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What difference at this point does it make?
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Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now. Wherever you get your podcasts, the Charlie Kirk show starts now. Everyone thought I was going to be brutal. In fact, I remember Hillary Clinton during a debate, she said, he's got a personality. It's all about war.
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No.
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And my personality actually is all about stopping wars. And it seems to work.
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It's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. We may be heading towards the next.
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World war because we have a president.
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That wants to pal around with Putin. It is very well known that Donald.
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Trump is weak and wrong on national.
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Security and foreign Policy.
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This guy is a viable candidate. We are talking about someone that literally may start World War Three. Donald Trump has said it. You know, he terrifies me as he has talked in the past about nuclear war being winnable. He thinks the tariffs and you think that's terrifying. Look what he talks about. And if he says it, he plans on doing it. I intend to be a partner in this effort in the sense that we're going to help and we're going to do something that became unbelievably popular. Everybody wants to be on it. It's called the Board of Peace. We don't know if it will be the first chapter of a longer story of peace for the Middle East. The president's trying to frame it that way. We simply. We simply don't know. It's terrific day for the hostage families. It's a terrific day for President Trump. We should make no mistake about this. This is a victory for President Trump. There is no doubt that he has done more than practically, almost any administration has tried to do when it comes to ending conflicts around the world. His willingness to do so is obviously something that shouldn't be ignored and something that should be, dare I say, applauded to some degree. And you have to give credit where credit is.
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We are covering a historic moment here in Israel because for the first time in two years, over two years, 738 days, Hamas holds no living hostages in its captivity. For the first time, generations from now.
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This will be remembered as the moment that everything began to change and change very much for the better. Like the USA right now. It will be the golden age of Israel and the golden age of the Middle East.
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Donald Trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. They're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds, and outright lies. This is not someone who should ever.
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Have the nuclear codes.
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There was this banner that was displayed on the beach in Tel Aviv, a giant thank you.
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Just to kind of speak to the.
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Moment, Sarah, of what kind of Israel is bracing for right now as the president is expected to be here.
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He's only going to be here for.
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Less than five hours on the ground in Jerusalem, but he'll be speaking to.
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The members of the Parliament.
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He'll be meeting families of hostages and hostages themselves and partaking in that, as we see him also standing alongside the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Thank you very much. God bless you. God bless the United States of America and God bless the Middle East. Thank you, everybody. Good Luck. Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Some people on the right, you know, they're saying, don't forget about Iraq. How are you reconciling these issues? Well, first, this is the moment that President Trump was elected for. I thank God that we have President Trump in the Oval Office with this high stakes situation. But President Trump, 10 years ago, he went down the golden escalator. And when he announced for the presidency 10 years ago, to this day, he remade the Republican Party on foreign policy. He said no more permanent wars in the Middle East. He criticized the Bush Cheney philosophy of endless quagmires. Albeit, though he is not an isolationist, he is willing to use violent and precise force against our enemies, like taking out Soleimani or dropping the MOAB if and when necessary. President Trump understands his base extraordinarily well. He knows that his base does not want another Iraq. He does not want Libya, does not want a civil war or bedlam where the United States is left carrying the bag. But also, President Trump has been morally clear for a decade. Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. And President Trump has the talent, the expertise to be able to thread that needle. Charlie Kirk. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use, our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, Blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news?
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Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com run a business and not thinking about radio, think again. Because more people are listening to the radio and iHeart today than they were 20 years ago. And only iHeart broadcast radio connects with more Americans than TV, digital, social, any other media, even twice as many teens than TikTok. And that reach means everything. Just think about the universal marketing formula. The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for your business. Radio's here now more than ever. And iheart's leading the way. Think radio can help your business. Think iheart streaming, podcasting and radio. Where the reach is real. Let us show you@iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-8844 iheart one more time. Just call 844-844 iheart and get radio working for you. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
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Leon.
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I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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What difference at this point does it make?
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Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now. Wherever you get your podcasts, every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go.
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All right.
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Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show. We have peace in Gaza and in Israel. It is wonderful day, a day that Charlie Kirk himself would have been extraordinarily pleased by, excited about, and really celebrating in a huge way. And so we are going to be doing that in his stead today. Again, I'm Andrew Colvett. I'm joined by Raheem Kassam from thenationalpulse.com welcome, Raheem. Thank you. You're gonna be with us maybe the whole show. We'll see at least. And of course, Blake Neff, the not so secret weapon of the Charlie Kirk Show. By the way, really great job hosting on Friday. That was amazing. I got to spend some time with my family, and it was Much appreciated. So great job to you and Mikey and Danny. Thank you very much. So we have peace. I was riveted. I was by the TV this morning watching this historic moment come through the television, watching it from afar. Trump addressing the Knesset, Bibi Netanyahu addressing the Knesset. It was, it was a remarkable display, something that I think we actually have unanimity in opinion across both the left and the right and internationally, that Trump was uniquely positioned to bring about the hostages coming home, all 20 living hostages, all men, and we'll get into that in just a second, that have now been returned to their loved ones, their families in Israel. All of Israel is celebrating. They're dancing in the streets. These images are extraordinary that are coming out of the Middle East. And then President Trump had a very remarkable, I would say, speech where he actually called for Bibi to be pardoned, which was not, apparently. That was a complete ad lib. And then he flies to Egypt to work with international leaders in the region to bring about a wider peace to build upon the Abraham Accords. Raheem, first to you. You are our token international representative. Try and boil down the significance of this moment and how big of a win is this for the Trump administration and the world?
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You know, you can't. And by the way, firstly and foremostly, thank you for having me. And happy Columbus Day. I think, as much as it might rankle your Senate Majority Leader, John Thune, who's declared it Native American Day.
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Very interesting tweet on X, but happy.
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Columbus Day to the, to the, to the world, actually. And while we're talking about world affairs.
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And we think about pivotal moments in history, obviously, it's a, it's a historic occasion, important occasion to mark. And it's now another important occasion to mark. I think peace in the Middle east is something that, since we were children, it's kind of become a farce. Right. The notion of it has kind of become a farce. And along comes President Trump. You know, I'm wearing his autograph on my, on my chest today. And along comes Trump. And just, you know, the way he sort of, I call it, he kindly bullies those around him. Right. And he kindly bullies these people who want to fight with each other, who want a war with each other. They always find an excuse to fight in that region. Right. Not just the Palestinians and the Radis, across the whole region. And like you say, uniquely positioned to deliver something that I think for very many years now, a lot of people have thought is completely impossible. Now, I will caveat. It I won't. I don't want to be too much of a Debbie Downer, but like I say, they always find a reason to fight. And so, you know, the idea of a lasting peace rather than just a peace is the one that they'll now be wrestling with. You know, how do we actually make this stick? What incentives can we provide both sides to keep this stuff on the table and not return to a. And this is the problem. When you have Hamas, you have a faction that necessarily wants to cause conflict. You know, it's in the Hamas charter, right? The eradication of the state of Israel. And so as long as you have Hamas, the idea of a lasting peace is neither here nor there.
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Well, and there was already reports, Blake, this morning, of some of the, you know, competing warlords within Gaza already killing each other. They have endless internal feuds with each other over who, you know, who controls what. And that's going to be. That's the big, tough thing. A big reason this deal happened is Trump finally got both sides, especially Israel, to agree to a deal that didn't involve Hamas immediately demobilizing. And the belief is. Or he's gambling that they'll be able to hopefully pull this off with this summit they're holding in Egypt, get all the other Arab states to have buy in to help support that this will happen. But that's going to be the big test. Even if it fails, of course, he still ended the conflict for now, and he got the hostages out. So that was a big success. Huge success. And, Blake, you were instrumental, especially as Charlie was gearing up for this find this, this campus tour about the Israel topic. I mean, you guys spent a lot of time working on it together. I mean, I was in those conversations, too, but you were reading the books. You were. You were kind of drilling him, prepping him, putting together talkers. Give us an insight into what this meant to Charlie. It was just. It was. He just cared a great deal about it. He cared about. He cared about peace. He cared about one of the. He always say one of the most important events of his life was when he went to the Holy Land. He was able to visit the places that Christ lived around the Sea of Galilee in Jerusalem. And I think he was very aware of the hazards that could happen. You know, if, as some people would say, if Israel ceased to exist and it became just, you know, was overrun, was destroyed, you might have this fundamentalist Islamic State, they might destroy some of those sites or they might make them very inaccessible for people. I think he found it very important that there be a free, western, non Islamic country in the Holy Land. And he cared a lot about preserving that. I think. You know, I think back to this. And Charlie was really keen on this war coming to an end. I mean, of all the wars, this was the one he wanted to see end the quickest. And I think part of the reason was because of the significance to younger voters. And so I'm gonna play a clip here. That is Charlie actually talking about why President Trump was a man uniquely positioned for this moment and why young people were drawn to his message of peace. So let's go ahead and play cut 58. One of the main reasons we were able to get young people to vote for President Trump so overwhelmingly this last election was a reminder that President Trump is the peace president, that President Trump is able to broker the impossible peace deals. Look what he did the other day between India and Pakistan. Look at what he did in his first term. And so I do believe that President Trump is uniquely positioned here to stand with our allies, to stand on the side of civilization, but also understand that his voters, they want to return to America first, to stand with what is right and just in the world. But we do not want a potential endless quagmire in the Middle East. And I'm confident President Trump will make sure that does not happen. Yeah, I mean, that was the other big thing. He was always very worried that as long as this dragged on, there would be pressure for us to send troops there somehow to get enmeshed in it, to just take on this new Middle Eastern obligation that he was not interested in. We saw that with Iran as well, and we definitely sweat a bit on the Iran one. It was very close to the brink. But he ended up. He concluded it, in a way, dropped one bomb and then no couple bombs. Well, like 14. Yeah, something like that. But then no other, you know, no other casualties, no real retaliation from Iran. He threaded that needle. And we were saying, as this was building up, that Trump has gained some credibility in his ability to thread these needles in the Middle East. Yeah, well, so we've got Thailand, Cambodia, Israel and Iran, which was a separate Israel conflict. Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, India and Pakistan, Serbia and Kosovo, Egypt and Ethiopia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Israel and Hamas. And now, if this holds, this is really, so far, the crown jewel of all of those, wouldn't you say? Because there's no getting around it. There is an added significance to the state of Israel. We all know it. We all live in this reality where the Internet is fixated on it. Both those who are pro and against. And this hopefully my hope, Rahim, is that this would, this would pull some of that pressure out of that conversation. We'll see.
