The Charlie Kirk Show, October 23, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – Real America’s Voice, October 23, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show—now hosted by the show's executive producer, Andrew Colvitt, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination—delivers a high-octane, unfiltered discussion on the intersection of politics, culture, media influence, and the precarious state of free speech and public safety in America. Joined by prominent conservative influencers including Jack Posobiec, Megan Basham, and Robby Starbuck, the show addresses the increasing radicalization of political rhetoric, the implications of tech censorship and AI-driven slander, and the unique challenges and failures of American evangelical institutions in the face of cultural upheaval.

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Key Topics and Insights

1. Political Violence and Rhetoric against Law Enforcement (00:56–05:00, 14:45–18:20)

• ICE Tracking and Doxxing: The show opens with a heated debate on the creation of "ICE trackers"—public portals encouraged by Democratic lawmakers to monitor and identify federal immigration officers.
  • Jack Posobiec draws direct lines between Antifa tactics and Democratic legislative efforts:

    “There’s no daylight whatsoever between what you see at the Antifa level and what you see at the Democrat level in the House… They have hit lists, they have cells, they have command centers in Seattle...” (11:57)

  • Colvitt and Posobiec warn that these trackers not only risk doxxing officers but, in their view, enable and accelerate violence against ICE agents—a concern also raised by former officials like Pam Bondi and Stephen Miller.
  • Memorable Moment: Jack's sarcastic quip on Lori Lightfoot:

    “…I'm glad that she's already out wearing her Beetlejuice costume in public…” (17:13)

  • Posobiec links this rhetoric to "steps in furtherance of a conspiracy" to commit violence, citing real-world attacks on agents as evidence. (17:51)

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2. Reflection on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and Influence (08:53–11:27, 22:27–24:00)

• Charlie Kirk’s Status Posthumously: The hosts reflect on Kirk as a martyr after his assassination, crediting his impact on the conservative and Christian youth movements.
  • Jack Posobiec rejects his own "top influencer" label in The Atlantic, declaring, "the name of MAGA’s most important influencer is Charles James Kirk." (09:40)
  • The show’s tone is both somber and appreciative, emphasizing the dangers faced by high-profile conservatives and lamenting a media environment that, in their view, too often puts "targets" on right-wing leaders' backs.

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3. Pentagon Press Restrictions & The Evolving Media Landscape (25:16–29:38)

• New Press Rules at the Pentagon: Discussion shifts to recent Pentagon efforts to clamp down on media leaks by restricting off-the-record conversations—policies that have led legacy press outlets to boycott Pentagon briefings.
  • Posobiec sees this as both a reaction to problematic leaks and an opportunity for non-traditional media like Human Events and The Post Millennial to increase their influence:

    “We are the media now.” (29:41)

  • Host and guests criticize legacy media's "entitlement" and highlight what they perceive as historical double standards (e.g., Obama-era restrictions vs. current backlash).

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4. Far-Left Violence, “No Kings” Rhetoric, and the Mainstreaming of Antifa Language (86:17–89:40)

• Explaining Radical Language: Jack Posobiec gives an impromptu history lesson, connecting the phrase "No Kings" popular in recent protests to the French Revolution and Antifa symbolism:

  “No kings, no lords... was one of the original slogans of the Jacobins, the most violent group of the French Revolution. … It means beheadings. It is violence and it has always been violence…” (87:44)

  • The hosts run through recent viral incidents of left-wing activists using explicit threats—“watch your neck” gestures at rallies, outright calls to “wipe out” political opponents, etc.—and argue that such acts are underreported or excused by mainstream media.

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5. Big Tech, AI, and Defamation—Robby Starbuck vs. Google (71:54–80:30)

• AI-Driven Slander: Filmmaker and activist Robby Starbuck describes his lawsuit against Google for its AI (Gemini/Gemma) repeatedly and elaborately fabricating criminal histories about him.
  • The AI not only invented crimes, but created...
    • Fake victims
    • Fake court, therapy, and police records
    • Fake news links and headlines impersonating Fox News, Daily Wire, Human Events, and more
  • Starbuck notes, "their own AI says that what it has done is so malicious, so consistent... it leads it to believe Google did this for political reasons." (76:05)
  • Jack Posobiec links this phenomenon to Google’s search algorithm bias, with SPLC smear profiles routinely surfacing first for right-leaning figures.
  • Crucial Quote:

    “People need to understand... If Google is allowed to deploy malicious AI that defames candidates... you could see the balance of power in the country decided by maliciously programmed AI.” — Robby Starbuck (78:44)

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6. The Crisis in American Evangelical Institutions—“Big Eva” and the Charlie Kirk Standard (98:09–121:41)

• Megan Basham’s Critique: Basham takes aim at “Big Eva” (big evangelical organizations) for keeping Kirk at “arm’s length" before his death because of his conservative and Trump-aligned politics—yet celebrates him as a martyr afterward.

  • Basham highlights the “third way” strategy—evangelical avoidance of clear political stances—and critiques the double standard of welcoming left-wing activists but excluding conservative voices like Kirk.
    • “They were happy to have the Democratic operatives, but they were not happy to have Charlie on.” (102:26)
  • Clips are played of evangelical leaders and writers minimizing Kirk’s martyrdom or expressing discomfort with his boldness.
    • Jackie Hill Perry: “…it’s not that I don’t appreciate his stances on abortion, on sexuality, on marriage, but it’s also, I hear other things alongside that that don’t give martyr.” (107:53)
  • Basham forcefully declares, “I’m going to say unequivocally: Charlie was a martyr. Charlie was assassinated for his Christian beliefs. That’s a martyr.” (108:11)

• Charlie Kirk’s Preaching Style:

  • The team plays a clip of Kirk challenging contemporary “sanitized” Christianity:

    “The young kids don’t want you to kind of sanitize all this stuff for them... You know why you’re miserable? Because you’re not following God’s laws and commands.” — Charlie Kirk (114:52)

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7. Young People and Catholic Traditionalism (117:11–121:04)

• Posobiec on Catholic “Trad” Revival: Jack discusses the “trad cath” movement’s growth, crediting the Latin Mass with drawing young people seeking moral clarity and doctrinal consistency in contrast to more “lukewarm” forms of Christianity.

  “It’s just full on traditional, unchanging biblical doctrine… it’s not woke. People are just thirsty for that.” (117:11)

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8. NBA Betting & Organized Crime Scandal (40:45–48:07)

• Breaking Sports News: The hosts react live to news of a major NBA gambling scandal—with ties to mafia families and dozens of arrests—while riffing on the symbolic loss of “rules and accountability” in American culture.

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9. Immigration & Public Safety Concerns (54:01–59:50)

• Recent Tragedy: The team discusses a fatal truck crash in California caused by a DUI illegal immigrant driver, using the event to argue against both illegal and high-volume legal immigration and to advocate for a moratorium.
  • “There’s no need for 1.2 million green cards in a country ... that has robotics and AI coming to take jobs.” (57:58)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Democrats, Antifa, and ICE Tracking:
  • “How much more blood has to be spilled by Democrats, Sean, before this madness stops? I’m from the hood, okay?” — Terrence Bates (03:09)
• On Threats Against Conservatives:
  • “They could have at least taken the time to put the crosshairs—like Photoshopped on my face.” — Jack Posobiec (23:18)
• On Media Entitlement:
  • “…the most entitled, pretentious, I would say, career that one might choose or just the disposition of those people that tend to occupy that career…” — Andrew Colvitt (28:29)
• On Evangelical Third Wayism:
  • “It’s a bold Christian witness that said these are my political priorities, and these are my political priorities because I follow Christ.” — Megan Basham (110:18)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic | Speakers | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------|----------------------------|-------------------| | ICE portal and violence | Colvitt, Posobiec, Starbuck| 01:03–05:00 | | Reflection on Charlie Kirk | Colvitt, Posobiec | 09:40–10:47, 22:27–24:02 | | Antifa/ICE/Hit Lists | Posobiec | 11:57–14:45 | | Media/Pentagon Press Rules | Posobiec, Colvitt | 25:16–29:41 | | NBA, Gambling, Mafia Scandal | Colvitt, Posobiec | 40:45–48:07 | | Immigrant Trucking Accident | Colvitt, Posobiec | 54:01–59:50 | | Google AI/AI-Driven Defamation | Starbuck, Posobiec | 71:54–80:30 | | Big Eva vs. Kirk/Evangelical Critique | Colvitt, Basham, Posobiec | 98:09–121:41 | | Catholic Traditionalism & Young People | Posobiec | 117:11–121:04 | | No Kings/Antifa/French Revolution | Posobiec | 86:37–89:40 |

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Takeaways

• Escalating Rhetoric & Risks: The show paints a stark picture of what it sees as unchecked far-left violence, political doxxing, and the mainstreaming of Antifa tactics by Democratic leadership.
• Tech as a Threat: AI technologies—once hoped to be neutral—can become tools for political defamation and bias at a massive scale, as illustrated by Starbuck’s lawsuit.
• Evangelical Compromise: There is significant frustration among conservative Christians over what is perceived as the failure (or refusal) of “Big Eva” to engage forcefully in the cultural and political battlefront, especially when compared to the boldness—and now martyrdom—of Charlie Kirk.
• Generational Crisis and Spiritual Yearning: Young Americans, the hosts argue, are rejecting “lukewarm” spirituality and flocking to tradition and unfiltered truth—something both Kirk’s approach and Latin Mass Catholicism exemplify.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode captures a conservative movement in mourning, reflection, and realignment, grappling with the dangers of escalating political violence, the perils of unchecked technological power, and the spiritual vacuum left by an “institutional church” that, in the view of the hosts, has lost its courage. Blending news analysis, theological critique, and memorialization, the show is both a warning and a rallying cry for unflinching engagement in America’s current culture war.

Transcript

[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

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[Jack Posobec]

They'll be coming in by land a.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Little bit more because they're not coming in by boat anymore. There are no boats in the water. And we will hit them very hard.

