it down...”
“It's a resentment against the beautiful and good. We must protect Sydney Sweeney at all costs.”
Handling Rumors, Conspiracies, and Infighting ([54:59])
Voter Awareness and Scandal (J Jones Race) ([67:07])
Conservative Complacency and Infighting in Elections ([71:00])
“When you're infighting all the time, you're showing to the world you have no more enemies to conquer, so you must fight each other. ... Not just be comfortable.”
Favorite Charlie Kirk Book and Personal Impact ([77:22], [93:12])
Intergenerational Support for Young Conservatives ([86:38])
“Gen X and Boomers, the best way you guys can help us is just know we need help...We need your help...They have a lot of courage, but they feel a little bit hopeless. And courage without hope leads to recklessness.”
Testimonies of Charlie’s Influence ([93:12])
“We actually finally gave our lives over to Christ in 2023. ...We heard one of Charlie’s sermons ...It kind of got us off the fence on [having children]. ...A life exists because of Charlie’s witness.”
Favorite Authors, C.S. Lewis or Tolkien? ([96:58])
“I’ve got to go with CS Lewis. ... He had a bigger, broader breadth of how he wrote.”
The episode bridges grief and resolve, celebrating Charlie Kirk’s impact while firmly shifting the mantle to Erica Kirk and the broader movement. Voices of faith, unity, and purposeful activism dominate the conversation, with hope for the future—despite “spiritual warfare” and daunting challenges—flowing throughout. The host and panel stress resisting both external decline and internal infighting, keeping Charlie’s “mission to save Western civilization” alive through truth, faith, and action.
For more resources, book recommendations, and ongoing support, listeners are encouraged to visit charliekirk.com and affiliated sites.