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Yeah. And I think, you know, there's obviously political and like you say, that the sort of online focus, everything, everything in my feed is Israel nowadays. Just constant, constant. But it's also a massive historical thing, right? Like you can't really, you know, Thailand and Cambodia, sure love them, glad they're at peace. But this is reflective of something wider. This is when a man puts his shoulders to the wheel on something and achieves what nobody else possibly could have. Right? You think about the characters, the figures that have been involved in the so called peace process over the last several decades, right? The Tony Blairs and the Rabin's, you know, everybody who's been lauded, Nobel Prize, prized, you name it. And it takes brash Mr. Trump from Brooklyn or Queens to come along and just, and just, you know, find a deal.
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All right, we're going to continue. Just a second. But before we keep going with Raheem Kassam, the National Pulse and Blake Neff, we're going to tell you about Alan Jackson. We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries. And today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Culture and Christianity, the Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is that Pastor Alan, he brings biblical perspectives into issues that we are dealing with in our everyday lives. So gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge. He discusses all of that and then he brings in the Bible to explain how you can be part of the solution. We can make a difference. And his guests will also bring practical advice and expertise and powerful testimony. Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact the world. World. The Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging. So go to Alan Jackson ministries@AlanJackson.com Charlie to check it out. That's AlanJackson.com Charlie. We'll be right back. The U.S. electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use, our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news?
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What difference at this point does it make?
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Yeah, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week, we do our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide. We have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now. Wherever you get your podcasts, stop watching the news and start making some the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to tell you about why refi private student loan debt in the US totals around $300 billion. And 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. Our friends at Y Refi are not only going to help you with that if that's you, but they are amazing, amazing patriots who have stood by this show that stood by Turning Point in some of our darkest days. And I will personally never forget what they have done for the show, what they've done for Turning Point. And so you guys should trust them if this is your problem. If you have private student loan debt, get your mom and dad off the loan. They will work with you even if you have bad credit. They'll even let you skip payments. What is it? You can skip a payment every six months up to 12 times without penalty. Just give them a call. I'm telling you, this is they are good people. You're not going to be calling some call center. You're going to be talking to somebody that's going to make a plan custom for you. Really, really important. Call 888-yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com that's yrefy.com yrefy.com all right, so in the next segment, we're going to welcome back radio in about 10 seconds here, Raheem, we're going to put play some of these clips from what I think is going to go down as one of the most important speeches of President Trump's tenure as president either term. So we're going to play some clips in about two seconds.
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All right.
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Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, Andrew Colvett, executive and producer of the show, with Rahim Kassam from the National Pulse and Blake Neff, our not so secret weapon resident genius. Here we go. So I'm going to start with cut 44. This is President Trump addressing the Knesset talking about the historical importance of this moment. Cut. 44 generations from now, this will be remembered as the moment that everything began to change and change very much for the better, like the USA right now. It will be the golden age of Israel and the golden age of the Middle east generations from now. I have to say that was exactly what I was thinking as I was like, you are watching history. And the fact that he seemed to sum that up in one powerful clip, I think was really good. Should we play the person getting kicked out? Oh, this was. I love this. Let's do 43 Knesset member, please expel this Knesset member, please expel him immediately. Sorry for that, Mr. President. That was very efficient. Very efficient, Very efficient. So I actually have a question for the audience. I want to know which members of the U.S. house of Representatives you would most like to see. Be Very efficiently escorted out of the chamber. Most who most Would you like to see escorted? That. I think the Israelis have a. Have a point here. I think they could teach us a thing or two. I know. So email us freedomarliekirk.com and tell us who you'd like to see escorted out most quickly. So wait, can I. Yeah, go ahead.
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Can we have a say in this as well? Yeah, I would love to prefer an opinion on that. Well, today it would be John Thune for me.
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Oh, yeah, he's in the center. I kept it to the House of Representatives for a particular reason, but no, let's expand it to the Senate.
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But I think, I think the most entertaining one would probably be Jasmine Crockett, you know, because she'd go off. She would do the whole thing about it. You know, her nails would be getting everywhere.
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We have a good Jasmine Croquette clip or two, I think. Actually, let's do. Let's just do clip 50. This is from February because we have.
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A president that wants to pal around.
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With Putin and wants to do everything.
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To make him feel good, including lying about who invaded.
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Who.
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Did we miss? I think she said World War III in there. Yeah, there's something like that. I mean, we have plenty of these clips. I mean, this is one of the sweet ironies of this, right? Is you've got. There's so many like this. I could play a bunch. Let's, for example, this is. We have a whole section on our clip sheet that's libs claiming that Trump was going to start World War Three. Let's go ahead and play cut 55 from the debate. It is very well known that Donald.
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Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
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Oh, it's very well known. It's just such a good bit.
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Many people are saying.
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Many. That's her version of.
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Many people are saying, I know she did the thing.
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It's very well known.
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But you know what, Just to interject a little bit on the vastness of this, you know, if this was Bill Clinton or even George Bush, certainly Barack Obama, the streets of Washington, D.C. today would be lined with people cheering this peace process on. Instead, on my way over here, it's empty, it's silent, there's nothing going on here. The establishment of the city are mortified that he got it done because it proves their worthlessness.
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Well, that's a really good point. And I can tell you, we are in D.C. obviously. Tomorrow would have been Charlie's 32nd birthday. We're in D.C. to. He's going to be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously. He deserved it in life. That and many other accolades that you could imagine. Streets coins like I'm in for. I'm here for all of it. Charlie deserved all of this. He gave his entire being to saving this country. And I just, I'm so honored that the president is rushing back from one of the most monumental Middle east trips that you could imagine in the history of peace talks in the Middle east to honor Charlie. That's what it, what it means. But yeah, I mean, this is, this is a moment where the naysayers and the prognosticators, the elite foreign policy establishment, have all been proven wrong. And it's got to be a bitter pill for them to swallow.
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It's just, I mean, I, I can't wait to see the next editions or if they still exist. A foreign policy magazine and the Atlantic read that stuff, you know, But I'm going to seek them out next issue round. I want to see the coverage of this because in any normal world it would be front cover, beautiful picture of Trump the peacemaker, all of that. And you know, it's not going to be, you know, it's going to be about, you know, they'll try and ignore it. It will be about tampon use in Djibouti or something that will be the front page of the Atlantic magazine next week.
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Well, it's interesting. Blake actually called this out for me, but the New York Times is already complaining. Yeah, of course. So we can get into that. But we will show you some of the subdued reaction from MSM next. Don't go anywhere. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use, our aging infrastructure. Infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news, one solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com run a business and not thinking about radio? Think again. Cause more people are listening to the radio and iHeart today than they were 20 years ago. And only iHeart broadcast radio connects with more Americans than TV, digital, social, any other media. Even twice as many teens than TikTok. And that reach means everything. Just think about the universal marketing formula. The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for Your business radio's here now more than ever. And iheart's leading the way. Think radio can help your business. Think iheart. Streaming, podcasting, and radio where the reach is real. Let us show you@iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844-844. Iheart one more time. Just call 844-844-Iheart and get radio working for you. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad face, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Nefak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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What difference at this point does it make?
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Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts. President Trump in Egypt, meeting with other world leaders, specifically leaders from the Arab world and the Muslim world. Other European leaders there also. They all signed an agreement to move the peace process between Israel and Hamas and just peace in general across the Middle east forward. All of this again part of President Trump's trip to the Middle East. He spent the morning in Israel, where dozens of Israeli hostages formerly held by Hamas were released earlier today. The commander in chief is now in Egypt for a peace summit, as you can see, with leaders from Arab and Muslim countries. They're going to have a brief press conference and then they'll meet behind closed doors, separate from the media, as you just heard the president say. Other world leaders from across Europe are also part of the discussion. Discussion. However, neither Israel nor Hamas, who are at the center of the peace agreement, are participating in the talks. Either way, though, Egypt's president actually praised President Trump for his leadership in all of this earlier today. You are the only one who is able to bring about peace and to.
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Achieve peace in this part. I thank you.
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It's a perfect night and what we need to do now is to fixate the ceasefire, make sure that it maintains and sustains that we can deliver all of the remaining the bodies of the deceased to their families.
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And this is very important.