[Jack Posobec]

When they come in by land. And they haven't experienced that yet, but.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Now we're totally prepared to do that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

You're seeing these cartels and these narco traffickers afraid because for the first time.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

They'Re actually seeing in President Trump someone.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Who means what he says, that he's.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Going to stop them from putting the.

[Andrew Colvitt]

American people's lives at risk. A new portal where residents can send.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Photos and videos of ICE operations. James says the portal is meant to review and investigate legal violations by agents.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And her statement referenced Tuesday's immigration raid.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

In Chinatown in New York City. Meantime, House Democrats say they will launch their own similar ICE Tracker. US Attorney General Pam Bondi criticizing that effort, citing a sharp increase in violence against law enforcement. This morning, Congressman Robert Garcia announced the.

[Megan Basham]

Creation of the new master ICE Tracker, which will report activity across the nation. What are your thoughts on that program?

[Jack Posobec]

I've had a conversation with Robert Garcia about that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We start the process of unmasking the agents. Even though they're wearing masks, every single one of them has a towel.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

You say unmasking, they're going to say.

[Jack Posobec]

You'Re going to dox them.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

And that's why threats against them are up. They are on public property, out in the open.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We have an absolute right under our constitution to be able to document what's happening. Every single one of those agents, height, weight, hair color, they wear their vests in a particular way. They're wearing insignias.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Even the masks that they wear, the.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Shoes that they wear, the cars that they're driving, we have a right to compile that information.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

You have Democrats in New York City.

[Robby Starbuck]

For example, encouraging the rioters who are.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Assaulting ICE officers, removing criminal aliens from their communities. You have Democrats trying to create tracking apps to tell the criminals, the fugitives, the Rapists, the killers, the cartel members, where and when ICE is going to be. This is a party that has embraced full scale insurrection against the laws of the United States. How much more blood has to be spilled by Democrats, Sean, before this madness stops? I'm from the hood, okay?

[Terrence Bates]

So if you hit me in my.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Face, I'm not gonna punch you back in your face.

[Jack Posobec]

I'm gonna go across your neck.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We need to wipe out every Republican.

[Jack Posobec]

In New York, in California, in Illinois.

[Terrence Bates]

So no one can make me feel bad about fighting my fantasy dream.

[Jack Posobec]

And I think we ought to have radical thing.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I think they all ought to have.

[Jack Posobec]

Their head shaven, they should be put in orange pajamas, they should be marched down Pennsylvania Avenue and the public should.

[Leon Neyfak]

Be invited to spit on.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I happen to know, and I love.

[Jack Posobec]

A lot of people that voted for the President.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

And they're not fascists, they're not Nazis, they're not trying to destroy the Constitution, all those things. That kind of extreme kinds of rhetoric makes it easier for those kinds of extreme kinds of actions, even like what.

[Jack Posobec]

Happened to poor Charlie Kirk and that.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

And now why you can't allow people to grieve. We are forgetting, we're forgetting that we.

[Terrence Bates]

All, we need each other.

[Miles Grimard]

We need each other here and now.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I refuse to be a part of it and comparing people to Hitler and those things because that's, that's. If that's what's required to win then, then I refuse to.

[Announcer]

A red semi truck plowed into a.

[Megan Basham]

Number of vehicles on the westbound 10.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Freeway in Ontario just after 1pm yesterday.

[Announcer]

The CHP told the LA Times the driver of this big rig is a 21 year old man who is now under arrest on suspicion of driving under.

[Megan Basham]

The influence of drugs. A total four semis were involved and.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Also four passenger vehicles, one of them exploding in flames. Three people were killed and four others were taken to local hospitals.

[Jack Posobec]

I certainly get mad, I get angry. I also get sad that this is.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

The state of our country. They don't care about doing things like.

[Jack Posobec]

This to destroy individuals to go after me, to hurt me and my family and others.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

President Putin has not come to the.

[Jack Posobec]

Table in an honest and forthright manner as we hope. We are going to be announcing a.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Substantial increase in Russia sanctions.

[Jack Posobec]

This will be one of the largest sanctions that we have done against the Russian Federation in terms of what we're doing.

[Terrence Bates]

Look, these are tremendous sanctions. These are very big.

[Jack Posobec]

Those are against their two big oil companies. And we hope that they won't be on for long. We hope that the war will be settled.

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[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

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[Announcer]

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[Jack Posobec]

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[Leon Neyfak]

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[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Every day is a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with.

[Terrence Bates]

The will to deceive.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still.

[Jack Posobec]

Has the will to believe in the.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Greatest country in the history of the world.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Jack Posobec]

Buckle up.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Here we go. All right, everybody. Stations across the country, Real America's voice, Salem News Channel, all the things streaming podcasts. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show. And today I am joined by maga's main man. That's right, the number the most important influencer in the MAGA world. And that is, of course, Jack Posobic, host of Human Events Daily. That's right, Jack. Take a bow.

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah.

[Terrence Bates]

Okay.

[Jack Posobec]

I. I did not write the Atlantic piece. I did not go on the record for the Atlantic piece. But I will say this.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We have graphics.

[Jack Posobec]

I will say this about. Oh, do you have the thing?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, there it is. Oh, yeah.

[Jack Posobec]

Here's what I'll say about this. I respectfully disagree with the Atlantic naming me maga's most important influencer. Next top influencer. I respectfully disagree. The name of maga's most important influencer is Charles James Kirk. And that's all I'm going to say about that.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Well. Well said. Well, you. You took it in a classy direction. I was just trying to razz you a little bit. It came out the Atlantic. We knew this story was kind of percolating. Jack, you and I talked about it a little bit. And listen, I'll tell you what. I think it's well earned. I think you do a lot for the movement. You've been out and about like crazy lately working campaigns. You've been campaigning for Jack Cittarelli. You've been encouraging the grassroots of Turning Point action. Obviously, you've been everywhere, as we remember and celebrate the legacy of Charles James Kirk. So, you know, I'm. I'm excited to see it. It's a. I mean, it is kind of a. It's the Atlantic. So, you know, it's only fake news. It has to be fake news.

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, I mean, they. They've been calling around. They were asking like, they're asking about my military record. They were calling some, you know, people I had served in the military with, and they were saying, you know, what was, you know, what units, was he in and did he, what was his service like and what was this and what was that? And I think they foia my military records. They got a copy of that at one point, which is funny because, you know, I'll release my military records. But Mickey Sherrill, who's running for governor in New Jersey, she won't release her Navy Academy records when she was caught up in that cheating scandal. I'm like, I've released my records to every single reporter who's ever asked. I never have a problem with it. But for some reason they never want to put that out because, oh, it turns out my records are actually pretty good.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Turns out. Well, listen, there's another story about keeping records, Jack, and this is of course the Democrats on the oversight committee in House are going, they've announced a plan to roll out a master online ice tracker. So and this corresponds with a really creepy story that we covered at TPUSA Frontlines about this basically at antifa hit list. I want to know what the heck is going on with Democrats keeping lists all of a sudden. And so.

[Jack Posobec]

Well, it's amazing, right? So there's no, there's no daylight whatsoever between what you see at the antifa level and what you see at the Democrat level in the House. And this is something where, you know, Harry Sisson asked me the other day, he said, does you know, does you know, are there any high ranking Democrats who call Republicans fascists in Hillary? I said, well, yeah, Kamala Harris did when you were campaigning for. They all do. Joe Biden, you go down the list, right? So what, what Katie Davis Court and TPUSA frontlines were able to uncover on the ground. And, and they've gone through Seattle, they've gone through Portland, they've been infiltrating Oakland, California, infiltrating these antifa cells. And they found hit lists of prominent influencers, reporters, media figures, conservatives, that if you see these people that you are essentially to fight them, to attack them. And I'm just going to say it, to kill them, right? These are kill orders that got put out certainly after the murder of Charlie Kirk and certainly after that White House roundtable that we held talking about antifa and that's what they're doing now. And so you can actually see there are certain members of the Turning Point Frontlines team like Jonathan Cho and Dr. Carlin Porsenko who joined them as well, that were on the list even as they themselves were there taking the photos and were infiltrated. So they're sitting there taking a picture of of their own mug shots, essentially, from this terrorist group. And again, it really just goes to show you that whenever you hear the media, whenever you hear the Democrats say that they don't exist, that Antifa doesn't exist, they have hit lists, they have cells, they have book bears, they have communes, they have command centers in Seattle that you can go into and infiltrate like Turning Point Front Lines did. And God bless them for going in there, putting themselves in harm's way like this. They literally go to the front lines, and that's why they're called that. Those are the guys who should be called the top influencers. Those are the guys that. Who are the most important, the ones that are actually putting themselves in harm's way. And I used to do stuff like this, but it's actually, there's a piece in the article where Bannon says he, you know, he chewed me out for, you know, doing this in 2020 because I started to become more recognized by Antifa. And that's what led to that picture of me in the Lincoln park, the statue of Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln from 2020, squaring off with Antifa because they had recognized me, and I was just there to do a report on what was happening. So you look at all this, and then you combine that with the fact that now we have House members that want to target ICE officers, the same ones who want to bring up January 6th every time they get a chance, they bring up January 6th, January 6th, January 6. And now you are the ones that are physically doxing, harassing, and targeting federal agents on the street, who, by the way, are enforcing the laws that were passed by Congress. That's what federal agents do. Well, yeah, they're trying to get people killed.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah. Let me. Let me play some of these clips. This is Rep. Robert Garcia. He's a top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, and he's announcing this plan. Cut to 43.

[Robby Starbuck]

I share this with the mayor.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Over the course of the next couple of weeks, the Oversight Committee will be.

[Robby Starbuck]

Launching on their website a master ICE.

[Terrence Bates]

Tracker where we can be essentially tracking every single instance that we can verify that the community will send, be able.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

To see, send us information on. Yeah, and you saw Karen Bass there. And then we have another disgraced big city mayor. This is Lori Lightfoot, just getting in on the action. 290.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We start the process of unmasking the agents. Even though they're wearing masks, every single one of them has a towel.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

You say unmasking, they're going to say.

[Jack Posobec]

You'Re going to dox them and that's.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Why threats against them are up. They are on public property, out in the open.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We have an absolute right under our constitution to be able to document what's happening. Every single one of those agents, height, weight, hair color, they wear their vests.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

In a particular way. They're wearing insignias.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Even the masks that they wear, the.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Shoes that they wear, the cars that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

They'Re driving, we have a right to compile that information.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

So she's claiming she has a constitutional right to essentially docs track and endanger ICE agents that are enforcing federal immigration law. And by the way, that we're just. This, this policy, that of mass deportations that was just voted on by the American people after Joe Biden let in 10 million plus illegals stream into this country. And so now they're doing it. So you're seeing it. This is the, at the federal level, you're seeing this at the local level. There's Latisha James, who's getting in on the action here. Jack. 288. Let's play that cut. A new portal where residents can send photos and videos of ICE operations. James says the portal is meant to review and investigate legal violations by Agen.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And her statement referenced Tuesday's immigration raid.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

In Chinatown in New York City. Meantime, House Democrats say they will launch their own similar ICE tracker.

[Andrew Colvitt]

US Attorney General Pam Bondi criticizing that.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Effort, citing a sharp increase in violence against. So, so, so Jack, we've got two different efforts here to track ICE agents and Stephen Miller is livid. He's saying how much more blood has to be spilled by Democrats before this madness stops. And that's exactly where my head goes. We just exactly right.

[Jack Posobec]

By the way, just on, on Lori Lighthizer, I wanted to say I commend her. I know Halloween is next week, but I'm glad that she's already out wearing her Beetlejuice costume in public. I want to say that's, that's really great. Don't say it three times or, or, you know, it might pop up. But I mean, you, you, you hear this violent rhetoric and you hear this violent. And again, these are taking steps. So when you, when you talk about the. It's like when you talk to lawyers about what's a, you know, how do you constitute a conspiracy where there's a conspiracy to commit violence? Well, taking steps in furtherance of a conspiracy is how you move from just talking about something like, oh, I hate them. I hate that guy so much, you know, you know, I could murder him.

[Robby Starbuck]

Right?

[Jack Posobec]

That's free speech. But when you take steps in furtherance of the conspiracy, that's when it crosses into illegal action. And so what they're saying out there, the low level are saying we are going to kill the ICE agents. We're going to shoot at them. They have shot at them. This guy down in Dallas had the anti ice written on the bullet casings. And and now what do we see? They're giving lists, they're trying to put out addresses. They want another killer. They're taking steps in furtherance of the conspiracy.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Real quick moment here. We've got more with Jack Posobic all hour one and then we're going to have some other guests in hour two. We've got Robby Starbuck and Megan Basham coming in hour two. So don't go anywhere. The government, government needs more money. And of course that would mean it's your money, it's taxpayer money. So if you owe the IRS back taxes, they can garnish your wages and even levy your bank accounts. They can seize your retirement, they can take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. Call the professionals at Tax Network usa. Their tax lawyers and enrolled agents are experts in powerful programs that may even help you eliminate your tax debt altogether. Tax Network USA is A rated and has saved over $1 billion for clients. But you have to act now while you still have options. For a free consultation called Tax Network USA, Tax Network USA at 1800-958100-01800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com we'll be right back.

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yes, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Jack Posobec. You know, I've got one issue with this Atlantic story. I mean, can I actually say something?

[Jack Posobec]

Just one.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

One issue. They didn't mention Unhumans New York Times bestseller. So there you go.

[Jack Posobec]

So, yeah, they mention it, but. So they mention it. And they mentioned that. That Vice President Vance had given us the top blurb of it before he had become vice president, even before the nomination. And they don't mention New York Times bestseller. How are you going to mention it and not say New York Times bestseller?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

It's like it's a black eye on the. On the liberal soul. So here's. Here's what I will say. And in all seriousness, you know, I am worried. And we got some emails about this in the break. You know, that. That they are trying to paint a target on your back. And so 100%, you know, if you're in the. They should.

[Jack Posobec]

They could have at least taken the time to put the crosshairs, like photoshopped on my face.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Exactly. So I want. I want everybody in the audience to pray against the schemes of darkness and pray for Jack's safety.

[Robby Starbuck]

Thank you.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

And that you would just keep him in his. In your prayers and keep all of us at tpusa. And by the way, the frontlines team that. That is doing this brave investigation, the. The Cho show. Jonathan Cho, Savannah Hernandez, Katie Davis Court. So please keep them in your prayers as well. We're going to welcome back radio in just a second.

[Robby Starbuck]

All right.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show, radio stations across the country. Andrew Colvitt here, executive producer of this fine show where we pay tribute to the legacy, the enduring and immortal legacy of Charlie Kirk. We do that with his friends and the people that knew him best. And of course, that's the team that's in this building that helped produce this show every day. And Jack Posobec, who is remote, not in the studio, but he's holding it down with us here and we thank him for that. So, Jack, I mean, I'm just. I'm looking at a list of stories here that I want to get to with you. So we gotta. We got. We got to move here because I want to get to all of them. We got the Pentagon media credential list. I think you're. You're important for that. Just from a media perspective. We got this NBA about that. Yeah. The NBA sports betting scandal that just happened this morning with the FBI arrested like 34 people and there's mafia ties up there. You know, good, good. Ells back in bad bunny. You know, Jen Psaki is coming after Usha and J.D. vance. There's a CDL story, another CDL story out of California. Another guy named. Isn't it Patel? Isn't that his last name? Let me just double check on that.

[Jack Posobec]

I think that's the FBI director.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Well, it's a. Yeah, exactly. Name released. Yeah, it's another illegal alien from India. Yeah. And this is Singh. Singh S I n G h. Yeah. I was like, that doesn't sound Patel's because the FBI thing doesn't work. So I wonder.

[Jack Posobec]

You've got all your. You've got all your stories.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

They're blurring Together, they're blurring together. So Jack, tell us about this Pentagon thing. The way I understand it is that the Pentagon and this is of course, you know, our good friend Pete Hegg said who Charlie fought real hard to get confirmed. And they basically put out new press guidelines saying that you cannot ask members, staff, Pentagon officials to go off the record. And essentially everybody in the press corps that covers the Pentagon walked out, except for groups like tpusa, the national polls. Tell us about this story from. Give your. Give us your media perspective on this.

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, so you know, when I was reached out to about the new Pentagon press corps by the Department of War and their press office, I jumped at the chance. I mean, why wouldn't I want Human Events and our entire team from there and the Post Millennial to get in on the stories to embed with as new media for any of these things, like I just did with the Secretary of War as well as the President down to the Navy 250th and I had the opportunity to go to the Marine Corps 250th. It didn't work out time wise with, with the Vice President Vance. And so you want to be able to do that coverage. Now the media, of course, they, prior to this administration, they were given free reign of the Pentagon. They were allowed to walk around the halls. They were allowed, you know, access, like just, just a complete inordinate. Honestly, I can understand from the Pentagon's perspective, perhaps inappropriate level of access because what have they been dealing with?

[Megan Basham]

Leaks.

[Jack Posobec]

They've been dealing with very bad political leaks, the likes of which have turned into impeachments. Like the one Eric Charamela that started with a guy on the National Security Council leaking to the, leaking to the press, specifically David Ignatius and the Washington Post. And then you saw the General Flynn case started with leaks. So they've been dealing with all of these leaks over. What they're trying to do is fight those leaks. Look, the press is the press. The press has the First Amendment. And we at Human Events and the Post Millennial are certainly going to exercise our First Amendment rights. No one ever tells us what to write. No one ever tells me what to say. And I would honestly bristle if anyone did. And they know that's not how this game works. But at the same time, we are going to tell what we hear and what we find out publicly and honestly, and we are not going to put any spin on it. And people can go and look at my record all the way through the, you know, the strikes in Iran or the Israel, you know, the Israel conflict with Hamas and Gaza. And we covered it here with Charlie every single day. When all of that was going on, we in fact did a massive live stream about it telling everybody what what was going to happen and what our analysis was. So we are going to stick to that. And if the mainstream media is upset that, that the Pentagon is actually taking these leaks seriously, then I think they kind of seem to have forgotten what their actual role is.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah, I mean I just, you know, I have worked in press and media from a PR perspective. You know, I did all of Charlie's crisis PR and booked him on all the media hits, what crisis? Charlie never had anything handled, profiles, et cetera. And I will tell you that, you know, there are good kind people in the press corps that are at the national level, legacy media level and there are a pit of vipers that will make up the remainder in and you have to understand this is the most entitled, pretentious, I would say, career that one might choose or just the disposition of those people that tend to occupy that career in that profession. And yeah, to your point, it doesn't seem like, listen, you can work outside of the halls of the Pentagon and still ask for something on background or off the record. They're just saying like while you're in this building, you cannot do that. And that's the new rule. I don't see what the big deal is post Millennial Human Events, the National Pulse Gateway Pundit. It's going to be a whole new day at the Pentagon. And if the press is just going to opt out, don't be surprised when you don't get the stories more with.

[Jack Posobec]

Jack and replace the press pool.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Exactly. We are the media now. We'll be right back.

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.

[Jack Posobec]

Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

100% American made and darn proud of it. The CHARLIE KIRK show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. History, economics, the great works of literature. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. But even if you did, maybe it's time for an enjoyable refresher. Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses and they are tremendous, really well produced. I've been starting to take them myself, including their newest course on totality, totalitarian novels. In this free eight lecture course, you'll learn from Hillsdale College President Larry Arn, the great Larry Arn. I'm told he might be visiting us in town next week as he goes in depth on four novels, 1984, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon and that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels were written in the 1930s, and 40s. They are highly relevant today as they show what tyrannical government does to human nature. So, guys, these books show what happens when tyranny reigns. And we are seeing that in many, many ways in this country, especially from certain people in certain blue districts. So maybe you read these books long ago in school. Maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem a little intimidating. Don't let that stop you. Let Hillsdale College help you get the most out of them. That's what they're good at. Go to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll. Charlieforhillsdale.com to register. C H A R L I e for hillsdale.com. you're gonna want to check that out. Embrace learning. Always be learning. Jack, I want to take some of these. These emails from our wonderful audience, Freedom at Charlie.