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The so called Gaza Peace Summit that you just saw is being co hosted by Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El Salvador Sisi as well as President Trump. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney along with French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Friedrich Matz along with President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority are among the dozens of leaders expected to be on hand for today's summit and who were there. Iran was invited to participate in the talks but declined to send a representative even though earlier today President Trump said that Iran had released a statement praising the move towards peace across the Middle East. We'll of course continue to cover this for you throughout the day and keep you updated, particularly once President Trump goes back before the microphones. For now, let's get you back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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All right.
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Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show. It is peace in the Middle East. Monday. We're about to continue our conversation. We're gonna do some MSM reaction clips to see how the other side of the aisle is receiving the good news. Many of us. But first I'm going to tell you about my Patriot supply. Many of us are hopeful about the direction of the country, but after years of abuse and mismanagement, things could fall apart at any moment. That's why I and many Americans from all walks of life have taken action to prepare for whatever is coming next. And that starts with having an emergency food supply. Storing food in your home is not only the right thing to do because we're living in crazy times, but it's good for your family, it's good for all of your loved ones. You got to be prepared. Right now. You can get prepared as well with a three month emergency food kit from my Patriot supply. It comes with delicious foods like creamy beef stroganoff, honey wheat bread and mushroom rice pilaf. The entire kit offers over 2,000 calories a day, which is remarkable. And it lasts up to 25 years. Who knows what the country will look like then? But when that day comes, you'll be ready. Go to mypatriotsupply.com Kirk to order your three month emergency food kit at My Patriot Supply. That is my patriotsupply.com Kirk. Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are proudly brought to you in part by my Patriot supply. All right, so let's play some clips here. I want to flag this just because I saw this flit across and it just, it was very revealing about what we've been working with in this conflict. So they're releasing hostages. So to release the Israeli hostages, they also had to release some Palestinian prisoners Hamas wanted back. And so this is, this is. I don't even know what article it's from, but it says, I did confirm these are real people. Hamas will reveal will release alana hell, a 24 year old talented pianist and musician. Israel will release Nabil Abu Hadir, who murdered his own sister for suspecting she was an Israeli agent.
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Oh, gosh.
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Wow. Different cultures. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. So here's where, here's what you know when you know, hell has frozen over. Rahim. This is a actual clip from MSNBC play cut 45. We don't know if it will be the first chapter of a longer story of peace for the Middle East. The President's trying to frame it that way. We simply, we simply don't know. It's a terrific day for the hostage families. It's a terrific day for President Trump. We should make no mistake about this. This is a victory for President Trump. Whoa.
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Stunning.
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Stunning. Stunning. Brave. Actually, they're taking the L on this one a little bit. They are. We mentioned the New York Times. We should flag that one. So I'll talk about this one a bit. Just. So the New York Times, they do have the headline that it's happening, but then they have news analysis on their front page and it's why now the lost chances to reach a hostage deal and a ceasefire months ago, which I feel is gliding over this quite long, you know, roughly 15 month period where someone else was president and could have conceivably. Who would that be? I don't know. New York Times doesn't mention it. We don't know who the president. Who's that? Otto Pen.
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Right.
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Otto Pen. So they're complaining. They say, you know, on Gaza, President Trump put few if any guardrails on Israel's offensive, bucking international demands for A ceasefire. Then he changed course. It's like, how do you find something to complain about? They're complaining about a thing that, that Biden had a substantially longer time to achieve. Did not achieve. Didn't apparently really even come close to achieving Trump. He put a lot of pressure to get the, you know, the temporary one in place right around the inauguration. In fact, that was while Biden was president. But, you know, Witkoff was doing all of that mission stuff in the Middle East. But now, yeah, okay, he went back and forth, he did his deal making shtick. That is how he has done foreign policy all five years he's been in office and it's gotten a lot of wins.
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Does fundamentally go to their misunderstanding of the art of the deal. Right. It's not just a catchphrase. It's actually a very good book. And it's a great tactic that served him well, not just in office, but throughout his whole life. This whole thing. They complain about course change, course change. You're not course changing if you start a negotiation at 100 bucks and you settle somewhere in the middle. That's how he's done everything over the course of his life. It's the. They want to see this weird intransigence, you know, where even when things are going terribly, Afghanistan, the withdrawal, all of that under Biden, right under auto pen. And they have this intransigence, we're going to keep doing it the same way. No matter how badly it was going. This is the way it's done. This is the way foreign policy.
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That's like the UN consensus is how they always do it. Every single world issue. They'll just have this inflexible position on something. They'll have a bunch of People with PhDs in peace studies or something fake like that, and they'll say, like, we just, we need to have, negotiate, we need to have a cease. But like, they'll, they'll just kind of moan about everything. There's no serious effort to broker a deal either way.
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I have to hear two state solution, as if that in and of itself is how you get there. You know, just, I can't stand that. It's, it's, it's bureaucratic, it's intransigent and it's offensive. It's offensive to people who elect these people, who back these people to get things done. And I think the backdrop of what you're seeing on television today is a lot of the people, a lot of people around the world who are still perhaps a little bit tedious in the way that they think are going to look at that and go, oh, my goodness, I was wrong all along.
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Well, you know, Trump is a man of action. And you talk about this negotiation, I think that's a really great way to put it. But here's what happens in a negotiation. You get new details, new information that comes in. And so you pivot, you adjust. And Trump is the best of that. He's not dogmatic. He looks at what's a fair deal, who has the leverage, and let's make a deal based on who has the leverage. Right. So the hostages were a point of leverage, there's no doubt about it. But so were the bombs that were getting dropped on Gaza. Right. So each side had something to win by ending this war. And I think Trump saw that and he threaded the needle. He's got this whole 20 point peace plan that is a long term peace plan. And that's why bringing immediately all of these other partners from the region and the world. By the way I was looking, I was like, macron's trending. Why is he trending? Trump just completely manhandled him. If we want to play that clip, it's probably pretty funny and worthwhile, but it's another Trump Macron handshake. We'll play it for you because it's entertaining. 85, a coat and tie. It's usually a flak jacket and a helmet. So interesting change as we see the president there with the French President Macron in Charmel Sheikh. The leaders of some 35 countries, according to the president, gathering there for a peace summit. Now there is a bro shake. If ever I've looked.
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We won't let go.
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Okay, you let go.
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No, I'm gonna let go.
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All right, there we go. As they assemble for the class photo there, the UAE guy came up and apparently Trump just pointed him. He's like, they got a lot of money, unlimited money. I just love that Macron and Trump just always like, every time, it's like the handshake drama just plays out.
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If you saw the wider clip, by the way, the wide shot of that Macron is actually steadying himself with his back foot. Trump is just standing still and standing upright, and Macron's, like, trying to get traction on the ground.
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I just love it. I just love it, you know? So we are getting some emails, by the way, I'm going to give a shout out to K. Carla. She said my top five House of Representatives that she would like to see escorted very efficiently out of the chamber would be number one aoc Number two, Jasmine Crockett. Number three, Jim Clyburn. Number four, Ilhan Omar. That would be my top one. I'm gonna say number five, Ayanna Pressley. And then Cory Booker in the Senate, Elliot says he wants Jasmine Kratch to be escorted from Blake. This is a family show.
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I don't want to see the Ilhan Omar ejected from the chamber. I want to see her ejected from the country.
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Well, that's fine.
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So there's a different thing. Well, yeah, if it's on the way, I'm with it.
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Yeah. We just. One does not preclude the other.
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Yeah. Okay.
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They're not mutually exclusive. By the way, I'm getting emails about your shirt, your sweater.
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I know, and I'm ashamed to say that I've no. I don't know where it was. Some Instagram ad.
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That's.
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But you know what? I'm very excited because I've ordered a lot of Turning Point swag, and I know that there's been so much and so much demand, but I'm waiting patiently, and I think people should wait patiently because it's worth it.
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Since we're on the topic there, Raheem, I know a lot of you have ordered stuff from the charliekirkstore.com and we thank you for that. Especially, you know, we. It's. It's a huge, I guess, lift as we try and keep everybody employed. And all of those things. It was. Is massive. We are about 60 or 70% of the way through those orders. So you have still not gotten your freedom shirt or whatever it is that you may have ordered. Please bear with us. We. We are pulling out all the stops, and trust me, our team is working on that 24 7. So your. Your shipment will arrive in due time.
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I'm not even just saying this. I have ordered it, and I have also become a monthly donor to Turning Point usa. And I think anybody who can do that should do that. I think it's incumbent upon us to support these people not just because of what they're going through, because actually, what they're creating and what they're doing out there, and it's. It's probably the best. I mean, I think one of the best political causes I've ever seen in my life, certainly the best cause in America right now.