[Jack Posobec]

Actually, actually, Andrew, can I say something about that, about the Hillsdale? Because you read that all the time, and there's actually. It always hits me that Charlie and I were planning to do a podcast about one of those books, and it was Darkness at Noon, and we had both read it, and he was like, jack, read this book, and we're gonna do a podcast. It's so good. It explains everything that's going on right now. And it was just one of those things.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

That didn't happen.

[Jack Posobec]

I don't know, Maybe I'll have to. Maybe I have to resurrect that idea, maybe get, like, Michael Knowles or something and do a podcast on it. Because it's just there's so many plans and ideas that we had for content and different things that we wanted to do that. Like. I still remember a lot of them, and I'm sure you do as well. And it's. It's every time you. You read that. That list, it always reminds me of that.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I think of so many of the things that we had planned all the time. Jack. Yeah. And all the time. January was going to be a big one. We're going to announce some stuff, and here we are. But we're keeping on. We're sold because Charlie would want us to. And you guys in the audience have been sending us emails, and they're great. It says, amanda says for prayers for Jack and all for safety and protection. Prayers to St. Michael. Figured you'd like that one.

[Jack Posobec]

Jack angel, defendants in battle.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Catherine says hello, lovely people and friends and family of beloved Charlie Kirk. I miss him every day and find myself talking to him and thanking him and praying for him. And about that Lori Lightfoot clip, if it is okay, because they ICE agents are on public property to gather all their personal data and unmask them. Is it not fair to demand the same of the antifa masked rioters so we can see who they are? Yes, Katherine, I think it's a great idea. And I already forwarded that idea onto some folks. Robin. Yes, they're trying to put a target on Jack's back. I often read the comments on Truth. Okay. They're mostly good. Of course they are. The. So here's a. This was a subject we covered yesterday, Jack. On the Muslim call to prayer, Mehdi Hassan saying, it's just like church bells, says Andrew. Our country was based on Christian Jewish values, freedom of religion, but not from religion. No public calls to prayer for Muslims or any other religion besides Christian church bells, in my opinion. Thank you all. Praying for you all, Sue. God bless you, Sue. Here's a. So Thorder, I don't know if you know the answer to this, Jack, but John Solomon reported that the current restrictions on the Pentagon press corps are less than those during the Obama administration. And they didn't complain then. I don't know if you know the answer to that, but it certainly seems.

[Jack Posobec]

Well, I certainly remember that the Obama administration went after James Rosen and held him in contempt of court and actually threw him in prison for refilling to refusing to release a source.

[Megan Basham]

So let's.

[Jack Posobec]

You wanna talk about freedom of the press? I don't think. I don't think. I've. No, don't.

[Miles Grimard]

Let's.

[Jack Posobec]

Let's just be fair. There are a few reporters that I'd love to see locked up, but I haven't seen the White House doing that under Trump.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

That's. That's exactly. That's exactly right. All right, so listen, next story up here, Jack, we've got to get to it because it's just. It's too important. So this NBA sports betting. And I liked it because Charlie loved talking about the NBA. It's weird he didn't watch it, but he loved arguing about Jordan and LeBron. So this came out today that it was, you know, basically there's. There's a mass conspiracy involving La Cosa Nostra, the Mafia, and that involves current players. It involves a head coach, the Portland Trailblazers, Chauncey Billups and the. The Mafia. So it's quite the extensive deal. 34 arrests. Go ahead, Jaguar.

[Jack Posobec]

So I remember. And Rudy Giuliani talks about this all the time because he was the lead prosecutor at SDNY that went after the five families of La Cosa Nostra. And really broke that back in the 80s, before he became mayor, that was what, you know, started his political career and those ambitions and put him on the map. But if you go back to that time, what did they say in the 80s? They used to say, just like Antifa today, they used to say the Mafia doesn't exist, that it's a figment of your imagination, that you know, there's this whole conspiracy like Godfather that's just a Hollywood movie. None of this is real. And it was all completely real.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah, well, and this is the benefit that Antifa, because you understand these, the evil morphs in it and it adjusts and it evolves in order to stay out of a position where they're going to be held accountable. Right. So Antifa is now this decentralized kind of ideological movement and little sleeper cells take up the mantle and they organize and then they share pamphlets of information. This is what you saw in the Frontlines documentary, that they're all publishing this information. There are far left radicalizing bookstores in Seattle and Portland that just give this stuff out and then they, they scan it and they have their little discord chats or the little like private chats. Sometimes it's just on blue sky. But this is how they do it. And so, but whereas with the Mafia, and we've talked about this, this is actually part of the limitations of the RICO statutes that were passed essentially to take out the Mafia because the Mafia had a hierarchy, it had a network. And whereas Antifa doesn't. So RICO is actually, there's our legal argument of whether or not RICO can even.

[Jack Posobec]

It has to be updated.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah, RICO needs to be updated to take out these organized, decentralized organizations like Antifa that do not necessarily have a hierarchy.

[Jack Posobec]

The Internet didn't exist back then, of course.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Of course. Yeah, exactly. Because you don't need, you actually don't need hierarchy to be really mobile and really fluid and responsive. And so that's the key. But anyways, Cash Patel named several high profile NBA figures that have been arrested. Play Cut 312 the FBI led a.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Coordinated takedown across 11 states to arrest over 30 individuals today responsible for this.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Case, which is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Grand stage of the NBA, but we.

[Terrence Bates]

Also entered and executed a system of.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Justice against La Casa Nostra to include the Bonanno, Gambino, Genovese and Luchesi crime families. So we've got a mass conspiracy to defraud people involving high up. You know, why I like this. Do you know why I like this, Jack? It's sort of like not on my bingo card. It wasn't something I was, like, hoping would happen. I've basically ignored the NBI for a long.

[Jack Posobec]

Expecting to be on, you know, on the. On the convo today for. For show topics.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

No, exactly. Ignored the NBA. But I. I saw the NBA, and it made me think of Charlie and all of his great Jordan versus LeBron debates. And plus, we start hour two with the 90s bowl and Bulls intro music. Charlie was a proud Chicagoan, and we should get that.

[Jack Posobec]

We got to get that clip of Charlie's. Charlie's basketball highlights.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yes. Yeah. And he played basketball, so I loved it. But I also loved it for another reason, and that was because, candidly, it just felt old school. It felt like a press conference we would have gotten, like, in the early 2000s or something, right? You know, where it was like, here we are, we're taking down. We're making Mark McGuire. It felt like we were just, you know, society will fall apart if we don't have rules. If we don't have rules in order and we don't have accountability, society's gonna fall apart. I already cannot watch the NBA because I just think it's rigged. I look at the. The fouls, the flops. It's a complete garbage league, but some people still like it. And obviously, people are betting billions of dollars on the NBA, and so it was really good to have some rules, like, actually be applied. And I love that about it.

[Jack Posobec]

And you really look at it, too, and it's because you step back and it's like, there's that great quote in the General Patton movie where he says, america loves winners. America will not tolerate losing. America will not tolerate losers. But at the same time, look, okay, go look at the trans issue. So the trans issue was gaining traction for years, and conservatives did not know how to fight back, because they were saying, oh, it's freedom. It's just freedom. So then. Then we started talking more about how they focus on kids and that guy, that gave it way more traction. But, man, it really didn't take off completely until we started talking about sports. Because to the average person out there, and I'm not talking like the people who listen to this show, we. We are a select. A select and growing group of people. I'm not talking to the people that are involved in or engaged in politics. I'm talking about the average person, the average American. What do they love? Fairness in sports. This is one of the reasons that we don't want the AI umpires and refs or something because what do we like to do? We like to argue over whether or not the rules were applied fairly. And so unfairness in sports is something that is just so deeply un American and cuts against the grain. That's why it was the sports issue. And I think there was like a powerlifting competition where they had a trans. I guess it was a guy competing in a girls competition in California or something just this week.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Or like Minnesota. Minnesota. The Minnesota really took off. Yeah, the Minnesota Supreme Court. But here's the other reason. This is, this is huge. Charlie was starting to really zero in. You saw this in his interview with Tucker Carlson when he went to Tucker Studio for that, that interview. He talked about the, the rise of sports betting, especially among younger men. Check this out. Young adults are more likely than older Americans to say they've placed a sports bet in the last year. Some 31% of adults under 30 say this, including 36% of young men and 29% of women, which is supporting. It was just surprising. Sports betting is far less common among older people. And this is a multi, multi billion dollar industry. And Jack, we know that this is lives of young men. And now you find out that at the NBA there's a lot of rigged betting going on. And what this betting was actually focusing on was prop betting. Prop betting is when you don't necessarily bet on the outcome of a game, but you out. You bet on the singular performance of a player. Right. And so, okay, so, so they, so basically there was a. Kind of like how fantasy sports works a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Well, so this is the, the, the fan duel. Exactly, that kind of stuff. And by the way, these are now made sponsors of these sports leagues. That's how big the industry has gone. And as gambling has spread across the country, legalized gambling, you're getting more and more young people that are losing their absolute shirt on betting they have no business doing. And by the way, here's the other little dirty secret is that it's completely rigged in favor of the house. If you bring a better onto these platforms that's too successful. Well, they're not. They're going to get kicked off. So the whole thing is rigged in favor of the house. So not only is the, is the, are the platforms rigged, but now you're finding out that the players are rigging the games. I guess Chauncey Billis was involved in some sort of collaboration. Well, because they're probably working with some.

[Jack Posobec]

Of those big betters or maybe working with some of the whales to be able to, you know, set it all up and then they get a piece.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Well yeah, and Chauncey Bills was doing something with X rays and poker games. Is quite elaborate but nevertheless very disturbing. More with Jack Bosobic Hour one continues in just a few seconds.

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political Warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yes, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Early treatment from socialism. We almost got that almost studio. A little shout out to Charlie's bowl song, his intro song for hour two. So even though it was a little clunky, I give you credit for it. Guys. Not bad, not bad. I have to show this clip here really quick. 326. I think this is Charlie smack talking Cabot Phillips years and years ago who's now with the Daily wire. It's great. 326 Cabot right here. One on one.