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Well, I should. I probably should give folks a little bit of an update on this, actually. So I, you know, thank you for that and because I agree, of course, but, you know, everybody is fixating on the growth, which, you know, makes a lot of Sense we have, I mean, just incredible growth. I'm trying to find the numbers here right now, but put it this way, before October or September 10th, we had about 900 college campus chapters. We had about 1200 high school chapters. We have now added almost 800 new college chapters, which I didn't even know was possible. But these are. These are probably some of the smaller ones. Things we didn't focus on as much because we already had pretty good saturation within the D1 schools and the big state schools and things like that. But somehow there are these smaller schools, etc. On the high school level. The last number I've gotten that was Wednesday, so I need an update. But we have added over 18, 19 new high school chapters. So we have over. We have more than doubled in a month. How many chapters. And people have to understand, it's not like we make a phone call and you have a chapter. No, you got to get a sponsor at the school. They have to meet with our staff. They have to get trained. We have to. And then there's a process for becoming an RSO registered student organization at these schools. And so it's. It's an involved thing. Our staff is all over the country. They're meeting with these students, they're getting them combined because a lot of these schools had multiple students that applied to start a chapter. So we're putting these teams together. It's a. It's a very involved process starting a chapter, but it is happening rapidly every day, dozens and dozens and dozens more. And in our student network, we have now eclipsed over 800,000 students in our network. That's high school and college students. Before all this happened, we were about 450,000. So we've almost doubled. How many students are sort of widely engaged or involved with us in one shape or form or another? So almost over 800,000. So it's tremendous growth. And by the way, our campus tours, whether that be Glenn Beck, Vivek, Megan Tucker, whoever, you know, Governor Gianforte. There's been no, I guess, you know, limit, it seems, to how many people want to be involved in these. And people. Russell Brand in Oklahoma, we're going to have Savannah Chrisley, and we're talking everything sold out, lines out the door. We can't find big enough arenas. And we have some really fun announcements coming up of some of these new stops. So thank you, Rahim. I know everybody just seems to be so interested in the growth of Turning Point. And it's all a testament to Charlie's life and legacy and the life he lived and the message that he carried with him and obviously the outpouring of love and support. We know that that's all about what Charlie did and what he showed us and taught us. And so we're blessed. So thank you so much. And I know you went to the memorial, too. 30 seconds if you want, you know.
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You know who I think you should have next on one of these tours, by the way?
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Who's that?
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The next prime minister of the United States kingdom.
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That's not a bad idea.
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Nigel Farage.
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We should talk about the. We should talk about that.
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Yeah, yeah. It's a big deal. And listen, I want to talk directly to the audience while I have 10 seconds. Here is we've always complained about things not getting done out there in the country out there to save America. And these guys are doing it. So support them.
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Thanks, man. I really appreciate that. I'm going to tell the audience about some other people that are doing some good work to help save America and that is Patriot Mobile. I always get those two mixed up. Think about it. Every dollar you spend is either supporting your values or working against them. In today's economy, where you spend your money matters. That's why that's how part of how we take our country back. The Patriot Mobile is leading the way as America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. Switch today without sacrificing quality or service, you'll get exceptional nationwide coverage because unlike most budget wireless providers, Patriot Mobile has access to all three major U.S. networks. So you can pick which one you want, which one has the best service in your area. You can even add two numbers on two networks, which is what I do on one phone. So here's the best part. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you're supporting faith, family and freedom. If you believe in our first and second amendment rights to sanctity of life and supporting our veterans, this is where you do it. So right now, go to patriotmobile.com charlie to get a free month of service with promo code. Charlie. That's patriotmobile.com Charlie to get a free month of service. Check it out now. We will be right back with Raheem Kassam in just a second. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use, our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news, one solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always Ready powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com run a business and not thinking about radio. Think again. Because more people are listening to the radio and iHeart today than they were 20 years ago. And only iHeart broadcast radio connects with more Americans than TV, digital, social, any other media, even twice as many teens than TikTok. And that reach means everything. Just think about the universal marketing formula. The number of consumers who hear your message times the response rate equals the results. Now let's get those results growing for your business. Radio's here now more than ever. And iheart's leading the way. Think radio can help your business. Think iheart streaming, podcasting and radio where the reach is real. Let us show you@iheartadvertising.com that's iheartadvertising.com or call 844 844, iheart one more time. Just call 844-844, iheart and get radio working for you. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist called Rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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What difference at this point does it make?
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Yeah, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now. Wherever you get your podcasts speaking the truth, no one else has the guts to say the Charlie Kirk show all right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake, find a good email for us in just a second. But our team is reminding me, it says maybe explain that the proceeds of the Freedom Tee go directly to keep the Charlie Kirk show going. That is true. So a lot of people either want to help Turning Point or they want to help help the show. They are, you know, different sort of entities. We all work in concert, I think it's fair to say, but I guess that is a point of clarification that is worth making. So, yes. Blake, do you have an email? What I have is a lot of emails asking if we replace the set in Charlie's chair. And the answer is no. We are at the RAB studio in Washington D.C. because Charlie is getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom tomorrow. So he'll be here for a few days. Well, rest assured, the chair is fine, the studio is fine. Yeah. No, nothing has been harmed. Nothing has been harmed. Fair enough. Any other emails? Here we go. Let's see here.
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I just keep getting asked by people where I got my shirt from and.
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I, you know, it's terrible. We got another list. We got aoc, Rashida Tlaib. Oh, Thomas Massey. They're mad at the Master. Thomas Massey, number three. That's how it is. Jasmine Crockett, Ilhan Omar. Yes. I love it. All right, welcome to Back National Radio in four seconds. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So Raheem Blake was just telling us in the break that going to keep our Focus International here, and then we're going to bring Liz Wheeler in at the top of the next hour. I'm excited to talk with her, but we're going to keep the Focus International here for one more segment. And apparently reform is surging and according to polling, if an election happened today, how many. How many seats you say it would be if. The current poll estimates that if it was held today, reform would get 388seats. Seats, which would be a gigantic majority. Wow. I mean, that is. The rapid acceleration and adoption of reform within the UK is stunning. I don't know if they're. If how back. How far back in, you know, the UK history you would need to go to find something or, you know, it's actually never happened. Wow.
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Yeah, this is. This is quite new. I mean, you had. You had physios of the Whig Party and things like that, and. And the Labour Party is a relatively new invention for how old the country is, but actually something like this where if people don't know what reform is you know, people know me for a lot of things nowadays. It's Butterworth's, right on the hill. Editor of Breitbart London National Post. But one of the things I did in life was I served as chief of Staff to Nigel Farage for a brief period. And Nigel Farage led the country to leaving the European Union. And he kind of wanted to retire after that and live his life and actually maybe go away and make some money, because he hadn't, you know, he had to give up so much to. To do the Brexit course. But, you know, every time he was out, they kept pulling him back in and he now leads this. I mean, you can't even say insurgent party anymore. It is a dominant party now. They dominate the media side. I mean, tomorrow he's going to court because an illegal migrant on his way into Britain posted a TikTok saying that he was coming to Britain to pop, pop, pop Nigel Farage. And they caught this illegal migrant and he's now on getting sentenced tomorrow and Farage is going to the court to face this guy in person. And it's going to be extraordinary scenes there. But look, we could be very excited about the fact that the Reform Party may well win 350, 400 seats, but they're not quite staffed up enough yet to actually hit the ground running. I don't want it to be a situation like the first Trump term. We're actually getting blocked and rolled by a lot of the deep state and the establishment and all of that. They have to pack the House of Lords, they have to have at least 5,000 people they can deploy across government departments. So, you know, the next election isn't supposed to be until 2029, so we have to be a little bit patient. It's a marathon, not a sprint. But everything is looking better for Britain in the long term.
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I asked this of Dr. James, Oregon, and I'll ask it of you. How do who's phenomenal? He's been on the show, Charlie interviewed him, actually. You want to know an irony? I don't know if it's an irony, but it's. It's noteworthy is that Dr. James Orr and Charlie, their interview was the last thing that played oh, wow. On the Charlie Kirk Show. Oh, wow. Yeah. Before everything changed.
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Yeah.
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But anyways, Dr. James Orr, he's an intellectual leader, I would say, of the Reform UK movement. I was asking him this question, so I'll ask it to you. What else could possibly trigger an election? Well, do we have to wait for 2029? That seems like probably not.
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Most Parliaments recently don't actually run their full term. There are always internal physios. There was in the Tory party, they had leadership election upon leadership election. People will remember that at one point, ahead of letters was Prime Minister. Oh, no, sorry, that was Liz Truss. But the Labour Party may well eat itself. Right. They may well go to internal war. There has to. For the Parliament to dissolve. They have to pass legislation to dissolve it and they're the majority in Parliament, so it'd be sort of like Turkey's voting for Christmas. But it may get that bad. Now, the only other thing that you could possibly happen is the situation in the country gets terrible enough where the monarch actually instructs the Prime Minister to dissolve the problem. It did happen during the Brexit process. The Queen basically said, look, you can't govern, you have to go back to the country. We call it going to the country and asking for their permission to govern in a different way. It could. But will it be Charles doing that? You know, King Charles is not my cup of tea.
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He really likes Muslims and look, God.
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Bless him, he's not very well, you know.
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Yeah, he's got cancer. Yeah.
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I mean, it's pretty bad. So who knows who's going to be the monarch in one or two years even.
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My goodness, I hadn't. I genuinely hadn't thought of that.
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Yeah, it's pretty bad.
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So it'd be his son.
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Yeah, it'd be Prince William.
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Yeah, Prince William. If that happens, you know, that would. That would. I mean. Go ahead, Blake. I was just thinking, it's really remarkable, you know. So in that poll, that shows Reform getting a big majority, it shows the Conservative Party down in sixth place. And that would be. The British Conservative Party is the most successful political party in world history, basically. They've been running England most of the time for 300 years, basically. And they basically blew it up because they decided to stake everything on infinite immigration and globalism when their own voters didn't want it. And they could have just stopped it at any time and been fine.
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But, like, you know what I call it? I call it Enoch's Revenge.
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Enoch's Revenge.
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And if you don't know Enoch Powell, ladies and gentlemen, if Jesus Christ was the first cancelled man, Enoch Powell was the second.
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People are going to learn a lot more about him in the years to come, I think. Well, listen, we are going to take a quick break here. We're going to keep Raheem, if he'll have us. And we got Liz Wheeler joining us don't go anywhere. People are out. The U.S. electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use, our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 140 fold by 2030. The good news?
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One solution is already here.
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C
What difference at this point does it make?
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Yeah, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week, we do our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes, inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
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All right.
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Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew, Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this fine show, joined by raheem Kassam from thenationalpulse.com as well as Blake Neff, another one of our producers here. And remotely, we are joined by Liz Wheeler, host of the Liz Wheeler show podcast on BlazeTV. Check it out there. Liz, welcome to the show. And, you know, it's just great to see you again. It's been a while.
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C
Hi, Andrew. Thanks for having me. Man. It's gut wrenching, that opening the montage of Charlie just hits you every day, doesn't it?
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A
I know, I know. Every day. And normally, I mean, right now we're in D.C. and we keep getting a lot of emails about this. And no, we did not change out Charlie set. We are just in D.C. to honor Charlie. We're going to be at the White House tomorrow where he is going to be awarded posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom. President Trump is quickly returning back to the states in order to do that. So we, we really are grateful to President Trump. So we have not changed the set. I keep, we addressed it. Now we're one. And we're still getting, we're still getting notes people think we have. We're at the real America's voice studio in D.C. it's a brand new flashy background. I can, I can appreciate that, Liz. So, I mean, we could start there, really. I mean, tell us what this last month and a few days has meant to you. How has it hit you? What are you seeing? I mean, I want to not miss the big E on the eye chart here and let you address that first.
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C
Yeah, I appreciate it. And I just want to say that you guys have done such an amazing job honoring Charlie's legacy and carrying forward. I mean, I think most people with us today understand exactly what you have shouldered by appearing every day live on this show and making sure that this, this show stays on air. And I just want to tell you how much I appreciate it. And I have an idea, as someone who also works on air, how difficult it is to go on air every day. So mad respect for you guys and I'm sure that Charlie would be so proud of you. It has Been obviously a gut wrenching month. I mean, it not only was our friend assassinated for assassinated, period, which is gut wrenching, but it's been extremely jarring. I think for people who both knew Charlie and who didn't know Charlie personally, who just knew him because of his presence on college campuses and his videos that went viral all the time online, it's been very jarring for people to realize, a lot of people are realizing this for the first time, that Charlie was the one who was assassinated because the left knew his name. But Charlie was the most normal conservative of all of us. I mean, he was so generous and so charitable, so kind, so loving. He spoke firmly, but he spoke the truth in love. He wasn't bombastic, he wasn't extreme. He held all the same views, both political and religious, that we do, and that's the reason that he was brutally murdered. And I think for a lot of people, especially in this era of social media and this, you know, constant dopamine hit news cycle that we exist in, where people get desensitized to grisly stories, even violent stories, it is easy to kind of just read something nasty and move on with your day, see something kind of violent and move on to the next story that interests you. And for the first time, a lot of people realized, wow, this was not something that I can emotionally distance myself from because I can excuse this happening based on the behavior of the victim. We, a lot of people realized this could have been me and would have been me had these leftists who targeted Charlie known my name. And I think that it's why you're seeing the spiritual revival in our country too, because when you are confronted with evil the way that we all were confronted, we saw this happen before our very eyes. And when you're confronted with evil, you realize it's not just left versus right, Republican versus Democrat bickering in our country, that we are engaged in a spiritual battle of good versus evil. And when you see that evil kill your friend, you turn towards the question, okay, if there's evil, there must be good, and what is good? And that leads you, of course, anybody seeking the truth with a capital T is going to find him, is going to find God. And it's been a really gut wrenching month for me and for all of us. But it's also been really beautiful to see the good that can come from evil.
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A
Yeah, well said. And actually, Raheem, you and I were talking about that in the break because Raheem was actually at the memorial as well. And I mean, you were echoing some of what Liz just said to me. And again, I'm so close to this that it's healing for me to hear our friends tell me what they're seeing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So, I mean, if you have something to add.
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Yeah, look, I mean, I ran the tunnel to Towers 5K in New York last week. I've done it for five years now. But this year I made a point of wearing the freedom T shirt and, you know, running through the streets of Manhattan having people coming up to me fist bumping and saying kind words about Charlie was just. It was incredible. And I think not just the whole world has learned so much about him since that horrific moment, but I've learned more about him. And I've. And I've. You know, you see the clips everywhere now, right? Constantly. And study them. And one of the things I've learned is trying to. What he did was trying to find that common ground with somebody as quickly into the conversation as possible.
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So we agree he would say that. So he'd drill down and go. So we agree.
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Yeah.
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Even if it was just the smallest shred of agreement.
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Yes. And I think for the world out there, people get frustrated, we get angry, we get all sorts of your neighbors and your colleagues, I'm sure, about politics and whatever. But my advice to you would be to mimic Charlie as quickly as you can, even if they don't want to find a point of agreement. And I think better conversations are had as a result.
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Absolutely. Well, one of the things, Liz, that I wanted to talk with you about is this video that I saw. I must have had five different people on our team kind of bring it up. And I had been alerted to it actually, in the very early days after Charlie was murdered about this Armed Queers of SLC group. I mean, I. This was something we were watching and Blake and I were in different chats. We were seeing different people apparently know about things beforehand. And I just want to say we have a unique position where we're not able to necessarily chime in on every different theory about the case because, you know, I'm a spokesman for the org. Blake was a. An eyewitness. I was not there, thankfully. But this is, I think, something that you can speak into here. And you gave. You did a brilliant job with this video, Liz. And you're breaking down the discord chats and you're breaking down this group, Armed Queers of slc. So I'm just going to play a couple of these clips and I'm going to let you expound on them as we go. But again, I just want to reiterate, just because we're not chiming in, I understand that sometimes leaves a void and other people are filling that void about this case.
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But.
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But rest assured, we're like a duck on the pond, right? We're steady on top, but underneath our. Our legs are moving a mile a minute. So let's go ahead and play this. Cut 79 from Liz Wheeler.
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There was a Discord Group chat in which Tyler Robinson admitted guilt for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And Cash Patel told the United States Congress that there were at least 20 other people in that Discord Group chat with Tyler Robinson. That means at least 20 other people in that discord chat knew in the immediate aftermath, at the very least, what Tyler Robinson had done. And of course, the question is raised, did they know ahead of time? Did they aid and abet Tyler Robinson? Did he have any accomplices?
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Liz Wheeler.
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Yeah. So I appreciate what you're saying. I mean, I think I can say, as someone who's not part of the active investigation, that when you're part of an active investigation, you are limited in what you're able to say. And I think most of us in the country recognize that, Andrew, and appreciate what you're doing behind the scenes. I'm in a position where I can dig into any of this research, and we have been doing deep dives into this research because there is, at the very least, circumstantial evidence, evidence that the FBI believes is strong enough that they have opened an investigation. This is public knowledge. It's not just me telling you what my sources told me. This is now public knowledge. The FBI has opened an investigation into whether there were groups or individuals who had foreknowledge of Tyler Robinson's plan to assassinate Charlie Kirk. One of these groups is a group called Armed Queers. Slc, Armed Queer Salt Lake City. And this group, Armed Queers, I mean, the name describes their goals pretty well. But their goal is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and fight against capitalism and the American system. They are a communist group, a Marxist group, a Leninist group. And this is not me describing their ideology. This is not me inferring what their ideology is. This is their own words describing their ideology as a Marxist Leninist group they abide by. Go ahead. What's your question?
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C
There's another group in Utah called Armed Queers, Salt Lake City. This was reported on by the New York Post. They are a group of LGBTQIA identifying people. And the purpose of this group, and this is a quote, is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and fight against capitalism and the American system. This group, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, scrubbed their online presence. They deleted their Instagram account. And according to the New York Post, the FBI is investigating whether they had any foreknowledge or any association with Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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Blake, I will never forget in the immediate aftermath and some of our chats, you were showing me screengrabs of people that seemed to have foreknowledge. And this is something I cannot get over. There was some really dark ones. I know one of our staff members actually found one. It was on TikTok, I believe. And it was just this person. Like, ah, man, I don't know if we have it ready to go. They might be able to send it to me. But it was like this girl, just like Charlie's gonna, like, see some, like, learn something tomorrow. Some very ominous thing that's playing this ominous music. And it's just doing this scan past this person's eyes. I don't know if it was a man or a woman. Common problem with this Group, and they were like. And they were just, like, glanced to the side repeatedly. They were doing that. And it was deleted as soon as the attack happened. Yeah. But we've sent these to authorities. Like, we've. We've made sure the FBI is aware of this. Yeah. I spoke with one of our staffers, and, you know, she's told me something did seem up before the event. It just. Like the. The vibes you were seeing on TikTok, it was just a little bit darker than usual. Yeah. And it just would not be shocking if someone at least had some heads up on this. Well, and there was people that were saying, like, something's. Something big is gonna happen tomorrow. You're gonna know it when you see it. I mean, it was. There's some very dark, nasty things that we discovered in this. Liz Wheeler.
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C
Yeah. I'm familiar with the post that Blake's talking about. We also pulled these offline. It wasn't just one or two. I believe there were at least six to seven different posts of people that. And it seems more than a coincidence to me that we're signaling foreknowledge of some kind of violence. Like, Charlie doesn't know what's coming. And, you know, there was. There was a song on Spotify called, you know, the assassination of Charlie Kirk on that day on September 10th. That just doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. I'm glad the FBI is taking this seriously and investigating this, because when you deep dive into this group, this Armed Queers of Salt Lake City, again, the connections between the people running the group and the other groups they're associated with and the crimes that they've been tangentially close to, it doesn't seem like it's a coincidence. It seems like something that it. I can't say, oh, it's likely that this happened, but it seems like there's circumstantial evidence that points to the possibility that there were people that were in knowledge of this, especially given what the mission of this group is.