[Jack Posobec]

Better bring your A game. You're gonna get smoked.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I love it. I absolutely love it. Charlie loved to play basketball. He was a big basketball player in high school. So I'm going play to quickly tell you first about before bringing Jack back in about why refi? That's why refi.com private student loan debt. College is a scam. Go get a trade. Unless you're, unless you're studying something really, you know that you absolutely have to go to college for like I don't know, becoming an engineer or a doctor or something. But it's totaling over $300 billion. 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. Why Refi provides you with a custom loan payment. If you find yourself in that terrible situation, you can't make your bills. They're going to work with your monthly budget. They're going to make sure you have a payment that you can actually accomplish every month and get your head above water. You don't have to live with that burden on your shoulders anymore. You don't have to live with that stack of bills just piling up on your kitchen table. Y Refi will give you a 3 minute rate check without any credit impact. And if you have bad credit, they can help you anyways. So please, please, please, please, please go to yrefi.com yrefy.com that's 888 yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com they're great patriots who love this country and they want to help you if you find yourself in that terrible situation. And oh, look, I have enough time. Can we play 3:28 really quick? Nah. All right, hold on. Wait till the. Wait till the next. Let's welcome. Welcome back radio. This is Charlie talking about his all Serbian basketball team. I totally forgot how much Charlie loved basketball. He really did love to play it. He hated the NBA, however, so we're going to play that in just one second.

[Robby Starbuck]

All right.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Jack Posobic joins me. All of our one. What a. What a mensch. What a good guy. Jack. I'm going to play this club. This Charlie remembering his all Serbian basketball team. I guess he got a Serbian basketball name. It's pretty funny. This is in suburbs in Chicago. Apparently it was like a big.

[Jack Posobec]

Charlie.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

There was apparently like a big Serb population there. So his high school team had all these tall Serbs on the. And Charlie, they're super tall. Yeah, 328.

[Jack Posobec]

Grew up with a lot of Serbs in Chicago. I have a soft spot for Serbs. They're awesome. I know the worst thing you could say in the Serbian language, and I will not say it on air, is the FCC would find some way to still find me. I played on a Serbian basketball team. Actually my name was Sheva Kurtkovic. I could you not. I have a jersey that says.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

God bless him. I miss him. I want another Charlie clip. I want another Charlie clip. So this is another story, the CDL story. So obviously there was that terrible accident that happened in Florida. Now it happened in California. Three dead and another illegal alien, also named Singh, that kills more people in California this time because, you know, we're just handing out cdls like they're candy. Jack. But this was Jack, this was Charlie reacting to the Florida story, which was another California issued CDL316.

[Jack Posobec]

Unfathomable that a person got this, got a commercial license doing this. Unless you realize what's actually going on here. California will give a driver's license to anyone as long as they are illegal. They want illegal criminals here. And you're just so casual about it.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

You know, people say all the time.

[Jack Posobec]

Well, Charlie, what about the law abiding ones? Aren't they doing well, law abiding ones become unfortunately responsible for mass carnage.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Jack Posoba, your take.

[Jack Posobec]

Look, this is, this stems from. And it's something that Charlie, you know, obviously had a, you know, I would say an arc on when, you know, when he started out in politics to where he ended up where we aren't in an Economy first. We're not a GDP first, and there's a lot of GDP firsters. And like, we all go through. And you know, people might get mad if I say this, but, you know, we all go through that Ayn Rand phase when we're kids and when we're young and obviously Charlie was a teenager when he started turning point that, you know, we're like, oh, yeah, just get the man off our back and everything will be great. But then you start to realize the GDP is actually just a theory. It's like an academic theory. It doesn't actually describe or capture most of how life exists for the country. And when you start to realize that, no, we're actually a nation that has an economy, and we're a nation that can use an economy as a tool. And that's just one of the features of American life, but the quality of life is not necessarily captured. So when you say, oh, GDP first, let's just import all these foreign truck drivers and throw around the cdls on them. It'll be great. It'll make all of our products that much cheaper. Because, of course, you need more truckers to get products to market. That's how our system works. Because we have globalization, because we don't make anything in this country anymore. Then all of a sudden it leads to situations like this where we have people driving these incredibly powerful, literal weapons of mass destruction. If you put it in the hands of, God forbid, someone who has nefarious intentions, let alone someone who's just incompetent, and then you put them in streets and highways all across the country. So every single highway you're in, and I'll just say it, you know, when you drive on the highways these days, I drove all the way up 95 to, you know, North Jersey last week for the Cittarelli rally. And every time you see a semi, you know, they just don't drive as good as they used to. You know, they're always causing trouble. They switch lanes like crazy. It's not like it used to be at all when you could just sort of do the. You could remember you used to be able to do the elbow thing and they would do the horn for like, like the trucker or whatever.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

So this is reporting from Bill Millusion. I totally agree, Jack, and I'm gonna make a statement on the end of this. But this is reporting from Bill Malusion. His name is Jashen Preet singh. And killing three people in a DUI crash on the 10 freeway on Ontario, California. Indian illegal alien who was caught and released at the California border by the Biden administration in March of 2022. DHS photo of him and attached via federal sources. ICE is placing a detainer request on Syng with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, where he is in custody on suspicion of dui. So he was speeding and under the influence, never hitting his brakes slammed right into the car in front of him, killing I'm sure everybody instantly. And I just want I'm going to end this hour, Jack, by reiterating a call that Charlie had made. And I would say Charlie had an arc on immigration. I think me and Erica played a role in that. You played a role in that. But Charlie ended up getting pretty hardlined about immigration. And I'm gonna reiterate the call. We want legal immigration fixed in this country. Legal. There's no need for 1.2 million green cards in a country as large as ours that has had as much immigration as we've had for as long as we've had and that has robotics and AI coming to take jobs, especially from lower, lower econ spectrum people and workers. So please, let's fix our legal immigration. Let's start with an immigration moratorium. How about it? How about it? How about 5, 10 years immigration moratorium? More with Jack Posobec and guests in hour two. Don't go anywhere.

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Most people know that nutrition is the building block of health, but it goes well beyond eating your fruits and veggies or just eating broccoli. Miles Grimard is the founder and CEO of Brickhouse Nutrition. He's a recognized expert in the field of nutrition as well as as naturalceuticals, and he is the creator of a weight loss supplement called Lean. Miles, welcome to the show. Good to see you.

[Miles Grimard]

Hey, great to see you. Thanks so much for having us back.

[Terrence Bates]

So I want to start because I want to get your perspective on that intro. Most people think, all right, if I eat right, everything else will fall into place. That's kind of conventional wisdom, and it seems to make sense. But is that enough?

[Miles Grimard]

Well, eating right is a tough thing. So, yes, it can be enough if you're, you know. But most people can't eat the way you should. You definitely need to add Supplementation for certain things like, you know, certain vitamins and, and fruit and vegetables. Our field of greens product right now is, is really going crazy because of Auburn University study that was just published. And it's, it's because that, yes, people try to eat right and they, they can get close even if they're very strict with their diet. But like your, you know, your mom and dad said, when you're young, eating all those servings of fruits and vegetables every day isn't as easy in the way we work. You know, you're going to the office and everything like that. Having, you know, multiple servings of fruit and vegetables every day is not so easy.

[Jack Posobec]

So.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah, and I would imagine.

[Miles Grimard]

Go ahead.

[Terrence Bates]

I'm sorry, I was just going to say, when I was listening to you, I was thinking, well, that's why the vitamin and supplement industry is so huge right now and booming, because it does offer supplements. But let's just be honest, not all supplements are made the same.

[Miles Grimard]

No, they're not. And you know, going back to the field of greens now, Auburn study is there are so many, you know, fruit and vegetable products on the market right now. And, and you know, they might, they may sound healthy, but there's no real science behind them. And that's where kind of brickhouse comes in and tries to set, set the standard because we're different and, and we wanted to do a university study to prove it, you know, because, because each fruit and vegetable inside field of greens was medically selected for their studied health benefits. I mean, we have a group that helps your heart health or cell health, liver health, kidney health. There's even groups for metabolism and healthy weight management. So we partnered with Auburn University to do a health and biological age study because it's the health of those vital organs and your cells that determines your biological age. Right now in America, we have our actual age and then we have our biological age, which is the health of those cells and vital organs. And because of the way we eat and those diets and because people can't get the full diet that we need, they're actually eight to 16 years older on average in their biological age. And you know, when, when you get older, it's not just about your age, it's how much working years or how much health and how much, you know, you want to be able to have fun in your life, not just be sitting around and decrepit. So it's your, your, your biological age that really matters, I think, to most people. And so we, like I said when we partnered with Auburn University. To prove this, the participants, they changed nothing. They kept the same diet, they kept eating fast food, they didn't exercise more or stop drinking. All they did was add field of greens to their diet and the results were remarkable. After a lot of medical studies and testing, it showed that field of Greens does slow your aging. It actually reduces and lowers your biological age, which is huge. So the participants cells were younger just by taking field of greens. And this is something our competitors can't say and the whole study is [e-mail] but it's something like this. This is where a supplement can come in and add to that diet that you're, that you're currently eating to really boost you and give you those extra, you know, happy years of your life and bring keep, keep your biological age coming down versus at the time you are on earth.

[Terrence Bates]

So I've got to tell you, every time you mentioned Auburn, I felt Alabama fans bristling. But they still probably want what you have to offer. So for the people who are interested in purchasing some of your products, how can they find out more information?

[Miles Grimard]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Of course, that's the 90s bowls intro music that Charlie loves so much. And there's more developments on that story. We're probably gonna have to hit it on Thoughtcrime tonight on the NBA Rico story involving La Costa Nostra. It's going to be very interesting to see how that there's a LeBron James name drop. That is very interesting. So we'll see how that plays out. We're not accusing anybody of anything right now. We're gonna welcome in Robby Starbuck, friend of the show, friend of Charlie's. He's a filmmaker host, he's a corporate activist, and he is now suing Google. I guess he did it yesterday. He announced it. And in a story that could only be described as legitimately dystopian. Robby Starbuck, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show, my friend. And it's so good to have you back on the show.