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Yeah. Well. And in the.
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When we.
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Welcome back radio. Liz, I'm gonna play another piece of your tape talking about the UN because here's. Here's my. There's a weird connection to the un, Believe it or not, with this group. And, Liz, you'll explain it. But, you know, the questions that, to me are the most pressing is who knew? Who knew what, when? How many people knew it, and what are the future intentions of this group? Because everything I can gather from this is that if there's people in this Network that have been radicalized, financed, trained, whatever that were part of radicalizing this individual. How many else, you know, how many others are there and are we really safe until these people are brought to justice or, you know, indicted the way they should be? I understand that you've got to sort of measure once, cut twice when it comes to an investigation, but this is stuff that I sit, I sit alone at night pondering. This is like the thoughts that are going through my head every night. Which is why I wanted to have you, Liz. So we're going to welcome back our national radio audience in about two seconds. Alright, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show, more with Liz Wheeler, host of the Liz wheeler show on BlazeTV. Check it out there. Liz, I'm gonna play another cut from this video that you published and put out was tremendous. Again, so many of our team members were like, please look into this stuff. I'm like, what we are. But let's have Liz be the one that explains it to us for some obvious reasons. Let's go ahead and play cut 81. This is about the ties to the UN.
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81 data Republican published a thread on X saying that this group, Armed Queer Salt Lake City is not only an independent group, this group has actually gotten money and support from the United States government, from the State Department and from the US and the leader of Armed Queers slc, her name is Urmah Fanian, was recognized by a State Department affiliated NGO called Utah Global Diplomacy as a recipient for the 7 for 17 award for advancing the UN's 17 sustainability goals.
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So we are helping finance armed militias of queer people.
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C
Yeah, evidently. And I'd like to make a correction to something that I said in that video too. The leader of Armed Queers SLC or Maya Fanayan, I called this individual she. Well, my mistake or my afanion, is actually a biological male who transitioned in high school. And you know, it's funny, when I saw the name Urmah Fanayan, my reaction to my producer when we first saw this name is like, that sounds like a fake name. Well, it is a fake name. This individual was. Is a biological male who identifies as a female. So it's a he, not a she. But this, this man who identifies as transgender, who is the leader of Armed Queers SLC was given money by, it seems shocking to even say it, a US government agency, the State Department, you know, they give money to NGOs. This is the whole Mike Benz exposing exactly how our tax money goes through the State Department and gets disseminated out to these NGOs that are really just radical leftist political activism organizations. And this is another example of it. I mean, Utah Global Diplomacy, this NGO is giving money to Urmah Fanayan. And this is the thing, Andrew, if I may dive into a little bit of the connections between Urmaya Fanayan, this group, Armed Queers, and some of the other violence that we've seen, the left wing violence that we've seen around the country. This is where I think it gets especially fascinating. If you go back to July in Texas, in Alvarado, Texas, you remember the shooting that happened at the ICE facility. Now this was the first shooting at the first ICE facility in Texas. Not the Dallas one, the Alvarado one. Now the individual who was arrested for that crime was a man named Benjamin song. He's a 32 year old man and he's a member of two different organizations. And it's important to understand that these different leftist organizations, while they seem separate, just wait because I'm going to tie them all together. Because they are tied together. He was a member of a group called the Socialist Rifle association and another group called the John Brown Gun Club, and he's the one who was charged for that shooting. Now the woman who was charged as his accomplice is also a member of the John Brown Gun Club and we'll get to that one in a second. But the Socialist Rifle association is really important because this group has up to 10,000 members across the United States. They're an openly communist socialist group. Their mission, like Armed Queers, is to arm themselves to overthrow the ruling class. They, they call it, they define this culturally, not economically. They want to defend against fascists and Nazis. There have been members of their group who've said any attempt to disarm, quote, unquote, workers must be frustrated by force if necessary. You know, the logo of this group is a trans flag with an assault rifle. Four of, I think the dozen leaders of this group go by they. Them pronouns. This group, Andrew, this is where it's critical. This group on Reddit years ago, the Socialist Rifle association, this group lied about Charlie Kirk and like I said many years ago and said that he called for the lynching of trans people. So the vilification of Charlie Kirk by these radical, violent, militant trans groups has been ongoing for some time Now. This particular group, the Socialist Rifle association, has been tied to many violent crimes in our nation. Crimes that were unfortunately very familiar with the bombings of the Tesla dealerships. This of course, before the July 4th ice attack in Alvarado, Texas. Now this group, the Socialist Rifle Association I would describe as a front group for even more violent groups like Antifa. And the funding for these groups, whether it's Antifa, whether it's armed queers, slc, whether it's the Socialist Rifle association, they actually, you can draw the funding back to one source, which we'll get to in a second. So if we're talking about Antifa, I know this is a little complicated, but this is how they design it, Andrew. They design it so that it's confusing, so that it looks. So that they can obfuscate exactly how they coordinate with each other and where the money comes from and who's in charge, and so that it looks like it is. Their favorite narrative is to claim that they're a decentralized network, they have no leadership. They're, they're, they're a shadow. They're the window. Well, that's not true if you, if you look at their association. So the Socialist Rifle association has overlap with Antifa in the sense that the Socialist Rifle association has been photographed many times with Antifa black bloc protesters.
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Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead. Let me, let me pause you really quick. We're gonna keep going in the break. Hang right there. More with Liz Wheeler in just one second. We'll be all right. Welcome back. Liz, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. This is important. I'm riveted.
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C
No, no, you're good.
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Please continue.
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Okay, so again, follow along because I know this is complicated, but this is how they intend it to be. They want us to be confused. But once you see this, you can't unsee this. So the Socialist Rifle association has a chapter in St. George, Utah. That is the location where Charlie's alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson was cohabitating with his, you know, transgender lover, Lance Twigs. When the Socialist Rifle association chapter in St. George, Utah was asked if Tyler Robinson was a member of their group, they denied it. They said no, he wasn't. But then when the Socialist Rifle association chapter in St. George, Utah was asked if Lance Twigs, Tyler Robinson's so called roommate, this transgender lover, was a member, they refused to confirm or deny that based on their policy of confidentiality of members of their group. So again, that doesn't that circumstantial evidence. That doesn't confirm every anything, but it does make you think, okay, why was their response to the question about Tyler Robinson being a member different than their response about Lance Twiggs? If he wasn't a member and he wasn't associated, why didn't they Outright deny it the way that they denied Tyler Robinson being a member of that group. If I'm the FBI, I'm looking into that. Now. Here's where the Socialist Rifle association becomes more intertwined with Armed Queers. Going back to that, that, that man, Benjamin Song, who was convicted after the ICE shooting in Alvarado, Texas. He was a member of the Socialist Rifle association but also a group called the John Brown Gun Club. The John Brown Gun Club is essentially antifa, but they have ties, Andrew, to Armed Queers. Armed Queer Salt Lake City co hosted. They called it an educational workshop. It's really a militant training weekend with the Elm Fork branch of the John Brown Gun Club. That's the same group, the same. The perpetrators behind this July 4th Alvarado Ice Facility shooting and the founder of Armed Queers, this biological man with the made up name or Maya Fanian pretending to be a girl. He appears to have promoted this collaboration between the John Brown Gun Club associated with the Socialist Rifle association and Armed Queers on his private Instagram. You cannot, when I say you cannot make this stuff up. It's obviously more than, it's more than a coincidence. You have these multiple groups, Armed Queer, Socialist Rifle Association, John Brown Gun Club, antifa members, which really just operate hidden behind these leftist groups so that they can claim they're, they're a decentralized network. You have the social media posts of, what is it, six or seven individuals in Utah in the month leading up to Charlie's assassination that seemed to signal foreknowledge. You have these very strange text messages between Lance Twigs and Tyler Robinson, which I know there are some people that claim that they're fabricated. It doesn't seem to me that they're fabricated by someone on the outside. It seems like a question. If I were the FBI, I would investigate whether they were fabricated to cover for Lance Twigs because he seemed to be the one who had potential associations with these radical groups.