[Robby Starbuck]

Thank you, guys. It's good to see y'.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

All. Yeah. So you got Jack Posoki, by the way. There you go. And so. So you're suing Google. I mean, you have been absolutely tip of the spear on a lot of this corporate activism, de wokeifying the corporate corporations in America and the boardrooms, getting them to sort of come to their senses again. Robbie. But this story is crazy. It's like, like Google AI just created. This is. What is this? Gemini, or I guess there's three different names. You can explain it to us, but they basically are accusing you of having a criminal record and all of these allegations. And they not only invented the criminal record, but they invented fake victims, fake therapy records, fake court records, fake police records, fake. So they built the whole novel about your life that never existed. Tell us what's going on here. This is.

[Jack Posobec]

Wait, unless Robby confirm for us right now. Are you in La Cosa Nostra? Were you part of this MBA scheme?

[Robby Starbuck]

Google would probably say yes, but yeah, no. To rewind this, it's. It started two years ago with their product called Bard. Bard had made up all kinds of crazy stuff saying that I was a supporter of the KKK and that it made arguments for why I should be put to death for offending leftists. And so, you know, we raised the red flag to Google and said, hey, this is serious. Problem needs to be fixed, fixed. So they were put on notice two years ago and they obviously didn't fix anything because throughout the other iterations of their AI, Bard became Gemini. And then they have the DeepMind model called Gemma. Gemma is the most pervasively malicious model that they have put out. It has accused me of being an alleged child rapist, of being on the Epstein list, of being a shooter, being wanted for murder at one point, all kinds of crazy stuff. And here is the wildest part. It's not some, you know, one liner issue where it just invents something for one line and then it pops back into reality or something like that. No, this is a committed, elaborate lie where it names victims, it names evidence like therapy records, police documents, court records, and then it does something that I have never seen from any AI and can only be described as totally malicious. And it is that it adds in news articles when you ask it to cite its Sources, it will create fake articles from real media outlets. So it'll say, oh yeah, read this story in Fox News, read this story in the Daily Wire, read the story in Human Events, read the story in msnbc. And it'll even create a fake link and a fake headline to the story. So it's trying to launder the elaborate lies in it tells by imitating and impersonating these media outlets that people maybe inherently trust. Right? And so their hope is you don't click it, but if you do click it and you say, hey, these links don't work, it says, oh, don't worry about that. It will actually write a full fake article about these supposed events. So it leads the person to believe that this actually occurred. Unless you really, really, really, really, really know me, like you know my wife, you know, you would question these things. It is so elaborate, so detailed. How could you not when it's naming victims, naming, you know, Rolling Stone exposes, and all of these really intimate, horrible details of these alleged supposed rapes.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Oh, that's crazy. I mean, this is a, this is sort of like a worst case scenario AI, at least in its current iteration, I'm sure as the technology advances, we can think of even more elaborate and terrible things that could happen in the future. Robby. But this is, this is, and I want to get your. I'm not sure what you're allowed to even speculate on because now you have a, you have a court case here. But like my question is, is this the AI that has decided to target you maybe for some of your corporate activism, you know, or do you think there's a still a person behind this that basically put a digital AI hit on you and then the AI has been unleashed to do its bidding of its master? Or is it its own master?

[Robby Starbuck]

You know what's interesting? I wish we knew the exact answer to that question. And I have my own opinion, but I think maybe the one I should put front and center is actually Google's AI. And their opinion, Google's AI says that what it has done is so malicious, so consistent, and has so many different moving parts and so many unique lies. And the fact that Google hasn't fixed it leads it to believe, and it has said that Google did this for political reasons. Their own AI said this, that there was a political reason for why this is occurring and why it hasn't been fixed. We didn't feed that answer to it. That is what Google's own artificial intelligence says repeatedly, not once, but many times. And so, you know, to me, you know, I sort of use Occam's razor. Like what is the simplest answer? Because simplest answer is probably right. And simplest answer to me is that there's biased injected into it on purpose. Because Google, it's no secret, is a left wing company. So that's my opinion. You know, if you look at the company, the history of it, these are executives running this company who cried when Donald Trump was elected. You're telling me that these folks who have fought for policies like DEI and ingrained it throughout their organization are not giant, you know, you know, sort of enemies to what I fight for? Yeah, I'm sure they are. You know, so, so it wouldn't surprise me if that is the case because it's sort of the simplest answer that makes the most sense and their AI seems to agree.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Jack, feel free to chime in here if you got questions, but I mean I've got like 20 of them, so.

[Jack Posobec]

Well, so this, this reminds me, Robbie, of this Media Research center article, this research piece that they just put out recently where it's talking about, and this is beyond just Google's AI, but it's, it's the actual Google main search engine where they're talking about how if you search, apparently it's like I have to look at the names again. I think it's like J.D. vance, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobic, a couple of other people. And if you search some of these names, the very first Google link that comes up is the disgraced far left antifa linked organization of the SPLC which so many people, including Elon Musk and the FBI are no longer using as a credible source. And yet for some reason Google puts that as the very first result, which is an organization that just exists as a smear factory when even by Google's own metrics they used to say that the highest ranking ones are the ones that people cite the most. And you can't even find any actual. They found MRC went through and they said we couldn't find any evidence to back up people citing this. So why is it the number one result?

[Robby Starbuck]

Yeah, I mean to me that looks like intentionally poisoned data sets. Right. And choices that the company is making when you think about this. Actually to your point, the SPLC was cited by their AI in many cases as backup for the lies that it was inventing. So this is happening on their AI platforms as well. I will say this, you know, my lawsuit at the end of it. I think one of the big goals here is you fix the bias long term throughout Google products because this just cannot happen. People need to understand there's, there's a multitude of, of different second order effects from this type of behavior from a company, Right? One is think about the deployment of this sort of defamation during election seasons, right? So think about the closest seats, the ones that decide the balance of power in our country. If Google is allowed to deploy malicious AI that defames candidates and they do it to the candidates they don't like, you could see an election where a bunch of the tightest races see the Republican candidates described with fake crimes that they never committed and associating them with the most heinous beliefs and things you possibly could while you go and fluff up the resumes of leftists who are totally not, you know, in a position where, where anybody should be electing them to even dog catcher, right? And so you could see the balance of power in the country decided by maliciously programmed AI. And the second, you know, thing I would say is safety. I mean, this is the most obvious conversation, right? Google was linking to what I would describe as a very hateful group, the splc, who has this supposed hate list that looks more like a hit list, right? And then their AI is describing conservatives like me, the way that we've seen it describe me and the way that it has framed me as a criminal, you know, and so the end result is, what do you think they want to happen? We could all end up victims the way Charlie was.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Absolutely. We're going to take a quick break. Take it in the, in the stream. We'll be right back.

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[Leon Neyfak]

What? I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Robby Starbuck]

Encouraging a lot of our friends to do the same thing. Like, you've gotta be trained. Your spouse has gotta be trained. My kids are trained, you know, like, God forbid, but they are. They're trained on how to handle a firearm competently. Because God forbid that moment comes some crazy person, which has happened before, they've shown up at our house. You know, I want my kids to be able to defend themselves, you know, so that's the crazy thing. We shouldn't have to live like this. You know, I saw this tweet recently, like, only we have to live like this. And I don't want my enemies to live like this. You know, I wouldn't wish it on their children or their spouses. And it's disgusting that that is the case. But that's where we are. You know, another thing I'd throw out about this Google story, and this is sort of breaking here is I am in contact with the House Judiciary Committee and I think you're gonna see a lot more on that angle very soon.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Oh, wow. Oh, interesting. Very good. So yeah, it reminds everything we're talking about here though, by the way, guys. Reminds me, we had Mike Cernovich on the show and you know, after this no King stuff and he had that great tweet where he was like, listen, you all get to have your protests and you're not worried about snipers on some buildings. You're not worried about somebody coming up and assaulting you because you know, we don't do that sort of thing on our side. We're actually the safer side. We believe in law and order, open debate, open dialogue. Meanwhile, you guys are openly mocking the death of Charlie. You're antagonizing conservatives with hand gestures to the neck. We have Jolanda Jones on CNN last night on Erin Burnett. She's running for Congress saying that we're not going to punch you back in the face. We're going to come at your neck, across your neck. We got a student at ASU that says watch your necks. I mean this is what this is the modern left and the rise of left wing violence and a political assassination culture that I think was sparked with Luigi Maggione as the inciting incident. But obviously that had been building behind the scenes for a long time. And this is the core political and cultural issue of our current epic. And I hate that. And we need to get to the bottom of it. And first things first. These Democrats have to be held accountable for stoking it and on their tech platforms like Google AI. We're gonna welcome back national radio in about 10 seconds. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with Robby Starbuck and Jack Pos.

[Megan Basham]

Foreign.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We have Robbie Starbuck, filmmaker, corporate activist. He's suing Google. Jack Posobic, host of Human Events Daily. I want to, I just want to play this clip because we haven't gotten to it yet. This is Jolanda Jones. She's running for Congress in Texas. 277.

[Jack Posobec]

I'm from the hood, okay? So if you hit me in my.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Face, I'm not gonna punch you back in your face.

[Jack Posobec]

I'm gonna go across your neck. We need to wipe out every Republican in New York, in California, in Illinois. So no One can make me feel bad about fighting.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Oh, okay. I'm from the hood, says Jolanda. And then it's almost like, I don't know. She knew exactly what she was doing because this seems to be a trend here, guys. Throw up. Up. B roll. This is Lucy Martinez who's still not been fired from her job at an elementary School. 64, please. This Lucy Martinez that is, was caught in the no Kings rally doing a gunshot gesture to her neck. Oh, and then. Oh yeah, there's more. Let's play cut. 226 this is at ASU. Some pink haired young lady. 226 hey Nazis, can you set up somewhere where I can avoid you easily?

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Have a great day, you Nazi. Watch your neck.

[Jack Posobec]

Thanks.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Watch your necks. I mean this is just a smattering guys of all of the things that we've seen at these no Kings. Go ahead, Go ahead, Jack.

[Jack Posobec]

One, one piece that I've been trying to work hard to, to get out there. And I mentioned this on Piers Morgan the other day as well, and it didn't go quite as viral as some of the other moments from that interview. But the phrase no kings itself is a phrase that derives from the French Revolution. No kings, no lords is specifically derives from the French Revolution. So the original no Kings protests are also known as the Reign of Terror and included of course the ubiquitous guillotine by Maximilien Robespierre where they were beheading public officials in the streets of Paris. So when you have a phrase like this, no kings, kings and then antifa for years has used no kings, no masters. So they will say no kings, no masters as they launch these attacks on streets, on public conservatives, things like that, on churches, burning churches. So no kings, no lords. That was one of the original slogans of the Jacobins of the French Revolution. The most violent group then no Kings, no masters gets brought up by that antifa groups over the years and over the past few decades. And now we see the, the mass mainstreaming of this violent rhetoric no Kings in the no Kings protests. And so this is a phrase again, just like Bella Chow, just like hey fascist, catch. Like all these other antifa symbols and antifa symbology that if you've been researching these groups, you're actually very familiar with. But it's now being mainstreamed on a much bigger level that people aren't familiar with. And because the media doesn't do any actual research church, they don't realize the references that they're making. Actually in the clip you just showed, they mentioned 1930s Germany. 1930s Germany. The Weimar Republic was the first iteration of antifa. So they know exactly what they're referencing. No kings, they know where that comes from. It comes, it means beheadings. It is violence and it has always been violence upon which this rest upon.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

And Jack and Robbie, I want to throw to you Robbie next. Just because you're the victim of this incredible defamation, this slander campaign from an AI. But, but you know what you were just talking about Jack, it reminds me of those. We would mock it during the, I think in 2024, 2023, where you know, the SPLC and the ADL had these long elaborate databases of all the numbers that were used by white supremacists. And it was like there was basically like three numbers. Every single number was somehow coded in white supremacist lore. And we were using.

[Jack Posobec]

My kids watch number blocks. Does that make them white supremacists now?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

But there is, there is such a lack of just interest by the media to document some of these far left codings that you're seeing at these, at these rallies.

[Jack Posobec]

Or was it complicity?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah, it could have been complicity, but here. Robby, the floor is yours, my friend. Minute and a half left in the segment. Let's say a minute, you know, sum up what you're going through and what you plan to do next.

[Robby Starbuck]

Yeah. In the words of the great Poso, we watched them kill our friend and we watched them celebrate it. And so that's constantly, I think in a lot of our minds, like when we wake up and go through our day, we think about what they did to Charlie and how it wasn't just one bullet, it was a whole campaign that led up to that. Right. And it can be done many different ways. What we're seeing here with Google is another form of harassment, defamation and intimidation and dehumanization that leads to violence. It encourages violence. It's incredibly dangerous. So I'm suing Google, not just for me, but to make this stop, to fix the bias in AI in companies like Google and to hold them accountable for what they've done. Because we don't want to wait for there to be another Charlie type of event. But we are on a path right now where there is going to be. And so it's going to take concerted effort and action from all of us. Call on your elected representatives, do something about this. You know, I think this should be one of the great issues of our time is ensuring that AI cannot harm humans. That should be a first principle of AI. It cannot harm humans in any way. Ask your representatives to get absolutely Robbie.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Starbuck, filmmaker and activist suing Google Godspeed to you my friend. Megan Bosh. Megan Basham up next.

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[Leon Neyfak]

What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yes, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Bengal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

It's time for a whole new generation to wise up and rise up. The Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this fine show. We also have Jack Posobic still. Jack, you're still there, right? You didn't fall asleep on me.

[Jack Posobec]

I am still here. Antifa has yet to take me out, but despite their best efforts.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Oh, I hear you. Oh, now I see you. So that's good. And we have a third person that's gonna be joining us, the great Megan Basham from let's go. She is the author of the New York Times best selling book they Couldn't Keep Her Off Shepherd's For Sale. She's also host on Daily Wire. The Daily I Believe or. Hold on, hold on. Culture reporter. What am I talking about? I don't know. You're the host, Morning Wire. I'm on Morning Wire. I just blanked. I apologize. But you're the competition.

[Megan Basham]

We have so much product.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I know. It's really true. So, Megan, you had this really, I think just, you know, sometimes you see somebody, they crystallize something for you in a moment, in a tweet, in a thought. And this has been something that's really been bothering me, actually. And I didn't have words for it, but obviously when Charlie was murdered, there was this amazing outpouring of support and love and rightly so. And so, like, I'm not here to hold people. Like, I'm not trying to be a jerk. I don't want to be like, you didn't. You weren't 100% on board before. And so now you can't say anything nice. No, that's not what I'm saying. I actually think that's a good thing. Like, I want you to wait.

[Jack Posobec]

Was Meghan not on board? Get her off the show.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yes. This is a debate, Meghan, we're about to hold.

[Megan Basham]

I was always on board.

[Jack Posobec]

Right now.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

But you said this. Go ahead and throw this up. 292, Charlie Kirk to young men. You need to go to a Bible study instead of a bar. And yet our evangelical leadership class kept him at arm's distance because he was an outspoken conservative and Trump supporter. All caps. That's what the problem is. And I just thought that was so well put and a point well made me because, like, yes, everybody could, you know, Especially in evangelical circles. We're not talking about antifa here, the far left wackos. Of course, they said, this is terrible. We condemn this. This is how tragic. And our heart goes out, all this stuff. But you're right that in life, I mean, by the way, our TPUSA faith chapter or network of churches has doubled. So this is a mixed bag. There's good. There's good stories here, but there is in Big Eva, as we call it. I was meeting with a pastor yesterday that said Big Eva is under God's judgment in his opinion. Okay, you could take that. I agree.

[Megan Basham]

I agree.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Okay, so maybe start there. And what is the issue here that is holding Big Eva back, which is getting in their way from embracing wholeheartedly somebody like Charlie?

[Megan Basham]

Yeah. I'm so glad that you invited me on to talk about this, Andrew, because it drives me nuts. And if you follow me on X, you probably have picked up how much it drives me nuts that there is this double standard about embracing somebody who is doing evangelism, who is speaking in the Christian space, but who is politically connected. Because you will have an organization like the Gospel Coalition. It's a media outlet. They also have their Keller center for Cultural Engagement and their fellows there. It's extremely well known. And what they do is they will bring on people like Michael Ware, who is a Democratic operative who worked in the Obama administration, and they will put him forward as somebody who is doing faith and politics combined very well. They will also have someone like Justin Gibney of the and campaign, someone who our friend Ali Beth Stuckey has covered a lot, who is a Democratic activist even as he kind of tours to these concern, allegedly conservative churches and conferences. So they're happy to welcome him, but they were never happy to welcome Charlie. You never saw Charlie spoken well of on the Gospel Coalition. You never saw him being invited to their conferences. And I don't know if you have this. I sent this over to you, but this was the attitude that they took with Charlie in 2021. One of their primary writers and vice president over at the conservative Christian publisher Crossway said something like, you know, you don't have to give Charlie Kirk more views. Right?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah. 331. Put that, put that up, please. It's a. It's a tweet. 331. There you go.

[Megan Basham]

That perfectly encapsulates sort of the attitude that they took towards Charlie. You did not see him getting invited to chapels to speak at, say, Wheaton or Biola or even Grove City or any of these colleges. That are supposed to be conservative Christian colleges, orthodox colleges. So they were happy to have the Democratic operatives on, but they were not happy to have Charlie on. And then even further, you know, when Charlie was assassinated, when he was martyred, and I want to use that word very specifically, they were put in an awkward position because suddenly people who hadn't been paying attention that closely saw an outpouring of love for the Lord, a strong, bold Christian witness. And I think that served as a rebuke to the sort of squishy faith that has been embraced and the kind of compromises that we've seen in big evangelicalism. So suddenly there was this stark contrast to what they had been doing. And that put them, I think, in a difficult position. So you did see some well wishes after that, but just as quickly as you saw the well wishes and you saw the laments and saying, we're very sorry that this happened, and they were very careful not to praise his politics. And after that, you started to even see, I mean, maybe it took maybe a week, two weeks before the heavily critical article started to come out. So then Christianity Today ran, you know, something on, well, the black voices in our churches are not so happy that we are lamenting Charlie Kirk's death. And by the way, I also want to add Christianity Today to those who were very dismissive of Charlie before his death. Their editor in chief, Russell Moore on his podcast would do that. He would name tpusa, but he would talk about these political campus movements that are dividing the faith. And it was obviously a reference to Charlie and tpusa. So when Charlie was assassinated and people saw so clearly what his record was on evangelizing, on getting out to college campuses and speaking to young people, young men in particular, in the way that I quoted in that tweet, because he did say that, he said, you young men stop going to the bar, start going to Bible studies. You know, just putting it plainly, really the heir to Billy Graham in a very strong way. So when that happened, that put them in an awkward position. And then you started to see things like these very well known conservative Christian conference speakers starting to criticize Charlie and starting to say, hey, wait a minute, it, let's not be too eager to look to his model, even as we're seeing, you know, all of these people coming to the faith on the basis of what they saw at the memorial and, and speaking that he did and all of these clips that are now circulating. So one example of that is Pastor Mike Kelsey, who is a co pastor of McLean Bible Church in Washington, D.C. it is supposed to be a conservative orthodox church. And yet here is what he said right after Charlie Kirk's death. You can play the Mike Kelsey clip.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We have the clip. Play. Cut 332. In fact, in some cases, I was.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Shocked that so many professing Christians were.

[Jack Posobec]

Rationalizing things that were so demeaning and unchristlike.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And not just rationalizing things he said, but idolizing him as the prototype for a new generation of Christians.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

And here's my point in all of that. This is not just Charlie Kirk. This is all of us. Every single one of us is tempted.