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Yeah. And on that a lot of people, there's a lot of speculation online. I know that some of these digital evidence that they have looks like it was intentionally correspondence intentionally set sent to cover for Lance Twigg. So I'm, I'm aware, we're very aware of that as well. I want to show you something else from Utah. This is the Salt LAKE Tribune put up 99. This is Salt Lake Tribune. And they, they said this is a cartoonist who since moved to Portugal because of how, you know, because of Trump or whatever. And it's a guy named Pat Bagley and he did a Drawing here, this is the original failure to honor their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution from the dictatorial whims of a malignant clown. And it's, and it's called the Hole in the Head gang. And it's a wanted poster that includes Mike Lee, looks like John Curtis. I think it's their whole Congressional. Yeah, Exactly. Burgess, Owens, etc. Etc. And there is this very conspicuous red scarfs around each of each of the characters which is troubling. You know, this is, this was posted on October 7th, so the one year anniversary of what happened in Israel, but also within a month, less than a month after the assassination of Charlie Kirk in the state of Utah, they published this. So something Liz, to me is awry here. And there seems to be this very malignant vein of violent fetishization at the very least and obviously outright violence depending on who's perpetrating it. But Liz, I gotta go at this point. I mean we could keep you into the next break. I don't know what your schedule is, but we're about to welcome Back radio. But I think that was a really, really important breakdown that you just gave us and gave our audience to connect all these pieces. So if you want to stick around, we can do. Let me know. Okay, great. We'll do a few more minutes with Liz Wheeler. We will be right back. We're going to welcome back Radio. The next great awakening is here. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, think about it. Every dollar you spend is either supporting your values or working against your values. So in today's economy, where you spend your money is super, super important. Patriot Mobile is leading the way as America's own only Christian conservative wireless provider. Switch today without sacrificing quality or service, you'll get exceptional nationwide coverage. Because unlike most wireless providers on a budget, Patriot Mobile has access to all three major wireless networks. You can even add two numbers on two different networks on one phone, something the other guys can't even do. So stay connected with flexible unlimited data plans to fit your lifestyle. These plans offer high speed data, mobile hotspots, international roaming, device protection and even Internet backup. Here's the best part. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you're supporting faith, family and freedom. If you believe in our first and second Amendment rights, you're going to want to stick with these guys. Sanctity of life, supporting our veterans. Switching is simple. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. You go to patriotmobile.com charlie or call 972 Patriot again, that's patriotmobile.com charlie or 972 Patriot. Call that right now. And if you use the promo code Charlie, you get a free month of service with that. So please check out our partners there. I want to play this clip for you Liz, and get your reaction. I want to bring you in as well. Rahim, let's go ahead and play cut 100 from Erin Burnett at CNN. She's describing antifa and these radicalization networks and she's carrying their water. I don't know why, but we can discuss it after 100. And obviously I'm not going to sit.
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C
Here and defend anybody who considers themselves.
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Part of an antifa movement.
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Such that it is, but such that it is is the operative part of that sentence. Antifa is far from a major sophisticated terror organization like Hezbollah, Hamas or isis.
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In fact, it's not even like far.
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Right groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers which have had national leaders. Unlike Antifa, there is no organized hierarchy to the group. And according to the center for Strategic and International Studies, compared to right wing extremists, antifa linked violence is rare and limited.
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Ah, so Liz, I want you to relate this back to what you were just talking about. All these disparate, these disconnected, seemingly disconnected groups. But they aren't disconnected. They're sort of decentralized on purpose.
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C
Yes, exactly. And listen, the mainstream media, cnn, Aaron Burnett, they're beyond just stupid at this point. They're propagandists for not just the Democrat Party, but this, I mean that, that, that, that graphic that you showed, that cartoon, it's demonic. That's what it is at this point. So listen, Antifa wants you to think that they are a decentralized network, that they're a grassroots, organic group of citizens who just want to raise their voices in opposition to government policies or yada yada, yada. And the mainstream media is only too happy to parrot exactly what talking points they are given. But this is how Antifa operates. They operate behind the mask of a whole host of radical leftist groups. Many of them have actually quite innocuous names to even hide that they are leftist. But they hide behind these, these groups, these, these leftist activist groups that will stage what they call training workshops where Antifa members come and get training or they'll, Antifa will collaborate with these groups for joint marketing and joint resources, joint transportation and mobilization. They essentially are the parasites intentionally on these leftist groups so that they can get funding and leadership and direction and mobilization without actually ever having to report it. So that they can just fade into the shadows when anyone comes to investigate what they're doing. But Andrew, here's the thing going back to the Armed Queers group for a second. The founder of Armed Queers, Urmaya Fanian, is also an organizer at psl. That's the party of Socialism and liberation. You may recognize the party of Socialism and Liberation. It's a communist political party here in the United States because they were the primary organizers behind the violent anti ice riots that we saw out in Los Angeles just a month or two ago when we were told again that that was also organic and grassroots. It was not. It was staged, it was funded, it was organized, there was collaboration. And the party of Socialism and liberation, this, this kind of fringe communist political party isn't just an autonomous system unit. It's not just a group of people. It's funded by Neville Roy Singham, this, this almost billionaire. He's an American citizen, but he lives in China and communist China because he's a communist. And it's his money, Andrew, that goes through all of these left wing groups to fund the violence that we're seeing in the United States. Whether it's the anti ice riots, whether it's the Students for Justice in Palestine, this pro Hamas stuff that we see on college campuses, or this radical trans violence that we're seeing.
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Well, yeah, and it begs the question, why are we allowing this? Right. Because we can see the impact that it's having on our culture, the violence, this rise of left wing violence. And by the way, it should not go left unsaid, rather that the bullet casings found with Tyler Robinson included antifa slogans. So just because there may not be black block in the, in the wardrobe here of Tyler Robinson or the trans lover doesn't mean that they aren't influenced and inspired and radicalized by these same ideas that are floating around. Rahim, I want to bring you in here really quick. Why? What is with this rising? It seems like this tendency, it's like the talking point went out to Democrats. Why are they saying that antifa doesn't exist now? Or it's not like a real thing? I thought we were so passed. I mean, we also had. Jimmy Kimmel said the same thing. He said, oh, antifa doesn't exist on air. It's like he didn't learn his lesson. What's behind this?
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You know, the wonderful thing in that Erin Burnett clip about where she's equivocating is I'm old enough to remember when people were going on CNN claiming that Hezbollah wasn't a terrorist organization and she uses Hezbollah there as an example of a real terrorist organization, you know, as if. As if all terror factions and groups are the same. As if. As if, you know, what we're talking about here. And I take Liz's point, really, about the. The way they hide behind lots of different groups. But it's kind of like a blockchain of radicalization is what you're seeing out there. Right. And there doesn't need to be central party leader. It's not a political party. You know, it's not. It's not a major corporation. This is a group of deeply disturbed individuals who have grown up being indoctrinated to hate their country and in most cases, to hate themselves and, you know, to sort of invoke, you know, Charlie's empathy here. You know, we hate the sin, not the sinner. Right. We are almost called to have some level of sympathy towards these people because think about the families that they grew up in. Think about the lives they had to grow up in. If you are raised in the United States of America in the years 2000 forward, you know, yes, there's been hardship, yes, there's been financial crisis. Yes, we've had 9, 11. Yes, we've had terrible wars overseas. But you are living the best life of anybody in the entire world. You are more privileged than anybody in the entire world. You have access to more capital, you have access to more innovation. You have access to all these things. And for these people to want to tear down that system, I mean, Erin Burnett doing what she's doing on CNN right now actually harms those people more. She's driving. She's driving them underground. She's helping them stay underground. And if she was really, truly dedicated to the cause of normalization instead of radicalization, then she would call it out for what it is. But CNN has been for so very long, like much of the mainstream media, a key facet in radicalizing these people.
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A
Yes, I totally agree. By the way, I'm going to. You know, it's one after the other here, guys. So here's Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota, saying that Antifa doesn't exist. 105. First person I ever heard use the word antifa was Donald J. Trump when he was going on about how there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. That's the first time I ever heard anyone use the term. So now it's this amorphous thing. And if nobody's really antifa, then everybody could be. And the reason you can't find them is because they're just that crafty. No, you are contributing to a strategy of it's just a liar hiding in sight. Put it up. Put up the B roll. He did a pose in 2020. He's posing with Antifa, the Anti Fascist Handbook by Mark Bray. Mark Bray, who, who is a Rutgers professor who just fled to Spain. Attempted. Didn't they stop him? Hopefully he doesn't come back. Hopefully he's not still on payroll. Rutgers, we are on that case like white on rights. Right. It's just, it's a despicable thing. It is just calculated lying here where what they do is. It's exactly. He's fueling it. Because what they do is they do keep it distributed. They keep it amorphous, which is how the left operates in generally, the left benefits from entropy. They benefit from really widely distributing things. We saw that in 2020 where no one needed to send a central order to do riots after the George Floyd thing. They just kind of all new and it distributes much more easily throughout their network. Well, they do have a loose network. And maybe, Liz, this is a good point for you to make, but they do have a loose network of foot soldiers, right. I'll never forget that Time magazine article about how they. It was by Molly Ball, right, where they talked about after the election, everybody was surprised because the foot soldiers weren't, you know, they weren't dispatched out into the streets to riot. And everybody was surprised. But that's because there are captains in this loose network network that either say go or don't go. Here's the signs. Here's your money. Show up here or not to show up here. It's loose. It's disconnected.
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B
Well, I think it's a little tighter than that actually, because a lot of it comes out of the unions and the union networks. There is formalized structure here. We've just sort of accepted it. You know, we don't, we don't dig into these people in these places.
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A
Well, there is, I think probably, and Liz, maybe this is big good point for you is there is a difference between. And these things do sort of bleed one into the other. And there are gradations of extremism right from, you know, starting maybe at the union organizers on the way down. And there might be some people that are more radicalized and they happen to be in a union and they happen to be part of these sort of foot soldier networks. Two minutes to you, Liz.
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C
Yeah, Let me go back to Rahim's point from before because I think this is actually really critical in understanding why this. This demonic hatred, this assassination culture, as Charlie called it, has become so mainstream on the left that this is not a fringe viewpoint that a few people hold. We've all had friends on Facebook that we thought were just normal, but kind of leftists who were celebrating Charlie's murder. And it's just so. It's so gut wrenching. But Rahim mentioned that these. These people who are now these antifa members have been radicalized. They've been brainwashed not just to hate you, but to hate themselves. And in my book, Hide youe Children, I wrote this two years ago. I write about the indoctrination of children that happens in public school from a very low level. And I said, listen, critical race theory and trans ideology pack a 1, 2 punch, because critical race theory comes in and tells these young children to hate themselves based on the color of their skin, black or white. You're either an oppressor or oppressed. You're disgusting. And then trans ideology comes in and says, but we're gonna offer you salvation. We're gonna offer you redemption, because otherwise you can't be redeemed because it's inherent to your skin color. And if you put on the mantle this identity of transgenderism, if you become one of the oppressed, the lgbtqia, then you can be redeemed from your evil identity. And I got some heat, Andrew, after the Covenant School shooting for saying, just accurately describing the transgender ideology as not just damaging and antibiology, but for describing it as a violent, inherently violent, revolutionary ideology that intentionally targets vulnerable youth to turn them into kamikazes for the communist vanguard. And I hate. It's gut wrenching for me to even say that's what we've seen happen since I made that warning, because that's really what the transgender ideology is all about. It's about targeting these children, telling them that they're horrible and the only way they can be redeemed is by essentially embracing the devil. And then once they're captured, they're used as. As. As human suicide bombers, essentially, to assault the right.
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A
Wow. I think. Well said, Liz. We've got a quick break coming up in a second, right, guys? Getting a little confused. I think we have a break. We're gonna keep going in the break, so don't go anywhere. Welcome back. I'm gonna play this clip here. This is. It's a little bit of a longer clip, but it's like the talking point went out about how we're just gonna act on the left, like antifa doesn't exist, guys. 106 no Antifa. This is an entirely imaginary organization. There is not an antifa. Like I don't even know what antifa is. There is no group.
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C
It's not even like far right groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers compared to right wing extremists. Antifa linked violence is rare and limited.
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A
It isn't an organization.
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B
It is a, it is a, in many ways mythology.
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C
It's not like the Proud Boys or.
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A
The Oath Keepers, you know, sort of defined terrorist organizations with leadership that led.
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C
That you know, leads violence.
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A
It's not a highly organized movement. It's a moniker. It's an, it's.
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C
It's.
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A
It's not a unified group like the Proud Boys are. Things like antifa are things that are thought up. It's all in this guise of going after antifa, which is nothing. There's no organization called antifa. Nobody's a member of antifa because it doesn't exist. They are just declaring into existence something that doesn't exist. There is no antifa organization. So maybe that's good for social media, but it really has. Is non existent. They exist on the Internet, in chat rooms and in 4chan and Discord, in places like that where they run discussion boards, trade tactics, documents, things like. Like that.
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B
But none of them are called antifa.
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A
None of them are called antifa. A little shout out to Tom Elliot from Grabian who put that montage together. Really powerful. Seeing it all, all the talking heads that spew this radicalization and they really are giving a sheen of legitimacy to a network of radicalized individuals that have, like Mark Bray, the professor at Rutgers, are justifying violent activity, violent illiberal activity, preemptive violence. And Mark Bray in his book the Antifa Handbook, which Keith Ellison is holding, I looked into this. He actually advocates for fists, knives, guns, heavy weaponry if necessary to essentially deconstruct the western capitalist system. He has completely given up on debate, open dialogue, these sorts of things. That's what the whole handbook is about. It's about violence. And Rutgers University is employing this guy, as far as I know, right now, today, even though he fled to Europe once after Charlie's assassination, this became more of a hot topic. So this guy is such a coward that he advocates for a violent political system. And then the second he gets called out on it, he's such a coward. Existing in the world that he was advocating for, he flees from it because it's a garbage system. It's a garbage idea. Nobody wants to live in that world. So shame on you.
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B
Coward.
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A
Mark Bray, you flee to Spain and you stay there. And I hope Rutgers University will do the right thing and permanently fire this garbage human for, you know, for, for good. Can. Can you just stay in Spain? Good riddance to you. And by the way, there was a whole group on campus that tried to launch a petition against our Turning Point chapter there, completely lying and defaming them, saying we were inciting violence. So New Jersey, Rutgers. I want to know what your explanation is. I am not going to let go of that story. I'm a dog with a bone. I put a whole thing on X over the weekend, so I'm not going anywhere. It seemed like you wanted to say something.
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B
No. There are several things there that I think require further explanation as well. I mean, a lot of the left really believes, you know, they think they're still fighting the Spanish Civil War, which is probably why he's fled to Spain of all places. He does, he does think, you know, that's where this whole thing comes from. But so many of the groups on the left are antifa today that happen to be called antifa. To be part of antifa. This, this thing that we've legitimized and allowed it to happen. It reminds me of the way sort of Thatcher dealt with it. And by the way, it would be Margaret Thatcher's 100th birthday today. So. Yeah, I just had to. I just shoehorn that one in.
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A
You have to.
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B
There's so much there that we're not unpacking yet and we've got to do it.
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A
Well, let's do it. We've got one more segment with Liz Wheeler and Raheem Kassam and Blake Neff. We will be right back. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Final segment of the day. It's. And we're actually. We have a little surprise for tomorrow. I should say. So don't. We did not change the Charlie Kirk show set. You'll keep asking. The emails keep coming in. We're all there. We're just in D.C. for the day. And tomorrow we're going to be in a different location, which we will announce soon. But anyways, I want to wrap this up. I think this has been a really important conversation because I think it's important that our audience is. Understands how these networks of radicalization. Yeah, antifa is. It's not like it doesn't have a board. It's not like a Delaware company. You know, that's not what we're suggesting. It is an ideological movement with many branches. A lot of them have Twitter handles by the way, like Portland or Chicago, New York. You don't always know who's running those Twitter handles or who's financing what networks are sending money or not sending money. But they are, they are kind of hive mind. And by the way, Liz, this goes back to some of your main points from the top of the hour. That they are a loose connection of networks that might be connected to the John Brown Gun Club or Armed Queers slc, but they are all sort of like minded. Maybe they have different focuses, but they are, this is what's happening. And when you, when you see a graphic like this, it's one that I keep harping on but I want to throw it up again. It's here in the chat. It's the groups that are most radicalized for violence. Liz, this is a really shocking. Guys, if you could find that it's the 18 to 39 year olds that are self described as progressive. Liz. Yes, this is the graph. Look at that one node on the left, that blue node up at 30% of self described radical of self described liberals say that violence is an acceptable form of political intervention, that it can be justified. 30%. And meanwhile you look at conservatives of that same age group and they are the most peaceful of any of the, of any of the cohorts. Liz Wheeler, what do you make of that?
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C
Yeah, I think the question that we have to ask when we look at that graphic which is quite shocking to behold presented visually like that, why, why are 18 to 39 year old men who identify as leftist usually they're not the most masculine examples of men either. So why are these individuals the most violent? And the answer is indoctrination. They're not born inherently violent. So they are being groomed into this violence, into this ideology. And the way that they're being groomed is multifactorial. It's through the public school system. It's not just universities. It starts early, it starts as early as primary school. School, the public school system, certainly colleges and universities. Obviously TikTok has played a large role here. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this, but there's also a violent subculture of the video gaming world that is, and Tyler Robinson is actually a good example of that, that is desensitized to violence because of the violence of the video games that they're playing. There are also a generation of young men who have been poisoned by big pharma and that impacts the way that their consciences operate. So they are vulnerable youth ripe for this indoctrination. And they're, of course, military age young men. So the people who are organizing this violence know that they're the ones most likely to carry it out.
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A
Yeah. It kind of reminds me of what you were saying, Raheem, that. Blake, I want to hear from you too, in the last few minutes we have here. But it reminds me what you're saying. You live in this amazing country. Yes, we have problems. Charlie was very honest about those problems. He was calling for an economic moonshot to get the next generation bought in, to have skin in the game of the American dream. All those things are very important. But it doesn't negate the fact that this is still the land of opportunity. You have to seize it. You have to believe that you have the opportunity to engage. And that was really the message that Charlie was preaching to young men, is that you have the initiative, the ability within yourself to take ownership of your own life. And I think there is this propensity to veer into nihilism, where you just don't feel like you. You can, and then you end up becoming disengaged with polite society. You become dissident culture, whatever, and you get violent.
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B
I, you know, on Columbus Day especially, you know, I remind myself, we actually have an article up about it on the national pulse of why I'm here. You know, what attracted me to America is I've left a country that has this politics of envy at its core. You know, in the United Kingdom, if you earn money and you do well, people sort of sneer at you. Ooh, that's a bit ghost. You know, it's a bit much. Why don't you calm down? In America, if you do very well, people go, dude, that's so cool. Like, how can I help? Like, you know, I want to get involved. I want to do something like that. There's a whole different culture about it. And, you know, I'm not just a commentator on this. In this conversation about extremism, I was a counter extremism practitioner. As my first job out of college, I advised the British government, advised the British Parliament on radical Islamic terrorism and extremism on college campuses. And the hallmarks of what's going on on the left today bear the same hallmarks of how young Islamic men were radicalized in the early 2000s.
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A
That's fascinating. I would love to hear more of that. Blake, do you want to take us home? I'm sorry. We only have 20 seconds left. I know. I'm gonna throw out one thing. Some of them are radicalized, but a lot of just bad people. And you should be wary of, like, there are a lot of people who are malevolent, resentful, acquisitive, entitled, very negative energy. And they like the left. Cause it gives them an excuse to vent all of their bile. We'll be back tomorrow from a new location. Charlie's getting the medal of fame.
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C
Thank you.
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A
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C
What difference at this point does it make?
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A
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