[Andrew Colvitt]

To talk to or about people in ways that not only dishonor them, but.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

The God who created them in his image. I just want to say one thing here really quick. Yeah. I mean, so Charlie knew that his calling from the Lord was very specific. He was a prophet. And what do they do to prophets? They kill prophets. Why? Because they speak the truth boldly and clearly and without reservation. And the people hate it. And what he. He said this multiple times. Said it to me. He said it on podcast. He was put on this planet to confront evil and to proclaim the truth. And what this tells me is that there is evil, that it lies. Whatever that are being clung to within the halls of the church, within the four walls of the church, Big Eva are clinging to lies. And when I hear him speak like that, I'm just thinking, lie, lie, lie. Cultural compromise, compromise, zero courage. And it's extraordinarily frustrating. But I digress.

[Megan Basham]

Yeah, no, absolutely. And I actually, I want to play one more clip just to set the table for this, and then I'll explain why they're doing this. So the other one is from Jackie Hill Perry, and if you're not familiar with her, again, she is a Christian author and she has done some good things. You know, gay girl, good God, that was a really good book. And I like her in some respects, but she has been widely welcomed, despite having some progressive ideas onto all of these allegedly Christian conservative platforms. She is welcome to speak at seminary. She is welcome to speak at Christian College chapel. So let's hear what she said after Charlie was assassinated.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

This is cut 3:30. Let's go ahead and throw it up.

[Megan Basham]

Up.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Why don't you think he's a martyr? And it's like, because I. I heard what he said.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And so it's not that I don't appreciate his stances on abortion, on sexuality, on marriage, but it's also, I hear other things alongside that that don't give Martyr.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Yeah.

[Miles Grimard]

Right.

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah.

[Megan Basham]

So I'm going to say unequivocally, Charlie was a martyr. Martyr. Charlie was assassinated for his Christian beliefs. That's a martyr. We would not say that John the Baptist was not a martyr because, well, technically he was mar. He was murdered because he called out King Herod for his incestuous marriage to his niece. You know, we don't do that. We recognize that when you are murdered for your Christian beliefs, you are a legitimate martyr. And Charlie was. And so what we are not seeing from all of these large evangelical outlets and seminaries and schools is we're not seeing any correction or rebuke for this kind of language. And so even as they have somewhat come out after the fact and now said, well, okay, you know, Charlie had some good things that he did. He did sort of draw some young men to faith. They're in an awkward position because what Charlie's example did is it pointed out how they have failed to do that. They have failed to speak to the young men. They have failed to pick up that mantle of Billy Graham and evangelize the next generation. And, you know, there's a very specific thing here that puts them in this awkward position. And it's something called the third way. And if you're not familiar with that, it's a method of evangelizing that says it. Because we want to save some people in the church and bring them to church, we want to be very careful not to align politically with either the left or right. We have to say that, you know, Jesus wasn't a Democrat or a Republican, as if, you know, the two sides are morally equal, as if there's a symmetry between them. And they'll do tricky things like say, oh, well, you know, they're here on immigration and the right is here on abortion, and both of those are pro life issues, even though one is, you know, a legitimately biblically debatable issue and the other one is murder and not debatable. So, you know, I think that what we're seeing now is that they kept Charlie at arm's length because he showed a different way. That wasn't the third way. It was a bold Christian witness that said. Said, these are my political priorities. And these are my political priorities because I follow Christ.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Well, amen and all I think about that. Jack, we're going to work you in in the next segment. I'm so sorry we. We didn't get to it, but, you know, I'm not feeling it all.

[Megan Basham]

Jack.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I know what it makes me think of is fear God not.

[Jack Posobec]

I did threaten to cut your mic so I guess I guess I was looking asking for it.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?

[Jack Posobec]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Jack Posobec]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Announcer]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Bengal ghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Waking up the woke.

[Jack Posobec]

You should get over that quickly, one.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Brainwashed radical at a time. That's enough. It's the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Jack Posobec]

The young kids, they don't want you to kind of sanitize all this stuff for them. They will come in flocks for you to say the blunt truth that you think is going to offend them. Yes, you need Jesus. But do you know why? You see, the. The reason why it's not yet being translated into revival is that they say, of course Jesus is your savior, but we're not connecting the dots. How do you know you need a savior if you don't know what you're saved from? And you only know what you're saved from if you talk about sin.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

So we focus everything on the fact.

[Jack Posobec]

That someone's going to save you from drowning. Yet we don't tell a generation that they're drowning. It's the most suicidal generation in history, the most drug addicted generation history, the most porn addicted generation history, but objectively the most miserable generation in history. And yet we say you're just perfect the way you are. They don't feel perfect the way they are. They're telling you that everything is not okay. And the message that Christianity gives you is, well, he gets you, or whatever. That commercial is like, no, that's actually not how you win young people over. You win them over being like, you know what? You know why you're miserable? Because you're not following God's laws and commands.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

Megan, the team dug that up just for you. And we'll talk about on the other side of the break. I think this is why people are flocking to Catholicism, which is my comment for Jack on the other side. Let's welcome back radio. Welcome back to the Charlie Kercho. We just played a clip in the break for Megan and Jack and some of our streaming audience that was a complete condemnation of Big Eva. And they're like, go along. To get along, everything has to come out squeaky clean. You have to use clean language. And Charlie's up there, brass knuckles hitting the truth right square in the eyes and saying, this is the truth. Repent and be saved. You are drowning as a generation, you are miserable. And Jack, I think that this is why so many young people are flocking to the Catholic Church. You know, I'm a cradle Catholic. I got saved in the Evangelical Protestant movement. I love both. I'm not picking a team here. I'm just saying I love both. Jack, talk about that. Maybe about what you're seeing in the Catholic Church and why this sort of like, traditional presentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is working right now.

[Jack Posobec]

Yeah, no, it's certainly something that we see in the Catholic Church, but a lot of people have to understand. They say, well, what about Pope Leo? Like, he's going kind of woke on a few things the same way Francis was. Was. And something actually Charlie and I even talked about when I was on this show from the Conclave when Pope Leo came in, and Charlie was the first person I spoke to about that. But what you really see going on on the Catholic side right now is the trad cath movement. And the trad cath movement, which apparently was so, so radical that the FBI, under the auspices of Merrick Garland and Chris Wray, launched an investigation into us because I guess we're playing the rosary a little bit too hard and a little bit too Latin. Y But it's the Latin Mass that's really attracting a lot of people because the Latin Mass is willing to stand up. And most practitioners of Latin Mass, or what they call it, like tlm, the traditional Latin Mass that, you know, it's not woke. It's. There's. You won't find, you know, those, those like female eucharistic ministers. You won't see altar girls. Right. It's just, just full on traditional, unchanging biblical doctrine, unchanging truth and unchanging homilies where the guys will get up there and say, we live in a sinful time and you need to repent of your sinful ways. And I think people are just thirsty for that. They want something that's righteous and true, not something that is lukewarm. Because as we know, that which is lukewarm gets spit out.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I think that's a great way to put it. And Megan, I want to get your reaction to that clip you saw of Charlie. And I wish everybody on radio could have heard it, but I mean, it was just such a confrontation to the skinny jeans TED Talk Christianity and the clean language and never gonna offend anybody.

[Jack Posobec]

The Starbucks cup.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

The Starbucks cup. And I feel like if there was like a. The spirit of the age, like in the church, at least that is just so it. And he's like, you're drowning. They're telling you they're not okay, but you just want to give them the sanitized gospel.

[Megan Basham]

Yeah. And what really strikes me there is that, you know, it's. It was such powerful preaching, and that was absolutely preaching. Right. But if you went to some of these organizations and asked them, why don't you include Charlie in some of your events? Why don't you invite him? I mean, he's the most popular and persuasive speaker on conservative campuses and all campuses, really, bringing a gospel message. Why would you not invite him and include him? And what they would tell you is that third way thing, which is, well, we don't want to be political. We don't want to throw up a political obstacle to people coming to Christ. And yet one that wasn't true. True, because they would have left wing, quote, unquote, Christians. I question the faith of some of those people, but they would have people who worked in the Obama administration. They would have people who were Democratic activists coming and being a part of their organization. So that wasn't true. And then the other thing was, I think that Charlie and I didn't have time to grab a clip of this, but it's circulating out there on social media. He wasn't afraid to call out their sins, the big evangelical machine sins. And I think that is another reason that they didn't want him, because who knows what he might, might say? You know, he, he kind of boldly called out Biola, which is a well known evangelical institution school. He said, look, Biola is lost. They have brought in transgender ideology. They are teaching queer theory, and for that reason, I cannot recommend their school. Now, that is not how, you know, the associational games are played in big evangelicalism. So Charlie didn't play the game. And so, you know, they wouldn't invite him for that reason, even though he was more effective at bringing young people to Christ than anyone else in our generation. And, you know, I've seen it in my own life. Just this week, my husband has a young trainer, you know, buff, built, 20 something, tatted up. And he came to us a couple of weeks ago after Charlie's death and just said, hey, can I come to church with you? I am feeling really affected by all this and you've been inviting me and I want to come.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I love that, you know, and the same pastor was telling me that he thinks, thinks that the revival is going to bypass a lot of the church pews that it's going to like. It's going to completely bypass them. Because these are testing moments in our culture. These are testing moments, and you either pass the test or you fail it. And the gospel will march forward and the revival that Charlie's martyrdom has sparked will march forward. And the question is, do you want to be a part of it or not? Megan Basham, this was excellent. I so enjoyed this and it just was very cathartic for me and we even worked in there for you. Jack. Jack, your show's next, starting in just a few minutes.

[Jack Posobec]

I'm next, by the way. Megan had to tell you that off your tweet there. I actually met Tanya Tay at a Bible study.

[Megan Basham]

Oh, you're kidding. That's amazing. I love it.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

I have to wrap it. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks so much. Wishing the holidays could come early. If you own or manage your business, they can.

[Jack Posobec]

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[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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[Jack Posobec]

They could be listening to you. Don't wait for everyone else to kick off the holidays. Get your best season of the year up and running today.

[Host (possibly Andrew Colvitt or main show host)]

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[Andrew Colvitt]

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